feeding animals to animals

March 13, 2006

I understand on Coast there is still ground up chicken feces in feed,

and dead cows in feed. How come if we were supposed to stop this in

95, it is still happening?

March 14, 2006

, " missourinaturegirl "

<missourinaturegirl wrote:

>

> I understand on Coast there is still ground up chicken feces in feed,

> and dead cows in feed. How come if we were supposed to stop this in

> 95, it is still happening?

>

Big business in feeder cattle...do a search on feeder cattle, you'll

find lots and lots of hits relating to the stock market. As long as

there is money made off it, it isn't going away. Good reason to go to

natural, free-range beef.

Besides, in my opinion there is no way to avoid exposure to mad cow.

The prions only are destroyed at something like 800 degrees F. At

that temperature everything around the prion is already ash. That

means if you eat in a kitchen that has had beef prepared in it using

any surface, utinsels, pots or pans that have had contact with beef

you risk picking it up even if you do not eat beef. Same with

restaurants, even, probably, the air you breathe.

Here is an article talking about the origins of mad cow:

http://home.earthlink.net/~astrology/udder.htm

Kat

March 14, 2006

Well gees. Why pick on beef? Anything

that is commercially raised for meat has to grab your attention. I buy from a

mill that makes many of their own products. Just to be a little more sure

about what I am feeding the critters that I eat (mostly eggs from chickens). There

is pretty much only “good” ingredients in it. But, to be sure,

from what the research states, prions actually have what I would say “eternal

life” ascribed to them. You give commercial feed to your animals, that

has animal carcass in it, that is infected with the various spongeiform

diseases, you can be infected by putting it on the soil you grow your garden

in. That is supposedly one of the ways that deer and elk get infected with

it. But, I remember reading some things stating that particular immune systems

can handle these things as well. Otherwise, we’d probably all be already

sick with, what, mad human?

I know people who follow Kosher laws who

won’t eat out because the restaurant serves bacon in the morning. Too

much risk in it for them. Pig gets all over everything.

Another thought would be that the prions

last on from the animal carcass all the way to a gelatin capsule that is made

from animal source. You get it with your vitamins and herbs.

Ed

On Behalf Of mike man

Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:44

PM

Re:

Re: feeding animals to animals

" That

means if you eat in a kitchen that has had beef

prepared in it using

any surface, utinsels, pots or pans that have had

contact with beef

you risk picking it up even if you do not eat

beef.

Same with

restaurants, even, probably, the air you

breathe. "

And let us not forget that the beef industry sells

the

carcass and bones to companies that turn it into

fertilizer used to grow vegetables and soap used

to

was one's skin with.

--- Kat <js_kat wrote:

> ,

> " missourinaturegirl "

> <missourinaturegirl wrote:

> >

> > I understand on Coast there is still

ground up

> chicken feces in feed,

> > and dead cows in feed. How come if

we were

> supposed to stop this in

> > 95, it is still happening?

> >

> Big business in feeder cattle...do a search

on

> feeder cattle, you'll

> find lots and lots of hits relating to the

stock

> market. As long as

> there is money made off it, it isn't going

away.

> Good reason to go to

> natural, free-range beef.

>

> Besides, in my opinion there is no way to

avoid

> exposure to mad cow.

> The prions only are destroyed at something

like 800

> degrees F. At

> that temperature everything around the prion

is

> already ash. That

> means if you eat in a kitchen that has had

beef

> prepared in it using

> any surface, utinsels, pots or pans that have

had

> contact with beef

> you risk picking it up even if you do not eat

beef.

> Same with

> restaurants, even, probably, the air you

breathe.

>

> Here is an article talking about the origins

of mad

> cow:

> http://home.earthlink.net/~astrology/udder.htm

>

> Kat

>

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March 14, 2006

thats rediculous.

god says we can eat it Im gonna eat it.

especially if Im starving and there is nothing else on my plate.

-

" mike man " <mgsboediitodpc

Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:21 PM

RE: Re: feeding animals to animals

> " I know people who follow Kosher laws who won't eat

> out because the restaurant serves bacon in the

> morning. "

>

> They eat out just at approved restaruants.

>

> --- Ed Siceloff <siceloff wrote:

>

>>

>> Well gees. Why pick on beef? Anything that is

>> commercially raised for meat

>> has to grab your attention. I buy from a mill that

>> makes many of their own

>> products. Just to be a little more sure about what

>> I am feeding the

>> critters that I eat (mostly eggs from chickens).

>> There is pretty much only

>> " good " ingredients in it. But, to be sure, from

>> what the research states,

>> prions actually have what I would say " eternal life "

>> ascribed to them. You

>> give commercial feed to your animals, that has

>> animal carcass in it, that is

>> infected with the various spongeiform diseases, you

>> can be infected by

>> putting it on the soil you grow your garden in.

>> That is supposedly one of

>> the ways that deer and elk get infected with it.

>> But, I remember reading

>> some things stating that particular immune systems

>> can handle these things

>> as well. Otherwise, we'd probably all be already

>> sick with, what, mad

>> human?

>>

>> I know people who follow Kosher laws who won't eat

>> out because the

>> restaurant serves bacon in the morning. Too much

>> risk in it for them. Pig

>> gets all over everything.

>>

>> Another thought would be that the prions last on

>> from the animal carcass

>> all the way to a gelatin capsule that is made from

>> animal source. You get

>> it with your vitamins and herbs.

>>

>> Ed

>>

>> _____

>>

>> On

>> Behalf Of mike man

>> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:44 PM

>>

>> Re: Re: feeding

>> animals to animals

>>

>> " That

>> means if you eat in a kitchen that has had beef

>> prepared in it using

>> any surface, utinsels, pots or pans that have had

>> contact with beef

>> you risk picking it up even if you do not eat beef.

>> Same with

>> restaurants, even, probably, the air you breathe. "

>>

>> And let us not forget that the beef industry sells

>> the

>> carcass and bones to companies that turn it into

>> fertilizer used to grow vegetables and soap used to

>> was one's skin with.

>>

>> --- Kat <js_kat wrote:

>>

>> > ,

>> > " missourinaturegirl "

>> > <missourinaturegirl wrote:

>> > >

>> > > I understand on Coast there is still ground up

>> > chicken feces in feed,

>> > > and dead cows in feed. How come if we were

>> > supposed to stop this in

>> > > 95, it is still happening?

>> > >

>> > Big business in feeder cattle...do a search on

>> > feeder cattle, you'll

>> > find lots and lots of hits relating to the stock

>> > market. As long as

>> > there is money made off it, it isn't going away.

>> > Good reason to go to

>> > natural, free-range beef.

>> >

>> > Besides, in my opinion there is no way to avoid

>> > exposure to mad cow.

>> > The prions only are destroyed at something like

>> 800

>> > degrees F. At

>> > that temperature everything around the prion is

>> > already ash. That

>> > means if you eat in a kitchen that has had beef

>> > prepared in it using

>> > any surface, utinsels, pots or pans that have had

>> > contact with beef

>> > you risk picking it up even if you do not eat

>> beef.

>> > Same with

>> > restaurants, even, probably, the air you breathe.

>>

>> >

>> > Here is an article talking about the origins of

>> mad

>> > cow:

>> > http://home.earthlink.net/~astrology/udder.htm

>> >

>> > Kat

>> >

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March 14, 2006

Well, good grief. Read last note to

Mike. I wasn’t commenting on the rightness or wrongness, or any judgment

on “kosher.” Just the principal behind why something has to be

kosher for them, and the whole process. Prions can be spread from a knife

cutting meat infected by it, and then going on to cut other meat. They are

spread by burying the carcass, spreading it once rotted, etc.etc. The point is

if it you are going to worry about it, what are you going to do about it. I

don’t think that any “god” ever said anything at all about

eating prions in any meat. So, I guess if you want to, you can. I don’t

really care.

Ed

On Behalf Of SHARON JAGGER

Tuesday, March 14, 2006 3:31

PM

Re:

Re: feeding animals to animals

thats rediculous.

god says we can eat it Im gonna eat it.

especially if Im starving and there is nothing

else on my plate.

-

" mike man "

<mgsboediitodpc

Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:21 PM

RE: Re: feeding

animals to animals

> " I know people who follow Kosher

laws who won't eat

> out because the restaurant serves bacon in

the

> morning. "

>

> They eat out just at approved restaruants.

>

> --- Ed Siceloff

<siceloff wrote:

>

>>

>> Well gees. Why pick on beef?

Anything that is

>> commercially raised for meat

>> has to grab your attention. I buy

from a mill that

>> makes many of their own

>> products. Just to be a little more

sure about what

>> I am feeding the

>> critters that I eat (mostly eggs from

chickens).

>> There is pretty much only

>> " good " ingredients in it.

But, to be sure, from

>> what the research states,

>> prions actually have what I would say

" eternal life "

>> ascribed to them. You

>> give commercial feed to your animals,

that has

>> animal carcass in it, that is

>> infected with the various spongeiform

diseases, you

>> can be infected by

>> putting it on the soil you grow your

garden in.

>> That is supposedly one of

>> the ways that deer and elk get infected

with it.

>> But, I remember reading

>> some things stating that particular

immune systems

>> can handle these things

>> as well. Otherwise, we'd probably

all be already

>> sick with, what, mad

>> human?

>>

>> I know people who follow

Kosher laws who won't eat

>> out because the

>> restaurant serves bacon in the

morning. Too much

>> risk in it for them. Pig

>> gets all over everything.

>>

>> Another thought would be that

the prions last on

>> from the animal carcass

>> all the way to a gelatin capsule that is

made from

>> animal source. You get

>> it with your vitamins and herbs.

>>

>> Ed

>>

>> _____

>>

On

>> Behalf Of mike man

>> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:44 PM

>>

>> Re: Re:

feeding

>> animals to animals

>>

>> " That

>> means if you eat in a kitchen that has

had beef

>> prepared in it using

>> any surface, utinsels, pots or pans that

have had

>> contact with beef

>> you risk picking it up even if you do not

eat beef.

>> Same with

>> restaurants, even, probably, the air you

breathe. "

>>

>> And let us not forget that the beef

industry sells

>> the

>> carcass and bones to companies that turn

it into

>> fertilizer used to grow vegetables and

soap used to

>> was one's skin with.

>>

>> --- Kat <js_kat wrote:

>>

>> > ,

>> > " missourinaturegirl "

>> > <missourinaturegirl

wrote:

>> > >

>> > > I understand on Coast there is

still ground up

>> > chicken feces in feed,

>> > > and dead cows in feed.

How come if we were

>> > supposed to stop this in

>> > > 95, it is still happening?

>> > >

>> > Big business in feeder cattle...do a

search on

>> > feeder cattle, you'll

>> > find lots and lots of hits relating

to the stock

>> > market. As long as

>> > there is money made off it, it isn't

going away.

>> > Good reason to go to

>> > natural, free-range beef.

>> >

>> > Besides, in my opinion there is no

way to avoid

>> > exposure to mad cow.

>> > The prions only are destroyed at

something like

>> 800

>> > degrees F. At

>> > that temperature everything around

the prion is

>> > already ash. That

>> > means if you eat in a kitchen that

has had beef

>> > prepared in it using

>> > any surface, utinsels, pots or pans

that have had

>> > contact with beef

>> > you risk picking it up even if you do

not eat

>> beef.

>> > Same with

>> > restaurants, even, probably, the air

you breathe.

