Guest guest Report post Posted July 9, 2009 Thanks for the info. Taking long soaking baths drive me a little crazy as I don't have the patience for that. Yes, it gets pretty expensive too. Darlene - Mike Golden oleander soup Thursday, July 09, 2009 1:04 AM Re: Magnesium What you are describing is useful, but not "efficient". Done this way most of the magnesium chloride will be wasted, most of it never coming in contact with the body. To make it efficient, as well as useful, make a saturated solution from of the magnesium chloride and put it in a spray bottle. Spray as much surface of the body as possible. Let it stay on the skin for 20 minutes or so, then take your relaxing warm bath. Mike Darlene Kurz <darrae.com>oleander soup Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 8:46:51 AM Magnesium I have just learned that Magnesium Chloride Flakes used in a tub of water for soaking in, is a very efficient way in getting it in your body.. I am told to draw hot water, add the flakes, then when the water is just warm, start soaking and soak for 20 minutes. If you soak in very warm water, the body will not absorb the product as efficiantly. Major problems may require soaking for 20 minutes and then wait 30 minutes and do it again for a total of 3 times. I ordered my product from a catalog and should be getting it this week.( I was surprised to learn that the company just charges $4.99 per total order of anything. A real savings since this produce must weigh quite a bit.) I have lymphoma in the skin, so along with all the other protocols I am doing, we will see if it will make a difference, especially since I have a history of leg cramps at night. Darlene - Gaiacita oleander soup Tuesday, July 07, 2009 7:21 AM Re: A must read for everyone Hi Mike. I don't know about clearing out hospitals, but magnesium deficiency is a real problem today. Almost everyone is mag deficient. But it is easily corrected by taking either an oral magnesium (not the store tablet type ones as they don't deliver much) or through external applications of mag "oil". Both methods are relatively cheap to make yourself. Samala, Renee -- -- This article discusses the connection between Calcium and cell mitochondria destruction. As we all know, cancer cells stop respiration and start generating energy through without use of Oxygen. Please read. I like to hear your opinions. Incidentally, I had Calcium kidney stones, Salivary gland stones for at least 10 - 15 years before I was diagnosed with cancer. I wonder if it has to do with Calcification. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 19, 2009 The Essential Nutrient Magnesium - Key to Mitochondrial ATP Production and Much More _http://www.prohealth.com/ME-CFS/library/showArticle.cfm?libid=14606 & B1=EM06 1009C_ (http://www.prohealth.com/ME-CFS/library/showArticle.cfm?libid=14606 & B1=EM061009C) by Andrea Rosanoff, PhD* June 8, 2009 **While it was estimated in 1968 that magnesium was a required cofactor for over 300 enzyme systems, that number is now more reliably estimated at 700 to 800.** Magnesium is an essential nutrient for all living things. • In plants it holds the central position in the all-important chlorophyll molecule which transforms sunlight’s energy into life’s form of chemical-energy, ATP (adenosine triphosphate). • Along with calcium and phosphorus, magnesium (Mg) is considered a major element in human nutrition, as opposed to the trace elements such as iron (Fe), zinc (Zn), chromium (Cr), selenium (Se), etc., and is one of the four electrolytes along with calcium (Ca), sodium (Na), and potassium (K). [Electrolytes are minerals in body fluids that carry an electrical charge and conduct electrical impulses in the body. A balance is essential to control the amount of water in the body, blood acidity, muscle action, and more.] Biochemically, a large part of magnesium’s essentiality comes from its combination with ATP - life’s high energy chemical battery. This Mg-ATP complex is required for the cells’ energy-producing structures (mitochondria) to produce ATP; the breakdown of food energy (glucose and fat) into water, carbon dioxide and energy as ATP. When glucose and/or fatty acids are metabolized, the end products are ATP, water, and carbon dioxide. We breathe out the carbon dioxide. The water goes into our system, as we are 90+% water. The metabolism requires oxygen, which we breathe in; protein synthesis for growth and enzyme production; DNA replication, and RNA synthesis. While it was estimated in 1968 that magnesium was a required cofactor for over 300 enzyme systems, that number is now more reliably estimated at 700 to 800. At the cellular level, magnesium joins with the other electrolyte ions in a cell-controlling dance. These ions are carefully and meticulously separated in living cells: • Calcium and sodium ions, for the most part, are kept outside cells, • While magnesium and potassium ions are kept mainly inside cells. Energy in the form of the Mg-ATP complex is necessary to maintain this ionic “packaging†as well as to alter it in a regulated way when warranted. Magnesium has been called “nature’s physiological calcium channel blocker.†[blocking calcium from getting inside cells.] When this “blocker†function is breached or when magnesium becomes depleted within the cell from its normal level, calcium rises inside the cell. This altered state results in a change in the intracellular Mg:Ca ratio, which appears to have an impact on cell function. For example, a lower-than-normal Mg:Ca ratio: • In blood vessel smooth muscle cells - causes vasoconstriction, arterial stiffness, and/or hypertension; • In heart cells - causes enlargement (hypertrophy); • In blood platelet cells - causes increased aggregation, stickiness and clotting; • Makes fat and skeletal muscle cells less able to respond to insulin (insulin resistance); • Causes pancreatic beta cells to produce more insulin, causing hyperinsulinemia [which may lead to hypoglycemia and sodium retention/hypertension]; • Increases nerve cell activity as well as the response of endocrine tissues. In a life-threatening crisis, such reactions are warranted, necessary, and can be life-saving as they allow an animal to perform with unusual strength and speed. Indeed, all these cellular responses to a low Mg:Ca cellular ratio can be aspects of the stress response or “fight-or-flight†reaction. In healthy individuals, when the stress or crisis is over, magnesium increases inside cells to its normal level, its calcium blocker function is restored, calcium moves back outside cells, reestablishing normal electrolyte “ packaging,†and the stress response subsides. However, when these responses to a lower-than-normal Mg:Ca ratio are a result of a magnesium nutritional deficiency state, some predictable disease states can occur. These include: 1. Cardiovascular Diseases. All the usual markers (or risk factors) for heart disease such as hypertension (high blood pressure), high total cholesterol, low HDL (‘good’) cholesterol, high LDL (‘bad’) cholesterol, high homocysteine, and high C-reactive protein, can be the result of low magnesium status. Recent studies show that high anxiety and depression (symptoms of human magnesium deficiency) can predict heart disease even more than the traditional risk factors. 2. Hypertension. Chronic high blood pressure (essential hypertension) can be caused both directly and indirectly by a magnesium deficiency. • Low magnesium:high calcium in blood vessel muscle cells cause them to contract, which results in a hypertensive state. • In addition, a low cellular magnesium impedes a healthy sodium to potassium ratio, which is necessary for normal blood pressure. 3. Type 2 Diabetes. Type 2 diabetes is seen as part of a syndrome, Syndrome X or metabolic syndrome, which includes hypertension, obesity, unhealthy blood cholesterol levels, and high blood sugar coupled with cells’ inability to properly respond to insulin (insulin resistance). These, with the exception of obesity, have been linked to low Mg:Ca cellular ratio, and the type of obesity most predictive of this syndrome, abdominal obesity, has been shown to be assuaged with a long term diet containing high magnesium foods and a regime of regular exercise. 