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Karen

 

you haven't seen my son go after romaine lettuce he could easily do 72

leaves a day - lol.

 

That aside, I think your comparison is more likely even though I would love

the romaine to be equivalent in protein value per calorie (smile).

 

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>>>There is more to romaine then then most Americans and nutritionists have

>>>been taught to believe.

 

Hmmm, I hate to admit this, but I have been known to eat an entire head of

romaine at one meal. I love it --- the waxy feel in the mouth and the nutty

flavor. And I would much rather eat 74 leaves of romaine than pork any day

of the week (especially since I've never even tasted pork!). But, it's

fortunate that if we need 74 romaine leaves to get a serving of protein,

then I'm thankful for additional protein sources like nuts, grains, and

seeds. Wouldn't it be boring if we could only receive specific nutrients

from one or two specific foods?

 

Rambling. . .

LaDonna

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> of the week (especially since I've never even tasted pork!). But, it's

> fortunate that if we need 74 romaine leaves to get a serving of protein,

> then I'm thankful for additional protein sources like nuts, grains, and

> seeds. Wouldn't it be boring if we could only receive specific nutrients

> from one or two specific foods?

 

That it would be, definitely (especially if they were soybeans and wheat, as I'd

starve in several long, painful days).

 

But, I doubt many could survive on 74 leaves of romaine a day (that would be at

least three heads, probably more like 6) and they would be way over on some

nutrients and still only have 7g of protein for the day (actually, there was a

special last night on starvation in ethiopia, where they primarily had only

" wild cabbage " to eat, which is more nutritious than lettuce) and could only get

one small portion of injera (a grain) a day -- they were steadily dying and

trying to make it until the next charity food drop.

 

No one has to eat pork, of course (esp on this list), but so many have no clue

on how to select foods to get the proper amount and right balance of protein on

a regular basis (with " complete " proteins consumed within at least 3 days of

each other, although daily is better). Using resources like those provided free

by the USDA can help and nutritional information on almost all veggies/grains

available in our stores is easily found, as are resources to help build

complementary proteins into a daily menu.

 

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> I have found that eating the recommended pound of romaine a day

> recommended in " Eat to Live " isn't that hard.

 

That's roughly 3/4 of a head (a head is 626 grams on average, while a 1 lb =

453.59 grams. That is also considered over 5 servings of romaine.

 

You get from that: 77 calories, 5.58g of protein and 14.88g carbs (of which 9.5g

is fiber). It provides 617mcg folate (1.5 times your daily requirement!) and

quite a bit of vit A and K plus about a day's worth of vit C. It's high in

potassium and calcium, but low in sodium, so quite healthy. But, you'll need

another 50g of protein from other sources during the day (more if you are active

or larger than the " average " 150 lb person used to set daily requirements).

 

But, romaine isn't providing much " energy " - that's entirely due to calories and

77 isn't enough to sustain even metabolic function. It's all those other

additions that do that (nuts, avocadoes, more calorie dense veggies and

dressings). However, eating lots of salads (and a lb of romaine a day will equal

at least two chef salads a day, probably three) will help keep you regular and

can lead to healthy eating habits (if they aren't chef salads designed by

restaurants - many of those have a day's calories in one " serving " )....

 

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Here's one good site for checking on food nutrients, that any on a vegan diet

should consider exploring. They don't have all the gf grains there (quinoa is

in their database, but not teff), but there is a wealth of information available

for free.

 

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/etext/000020.html

 

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> I know there is certainly disagreeing information about how

> much protein a person needs, and the best sources of protein.

 

This is also true - and I'd check more recent FDA/USDA sources, rather than

books. They have upped the requirements, especially for the elderly, recently.

Also, older sources of nutrients in foods are now suspect - 75+ years of

commercial agriculture have resulted in lower protein and nutriens in many

vegetables (and even less calcium in milk, for those not vegan). Recent

recommendations now include multivitamins daily for everyone, as it is much

harder to get minimum requirements in our food. Those eating processed foods

(like white flours) are typically deficient in zinc, for example (stripped out

with the iron and many other nutrients, but not something re-fortified).

 

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Barbara

 

Yes, all my children are still young - the eldest is 16 and youngest 10.