>>

>> >

>> > Here is an article talking about the

origins of

>> mad

>> > cow:

>> > http://home.earthlink.net/~astrology/udder.htm

>> >

>> > Kat

>> >

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March 14, 2006

smile... that remark was not necessarily directed at you. sorry.

you are right of course.. it would be nice if the whole system was not so deteriorated that people didnt have to take the cheap way out.

-

Ed Siceloff

Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:43 PM

RE: Re: feeding animals to animals

Well, good grief. Read last note to Mike. I wasn’t commenting on the rightness or wrongness, or any judgment on “kosher.” Just the principal behind why something has to be kosher for them, and the whole process. Prions can be spread from a knife cutting meat infected by it, and then going on to cut other meat. They are spread by burying the carcass, spreading it once rotted, etc.etc. The point is if it you are going to worry about it, what are you going to do about it. I don’t think that any “god” ever said anything at all about eating prions in any meat. So, I guess if you want to, you can. I don’t really care.

Ed

On Behalf Of SHARON JAGGERTuesday, March 14, 2006 3:31 PM Subject: Re: Re: feeding animals to animals

thats rediculous.god says we can eat it Im gonna eat it.especially if Im starving and there is nothing else on my plate.- "mike man" <mgsboediitodpcTuesday, March 14, 2006 12:21 PMRE: Re: feeding animals to animals>" I know people who follow Kosher laws who won't eat> out because the restaurant serves bacon in the> morning.">> They eat out just at approved restaruants.>> --- Ed Siceloff <siceloff wrote:>>>>> Well gees. Why pick on beef? Anything that is>> commercially raised for meat>> has to grab your attention. I buy from a mill that>> makes many of their own>> products. Just to be a little more sure about what>> I am feeding the>> critters that I eat (mostly eggs from chickens).>> There is pretty much only>> "good" ingredients in it. But, to be sure, from>> what the research states,>> prions actually have what I would say "eternal life">> ascribed to them. You>> give commercial feed to your animals, that has>> animal carcass in it, that is>> infected with the various spongeiform diseases, you>> can be infected by>> putting it on the soil you grow your garden in.>> That is supposedly one of>> the ways that deer and elk get infected with it.>> But, I remember reading>> some things stating that particular immune systems>> can handle these things>> as well. Otherwise, we'd probably all be already>> sick with, what, mad>> human?>>>> I know people who follow Kosher laws who won't eat>> out because the>> restaurant serves bacon in the morning. Too much>> risk in it for them. Pig>> gets all over everything.>>>> Another thought would be that the prions last on>> from the animal carcass>> all the way to a gelatin capsule that is made from>> animal source. You get>> it with your vitamins and herbs.>>>>>>>> Ed>>>>>>>> _____>>>> >> On>> Behalf Of mike man>> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:44 PM>> >> Re: Re: feeding>> animals to animals>>>>>>>> "That>> means if you eat in a kitchen that has had beef>> prepared in it using>> any surface, utinsels, pots or pans that have had>> contact with beef>> you risk picking it up even if you do not eat beef.>> Same with>> restaurants, even, probably, the air you breathe.">>>> And let us not forget that the beef industry sells>> the>> carcass and bones to companies that turn it into>> fertilizer used to grow vegetables and soap used to>> was one's skin with.>>>> --- Kat <js_kat wrote:>>>> > ,>> > "missourinaturegirl">> > <missourinaturegirl wrote:>> > >>> > > I understand on Coast there is still ground up>> > chicken feces in feed,>> > > and dead cows in feed. How come if we were>> > supposed to stop this in>> > > 95, it is still happening?>> > >>> > Big business in feeder cattle...do a search on>> > feeder cattle, you'll>> > find lots and lots of hits relating to the stock>> > market. As long as>> > there is money made off it, it isn't going away.>> > Good reason to go to>> > natural, free-range beef.>> >>> > Besides, in my opinion there is no way to avoid>> > exposure to mad cow.>> > The prions only are destroyed at something like>> 800>> > degrees F. At>> > that temperature everything around the prion is>> > already ash. 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March 14, 2006

I don't understand how any of it could be going on. Did you see where the FDA is

going to make all farmers micochip all farm animals and keep an accurate record

of what animal goes where. Why is there such a big deal going on about

domesticated animals and their identity, when they let thousands of cows come

across our borders every day with only 5% being inspected?

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It's never going to be stopped as long as there is money to made from it. I

think Japan is wise to not import our beef.

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> and dead cows in feed. How come if we were supposed to stop this in

> 95, it is still happening?

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March 14, 2006

I remember sometime ago that they took out

a whole herd of deer that were sick with it in N. Michigan.

And at present, they are warning that we (American government) can not stop

bird flu from getting here because of wild bird migrations. And they want to

chip our animals. Its only a prelude to putting a chip into our bodies. Don’t

radio waves cause cancer? Look at the news about cell phones. Do you want a

cell phone in your body, even if away from your brain. What will it interfere

with? Do they have any idea? We need to be left alone to take care of

ourselves. Don’t need anybody else doing it for me. Thus far, I’ve

cared more about what happens to me than anybody I’ve met let alone

people who want to care for me that don’t even know me.

Ed

On Behalf Of bikerbillie

Tuesday, March 14, 2006 9:55

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Re:

feeding animals to animals

I don't understand how any of

it could be going on. Did you see where the FDA is

going to make all farmers micochip all farm

animals and keep an accurate record

of what animal goes where. Why is there such a big

deal going on about

domesticated animals and their identity, when they

let thousands of cows come

across our borders every day with only 5% being

inspected?

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They say (don't ask me who they are) kids now get asthma because they don't play in the dirt any more ........ sounds reasonable

Jane

-

Joseph Toman And if you cross the border you are open to all kindsof illnesses because your immune system is socompromised as to not to be able to ward off what thepeople there take daily in food.Seems we are so "clean" we cannot resist some simplegerms.

March 15, 2006

kids and or people get asthma and other diseases

becasue they dring to much milk and eat too much dairy

products - cheeze is a good one, as well as ice cream.

Look at not-milk site.

Playing in the dirt can give a kid worms and that is a

whole nother subject as to how many parasites we carry

around in our bodies and never cleanse them out,

causing cancer and all kinds of other diseases. Many

caused by make-up, body sprays, etc we NEED to be

clean and nice smelling??

--- Jane MacRoss <HIGHFIELD wrote:

> They say (don't ask me who they are) kids now get

> asthma because they don't play in the dirt any more

> ........ sounds reasonable

>

> Jane

> -

> Joseph Toman

> And if you cross the border you are open to all

> kinds

> of illnesses because your immune system is so

> compromised as to not to be able to ward off what

> the

> people there take daily in food.

>

> Seems we are so " clean " we cannot resist some

> simple

> germs.

>

March 15, 2006

" Just the principal behind why something has to be

kosher for them, and the whole process. "

just rules that some chose to follow that historically

has some interesting meaning like not partaking on

some other being's soul where blood represent some

other beings soul.

" Prions can be spread from a knife cutting meat

infected by it, and then going on to cut other meat.

They are spread by burying the carcass, spreading it

once rotted, etc.etc "

As I under stand it separate areas and tools are used

to prepare meats

--- Ed Siceloff <siceloff wrote:

>

> Well, I know that. My point was that the animal

> causing the infection gets

> all over everything. For Kosher people it is any

> unclean animal that is

> commercially provided for food. For other people,

> with the concern over

> spongeiform diseases, the same principle applies.

> The knife that cuts the

> meat spreads the disease.

>

> ed

>

> _____

>

> On

> Behalf Of mike man

> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 3:22 PM

>

> RE: Re: feeding

> animals to animals

>

> " I know people who follow Kosher laws who won’t

> eat

> out because the restaurant serves bacon in the

> morning. "

>

> They eat out just at approved restaruants.

>

> --- Ed Siceloff <siceloff wrote:

>

> >

> > Well gees. Why pick on beef? Anything that is

> > commercially raised for meat

> > has to grab your attention. I buy from a mill

> that

> > makes many of their own

> > products. Just to be a little more sure about

> what

> > I am feeding the

> > critters that I eat (mostly eggs from chickens).

> > There is pretty much only

> > “good” ingredients in it. But, to be sure, from

> > what the research states,

> > prions actually have what I would say “eternal

> life”

> > ascribed to them. You

> > give commercial feed to your animals, that has

> > animal carcass in it, that is

> > infected with the various spongeiform diseases,

> you

> > can be infected by

> > putting it on the soil you grow your garden in.

> > That is supposedly one of

> > the ways that deer and elk get infected with it.

> > But, I remember reading

> > some things stating that particular immune systems

> > can handle these things

> > as well. Otherwise, we’d probably all be already

> > sick with, what, mad

> > human?

> >

> > I know people who follow Kosher laws who won’t

> eat

> > out because the

> > restaurant serves bacon in the morning. Too much

> > risk in it for them. Pig

> > gets all over everything.

> >

> > Another thought would be that the prions last on

> > from the animal carcass

> > all the way to a gelatin capsule that is made from

> > animal source. You get

> > it with your vitamins and herbs.

> >

> > Ed

> >

> > _____

> >

> > On

> > Behalf Of mike man

> > Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:44 PM

> >

> > Re: Re: feeding

> > animals to animals

> >

> > " That

> > means if you eat in a kitchen that has had beef

> > prepared in it using

> > any surface, utinsels, pots or pans that have had

> > contact with beef

> > you risk picking it up even if you do not eat

> beef.

> > Same with

> > restaurants, even, probably, the air you breathe. "

> >

> > And let us not forget that the beef industry sells

> > the

> > carcass and bones to companies that turn it into

> > fertilizer used to grow vegetables and soap used

> to

> > was one's skin with.

> >

> > --- Kat <js_kat wrote:

> >

> > > ,

> > > " missourinaturegirl "

> > > <missourinaturegirl wrote:

> > > >

> > > > I understand on Coast there is still ground up

> > > chicken feces in feed,

> > > > and dead cows in feed. How come if we were

> > > supposed to stop this in

> > > > 95, it is still happening?

> > > >

> > > Big business in feeder cattle...do a search on

> > > feeder cattle, you'll

> > > find lots and lots of hits relating to the stock

> > > market. As long as

> > > there is money made off it, it isn't going away.

>

> > > Good reason to go to

> > > natural, free-range beef.

> > >

> > > Besides, in my opinion there is no way to avoid

> > > exposure to mad cow.

> > > The prions only are destroyed at something like

> > 800

> > > degrees F. At

> > > that temperature everything around the prion is

> > > already ash. That

> > > means if you eat in a kitchen that has had beef

> > > prepared in it using

> > > any surface, utinsels, pots or pans that have

> had

> > > contact with beef

> > > you risk picking it up even if you do not eat

> > beef.

> > > Same with

> > > restaurants, even, probably, the air you

> breathe.

> >

> > >

> > > Here is an article talking about the origins of

> > mad

> > > cow:

> > > http://home.earthlink.net/~astrology/udder.htm

> > >

> > > Kat

> > >

> >

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" god says we can eat it Im gonna eat it. "

Actually there are rules on what to eat and reasons

for those rules are well defined within various

religions which some follow strictly and not so

strictly

--- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger wrote:

> thats rediculous.

> god says we can eat it Im gonna eat it.

> especially if Im starving and there is nothing else

> on my plate.

>

> -

> " mike man " <mgsboediitodpc

>

> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:21 PM

> RE: Re: feeding

> animals to animals

>

> > " I know people who follow Kosher laws who won't

> eat

> > out because the restaurant serves bacon in the

> > morning. "

> >

> > They eat out just at approved restaruants.