4. Osteoporosis. Many people take calcium supplements to prevent depletion of minerals from bone that can lead to osteoporosis. To properly use this extra calcium, a body needs to have a healthy magnesium status. If magnesium is low, extra calcium can increase the severity of the magnesium deficiency, which causes improper calcium metabolism as one of its symptoms. One of the first signs of a magnesium deficit can be low blood calcium. Other disease states that may be associated with a magnesium deficiency include: • Asthma, • PMS, • Pregnancy induced hypertension, • Migraine headache due to constriction of blood vessels in the head, • Depression, • High anxiety. Some of the initial problems seen in people who have or are developing magnesium deficiency are neuromuscular. These are presumably due to the abnormal muscular contraction-nerve firing states brought on by a low Mg:Ca cellular ratio, which can be a result of: • Chronic low magnesium intake, • Very high calcium intake, • Or a combination of the two. Quantifying human magnesium status and the degree of magnesium deficiency in populations of the industrialized world is difficult given the current lack of a widespread biomarker. Commonly available tests of serum and red blood cell magnesium have not reliably been associated with overall nutritional magnesium status. [As Dr. Paul Cheney has suggested, _blood tests don't tell the whole Mg story, because they are not sensitive to intra-cellular magnesium_ (http://www.prohealth.com/library/showArticle.cfm?libid=12084) .] Most health professionals are taught and many believe that magnesium deficiency is rare, occurring mainly in alcoholism or with general malnutrition, and that most diets give a person enough magnesium given that magnesium is widespread in foods. The research does not support this widespread view. Diets of the industrialized world can be quite low in magnesium. [The large majority of Americans (65%) get much less magnesium than is required for health, according to _a national USDA survey_ (http://www.centerformaged.org/index.php?page=Balancing+Supplements) .] Refined grains and refined sugar are among the lowest foods in Mg content, so when these are high in the diet, Mg intake can be quite low. (See _chart indicating the magnesium content of common foods_ (http://www.centerformaged.org/index.php?page=Magnesium+Density+in+Foods) – from cocoa, highest, to white flour products & sugar, lowest.) Given the wide use of refined sugar and flour in processed foods, the widespread use of calcium supplements, and the increased practice of fortifying foods with calcium, daily magnesium supplements can be protective. Magnesium supplements can be found in various forms such as inorganic MgO and MgCl2, in tablets and capsules and in a better-absorbed organic form such as water soluble Magnesium Citrate. Note: Individuals with kidney disease (renal failure) must not take any magnesium supplements. ____ * This article is reproduced with kind permission from _Peter Gillham’s Natural Vitality website_ (http://www.petergillham.com/news_index.php) . Peter Gillham is a clinical nutritionist, chemist, and pioneer in magnesium research. Dr. Andrea Rosanoff is directing scholar for the Hawaii-based _Center for Magnesium Education & Research_ (http://www.centerformaged.org/index.php?page=About) , and coauthor of the book titled _The Magnesium Factor_ (http://www.amazon.com/Magnesium-Factor-Mildred-Seelig/dp/1583331565) . --------------- The Magnesium Miracle _http://www.jigsawhealth.com/products/magnesium-miracle.html?utm_source=jh-j unnews08 & utm_medium=email_ (http://www.jigsawhealth.com/products/magnesium-miracle.html?utm_source=jh-junnews08 & utm_medium=email) More than seventy-five years ago, medical scientists declared magnesium to be an essential nutrient, indispensable to life. When this mineral is part of your diet, you are guarding against and helping to alleviate health threats such as heart disease, stroke, osteoporosis, diabetes, depression, arthritis, and asthma. But while research continues to reaffirm magnesium's irreplaceable contribution to good health, many Americans remain dangerously deficient. In The Magnesium Miracle, _Dr. Carolyn Dean_ (http://www.jigsawhealth.com/carolyn-dean.aspx) , an authority on this mineral who has used it with dramatic success in her own practice, explains the vital role that magnesium plays in the control of many serious ailments from painful muscle spasms and bladder problems to traumatic brain injury and complications of pregnancy and childbirth. Whether you need help with a serious health problem or merely want to protect the good health you already enjoy, The Miracle of Magnesium will answer all your questions. It may even save your life. Magnesium (Mg) deficiency triggers or causes the following conditions and taking magnesium can either eliminate or help eliminate these conditions: 1. Anxiety and Panic attacks - Mg normally keeps adrenal stress hormones under control. 2. Asthma - Both histamine production and bronchial spasms increase with Mg deficiency. 3. Blood clots - Mg has an important role to play in preventing blood clots and keeping the blood thin - much like aspirin but without the side effects. 4. Bowel Disease - Mg deficiency slows down the bowel causing constipation, which could lead to toxicity and malabsorption of nutrients, as well as colitis. 5. Cystitis - Bladder spasms are worsened by Mg deficiency. 6. Depression - Serotonin, which elevates moods, is dependent on Mg. A Mg-deficient brain is also more susceptible to allergens, foreign substances that can cause symptoms similar to mental illness. 7. Detoxification - Mg is crucial for the removal of toxic substances and heavy metals such as aluminum and lead. 8. Diabetes - Mg enhances insulin secretion, facilitating sugar metabolism. Without Mg insulin is not able to transfer glucose into cells. Glucose and insulin build up in the blood causing various types of tissue damage. 9. Fatigue - Mg-deficient patients commonly experience fatigue because dozens of enzyme systems are under-functioning. An early symptom of Mg deficiency is frequently fatigue. 10. Heart disease - Mg deficiency is common in people with heart disease. Mg is administered in hospitals for acute myocardial infarction and cardiac arrhythmia. Like any other muscle, the heart muscle requires Mg. Mg is also used to treat angina, or chest pain. 11. Hypertension - With insufficient Mg, spasm of blood vessels and high cholesterol occur, both of which lead to blood pressure problems. 12. Hypoglycemia - Mg keeps insulin under control; without Mg episodes of low blood sugar can result. 13. Insomnia - Sleep-regulating melatonin production is disturbed without sufficient Mg. 14. Kidney Disease - Mg deficiency contributes to atherosclerotic kidney failure. Mg deficiency creates abnormal lipid levels and worsening blood sugar control in kidney transplant patients. 15. Liver Disease leading to liver failure - Mg deficiency commonly occurs during liver transplantation. 16. Migraine - Serotonin balance is Mg-dependent. Deficiency of serotonin can result in migraine headaches and depression. 17. Musculoskeletal conditions- Fibrositis, fibromyalgia, muscle spasms, eye twitches, cramps and chronic neck and back pain may be caused by Mg deficiency and can be relieved with Mg supplements. 18. Nerve problems - Mg alleviates peripheral nerve disturbances throughout the whole body, such as migraines, muscle contractions, gastrointestinal spasms, and calf, foot and toe cramps. It is also used in treating central nervous symptoms of vertigo and confusion. 19. Obstetrics and Gynecology - Mg prevents Premenstrual Syndrome; prevents dysmenorrhea (cramping pain during menses); is important in the treatment of infertility; and alleviates premature contractions, preeclampsia, and eclampsia in pregnancy. Intravenous Mg is given in obstetrical wards for pregnancy-induced hypertension and to lessen the risk of cerebral palsy and Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS). Mg should be a required supplement for pregnant mothers. 20. Osteoporosis - Use of calcium with Vitamin D to enhance calcium absorption without a balancing amount of Mg causes further Mg deficiency, which triggers a cascade of events leading to bone loss. 21. Raynaud’s Syndrome - Mg helps relax the spastic blood vessels that cause pain and numbness of the fingers. 22. Tooth decay - Mg deficiency causes an unhealthy balance of phosphorus and calcium in saliva, which damages teeth. The Magnesium Miracle Reviews “Every doctor and patient should read this comprehensive book on the many roles of magnesium. . . . I loved this book. Clearly written and packed with information, it offers a compendium on natural medicine and is an invaluable resource for both practitioner and public alike. It is the most comprehensive and well referenced guide to the myriad benefits of magnesium published to date.†–Dr. Carolyn DeMarco Author of Take Charge of Your Body: Women’s Health Advisor “Throughout this volume and with utmost clarity, Carolyn Dean presents invaluable recommendations–based on the latest magnesium research. Virtually every American can benefit.†–Paul Pitchford Author of _Healing With Whole Foods: Asian Traditions and Modern Nutrition (3rd Edition)_ (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1556434308?ie=UTF8 & tag=jigsawhealth-20 & linkCode=as2 & camp=1789 & creative=9325 & creativeASIN=1556434308) “Physicians and therapists have paid scant attention to this very important element, which is also involved in maintaining our good health. The massive evidence is here in this important book on magnesium. I am pleased to have been taking magnesium for so many years.†–Abram Hoffer, M.D. Author of _Putting It All Together: The New Orthomolecular Nutrition_ (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0879836334?ie=UTF8 & tag=jigsawhealth-20 & linkCode =as2 & camp=1789 & creative=9325 & creativeASIN=0879836334) Material excerpted from Dean, Carolyn. The Magnesium Miracle (Ballantine Books: NY, NY. 2007.