It's a terrible terrible thing how we have trained them to like vegetables

in preference to junk - lol.

 

We went out to eat recently and the servers nearly fell over themselves

laughing when the children argued over which kind of salad to have instead

of the KFC - lol.

 

BL

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A pork chop has around 165 calories and 26 grams of protein. A cup of

romaine lettuce has 8 calories and one-half to one gram of protein. So

to get the equivalent of that pork chop in protein, you'd have to eat 26

to 45 cups of romaine lettuce.

 

Let's try to make 26 grams of protein in a salad one person could

actually consume in a sitting. Two cups romaine: 2 grams protein, max. A

cup of garbanzos: 14 grams protein. A third cup of sunflower seeds: 11 g

protein. That's about the same protein as the pork chop, but it's 780

calories--about five times the pork chop.

 

I'm not saying we should all start eating pork. But I am saying we

shouldn't be cavalier about our protein needs. A nice romaine salad and

maybe some beans or nuts added is delicious and full of nutrients, but

it is not an excellent protein source. Two people close to me are

suffering serious health problems from blithely assuming they were

getting enough protein, instead of paying attention to what they

actually were getting.

 

Rhetoric is no substitute for serious attention to your body's needs.

 

Laura G.

 

Barbara Frohne wrote:

 

> Most people don't know that romaine lettuce has as much protein as

> pork, calorie for calorie. So eating a nice romaine salad with lots of

> veggies and maybe some beans or nuts added is an excellent source of

> protein and doesn't have the undesired fats, calcium depletion, and

> other things that come with a high protein diet. It is also much

> easier to digest

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i just looked at one of the file documents that lists sources of

protein. i notice there are things like yogurt and rice listed. can

i count these as a protein alone or do they need to be combined with

something else for a complete protein? i thought i heard that in this

program, yogurt does not count. and as far as rice goes, shouldn't

that be counted as a carb instead of protein?

 

kim

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Kim, they aren’t great protein

sources, that’s true. Theoretically you *can* count these items as your protein, but as far as healing

goes it’s definitely better to look for denser protein sources. What do

you rely on for protein now?

Heather

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Kim

Thursday, July 06, 2006

10:17 AM

To:

 

 

protein sources

 

 

 

 

 

i just looked at one of the file documents that lists

sources of

protein. i notice there are things like yogurt and rice listed. can

i count these as a protein alone or do they need to be combined with

something else for a complete protein? i thought i heard that in this

program, yogurt does not count. and as far as rice goes, shouldn't

that be counted as a carb instead of protein?

 

kim

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Sometimes

I have chicken and shrimp. I eat eggs, nuts, peanut butter, cheese and

have shakes for breakfast.

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Butler, Heather

Thursday, July 06, 2006

10:55 AM

To:

 

RE:

protein sources

 

 

 

 

 

Kim,

they aren’t great protein sources, that’s true. Theoretically

you *can* count these items as

your protein, but as far as healing goes it’s definitely better to look

for denser protein sources. What do you rely on for protein now?

Heather

 

 

 

 

 

 

On

Behalf Of Kim

Thursday, July 06, 2006

10:17 AM

To:

 

 

protein sources

 

 

 

 

 

i just looked at one of the file documents that lists

sources of

protein. i notice there are things like yogurt and rice listed. can

i count these as a protein alone or do they need to be combined with

something else for a complete protein? i thought i heard that in this

program, yogurt does not count. and as far as rice goes, shouldn't

that be counted as a carb instead of protein?

 

kim

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Sounds like you’ve got some really

great proteins for your use :). Are you looking to expand what you eat?

 

I wonder if other people wouldn’t

mind sharing what they use for their regular proteins?

Heather

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of kjanes

Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:33

PM

To:

 

RE:

protein sources

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sometimes I have chicken and shrimp. I eat eggs, nuts, peanut

butter, cheese and have shakes for breakfast.

 

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Message-----

 

On Behalf Of Butler, Heather

Thursday, July 06, 2006

10:55 AM

 

RE:

protein sources

 

 

 

 

 

Kim, they aren’t great protein sources, that’s

true. Theoretically you *can*

count these items as your protein, but as far as healing goes it’s

definitely better to look for denser protein sources. What do you rely on

for protein now?

