protein sources

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HI Rhonda and others!

 

I´ve found one web site´, not vegan, but very useful ´though.=)

 

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/nut_search.pl

 

Outi

 

 

 

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sitä enemmän rakastan itseäni. "

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Didn't work for this Rhonda either...

 

Rhonda

SD, USA

 

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Saturday, June 02, 2001 11:18 PM

Re: Protein sources

HI Rhonda and others!I´ve found one web site´, not vegan, but very useful ´though.=)http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/nut_search.plOuti

"Mitä enemmän tunnen muita ihmisiä, sitä enemmän rakastan itseäni."

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I don't have netscape...I only use Internet Explorer and I couldn't get the site. Maybe it's temporarily offline. I'll try again later.

 

Rhonda

SD, USA

 

 

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Hyacinth Bucket

Sunday, June 03, 2001 8:50 PM

Re: Re: Protein sourcesI try to get there whit Netscape 6.1( or 6.0?) and connection refused.... So u have to use Internet explorer or Opera or something like that.=)Outi

[Guest guest]

> HI Rhonda and others!

>

> I´ve found one web site´, not vegan, but very useful ´though.=)

>

> http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/nut_search.pl

 

I don't know why, but I can't get this link to work. It says " connection

refused " . Maybe because I'm not American? Hmmm...

 

Thanks anyway,

Rhonda

[Guest guest]

No this is not a xenophobic website, I'm american and I can't get it either.

 

titi

 

 

>rr-jr

>

>

> Re: Protein sources

>Sun, 03 Jun 2001 13:30:59 -0500

>

> > HI Rhonda and others!

> >

> > I´ve found one web site´, not vegan, but very useful ´though.=)

> >

> > http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/nut_search.pl

>

>I don't know why, but I can't get this link to work. It says " connection

>refused " . Maybe because I'm not American? Hmmm...

>

>Thanks anyway,

>Rhonda

>

>

 

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[Guest guest]

> I´ve found one web site´, not vegan, but very useful ´though.=)

>

>

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/nut_search.pl

 

I don't know why, but I can't get this link to work. It says

" connection

refused " . Maybe because I'm not American? Hmmm...

 

Thanks anyway,

Rhonda

 

 

 

I´m not american either.=) I think

that there´s something wrong with Ur browser´s settings. It works even in

FInland.=)

 

Outi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

At 13:30 03.06.01 -0500, you wrote:

> HI Rhonda and others!

>

> I´ve found one web site´, not vegan, but very useful ´though.=)

>

>

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/nut_search.pl

 

I don't know why, but I can't get this link to work. It says

" connection

refused " . Maybe because I'm not American? Hmmm...

 

Thanks anyway,

Rhonda

 

 

I try to get there whit Netscape 6.1( or 6.0?) and connection refused....

So u have to use Internet explorer or Opera or something like

that.=)

 

Outi

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

, rr-jr@h... wrote:

> Hi everyone,

>

> Would anyone know of some vegan websites that have an extensive

list of

> the protein in various foods, including vegetables/greens? I've

only

> seen a couple of sites and they only listed the high-protein foods

such

> as tofu, tvp, tsp, lentils, etc. I'm wanting to know the different

> amounts of protein in various foods so that I can calculate when

meal

> planning

 

Try http://www.cyberdiet.com/ni/htdocs/index.html which gives not

only protein but other food values. This is a huge site which has

good ideas if you are dieting or just want to keep track of what you

eat. I usually plug in what I'm eating when I get worried about not

getting enough of something. I'm always amazed that with a varied

diet of healthy foods, whether vegan or other, you usually are

getting enough nutrients. Of course the important word there

is " healthy " .

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/4/01 12:03:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time, writes:

 

 

ve found one web site´, not vegan, but very useful ´though.=)

> >

> > http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/nut_search.pl

>

>I don't know why, but I can't get this link to work. It says "connection

>refused". Maybe because I'm not American? Hmmm...

>

>Thanks anyway,

>Rhonda

>

 

Maybe the server was down.....I just went there and it came right up :-) You may want to give it another try.....going to go check it out now.