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 16, 2009 Have you tried transdermal magnesium? Put it on about 20 minutes before your nighttime shower.Janet2009/12/16 judithmarg <judithmarg You wrote--I have been reading a book about Magnesium, The Magnesius Miracle I think is the name of it. I have never taken Magnesium, although I know now that my body needs it. Probably the reason I have insominia every night. I understand and could be wrong, but can't one get magnesium form brazil nuts, and if one orders and gets organic ones would that not suffice or does one stilll need to take the supplements? While they may contain some Magnesium, the thing Brazil nuts are usually known for is selenium. Concerning magnesium, supplementation seems to be helpful for a lot of people, but the concensus seems to be to avoid the oxide (cheapest, usually) form, as it is not very well used and most apt to cause bowel grief. Blessings as you enjoy time with your family. Judy -- Live on earth as if you want to stay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 17, 2009 so is magnesium good for sleep, if taken as an over the counter vitamin or what, 'cause I have a problem with sleeping that I have to use a sleep aid.Marklostrin <lostrinoleander soup Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 3:51:12 PMRe: magnesium Have you tried transdermal magnesium? Put it on about 20 minutes before your nighttime shower.Janet2009/12/16 judithmarg <judithmarg > You wrote--I have been reading a book about Magnesium, The Magnesius Miracle I think is the name of it. I have never taken Magnesium, although I know now that my body needs it. Probably the reason I have insominia every night. I understand and could be wrong, but can't one get magnesium form brazil nuts, and if one orders and gets organic ones would that not suffice or does one stilll need to take the supplements? While they may contain some Magnesium, the thing Brazil nuts are usually known for is selenium. Concerning magnesium, supplementation seems to be helpful for a lot of people, but the concensus seems to be to avoid the oxide (cheapest, usually) form, as it is not very well used and most apt to cause bowel grief. Blessings as you enjoy time with your family. Judy -- Live on earth as if you want to stay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 17, 2009 Janet and Judy,thanks for the info.Where does one get transderman magnesium?Yep! i mixed them up: selenium is from Brazil nuts. Thanks,Barbara N Germany--- On Wed, 12/16/09, lostrin <lostrin wrote:lostrin <lostrinRe: magnesiumoleander soup Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 4:51 PM Have you tried transdermal magnesium? Put it on about 20 minutes before your nighttime shower.Janet2009/12/16 judithmarg <judithmarg You wrote--I have been reading a book about Magnesium, The Magnesius Miracle I think is the name of it. I have never taken Magnesium, although I know now that my body needs it. Probably the reason I have insominia every night. I understand and could be wrong, but can't one get magnesium form brazil nuts, and if one orders and gets organic ones would that not suffice or does one stilll need to take the supplements? While they may contain some Magnesium, the thing Brazil nuts are usually known for is selenium. Concerning magnesium, supplementation seems to be helpful for a lot of people, but the concensus seems to be to avoid the oxide (cheapest, usually) form, as it is not very well used and most apt to cause bowel grief. Blessings as you enjoy time with your family. Judy -- Live on earth as if you want to stay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 17, 2009 I bought Essence of Life magnesium gel and magnesium oil at the health food store. I'm in English Canada - I was unable to find it in Quebec in the summer - you would have laughed at me trying to explain in French that I wanted magnesium that you rub on your skin! I went to 3 or 4 different places - no one had heard of it. It's a bit hard to find but you can google that brand. Doesn't Dr Lanphier sell it on her site? Janet2009/12/17 barbara elenniss <bntelenniss Janet and Judy,thanks for the info.Where does one get transderman magnesium?Yep! i mixed them up: selenium is from Brazil nuts. Thanks,Barbara N Germany--- On Wed, 12/16/09, lostrin <lostrin wrote: lostrin <lostrinRe: magnesium oleander soup Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 4:51 PM Have you tried transdermal magnesium? Put it on about 20 minutes before your nighttime shower.Janet2009/12/16 judithmarg <judithmarg You wrote--I have been reading a book about Magnesium, The Magnesius Miracle I think is the name of it. I have never taken Magnesium, although I know now that my body needs it. Probably the reason I have insominia every night. I understand and could be wrong, but can't one get magnesium form brazil nuts, and if one orders and gets organic ones would that not suffice or does one stilll need to take the supplements? While they may contain some Magnesium, the thing Brazil nuts are usually known for is selenium. Concerning magnesium, supplementation seems to be helpful for a lot of people, but the concensus seems to be to avoid the oxide (cheapest, usually) form, as it is not very well used and most apt to cause bowel grief. Blessings as you enjoy time with your family. Judy -- Live on earth as if you want to stay. -- Live on earth as if you want to stay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 17, 2009 I am in Germany, but I can purchase easily from the states or germany,I do not know Dr. Lanphier's site.That is funny, sorta like me trying to communicate with Germans when I don't speak the language. LOLBarbara N Germany--- On Thu, 12/17/09, lostrin <lostrin wrote:lostrin <lostrinRe: magnesiumoleander soup Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 11:50 AM I bought Essence of Life magnesium gel and magnesium oil at the health food store. I'm in English Canada - I was unable to find it in Quebec in the summer - you would have laughed at me trying to explain in French that I wanted magnesium that you rub on your skin! I went to 3 or 4 different places - no one had heard of it. It's a bit hard to find but you can google that brand. Doesn't Dr Lanphier sell it on her site? Janet2009/12/17 barbara elenniss <bntelenniss Janet and Judy,thanks for the info.Where does one get transderman magnesium?Yep! i mixed them up: selenium is from Brazil nuts. Thanks,Barbara N Germany--- On Wed, 12/16/09, lostrin <lostrin wrote: lostrin <lostrinRe: magnesium oleander soup Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 4:51 PM Have you tried transdermal magnesium? Put it on about 20 minutes before your nighttime shower.Janet2009/12/16 judithmarg <judithmarg You wrote--I have been reading a book about Magnesium, The Magnesius Miracle I think is the name of it. I have never taken Magnesium, although I know now that my body needs it. Probably the reason I have insominia every night. I understand and could be wrong, but can't one get magnesium form brazil nuts, and if one orders and gets organic ones would that not suffice or does one stilll need to take the supplements? While they may contain some Magnesium, the thing Brazil nuts are usually known for is selenium. Concerning magnesium, supplementation seems to be helpful for a lot of people, but the concensus seems to be to avoid the oxide (cheapest, usually) form, as it is not very well used and most apt to cause bowel grief. Blessings as you enjoy time with your family. Judy -- Live on earth as if you want to stay. -- Live on earth as if you want to stay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 17, 2009 Thanks, I'll look for it.Marcus De Vasier <marcusdevasieroleander soup Sent: Thu, December 17, 2009 8:36:09 AMRe: magnesium so is magnesium good for sleep, if taken as an over the counter vitamin or what, 'cause I have a problem with sleeping that I have to use a sleep aid.Marklostrin <lostrin (AT) gmail (DOT) com>oleander soupWed, December 16, 2009 3:51:12 PMRe: magnesium Have you tried transdermal magnesium? Put it on about 20 minutes before your nighttime shower.Janet2009/12/16 judithmarg <judithmarg > You wrote--I have been reading a book about Magnesium, The Magnesius Miracle I think is the name of it. I have never taken Magnesium, although I know now that my body needs it. Probably the reason I have insominia every night. I understand and could be wrong, but can't one get magnesium form brazil nuts, and if one orders and gets organic ones would that not suffice or does one stilll need to take the supplements? While they may contain some Magnesium, the thing Brazil nuts are usually known for is selenium. Concerning magnesium, supplementation seems to be helpful for a lot of people, but the concensus seems to be to avoid the oxide (cheapest, usually) form, as it is not very well used and most apt to cause bowel grief. Blessings as you enjoy time with your family. Judy -- Live on earth as if you want to stay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 17, 2009 try oasisadvancedwellness.comor google essence of life magnesium2009/12/17 barbara elenniss <bntelenniss I am in Germany, but I can purchase easily from the states or germany,I do not know Dr. Lanphier's site.That is funny, sorta like me trying to communicate with Germans when I don't speak the language. LOL Barbara N Germany--- On Thu, 12/17/09, lostrin <lostrin wrote: lostrin <lostrinRe: magnesiumoleander soup Thursday, December 17, 2009, 11:50 AM I bought Essence of Life magnesium gel and magnesium oil at the health food store. I'm in English Canada - I was unable to find it in Quebec in the summer - you would have laughed at me trying to explain in French that I wanted magnesium that you rub on your skin! I