The Angry Healer

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Anger derives from the Sanskrit 'ang-haar', ang being the body, haar being

to destroy. But the same ang-haar also cooks the food and helps germinate

the seed.

 

By the same token, anger has its purpose and use, so long as it remains in

the stove and does not fall upon the hearth.

 

This would mean an anger which is very much in restrain, a measured response

which is enacted for a predictable purpose.

 

When anger becomes 'ang-haar', it has left the control of the person and has

taken over the Will. Now there is no controlling the outcome.

 

Notice this. Anger, to externalize, needs the words, which in turn need the

power of the wind to move the vocal cords.

 

Whatever the language one derives from a translation of the Chinese word

for anger, the meaning is very clear.

 

If under restrain, anger is good and enacted for a purpose. The words are

measured, the ears listen to the response, there is dialogue, and the matter

resolved one way or the other.

 

If lost control of, anger becomes rampant, purposeless and chaotic. The

words

become yelling, the ears are deaf, there is only a monologue, and the matter

more complicated than before.

 

Such words are so incisive that sometimes it may take a lifetime to retract

these and have these forgiven.

 

Anger is thus words and movement, all Wind based.

 

If anger is lost control of, and words spill out, sooner or later the arm

lists to strike.

 

This is child or wife battering, and road, air and domestic rage.

 

Anger particularly injures the weak and the dependent.

 

The specter of an angered healer, of the unspeaking kind, with

smoldering fires, is terrifying.

 

Dr. Holmes Keikobad

MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ

www.acu-free.com - home based recertification for acupuncturists and health

professionals

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Ken:

You mentioned in your other post the

idea of the simplest structure of Chinese

medicine.

>

>

Nothing more elaborate than what is found in the first few Difficult

Questions in the Nan-Ching.

 

The barest philosophy of .

 

Everything else is built on it.

 

Dr. Holmes Keikobad

MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ

www.acu-free.com - home based recertification for acupuncturists and health

professionals

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Dr. K,

 

 

> Anger derives from the Sanskrit 'ang-haar', ang being the body, haar being

> to destroy. But the same ang-haar also cooks the food and helps germinate

> the seed.

 

There's another attribution given for the

root of anger that might interest you.

You can find it at:

 

http://www.bartleby.com/61/roots/IE18.html

 

The derivation cited here seems to imply

that the roots of the word have to do with

pain, angst, anxiety, and in the latter two

words we can see the traces of the root

still showing.

 

The program I'm working on will be

based in New Mexico.

 

You mentioned in your other post the

idea of the simplest structure of Chinese

medicine. Can you explain where this

is found? It sounds like it is quite clear

to you, but I'm not sure I understand

what you have in mind with that phrase.

 

Thanks,

 

Ken

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> Is it possible for you to identify any particular

> experience or aspect of your education and

> training that allowed you to develop this

> approach/ability?

 

The incidence directly related to this otherly part of my education in

ABT came about 4 years into study.

It happened during a tutorial.

 

Tutorial tradition around here is 3 students sign up for 3 hours of

tutorial together.

Each student gets one hour to focus on an area they feel they need

guidance with while the other two sit quietly in the room.

The hour starts with the student giving the teacher a treatment.

The teacher experiences the student, gives instruction and then guides

the student as they give the treatment to one of the other students.

 

Did the two other students realize what happened in the tutorial?

No.

I think I was just fortunate enough to be ready for a lesson with a

teacher who was ready to teach it.

 

The lesson could have been taught by a client if I'd been awake for

it.

 

> Can you point out particular deficiencies

> in those who have them that make them

> so annoying?

 

Deficiencies and excesses are both caused by a stagnation somewhere.

Do you agree with me on this?

 

We'd be very cold Hearted to not have emotions.

Our emotions are our reflection of the universe.

We can watch our emotions but they are not us.

 

In moderation emotions give us a convenient self diagnostic tool of

our relationship to the Tao.

Taken to extremes (deficiencies and excesses) they can overwhelm our

perceptions of anything not as extreme.

 

> > Yes, it is possible to experience a session from the inside out.

> > There are some ABTs, acupuncturists and herbalists I will probably

> > never consider for treatment or instruction again.

