New Member

[Guest guest]

Hi Trudi,

bugs

 

> , " organikmum " <organikmum

> wrote:

>

>> Hi All *smile*

>

>> I found this group through Butch's links! A wonderful surprise it

> was

>> at that! I'm a member of a couple of and recognise some

>> of the names here already.

>

> Trudi

[Guest guest]

Merry meet Trudi,

 

you sound just great!

 

 

[Guest guest]

welcome, sagiv, and 1 non tcm question, what does sagiv mean? thx, lynn

 

[benyakir] wrote:

Happy New Year to all list members,

My name is Sagiv (=first name, an old Biblical one) Ben-Yakir.

I am a veterinarian that using TCM for animals (all species & sizes etc

from dog to cow from camel to cat, exotics etc). I am into clinical,

teaching, education and research activities in these fields.

It is an honor & privelage to be with you & try to contribute my small

share based on my 20 yrs knowledge in the field,

Sagiv.

[Guest guest]

Hi Lynn,

>>welcome, sagiv, and 1 non tcm question, what does sagiv mean? thx, lynn<<

Thanks for your greetings.

Sagiv means Mighty... and the next question someone might asks: " did it influence

your life? " - it might if I was

a small guy (in cm/inches) or a stupid one :-) ,and than you have " to fight your

way in life " or a better solution -

change your name accordingly.

Let me take this opportunity and pose/ask a question to you and others in the

list: " In animals I am using acupuncture points around the eyes (BL-01, BL-02,

ST-01, GB-01, GB-14 etc) and the insertion is done very deep, how do you feel

about acupuncturing in humans in these " kind-of-delicate " areas? is it done?

Happy New Year & Holidays,

Sagiv.

 

Dr. Sagiv Ben-Yakir

BSC DVM(in honor) MRCVS CVA(IVAS)

benyakir

 

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J. Lynn Detamore

Chinese Medicine

Saturday, December 30, 2006 7:49 AM

Re: New member

 

 

welcome, sagiv, and 1 non tcm question, what does sagiv mean? thx, lynn

 

[benyakir] wrote:

Happy New Year to all list members,

My name is Sagiv (=first name, an old Biblical one) Ben-Yakir.

I am a veterinarian that using TCM for animals (all species & sizes etc

from dog to cow from camel to cat, exotics etc). I am into clinical,

teaching, education and research activities in these fields.

It is an honor & privelage to be with you & try to contribute my small

share based on my 20 yrs knowledge in the field,

Sagiv.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

On Saturday 30 December 2006 05:32, Ben-Yakir wrote:

 

Hi Dr. Sagiv,

 

Generally, these points are not used. The one time we tried it on a student

volunteer - she had a " panda eye " for months. That was just one point, and

the teacher did the needling. Bummer . . .

 

> Hi Lynn,

>

> >>welcome, sagiv, and 1 non tcm question, what does sagiv mean? thx, lynn<<

>

> Thanks for your greetings.

> Sagiv means Mighty... and the next question someone might asks: " did it

> influence your life? " - it might if I was a small guy (in cm/inches) or a

> stupid one :-) ,and than you have " to fight your way in life " or a better

> solution - change your name accordingly.

> Let me take this opportunity and pose/ask a question to you and others in

> the list: " In animals I am using acupuncture points around the eyes (BL-01,

> BL-02, ST-01, GB-01, GB-14 etc) and the insertion is done very deep, how do

> you feel about acupuncturing in humans in these " kind-of-delicate " areas?

> is it done?

--

Regards,

 

Pete

http://www.pete-theisen.com/

[Guest guest]

I needle Jingming BL1 at least one time per week. I have had one case of

panda eye since, but I always inform my patients before I start. I tell them

that Jingming is sometimes the best point to use with certain conditions.

Sometimes there is no other point to replace it. I always make sure to press

the point firmly after removing the needle. I needle it 1 cun deep. I know

there are doctors who needle it deeper, but I haven't found that necessary.

