Guest guest Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 When do you all think sinus infections need to be treated with antibiotics? My son (age 7) had a cough that turned into a sinus infection. I'd normally just let it work itself out and never go to the doctor- he normally kicks infections quickly. but schools starts in a week. And his cough sounds absolutely terrible. He's a little stinker for trying anything other than yummy medicine. I'd thought about just cleaning his sinuses with saline regularly but I imagine he'll tell me after the first time " just give me the antibiotics like the doctor said, mom. " Though the saline wash should provide him with immediate relief. Thanks- Krissy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Krissy, in my opinion, NO sinus infection should ever be treated with antibiotics. This will only further destroy the 'good flora' in your sons gut causing yet a more serious candida infection. Drs are clueless, they are " mass prescription writers " and they only know what the drug companies want them to know. The most prominent causes for sinus problems are candida, toxic reactions to food or beverages, and infection as well as inhalant allergies must be regarded as secondary causes. I would higly recommend you go to my free 'eBook' and scroll down to " Systemic infections in children " , this will help you understand the difference between intolerances and allergies. Russ http://www.naturalhealingsolutions.com , " krissy_texas " <krissy_texas> wrote: > When do you all think sinus infections need to be treated with > antibiotics? My son (age 7) had a cough that turned into a sinus > infection. I'd normally just let it work itself out and never go to > the doctor- he normally kicks infections quickly. but schools starts > in a week. And his cough sounds absolutely terrible. He's a little > stinker for trying anything other than yummy medicine. I'd thought > about just cleaning his sinuses with saline regularly but I imagine > he'll tell me after the first time " just give me the antibiotics like > the doctor said, mom. " Though the saline wash should provide him > with immediate relief. > > Thanks- > Krissy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Depends on whether or not there are actual buggies causing the problems. If so, they may not go away without antibiotics. There are so many types of problems with sinuses, however, that it's hard to tell. Becca In a message dated 8/9/2004 12:00:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, " krissy_texas " <krissy_texas writes: >When do you all think sinus infections need to be treated with >antibiotics? My son (age 7) had a cough that turned into a sinus >infection. I'd normally just let it work itself out and never go to >the doctor- he normally kicks infections quickly. but schools starts >in a week. And his cough sounds absolutely terrible. He's a little >stinker for trying anything other than yummy medicine. I'd thought >about just cleaning his sinuses with saline regularly but I imagine >he'll tell me after the first time " just give me the antibiotics like >the doctor said, mom. " Though the saline wash should provide him >with immediate relief. > >Thanks- >Krissy > > > > > >********************************************* >WWW.PEACEFULMIND.COM Sponsors Alternative Answers- > >HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of HOLISTIC HEALTH. Preventative and Curative measure to take for many ailments at: >http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments_frame.htm >__________ > >-To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this address in an email to them: >http://www./members_add > >_________ >To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: > >http://www./links > >___________ > > Post message: > Subscribe: - > Un: - > List owner: -owner >_______ >Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Never. About ten years ago I got my first sinus infection. Took antibiotics. It went away. It came back. More antibiotics, which didn't work as well. Another sinus infection. More antibiotics, which didn't work. A different antibiotic. After 4 infections and 5 antibiotics that year, I'd had enough. Ever since then, I've had chronic sinus problems (with stuffiness that interferes with sleep and headaches) that I believe are a result of those antibiotics. Now when it flares into an infection I get rid of it by breathing steam with eucalyptus oil, using salt water washes (I add grapefruit seed extract), spicy foods and herbal teas to decongest and thin the mucus, a homeopathic remedy, caffeine, vitamin C, lots of garlic, maybe on OTC decongestant. I choose a few from that list; I don't use them all every time. I DON"T use antibiotics. Linda - krissy_texas Monday, August 09, 2004 9:00 AM Sinus infections and antibiotics When do you all think sinus infections need to be treated with antibiotics? My son (age 7) had a cough that turned into a sinus infection. I'd normally just let it work itself out and never go to the doctor- he normally kicks infections quickly. but schools starts in a week. And his cough sounds absolutely terrible. He's a little stinker for trying anything other than yummy medicine. I'd thought about just cleaning his sinuses with saline regularly but I imagine he'll tell me after the first time "just give me the antibiotics like the doctor said, mom." Though the saline wash should provide him with immediate relief.Thanks-Krissy********************************************* WWW.PEACEFULMIND.COM Sponsors Alternative Answers-HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of HOLISTIC HEALTH. Preventative and Curative measure to take for many ailments at:http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments_frame.htm__________-To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this address in an email to them:http://www./members_add _________To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: http://www./links___________Community email addresses: Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner _______Shortcut URL to this page: http://www. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 Dear Krissy, There is a wonderful herb known as chaparral or Larrea tridentata. The American Indians call it Shegoi, the mother of all plants and, interestingly enough, some carbon dated at over 18,000 years. It is anti viral, anti fungal, anti microbial, antibacterial and the most powerful anti inflammatory I have ever encountered, It grows wildcrafted in the most difficult of environments, including Death Valley. For those of you who would prefer to use more locally grown herbs, there are 40 million acres of this in the US. In any case, I would give serious consideration to its use with your son. Although stating on the label not to use it with children, I and many others do so with complete safety. Incidentally, it is a literal medicine chest and can be used topically as well as systemically. The penetrating spray will completely alleviate pain because of its anti inflammatory activity, wheter that of a human or an adopted pet. You are welcome to research the following View my website - krissy_texas Monday, August 09, 2004 9:00 AM Sinus infections and antibiotics When do you all think sinus infections need to be treated with antibiotics? My son (age 7) had a cough that turned into a sinus infection. I'd normally just let it work itself out and never go to the doctor- he normally kicks infections quickly. but schools starts in a week. And his cough sounds absolutely terrible. He's a little stinker for trying anything other than yummy medicine. I'd thought about just cleaning his sinuses with saline regularly but I imagine he'll tell me after the first time "just give me the antibiotics like the doctor said, mom." Though the saline wash should provide him with immediate relief.Thanks-Krissy********************************************* WWW.PEACEFULMIND.COM Sponsors Alternative Answers-HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of HOLISTIC HEALTH. Preventative and Curative measure to take for many ailments at:http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments_frame.htm__________-To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this address in an email to them:http://www./members_add _________To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: http://www./links___________Community email addresses: Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner _______Shortcut URL to this page: http://www. ********************************************* WWW.PEACEFULMIND.COM Sponsors Alternative Answers-HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of HOLISTIC HEALTH. Preventative and Curative measure to take for many ailments at:http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments_frame.htm__________-To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this address in an email to them:http://www./members_add _________To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: http://www./links___________Community email addresses: Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner _______Shortcut URL to this page: http://www. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 Exactly right Linda, people need to understand that drugs do NOT cure anybody of ANYTHING, all they do is TREAT symptoms, suppress the body, destroy the immune system, leaving the body in a weaker state. Here is a good link for you. Russ/CL http://campaignfortruth.com/Eclub/230304/CTM-cancer%20death%20by%20medicine%20fr\ ames.htm , " Linda Bumpas " <lindabumpas@c...> wrote: > Never. About ten years ago I got my first sinus infection. Took antibiotics. It went away. It came back. More antibiotics, which didn't work as well. Another sinus infection. More antibiotics, which didn't work. A different antibiotic. After 4 infections and 5 antibiotics that year, I'd had enough. Ever since then, I've had chronic sinus problems (with stuffiness that interferes with sleep and headaches) that I believe are a result of those antibiotics. Now when it flares into an infection I get rid of it by breathing steam with eucalyptus oil, using salt water washes (I add grapefruit seed extract), spicy foods and herbal teas to decongest and thin the mucus, a homeopathic remedy, caffeine, vitamin C, lots of garlic, maybe on OTC decongestant. I choose a few from that list; I don't use them all every time. I DON " T use antibiotics. > > Linda > > > - > krissy_texas > > Monday, August 09, 2004 9:00 AM > Sinus infections and antibiotics > > > When do you all think sinus infections need to be treated with > antibiotics? My son (age 7) had a cough that turned into a sinus > infection. I'd normally just let it work itself out and never go to > the doctor- he normally kicks infections quickly. but schools starts > in a week. And his cough sounds absolutely terrible. He's a little > stinker for trying anything other than yummy medicine. I'd thought > about just cleaning his sinuses with saline regularly but I imagine > he'll tell me after the first time " just give me the antibiotics like > the doctor said, mom. " Though the saline wash should provide him > with immediate relief. > > Thanks- > Krissy > > > > > ********************************************* > WWW.PEACEFULMIND.COM Sponsors Alternative Answers- > > HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of HOLISTIC HEALTH. Preventative and Curative measure to take for many ailments at: > http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments_frame.htm > __________ > > -To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this address in an email to them: > http://www./members_add > > _________ > To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: > > http://www./links > > ___________ > > Post message: > Subscribe: - > Un: - > List owner: -owner > _______ > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 Thanks for the advice everyone! What happened is that my son's daycamp was complaining that he needed to go to the doctor for his cough. I didn't think so - it wasn't interrupting his play or sleep- but I didn't want a CPS call either! So the doctor gave us the prescription and my son heard it all. I gave it 24 hours to clear up and my son was literally begging for the antibiotics by then 'cause the doctor had told him he needed to take them. so he got them. but never again. We're switching doctors- or rather giving up on MD's entirely. The price of copays these days, it's only a little more to see an alternative doctor. The main problem is that my son is 7 and I couldn't get him to do the saline wash. And he's convinced that the decongestant doesn't work--- which earlier on would have kept the " gunk " off his sinuses so maybe they wouldn't have gotten infected. So I just did the eucalyptus. which helped some but he still had the cough. His cough was obviously clearing up on its own- it was noticably improved the afternoon after I gave him the antibiotics. I'm thinking it wasn't the antibiotics. He was already on his way to being better. thanks, Krissy , " Linda Bumpas " <lindabumpas@c...> wrote: > Never. About ten years ago I got my first sinus infection. Took antibiotics. It went away. It came back. More antibiotics, which didn't work as well. Another sinus infection. More antibiotics, which didn't work. A different antibiotic. After 4 infections and 5 antibiotics that year, I'd had enough. Ever since then, I've had chronic sinus problems (with stuffiness that interferes with sleep and headaches) that I believe are a result of those antibiotics. Now when it flares into an infection I get rid of it by breathing steam with eucalyptus oil, using salt water washes (I add grapefruit seed extract), spicy foods and herbal teas to decongest and thin the mucus, a homeopathic remedy, caffeine, vitamin C, lots of garlic, maybe on OTC decongestant. I choose a few from that list; I don't use them all every time. I DON " T use antibiotics. > > Linda > > > - > krissy_texas > > Monday, August 09, 2004 9:00 AM > Sinus infections and antibiotics > > > When do you all think sinus infections need to be treated with > antibiotics? My son (age 7) had a cough that turned into a sinus > infection. I'd normally just let it work itself out and never go to > the doctor- he normally kicks infections quickly. but schools starts > in a week. And his cough sounds absolutely terrible. He's a little > stinker for trying anything other than yummy medicine. I'd thought > about just cleaning his sinuses with saline regularly but I imagine > he'll tell me after the first time " just give me the antibiotics like > the doctor said, mom. " Though the saline wash should provide him > with immediate relief. > > Thanks- > Krissy > > > > > ********************************************* > WWW.PEACEFULMIND.COM Sponsors Alternative Answers- > > HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of HOLISTIC HEALTH. Preventative and Curative measure to take for many ailments at: > http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments_frame.htm > __________ > > -To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this address in an email to them: > http://www./members_add > > _________ > To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: > > http://www./links > > ___________ > > Post message: > Subscribe: - > Un: - > List owner: -owner > _______ > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 Linda wrote: Ever since then, I've had chronic sinus problems (with stuffiness that interferes with sleep and headaches) that I believe are a result of those antibiotics. Linda, one never knows what works for who(m?). But let me just share that many people have found relief from sinus problems after sipping a delicious cup of Shipibo Treasure Tea. Yes, this is my business. And: I will be happy to send you a free sample, no obligation. By the way, is anyone on the list who asked for a sample still waiting??? I kind of lost track there. Ien in the Kootenays************************************************"There are only two ways to live your life.One, as if nothing is a miracle.The other as though everything is."