Acupuncture Licensing Regulation

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I find that many practitioners feel like they can just open an office put an ad

in the local alternative mag and see 20 plus patients a day. I say we are seeing

50 patients a week after 2 years, it is because I bust my ass and I have biz

experience. I give lectures on location, teach CEU's, contact and lecture at 3

univerisities, have a first rate website and don't miss any chance to educate. I

have surrounded myself with other 1st rate practitioners and we make folks well

and teach them how to stay that way. 90 percent of our new patients come from

word of mouth. I spend about $200 in ads each year if that. If you make people

well and make sure that folks know you are there AND act like a professional you

will do fine....even if there are 10 other practitioners right next to you.

There is no shortage of sick people out there any many are very open to

alternative medication. If they are not coming to see you, they are not the

problem.

Bob Linde, AP, RH (AHG)

www.acuherbals.com

 

ray ford <rford wrote:

 

Pete wrote:

Hi John!

 

Someone posted that he is doing well in St. Pete. Things are absolutely

terrible in Sarasota, don't even think of coming to Sarasota unless you

want to burn through a million dollars before you get established and

That might not do it.

 

Hello again Pete,

 

You seem like such a reasonable guy, you also come across to me at least

in these posts as angry, upset, bitter and very resistant. Your attitude

reminds me of my most difficult patients who ALWAYS say " YES,BUT.... "

they always add the but... to justify and defend why they refuse to

change their point of view or behaviour even though it is so obviously

not working. I would like to remind you (and myself) that we are dealing

with an energy based medicine.

As most communication between practitioner and patient is non-verbal,

(even if we are unaware of this fact) we cannot fake our state of being

when we are with them. IF the unfairness and injustice and confusion of

it all is bouncing around between your ears most of the day, your

patients we FEEL it and they won't want to come back, they may not know

why, they will NOT be enthusiastic about you amongst their friends and

family. Even " prospective " clients will feel it from a distance.

You have chosen to be (or been chosen?)an instrument (body, mind,

spirit) for helping others to heal, most are coming for help with their

energy. We have an obligation to raise our own levels in order to help

others do the same, this also goes for attitude, especially optimism, if

you can't find any how on earth do you offer it? Being a practitioner is

a privilege it is challenging but can be seen as an enormous opportunity

for personal growth, as witnessed by the amazing responses I have read

by some incredibly enlightened folk on this forum who are trying

desperately to help you. ARE YOU LISTENING.....??????

 

All the best

Ray Ford

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi Bob,

You also seem, motivated, passionate, disciplined and have buckets of

energy to offer, good for you!!

Regards

Ray Ford

 

 

Chinese Medicine

Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of Bob

Linde,AP, Herbalist

Thursday, 28 April 2005 12:28 AM

Chinese Medicine

RE: Acupuncture Licensing Regulation

 

 

I find that many practitioners feel like they can just open an office

put an ad in the local alternative mag and see 20 plus patients a day. I

say we are seeing 50 patients a week after 2 years, it is because I bust

my ass and I have biz experience. I give lectures on location, teach

CEU's, contact and lecture at 3 univerisities, have a first rate website

and don't miss any chance to educate. I have surrounded myself with

other 1st rate practitioners and we make folks well and teach them how

to stay that way. 90 percent of our new patients come from word of

mouth. I spend about $200 in ads each year if that. If you make people

well and make sure that folks know you are there AND act like a

professional you will do fine....even if there are 10 other

practitioners right next to you. There is no shortage of sick people out

there any many are very open to alternative medication. If they are not

coming to see you, they are not the problem.

Bob Linde, AP, RH (AHG)

www.acuherbals.com

 

ray ford <rford wrote:

 

Pete wrote:

Hi John!

 

Someone posted that he is doing well in St. Pete. Things are absolutely

terrible in Sarasota, don't even think of coming to Sarasota unless you

want to burn through a million dollars before you get established and

That might not do it.

 

Hello again Pete,

 

You seem like such a reasonable guy, you also come across to me at least

in these posts as angry, upset, bitter and very resistant. Your attitude

reminds me of my most difficult patients who ALWAYS say " YES,BUT.... "

they always add the but... to justify and defend why they refuse to

change their point of view or behaviour even though it is so obviously

not working. I would like to remind you (and myself) that we are dealing

with an energy based medicine.

