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Kiran

The spur is just a response to tension on the plantar fascia. If the

biomechanics are not treated the spur will come back. Pt with heel spurs do not

have a higher % of pain than those that do not. treating the attachment of the

fascia, biomechanics and muscle balance works 99% of the time, most of the time

completely eliminating all symptoms.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

kiran phalke

pa-l

Tuesday, February 06, 2007 11:07 PM

Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis

 

 

It does not cause any pain as an analgesic and a steroid is already injected.

I have seen this

Kiran

 

 

Alon Marcus <alonmarcus wrote:

Why brake the spur it does not cause any pain its the plantar fascia

 

 

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kiran phalke

pa-l

Monday, February 05, 2007 11:26 PM

Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis

 

Ht

I have seen in china that a spur is simply broen with a special needle called

PHI needle. An injection of steroid and an analgesic is given at a sight and

then (if anatomically possible) The PHI needle is inserted and hit on the spur

which breakes and eventually gets absobed in the body

Kiran Phalke

 

" P.T. Ferrance " <ptf1 wrote:

Hi,

I have read about dissolving bone spurs and have spoken with others about this

but have not actually done it myself. I have a woman with a possible bone spur

in her shoulder. Currently presenting with bursitis and biceps long head

tendonitis. She is deciding on whether or not to have x-rays re the spur.

 

Has anyone on the list actually dissolved a spur with acupuncture? If you have

would you mind sharing your technique. From what I have learned I have a sense

that it is done with a surround the dragon technique and then use e-stim. Is it

micro or mille-current? Or does it matter.

 

If you did something different please let me know.

 

Thanks for any help you can give.

 

P.T.

 

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Plantar fascitis and/or achilles tendonitis are the usual causes of heel

spurs.

 

The simplest correction of these biomechanical imbalances can be brought

about quickly by combining the use of BaGuaFa (gua sha and cupping) along with

acupuncture needles.

 

Once the tension imbalance is alleviated the mechanism of osteoclasts will

reverse the heel spur over time.

 

Richard

 

 

 

In a message dated 2/7/2007 10:40:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

alonmarcus writes:

 

The spur is just a response to tension on the plantar fascia. If the

biomechanics are not treated the spur will come back. Pt with heel spurs do not

have

a higher % of pain than those that do not. treating the attachment of the

fascia, biomechanics and muscle balance works 99% of the time, most of the

time completely eliminating all symptoms.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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how do you correct biomechanical imbalance with gua sha? can you change an

equines foot for example?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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acudoc11

Chinese Medicine ; pa-l ;

 

Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:44 AM

Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis

 

 

 

Plantar fascitis and/or achilles tendonitis are the usual causes of heel

spurs.

 

The simplest correction of these biomechanical imbalances can be brought

about quickly by combining the use of BaGuaFa (gua sha and cupping) along with

acupuncture needles.

 

Once the tension imbalance is alleviated the mechanism of osteoclasts will

reverse the heel spur over time.

 

Richard

 

 

 

In a message dated 2/7/2007 10:40:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

alonmarcus writes:

 

The spur is just a response to tension on the plantar fascia. If the

biomechanics are not treated the spur will come back. Pt with heel spurs do

not have

a higher % of pain than those that do not. treating the attachment of the

fascia, biomechanics and muscle balance works 99% of the time, most of the

time completely eliminating all symptoms.

 

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Alon, are you asking if you can change a horse's hoof? Or is this yet another

term I'm not

familiar with?

 

doug

 

, " Alon Marcus " <alonmarcus wrote:

>

> how do you correct biomechanical imbalance with gua sha? can you change an

equines

foot for example?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> -

> acudoc11

> Chinese Medicine ; pa-l ;

 

> Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:44 AM

> Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis

>

>

>

> Plantar fascitis and/or achilles tendonitis are the usual causes of heel

> spurs.

>

> The simplest correction of these biomechanical imbalances can be brought

> about quickly by combining the use of BaGuaFa (gua sha and cupping) along

with

> acupuncture needles.

>

> Once the tension imbalance is alleviated the mechanism of osteoclasts will

> reverse the heel spur over time.

>

> Richard

>

>

>

> In a message dated 2/7/2007 10:40:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> alonmarcus writes:

>

> The spur is just a response to tension on the plantar fascia. If the

> biomechanics are not treated the spur will come back. Pt with heel spurs do

not have

> a higher % of pain than those that do not. treating the attachment of the

> fascia, biomechanics and muscle balance works 99% of the time, most of the

> time completely eliminating all symptoms.

