Guest guest Report post Posted July 18, 2008 What is NWO? , Rebecca Price <raprice49 wrote: > > > Hi, Judy and all. Judy, I have friends who are shamans and have friends who have benefitted from shamanic ministrations and know it to be a mysterious and interesting healing form that acts directly on the spirit, which of course we all are. I for one would like to hear more from you on it. I long ago read the books about Lakota Shaman, Black Elk. It seems these shamans have a high cure rate--way higher than any medical practices, so I know there is a lot to it. I've undertaken a sweat ceremony by a shaman in the past, but never considered it as having real healing possibility for my current challenge. I'd be happy to be made wrong. > > I haven't really introduced myself, either. I am an artist-illustrator-book designer by trade (www.rebeccaprice.com). I come by my interest in this list in an effort to deal with some direct effects of NWO toxins on my respiratory system. I've always been a 'health nut', but due to my condition, have researched all manner of healing systems in earnest in the last 8 years. I've always been holistic-alternative in my approach to health with very good results and enjoyed excellent health for most of my life...until lately. In 2000, I was dx'd with a rare lung disorder described as being genetic-hereditary in origin. Yeah, OK. But it still doesn't mean it had to be kicked into activity--I think I have airborne toxins to thank for that, and the NWO guys to thank for the toxins. After reading all about how these wicked scientists, believing the human herd needed steep culling, have created designer viri/antigens that can barely be detected, much less cured, I'm thinking I'm going the way of the SARS-AIDS-EBOLA victims if I don't act fast. > > To that end, I have thrown every healing system there is at it, but the damage was done before I knew what was happening and is being quite stubborn about coming 'undone': neither conventional medicine nor alternative medicine has made much of an impact on it. Conventional medicine has nothing but ineffective, hugely expensive treatments that do little, or transplant, which kills the patient more than half the time while only gaining a few years. If you can get on the list for lungs at all, which you rarely can with this diagnosis. Just as frightened as a cancer patient, I followed pulmonologist > prescriptions to the point that I lost job, home, sanity and > functionality--then said, enough! Frankly, I wasn't interested in the whole scenario and left all that diseases' alleged doctors and 'support groups', which was crowded with those too fearful to get out from under standard AMA compliance medicine, and to my great sorrow, dropping lke flies. (Many of the friends I made in my year in the 'support group' died). I de-joined that and signed up on Cure-zone. Much more encouraging. > > Although various practices like yogic breath exercises, optimum diet, spiritual 'housecleaning' have all helped in their ways, one good whiff of strong chemicals or other toxic agents and it's EMS for me. (Yes, even using EFT, Bach's remedies and all the other usual suspects. Like I said, they eliviate and lessen my dependence on rescue drugs, but they don't fully help the problem. I've done far better than most with it, but I want no less than full cure, and to share it with those currently suffering the same illness. It's a useless waste of human time on precious earth. I'm trying the clay cure, mushroom cure and going 'alkaline', yet here I am still huffing for breath. > > Which at last brings me to the latest in health breakthrough-paradigms, brought to us by the work of Bruce Lipton, Gregg Braden, et al. Now this stuff is what I could finally get excited about. Change your reality; change your very dna! THAT's what is needed, here! I ran across Dr. Richard Bartlett, with his 'Matrix Energetics'. He is using a kind of hands-on time-dimension manipulation to 'shift' his patient to a new health reality. I got his book and I'm still trying to learn about this, and it apparently is going to take going to the seminar to even start to grasp the process, much less master it. I don't mind sharing that not quite owning its validity licks at my thoughts, even while fervently wishing to believe in it. > > Now for my big question: who here has any real information-experience with this new brand of healing? What can you share about it? > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > _______________ > Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with . > http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Ref\ resh_messenger_video_072008 > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 18, 2008 Sorry. That's one possible explanation. I shouldn't jump into other people's discussions. Hugh jlkinkona <josephine Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:29:42 PM Re: New Member Huh? is that another made up disease?-- In , Hugh Ramsdell<hughman73@. ..> wrote:>> New World Order?> > > > > jlkinkona <josephine@. ..