 

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I got it today too!!! Got it bookmarked now. *Smile*

 

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Monday, June 04, 2001 5:52 PM

Re: Protein sources

 

 

> > I don't have netscape...I only use Internet Explorer and I couldn't get

the site. Maybe it's temporarily offline. I'll try again later.

>

> Thanks everyone! I got the page to load today! : ) It must have been

down yesterday.

>

> Rhonda

[Guest guest]

> I don't have netscape...I only use Internet Explorer and I couldn't get the

site. Maybe it's temporarily offline. I'll try again later.

 

Thanks everyone! I got the page to load today! : ) It must have been down

yesterday.

 

Rhonda

[Guest guest]

Alex wrote:

 

> has anyone found a really detailed online guide to vegan nutrition,

> listing the amino acids required and in which foods they are found?

> This is the main thing I need, so that I can construct a balanced

 

The USDA food database has information on amino acids on some foods.

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/nut_search.pl is an website

where you can search the database. You can also download the data, a

quick check of the data I have indicates that some amino acid

information is available for over 4000 items.

 

I don't know how to find out what amounts of amino acids your son

needs.

 

Joanne

[Guest guest]

Hi Alex,

 

I've been thinking about your question regarding protein sources and the

restricted diet your child must be on. I've been searching the web for some

information and have already posted some things about quinoa and lysine. It

looks like it is possible to get adequate sources of lysine from gluten-free

and vegan foods if you are careful. Lysine is also available in supplement

form, although you would have to check with the individual manufacturer to

make sure it met your child's allergy needs.

 

>The ones I have found touch upon the subject, but just say

> that a diet containing vegetables, grains, legumes and nuts will

> provide them all - and obviously that can't be our solution.

 

Legumes and nuts/seeds are generally an important aspect in a vegan diet.

But, all vegetables, fruits, and grains contain amino acids, so with care

you should be able to obtain adequate nutrition.

 

> Does anyone know what foods are rich in lysine?

 

See previous posts. Quinoa is listed as an excellent source. Millet is low

in lycine. Potatoes were listed as a good source. So was nutritional

yeast.

 

> One online source said that soy, quinoa and spinach are the only

> vegetable sources of complete protein. Soy is out for us, quinoa I am

> working on making acceptable to him - but spinach he actually likes.

> Does anyone know if this is true about spinach? It seems kind of

> improbable.

 

This may be true about spinach, but I would use caution in over-feeding it

to him because of acids it contains that block other nutrients. Some is

fine. . .but I think you should depend upon the quinoa and other sources

instead of the spinach.

 

> I have read elsewhere that millet is a complete protein - is this so?

 

Millet's limiting factor is lycine. Otherwise it is a great source of amino

acids. Generally vegetarians and vegans rely upon combining foods to

produce a complete protein food. Millet, served with a good high in lycine

at the same meal (or the same day) should provide a complete protein.

 

You might check into sprouting. Sprouts are very nutrient dense and are a

good source of protein. I have never sprouted quinoa, but believe that

quinoa sprouts would be a fantastic protein source. I listed a source about

sprouting quinoa a few posts previously.

 

With your child's limitations there are two other factors that you may wish

to consider. Vitamin B12 is a very necessary nutrient. Vegan's generally

rely on supplementation or on food such as Nutritional Yeast. Red Star

Nutritional Yeast makes a B12 fortified yeast and it is gluten free. It can

be mixed with grape juice, used as breading for " fried " foods, sprinkled on

cereal, or hidden in baked goods.

 

Other nutrients to watch for are the essential fatty acids. Generally in a

vegan diet they are obtained from nuts and seeds. Flax seeds are a terrific

source, but if you child is unable to have flax seed oil added to his diet

you may need to find another source. Some grains (such as quinoa) may have

" some " of this nutrient, but you will need to research to make sure it is

still available to the body after cooking. Generally it is very sensitive

to heat and oxygen.

