using this group as a way to sell products

[Guest guest]

The list owner makes the decisions about the list. He enforces any rules he

makes. It is up to him to poll us should he choose to do so.

I am interested in learning about various products. Overlooking typos and

English as a second language, I would not have anything to do with someone

who is supposedly a professional yet cannot spell words they use to convey

their " expert " or " educated " information.

Denise

>

> Dawn - we need to enforce the rules. That's like saying that it's

> just too bad if your boss sexually harasses you! No... we should set

> the rules and the listowner should enforce them. This is our group

> and if we don't want to be spammed or sold products by anyone on the

> list, we should decide what we want and make it happen.

>

> My opinion is mine of course.

>

> Thanks for expressing yours!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/1/2007 2:42:08 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,

Margi writes:

 

I would say that it is the list owner's group, and if you don't like it,

you are free to leave.

 

 

AMEN AMEN AMEN

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

What about forming a subgroup where people go to advertise their products and

consumers can go to look for specific items??

The reason the " just delete it " suggestion won't work for me is because when I

log onto this site after being away for a weekend and I have to slog through

four hundred freely advertised product messages to find a reply to an email, it

just gets to be a bit much.

I also agree with the writer who stated that she would not purchase a product

from a seller who doesn't take the time to spell correctly. If you're going to

sell a product, market it in a professional manner.

Kate

 

O'Conchubair <RNMSW wrote:

 

The list owner makes the decisions about the list. He enforces any rules he

makes. It is up to him to poll us should he choose to do so.

I am interested in learning about various products. Overlooking typos and

English as a second language, I would not have anything to do with someone

who is supposedly a professional yet cannot spell words they use to convey

their " expert " or " educated " information.

Denise

>

> Dawn - we need to enforce the rules. That's like saying that it's

> just too bad if your boss sexually harasses you! No... we should set

> the rules and the listowner should enforce them. This is our group

> and if we don't want to be spammed or sold products by anyone on the

> list, we should decide what we want and make it happen.

>

> My opinion is mine of course.

>

> Thanks for expressing yours!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

It is not good for the group if every sales guy will start sending e-mails about

their products on this mailing list. It will kill the benefit of this group of

having individual writing their experience.

 

I think everybody , whoever does not want to see such type of e-mails on this

list, should write down the information like e-mail addresses which people are

using to send e-mail about selling products etc. and then notify it to moderator

with some details. Then moderator can contact the individual and/or put the

individual's email in spam list or delete that person from this mailing list.

 

I will start collecting the following of information

1. E-mails address of the person who is using this group to sell their products.

2. Little bit details about the content to prove my claim.

 

Thanks,

-syed

 

O'Conchubair <RNMSW wrote:

 

The list owner makes the decisions about the list. He enforces any rules he

makes. It is up to him to poll us should he choose to do so.

I am interested in learning about various products. Overlooking typos and

English as a second language, I would not have anything to do with someone

who is supposedly a professional yet cannot spell words they use to convey

their " expert " or " educated " information.

Denise

>

> Dawn - we need to enforce the rules. That's like saying that it's

> just too bad if your boss sexually harasses you! No... we should set

> the rules and the listowner should enforce them. This is our group

> and if we don't want to be spammed or sold products by anyone on the

> list, we should decide what we want and make it happen.

>

> My opinion is mine of course.

>

> Thanks for expressing yours!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

In case if somebody is not spelling the product correctly , we can contact that

person by sending him/e pesonal e-mail and ask about more details.

 

We do not need see few hundreds of sales pitches to get the right name of one

product.

Thanks,

-syed

Kate OBrien <highlandviewdrive wrote:

What about forming a subgroup where people go to advertise their products and

consumers can go to look for specific items??

The reason the " just delete it " suggestion won't work for me is because when I

log onto this site after being away for a weekend and I have to slog through

four hundred freely advertised product messages to find a reply to an email, it

just gets to be a bit much.

I also agree with the writer who stated that she would not purchase a product

from a seller who doesn't take the time to spell correctly. If you're going to

sell a product, market it in a professional manner.

Kate

 

O'Conchubair <RNMSW wrote:

 

The list owner makes the decisions about the list. He enforces any rules he

makes. It is up to him to poll us should he choose to do so.

I am interested in learning about various products. Overlooking typos and

English as a second language, I would not have anything to do with someone

who is supposedly a professional yet cannot spell words they use to convey

their " expert " or " educated " information.

Denise

>

> Dawn - we need to enforce the rules. That's like saying that it's

> just too bad if your boss sexually harasses you! No... we should set

> the rules and the listowner should enforce them. This is our group

> and if we don't want to be spammed or sold products by anyone on the

> list, we should decide what we want and make it happen.

