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To me the central principle of all medicine, especially ours is (should

be?) compassion for the suffering. We should not compromise that

principle, even if it means sacrificing other lesser principles. For

example, is appropriate to treat drug addiction with acupuncture,

despite the fact that doing so reduces acupuncture to a five needle ear

protocol?

 

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Hi Malino,

 

Glad to have you aboard. Things are still a little bit slow on this

list, but will probably pick up if we can get some more Paracelsuns on

board. Please notify Paracelsus about this list and my website, if you

still post to them. Thanks.

 

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Hello,

 

I'd like to introduce myself. My name is Kristin Wisgirda and I am a recent

graduate of PCOM San Diego. 4 days ago I opened my Chinese medicine practice

in an alternative healing center that offers yoga, massage, and counseling in

a small town in southeastern Massachusetts. The area is ripe and ready for

Chinese medicine and the community is enthusiatic about my arrival. Already I

have interesting cases that I would like to share but need more time to

prepare and maybe a few more treatments to sort out the details. I look

forward to participating in the discussions and am so grateful to have access

to any insight into this great art of ours that more experienced practioners

have to offer.

If there are any practitioners in southeastern New England who would be

interested in meeting and sharing case studies, I'm game.

Until next time.

Kristin Wisgirda, MTOM, Lic.Ac.

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Hey Kristin,

 

Where are you exactly, I have family on the Cape and in the surrounding area

and would like to be able to refer them to you. Welcome to the group.

 

 

Chinese Herbology and Acupuncture

Formulator and Consultant Summer Jo's (botanicals)

 

 

" Serve others and cultivate yourself simultaneously "

Lao Tzu

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Hi Kristin

I also have someone who lives in Onset - if it is any where near you - I may

be able to refer to you.

Jim Chaffee

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Dear Kristin,

Great to have you on board. It was great having you as a student. I

wish you much luck and success in your new practice.

 

 

 

 

>JEChaffee

>

>Hi Kristin

>I also have someone who lives in Onset - if it is any where near you - I may

>be able to refer to you.

>Jim Chaffee

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Yuri,

The key in choosing to use da cheng qi tang or not isn't necessarily the

constipation. 1) First determine if it is truly ascites or not. If so,

don't use da cheng qi tang. 2) the pulse has to be replete and full, with

a red tongue with dry yellow coat 3) this seems unlikely after major

surgery. Most likely, this is a vacuity pattern (after major surgery), and

a combination of supplementation of liver and kidney yin with qi regulation

for the liver is likely, but there is still no way out. . . .You have to

formulate an accurate bian zheng lun zhi/pattern differentiation, and treat

from there. What is the full story here?

 

 

 

 

 

 

> " yuri ovchinikov " <yuriovi

>

>Hi

>My name is Yuri and I just got my lisence and sterted my practice in LA

>(West hollywood). Recently I had a very difficult case with severe

>constipation for about 2 weeks and probably ascittis in a lady of about 40

>years old after brain surgery. And I could nottake a courage and give her

> " Da Cheng Qi Tang " because of her severe condition. Was there any solution

>to the case? I will appreciate any answer.

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This is for Derek in Melbourne. I'm glad you mentioned Pao Zhi -- the

efficacious processing of herbs. My students at Yo San University have asked

for a demonstration/workshop on common useful preparation or herbs... I am

thinking of having one of our herbal instructors teach the workshop in my

home where there is access to the herbal pharmacy and the kitchen. If you

were to conduct such a workshop, over a three-hour period, say, what four or

five preparations would you think it best to demonstrate that would be most

useful for herbal students? Thanks in advance for any input you could give.

 

Julie Chambers

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juliej8 <juliej8

Friday, May 05, 2000 10:22 AM

Re: Introduction

 

 

>This is for Derek in Melbourne. I'm glad you mentioned Pao Zhi -- the

>efficacious processing of herbs. My students at Yo San University have

asked

>for a demonstration/workshop on common useful preparation or herbs... I am

>thinking of having one of our herbal instructors teach the workshop in my

>home where there is access to the herbal pharmacy and the kitchen. If you

>were to conduct such a workshop, over a three-hour period, say, what four

or

>five preparations would you think it best to demonstrate that would be most

>useful for herbal students? Thanks in advance for any input you could give.

>

>Julie Chambers

>

>

>Chronic Diseases Heal - Chinese Herbs Can Help

>

Dear Julie.,

 

It depends on whether you are demonstrating the preparing of herbs or

whether you intend to get the students to prepare the herbs ( much slower).

