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Greetings.

I too feel that it is a WindCold invasion - pulse was thin/thready, slippery

and very deep in Ki position. Tongue was sl. purple with thick white coating,

scalloped and sl. puffy. This patient is very overweight, is averse to cold

and feels colder than normal, has diagnosed hypertention and is on medication

for this - Atenolol. He is also taking Prednisone and Amoxicillin for the

Bell's Palsy (given to him by an ER physician 24 hrs. before seeing me). He

had a CT scan while at the hospital and the ER physician stated that his

sinuses were full of phlegm.

So, would a WC formula with herbs to transform Damp and support Sp be

indicated here? ANy suggestions on base formula that you've had good success

with, without digestive problems? Thank you for your help.

susan

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Dear Susan,

The 'bad cold' sounds like a key to the case. . . .exposure to wind/cold

is often the major causitive factor of bell's palsy. In order to

differentiate further, please give pulse and tongue information, please.

 

 

 

 

>SusFro

>

>Greetings,

>I am new to this list, but have been quietly enjoying the discussions. I feel

>that this is a great forum to exchange information about herbs and formulas

>and I look forward to more information. I have recently been treating a

>patinet with Bell's palsy, with acupuncture, with fairly good results.

>However, he is working about 150 miles away from my clinic and cannot come in

>for treatment except once/week. I have diagnosed his condition as WC

>Invasion into c/c, along with SP QI Xu + Phelgm Retention, along with QI/Bld

>Stagnation in C/c. He is overweight and had had a " bad cold " for two weeks

>prior to the onset of Bell's Palsy.

>I am wondering if a WC formula would be appropriate for this man or if I need

>more a phlegm reduction/transformation + Sp Qi Xu formula. ANy suggestions??

> I would appreciate any feedback that you all have - Thanks in advance...

> susan

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The prednisone is at what dose? Having that and amoxicillin complicates

things quite a bit. It would seem that a script like ge gen tang/pueraria

decoction might be indicated here.

 

 

 

 

 

>SusFro

>

>Greetings.

>I too feel that it is a WindCold invasion - pulse was thin/thready, slippery

>and very deep in Ki position. Tongue was sl. purple with thick white coating,

>scalloped and sl. puffy. This patient is very overweight, is averse to cold

>and feels colder than normal, has diagnosed hypertention and is on medication

>for this - Atenolol. He is also taking Prednisone and Amoxicillin for the

>Bell's Palsy (given to him by an ER physician 24 hrs. before seeing me). He

>had a CT scan while at the hospital and the ER physician stated that his

>sinuses were full of phlegm.

>So, would a WC formula with herbs to transform Damp and support Sp be

>indicated here? ANy suggestions on base formula that you've had good success

>with, without digestive problems? Thank you for your help.

> susan

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Hi Marc,

 

I have treated a fair number of Bell's Palsy and Ramsey Hunt cases. I have not

had to resort to using herbs, as much as I love herbal medicine. It takes

consistent treatment in the range of 10-15 visits, preferably twice a week.

Also, conjunctive therapies such as moxa pole and/or plum blossom are extremely

helpful.

 

If you want to discuss more about the acupuncture let me know. If you really are

committed to using herbs, I have not done so for this condition.

 

Cheers,

Michael O'Brien

Nashua Acupuncture

 

 

 

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Marc Sklar

Friday, August 13, 2004 11:52 AM

Bell's Palsy

 

 

I am currently treating a patient who suffers with Bell's Palsy.

She has had it for four months now, ever since she gave birth to her

child. Below you will find a direct quote from her and her

experience. I am looking for some guidance regarding an herbal

prescription.

 

With acupuncture she can wrinkle her forehead with more ease, but

her right nostril doesn't flare and her smile is still hindered. I

have only seen her once, but I am pretty sure that she has blood and

Qi vacuity leading to wind, due to its lack of nourishment. I don't

have her chart in front of me, and I know that most of you would

like S/S and Pulse and Tongue, sorry about that. I will try to post

the S/S later today. As much as I would like to give her herbs my

concern is that she is taking Coumadin. I have heard some mixed

responses in the past with regard to prescribing herbal treatment

with coumadin.

 

Is there anyone out there that has experience with this?

What do you all feel about using herbs with this patient? I am a

little cautious about using herbs in this case, but I wanted to get

another opinion.