As most communication between practitioner and patient is non-verbal,

(even if we are unaware of this fact) we cannot fake our state of being

when we are with them. IF the unfairness and injustice and confusion of

it all is bouncing around between your ears most of the day, your

patients we FEEL it and they won't want to come back, they may not know

why, they will NOT be enthusiastic about you amongst their friends and

family. Even " prospective " clients will feel it from a distance.

You have chosen to be (or been chosen?)an instrument (body, mind,

spirit) for helping others to heal, most are coming for help with their

energy. We have an obligation to raise our own levels in order to help

others do the same, this also goes for attitude, especially optimism, if

you can't find any how on earth do you offer it? Being a practitioner is

a privilege it is challenging but can be seen as an enormous opportunity

for personal growth, as witnessed by the amazing responses I have read

by some incredibly enlightened folk on this forum who are trying

desperately to help you. ARE YOU LISTENING.....??????

 

All the best

Ray Ford

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://babel.altavista.com/

 

 

and

adjust accordingly.

 

Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the

group requires prior permission from the author.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

This is a very inspired and inspiring post, Ray. A pleasure to read.

 

Thanks,

 

Tom.

 

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ray ford

04/27/05 15:41:42

Chinese Medicine

RE: Acupuncture Licensing Regulation

 

Hello again Pete,

 

You seem like such a reasonable guy, you also come across to me at least

in these posts as angry, upset, bitter and very resistant. Your attitude

reminds me of my most difficult patients who ALWAYS say " YES,BUT.... "

they always add the but... to justify and defend why they refuse to

change their point of view or behaviour even though it is so obviously

not working. I would like to remind you (and myself) that we are dealing

with an energy based medicine.

As most communication between practitioner and patient is non-verbal,

(even if we are unaware of this fact) we cannot fake our state of being

when we are with them. IF the unfairness and injustice and confusion of

it all is bouncing around between your ears most of the day, your

patients we FEEL it and they won't want to come back, they may not know

why, they will NOT be enthusiastic about you amongst their friends and

family. Even " prospective " clients will feel it from a distance.

You have chosen to be (or been chosen?)an instrument (body, mind,

spirit) for helping others to heal, most are coming for help with their

energy. We have an obligation to raise our own levels in order to help

others do the same, this also goes for attitude, especially optimism, if

you can't find any how on earth do you offer it? Being a practitioner is

a privilege it is challenging but can be seen as an enormous opportunity

for personal growth, as witnessed by the amazing responses I have read

by some incredibly enlightened folk on this forum who are trying

desperately to help you. ARE YOU LISTENING.....??????

 

All the best

Ray Ford

 

 

[Guest guest]

ray ford wrote:

>

> Pete wrote: Hi John!

>

> Someone posted that he is doing well in St. Pete. Things are

> absolutely terrible in Sarasota, don't even think of coming to

> Sarasota unless you want to burn through a million dollars before you

> get established and That might not do it.

>

> Hello again Pete,

>

> You seem like such a reasonable guy

 

Hi Ray!

 

You seem like a reasonable guy as well. I am staring bankruptcy in the

face at age 60 and everyone is saying " smile, be happy, have more

*enthusiasm* " . Who is being unreasonable here, anyway?

 

As has been posted to this list by a number of others as well as myself

this could be helped quite a bit if the ten-year effort to get Medicare

coverage would *finally* succeed. But every time I go to see my

congresswoman I always get the story that I am the only one out of some

50 practitioners and over 100 students in her district that has bothered

to call about the issue.

 

Regards,

 

Pete

[Guest guest]

Bob Linde,AP, Herbalist wrote:

> I find that many practitioners feel like they can just open an office

> put an ad in the local alternative mag and see 20 plus patients a

> day. I say we are seeing 50 patients a week after 2 years, it is

> because I bust my ass and I have biz experience. I give lectures on

> location, teach CEU's, contact and lecture at 3 univerisities, have a

> first rate website

 

<snip>

 

Bob Linde, AP, RH (AHG) www.acuherbals.com

 

Hi Dr. Bob!

 

Yes, you do have a first rate website. To pick a nit, though:

 

" Most insurance companies provide acupuncture benefits. "

 

Do they? The figure most often cited is 40% of the insurance companies

have some acupuncture coverage.

 

Regards,

 

Pete