Guest guest Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 I find that many practitioners feel like they can just open an office put an ad in the local alternative mag and see 20 plus patients a day. I say we are seeing 50 patients a week after 2 years, it is because I bust my ass and I have biz experience. I give lectures on location, teach CEU's, contact and lecture at 3 univerisities, have a first rate website and don't miss any chance to educate. I have surrounded myself with other 1st rate practitioners and we make folks well and teach them how to stay that way. 90 percent of our new patients come from word of mouth. I spend about $200 in ads each year if that. If you make people well and make sure that folks know you are there AND act like a professional you will do fine....even if there are 10 other practitioners right next to you. There is no shortage of sick people out there any many are very open to alternative medication. If they are not coming to see you, they are not the problem. Bob Linde, AP, RH (AHG) www.acuherbals.com ray ford <rford wrote: Pete wrote: Hi John! Someone posted that he is doing well in St. Pete. Things are absolutely terrible in Sarasota, don't even think of coming to Sarasota unless you want to burn through a million dollars before you get established and That might not do it. Hello again Pete, You seem like such a reasonable guy, you also come across to me at least in these posts as angry, upset, bitter and very resistant. Your attitude reminds me of my most difficult patients who ALWAYS say " YES,BUT.... " they always add the but... to justify and defend why they refuse to change their point of view or behaviour even though it is so obviously not working. I would like to remind you (and myself) that we are dealing with an energy based medicine. As most communication between practitioner and patient is non-verbal, (even if we are unaware of this fact) we cannot fake our state of being when we are with them. IF the unfairness and injustice and confusion of it all is bouncing around between your ears most of the day, your patients we FEEL it and they won't want to come back, they may not know why, they will NOT be enthusiastic about you amongst their friends and family. Even " prospective " clients will feel it from a distance. You have chosen to be (or been chosen?)an instrument (body, mind, spirit) for helping others to heal, most are coming for help with their energy. We have an obligation to raise our own levels in order to help others do the same, this also goes for attitude, especially optimism, if you can't find any how on earth do you offer it? Being a practitioner is a privilege it is challenging but can be seen as an enormous opportunity for personal growth, as witnessed by the amazing responses I have read by some incredibly enlightened folk on this forum who are trying desperately to help you. ARE YOU LISTENING.....?????? All the best Ray Ford http://babel.altavista.com/ and adjust accordingly. Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the group requires prior permission from the author. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 Hi Bob, You also seem, motivated, passionate, disciplined and have buckets of energy to offer, good for you!! Regards Ray Ford Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of Bob Linde,AP, Herbalist Thursday, 28 April 2005 12:28 AM Chinese Medicine RE: Acupuncture Licensing Regulation I find that many practitioners feel like they can just open an office put an ad in the local alternative mag and see 20 plus patients a day. I say we are seeing 50 patients a week after 2 years, it is because I bust my ass and I have biz experience. I give lectures on location, teach CEU's, contact and lecture at 3 univerisities, have a first rate website and don't miss any chance to educate. I have surrounded myself with other 1st rate practitioners and we make folks well and teach them how to stay that way. 90 percent of our new patients come from word of mouth. I spend about $200 in ads each year if that. If you make people well and make sure that folks know you are there AND act like a professional you will do fine....even if there are 10 other practitioners right next to you. There is no shortage of sick people out there any many are very open to alternative medication. If they are not coming to see you, they are not the problem. Bob Linde, AP, RH (AHG) www.acuherbals.com ray ford <rford wrote: Pete wrote: Hi John! Someone posted that he is doing well in St. Pete. Things are absolutely terrible in Sarasota, don't even think of coming to Sarasota unless you want to burn through a million dollars before you get established and That might not do it. Hello again Pete, You seem like such a reasonable guy, you also come across to me at least in these posts as angry, upset, bitter and very resistant. Your attitude reminds me of my most difficult patients who ALWAYS say " YES,BUT.... " they always add the but... to justify and defend why they refuse to change their point of view or behaviour even though it