>

> If you were to design a curriculum or course

> of training that would have as one of its aims

> providing adequate instruction and guidance

> to students to help ensure that they don't end

> up on such a list, what would you make sure

> to include?

 

Ken,

I honestly think there's nothing special about what I expect when

receiving an Asian medicine.

This chi thing is a two way street.

Its a conversation.

Admittedly, that I know some of the internal vocabulary is more than

the average client.

 

A decade or so back I was at a get together for people who had lost

their hearing as adults.

I chatted with a man in his mid 50s who had lost his hearing a couple

years earlier. He had been a college professor before the deafness

happened.

I asked him who he felt most comfortable with; people who

were born deaf and had a good command of nonverbal communication

skills or people who could still hear but had learned nonverbal

communication skills.

 

His answer surprised me at that time.

It was that he felt most comfortable with people who were hearing and

knew absolutely no nonverbal communication skills.

 

He saw my surprise and elaborated.

His cultural identity was still as a Hearing. He'd grown up that way.

He hadn't given it up.

 

Culturally Deaf people pay attention.

When they communicate they realize the responsibility in communication

runs to both people conversing.

 

Culturally speaking, Hearings don't care if anyone is listening.

They just talk so they can say something.

 

If this story didn't answer your question,

 

I know I have a lot more room for awareness.

In the summer I garden.

Last winter I wanted to go deeper into Water so I took up working with

stained glass.

I recently signed up for fiddle lessons.

 

Penel

who does shiatsu on a futon

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Penel,

 

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

I found your post thought provoking

and have made a few comments, below.

 

>

> The incidence directly related to this otherly part of my education

in

> ABT came about 4 years into study.

> It happened during a tutorial.

 

Sorry, I don't know what ABT is.

Can you explain?

>

> Tutorial tradition around here is 3 students sign up for 3 hours of

> tutorial together.

> Each student gets one hour to focus on an area they feel they need

> guidance with while the other two sit quietly in the room.

> The hour starts with the student giving the teacher a treatment.

> The teacher experiences the student, gives instruction and then

guides

> the student as they give the treatment to one of the other students.

 

Sounds like a good approach. Whenver I teach

tui na, I have to have the students' hands

on me in order to find out what they learned.

 

 

>

> Did the two other students realize what happened in the tutorial?

> No.

> I think I was just fortunate enough to be ready for a lesson with a

> teacher who was ready to teach it.

>

> The lesson could have been taught by a client if I'd been awake for

> it.

 

And can you summarize what the lesson this

day was?

>

> Deficiencies and excesses are both caused by a stagnation

somewhere.

> Do you agree with me on this?

 

I guess it depends on the context. I never

think about such things in terms of how

they are, rather of how I can do something

about them. I'm never trying to describe

" reality " with Chinese medical terms and

theories. I'm only trying to manipulate

conceptual matrices that allow...or fail

to allow access to the dynamics of the

individual that need to be...adjusted in

order to restore the normal potentials.

 

In other words, I'm not interested in knowing

if deficiencies and excesses are both caused

by a stagnation. I'm only interested in knowing,

with respect to specific circumstances, if

a particular deficiency or excess is caused

by a stagnation if by relieving that stagnation

I can address the issue at hand. Things often

have lots of causes, or perhaps we might want

to gussy up that term and say causal factors.

 

Mostly we just grope around (particularly

in California) until we find one that gives

way or produces the intended response...or

something like it. I don't know if that makes

sense or not, but it touches on a general

issue that's been on my mind for a few years

now, namely the comparative status of " theory "

in Chinese and Western medical frames of

reference.

>

> We'd be very cold Hearted to not have emotions.

> Our emotions are our reflection of the universe.

> We can watch our emotions but they are not us.

>

> In moderation emotions give us a convenient self diagnostic tool of

> our relationship to the Tao.

 

Why on earth would we want one of those?

 

> Taken to extremes (deficiencies and excesses) they can overwhelm our

> perceptions of anything not as extreme.

 

Sorry, I'm lost. All I meant to ask you

was, What is so annoying about these people

who annoy you?

>

[...]

 

> I honestly think there's nothing special about what I expect when

> receiving an Asian medicine.

> This chi thing is a two way street.