 

Julian Scott has a nice little book on the treatment of eye diseases, in it

there are many extra points around the eye one can needle. I think both

acupuncture and herbs can be very efficacious in the treatment of eye

problems.

 

Happy New Year!

 

Tom.

 

Acupunctuurpraktijk Tom Verhaeghe

Stationsplein 59

B-8770 Ingelmunster

051 699 005

tom.verhaeghe

www.chinese-geneeskunde.be

 

 

 

----

 

Pete Theisen

31/12/2006 5:15:09

Chinese Medicine

Re: New member

 

On Saturday 30 December 2006 05:32, Ben-Yakir wrote:

 

Hi Dr. Sagiv,

 

Generally, these points are not used. The one time we tried it on a student

volunteer - she had a " panda eye " for months. That was just one point, and

the teacher did the needling. Bummer . . .

 

> Hi Lynn,

>

> >>welcome, sagiv, and 1 non tcm question, what does sagiv mean? thx,

lynn<<

>

> Thanks for your greetings.

> Sagiv means Mighty... and the next question someone might asks: " did it

> influence your life? " - it might if I was a small guy (in cm/inches) or a

> stupid one :-) ,and than you have " to fight your way in life " or a better

> solution - change your name accordingly.

> Let me take this opportunity and pose/ask a question to you and others in

> the list: " In animals I am using acupuncture points around the eyes (BL-01,

> BL-02, ST-01, GB-01, GB-14 etc) and the insertion is done very deep, how

do

> you feel about acupuncturing in humans in these " kind-of-delicate " areas?

> is it done?

--

Regards,

 

Pete

http://www.pete-theisen.com/

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Sagiv & Tom-

 

I also needle BL 1 (usually for insomnia) about 1 cun deep and haven't had any

problems.

In school we all had to practice needling that point, and at least in my class,

there were no

black eyes. While many people feel somewhat anxious about having that point

needled,

they usually find that it's effect is quite relaxing.

 

Fiamma

 

Chinese Medicine , " Tom Verhaeghe "

<tom.verhaeghe wrote:

>

> I needle Jingming BL1 at least one time per week. I have had one case of

> panda eye since, but I always inform my patients before I start. I tell them

> that Jingming is sometimes the best point to use with certain conditions.

> Sometimes there is no other point to replace it. I always make sure to press

> the point firmly after removing the needle. I needle it 1 cun deep. I know

> there are doctors who needle it deeper, but I haven't found that necessary.

>

> Julian Scott has a nice little book on the treatment of eye diseases, in it

> there are many extra points around the eye one can needle. I think both

> acupuncture and herbs can be very efficacious in the treatment of eye

> problems.

>

> Happy New Year!

>

> Tom.

>

> Acupunctuurpraktijk Tom Verhaeghe

> Stationsplein 59

> B-8770 Ingelmunster

> 051 699 005

> tom.verhaeghe

> www.chinese-geneeskunde.be

>

>

>

> ----

>

> Pete Theisen

> 31/12/2006 5:15:09

> Chinese Medicine

> Re: New member

>

> On Saturday 30 December 2006 05:32, Ben-Yakir wrote:

>

> Hi Dr. Sagiv,

>

> Generally, these points are not used. The one time we tried it on a student

> volunteer - she had a " panda eye " for months. That was just one point, and

> the teacher did the needling. Bummer . . .

>

> > Hi Lynn,

> >

> > >>welcome, sagiv, and 1 non tcm question, what does sagiv mean? thx,

> lynn<<

> >

> > Thanks for your greetings.

> > Sagiv means Mighty... and the next question someone might asks: " did it

> > influence your life? " - it might if I was a small guy (in cm/inches) or a

> > stupid one :-) ,and than you have " to fight your way in life " or a better

> > solution - change your name accordingly.