>

>

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Anyone knows a good TCM dr in Viena

thanks

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Alon Marcus

Chinese Medicine ; pa-l ;

 

Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:44 AM

Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis

 

 

how do you correct biomechanical imbalance with gua sha? can you change an

equines foot for example?

 

 

-

acudoc11

Chinese Medicine ; pa-l ;

 

Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:44 AM

Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis

 

Plantar fascitis and/or achilles tendonitis are the usual causes of heel

spurs.

 

The simplest correction of these biomechanical imbalances can be brought

about quickly by combining the use of BaGuaFa (gua sha and cupping) along with

acupuncture needles.

 

Once the tension imbalance is alleviated the mechanism of osteoclasts will

reverse the heel spur over time.

 

Richard

 

In a message dated 2/7/2007 10:40:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

alonmarcus writes:

 

The spur is just a response to tension on the plantar fascia. If the

biomechanics are not treated the spur will come back. Pt with heel spurs do

not have

a higher % of pain than those that do not. treating the attachment of the

fascia, biomechanics and muscle balance works 99% of the time, most of the

time completely eliminating all symptoms.

 

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Doug

Its the talapi equino varus foot which tends to be a supinated foot (high

arched). If it is compensated for the pt tends to have what looks like a very

flat foot

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:18 PM

Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis

 

 

Alon, are you asking if you can change a horse's hoof? Or is this yet another

term I'm not

familiar with?

 

doug

 

, " Alon Marcus " <alonmarcus

wrote:

>

> how do you correct biomechanical imbalance with gua sha? can you change an

equines

foot for example?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> -

> acudoc11

> Chinese Medicine ; pa-l ;

> Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:44 AM

> Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis

>

>

>

> Plantar fascitis and/or achilles tendonitis are the usual causes of heel

> spurs.

>

> The simplest correction of these biomechanical imbalances can be brought

> about quickly by combining the use of BaGuaFa (gua sha and cupping) along

with

> acupuncture needles.

>

> Once the tension imbalance is alleviated the mechanism of osteoclasts will

> reverse the heel spur over time.

>

> Richard

>

>

>

> In a message dated 2/7/2007 10:40:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> alonmarcus writes:

>

> The spur is just a response to tension on the plantar fascia. If the

> biomechanics are not treated the spur will come back. Pt with heel spurs do

not have

> a higher % of pain than those that do not. treating the attachment of the

> fascia, biomechanics and muscle balance works 99% of the time, most of the

> time completely eliminating all symptoms.

>

>

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Well Richard this foot type is do to body structure not tissues

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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acudoc11

Chinese Medicine ; pa-l ;

 

Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:14 PM

Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis

 

 

 

Anyone who has really practiced gua sha would experientially know that one

can easily decompress the tissues by these methods (including cupping if there

is no hair) thereby changing the tensions and counter tensions.

 

Richard

 

In a message dated 2/7/2007 2:53:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

alonmarcus writes:

 

how do you correct biomechanical imbalance with gua sha? can you change an

equines foot for example?

 

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Richard sorry should have said bony structure

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Alon Marcus

pa-l ; Chinese Medicine ;

 

Wednesday, February 07, 2007 2:17 PM

Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis

 

 

Well Richard this foot type is do to body structure not tissues

 

 

-

acudoc11

Chinese Medicine ; pa-l ;

 

Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:14 PM

Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis

 

Anyone who has really practiced gua sha would experientially know that one

can easily decompress the tissues by these methods (including cupping if there

is no hair) thereby changing the tensions and counter tensions.

 

Richard

 

In a message dated 2/7/2007 2:53:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

alonmarcus writes:

 

how do you correct biomechanical imbalance with gua sha? can you change an

equines foot for example?

 

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Anyone who has really practiced gua sha would experientially know that one

can easily decompress the tissues by these methods (including cupping if there

is no hair) thereby changing the tensions and counter tensions.

 

Richard

 

In a message dated 2/7/2007 2:53:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

alonmarcus writes:

 

how do you correct biomechanical imbalance with gua sha? can you change an

equines foot for example?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Kiran

The spur is just a response to tension on the plantar fascia. If the

biomechanics are not treated the spur will come back. Pt with heel spurs do not

have a higher % of pain than those that do not. treating the attachment of the

fascia, biomechanics and muscle balance works 99% of the time, most of the time

completely eliminating all symptoms.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

kiran phalke

pa-l

Tuesday, February 06, 2007 11:07 PM

Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis

 

 

It does not cause any pain as an analgesic and a steroid is already injected.