Heather

 

 

 

 

 

 

On

Behalf Of Kim

Thursday, July 06, 2006

10:17 AM

 

 

protein sources

 

 

 

 

 

i just

looked at one of the file documents that lists sources of

protein. i notice there are things like yogurt and rice listed. can

i count these as a protein alone or do they need to be combined with

something else for a complete protein? i thought i heard that in this

program, yogurt does not count. and as far as rice goes, shouldn't

that be counted as a carb instead of protein?

 

kim

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Kim,

 

These are all good sources of protein, sounds like your on the right path.

 

Bob

, kjanes wrote:

>

> Sometimes I have chicken and shrimp. I eat eggs, nuts, peanut butter,

> cheese and have shakes for breakfast.

>

>

>

>

>

> On Behalf Of Butler, Heather

> Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:55 AM

>

> RE: protein sources

>

>

>

> Kim, they aren't great protein sources, that's true. Theoretically you

> *can* count these items as your protein, but as far as healing goes it's

> definitely better to look for denser protein sources. What do you rely

> on for protein now?

> Heather

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

> On Behalf Of Kim

> Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:17 AM

>

> protein sources

>

>

>

> i just looked at one of the file documents that lists sources of

> protein. i notice there are things like yogurt and rice listed. can

> i count these as a protein alone or do they need to be combined with

> something else for a complete protein? i thought i heard that in this

> program, yogurt does not count. and as far as rice goes, shouldn't

> that be counted as a carb instead of protein?

>

> kim

>

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Yeah

I do but there are only so many nuts and eggs you can eat! Ha….

 

I’m not big on chicken usually, so I

was thinking if I had a small portion of that with brown rice, maybe the rice

could compensate for the remaining protein I need in the meal?

 

kim

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Butler, Heather

Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:37

PM

To:

 

RE:

protein sources

 

 

 

 

 

Sounds

like you’ve got some really great proteins for your use :). Are you

looking to expand what you eat?

 

I

wonder if other people wouldn’t mind sharing what they use for their

regular proteins?

Heather

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of kjanes

Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:33

PM

To:

 

RE:

protein sources

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sometimes I have chicken

and shrimp. I eat eggs, nuts, peanut butter, cheese and have shakes for

breakfast.

 

 

 

On

Behalf Of Butler, Heather

Thursday, July 06, 2006

10:55 AM

To:

 

RE:

protein sources

 

 

 

 

 

Kim,

they aren’t great protein sources, that’s true. Theoretically

you *can* count these items as

your protein, but as far as healing goes it’s definitely better to look

for denser protein sources. What do you rely on for protein now?

Heather

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Kim

Thursday, July 06, 2006

10:17 AM

To:

 

 

protein sources

 

 

 

 

 

i just looked at one of the file documents that lists

sources of

protein. i notice there are things like yogurt and rice listed. can

i count these as a protein alone or do they need to be combined with

something else for a complete protein? i thought i heard that in this

program, yogurt does not count. and as far as rice goes, shouldn't

that be counted as a carb instead of protein?

 

kim

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Kim,

 

Tofu, protein powder, tuna, cottage cheese, cheese, completmentary bean combo's,

lentils

are all really good. I've gotten hooked on Indian Food since joining RR and

doing the food

as a Veggy Person.

 

Nobody ever really wants to feel limited on what they eat or they might tend to

go back to

old habits. Part of the discovery path for me was/is exploring new foods.

There are a

whole bunch of new foods to try now it's almost too much. But finding out can

be fun too.

 

Bob

 

, kjanes wrote:

>

> Yeah I do but there are only so many nuts and eggs you can eat! Ha..

>

>

>

> I'm not big on chicken usually, so I was thinking if I had a small

> portion of that with brown rice, maybe the rice could compensate for the

> remaining protein I need in the meal?

>

>

>

> kim

>

 

>

> On Behalf Of Butler, Heather

> Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:37 PM

>

> RE: protein sources

>

>

>

> Sounds like you've got some really great proteins for your use :). Are

> you looking to expand what you eat?

>

>

>

> I wonder if other people wouldn't mind sharing what they use for their

> regular proteins?