is so obviously not working. I would like to remind you (and myself) that we are dealing with an energy based medicine. As most communication between practitioner and patient is non-verbal, (even if we are unaware of this fact) we cannot fake our state of being when we are with them. IF the unfairness and injustice and confusion of it all is bouncing around between your ears most of the day, your patients we FEEL it and they won't want to come back, they may not know why, they will NOT be enthusiastic about you amongst their friends and family. Even " prospective " clients will feel it from a distance. You have chosen to be (or been chosen?)an instrument (body, mind, spirit) for helping others to heal, most are coming for help with their energy. We have an obligation to raise our own levels in order to help others do the same, this also goes for attitude, especially optimism, if you can't find any how on earth do you offer it? Being a practitioner is a privilege it is challenging but can be seen as an enormous opportunity for personal growth, as witnessed by the amazing responses I have read by some incredibly enlightened folk on this forum who are trying desperately to help you. ARE YOU LISTENING.....?????? All the best Ray Ford http://babel.altavista.com/ and adjust accordingly. Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the group requires prior permission from the author. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 This is a very inspired and inspiring post, Ray. A pleasure to read. Thanks, Tom. ---- ray ford 04/27/05 15:41:42 Chinese Medicine RE: Acupuncture Licensing Regulation Hello again Pete, You seem like such a reasonable guy, you also come across to me at least in these posts as angry, upset, bitter and very resistant. Your attitude reminds me of my most difficult patients who ALWAYS say " YES,BUT.... " they always add the but... to justify and defend why they refuse to change their point of view or behaviour even though it is so obviously not working. I would like to remind you (and myself) that we are dealing with an energy based medicine. As most communication between practitioner and patient is non-verbal, (even if we are unaware of this fact) we cannot fake our state of being when we are with them. IF the unfairness and injustice and confusion of it all is bouncing around between your ears most of the day, your patients we FEEL it and they won't want to come back, they may not know why, they will NOT be enthusiastic about you amongst their friends and family. Even " prospective " clients will feel it from a distance. You have chosen to be (or been chosen?)an instrument (body, mind, spirit) for helping others to heal, most are coming for help with their energy. We have an obligation to raise our own levels in order to help others do the same, this also goes for attitude, especially optimism, if you can't find any how on earth do you offer it? Being a practitioner is a privilege it is challenging but can be seen as an enormous opportunity for personal growth, as witnessed by the amazing responses I have read by some incredibly enlightened folk on this forum who are trying desperately to help you. ARE YOU LISTENING.....?????? All the best Ray Ford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 ray ford wrote: > > Pete wrote: Hi John! > > Someone posted that he is doing well in St. Pete. Things are > absolutely terrible in Sarasota, don't even think of coming to > Sarasota unless you want to burn through a million dollars before you > get established and That might not do it. > > Hello again Pete, > > You seem like such a reasonable guy Hi Ray! You seem like a reasonable guy as well. I am staring bankruptcy in the face at age 60 and everyone is saying " smile, be happy, have more *enthusiasm* " . Who is being unreasonable here, anyway? As has been posted to this list by a number of others as well as myself this could be helped quite a bit if the ten-year effort to get Medicare coverage would *finally* succeed. But every time I go to see my congresswoman I always get the story that I am the only one out of some 50 practitioners and over 100 students in her district that has bothered to call about the issue. Regards, Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Bob Linde,AP, Herbalist wrote: > I find that many practitioners feel like they can just open an office > put an ad in the local alternative mag and see 20 plus patients a > day. I say we are seeing 50 patients a week after 2 years, it is > because I bust my ass and I have biz experience. I give lectures on > location, teach CEU's, contact and lecture at 3 univerisities, have a > first rate website <snip> Bob Linde, AP, RH (AHG) www.acuherbals.com Hi Dr. Bob! Yes, you do have a first rate website. To pick a nit, though: " Most insurance companies provide acupuncture benefits. " Do they? The figure most often cited is 40% of the insurance companies have some acupuncture coverage. Regards, Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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