 

If you were to do it I would recommend the following as they are the most

important or common methods and herbs:

 

Chao (huang-until they turn yellow)-Dang Shen, Gan Cao, Huang Qi plus some

of the seeds such as Niu Bang Zi, Lai Fu Zi.

 

Mi Zhi (stir-fried in honey)-Dang Shen, Huang Qi, Gan Cao plus herbs to

moisten the Lung-Pi Pa Ye, Bai Bu, Zi Wan and even Ma Huang

 

Cu Zhi(stir fried in rice vinegar)-Chai Hu, Yan Hu Suo

 

Jiu Zhi(stir fried in rice wine)- Da Huang, Huang Lian, Huang Qin ( Yan Hu

Suo used to be the classic herb for this method but modern research

indicates that it is better for stopping pain when fried in vinegar)

 

Duan (calcined-this can be done in a wok with a lid or in the oven)-Mu Li,

Long Gu or Shi Gao.

 

Of course, quite a bit of time will be taken in explaining the general

reasons for preparing herbs and then the changes to the functions of each

individual herb. This will be plenty for a 3 hr session.

 

If you have any further queries, let me know

 

Derek

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Hello Everyone...I wanted to write and let you all know... that I am now sharing this space! My Internal Medicine teacher @ PCOM... Z'ev R. recently enlightened our class, as to this group! Thanks Z'ev *S*About me: I am currently a 4th year student @ PCOM with plans to take the State Board in December. I see myself opening up practice in my neighborhood and specializing in women's issues and some Internal Medicine... ie Liver Disharmonies. This past year I studied 5 weeks in Wuhan, China @ Hubai TCM University. One of the most important things I Iearned there was the importance of raw herbs in treatment and paying close attention to S/S & history to come up with accurate diagnosis.I am not sure of what the current discussion is, however I am very interested in hearing anything about latent heat theory or any referrals for any translations by Liu Bao Yi's, or where I can find his discussion on " Experience in the Discrimination and Treatment of Latent Chi Warm Illness " .Thanks,Teresa

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An interesting and wondreful addition to the group!! Welcome. Eti Domb

 

Quoting Peter Borten <innergate:

 

> Hello, this is my brief introduction...

> I could talk about, study, hunt for, and play with herbs all day.

> I got my B.S. in botany at UMass, Amherst, though my studies there =

> included precious little instruction in medicinal herbs, so I continued =

> onto OCOM, which I'd heard had a strong herbal program, and just =

> finished my M.Ac.O.M. Hopefully Chinese Herbal Medicine will help =

> further enrich my herbal schooling.

> Though I can't think offhand of any area in herbal medicine that I'm NOT =

> interested in, a couple of my most recent interests have been:

> 1. treating the spirit with herbs, including five-element approaches to =

> Chinese herbalism

> 2. investigating Western counterparts to Chinese herbs. In many cases, =

> it appears not enough research has been done within genera to make clear =

> distinctions (in terms of medicinal properties) between species. (For =

> instance, does anyone know if Man Jing Zi possesses the hormonal effects =

> of Vitex agnus-castus - the West's chaste-berry? or if Ban Bian Lian has =

> any of the emetic or unpredictable qualities of Lobelia inflata?) Also, =

> I'd be interested to learn what kinds of differences climate, =

> topography, and other environmental factors make in the medicinal =

> properties of particular herbs (partly to determine how Chinese herbs =

> would vary if I grew them in northwestern U.S.). =20

> Okay, so maybe I shouldn't have used the word " brief " in the first =

> line...

> Take care all,

> Peter Borten

>

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Hi Greg.

 

Glad to have you aboard.

 

Kristin Wisgirda

 

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Greg Bantick <gbantick

 

Friday, October 06, 2000 11:47 AM

Introduction

 

 

> Hi folks,

>

> Just a hello on joining the group. I have been in general practice since

'75

> and teaching since '79. Originally trained in Australia, I have had

> extensive trips to China, Japan, Hong Kong etc, studying. Now resident in

> San Diego I have a private practice and teach some at PCOM.

>

> Greg Bantick

>

>

> Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare

practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing

in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services,

including board approved online continuing education.

>

>

>

>

 

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, <kwisgirda@n...> wrote:

> Hi Greg.

>

> Glad to have you aboard.

>

> Kristin Wisgirda

>

most defnitely

>

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Die Da (Traumatology) from my ongoing and 5 year+ apprenticeship to Ping Chan, a master acupuncturisy from Hong Kong. He an I teach a Die Da class (30 hours, incorporating acupuncture, internal and extrenal herbs, and tui na)

>>>Welcome, Shearing clinically useful information would be greatly appreciated as musculoskeletal disorders are my main interest.