> Heather

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

> On Behalf Of

> kjanes

> Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:33 PM

>

> RE: protein sources

>

>

>

> Sometimes I have chicken and shrimp. I eat eggs, nuts, peanut butter,

> cheese and have shakes for breakfast.

>

>

>

>

>

> On Behalf Of Butler, Heather

> Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:55 AM

>

> RE: protein sources

>

>

>

> Kim, they aren't great protein sources, that's true. Theoretically you

> *can* count these items as your protein, but as far as healing goes it's

> definitely better to look for denser protein sources. What do you rely

> on for protein now?

> Heather

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

> On Behalf Of Kim

> Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:17 AM

>

> protein sources

>

>

>

> i just looked at one of the file documents that lists sources of

> protein. i notice there are things like yogurt and rice listed. can

> i count these as a protein alone or do they need to be combined with

> something else for a complete protein? i thought i heard that in this

> program, yogurt does not count. and as far as rice goes, shouldn't

> that be counted as a carb instead of protein?

>

> kim

>

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Well technically, yes, you could…

but if you want adequate healing it’s better to look for dense protein

sources, like legumes, tofu, etc :)

 

Heather

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of kjanes

Thursday, July 06, 2006 2:13

PM

To:

 

RE:

protein sources

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah I do but there are only so many nuts and eggs you can eat!

Ha….

 

I’m not big on chicken usually, so I was thinking if I had a

small portion of that with brown rice, maybe the rice could compensate for the

remaining protein I need in the meal?

 

kim

 

 

 

-----Original

Message-----

 

On Behalf Of Butler, Heather

Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:37

PM

To:

 

RE:

protein sources

 

 

 

 

 

Sounds like you’ve got some really great proteins for your

use :). Are you looking to expand what you eat?

 

I wonder if other people wouldn’t mind sharing what they use

for their regular proteins?

Heather

 

 

 

 

 

 

On

Behalf Of kjanes

Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:33

PM

To:

 

RE:

protein sources

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sometimes I have chicken and shrimp. I eat eggs, nuts, peanut

butter, cheese and have shakes for breakfast.

 

-----Original

Message-----

 

On Behalf Of Butler, Heather

Thursday, July 06, 2006

10:55 AM

To:

 

RE:

protein sources

 

 

 

 

 

Kim, they aren’t great protein sources, that’s

true. Theoretically you *can*

count these items as your protein, but as far as healing goes it’s

definitely better to look for denser protein sources. What do you rely on

for protein now?

Heather

 

 

 

 

 

 

On

Behalf Of Kim

Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:17

AM

To:

 

 

protein sources

 

 

 

 

 

i just

looked at one of the file documents that lists sources of

protein. i notice there are things like yogurt and rice listed. can

i count these as a protein alone or do they need to be combined with

something else for a complete protein? i thought i heard that in this

program, yogurt does not count. and as far as rice goes, shouldn't

that be counted as a carb instead of protein?

 

kim

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OK, hold on folks, LOL. Please, oh please do NOT count rice as a protein.The purpose of the protein recommendation is to allow you to heal. In working with those of you who are vegetarians, we tried to be flexible to accommodate your needs. But that means using dense sources....beans, nuts, eggs, cheese and not carbs, veggies and fruits.If you start figuring out ways to get by, then you are doing *counting* rather than healing, ways of cutting deals rather than getting the point of the original recommendations.My concern is that many atimes SS people turn to being vegetarian because they LOVE carbs and it is a way to get by with a carb diet undercover. It also can be a way to reinforce anorexic eating where you don’t eat to evoke beta endorphin.  Doing that subverts the purpose of the program.Can we talk about how to use dense vegetarina proteins to heal your body?Warmly,katheenOn Jul 6, 2006, at 12:12 PM, kjanes wrote:Yeah I do but there are only so many nuts and eggs you can eat!   Ha…. I’m not big on chicken usually, so I was thinking if I had a small portion of that with brown rice, maybe the rice could compensate for the remaining protein I need in the meal? kim    On Behalf Of Butler, HeatherThursday, July 06, 2006 1:37 PM Subject: RE: protein sources Sounds like you’ve got some really great proteins for your use :).  Are you looking to expand what you eat? I wonder if other people wouldn’t mind sharing what they use for their regular proteins?Heather  On Behalf Of kjanesSent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:33 PM Subject: RE: protein sources Sometimes I have chicken and shrimp.  I eat eggs, nuts, peanut butter, cheese and have shakes for breakfast.  On Behalf Of Butler, HeatherThursday, July 06, 2006 10:55 AM Subject: RE: protein sources Kim, they aren’t great protein sources, that’s true.  Theoretically you *can* count these items as your protein, but as far as healing goes it’s definitely better to look for denser protein sources.  What do you rely on for protein now?Heather  On Behalf Of KimThursday, July 06, 2006 10:17 AM Subject: protein sources i just looked at one of the file documents that lists sources of protein. i notice there are things like yogurt and rice listed. can i count these as a protein alone or do they need to be combined with something else for a complete protein? i thought i heard that in this program, yogurt does not count. and as far as rice goes, shouldn't that be counted as a carb instead of protein?kim Kathleen DesMaisons, Ph.D.This is Grace Unfolding, we are not alone