>>> > What is NWO? > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 18, 2008 Evidently this group is relatively unaware of the machinations of the folks running things behind the scenes: Agenda 21, 'New World Order', Chemtrails, etc. These are all quite verifiable, real, significantly impacting all our lives and suggest to those of you not familiar with it that you do some serious looking into these terms. From: josephineDate: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 05:29:42 +0000 Re: New Member Huh? is that another made up disease? -- In , Hugh Ramsdell <hughman73 wrote: > > New World Order? > > > > > jlkinkona <josephine > > > What is NWO? > Time for vacation? WIN what you need. Enter Now! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 18, 2008 By way of explaining another term I used: EFT. EFT stands for 'Emotional Freedom Technique" and is a form of energy work that uses tapping accupressure/accupuncture/energy points to reduce emotional stress and diffuse/change habitual emotion-backed responses. This often has great healing effects. Here is the official website: http://www.emofree.com/Archives.aspx The technique is endorsed by the likes of Deepok Chopra and Bruce Lipton. I've found it quite helpful; sometimes downright miraculous in its effects for such a simple technique. From: josephineDate: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:05:33 +0000 Re: New Member No, its okay. That was a good guess. I just wish people would tell us what those abbreviations mean instead of having us guess. , Hugh Ramsdell <hughman73 wrote: > > Sorry. That's one possible explanation. I shouldn't jump into other people's discussions. > Hugh > > Time for vacation? WIN what you need. Enter Now! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 18, 2008 Yes, I use it almost daily. Rebecca Price <raprice49health_and_healing Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:50:37 PMRE: Re: New Member By way of explaining another term I used: EFT. EFT stands for 'Emotional Freedom Technique" and is a form of energy work that uses tapping accupressure/ accupuncture/ energy points to reduce emotional stress and diffuse/change habitual emotion-backed responses. This often has great healing effects. Here is the official website: http://www.emofree. com/Archives. aspx The technique is endorsed by the likes of Deepok Chopra and Bruce Lipton. I've found it quite helpful; sometimes downright miraculous in its effects for such a simple technique. josephine (AT) poidogs (DOT) comFri, 18 Jul 2008 06:05:33 +0000[Health_and_ Healing] Re: New Member No, its okay. That was a good guess. I just wish people would tell uswhat those abbreviations mean instead of having us guess. , Hugh Ramsdell<hughman73@. ..> wrote:>> Sorry. That's one possible explanation. I shouldn't jump into otherpeople's discussions.> Hugh> > Time for vacation? WIN what you need. Enter Now! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 18, 2008 www.emofree.com There is a free 87 page manual which will get you started at any rate. "Emotional Freedom Techniques" Hugh kristen cook <kristen.cook Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 3:17:23 AMRe: Re: New Member WHAT IS IT AND WHERE DO I GET IT???--- On Fri, 7/18/08, Hugh Ramsdell <hughman73 > wrote:> Hugh Ramsdell <hughman73 >> Re: [Health_and_ Healing] Re: New Member> > Friday, July 18, 2008, 3:05 AM> Yes, I use it almost daily.> > > > > Rebecca Price <raprice49 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>> health_and_healing> Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:50:37 PM> RE: [Health_and_ Healing] Re: New Member> > > By way of explaining another term I used: EFT. EFT> stands for 'Emotional Freedom Technique" and is a> form of energy work that uses tapping accupressure/> accupuncture/ energy points to reduce emotional stress and> diffuse/change habitual emotion-backed responses. This> often has great healing effects. > > Here is the official website: http://www.emofree.> com/Archives. aspx The technique is endorsed by the> likes of Deepok Chopra and Bruce Lipton. I've found> it quite helpful; sometimes downright miraculous in its> effects for such a simple technique.> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > josephine (AT) poidogs (DOT) com> Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:05:33 +0000> [Health_and_ Healing] Re: New Member> > > No, its okay. That was a good guess. I just wish people> would tell us> what those abbreviations mean instead of having us guess. > > , Hugh Ramsdell> <hughman73@. ..> wrote:> >> > Sorry. That's one possible explanation. I> shouldn't jump into other> people's discussions.> > Hugh> > > >> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Time for vacation? WIN what you need. Enter Now! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 18, 2008 > Here is the official website: http://www.emofree.To: From: kristen.cookDate: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 03:17:23 -0700Re: Re: New Member WHAT IS IT AND WHERE DO I GET IT??? --- On Fri, 7/18/08, Hugh Ramsdell <hughman73 > wrote: > Hugh Ramsdell <hughman73 > > Re: Re: New Member > > Friday, July 18, 2008, 3:05 AM > Yes, I use it almost daily. > > > > > Rebecca Price <raprice49 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> > health_and_healing > Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:50:37 PM > RE: Re: New Member > > > By way of explaining another term I used: EFT. EFT > stands for 'Emotional Freedom Technique" and is a > form of energy work that uses tapping accupressure/ > accupuncture/ energy points to reduce emotional stress and > diffuse/change habitual emotion-backed responses. This > often has great healing effects. > > Here is the official website: http://www.emofree. > com/Archives. aspx The technique is endorsed by the > likes of Deepok Chopra and Bruce Lipton. I've found > it quite helpful; sometimes downright miraculous in its > effects for such a simple technique. > > > ________________________________ > > josephine (AT) poidogs (DOT) com > Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:05:33 +0000 > [Health_and_ Healing] Re: New Member > > > No, its okay. That was a good guess. I just wish people > would tell us > what those abbreviations mean instead of having us guess. > > , Hugh Ramsdell > <hughman73@. ..