> Its a conversation.

> Admittedly, that I know some of the internal vocabulary is more than

> the average client.

 

This I do follow, and I often hear myself

describe the whole clinical interaction

as a conversation. I know, with respect

to this chi thing, that I am always asking

the same question, " Where is it? "

 

And I spend the bulk of my time in the

clinic following it, listening, changing

and then following it some more.

 

 

>

> A decade or so back I was at a get together for people who had lost

> their hearing as adults.

>...

>

> If this story didn't answer your question,

 

Very eloquently. Thank you.

 

>

> I know I have a lot more room for awareness.

> In the summer I garden.

> Last winter I wanted to go deeper into Water so I took up working

with

> stained glass.

> I recently signed up for fiddle lessons.

 

 

Cool. Thanks, again, for your thoughtful

post.

 

Ken

[Guest guest]

Hi All, & HI Holmes,

 

> On the other hand, does the public, should the patient, expect

> more from us because we are Healers in the tradition of great

> healers of old, with a lineage going back, unbroken, over two

> millennia?

 

IMO, yes!

 

They expect us to be empathic listeners, who know (or at least

believe that we know) more than they [the " punters " ] know.

 

They expect a sympathetic ear, and some positive directions

(guidance, as to a beloved brother or sister) as to what they [the

punters] should DO to help themselves.

 

The most fundamental [and earliest] medicine was that of the

Priest/Shaman healer. IMO, when it comes to chronic problems,

most of our patients know [at least subconsciously] what it is in

their lives need to be recognised and changed.

 

It takes a knowledgeable, sympathetic and intuitive listener to

divine that and to make practical suggestions to facilitate those

changes.

 

IMO, the choice of acupoints for needling/moxa, or herbs [and the

time that goes into selecting those] are peripheral to the solution of

many medical problems!

 

As Adam Waisel [LIKEMList] said, early [often forgotten] trauma is

the causal trigger of many chronic human problems. The effective

therapist will help the patient to remember and work through

that/those trauma(s)

 

> ... all the marvelous men from Emperor Huang Di who thought to ask

> about the 81 Difficult Issues, to Chi Po who chose to answer these

> in such marvelous parlance; to upwards of 200 profound healers

> whose commnetaries and annotated; to Dr. Hua To; to Yang

> Hsuan-ts'ao pf the 7th century; to Li Shih Zhen of 1518 or so; to

> Paul U Unschuld of our times; to Ted Kaputcheck who became the

> advertant Weaver of our times; and the many more who are brilliant

> healers, some known, many not so, quietly working out issues by

> candlelight even today, in far reaches of the Hinterland of

> Unknowing.

 

Holmes, there are times that your line of thought eludes me. But

on this issue, IMO the 81 dificult issues can be multiplied to

myriads of difficult issues - the individual realities of our patients'

lives. We listen, we sense, and we act with needles, or herbs, or

maipulation, etc. But we also make suggestions for change

[knowing that our patients will reject [or not comply with] many of

these suggestions.

 

> ... Unbroken lineage, whatever system one follows. Wherever we

> diagnose and treat, Chi Po stands beside and either frowns. Or

> smiles. Holmes

 

And if Qipo were here today, he (she?) would be using high tech

[CAT scans, blood work, infrared scans, etc] to add info that he

could not have dreamed about then.

 

The Qipo of Huangdi's era was erudite [by the knowledge-base of

the day] but had very limited vision by today's knowledge.

 

And what we " hold as scientific truth " today, will be regarded as

primitive 1000 years from now.

 

IMO, the best [most productive] anger is the frustration of knowing

that one does not know, and the hunger to rectify that, knowing

that one will die before that happens!

 

 

Best regards,

 

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Phil:

.... Holmes, there are times that your line of thought eludes me.

>

>

That's the main reason people find my writings irresitable [elegant smile].

 

Dr. Holmes Keikobad

MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ

www.acu-free.com - home based recertification for acupuncturists and health

professionals

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I fear my anger

Which is never seen

And am angered at my fear

Which is aggrieved of my obsessing

Which is caught up in the ploy of jeering Joy.

 

And the enormous ignominy of it all is

That all this is under the dictate and comment

Of the fourth, of the fifth Element.