went to 3 or 4 different places - no one had heard of it. It's a bit hard to find but you can google that brand. Doesn't Dr Lanphier sell it on her site? Janet2009/12/17 barbara elenniss <bntelenniss Janet and Judy,thanks for the info.Where does one get transderman magnesium?Yep! i mixed them up: selenium is from Brazil nuts. Thanks,Barbara N Germany--- On Wed, 12/16/09, lostrin <lostrin wrote: lostrin <lostrinRe: magnesium oleander soup Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 4:51 PM Have you tried transdermal magnesium? Put it on about 20 minutes before your nighttime shower.Janet2009/12/16 judithmarg <judithmarg You wrote--I have been reading a book about Magnesium, The Magnesius Miracle I think is the name of it. I have never taken Magnesium, although I know now that my body needs it. Probably the reason I have insominia every night. I understand and could be wrong, but can't one get magnesium form brazil nuts, and if one orders and gets organic ones would that not suffice or does one stilll need to take the supplements? While they may contain some Magnesium, the thing Brazil nuts are usually known for is selenium. Concerning magnesium, supplementation seems to be helpful for a lot of people, but the concensus seems to be to avoid the oxide (cheapest, usually) form, as it is not very well used and most apt to cause bowel grief. Blessings as you enjoy time with your family. Judy -- Live on earth as if you want to stay. -- Live on earth as if you want to stay. -- Live on earth as if you want to stay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 17, 2009 Hi Barbara. Here is an article by Walter last about Madnesium and how to make your own, trandermal oil sort of speak because is not an oil, it's called oil because itT slippery on the skin. Hope this help you. Hugs Mary http://www.health-science-spirit.com/magnesiumchloride.html - barbara elenniss oleander soup Friday, December 18, 2009 2:59 AM Re: magnesium Janet and Judy,thanks for the info.Where does one get transderman magnesium?Yep! i mixed them up: selenium is from Brazil nuts. Thanks,Barbara N Germany--- On Wed, 12/16/09, lostrin <lostrin > wrote: lostrin <lostrin >Re: magnesiumoleander soup Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 4:51 PM Have you tried transdermal magnesium? Put it on about 20 minutes before your nighttime shower.Janet 2009/12/16 judithmarg <judithmarg > You wrote--I have been reading a book about Magnesium, The Magnesius Miracle I think is the name of it. I have never taken Magnesium, although I know now that my body needs it. Probably the reason I have insominia every night. I understand and could be wrong, but can't one get magnesium form brazil nuts, and if one orders and gets organic ones would that not suffice or does one stilll need to take the supplements?While they may contain some Magnesium, the thing Brazil nuts are usually known for is selenium. Concerning magnesium, supplementation seems to be helpful for a lot of people, but the concensus seems to be to avoid the oxide (cheapest, usually) form, as it is not very well used and most apt to cause bowel grief.Blessings as you enjoy time with your family.Judy -- Live on earth as if you want to stay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 17, 2009 Magnesium Mary, it's called Magnesium girl , you see i cant spell, oh boy !!!! Lol - Maria oleander soup Friday, December 18, 2009 8:01 AM Re: magnesium Hi Barbara. Here is an article by Walter last about Madnesium and how to make your own, trandermal oil sort of speak because is not an oil, it's called oil because itT slippery on the skin. Hope this help you. Hugs Mary http://www.health-science-spirit.com/magnesiumchloride.html - barbara elenniss oleander soup Friday, December 18, 2009 2:59 AM Re: magnesium Janet and Judy,thanks for the info.Where does one get transderman magnesium?Yep! i mixed them up: selenium is from Brazil nuts. Thanks,Barbara N Germany--- On Wed, 12/16/09, lostrin <lostrin > wrote: lostrin <lostrin >Re: magnesiumoleander soup Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 4:51 PM Have you tried transdermal magnesium? Put it on about 20 minutes before your nighttime shower.Janet 2009/12/16 judithmarg <judithmarg > You wrote--I have been reading a book about Magnesium, The Magnesius Miracle I think is the name of it. I have never taken Magnesium, although I know now that my body needs it. Probably the reason I have insominia every night. I understand and could be wrong, but can't one get magnesium form brazil nuts, and if one orders and gets organic ones would that not suffice or does one stilll need to take the supplements?While they may contain some Magnesium, the thing Brazil nuts are usually known for is selenium. Concerning magnesium, supplementation seems to be helpful for a lot of people, but the concensus seems to be to avoid the oxide (cheapest, usually) form, as it is not very well used and most apt to cause bowel grief.Blessings as you enjoy time with your family.Judy -- Live on earth as if you want to stay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 17, 2009 Magnesium is good stuff. It is in the center of the chlorophyll molecule which makes plants green, so eating green vegetables will supply a lot of Mg. if you want to supplement then use magnesium citrate or other organically complexed Mg in order to slow absorption and reduce intestinal problems. It makes no sense to rub a divalent cation on one’s skin and expect a lot of absorption, it is much better to take internally. Bob R oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of Maria Thursday, December 17, 2009 5:36 PM oleander soup Re: magnesium Magnesium Mary, it's called Magnesium girl , you see i cant spell, oh boy !!!! Lol ----- Original Message ----- Maria oleander soup Friday, December 18, 2009 8:01 AM Re: magnesium Hi Barbara. Here is an article by Walter last about Madnesium and how to make your own, trandermal oil sort of speak because is not an oil, it's called oil because itT slippery on the skin. Hope this help you. Hugs Mary http://www.health-science-spirit.com/magnesiumchloride.html ----- Original Message ----- barbara elenniss oleander soup Friday, December 18, 2009 2:59 AM Re: magnesium Janet and Judy, thanks for the info. Where does one get transderman magnesium? Yep! i mixed them up: selenium is from Brazil nuts. Thanks, Barbara N Germany --- On Wed, 12/16/09, lostrin <lostrin wrote: lostrin <lostrin Re: magnesium oleander soup Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 4:51 PM Have you tried transdermal magnesium? Put it on about 20 minutes before your nighttime shower. Janet 2009/12/16 judithmarg <judithmarg You wrote--I have been reading a book about Magnesium, The Magnesius Miracle I think is the name of it. I have never taken Magnesium, although I know now that my body needs it. Probably the reason I have insominia every night. I understand and could be wrong, but can't one get magnesium form brazil nuts, and if one orders and gets organic ones would that not suffice or does one stilll need to take the supplements? While they may contain some Magnesium, the thing Brazil nuts are usually known for is selenium. Concerning magnesium, supplementation seems to be helpful for a lot of people, but the concensus seems to be to avoid the oxide (cheapest, usually) form, as it is not very well used and most apt to cause bowel grief. Blessings as you enjoy time with your family. Judy -- Live on earth as if you want to stay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 17, 2009 Well Bob. We will never get it right, because one source says take it internally and other sources say aplly trandermally. Who knows who's right and who's wrong ? so we do what ever we think is right, and the problem is solved, rather then go crazy wondering. Thanks for the info though. Hugs Mary - Bobby E Rehberg oleander soup Friday, December 18, 2009 10:44 AM RE: magnesium Magnesium is good stuff. It is in the center of the chlorophyll molecule which makes plants green, so eating green vegetables will supply a lot of Mg. if you want to supplement then use magnesium citrate or other organically complexed Mg in order to slow absorption and reduce intestinal problems. It makes no sense to rub a divalent cation on one’s skin and expect a lot of absorption, it is much better to take internally. Bob R oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of MariaThursday, December 17, 2009 5:36 PMoleander soup Subject: Re: magnesium Magnesium Mary, it's called Magnesium girl , you see i cant spell, oh boy !!!! Lol - Maria oleander soup Friday, December 18, 2009 8:01 AM Re: magnesium Hi Barbara. Here is an article by Walter last about Madnesium and how to make your own, trandermal oil sort of speak because is not an oil, it's called oil because itT slippery on the skin. Hope this help you. Hugs Mary http://www.health-science-spirit.com/magnesiumchloride.html - barbara elenniss oleander soup Friday, December 18, 2009 2:59 AM Re: magnesium Janet and Judy,thanks for the info.Where does one get transderman magnesium?Yep! i mixed them up: selenium is from Brazil nuts. Thanks,Barbara N Germany--- On Wed, 12/16/09, lostrin <lostrin > wrote: lostrin <lostrin >Re: magnesiumoleander soup Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 4:51 PM Have you tried transdermal magnesium? Put it on about 20 minutes