~Albert Einstein.************************************************Rainforest Miracles: http://wildhealing.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 Krissy, It certainly IS the antibiotics, as these drugs will only exacerbate his existing condition, destroying the good flora in his gut, thus, causing more of a systemic candida infection, which these fungi end up in the sinuses. Understand that candida is 'systemic', traveling around in the blood/lymph, infecting all the organs, and it can come out the eyes, ears, nose, rectum, vagina, virtuallly every pour in the body can and will secrete fungal poisons. Your still missing the point, antibiotics 'suppress symptoms', they do not CURE ANYTHING, he still has the problem, and when he gets off the antibiotics, it can come back with a vengeance. The best thing you can do is to leave the drs alone, and yet, you still have not read my 'eBook' for systemic infections. Parents really need to educate themselves to the facts, so that you can make informed decisions about all your loved ones. His coughing is due to post nasal drip (more fungi) from his nose, dripping down into his throat, then going into his lungs. Decongestants, saline wash are useless and so is eucalyptus. You need to go after the CAUSE. Get some Oil of Oreagno (make sure it's edible and has at least a 70% carvacrol rating) put 3 drops under his tongue, 3x a day, followed with lots of water. Also rub some around his ears, under his eyes and around his sinuses above the eyes. This will not only stop the cough, it will destroy the pathogens in the eustachian tubes, causing the sinuse problems, namely candida. Russ/CL , " krissy_texas " <krissy_texas> wrote: > Thanks for the advice everyone! > What happened is that my son's daycamp was complaining that he needed > to go to the doctor for his cough. I didn't think so - it wasn't > interrupting his play or sleep- but I didn't want a CPS call either! > So the doctor gave us the prescription and my son heard it all. I > gave it 24 hours to clear up and my son was literally begging for the > antibiotics by then 'cause the doctor had told him he needed to take > them. so he got them. but never again. > We're switching doctors- or rather giving up on MD's entirely. The > price of copays these days, it's only a little more to see an > alternative doctor. > The main problem is that my son is 7 and I couldn't get him to do the > saline wash. And he's convinced that the decongestant doesn't work--- > which earlier on would have kept the " gunk " off his sinuses so maybe > they wouldn't have gotten infected. So I just did the eucalyptus. > which helped some but he still had the cough. > His cough was obviously clearing up on its own- it was noticably > improved the afternoon after I gave him the antibiotics. I'm > thinking it wasn't the antibiotics. He was already on his way to > being better. > > thanks, > > Krissy > > > > , " Linda Bumpas " > <lindabumpas@c...> wrote: > > Never. About ten years ago I got my first sinus infection. Took > antibiotics. It went away. It came back. More antibiotics, which > didn't work as well. Another sinus infection. More antibiotics, > which didn't work. A different antibiotic. After 4 infections and 5 > antibiotics that year, I'd had enough. Ever since then, I've had > chronic sinus problems (with stuffiness that interferes with sleep > and headaches) that I believe are a result of those antibiotics. Now > when it flares into an infection I get rid of it by breathing steam > with eucalyptus oil, using salt water washes (I add grapefruit seed > extract), spicy foods and herbal teas to decongest and thin the > mucus, a homeopathic remedy, caffeine, vitamin C, lots of garlic, > maybe on OTC decongestant. I choose a few from that list; I don't > use them all every time. I DON " T use antibiotics. > > > > Linda > > > > > > - > > krissy_texas > > > > Monday, August 09, 2004 9:00 AM > > Sinus infections and antibiotics > > > > > > When do you all think sinus infections need to be treated with > > antibiotics? My son (age 7) had a cough that turned into a sinus > > infection. I'd normally just let it work itself out and never > go to > > the doctor- he normally kicks infections quickly. but schools > starts > > in a week. And his cough sounds absolutely terrible. He's a > little > > stinker for trying anything other than yummy medicine. I'd > thought > > about just cleaning his sinuses with saline regularly but I > imagine > > he'll tell me after the first time " just give me the antibiotics > like > > the doctor said, mom. " Though the saline wash should provide him > > with immediate relief. > > > > Thanks- > > Krissy > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************* > > WWW.PEACEFULMIND.COM Sponsors Alternative Answers- > > > > HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of HOLISTIC HEALTH. > Preventative and Curative measure to take for many ailments at: > > http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments_frame.htm > > __________ > > > > -To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this > address in an email to them: > > http://www./members_add > > > > _________ > > To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please > Go to: > > > > http://www./links > > > > ___________ > > > > Post message: > > Subscribe: - > > Un: - > > List owner: -owner > > _______ > > Shortcut URL to this page: > > http://www. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 Krissy in Texas wrote: We're switching doctors- or rather giving up on MD's entirely. The price of copays these days, it's only a little more to see an alternative doctor. YEAH!!!!! Congratulations for taking responsibility for your own life. Will you let the old doctor know why you quit??? Ien in the Kootenays************************************************"There are only two ways to live your life.One, as if nothing is a miracle.The other as though everything is."~Albert Einstein.************************************************Rainforest Miracles: http://wildhealing.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2004 Report Share Posted August 14, 2004 Try an Intergrative MD They are amazing! Find someone who uses IV Therapy to rebuild the system with vitamins & supplements .. I am having amazing results! and I have had awful doc experiences my entire life .. I am now 42 . . wishing love & prayers. . gkb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2004 Report Share Posted August 14, 2004 How would you get rid of candida in the rest of the body? Where is your ebook? Linda - russnhs Friday, August 13, 2004 9:53 AM Re: Sinus infections and antibiotics Krissy,It certainly IS the antibiotics, as these drugs will only exacerbatehis existing condition, destroying the good flora in his gut, thus,causing more of a systemic candida infection, which these fungi end upin the sinuses. Understand that candida is 'systemic', travelingaround in the blood/lymph, infecting all the organs, and it can comeout the eyes, ears, nose, rectum, vagina, virtuallly every pour in thebody can and will secrete fungal poisons. Your still missing thepoint, antibiotics 'suppress symptoms', they do not CURE ANYTHING, hestill has the problem, and when he gets off the antibiotics, it cancome back with a vengeance.The best thing you can do is to leave the drs alone, and yet, youstill have not read my 'eBook' for systemic infections. Parentsreally need to educate themselves to the facts, so that you can makeinformed decisions about all your loved ones.His coughing is due to post nasal drip (more fungi) from his nose,dripping down into his throat, then going into his lungs. Decongestants, saline wash are useless and so is eucalyptus. You needto go after the CAUSE. Get some Oil of Oreagno (make sure it's edibleand has at least a 70% carvacrol rating) put 3 drops under his tongue,3x a day, followed with lots of water. Also rub some around his ears,under his eyes and around his sinuses above the eyes. This will notonly stop the cough, it will destroy the pathogens in the eustachiantubes, causing the sinuse problems, namely candida.Russ/CL , "krissy_texas"<krissy_texas> wrote:> Thanks for the advice everyone!