> wrote: > > > > Sorry. That's one possible explanation. I > shouldn't jump into other > people's discussions. > > Hugh > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > Time for vacation? WIN what you need. Enter Now! Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with . Get started. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 18, 2008 For purposes of explaining how EFT is relevant to the concerns of those in this group, I've pasted an archived artilce from the EFT website, here:How to find the emotion that may be causing the pain Note: This article assumes you have a working knowledge of EFT. Newcomers can still learn from it but are advised to get our Free EFT Get Started Package or our Affordable DVDs for a more complete understanding. For more, read our EFT Info and Disclaimer Document Hi Everyone, Seasoned EFT'ers frequently find that emotions and physical ailments are linked. They may debate, however, over the best ways to find the emotions that may reside behind the pains. Chip Engelmann gives his views on this topic and says, "The truth is, people don’t really come to me for help with a past trauma. They don’t think about that trauma. That trauma is packed away tightly in their back closet so they can function today. Clients come to me with problems and pains that have manifested in their lives today. And as we open the closet to make a repair, the trauma falls out, ready to finally be resolved." Hugs, Gary By Chip Engelmann, MA CNC Lately, more and more people have been asking me how I know the emotional cause behind a person’s physical pain. After all, if we are to eliminate a physical pain using EFT, then it would help to pinpoint the emotional cause. The process of finding the emotional source is fairly simple, but takes practice. First, we have to assume that pain has a purpose beyond creating misery. Surely we understand that the pain we feel when we put our hand into a flame is what stimulates us to move our hand out of the flame. In that case, pain is a stimulus to take action to avoid harm. Now, if we move our hand two feet above the flame and leave it there, eventually that becomes painful too, and we remove our hand. But the stimulus for removing our hand was more about addressing the pain and less about the possible damage. In fact, the further we are from the cause of a pain, the less likely we will see the actual cause of the pain, and the more likely we will react only to the pain rather than to its cause. A headache may develop in response to an emotion triggered hours before. Arthritis pain may stem from an emotional reaction that began decades ago. It is easy to see how the cause of a pain can be overlooked. And more often than not, we do overlook it. Frankly, stopping the pain is as far as we care to go. For the purpose of healing, however, addressing only the pain is about as effective as covering the oil light on your car with duct tape when it starts to flash. Maybe you won’t be annoyed by the light anymore, but you also won’t stop your engine from seizing and totaling your car. But for better or for worse, pain usually won’t go away permanently until we get the message that it is trying to tell us. Luckily, we’re not alone in our search for the emotional causes of physical pain and illness. Research has established certain physiological connections between emotion and illness. Anger has been shown to affect the liver. When we are angry, we create toxins that our body must deal with. In fact, a single breath of an angry man produces enough toxins to kill a Guinea pig. The organ that is responsible for clearing toxins from the body is the liver. The drug of choice for an angry person is alcohol. Long-term exposure to alcohol or anger puts excess stress on the liver. Sad people tend to crave carbohydrates, especially sweets. Long-term exposure to a high-carbohydrate diet results in insulin resistance and diabetes. Sadness is known to affect the pancreas, which produces insulin. Another approach we can use to detect the emotional causes of pain is to look at the symbolism of the different parts of the body. The hands grip, so a pain in the hand is generally a problem with holding onto something. Likewise, the intestines are the part of the body that eliminates waste. So if we have a problem with the intestines, it too is usually a problem of holding onto an emotion. However, the intestines are deeper in the body than the hand, so they would represent holding onto a deeper emotion. For another example, our feet are used to move us through our world, so a pain in the foot would be associated with a fear of moving forward. Lastly, we can look for clues about the body in sayings from the past. “That really galls me,” is an expression