Ling Zhi

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" HappyHerbalist.com " <Health

 

Monday, April 24, 2000 10:35 PM

Ling Zhi

 

 

> 70 year old woman has colon cancer. A second operation last year removed

the

> cancer but now it has appeared in her upper chest. Hospice has just come

in

> and has given her morphine for the pain but became constipated and they

gave

> her a laxative resulting in severe diarrhea for 2/3 days now somewhat

under

> control.

> I was called a few days ago to treat sciatica pain, no doubt aggravated by

> her being bed-ridden.

> I found her in mild discomfort. She had fevers 100 - 101 in the evenings

for

> the last week. Her tongue deep Red and Purple and Peeled and White Spots

> (Thrush). Lung Spleen and Mingmen deep and weak. Heart and Liver more

> floating regular and steady Kidney Yin deep and weak. At the time no one

> could tell me all the pills she was on. She had acupuncture before but

> didn't like the pain but was feeling desperate - even with the morphine.

I

> offered to treat her with a Laser (LED) and she said she felt better right

> after the treatment and again today when I saw her she said she felt

better

> and that it worked some.

> I couldn't think of a Herbal sciatica formula - afraid that it would be

too

> warm. I thought of Ling Zhi (Reshi) for her overall condition and thought

> drinking the Ling Zhi all day would be good, but should wait till the

> diarrhea resolves.

>

> Any opinions, please

> Ed Kasper L.Ac., Santa Cruz, California

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Dear Ed

 

Given her age and metastatic cancer, it seems likely that only

palliation is possible. Is she receiving radiation and/or

chemotherapy? It is true that typical sciatica formulae are warming,

but this would not be a concern unless yin xu is prominent. Basic

TCM

texts aside, I think yang and qi xu are typically present in elderly

women. Since there are no marked vacuity heat signs, like hot

flashes,

nightsweats, five heart heat, I would wonder whether the tongue signs

has been distorted by drugs or radiation. Do you know? If there is

mild simultaneous yin xu, dampheat or depressed liver heat, these can

easily be treated concurrently.

 

It is worth noting that the standard formula for sciatica is du huo

ji

sheng tang. DHJST can be partially understood as a variation of shi

quan da bu wan. This is notable because SQDBW is the most researched

formula for use in cancer patients to inhibit metastasis and aid

recovery. While generally thought of as a qi and yang tonic, it is

actually fairly balanced, containing shu di, ji sheng and bai shao

for

yin xu and qin jiao for xu heat. the only really warming herbs in

this

formula are xi xin and rou gui, both used in very low doses. Rou gui

also leads fire back to the mingmen and finally, according to Li dong

yuan, supplmentation of spleen can clear heat in what are called yin

fire patterns, which may actually be more prevalent than pure yin xu

heat in American patients.

 

 

, " HappyHerbalist.com " <

Health@H...> wrote:

> 70 year old woman has colon cancer. A second operation last year

removed the

> cancer but now it has appeared in her upper chest. Hospice has just

come in

> and has given her morphine for the pain but became constipated and

they gave

> her a laxative resulting in severe diarrhea for 2/3 days now

somewhat under

> control.

> I was called a few days ago to treat sciatica pain, no doubt

aggravated by

> her being bed-ridden.

> I found her in mild discomfort. She had fevers 100 - 101 in the

evenings for

> the last week. Her tongue deep Red and Purple and Peeled and White

Spots

> (Thrush). Lung Spleen and Mingmen deep and weak. Heart and Liver

more

> floating regular and steady Kidney Yin deep and weak. At the time

no one

> could tell me all the pills she was on. She had acupuncture before

but

> didn't like the pain but was feeling desperate - even with the

morphine. I

> offered to treat her with a Laser (LED) and she said she felt

better right

> after the treatment and again today when I saw her she said she

felt better

> and that it worked some.

> I couldn't think of a Herbal sciatica formula - afraid that it

would be too

> warm. I thought of Ling Zhi (Reshi) for her overall condition and

thought

> drinking the Ling Zhi all day would be good, but should wait till

the

> diarrhea resolves.

>

> Any opinions, please

> Ed Kasper L.Ac., Santa Cruz, California

[Guest guest]

Ed-

 

You might add 10% cordyceps (Dong chong xia cao) to the Ling zhi. I

learned this from Santi Rosswong, a Thai doctor who worked extensively

with cancer patients. The cordyceps will help her stamina. He found

better assimilation of the herbs if combined with high dosage vitamin C,

and potentiation of the ganoderma with folic acid.