> > Let me take this opportunity and pose/ask a question to you and others in

> > the list: " In animals I am using acupuncture points around the eyes (BL-01,

> > BL-02, ST-01, GB-01, GB-14 etc) and the insertion is done very deep, how

> do

> > you feel about acupuncturing in humans in these " kind-of-delicate " areas?

> > is it done?

> --

> Regards,

>

> Pete

> http://www.pete-theisen.com/

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Tom, Pete, Fiamma thanks for your great in-puts.

I cherish your information tremendously.

Three times in my professional life I used ST-01 combined with GB-20

(electroacupuncture) for what we call in vet medicine " cortical

blindness/intra-cranial blindness " (I am not sure how you name it in human

medicine) due to hit-by-car situations in dogs = severe head injuries.

3 dogs out of three cases regain complete vision within 24 hrs; these dogs lost

their vision between 10-15 days before presentation, and after they diagnosed &

treated by conventional vet teams, that at the end of the therapy concluded: " the

animal will stay blind for the rest of its life " .

In all 3 cases the needles were inserted till they hit bone! (you might say -

deep as the deep blue ocean).

Apparently - I am hitting on sphenopalatine ganglion(ST-01) and otic

ganglion(GB-20), both parasympathetic ganglions, well connected to brain blood

vessels (ant/mid/post cerebral arteries), and I am apparently causing dilatation

of the blood vessels, and allow blood to flow across blood clots (Blood

Stagnation).

Did any of you treated people that had stroke and used these points?

Do we have more in-puts on the subject of acupuncture points around the eyes and

some connection to stroke/head blood stagnation...?

Happy New Year,

Sagiv.

 

 

Dr. Sagiv Ben-Yakir

BSC DVM(in honor) MRCVS CVA(IVAS)

benyakir

 

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fiammasita

Chinese Medicine

Sunday, December 31, 2006 4:39 PM

Re: New member

 

 

Hi Sagiv & Tom-

 

I also needle BL 1 (usually for insomnia) about 1 cun deep and haven't had any

problems.

In school we all had to practice needling that point, and at least in my

class, there were no

black eyes. While many people feel somewhat anxious about having that point

needled,

they usually find that it's effect is quite relaxing.

 

Fiamma

 

Chinese Medicine , " Tom Verhaeghe "

<tom.verhaeghe wrote:

>

> I needle Jingming BL1 at least one time per week. I have had one case of

> panda eye since, but I always inform my patients before I start. I tell them

> that Jingming is sometimes the best point to use with certain conditions.

> Sometimes there is no other point to replace it. I always make sure to press

> the point firmly after removing the needle. I needle it 1 cun deep. I know

> there are doctors who needle it deeper, but I haven't found that necessary.

>

> Julian Scott has a nice little book on the treatment of eye diseases, in it

> there are many extra points around the eye one can needle. I think both

> acupuncture and herbs can be very efficacious in the treatment of eye

> problems.

>

> Happy New Year!

>

> Tom.

>

> Acupunctuurpraktijk Tom Verhaeghe

> Stationsplein 59

> B-8770 Ingelmunster

> 051 699 005

> tom.verhaeghe

> www.chinese-geneeskunde.be

>

>

>

> ----

>

> Pete Theisen

> 31/12/2006 5:15:09

> Chinese Medicine

> Re: New member

>

> On Saturday 30 December 2006 05:32, Ben-Yakir wrote:

>

> Hi Dr. Sagiv,

>

> Generally, these points are not used. The one time we tried it on a student

> volunteer - she had a " panda eye " for months. That was just one point, and

> the teacher did the needling. Bummer . . .

>

> > Hi Lynn,

> >

> > >>welcome, sagiv, and 1 non tcm question, what does sagiv mean? thx,

> lynn<<

> >

> > Thanks for your greetings.

> > Sagiv means Mighty... and the next question someone might asks: " did it

> > influence your life? " - it might if I was a small guy (in cm/inches) or a

> > stupid one :-) ,and than you have " to fight your way in life " or a better

> > solution - change your name accordingly.

