Back pain

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Diana Moore <thebowentechnique

 

Friday, April 20, 2007 12:07:43 AM

Re: Back pain

 

I would like to suggest to you Bowen Therapy. The great thing about

Bowen Therapy for Back Pain is that is strengthens the back so

treatment for your back should get less and less. Its pretty well

instant and a very gentle solution for Back Pain.

For someone in your area you can go to the official site:

http://www.bowtech. com

 

Also check out the Sanjaneevini Healing Cards - they are free to print

out and use. If you place a food product that you use on a regular

basis (milk or jug of water?) you will be getting a homeopathic dose

each time you drink it.

http://www.bowenthe rapy.homestead. com/healingcards .html

 

All the best

Diana Moore

New Zealand

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There are a lot of good ideas in here. I think you could boil it down

to....

 

1) getting some immediate relief from your spasms (with the help of a

chiropractor, massage therapist, acupuncturist, bowen therapist or

something else)

 

2) change any movement patterns, posture patterns and muscle

imbalances you have than may be contributing to it and possibly other

conditions (a Viniyoga therapist or physical therapist should be able

to help you)

 

3) look at any diet factors that may be contributing (I'd recommend

reading the " Anti Inflammation Zone " by Barry Sears)

 

4) address any contributing emotional issues - EFT, meditation, the

release technique and other things can help with that (EFT is pretty

quick and easy and you can learn a basic routine at www.

EFTEmotionalFreedomTechnique .com

 

Good luck

Pamela

 

, Jenny Kernan

<rainysnana wrote:

>

> Couple of things that cause back ache:

>

> 1.Improper fitting shoes and high heels. Heels should

> never be over 1/2 " in height. Beside High heels create

> terrible swayback and throws spine completely out of

> alignment and cause bunions from misalignment of the

> balls of the feet.

>

> 2.Tight jeans don't allow the proper movement of the

> spine and bind it.

>

> 3.Improper lifting. You should bend at the knee and

> lift, not bend over and pick up.

>

> 4.Sitting at a desk without feet being proped up 8 " or

> more puts strain on the lower back.

>

> Just a few tips the Dr. gave me for my back.

>

> Jenny Kernan

>

>

>

>

> --- Toni Roberts <TRobertsLMT wrote:

>

> > If nothing shows up on your orthpedist's x-ray, you

> > might take those x-rays

> > to an osteopath or a chiropractor. They look at

> > them a little differently.

> > The problem may lie simply in the muscles, for which

> > a massage therapist of

> > physical therapist may be your solution. A

> > craniosacral therapist or

> > structural integrator may also be able to help you.

> >

> > As far as keeping your back healthy, the first thing

> > you might do is

> > evaluate your activity level. If this happened

> > during a weight lifting

> > session, there may be something in your exercise

> > that puts your back at

> > risk. Are your weights too heavy? Are you lifting

> > correctly? Are you

> > elongating those muscles before and after lifting

> > with stretching? Getting

> > regular massage? A session or two with a weight

> > trainer may help you get

> > your routine corrected. Is there something

> > work-related that may be harming

> > your back.

> >

> > Also, look to your nutrition. Are you getting

> > enough protein and other

> > nutritional factors to rebuild your muscles after

> > you lift? Enough calcium

> > for your bones? Look to your posture. Americans are

> > notorious slouchers,

> > which over time wears out a perfectly good back.

> > T'ai Chi has been very

> > helpful to me for my posture.

> >

> > Are there weight lifting organizations in your area

> > that may give you some

> > training and wellness tips?

> >

> > Toni

> >

> > On 17 Apr 2007 09:17:42 -0700, ash_shkh

> > <ash_shkh wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi I am new to this group and its nice to know

> > that people are getting

> > > the solutions to their prob from all over the

> > world.

> > >

> > > I would like to know, How to keep my back healthy?

> > I go to Gym

> > > regularly and in recent past while lifting the

> > weight I got a muscular

> > > spasm which is still bothering me for last 20

> > days. I removed the

> > > X-ray and Dr said their is no prob with the bones.

> > I am 38 yrs. Pls

> > > advice. Tks

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > --

> > In wellness,

> > Toni D. Roberts, BA, LMT

> > Cumberland Muscle Therapy

> > 2470 Windy Hill Road SE, Suite 227

> > Marietta, Georgia 30067-8617

> >

> > (770) 984-8040

> > forums

> > www.cumberlandmuscletherapy.com

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

From my experience, may I add 2 more causes.

1. Irritable colon/bowel(Ref.:-Edger Cayce)

2. Allergy to trees. (If the onset is seasonal, think of this too)

MM

================

Jenny Kernan wrote:

> Couple of things that cause back ache:

>

> 1.Improper fitting shoes and high heels. Heels should

> never be over 1/2 " in height. Beside High heels create

> terrible swayback and throws spine completely out of

> alignment and cause bunions from misalignment of the

> balls of the feet.

>

> 2.Tight jeans don't allow the proper movement of the

> spine and bind it.

>

> 3.Improper lifting. You should bend at the knee and

> lift, not bend over and pick up.

>

> 4.Sitting at a desk without feet being proped up 8 " or

> more puts strain on the lower back.

>

> Just a few tips the Dr. gave me for my back.

>

> Jenny Kernan

[Guest guest]

Hi Ash !

 

For your back pain you take homeo medicine ARNICA - 10 M three drops during

bed time obly for one day to be followed by Bryonia Album - 1m - three drops

in every alternate 3 days during bed time for 4 weeks for a complete

recovery. Should there be any query you may log me on

subratadashomoeo

 

Dr Subrata Das

 

 

> " ash_shkh " <ash_shkh

>

>

> Back pain

>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 06:25:38 -0000

>

>Hi I am new to this group and its nice to know that people are getting

>the solutions to their prob from all over the world.

