Acupuncture Licensing Regulation

April 22, 2005

Hi, My name is John. I am planning to go to an acreditated school

for

Master degree of TCM. But what bothers me is that each state has

different regulations regarding this field of practise. I am right

now

in FL. But not sure if I want to live here for ever. I don't know

where

I

am going to be in the future at the moment.

I know there are lots of L.Ac in this group. Can someone give me

some

insight of receiving education in FL, but very possiblly move to

West

(CA, Hawaii, Arizona etc)coast in the future. I know I can check

each

state regulations on those. But what's my chance are for being

eligible for the state licensing besides the certification by NCCAOM.

Any possible information is helpful. and I do appreciate any

feedback.

Thank you in advance,

John

April 23, 2005

John,

You have some good questions and keeping an open mind will be an asset in

your search. I would also encourage you to check out what students and

others post about the various schools at

www.tcmstudent.com

Having said that where to begin? Location of living is quite an important

one and some graduates have had problems due to not finding out the

particulars of that state prior. As I see CA on your list, lets start

there. The CA Acupuncture Board has a listing of programs, both in CA and

in other states, that they recognize for licensure. You must attend one of

these to sit for licensure exam. The greatest number of options are open

with attendance from a CA program. The CAB school listing can be found at

http://www.acupuncture.ca.gov/education/schools.htm

Many programs use the NCCAOM certification exam in part or whole for

licensure. On your list AZ does. CA does not recognize this exam and

provides its own, which is rigorous. If you want more info about certain

schools you can email me offlist and we can discuss your questions. Take

care and I hope this helps. By the way, I attended a CA school and went

thru the CA licensing process.

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

naturaldoc1

> " jyoung6060 " <johnyoung01

>Chinese Medicine

> Acupuncture Licensing Regulation

>Fri, 22 Apr 2005 17:59:54 -0000

>

>Hi, My name is John. I am planning to go to an acreditated school

>for

>Master degree of TCM. But what bothers me is that each state has

>different regulations regarding this field of practise. I am right

>now

>in FL. But not sure if I want to live here for ever. I don't know

>where

>I

>am going to be in the future at the moment.

>

>I know there are lots of L.Ac in this group. Can someone give me

>some

>insight of receiving education in FL, but very possiblly move to

>West

>(CA, Hawaii, Arizona etc)coast in the future. I know I can check

>each

>state regulations on those. But what's my chance are for being

>eligible for the state licensing besides the certification by NCCAOM.

>

>Any possible information is helpful. and I do appreciate any

>feedback.

>

>Thank you in advance,

>

>John

>

April 24, 2005

John-

You might want to look at staying in FL. Fl has one of the most liberal scope

of practice in the nation.

jyoung6060 <johnyoung01 wrote:

Hi, My name is John. I am planning to go to an acreditated school

for

Master degree of TCM. But what bothers me is that each state has

different regulations regarding this field of practise. I am right

now

in FL. But not sure if I want to live here for ever. I don't know

where

I

am going to be in the future at the moment.

I know there are lots of L.Ac in this group. Can someone give me

some

insight of receiving education in FL, but very possiblly move to

West

(CA, Hawaii, Arizona etc)coast in the future. I know I can check

each

state regulations on those. But what's my chance are for being

eligible for the state licensing besides the certification by NCCAOM.

Any possible information is helpful. and I do appreciate any

feedback.

Thank you in advance,

John

http://babel.altavista.com/

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accordingly.

If you are a TCM academic and wish to discuss TCM with other academics, click on

this link

April 24, 2005

Although there might be one school program working with CA style

reqs....there has not been any move in Florida or in California to allow any

reciprocity

other than what is basic.

As to the title Acupuncture Physician - Florida is the only place in the

world which maintains that title and which the allopaths and Dept of Health et

al

are STILL trying to take it away. MDs have this idea that they OWN the

designation 'physician'.

Richard A. Freiberg, OMD, AP

Founder/President AOMNC

www.aomnc.com

Mathew is correct except that Nevada is also a state with its own written

exam but the issue of fragmentation is very much a concern. I have

suggested this strategy in choosing a school as well. For maximum choices

in licensure, consider an ACAOM and CA-recognized program (16 are in CA and

14 out of state). For the list check out the CA Acu bd website. I know

that one program in FL was working on CA reqs. FL does have one of the

better laws and designations (Acupuncture Physician) vs. (Licensed

Acupuncturist).

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

April 24, 2005

Hi John,

While each state has different regulations regarding issues such as scope of

practice, there are in essence, two licensing systems in the U.S. for Licensed

Acupuncturists/TCM practitioners. All states except California utilize NCCAOM

Certification/Diplomat status (or equivalent) for their licensing/certification.

Some state then also require a test of their local laws, etc. California has its

own exam and its own system to approve schools leading to exam. You should

therefore look for a school that is both ACAOM accredited AND accredited by the

California State Board if you think you may ever want to practice in California.

Once you graduate, you should then take both the NCCAOM exams and travel to

California and take their exam.