 

Too bad they didn't let you use a gentler herbal laxative.

 

Karen Vaughan

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hi Fred, the divine farmers materia medica has a nice discussion of ling Zhi.

Enjoy, Eti

 

>"Alfred Russo"

> > > Ling Zhi >Mon, 10 Sep 2001 19:26:53 > > >Hello Group, >This may have been discussed before, but could someone direct me to the qi >and functions of >Ling Zhi (specifically red) > > >Thanks, > >Fred > >_______________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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if you use good quality and double steam it , you can get by with less

sleep ........I am not sure why

it will aggravate yin xu , and give night sweats etc

H

[Guest guest]

You can check Hong-yen Hsu's " Chinese Materia Medica " , or the Blue Poppy

translation of " Divine Farmer's Materia Medica " .

 

 

On Monday, July 15, 2002, at 02:16 PM, wrote:

 

> Which materia medica gives a good summary of ling zhi/ganoderma.

>

>

> Chinese Herbs

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> voice:

> fax:

>

> " Great spirits have always been violently opposed by mediocre minds " --

> Albert Einstein

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why don't you look at Peter Holmes' wonderful 2-volume series (Jade Remedies)? or Terry Willard's entire book on Reishi Mushroom published by Sylvan Press? Both have lots of info on LIng Zhi.

 

Julie

Which materia medica gives a good summary of ling zhi/ganoderma. Chinese Herbshttp://www..orgvoice: fax: "Great spirits have always been violently opposed by mediocre minds" -- Albert Einstein

[Guest guest]

, Julie Chambers <info@j...>

wrote:

> why don't you look at Peter Holmes' wonderful 2-volume

series (Jade Remedies)? or Terry Willard's entire book on

Reishi Mushroom published by Sylvan Press? Both have lots of

info on LIng Zhi

 

I am looking for something a little more directly sourced from a

chinese materia medica. Hsu's work is not adequate, either.

 

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zrosenbe@s...> wrote:

> You can check Hong-yen Hsu's " Chinese Materia Medica " , or

the Blue Poppy

> translation of " Divine Farmer's Materia Medica " .

 

the BP book is good, but I want a modern source.

 

[Guest guest]

Then we will just have to translate material from the zhong yao da ci

dian. There's a lot of material in there (listing #2395).

 

 

 

 

On Monday, July 15, 2002, at 08:09 PM, 1 wrote:

 

> , Julie Chambers <info@j...>

> wrote:

> > why don't you look at Peter Holmes' wonderful 2-volume

> series (Jade Remedies)? or Terry Willard's entire book on

> Reishi Mushroom published by Sylvan Press? Both have lots of

> info on LIng Zhi

>

> I am looking for something a little more directly sourced from a

> chinese materia medica.  Hsu's work is not adequate, either.

>

 

>

>

 

>

>

> Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed

> healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate

> academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety

> of professional services, including board approved online continuing

> education.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

 

 

I am looking for something a little more directly sourced from a

chinese materia medica. Hsu's work is not adequate, either.

 

Julie writes:

 

I understand. Can anyone explain why Ling Zhi is not included in Bensky's

Materia Medica?

 

 

 

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Monday, July 15, 2002 8:09 PM

Re: ling zhi

 

 

> , Julie Chambers <info@j...>

> wrote:

> > why don't you look at Peter Holmes' wonderful 2-volume

> series (Jade Remedies)? or Terry Willard's entire book on

> Reishi Mushroom published by Sylvan Press? Both have lots of

> info on LIng Zhi

>

> I am looking for something a little more directly sourced from a

> chinese materia medica. Hsu's work is not adequate, either.

>

 

>

>

>

> Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare

practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing

in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services,

including board approved online continuing education.

>

>

>

>

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I am looking for something a little more directly sourced from achinese materia medica. Hsu's work is not adequate, either.

I have the "Chinese - English Manual of Common-Used in Traditional " by Ou Ming from the Guandong Science and Tech Publishing House that is a Materia Medica which has information on Ling Zhi. What specifically are you looking for? It's bland in taste, warm in nature, and enters the heart, spleen, lung, liver, and kidney channels. There are two action/indications listed and 6 pharmacological Actions listed. I can enter it at a more reasonable hour if interested. Decoction dose is 3-10g.