>

> My opinion is mine of course.

>

> Thanks for expressing yours!

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

hallelujah!!!!

 

Its about time someone could see thru all this baloney

and put it all in perspective so elequently. Thank

you!

 

I just want also to mention one example because I too

am tired of seeing all the negetivety. Who doesnt buy

a magazine from time to time? Yet we spend money to

see about 100 pages of ads and 20 pages of

information. Well this site is free to its users

(probably 99% information & 1% ads) Definately, not

even free to , but I am sure they make up the

difference through advertising. Do you think out

of the kindness of their heart is giving us a place to

better ourselves thru natural remedies at theri cost?

I rather beleive they are doing it for profit. Its

what makes the world go round.

 

I rather suggest everyone have a look internally

before so quickly lashing out & judgeing others. Look

at your daily activity and have a good look at how you

are selling yourself on a daily basis just to get a

nut. Then come back and complain about your FREE

membership.

 

next subject....

 

Michael

sensatia.com

 

--- " Touch.Stone " <touch.stone wrote:

 

> Oh how I am fed up with all these differing opinions

> about whether someone

> should be allowed to post a sales message or not. I

> have only read just one,

> one, well reasoned response. My mailbox has been

> filled to the brim with

> irrational replies from people who have been

> judgemental.

>

> We would have no products of any kind, nor any

> information about anything

> with which to tax our brains and to mull over if

> people didn't communicate.

> It does not matter if the communication is pitched

> as a sales mechanism or

> information only. People DO trade and they DO, even

> if they are unaware of

> doing so, communicate. Trade and information makes

> the world go round and

> most of us sell ourselves in the pursuit of the

> daily dollar, pound, shekel

> or dhiram. It is altruism in the extreme to judge

> someone to be beyond the

> limits of acceptance because they happen to mention

> that they sell things.

> If it is found to be distasteful to you then

> exercise your personal right to

> delete or ignore and please get back on the path to

> sanity and realism.

>

> Censorship is an evil with which we should all do

> without. Demanding

> censorship is what is really beyond acceptance.

>

> I don't want to read a digest. I want individual

> mails and I am prepared to

> ignore or delete those of no interest but over 80%

> of today's individual

> mails have been deleted by me and the sad thing is I

> have to read some of

> the responses just to find out its more nastiness.

>

> God's teeth - end it now and move on.

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Renee have you tried Essiac for your dad? Kathy

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Renee

Monday, January 01, 2007 4:05 PM

 

RE: Re: using this group as a way to sell

products

 

 

 

Oh absolutely. But I was assured that the 10 day jump start would really " do

something for me--for everyone actually. :-), even though I told the lady I

didn't have much wrong with me. I actually wanted to see what it would do

before giving it to my father. He has leukemia and diabetes and I didn't

want it to do too much detoxing all at once. Well, that 10 day did nothing

for me. Zip. Nada. So not saying that it wouldn't do anything for Dad, but I

really needed to see some sort of response myself before giving it to him.

He knows nothing about anything alternative, and relies on me for his health

as he's also blind from the diabetes. Therefore he can't get to the

bathroom very quickly, and I needed to see how this stuff would react on me

first, but because it didn't do anything for me, I'm reluctant to give it to

him. What if it gave him violent diarrhea? That would be too much for him.

Sooo. But, I just wanted to let everyone know that there's always the

chance that something won't work at all, or the way it's suppose to. But

not to be disappointed--keep trying. You just never know when you will find

the perfect product for the problem. And you are right again, Kathy--it's

almost ALWAYS a combination of things that work best. Diet, exercise, fresh

air, good clean water, supplements, good food, energy work, balanced

emotions and products.

 

Samala

Renee

 

----

Renee, that is so true, in my practice I use a little of everything

Depending on the client, some massage works, others herbs or homeopathy.

But I will say celation takes longer than 10 days. A herbal is usually a

Minimum of 2 to 3 months if you are lucky to bring you back into balance. I

Would of done a 30 day then wrote it off. I am learning quantum touch and

Furthering my Homeopathy education now to round off my practice to try and

Help where other things fail, a combination usually works best. Thanks

Kathy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Everything we see in this forum is not 100% substance(my personal opinion).

So why not we see some advertisement?

 

The very people who oppose, may see some thing they really need.

 

But caution! Internet is full of con-men.

 

Ananda

Philippine & Sri Lanka

 

 

Michael Lorenti <sensatia_botanicals wrote:

hallelujah!!!!

 

Its about time someone could see thru all this baloney

and put it all in perspective so elequently. Thank

you!