 

" I delivered my baby on April 5, 2004. I had an epidural and had to

go back to the ER to have a bloodpatch done. The following day I had

revisited the ER again and was diagnosed with Bell's Palsy. I was

given Prednisone and Acyclovior. The following day I was taken to

the ER via an Amulance because I had a seizure at home while

changing my baby. I was hospitalized and after leaving the hospital

I ended up with a blood clot in my leg. Needless to say I was very

anxious, stressed out and depressed. I was advised from my OB/GYN

to see a counselor. I took her advice and spoke to a counselor

which just did not seem to make much of a difference.

 

It has now been 4 months since I had my baby and I don't feel

anywhere near normal. I still have Bell's Palsy despite of my facial

exercises and massages. I am on Dilantin and Coumadin. I must admit

I am not very active and don't practice good eating habits. "

 

Thanks in advance for your help,

Marc

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi, Marc,

 

I haven't treated this A LOT, but I have had one very successful case,

Mainly I attribute the success with moxa, but the patient also took

xiao xu ming tang after the initial attack. She definitely had wind-

cold-damp obstruction and was on no other medications, so... I don't

know if this fits you situation.

 

You are probably aware of this, but the policy at PCOM clinic is that

for patients on coumadin we require their MD's written consent to

give herbs.

 

Good luck,

Sheila White

 

 

Marc Sklar <mbs319

Aug 13, 2004 8:52 AM

 

Bell's Palsy

 

I am currently treating a patient who suffers with Bell's Palsy.

She has had it for four months now, ever since she gave birth to her

child. Below you will find a direct quote from her and her

experience. I am looking for some guidance regarding an herbal

prescription.

 

With acupuncture she can wrinkle her forehead with more ease, but

her right nostril doesn't flare and her smile is still hindered. I

have only seen her once, but I am pretty sure that she has blood and

Qi vacuity leading to wind, due to its lack of nourishment. I don't

have her chart in front of me, and I know that most of you would

like S/S and Pulse and Tongue, sorry about that. I will try to post

the S/S later today. As much as I would like to give her herbs my

concern is that she is taking Coumadin. I have heard some mixed

responses in the past with regard to prescribing herbal treatment

with coumadin.

 

Is there anyone out there that has experience with this?

What do you all feel about using herbs with this patient? I am a

little cautious about using herbs in this case, but I wanted to get

another opinion.

 

" I delivered my baby on April 5, 2004. I had an epidural and had to

go back to the ER to have a bloodpatch done. The following day I had

revisited the ER again and was diagnosed with Bell's Palsy. I was

given Prednisone and Acyclovior. The following day I was taken to

the ER via an Amulance because I had a seizure at home while

changing my baby. I was hospitalized and after leaving the hospital

I ended up with a blood clot in my leg. Needless to say I was very

anxious, stressed out and depressed. I was advised from my OB/GYN

to see a counselor. I took her advice and spoke to a counselor

which just did not seem to make much of a difference.

 

It has now been 4 months since I had my baby and I don't feel

anywhere near normal. I still have Bell's Palsy despite of my facial

exercises and massages. I am on Dilantin and Coumadin. I must admit

I am not very active and don't practice good eating habits. "

 

Thanks in advance for your help,

Marc

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including board

approved continuing education classes, an annual conference and a free

discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine.

 

 

 

 

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> a friend of mine is struggling with Bell's Palsy. he told me that

> the doctors have nothing for him,

 

I'd heard Bell's Palsy responds to acupuncture so I ran a search

engine.

Here's an example of a possible protocol

<http://www.healingpeople.com/ht/index.php?

option=content & task=view & id=388 & Itemid=143>

 

Each dr. of Oriental med. or acupuncturist probably has their own

routines that works for them.

 

Penel

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Often something like Feldenkrais can help unblock impinged

nerves. When I was a cyclist doing long distance rides, I ended

up with palsy in my hands. It was from constantly bearing down

on the handlebars. I didn't realize how much pressure I was

putting on the palms of my hands, even with gloves on. As soon

as I stopped riding, the palsy stopped.

 

Same with sticking my left arm out the car window when driving.

As soon as I stopped doing that, the palsy in my left arm was

gone.