It is very unfortunate that we have such a cleaved system. California has no

reciprocity with any other state and no one here is even talking about it. Hope

this info helped - Matthew Bauer

-

jyoung6060

Chinese Medicine

Friday, April 22, 2005 10:59 AM

Acupuncture Licensing Regulation

Hi, My name is John. I am planning to go to an acreditated school

for

Master degree of TCM. But what bothers me is that each state has

different regulations regarding this field of practise. I am right

now

in FL. But not sure if I want to live here for ever. I don't know

where

I

am going to be in the future at the moment.

I know there are lots of L.Ac in this group. Can someone give me

some

insight of receiving education in FL, but very possiblly move to

West

(CA, Hawaii, Arizona etc)coast in the future. I know I can check

each

state regulations on those. But what's my chance are for being

eligible for the state licensing besides the certification by NCCAOM.

Any possible information is helpful. and I do appreciate any

feedback.

Thank you in advance,

John

http://babel.altavista.com/

and adjust

accordingly.

If you are a TCM academic and wish to discuss TCM with other academics, click

on this link

April 24, 2005

Mathew is correct except that Nevada is also a state with its own written

exam but the issue of fragmentation is very much a concern. I have

suggested this strategy in choosing a school as well. For maximum choices

in licensure, consider an ACAOM and CA-recognized program (16 are in CA and

14 out of state). For the list check out the CA Acu bd website. I know

that one program in FL was working on CA reqs. FL does have one of the

better laws and designations (Acupuncture Physician) vs. (Licensed

Acupuncturist).

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

> " Matt Bauer " <acu.guy

>Chinese Medicine

><Chinese Medicine >

>Re: Acupuncture Licensing Regulation

>Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:00:27 -0700

>

>Hi John,

>While each state has different regulations regarding issues such as scope

>of practice, there are in essence, two licensing systems in the U.S. for

>Licensed Acupuncturists/TCM practitioners. All states except California

>utilize NCCAOM Certification/Diplomat status (or equivalent) for their

>licensing/certification. Some state then also require a test of their local

>laws, etc. California has its own exam and its own system to approve

>schools leading to exam. You should therefore look for a school that is

>both ACAOM accredited AND accredited by the California State Board if you

>think you may ever want to practice in California. Once you graduate, you

>should then take both the NCCAOM exams and travel to California and take

>their exam.

>

>It is very unfortunate that we have such a cleaved system. California has

>no reciprocity with any other state and no one here is even talking about

>it. Hope this info helped - Matthew Bauer

>

> -

> jyoung6060

> Chinese Medicine

> Friday, April 22, 2005 10:59 AM

> Acupuncture Licensing Regulation

>

> Hi, My name is John. I am planning to go to an acreditated school

> for

> Master degree of TCM. But what bothers me is that each state has

> different regulations regarding this field of practise. I am right

> now

> in FL. But not sure if I want to live here for ever. I don't know

> where

> I

> am going to be in the future at the moment.

>

> I know there are lots of L.Ac in this group. Can someone give me

> some

> insight of receiving education in FL, but very possiblly move to

> West

> (CA, Hawaii, Arizona etc)coast in the future. I know I can check

> each

> state regulations on those. But what's my chance are for being

> eligible for the state licensing besides the certification by NCCAOM.

>

> Any possible information is helpful. and I do appreciate any

> feedback.

>

> Thank you in advance,

>

> John

>

>http://babel.altavista.com/

>

> and adjust

>accordingly.

>

> Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the

>group requires prior permission from the author.

>

> If you are a TCM academic and wish to discuss TCM with other academics,

>

April 24, 2005

It is doubtful that there will be any reciprocity anytime soon, which makes

school selection even more important if you want options. Right now CA

recognized programs and Asian schools are the only ones that allow grads

practice ops in all 50 states.

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

>acudoc11

>Chinese Medicine

>Re: Acupuncture Licensing Regulation

>Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:05:51 EDT

>

>Although there might be one school program working with CA style

>reqs....there has not been any move in Florida or in California to allow

>any reciprocity

>other than what is basic.

>

>As to the title Acupuncture Physician - Florida is the only place in the

>world which maintains that title and which the allopaths and Dept of Health

>et al

>are STILL trying to take it away. MDs have this idea that they OWN the

>designation 'physician'.

>

>Richard A. Freiberg, OMD, AP

>Founder/President AOMNC

>www.aomnc.com

>

>Mathew is correct except that Nevada is also a state with its own written

>exam but the issue of fragmentation is very much a concern. I have

>suggested this strategy in choosing a school as well. For maximum choices

>in licensure, consider an ACAOM and CA-recognized program (16 are in CA and

>14 out of state). For the list check out the CA Acu bd website. I know

>that one program in FL was working on CA reqs. FL does have one of the

>better laws and designations (Acupuncture Physician) vs. (Licensed

>Acupuncturist).

>

>Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

>

April 25, 2005

Mike, thank you for your information. I have checked the CA Acupuncture Board

- Approved Schools list. There is none of FL schools. You said there was one

program in FL that is working on CA reqs. Could you tell me which school is it

please. Another question, if I decide to go to China for the TCM program. Of

course classes has to be taught in English. is there any accredited list or any

TCM institutions recognized by Chinese government? Thank you.

-

mike Bowser

Chinese Medicine

Sunday, April 24, 2005 11:29 AM

Re: Acupuncture Licensing Regulation