> What happened is that my son's daycamp was complaining that he needed > to go to the doctor for his cough. I didn't think so - it wasn't > interrupting his play or sleep- but I didn't want a CPS call either!> So the doctor gave us the prescription and my son heard it all. I > gave it 24 hours to clear up and my son was literally begging for the > antibiotics by then 'cause the doctor had told him he needed to take > them. so he got them. but never again.> We're switching doctors- or rather giving up on MD's entirely. The > price of copays these days, it's only a little more to see an > alternative doctor. > The main problem is that my son is 7 and I couldn't get him to do the > saline wash. And he's convinced that the decongestant doesn't work---> which earlier on would have kept the "gunk" off his sinuses so maybe > they wouldn't have gotten infected. So I just did the eucalyptus. > which helped some but he still had the cough.> His cough was obviously clearing up on its own- it was noticably > improved the afternoon after I gave him the antibiotics. I'm > thinking it wasn't the antibiotics. He was already on his way to > being better.> > thanks,> > Krissy> > > > , "Linda Bumpas" > <lindabumpas@c...> wrote:> > Never. About ten years ago I got my first sinus infection. Took > antibiotics. It went away. It came back. More antibiotics, which > didn't work as well. Another sinus infection. More antibiotics, > which didn't work. A different antibiotic. After 4 infections and 5 > antibiotics that year, I'd had enough. Ever since then, I've had > chronic sinus problems (with stuffiness that interferes with sleep > and headaches) that I believe are a result of those antibiotics. Now > when it flares into an infection I get rid of it by breathing steam > with eucalyptus oil, using salt water washes (I add grapefruit seed > extract), spicy foods and herbal teas to decongest and thin the > mucus, a homeopathic remedy, caffeine, vitamin C, lots of garlic, > maybe on OTC decongestant. I choose a few from that list; I don't > use them all every time. I DON"T use antibiotics.> > > > Linda> > > > > > - > > krissy_texas > > > > Monday, August 09, 2004 9:00 AM> > Sinus infections and antibiotics> > > > > > When do you all think sinus infections need to be treated with > > antibiotics? My son (age 7) had a cough that turned into a sinus > > infection. I'd normally just let it work itself out and never > go to > > the doctor- he normally kicks infections quickly. but schools > starts > > in a week. And his cough sounds absolutely terrible. He's a > little > > stinker for trying anything other than yummy medicine. I'd > thought > > about just cleaning his sinuses with saline regularly but I > imagine > > he'll tell me after the first time "just give me the antibiotics > like > > the doctor said, mom." Though the saline wash should provide him > > with immediate relief.> > > > Thanks-> > Krissy> > > > > > > > > > ********************************************* > > WWW.PEACEFULMIND.COM Sponsors Alternative Answers-> > > > HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of HOLISTIC HEALTH. > Preventative and Curative measure to take for many ailments at:> > http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments_frame.htm> > __________> > > > -To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this > address in an email to them:> > http://www./members_add > > > > _________> > To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please > Go to: > > > > http://www./links> > > > ___________> > > > Post message: > > Subscribe: - > > Un: - > > List owner: -owner > > _______> > Shortcut URL to this page:> > http://www. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2004 Report Share Posted August 14, 2004 Dear Linda, Candida always indicates that there is systemic acidosis in the body. What I am saying is that one who experiences this is best advised to examine the pH balance within their body. Contrary to the theories of Louis Pasteur which literally side tracked the whole of medicine, pleomorphism indicates that ph imbalance creates a perfect environment for the transmutation of the life factors within the red blood cells into bacteria, virus, yeast and fungus and finally mold. Thus, contrary to allopathic medicine, one doesn't fight candida or even get rid of it. One merely introduces ph Balance and reverses the process by which the life factor within the red blood cells transmutated into candida and thus replaces the candida with red blood cells. I would suggest reading ph Balance by Robert and Shelley Young and visiting my web site www.innerlightinc.net/drsabrown Much Love in Spirit, Stephen Linda Bumpas [lindabumpas]Saturday, August 14, 2004 12:34 AM Subject: Re: Re: Sinus infections and antibiotics How would you get rid of candida in the rest of the body? Where is your ebook? Linda - russnhs Friday, August 13, 2004 9:53 AM Re: Sinus infections and antibiotics Krissy,It certainly IS the antibiotics, as these drugs will only exacerbatehis existing condition, destroying the good flora in his gut, thus,causing more of a systemic candida infection, which these fungi end upin the sinuses. Understand that candida is 'systemic', travelingaround in the blood/lymph, infecting all the organs, and it can comeout the eyes, ears, nose, rectum, vagina, virtuallly every pour in thebody can and will secrete fungal poisons. Your still missing thepoint, antibiotics 'suppress symptoms', they do not CURE ANYTHING, hestill has the problem, and when he gets off the antibiotics, it cancome back with a vengeance.The best thing you can do is to leave the drs alone, and yet, youstill have not read my 'eBook' for systemic infections. Parentsreally need to educate themselves to the facts, so that you can makeinformed decisions about all your loved ones.His coughing is due to post nasal drip (more fungi) from his nose,dripping down into his throat, then going into his lungs. Decongestants, saline wash are useless and so is eucalyptus. You needto go after the CAUSE. Get some Oil of Oreagno (make sure it's edibleand has at least a 70% carvacrol rating) put 3 drops under his tongue,3x a day, followed with lots of water. Also rub some around his ears,under his eyes and around his sinuses above the eyes. This will notonly stop the cough, it will destroy the pathogens in the eustachiantubes, causing the sinuse problems, namely candida.Russ/CL , "krissy_texas"<krissy_texas> wrote:> Thanks for the advice everyone!> What happened is that my son's daycamp was complaining that he needed > to go to the doctor for his cough. I didn't think so - it wasn't > interrupting his play or sleep- but I didn't want a CPS call either!> So the doctor gave us the prescription and my son heard it all. I > gave it 24 hours to clear up and my son was literally begging for the > antibiotics by then 'cause the doctor had told him he needed to take > them. so he got them. but never again.> We're switching doctors- or rather giving up on MD's entirely. The > price of copays these days, it's only a little more to see an > alternative doctor. > The main problem is that my son is 7 and I couldn't get him to do the > saline wash. And he's convinced that the decongestant doesn't work---> which earlier on would have kept the "gunk" off his sinuses so maybe > they wouldn't have gotten infected. So I just did the eucalyptus. > which helped some but he still had the cough.> His cough was obviously clearing up on its own- it was noticably > improved the afternoon after I gave him the antibiotics. I'm > thinking it wasn't the antibiotics. He was already on his way to > being better.> > thanks,> > Krissy> > > > , "Linda Bumpas" > <lindabumpas@c...