> >

> > --- Ed Siceloff <siceloff wrote:

> >

> >>

> >> Well gees. Why pick on beef? Anything that is

> >> commercially raised for meat

> >> has to grab your attention. I buy from a mill

> that

> >> makes many of their own

> >> products. Just to be a little more sure about

> what

> >> I am feeding the

> >> critters that I eat (mostly eggs from chickens).

> >> There is pretty much only

> >> " good " ingredients in it. But, to be sure, from

> >> what the research states,

> >> prions actually have what I would say " eternal

> life "

> >> ascribed to them. You

> >> give commercial feed to your animals, that has

> >> animal carcass in it, that is

> >> infected with the various spongeiform diseases,

> you

> >> can be infected by

> >> putting it on the soil you grow your garden in.

> >> That is supposedly one of

> >> the ways that deer and elk get infected with it.

> >> But, I remember reading

> >> some things stating that particular immune

> systems

> >> can handle these things

> >> as well. Otherwise, we'd probably all be already

> >> sick with, what, mad

> >> human?

> >>

> >> I know people who follow Kosher laws who won't

> eat

> >> out because the

> >> restaurant serves bacon in the morning. Too much

> >> risk in it for them. Pig

> >> gets all over everything.

> >>

> >> Another thought would be that the prions last

> on

> >> from the animal carcass

> >> all the way to a gelatin capsule that is made

> from

> >> animal source. You get

> >> it with your vitamins and herbs.

> >>

> >> Ed

> >>

> >> _____

> >>

> >> On

> >> Behalf Of mike man

> >> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:44 PM

> >>

> >> Re: Re: feeding

> >> animals to animals

> >>

> >> " That

> >> means if you eat in a kitchen that has had beef

> >> prepared in it using

> >> any surface, utinsels, pots or pans that have had

> >> contact with beef

> >> you risk picking it up even if you do not eat

> beef.

> >> Same with

> >> restaurants, even, probably, the air you

> breathe. "

> >>

> >> And let us not forget that the beef industry

> sells

> >> the

> >> carcass and bones to companies that turn it into

> >> fertilizer used to grow vegetables and soap used

> to

> >> was one's skin with.

> >>

> >> --- Kat <js_kat wrote:

> >>

> >> > ,

> >> > " missourinaturegirl "

> >> > <missourinaturegirl wrote:

> >> > >

> >> > > I understand on Coast there is still ground

> up

> >> > chicken feces in feed,

> >> > > and dead cows in feed. How come if we were

> >> > supposed to stop this in

> >> > > 95, it is still happening?

> >> > >

> >> > Big business in feeder cattle...do a search on

> >> > feeder cattle, you'll

> >> > find lots and lots of hits relating to the

> stock

> >> > market. As long as

> >> > there is money made off it, it isn't going

> away.

> >> > Good reason to go to

> >> > natural, free-range beef.

> >> >

> >> > Besides, in my opinion there is no way to avoid

> >> > exposure to mad cow.

> >> > The prions only are destroyed at something like

> >> 800

> >> > degrees F. At

> >> > that temperature everything around the prion is

> >> > already ash. That

> >> > means if you eat in a kitchen that has had beef

> >> > prepared in it using

> >> > any surface, utinsels, pots or pans that have

> had

> >> > contact with beef

> >> > you risk picking it up even if you do not eat

> >> beef.

> >> > Same with

> >> > restaurants, even, probably, the air you

> breathe.

> >>

> >> >

> >> > Here is an article talking about the origins of

> >> mad

> >> > cow:

> >> > http://home.earthlink.net/~astrology/udder.htm

> >> >

> >> > Kat

> >> >

> >>

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yes I know.. and Im not that much of a fanatic anyway.

I just eat what tastes good and I can afford. if healthy fits in those

criteria fine... I will try to eat healthy, but if it tastes like crap I

would rather go hungry... Im too fat anyway.

-

" mike man " <mgsboediitodpc

Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:55 AM

Re: Re: feeding animals to animals

> " god says we can eat it Im gonna eat it. "

> Actually there are rules on what to eat and reasons

> for those rules are well defined within various

> religions which some follow strictly and not so

> strictly

>

> --- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger wrote:

>

>> thats rediculous.

>> god says we can eat it Im gonna eat it.

>> especially if Im starving and there is nothing else

>> on my plate.

>>

>> -

>> " mike man " <mgsboediitodpc

>>

>> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:21 PM

>> RE: Re: feeding

>> animals to animals

>>

>> > " I know people who follow Kosher laws who won't

>> eat

>> > out because the restaurant serves bacon in the

>> > morning. "

>> >

>> > They eat out just at approved restaruants.

>> >

>> > --- Ed Siceloff <siceloff wrote:

>> >

>> >>

>> >> Well gees. Why pick on beef? Anything that is

>> >> commercially raised for meat

>> >> has to grab your attention. I buy from a mill

>> that

>> >> makes many of their own

>> >> products. Just to be a little more sure about

>> what

>> >> I am feeding the

>> >> critters that I eat (mostly eggs from chickens).

>> >> There is pretty much only

>> >> " good " ingredients in it. But, to be sure, from

>> >> what the research states,

>> >> prions actually have what I would say " eternal

>> life "

>> >> ascribed to them. You

>> >> give commercial feed to your animals, that has

>> >> animal carcass in it, that is

>> >> infected with the various spongeiform diseases,

>> you

>> >> can be infected by

>> >> putting it on the soil you grow your garden in.

>> >> That is supposedly one of

>> >> the ways that deer and elk get infected with it.

>> >> But, I remember reading

>> >> some things stating that particular immune

>> systems

>> >> can handle these things

>> >> as well. Otherwise, we'd probably all be already

>> >> sick with, what, mad

>> >> human?

>> >>

>> >> I know people who follow Kosher laws who won't

>> eat

>> >> out because the

>> >> restaurant serves bacon in the morning. Too much

>> >> risk in it for them. Pig

>> >> gets all over everything.

>> >>

>> >> Another thought would be that the prions last

>> on

>> >> from the animal carcass

>> >> all the way to a gelatin capsule that is made

>> from

>> >> animal source. You get

>> >> it with your vitamins and herbs.

>> >>

>> >> Ed

>> >>

>> >> _____

>> >>

>> >> On

>> >> Behalf Of mike man

>> >> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:44 PM

>> >>

>> >> Re: Re: feeding

>> >> animals to animals

>> >>

>> >> " That

>> >> means if you eat in a kitchen that has had beef

>> >> prepared in it using

>> >> any surface, utinsels, pots or pans that have had

>> >> contact with beef

>> >> you risk picking it up even if you do not eat

>> beef.

>> >> Same with

>> >> restaurants, even, probably, the air you

>> breathe. "

>> >>

>> >> And let us not forget that the beef industry

>> sells

>> >> the

>> >> carcass and bones to companies that turn it into

>> >> fertilizer used to grow vegetables and soap used

>> to

>> >> was one's skin with.

>> >>

>> >> --- Kat <js_kat wrote:

>> >>

>> >> > ,

>> >> > " missourinaturegirl "

>> >> > <missourinaturegirl wrote:

>> >> > >

>> >> > > I understand on Coast there is still ground

>> up

>> >> > chicken feces in feed,

>> >> > > and dead cows in feed. How come if we were

>> >> > supposed to stop this in

>> >> > > 95, it is still happening?

>> >> > >

>> >> > Big business in feeder cattle...do a search on

>> >> > feeder cattle, you'll

>> >> > find lots and lots of hits relating to the

>> stock

>> >> > market. As long as

>> >> > there is money made off it, it isn't going

>> away.

>> >> > Good reason to go to

>> >> > natural, free-range beef.

>> >> >

>> >> > Besides, in my opinion there is no way to avoid

>> >> > exposure to mad cow.

>> >> > The prions only are destroyed at something like

>> >> 800

>> >> > degrees F. At

>> >> > that temperature everything around the prion is

>> >> > already ash. That

>> >> > means if you eat in a kitchen that has had beef

>> >> > prepared in it using

>> >> > any surface, utinsels, pots or pans that have

>> had

>> >> > contact with beef

>> >> > you risk picking it up even if you do not eat

>> >> beef.

>> >> > Same with

>> >> > restaurants, even, probably, the air you

>> breathe.

>> >>

>> >> >

>> >> > Here is an article talking about the origins of

>> >> mad

>> >> > cow:

>> >> > http://home.earthlink.net/~astrology/udder.htm

>> >> >

>> >> > Kat

>> >> >

>> >>

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" what tastes good and "

So you have not yet learned to eat what is good for

you? You want to eat the raw fruit and vegetables

eating them at the momment when the flesh is broken

to get the most out of the food. Processed foods are

no good. Tell us what did you eat today that tasted

good?

--- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger wrote:

> yes I know.. and Im not that much of a fanatic

> anyway.

> I just eat what tastes good and I can afford. if

> healthy fits in those

> criteria fine... I will try to eat healthy, but if

> it tastes like crap I

> would rather go hungry... Im too fat anyway.

>

> -

> " mike man " <mgsboediitodpc

>

> Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:55 AM

> Re: Re: feeding

> animals to animals

>

> > " god says we can eat it Im gonna eat it. "

> > Actually there are rules on what to eat and

> reasons

> > for those rules are well defined within various

> > religions which some follow strictly and not so

> > strictly

> >

> > --- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger

> wrote:

> >

> >> thats rediculous.

> >> god says we can eat it Im gonna eat it.

> >> especially if Im starving and there is nothing

> else

> >> on my plate.

> >>

> >> -

> >> " mike man " <mgsboediitodpc

> >>

> >> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:21 PM

> >> RE: Re: feeding

> >> animals to animals

> >>

> >> > " I know people who follow Kosher laws who

> won't

> >> eat

> >> > out because the restaurant serves bacon in the

> >> > morning. "

> >> >

> >> > They eat out just at approved restaruants.

> >> >

> >> > --- Ed Siceloff <siceloff wrote:

> >> >

> >> >>

> >> >> Well gees. Why pick on beef? Anything that

> is

> >> >> commercially raised for meat

> >> >> has to grab your attention. I buy from a mill

> >> that

> >> >> makes many of their own

> >> >> products. Just to be a little more sure about

> >> what

> >> >> I am feeding the

> >> >> critters that I eat (mostly eggs from

> chickens).

> >> >> There is pretty much only

> >> >> " good " ingredients in it. But, to be sure,

> from

> >> >> what the research states,

> >> >> prions actually have what I would say " eternal

> >> life "

> >> >> ascribed to them. You

> >> >> give commercial feed to your animals, that has

> >> >> animal carcass in it, that is

> >> >> infected with the various spongeiform

> diseases,

> >> you

> >> >> can be infected by

> >> >> putting it on the soil you grow your garden

> in.

> >> >> That is supposedly one of

> >> >> the ways that deer and elk get infected with

> it.

> >> >> But, I remember reading

> >> >> some things stating that particular immune

> >> systems

> >> >> can handle these things

> >> >> as well. Otherwise, we'd probably all be

> already

> >> >> sick with, what, mad

> >> >> human?

> >> >>

> >> >> I know people who follow Kosher laws who

> won't

> >> eat

> >> >> out because the

> >> >> restaurant serves bacon in the morning. Too

> much

> >> >> risk in it for them. Pig

> >> >> gets all over everything.

