feeding animals to animals

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Ahh..dried apricots I can see. You're probably right on, once you get the hard hull off the pit of an apricot, it could be softer inside. I wonder if all these fruits are now genetically engineered...that would probably destroy any good that was present in the fruit or the pit, as the pit is the seed..and they are commonly called "terminator seeds", because they don't reproduce.

 

 

I’ve only had dried apricots. But I think that one cracks open the main part that is harder than a rock, like a nut. Then takes out the meat inside. Like I did with the peach pits when I think of it. The peach pits I remember for not being bitter either. Those apricot pits are almost as big as a golf ball I think, when surrounded by their hull at least. Imagine trying to swallow that.

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" No I do not need to taste poison to know it kills me "

Tell me do you eat the seeds of the fruit that you

consume? If you do then you may need to know that the

seeds of certain fruits contain cynaide which is a

poison that can kill if consumed in high enough

concentrations.

 

--- Joseph Toman <joseph_toman wrote:

 

> No I do not need to taste poison to know it kills me

> and what it taste like when someone records it

> before

> dying. Dont thing we need to beat this to death - I

> think we are on the same team. Hopefully.

>

> --- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger wrote:

>

> > no on the hemlock...

> > yes on the soda

> > no on the mike

> > no on the care...lol

> > (are you sure mike tastes good? and if so... how

> do

> > you know? rotfl)

> >

> > -

> > " Joseph Toman " <joseph_toman

> >

> > Wednesday, March 15, 2006 7:36 PM

> > Re: Re: feeding

> > animals to animals

> >

> >

> > > Do you know how sweet hemlock tastes... Why not?

> > > Perhaps because you know it is bad. And knowing

> > that

> > > you will not take it into your system. Do you

> know

> > how

> > > bad soda drinks are. if not why not? Do you

> > > understand how bad mike is? Do you care? But

> it

> > all

> > > tastes good. So it must be okay.

> > >

> > > Get a grip.

> > >

> > > --- mike man <mgsboediitodpc wrote:

> > >

> > >> " what tastes good and "

> > >> So you have not yet learned to eat what is good

> > for

> > >> you? You want to eat the raw fruit and

> vegetables

> > >> eating them at the momment when the flesh is

> > broken

> > >> to get the most out of the food. Processed

> foods

> > >> are

> > >> no good. Tell us what did you eat today that

> > tasted

> > >> good?

> > >>

> > >> --- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger

> > wrote:

> > >>

> > >> > yes I know.. and Im not that much of a

> fanatic

> > >> > anyway.

> > >> > I just eat what tastes good and I can afford.

> > if

> > >> > healthy fits in those

> > >> > criteria fine... I will try to eat healthy,

> but

> > if

> > >> > it tastes like crap I

> > >> > would rather go hungry... Im too fat anyway.

> > >> >

> > >> > -

> > >> > " mike man " <mgsboediitodpc

> > >> >

> > >> > Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:55 AM

> > >> > Re: Re: feeding

> > >> > animals to animals

> > >> >

> > >> >

> > >> > > " god says we can eat it Im gonna eat it. "

> > >> > > Actually there are rules on what to eat and

> > >> > reasons

> > >> > > for those rules are well defined within

> > various

> > >> > > religions which some follow strictly and

> not

> > so

> > >> > > strictly

> > >> > >

> > >> > > --- SHARON JAGGER

> <sharonjagger

> > >> > wrote:

> > >> > >

> > >> > >> thats rediculous.

> > >> > >> god says we can eat it Im gonna eat it.

> > >> > >> especially if Im starving and there is

> > nothing

> > >> > else

> > >> > >> on my plate.

> > >> > >>

> > >> > >> -

> > >> > >> " mike man "

> <mgsboediitodpc

> > >> > >>

> > >> > >> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:21 PM

> > >> > >> RE: Re:

> > feeding

> > >> > >> animals to animals

> > >> > >>

> > >> > >>

> > >> > >> > " I know people who follow Kosher laws

> who

> > >> > won't

> > >> > >> eat

> > >> > >> > out because the restaurant serves bacon

> in

> > >> the

> > >> > >> > morning. "

> > >> > >> >

> > >> > >> > They eat out just at approved

> restaruants.

> > >> > >> >

> > >> > >> > --- Ed Siceloff <siceloff

> > >> wrote:

> > >> > >> >

> > >> > >> >>

> > >> > >> >> Well gees. Why pick on beef? Anything

> > that

> > >> > is

> > >> > >> >> commercially raised for meat

> > >> > >> >> has to grab your attention. I buy from

> a

> > >> mill

> > >> > >> that

> > >> > >> >> makes many of their own

> > >> > >> >> products. Just to be a little more

> sure

> > >> about

> > >> > >> what

> > >> > >> >> I am feeding the

> > >> > >> >> critters that I eat (mostly eggs from

> > >> > chickens).

> > >> > >> >> There is pretty much only

> > >> > >> >> " good " ingredients in it. But, to be

> > sure,

> > >> > from

> > >> > >> >> what the research states,

> > >> > >> >> prions actually have what I would say

> > >> " eternal

> > >> > >> life "

> > >> > >> >> ascribed to them. You

> > >> > >> >> give commercial feed to your animals,

> > that

> > >> has

> > >> > >> >> animal carcass in it, that is

> > >> > >> >> infected with the various spongeiform

> > >> > diseases,

> > >> > >> you

> > >> > >> >> can be infected by

> > >> > >> >> putting it on the soil you grow your

> > garden

> > >> > in.

> > >> > >> >> That is supposedly one of

> > >> > >> >> the ways that deer and elk get infected

> > with

> > >> > it.

> > >> > >> >> But, I remember reading

> > >> > >> >> some things stating that particular

> > immune

> > >> > >> systems

> > >> > >> >> can handle these things

> > >> > >> >> as well. Otherwise, we'd probably all

> be

> > >> > already

> > >> > >> >> sick with, what, mad

> > >> > >> >> human?

> > >> > >> >>

> > >> > >> >> I know people who follow Kosher laws

> > who

> > >> > won't

> > >> > >> eat

> > >> > >> >> out because the

> > >> > >> >> restaurant serves bacon in the morning.

>

> > Too

> > >> > much

> > >> > >> >> risk in it for them. Pig

> > >> > >> >> gets all over everything.

> > >> > >> >>

> > >> > >> >> Another thought would be that the

> > prions

> > >> > last

> > >> > >> on

> > >> > >> >> from the animal carcass

> > >> > >> >> all the way to a gelatin capsule that

> is

> > >> made

> > >> > >> from

> > >> > >> >> animal source. You get

> > >> > >> >> it with your vitamins and herbs.

> > >> > >> >>

> > >> > >> >>

> > >> > >> >>

>

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I just sprinkled a very small amt of each capsule on their dry food...and put the black walnut tincture on their food too, but it was all directed by the book I got that Dr Clark wrote...how to treat yourself and your pets. It's on her website though, or it used to be. My cats coats just shined within 2-3 days of just the prep, which is the parsley water...a teaspoon every day on their food. They seemed to like that. She says not to use regular cinnamon spice as all spices contain preservatives and extra crap that isn't good to use.

 

Cinnamon is supposed to be very good for diabetics. A lot of people are taking it now as a supplement.

 

I am familiar with the Amazon herbs, but haven't purchased anything yet.

 

Wormwood was the other herb I was trying to think of. Nobody was mentioning it, but I was trying to remember what it was other than black walnut. I was unfamiliar with cinnamon for parasites. I use a tea now from Amazonherbs that is said to be good for parasites. It is a number of various rainforest herbs. Its also a good tasting tea (to me anyways). I should do this for my outside dogs, with the ingredients you’ve mentioned.

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how tightly should I hold (grip) on?

 

--- Joseph Toman <joseph_toman wrote:

 

> Do you know how sweet hemlock tastes... Why not?

> Perhaps because you know it is bad. And knowing

> that

> you will not take it into your system. Do you know

> how

> bad soda drinks are. if not why not? Do you

> understand how bad mike is? Do you care? But it

> all

> tastes good. So it must be okay.

>

> Get a grip.

>

> --- mike man <mgsboediitodpc wrote:

>

> > " what tastes good and "

> > So you have not yet learned to eat what is good

> for

> > you? You want to eat the raw fruit and vegetables

> > eating them at the momment when the flesh is

> broken

> > to get the most out of the food. Processed foods

> > are

> > no good. Tell us what did you eat today that

> tasted

> > good?

> >

> > --- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger

> wrote:

> >

> > > yes I know.. and Im not that much of a fanatic

> > > anyway.

> > > I just eat what tastes good and I can afford. if

> > > healthy fits in those

> > > criteria fine... I will try to eat healthy, but

> if

> > > it tastes like crap I

> > > would rather go hungry... Im too fat anyway.

> > >

> > > -

> > > " mike man " <mgsboediitodpc

> > >

> > > Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:55 AM

> > > Re: Re: feeding

> > > animals to animals

> > >

> > >

> > > > " god says we can eat it Im gonna eat it. "

> > > > Actually there are rules on what to eat and

> > > reasons

> > > > for those rules are well defined within

> various

> > > > religions which some follow strictly and not

> so

> > > > strictly

> > > >

> > > > --- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > >> thats rediculous.

> > > >> god says we can eat it Im gonna eat it.

> > > >> especially if Im starving and there is

> nothing

> > > else

> > > >> on my plate.

> > > >>

> > > >> -

> > > >> " mike man " <mgsboediitodpc

> > > >>

> > > >> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:21 PM

> > > >> RE: Re: feeding

> > > >> animals to animals

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >> > " I know people who follow Kosher laws who

> > > won't

> > > >> eat

> > > >> > out because the restaurant serves bacon in

> > the

> > > >> > morning. "

> > > >> >

> > > >> > They eat out just at approved restaruants.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > --- Ed Siceloff <siceloff

> > wrote:

> > > >> >

> > > >> >>

> > > >> >> Well gees. Why pick on beef? Anything

> that

> > > is

> > > >> >> commercially raised for meat

> > > >> >> has to grab your attention. I buy from a

> > mill

> > > >> that

> > > >> >> makes many of their own

> > > >> >> products. Just to be a little more sure

> > about

> > > >> what

> > > >> >> I am feeding the

> > > >> >> critters that I eat (mostly eggs from

> > > chickens).