I have seen this

Kiran

 

 

Alon Marcus <alonmarcus wrote:

Why brake the spur it does not cause any pain its the plantar fascia

 

 

-

kiran phalke

pa-l

Monday, February 05, 2007 11:26 PM

Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis

 

Ht

I have seen in china that a spur is simply broen with a special needle called

PHI needle. An injection of steroid and an analgesic is given at a sight and

then (if anatomically possible) The PHI needle is inserted and hit on the spur

which breakes and eventually gets absobed in the body

Kiran Phalke

 

" P.T. Ferrance " <ptf1 wrote:

Hi,

I have read about dissolving bone spurs and have spoken with others about this

but have not actually done it myself. I have a woman with a possible bone spur

in her shoulder. Currently presenting with bursitis and biceps long head

tendonitis. She is deciding on whether or not to have x-rays re the spur.

 

Has anyone on the list actually dissolved a spur with acupuncture? If you have

would you mind sharing your technique. From what I have learned I have a sense

that it is done with a surround the dragon technique and then use e-stim. Is it

micro or mille-current? Or does it matter.

 

If you did something different please let me know.

 

Thanks for any help you can give.

 

P.T.

 

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Thanks, I thought we were headed for another vet discussion. :-)

doug

 

 

, " Alon Marcus " <alonmarcus wrote:

>

> Doug

> Its the talapi equino varus foot which tends to be a supinated foot (high

arched). If it is

compensated for the pt tends to have what looks like a very flat foot

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> -

>

>

> Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:18 PM

> Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis

>

>

> Alon, are you asking if you can change a horse's hoof? Or is this yet

another term I'm

not

> familiar with?

>

> doug

>

> , " Alon Marcus " <alonmarcus@>

wrote:

> >

> > how do you correct biomechanical imbalance with gua sha? can you change an

equines

> foot for example?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > acudoc11@

> > Chinese Medicine ; pa-l ;

>

> > Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:44 AM

> > Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis

> >

> >

> >

> > Plantar fascitis and/or achilles tendonitis are the usual causes of heel

> > spurs.

> >

> > The simplest correction of these biomechanical imbalances can be brought

> > about quickly by combining the use of BaGuaFa (gua sha and cupping) along

with

> > acupuncture needles.

> >

> > Once the tension imbalance is alleviated the mechanism of osteoclasts will

> > reverse the heel spur over time.

> >

> > Richard

> >

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 2/7/2007 10:40:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> > alonmarcus@ writes:

> >

> > The spur is just a response to tension on the plantar fascia. If the

> > biomechanics are not treated the spur will come back. Pt with heel spurs

do not have

> > a higher % of pain than those that do not. treating the attachment of the

> > fascia, biomechanics and muscle balance works 99% of the time, most of the

> > time completely eliminating all symptoms.

> >

> >

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how do you correct biomechanical imbalance with gua sha? can you change an

equines foot for example?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

acudoc11

Chinese Medicine ; pa-l ;

 

Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:44 AM

Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis

 

 

 

Plantar fascitis and/or achilles tendonitis are the usual causes of heel

spurs.

 

The simplest correction of these biomechanical imbalances can be brought

about quickly by combining the use of BaGuaFa (gua sha and cupping) along with

acupuncture needles.

 

Once the tension imbalance is alleviated the mechanism of osteoclasts will

reverse the heel spur over time.

 

Richard

 

 

 

In a message dated 2/7/2007 10:40:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

alonmarcus writes:

 

The spur is just a response to tension on the plantar fascia. If the

biomechanics are not treated the spur will come back. Pt with heel spurs do

not have

a higher % of pain than those that do not. treating the attachment of the

fascia, biomechanics and muscle balance works 99% of the time, most of the

time completely eliminating all symptoms.

 

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Anyone knows a good TCM dr in Viena

thanks

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

Alon Marcus

Chinese Medicine ; pa-l ;

 

Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:44 AM

Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis

 

 

how do you correct biomechanical imbalance with gua sha? can you change an

equines foot for example?

 

 

-

acudoc11

Chinese Medicine ; pa-l ;

 

Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:44 AM

Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis

 

Plantar fascitis and/or achilles tendonitis are the usual causes of heel

spurs.

 

The simplest correction of these biomechanical imbalances can be brought

about quickly by combining the use of BaGuaFa (gua sha and cupping) along with

acupuncture needles.

 

Once the tension imbalance is alleviated the mechanism of osteoclasts will

reverse the heel spur over time.

