Sure-Jell answer from Kraft

[Guest guest]

Here is the final answer, received today. They are not able to certify

the product as vegetarian. (They just can't be bothered because no

lawsuit could result.) As a precaution, I will avoid filing recipes

listing this product, unless someone has better information. As I said

before, they told me over the phone that they constantly change sources

of minor ingredients and that is why they cannot say definitively that

they are from plant sources.

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Kraft - Health and Wellness [HealthandWellness]

Maida,

Thank you for visiting http://www.kraftfoods.com/.

Our Pectins are free from animal sourced enzymes. I'm sorry but there is

no other information currently available. I apologize for any

disappointment this may cause you.

If you haven't done so already, please add our site to your favorites

and visit us again soon!

Kim McMiller

Associate Director, Consumer Relations

~~TLXEA_12894892~~Y

 

 

what are the ingredients of Sure-Jell. Can you categorically state that

the ingredients are guaranteed to be vegetarian.

 

 

 

from Maida

Citizens for Pets in Condos, http://www.petsincondos.org

South Florida Vegetarian Events, http://www.soflavegevents.net

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Our Pectins are free from animal sourced enzymes. --this doesn't qualify?

 

Maidawg <maidawg wrote: Here is the final answer, received today.

They are not able to certify

the product as vegetarian. (They just can't be bothered because no

lawsuit could result.) As a precaution, I will avoid filing recipes

listing this product, unless someone has better information. As I said

before, they told me over the phone that they constantly change sources

of minor ingredients and that is why they cannot say definitively that

they are from plant sources.

 

 

Beth

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[Guest guest]

> Our Pectins are free from animal sourced enzymes. --this doesn't qualify?

 

I don't think so, because there's more to the product than pectin, you see :-(

Maida has

explained in an earlier post what the problem is about the sources (plural) of

these other

ingredients.

 

Isn't it annoying! This is why vegetarians who are really careful use agar

instead.

 

Best love, Pat

[Guest guest]

Beth answered " Our Pectins are free from animal sourced enzymes. --this

doesn't qualify? " after I told her that " over the phone that they

constantly change sources of minor ingredients and that is why they

cannot say definitively that they are from plant sources. " (ie, can be

from animal sources)

 

Beth, you can do what YOU want to do. I just don't feel right about

posting recipes that are not vegetarian on a VEGETARIAN list.

 

 

from Maida

Citizens for Pets in Condos, http://www.petsincondos.org

South Florida Vegetarian Events, http://www.soflavegevents.net

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Beth, you can do what YOU want to do. I just don't feel right about

posting recipes that are not vegetarian on a VEGETARIAN list.

 

ok, ok...i was just asking because it seemed to me they said it came from non

animal sources...jiminy. take a deep breath. all is fine.

 

 

Beth

“The right adult at the right time can make an enormous difference. Many kids

have a history of difficult, disappointing relationships and one good

relationship--one person who is there for them--can make a huge difference.”

-Jean E. Rhodes Professor, Psychology at the University of Massachusetts in

Boston.

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Pat, I've not yet run across a recipe for making a jam or jelly with

agar. Have you? I could adapt any recipe to hot pepper jelly, I'm

sure. Also, I would assume that commercial jams and jellies may be

suspect, since they don't list all of their ingredients.

 

Sherry

 

At 06:45 AM 3/23/2006, you wrote:

> > Our Pectins are free from animal sourced enzymes. --this doesn't qualify?

>

>I don't think so, because there's more to the product than pectin,

>you see :-( Maida has

>explained in an earlier post what the problem is about the sources

>(plural) of these other

>ingredients.

>

>Isn't it annoying! This is why vegetarians who are really careful

>use agar instead.

>

>Best love, Pat

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

> ok, ok...i was just asking because it seemed to me they said it came from

non animal

sources..

 

Hi Beth - I think I've already answered that one - they carefully only refered

to the pectins,

not the other ingredients. Additionally, as has been explained on this now

several time,

Kraft says that their other ingredients (in the products named) don't always

come from

non-animal sources. You and others can of course make your own choices - that's

what

life's about, making choices (among other things) :-)

 

>jiminy. take a deep breath. all is fine.

 

Steady on, girl! LOL No need to suggest that anyone here is outta control! You

asked a

question, you got your answer. If you don't like your answer, then you can

ignore it - but

don't shoot the messenger, okay?

