Guest guest Posted September 13, 2003 Report Posted September 13, 2003 hi folks from acup community. there is the world confer. being planned in oct 2004 . how many of youa re going to make it here. please book your dates & maybe we can have aparallel meeting of the people online friends too. think about it. its in gold coast, australia anand --- <> wrote: > Hi Richard, > You are quite right in my experience; I don't > actually go through all options of what might > relieve the mu point. I suppose I pick up a thread > and follow it; if that thread doesn't show the > change in the diagnostic pt (pulse or whatever I am > using as a diagnostic tool) then, I have to > reconsider my treatment direction and or my > diagnostic tool. It also depends which frame of > reference I am seeing through, ie Manaka, TH, > medical ap etc. > > Yesssss I concurr, less and less to do to get more > and more for the px. I have a personal idea that > the less needed to expend on a px the more there is > of our energy to treat more px's. > > Hmmmm, always a place to stay here if you are > inclined to do a little travelling... > Sharon > > - > acudoc11 > Chinese Medicine > Thursday, September 11, 2003 3:19 PM > Re: Mentoring > > > Sharon > > > I feel into the trap of becoming dependent on > another practitioner and I > > felt I couldn't make a move without first > checking with them or if I was not > > following their style that I was letting them > down. > > A trap that only you get yourself into and can get > yourself out of. To be > there and to see it.....is your way out. > Awareness. > > > he bio feedback I am referring to is the person, > not a machine, although > > the term does imply a machine. > > For sure. > > > So instead of needling say Liv 14, see what pt > on the channel or related > > channel releases the tension here at Liv 14. > This is where I find the various > > theories really useful. I could try the Liver > channel, its source, cleft of > > luo pt; I could try Pe channel, I could try SI > (opposite time of the day). I > > could try GB channel, I could try Ht (in some > Japanese AP they make 2 more > > extra vessel connections one being Liv / He). I > could use kinesiology to > > assess any of these or other choices. > > All those various theories....usefull...yes. But > are those thoughts raging > through your mind before or during tx? If so.....a > suggestion....you need to > move more into the intuitive rather than the > cognitive and afterward you can > explain away all you want what transpired. In the > moment DO.....and later talk or > think. > > > I was surprised this week by a patient (3rd rx) > with much blood stagnation, > > painful periods, PMS, mostly daily h'aches etc, > that I felt her stagnation > > move, the tension dropped in me, I turned around > (I had both her and her > > mother receiving treatment in the same room), > looked at the daughter and said " It > > has changed. " She said " Yes. " It was day one > of her periods and we both > > felt the shift, I had tried a number of > approaches to the stagnation with only > > temporary changes during the treatment, this was > much more fundamental. > > Usually the first days are considered 'hell'. > She was thinking of having a > > hysterectomy to get rid the problem, which was > the choice her mother had made for > > the Blood stagnation which seems to run through > the generations in all the > > women. Interesting it came out at the end of > the treatment, that both are > > pedantic house clearners, something that made me > think I should pay more attention > > to the Metal element next time. > > What is important here is that IT happened. > > > So in that sense yes, the bio feedback was quite > 'tangible'. Perhaps this > > feedback loop just gets more and more subtle as > well as more and more > > obvious. Some are really obvious, like a one > day old sprained ankle reducing its > > pain by 95% in clinic and the ring back the next > day said 100% pain gone. Some > > are more subtle, with abdominal, channel or > pulse changes before a change in > > symptom. > > It gets both more subtle and more obvious and if > we let it......in a relative > sense...we need to do less and less while getting > more and more results in > less time. > > Oh if I were there in Oz to show some examples. > > Richard > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2003 Report Posted September 13, 2003 Dear Anand, Just out of curiosity is there an internet site address? Marco Quote
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2003 Report Posted September 14, 2003 hi marco, i do not know about the web site. but here is the email address of aacma the local assoc. which is organising the conference. contact them & you should get results. if not write back to me. email to -- aacma hear from you soon. anand --- Marco <bergh wrote: > Dear Anand, > > Just out of curiosity is there an internet site > address? > > Marco > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ===== Anand Bapat Pain Management Specialist Sports Injury Specialist Blacktown, Parramatta, Punchbowl, & Hammondville 0402 472 897 ______________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Messenger http://mail.messenger..co.uk Quote