> >> >>

> >> >> Another thought would be that the prions

> last

> >> on

> >> >> from the animal carcass

> >> >> all the way to a gelatin capsule that is made

> >> from

> >> >> animal source. You get

> >> >> it with your vitamins and herbs.

> >> >>

> >> >> Ed

> >> >>

> >> >> _____

> >> >>

> >> >> On

> >> >> Behalf Of mike man

> >> >> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:44 PM

> >> >>

> >> >> Re: Re: feeding

> >> >> animals to animals

> >> >>

> >> >> " That

> >> >> means if you eat in a kitchen that has had

> beef

> >> >> prepared in it using

> >> >> any surface, utinsels, pots or pans that have

> had

> >> >> contact with beef

> >> >> you risk picking it up even if you do not eat

> >> beef.

> >> >> Same with

> >> >> restaurants, even, probably, the air you

> >> breathe. "

> >> >>

> >> >> And let us not forget that the beef industry

> >> sells

> >> >> the

> >> >> carcass and bones to companies that turn it

> into

> >> >> fertilizer used to grow vegetables and soap

> used

> >> to

> >> >> was one's skin with.

> >> >>

> >> >> --- Kat <js_kat wrote:

> >> >>

> >> >> > ,

> >> >> > " missourinaturegirl "

> >> >> > <missourinaturegirl wrote:

> >> >> > >

> >> >> > > I understand on Coast there is still

> ground

> >> up

> >> >> > chicken feces in feed,

> >> >> > > and dead cows in feed. How come if we

> were

> >> >> > supposed to stop this in

> >> >> > > 95, it is still happening?

> >> >> > >

> >> >> > Big business in feeder cattle...do a search

> on

> >> >> > feeder cattle, you'll

> >> >> > find lots and lots of hits relating to the

> >> stock

> >> >> > market. As long as

> >> >> > there is money made off it, it isn't going

> >> away.

> >> >> > Good reason to go to

> >> >> > natural, free-range beef.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Besides, in my opinion there is no way to

> avoid

> >> >> > exposure to mad cow.

> >> >> > The prions only are destroyed at something

> like

> >> >> 800

> >> >> > degrees F. At

> >> >> > that temperature everything around the prion

> is

> >> >> > already ash. That

> >> >> > means if you eat in a kitchen that has had

> beef

> >> >> > prepared in it using

> >> >> > any surface, utinsels, pots or pans that

> have

> >> had

> >> >> > contact with beef

> >> >> > you risk picking it up even if you do not

> eat

> >> >> beef.

> >> >> > Same with

> >> >> > restaurants, even, probably, the air you

> >> breathe.

> >> >>

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Here is an article talking about the origins

> of

>

=== message truncated ===

March 15, 2006

I havent eaten anything yet today other than 2 cups of coffee.

I ususally only eat once a day unless I am working.

last night I had salmon filets ( frozen from costco)

and a baked potato with real butter.

-

" mike man " <mgsboediitodpc

Wednesday, March 15, 2006 1:34 PM

Re: Re: feeding animals to animals

> " what tastes good and "

> So you have not yet learned to eat what is good for

> you? You want to eat the raw fruit and vegetables

> eating them at the momment when the flesh is broken

> to get the most out of the food. Processed foods are

> no good. Tell us what did you eat today that tasted

> good?

>

> --- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger wrote:

>

>> yes I know.. and Im not that much of a fanatic

>> anyway.

>> I just eat what tastes good and I can afford. if

>> healthy fits in those

>> criteria fine... I will try to eat healthy, but if

>> it tastes like crap I

>> would rather go hungry... Im too fat anyway.

>>

>> -

>> " mike man " <mgsboediitodpc

>>

>> Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:55 AM

>> Re: Re: feeding

>> animals to animals

>>

>> > " god says we can eat it Im gonna eat it. "

>> > Actually there are rules on what to eat and

>> reasons

>> > for those rules are well defined within various

>> > religions which some follow strictly and not so

>> > strictly

>> >

>> > --- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger

>> wrote:

>> >

>> >> thats rediculous.

>> >> god says we can eat it Im gonna eat it.

>> >> especially if Im starving and there is nothing

>> else

>> >> on my plate.

>> >>

>> >> -

>> >> " mike man " <mgsboediitodpc

>> >>

>> >> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:21 PM

>> >> RE: Re: feeding

>> >> animals to animals

>> >>

>> >> > " I know people who follow Kosher laws who

>> won't

>> >> eat

>> >> > out because the restaurant serves bacon in the

>> >> > morning. "

>> >> >

>> >> > They eat out just at approved restaruants.

>> >> >

>> >> > --- Ed Siceloff <siceloff wrote:

>> >> >

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Well gees. Why pick on beef? Anything that

>> is

>> >> >> commercially raised for meat

>> >> >> has to grab your attention. I buy from a mill

>> >> that

>> >> >> makes many of their own

>> >> >> products. Just to be a little more sure about

>> >> what

>> >> >> I am feeding the

>> >> >> critters that I eat (mostly eggs from

>> chickens).

>> >> >> There is pretty much only

>> >> >> " good " ingredients in it. But, to be sure,

>> from

>> >> >> what the research states,

>> >> >> prions actually have what I would say " eternal

>> >> life "

>> >> >> ascribed to them. You

>> >> >> give commercial feed to your animals, that has

>> >> >> animal carcass in it, that is

>> >> >> infected with the various spongeiform

>> diseases,

>> >> you

>> >> >> can be infected by

>> >> >> putting it on the soil you grow your garden

>> in.

>> >> >> That is supposedly one of

>> >> >> the ways that deer and elk get infected with

>> it.

>> >> >> But, I remember reading

>> >> >> some things stating that particular immune

>> >> systems

>> >> >> can handle these things

>> >> >> as well. Otherwise, we'd probably all be

>> already

>> >> >> sick with, what, mad

>> >> >> human?

>> >> >>

>> >> >> I know people who follow Kosher laws who

>> won't

>> >> eat

>> >> >> out because the

>> >> >> restaurant serves bacon in the morning. Too

>> much

>> >> >> risk in it for them. Pig

>> >> >> gets all over everything.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Another thought would be that the prions

>> last

>> >> on

>> >> >> from the animal carcass

>> >> >> all the way to a gelatin capsule that is made

>> >> from

>> >> >> animal source. You get

>> >> >> it with your vitamins and herbs.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Ed

>> >> >>

>> >> >> _____

>> >> >>

>> >> >> On

>> >> >> Behalf Of mike man

>> >> >> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:44 PM

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Re: Re: feeding

>> >> >> animals to animals

>> >> >>

>> >> >> " That

>> >> >> means if you eat in a kitchen that has had

>> beef

>> >> >> prepared in it using

>> >> >> any surface, utinsels, pots or pans that have

>> had

>> >> >> contact with beef

>> >> >> you risk picking it up even if you do not eat

>> >> beef.

>> >> >> Same with

>> >> >> restaurants, even, probably, the air you

>> >> breathe. "

>> >> >>

>> >> >> And let us not forget that the beef industry

>> >> sells

>> >> >> the

>> >> >> carcass and bones to companies that turn it

>> into

>> >> >> fertilizer used to grow vegetables and soap

>> used

>> >> to

>> >> >> was one's skin with.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> --- Kat <js_kat wrote:

>> >> >>

>> >> >> > ,

>> >> >> > " missourinaturegirl "

>> >> >> > <missourinaturegirl wrote:

>> >> >> > >

>> >> >> > > I understand on Coast there is still

>> ground

>> >> up

>> >> >> > chicken feces in feed,

>> >> >> > > and dead cows in feed. How come if we

>> were

>> >> >> > supposed to stop this in

>> >> >> > > 95, it is still happening?

>> >> >> > >

>> >> >> > Big business in feeder cattle...do a search

>> on

>> >> >> > feeder cattle, you'll

>> >> >> > find lots and lots of hits relating to the

>> >> stock

>> >> >> > market. As long as

>> >> >> > there is money made off it, it isn't going

>> >> away.

>> >> >> > Good reason to go to

>> >> >> > natural, free-range beef.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > Besides, in my opinion there is no way to

>> avoid

>> >> >> > exposure to mad cow.

>> >> >> > The prions only are destroyed at something

>> like

>> >> >> 800

>> >> >> > degrees F. At

>> >> >> > that temperature everything around the prion

>> is

>> >> >> > already ash. That

>> >> >> > means if you eat in a kitchen that has had

>> beef

>> >> >> > prepared in it using

>> >> >> > any surface, utinsels, pots or pans that

>> have

>> >> had

>> >> >> > contact with beef

>> >> >> > you risk picking it up even if you do not

>> eat

>> >> >> beef.

>> >> >> > Same with

>> >> >> > restaurants, even, probably, the air you

>> >> breathe.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > Here is an article talking about the origins

>> of

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March 15, 2006

Well, costco must be good. At least it gets it out to

everyone and must be safe.

Actually, it really all comes down to money. Right.

And corporations have your best intersts at heart -

right.

I know they only sell good stuff and we need to go

deeper to see what they sell. Like Tyson who hid

drugs in their chickens some time ago - Sorry. I just

hate this world.

--- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger wrote:

> I havent eaten anything yet today other than 2 cups

> of coffee.

> I ususally only eat once a day unless I am working.

> last night I had salmon filets ( frozen from costco)

> and a baked potato with real butter.

>

> -

> " mike man " <mgsboediitodpc

>

> Wednesday, March 15, 2006 1:34 PM

> Re: Re: feeding

> animals to animals

>

> > " what tastes good and "

> > So you have not yet learned to eat what is good

> for

> > you? You want to eat the raw fruit and vegetables

> > eating them at the momment when the flesh is

> broken

> > to get the most out of the food. Processed foods

> are

> > no good. Tell us what did you eat today that

> tasted

> > good?

> >

> > --- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger

> wrote:

> >

> >> yes I know.. and Im not that much of a fanatic

> >> anyway.

> >> I just eat what tastes good and I can afford. if

> >> healthy fits in those

> >> criteria fine... I will try to eat healthy, but

> if

> >> it tastes like crap I

> >> would rather go hungry... Im too fat anyway.

> >>

> >> -

> >> " mike man " <mgsboediitodpc

> >>

> >> Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:55 AM

> >> Re: Re: feeding

> >> animals to animals

> >>

> >> > " god says we can eat it Im gonna eat it. "

> >> > Actually there are rules on what to eat and

> >> reasons

> >> > for those rules are well defined within various

> >> > religions which some follow strictly and not so

> >> > strictly

> >> >

> >> > --- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger

> >> wrote:

> >> >

> >> >> thats rediculous.

> >> >> god says we can eat it Im gonna eat it.

> >> >> especially if Im starving and there is nothing

> >> else

> >> >> on my plate.

> >> >>

> >> >> -

> >> >> " mike man " <mgsboediitodpc

> >> >>

> >> >> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:21 PM

> >> >> RE: Re: feeding

> >> >> animals to animals

> >> >>

> >> >> > " I know people who follow Kosher laws who

> >> won't

> >> >> eat

> >> >> > out because the restaurant serves bacon in

> the

> >> >> > morning. "

> >> >> >

> >> >> > They eat out just at approved restaruants.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > --- Ed Siceloff <siceloff

> wrote:

> >> >> >

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> Well gees. Why pick on beef? Anything

> that

> >> is

> >> >> >> commercially raised for meat

> >> >> >> has to grab your attention. I buy from a

> mill

> >> >> that

> >> >> >> makes many of their own

> >> >> >> products. Just to be a little more sure

> about

> >> >> what

> >> >> >> I am feeding the

> >> >> >> critters that I eat (mostly eggs from

> >> chickens).