before your nighttime shower.Janet 2009/12/16 judithmarg <judithmarg > You wrote--I have been reading a book about Magnesium, The Magnesius Miracle I think is the name of it. I have never taken Magnesium, although I know now that my body needs it. Probably the reason I have insominia every night. I understand and could be wrong, but can't one get magnesium form brazil nuts, and if one orders and gets organic ones would that not suffice or does one stilll need to take the supplements?While they may contain some Magnesium, the thing Brazil nuts are usually known for is selenium. Concerning magnesium, supplementation seems to be helpful for a lot of people, but the concensus seems to be to avoid the oxide (cheapest, usually) form, as it is not very well used and most apt to cause bowel grief.Blessings as you enjoy time with your family.Judy -- Live on earth as if you want to stay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 18, 2009 Thank you Mary and to everyone else who contributed info on Magnesium.Barbara N Germany--- On Thu, 12/17/09, Maria <mary1kon wrote:Maria <mary1konRe: magnesiumoleander soup Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 4:01 PM Hi Barbara. Here is an article by Walter last about Madnesium and how to make your own, trandermal oil sort of speak because is not an oil, it's called oil because itT slippery on the skin. Hope this help you. Hugs Mary http://www.health-science-spirit.com/magnesiumchloride.html - barbara elenniss oleander soup Friday, December 18, 2009 2:59 AM Re: magnesium Janet and Judy,thanks for the info.Where does one get transderman magnesium?Yep! i mixed them up: selenium is from Brazil nuts. Thanks,Barbara N Germany--- On Wed, 12/16/09, lostrin <lostrin (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: lostrin <lostrin (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: magnesiumoleander soupWednesday, December 16, 2009, 4:51 PM Have you tried transdermal magnesium? Put it on about 20 minutes before your nighttime shower.Janet 2009/12/16 judithmarg <judithmarg > You wrote--I have been reading a book about Magnesium, The Magnesius Miracle I think is the name of it. I have never taken Magnesium, although I know now that my body needs it. Probably the reason I have insominia every night. I understand and could be wrong, but can't one get magnesium form brazil nuts, and if one orders and gets organic ones would that not suffice or does one stilll need to take the supplements?While they may contain some Magnesium, the thing Brazil nuts are usually known for is selenium. Concerning magnesium, supplementation seems to be helpful for a lot of people, but the concensus seems to be to avoid the oxide (cheapest, usually) form, as it is not very well used and most apt to cause bowel grief.Blessings as you enjoy time with your family.Judy -- Live on earth as if you want to stay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 18, 2009 Nothing to wonder about in this case. The laws of chemistry are not subject to change. Somebody is trying to sell something---P. T. Barnum was right. Bob R oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of Maria Thursday, December 17, 2009 7:00 PM oleander soup Re: magnesium Well Bob. We will never get it right, because one source says take it internally and other sources say aplly trandermally. Who knows who's right and who's wrong ? so we do what ever we think is right, and the problem is solved, rather then go crazy wondering. Thanks for the info though. Hugs Mary ----- Original Message ----- Bobby E Rehberg oleander soup Friday, December 18, 2009 10:44 AM RE: magnesium Magnesium is good stuff. It is in the center of the chlorophyll molecule which makes plants green, so eating green vegetables will supply a lot of Mg. if you want to supplement then use magnesium citrate or other organically complexed Mg in order to slow absorption and reduce intestinal problems. It makes no sense to rub a divalent cation on one’s skin and expect a lot of absorption, it is much better to take internally. Bob R oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of Maria Thursday, December 17, 2009 5:36 PM oleander soup Re: magnesium Magnesium Mary, it's called Magnesium girl , you see i cant spell, oh boy !!!! Lol - Maria oleander soup Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 8:01 AM Re: magnesium Hi Barbara. Here is an article by Walter last about Madnesium and how to make your own, trandermal oil sort of speak because is not an oil, it's called oil because itT slippery on the skin. Hope this help you. Hugs Mary http://www.health-science-spirit.com/magnesiumchloride.html - barbara elenniss oleander soup Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 2:59 AM Re: magnesium Janet and Judy, thanks for the info. Where does one get transderman magnesium? Yep! i mixed them up: selenium is from Brazil nuts. Thanks, Barbara N Germany --- On Wed, 12/16/09, lostrin <lostrin wrote: lostrin <lostrin Re: magnesium oleander soup Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 4:51 PM Have you tried transdermal magnesium? Put it on about 20 minutes before your nighttime shower. Janet 2009/12/16 judithmarg <judithmarg You wrote--I have been reading a book about Magnesium, The Magnesius Miracle I think is the name of it. I have never taken Magnesium, although I know now that my body needs it. Probably the reason I have insominia every night. I understand and could be wrong, but can't one get magnesium form brazil nuts, and if one orders and gets organic ones would that not suffice or does one stilll need to take the supplements? While they may contain some Magnesium, the thing Brazil nuts are usually known for is selenium. Concerning magnesium, supplementation seems to be helpful for a lot of people, but the concensus seems to be to avoid the oxide (cheapest, usually) form, as it is not very well used and most apt to cause bowel grief. Blessings as you enjoy time with your family. Judy -- Live on earth as if you want to stay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 18, 2009 Another excellent way of getting Magnesium is a session in a float tank. It is first of all an amazingly efficient way of accessing very deep states of relaxation and the secondary benefits are the absorbtion of MAGNESIUM sulphate heap-hydrate. Jeremy oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of Bobby E Rehberg Friday, December 18, 2009 2:21 PM oleander soup RE: magnesium Nothing to wonder about in this case. The laws of chemistry are not subject to change. Somebody is trying to sell something---P. T. Barnum was right. Bob R oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of Maria Thursday, December 17, 2009 7:00 PM oleander soup Re: magnesium Well Bob. We will never get it right, because one source says take it internally and other sources say aplly trandermally. Who knows who's right and who's wrong ? so we do what ever we think is right, and the problem is solved, rather then go crazy wondering. Thanks for the info though. Hugs Mary - Bobby E Rehberg oleander soup Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:44 AM RE: magnesium Magnesium is good stuff. It is in the center of the chlorophyll molecule which makes plants green, so eating green vegetables will supply a lot of Mg. if you want to supplement then use magnesium citrate or other organically complexed Mg in order to slow absorption and reduce intestinal problems. It makes no sense to rub a divalent cation on one’s skin and expect a lot of absorption, it is much better to take internally. Bob R oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of Maria Thursday, December 17, 2009 5:36 PM oleander soup Re: magnesium Magnesium Mary, it's called Magnesium girl , you see i cant spell, oh boy !!!! Lol - Maria oleander soup Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 8:01 AM Re: magnesium Hi Barbara. Here is an article by Walter last about Madnesium and how to make your own, trandermal oil sort of speak because is not an oil, it's called oil because itT slippery on the skin. Hope this help you. Hugs Mary http://www.health-science-spirit.com/magnesiumchloride.html - barbara elenniss oleander soup Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 2:59 AM Re: magnesium Janet and Judy, thanks for the info. Where does one get transderman magnesium? Yep! i mixed them up: selenium is from Brazil nuts. Thanks, Barbara N Germany --- On Wed, 12/16/09, lostrin <lostrin wrote: lostrin <lostrin Re: magnesium oleander soup Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 4:51 PM Have you tried transdermal magnesium? Put it on about 20 minutes before your nighttime shower. Janet 2009/12/16 judithmarg <judithmarg You wrote--I have been reading a book about Magnesium, The Magnesius Miracle I think is the name of it. I have never taken Magnesium, although I know now that my body needs it. Probably the reason I have insominia every night. I understand and could be wrong, but can't one get magnesium form brazil nuts, and if one orders and gets organic ones would that not suffice or does one stilll need to take the supplements? While they may contain some Magnesium, the thing Brazil nuts are usually known for is selenium. Concerning magnesium, supplementation seems to be helpful for a lot of people, but the concensus seems to be to avoid the oxide (cheapest, usually) form, as it is