>

>I would like to know, How to keep my back healthy? I go to Gym

>regularly and in recent past while lifting the weight I got a muscular

>spasm which is still bothering me for last 20 days. I removed the

>X-ray and Dr said their is no prob with the bones. I am 38 yrs. Pls

>advice. Tks

>

>

>

 

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Hi, I am from and live in Venezuela. I am new in this group. Although my mother

tongue is spanish, I'm going to try to do my best writing to you in English . I

recommend you for keeping your back healthy the following: Practicing Pilates

and yoga can help you a lot to strengthen your back. In the gym you can also

do some exercises like hiperextensiones (in Spanish) and one we call " Good

Morning " . And if you have the pain, try to find the Just Products, they are

swiss natural products. You can use the Juniper Cream and the herbal Oil 31, mix

them and massage your back. You feel the relief inmediatly and you don't have to

take any pills. This is the web site: www.swissjustamerica.com.

Noelia

 

 

 

Subrata das <subratadashomoeo escribió:

Hi Ash !

 

For your back pain you take homeo medicine ARNICA - 10 M three drops during

bed time obly for one day to be followed by Bryonia Album - 1m - three drops

in every alternate 3 days during bed time for 4 weeks for a complete

recovery. Should there be any query you may log me on

subratadashomoeo

 

Dr Subrata Das

 

> " ash_shkh " <ash_shkh

>

>

> Back pain

>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 06:25:38 -0000

>

>Hi I am new to this group and its nice to know that people are getting

>the solutions to their prob from all over the world.

>

>I would like to know, How to keep my back healthy? I go to Gym

>regularly and in recent past while lifting the weight I got a muscular

>spasm which is still bothering me for last 20 days. I removed the

>X-ray and Dr said their is no prob with the bones. I am 38 yrs. Pls

>advice. Tks

>

>

>

 

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Good Morning, D,

 

Thank you for your post. Here is some information from our archive

you may want to forward to your friend. These are exercises and

herbal remedies that may help:

 

Exercise is very important on so many levels.

 

Proper alignment of the head over the shoulders over the hips over

the knees over the feet, are imperative in maintaining a pain-free

body. Firm abdominal muscles help to keep the back straight and

strong. Bad posture habits can lock your muscles into positions you

are not even aware your body is taking which can put unwanted strain

on the lower back.

 

Exercise conditioning and stretching can improve certain pains with

stretching such as painful, stiff muscles and joints by increasing

blood flow to these areas. Weight baring exercises are beneficial for

improving strength and bone density. Restoring movement and normal

function to an injured area is critical. Learn to stretch to improve

your flexibility.

 

Exercise increases the output of endorphins, which are hormones your

body produces to fight pain.

 

Serotonin is a hormone that assists the flexibility of our blood

vessels. Exercise increases the brain's supply of serotonin. This is

important because when blood vessels are flexible, they are less

likely to cause pain or irritation. Serotonin also improves mood,

helps regulate sleep cycles and fights the pain response in the

brain. It fights pain by blocking the brain's perception of pain.

 

Estrogen, the sex hormone that can interfere with serotonin, is

stabilize with exercise.

 

Exercise should include cardiovascular aerobic activity 3- 4 times

weekly. Weight baring exercise for 30 minutes to strengthen and

maintain bone and muscle mass.

 

Exercise that promotes endurance (aerobic exercise such as brisk

walking, bicycling, and jogging) or muscle strength (resistance

training with free weights or weight machines) helps prevent coronary

artery disease. People who are out of shape or who have not exercised

in a long time should consult their doctor before they start an

exercise program.

 

Properly stretch and warm up before placing any physical demands on

your body and pay attention to what you body is telling you. Stop

exercising before you feel pain or discomfort.

 

Your doctor can provide a safe and effective exercise plan based on

your needs.

 

Be careful not to over exercise! Weekend warriors also have a

tendency to " push " to hard to makeup for the time they have not

exercised during the week. The two MOST BENEFICIAL exercises you can

do to strengthen your back and relieve pain are the BACK STRENGTHENER

and ABDOMINAL WORK.

 

Exercise: The Back Strengthener

 

Do this exercise up to 4 times a day.

 

Lay on the floor, stomach down. Slowly lengthen out the spine as you

raise one arm and the opposite leg. Exhale as you raise up into an

arch. Hold this as your take two deep breaths. Slowly release back to

the floor. Inhale, as your raise up the other arm and opposite leg,

exhale. Hold this arch agian for two deep breaths. Lower down.

Inhale. Then raise both arms, leaving both feet on the floor. Exhale.

Hold the arch as you take two deep breaths. Slowly lower down.

Inhale. Raise both feet off the ground, leaving both arms on the

floor. Exhale. Hold the arch for two deep breaths. Slowly lower down.

Inhale. Lastly, raise both arms and both legs off the floor. Exhale.

Hold this full arch for two deep breaths. Slowly lower down. Inhale.

Repeat entire sequence one more time. This exercise should flow

easily with the breath. (Always feel the energy pulling out in both

directions from the top of the head and hands and out the bottom of

the feet.) Try to arch up further each time. This amazing exercise

will relieve back pain!

 

 

Exercise: Abdominal Work

 

Ab work can be done on a daily basis. By strengthening the abdominal

wall you are helping to support the lower back. 300, 400, 500 situps

are not only a waste of time but allows for that many more attempts

to injure yourself. It is the quality not the quantity of sit ups

that makes all the difference. SLOW and controlled is the most

powerful approach. Stretching a sore back will actually enhance the

healing process. One good stretch for lower back pain is to gently

bring your knees up to your chest. Once there, put a little pressure

on your knees. Stretch, then relax. Repeat. Stretching will help the

muscle calm down sooner than just waiting for it to calm down on its

own.