> >> >> >> There is pretty much only

> >> >> >> " good " ingredients in it. But, to be sure,

> >> from

> >> >> >> what the research states,

> >> >> >> prions actually have what I would say

> " eternal

> >> >> life "

> >> >> >> ascribed to them. You

> >> >> >> give commercial feed to your animals, that

> has

> >> >> >> animal carcass in it, that is

> >> >> >> infected with the various spongeiform

> >> diseases,

> >> >> you

> >> >> >> can be infected by

> >> >> >> putting it on the soil you grow your garden

> >> in.

> >> >> >> That is supposedly one of

> >> >> >> the ways that deer and elk get infected

> with

> >> it.

> >> >> >> But, I remember reading

> >> >> >> some things stating that particular immune

> >> >> systems

> >> >> >> can handle these things

> >> >> >> as well. Otherwise, we'd probably all be

> >> already

> >> >> >> sick with, what, mad

> >> >> >> human?

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> I know people who follow Kosher laws who

> >> won't

> >> >> eat

> >> >> >> out because the

> >> >> >> restaurant serves bacon in the morning.

> Too

> >> much

> >> >> >> risk in it for them. Pig

> >> >> >> gets all over everything.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> Another thought would be that the prions

> >> last

> >> >> on

> >> >> >> from the animal carcass

> >> >> >> all the way to a gelatin capsule that is

> made

> >> >> from

> >> >> >> animal source. You get

> >> >> >> it with your vitamins and herbs.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> Ed

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> _____

> >> >> >>

> On

> >> >> >> Behalf Of mike man

> >> >> >> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:44 PM

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> Re: Re:

> feeding

> >> >> >> animals to animals

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> " That

> >> >> >> means if you eat in a kitchen that has had

> >> beef

> >> >> >> prepared in it using

> >> >> >> any surface, utinsels, pots or pans that

> have

> >> had

> >> >> >> contact with beef

> >> >> >> you risk picking it up even if you do not

> eat

> >> >> beef.

> >> >> >> Same with

> >> >> >> restaurants, even, probably, the air you

> >> >> breathe. "

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> And let us not forget that the beef

> industry

> >> >> sells

> >> >> >> the

> >> >> >> carcass and bones to companies that turn it

> >> into

> >> >> >> fertilizer used to grow vegetables and soap

> >> used

> >> >> to

> >> >> >> was one's skin with.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> --- Kat <js_kat wrote:

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> > --- In

> ,

> >> >> >> > " missourinaturegirl "

> >> >> >> > <missourinaturegirl wrote:

> >> >> >> > >

> >> >> >> > > I understand on Coast there is still

> >> ground

> >> >> up

> >> >> >> > chicken feces in feed,

> >> >> >> > > and dead cows in feed. How come if we

> >> were

> >> >> >> > supposed to stop this in

> >> >> >> > > 95, it is still happening?

> >> >> >> > >

> >> >> >> > Big business in feeder cattle...do a

> search

> >> on

> >> >> >> > feeder cattle, you'll

> >> >> >> > find lots and lots of hits relating to

> the

> >> >> stock

> >> >> >> > market. As long as

> >> >> >> > there is money made off it, it isn't

> going

> >> >> away.

> >> >> >> > Good reason to go to

> >> >> >> > natural, free-range beef.

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > Besides, in my opinion there is no way to

> >> avoid

> >> >> >> > exposure to mad cow.

> >> >> >> > The prions only are destroyed at

> something

> >> like

> >> >> >> 800

> >> >> >> > degrees F. At

> >> >> >> > that temperature everything around the

> prion

> >> is

> >> >> >> > already ash. That

> >> >> >> > means if you eat in a kitchen that has

> had

> >> beef

> >> >> >> > prepared in it using

> >> >> >> > any surface, utinsels, pots or pans that

> >> have

> >> >> had

> >> >> >> > contact with beef

> >> >> >> > you risk picking it up even if you do not

> >> eat

> >> >> >> beef.

> >> >> >> > Same with

> >> >> >> > restaurants, even, probably, the air you

> >> >> breathe.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > Here is an article talking about the

> origins

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March 15, 2006

Do you know how sweet hemlock tastes... Why not?

Perhaps because you know it is bad. And knowing that

you will not take it into your system. Do you know how

bad soda drinks are. if not why not? Do you

understand how bad mike is? Do you care? But it all

tastes good. So it must be okay.

Get a grip.

--- mike man <mgsboediitodpc wrote:

> " what tastes good and "

> So you have not yet learned to eat what is good for

> you? You want to eat the raw fruit and vegetables

> eating them at the momment when the flesh is broken

> to get the most out of the food. Processed foods

> are

> no good. Tell us what did you eat today that tasted

> good?

>

> --- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger wrote:

>

> > yes I know.. and Im not that much of a fanatic

> > anyway.

> > I just eat what tastes good and I can afford. if

> > healthy fits in those

> > criteria fine... I will try to eat healthy, but if

> > it tastes like crap I

> > would rather go hungry... Im too fat anyway.

> >

> > -

> > " mike man " <mgsboediitodpc

> >

> > Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:55 AM

> > Re: Re: feeding

> > animals to animals

> >

> > > " god says we can eat it Im gonna eat it. "

> > > Actually there are rules on what to eat and

> > reasons

> > > for those rules are well defined within various

> > > religions which some follow strictly and not so

> > > strictly

> > >

> > > --- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger

> > wrote:

> > >

> > >> thats rediculous.

> > >> god says we can eat it Im gonna eat it.

> > >> especially if Im starving and there is nothing

> > else

> > >> on my plate.

> > >>

> > >> -

> > >> " mike man " <mgsboediitodpc

> > >>

> > >> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:21 PM

> > >> RE: Re: feeding

> > >> animals to animals

> > >>

> > >> > " I know people who follow Kosher laws who

> > won't

> > >> eat

> > >> > out because the restaurant serves bacon in

> the

> > >> > morning. "

> > >> >

> > >> > They eat out just at approved restaruants.

> > >> >

> > >> > --- Ed Siceloff <siceloff

> wrote:

> > >> >

> > >> >>

> > >> >> Well gees. Why pick on beef? Anything that

> > is

> > >> >> commercially raised for meat

> > >> >> has to grab your attention. I buy from a

> mill

> > >> that

> > >> >> makes many of their own

> > >> >> products. Just to be a little more sure

> about

> > >> what

> > >> >> I am feeding the

> > >> >> critters that I eat (mostly eggs from

> > chickens).

> > >> >> There is pretty much only

> > >> >> " good " ingredients in it. But, to be sure,

> > from

> > >> >> what the research states,

> > >> >> prions actually have what I would say

> " eternal

> > >> life "

> > >> >> ascribed to them. You

> > >> >> give commercial feed to your animals, that

> has

> > >> >> animal carcass in it, that is

> > >> >> infected with the various spongeiform

> > diseases,

> > >> you

> > >> >> can be infected by

> > >> >> putting it on the soil you grow your garden

> > in.

> > >> >> That is supposedly one of

> > >> >> the ways that deer and elk get infected with

> > it.

> > >> >> But, I remember reading

> > >> >> some things stating that particular immune

> > >> systems

> > >> >> can handle these things

> > >> >> as well. Otherwise, we'd probably all be

> > already

> > >> >> sick with, what, mad

> > >> >> human?

> > >> >>

> > >> >> I know people who follow Kosher laws who

> > won't

> > >> eat

> > >> >> out because the

> > >> >> restaurant serves bacon in the morning. Too

> > much

> > >> >> risk in it for them. Pig

> > >> >> gets all over everything.

> > >> >>

> > >> >> Another thought would be that the prions

> > last

> > >> on

> > >> >> from the animal carcass

> > >> >> all the way to a gelatin capsule that is

> made

> > >> from

> > >> >> animal source. You get

> > >> >> it with your vitamins and herbs.

> > >> >>

> > >> >> Ed

> > >> >>

> > >> >> _____

> > >> >>

> On

> > >> >> Behalf Of mike man

> > >> >> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:44 PM

> > >> >>

> > >> >> Re: Re:

> feeding

> > >> >> animals to animals

> > >> >>

> > >> >> " That

> > >> >> means if you eat in a kitchen that has had

> > beef

> > >> >> prepared in it using

> > >> >> any surface, utinsels, pots or pans that

> have

> > had

> > >> >> contact with beef

> > >> >> you risk picking it up even if you do not

> eat

> > >> beef.

> > >> >> Same with

> > >> >> restaurants, even, probably, the air you

> > >> breathe. "

> > >> >>

> > >> >> And let us not forget that the beef industry

> > >> sells

> > >> >> the

> > >> >> carcass and bones to companies that turn it

> > into

> > >> >> fertilizer used to grow vegetables and soap

> > used

> > >> to

> > >> >> was one's skin with.

> > >> >>

> > >> >> --- Kat <js_kat wrote:

> > >> >>

> > >> >> > ,

> > >> >> > " missourinaturegirl "

> > >> >> > <missourinaturegirl wrote:

> > >> >> > >

> > >> >> > > I understand on Coast there is still

> > ground

> > >> up

> > >> >> > chicken feces in feed,

> > >> >> > > and dead cows in feed. How come if we

> > were

> > >> >> > supposed to stop this in

> > >> >> > > 95, it is still happening?

> > >> >> > >

> > >> >> > Big business in feeder cattle...do a

> search

> > on

> > >> >> > feeder cattle, you'll

> > >> >> > find lots and lots of hits relating to the

> > >> stock

> > >> >> > market. As long as

> > >> >> > there is money made off it, it isn't going

> > >> away.

> > >> >> > Good reason to go to

> > >> >> > natural, free-range beef.

> > >> >> >

> > >> >> > Besides, in my opinion there is no way to

> > avoid

> > >> >> > exposure to mad cow.

> > >> >> > The prions only are destroyed at something

> > like

> > >> >> 800

> > >> >> > degrees F. At

> > >> >> > that temperature everything around the

> prion

> > is

> > >> >> > already ash. That

> > >> >> > means if you eat in a kitchen that has had

> > beef

> > >> >> > prepared in it using

> > >> >> > any surface, utinsels, pots or pans that

> > have

> > >> had

> > >> >> > contact with beef

> > >> >> > you risk picking it up even if you do not

> > eat

> > >> >> beef.

> > >> >> > Same with

> > >> >> > restaurants, even, probably, the air you

> > >> breathe.

> > >> >>

> > >> >> >

> > >> >> > Here is an article talking about the

> origins

> > of

> >

> === message truncated ===

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lol... no shit..

-

" Joseph Toman " <joseph_toman

Wednesday, March 15, 2006 7:30 PM

Re: Re: feeding animals to animals

> Well, costco must be good. At least it gets it out to

> everyone and must be safe.

>

> Actually, it really all comes down to money. Right.

> And corporations have your best intersts at heart -

> right.

>

> I know they only sell good stuff and we need to go

> deeper to see what they sell. Like Tyson who hid

> drugs in their chickens some time ago - Sorry. I just

> hate this world.

>

> --- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger wrote:

>

>> I havent eaten anything yet today other than 2 cups

>> of coffee.

>> I ususally only eat once a day unless I am working.

>> last night I had salmon filets ( frozen from costco)

>> and a baked potato with real butter.