 

I just want also to mention one example because I too

am tired of seeing all the negetivety. Who doesnt buy

a magazine from time to time? Yet we spend money to

see about 100 pages of ads and 20 pages of

information. Well this site is free to its users

(probably 99% information & 1% ads) Definately, not

even free to , but I am sure they make up the

difference through advertising. Do you think out

of the kindness of their heart is giving us a place to

better ourselves thru natural remedies at theri cost?

I rather beleive they are doing it for profit. Its

what makes the world go round.

 

I rather suggest everyone have a look internally

before so quickly lashing out & judgeing others. Look

at your daily activity and have a good look at how you

are selling yourself on a daily basis just to get a

nut. Then come back and complain about your FREE

membership.

 

next subject....

 

Michael

sensatia.com

 

--- " Touch.Stone " <touch.stone wrote:

 

> Oh how I am fed up with all these differing opinions

> about whether someone

> should be allowed to post a sales message or not. I

> have only read just one,

> one, well reasoned response. My mailbox has been

> filled to the brim with

> irrational replies from people who have been

> judgemental.

>

> We would have no products of any kind, nor any

> information about anything

> with which to tax our brains and to mull over if

> people didn't communicate.

> It does not matter if the communication is pitched

> as a sales mechanism or

> information only. People DO trade and they DO, even

> if they are unaware of

> doing so, communicate. Trade and information makes

> the world go round and

> most of us sell ourselves in the pursuit of the

> daily dollar, pound, shekel

> or dhiram. It is altruism in the extreme to judge

> someone to be beyond the

> limits of acceptance because they happen to mention

> that they sell things.

> If it is found to be distasteful to you then

> exercise your personal right to

> delete or ignore and please get back on the path to

> sanity and realism.

>

> Censorship is an evil with which we should all do

> without. Demanding

> censorship is what is really beyond acceptance.

>

> I don't want to read a digest. I want individual

> mails and I am prepared to

> ignore or delete those of no interest but over 80%

> of today's individual

> mails have been deleted by me and the sad thing is I

> have to read some of

> the responses just to find out its more nastiness.

>

> God's teeth - end it now and move on.

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Send instant messages to your online friends http://asia.messenger.

 

 

[Guest guest]

No. My Mom tried it when she had cancer, before she died, and it didn't help

her so I doubt he'd be willing to drink it now. Actually, he has been on

Gleevec, a " new " leukemia medicine, for the past almost 4 years and that is

keeping it under complete control. I'm not one for medicine when natural

methods work, but this IS working for him, without any side effects, and at

his age he wouldn't go through all that is needed to get well naturally

(which I believe is possible, but it would take an enormous effort, more

than he's willing to put out). But I keep getting and trying different

things for him, especially for his diabetes. Have been able to cut his

insulin in half, and keep most of the excess weight off, and have gotten him

on a treadmill, so that all helps. Thanks for your thoughts.

 

Samala,

Renee

 

----

 

Renee have you tried Essiac for your dad? Kathy

[Guest guest]

, Syed Naqvi <snaqvi

wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> It is not good for the group if every sales guy will start sending

e-mails about their products on this mailing list. It will kill the

benefit of this group of having individual writing their experience.

>

> I think everybody , whoever does not want to see such type of e-

mails on this list, should write down the information like e-mail

addresses which people are using to send e-mail about selling

products etc. and then notify it to moderator with some details. Then

moderator can contact the individual and/or put the individual's

email in spam list or delete that person from this mailing list.

>

> I will start collecting the following of information

> 1. E-mails address of the person who is using this group to sell

their products.

> 2. Little bit details about the content to prove my claim.

>

> Thanks,

> -syed

>

> O'Conchubair <RNMSW wrote:

>

> The list owner makes the decisions about the list. He enforces

any rules he

> makes. It is up to him to poll us should he choose to do so.

> I am interested in learning about various products. Overlooking

typos and

> English as a second language, I would not have anything to do

with someone

> who is supposedly a professional yet cannot spell words they use

to convey

> their " expert " or " educated " information.

> Denise

> >

> > Dawn - we need to enforce the rules. That's like saying that

it's

> > just too bad if your boss sexually harasses you! No... we

should set

> > the rules and the listowner should enforce them. This is our

group

> > and if we don't want to be spammed or sold products by anyone on

the

> > list, we should decide what we want and make it happen.

> >

> > My opinion is mine of course.

> >

> > Thanks for expressing yours!