 

Exercise: Sciatic Pain

 

Sciatic pain is generally the result of pressure on the sciatic

nerve. When an intervertebral disc presses on the nerve root as it

leaves the spine it causes pain and often numbness along the route of

the nerve which travels down the buttock, down the thigh and

sometimes down into the lower leg. This can result in a feeling of

weakness as well. This is sometimes caused by a disc prolapsed

or " slipped disc " . Since sciatic pain can be the result of a disc

prolapsed, it is the prolapse that we need to understand. The

prolapse is most often the result of a harmful habit or pattern of

bending and putting stress on the spine. A herniated disc in the

back, spinal stenosis and piriformis syndrome are also medical

disorders that can cause sciatica.

 

Stretching a sore back will actually enhance the healing process. One

good stretch for lower back pain is to gently bring your knees up to

your chest. Once there, put a little pressure on your knees. Stretch,

then relax. Repeat. Stretching will help the muscle calm down sooner

than just waiting for it to calm down on its own.

 

A variation on this exercise is to lay on your back and gently bring

one knee up to the chest. Keep the opposite leg elongated along the

floor. Keep the energy of that foot moving out through the foot.

Squeeze and hold the knee to the chest. You can make small circles

with the knee. Pull your abs in and slowly lower the knee. Switch

sides.

 

Stabilizing exercises are also best for strengthening the back. The

most important aspect is sensing and controlling motion in the spine.

Once learned, the body can eventually take over and do this without

the level of concentration it takes early on.

 

 

Exercise 1.

 

In a standing position, cross right ankle over left knee. Now slowly

bend your standing leg. Sit back in the position so you feel a

stretch in the buttocks. To increase this stretch, use one hand and

gently evert your foot by simple pulling the toes toward you. Keep

the foot on the knee. Make sure you sit back into the buttocks in

this sitting position. Switch legs.

 

 

Exercise 2.

 

Laying on the floor with knees bent, arms at sides, tighten abdomen

and slowly raise alternate legs 3-4 inches from the floor. With the

arms, lower the opposite arm over the head.

 

 

Exercise 3.

 

Laying on the floor with knees bent, feet on the floor, bridge

upward, slowly raising the buttocks from the floor. These should all

be performed with a rigid trunk. The pelvic tilt will be used to find

the most comfortable position for the low back.

 

 

Exercise 4.

 

This same pelvic position is maintained while performing stabilizing

exercises from the prone (on the stomach) position: With elbows bent

and hands under the shoulders, raise one leg 2 to 3 inches from the

floor. With elbows straight and arms stretched about the head, raise

an arm and the opposite leg 2 to 3 inches off the floor.

 

Exercise variation can be done on hands and knees, raising the arms

and legs only as high as can be controlled, maintaining a stable

trunk and avoiding any twisting or sagging.

 

Raise one leg behind with the knee slightly bent and no arch in the

back or neck. Raise one leg with the opposite arm with the knee

slightly bent and no arch in the back or neck.

 

Exercise: Piriformis Syndrome

 

Lay on your back and gently bring one knee up to the chest. Keep the

opposite leg elongated along the floor. Keep the energy of that foot

moving out through the foot. Squeeze and hold the knee to the chest.

You can make small circles with the knee. Pull your abs in and slowly

lower the knee. Now gently stretch the knee so that it crosses your

midline and hold the knee there for 15-30 seconds. Switch sides.

 

 

Herbal Remedies

 

The medicinal benefits of herbs have been recorded for centuries.

Herbs were extensively used to cure practically every known illness

and has been documented by Egyptian, Roman, Native American, Persians

and Hebrews alike. Many herbs contain powerful ingredients that, if

used correctly, can help heal the body. By using herbs in their

complete form, the body's healing process utilizes a balance of the

ingredients provided by nature.

 

Herbs and herbal formulas can be taken in a variety of ways.

 

*You may steep herbs as teas in order to release their healing

properties.

 

* Herbal supplements in pills and capsules are another form. These

are herbs ground into powder. Herbal formulas tend to be created for

a single problem or nest of related problems and their specific

pattern of disharmony.

 

* Tinctures. Herbal remedies are also prescribed in tincture form and

are the previously fresh herb in well preserved, highly concentrated

form. This liquid, as well as, concentrated forms of extracted herbs

are preserved in their freshest form.

 

*Steam distillation or cold pressing results in herbs as essential

oils.

 

* Plasters are ingredients such as oils, herbs and other pain

relieving herbs combined into an easy to use stick on strip or patch.

 

* Poultice are macerated or chopped herbs that are placed directly on

the skin and a hot, moist bandage is applied.

 

* Infusions are used when you are working with the most delicate part

of the herb-the leaves flowers, fruits and seeds.

 

* Decoction is used to extract the tougher part of the herb-bark,

berries and roots.

 

 

It is also important to note that since herbs contain active

ingredients, be aware that some elements may interact negatively with

prescribed medications! Therefore, your healthcare professional must

be notified if you have any questions about safety. As a general

rule: most of the bitter tasting herbs are medicinal herbs and the

pleasant tasting herbs are less toxic and can be used more often.

Also, some herbs in any form, should not be taken for more than seven

days at a time. Others herbs are more beneficial with time. The fresh

leaves, bark, and roots of herbs can be used in their natural form or

can be found in dried form and used in capsules, tablets, tinctures,

essential oils, powders, creams, lotions, and salves.

 

Herbal medicine is a wonderful solution for pain and trauma injuries.

Complications can arise when taking herbal medicine and allopathic

drugs internally, which your doctor has prescribed. Great caution

should be used especially if you are on blood thinners, diuretics or

heart related medication. Consult your doctor with any questions you

may have, before taking additional herbs or supplements, internally.

 

 

Arnica Suave is a natural pain reliever. Take homeopathic arnica,

internally 3-4 times daily. Massage arnica gel, cream or ointment

externally on painful areas.