 

FYI, I have been using a new manufacturing method that pulverizes herbal materials into a 300 mesh powder at very low temperature on Ling zhi that seems to make its constituents more bioavailable. In its whole form it is very difficult to effect a thorough extraction of the bioactive elements. Even using the It is also available in China in a fermented powder form. All fermented fungi powders are from asexual spores and typically have very similar chemical make-up to the fruiting bodies.

 

Stephen

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, " stephen " <stephen@b...>

wrote:

What

> specifically are you looking for? It's bland in taste, warm in

nature, and

> enters the heart, spleen, lung, liver, and kidney channels.

 

That's a good start, thanks. when you have a chance, the

traditional actions and indications. I'm pretty familiar with the

pharmacology already.

 

[Guest guest]

Ling Zhi is typically not listed in standard undergraduate

textbook materia medicas because it does not show up in standard

undergraduate formula books. It tends to be used as a single the same

as a nutritional supplement. Materia medicas like B & G's are meant to

segue with polypharmacy fang ji xue (formula) books. If no formulas in

the standard formulas books include a medicinal, then the medicinal is

not typically found in the preceding materia medicas. When more

formulas are composed with Ling Zhi as an ingredient and those

formulas make it into standard fang ji xue books, then Ling Zhi will

show up in more undergraduate materia medicas meant as teaching

textbooks in CM colleges.

 

This same situation has only relatively recently been changed in terms

of He Shou Wu. There weren't many formulas containing He Shou Wu. For

many years, He Shou Wu was used more as a folk medicine single than a

part of professional polypharmacy prescribing. As more formulas with

Shou Wu in them became famous, Shou Wu moved from a folk single to a

part of our standard materia medica. Same also with San Qi/Tian Qi.

 

Bob

 

Can anyone explain why Ling Zhi is not included in

Bensky's

> Materia Medica?

>

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>

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> 1 <@i...>

>

> Monday, July 15, 2002 8:09 PM

> Re: ling zhi

>

>

> > , Julie Chambers <info@j...>

> > wrote:

> > > why don't you look at Peter Holmes' wonderful 2-volume

> > series (Jade Remedies)? or Terry Willard's entire book on

> > Reishi Mushroom published by Sylvan Press? Both have lots of

> > info on LIng Zhi

> >

> > I am looking for something a little more directly sourced from a

> > chinese materia medica. Hsu's work is not adequate, either.

> >

>

> >

> >

> >

> > Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed

healthcare

> practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics

specializing

> in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional

services,

> including board approved online continuing education.

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

, " 1 " <@i...> wrote:

> , " stephen " <stephen@b...>

> wrote:

> What

> > specifically are you looking for? It's bland in taste, warm in

> nature, and

> > enters the heart, spleen, lung, liver, and kidney channels.

>

> That's a good start, thanks. when you have a chance, the

> traditional actions and indications. I'm pretty familiar with the

> pharmacology already.

>

 

 

Indications:

 

1. Tranquilize the mind, enrich vital energy and blood: for

deficiency of heart energy or heart-blood manifested as insomnia,

dreaminess, amnesia, dullness, frightening and severe palpitation;

also used for all types of vital energy deficiency syndrome and blood

deficiency syndrome.

2. Eliminate phlegm, relieve cough and dyspnea: for deficiency-

syndrome with cough and dyspnea. Recently also used for

hyperlipidemia, hypertension, coronary heart diseases, arrhythmia,

leukocytopenia and hepatitis.

 

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[Guest guest]

 

I have also been told that Ling Zhi is used in China to prepare people for ascents to altitude. The idea was to prevent altitude sickness among soldiers and supposedly it was their secret weapon in conquering Tibet and in the war with India. If anyone has any information on this use of the herb I would be very interested in hearing about it.

 

Rich Blitstein

[Guest guest]

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 2:43 AM

 

when you have a chance, the

traditional actions and indications.

 

 

My email went out after midnight but yours came back at close to 3AM!

according to my computer. Ling zhi is said to help with sleep in case that

is part of your motivation.

 

Traditional Actions and indications:

1) Tranquilize the mind, enrich vital energy and blood: For deficiency of

heart energy or heart-blood manifested as insomnia, dreaminess, amnesia,

dullness, frightening and sever palpitation; also used for all types of

vital energy deficiency syndrome and blood deficiency syndrome.

2) Eliminate phlegm, relieve cough and dyspnea: For deficiency-syndrome

with cough and dyspnea.

 

Recently also used for hyperlipedemia, hypertension, coronary heart

diseases, arrhythmia, leukocytopenia and hepatitis.

 

The above is verbatim from the text. Note the use of that word " energy "

again.