 

Richard

 

In a message dated 2/7/2007 10:40:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

alonmarcus writes:

 

The spur is just a response to tension on the plantar fascia. If the

biomechanics are not treated the spur will come back. Pt with heel spurs do

not have

a higher % of pain than those that do not. treating the attachment of the

fascia, biomechanics and muscle balance works 99% of the time, most of the

time completely eliminating all symptoms.

 

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Well Richard this foot type is do to body structure not tissues

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

acudoc11

Chinese Medicine ; pa-l ;

 

Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:14 PM

Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis

 

 

 

Anyone who has really practiced gua sha would experientially know that one

can easily decompress the tissues by these methods (including cupping if there

is no hair) thereby changing the tensions and counter tensions.

 

Richard

 

In a message dated 2/7/2007 2:53:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

alonmarcus writes:

 

how do you correct biomechanical imbalance with gua sha? can you change an

equines foot for example?

 

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Richard sorry should have said bony structure

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

Alon Marcus

pa-l ; Chinese Medicine ;

 

Wednesday, February 07, 2007 2:17 PM

Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis

 

 

Well Richard this foot type is do to body structure not tissues

 

 

-

acudoc11

Chinese Medicine ; pa-l ;

 

Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:14 PM

Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis

 

Anyone who has really practiced gua sha would experientially know that one

can easily decompress the tissues by these methods (including cupping if there

is no hair) thereby changing the tensions and counter tensions.

 

Richard

 

In a message dated 2/7/2007 2:53:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

alonmarcus writes:

 

how do you correct biomechanical imbalance with gua sha? can you change an

equines foot for example?

 

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Alon

]

One can effect a substantial change in the fascia that even covers bone and

I would even go so far as to say one can effect (release tensions) with gua

sha the periosteum.

 

A question comes to mind. Where might a muscle turn into a tendon? Where

might a tendon turn into periosteum or bone? Nowhere as there is no specific

location that suddenly turns 100% into soft tissue to a more substantial

tissue.

There is a gradual change. And although bone is more substantial

comparatively speaking......yet it is not as solid as some might think.

 

Fascia, tendon, muscle, can all be unnecessarily creating excessive pulling

forces on bone thereby stimulating the osteoblasts to activate causing

repetitive stress injury thereby causing what in some areas of the body might be

called osteoarthritis and in others areas bone spurs. For the most part the

body does not grow bone spurs no matter how small or big they are......unless

forces are triggering the body to fill in those spaces of excess tension.

 

While all of this is eventing.......blood vessels (even the smallest of

capillaries) are being stressed causing blood particles to extravasate from the

vascular system. Blood vessels are also not as solid as some might think. When

platelest and other blood particles wind up in interstitial tissue they do

what platelets do.....they coagulate, they agglutinate. Sometimes in between

the fibers of fascia and sometimes in larger clumps often in the interstitial

fluid. And those heme molecules so to speak RUST. This is what in major part

is seen as a result of gua sha and cupping called blood stagnation. Some

surfaces as petechiae and others as slightly larger accumulations = ecchymosis.

Recently a discussion I had with a neurologist before seeing the results of

gua sha or cupping spoke of this same 'rusting' in the interstitial fluid and

fascia. He knew it existed but never was able to see it released.

 

Richard Freiberg, OMD, AP, LAc

 

 

 

In a message dated 2/7/2007 5:43:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

alonmarcus writes:

 

Richard sorry should have said bony structure

Alon Marcus DOM

 

 

 

 

 

 

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With gua sha you can work directly on the achilles tendon and the fascia

which covers it....if the spur is towards the rear of the heel. If it is medial

then work more in the plantar fascia.

 

Cupping is more difficult unless you have small cups (rarely available but

some are curved to go around bone curves).

 

If the patient has tight hamstring muscles consider an acupuncture needle

technique of inserting quickly and removing quickly directly into the achilles

tendon just above the attachment to the calcaneus.

 

You can also apply BaGuaFa (gua sha and cupping) at the lumbo-sacral area to

relieve tensions most likely contributing to some of the problem.

 

Richard

 

In a message dated 2/7/2007 6:16:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

ptf1 writes:

 

Thank you all for the wealth of information you have offered. I will have to

pick and choose what I can use according to my scope of practice. Those

techniques that amount to minor surgery would pose a problem due to insurance

issues. Also, the heel is a very different structure than the shoulder. I am

comfortable with GUA SHA and cupping and give that a go.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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unless

forces are triggering the body to fill in those spaces of excess tension.