revealing that slow-burning anger affects the gall bladder. “You expect me to swallow that?” is a reaction toward someone you feel is “feeding you” a lie, which affects the throat. A person who is constantly criticizing is “riding you.” If they do it enough, you get angry and yell, “Get off my back!” That anger is stored in the upper back. A person who doesn’t get what you are trying to tell them is a “pain in the neck.” What we are seeing here is that the location of a pain can tell us a lot about the emotional circumstance that caused the pain in the first place. Perhaps the best roadmap to the emotional roots of physical pain and illness is a book by Louise Hay, Heal Your Body. I constantly use this seven-dollar book as a springboard to solve emotional puzzles. Louise Hay looks at all the body parts and a variety of major diseases, and gives us the emotional counterpart to each. Her insights may not cover every situation, but I’ve always found them to be in the ballpark. So you ask, “How can I figure out what’s behind my pain?” The first step is to use Louise Hay’s book and look up the location of the pain. Now look at which side of the body it is located on. Typically, a pain on the left side of the body will have to do with a relationship, and pain on the right side of the body has to do with finances, career, etc. I say typically, because it’s flipped in a very small percentage of people: the right side will represent relationships and the left side financial matters. Sometimes pain is located in more than one part of the body. The two pains may not be related, but more often they are related. One woman I know complained of a pain in her left hand. Louise Hay would say that this pain represents holding onto an issue. Since it is on the left side, we can assume it has to do with a relationship. She also complained of a pain that starts in her neck (Hay says: failure to see the other side of an issue), and moves to her jaw (anger) and throat (anger). I also saw this woman rubbing her left knee (stubbornness and inflexibility). Let’s consult the old sayings. Remember, the throat is about swallowing a lie, and you clench your jaw to resolutely move forward. Now let’s put it all together. What we are looking at is a breach of trust in a relationship where the partner did something to break that trust - something pretty bad. The woman stubbornly refuses to hear the other side of the story because there simply is no excuse for what happened. Any excuse, therefore, would be something she could not swallow. She holds onto this anger, and it is triggered on a regular basis. Since her emotion is manifesting in several locations, we might assume that the emotions behind the event or series of events are pretty powerful. This description could represent something that happened in a past relationship, like infidelity. Or it could be a childhood trauma. Sexual assault is a possibility. A medical diagnosis is often helpful. If a pain is due to arthritis, we can add the emotion of resentment to the mix. Arthritis in the knee would indicate an incident in which the person was both resentful and stubborn. Inflammation would add anger to the mix. If your hand was swollen with arthritis, you might be holding onto an incident that makes you angry and resentful. Cancer would indicate that something was eating away at you. Often cancer is associated with anger, but it can also stem from grief, as in the loss of a loved one. The location of the cancer is a good clue. Pancreatic cancer might indicate grief, while liver cancer might point to anger. However, pancreatic cancer could also indicate anger associated with sadness, as in the case where a best friend ran off with a spouse. While it is possible to come pretty close to detecting an emotional cause just by analyzing physical symptoms, listening to what people say and noticing how they say it is invaluable. People will express the emotion that they are resonating with. You will hear it in their voice and see it in their face and body language. Last but not least, trust your intuition. When you start looking for the source of a physical pain, check with your intuition to see if the direction you are going “feels right.” If not, take another tack. It’s a good idea to work with a partner or practitioner who might have insight in this area. As with all things emotional, it is often easier to read someone else than yourself, and for someone else to read you than for you to figure out yourself. EFT can be used throughout this process. If you don’t know the cause of a pain, tap on the image of that pain and you’ll probably get a measure of relief. If you can guess at emotional causes, tap on those. But keep your intuition open, because a memory may stir, or a feeling that reminds you of an incident, and these are your true leads. Tap on them, and be specific and thorough. Once the anger is gone, you’ll find hurt. Once the hurt is gone, you’ll find guilt, and so on. You can see why, as a rule of thumb, traumatic events and “core issues” should be handled with the help of an EFT professional. The truth is, people don’t really come to me for help with a past trauma. They don’t think about that trauma. That trauma is packed away tightly in their back closet so they can function today. Clients come to me with problems and pains that have manifested in their lives today. And as we open the closet to make a repair, the trauma falls out, ready to finally be resolved. So can pain be your friend? When your pain reveals your emotions, it allows you to take care of yourself on a deeper level. After all, what are friends for? Chip Engelmann From: hughman73Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 04:20:05 -0700Re: Re: New Member www.emofree.com There is a free 87 page manual which will get you started at any rate. "Emotional Freedom Techniques" Hugh kristen cook <kristen.cook > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 3:17:23 AMRe: Re: New Member WHAT IS IT AND WHERE DO I GET IT???