> > > >> >> There is pretty much only

> > > >> >> " good " ingredients in it. But, to be

> sure,

> > > from

> > > >> >> what the research states,

> > > >> >> prions actually have what I would say

> > " eternal

> > > >> life "

> > > >> >> ascribed to them. You

> > > >> >> give commercial feed to your animals, that

> > has

> > > >> >> animal carcass in it, that is

> > > >> >> infected with the various spongeiform

> > > diseases,

> > > >> you

> > > >> >> can be infected by

> > > >> >> putting it on the soil you grow your

> garden

> > > in.

> > > >> >> That is supposedly one of

> > > >> >> the ways that deer and elk get infected

> with

> > > it.

> > > >> >> But, I remember reading

> > > >> >> some things stating that particular immune

> > > >> systems

> > > >> >> can handle these things

> > > >> >> as well. Otherwise, we'd probably all be

> > > already

> > > >> >> sick with, what, mad

> > > >> >> human?

> > > >> >>

> > > >> >> I know people who follow Kosher laws who

> > > won't

> > > >> eat

> > > >> >> out because the

> > > >> >> restaurant serves bacon in the morning.

> Too

> > > much

> > > >> >> risk in it for them. Pig

> > > >> >> gets all over everything.

> > > >> >>

> > > >> >> Another thought would be that the prions

> > > last

> > > >> on

> > > >> >> from the animal carcass

> > > >> >> all the way to a gelatin capsule that is

> > made

> > > >> from

> > > >> >> animal source. You get

> > > >> >> it with your vitamins and herbs.

> > > >> >>

> > > >> >>

> > > >> >>

> > > >> >> Ed

> > > >> >>

> > > >> >>

> > > >> >>

> > > >> >> _____

> > > >> >>

> > > >> >>

> > > >> >>

>

> > On

> > > >> >> Behalf Of mike man

> > > >> >> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:44 PM

> > > >> >>

> > > >> >> Re: Re:

> > feeding

> > > >> >> animals to animals

> > > >> >>

> > > >> >>

> > > >> >>

> > > >> >> " That

> > > >> >> means if you eat in a kitchen that has had

> > > beef

> > > >> >> prepared in it using

> > > >> >> any surface, utinsels, pots or pans that

> > have

> > > had

> > > >> >> contact with beef

> > > >> >> you risk picking it up even if you do not

> > eat

> > > >> beef.

> > > >> >> Same with

> > > >> >> restaurants, even, probably, the air you

> > > >> breathe. "

> > > >> >>

> > > >> >> And let us not forget that the beef

> industry

> > > >> sells

> > > >> >> the

> > > >> >> carcass and bones to companies that turn

> it

> > > into

> > > >> >> fertilizer used to grow vegetables and

> soap

> > > used

> > > >> to

> > > >> >> was one's skin with.

> > > >> >>

>

=== message truncated ===

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Sorry, dont understand --use more words to explain to

my simple mind. 'Hold on' to what? Health.

Understanding or what...

 

Get a grip and don't go to mc donalds or fast food

stores any more. Don't think you can do that, can

you? I did not eat yesterday. May not today. SO

What?

 

Kind of like who cares? who really cares about eating

and 'enjoying' food. That is the biggest addiction

known to mankind. Next is sex.. And we certinly have

that all screewed up too.

 

--- mike man <mgsboediitodpc wrote:

 

> how tightly should I hold (grip) on?

>

> --- Joseph Toman <joseph_toman wrote:

>

> > Do you know how sweet hemlock tastes... Why not?

> > Perhaps because you know it is bad. And knowing

> > that

> > you will not take it into your system. Do you know

> > how

> > bad soda drinks are. if not why not? Do you

> > understand how bad that is? Do you care? But it

> > all

> > tastes good. So it must be okay.

> >

> > Get a grip.

> >

> > --- mike man <mgsboediitodpc wrote:

> >

> > > " what tastes good and "

> > > So you have not yet learned to eat what is good

> > for

> > > you? You want to eat the raw fruit and

> vegetables

> > > eating them at the momment when the flesh is

> > broken

> > > to get the most out of the food. Processed

> foods

> > > are

> > > no good. Tell us what did you eat today that

> > tasted

> > > good?

> > >

> > > --- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > > yes I know.. and Im not that much of a fanatic

> > > > anyway.

> > > > I just eat what tastes good and I can afford.

> if

> > > > healthy fits in those

> > > > criteria fine... I will try to eat healthy,

> but

> > if

> > > > it tastes like crap I

> > > > would rather go hungry... Im too fat anyway.

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > " mike man " <mgsboediitodpc

> > > >

> > > > Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:55 AM

> > > > Re: Re: feeding

> > > > animals to animals

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > " god says we can eat it Im gonna eat it. "

> > > > > Actually there are rules on what to eat and

> > > > reasons

> > > > > for those rules are well defined within

> > various

> > > > > religions which some follow strictly and not

> > so

> > > > > strictly

> > > > >

> > > > > --- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >> thats rediculous.

> > > > >> god says we can eat it Im gonna eat it.

> > > > >> especially if Im starving and there is

> > nothing

> > > > else

> > > > >> on my plate.

> > > > >>

> > > > >> -

> > > > >> " mike man " <mgsboediitodpc

> > > > >>

> > > > >> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:21 PM

> > > > >> RE: Re:

> feeding

> > > > >> animals to animals

> > > > >>

> > > > >>

> > > > >> > " I know people who follow Kosher laws

> who

> > > > won't

> > > > >> eat

> > > > >> > out because the restaurant serves bacon

> in

> > > the

> > > > >> > morning. "

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > They eat out just at approved

> restaruants.

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > --- Ed Siceloff <siceloff

> > > wrote:

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> >>

> > > > >> >> Well gees. Why pick on beef? Anything

> > that

> > > > is

> > > > >> >> commercially raised for meat

> > > > >> >> has to grab your attention. I buy from

> a

> > > mill

> > > > >> that

> > > > >> >> makes many of their own

> > > > >> >> products. Just to be a little more sure

> > > about

> > > > >> what

> > > > >> >> I am feeding the

> > > > >> >> critters that I eat (mostly eggs from

> > > > chickens).

> > > > >> >> There is pretty much only

> > > > >> >> " good " ingredients in it. But, to be

> > sure,

> > > > from

> > > > >> >> what the research states,

> > > > >> >> prions actually have what I would say

> > > " eternal

> > > > >> life "

> > > > >> >> ascribed to them. You

> > > > >> >> give commercial feed to your animals,

> that

> > > has

> > > > >> >> animal carcass in it, that is

> > > > >> >> infected with the various spongeiform

> > > > diseases,

> > > > >> you

> > > > >> >> can be infected by

> > > > >> >> putting it on the soil you grow your

> > garden

> > > > in.

> > > > >> >> That is supposedly one of

> > > > >> >> the ways that deer and elk get infected

> > with

> > > > it.

> > > > >> >> But, I remember reading

> > > > >> >> some things stating that particular

> immune

> > > > >> systems

> > > > >> >> can handle these things

> > > > >> >> as well. Otherwise, we'd probably all

> be

> > > > already

> > > > >> >> sick with, what, mad

> > > > >> >> human?

> > > > >> >>

> > > > >> >> I know people who follow Kosher laws

> who

> > > > won't

> > > > >> eat

> > > > >> >> out because the

> > > > >> >> restaurant serves bacon in the morning.

> > Too

> > > > much

> > > > >> >> risk in it for them. Pig

> > > > >> >> gets all over everything.

> > > > >> >>

> > > > >> >> Another thought would be that the

> prions

> > > > last

> > > > >> on

> > > > >> >> from the animal carcass

> > > > >> >> all the way to a gelatin capsule that is

> > > made

> > > > >> from

> > > > >> >> animal source. You get

> > > > >> >> it with your vitamins and herbs.

> > > > >> >>

> > > > >> >>

> > > > >> >>

> > > > >> >> Ed

> > > > >> >>

> > > > >> >>

> > > > >> >>

> > > > >> >> _____

> > > > >> >>

> > > > >> >>

> > > > >> >>

> >

> > > On

> > > > >> >> Behalf Of mike man

> > > > >> >> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:44 PM

> > > > >> >>

> > > > >> >> Re: Re:

> > > feeding

> > > > >> >> animals to animals

> > > > >> >>

> > > > >> >>

> > > > >> >>

> > > > >> >> " That

> > > > >> >> means if you eat in a kitchen that has

> had

> > > > beef

> > > > >> >> prepared in it using

> > > > >> >> any surface, utinsels, pots or pans that

> > > have

> > > > had

> > > > >> >> contact with beef

> > > > >> >> you risk picking it up even if you do

> not

> > > eat

> > > > >> beef.

> > > > >> >> Same with

> > > > >> >> restaurants, even, probably, the air you

> > > > >> breathe. "

> > > > >> >>

> > > > >> >> And let us not forget that the beef

> > industry

> > > > >> sells

> > > > >> >> the

> > > > >> >> carcass and bones to companies that turn

> > it

> > > > into

> > > > >> >> fertilizer used to grow vegetables and

> > soap

> > > > used

> > > > >> to

> > > > >> >> was one's skin with.

> > > > >> >>

> >

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[Guest guest]

We are fed 'animals to animals' in beef products and

vitamins daily, all kinds of things. DID anyone ever

consider that?

 

But, I Guess you do want to beat this to death. Yes I

do eat seeds and even apple seeds - chew them up real

good. I believe they are good for me. even take POKE

root at times for tumers etc. But so what? I take

Black Walnet twice a week for parisites, But that is

just me. Do you think that I do not know that poisons

in some forms may be good for me. Guess I taste

poisons daily. Even drink them at least twice a month.

But so what? What king of answer do you expect. I

know I have parisites in my body and I choose to kill

them as much as I can.

 

I also know that a little bit of a castor bean may

kill you - it is called risene(sp) But again, so what?

Don't want to kill myself just want to kill that

which is killing me.

 

--- mike man <mgsboediitodpc wrote:

 

> " No I do not need to taste poison to know it kills

> me "

> Tell me do you eat the seeds of the fruit that you

> consume? If you do then you may need to know that

> the

> seeds of certain fruits contain cynaide which is a

> poison that can kill if consumed in high enough

> concentrations.

>

> --- Joseph Toman <joseph_toman wrote:

>

> > No I do not need to taste poison to know it kills

> me

> > and what it taste like when someone records it

> > before

> > dying. Dont thing we need to beat this to death -

> I

> > think we are on the same team. Hopefully.

