Guest guest Posted July 11, 2002 Report Posted July 11, 2002 Does anyone know of a specific contraindication for patients on AGRANOX an aspirin derivitive with Dan Shen Yin, the patent. I realize the contraind. for warfarin and dan shen. Does this also carry over to all anticoagulates? I have a patient who had a mild stroke 3 weeks ago who has almost fully recovered. He is on Agranox, Zestrol, and Lipitor. I was tossing the idea around that although maybe not the most effective formula, Dan Shen Yin could gently assist without excessive moving function. I am also doing scalp acupuncture and local tx for the stroke rehab. Kelly _______________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Quote
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2002 Report Posted July 11, 2002 , " Kelly Welch " < kdwelch25@h...> wrote: Does this also carry over to all anticoagulates? there is at least a theoretical risk, though no studies I know of. In the event of an adverse effect, I think there might be liability for taking a risk when you had concerns that coulnot be completely allayed. Quote
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2002 Report Posted July 12, 2002 wrote : > Message: 2 > Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:11:37 -0700 > " Kelly Welch " <kdwelch25 > dan shen yin w/anticoagulates > > Does anyone know of a specific contraindication for patients on AGRANOX an > aspirin derivitive with Dan Shen Yin, the patent. I realize the contraind. > for warfarin and dan shen. Does this also carry over to all anticoagulates? > > I have a patient who had a mild stroke 3 weeks ago who has almost fully > recovered. He is on Agranox, Zestrol, and Lipitor. I was tossing the idea > around that although maybe not the most effective formula, Dan Shen Yin > could gently assist without excessive moving function. I am also doing scalp > acupuncture and local tx for the stroke rehab. The only information I could find on Aggrenox (a new drug) is that it's a combination of time release aspirin (to prevent blood clots) and dipyridamole (prevents platelet clumping). Dipyridamole is often used with Warafin/Coumadin. This new drug that combines it with aspirin is targeted specifically to stroke patients. the only thing I could find on adverse reactions is that it potentiates Garlic. I would then assume that it also potentiates any of the other herbs that prevent platelet clumping such as ginger and ginkgo. I would be wary of any of the anti coagulant herbs as well. Maybe you could initiate a dialog with your patient's western physician to coordinate her care. The Zestril is a blood pressure medication and the Lipitor lowers blood cholesterol. good places to do research on western medications: http://www.healthwell.com/ and http://www.fda.gov/cder/ and http://medlineplus.gov/ -jude jude Quote
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2002 Report Posted July 13, 2002 Q. are there different bio-mechanisms for anti-platlet-clumping? do the one's mentioned act the same way? case: a friend of mine took alka-seltzer which had a "bit of aspirin" in it and she had a rather severe reaction, lip swelling, heat rising, mild asphyxiation, palpitations...never knew someone allergic to aspirin... just a thought. Yosef - Jude Friday, July 12, 2002 11:03 AM Re: dan shen yin w/anticoagulates wrote :> Message: 2> Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:11:37 -0700> Wrom: EXXIMQZU Welch" <kdwelch25> dan shen yin w/anticoagulates> > Does anyone know of a specific contraindication for patients on AGRANOX an> aspirin derivitive with Dan Shen Yin, the patent. I realize the contraind.> for warfarin and dan shen. Does this also carry over to all anticoagulates?> > I have a patient who had a mild stroke 3 weeks ago who has almost fully> recovered. He is on Agranox, Zestrol, and Lipitor. I was tossing the idea> around that although maybe not the most effective formula, Dan Shen Yin> could gently assist without excessive moving function. I am also doing scalp> acupuncture and local tx for the stroke rehab.The only information I could find on Aggrenox (a new drug) is that it's acombination of time release aspirin (to prevent blood clots) anddipyridamole (prevents platelet clumping). Dipyridamole is often used withWarafin/Coumadin. This new drug that combines it with aspirin is targetedspecifically to stroke patients. the only thing I could find on adversereactions is that it potentiates Garlic. I would then assume that it alsopotentiates any of the other herbs that prevent platelet clumping such asginger and ginkgo. I would be wary of any of the anti coagulant herbs as well. Maybe you couldinitiate a dialog with your patient's western physician to coordinate hercare.The Zestril is a blood pressure medication and the Lipitor lowers bloodcholesterol.good places to do research on western medications:http://www.healthwell.com/ andhttp://www.fda.gov/cder/ andhttp://medlineplus.gov/-jude judeChinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. Quote
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