not very well used and most apt to cause bowel grief. Blessings as you enjoy time with your family. Judy -- Live on earth as if you want to stay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 18, 2009 OOPS! that email got away from me, I was hitting keys and then it was gone...anyway what in the heck is a float tank. Never heard of it. Barbara N. Germany--- On Fri, 12/18/09, Galim <galim wrote: Galim <galimRE: magnesiumoleander soup Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 7:29 AM Another excellent way of getting Magnesium is a session in a float tank. It is first of all an amazingly efficient way of accessing very deep states of relaxation and the secondary benefits are the absorbtion of MAGNESIUM sulphate heap-hydrate. Jeremy oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of Bobby E RehbergFriday, December 18, 2009 2:21 PMoleander soup Subject: RE: magnesium Nothing to wonder about in this case. The laws of chemistry are not subject to change. Somebody is trying to sell something---P. T. Barnum was right. Bob R oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of MariaThursday, December 17, 2009 7:00 PMoleander soup Subject: Re: magnesium Well Bob. We will never get it right, because one source says take it internally and other sources say aplly trandermally. Who knows who's right and who's wrong ? so we do what ever we think is right, and the problem is solved, rather then go crazy wondering. Thanks for the info though. Hugs Mary - Bobby E Rehberg oleander soup Friday, December 18, 2009 10:44 AM RE: magnesium Magnesium is good stuff. It is in the center of the chlorophyll molecule which makes plants green, so eating green vegetables will supply a lot of Mg. if you want to supplement then use magnesium citrate or other organically complexed Mg in order to slow absorption and reduce intestinal problems. It makes no sense to rub a divalent cation on one’s skin and expect a lot of absorption, it is much better to take internally. Bob R oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of MariaThursday, December 17, 2009 5:36 PMoleander soup Subject: Re: magnesium Magnesium Mary, it's called Magnesium girl , you see i cant spell, oh boy !!!! Lol - Maria oleander soup Friday, December 18, 2009 8:01 AM Re: magnesium Hi Barbara. Here is an article by Walter last about Madnesium and how to make your own, trandermal oil sort of speak because is not an oil, it's called oil because itT slippery on the skin. Hope this help you. Hugs Mary http://www.health-science-spirit.com/magnesiumchloride.html - barbara elenniss oleander soup Friday, December 18, 2009 2:59 AM Re: magnesium Janet and Judy,thanks for the info.Where does one get transderman magnesium?Yep! i mixed them up: selenium is from Brazil nuts. Thanks,Barbara N Germany--- On Wed, 12/16/09, lostrin <lostrin wrote: lostrin <lostrinRe: magnesiumoleander soup Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 4:51 PM Have you tried transdermal magnesium? Put it on about 20 minutes before your nighttime shower.Janet 2009/12/16 judithmarg <judithmarg You wrote--I have been reading a book about Magnesium, The Magnesius Miracle I think is the name of it. I have never taken Magnesium, although I know now that my body needs it. Probably the reason I have insominia every night. I understand and could be wrong, but can't one get magnesium form brazil nuts, and if one orders and gets organic ones would that not suffice or does one stilll need to take the supplements?While they may contain some Magnesium, the thing Brazil nuts are usually known for is selenium. Concerning magnesium, supplementation seems to be helpful for a lot of people, but the concensus seems to be to avoid the oxide (cheapest, usually) form, as it is not very well used and most apt to cause bowel grief.Blessings as you enjoy time with your family.Judy -- Live on earth as if you want to stay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 18, 2009 Hi Bob, Magnesium ions may be absorbed through the skin, though it is hard to understand how exactly. In 2006 Rosemary Waring, a British biochemist at the University of Birmingham, did an experiment with Epsom salts. She measured magnesium and sulfate in the blood and urine both before and after people bathed in Epsom salts and found increased blood levels (about 10% on average, though I'm not sure what " ppm/ml " means) and increased urine excretion of both magnesium and sulfate. http://www.epsomsaltcouncil.org/articles/Report_on_Absorption_of_magnesium_sulfa\ te.pdf In vitro studies have conformed this: " In vitro, we found human skin to be permeable to magnesium and calcium ions... " http://www.medscape.com/medline/abstract/15080493 I'm not sure if magnesium chloride is absorbed through the skin in any significant quantities, when you think of bathing in magnesium sulfate as opposed to spraying a little magnesium chloride on the skin. A saturated solution of magnesium chloride contains about 2.7 grams (anhydrous) per teaspoon, which amounts to about 0.7 grams (700 mg) of magnesium, so if it was all absorbed it would be a significant dose (RDA is 300 mg). I have used it as an underarm deodorant, which seems to work, and as a mouthwash which seems to improve dental health. I also take about a teaspoonful of nigari dissolved in water a day, which doesn't cause diarrhea (so some is presumably absorbed) and it definitely makes me feel calmer and sleep better, as compared with when I don't take it. Paul H Bobby E Rehberg wrote: > > > Magnesium is good stuff. It is in the center of the chlorophyll > molecule which makes plants green, so eating green vegetables will > supply a lot of Mg. if you want to supplement then use magnesium > citrate or other organically complexed Mg in order to slow absorption > and reduce intestinal problems. It makes no sense to rub a divalent > cation on one’s skin and expect a lot of absorption, it is much better > to take internally. > > Bob R > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 18, 2009 I have no doubt that if you immerse yourself in a magnesium solution, that some Mg will be absorbed, but if you look at the data, there was a lot of variability; some took in a lot and others not so much. They should have calibrated to total skin surface area, which was not done. If you take Mg by mouth then you understand the dose and can replicate it in the future rather than guessing about the whole thing. Mg citrate is one of the best and not expensive. Magnesium oxide is not very available and magnesium hydroxide is milk of magnesia and you know what that can do! Much of Mg comes from sea water and this is a commercial source. There is a large plant on the Gulf of Mexico at St. Joe, Florida. There are extensive natural deposits in Nevada of brucite as well as in China---these are the remnants of ancient sea deposits. I did not study biochemistry in England, but did at the University of Florida---and yeah we do more than play football!! Bob R oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of Paul Friday, December 18, 2009 11:40 AM oleander soup Re: magnesium Hi Bob, Magnesium ions may be absorbed through the skin, though it is hard to understand how exactly. In 2006 Rosemary Waring, a British biochemist at the University of Birmingham, did an experiment with Epsom salts. She measured magnesium and sulfate in the blood and urine both before and after people bathed in Epsom salts and found increased blood levels (about 10% on average, though I'm not sure what " ppm/ml " means) and increased urine excretion of both magnesium and sulfate. http://www.epsomsaltcouncil.org/articles/Report_on_Absorption_of_magnesium_s ulfate.pdf In vitro studies have conformed this: " In vitro, we found human skin to be permeable to magnesium and calcium ions... " http://www.medscape.com/medline/abstract/15080493 I'm not sure if magnesium chloride is absorbed through the skin in any significant quantities, when you think of bathing in magnesium sulfate as opposed to spraying a little magnesium chloride on the skin. A saturated solution of magnesium chloride contains about 2.7 grams (anhydrous) per teaspoon, which amounts to about 0.7 grams (700 mg) of magnesium, so if it was all absorbed it would be a significant dose (RDA is 300 mg). I have used it as an underarm deodorant, which seems to work, and as a mouthwash which seems to improve dental health. I also take about a teaspoonful of nigari dissolved in water a day, which doesn't cause diarrhea (so some is presumably absorbed) and it definitely makes me feel calmer and sleep better, as compared with when I don't take it. Paul H Bobby E Rehberg wrote: > > > Magnesium is good stuff. It is in the center of the chlorophyll > molecule which makes plants green, so eating green vegetables will > supply a lot of Mg. if you want to supplement then use magnesium > citrate or other organically complexed Mg in order to slow absorption > and reduce intestinal problems. It makes no sense to rub a divalent > cation on one's skin and expect a lot of absorption, it is much better > to take internally. > > Bob R > > --- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 18, 2009 From what I have read the accepted wisdom is that magnesium salts absorb well through the skin. Magnesium chloride is considered most absorbed, but it is expensive. We bought 20 Kg (about 50 lb for the imperialists) of Magnesium Sulphate because it is cheap, and put it in the bath with a tablespoon of apple cider vinegar. Then we wash, or soak or whatever. The vinegar is an acidulant, and also, we find, helps with ‘feminine issues’. If you test it I understand that the chlorine put in water also absorbs well through the skin. Make of that what you will. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 18, 2009 You are welcome Barbara. And now after reading all about Magnesium, you are an export just like us Lol. Hugs Mary - barbara elenniss oleander soup Friday, December 18, 2009 6:03 PM Re: magnesium Thank you Mary and to everyone else who contributed info on Magnesium.Barbara N Germany--- On Thu, 12/17/09, Maria <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) comau> wrote: Maria <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au>Re: magnesiumoleander soup Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 4:01 PM Hi Barbara. Here is an article by Walter last about Madnesium and how to make your own, trandermal oil sort of speak because is not an oil, it's called oil because itT slippery on the skin. Hope this help you. Hugs Mary http://www.health-science-spirit.com/magnesiumchloride.html - barbara elenniss oleander soup Friday, December 18, 2009 2:59 AM Re: magnesium Janet and Judy,thanks for the info.Where does one get transderman magnesium?Yep! i mixed them up: selenium is from Brazil nuts. Thanks,Barbara N Germany--- On Wed, 12/16/09, lostrin <lostrin (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: lostrin <lostrin (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: magnesiumoleander soupWednesday, December 16, 2009, 4:51 PM Have you tried transdermal magnesium? Put it on about 20 minutes before your nighttime shower.Janet 2009/12/16 judithmarg <judithmarg > You wrote--I have been reading a book about Magnesium, The Magnesius Miracle I think is the name of it. I have never taken Magnesium, although I know now that my body needs it. Probably the reason I have insominia every night. I understand and could be wrong, but can't one get magnesium form brazil nuts, and if one orders and gets organic ones would that not suffice or does one stilll need to take the supplements?While they may contain some Magnesium, the thing Brazil nuts are usually known for is selenium. Concerning magnesium, supplementation seems to be helpful for a lot of people, but the concensus seems to be to avoid the oxide (cheapest, usually) form, as it is not very well used and most apt to cause bowel grief.Blessings as you enjoy time with your family.Judy -- Live on earth as if you want to stay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 18, 2009 Now, Now Bob. Come on, we are not all exports in chemistry and science. Take care. Hugs Mary - Bobby E Rehberg oleander soup Friday, December 18, 2009 11:21 PM RE: magnesium Nothing to wonder about in this case. The laws of chemistry are not subject to change. Somebody is trying to sell something---P. T. Barnum was right. Bob R oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of MariaThursday, December 17, 2009 7:00 PMoleander soup Subject: Re: magnesium Well Bob. We will never get it right, because one source says take it internally and other sources say aplly trandermally. Who knows who's right and who's wrong ? so we do what ever we think is right, and the problem is solved, rather then go crazy wondering. Thanks for the info though. Hugs Mary - Bobby E Rehberg oleander soup Friday, December 18, 2009 10:44 AM RE: magnesium Magnesium is good stuff. It is in the center of the chlorophyll molecule which makes plants green, so eating green vegetables will supply a lot of Mg. if you want to supplement then use magnesium citrate or other organically complexed Mg in order to slow absorption and reduce intestinal problems. It makes no sense to rub a divalent cation on one’s skin and expect a lot of absorption, it is much better to take internally. Bob R oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of MariaThursday, December 17, 2009 5:36 PMoleander soup Subject: Re: magnesium Magnesium Mary, it's called Magnesium girl , you see i cant spell, oh boy !!!! Lol - Maria oleander soup Friday, December 18, 2009 8:01 AM Re: magnesium Hi Barbara. Here is an article by Walter last about Madnesium and how to make your own, trandermal oil sort of speak because is not an oil, it's called oil because itT slippery on the skin. Hope this help you. Hugs Mary http://www.health-science-spirit.com/magnesiumchloride.html - barbara elenniss oleander soup Friday, December 18, 2009 2:59 AM Re: magnesium Janet and Judy,thanks for the info.Where does one get transderman magnesium?Yep! i mixed them up: selenium is from Brazil nuts. Thanks,Barbara N Germany--- On Wed, 12/16/09, lostrin <lostrin > wrote: lostrin <lostrin >Re: magnesiumoleander soup Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 4:51 PM Have you tried transdermal magnesium? Put it on about 20 minutes before your nighttime shower.Janet 2009/12/16 judithmarg <judithmarg > You wrote--I have been reading a book about Magnesium, The Magnesius Miracle I think is the name of it. I have never taken Magnesium, although I know now that my body needs it. Probably the reason I have insominia every night. I understand and could be wrong, but can't one get magnesium form brazil nuts, and if one orders and gets organic ones would that not suffice or does one stilll need to take the supplements?While they may contain some Magnesium, the thing Brazil nuts are usually known for is selenium. Concerning magnesium, supplementation seems to be helpful for a lot of people, but the concensus seems to be to avoid the oxide (cheapest, usually) form, as it is not very well used and most apt to cause bowel grief.Blessings as you enjoy time with your family.Judy -- Live on earth as if you want to stay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 18, 2009  Hi Barbara. Go to this side and read all the articles on Magnesium , they are on the right side of the page, and maybe you will find all about floatting in Magnesium. Happy reading . Hugs Mary . http://magnesiumforlife.com/transdermal-magnesium/ - barbara elenniss oleander soup Saturday, December 19, 2009 2:39 AM RE: magnesium OOPS! that email got away from me, I was hitting keys and then it was gone...anyway what in the heck is a float tank. Never heard of it. Barbara N. Germany--- On Fri, 12/18/09, Galim <galim (AT) inter (DOT) net.il> wrote: Galim <galim (AT) inter (DOT) net.il>RE: magnesiumoleander soup Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 7:29 AM Another excellent way of getting Magnesium is a session in a float tank. It is first of all an amazingly efficient way of accessing very deep states of relaxation and the secondary benefits are the absorbtion of MAGNESIUM sulphate heap-hydrate. Jeremy oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of Bobby E RehbergFriday, December 18, 2009 2:21 PMoleander soup Subject: RE: magnesium Nothing to wonder about in this case. The laws of chemistry are not subject to change. Somebody is trying to sell something---P T. Barnum was right. Bob R oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of MariaThursday, December 17, 2009 7:00 PMoleander soup Subject: Re: magnesium Well Bob. We will never get it right, because one source says take it internally and other sources say aplly trandermally. Who knows who's right and who's wrong ? so we do what ever we think is right, and the problem is solved, rather then go crazy wondering. Thanks for the info though. Hugs Mary - Bobby E Rehberg oleander soup Friday, December 18, 2009 10:44 AM RE: magnesium Magnesium is good stuff. It is in the center of the chlorophyll molecule which makes plants green, so eating green vegetables will supply a lot of Mg. if you want to supplement then use magnesium citrate or other organically complexed Mg in order to slow absorption and reduce intestinal problems. It makes no sense to rub a divalent cation on one’s skin and expect a lot of absorption, it is much better to take internally. Bob R oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of MariaThursday, December 17, 2009 5:36 PMoleander soup Subject: Re: magnesium Magnesium Mary, it's called Magnesium girl , you see i cant spell, oh boy !!!! Lol - Maria oleander soup Friday, December 18, 2009 8:01 AM Re: magnesium Hi Barbara. Here is an article by Walter last about Madnesium and how to make your own, trandermal oil sort of speak because is not an oil, it's called oil because itT slippery on the skin. Hope this help you. Hugs Mary http://www.health-science-spirit.com/magnesiumchloride.html - barbara elenniss oleander soup Friday, December 18, 2009 2:59 AM Re: magnesium Janet and Judy,thanks for the info.Where does one get transderman magnesium?Yep! i mixed them up: selenium is from Brazil nuts. Thanks,Barbara N Germany--- On Wed, 12/16/09, lostrin <lostrin > wrote: lostrin <lostrin >Re: magnesiumoleander soup Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 4:51 PM Have you tried transdermal magnesium? Put it on about 20 minutes before your nighttime shower.Janet 2009/12/16 judithmarg <judithmarg > You wrote--I have been reading a book about Magnesium, The Magnesius Miracle I think is the name of it. I have never taken Magnesium, although I know now that my body needs it. Probably the reason I have