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Thanks, Bob. I just get tired of eating

the same things.

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Bob

Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:38

PM

To:

 

Re:

protein sources

 

 

 

 

Kim,

 

These are all good sources of protein, sounds like your on the right path.

 

Bob

,

kjanes wrote:

>

> Sometimes I have chicken and shrimp. I eat eggs, nuts, peanut butter,

> cheese and have shakes for breakfast.

>

>

>

>

>

>

On Behalf Of Butler, Heather

> Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:55 AM

>

> RE: protein sources

>

>

>

> Kim, they aren't great protein sources, that's true. Theoretically you

> *can* count these items as your protein, but as far as healing goes it's

> definitely better to look for denser protein sources. What do you rely

> on for protein now?

> Heather

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

>

On Behalf Of Kim

> Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:17 AM

>

> protein sources

>

>

>

> i just looked at one of the file documents that lists sources of

> protein. i notice there are things like yogurt and rice listed. can

> i count these as a protein alone or do they need to be combined with

> something else for a complete protein? i thought i heard that in this

> program, yogurt does not count. and as far as rice goes, shouldn't

> that be counted as a carb instead of protein?

>

> kim

>

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One thing to keep in mind is that if you are using brown rice as part

of your protein, then you can't use it as your brown. So you would

have to either eat a lot more brown rice, enough for your protein and

your brown, or have another brown to use as your brown. In other

words, if you are having a cup of brown rice, it can't be both part

of your protein, and a cup of brown.

 

The program really works best if you use dense proteins. You can

combine different sources. For instance, if you are eating chicken,

how about a chicken breast with some cheese melted on it? Or a salad

with chicken and hard boiled eggs? Or some cottage cheese and

chicken etc.

Allison

 

 

, kjanes wrote:

>

> Yeah I do but there are only so many nuts and eggs you can eat!

Ha..

>

>

>

> I'm not big on chicken usually, so I was thinking if I had a small

> portion of that with brown rice, maybe the rice could compensate

for the

> remaining protein I need in the meal?

>

>

>

> kim

>

 

>

> On Behalf Of Butler,

Heather

> Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:37 PM

>

> RE: protein sources

>

>

>

> Sounds like you've got some really great proteins for your use :).

Are

> you looking to expand what you eat?

>

>

>

> I wonder if other people wouldn't mind sharing what they use for

their

> regular proteins?

> Heather

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

> On Behalf Of

> kjanes

> Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:33 PM

>

> RE: protein sources

>

>

>

> Sometimes I have chicken and shrimp. I eat eggs, nuts, peanut

butter,

> cheese and have shakes for breakfast.

>

>

>

>

>

> On Behalf Of Butler,

Heather

> Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:55 AM

>

> RE: protein sources

>

>

>

> Kim, they aren't great protein sources, that's true. Theoretically

you

> *can* count these items as your protein, but as far as healing goes

it's

> definitely better to look for denser protein sources. What do you

rely

> on for protein now?

> Heather

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

> On Behalf Of Kim

> Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:17 AM

>

> protein sources

>

>

>

> i just looked at one of the file documents that lists sources of

> protein. i notice there are things like yogurt and rice listed. can

> i count these as a protein alone or do they need to be combined

with

> something else for a complete protein? i thought i heard that in

this

> program, yogurt does not count. and as far as rice goes, shouldn't

> that be counted as a carb instead of protein?