 

Pixie

 

 

herbal remedies , " Rik "

<bliksemskater> wrote:

>

>

> hello all,

> a friend of mine is struggling with Bell's Palsy. he told me that

> the doctors have nothing for him, so i wanted to ask if

someone

> knows anything about how to cure this. he told me that it is a

virus

> and blocks a nerve... i have no idea what it is, any advice would

be

> welcome, thanks, rik

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In a message dated 3/23/05 5:28:26 PM, kelli writes:

 

<< Most cases of paralysis are caused by calcium deficiency. >>

 

What ?????!!!????

 

i beg to differ; most cases of paralysis are caused by trauma, and

CVAs(stroke)

if it were from a calcium deficiency, then most of the general population

would be paralyzed.

bell's palsy is also first caused by a trauma to the nerve, causing an

inflammation along the nerve pathway - there is ischemia (diminished blood flow)

and

the nerve nearly always gets compressed.

we had a dear elderly neighbor lady who had ball's palsy from a dentist's

'oops', and another dear elderly friend who suffered tia's.

some cases can be viral in origin.

 

<<Paralysis of throat: As an aid, chew ginger root often.>>

 

if someone had a paralyzed throat, the _last_ thing they'd need is something

in their mouth, as they wouldn't be able to swallow and would choke on their

own sputum.

 

the only thing i agreed on in your post was the antispasmodic and nervines.

if it were me, i'd opt for some nice sjw oil rubbed into the spot several

times a day.

and i'd go for b vit complex.

d.

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Hi Rik,

 

Here is the info that I have from Doc Christopher's writings:

 

 

PARALYSIS

 

Symptoms:

A rapid or partial loss of muscle function and motion or of sensation

because of nerve injury or neuron destruction. A slight loss of

function is called " palsy " .

 

Cause:

Most cases of paralysis are caused by calcium deficiency. Paralysis is

generally classified as incurable but no disease is incurable. The

problem is due to toxic wastes in the body and it becomes essential to

cleanse the body and give it tone and a positive regeneration in order

to correct the paralysis.

 

Herbal aids:

Paralysis can be cleared with cayenne alone. Correct the cause with a

cleansing program and the regenerative diet. Use nerve tonics and

antispasmodic.

 

Useful herbs:

Black cohosh, catnip, cayenne, dandelion root, ginger, golden seal,

hydrangeas, lady's slipper, poke root (bowels), poplar bark, prickly ash

berries, red clover, red pepper, rosemary, skullcap, valerian root,

vervain, wild cherry bark, yellow dock.

Paralysis of throat: As an aid, chew ginger root often.

 

 

Hope this helps.

 

Best,

Kelli

 

 

|

| Rik [bliksemskater]

| Wednesday, March 23, 2005 2:57 AM

| herbal remedies

| Herbal Remedies - Bell's Palsy

|

| hello all,

| a friend of mine is struggling with Bell's Palsy. he told me that

| the doctors have nothing for him, so i wanted to ask if someone

| knows anything about how to cure this. he told me that it is a virus

| and blocks a nerve... i have no idea what it is, any advice would be

| welcome, thanks, rik

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Very helpful, Kelli, I have a friend in my yoga class with Bells Palsy,

I would love to share this info with her..

 

(My mom once had this, I think emtional stress has a lot to do with it, too.. )

 

Scott.

 

herbal remedies , " Kelli Bever " <kelli@c...> wrote:

>

> Hi Rik,

>

> Here is the info that I have from Doc Christopher's writings:

>

>

> PARALYSIS

>

> Symptoms:

> A rapid or partial loss of muscle function and motion or of sensation

> because of nerve injury or neuron destruction. A slight loss of

> function is called " palsy " .

>

> Cause:

> Most cases of paralysis are caused by calcium deficiency. Paralysis is

> generally classified as incurable but no disease is incurable. The

> problem is due to toxic wastes in the body and it becomes essential to

> cleanse the body and give it tone and a positive regeneration in order

> to correct the paralysis.

>

> Herbal aids:

> Paralysis can be cleared with cayenne alone. Correct the cause with a

> cleansing program and the regenerative diet. Use nerve tonics and

> antispasmodic.

>

> Useful herbs:

> Black cohosh, catnip, cayenne, dandelion root, ginger, golden seal,

> hydrangeas, lady's slipper, poke root (bowels), poplar bark, prickly ash

> berries, red clover, red pepper, rosemary, skullcap, valerian root,

> vervain, wild cherry bark, yellow dock.

> Paralysis of throat: As an aid, chew ginger root often.

>

>

> Hope this helps.