 

 

 

Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare

practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing

in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services,

including board approved online continuing education.

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

 

 

 

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 2:10 AM

 

Digest Number 1055

 

 

Have you checked out the Reishi monograph from American Herbal

Pharmacopoeia edited by Roy Upton? It lists traditional therapeutic

functions:

Nourishes and calms Shen, relieves cough, tonifies qi and blood,

supplements the kidneys, and stabilizes the will.

I would be happy to fax you the page with the TCM Supplement.

 

Colleen

 

Message: 2

Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:43:10 -0000

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Re: ling zhi

 

, " stephen " <stephen@b...>

wrote:

What

> specifically are you looking for? It's bland in taste, warm in

nature, and

> enters the heart, spleen, lung, liver, and kidney channels.

 

That's a good start, thanks. when you have a chance, the

traditional actions and indications. I'm pretty familiar with the

pharmacology already.

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Rich,

 

I use Ling Zhi in a formula to prevent altitude sickness. I originally obtained the protocol from ITM's report on this syndrome which also gives the history of it's use. As you've stated, it was used to prepare Chinese soldiers for the invasion of Tibet. Very successfully. I like to think that my uses of it for mountain climbing and hiking patients is slightly more noble, though less grandiose. Works incredibly well from both a personal point of view, as well as patient feedback.

 

Mark Reese

 

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Richard Blitstein

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 10:33 AM

Re: ling zhi

 

 

 

I have also been told that Ling Zhi is used in China to prepare people for ascents to altitude. The idea was to prevent altitude sickness among soldiers and supposedly it was their secret weapon in conquering Tibet and in the war with India. If anyone has any information on this use of the herb I would be very interested in hearing about it.

 

Rich BlitsteinChinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education.

[Guest guest]

Rich, can you give the link to the ITM report and how

I can access the research literature??

thank you, Eti

--- Mark Reese <tcm2 wrote:

> Rich,

>

> I use Ling Zhi in a formula to prevent altitude

> sickness. I originally obtained the protocol from

> ITM's report on this syndrome which also gives the

> history of it's use. As you've stated, it was used

> to prepare Chinese soldiers for the invasion of

> Tibet. Very successfully. I like to think that my

> uses of it for mountain climbing and hiking patients

> is slightly more noble, though less grandiose. Works

> incredibly well from both a personal point of view,

> as well as patient feedback.

>

> Mark Reese

> -

> Richard Blitstein

>

> Tuesday, July 16, 2002 10:33 AM

> Re: ling zhi

>

>

>

>

> I have also been told that Ling Zhi is used in

> China to prepare people for ascents to altitude.

> The idea was to prevent altitude sickness among

> soldiers and supposedly it was their secret weapon

> in conquering Tibet and in the war with India. If

> anyone has any information on this use of the herb I

> would be very interested in hearing about it.

>

> Rich Blitstein

>

>

[Guest guest]

www.itmonline.org

 

The article in question is from the start group and only listed on the site. For full text you have to find someone who has the start group article or perhap you can ask Subhuti for it.

Rich

 

Eti Domb [etidomb]Thursday, July 18, 2002 11:52 AM Subject: Re: Re: ling zhiRich, can you give the link to the ITM report and howI can access the research literature??thank you, Eti--- Mark Reese <tcm2 wrote:> Rich,> > I use Ling Zhi in a formula to prevent altitude> sickness. I originally obtained the protocol from> ITM's report on this syndrome which also gives the> history of it's use. As you've stated, it was used> to prepare Chinese soldiers for the invasion of> Tibet. Very successfully. I like to think that my> uses of it for mountain climbing and hiking patients> is slightly more noble, though less grandiose. Works> incredibly well from both a personal point of view,> as well as patient feedback.> > Mark Reese> - > Richard Blitstein > > Tuesday, July 16, 2002 10:33 AM> Re: ling zhi> > > > > I have also been told that Ling Zhi is used in> China to prepare people for ascents to altitude. > The idea was to prevent altitude sickness among> soldiers and supposedly it was their secret weapon> in conquering Tibet and in the war with India. If> anyone has any information on this use of the herb I> would be very interested in hearing about it. > > Rich Blitstein> >

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, " rich " <richblit@r...> wrote:

As you've stated, it was used

> > to prepare Chinese soldiers for the invasion of

> > Tibet.

 

Wow. I can't believe how much we have to thank TCM for.

 

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No relation whatsoever.