>

> kim

>

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Yeah that

sounds good. I’ve done that, combine proteins like chicken and cheese. So

I could eat beans and rice, with ezekial bread as my carb? And the beans and

rice would be the protein?

 

 

 

On Behalf Of alschacht

Thursday, July 06, 2006 2:51

PM

To:

 

Re:

protein sources

 

 

 

 

One thing to keep in mind

is that if you are using brown rice as part

of your protein, then you can't use it as your brown. So you would

have to either eat a lot more brown rice, enough for your protein and

your brown, or have another brown to use as your brown. In other

words, if you are having a cup of brown rice, it can't be both part

of your protein, and a cup of brown.

 

The program really works best if you use dense proteins. You can

combine different sources. For instance, if you are eating chicken,

how about a chicken breast with some cheese melted on it? Or a salad

with chicken and hard boiled eggs? Or some cottage cheese and

chicken etc.

Allison

 

,

kjanes wrote:

>

> Yeah I do but there are only so many nuts and eggs you can eat!

Ha..

>

>

>

> I'm not big on chicken usually, so I was thinking if I had a small

> portion of that with brown rice, maybe the rice could compensate

for the

> remaining protein I need in the meal?

>

>

>

> kim

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

On Behalf Of Butler,

Heather

> Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:37 PM

>

> RE: protein sources

>

>

>

> Sounds like you've got some really great proteins for your use :).

Are

> you looking to expand what you eat?

>

>

>

> I wonder if other people wouldn't mind sharing what they use for

their

> regular proteins?

> Heather

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

>

On Behalf Of

> kjanes

> Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:33 PM

>

> RE: protein sources

>

>

>

> Sometimes I have chicken and shrimp. I eat eggs, nuts, peanut

butter,

> cheese and have shakes for breakfast.

>

>

>

>

>

>

On Behalf Of Butler,

Heather

> Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:55 AM

>

> RE: protein sources

>

>

>

> Kim, they aren't great protein sources, that's true. Theoretically

you

> *can* count these items as your protein, but as far as healing goes

it's

> definitely better to look for denser protein sources. What do you

rely

> on for protein now?

> Heather

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

>

On Behalf Of Kim

> Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:17 AM

>

> protein sources

>

>

>

> i just looked at one of the file documents that lists sources of

> protein. i notice there are things like yogurt and rice listed. can

> i count these as a protein alone or do they need to be combined

with

> something else for a complete protein? i thought i heard that in

this

> program, yogurt does not count. and as far as rice goes, shouldn't

> that be counted as a carb instead of protein?

>

> kim

>

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I need

to explore, myself. I’ve tried Indian food and am not too crazy about

it. do you know of any cookbooks that will teach me about food combining (e.g.

beans combos) and how to prepare these foods? I don’t think I’ve

ever had lentils.

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Bob

Thursday, July 06, 2006 2:29

PM

To:

 

Re:

protein sources

 

 

 

 

Kim,

 

Tofu, protein powder, tuna, cottage cheese, cheese, completmentary bean

combo's, lentils

are all really good. I've gotten hooked on Indian Food since joining RR and

doing the food

as a Veggy Person.

 

Nobody ever really wants to feel limited on what they eat or they might tend to

go back to

old habits. Part of the discovery path for me was/is exploring new foods. There

are a

whole bunch of new foods to try now it's almost too much. But finding out can

be fun too.

 

Bob

 

,

kjanes wrote:

>

> Yeah I do but there are only so many nuts and eggs you can eat! Ha..

>

>

>

> I'm not big on chicken usually, so I was thinking if I had a small

> portion of that with brown rice, maybe the rice could compensate for the

> remaining protein I need in the meal?

>

>

>

> kim

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

On Behalf Of Butler, Heather

> Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:37 PM

>

> RE: protein sources

>

>

>

> Sounds like you've got some really great proteins for your use :). Are

> you looking to expand what you eat?

>

>

>

> I wonder if other people wouldn't mind sharing what they use for their

> regular proteins?