>

> Best,

> Kelli

>

>

> |

> | Rik [bliksemskater]

> | Wednesday, March 23, 2005 2:57 AM

> | herbal remedies

> | Herbal Remedies - Bell's Palsy

> |

> | hello all,

> | a friend of mine is struggling with Bell's Palsy. he told me that

> | the doctors have nothing for him, so i wanted to ask if someone

> | knows anything about how to cure this. he told me that it is a virus

> | and blocks a nerve... i have no idea what it is, any advice would be

> | welcome, thanks, rik

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hi guys! thanks for all the help and advice, i will forward this to

him so he can think about these things. hugs (O:

rik

> Hi Rik,

>

> Here is the info that I have from Doc Christopher's writings:

>

>

> PARALYSIS

>

> Symptoms:

> A rapid or partial loss of muscle function and motion or of

sensation

> because of nerve injury or neuron destruction. A slight loss of

> function is called " palsy " .

>

> Cause:

> Most cases of paralysis are caused by calcium deficiency.

Paralysis is

> generally classified as incurable but no disease is incurable. The

> problem is due to toxic wastes in the body and it becomes essential

to

> cleanse the body and give it tone and a positive regeneration in

order

> to correct the paralysis.

>

> Herbal aids:

> Paralysis can be cleared with cayenne alone. Correct the cause

with a

> cleansing program and the regenerative diet. Use nerve tonics and

> antispasmodic.

>

> Useful herbs:

> Black cohosh, catnip, cayenne, dandelion root, ginger, golden seal,

> hydrangeas, lady's slipper, poke root (bowels), poplar bark,

prickly ash

> berries, red clover, red pepper, rosemary, skullcap, valerian root,

> vervain, wild cherry bark, yellow dock.

> Paralysis of throat: As an aid, chew ginger root often.

>

>

> Hope this helps.

>

> Best,

> Kelli

>

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Do Not Forget LOBELIA!!!!! This is the "nerve" herb and will definitely help out quite a bit.

 

Zebby

 

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Wednesday, March 23, 2005 6:20 PM

RE: Herbal Remedies - Bell's Palsy

Hi Rik,Here is the info that I have from Doc Christopher's writings:PARALYSISSymptoms:A rapid or partial loss of muscle function and motion or of sensationbecause of nerve injury or neuron destruction. A slight loss offunction is called "palsy".Cause:Most cases of paralysis are caused by calcium deficiency. Paralysis isgenerally classified as incurable but no disease is incurable. Theproblem is due to toxic wastes in the body and it becomes essential tocleanse the body and give it tone and a positive regeneration in orderto correct the paralysis.Herbal aids:Paralysis can be cleared with cayenne alone. Correct the cause with acleansing program and the regenerative diet. Use nerve tonics andantispasmodic.Useful herbs:Black cohosh, catnip, cayenne, dandelion root, ginger, golden seal,hydrangeas, lady's slipper, poke root (bowels), poplar bark, prickly ashberries, red clover, red pepper, rosemary, skullcap, valerian root,vervain, wild cherry bark, yellow dock.Paralysis of throat: As an aid, chew ginger root often.Hope this helps.Best,Kelli| | Rik [bliksemskater] | Wednesday, March 23, 2005 2:57 AM| herbal remedies | Herbal Remedies - Bell's Palsy| | hello all,| a friend of mine is struggling with Bell's Palsy. he told me that | the doctors have nothing for him, so i wanted to ask if someone | knows anything about how to cure this. he told me that it is a virus | and blocks a nerve... i have no idea what it is, any advice would be | welcome, thanks, rikFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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Thanks herb nurse. OF course we are not about agreeing or disagreeing but about learning. Bells' Palsy we can all agree is in the end some damaged part of the nervous system. Cayenne would help this, lobelia would and ginger would as well. You will also find that there is more than one definition depending upon where you look.