>>

>> -

>> " mike man " <mgsboediitodpc

>>

>> Wednesday, March 15, 2006 1:34 PM

>> Re: Re: feeding

>> animals to animals

>>

>> > " what tastes good and "

>> > So you have not yet learned to eat what is good

>> for

>> > you? You want to eat the raw fruit and vegetables

>> > eating them at the momment when the flesh is

>> broken

>> > to get the most out of the food. Processed foods

>> are

>> > no good. Tell us what did you eat today that

>> tasted

>> > good?

>> >

>> > --- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger

>> wrote:

>> >

>> >> yes I know.. and Im not that much of a fanatic

>> >> anyway.

>> >> I just eat what tastes good and I can afford. if

>> >> healthy fits in those

>> >> criteria fine... I will try to eat healthy, but

>> if

>> >> it tastes like crap I

>> >> would rather go hungry... Im too fat anyway.

>> >>

>> >> -

>> >> " mike man " <mgsboediitodpc

>> >>

>> >> Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:55 AM

>> >> Re: Re: feeding

>> >> animals to animals

>> >>

>> >> > " god says we can eat it Im gonna eat it. "

>> >> > Actually there are rules on what to eat and

>> >> reasons

>> >> > for those rules are well defined within various

>> >> > religions which some follow strictly and not so

>> >> > strictly

>> >> >

>> >> > --- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger

>> >> wrote:

>> >> >

>> >> >> thats rediculous.

>> >> >> god says we can eat it Im gonna eat it.

>> >> >> especially if Im starving and there is nothing

>> >> else

>> >> >> on my plate.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> -

>> >> >> " mike man " <mgsboediitodpc

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:21 PM

>> >> >> RE: Re: feeding

>> >> >> animals to animals

>> >> >>

>> >> >> > " I know people who follow Kosher laws who

>> >> won't

>> >> >> eat

>> >> >> > out because the restaurant serves bacon in

>> the

>> >> >> > morning. "

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > They eat out just at approved restaruants.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > --- Ed Siceloff <siceloff

>> wrote:

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> Well gees. Why pick on beef? Anything

>> that

>> >> is

>> >> >> >> commercially raised for meat

>> >> >> >> has to grab your attention. I buy from a

>> mill

>> >> >> that

>> >> >> >> makes many of their own

>> >> >> >> products. Just to be a little more sure

>> about

>> >> >> what

>> >> >> >> I am feeding the

>> >> >> >> critters that I eat (mostly eggs from

>> >> chickens).

>> >> >> >> There is pretty much only

>> >> >> >> " good " ingredients in it. But, to be sure,

>> >> from

>> >> >> >> what the research states,

>> >> >> >> prions actually have what I would say

>> " eternal

>> >> >> life "

>> >> >> >> ascribed to them. You

>> >> >> >> give commercial feed to your animals, that

>> has

>> >> >> >> animal carcass in it, that is

>> >> >> >> infected with the various spongeiform

>> >> diseases,

>> >> >> you

>> >> >> >> can be infected by

>> >> >> >> putting it on the soil you grow your garden

>> >> in.

>> >> >> >> That is supposedly one of

>> >> >> >> the ways that deer and elk get infected

>> with

>> >> it.

>> >> >> >> But, I remember reading

>> >> >> >> some things stating that particular immune

>> >> >> systems

>> >> >> >> can handle these things

>> >> >> >> as well. Otherwise, we'd probably all be

>> >> already

>> >> >> >> sick with, what, mad

>> >> >> >> human?

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> I know people who follow Kosher laws who

>> >> won't

>> >> >> eat

>> >> >> >> out because the

>> >> >> >> restaurant serves bacon in the morning.

>> Too

>> >> much

>> >> >> >> risk in it for them. Pig

>> >> >> >> gets all over everything.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> Another thought would be that the prions

>> >> last

>> >> >> on

>> >> >> >> from the animal carcass

>> >> >> >> all the way to a gelatin capsule that is

>> made

>> >> >> from

>> >> >> >> animal source. You get

>> >> >> >> it with your vitamins and herbs.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> Ed

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> _____

>> >> >> >>

>> On

>> >> >> >> Behalf Of mike man

>> >> >> >> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:44 PM

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> Re: Re:

>> feeding

>> >> >> >> animals to animals

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> " That

>> >> >> >> means if you eat in a kitchen that has had

>> >> beef

>> >> >> >> prepared in it using

>> >> >> >> any surface, utinsels, pots or pans that

>> have

>> >> had

>> >> >> >> contact with beef

>> >> >> >> you risk picking it up even if you do not

>> eat

>> >> >> beef.

>> >> >> >> Same with

>> >> >> >> restaurants, even, probably, the air you

>> >> >> breathe. "

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> And let us not forget that the beef

>> industry

>> >> >> sells

>> >> >> >> the

>> >> >> >> carcass and bones to companies that turn it

>> >> into

>> >> >> >> fertilizer used to grow vegetables and soap

>> >> used

>> >> >> to

>> >> >> >> was one's skin with.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> --- Kat <js_kat wrote:

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> > --- In

>> ,

>> >> >> >> > " missourinaturegirl "

>> >> >> >> > <missourinaturegirl wrote:

>> >> >> >> > >

>> >> >> >> > > I understand on Coast there is still

>> >> ground

>> >> >> up

>> >> >> >> > chicken feces in feed,

>> >> >> >> > > and dead cows in feed. How come if we

>> >> were

>> >> >> >> > supposed to stop this in

>> >> >> >> > > 95, it is still happening?

>> >> >> >> > >

>> >> >> >> > Big business in feeder cattle...do a

>> search

>> >> on

>> >> >> >> > feeder cattle, you'll

>> >> >> >> > find lots and lots of hits relating to

>> the

>> >> >> stock

>> >> >> >> > market. As long as

>> >> >> >> > there is money made off it, it isn't

>> going

>> >> >> away.

>> >> >> >> > Good reason to go to

>> >> >> >> > natural, free-range beef.

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > Besides, in my opinion there is no way to

>> >> avoid

>> >> >> >> > exposure to mad cow.

>> >> >> >> > The prions only are destroyed at

>> something

>> >> like

>> >> >> >> 800

>> >> >> >> > degrees F. At

>> >> >> >> > that temperature everything around the

>> prion

>> >> is

>> >> >> >> > already ash. That

>> >> >> >> > means if you eat in a kitchen that has

>> had

>> >> beef

>> >> >> >> > prepared in it using

>> >> >> >> > any surface, utinsels, pots or pans that

>> >> have

>> >> >> had

>> >> >> >> > contact with beef

>> >> >> >> > you risk picking it up even if you do not

>> >> eat

>> >> >> >> beef.

>> >> >> >> > Same with

>> >> >> >> > restaurants, even, probably, the air you

>> >> >> breathe.

>> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> >

>> >> >> >> > Here is an article talking about the

>> origins

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March 15, 2006

no on the hemlock...

yes on the soda

no on the mike

no on the care...lol

(are you sure mike tastes good? and if so... how do you know? rotfl)

-

" Joseph Toman " <joseph_toman

Wednesday, March 15, 2006 7:36 PM

Re: Re: feeding animals to animals

> Do you know how sweet hemlock tastes... Why not?

> Perhaps because you know it is bad. And knowing that

> you will not take it into your system. Do you know how

> bad soda drinks are. if not why not? Do you

> understand how bad mike is? Do you care? But it all

> tastes good. So it must be okay.

>

> Get a grip.

>

> --- mike man <mgsboediitodpc wrote:

>

>> " what tastes good and "

>> So you have not yet learned to eat what is good for

>> you? You want to eat the raw fruit and vegetables

>> eating them at the momment when the flesh is broken

>> to get the most out of the food. Processed foods

>> are

>> no good. Tell us what did you eat today that tasted

>> good?

>>

>> --- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger wrote:

>>

>> > yes I know.. and Im not that much of a fanatic

>> > anyway.

>> > I just eat what tastes good and I can afford. if

>> > healthy fits in those

>> > criteria fine... I will try to eat healthy, but if

>> > it tastes like crap I

>> > would rather go hungry... Im too fat anyway.

>> >

>> > -

>> > " mike man " <mgsboediitodpc

>> >

>> > Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:55 AM

>> > Re: Re: feeding

>> > animals to animals

>> >

>> > > " god says we can eat it Im gonna eat it. "

>> > > Actually there are rules on what to eat and

>> > reasons

>> > > for those rules are well defined within various

>> > > religions which some follow strictly and not so

>> > > strictly

>> > >

>> > > --- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger

>> > wrote:

>> > >

>> > >> thats rediculous.

>> > >> god says we can eat it Im gonna eat it.

>> > >> especially if Im starving and there is nothing

>> > else

>> > >> on my plate.

>> > >>

>> > >> -

>> > >> " mike man " <mgsboediitodpc

>> > >>

>> > >> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:21 PM

>> > >> RE: Re: feeding

>> > >> animals to animals

>> > >>

>> > >> > " I know people who follow Kosher laws who

>> > won't

>> > >> eat

>> > >> > out because the restaurant serves bacon in

>> the

>> > >> > morning. "

>> > >> >

>> > >> > They eat out just at approved restaruants.

>> > >> >

>> > >> > --- Ed Siceloff <siceloff

>> wrote:

>> > >> >

>> > >> >>

>> > >> >> Well gees. Why pick on beef? Anything that

>> > is

>> > >> >> commercially raised for meat

>> > >> >> has to grab your attention. I buy from a

>> mill

>> > >> that

>> > >> >> makes many of their own

>> > >> >> products. Just to be a little more sure

>> about

>> > >> what

>> > >> >> I am feeding the

>> > >> >> critters that I eat (mostly eggs from

>> > chickens).

>> > >> >> There is pretty much only

>> > >> >> " good " ingredients in it. But, to be sure,

>> > from

>> > >> >> what the research states,

>> > >> >> prions actually have what I would say

>> " eternal

>> > >> life "

>> > >> >> ascribed to them. You

>> > >> >> give commercial feed to your animals, that

>> has

>> > >> >> animal carcass in it, that is

>> > >> >> infected with the various spongeiform

>> > diseases,

>> > >> you

>> > >> >> can be infected by

>> > >> >> putting it on the soil you grow your garden

>> > in.

>> > >> >> That is supposedly one of

>> > >> >> the ways that deer and elk get infected with

>> > it.

>> > >> >> But, I remember reading

>> > >> >> some things stating that particular immune

>> > >> systems

>> > >> >> can handle these things

>> > >> >> as well. Otherwise, we'd probably all be

>> > already

>> > >> >> sick with, what, mad

>> > >> >> human?

>> > >> >>

>> > >> >> I know people who follow Kosher laws who

>> > won't

>> > >> eat

>> > >> >> out because the

>> > >> >> restaurant serves bacon in the morning. Too

>> > much

>> > >> >> risk in it for them. Pig

>> > >> >> gets all over everything.

>> > >> >>

>> > >> >> Another thought would be that the prions

>> > last

>> > >> on

>> > >> >> from the animal carcass

>> > >> >> all the way to a gelatin capsule that is

>> made

>> > >> from

>> > >> >> animal source. You get

>> > >> >> it with your vitamins and herbs.

>> > >> >>

>> > >> >> Ed

>> > >> >>

>> > >> >> _____

>> > >> >>

>> On

>> > >> >> Behalf Of mike man

>> > >> >> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:44 PM

>> > >> >>

>> > >> >> Re: Re:

>> feeding

>> > >> >> animals to animals

>> > >> >>

>> > >> >> " That

>> > >> >> means if you eat in a kitchen that has had

>> > beef

>> > >> >> prepared in it using

>> > >> >> any surface, utinsels, pots or pans that

>> have

>> > had

>> > >> >> contact with beef

>> > >> >> you risk picking it up even if you do not

>> eat

>> > >> beef.