> >

> > --- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger

> wrote:

> >

> > > no on the hemlock...

> > > yes on the soda

> > > no on the mike

> > > no on the care...lol

> > > (are you sure mike tastes good? and if so... how

> > do

> > > you know? rotfl)

> > >

> > > -

> > > " Joseph Toman " <joseph_toman

> > >

> > > Wednesday, March 15, 2006 7:36 PM

> > > Re: Re: feeding

> > > animals to animals

> > >

> > >

> > > > Do you know how sweet hemlock tastes... Why

> not?

> > > > Perhaps because you know it is bad. And

> knowing

> > > that

> > > > you will not take it into your system. Do you

> > know

> > > how

> > > > bad soda drinks are. if not why not? Do you

> > > > understand how bad mike is? Do you care? But

> > it

> > > all

> > > > tastes good. So it must be okay.

> > > >

> > > > Get a grip.

> > > >

> > > > --- mike man <mgsboediitodpc wrote:

> > > >

> > > >> " what tastes good and "

> > > >> So you have not yet learned to eat what is

> good

> > > for

> > > >> you? You want to eat the raw fruit and

> > vegetables

> > > >> eating them at the momment when the flesh is

> > > broken

> > > >> to get the most out of the food. Processed

> > foods

> > > >> are

> > > >> no good. Tell us what did you eat today that

> > > tasted

> > > >> good?

> > > >>

> > > >> --- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger

> > > wrote:

> > > >>

> > > >> > yes I know.. and Im not that much of a

> > fanatic

> > > >> > anyway.

> > > >> > I just eat what tastes good and I can

> afford.

> > > if

> > > >> > healthy fits in those

> > > >> > criteria fine... I will try to eat healthy,

> > but

> > > if

> > > >> > it tastes like crap I

> > > >> > would rather go hungry... Im too fat

> anyway.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > -

> > > >> > " mike man " <mgsboediitodpc

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:55 AM

> > > >> > Re: Re:

> feeding

> > > >> > animals to animals

> > > >> >

> > > >> >

> > > >> > > " god says we can eat it Im gonna eat it. "

> > > >> > > Actually there are rules on what to eat

> and

> > > >> > reasons

> > > >> > > for those rules are well defined within

> > > various

> > > >> > > religions which some follow strictly and

> > not

> > > so

> > > >> > > strictly

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > --- SHARON JAGGER

> > <sharonjagger

> > > >> > wrote:

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > >> thats rediculous.

> > > >> > >> god says we can eat it Im gonna eat it.

> > > >> > >> especially if Im starving and there is

> > > nothing

> > > >> > else

> > > >> > >> on my plate.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> -

> > > >> > >> " mike man "

> > <mgsboediitodpc

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:21 PM

> > > >> > >> RE: Re:

> > > feeding

> > > >> > >> animals to animals

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> > " I know people who follow Kosher laws

> > who

> > > >> > won't

> > > >> > >> eat

> > > >> > >> > out because the restaurant serves

> bacon

> > in

> > > >> the

> > > >> > >> > morning. "

> > > >> > >> >

> > > >> > >> > They eat out just at approved

> > restaruants.

> > > >> > >> >

> > > >> > >> > --- Ed Siceloff

> <siceloff

> > > >> wrote:

> > > >> > >> >

> > > >> > >> >>

> > > >> > >> >> Well gees. Why pick on beef?

> Anything

> > > that

> > > >> > is

> > > >> > >> >> commercially raised for meat

> > > >> > >> >> has to grab your attention. I buy

> from

> > a

> > > >> mill

> > > >> > >> that

> > > >> > >> >> makes many of their own

> > > >> > >> >> products. Just to be a little more

> > sure

> > > >> about

> > > >> > >> what

> > > >> > >> >> I am feeding the

> > > >> > >> >> critters that I eat (mostly eggs from

> > > >> > chickens).

> > > >> > >> >> There is pretty much only

> > > >> > >> >> " good " ingredients in it. But, to be

> > > sure,

> > > >> > from

> > > >> > >> >> what the research states,

> > > >> > >> >> prions actually have what I would say

> > > >> " eternal

> > > >> > >> life "

> > > >> > >> >> ascribed to them. You

> > > >> > >> >> give commercial feed to your animals,

> > > that

> > > >> has

> > > >> > >> >> animal carcass in it, that is

> > > >> > >> >> infected with the various spongeiform

> > > >> > diseases,

> > > >> > >> you

> > > >> > >> >> can be infected by

> > > >> > >> >> putting it on the soil you grow your

> > > garden

> > > >> > in.

> > > >> > >> >> That is supposedly one of

> > > >> > >> >> the ways that deer and elk get

> infected

> > > with

> > > >> > it.

> > > >> > >> >> But, I remember reading

> > > >> > >> >> some things stating that particular

> > > immune

> > > >> > >> systems

> > > >> > >> >> can handle these things

> > > >> > >> >> as well. Otherwise, we'd probably

> all

> > be

> > > >> > already

> > > >> > >> >> sick with, what, mad

> > > >> > >> >> human?

> > > >> > >> >>

> > > >> > >> >> I know people who follow Kosher

> laws

> > > who

> > > >> > won't

> > > >> > >> eat

> > > >> > >> >> out because the

> > > >> > >> >> restaurant serves bacon in the

> morning.

> >

> > > Too

> > > >> > much

> > > >> > >> >> risk in it for them. Pig

> > > >> > >> >> gets all over everything.

> > > >> > >> >>

> > > >> > >> >> Another thought would be that the

> > > prions

> > > >> > last

> > > >> > >> on

> > > >> > >> >> from the animal carcass

> > > >> > >> >> all the way to a gelatin capsule that

> > is

> > > >> made

> > > >> > >> from

> > > >> > >> >> animal source. You get

> > > >> > >> >> it with your vitamins and herbs.

> > > >> > >> >>

> > > >> > >> >>

> > > >> > >> >>

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OK now boys... let's play nice. its ok to joke a little but flaming and

nastiness won't help anything.

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the 25th and miscommunications are very likely.

why dont we just now move on to something more constructive.

 

jag

 

 

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" Joseph Toman " <joseph_toman

 

Thursday, March 16, 2006 11:13 AM

Re: Re: feeding animals to animals

 

 

> Sorry, dont understand --use more words to explain to

> my simple mind. 'Hold on' to what? Health.

> Understanding or what...

>

> Get a grip and don't go to mc donalds or fast food

> stores any more. Don't think you can do that, can

> you? I did not eat yesterday. May not today. SO

> What?

>

> Kind of like who cares? who really cares about eating

> and 'enjoying' food. That is the biggest addiction

> known to mankind. Next is sex.. And we certinly have

> that all screewed up too.

>

> --- mike man <mgsboediitodpc wrote:

>

>> how tightly should I hold (grip) on?

>>

>> --- Joseph Toman <joseph_toman wrote:

>>

>> > Do you know how sweet hemlock tastes... Why not?

>> > Perhaps because you know it is bad. And knowing

>> > that

>> > you will not take it into your system. Do you know

>> > how

>> > bad soda drinks are. if not why not? Do you

>> > understand how bad that is? Do you care? But it

>> > all

>> > tastes good. So it must be okay.

>> >

>> > Get a grip.

>> >

>> > --- mike man <mgsboediitodpc wrote:

>> >

>> > > " what tastes good and "

>> > > So you have not yet learned to eat what is good

>> > for

>> > > you? You want to eat the raw fruit and

>> vegetables

>> > > eating them at the momment when the flesh is

>> > broken

>> > > to get the most out of the food. Processed

>> foods

>> > > are

>> > > no good. Tell us what did you eat today that

>> > tasted

>> > > good?

>> > >

>> > > --- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger

>> > wrote:

>> > >

>> > > > yes I know.. and Im not that much of a fanatic

>> > > > anyway.

>> > > > I just eat what tastes good and I can afford.

>> if

>> > > > healthy fits in those

>> > > > criteria fine... I will try to eat healthy,

>> but

>> > if

>> > > > it tastes like crap I

>> > > > would rather go hungry... Im too fat anyway.

>> > > >

>> > > > -

>> > > > " mike man " <mgsboediitodpc

>> > > >

>> > > > Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:55 AM

>> > > > Re: Re: feeding

>> > > > animals to animals

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > > > " god says we can eat it Im gonna eat it. "

>> > > > > Actually there are rules on what to eat and

>> > > > reasons

>> > > > > for those rules are well defined within

>> > various

>> > > > > religions which some follow strictly and not

>> > so

>> > > > > strictly

>> > > > >

>> > > > > --- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger

>> > > > wrote:

>> > > > >

>> > > > >> thats rediculous.

>> > > > >> god says we can eat it Im gonna eat it.

>> > > > >> especially if Im starving and there is

>> > nothing

>> > > > else

>> > > > >> on my plate.

>> > > > >>

>> > > > >> -

>> > > > >> " mike man " <mgsboediitodpc

>> > > > >>

>> > > > >> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:21 PM

>> > > > >> RE: Re:

>> feeding

>> > > > >> animals to animals

>> > > > >>

>> > > > >>

>> > > > >> > " I know people who follow Kosher laws

>> who

>> > > > won't

>> > > > >> eat

>> > > > >> > out because the restaurant serves bacon

>> in

>> > > the

>> > > > >> > morning. "

>> > > > >> >

>> > > > >> > They eat out just at approved

>> restaruants.

>> > > > >> >

>> > > > >> > --- Ed Siceloff <siceloff

>> > > wrote:

>> > > > >> >

>> > > > >> >>

>> > > > >> >> Well gees. Why pick on beef? Anything

>> > that

>> > > > is

>> > > > >> >> commercially raised for meat

>> > > > >> >> has to grab your attention. I buy from

>> a

>> > > mill

>> > > > >> that

>> > > > >> >> makes many of their own

>> > > > >> >> products. Just to be a little more sure

>> > > about

>> > > > >> what

>> > > > >> >> I am feeding the

>> > > > >> >> critters that I eat (mostly eggs from

>> > > > chickens).

>> > > > >> >> There is pretty much only

>> > > > >> >> " good " ingredients in it. But, to be

>> > sure,

>> > > > from

>> > > > >> >> what the research states,

>> > > > >> >> prions actually have what I would say

>> > > " eternal

>> > > > >> life "

>> > > > >> >> ascribed to them. You

>> > > > >> >> give commercial feed to your animals,

>> that

>> > > has

>> > > > >> >> animal carcass in it, that is

>> > > > >> >> infected with the various spongeiform

>> > > > diseases,

>> > > > >> you

>> > > > >> >> can be infected by

>> > > > >> >> putting it on the soil you grow your

>> > garden

>> > > > in.