 

Thanks for the posts,

 

Zeb Sims

 

 

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In a message dated 3/23/05 5:28:26 PM, kelli writes:<< Most cases of paralysis are caused by calcium deficiency. >>What ?????!!!????i beg to differ; most cases of paralysis are caused by trauma, and CVAs(stroke)if it were from a calcium deficiency, then most of the general population would be paralyzed.bell's palsy is also first caused by a trauma to the nerve, causing an inflammation along the nerve pathway - there is ischemia (diminished blood flow) and the nerve nearly always gets compressed. we had a dear elderly neighbor lady who had ball's palsy from a dentist's 'oops', and another dear elderly friend who suffered tia's. some cases can be viral in origin.<<Paralysis of throat: As an aid, chew ginger root often.>>if someone had a paralyzed throat, the _last_ thing they'd need is something in their mouth, as they wouldn't be able to swallow and would choke on their own sputum.the only thing i agreed on in your post was the antispasmodic and nervines.if it were me, i'd opt for some nice sjw oil rubbed into the spot several times a day.and i'd go for b vit complex.d.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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Dear D,

 

Well, you can object to my post all you like, but it was a direct quote

from works by Doc Christopher, which I did state in my post. I believe

he does have a bit of experience in using herbs for healing. ;)

 

Kelli

 

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| Herbmednurse [Herbmednurse]

| Wednesday, March 23, 2005 6:17 PM

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| Re: Herbal Remedies - Bell's Palsy

|

| In a message dated 3/23/05 5:28:26 PM, kelli writes:

|

| << Most cases of paralysis are caused by calcium deficiency. >>

|

| What ?????!!!????

|

| i beg to differ

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I think you're right, Scott. Our emotional/mental state has a TREMENDOUS

amount to do with our physical condition!

 

Best,

Kelli

 

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| Scott Hales [hales]

| Wednesday, March 23, 2005 9:20 PM

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| Herbal Remedies - Re: Bell's Palsy

|

|

| (My mom once had this, I think emtional stress has a lot to

| do with it, too.. )

|

| Scott.

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Definitely right Zeb! Although Doc C doesn't state that explicitly in this exerpt I posted of his material, it's indirectly referred to in the "use nerve tonics and antispasmodic."

 

:)Kelli

 

 

 

Office Manager [office] Thursday, March 24, 2005 6:50 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Bell's Palsy

 

Do Not Forget LOBELIA!!!!! This is the "nerve" herb and will definitely help out quite a bit.

 

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Hi Susan-

Having had Bell's Palsy myself I know the feelings associated with it. However,

you say your sil is in pain? That is not something that is common with Bell's

Palsy. The other symptoms certainly are indicative of Bell's. The cause is not

really known, although it sometimes occurs with shingles. Most people recover

completely in 4-8 weeks (it took the full 8 weeks for me to recover). At the

time I got it, because of my medical knowledge, I immediately started taking

anti-viral meds and steroids. These did not help however (nor do they usually,

but it was worth a try). There is nothing that I am aware of that can help with

this. I even consulted all of my herbal books. It just has to run it's course.

The eye on the affected side should be protected until it can close by itself.

Using heat and massage on the affected side will help them maintain their tone.

When he drinks, have him use a straw and have him use it out of the non-affected

side of his mouth. There are a handful of herbs that can be used, but once

again I am not aware of any documented benefits except just being supportive.

Tea, coffee, liquor and all stimulating foods should be avoided. I believe that

there are multiple types of things that can help with the human body. I believe

that allopathic medicine has its place. However I believe that alternative

medicine certainly has its place too and I am constantly learning about those

alternative healing ways. I wish I could be more helpful. If he is

experiencing pain, there are many types of herbal remedies that can help with

pain. However, pain is a symptom. Prescribing narcotics is not (in my opinion)

the best way to treat this. I don't believe the side effects are worth it, but

to others, they may be. On a more light note...I soon found out that the old

wives tale of " if you sneeze with your eyes open your eyes will be blown out " is

false. It is a weird feeling to be able to sneeze with your eyes open, but your

eyes do say put! Good luck! Cindy

 

 

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> Do any of you have any imperical information on treating Bell's Palsy

> naturally? Anecdotal is alright too - I know you guys wouldn't share

> something with me if you didn't trust the source. I just don't want to go

> on

> a wild goose chase. Susan H.

 

 

MT: acupuncture does a good job of treating bell's palsy.

www.acufinder.com

very good treating pain too.

mercurius trismegistus

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Having had Bell's Palsy myself I know the feelings associated with it.

However, you say your sil is in pain? That is not something that is common

with Bell's Palsy.

 

============Thanks for the info -- felt like I had to try. As for the pain,

according to the doctor and the research I've done, a severe pain behind the

ear does often accompany Bell's Palsy. Not everyone has it though.

 

Susan H.

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Hi Nancy.