Alon

 

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chi

Saturday, December 30, 2000 4:05 PM

introduction

 

I look forward to participating in the discussions at Chinese Herbal Medicine. As requested, I am sending a brief introduction:

 

My name is Mike Arsenault. I am a 1999 graduate of New England School of Acupuncture in Watertown, Massachusetts. I am a licensed acupuncturist in the state of Massachusetts and practice acupunture, Chinese herbs and Tui na in the north shore of Boston, in Ipswich, Mass. I have extensive experience in Die Da (Traumatology) from my ongoing and 5 year+ apprenticeship to Ping Chan, a master acupuncturisy from Hong Kong. He an I teach a Die Da class (30 hours, incorporating acupuncture, internal and extrenal herbs, and tui na) for 3rd year students and licensed acupuncturists in the summer and I assist him in teaching Tui Na to the 3rd year students at NESA. I have a background in teaching at the college level and have studied Tai Chi for a number of years. I teach the Yang family 24 form in Ipswich and continue to study the internal martial arts.Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education.

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Welcome John

my direct email is heiko

drop us a line

Heiko

John Davies wrote:

 

HelloThanks

for allowing me to join this group.I've been practicing acupuncture for

over 20 years and Chinese herbal medicine since 1988.I was delighted to

see the first posting I received was from Heiko Lade who was my teacher

in my TCM course.John Davies

 

Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed

healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics

specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional

services, including board approved online continuing education.

 

 

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Simon,

 

I've just read your new book. It's a valuable contribution to the field.

Thank you.

 

Mark Reese

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" Simon A. Becker " <simonbecker

" Chinese Herbal Medicine Forum "

Sunday, March 11, 2001 10:00 PM

Introduction

 

 

> As I have just joined Chinese Herbal Medicine, following is short

> introduction:

>

> My name is Simon Becker. Originally from Switzerland, I graduated from

the

> Florida Institute of in St. Petersburg, FL, and then

spent

> 4 months at the Heilongjiang TCM University Hospital in Harbin, China. I

> am a Diplomat in Acupuncture and Chinese Herbology (NCCAOM) and a Licensed

> Acupuncturist in North Carolina. I am also the author of " A Handbook of

> Chinese Hematology " (published in 2000 by Blue Poppy). I live and

maintain

> a private practice in Asheville, NC.

>

> Simon Becker

> (simonbecker)

Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare

practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing

in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services,

including board approved online continuing education.

>

>

>

>

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Please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Ed Kasper, a California

licensed acupuncturist and herbalist. I practice in Santa Cruz, Ca. and I

have a web store at http://HappyHerbalist.com. I specialize in preparing

individual herbal formulas for difficult cases and ship these formulas all

over the world.

In my private practice I focus on chronic sports injuries that don't seem to

go away. This has been my personal interest for some time because I practice

and teach the martial arts of Aikido, Ryu-Kyu Kempo and Qi Gung both as a

martial art and as a healing method.

I also focus on neurological disorders and as a community service I offer

free Treatment for Parkinson's patients (Protocol developed by the

Parkinson's Disease Treatment Center, Santa Cruz, Calif. U.S.A.).

 

Thank you for your time and consideration.

 

Ed Kasper L.Ac.,

Health

www.HappyHerbalist.com

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In a message dated 10/24/01 10:44:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, zrosenbe writes:

 

 

There are no English translations. . . .well, one list of medicinals entering the extraordinary vessels available on acupuncture.com. But Chip Chace and Miki Shima are working on a translation of the Li Shih-zhen text as we speak.

 

Z'ev - the list of medicinals posted at acupuncture .com is from Ye Tianshi. I confirmed this with Yang Tiande the translator. You probably recall a conversation regarding the source material for that translation wherein it was speculated it could be Li Zhishen.

Steve, I have a copy of the Qi Jing Ba Mai you may copy if you want to use it for translation (long outside copywrite by the way).

 

Will

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There are no English translations. . . .well, one list of medicinals

entering the extraordinary vessels available on acupuncture.com. But

Chip Chace and Miki Shima are working on a translation of the Li

Shih-zhen text as we speak.