 

Boswellia has unique anti-inflammatory action, much like the

conventional non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) used by

many for inflammatory conditions. Unlike NSAIDs, however, long-term

use of boswellia does not lead to irritation or ulceration of the

stomach.

 

Bromelain is a plant-enzyme. Bromelain is not actually a single

substance, but a group of protein-digesting enzymes found in

pineapple juice and in the stem of pineapple plants. Local swelling

is the releasing of histamines in a localized area causes the

vasodilation and increased permeability of blood vessels. Bromelain

has an anti-inflammatory effect and is a very effective treatment for

Rheumatoid Arthritis. It is recommend taking 200 to 400 milligrams

three times a day on an empty stomach at least ninety minutes before

or three hours after eating. Discontinue use if you develop any

itching or rash.

 

Cayenne Pepper (Capsaicin) A cream containing small amounts of

Capsaicin can help relieve pain when rubbed onto muscle pain and

arthritic joints, according to the results of a double blind study.

It does this by depleting the nerves of a pain-mediating

neurotransmitter known as substance P. Although application of

capsaicin cream may initially cause a burning feeling, the burning

will lessen with each application and soon disappear for most people.

A cream containing 0.025–0.075% of capsaicin can be applied to the

affected joints three to five times a day.

 

Devils Claw: An analgesic and anti-inflammatory. Dosage: one to two

grams, three times daily.

 

Ginger: An anti-inflammatory. Ginger has been used in Ayurvedic and

Chinese medicine as an anti-inflammatory. Taking 6–50 grams of fresh

or powdered ginger per day indicated that ginger might be helpful.

Suggested Dosage: 0.5 to 1 mg of powdered ginger daily

 

Ginger Tea: Add one grated teaspoon of fresh ginger to a cup of hot

water. Take two times daily.

 

Glucosamine sulfate (GS), a nutrient derived from sea shells,

contains a building block needed for the repair of joint cartilage.

GS has significantly reduced symptoms of osteoarthritis. All

published clinical investigations on the effects of GS in people with

osteoarthritis report statistically significant improvement. Most

research trials use 500 mg GS taken three times per day. Benefits

from GS generally become evident after three to eight weeks of

treatment. Avoid if you have any allergic reactions to shell fish.

 

Glucosamine stimulates the production of the specific elements of

cartilage and protects them. It helps your body repair worn

cartilage, reduce pain and improve function. Chondroitin attracts

fluids into proteoglycans, the molecules dispersed through out the

cartilage that give the tissue its shock-absorber quality, and

protects the cartilage against breakdown. These are substances the

body already produces for itself in small amounts.

 

Glucosamine is found in almost all tissue; it has a role in the

repair and maintenance of joint cartilage. Chondroitin sulfate is a

major component of cartilage and is thought to inhibit the enzymes

that contribute to the breakdown of cartilage.

 

S-adenosyl methionine (SAMe) possesses anti-inflammatory, pain-

relieving, and tissue-healing properties that may help protect the

health of joints.SAM-e is derived from methionine, an essential amino

acid; it may promote cartilage formation and repair. Glucosamine and

chondroitin sulfate are usually sold together. In clinical studies,

the supplements had to be taken for several weeks before providing

any pain relief. Don't forget the truly natural and proven methods

for battling osteoarthritis, lose excess weight and exercise.

 

Licorice root: An anti-inflammatory. Long-term use can elevate blood

pressure and increase potassium loss. Dosage: one-eighth to one-

quarter teaspoon of a 5: 1 solid extract up to three times daily.

 

Turmeric: An effective anti-inflammatory. Dosage: 400 mg three times

daily; take on an empty stomach and combine with 1,000 mg of

bromelain

 

White Willow Bark: Anti-inflammatory and pain-relieving effects.

White Willow bark has anti-inflammatory and pain-relieving effects.

Extracts providing 60–120 mg salicin per day are approved for people

with rheumatoid arthritis. Although the analgesic actions of willow

are typically slow-acting, they last longer than aspirin.

 

 

 

 

Andrew Pacholyk, MS, L.Ac

Peacefulmind.com

Therapies for healing

mind, body, spirit

[Guest guest]

I concur with the Pete Egoscue recommendation. He believes the body is

meant to be kinetic, moving, and doesn't get enough of it when we sit at our

working desks all day long. Interesting man.

 

Toni

 

On 5/8/07, Renee <gaiacita wrote:

>

> Tell your friend to get the paperback book Pain Free by Pete Egoscue. If

> he

> follows the simple stretches his pain will stop and never bother him

> again.

> When they first start doing the stretches (the book tells you exactly

> which

> ones to do) they'll have to set aside 40 minutes a day. After the pain is

> gone for 24 hours they can cut back to just 10 or 15 minutes a day to keep

> the pain away. I have had some people tell me that they " don't have 40

> minutes a day " . Well, then I told them to just continue having the pain.

> It will just depend on how badly your friend wants to be out of pain.

> These

> stretches are simple to do and you don't need to buy anything.

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Tell your friend to get the paperback book Pain Free by Pete Egoscue. If he

follows the simple stretches his pain will stop and never bother him again.

When they first start doing the stretches (the book tells you exactly which

ones to do) they'll have to set aside 40 minutes a day. After the pain is

gone for 24 hours they can cut back to just 10 or 15 minutes a day to keep

the pain away. I have had some people tell me that they " don't have 40

minutes a day " . Well, then I told them to just continue having the pain.

It will just depend on how badly your friend wants to be out of pain. These

stretches are simple to do and you don't need to buy anything.

 

Samala,

Renee

 

----

 

 

A friend of mine is experiencing back pain and is tired of popping

Tylenol for it...doesn't have money to see a chiropractor and wanted to

Know if there was an alternative herb-like remedy to alleviate some of

The pain. If anyone knows anything that might work, if you can drop me

A line. Thanks to everyone!