>

> i for one love all the new info i am gathering here. keep it all

coming. who has the time to start tracking and recording supposed

sales and or marketing of products. i say get a hobby, too much time

on your hands. this is america, cgarone19591955

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

At 02:30 PM 1/1/07, you wrote:

>I would say that it is the list owner's group, and if you don't like it,

>you are free to leave.

 

How rude... the list owner is like a person who is willing to carry

out some kind of democratic rule here... I don't think you should be

allowed to speak for the list owner, and I think he/she should make

rules that everyone can live with.

 

The poll was the best way to decide and I hope the list owner is not

you... Mr... Ms. Rude. Glad you don't rule my world.

 

Victoria

 

 

[Guest guest]

Sorry you can't stand facts. That was not intended to be rude, just

to point

out a fact to someone who claimed we all own the list.

 

Victoria Satta wrote:

 

> At 02:30 PM 1/1/07, you wrote:

> >I would say that it is the list owner's group, and if you don't like it,

> >you are free to leave.

>

> How rude... the list owner is like a person who is willing to carry

> out some kind of democratic rule here... I don't think you should be

> allowed to speak for the list owner, and I think he/she should make

> rules that everyone can live with.

>

> The poll was the best way to decide and I hope the list owner is not

> you... Mr... Ms. Rude. Glad you don't rule my world.

>

> Victoria

>

>

[Guest guest]

that is my point exactly. If someone is knowledgable ....I want to hear

their suggestions...even if they also suggest a product.

 

Monique

On Behalf Of Margi Crook

Monday, January 01, 2007 12:12 PM

Re: Re: using this group as a way to sell

products

 

 

Sharon had mentioned zeolite and I emailed her privately and have

ordered some.

She does not push her web page on the list, but she is a very

knowledgeable lady

and I am glad she talked about this product.

Margi

 

Kathleen Ramsey wrote:

 

> I have bought several products I did not know existed. If they have

> something good then go for it. If the person has taken the product and

> really believes in it they should be able to advertise it. If they

message

> you privately and try to sell you stuff without you asking then they

> should

> be removed. I am going to try the zeolite for sure. I am a naturopath

and

> have many patients needing wanting celation but it is hard on you to

> remove

> the toxins through the liver. This product seems like it might work, had

> susan not mentioned it I would have never know about it. Thanks Kathy

>

>

> <%40>

> [

> <%40>] On Behalf Of gabe

> Monday, January 01, 2007 12:22 PM

>

> <%40>

> Re: using this group as a way to sell

> products

>

> In seeing today's digest still mentioning this I think it should be a

> consideration to pose to the group, should we simply set up some sort of

> bylaw that states anyone attempting to sell loses membership? Or should

we

> agree to keep it to a minimum and eat our comments? Seriously, I am

> usually

> eager to read today's digest for hints and news in the alternative

> world and

> all of this negativity and back and forth to sell or not to sell is

> just not

> working for us and our overarching goals. How should we move it forward

so

> it's not such an issue in the future?

>

> Just trying to bring some action to alleviating one more headache

>

> Happy New Year all!

>

>

[Guest guest]

My concern is that sincere people would not get the

appropriate refferal if they are unable to know what

site to go or might go to a bogus site. Let us

controll marketing but not refferals if that is

possile eg give a name and a number to obtain an

address.

--- evelynarizona <evelynarizona wrote:

 

> I really like to hear everything about the health

> products that are out

> their. I have found some fantastic products through

> MLM companies. So I say

> let people talk about their products. It is easy to

> delete it if you are

> not interested.

>

> Evelyn

>

>

>

>

>

> ----

>

>

>

> hrd2hldrls

>

> 1/2/2007 11:35:55 AM

>

>

>

> RE: Re: using this

> group as a way to sell

> products

>

>

>

> that is my point exactly. If someone is knowledgable

> ....I want to hear

>

> their suggestions...even if they also suggest a

> product.

>

>

>

> Monique

>

>

>

>

>

> On Behalf

> Of Margi Crook

>

> Monday, January 01, 2007 12:12 PM

>

>

>

> Re: Re: using this

> group as a way to sell

>

> products

>

>

>

> Sharon had mentioned zeolite and I emailed her

> privately and have

>

> ordered some.

>

> She does not push her web page on the list, but she

> is a very

>

> knowledgeable lady

>

> and I am glad she talked about this product.