 

 

On Wednesday, October 24, 2001, at 10:12 AM, taohongjing wrote:

 

> Hello Group,

>

> Just writing to give my initial introduction. My name is Steven

> Gomberg, and I am currently practicing CCM in the greater Los Angeles

> area, specifically Pasadena and West Los Angeles. My focus in

> practice is herbal medicine. I am also presently a Phd. candidate at 

> the American University of Complimentary Medicine, and am working on

> a project involving Li Shi Zhen's " Qi Jing Ba Mai " . Any information

> about extant english translations of theis text or any commentary

> would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Steven

>

>

>

 

>

>

> Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed

> healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate

> academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety

> of professional services, including board approved online continuing

> education.

>

>

>

>

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Thanks, Will. That would be much appreciated.

 

Steven

 

 

, WMorris116@A... wrote:

> In a message dated 10/24/01 10:44:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> zrosenbe@s... writes:

>

>

> > There are no English translations. . . .well, one list of

medicinals

> > entering the extraordinary vessels available on acupuncture.com.

But

> > Chip Chace and Miki Shima are working on a translation of the Li

> > Shih-zhen text as we speak.

>

> Z'ev - the list of medicinals posted at acupuncture .com is from Ye

Tianshi.

> I confirmed this with Yang Tiande the translator. You probably

recall a

> conversation regarding the source material for that translation

wherein it

> was speculated it could be Li Zhishen.

>

> Steve, I have a copy of the Qi Jing Ba Mai you may copy if you want

to use it

> for translation (long outside copywrite by the way).

>

> Will

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Hi phil

alon

 

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philip cusick

Monday, November 26, 2001 6:27 PM

introduction

 

 

 

introduction

Phil Cusick, L.Ac.- graduate of ACTCM '99. Practice in San Francisco. Acupuncture, Herbs, lots of tui na and other forms of manual medicine.

 

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Introduction

 

Warren Cargal, L.Ac., M.A. (transpersonal psychology). Practice in a

group setting in Atlanta, specializing in male/female infertlity and

autoimmune diseases. Use blood, urine, and salvia analysis coupled w/

tcm diagnostics methods. Do acupuncture, herbs, patents, homeopathy and

supplements coupled w/ omura o-ring testing.

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Greetings Jill

 

I am 30 minutes away from you across the border in White Rock. I, too,

have a clinic but w/o raw herbs. My Qi Gong teacher these last 4 years is

Zhang Jin Fa whose master was Que Ahshui, famous in Shanghai during the 60's

for his One Finger Postures. Do you have someone in Bellingham? I heard

there was a good teacher there.

 

Rod

 

 

 

 

> " jiliherbs " <jlikkel

>

>

> Introduction

>Sun, 04 May 2003 03:17:59 -0000

>

>I have been reading the posts for about a month and decided to

>finally introduce myself. My name is Jill Likkel and I practice in

>Bellingham, Washington. I graduated from NIAOM (RIP) in 1999 and

>finished the herbal certificate program in 2000. I have a granulated

>pharmacy and ALOT of raw herbs as well as many patents. I am a

>fanatic about Chinese herbs but I also enjoy acupuncture and qi

>gong. My Chinese language skills are appalling but I am gaining some

>inspiration to study from the posts on this egroup.

>I wish I could come to the conference but I have a friends wedding to

>go to. Next year. I've taken cancer classes from Tai Lahans and they

>were very informative.

>

>

 

 

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, " Rod Le Blanc "

<rodleblancdtcm@h...> wrote:

> Greetings Jill

>

> I am 30 minutes away from you across the border in White Rock. I,

too,

> have a clinic but w/o raw herbs. My Qi Gong teacher these last 4

years is

> Zhang Jin Fa whose master was Que Ahshui, famous in Shanghai during

the 60's

> for his One Finger Postures. Do you have someone in Bellingham? I

heard

> there was a good teacher there.

>

> Rod

 

Rod,

Since this doesn't concern herbs I'll email you directly.

Jill

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Dear Rebecca,

 

Good to see you on the list...

 

_

 

, " rebecca_mcelroy "

<rebecca_mcelroy> wrote:

> Greetings to all,

>

> My name is Rebecca McElroy and I am second year student at Pacific

> College of Oriental Medicine in San Diego. I have experienced

first

> hand the power and validity of TCM which is one of the reasons my

> focus has turned to this profession. I am transitioning from my

> current profession as a legal assistant to the world of Oriental

> Medicine. This transition has been both a fascinating and a

> challenging one. My transition is an experience that will be

> broadened by many informative discussions between fellow students

and

> future colleagues. I am confident that this group will offer me

> knowledge in many different avenues of TCM that I have yet to

> discover.

>

> Thank you for your time and I look forward to many discussions in

the

> future.

>

> Regards,

>

> Rebecca

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