> Heather

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

>

On Behalf Of

> kjanes

> Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:33 PM

>

> RE: protein sources

>

>

>

> Sometimes I have chicken and shrimp. I eat eggs, nuts, peanut butter,

> cheese and have shakes for breakfast.

>

>

>

>

>

>

On Behalf Of Butler, Heather

> Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:55 AM

>

> RE: protein sources

>

>

>

> Kim, they aren't great protein sources, that's true. Theoretically you

> *can* count these items as your protein, but as far as healing goes it's

> definitely better to look for denser protein sources. What do you rely

> on for protein now?

> Heather

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

>

On Behalf Of Kim

> Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:17 AM

>

> protein sources

>

>

>

> i just looked at one of the file documents that lists sources of

> protein. i notice there are things like yogurt and rice listed. can

> i count these as a protein alone or do they need to be combined with

> something else for a complete protein? i thought i heard that in this

> program, yogurt does not count. and as far as rice goes, shouldn't

> that be counted as a carb instead of protein?

>

> kim

>

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Radiant Recovery has some great recipes

http://www.radiantrecovery.com/recipes.htm

One of my favorites is the Trail Mix, just love it. There are also some recipes

and a protein

guide under Files. When you try some of these out let the group know what you

think,

keep us posted.

 

Bob

 

, kjanes wrote:

>

> I need to explore, myself. I've tried Indian food and am not too crazy

> about it. do you know of any cookbooks that will teach me about food

> combining (e.g. beans combos) and how to prepare these foods? I don't

> think I've ever had lentils.

>

>

>

>

>

> On Behalf Of Bob

> Thursday, July 06, 2006 2:29 PM

>

> Re: protein sources

>

>

>

> Kim,

>

> Tofu, protein powder, tuna, cottage cheese, cheese, completmentary bean

> combo's, lentils

> are all really good. I've gotten hooked on Indian Food since joining RR

> and doing the food

> as a Veggy Person.

>

> Nobody ever really wants to feel limited on what they eat or they might

> tend to go back to

> old habits. Part of the discovery path for me was/is exploring new

> foods. There are a

> whole bunch of new foods to try now it's almost too much. But finding

> out can be fun too.

>

> Bob

>

> @ <%40>

> , kjanes@ wrote:

> >

> > Yeah I do but there are only so many nuts and eggs you can eat! Ha..

> >

> >

> >

> > I'm not big on chicken usually, so I was thinking if I had a small

> > portion of that with brown rice, maybe the rice could compensate for

> the

> > remaining protein I need in the meal?

> >

> >

> >

> > kim

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > @

> <%40>

> > [@

> <%40> ] On Behalf

> Of Butler, Heather

> > Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:37 PM

> > @ <%40>

>

> > RE: protein sources

> >

> >

> >

> > Sounds like you've got some really great proteins for your use :). Are

> > you looking to expand what you eat?

> >

> >

> >

> > I wonder if other people wouldn't mind sharing what they use for their

> > regular proteins?

> > Heather

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > @

> <%40>

> > [@

> <%40> ] On Behalf

> Of

> > kjanes@

> > Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:33 PM

> > @ <%40>

>

> > RE: protein sources

> >

> >

> >

> > Sometimes I have chicken and shrimp. I eat eggs, nuts, peanut butter,

> > cheese and have shakes for breakfast.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > @

> <%40>

> > [@

> <%40> ] On Behalf

> Of Butler, Heather

> > Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:55 AM

> > @ <%40>

>

> > RE: protein sources

> >

> >

> >

> > Kim, they aren't great protein sources, that's true. Theoretically you

> > *can* count these items as your protein, but as far as healing goes

> it's

> > definitely better to look for denser protein sources. What do you rely

> > on for protein now?

> > Heather

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > @

> <%40>

> > [@

> <%40> ] On Behalf

> Of Kim

> > Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:17 AM

> > @ <%40>

>

> > protein sources

> >

> >

> >

> > i just looked at one of the file documents that lists sources of

> > protein. i notice there are things like yogurt and rice listed. can

> > i count these as a protein alone or do they need to be combined with

> > something else for a complete protein? i thought i heard that in this

> > program, yogurt does not count. and as far as rice goes, shouldn't

> > that be counted as a carb instead of protein?