>> > > > >> >> That is supposedly one of

>> > > > >> >> the ways that deer and elk get infected

>> > with

>> > > > it.

>> > > > >> >> But, I remember reading

>> > > > >> >> some things stating that particular

>> immune

>> > > > >> systems

>> > > > >> >> can handle these things

>> > > > >> >> as well. Otherwise, we'd probably all

>> be

>> > > > already

>> > > > >> >> sick with, what, mad

>> > > > >> >> human?

>> > > > >> >>

>> > > > >> >> I know people who follow Kosher laws

>> who

>> > > > won't

>> > > > >> eat

>> > > > >> >> out because the

>> > > > >> >> restaurant serves bacon in the morning.

>> > Too

>> > > > much

>> > > > >> >> risk in it for them. Pig

>> > > > >> >> gets all over everything.

>> > > > >> >>

>> > > > >> >> Another thought would be that the

>> prions

>> > > > last

>> > > > >> on

>> > > > >> >> from the animal carcass

>> > > > >> >> all the way to a gelatin capsule that is

>> > > made

>> > > > >> from

>> > > > >> >> animal source. You get

>> > > > >> >> it with your vitamins and herbs.

>> > > > >> >>

>> > > > >> >>

>> > > > >> >>

>> > > > >> >> Ed

>> > > > >> >>

>> > > > >> >>

>> > > > >> >>

>> > > > >> >> _____

>> > > > >> >>

>> > > > >> >>

>> > > > >> >>

>> >

>> > > On

>> > > > >> >> Behalf Of mike man

>> > > > >> >> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:44 PM

>> > > > >> >>

>> > > > >> >> Re: Re:

>> > > feeding

>> > > > >> >> animals to animals

>> > > > >> >>

>> > > > >> >>

>> > > > >> >>

>> > > > >> >> " That

>> > > > >> >> means if you eat in a kitchen that has

>> had

>> > > > beef

>> > > > >> >> prepared in it using

>> > > > >> >> any surface, utinsels, pots or pans that

>> > > have

>> > > > had

>> > > > >> >> contact with beef

>> > > > >> >> you risk picking it up even if you do

>> not

>> > > eat

>> > > > >> beef.

>> > > > >> >> Same with

>> > > > >> >> restaurants, even, probably, the air you

>> > > > >> breathe. "

>> > > > >> >>

>> > > > >> >> And let us not forget that the beef

>> > industry

>> > > > >> sells

>> > > > >> >> the

>> > > > >> >> carcass and bones to companies that turn

>> > it

>> > > > into

>> > > > >> >> fertilizer used to grow vegetables and

>> > soap

>> > > > used

>> > > > >> to

>> > > > >> >> was one's skin with.

>> > > > >> >>

>> >

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[Guest guest]

That is the best you have. " be nice "

 

Play nice? Does that mean don't say what you believe

because you may upset someone. Mercury can go to

hell.

 

Sorry if I am upsetting. Just do as you will and

disregard my comments to your own demise.

 

Where is the flaming and where is your perogative to

say " now boys... "

 

--- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger wrote:

 

> OK now boys... let's play nice. its ok to joke a

> little but flaming and

> nastiness won't help anything.

> I think someone needs to remind the group that

> Mercury is in retrograde til

> the 25th and miscommunications are very likely.

> why dont we just now move on to something more

> constructive.

>

> jag

>

>

> -

> " Joseph Toman " <joseph_toman

>

> Thursday, March 16, 2006 11:13 AM

> Re: Re: feeding

> animals to animals

>

>

> > Sorry, dont understand --use more words to explain

> to

> > my simple mind. 'Hold on' to what? Health.

> > Understanding or what...

> >

> > Get a grip and don't go to mc donalds or fast food

> > stores any more. Don't think you can do that, can

> > you? I did not eat yesterday. May not today. SO

> > What?

> >

> > Kind of like who cares? who really cares about

> eating

> > and 'enjoying' food. That is the biggest

> addiction

> > known to mankind. Next is sex.. And we certinly

> have

> > that all screewed up too.

> >

> > --- mike man <mgsboediitodpc wrote:

> >

> >> how tightly should I hold (grip) on?

> >>

> >> --- Joseph Toman <joseph_toman wrote:

> >>

> >> > Do you know how sweet hemlock tastes... Why

> not?

> >> > Perhaps because you know it is bad. And

> knowing

> >> > that

> >> > you will not take it into your system. Do you

> know

> >> > how

> >> > bad soda drinks are. if not why not? Do you

> >> > understand how bad that is? Do you care? But

> it

> >> > all

> >> > tastes good. So it must be okay.

> >> >

> >> > Get a grip.

> >> >

> >> > --- mike man <mgsboediitodpc wrote:

> >> >

> >> > > " what tastes good and "

> >> > > So you have not yet learned to eat what is

> good

> >> > for

> >> > > you? You want to eat the raw fruit and

> >> vegetables

> >> > > eating them at the momment when the flesh is

> >> > broken

> >> > > to get the most out of the food. Processed

> >> foods

> >> > > are

> >> > > no good. Tell us what did you eat today that

> >> > tasted

> >> > > good?

> >> > >

> >> > > --- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger

> >> > wrote:

> >> > >

> >> > > > yes I know.. and Im not that much of a

> fanatic

> >> > > > anyway.

> >> > > > I just eat what tastes good and I can

> afford.

> >> if

> >> > > > healthy fits in those

> >> > > > criteria fine... I will try to eat healthy,

> >> but

> >> > if

> >> > > > it tastes like crap I

> >> > > > would rather go hungry... Im too fat

> anyway.

> >> > > >

> >> > > > -

> >> > > > " mike man " <mgsboediitodpc

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:55 AM

> >> > > > Re: Re:

> feeding

> >> > > > animals to animals

> >> > > >

> >> > > >

> >> > > > > " god says we can eat it Im gonna eat it. "

> >> > > > > Actually there are rules on what to eat

> and

> >> > > > reasons

> >> > > > > for those rules are well defined within

> >> > various

> >> > > > > religions which some follow strictly and

> not

> >> > so

> >> > > > > strictly

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > --- SHARON JAGGER

> <sharonjagger

> >> > > > wrote:

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > >> thats rediculous.

> >> > > > >> god says we can eat it Im gonna eat it.

> >> > > > >> especially if Im starving and there is

> >> > nothing

> >> > > > else

> >> > > > >> on my plate.

> >> > > > >>

> >> > > > >> -

> >> > > > >> " mike man "

> <mgsboediitodpc

> >> > > > >>

> >> > > > >> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:21 PM

> >> > > > >> RE: Re:

> >> feeding

> >> > > > >> animals to animals

> >> > > > >>

> >> > > > >>

> >> > > > >> > " I know people who follow Kosher laws

> >> who

> >> > > > won't

> >> > > > >> eat

> >> > > > >> > out because the restaurant serves

> bacon

> >> in

> >> > > the

> >> > > > >> > morning. "

> >> > > > >> >

> >> > > > >> > They eat out just at approved

> >> restaruants.

> >> > > > >> >

> >> > > > >> > --- Ed Siceloff

> <siceloff

> >> > > wrote:

> >> > > > >> >

> >> > > > >> >>

> >> > > > >> >> Well gees. Why pick on beef?

> Anything

> >> > that

> >> > > > is

> >> > > > >> >> commercially raised for meat

> >> > > > >> >> has to grab your attention. I buy

> from

> >> a

> >> > > mill

> >> > > > >> that

> >> > > > >> >> makes many of their own

> >> > > > >> >> products. Just to be a little more

> sure

> >> > > about

> >> > > > >> what

> >> > > > >> >> I am feeding the

> >> > > > >> >> critters that I eat (mostly eggs from

> >> > > > chickens).

> >> > > > >> >> There is pretty much only

> >> > > > >> >> " good " ingredients in it. But, to be

> >> > sure,

> >> > > > from

> >> > > > >> >> what the research states,

> >> > > > >> >> prions actually have what I would say

> >> > > " eternal

> >> > > > >> life "

> >> > > > >> >> ascribed to them. You

> >> > > > >> >> give commercial feed to your animals,

> >> that

> >> > > has

> >> > > > >> >> animal carcass in it, that is

> >> > > > >> >> infected with the various spongeiform

> >> > > > diseases,

> >> > > > >> you

> >> > > > >> >> can be infected by

> >> > > > >> >> putting it on the soil you grow your

> >> > garden

> >> > > > in.

> >> > > > >> >> That is supposedly one of

> >> > > > >> >> the ways that deer and elk get

> infected

> >> > with

> >> > > > it.

> >> > > > >> >> But, I remember reading

> >> > > > >> >> some things stating that particular

> >> immune

> >> > > > >> systems

> >> > > > >> >> can handle these things

> >> > > > >> >> as well. Otherwise, we'd probably

> all

> >> be

> >> > > > already

> >> > > > >> >> sick with, what, mad

> >> > > > >> >> human?

> >> > > > >> >>

> >> > > > >> >> I know people who follow Kosher

> laws

> >> who

> >> > > > won't

> >> > > > >> eat

> >> > > > >> >> out because the

> >> > > > >> >> restaurant serves bacon in the

> morning.

> >> > Too

> >> > > > much

> >> > > > >> >> risk in it for them. Pig

> >> > > > >> >> gets all over everything.

> >> > > > >> >>

> >> > > > >> >> Another thought would be that the

> >> prions

> >> > > > last

> >> > > > >> on

> >> > > > >> >> from the animal carcass

> >> > > > >> >> all the way to a gelatin capsule that

> is

> >> > > made

> >> > > > >> from

> >> > > > >> >> animal source. You get

> >> > > > >> >> it with your vitamins and herbs.