[Guest guest]

Hello, I am Dr.T.Sreekanth, u can tell ur friend to go for kati vasthi

which is comanly done to people with back pain in ayurveda. In modern

there is only symptomatic treatment otherwise u are supposed to go for

laminectomy.

 

Take care.

 

 

 

, " Renee " <gaiacita wrote:

>

> Tell your friend to get the paperback book Pain Free by Pete

Egoscue. If he

> follows the simple stretches his pain will stop and never bother him

again.

> When they first start doing the stretches (the book tells you

exactly which

> ones to do) they'll have to set aside 40 minutes a day. After the

pain is

> gone for 24 hours they can cut back to just 10 or 15 minutes a day

to keep

> the pain away. I have had some people tell me that they " don't have 40

> minutes a day " . Well, then I told them to just continue having the

pain.

> It will just depend on how badly your friend wants to be out of

pain. These

> stretches are simple to do and you don't need to buy anything.

>

> Samala,

> Renee

>

> ----

>

>

> A friend of mine is experiencing back pain and is tired of popping

> Tylenol for it...doesn't have money to see a chiropractor and wanted to

> Know if there was an alternative herb-like remedy to alleviate some of

> The pain. If anyone knows anything that might work, if you can drop me

> A line. Thanks to everyone!

>

[Guest guest]

Renee-- Thank you so much and I must definitely will!

 

Renee <gaiacita wrote: Tell your friend to get the

paperback book Pain Free by Pete Egoscue. If he

follows the simple stretches his pain will stop and never bother him again.

When they first start doing the stretches (the book tells you exactly which

ones to do) they'll have to set aside 40 minutes a day. After the pain is

gone for 24 hours they can cut back to just 10 or 15 minutes a day to keep

the pain away. I have had some people tell me that they " don't have 40

minutes a day " . Well, then I told them to just continue having the pain.

It will just depend on how badly your friend wants to be out of pain. These

stretches are simple to do and you don't need to buy anything.

 

Samala,

Renee

 

----

 

 

A friend of mine is experiencing back pain and is tired of popping

Tylenol for it...doesn't have money to see a chiropractor and wanted to

Know if there was an alternative herb-like remedy to alleviate some of

The pain. If anyone knows anything that might work, if you can drop me

A line. Thanks to everyone!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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, " solema97 " <solema97

wrote:

>

> Hi There!

>

> A friend of mine is experiencing back pain and is tired of popping

> tylenol for it...doesnt have money to see a chiropractor and wanted

to

> know if there was an alternative herb-like remedy to alleviate some

of

> the pain. If anyone knows anything that might work, if you can

drop me

> a line. Thanks to everyone!

>

> ~D

>

Hi 'D', Don't treat the symptom treat the cause. Your friend has a

body imbalance which needs correcting. If your friend can't afford

treatment, I have an exercise sheet that will do the same job over a

period of time. Send me an email for a complimentary copy. Anybody.

 

Regards, Don Moody nasalb0ne.

[Guest guest]

---a lot youcould try such as a castor oil pack placed on the area

infra red heat

 

 

Castor oil is also used on any arthritic, rheumatic, or muscular and

joint pain as unction. Basically an infra red lamp is placed 12-18

inches from the part to be massaged. Apply the castor oil on the

painful area and let the lamp warm it and this will help the oil to

penetrate the skin, this done for about 5-10 mins. Then keep rubbing

with the fingers and hand until the oil is worked in. Keep putting

more oil on and massaging continued for 10-60 mins. Massage was also

very helpful, to be given usually after another treatment such as an

Epsom salt bath.

 

If the reaction to colonics and enemas was to severe, emphasis was

placed on gentler methods such as Epsom salt baths, steam baths and a

diet rich in laxative foods.

Epsom salt baths were in a range of five pounds of Epsom salts to

about 20 galls of water for a modern tub and 8-10 pounds for an old

tub. Be in the tub for about 10-12 mins to start with and then work up

to 20 mins. Further stimulation to the body could be given with using

massage or rubbing the extremities of the body while in the bath. Temp

of bath was to be as hot as possible up to the point of pain.

Epsom salt packs can be also applied when needed over areas of extreme

pain. The salts apparently act by drawing out toxins. you can also

immerse any local part of the body in a smaller basin too with people

who have arthritic hands or other parts of the body. also you can form

a pack ,by dissolving say 1 pound of salts in a small basin or pot and

as much water necessary to saturate a towel. apply as hot as possible

over the area indicated and keep repeating the applications for 2-3

hrs .where possible use an infra red lamp or other means to keep the

pack hot. Where there is crippling of the joints of the hands, pain

of arthritis or inflammation of the tendons considerable relief can be

found by using an Epsom salt bath and massage. Use a large quantity of

the salts about 1 pound in the water though, not just a spoon full.

Soak the affected area for about 5 mins and then massage the affected

area under water, rotate the joints and soak again for another 5-10 mins.

In , " solema97 " <solema97 wrote:

>

> Hi There!

>

> A friend of mine is experiencing back pain and is tired of popping

> tylenol for it...doesnt have money to see a chiropractor and wanted to

> know if there was an alternative herb-like remedy to alleviate some of

> the pain. If anyone knows anything that might work, if you can drop me

> a line. Thanks to everyone!

>

> ~D

>

[Guest guest]

Stretch anterior muscles especially psoas.

 

pjb12345uk <pho wrote: ---a lot youcould try such as a

castor oil pack placed on the area

infra red heat

 

Castor oil is also used on any arthritic, rheumatic, or muscular and

joint pain as unction. Basically an infra red lamp is placed 12-18

inches from the part to be massaged. Apply the castor oil on the

painful area and let the lamp warm it and this will help the oil to

penetrate the skin, this done for about 5-10 mins. Then keep rubbing

with the fingers and hand until the oil is worked in. Keep putting

more oil on and massaging continued for 10-60 mins. Massage was also

very helpful, to be given usually after another treatment such as an

Epsom salt bath.

