Zhen Jiu Da Cheng

[Guest guest]

Thomas,

My main teacher and inspiration, Michael Broffman of Pine Street

Foundation, San Anselmo, Ca., bases his entire practice on the Nan

Jing, including herbal medicine, dietary counseling, acumoxa, and

lifestyle recommendations. He largely works with complex disorders.

Basically what he does (and I am slowly trying to do over the years)

is uses the difficult issues as templates to apply to the broad palate

of medicine and health, building diagnostic and treatment strategies

on the principles contained within. An e-mail rendering would be

impossible, but what I will do is give a short e-mail example in my

next posting.

 

To quote Michael: " the Nan Jing is an evolving blueprint for how

Chinese medicine has developed through the generations of

practitioners. It starts with a process of pattern recognition that

ultimately leads the practitioner to a personal language of pulses and

what they mean " .

 

 

On Mar 11, 2009, at 1:42 AM, Thomas Sørensen wrote:

 

> Z'ev,

>

> I would love to hear more about what experiences you have gained and

> thoughts you might have on this particular topic.

>

> My thoughts are still very global, so to speak, and I haven't reached

> anything that even resembles any conclusions regarding this - still

> very

> much stumbling....

>

> I find the NanJing to be a very fascinating and beautiful document. So

> few words, such deep insight. Reminds me of Dao De Jing in many

> ways :0)

>

> I really like the fact that the NanJing isn't a detailed document

> since

> it leaves room to play extensively and be creative in clinic. Every

> single time I read it there are new clinical benefits to be reaped.

>

> I am a firm believer that constitutional patterns should be the

> locus of

> treatment and as such I usually devote 75~80% of acup. treatment to

> treating the constitutional imbalance(s) (Japanese Meridian Therapy

> style) and devote a 100% of lifestyle counceling towards the

> constitutional imbalance(s) - by the way NanJing lifestyle

> recommendations, however simple, work really well - maybe because they

> are simple?!

>

> There must be a way to support this approach with herbs efficiently

> within NanJing framework - Acupuncture, food prescriptions, counceling

> etc. all work really well in this approach so why not herbal therapy?!

>

> Zhang Yuan Su seems to have been successful in formulating such an

> approach (ZangFu BenBiao HanRe XuShi.......) being a torchbearer for

> refining the theory of herbs being able to enter the channels - an

> ability there must be present for herbs to work within this particular

> theoretical frame I believe.

>

> Correct me if I am wrong, but Pi Wei Lun is more directed towards

> lifestyle induced diseases, the ShangHanLun more towards pathogens. I

> would like to experiment with something geared more towards

> constitutional issues like it is seen in the Korean SaSang approach.

> Constitutional herbal therapy based on NanJing theory in all it's

> simple

> complexity to support a pragmatic approach to dealing with patients

> problems in life.

>

> :0)

>

> Thomas

>

> tir, 10 03 2009 kl. 15:02 -0700, skrev :

>

> > Thomas,

> > I am very interested in your thoughts on Nan Jing theory applied

> > to herbal medicine, as this has been an interest of mine for many

> > years.

> >

> >

> > On Mar 10, 2009, at 2:38 PM, Thomas Sørensen wrote:

> >

> > > Zhang Yuan Su allegedly held high that one must rely on oneself-

> the

> > > training, experience, self-cultivation, and intuition that goes

> into

> > > becoming a medical practitioner-rather than following some

> dogmatic

> > > system that is going to eventually change anyway - a good reason

> to

> > > choose pragmatic NanJing theory not just for acup. but also for

> > > prescribing herbs.

> >

> >

> > Chair, Department of Herbal Medicine

> > Pacific College of Oriental Medicine

> > San Diego, Ca. 92122

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Z'ev

do you consider the Unschuld translation and commentaries a good basis for

study?

Daniel

 

Chinese Medicine ,

<zrosenbe wrote:

>

> Thomas,

> My main teacher and inspiration, Michael Broffman of Pine Street

> Foundation, San Anselmo, Ca., bases his entire practice on the Nan

> Jing, including herbal medicine, dietary counseling, acumoxa, and

> lifestyle recommendations. He largely works with complex disorders.

> Basically what he does (and I am slowly trying to do over the years)

> is uses the difficult issues as templates to apply to the broad palate

> of medicine and health, building diagnostic and treatment strategies

> on the principles contained within. An e-mail rendering would be

> impossible, but what I will do is give a short e-mail example in my

> next posting.

>

> To quote Michael: " the Nan Jing is an evolving blueprint for how

> Chinese medicine has developed through the generations of

> practitioners. It starts with a process of pattern recognition that

> ultimately leads the practitioner to a personal language of pulses and

> what they mean " .