> >> > > > >> >>

> >> > > > >> >>

> >> > > > >> >>

> >> > > > >> >> Ed

> >> > > > >> >>

> >> > > > >> >>

> >> > > > >> >>

> >> > > > >> >> _____

> >> > > > >> >>

> >> > > > >> >>

>

> >> > > > >> >>

> >> >

> >> > > On

> >> > > > >> >> Behalf Of mike man

> >> > > > >> >> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:44 PM

> >> > > > >> >> To:

>

> >> > > > >> >> Re: Re:

> >> > > feeding

> >> > > > >> >> animals to animals

> >> > > > >> >>

> >> > > > >> >>

> >> > > > >> >>

> >> > > > >> >> " That

> >> > > > >> >> means if you eat in a kitchen that

> has

> >> had

> >> > > > beef

> >> > > > >> >> prepared in it using

> >> > > > >> >> any surface, utinsels, pots or pans

> that

> >> > > have

> >> > > > had

> >> > > > >> >> contact with beef

> >> > > > >> >> you risk picking it up even if you do

> >> not

> >> > > eat

> >> > > > >> beef.

> >> > > > >> >> Same with

> >> > > > >> >> restaurants, even, probably, the air

> you

> >> > > > >> breathe. "

> >> > > > >> >>

> >> > > > >> >> And let us not forget that the beef

> >> > industry

> >> > > > >> sells

> >> > > > >> >> the

> >> > > > >> >> carcass and bones to companies that

> turn

> >> > it

> >> > > > into

> >> > > > >> >> fertilizer used to grow vegetables

> and

> >> > soap

> >> > > > used

> >> > > > >> to

> >> > > > >> >> was one's skin with.

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[Guest guest]

The large food processing companies have been playing

dirty for many years now. They have learned to appeal

to your senses of smell, taste and sight to get you to

eat their processed goods.Make the food look

appetizing. Make sure to channel the smell of burning

flesh into the crowds of walking people to entice them

to come in and feast. Make the food look so good that

all will want to eat it.

 

--- Joseph Toman <joseph_toman wrote:

 

> That is the best you have. " be nice "

>

> Play nice? Does that mean don't say what you

> believe

> because you may upset someone. Mercury can go to

> hell.

>

> Sorry if I am upsetting. Just do as you will and

> disregard my comments to your own demise.

>

> Where is the flaming and where is your perogative to

> say " now boys... "

>

> --- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger wrote:

>

> > OK now boys... let's play nice. its ok to joke a

> > little but flaming and

> > nastiness won't help anything.

> > I think someone needs to remind the group that

> > Mercury is in retrograde til

> > the 25th and miscommunications are very likely.

> > why dont we just now move on to something more

> > constructive.

> >

> > jag

> >

> >

> > -

> > " Joseph Toman " <joseph_toman

> >

> > Thursday, March 16, 2006 11:13 AM

> > Re: Re: feeding

> > animals to animals

> >

> >

> > > Sorry, dont understand --use more words to

> explain

> > to

> > > my simple mind. 'Hold on' to what? Health.

> > > Understanding or what...

> > >

> > > Get a grip and don't go to mc donalds or fast

> food

> > > stores any more. Don't think you can do that,

> can

> > > you? I did not eat yesterday. May not today.

> SO

> > > What?

> > >

> > > Kind of like who cares? who really cares about

> > eating

> > > and 'enjoying' food. That is the biggest

> > addiction

> > > known to mankind. Next is sex.. And we certinly

> > have

> > > that all screewed up too.

> > >

> > > --- mike man <mgsboediitodpc wrote:

> > >

> > >> how tightly should I hold (grip) on?

> > >>

> > >> --- Joseph Toman <joseph_toman

> wrote:

> > >>

> > >> > Do you know how sweet hemlock tastes... Why

> > not?

> > >> > Perhaps because you know it is bad. And

> > knowing

> > >> > that

> > >> > you will not take it into your system. Do you

> > know

> > >> > how

> > >> > bad soda drinks are. if not why not? Do you

> > >> > understand how bad that is? Do you care?

> But

> > it

> > >> > all

> > >> > tastes good. So it must be okay.

> > >> >

> > >> > Get a grip.

> > >> >

> > >> > --- mike man <mgsboediitodpc

> wrote:

> > >> >

> > >> > > " what tastes good and "

> > >> > > So you have not yet learned to eat what is

> > good

> > >> > for

> > >> > > you? You want to eat the raw fruit and

> > >> vegetables

> > >> > > eating them at the momment when the flesh

> is

> > >> > broken

> > >> > > to get the most out of the food. Processed

> > >> foods

> > >> > > are

> > >> > > no good. Tell us what did you eat today

> that

> > >> > tasted

> > >> > > good?

> > >> > >

> > >> > > --- SHARON JAGGER

> <sharonjagger

> > >> > wrote:

> > >> > >

> > >> > > > yes I know.. and Im not that much of a

> > fanatic

> > >> > > > anyway.

> > >> > > > I just eat what tastes good and I can

> > afford.

> > >> if

> > >> > > > healthy fits in those

> > >> > > > criteria fine... I will try to eat

> healthy,

> > >> but

> > >> > if

> > >> > > > it tastes like crap I

> > >> > > > would rather go hungry... Im too fat

> > anyway.

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > -

> > >> > > > " mike man "

> <mgsboediitodpc

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:55 AM

> > >> > > > Re: Re:

> > feeding

> > >> > > > animals to animals

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > >

> > >> > > > > " god says we can eat it Im gonna eat

> it. "

> > >> > > > > Actually there are rules on what to eat

> > and

> > >> > > > reasons

> > >> > > > > for those rules are well defined within

> > >> > various

> > >> > > > > religions which some follow strictly

> and

> > not

> > >> > so

> > >> > > > > strictly

> > >> > > > >

> > >> > > > > --- SHARON JAGGER

> > <sharonjagger

> > >> > > > wrote:

> > >> > > > >

> > >> > > > >> thats rediculous.

> > >> > > > >> god says we can eat it Im gonna eat

> it.

> > >> > > > >> especially if Im starving and there is

> > >> > nothing

> > >> > > > else

> > >> > > > >> on my plate.

> > >> > > > >>

> > >> > > > >> -

> > >> > > > >> " mike man "

> > <mgsboediitodpc

> > >> > > > >> To:

>

> > >> > > > >> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:21 PM

> > >> > > > >> RE: Re:

> > >> feeding

> > >> > > > >> animals to animals

> > >> > > > >>

> > >> > > > >>

> > >> > > > >> > " I know people who follow Kosher

> laws

> > >> who

> > >> > > > won't

> > >> > > > >> eat

> > >> > > > >> > out because the restaurant serves

> > bacon

> > >> in

> > >> > > the

> > >> > > > >> > morning. "

> > >> > > > >> >

> > >> > > > >> > They eat out just at approved

> > >> restaruants.

> > >> > > > >> >

> > >> > > > >> > --- Ed Siceloff

> > <siceloff

> > >> > > wrote:

> > >> > > > >> >

> > >> > > > >> >>

> > >> > > > >> >> Well gees. Why pick on beef?

> > Anything

> > >> > that

> > >> > > > is

> > >> > > > >> >> commercially raised for meat

> > >> > > > >> >> has to grab your attention. I buy

> > from

> > >> a

> > >> > > mill

> > >> > > > >> that

> > >> > > > >> >> makes many of their own

> > >> > > > >> >> products. Just to be a little more

> > sure

> > >> > > about

> > >> > > > >> what

> > >> > > > >> >> I am feeding the

>

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[Guest guest]

" We are fed 'animals to animals' in beef products and

vitamins daily, all kinds of things. DID anyone ever

consider that? "

 

What is your point here. Tuna and Samon eat smaller

fish. Are you saying that we eat cannibalistic

animals?

 

" I know I have parisites in my body and I choose to

kill them as much as I can. "

We all do for it is all about balance. We we die and

those bugs are no longer kept in check and consume the

body hole. Some alive people maggots can be seen

consuming the body from the surface, the skin level.

 

 

--- Joseph Toman <joseph_toman wrote:

 

> We are fed 'animals to animals' in beef products and

> vitamins daily, all kinds of things. DID anyone

> ever

> consider that?

>

> But, I Guess you do want to beat this to death. Yes

> I

> do eat seeds and even apple seeds - chew them up

> real

> good. I believe they are good for me. even take

> POKE

> root at times for tumers etc. But so what? I take

> Black Walnet twice a week for parisites, But that is

> just me. Do you think that I do not know that

> poisons

> in some forms may be good for me. Guess I taste

> poisons daily. Even drink them at least twice a

> month.

> But so what? What king of answer do you expect. I

> know I have parisites in my body and I choose to

> kill

> them as much as I can.

>

> I also know that a little bit of a castor bean may

> kill you - it is called risene(sp) But again, so

> what?

> Don't want to kill myself just want to kill that

> which is killing me.

>

> --- mike man <mgsboediitodpc wrote:

>

> > " No I do not need to taste poison to know it kills

> > me "

> > Tell me do you eat the seeds of the fruit that you

> > consume? If you do then you may need to know that

> > the

> > seeds of certain fruits contain cynaide which is a

> > poison that can kill if consumed in high enough

> > concentrations.

> >

> > --- Joseph Toman <joseph_toman wrote:

> >

> > > No I do not need to taste poison to know it

> kills

> > me

> > > and what it taste like when someone records it

> > > before

> > > dying. Dont thing we need to beat this to death

> -

> > I

> > > think we are on the same team. Hopefully.

> > >

> > > --- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > > no on the hemlock...

> > > > yes on the soda

> > > > no on the mike

> > > > no on the care...lol

> > > > (are you sure mike tastes good? and if so...

> how

> > > do

> > > > you know? rotfl)

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > " Joseph Toman " <joseph_toman

> > > >

> > > > Wednesday, March 15, 2006 7:36 PM

> > > > Re: Re: feeding

> > > > animals to animals

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Do you know how sweet hemlock tastes... Why

> > not?

> > > > > Perhaps because you know it is bad. And

> > knowing

> > > > that

> > > > > you will not take it into your system. Do

> you

> > > know

> > > > how

> > > > > bad soda drinks are. if not why not? Do

> you

> > > > > understand how bad mike is? Do you care?

> But

> > > it

> > > > all

> > > > > tastes good. So it must be okay.

> > > > >

> > > > > Get a grip.

> > > > >

> > > > > --- mike man <mgsboediitodpc

> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >> " what tastes good and "

> > > > >> So you have not yet learned to eat what is

> > good

> > > > for

> > > > >> you? You want to eat the raw fruit and

> > > vegetables

> > > > >> eating them at the momment when the flesh

> is

> > > > broken

> > > > >> to get the most out of the food. Processed

> > > foods

> > > > >> are

> > > > >> no good. Tell us what did you eat today

> that

> > > > tasted

> > > > >> good?