 

Dr. Holmes Keikobad

MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ

www.acu-free.com - home based recertification for acupuncturists and health

professionals

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Anger is permissible if contrived

And meted out by precise measure

As though it were a rich, kingly treasure.

 

One who angers, must hold the rein

So that it carries purpose, but not the pain.

 

If anger is invoked and runs free of the cage

It will by its own accord, turn into Rage.

 

Halter anger, and it will serve you well

Unchecked, it will create a cruelty-ridden hell.

 

Dr. Holmes Keikobad

MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ

www.acu-free.com - home based recertification for acupuncturists and health

professionals

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wrote: IMO, the best [most productive] anger is the

frustration of knowing

that one does not know, and the hunger to rectify that, knowing

that one will die before that happens!

 

And that is the essence of the Will of Wood: the energy needed to find a

solution when a way appears to be blocked. This is movement and change.

Anger as a pathology is an emotion that has got stuck, in this case

that cannot see the way forward or around or out of a blockage. Anger

as the Will of Wood is the motivating, creative force of spring that

makes it possible for the seedling to find its way around the rock lying

in the way of its growth. It is *not* the pathology.

 

The English names of the Emotions of the Elements are unfortunate

because they mostly have negative connotations to us. Who would want to

choose Grief? Yet the Will of Metal is what enables us to discern

value, what is worth keeping and what letting go. How about Fear? Yet

the awareness of the need for an action just in case it's needed is what

leads to Knowing How - and that connects us with our Destinies. We

might opt for Joy because it sounds good. In balance, Joy helps us

connect with Heaven, communication, love. In pathology it becomes

excessive inappropriate behavior. Sympathy in pathology is 'me, me, me'

or 'not enough for me'. As the Will of Earth it is Intent and

understanding.

 

Karen

[Guest guest]

ok.

Perhaps we need to ask ourselves if a person can work as a Healer

while angry

from a different perspective.

 

Would a martial artist want to enter into tournament while angry or

examples of any of the other emotions?

 

How would they be at a disadvantage if they did so?

 

Penel

[Guest guest]

For a perfect system, anger will not arise to the point that it begins to

partake qualities of Wayward Wind.

 

What if, long ago, humans simply never became angry to the point of

harming others with harsh words, or harsher deeds?

 

If there is so much rage these days, in ever increasing circles of

involvement, is the human race deteriorating?

 

Is society as a whole edging towards an end point, beyond which there

will be a no-return state, of a world given to mad rage, which is justified

by a madder Shen which justifies?

 

Or has that stage already arrived?

 

Dr. Holmes Keikobad

MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ

www.acu-free.com - home based recertification for acupuncturists and health

professionals

[Guest guest]

Anger must know itself.

 

If one is tendeing to anger and oblivious of it, there will be rage.

 

If anger is self-cognizant, it is contrived, stage managed, and therefore

enacted for a purpose.

 

If it is in control, there will be measured words and precise action.

 

If not, ..... ask any battered woman or child, they will tell.

 

Dr. Holmes Keikobad

MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ

www.acu-free.com - home based recertification for acupuncturists and health

professionals

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Hi Karen & All,

 

Karen wrote:

> And that is the essence of the Will of Wood ...

 

I liked these ideas very much.

 

Karen (and any others into 5E and the Emotions), would you like to

summarise systematically the PRO (life-enhancing) and CON (life-

diminishing) aspects of each of the 5 emotions, and their interplays

with the 5 Phases?

 

Happy Christmas to all,

 

Best regards,

 

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Chinese Medicine , " dr. k "

<aryaone@e...> wrote:

> [Laurentiu:

> Don't forget that 2004 will be a wooden year (Green Monkey) - Jia-

> Shen¥Ò¥Ó.

> And because Shen ¥Ó is Metal, " the tree won't grow well under the

> axe " .]

>

> Enigmatic!

>

> Can you talk a little more about 2004 in these terms?

>

> Dr. Holmes Keikobad

> MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ

> www.acu-free.com - home based recertification for acupuncturists

and health

> professionals

 

Hi,

 

You can find details on the Green-Monkey year at:

 

http://www.raymond-lo.com/main/monkey.asp

 

Laurentiu