 

I recently had good results with facial cupping, very lightly done: I use a

hand pump and manipulate it to give a " kissing " effect on the affected area,

not actually sticking the cups on the face.

 

good luck.

 

p.s. you may also try looking into liver yin deficiency as a possible root

for the problem.

 

2007/7/2, Nancy Corsaro <eastwestacup:

>

> Any ideas on treating Bell's Palsy? I have cleared Wind distally and

> used local points; had a slight improvement after first treatment, but

> no change after 2nd. Third treatment, tried an extra point I'd read

> about, but not much change again. Would appreciate thoughts on other

> points, options, etc.

>

>

>

 

 

 

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--- Nancy Corsaro <eastwestacup wrote:

 

> Any ideas on treating Bell's Palsy? I have cleared

> Wind distally and

> used local points; had a slight improvement after

> first treatment, but

> no change after 2nd. Third treatment, tried an

> extra point I'd read

> about, but not much change again. Would appreciate

> thoughts on other

> points, options, etc.

>

> Dear Nancy ,

 

some times it takes time to clear the palsy .but I

have found also that alternating points on the back of

the head and neck ( gb20 Ub10 du14 )helps a great deal

in acceleration of respond.you shall also find what is

hindering the treatment?

such as ,

emotion, food.cold exposure ,Diabetes .high blood

pressure and etc.

 

regards

 

 

 

 

Dr,M.Fadaie

MBBS,MD,Lic/Ac

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tebe_sozani

 

 

 

 

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A couple of other ideas to utilitze if indicated (I have treated BP successfully

using them): Moxa, distally along the channel, and electroacupuncture, directly

on the points where the BP is most pronounced, such as St 4 and SJ 17.

 

majid fadaie <majidfadaie51 wrote:

--- Nancy Corsaro <eastwestacup wrote:

 

> Any ideas on treating Bell's Palsy? I have cleared

> Wind distally and

> used local points; had a slight improvement after

> first treatment, but

> no change after 2nd. Third treatment, tried an

> extra point I'd read

> about, but not much change again. Would appreciate

> thoughts on other

> points, options, etc.

>

> Dear Nancy ,

 

some times it takes time to clear the palsy .but I

have found also that alternating points on the back of

the head and neck ( gb20 Ub10 du14 )helps a great deal

in acceleration of respond.you shall also find what is

hindering the treatment?

such as ,

emotion, food.cold exposure ,Diabetes .high blood

pressure and etc.

 

regards

 

Dr,M.Fadaie

MBBS,MD,Lic/Ac

Iran Acupucnture discussion group:

tebe_sozani

 

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I remember using the affected meridians on the face ST including LI11 and LI 20,

ST 1. Also I used an ear point mid way on the earlobe to the right. Check for

specific location. All were very helpful.

 

Anne

-------------- Original message ----------------------

" Daniel Luz " <paraodaniel

> Hi Nancy.

>

> I recently had good results with facial cupping, very lightly done: I use a

> hand pump and manipulate it to give a " kissing " effect on the affected area,

> not actually sticking the cups on the face.

>

> good luck.

>

> p.s. you may also try looking into liver yin deficiency as a possible root

> for the problem.

>

> 2007/7/2, Nancy Corsaro <eastwestacup:

> >

> > Any ideas on treating Bell's Palsy? I have cleared Wind distally and

> > used local points; had a slight improvement after first treatment, but

> > no change after 2nd. Third treatment, tried an extra point I'd read

> > about, but not much change again. Would appreciate thoughts on other

> > points, options, etc.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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I've used electro stim on the face for bell's and it worked great. I also

combined BL62, SI3.

 

Jamie

www.whartenby.com

 

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Daniel Luz

Chinese Medicine

Monday, July 02, 2007 5:11 PM

Re: Bell's Palsy

 

 

Hi Nancy.

 

I recently had good results with facial cupping, very lightly done: I use a

hand pump and manipulate it to give a " kissing " effect on the affected area,

not actually sticking the cups on the face.

 

good luck.

 

p.s. you may also try looking into liver yin deficiency as a possible root

for the problem.

 

2007/7/2, Nancy Corsaro <eastwestacup:

>

> Any ideas on treating Bell's Palsy? I have cleared Wind distally and

> used local points; had a slight improvement after first treatment, but

> no change after 2nd. Third treatment, tried an extra point I'd read

> about, but not much change again. Would appreciate thoughts on other

> points, options, etc.

>

>

>

 

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