 

 

On Oct 3, 2005, at 1:35 PM, Heiko Lade wrote:

 

> Can any one tell me if Ling Zhi (Ganoderma) and mistletoe plant

> (Viscum album) are related in any way. I ask because mistletoe is

> used in anthrosophical medicine to treat cancer and Ling Zhi is now

> being used to treat cancer.

>

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

, " "

<zrosenbe@s...> wrote:

> > Can any one tell me if Ling Zhi (Ganoderma) and mistletoe plant

> > (Viscum album) are related in any way.

 

Ling zhi is the sexual fruiting body of a saprophytic fungus.

Saprophytes live off of dead or decaying organic matter; without

saprophytes, our ecosystem would look dramatically different because

there would be a great deal of non-decomposed organic matter. Ling

zhi is distantly related to other polypores, such as zhu ling

(polypores have pores instead of gills, such as the delicious wild

mushroom porcini).

 

Mistletoe is a parasitic plant that gleans nutrients off of living

plant hosts.

 

Eric

[Guest guest]

Thomas

 

Much appreciated for your extra input to ling zhi. I can share an interesting

experience with ling zhi if any on CHA are interested.

 

When we were doing our masters in TCM at uni in Sydney there were a group of 5

of us who decided to take it for a term. I had read somewhere that Taoists used

to take it to increase their psychic abilities.

So we all had about 1 gram sliced ling zhi and double steamed it for 1 and half

hours and drank at night.

 

We all noticed that after a few weeks we were all sleeping less but not feeling

tired or irritable etc which happens when you normally go with less sleep.

 

Others and myself included felt we all felt happier and more content though none

of us felt any more psychic!

 

I use ling zhi now with depression of various etiologies and combine with yu

jing , he huan hua which I also find useful.

 

Heiko Lade

M.H.Sc.(TCM)

Lecturer and clinic supervisor

Auckland College of Natural Medicine

Website: www.acnm.co.nz

 

 

 

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Wednesday, October 05, 2005 8:17 AM

Ling zhi

 

 

All,

 

While both Z'ev and Eric are correct (mostly), it should be noted that many

different types of fungi are saprophytes, as are some plants. Saprophytes get

their nutriton exclusively from the ground, but mostly from roting organic

matter. Fungi are in a kingdom all by themselves and most of what we think of as

" mushrooms " whether they by gilled or polypores are saprophytes. Others that are

symbionts form beneficial relationships with other organisms and play a key role

in the uptake of nutrients for more that 95% of the worlds plants.

 

There are two main divisions of fungi Mastigomycota and Amastigomycota, the

latter are the ones we use. This group is divided into four groups, many of

which are saprophytes. The Basidiomycotina group, or " club fungi " is the group

where we find Ganoderma (ling zhi) and the rest of the polypores. This group

also contains most of the " fleshy fungi " which we call mushroom such as

Shiitake, as well as jelly fungi, smuts and puffballs.

 

There are quite a few Ganoderma's used around the world and Ganoderma lucidum

(ling zhi) grows on every continent except Australia. I have seen in on the East

Coast of the US. It is pretty much exclusive to hardwoods such as oak and

cherry.

 

The Mistletoe's (Viscaceae) are a diverse group of angiosperms (plants with

seeds protected by an overy), in 7 genera represented by ~~450 species. These

are perennial parasitic shrubs growing on the aboveground portions of woody

plants. Loranthaceae is a different genus and Viscaceae is sometime lumped in

that genus and is parasitic on a more diverse group of plants. I am honestly not

sure which of these two genera Taxillus (sang ji sheng) belongs to, do you know

Eric?

 

I'm sure this is more that any of you wanted, but is was fun to write and I

hope you enjoyed it as much as I did. Botany is of keen interest to me and since

I am considering the Ethnobotany program at the University of Hawai'i I thought

I would endulge myself. I personally believe if you are an herbalist, you must

be at least fluent enough in botany to know the difference between Ganoderma and

Taxillus!

 

Regards,

Thomas

 

" Eric Brand "

Ling zhi is the sexual fruiting body of a saprophytic fungus.

Saprophytes live off of dead or decaying organic matter; without

saprophytes, our ecosystem would look dramatically different because

there would be a great deal of non-decomposed organic matter. Ling

zhi is distantly related to other polypores, such as zhu ling

(polypores have pores instead of gills, such as the delicious wild

mushroom porcini).

 

Mistletoe is a parasitic plant that gleans nutrients off of living

plant hosts.

 

Eric

 

 

 

 

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