> > Let me take this opportunity and pose/ask a question to you and others in

> > the list: " In animals I am using acupuncture points around the eyes (BL-01,

> > BL-02, ST-01, GB-01, GB-14 etc) and the insertion is done very deep, how

> do

> > you feel about acupuncturing in humans in these " kind-of-delicate " areas?

> > is it done?

> --

> Regards,

>

> Pete

> http://www.pete-theisen.com/

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Coconut oil reduces triglycerides, reduces LDL cholesterol because

none is required to transport it, and increased HDL. Good stuff!

 

Your question begs one back -- why do you think cholesterol is

harmful? Nothing in the documentation supports anything other than it

being a natural function. Cholesterol only oxidizes when you're

oxidizing, and plaque is made primarily of oxidized polyunsaturated

and unsaturated oil you eat. The key is more dietary antioxidants and

less plant oils, not cholesterol control.

 

See the cholesterol myths:

http://www.ravnskov.nu

 

 

Bonnie.

 

> can anyone tell me whats good for high triglcerides that i can take

> along with the medication that i take it not working... im in the

high

> 400's some one told me about guggul?? any answers thanks ...

[Guest guest]

You're most welcome hon.

All the best,

Doc

 

Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc

 

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'Dr. Ian Shillington'

Friday, February 09, 2007 9:13 PM

RE: new member

 

Thank you

 

Elizabeth

 

 

Dr. Ian Shillington [docshillington] Thursday, February 08, 2007 1:29 PMRe: new member

Dear Elizabeth,

Your FREE CD will leave for you today.

All the best,

Doc

 

Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc

 

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'Dr. Ian Shillington'

Tuesday, February 06, 2007 10:00 PM

RE: new member

 

I got a link when I joined this group and I thought that was the free CD so I thought you already had my email address, but I think what you are looking for is my personal address. When I opened that link it was a Word document and it had some good information in it so that was when I realized what you were needing. This is my snail mail address.

 

Dr. Ian Shillington [docshillington] Monday, February 05, 2007 2:50 PMRe: new member

 

Getting over colds is quite easy actually.

And never getting them ever again is also well within reach of most of us.

I haven't had a cold or flu in over 12 years. Just don't get 'em anymore.

Best,

Doc

PS. You still didn't send me your snail mail address so I could have the office fire off that FREE CD to you.

:-)

Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc

 

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'Dr. Ian Shillington'

Friday, February 02, 2007 1:24 AM

RE: new member

 

Wonderful. Sorry for the delay, but my emails got backed up as I was having difficulty sending/receiving them. I'm very excited to have found a group that I can use to further my knowledge of natural "organic" healing products. I've made a few changes and have already noticed some excellent results. I've lost 5 pounds and am feeling a little bit better. I'm also excited to know that I will be conversing with a naturopath an alternative physician and not the standard drugs/surgery only ones. Currenly I'm nursing a cold and unfortunately it left me with no options where I had to see my "doctor" and she prescribed me an antibiotic and cough syrup with codeine to take. Right now I don't have a better alternative so I must get over my cold and then continue my improvement process.

 

 

Elizabeth

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group tshell.

 

congrats on the herb bed. I'm looking forward to making one of me own in

another year or so after I move.

 

Just jump in with any questions you might have and have fun!

 

K

 

 

On 4/21/07, tshell1984 <tshell1984 wrote:

>

> Hi, I'm new to the group and excited to be here. I live in NE Louisiana

> and have just planted my first herb bed, YEAH! I'd like to learn how to

> use them more in foods, bath oils, etc. Looking forward to chatting

> with you.

>

>

>

 

 

 

--

Cheers!

Kathleen Petrides

The Woobey Queen

Http://www.woobeyworld.com

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Josephine, Welcome to the group! I think that it is great that are able to

heal your animals as well. I know many who use alternatives for themselves but

forget about their " bestfriends " . We have 5 dogs...how many do you have?