 

Your child is blessed to have a parent who is sensitive to his needs! I

believe it is possible to meet his nutritional needs quite well, even with

the restrictions he has. If you have more questions or concerns I will be

happy to help " search " for answers.

 

~ LaDonna

[Guest guest]

Alex Jeffery wrote:

 

> The only more detailed information I have found suggests that grains

> tend to be low in lysine - so that is presumably an amino acid my son

> is likely to lack. Does anyone know what foods are rich in lysine?

 

http://herpes.com/Nutrition.shtml

 

 

yes, i know it's a herpes site. I get cold sores, which are caused

by a herpes virus. I take l-Lysine capsules to prevent outbreaks. When

i do get a sore, I make sure I eat higher l-lysine foods. I use this

chart.

 

beets, papaya (i'm deathly allergic to that. be careful if your son has

a natural rubber latex allergy), mango, apricot, apple, pear, loquat,

fig, tomato, avocado, turnips, pineapple, potato, celery, persimmon,

summer squash (i'm guessing yellow, crookneck, and zucchini, along with

pattypan), peach, plum, cauliflower, etc. Sure, they don't have as much

as cheese, milk, or animal flesh, but they do contain l-lysine.

 

ygg

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, eye of newt <krasota@m...> wrote:

I use this

> chart.

> beets, papaya (i'm deathly allergic to that. be careful if your

son has a natural rubber latex allergy), mango, apricot, apple, pear,

loquat, fig, tomato, avocado, turnips, pineapple, potato, celery,

persimmon, summer squash (i'm guessing yellow, crookneck, and

zucchini, along with pattypan), peach, plum, cauliflower, etc.

> ygg

 

Great list, ygg! This sure extends the options. Thanks!

LaDonna

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much, everyone, for taking the trouble to send me all

that great information. That is waaay more than I managed to discover

in some hours trawling the web on my own.

 

One rather vital bit of information I neglected to mention was that my

son isn't actually gluten-free. I joined this list because due to

allergies he is eating a vegan diet, as well as excluding a series of

other allergens, and I figured a list of people who were vegan and

dealing with a dietary restriction would have a lot of good

imaginative ideas relevant to his diet on how to cook and obtain good

nutrition. And obviously you all do.

 

On the list of amino acids - the headings wrapped round - am I right

that it is the middle list of figures that is relevant to children? Is

it that the younger you are, the more you need per kilo of body

weight? (He is 2 1/2 - so I guess perhaps he needs somewhere between

the infant and child amounts).

 

Thanks so much again.

Alex

[Guest guest]

Hi Alex,

 

So glad our information/research helped you out. Since your son is able to

have wheat, you have another source of lysine! That is good. . .as he is on

a pretty restricted diet. Have you had a chance to browse through our

archives yet? There are quite a few quinoa recipes which may be helpful to

you. The search feature on our website is quite helpful. . .just type in

quinoa.

 

Since gluten/wheat are not an issue you may wish to check out an affilated

list. The archives there are much larger and there is a pretty good base of

vegan recipes to choose from. The URL for that list is

http://www.Christian-Vegan-Cooking. I moderate that

forum also and there are many experienced vegans there who are always ready

to assist and help answer questions.

 

> On the list of amino acids - the headings wrapped round - am I right

> that it is the middle list of figures that is relevant to children? Is

> it that the younger you are, the more you need per kilo of body

> weight? (He is 2 1/2 - so I guess perhaps he needs somewhere between

> the infant and child amounts).

 

Yes, I believe you are correct. A child needs adequate protein for growth

and development. Most vegans who are experienced don't worry about getting

enough protein, as protein is a part of the make-up of most all foods. But,

with your sons restrictions you will need to take extra care. Let me assure

you, tho, that there are many, many healthy and strapping vegan kids out

there!

 

Glad we could help ~ let us know if you need more research help.

LaDonna

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[Guest guest]

Hi Julia,

 

Your best sources would be beans, lentils, nuts and seeds. Some grains

and even some vegetables are also good sources. It is important to

make sure you eat a wide variety of sources.