--- On Fri, 7/18/08, Hugh Ramsdell <hughman73 > wrote:> Hugh Ramsdell <hughman73 >> Re: [Health_and_ Healing] Re: New Member> > Friday, July 18, 2008, 3:05 AM> Yes, I use it almost daily.> > > > > Rebecca Price <raprice49 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>> health_and_healing> Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:50:37 PM> RE: [Health_and_ Healing] Re: New Member> > > By way of explaining another term I used: EFT. EFT> stands for 'Emotional Freedom Technique" and is a> form of energy work that uses tapping accupressure/> accupuncture/ energy points to reduce emotional stress and> diffuse/change habitual emotion-backed responses. This> often has great healing effects. > > Here is the official website: http://www.emofree.> com/Archives. aspx The technique is endorsed by the> likes of Deepok Chopra and Bruce Lipton. I've found> it quite helpful; sometimes downright miraculous in its> effects for such a simple technique.> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > josephine (AT) poidogs (DOT) com> Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:05:33 +0000> [Health_and_ Healing] Re: New Member> > > No, its okay. That was a good guess. I just wish people> would tell us> what those abbreviations mean instead of having us guess. > > , Hugh Ramsdell> <hughman73@. ..> wrote:> >> > Sorry. That's one possible explanation. I> shouldn't jump into other> people's discussions.> > Hugh> > > >> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Time for vacation? WIN what you need. Enter Now! Time for vacation? WIN what you need. Enter Now! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2010 I am new to the group but likely not new to all of you as I notice some of your names from other groups. I have Invasive Ductal Carcinoma, stage 4. I live on Vancouver Island. I am really bad with plants. If anyone here knows how I can identify oleander on the island or where I can find it, please let me know. I've only found 1 web page that says we have it here and it is the white oleander. Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2010 I would go to your local Nursery/Grower and have them give you a hands on Learning of the Plant. Ron On 4/24/2010 7:54 AM, miznoname44 wrote: I am new to the group but likely not new to all of you as I notice some of your names from other groups. I have Invasive Ductal Carcinoma, stage 4. I live on Vancouver Island. I am really bad with plants. If anyone here knows how I can identify oleander on the island or where I can find it, please let me know. I've only found 1 web page that says we have it here and it is the white oleander. Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2010 Welcome to the group.Frankly, I am not sure you can get an oleander plant in Canada. Oleander mostly thrives in warmer climates. You may want to check organic nurseries in your area or organic nurseries online. However, make sure that they have not been sprayed with pesticides.Another option is to buy the supplement from either http://www.sutherlaidiaopc.com or Rose Laurel OPC Plus from Utopia Silver . The only difference in the two is that Rose Laurel OPC Plus is 100% oleander and may be more effective when dealing with cancer. Additionally, by using coupon code LR001 you will receive a 15% discount if it is not on sale. If you should order $100 worth of products, you will receive a free bottle of colloidal silver which is a very important part of A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol . However, if you should order $100 worth of products, make sure and bring it to their attention, as this offer only applies to members of this forum.I would also strongly recommend that you follow A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol in its entirety. This protocol also contains other anti-cancer and immune strengthening supplements that are very important when dealing with cancer, together with lifestyle and diet recommendations. We also consider The Budwig Diet, which is included in the Protocol, to be imperative when addressing cancer. When healing from cancer (or any other disease) one must face it head on, using every bullet in one's arsenal and leaving no stone unturned.My very best to you,oleander soup , "miznoname44" <missnoname37 wrote:>> I am new to the group but likely not new to all of you as I notice some of your names from other groups. I have Invasive Ductal Carcinoma, stage 4. I live on Vancouver Island. I am really bad with plants. If anyone here knows how I can identify oleander on the island or where I can find it, please let me know. I've only found 1 web page that says we have it here and it is the white oleander. Thanks!> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