>> > >> >> Same with

>> > >> >> restaurants, even, probably, the air you

>> > >> breathe. "

>> > >> >>

>> > >> >> And let us not forget that the beef industry

>> > >> sells

>> > >> >> the

>> > >> >> carcass and bones to companies that turn it

>> > into

>> > >> >> fertilizer used to grow vegetables and soap

>> > used

>> > >> to

>> > >> >> was one's skin with.

>> > >> >>

>> > >> >> --- Kat <js_kat wrote:

>> > >> >>

>> > >> >> > ,

>> > >> >> > " missourinaturegirl "

>> > >> >> > <missourinaturegirl wrote:

>> > >> >> > >

>> > >> >> > > I understand on Coast there is still

>> > ground

>> > >> up

>> > >> >> > chicken feces in feed,

>> > >> >> > > and dead cows in feed. How come if we

>> > were

>> > >> >> > supposed to stop this in

>> > >> >> > > 95, it is still happening?

>> > >> >> > >

>> > >> >> > Big business in feeder cattle...do a

>> search

>> > on

>> > >> >> > feeder cattle, you'll

>> > >> >> > find lots and lots of hits relating to the

>> > >> stock

>> > >> >> > market. As long as

>> > >> >> > there is money made off it, it isn't going

>> > >> away.

>> > >> >> > Good reason to go to

>> > >> >> > natural, free-range beef.

>> > >> >> >

>> > >> >> > Besides, in my opinion there is no way to

>> > avoid

>> > >> >> > exposure to mad cow.

>> > >> >> > The prions only are destroyed at something

>> > like

>> > >> >> 800

>> > >> >> > degrees F. At

>> > >> >> > that temperature everything around the

>> prion

>> > is

>> > >> >> > already ash. That

>> > >> >> > means if you eat in a kitchen that has had

>> > beef

>> > >> >> > prepared in it using

>> > >> >> > any surface, utinsels, pots or pans that

>> > have

>> > >> had

>> > >> >> > contact with beef

>> > >> >> > you risk picking it up even if you do not

>> > eat

>> > >> >> beef.

>> > >> >> > Same with

>> > >> >> > restaurants, even, probably, the air you

>> > >> breathe.

>> > >> >>

>> > >> >> >

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>> origins

>> > of

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March 15, 2006

No I do not need to taste poison to know it kills me

and what it taste like when someone records it before

dying. Dont thing we need to beat this to death - I

think we are on the same team. Hopefully.

--- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger wrote:

> no on the hemlock...

> yes on the soda

> no on the mike

> no on the care...lol

> (are you sure mike tastes good? and if so... how do

> you know? rotfl)

>

> -

> " Joseph Toman " <joseph_toman

>

> Wednesday, March 15, 2006 7:36 PM

> Re: Re: feeding

> animals to animals

>

> > Do you know how sweet hemlock tastes... Why not?

> > Perhaps because you know it is bad. And knowing

> that

> > you will not take it into your system. Do you know

> how

> > bad soda drinks are. if not why not? Do you

> > understand how bad mike is? Do you care? But it

> all

> > tastes good. So it must be okay.

> >

> > Get a grip.

> >

> > --- mike man <mgsboediitodpc wrote:

> >

> >> " what tastes good and "

> >> So you have not yet learned to eat what is good

> for

> >> you? You want to eat the raw fruit and vegetables

> >> eating them at the momment when the flesh is

> broken

> >> to get the most out of the food. Processed foods

> >> are

> >> no good. Tell us what did you eat today that

> tasted

> >> good?

> >>

> >> --- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger

> wrote:

> >>

> >> > yes I know.. and Im not that much of a fanatic

> >> > anyway.

> >> > I just eat what tastes good and I can afford.

> if

> >> > healthy fits in those

> >> > criteria fine... I will try to eat healthy, but

> if

> >> > it tastes like crap I

> >> > would rather go hungry... Im too fat anyway.

> >> >

> >> > -

> >> > " mike man " <mgsboediitodpc

> >> >

> >> > Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:55 AM

> >> > Re: Re: feeding

> >> > animals to animals

> >> >

> >> > > " god says we can eat it Im gonna eat it. "

> >> > > Actually there are rules on what to eat and

> >> > reasons

> >> > > for those rules are well defined within

> various

> >> > > religions which some follow strictly and not

> so

> >> > > strictly

> >> > >

> >> > > --- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger

> >> > wrote:

> >> > >

> >> > >> thats rediculous.

> >> > >> god says we can eat it Im gonna eat it.

> >> > >> especially if Im starving and there is

> nothing

> >> > else

> >> > >> on my plate.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> -

> >> > >> " mike man " <mgsboediitodpc

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:21 PM

> >> > >> RE: Re:

> feeding

> >> > >> animals to animals

> >> > >>

> >> > >> > " I know people who follow Kosher laws who

> >> > won't

> >> > >> eat

> >> > >> > out because the restaurant serves bacon in

> >> the

> >> > >> > morning. "

> >> > >> >

> >> > >> > They eat out just at approved restaruants.

> >> > >> >

> >> > >> > --- Ed Siceloff <siceloff

> >> wrote:

> >> > >> >

> >> > >> >>

> >> > >> >> Well gees. Why pick on beef? Anything

> that

> >> > is

> >> > >> >> commercially raised for meat

> >> > >> >> has to grab your attention. I buy from a

> >> mill

> >> > >> that

> >> > >> >> makes many of their own

> >> > >> >> products. Just to be a little more sure

> >> about

> >> > >> what

> >> > >> >> I am feeding the

> >> > >> >> critters that I eat (mostly eggs from

> >> > chickens).

> >> > >> >> There is pretty much only

> >> > >> >> " good " ingredients in it. But, to be

> sure,

> >> > from

> >> > >> >> what the research states,

> >> > >> >> prions actually have what I would say

> >> " eternal

> >> > >> life "

> >> > >> >> ascribed to them. You

> >> > >> >> give commercial feed to your animals,

> that

> >> has

> >> > >> >> animal carcass in it, that is

> >> > >> >> infected with the various spongeiform

> >> > diseases,

> >> > >> you

> >> > >> >> can be infected by

> >> > >> >> putting it on the soil you grow your

> garden

> >> > in.

> >> > >> >> That is supposedly one of

> >> > >> >> the ways that deer and elk get infected

> with

> >> > it.

> >> > >> >> But, I remember reading

> >> > >> >> some things stating that particular

> immune

> >> > >> systems

> >> > >> >> can handle these things

> >> > >> >> as well. Otherwise, we'd probably all be

> >> > already

> >> > >> >> sick with, what, mad

> >> > >> >> human?

> >> > >> >>

> >> > >> >> I know people who follow Kosher laws

> who

> >> > won't

> >> > >> eat

> >> > >> >> out because the

> >> > >> >> restaurant serves bacon in the morning.

> Too

> >> > much

> >> > >> >> risk in it for them. Pig

> >> > >> >> gets all over everything.

> >> > >> >>

> >> > >> >> Another thought would be that the

> prions

> >> > last

> >> > >> on

> >> > >> >> from the animal carcass

> >> > >> >> all the way to a gelatin capsule that is

> >> made

> >> > >> from

> >> > >> >> animal source. You get

> >> > >> >> it with your vitamins and herbs.

> >> > >> >>

> >> > >> >> Ed

> >> > >> >>

> >> > >> >> _____

> >> > >> >>

>

> >> On

> >> > >> >> Behalf Of mike man

> >> > >> >> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:44 PM

> >> > >> >>

> >> > >> >> Re: Re:

> >> feeding

> >> > >> >> animals to animals

> >> > >> >>

> >> > >> >> " That

> >> > >> >> means if you eat in a kitchen that has

> had

> >> > beef

> >> > >> >> prepared in it using

> >> > >> >> any surface, utinsels, pots or pans that

> >> have

> >> > had

> >> > >> >> contact with beef

> >> > >> >> you risk picking it up even if you do not

> >> eat

> >> > >> beef.

> >> > >> >> Same with

> >> > >> >> restaurants, even, probably, the air you

> >> > >> breathe. "

> >> > >> >>

> >> > >> >> And let us not forget that the beef

> industry

> >> > >> sells

> >> > >> >> the

> >> > >> >> carcass and bones to companies that turn

> it

> >> > into

> >> > >> >> fertilizer used to grow vegetables and

> soap

> >> > used

> >> > >> to

> >> > >> >> was one's skin with.

> >> > >> >>

> >> > >> >> --- Kat <js_kat wrote:

> >> > >> >>

> >> > >> >> > --- In

> ,

> >> > >> >> > " missourinaturegirl "

> >> > >> >> > <missourinaturegirl wrote:

> >> > >> >> > >

> >> > >> >> > > I understand on Coast there is still

> >> > ground

> >> > >> up

> >> > >> >> > chicken feces in feed,

> >> > >> >> > > and dead cows in feed. How come if

> we

> >> > were

> >> > >> >> > supposed to stop this in

> >> > >> >> > > 95, it is still happening?

> >> > >> >> > >

> >> > >> >> > Big business in feeder cattle...do a

> >> search

> >> > on

> >> > >> >> > feeder cattle, you'll

> >> > >> >> > find lots and lots of hits relating to

> the

> >> > >> stock

> >> > >> >> > market. As long as

> >> > >> >> > there is money made off it, it isn't

> going

> >> > >> away.

> >> > >> >> > Good reason to go to

> >> > >> >> > natural, free-range beef.

> >> > >> >> >

> >> > >> >> > Besides, in my opinion there is no way

> to

> >> > avoid

> >> > >> >> > exposure to mad cow.

> >> > >> >> > The prions only are destroyed at

> something

> >> > like

> >> > >> >> 800

> >> > >> >> > degrees F. At

> >> > >> >> > that temperature everything around the

> >> prion

> >> > is

> >> > >> >> > already ash. That

> >> > >> >> > means if you eat in a kitchen that has

> had

> >> > beef

> >> > >> >> > prepared in it using

> >> > >> >> > any surface, utinsels, pots or pans

> that

> >> > have

> >> > >> had

> >> > >> >> > contact with beef

> >> > >> >> > you risk picking it up even if you do

> not

> >> > eat

> >> > >> >> beef.

> >> > >> >> > Same with

> >> > >> >> > restaurants, even, probably, the air

> you

> >> > >> breathe.

> >> > >> >>

> >> > >> >> >

> >> > >> >> > Here is an article talking about the

> >> origins

> >> > of

> >> >

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Sorry. Not as informed as you, just getting informed.

--- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger wrote:

> lol... no shit..

>

> -

> " Joseph Toman " <joseph_toman

>

> Wednesday, March 15, 2006 7:30 PM

> Re: Re: feeding

> animals to animals

>

> > Well, costco must be good. At least it gets it

> out to

> > everyone and must be safe.

> >

> > Actually, it really all comes down to money.

> Right.

> > And corporations have your best intersts at heart

> -

> > right.

> >

> > I know they only sell good stuff and we need to go

> > deeper to see what they sell. Like Tyson who hid

> > drugs in their chickens some time ago - Sorry. I

> just

> > hate this world.

> >

> > --- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger

> wrote:

> >

> >> I havent eaten anything yet today other than 2

> cups

> >> of coffee.

> >> I ususally only eat once a day unless I am

> working.