 

Dedie

 

 

 

jlkinkona <jlkinkona wrote:

Hello group,

I am a new member who uses alternative ways of healing myself and my

dogs almost all of the time. I am looking forward to learning more from

the members on this forum. Its nice being among like minded people

[Guest guest]

I am just getting into making soap. I have read 2 books from the

Public Library. I want to learn how to make Goat Soap. My son and his

wife gave me a bar and I want to start making my own. Any suggestion

will be welcome! Ms Janet

 

Hi Janet and welcome to the group. Although this isn't primarily a soaper's

group, it's one of the most informative and congenial groups I've ever

found. Discussions touch all kinds of things, so keep an open mind and a

grain of salt in your pocket - especially when I spout off! I am a

soapmaker - I like to think a master soapmaker - and I use goat milk and

other milk fats quite a bit. So feel free to ask any questions you like.

Do you have goats? It would be great to make soap from fresh milk straight

from the goat.

 

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[Guest guest]

No I don't have goats but there are people who live close who do. How long have

you been making soap? I am suppose to go see a woman in a few weeks who does

make goat soap. I was wondering do you make different types of soap using

different oils.

Have not found many soaps using goat milk. But I am still looking.

 

JANET BREWER

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David Lambert

Thursday, May 24, 2007 9:12 PM

RE: New member

 

 

I am just getting into making soap. I have read 2 books from the

Public Library. I want to learn how to make Goat Soap. My son and his

wife gave me a bar and I want to start making my own. Any suggestion

will be welcome! Ms Janet

 

Hi Janet and welcome to the group. Although this isn't primarily a soaper's

group, it's one of the most informative and congenial groups I've ever

found. Discussions touch all kinds of things, so keep an open mind and a

grain of salt in your pocket - especially when I spout off! I am a

soapmaker - I like to think a master soapmaker - and I use goat milk and

other milk fats quite a bit. So feel free to ask any questions you like.

Do you have goats? It would be great to make soap from fresh milk straight

from the goat.

 

_____

 

HYPERLINK

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[Guest guest]

<<I am just getting into making soap. I have read 2

books from the Public Library. I want to learn how to

make Goat Soap. My son and his wife gave me a bar and

I want to start making my own. Any suggestion

will be welcome! Ms Janet>>

 

Hello, Janet! The main thing with making milk soaps

is to keep everything very cool. Most people put their

goat milk soap into the refrigerator after pouring

into the mold, and some even put it into the freezer.

Otherwise, the milk will burn, turn the soap yellowish

brown, and smell unpleasant (like ammonia).

 

You might want to practice with making a few batches

of non-milk soap to get the hang of soapmaking before

attempting to make soap with milk.

 

Here's a URL for an easy way to make goat milk soap:

 

www.oregontrailsoaps.com/SuzNFIGMSoap.html

 

I will be making some goat milk soap myself this

weekend I've been using home made soap for several

years and have been making it myself for a couple of

years and would never go back to store bought soap,

ever.

 

This is a great list for the soapmaker, as

herb-infused oils and essential oils lend themselves

to making wonderful healing soaps.

 

 

Judy in Northern Calif

T.S. GARP (AX OAJ OAC S-NAC O-NJC CL3-R CL3-H CL2-F CGC HOF), MIA-WALKEE (CBX),

CAMEO (CL1-F LDX), STREAK (S-BSA S-BJA CL1-855 points)

" The Pomeranian...the little dog that thinks it can "

[Guest guest]

No I don't have goats but there are people who live close who do. How long

have you been making soap? I am suppose to go see a woman in a few weeks who

does make goat soap. I was wondering do you make different types of soap

using different oils.

Have not found many soaps using goat milk. But I am still looking. ¶

 

 

 

[Dave]: I've been making soap for nearly five years now. You'll like it.

It's fun, and even your first attempts will probably produce a better soap

than anything you've ever used. As far as different oils, there are many,

but the Big Four for soaps made without animal fat are olive, castor,

coconut and palm oils. Coconut and palm oils are hard oils (at room temp)

which stabilize the soap and make it hard. Coconut oil produces abundant

lather in any kind of water, and castor oil adds to the lather, too. Olive

oil is wonderful for the skin. Castile soap is made from 100% olive oil.