>>>>>>

Richard

That is correct and with some foot dysfunctions unless foot biomechanics is

corrected with a GOOD orthotic the stress cannot be reduced. I have used Gua Sha

for over 20 yr and know what it can do and what it cannot do

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

acudoc11

Chinese Medicine ; pa-l ;

 

Thursday, February 08, 2007 7:29 AM

Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis

 

 

 

Alon

]

One can effect a substantial change in the fascia that even covers bone and

I would even go so far as to say one can effect (release tensions) with gua

sha the periosteum.

 

A question comes to mind. Where might a muscle turn into a tendon? Where

might a tendon turn into periosteum or bone? Nowhere as there is no specific

location that suddenly turns 100% into soft tissue to a more substantial

tissue.

There is a gradual change. And although bone is more substantial

comparatively speaking......yet it is not as solid as some might think.

 

Fascia, tendon, muscle, can all be unnecessarily creating excessive pulling

forces on bone thereby stimulating the osteoblasts to activate causing

repetitive stress injury thereby causing what in some areas of the body might

be

called osteoarthritis and in others areas bone spurs. For the most part the

body does not grow bone spurs no matter how small or big they are......unless

forces are triggering the body to fill in those spaces of excess tension.

 

While all of this is eventing.......blood vessels (even the smallest of

capillaries) are being stressed causing blood particles to extravasate from

the

vascular system. Blood vessels are also not as solid as some might think. When

platelest and other blood particles wind up in interstitial tissue they do

what platelets do.....they coagulate, they agglutinate. Sometimes in between

the fibers of fascia and sometimes in larger clumps often in the interstitial

fluid. And those heme molecules so to speak RUST. This is what in major part

is seen as a result of gua sha and cupping called blood stagnation. Some

surfaces as petechiae and others as slightly larger accumulations =

ecchymosis.

Recently a discussion I had with a neurologist before seeing the results of

gua sha or cupping spoke of this same 'rusting' in the interstitial fluid and

fascia. He knew it existed but never was able to see it released.

 

Richard Freiberg, OMD, AP, LAc

 

 

 

In a message dated 2/7/2007 5:43:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

alonmarcus writes:

 

Richard sorry should have said bony structure

 

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unless

forces are triggering the body to fill in those spaces of excess tension.

>>>>>>

Richard

That is correct and with some foot dysfunctions unless foot biomechanics is

corrected with a GOOD orthotic the stress cannot be reduced. I have used Gua Sha

for over 20 yr and know what it can do and what it cannot do

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

acudoc11

Chinese Medicine ; pa-l ;

 

Thursday, February 08, 2007 7:29 AM

Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis

 

 

 

Alon

]

One can effect a substantial change in the fascia that even covers bone and

I would even go so far as to say one can effect (release tensions) with gua

sha the periosteum.

 

A question comes to mind. Where might a muscle turn into a tendon? Where

might a tendon turn into periosteum or bone? Nowhere as there is no specific

location that suddenly turns 100% into soft tissue to a more substantial

tissue.

There is a gradual change. And although bone is more substantial

comparatively speaking......yet it is not as solid as some might think.

 

Fascia, tendon, muscle, can all be unnecessarily creating excessive pulling

forces on bone thereby stimulating the osteoblasts to activate causing

repetitive stress injury thereby causing what in some areas of the body might

be

called osteoarthritis and in others areas bone spurs. For the most part the

body does not grow bone spurs no matter how small or big they are......unless

forces are triggering the body to fill in those spaces of excess tension.

 

While all of this is eventing.......blood vessels (even the smallest of

capillaries) are being stressed causing blood particles to extravasate from

the

vascular system. Blood vessels are also not as solid as some might think. When

platelest and other blood particles wind up in interstitial tissue they do

what platelets do.....they coagulate, they agglutinate. Sometimes in between

the fibers of fascia and sometimes in larger clumps often in the interstitial

fluid. And those heme molecules so to speak RUST. This is what in major part

is seen as a result of gua sha and cupping called blood stagnation. Some

surfaces as petechiae and others as slightly larger accumulations =

ecchymosis.

Recently a discussion I had with a neurologist before seeing the results of

gua sha or cupping spoke of this same 'rusting' in the interstitial fluid and

fascia. He knew it existed but never was able to see it released.

 

Richard Freiberg, OMD, AP, LAc

 

 

 

In a message dated 2/7/2007 5:43:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

alonmarcus writes:

 

Richard sorry should have said bony structure

 

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Alon

 

More often than not there are contributing factors such as the need for

orthotics.