 

If the reaction to colonics and enemas was to severe, emphasis was

placed on gentler methods such as Epsom salt baths, steam baths and a

diet rich in laxative foods.

Epsom salt baths were in a range of five pounds of Epsom salts to

about 20 galls of water for a modern tub and 8-10 pounds for an old

tub. Be in the tub for about 10-12 mins to start with and then work up

to 20 mins. Further stimulation to the body could be given with using

massage or rubbing the extremities of the body while in the bath. Temp

of bath was to be as hot as possible up to the point of pain.

Epsom salt packs can be also applied when needed over areas of extreme

pain. The salts apparently act by drawing out toxins. you can also

immerse any local part of the body in a smaller basin too with people

who have arthritic hands or other parts of the body. also you can form

a pack ,by dissolving say 1 pound of salts in a small basin or pot and

as much water necessary to saturate a towel. apply as hot as possible

over the area indicated and keep repeating the applications for 2-3

hrs .where possible use an infra red lamp or other means to keep the

pack hot. Where there is crippling of the joints of the hands, pain

of arthritis or inflammation of the tendons considerable relief can be

found by using an Epsom salt bath and massage. Use a large quantity of

the salts about 1 pound in the water though, not just a spoon full.

Soak the affected area for about 5 mins and then massage the affected

area under water, rotate the joints and soak again for another 5-10 mins.

In , " solema97 " <solema97 wrote:

>

> Hi There!

>

> A friend of mine is experiencing back pain and is tired of popping

> tylenol for it...doesnt have money to see a chiropractor and wanted to

> know if there was an alternative herb-like remedy to alleviate some of

> the pain. If anyone knows anything that might work, if you can drop me

> a line. Thanks to everyone!

>

> ~D

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

At 11:12 PM 7/20/2007, you wrote:

>How about if I start something for everyone to comment on. I am a massage

>therapist. I like this group because I learn about the oils and herbs that

>I can use. For example, I have someone with low back pain which oils

>would be the best to use? Which carriers are best to put that oil in? Can

>you make a soap or lotion that the client can put on that will help?

 

We'll start with the carrier...my first choice would be St. John's Wort

infused oil... it's a powerful anti-inflammatory and pain reliever all by

itself, before you add any essential oils....

 

(and I don't think a wash off product, like a soap, would be much good!...

a lotion, perhaps...using one of the hydrosols might help.)

 

for essential oils...we've had good luck with a blend of helichrysum

italicuum, from Corsica...the most powerful anti-inflammatory I know

of, black pepper, for stimulating circulation, and lavandin, for

relaxation and pain relief. You might also look at one of the

anti-spasmodic oils if your find that there are muscle spasms involved in

triggering the pain... but if the pain is from pressure on or inflammation

of the nerves, the above is the most effective blend I know of.

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Exactly where in your back?

 

Your lower back, below your waste - above it?

 

Or your upper back?

 

Dede

 

 

, " dhananjay " <dkss13

wrote:

>

> I have a back pain for 3 months. What should I do?

> Pls reply me.

>

[Guest guest]

Have you seen a Chiropractor? If not I suggest you do so. I see my

Chiropractor on a regular basis and the job he has done in keeping me well

is amazing!

 

Lyndall

 

 

----

 

dhananjay

26/07/2007 5:16:58 AM

 

Back pain

 

I have a back pain for 3 months. What should I do?

Pls reply me.

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I have been a nurse for 35 years- if you go to most doctors- they

would give you pain pills and maybe some Physical therapy. Eventually-

your back would get better.

I have also been a massage therapist for 10 years and I have seen

people almost not be able to walk in the door- leaving with smiles on

their face. It works. See if you can find someone that knows

something about tuning forks- it really makes a difference when

dealing with muscles that are " out of whack " .

I wish you all the best in finding a practioner- there are 1,000's of

us now nationwide so just google to find someone.

Sending you healing of light,

Pat

 

, " Tazidevil "

<devil.tas wrote:

>

>

> Have you seen a Chiropractor? If not I suggest you do so. I see

my

> Chiropractor on a regular basis and the job he has done in keeping

me well

> is amazing!

>

> Lyndall

>

>

> ----

>

> dhananjay

> 26/07/2007 5:16:58 AM

>

> Back pain

>

> I have a back pain for 3 months. What should I do?

> Pls reply me.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dhananjay,

I had back pain for about 6-7 years but I am completely cured now. I tried many

things, chi kung, acupressure, chinese herbal medicines, chiropractor, tai chi.

They all gave me some relief but not complete cure. Complete cure came from Yoga

stretching exercises. Use Sw. Ram Dev's CDs. Start with Pranayam, in the

beginning start with a few repetitions and gradually increase. After 1-2

months start doing Yoga Asasans. Do not strain yourself in the beginning,

gradually build up. You will see tremendous improvement in your help and

complete relief from backpain. If it is very bad right now, take some med.

Afterwards start with Pranayam then Asanas.

 

Best of luck and speedy recovery.

 

T. Atul

 

dhananjay <dkss13 wrote: I have a

back pain for 3 months. What should I do?

Pls reply me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

For muscle spasms, I would add magnesium to my diet and if you aren't taking

calcium already, balance it w/calcium and D

 

Marsha and the Yorkies

http://www.miracleyorkies.com

 

 

[Guest guest]

dear pammi,

hw s life?, i have come to know tht ur

suffering from back pain.ok? no worries

ok

you should chooose some back muscles excercises which

can make them strong,actually back muscles get weeeek

u wlll start feeling back pain, if u need to

cexcerises i can show you, bt inform me, ok

tk cr, and take exversies daily pls

 

Regards,

yadvinder

--- pammi <dilberxxx wrote:

 

> I had muscle spasm in july .After that I am having

> back pain

> consistently

> pl help

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi pammi,I am Elaine, and I suffered from back pain so much, they operated on

me---bad thing to do!!!!