 

You can find some information about getting enough protein plus the

amount of protein in many foods on these sites:

 

http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.htm

http://www.vegsoc.org/info/protein.html

http://www.vnv.org.au/Nutrition/Protein.htm

 

You can boost the protein intake in GF baking by using flours such as

quinoa, amaranth, besan/chickpea/garbanzo flour.

 

 

Kim.

 

 

 

 

, " Julia Goessler "

<juliagoessler wrote:

>

> Hi all,

>

> My doctor told me to get more protein. Which are the best protein

sources I can get in a GF/SF and vegan diet?

>

> Thanks.

> Julia

>

>

[Guest guest]

We have just learned about Hemp Hearts, they are high in protein and

Essential Fats

http://www.albertahempforhealth.com/

 

Laura C

 

 

On 5/12/06, Julia Goessler <juliagoessler wrote:

>

> Hi all,

>

> My doctor told me to get more protein. Which are the best protein sources

> I can get in a GF/SF and vegan diet?

>

> Thanks.

> Julia

>

>

[Guest guest]

Here is a page that actually talks about how much protein.

http://www.albertahempforhealth.com/site/1609006/page/733813

Laura C

 

On 5/15/06, Laura Cadieux <mlcadieux wrote:

>

> We have just learned about Hemp Hearts, they are high in protein and

> Essential Fats

> http://www.albertahempforhealth.com/

>

> Laura C

>

>

> On 5/12/06, Julia Goessler <juliagoessler wrote:

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > My doctor told me to get more protein. Which are the best protein

> > sources I can get in a GF/SF and vegan diet?

> >

> > Thanks.

> > Julia

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Julia;

 

Why did your doctor tell you to get more protein? What have you been eating?

 

Does your doctor understand that we get more than enough protein when we eat a

variety of whole foods on a vegan diet?

 

Deborah

 

 

Hi all,

 

My doctor told me to get more protein. Which are the best protein sources I

can get in a GF/SF and vegan diet?

 

Thanks.

Julia

 

 

[Guest guest]

perhaps adding a vegan protein powder to a morning smoothie?

 

 

 

 

On May 12, 2006, at 5:31 AM, Julia Goessler wrote:

 

> Hi all,

>

> My doctor told me to get more protein. Which are the best protein

> sources I can get in a GF/SF and vegan diet?

>

> Thanks.

> Julia

>

>

[Guest guest]

Most people don't know that romaine lettuce has as much protein as

pork, calorie for calorie. So eating a nice romaine salad with lots of

veggies and maybe some beans or nuts added is an excellent source of

protein and doesn't have the undesired fats, calcium depletion, and

other things that come with a high protein diet. It is also much

easier to digest, and is full of many minerals, including calcium that

many doctors tell women they need eat more. I got my information from

an excellent book called " Eat to Live " by a Dr. Furman. It is really

worth reading. It has an excellent plan for health that doesn't

require gluten, soy or dairy products.

 

Barbara

 

 

On May 12, 2006, at 5:31 AM, Julia Goessler wrote:

 

> Hi all,

>

> My doctor told me to get more protein. Which are the best protein

> sources I can get in a GF/SF and vegan diet?

>

> Thanks.

> Julia

>

>

[Guest guest]

Actually, it doesn't. 3 oz of pork has 145 calories and 24.5g protein. 1 leaf of

romain has 2 calories and .1g protein, so 145 calories of romain has 7.25g of

protein. To get those calories, you are eating 72 leaves of romaine (more than

nearly anyone would attempt in a day, although possible by drying and adding the

powdered result to a smoothie or something). But you still end up with less than

1/3 the protein and not a balanced version, at that.

 

Romaine is still good for you, much more so than iceburg lettuce (and a good

source of vit K if eaten with sometype of oil/fat source), but not a good

protein source. What makes a salad an acceptable protein source is the other

items added to it, not the greens.

 

>

>

> Most people don't know that romaine lettuce has as much protein as

> pork, calorie for calorie. So eating a nice romaine salad with lots of

> veggies and maybe some beans or nuts added is an excellent source of

> protein

 

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