> > > > >>

> > > > >> --- SHARON JAGGER

> <sharonjagger

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >>

> > > > >> > yes I know.. and Im not that much of a

> > > fanatic

> > > > >> > anyway.

> > > > >> > I just eat what tastes good and I can

> > afford.

> > > > if

> > > > >> > healthy fits in those

> > > > >> > criteria fine... I will try to eat

> healthy,

> > > but

> > > > if

> > > > >> > it tastes like crap I

> > > > >> > would rather go hungry... Im too fat

> > anyway.

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > -

> > > > >> > " mike man "

> <mgsboediitodpc

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:55 AM

> > > > >> > Re: Re:

> > feeding

> > > > >> > animals to animals

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > > " god says we can eat it Im gonna eat

> it. "

> > > > >> > > Actually there are rules on what to eat

> > and

> > > > >> > reasons

> > > > >> > > for those rules are well defined within

> > > > various

> > > > >> > > religions which some follow strictly

> and

> > > not

> > > > so

> > > > >> > > strictly

> > > > >> > >

> > > > >> > > --- SHARON JAGGER

> > > <sharonjagger

> > > > >> > wrote:

> > > > >> > >

> > > > >> > >> thats rediculous.

> > > > >> > >> god says we can eat it Im gonna eat

> it.

> > > > >> > >> especially if Im starving and there is

> > > > nothing

> > > > >> > else

> > > > >> > >> on my plate.

> > > > >> > >>

> > > > >> > >> -

> > > > >> > >> " mike man "

> > > <mgsboediitodpc

> > > > >> > >> To:

>

> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:21 PM

> > > > >> > >> RE: Re:

> > > > feeding

> > > > >> > >> animals to animals

> > > > >> > >>

> > > > >> > >>

> > > > >> > >> > " I know people who follow Kosher

> laws

> > > who

> > > > >> > won't

> > > > >> > >> eat

> > > > >> > >> > out because the restaurant serves

> > bacon

> > > in

> > > > >> the

> > > > >> > >> > morning. "

> > > > >> > >> >

> > > > >> > >> > They eat out just at approved

> > > restaruants.

> > > > >> > >> >

> > > > >> > >> > --- Ed Siceloff

> > <siceloff

> > > > >> wrote:

> > > > >> > >> >

> > > > >> > >> >>

> > > > >> > >> >> Well gees. Why pick on beef?

> > Anything

> > > > that

> > > > >> > is

> > > > >> > >> >> commercially raised for meat

> > > > >> > >> >> has to grab your attention. I buy

>

=== message truncated ===

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of mike man

Thursday, March 16, 2006

1:47 PM

 

Re:

Re: feeding animals to animals

 

 

" No I do not need to taste poison to know it kills me "

Tell me do you eat the seeds of the fruit that you

consume? If you do then you may need to know

that the

seeds of certain fruits contain cynaide which is a

poison that can kill if consumed in high enough

concentrations.

 

 

 

 

Hi Mike: The cultures that eat apple

seeds, apricot pits, peach seeds, cherry pits, all containing a type of cyanide,

do quite well. As it turns out, the particular form of cyanide kills cancer

cells. Your body’s regular cells has an enzyme that deactivates the

cyanide molecule. The cancer cells do not. They die. I forget what that

enzyme is. I’ve sat down and gluttoned out on cherries, and ate the pits

(swallowed them). Never even got sick.

On the other hand, if you were to throw

a wilted branch of wild cherry tree over the fence to one’s goats, they

could die of cyanide poisoning. Apparently the leaves are a little different.

I have neighbors that are paranoid of that. Supposedly they’ve seen

animals die from eating the leaves of apple, peach, cherry trees after they get

wilted. Don’t know what happens in that chemical process.

 

Ed

[Guest guest]

RIGHT ON ED.

ANd....

 

Sure you do know Ed, --they die---.

 

Too much of anyting will KILL you, It is in the amount

that helps or kills.

Will you take poisens like Black Walnut to be well, Or

not. Kill the little critters in your body and be

well

 

guess i lost the rest of this message...

 

--- Ed Siceloff <siceloff

>

>

>

> On

> Behalf Of mike man

> Thursday, March 16, 2006 1:47 PM

>

> Re: Re: feeding

> animals to animals

>

>

>

> " No I do not need to taste poison to know it kills

> me "

> Tell me do you eat the seeds of the fruit that you

> consume? If you do then you may need to know that

> the

> seeds of certain fruits contain cynaide which is a

> poison that can kill if consumed in high enough

> concentrations.

>

>

>

> Hi Mike: The cultures that eat apple seeds,

> apricot pits, peach seeds,

> cherry pits, all containing a type of cyanide, do

> quite well. As it turns

> out, the particular form of cyanide kills cancer

> cells. Your body's regular

> cells has an enzyme that deactivates the cyanide

> molecule. The cancer cells

> do not. They die. I forget what that enzyme is.

> I've sat down and

> gluttoned out on cherries, and ate the pits

> (swallowed them). Never even

> got sick.

>

> On the other hand, if you were to throw a wilted

> branch of wild cherry

> tree over the fence to one's goats, they could die

> of cyanide poisoning.

> Apparently the leaves are a little different. I

> have neighbors that are

> paranoid of that. Supposedly they've seen animals

> die from eating the

> leaves of apple, peach, cherry trees after they get

> wilted. Don't know what

> happens in that chemical process.

>

>

>

> Ed

_____

>

>

[Guest guest]

I know about cherry pits.  I’ve

cracked open peach pits and eaten them as well.  Not quite the same quantity,

even though they are larger, as the cherry pits.  And then I eat the whole

apple most of the time.  When they are in season.  Only time I like apples. Fresh. 

I’ve not seen an animal die from eating the leaves of these various

trees.  Just other people vouching for  that one.  And, I don’t want to

see one of my animals die from eating the leaves either.  Wilted leaves that

is. 

  If I thought that I had a parasite

problem, I would eat a tea, or some brew, with black walnut in it.  I’d

have to know more about it though and how much.  I remember reading an herbal

by Culpeper 20 years ago.  He wrote about fennel seed and its use in losing

weight.  Steep a teaspoon of fennel into a cup of hot water (having boiled it)

and then drink it.  I did so.  I did that at about 10pm.  Went to sleep.  Was

married then.  I woke up, and woke her up too, about 1:30am shivering, really

shivering.  Ended up with electric blanket on high and some other blankets on

as well.  Took awhile but went back to sleep, when warm again.  Then I woke up

to pee.  Sheesh.  Pee and pee, and pee some more.  I went to a school that

morning where I was maintenance.  The people there said that I looked up awful

(no jokes, more awful than normal).  Made me go see the nurse.  She thought I

looked dehydrated, especially when I told her about all the bathroom stuff.  I

lost 8 pounds of weight in one night.  Reckon that was most of the water that

was available in me.  People there sent me home. 

  Some years later, I read the same

formula in another herbal (I collect them).  This one said to take one teaspoon

of the diffusion every hour.  It helps to burn fat.  So, obviously I very

seriously overdosed, or had an allergic reaction to the massive dose.  So, yep,

you’re right.  Doses are important. 

 

ed

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Joseph Toman

Thursday, March 16, 2006

5:58 PM

 

RE:

Re: feeding animals to animals

 

 

RIGHT ON ED.

ANd....

 

Sure you do know Ed, --they die---.

 

Too much of anyting will KILL you, It is in the

amount

that helps or kills.

Will you take poisens like Black Walnut to be

well, Or

not. Kill the little critters in your body

and be

well

 

guess i lost the rest of this message...

 

--- Ed Siceloff <siceloff

>

>

>

>

On

> Behalf Of mike man

> Thursday, March 16, 2006 1:47 PM

>

> Re: Re: feeding

> animals to animals

>

>

>

> " No I do not need to taste poison to

know it kills

> me "

> Tell me do you eat the seeds of the fruit

that you

> consume? If you do then you may need to

know that

> the

> seeds of certain fruits contain cynaide which

is a

> poison that can kill if consumed in high

enough

> concentrations.

>

>

>

> Hi Mike: The cultures that eat

apple seeds,

> apricot pits, peach seeds,

> cherry pits, all containing a type of

cyanide, do

> quite well. As it turns

> out, the particular form of cyanide kills

cancer

> cells. Your body's regular

> cells has an enzyme that deactivates the

cyanide

> molecule. The cancer cells

> do not. They die. I forget what

that enzyme is.

> I've sat down and

> gluttoned out on cherries, and ate the pits

> (swallowed them). Never even

> got sick.

>

> On the other hand, if you were to

throw a wilted

> branch of wild cherry

> tree over the fence to one's goats, they

could die

> of cyanide poisoning.

> Apparently the leaves are a little

different. I

> have neighbors that are

> paranoid of that. Supposedly they've

seen animals

> die from eating the

> leaves of apple, peach, cherry trees after

they get

> wilted. Don't know what

> happens in that chemical process.

>

>

>

> Ed

>

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

[Guest guest]

Lor, how much I understand. My wife died needlessly

because of cancer. After ten years. I still have a

guilt complex. I really should have forced her. No

one could feel as bad as me...

 

--- Shiree1000 wrote:

 

> Hi,

>

> The pits of apricots have B17, which is

> laitrille...and I think I've heard

> that the other fruits seeds contain it too.

> Laitrille is considered to be a good

> cancer treatment, but illegal to sell as that in

> this country..in the form of

> supplements. Can sell it now, but can't say it cures

> cancer. I wonder how a

> person could manage to get apricot pits down?

>

> Lor

>

>

>

> > Hi Mike: The cultures that eat apple seeds,

> apricot pits, peach seeds,

> > cherry pits, all containing a type of cyanide, do

> quite well. As it turns out,

> > the particular form of cyanide kills cancer cells.

> Your body’s regular

> > cells has an enzyme that deactivates the cyanide

> molecule. The cancer cells do

> > not. They die. I forget what that enzyme is.

> I’ve sat down and gluttoned

> > out on cherries, and ate the pits (swallowed

> them). Never even got sick.

> >

> > On the other hand, if you were to throw a wilted

> branch of wild cherry tree

> > over the fence to one’s goats, they could die of

> cyanide poisoning.

> > Apparently the leaves are a little different. I

> have neighbors that are paranoid of

> > that. Supposedly they’ve seen animals die from

> eating the leaves of apple,

> > peach, cherry trees after they get wilted.

> Don’t know what happens in that

> > chemical process.