>

>

> On Mar 11, 2009, at 1:42 AM, Thomas Sørensen wrote:

>

>

[Guest guest]

Definitely. You just have to be careful about the Wade-Giles

transliteration instead of Pinyin.

 

Z'ev

On Mar 11, 2009, at 9:45 AM, Daniel Schulman wrote:

 

> Z'ev

> do you consider the Unschuld translation and commentaries a good

> basis for study?

> Daniel

>

> Chinese Medicine ,

> <zrosenbe wrote:

> >

> > Thomas,

> > My main teacher and inspiration, Michael Broffman of Pine Street

> > Foundation, San Anselmo, Ca., bases his entire practice on the Nan

> > Jing, including herbal medicine, dietary counseling, acumoxa, and

> > lifestyle recommendations. He largely works with complex disorders.

> > Basically what he does (and I am slowly trying to do over the years)

> > is uses the difficult issues as templates to apply to the broad

> palate

> > of medicine and health, building diagnostic and treatment strategies

> > on the principles contained within. An e-mail rendering would be

> > impossible, but what I will do is give a short e-mail example in my

> > next posting.

> >

> > To quote Michael: " the Nan Jing is an evolving blueprint for how

> > Chinese medicine has developed through the generations of

> > practitioners. It starts with a process of pattern recognition that

> > ultimately leads the practitioner to a personal language of pulses

> and

> > what they mean " .

> >

> >

> > On Mar 11, 2009, at 1:42 AM, Thomas Sørensen wrote:

> >

> >

>

>

 

 

Chair, Department of Herbal Medicine

Pacific College of Oriental Medicine

San Diego, Ca. 92122

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Z'ev,

 

> My main teacher and inspiration, Michael Broffman of Pine Street

> Foundation, San Anselmo, Ca., bases his entire practice on the Nan

> Jing, including herbal medicine, dietary counseling, acumoxa, and

> lifestyle recommendations. He largely works with complex disorders.

> Basically what he does (and I am slowly trying to do over the years)

> is uses the difficult issues as templates to apply to the broad

> palate

> of medicine and health, building diagnostic and treatment strategies

> on the principles contained within.

 

I should tour the States for a bit to learn.... There are no real

authorities on NanJing theory in Europe it seems - definitely no one in

denmark, so get my main inspiration from different practitioners on my

yearly trips to Japan.

 

 

> An e-mail rendering would be

> impossible, but what I will do is give a short e-mail example in my

> next posting.

 

 

That would be great :0) And Btw during the past couple of years your

posts and article(s) in the Lantern have been of excellent help and

inspiration to me Z'ev - thanks a bunch.

 

 

 

> To quote Michael: " the Nan Jing is an evolving blueprint for how

> Chinese medicine has developed through the generations of

> practitioners. It starts with a process of pattern recognition that

> ultimately leads the practitioner to a personal language of pulses

> and

> what they mean " .

 

 

That's very beautifully put :0)

 

:0)

 

Thomas

 

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[Guest guest]

You should look into Peter vanKervel in the Netherlands.

Rick

 

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Thomas Sørensen <>

 

Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:58:22

<Chinese Medicine >

Re: Zhen Jiu Da Cheng

 

 

Z'ev,

 

> My main teacher and inspiration, Michael Broffman of Pine Street

> Foundation, San Anselmo, Ca., bases his entire practice on the Nan

> Jing, including herbal medicine, dietary counseling, acumoxa, and

> lifestyle recommendations. He largely works with complex disorders.

> Basically what he does (and I am slowly trying to do over the years)

> is uses the difficult issues as templates to apply to the broad

> palate

> of medicine and health, building diagnostic and treatment strategies

> on the principles contained within.

 

I should tour the States for a bit to learn.... There are no real

authorities on NanJing theory in Europe it seems - definitely no one in

denmark, so get my main inspiration from different practitioners on my

yearly trips to Japan.

 

 

> An e-mail rendering would be

> impossible, but what I will do is give a short e-mail example in my

> next posting.

 

 

That would be great :0) And Btw during the past couple of years your

posts and article(s) in the Lantern have been of excellent help and

inspiration to me Z'ev - thanks a bunch.

 

 

 

> To quote Michael: " the Nan Jing is an evolving blueprint for how

> Chinese medicine has developed through the generations of

> practitioners. It starts with a process of pattern recognition that

> ultimately leads the practitioner to a personal language of pulses

> and

> what they mean " .

 

 

That's very beautifully put :0)

 

:0)

 

Thomas

 

--

Althea Akupunktur

Albanigade 23A, kld.

5000 Odense C

 

Tlf.: 31 25 92 26

http://www.ditlivditpotentiale.dk

 

RAB: 2006059

CVR: 27322646

 

Frøslev Mollerup Sparekasse

Reg.: 9133

Konto: 2050409