> wrote:> > Never. About ten years ago I got my first sinus infection. Took > antibiotics. It went away. It came back. More antibiotics, which > didn't work as well. Another sinus infection. More antibiotics, > which didn't work. A different antibiotic. After 4 infections and 5 > antibiotics that year, I'd had enough. Ever since then, I've had > chronic sinus problems (with stuffiness that interferes with sleep > and headaches) that I believe are a result of those antibiotics. Now > when it flares into an infection I get rid of it by breathing steam > with eucalyptus oil, using salt water washes (I add grapefruit seed > extract), spicy foods and herbal teas to decongest and thin the > mucus, a homeopathic remedy, caffeine, vitamin C, lots of garlic, > maybe on OTC decongestant. I choose a few from that list; I don't > use them all every time. I DON"T use antibiotics.> > > > Linda> > > > > > - > > krissy_texas > > > > Monday, August 09, 2004 9:00 AM> > Sinus infections and antibiotics> > > > > > When do you all think sinus infections need to be treated with > > antibiotics? My son (age 7) had a cough that turned into a sinus > > infection. I'd normally just let it work itself out and never > go to > > the doctor- he normally kicks infections quickly. but schools > starts > > in a week. And his cough sounds absolutely terrible. He's a > little > > stinker for trying anything other than yummy medicine. I'd > thought > > about just cleaning his sinuses with saline regularly but I > imagine > > he'll tell me after the first time "just give me the antibiotics > like > > the doctor said, mom." Though the saline wash should provide him > > with immediate relief.> > > > Thanks-> > Krissy> > > > > > > > > > ********************************************* > > WWW.PEACEFULMIND.COM Sponsors Alternative Answers-> > > > HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of HOLISTIC HEALTH. > Preventative and Curative measure to take for many ailments at:> > http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments_frame.htm> > __________> > > > -To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this > address in an email to them:> > http://www./members_add > > > > _________> > To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please > Go to: > > > > http://www./links> > > > ___________> > > > Post message: > > Subscribe: - > > Un: - > > List owner: -owner > > _______> > Shortcut URL to this page:> > http://www. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2004 Report Share Posted August 14, 2004 Fungal infections respond if you take the herb Pau Darco, which is an antifungal herb? When I get sinus infections, I take it and it gets rid of the problem and doesn't upset anything else in my body...Mama Krissy, It certainly IS the antibiotics, as these drugs will only exacerbate his existing condition, destroying the good flora in his gut, thus, causing more of a systemic candida infection, which these fungi end up in the sinuses. Understand that candida is 'systemic', traveling around in the blood/lymph, infecting all the organs, and it can come out the eyes, ears, nose, rectum, vagina, virtuallly every pour in the body can and will secrete fungal poisons. Your still missing the point, antibiotics 'suppress symptoms', they do not CURE ANYTHING, he still has the problem, and when he gets off the antibiotics, it can come back with a vengeance. The best thing you can do is to leave the drs alone, and yet, you still have not read my 'eBook' for systemic infections. Parents really need to educate themselves to the facts, so that you can make informed decisions about all your loved ones. His coughing is due to post nasal drip (more fungi) from his nose, dripping down into his throat, then going into his lungs. Decongestants, saline wash are useless and so is eucalyptus. You need to go after the CAUSE. Get some Oil of Oreagno (make sure it's edible and has at least a 70% carvacrol rating) put 3 drops under his tongue, 3x a day, followed with lots of water. Also rub some around his ears, under his eyes and around his sinuses above the eyes. This will not only stop the cough, it will destroy the pathogens in the eustachian tubes, causing the sinuse problems, namely candida. Russ/CL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2004 Report Share Posted August 14, 2004 My homeopath put me on a cleanse that rid my system of yeast adding good flora such as Jarro can also help and yes where is the ebook --- Linda Bumpas <lindabumpas wrote: > How would you get rid of candida in the rest of the > body? > > Where is your ebook? > > Linda > > > - > russnhs > > Friday, August 13, 2004 9:53 AM > Re: Sinus infections > and antibiotics > > > Krissy, > It certainly IS the antibiotics, as these drugs > will only exacerbate > his existing condition, destroying the good flora > in his gut, thus, > causing more of a systemic candida infection, > which these fungi end up > in the sinuses. Understand that candida is > 'systemic', traveling > around in the blood/lymph, infecting all the > organs, and it can come > out the eyes, ears, nose, rectum, vagina, > virtuallly every pour in the > body can and will secrete fungal poisons. Your > still missing the > point, antibiotics 'suppress symptoms', they do > not CURE ANYTHING, he > still has the problem, and when he gets off the > antibiotics, it can > come back with a vengeance. > The best thing you can do is to leave the drs > alone, and yet, you > still have not read my 'eBook' for systemic > infections. Parents > really need to educate themselves to the facts, so > that you can make > informed decisions about all your loved ones. > His coughing is due to post nasal drip (more > fungi) from his nose, > dripping down into his throat, then going into his > lungs. > Decongestants, saline wash are useless and so is > eucalyptus. You need > to go after the CAUSE. Get some Oil of Oreagno > (make sure it's edible > and has at least a 70% carvacrol rating) put 3 > drops under his tongue, > 3x a day, followed with lots of water. Also rub > some around his ears, > under his eyes and around his sinuses above the > eyes. This will not > only stop the cough, it will destroy the pathogens > in the eustachian > tubes, causing the sinuse problems, namely > candida. > Russ/CL > > > , > " krissy_texas " > <krissy_texas> wrote: > > Thanks for the advice everyone! > > What happened is that my son's daycamp was > complaining that he needed > > to go to the doctor for his cough. I didn't > think so - it wasn't > > interrupting his play or sleep- but I didn't > want a CPS call either! > > So the doctor gave us the prescription and my > son heard it all. I > > gave it 24 hours to clear up and my son was > literally begging for the > > antibiotics by then 'cause the doctor had told > him he needed to take > > them. so he got them. but never again. > > We're switching doctors- or rather giving up on > MD's entirely. The > > price of copays these days, it's only a little > more to see an > > alternative doctor. > > The main problem is that my son is 7 and I > couldn't get him to do the > > saline wash. And he's convinced that the > decongestant doesn't work--- > > which earlier on would have kept the " gunk " off > his sinuses so maybe > > they wouldn't have gotten infected. So I just > did the eucalyptus. > > which helped some but he still had the cough. > > His cough was obviously clearing up on its own- > it was noticably > > improved the afternoon after I gave him the > antibiotics. I'm > > thinking it wasn't the antibiotics. He was > already on his way to > > being better. > > > > thanks, > > > > Krissy > > > > > > > > , > " Linda Bumpas " > > <lindabumpas@c...