I had 4 more after that; I still hurt, use a cane for small distances,

wheelchair after that!!!

I am so sad that I let them operate, but how was I to do???I hope anybody

reading this will never have back surgery. Do you have a bike rider? That is

good exercise.

 

God Bless you,

Elaine

 

 

 

: gemni35romantic: Fri,

2 Nov 2007 08:47:20 -0700Re: back pain

 

 

 

 

dear pammi,hw s life?, i have come to know tht ursuffering from back pain.ok? no

worriesokyou should chooose some back muscles excercises whichcan make them

strong,actually back muscles get weeeeku wlll start feeling back pain, if u need

tocexcerises i can show you, bt inform me, oktk cr, and take exversies daily

plsRegards,yadvinder --- pammi <dilberxxx wrote:> I had muscle spasm

in july .After that I am having> back pain > consistently> pl help> >

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[Guest guest]

, " curtis_lloyd2002 "

<clloyd58 wrote:

>

> anyone has a natural remedy for lower back pain?

>

 

Hi,

 

I think ultimately you should consider looking into the origin of your

lower back pain. I suffer from chronic lower back issues because I

used to ride a motorcylce and didn't have the core strength to support

driving 50 miles on Los Angeles roads everyday. I eventually

stretched some ligaments in my sacroilliac joint and now have problems

whenever I get out of shape. My treatment involves staying fit in my

core so that the ligaments don't have to do the job of supporting the

joint on their own. Hurray for pilates. I use chiropractic care to

release the joint when I have a flare up, and massage therapy to take

the muscles out of spasm (the muscles form a natural splint around the

joint so I don't cause further injury). My point here being that your

lower back pain probably has a cause and finding that cause in key to

resolving your pain.

 

Recently I began experimenting with a posture correction regimen

called " The Egoscue Method " . The author's premise is that our body is

like a scaffolding that one builds when painting one's very tall

house. If the joints of the scaffolding are out of alignment, then

the scaffolding will be week and may fall. The joints of our body are

similar--designed to be in horizontal and vertical alignment, if we

get out of alignment our joints will be placed under stress they

weren't designed for, and our muscles will try to do jobs they weren't

built for. And this will lead to pain.

 

Personal testimony to the effectiveness of this program: the day I

started these exercises to address chronic foot pain and inpending

arthritis in my foot, the pain went away and has not returned (I do

the exercises from time to time to make sure I'm still in alignment).

This despite doing 3-4 5K walks every week.

 

I also used these exercises to address my lower back issue, but was

doing my regular course of treatment (pilates, chiropractic, massage

therapy) so I think the results are confounded.

 

Finally, I used these exercises to address the fact that I work at a

computer, have somewhat slumped shoulders and carry my head in front

of me a little. Within days I was standing upright, my shoulders were

lose and had no pain, and my head was on top of my neck instead of in

front of it. Why is this important? The author of the book gives an

example: grab a kitchen pot and hold it straight above your head.

Easy, no? Now bring your arm a even just a few degrees out in front

of you--suddenly that pot got a whole lot heavier. The same with your

head and your body--head in front is a weight that your back (lower

back!) needs to carry.

 

Any way, I encourage you to look into Pete Egoscue's book " Pain Free "

or " Pain Free for Women " and investigate what about your life may lead

to lower back pain.

 

I'm happy to discuss; it's been 10 years with my injury and I expect

it to be a lifetime...but NOT a lifetime of pain.

 

Best wishes,

Tom

[Guest guest]

I had lower back pain from the chair I sat in at work. It hit

at just the wrong spot.

Another thing I noticed is that a belt would cause lower

back pain.

My husband started wearing suspenders and his back pain

quit

thea

 

 

--------- Forwarded message ----------

" rileyinhp " <elarrocero

 

Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:15:54 -0000

Re: back pain

Message-ID: <fgqeha+rvc4 >

 

, " curtis_lloyd2002 "

<clloyd58 wrote:

>

> anyone has a natural remedy for lower back pain?

>

 

Hi,

 

I think ultimately you should consider looking into the origin of your

lower back pain. I suffer from chronic lower back issues because I

used to ride a motorcylce and didn't have the core strength to support

driving 50 miles on Los Angeles roads everyday. I eventually

stretched some ligaments in my sacroilliac joint and now have problems

whenever I get out of shape. My treatment involves staying fit in my

core so that the ligaments don't have to do the job of supporting the

joint on their own. Hurray for pilates. I use chiropractic care to

release the joint when I have a flare up, and massage therapy to take

the muscles out of spasm (the muscles form a natural splint around the

joint so I don't cause further injury). My point here being that your

lower back pain probably has a cause and finding that cause in key to

resolving your pain.

 

Recently I began experimenting with a posture correction regimen

called " The Egoscue Method " . The author's premise is that our body is

like a scaffolding that one builds when painting one's very tall

house. If the joints of the scaffolding are out of alignment, then

the scaffolding will be week and may fall. The joints of our body are

similar--designed to be in horizontal and vertical alignment, if we

get out of alignment our joints will be placed under stress they

weren't designed for, and our muscles will try to do jobs they weren't

built for. And this will lead to pain.

 

Personal testimony to the effectiveness of this program: the day I

started these exercises to address chronic foot pain and inpending

arthritis in my foot, the pain went away and has not returned (I do

the exercises from time to time to make sure I'm still in alignment).

This despite doing 3-4 5K walks every week.