> >

> >

> >

> > Ed

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

I’ve only had dried apricots. But I think

that one cracks open the main part that is harder than a rock, like a nut.

Then takes out the meat inside. Like I did with the peach pits when I think of

it. The peach pits I remember for not being bitter either. Those apricot pits

are almost as big as a golf ball I think, when surrounded by their hull at

least. Imagine trying to swallow that.

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Shiree1000

Thursday, March 16, 2006

5:58 PM

 

Re:

Re: feeding animals to animals

 

 

Hi,

 

The pits of apricots have B17, which is laitrille...and I think I've heard that

the other fruits seeds contain it too. Laitrille is considered to be a good

cancer treatment, but illegal to sell as that in this country..in the form of

supplements. Can sell it now, but can't say it cures cancer. I wonder how a

person could manage to get apricot pits down?

 

Lor

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Mike: The

cultures that eat apple seeds, apricot pits, peach seeds, cherry pits, all

containing a type of cyanide, do quite well. As it turns out, the

particular form of cyanide kills cancer cells. Your body’s regular cells

has an enzyme that deactivates the cyanide molecule. The cancer cells do

not. They die. I forget what that enzyme is. I’ve sat down

and gluttoned out on cherries, and ate the pits (swallowed them). Never

even got sick.

 

On the other hand, if you were to throw a wilted branch of

wild cherry tree over the fence to one’s goats, they could die of cyanide

poisoning. Apparently the leaves are a little different. I have

neighbors that are paranoid of that. Supposedly they’ve seen animals die

from eating the leaves of apple, peach, cherry trees after they get

wilted. Don’t know what happens in that chemical process.

 

 

 

Ed

[Guest guest]

I understand and agree. BUT those who need it don't

care. Just get chemo or drugs and forget the cause.

 

--- Shiree1000 wrote:

 

> Hi,

>

> The pits of apricots have B17, which is

> laitrille...and I think I've heard

> that the other fruits seeds contain it too.

> Laitrille is considered to be a good

> cancer treatment, but illegal to sell as that in

> this country..in the form of

> supplements. Can sell it now, but can't say it cures

> cancer. I wonder how a

> person could manage to get apricot pits down?

>

> Lor

>

>

>

> > Hi Mike: The cultures that eat apple seeds,

> apricot pits, peach seeds,

> > cherry pits, all containing a type of cyanide, do

> quite well. As it turns out,

> > the particular form of cyanide kills cancer cells.

> Your body’s regular

> > cells has an enzyme that deactivates the cyanide

> molecule. The cancer cells do

> > not. They die. I forget what that enzyme is.

> I’ve sat down and gluttoned

> > out on cherries, and ate the pits (swallowed

> them). Never even got sick.

> >

> > On the other hand, if you were to throw a wilted

> branch of wild cherry tree

> > over the fence to one’s goats, they could die of

> cyanide poisoning.

> > Apparently the leaves are a little different. I

> have neighbors that are paranoid of

> > that. Supposedly they’ve seen animals die from

> eating the leaves of apple,

> > peach, cherry trees after they get wilted.

> Don’t know what happens in that

> > chemical process.

> >

> >

> >

> > Ed

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wormwood was the other herb I was trying

to think of. Nobody was mentioning it, but I was trying to remember what it

was other than black walnut. I was unfamiliar with cinnamon for parasites. I

use a tea now from Amazonherbs that is said to be good for parasites. It is a

number of various rainforest herbs. Its also a good tasting tea (to me

anyways). I should do this for my outside dogs, with the ingredients you’ve

mentioned.

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Shiree1000

Thursday, March 16, 2006

6:20 PM

 

Re:

Re: feeding animals to animals

 

 

Ed

 

I have used black walnut tincture, wormwood capsules, and pure cinnamon

capsules for an intestinal cleanse once, recommended by

Dr. Hulda Clark. It lasted one month and I lost weight without trying,

cured whatever ailed me at the time, and I put my cats on it also (as

she recommends to deparasite) after giving them parsley water for

a week to tone the kidneys. At the time, I had bad gastro reflux and

you wouldn't think I could handle the cinnamon capsules and the

wormwood, but it didn't bother me..

 

Lor

 

 

 

 

I know

about cherry pits. I’ve cracked open peach pits and eaten them as

well. Not quite the same quantity, even though they are larger, as the

cherry pits. And then I eat the whole apple most of the time. When

they are in season. Only time I like apples. Fresh. I’ve not seen

an animal die from eating the leaves of these various trees. Just other

people vouching for that one. And, I don’t want to see one of my

animals die from eating the leaves either. Wilted leaves that is.

 

If I thought that I had a parasite problem, I would eat a

tea, or some brew, with black walnut in it. I’d have to know more about

it though and how much. I remember reading an herbal by Culpeper 20 years

ago. He wrote about fennel seed and its use in losing weight. Steep

a teaspoon of fennel into a cup of hot water (having boiled it) and then drink

it. I did so. I did that at about 10pm. Went to sleep.

Was married then. I woke up, and woke her up too, about 1:30am shivering,

really shivering. Ended up with electric blanket on high and some other

blankets on as well. Took awhile but went back to sleep, when warm

again. Then I woke up to pee. Sheesh. Pee and pee, and pee

some more. I went to a school that morning where I was maintenance.

The people there said that I looked up awful (no jokes, more awful than

normal). Made me go see the nurse. She thought I looked dehydrated,

especially when I told her about all the bathroom stuff. I lost 8 pounds

of weight in one night. Reckon that was most of the water that was

available in me. People there sent me home.

 

Some years later, I read the same formula in another herbal

(I collect them). This one said to take one teaspoon of the diffusion

every hour. It helps to burn fat. So, obviously I very seriously

overdosed, or had an allergic reaction to the massive dose. So, yep,

you’re right. Doses are important.

 

 

 

ed

 

 

[Guest guest]

Ed 'diffusion every hour' explain. I am slow. Sorry.

 

--- Shiree1000 wrote:

 

> Ed

>

> I have used black walnut tincture, wormwood

> capsules, and pure cinnamon

> capsules for an intestinal cleanse once, recommended

> by

> Dr. Hulda Clark. It lasted one month and I lost

> weight without trying,

> cured whatever ailed me at the time, and I put my

> cats on it also (as

> she recommends to deparasite) after giving them

> parsley water for

> a week to tone the kidneys. At the time, I had bad

> gastro reflux and

> you wouldn't think I could handle the cinnamon

> capsules and the

> wormwood, but it didn't bother me..

>

> Lor

>

>

> > I know about cherry pits. I’ve

> cracked open peach pits and eaten

> > them as well. Not quite the same quantity, even

> though they are larger, as

> > the cherry pits. And then I eat the whole apple

> most of the time. When they

> > are in season. Only time I like apples. Fresh.

> I’ve not seen an animal die

> > from eating the leaves of these various trees.

> Just other people vouching

> > for that one. And, I don’t want to see one of

> my animals die from eating the

> > leaves either. Wilted leaves that is.

> >

> > If I thought that I had a parasite problem, I

> would eat a tea, or some

> > brew, with black walnut in it. I’d have to know

> more about it though and how

> > much. I remember reading an herbal by Culpeper 20

> years ago. He wrote about

> > fennel seed and its use in losing weight. Steep a

> teaspoon of fennel into a

> > cup of hot water (having boiled it) and then drink

> it. I did so. I did that

> > at about 10pm. Went to sleep. Was married then.

> I woke up, and woke her up

> > too, about 1:30am shivering, really shivering.

> Ended up with electric

> > blanket on high and some other blankets on as

> well. Took awhile but went back to

> > sleep, when warm again. Then I woke up to pee.

> Sheesh. Pee and pee, and pee

> > some more. I went to a school that morning where

> I was maintenance. The

> > people there said that I looked up awful (no

> jokes, more awful than normal).

> > Made me go see the nurse. She thought I looked

> dehydrated, especially when I

> > told her about all the bathroom stuff. I lost 8

> pounds of weight in one

> > night. Reckon that was most of the water that was

> available in me. People there

> > sent me home.

> >

> > Some years later, I read the same formula in

> another herbal (I collect

> > them). This one said to take one teaspoon of the

> diffusion every hour. It helps

> > to burn fat. So, obviously I very seriously

> overdosed, or had an allergic

> > reaction to the massive dose. So, yep, you’re

> right. Doses are important.

> >

> >

> >

> > ed

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

There are certain varieties of seeds you

can ask for. I don’t know whether or not this applies to the apricot or not.

In reading I remember that some seeds are richer in b17 than those grown in

other locales. So, I sort of think that it is true.

I just ordered seed for my garden. All

heritage varieties. The seed company had hybrids and GMO types available as

well. All clearly labeled. Might just as well not eat as eat the gmo stuff. I’ve

heard reported that animals won’t eat it when its put in front of them. Good

old Monsanto, and others, would like to have everything coming from them in a

patentable form.

 

ed

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Shiree1000

Thursday, March 16, 2006

6:34 PM

 

Re:

Re: feeding animals to animals

 

 

Ahh..dried apricots I can see. You're probably right on, once you get the

hard hull off the pit of an apricot, it could be softer inside. I wonder if all

these fruits are now genetically engineered...that would probably destroy any

good that was present in the fruit or the pit, as the pit is the seed..and they

are commonly called " terminator seeds " , because they don't reproduce.

 

 

 

 

 

I’ve

only had dried apricots. But I think that one cracks open the main part

that is harder than a rock, like a nut. Then takes out the meat

inside. Like I did with the peach pits when I think of it. The

peach pits I remember for not being bitter either. Those apricot pits are

almost as big as a golf ball I think, when surrounded by their hull at

least. Imagine trying to swallow that.

[Guest guest]

In the Culpeper herbal he instructed to

use a teaspoon of fennel.  Pour a cup of boiling water on it.  Steep it 20 minutes

thereabouts.  Thus making an infusion.  Then he said to drink it.  I drank the

whole cup.  Pleasant enough, as, it tastes like licorice.  Well, so long as you

like licorice. 

  The other herbal I later read had the

same instructions for the making of the infusion (tea).  But this person had

said that you only drink a teaspoon of the cup each hour, and not the entire

cup.  Culpeper might have intended that, but did not say so. 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Joseph Toman

Thursday, March 16, 2006

6:42 PM

 

Re:

Re: feeding animals to animals

 

 

Ed 'diffusion every hour'

explain. I am slow. Sorry.