> wrote: > > > Never. About ten years ago I got my first > sinus infection. Took > > antibiotics. It went away. It came back. More > antibiotics, which > > didn't work as well. Another sinus infection. > More antibiotics, > > which didn't work. A different antibiotic. > After 4 infections and 5 > > antibiotics that year, I'd had enough. Ever > since then, I've had > > chronic sinus problems (with stuffiness that > interferes with sleep > > and headaches) that I believe are a result of > those antibiotics. Now > > when it flares into an infection I get rid of it > by breathing steam > > with eucalyptus oil, using salt water washes (I > add grapefruit seed > > extract), spicy foods and herbal teas to > decongest and thin the > > mucus, a homeopathic remedy, caffeine, vitamin > C, lots of garlic, > > maybe on OTC decongestant. I choose a few from > that list; I don't > > use them all every time. I DON " T use > antibiotics. > > > > > > Linda > > > > > > > > > - > > > krissy_texas > > > > > > Monday, August 09, 2004 9:00 AM > > > Sinus > infections and antibiotics > > > > > > > > > When do you all think sinus infections need > to be treated with > > > antibiotics? My son (age 7) had a cough > that turned into a sinus > > > infection. I'd normally just let it work > itself out and never > > go to > > > the doctor- he normally kicks infections > quickly. but schools > > starts > > > in a week. And his cough sounds absolutely > terrible. He's a > > little > > > stinker for trying anything other than yummy > medicine. I'd > > thought > > > about just cleaning his sinuses with saline > regularly but I > > imagine > > > he'll tell me after the first time " just > give me the antibiotics > > like > > > the doctor said, mom. " Though the saline > wash should provide him > > > with immediate relief. > > > > > > Thanks- > > > Krissy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************* > > > WWW.PEACEFULMIND.COM Sponsors Alternative > Answers- > > > > > > HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of > HOLISTIC HEALTH. > > Preventative and Curative measure to take for > many ailments at: > > > > http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments_frame.htm > > > __________ > > > > > > -To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing > community, copy and paste this > > address in an email to them: > > > > http://www./members_add > > === message truncated === ===== Kellee www.RaysOfSunshine.com One out of every four people is unbalanced , think of three of your friends , if they are OK , YOU ARE THE ONE! Arent you glad I am your friend ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2004 Report Share Posted August 15, 2004 Hello, all. I've been a 'lurker' for some time now. Just a note about oregano oil, it really burns. I would never use it on a child near their eyes, the closest I would get is on the cheekbone...and only one drop. There are sinus points on the toes, and also on the hands. That is a much safer spot. I would opt for the toes. Oregano oil, and cinnamon, clove are all excellent anti-viral, but are also very hot. Be careful to not get any oil in the eyes, and if you do, put vegetable, olive oil in it, water just makes it burn more. I've been using Young Living oils for awhile. I couldn't find the link for the Health Quest oils. Everything is a tool, some better than others... Analise , " russnhs " <ccruss@i...> wrote: > Krissy, > It certainly IS the antibiotics, as these drugs will only exacerbate > his existing condition, destroying the good flora in his gut, thus, > causing more of a systemic candida infection, which these fungi end up > in the sinuses. Understand that candida is 'systemic', traveling > around in the blood/lymph, infecting all the organs, and it can come > out the eyes, ears, nose, rectum, vagina, virtuallly every pour in the > body can and will secrete fungal poisons. Your still missing the > point, antibiotics 'suppress symptoms', they do not CURE ANYTHING, he > still has the problem, and when he gets off the antibiotics, it can > come back with a vengeance. > The best thing you can do is to leave the drs alone, and yet, you > still have not read my 'eBook' for systemic infections. Parents > really need to educate themselves to the facts, so that you can make > informed decisions about all your loved ones. > His coughing is due to post nasal drip (more fungi) from his nose, > dripping down into his throat, then going into his lungs. > Decongestants, saline wash are useless and so is eucalyptus. You need > to go after the CAUSE. Get some Oil of Oreagno (make sure it's edible > and has at least a 70% carvacrol rating) put 3 drops under his tongue, > 3x a day, followed with lots of water. Also rub some around his ears, > under his eyes and around his sinuses above the eyes. This will not > only stop the cough, it will destroy the pathogens in the eustachian > tubes, causing the sinuse problems, namely candida. > Russ/CL > > > , " krissy_texas " > <krissy_texas> wrote: > > Thanks for the advice everyone! > > What happened is that my son's daycamp was complaining that he needed > > to go to the doctor for his cough. I didn't think so - it wasn't > > interrupting his play or sleep- but I didn't want a CPS call either! > > So the doctor gave us the prescription and my son heard it all. I > > gave it 24 hours to clear up and my son was literally begging for the > > antibiotics by then 'cause the doctor had told him he needed to take > > them. so he got them. but never again. > > We're switching doctors- or rather giving up on MD's entirely. The > > price of copays these days, it's only a little more to see an > > alternative doctor. > > The main problem is that my son is 7 and I couldn't get him to do the > > saline wash. And he's convinced that the decongestant doesn't work--- > > which earlier on would have kept the " gunk " off his sinuses so maybe > > they wouldn't have gotten infected. So I just did the eucalyptus. > > which helped some but he still had the cough. > > His cough was obviously clearing up on its own- it was noticably > > improved the afternoon after I gave him the antibiotics. I'm > > thinking it wasn't the antibiotics. He was already on his way to > > being better. > > > > thanks, > > > > Krissy > > > > > > > > , " Linda Bumpas " > > <lindabumpas@c...> wrote: > > > Never. About ten years ago I got my first sinus infection. Took > > antibiotics. It went away. It came back. More antibiotics, which > > didn't work as well. Another sinus infection. More antibiotics, > > which didn't work. A different antibiotic. After 4 infections and 5 > > antibiotics that year, I'd had enough. Ever since then, I've had > > chronic sinus problems (with stuffiness that interferes with sleep > > and headaches) that I believe are a result of those antibiotics. Now > > when it flares into an infection I get rid of it by breathing steam > > with eucalyptus oil, using salt water washes (I add grapefruit seed > > extract), spicy foods and herbal teas to decongest and thin the > > mucus, a homeopathic remedy, caffeine, vitamin C, lots of garlic, > > maybe on OTC decongestant. I choose a few from that list; I don't > > use them all every time. I DON " T use antibiotics. > > > > > > Linda > > > > > > > > > - > > > krissy_texas > > > > > > Monday, August 09, 2004 9:00 AM > > > Sinus infections and antibiotics > > > > > > > > > When do you all think sinus infections need to be treated with > > > antibiotics? My son (age 7) had a cough that turned into a sinus > > > infection. I'd normally just let it work itself out and never > > go to > > > the doctor- he normally kicks infections quickly. but schools > > starts > > > in a week. And his cough sounds absolutely terrible. He's a > > little > > > stinker for trying anything other than yummy medicine. I'd > > thought > > > about just cleaning his sinuses with saline regularly but I > > imagine > > > he'll tell me after the first time " just give me the antibiotics > > like > > > the doctor said, mom. " Though the saline wash should provide him > > > with immediate relief. > > > > > > Thanks- > > > Krissy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************* > > > WWW.PEACEFULMIND.COM Sponsors Alternative Answers- > > > > > > HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of HOLISTIC HEALTH. > > Preventative and Curative measure to take for many ailments at: > > > http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments_frame.htm > > > __________ > > > > > > -To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this > > address in an email to them: > > > http://www./members_add > > > > > > _________ > > > To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please > > Go to: > > > > > > http://www./links > > > > > > ___________ > > > > > > Post message: > > > Subscribe: - > > > Un: - > > > List owner: -owner > > > _______ > > > Shortcut URL to this page: > > > http://www. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2004 Report Share Posted August 15, 2004 I am an intergrative medical school educated physician who specializes in Chelation and other IV therapies.In regard to sinus infection the best treatment is that as described in post #10107. Of course,methods used to rebuild the immune system-such as IV administration of vitamins,minerals and amion acids-as well as PO use of herbs- are vitally important to living a long and disease free life.Another thing that should be mentioned is gluten intolerance.I would estimate that maybe at the most 5-10 % of people who have a sensitivity to gluten are aware of it.Avoidance of gluten-which is very difficult to do-is sometimes the first and biggest step to rebuilding your immune system.Another important step-getting rid of parasites-is important.Every dog,cat,and cow in the world has parasites.Why would anyone think that humans are different in terms of biology.Don't trust your allopath and his lab to diagnose the situation either. Sincerely,Dr John D. Son NMD , gkbmusic@a... wrote: > Try an Intergrative MD They are amazing! Find someone who uses IV Therapy to > rebuild the system with vitamins & supplements .. > I am having amazing results! > > and I have had awful doc experiences my entire life .. I am now 42 . . > wishing love & prayers. . > gkb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 I've heard of that before, but I don't think my 7 year old son would go for IV therapy! plus, it's out of my price range! I've just had not pleasant MD experiences but nothing catastrophic. I just don't like most of them! The one I got was supposed to be alternative leaning but I've never actually gotten to see him since he's always booked when Alex is sick! And I don't really see the point in the annual exams. at least the little that they do! , gkbmusic@a... wrote: > Try an Intergrative MD They are amazing! Find someone who uses IV Therapy to > rebuild the system with vitamins & supplements .. > I am having amazing results! > > and I have had awful doc experiences my entire life .. I am now 42 . . > wishing love & prayers. . > gkb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 I believe the root cause of the sinus problems must be found. It's not a simple A B C for everyone. The word " infection " was brought up initially, which is why I posted that antibiotics indeed might be in order in some cases. We could go back and forth all day with stories - antibiotics are " bad " , but just as the lady posted about her daughter damaged by vaccines, I can tell you that my husband would be dead if it were not for antibiotics, due to a massive septicemia. I think we should avoid the this is good and that is bad, etc. stuff. Herbs and natural remedies can be " bad " if misused. The word " infection " should not be used to describe all sinus problems. Some people may in fact be suffering from allergies. And so on. Everyone needs to determine what works for their particular problem. Becca In a message dated 8/15/2004 10:21:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, " johndson2600 " <johndson2600 writes: > > I am an intergrative medical school educated physician who >specializes in Chelation and other IV therapies.In regard to sinus >infection the best treatment is that as described in post #10107. > Of course,methods used to rebuild the immune system-such as IV >administration of vitamins,minerals and amion acids-as well as PO use >of herbs- are vitally important to living a long and disease free >life.Another thing that should be mentioned is gluten intolerance.I >would estimate that maybe at the most 5-10 % of people who have a >sensitivity to gluten are aware of it.Avoidance of gluten-which is >very difficult to do-is sometimes the first and biggest step to >rebuilding your immune system.Another important step-getting rid of >parasites-is important.Every dog,cat,and cow in the world has >parasites.Why would anyone think that humans are different in terms >of biology.Don't trust your allopath and his lab to diagnose the >situation either. > Sincerely,Dr John D. Son NMD > , gkbmusic@a... wrote: >> Try an Intergrative MD They are amazing! Find someone who uses IV >Therapy to >> rebuild the system with vitamins & supplements .. >> I am having amazing results! >> >> and I have had awful doc experiences my entire life .. I am now >42 . . >> wishing love & prayers. . >> gkb > > > > > >********************************************* >WWW.PEACEFULMIND.COM Sponsors Alternative Answers- > >HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of HOLISTIC HEALTH. Preventative and Curative measure to take for many ailments at: >http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments_frame.htm >__________ > >-To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this address in an email to them: >http://www./members_add > >_________ >To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: > >http://www./links > >___________ > > Post message: > Subscribe: - > Un: - > List owner: -owner >_______ >Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 In the proper dilution, Oregano oil should not burn topically, it may get a little warm, but never burn. Now RAW oregano oil should NEVER be put directly on the skin or taken internally, this will burn. Our O of O is diluted with Extra Virgin Olive Oil, cold pressed and very pure. Always be aware of Oregano oils, and read the labels, as some oreganos should never be taken internally. Russ , " ajrbass69 " <ajreed@h...> wrote: > Hello, all. I've been a 'lurker' for some time now. > Just a note about oregano oil, it really burns. I would never use > it on a child near their eyes, the closest I would get is on the > cheekbone...and only one drop. There are sinus points on the toes, > and also on the hands. That is a much safer spot. I would opt for > the toes. > Oregano oil, and cinnamon, clove are all excellent anti-viral, but > are also very hot. Be careful to not get any oil in the eyes, and > if you do, put vegetable, olive oil in it, water just makes it burn > more. > I've been using Young Living oils for awhile. I couldn't find the > link for the Health Quest oils. Everything is a tool, some better > than others... > Analise > > > > > , " russnhs " <ccruss@i...