 

Me, I only just gave up buying jam and jelly products that were not labelled as

being

suitable for VEGETARIANS - likewise am now looking at pickles. There's always

something,

eh? But how far each individual wants to go is up to that person. The only rule

one needs

to follow is to be true to one's own chosen way BUT I would add that on this

list one needs

to be respectful of others who may be following a stricter (and therefore

perhaps less

attractive in one's own eyes) path to one's own.

 

Now I think the queries about these products are, in TV legalese, 'asked and

answered'.

Let's move on?

 

Best love,

 

Pat

[Guest guest]

> Pat, I've not yet run across a recipe for making a jam or jelly with

> agar. Have you?

 

Can't recall - although I've heard of such things. I don't make jam or jelly and

my only

indulgence used to be commercial ginger marmalade a few times a year ;-) - now

abandoned because I've cut sugar out.

 

>Also, I would assume that commercial jams and jellies may be

> suspect, since they don't list all of their ingredients.

 

Suspect, yes. But all things not marked vegetarian or vegan are suspect, ya

know?

 

Best love, Pat

[Guest guest]

When I used to make jams & jellies, I used to use Certo. Is it still

available? Also, you can use certain fruit to make your own--isn't it made

from apples or some other fruit that causes the jam or jelly to " set " ?

Maidawg <maidawg wrote: Beth answered " Our Pectins are free

from animal sourced enzymes. --this

doesn't qualify? " after I told her that " over the phone that they

constantly change sources of minor ingredients and that is why they

cannot say definitively that they are from plant sources. " (ie, can be

from animal sources)

Kathleen M. Pelley

Knitters are Real Purls

[Guest guest]

> When I used to make jams & jellies, I used to use Certo.

 

We have been through this at the end of February and also earlier this month :-(

 

We have checked with Kraft, by email and telephone, and they cannot guarantee

that the

product is consistently vegetarian. It seems that sometimes some of the chemical

ingredients could be from animal rather than vegetable sources, depending on who

supplies them to their factory at any given time.

 

Given that information, Vegetarian Spice does not recommend the use of Certo for

a

vegetarian group.

 

Best, Pat

[Guest guest]

Kathleen said, " When I used to make jams & jellies, I used to use Certo.

Is it still available? Also, you can use certain fruit to make

your own--isn't it made from apples or some other fruit that causes the

jam or jelly to " set " ? "

Certo has the same problems as Sure-Jell - it is made by Kraft and they

cannot and will not certify their products as vegetarian.

I sure hope somebody on this list comes up with a vegetarian jelly

recipe so we can end this thread.

from Maida

Citizens for Pets in Condos, http://www.petsincondos.org

South Florida Vegetarian Events, http://www.soflavegevents.net

[Guest guest]

Maida wrote:

> I sure hope somebody on this list comes up with a vegetarian

> jelly recipe so we can end this thread.

 

Well, I don't have a pepper jelly recipe that I've tested, but I can

point anyone who wants one to a vegan one. Pomona Pectin is a vegan

pectin, and it comes with a sheet full of recipes, including one for

hot pepper jelly. (I know this because I use Pomona Pectin when

making soy yogurt.) You can see the recipe sheet at

http://www.pomonapectin.com/card1.pdf --Hot Pepper Jelly is the last

one on the first page. I'm not a fan of pepper jelly or I'd offer to

test this for the list!

 

And, in case you're wondering, I did email Pomona just to make sure,

and within an hour, on a Sunday no less, I received this email:

 

Dear Susan Voisin,

 

Pomona's Universal Pectin is 100% pure citrus pectin powder. This

means that the pectin is extracted from the peel and pulp of lemon,

lime and grapefruit. The calcium powder is a rock mineral calcium

source called monocalcium phosphate. Neither one has anything to do

with animal products.

 

Sincerely,

Connie Sumberg

Owner

Workstead Industries

413-772-6816

www.pomonapectin.com

 

Susan

 

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Susan Voisin

blog.fatfreevegan.com

www.fatfreevegan.com

www.veganconnection.com

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[Guest guest]

> Pomona Pectin is a vegan

> pectin, and it comes with a sheet full of recipes, including one for

> hot pepper jelly.

 

Thanks, Susan :-) Saved! LOL

 

Best love, Pat