> >

> > kim

> >

>

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Okay,

thanks Bob!!!

 

 

 

On

Behalf Of Bob

Thursday, July 06, 2006 6:24

PM

To:

 

Re:

protein sources

 

 

 

 

Radiant Recovery has some

great recipes http://www.radiantrecovery.com/recipes.htm

 

One of my favorites is the Trail Mix, just love it. There are also some recipes

and a protein

guide under Files. When you try some of these out let the group know what you

think,

keep us posted.

 

Bob

 

,

kjanes wrote:

>

> I need to explore, myself. I've tried Indian food and am not too crazy

> about it. do you know of any cookbooks that will teach me about food

> combining (e.g. beans combos) and how to prepare these foods? I don't

> think I've ever had lentils.

>

>

>

>

>

>

On Behalf Of Bob

> Thursday, July 06, 2006 2:29 PM

>

> Re: protein sources

>

>

>

> Kim,

>

> Tofu, protein powder, tuna, cottage cheese, cheese, completmentary bean

> combo's, lentils

> are all really good. I've gotten hooked on Indian Food since joining RR

> and doing the food

> as a Veggy Person.

>

> Nobody ever really wants to feel limited on what they eat or they might

> tend to go back to

> old habits. Part of the discovery path for me was/is exploring new

> foods. There are a

> whole bunch of new foods to try now it's almost too much. But finding

> out can be fun too.

>

> Bob

>

> @ <%40>

> , kjanes@ wrote:

> >

> > Yeah I do but there are only so many nuts and eggs you can eat! Ha..

> >

> >

> >

> > I'm not big on chicken usually, so I was thinking if I had a small

> > portion of that with brown rice, maybe the rice could compensate for

> the

> > remaining protein I need in the meal?

> >

> >

> >

> > kim

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > @

> <%40>

> > [@

> <%40> ]

On Behalf

> Of Butler, Heather

> > Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:37 PM

> > @ <%40>

>

> > RE: protein sources

> >

> >

> >

> > Sounds like you've got some really great proteins for your use :).

Are

> > you looking to expand what you eat?

> >

> >

> >

> > I wonder if other people wouldn't mind sharing what they use for

their

> > regular proteins?

> > Heather

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > @

> <%40>

> > [@

> <%40> ]

On Behalf

> Of

> > kjanes@

> > Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:33 PM

> > @ <%40>

>

> > RE: protein sources

> >

> >

> >

> > Sometimes I have chicken and shrimp. I eat eggs, nuts, peanut butter,

> > cheese and have shakes for breakfast.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > @

> <%40>

> > [@

> <%40> ]

On Behalf

> Of Butler, Heather

> > Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:55 AM

> > @ <%40>

>

> > RE: protein sources

> >

> >

> >

> > Kim, they aren't great protein sources, that's true. Theoretically

you

> > *can* count these items as your protein, but as far as healing goes

> it's

> > definitely better to look for denser protein sources. What do you

rely

> > on for protein now?

> > Heather

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > @

> <%40>

> > [@

> <%40> ]

On Behalf

> Of Kim

> > Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:17 AM

> > @ <%40>

>

> > protein sources

> >

> >

> >

> > i just looked at one of the file documents that lists sources of

> > protein. i notice there are things like yogurt and rice listed. can

> > i count these as a protein alone or do they need to be combined with

> > something else for a complete protein? i thought i heard that in this

 

> > program, yogurt does not count. and as far as rice goes, shouldn't

> > that be counted as a carb instead of protein?

> >

> > kim

> >

>

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As I understand it from the books, rice is clearly considered a brown. I definitely know it wouldn't work as a protein source for me!

My usual protein sources are beans, garbanzo beans (in salads, stews and spread), lentils (my favorite! I just love lentil soup in winter and lentil salad when the weather is warmer). I also found some very good whey protein powder. I try to avoid soy, since I am not very sure what I'm putting into my body when I eat it.

Greetings from damp, misty Buenos Aires,

Agustina

 

 

 

Yeah that sounds good. I’ve done that, combine proteins like chicken and cheese. So I could eat beans and rice, with ezekial bread as my carb? And the beans and rice would be the protein?

 

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