 

As part of the treatment plan one needs to resolve as many factors which

re-create the stress injury.

The discussion was what options of therapy for PT to use.

 

There is a huge difference between a practitioner who uses Gua Sha and

Cupping day in and day out for 15 years and one who occasionally uses Gua Sha.

The

point was not about you so please don't take it personally.

 

Richard Freiberg, OMD

 

In a message dated 2/8/2007 1:57:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

alonmarcus writes:

 

Richard

That is correct and with some foot dysfunctions unless foot biomechanics is

corrected with a GOOD orthotic the stress cannot be reduced. I have used Gua

Sha for over 20 yr and know what it can do and what it cannot do

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On Thursday 08 February 2007 1:47 pm, Alon Marcus wrote:

> unless

> forces are triggering the body to fill in those spaces of excess tension.

>

> Richard

> That is correct and with some foot dysfunctions unless foot biomechanics is

> corrected with a GOOD orthotic

 

Hi Alon!

 

How do you get a good orthotic?

 

--

Regards,

 

Pete

http://www.pete-theisen.com/

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Pete

You need to see someone that specializes in biomechanics. Most pediatrists do

not

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Pete Theisen

Chinese Medicine

Thursday, February 08, 2007 7:43 PM

Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis

 

 

On Thursday 08 February 2007 1:47 pm, Alon Marcus wrote:

> unless

> forces are triggering the body to fill in those spaces of excess tension.

>

> Richard

> That is correct and with some foot dysfunctions unless foot biomechanics is

> corrected with a GOOD orthotic

 

Hi Alon!

 

How do you get a good orthotic?

 

--

Regards,

 

Pete

http://www.pete-theisen.com/

 

 

 

 

 

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Richard interesting presentation, thank you. But I am not clear here ...

[are you saying that] 'blood stagnation' is the result of gua sha and

cupping?

................................

<,snipped>> ... blood particles wind up in interstitial tissue they do

what platelets do.....they coagulate, they agglutinate. Sometimes in between

the fibers of fascia and sometimes in larger clumps often in the

interstitial

fluid. And those heme molecules so to speak RUST. This is what in major part

is seen as a result of gua sha and cupping called blood

stagnation....<<snipped>>

Richard Freiberg, OMD, AP, LAc

 

Have a joyous and prosperous new year

 

Peace

 

Ed Kasper LAc. & family

www.HappyHerbalist.com

Santa Cruz, CA

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Many chiropractic physicians cast and fit orthotics. That would probably

be your best option.

 

 

On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:46:40 -0500, Alon Marcus <alonmarcus

wrote:

 

> Pete

> You need to see someone that specializes in biomechanics. Most

> pediatrists do not

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> -

> Pete Theisen

> Chinese Medicine

> Thursday, February 08, 2007 7:43 PM

> Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis

>

>

> On Thursday 08 February 2007 1:47 pm, Alon Marcus wrote:

> > unless

> > forces are triggering the body to fill in those spaces of excess

> tension.

> >

> > Richard

> > That is correct and with some foot dysfunctions unless foot

> biomechanics is

> > corrected with a GOOD orthotic

>

> Hi Alon!

>

> How do you get a good orthotic?

>

> --

> Regards,

>

> Pete

> http://www.pete-theisen.com/

>

>

>

>

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Very few chiros are well trained in orthotic therapy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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" Dr. Avery Jenkins " <docaltmed

<Chinese Medicine >

Friday, February 09, 2007 6:02 AM

Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis

 

 

> Many chiropractic physicians cast and fit orthotics. That would probably

> be your best option.

>

>

> On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:46:40 -0500, Alon Marcus <alonmarcus

> wrote:

>

>> Pete

>> You need to see someone that specializes in biomechanics. Most

>> pediatrists do not

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> -

>> Pete Theisen

>> Chinese Medicine

>> Thursday, February 08, 2007 7:43 PM

>> Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis

>>

>>

>> On Thursday 08 February 2007 1:47 pm, Alon Marcus wrote:

>> > unless

>> > forces are triggering the body to fill in those spaces of excess

>> tension.

>> >

>> > Richard

>> > That is correct and with some foot dysfunctions unless foot

>> biomechanics is

>> > corrected with a GOOD orthotic

>>

>> Hi Alon!

>>

>> How do you get a good orthotic?

>>

>> --

>> Regards,

>>

>> Pete

>> http://www.pete-theisen.com/

>>

>>

>>

>>

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