>

> Margi

>

>

>

> Kathleen Ramsey wrote:

>

>

>

> > I have bought several products I did not know

> existed. If they have

>

> > something good then go for it. If the person has

> taken the product and

>

> > really believes in it they should be able to

> advertise it. If they

>

> message

>

> > you privately and try to sell you stuff without

> you asking then they

>

> > should

>

> > be removed. I am going to try the zeolite for

> sure. I am a naturopath

>

> and

>

> > have many patients needing wanting celation but it

> is hard on you to

>

> > remove

>

> > the toxins through the liver. This product seems

> like it might work, had

>

> > susan not mentioned it I would have never know

> about it. Thanks Kathy

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > <%40>

>

> > [

>

> > <%40>] On

> Behalf Of gabe

>

> > Monday, January 01, 2007 12:22 PM

>

> >

>

> > <%40>

>

> > Re: using this group

> as a way to sell

>

> > products

>

> >

>

> > In seeing today's digest still mentioning this I

> think it should be a

>

> > consideration to pose to the group, should we

> simply set up some sort of

>

> > bylaw that states anyone attempting to sell loses

> membership? Or should

>

> we

>

> > agree to keep it to a minimum and eat our

> comments? Seriously, I am

>

> > usually

>

> > eager to read today's digest for hints and news in

> the alternative

>

> > world and

>

> > all of this negativity and back and forth to sell

> or not to sell is

>

> > just not

>

> > working for us and our overarching goals. How

> should we move it forward

>

> so

>

> > it's not such an issue in the future?

>

> >

>

> > Just trying to bring some action to alleviating

> one more headache

>

> >

>

> > Happy New Year all!

>

> >

>

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

> >

>

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

> >

>

> >

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

=== message truncated ===

 

 

" Go into the world today and love the people you meet.

Let your presence light new lights in the hearts of people "

The late great Mother Theresa (R.I.P.) of Calcutta, India

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I really like to hear everything about the health products that are out

their. I have found some fantastic products through MLM companies. So I say

let people talk about their products. It is easy to delete it if you are

not interested.

 

Evelyn

 

 

 

 

 

----

 

 

 

hrd2hldrls

 

1/2/2007 11:35:55 AM

 

 

 

RE: Re: using this group as a way to sell

products

 

 

 

that is my point exactly. If someone is knowledgable ....I want to hear

 

their suggestions...even if they also suggest a product.

 

 

 

Monique

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Margi Crook

 

Monday, January 01, 2007 12:12 PM

 

 

 

Re: Re: using this group as a way to sell

 

products

 

 

 

Sharon had mentioned zeolite and I emailed her privately and have

 

ordered some.

 

She does not push her web page on the list, but she is a very

 

knowledgeable lady

 

and I am glad she talked about this product.

 

Margi

 

 

 

Kathleen Ramsey wrote:

 

 

 

> I have bought several products I did not know existed. If they have

 

> something good then go for it. If the person has taken the product and

 

> really believes in it they should be able to advertise it. If they

 

message

 

> you privately and try to sell you stuff without you asking then they

 

> should

 

> be removed. I am going to try the zeolite for sure. I am a naturopath

 

and

 

> have many patients needing wanting celation but it is hard on you to

 

> remove

 

> the toxins through the liver. This product seems like it might work, had

 

> susan not mentioned it I would have never know about it. Thanks Kathy

 

>

 

>

 

> <%40>

 

> [

 

> <%40>] On Behalf Of gabe

 

> Monday, January 01, 2007 12:22 PM

 

>

 

> <%40>

 

> Re: using this group as a way to sell

 

> products

 

>

 

> In seeing today's digest still mentioning this I think it should be a

 

> consideration to pose to the group, should we simply set up some sort of

 

> bylaw that states anyone attempting to sell loses membership? Or should

 

we

 

> agree to keep it to a minimum and eat our comments? Seriously, I am

 

> usually

 

> eager to read today's digest for hints and news in the alternative

 

> world and

 

> all of this negativity and back and forth to sell or not to sell is

 

> just not

 

> working for us and our overarching goals. How should we move it forward

 

so

 

> it's not such an issue in the future?

 

>

 

> Just trying to bring some action to alleviating one more headache

 

>

 

> Happy New Year all!

 

>

 

>

[Guest guest]

Salam members,

 

I want to immigrate to new zealnd and for this purpose i need employment beofore

i process my application. Can some one guide and help me in this regard.

 

Best Regards,

 

 

Khalid

 

 

 

charlie <sunset_139

 

Monday, January 1, 2007 3:11:36 AM

Re: using this group as a way to sell products

 

i feel the same way.but if you can guide someone

to find what they need and at a great price then

you have helped.

 

--- rosemary <marylamb47331@ > wrote:

 

> I joined this group because I like to try

> alternative methods of

> healing, and felt a group this size, others

> would have tried things.

> I DO NOT think this should be an avenue for

> people to try to sell their

> expensive products!!

>

> This is just my opinion.

>

>

 

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __

 

 

http://mail.