insominia every night. I understand and could be wrong, but can't one get magnesium form brazil nuts, and if one orders and gets organic ones would that not suffice or does one stilll need to take the supplements?While they may contain some Magnesium, the thing Brazil nuts are usually known for is selenium. Concerning magnesium, supplementation seems to be helpful for a lot of people, but the concensus seems to be to avoid the oxide (cheapest, usually) form, as it is not very well used and most apt to cause bowel grief.Blessings as you enjoy time with your family.Judy -- Live on earth as if you want to stay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 19, 2009 at first I thought it said drunk tank and since I've never been in one of them/...LOL Just kidding!Seriously I have NEVER even heard of a float tank, but i like the sound of it and I definitely will reall ALL the articles:-)Thanks Mary, you're a gem.barbara N Germany...where it is COLD and SNOWING--- On Fri, 12/18/09, Maria <mary1kon wrote:Maria <mary1konRe: magnesiumoleander soup Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 5:24 PM  Hi Barbara. Go to this side and read all the articles on Magnesium , they are on the right side of the page, and maybe you will find all about floatting in Magnesium. Happy reading . Hugs Mary . http://magnesiumforlife.com/transdermal-magnesium/ - barbara elenniss oleander soup Saturday, December 19, 2009 2:39 AM RE: magnesium OOPS! that email got away from me, I was hitting keys and then it was gone...anyway what in the heck is a float tank. Never heard of it. Barbara N. Germany--- On Fri, 12/18/09, Galim <galim (AT) inter (DOT) net.il> wrote: Galim <galim (AT) inter (DOT) net.il>RE: magnesiumoleander soupFriday, December 18, 2009, 7:29 AM Another excellent way of getting Magnesium is a session in a float tank. It is first of all an amazingly efficient way of accessing very deep states of relaxation and the secondary benefits are the absorbtion of MAGNESIUM sulphate heap-hydrate. Jeremy oleander soup [oleandersou p ] On Behalf Of Bobby E RehbergFriday, December 18, 2009 2:21 PMoleander soupRE: magnesium Nothing to wonder about in this case. The laws of chemistry are not subject to change. Somebody is trying to sell something--- P T. Barnum was right. Bob R oleander soup [oleandersou p ] On Behalf Of MariaThursday, December 17, 2009 7:00 PMoleander soupRe: magnesium Well Bob. We will never get it right, because one source says take it internally and other sources say aplly trandermally. Who knows who's right and who's wrong ? so we do what ever we think is right, and the problem is solved, rather then go crazy wondering. Thanks for the info though. Hugs Mary - Bobby E Rehberg oleander soup Friday, December 18, 2009 10:44 AM RE: magnesium Magnesium is good stuff. It is in the center of the chlorophyll molecule which makes plants green, so eating green vegetables will supply a lot of Mg. if you want to supplement then use magnesium citrate or other organically complexed Mg in order to slow absorption and reduce intestinal problems. It makes no sense to rub a divalent cation on one’s skin and expect a lot of absorption, it is much better to take internally. Bob R oleander soup [oleandersou p ] On Behalf Of MariaThursday, December 17, 2009 5:36 PMoleander soupRe: magnesium Magnesium Mary, it's called Magnesium girl , you see i cant spell, oh boy !!!! Lol - Maria oleander soup Friday, December 18, 2009 8:01 AM Re: magnesium Hi Barbara. Here is an article by Walter last about Madnesium and how to make your own, trandermal oil sort of speak because is not an oil, it's called oil because itT slippery on the skin. Hope this help you. Hugs Mary http://www.health- science-spirit. com/magnesiumchl oride.html - barbara elenniss oleander soup Friday, December 18, 2009 2:59 AM Re: magnesium Janet and Judy,thanks for the info.Where does one get transderman magnesium?Yep! i mixed them up: selenium is from Brazil nuts. Thanks,Barbara N Germany--- On Wed, 12/16/09, lostrin <lostrin (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: lostrin <lostrin (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: magnesiumoleander soupWednesday, December 16, 2009, 4:51 PM Have you tried transdermal magnesium? Put it on about 20 minutes before your nighttime shower.Janet 2009/12/16 judithmarg <judithmarg > You wrote--I have been reading a book about Magnesium, The Magnesius Miracle I think is the name of it. I have never taken Magnesium, although I know now that my body needs it. Probably the reason I have insominia every night. I understand and could be wrong, but can't one get magnesium form brazil nuts, and if one orders and gets organic ones would that not suffice or does one stilll need to take the supplements?While they may contain some Magnesium, the thing Brazil nuts are usually known for is selenium. Concerning magnesium, supplementation seems to be helpful for a lot of people, but the concensus seems to be to avoid the oxide (cheapest, usually) form, as it is not very well used and most apt to cause bowel grief.Blessings as you enjoy time with your family.Judy -- Live on earth as if you want to stay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 19, 2009 Try this link as a beginning. Or Google " float tank " . Beyond the aspect of Magnesium absorbtion floating is a most powerful almost instantaneous method of deep relaxation. That in itself will have many benefits in healing. Jeremy oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of barbara elenniss Friday, December 18, 2009 5:40 PM oleander soup RE: magnesium OOPS! that email got away from me, I was hitting keys and then it was gone...anyway what in the heck is a float tank. Never heard of it. Barbara N. Germany --- On Fri, 12/18/09, Galim <galim wrote: Galim <galim RE: magnesium oleander soup Friday, December 18, 2009, 7:29 AM Another excellent way of getting Magnesium is a session in a float tank. It is first of all an amazingly efficient way of accessing very deep states of relaxation and the secondary benefits are the absorbtion of MAGNESIUM sulphate heap-hydrate. Jeremy oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of Bobby E Rehberg Friday, December 18, 2009 2:21 PM oleander soup RE: magnesium Nothing to wonder about in this case. The laws of chemistry are not subject to change. Somebody is trying to sell something---P. T. Barnum was right. Bob R oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of Maria Thursday, December 17, 2009 7:00 PM oleander soup Re: magnesium Well Bob. We will never get it right, because one source says take it internally and other sources say aplly trandermally. Who knows who's right and who's wrong ? so we do what ever we think is right, and the problem is solved, rather then go crazy wondering. Thanks for the info though. Hugs Mary - Bobby E Rehberg oleander soup Friday, December 18, 2009 10:44 AM Subject: RE: magnesium Magnesium is good stuff. It is in the center of the chlorophyll molecule which makes plants green, so eating green vegetables will supply a lot of Mg. if you want to supplement then use magnesium citrate or other organically complexed Mg in order to slow absorption and reduce intestinal problems. It makes no sense to rub a divalent cation on one’s skin and expect a lot of absorption, it is much better to take internally. Bob R oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of Maria Thursday, December 17, 2009 5:36 PM oleander soup Re: magnesium Magnesium Mary, it's called Magnesium girl , you see i cant spell, oh boy !!!! Lol - Maria oleander soup Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 8:01 AM Subject: Re: magnesium Hi Barbara. Here is an article by Walter last about Madnesium and how to make your own, trandermal oil sort of speak because is not an oil, it's called oil because itT slippery on the skin. Hope this help you. Hugs Mary http://www.health-science-spirit.com/magnesiumchloride.html - barbara elenniss oleander soup Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 2:59 AM Subject: Re: magnesium Janet and Judy, thanks for the info. Where does one get transderman magnesium? Yep! i mixed them up: selenium is from Brazil nuts. Thanks, Barbara N Germany --- On Wed, 12/16/09, lostrin <lostrin wrote: lostrin <lostrin Re: magnesium oleander soup Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 4:51 PM Have you tried transdermal magnesium? Put it on about 20 minutes before your nighttime shower. Janet 2009/12/16 judithmarg <judithmarg You wrote--I have been reading a book about Magnesium, The Magnesius Miracle I think is the name of it. I have never taken Magnesium, although I know now that my body needs it. Probably the reason I have insominia every night. I understand and could be wrong, but can't one get magnesium form brazil nuts, and if one orders and gets organic ones would that not suffice or does one stilll need to take the supplements? While they may contain some Magnesium, the thing Brazil nuts are usually known for is selenium. Concerning magnesium, supplementation seems to be helpful for a lot of people, but the concensus seems to be to avoid the oxide (cheapest, usually) form, as it is not very well used and most apt to cause bowel grief. Blessings as you enjoy time with your family. Judy -- Live on earth as if you want to stay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