If you read the labels on " natural " soaps, you'll discover that in many

cases the actual soap is made from coconut and/or palm oils alone, with

herbs or essential oils added. This is the cheapest way to produce soap,

and if you use a good selection of oils it's why you can do better at home.

Milk soaps use the milkfat to create a wonderfully moisturizing bar. There

are several ways you can do it. Mixing the milk directly with the lye will

burn and curdle the milk and carmelize the sugars, which produces a tan

soap. The horrible smell created by this process does not last, and the

soap is very mild. OMH (oatmeal, milk & honey) soaps are very popular and

wonderful to use.

 

 

 

Learn the hazards and precautions necessary for working with lye. Some

books would have you take so many safety measures , you'd think you were

handling nuclear waste. I think that just scares people off. Use common

sense. You don't wear a suit of armor when you mow the lawn, just because

you could potentially cut off a toe if you stuck your foot underneath the

machine. Lye can burn you, and it will irritate the heck out of your

nasal passages if you happen to get a snootful of the fumes. Otherwise you

could be handling table salt. I think the best precaution is to carefully

think through the actual motions you will make, so that you know ahead of

time where you will set things down, where they will be when you pick them

up, what the actual motions you'll be making will be. Since everyone's

kitchen is different, it's difficult to give more than general guidelines.

Mine is like a postage-stamp, I have very little counter space, and so when

I make soap I have to clear the decks and know where everything is. Having

to say, run to the next room to grab your mold because you didn't set things

up ahead of time, can spoil the nice smooth process, for sure.

 

 

 

Soapmaking is easy, fun and addictive. You've been warned.

 

 

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[Guest guest]

I tried to go to the URL but it does not there

maybe the address is wrong

 

JANET BREWER

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Agility Pom

Friday, May 25, 2007 12:41 AM

Re: New Member

 

 

<<I am just getting into making soap. I have read 2

books from the Public Library. I want to learn how to

make Goat Soap. My son and his wife gave me a bar and

I want to start making my own. Any suggestion

will be welcome! Ms Janet>>

 

Hello, Janet! The main thing with making milk soaps

is to keep everything very cool. Most people put their

goat milk soap into the refrigerator after pouring

into the mold, and some even put it into the freezer.

Otherwise, the milk will burn, turn the soap yellowish

brown, and smell unpleasant (like ammonia).

 

You might want to practice with making a few batches

of non-milk soap to get the hang of soapmaking before

attempting to make soap with milk.

 

Here's a URL for an easy way to make goat milk soap:

 

www.oregontrailsoaps.com/SuzNFIGMSoap.html

 

I will be making some goat milk soap myself this

weekend I've been using home made soap for several

years and have been making it myself for a couple of

years and would never go back to store bought soap,

ever.

 

This is a great list for the soapmaker, as

herb-infused oils and essential oils lend themselves

to making wonderful healing soaps.

 

Judy in Northern Calif

T.S. GARP (AX OAJ OAC S-NAC O-NJC CL3-R CL3-H CL2-F CGC HOF), MIA-WALKEE

(CBX), CAMEO (CL1-F LDX), STREAK (S-BSA S-BJA CL1-855 points)

" The Pomeranian...the little dog that thinks it can "

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Making milk soap is tricky. I would recommend you start out with making a

simple recipe and once you have a very good grasp of a lot of the possible

problems you can run into when making soap, then try a milk soap. I teach

soap making classes thru the adult education of a local school district.

Too bad you aren't closer, there's a class scheduled for this coming Tues.

evening

You can contact me off list any time with any questions you might have.