 

I also used these exercises to address my lower back issue, but was

doing my regular course of treatment (pilates, chiropractic, massage

therapy) so I think the results are confounded.

 

Finally, I used these exercises to address the fact that I work at a

computer, have somewhat slumped shoulders and carry my head in front

of me a little. Within days I was standing upright, my shoulders were

lose and had no pain, and my head was on top of my neck instead of in

front of it. Why is this important? The author of the book gives an

example: grab a kitchen pot and hold it straight above your head.

Easy, no? Now bring your arm a even just a few degrees out in front

of you--suddenly that pot got a whole lot heavier. The same with your

head and your body--head in front is a weight that your back (lower

back!) needs to carry.

 

Any way, I encourage you to look into Pete Egoscue's book " Pain Free "

or " Pain Free for Women " and investigate what about your life may lead

to lower back pain.

 

I'm happy to discuss; it's been 10 years with my injury and I expect

it to be a lifetime...but NOT a lifetime of pain.

 

Best wishes,

Tom

 

 

 

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Hey to all sufferer from lower back pain (small of the back),

 

You can take homoeo medicine Bryonia Alb - 1M 3 to 4 drops during bed time in

every Monday and Thursday till it is off. While the medicine is on don't take

any sour items.

 

Dr Subrata Das

 

 

: nobltn528: Wed, 7 Nov

2007 04:22:51 -0600Fw: Re: back pain

 

 

 

 

I had lower back pain from the chair I sat in at work. It hitat just the wrong

spot.Another thing I noticed is that a belt would cause lowerback pain.My

husband started wearing suspenders and his back painquitthea--------- Forwarded

message ---------- " rileyinhp " <elarroceroTo:

: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:15:54 -0000Subject:

Re: back painMessage-ID: <fgqeha+rvc4 >--- In

, " curtis_lloyd2002 " <clloyd58 wrote:>>

anyone has a natural remedy for lower back pain?>Hi,I think ultimately you

should consider looking into the origin of yourlower back pain. I suffer from

chronic lower back issues because Iused to ride a motorcylce and didn't have the

core strength to supportdriving 50 miles on Los Angeles roads everyday. I

eventuallystretched some ligaments in my sacroilliac joint and now have

problemswhenever I get out of shape. My treatment involves staying fit in mycore

so that the ligaments don't have to do the job of supporting thejoint on their

own. Hurray for pilates. I use chiropractic care torelease the joint when I have

a flare up, and massage therapy to takethe muscles out of spasm (the muscles

form a natural splint around thejoint so I don't cause further injury). My point

here being that yourlower back pain probably has a cause and finding that cause

in key toresolving your pain.Recently I began experimenting with a posture

correction regimencalled " The Egoscue Method " . The author's premise is that our

body islike a scaffolding that one builds when painting one's very tallhouse. If

the joints of the scaffolding are out of alignment, thenthe scaffolding will be

week and may fall. The joints of our body aresimilar--designed to be in

horizontal and vertical alignment, if weget out of alignment our joints will be

placed under stress theyweren't designed for, and our muscles will try to do

jobs they weren'tbuilt for. And this will lead to pain.Personal testimony to the

effectiveness of this program: the day Istarted these exercises to address

chronic foot pain and inpendingarthritis in my foot, the pain went away and has

not returned (I dothe exercises from time to time to make sure I'm still in

alignment).This despite doing 3-4 5K walks every week. I also used these

exercises to address my lower back issue, but wasdoing my regular course of

treatment (pilates, chiropractic, massagetherapy) so I think the results are

confounded.Finally, I used these exercises to address the fact that I work at

acomputer, have somewhat slumped shoulders and carry my head in frontof me a

little. Within days I was standing upright, my shoulders werelose and had no

pain, and my head was on top of my neck instead of infront of it. Why is this

important? The author of the book gives anexample: grab a kitchen pot and hold

it straight above your head. Easy, no? Now bring your arm a even just a few

degrees out in frontof you--suddenly that pot got a whole lot heavier. The same

with yourhead and your body--head in front is a weight that your back

(lowerback!) needs to carry.Any way, I encourage you to look into Pete Egoscue's

book " Pain Free " or " Pain Free for Women " and investigate what about your life

may leadto lower back pain.I'm happy to discuss; it's been 10 years with my

injury and I expectit to be a lifetime...but NOT a lifetime of pain.Best

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hi menma,

u well cm, i am galde to cur mail, well ur

problem is nt tht much, u send me ur phone no i will

telll u to cure it, i am yoga teacger from india, so

send me ur conatct no pls.

 

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--- Menma F <menmaf wrote:

 

> Hi all...I am new to the group and looking for

> methods to treat my now chronic back pain and leg

> pain. I am in my 20s and have been diagnosed with

> moderate lumbar degenerative disc disease and mild

> arthritis. In the lumbar region I have several disk

> herniations and a disc tear.

>

> So far I have been in physical therapy twice (2

> months early on and now 5, since July). I work full

> time as a nurse (no lifting anymore though) and am

> taking 4 medications to cope with the pain --

> Celebrex, Tramadol, Gabapentin, Desipramine.

>

> I see a chriopracter weekly and a neuromuscular

> therapist weekly as well. I have also tried

> homeopathy as provided by a naturopathic doctor, and

> neurostructural integration technique. I do some

> yoga and spine ball

> therapy, but I need to be very careful with it as my

> back is

> reactive.

>

> I have also tried numerous supplements including

> glucosamine,

> white willow, proteolytic enzymes, zyflament,

> grapeseed extract,

> ginger, tumeric, celery seed. I have tried some

> essential oils

> topically, with a little relief.

>

> Overall I have seen some improvement but am becoming

> discouraged. So I am coming to this group at the end

> of my rope. If anyone has any suggestions I would

> greatly appreciate hearing them.

>

> Thanks,

> Menma

>

>

>

>

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