 

--- Shiree1000 wrote:

 

> Ed

>

> I have used black walnut tincture, wormwood

> capsules, and pure cinnamon

> capsules for an intestinal cleanse once,

recommended

> by

> Dr. Hulda Clark. It lasted one month and I

lost

> weight without trying,

> cured whatever ailed me at the time, and I

put my

> cats on it also (as

> she recommends to deparasite) after giving

them

> parsley water for

> a week to tone the kidneys. At the time, I

had bad

> gastro reflux and

> you wouldn't think I could handle the

cinnamon

> capsules and the

> wormwood, but it didn't bother me..

>

> Lor

>

>

>

> I know about

cherry pits. I’ve

> cracked open peach pits and eaten

> > them as well. Not quite the same

quantity, even

> though they are larger, as

> > the cherry pits. And then I eat

the whole apple

> most of the time. When they

> > are in season. Only time I like

apples. Fresh.

> I’ve not seen an animal die

> > from eating the leaves of these various

trees.

> Just other people vouching

> > for that one. And, I

don’t want to see one of

> my animals die from eating the

> > leaves either. Wilted leaves that

is.

> >

> > If I thought that I had a parasite

problem, I

> would eat a tea, or some

> > brew, with black walnut in it.

I’d have to know

> more about it though and how

> > much. I remember reading an herbal

by Culpeper 20

> years ago. He wrote about

> > fennel seed and its use in losing

weight. Steep a

> teaspoon of fennel into a

> > cup of hot water (having boiled it) and

then drink

> it. I did so. I did that

> > at about 10pm. Went to

sleep. Was married then.

> I woke up, and woke her up

> > too, about 1:30am shivering, really

shivering.

> Ended up with electric

> > blanket on high and some other blankets

on as

> well. Took awhile but went back to

> > sleep, when warm again. Then I

woke up to pee.

> Sheesh. Pee and pee, and pee

> > some more. I went to a school that

morning where

> I was maintenance. The

> > people there said that I looked up awful

(no

> jokes, more awful than normal).

> > Made me go see the nurse. She

thought I looked

> dehydrated, especially when I

> > told her about all the bathroom

stuff. I lost 8

> pounds of weight in one

> > night. Reckon that was most of the

water that was

> available in me. People there

> > sent me home.

> >

> > Some years later, I read the same

formula in

> another herbal (I collect

> > them). This one said to take one

teaspoon of the

> diffusion every hour. It helps

> > to burn fat. So, obviously I very

seriously

> overdosed, or had an allergic

> > reaction to the massive dose. So,

yep, you’re

> right. Doses are important.

> >

> >

> >

> > ed

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Every hour SEEMS right, as your body will just throw

off what it cannot use if you take too much at one

time. Thanks for the information. I appreciate it.

 

--- Ed Siceloff <siceloff wrote:

 

>

> In the Culpeper herbal he instructed to use a

> teaspoon of fennel. Pour a cup of boiling water on

> it. Steep it 20 minutes thereabouts. Thus making

> an infusion. Then he said to drink it. I drank the

> whole cup. Pleasant enough, as, it tastes like

> licorice. Well, so long as you like licorice.

>

> The other herbal I later read had the same

> instructions for the making of the infusion (tea).

> But this person had said that you only drink a

> teaspoon of the cup each hour, and not the entire

> cup. Culpeper might have intended that, but did not

> say so.

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

> On

> Behalf Of Joseph Toman

> Thursday, March 16, 2006 6:42 PM

>

> Re: Re: feeding

> animals to animals

>

>

>

> Ed 'diffusion every hour' explain. I am slow.

> Sorry.

>

> --- Shiree1000 wrote:

>

> > Ed

> >

> > I have used black walnut tincture, wormwood

> > capsules, and pure cinnamon

> > capsules for an intestinal cleanse once,

> recommended

> > by

> > Dr. Hulda Clark. It lasted one month and I lost

> > weight without trying,

> > cured whatever ailed me at the time, and I put my

> > cats on it also (as

> > she recommends to deparasite) after giving them

> > parsley water for

> > a week to tone the kidneys. At the time, I had bad

> > gastro reflux and

> > you wouldn't think I could handle the cinnamon

> > capsules and the

> > wormwood, but it didn't bother me..

> >

> > Lor

> >

> >

> > > I know about cherry pits. I’ve

> > cracked open peach pits and eaten

> > > them as well. Not quite the same quantity, even

> > though they are larger, as

> > > the cherry pits. And then I eat the whole apple

> > most of the time. When they

> > > are in season. Only time I like apples. Fresh.

> > I’ve not seen an animal die

> > > from eating the leaves of these various trees.

> > Just other people vouching

> > > for that one. And, I don’t want to see

> one of

> > my animals die from eating the

> > > leaves either. Wilted leaves that is.

> > >

> > > If I thought that I had a parasite problem, I

> > would eat a tea, or some

> > > brew, with black walnut in it. I’d have

> to know

> > more about it though and how

> > > much. I remember reading an herbal by Culpeper

> 20

> > years ago. He wrote about

> > > fennel seed and its use in losing weight. Steep

> a

> > teaspoon of fennel into a

> > > cup of hot water (having boiled it) and then

> drink

> > it. I did so. I did that

> > > at about 10pm. Went to sleep. Was married

> then.

> > I woke up, and woke her up

> > > too, about 1:30am shivering, really shivering.

> > Ended up with electric

> > > blanket on high and some other blankets on as

> > well. Took awhile but went back to

> > > sleep, when warm again. Then I woke up to pee.

> > Sheesh. Pee and pee, and pee

> > > some more. I went to a school that morning

> where

> > I was maintenance. The

> > > people there said that I looked up awful (no

> > jokes, more awful than normal).

> > > Made me go see the nurse. She thought I looked

> > dehydrated, especially when I

> > > told her about all the bathroom stuff. I lost 8

> > pounds of weight in one

> > > night. Reckon that was most of the water that

> was

> > available in me. People there

> > > sent me home.

> > >

> > > Some years later, I read the same formula in

> > another herbal (I collect

> > > them). This one said to take one teaspoon of

> the

> > diffusion every hour. It helps

> > > to burn fat. So, obviously I very seriously

> > overdosed, or had an allergic

> > > reaction to the massive dose. So, yep,

> you’re

> > right. Doses are important.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ed

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

Thank you for your understanding. I did alternative

treatments and then it was too late.

 

Most just think I am looking for pity. I am not. I

know I did what I could but one still feels bad when

the one you love dies in your arms, and you see their

last dying breath. Not sure how to deal with it even

yet. Life is a tradgedy,(sp) we all live through it

for our learning. I don't even want to watch movies

of those that have lost their children or spouses.

But then, that is just me, I guess. Just watched

'WALK the LINE', and I can certainly relate.

Especially in the beginning as a kid.

 

Need to go in tomorrow and get put under and I don't

have good feelings about it. But perhaps my next life

I can be a mountain mover. This time it sucks.

 

Sorry to all you that just want good feelings.

 

--- Shiree1000 wrote:

 

> Joe,

>

> I'm sure you wish you could have talked her into an

> alternative treatment,

> but some people just can't be...try not to beat

> yourself up on it. Too many

> trust their Dr's and are loyal to them..even when

> those Dr's don't give them

> any options...they give them chemo and or

> radiation..no other choices..and

> insurance companies don't either. I wish we all

> could find a good naturopathic

> Dr. and afford one, but they are getting really hard

> to find, even if one could

> afford it or just took the money somehow to do it.

> I'm sorry about your

> wife...it's sad. My dad died from a cancer also and

> never was told he even had it

> for 6 years!

>

> Lor

>

> > Lor, how much I understand. My wife died

> needlessly

> > because of cancer. After ten years. I still have

> a

> > guilt complex. I really should have forced her.

> No

> > one could feel as bad as me...

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

You seem un sincere? probabaly it is just me. Do YOU

take any black walnut or wormwood?

 

Do you believe we need to go to medical ama doctors?

Or not...

 

Sorry, just still suspicious.

 

Do you take poke root and wormwood or not. Or are you

one of them.

 

Sure this will get me banned.

 

--- Shiree1000 wrote:

 

> I just sprinkled a very small amt of each capsule

> on their dry food...and

> put the black walnut tincture on their food too, but

> it was all directed by the

> book I got that Dr Clark wrote...how to treat

> yourself and your pets. It's on

> her website though, or it used to be. My cats coats

> just shined within 2-3

> days of just the prep, which is the parsley

> water...a teaspoon every day on their

> food. They seemed to like that. She says not to use

> regular cinnamon spice as

> all spices contain preservatives and extra crap that

> isn't good to use.

>

> Cinnamon is supposed to be very good for diabetics.

> A lot of people are

> taking it now as a supplement.

>

> I am familiar with the Amazon herbs, but haven't

> purchased anything yet.

> >

> > Wormwood was the other herb I was trying

> to think of. Nobody was

> > mentioning it, but I was trying to remember what

> it was other than black

> > walnut. I was unfamiliar with cinnamon for

> parasites. I use a tea now from

> > Amazonherbs that is said to be good for parasites.

> It is a number of various

> > rainforest herbs. Its also a good tasting tea (to

> me anyways). I should do

> > this for my outside dogs, with the ingredients

> you’ve mentioned.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Funny, this post is right on!

 

--- Shiree1000 wrote:

 

> I just sprinkled a very small amt of each capsule

> on their dry food...and

> put the black walnut tincture on their food too, but

> it was all directed by the

> book I got that Dr Clark wrote...how to treat

> yourself and your pets. It's on

> her website though, or it used to be. My cats coats

> just shined within 2-3

> days of just the prep, which is the parsley

> water...a teaspoon every day on their

> food. They seemed to like that. She says not to use

> regular cinnamon spice as

> all spices contain preservatives and extra crap that

> isn't good to use.

>

> Cinnamon is supposed to be very good for diabetics.

> A lot of people are

> taking it now as a supplement.

>

> I am familiar with the Amazon herbs, but haven't

> purchased anything yet.

> >

> > Wormwood was the other herb I was trying

> to think of. Nobody was

> > mentioning it, but I was trying to remember what

> it was other than black

> > walnut. I was unfamiliar with cinnamon for

> parasites. I use a tea now from

> > Amazonherbs that is said to be good for parasites.

> It is a number of various

> > rainforest herbs. Its also a good tasting tea (to

> me anyways). I should do

> > this for my outside dogs, with the ingredients

> you’ve mentioned.

> >

> >

> >

>

>