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2003 Report Posted September 16, 2003 Dear Anand, Please keep me informed about a conference in Aust., or NZ. Have been thinking about there for a little while now. What is practising there like for you? If you have time, pls describe a little for me . mystir_lucky , or , TruthFairy_1. thanks. peace, fran anand bapat <acubapat wrote: hi folks from acup community. there is the world confer. being planned in oct 2004 . how many of youa re going to make it here. please book your dates & maybe we can have aparallel meeting of the people online friends too. think about it. its in gold coast, australia anand --- <> wrote: > Hi Richard, > You are quite right in my experience; I don't > actually go through all options of what might > relieve the mu point. I suppose I pick up a thread > and follow it; if that thread doesn't show the > change in the diagnostic pt (pulse or whatever I am > using as a diagnostic tool) then, I have to > reconsider my treatment direction and or my > diagnostic tool. It also depends which frame of > reference I am seeing through, ie Manaka, TH, > medical ap etc. > > Yesssss I concurr, less and less to do to get more > and more for the px. I have a personal idea that > the less needed to expend on a px the more there is > of our energy to treat more px's. > > Hmmmm, always a place to stay here if you are > inclined to do a little travelling... > Sharon > > - > acudoc11 > Chinese Medicine > Thursday, September 11, 2003 3:19 PM > Re: Mentoring > > > Sharon > > > I feel into the trap of becoming dependent on > another practitioner and I > > felt I couldn't make a move without first > checking with them or if I was not > > following their style that I was letting them > down. > > A trap that only you get yourself into and can get > yourself out of. To be > there and to see it.....is your way out. > Awareness. > > > he bio feedback I am referring to is the person, > not a machine, although > > the term does imply a machine. > > For sure. > > > So instead of needling say Liv 14, see what pt > on the channel or related > > channel releases the tension here at Liv 14. > This is where I find the various > > theories really useful. I could try the Liver > channel, its source, cleft of > > luo pt; I could try Pe channel, I could try SI > (opposite time of the day). I > > could try GB channel, I could try Ht (in some > Japanese AP they make 2 more > > extra vessel connections one being Liv / He). I > could use kinesiology to > > assess any of these or other choices. > > All those various theories....usefull...yes. But > are those thoughts raging > through your mind before or during tx? If so.....a > suggestion....you need to > move more into the intuitive rather than the > cognitive and afterward you can > explain away all you want what transpired. In the > moment DO.....and later talk or > think. > > > I was surprised this week by a patient (3rd rx) > with much blood stagnation, > > painful periods, PMS, mostly daily h'aches etc, > that I felt her stagnation > > move, the tension dropped in me, I turned around > (I had both her and her > > mother receiving treatment in the same room), > looked at the daughter and said " It > > has changed. " She said " Yes. " It was day one > of her periods and we both > > felt the shift, I had tried a number of > approaches to the stagnation with only > > temporary changes during the treatment, this was > much more fundamental. > > Usually the first days are considered 'hell'. > She was thinking of having a > > hysterectomy to get rid the problem, which was > the choice her mother had made for > > the Blood stagnation which seems to run through > the generations in all the > > women. Interesting it came out at the end of > the treatment, that both are > > pedantic house clearners, something that made me > think I should pay more attention > > to the Metal element next time. > > What is important here is that IT happened. > > > So in that sense yes, the bio feedback was quite > 'tangible'. Perhaps this > > feedback loop just gets more and more subtle as > well as more and more > > obvious. Some are really obvious, like a one > day old sprained ankle reducing its > > pain by 95% in clinic and the ring back the next > day said 100% pain gone. Some > > are more subtle, with abdominal, channel or > pulse changes before a change in > > symptom. > > It gets both more subtle and more obvious and if > we let it......in a relative > sense...we need to do less and less while getting > more and more results in > less time. > > Oh if I were there in Oz to show some examples. > > Richard > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2003 Report Posted September 16, 2003 Dear Anand, Thanks and below is the internet address it looks extraordinary interesting... http://www.wccm2003.com/program.htm no danger in me being there but if you do go or anyone else it would be a pleasure to her what the conference was like... Marco hi marco, i do not know about the web site. but here is the email address of aacma the local assoc. which is organising the conference. contact them & you should get results. if not write back to me. email to -- aacma hear from you soon. anand Quote
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