What books did you read ? There are some good ones and some that I wouldn't

recommend. I can also give you the names of a few soap making lists that

are very 'beginner friendly'

 

Paula Coon

www.farmfreshsoapsandcandles.com

farmfresahsoapsandcandles

 

I am just getting into making soap. I have read 2 books from the

Public Library. I want to learn how to make Goat Soap. My son and his

wife gave me a bar and I want to start making my own. Any suggestion

will be welcome! Ms Janet

[Guest guest]

Making milk soap is tricky. I would recommend you start out with making a

simple recipe and once you have a very good grasp of a lot of the possible

problems you can run into when making soap, then try a milk soap. I teach

soap making classes thru the adult education of a local school district. ¶

 

[Dave]: I agree that it's best to make a few practice batches using cheap

ingredients to get a handle on the process. I usually recommend that

newbies teaching themselves begin with Crisco as an ingredient. It is

cheap, easily available, and it makes fine soap. Who knows? You may not

like soapmaking. If that's the case, it would be a shame to have spent a

bunch of money on exotic ingredients.

 

I disagree about milk soap being difficult to make. Milk is different than

water, and if you mix it with lye it seems to get nasty. Once you're used

to how this handles, it's no big deal. You can add your milk later in the

process, and you can even use powdered or condensed milk. I like to mix my

milk directly with the lye, because the carmelized sugars add some

je-ne-sais-quoi to the aroma of the finished product.

 

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Try this:

 

http://www.oregontrailsoaps.com/SuzNFIGMSoap.html

 

, " Janet Brewer " <janetbbb

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> I tried to go to the URL but it does not there

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> JANET BREWER

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Hi David,

 

Ive not had a problem making milk soaps - but one of the things that really

helps, is to mix the milk powder up, and then freeze it so it contains crystals

- before adding it to the lye. And the same for milk that is already liquid.

 

The chemical reaction is then slowed down, and the milk fats dont get scorched.

 

Mary

Well, Naturally

 

 

 

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David Lambert

Friday, May 25, 2007 6:53 PM

RE: RE: New member

 

 

Making milk soap is tricky. I would recommend you start out with making a

simple recipe and once you have a very good grasp of a lot of the possible

problems you can run into when making soap, then try a milk soap. I teach

soap making classes thru the adult education of a local school district. ¶

 

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Thanks it worked this time!!!!!!!!

JANET BREWER

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Re: New Member

 

 

Try this:

 

http://www.oregontrailsoaps.com/SuzNFIGMSoap.html

 

, " Janet Brewer " <janetbbb

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[Guest guest]

luckyalexis6384 wrote something about:

> Hello,

> I am a new member

> Would like to know more about saint John's wart

> Is it really safe

> how long do you have to take it before it begins to work

 

Generally safe and effective - far fewer side effects than conventional

anti-depressants. Effective for mild-moderate depression, and some claim

even for major (but I don't believe that). Just watch your drug

interactions (easily found by searching).

 

I'm not sure how long it takes to work /well/. Technically it works

straight away, but feeling better for it is another story.

 

It may sound odd, and I ignored the same advice a very long time ago,

but if you have any noticeably gut issues at all, then it might pay to

look into dealing with that primarily. It can be surprising when

depression eases rapidly through dietary change.

 

cheers,

Russ.

[Guest guest]

Caution! You'll be bombarded with sellers of everything. Your foot

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<chabby45 wrote:

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> Hi everyone! I just located this forum and am looking forward to

> reading all the info here. I do have a question...I just became a

> certified Reflexologist this past year and I am now looking to become

> certied in herbology or aromatherapy. Can anyone suggest a website that

> offers online courses?

>

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Hi, I'm new here too and looking forward to sharing remedies and ideas. I live

in North TX and have my own health & amp; wellness website, where I write

articles on those topics, plus healthy weight loss, wellness travel and some

other things.

 

I had a beautiful herb garden when we lived in southern Oregon and made many of

my own herbal remedies but haven't started any type of garden since we moved to

Texas.

 

I've been using essential oils as natural remedies for several years for all

sorts of things and have had great success with them. I especially like lavender

oil for sleep.

 

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