> >> last night I had salmon filets ( frozen from

> costco)

> >> and a baked potato with real butter.

> >>

> >> -

> >> " mike man " <mgsboediitodpc

> >>

> >> Wednesday, March 15, 2006 1:34 PM

> >> Re: Re: feeding

> >> animals to animals

> >>

> >> > " what tastes good and "

> >> > So you have not yet learned to eat what is good

> >> for

> >> > you? You want to eat the raw fruit and

> vegetables

> >> > eating them at the momment when the flesh is

> >> broken

> >> > to get the most out of the food. Processed

> foods

> >> are

> >> > no good. Tell us what did you eat today that

> >> tasted

> >> > good?

> >> >

> >> > --- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger

> >> wrote:

> >> >

> >> >> yes I know.. and Im not that much of a fanatic

> >> >> anyway.

> >> >> I just eat what tastes good and I can afford.

> if

> >> >> healthy fits in those

> >> >> criteria fine... I will try to eat healthy,

> but

> >> if

> >> >> it tastes like crap I

> >> >> would rather go hungry... Im too fat anyway.

> >> >>

> >> >> -

> >> >> " mike man " <mgsboediitodpc

> >> >>

> >> >> Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:55 AM

> >> >> Re: Re: feeding

> >> >> animals to animals

> >> >>

> >> >> > " god says we can eat it Im gonna eat it. "

> >> >> > Actually there are rules on what to eat and

> >> >> reasons

> >> >> > for those rules are well defined within

> various

> >> >> > religions which some follow strictly and not

> so

> >> >> > strictly

> >> >> >

> >> >> > --- SHARON JAGGER <sharonjagger

> >> >> wrote:

> >> >> >

> >> >> >> thats rediculous.

> >> >> >> god says we can eat it Im gonna eat it.

> >> >> >> especially if Im starving and there is

> nothing

> >> >> else

> >> >> >> on my plate.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> -

> >> >> >> " mike man " <mgsboediitodpc

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:21 PM

> >> >> >> RE: Re:

> feeding

> >> >> >> animals to animals

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> > " I know people who follow Kosher laws

> who

> >> >> won't

> >> >> >> eat

> >> >> >> > out because the restaurant serves bacon

> in

> >> the

> >> >> >> > morning. "

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > They eat out just at approved

> restaruants.

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > --- Ed Siceloff <siceloff

> >> wrote:

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> Well gees. Why pick on beef? Anything

> >> that

> >> >> is

> >> >> >> >> commercially raised for meat

> >> >> >> >> has to grab your attention. I buy from

> a

> >> mill

> >> >> >> that

> >> >> >> >> makes many of their own

> >> >> >> >> products. Just to be a little more sure

> >> about

> >> >> >> what

> >> >> >> >> I am feeding the

> >> >> >> >> critters that I eat (mostly eggs from

> >> >> chickens).

> >> >> >> >> There is pretty much only

> >> >> >> >> " good " ingredients in it. But, to be

> sure,

> >> >> from

> >> >> >> >> what the research states,

> >> >> >> >> prions actually have what I would say

> >> " eternal

> >> >> >> life "

> >> >> >> >> ascribed to them. You

> >> >> >> >> give commercial feed to your animals,

> that

> >> has

> >> >> >> >> animal carcass in it, that is

> >> >> >> >> infected with the various spongeiform

> >> >> diseases,

> >> >> >> you

> >> >> >> >> can be infected by

> >> >> >> >> putting it on the soil you grow your

> garden

> >> >> in.

> >> >> >> >> That is supposedly one of

> >> >> >> >> the ways that deer and elk get infected

> >> with

> >> >> it.

> >> >> >> >> But, I remember reading

> >> >> >> >> some things stating that particular

> immune

> >> >> >> systems

> >> >> >> >> can handle these things

> >> >> >> >> as well. Otherwise, we'd probably all

> be

> >> >> already

> >> >> >> >> sick with, what, mad

> >> >> >> >> human?

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> I know people who follow Kosher laws

> who

> >> >> won't

> >> >> >> eat

> >> >> >> >> out because the

> >> >> >> >> restaurant serves bacon in the morning.

> >> Too

> >> >> much

> >> >> >> >> risk in it for them. Pig

> >> >> >> >> gets all over everything.

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> Another thought would be that the

> prions

> >> >> last

> >> >> >> on

> >> >> >> >> from the animal carcass

> >> >> >> >> all the way to a gelatin capsule that is

> >> made

> >> >> >> from

> >> >> >> >> animal source. You get

> >> >> >> >> it with your vitamins and herbs.

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> Ed

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> _____

> >> >> >> >>

>

> >> On

> >> >> >> >> Behalf Of mike man

> >> >> >> >> Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:44 PM

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> Re: Re:

> >> feeding

> >> >> >> >> animals to animals

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> " That

> >> >> >> >> means if you eat in a kitchen that has

> had

> >> >> beef

> >> >> >> >> prepared in it using

> >> >> >> >> any surface, utinsels, pots or pans that

> >> have

> >> >> had

> >> >> >> >> contact with beef

> >> >> >> >> you risk picking it up even if you do

> not

> >> eat

> >> >> >> beef.

> >> >> >> >> Same with

> >> >> >> >> restaurants, even, probably, the air you

> >> >> >> breathe. "

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> And let us not forget that the beef

> >> industry

> >> >> >> sells

> >> >> >> >> the

> >> >> >> >> carcass and bones to companies that turn

> it

> >> >> into

> >> >> >> >> fertilizer used to grow vegetables and

> soap

> >> >> used

> >> >> >> to

> >> >> >> >> was one's skin with.

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> --- Kat <js_kat wrote:

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> > --- In

> >> ,

> >> >> >> >> > " missourinaturegirl "

> >> >> >> >> > <missourinaturegirl wrote:

> >> >> >> >> > >

> >> >> >> >> > > I understand on Coast there is still

> >> >> ground

> >> >> >> up

> >> >> >> >> > chicken feces in feed,

> >> >> >> >> > > and dead cows in feed. How come if

> we

> >> >> were

> >> >> >> >> > supposed to stop this in

> >> >> >> >> > > 95, it is still happening?

> >> >> >> >> > >

> >> >> >> >> > Big business in feeder cattle...do a

> >> search

> >> >> on

> >> >> >> >> > feeder cattle, you'll

> >> >> >> >> > find lots and lots of hits relating to

> >> the

> >> >> >> stock

> >> >> >> >> > market. As long as

> >> >> >> >> > there is money made off it, it isn't

> >> going

> >> >> >> away.

> >> >> >> >> > Good reason to go to

> >> >> >> >> > natural, free-range beef.

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> > Besides, in my opinion there is no way

> to

> >> >> avoid

> >> >> >> >> > exposure to mad cow.

> >> >> >> >> > The prions only are destroyed at

> >> something

> >> >> like

> >> >> >> >> 800

> >> >> >> >> > degrees F. At

> >> >> >> >> > that temperature everything around the

> >> prion

> >> >> is

> >> >> >> >> > already ash. That

> >> >> >> >> > means if you eat in a kitchen that has

> >> had

> >> >> beef

> >> >> >> >> > prepared in it using

> >> >> >> >> > any surface, utinsels, pots or pans

> that

> >> >> have

> >> >> >> had

> >> >> >> >> > contact with beef

> >> >> >> >> > you risk picking it up even if you do

> not

> >> >> eat

> >> >> >> >> beef.

> >> >> >> >> > Same with

> >> >> >> >> > restaurants, even, probably, the air

> you

> >> >> >> breathe.

> >> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> > Here is an article talking about the

> >> origins

> >> >> of

> >> >>

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March 16, 2006

Hi,

The pits of apricots have B17, which is laitrille...and I think I've heard that the other fruits seeds contain it too. Laitrille is considered to be a good cancer treatment, but illegal to sell as that in this country..in the form of supplements. Can sell it now, but can't say it cures cancer. I wonder how a person could manage to get apricot pits down?

Lor

Hi Mike: The cultures that eat apple seeds, apricot pits, peach seeds, cherry pits, all containing a type of cyanide, do quite well. As it turns out, the particular form of cyanide kills cancer cells. Your bodyâ€™s regular cells has an enzyme that deactivates the cyanide molecule. The cancer cells do not. They die. I forget what that enzyme is. Iâ€™ve sat down and gluttoned out on cherries, and ate the pits (swallowed them). Never even got sick.

On the other hand, if you were to throw a wilted branch of wild cherry tree over the fence to oneâ€™s goats, they could die of cyanide poisoning. Apparently the leaves are a little different. I have neighbors that are paranoid of that. Supposedly theyâ€™ve seen animals die from eating the leaves of apple, peach, cherry trees after they get wilted. Donâ€™t know what happens in that chemical process.

Ed

March 16, 2006

Ed

I have used black walnut tincture, wormwood capsules, and pure cinnamon capsules for an intestinal cleanse once, recommended by

Dr. Hulda Clark. It lasted one month and I lost weight without trying,

cured whatever ailed me at the time, and I put my cats on it also (as

she recommends to deparasite) after giving them parsley water for

a week to tone the kidneys. At the time, I had bad gastro reflux and

you wouldn't think I could handle the cinnamon capsules and the

wormwood, but it didn't bother me..

Lor

I know about cherry pits. Iâ€™ve cracked open peach pits and eaten them as well. Not quite the same quantity, even though they are larger, as the cherry pits. And then I eat the whole apple most of the time. When they are in season. Only time I like apples. Fresh. Iâ€™ve not seen an animal die from eating the leaves of these various trees. Just other people vouching for that one. And, I donâ€™t want to see one of my animals die from eating the leaves either. Wilted leaves that is.

If I thought that I had a parasite problem, I would eat a tea, or some brew, with black walnut in it. Iâ€™d have to know more about it though and how much. I remember reading an herbal by Culpeper 20 years ago. He wrote about fennel seed and its use in losing weight. Steep a teaspoon of fennel into a cup of hot water (having boiled it) and then drink it. I did so. I did that at about 10pm. Went to sleep. Was married then. I woke up, and woke her up too, about 1:30am shivering, really shivering. Ended up with electric blanket on high and some other blankets on as well. Took awhile but went back to sleep, when warm again. Then I woke up to pee. Sheesh. Pee and pee, and pee some more. I went to a school that morning where I was maintenance. The people there said that I looked up awful (no jokes, more awful than normal). Made me go see the nurse. She thought I looked dehydrated, especially when I told her about all the bathroom stuff. I lost 8 pounds of weight in one night. Reckon that was most of the water that was available in me. People there sent me home.

Some years later, I read the same formula in another herbal (I collect them). This one said to take one teaspoon of the diffusion every hour. It helps to burn fat. So, obviously I very seriously overdosed, or had an allergic reaction to the massive dose. So, yep, youâ€™re right. Doses are important.

ed

March 16, 2006

Joe,

I'm sure you wish you could have talked her into an alternative treatment,

but some people just can't be...try not to beat yourself up on it. Too many trust their Dr's and are loyal to them..even when those Dr's don't give them

any options...they give them chemo and or radiation..no other choices..and insurance companies don't either. I wish we all could find a good naturopathic Dr. and afford one, but they are getting really hard to find, even if one could afford it or just took the money somehow to do it. I'm sorry about your wife...it's sad. My dad died from a cancer also and never was told he even had it for 6 years!

Lor

Lor, how much I understand. My wife died needlessly

because of cancer. After ten years. I still have a

guilt complex. I really should have forced her. No

one could feel as bad as me...

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