> > wrote: > > Krissy, > > It certainly IS the antibiotics, as these drugs will only > exacerbate > > his existing condition, destroying the good flora in his gut, thus, > > causing more of a systemic candida infection, which these fungi > end up > > in the sinuses. Understand that candida is 'systemic', traveling > > around in the blood/lymph, infecting all the organs, and it can > come > > out the eyes, ears, nose, rectum, vagina, virtuallly every pour in > the > > body can and will secrete fungal poisons. Your still missing the > > point, antibiotics 'suppress symptoms', they do not CURE ANYTHING, > he > > still has the problem, and when he gets off the antibiotics, it can > > come back with a vengeance. > > The best thing you can do is to leave the drs alone, and yet, you > > still have not read my 'eBook' for systemic infections. Parents > > really need to educate themselves to the facts, so that you can > make > > informed decisions about all your loved ones. > > His coughing is due to post nasal drip (more fungi) from his nose, > > dripping down into his throat, then going into his lungs. > > Decongestants, saline wash are useless and so is eucalyptus. You > need > > to go after the CAUSE. Get some Oil of Oreagno (make sure it's > edible > > and has at least a 70% carvacrol rating) put 3 drops under his > tongue, > > 3x a day, followed with lots of water. Also rub some around his > ears, > > under his eyes and around his sinuses above the eyes. This will > not > > only stop the cough, it will destroy the pathogens in the > eustachian > > tubes, causing the sinuse problems, namely candida. > > Russ/CL > > > > > > , " krissy_texas " > > <krissy_texas> wrote: > > > Thanks for the advice everyone! > > > What happened is that my son's daycamp was complaining that he > needed > > > to go to the doctor for his cough. I didn't think so - it > wasn't > > > interrupting his play or sleep- but I didn't want a CPS call > either! > > > So the doctor gave us the prescription and my son heard it all. > I > > > gave it 24 hours to clear up and my son was literally begging > for the > > > antibiotics by then 'cause the doctor had told him he needed to > take > > > them. so he got them. but never again. > > > We're switching doctors- or rather giving up on MD's entirely. > The > > > price of copays these days, it's only a little more to see an > > > alternative doctor. > > > The main problem is that my son is 7 and I couldn't get him to > do the > > > saline wash. And he's convinced that the decongestant doesn't > work--- > > > which earlier on would have kept the " gunk " off his sinuses so > maybe > > > they wouldn't have gotten infected. So I just did the > eucalyptus. > > > which helped some but he still had the cough. > > > His cough was obviously clearing up on its own- it was noticably > > > improved the afternoon after I gave him the antibiotics. I'm > > > thinking it wasn't the antibiotics. He was already on his way > to > > > being better. > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > Krissy > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Linda Bumpas " > > > <lindabumpas@c...> wrote: > > > > Never. About ten years ago I got my first sinus infection. > Took > > > antibiotics. It went away. It came back. More antibiotics, > which > > > didn't work as well. Another sinus infection. More > antibiotics, > > > which didn't work. A different antibiotic. After 4 infections > and 5 > > > antibiotics that year, I'd had enough. Ever since then, I've > had > > > chronic sinus problems (with stuffiness that interferes with > sleep > > > and headaches) that I believe are a result of those > antibiotics. Now > > > when it flares into an infection I get rid of it by breathing > steam > > > with eucalyptus oil, using salt water washes (I add grapefruit > seed > > > extract), spicy foods and herbal teas to decongest and thin the > > > mucus, a homeopathic remedy, caffeine, vitamin C, lots of > garlic, > > > maybe on OTC decongestant. I choose a few from that list; I > don't > > > use them all every time. I DON " T use antibiotics. > > > > > > > > Linda > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > krissy_texas > > > > > > > > Monday, August 09, 2004 9:00 AM > > > > Sinus infections and > antibiotics > > > > > > > > > > > > When do you all think sinus infections need to be treated > with > > > > antibiotics? My son (age 7) had a cough that turned into a > sinus > > > > infection. I'd normally just let it work itself out and > never > > > go to > > > > the doctor- he normally kicks infections quickly. but > schools > > > starts > > > > in a week. And his cough sounds absolutely terrible. He's > a > > > little > > > > stinker for trying anything other than yummy medicine. I'd > > > thought > > > > about just cleaning his sinuses with saline regularly but I > > > imagine > > > > he'll tell me after the first time " just give me the > antibiotics > > > like > > > > the doctor said, mom. " Though the saline wash should > provide him > > > > with immediate relief. > > > > > > > > Thanks- > > > > Krissy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************* > > > > WWW.PEACEFULMIND.COM Sponsors Alternative Answers- > > > > > > > > HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of HOLISTIC HEALTH. > > > Preventative and Curative measure to take for many ailments at: > > > > http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments_frame.htm > > > > __________ > > > > > > > > -To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste > this > > > address in an email to them: > > > > > http://www./members_add > > > > > > > > _________ > > > > To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers > please > > > Go to: > > > > > > > > http://www./links > > > > > > > > ___________ > > > > > > > > Post message: > > > > Subscribe: - > > > > Un: - > > > > > List owner: -owner > > > > _______ > > > > Shortcut URL to this page: > > > > http://www. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 Does Pau D'Arco tea have to be boiled to work? Or can it just be steeped? Or do you take it another way? Linda - oh mama Saturday, August 14, 2004 10:03 AM Re: Sinus infections and antibiotics Fungal infections respond if you take the herb PauDarco, which is an antifungal herb? When I get sinusinfections, I take it and it gets rid of the problemand doesn't upset anything else in my body...MamaKrissy, It certainly IS the antibiotics, as thesedrugs will only exacerbate his existing condition,destroying the good flora in his gut, thus, causingmore of a systemic candida infection, which thesefungi end up in the sinuses. Understand that candidais 'systemic', traveling around in the blood/lymph,infecting all the organs, and it can come out theeyes, ears, nose, rectum, vagina, virtuallly everypour in the body can and will secrete fungal poisons. Your still missing the point, antibiotics 'suppresssymptoms', they do not CURE ANYTHING, he still has theproblem, and when he gets off the antibiotics, it cancome back with a vengeance. The best thing you can dois to leave the drs alone, and yet, you still have notread my 'eBook' for systemic infections. Parentsreally need to educate themselves to the facts, sothat you can make informed decisions about all yourloved ones. His coughing is due to post nasal drip(more fungi) from his nose, dripping down into histhroat, then going into his lungs. Decongestants,saline wash are useless and so is eucalyptus. Youneed to go after the CAUSE. Get some Oil of Oreagno(make sure it's edible and has at least a 70%carvacrol rating) put 3 drops under his tongue, 3x a day, followed with lots of water. Also rub somearound his ears, under his eyes and around his sinusesabove the eyes. This will not only stop the cough, itwill destroy the pathogens in the eustachian tubes,causing the sinuse problems, namely candida. Russ/CL ********************************************* WWW.PEACEFULMIND.COM Sponsors Alternative Answers-HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of HOLISTIC HEALTH. Preventative and Curative measure to take for many ailments at:http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments_frame.htm__________-To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this address in an email to them:http://www./members_add _________To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: http://www./links___________Community email addresses: Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner _______Shortcut URL to this page: http://www. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 Stephen, Beg to differ with you, and having cured thousands of people with candida infestations, there is more to it then bringing the pH balance back. When the 'bad flora' takes over it must be destroyed 'systemically', meaning throughout the blood/lymph first, then the pH can be restored. Bear in mind that " yeasts " are really not the problem. The human body always has 'good flora' and 'bad flora', we need to have a proper balance of both for digestion. But when the 'bad flora' takes over and the 'good flora' is gone, the body will not assimulate any kind of nutrients, because the cells are extreamly toxic. Another significant problem with fungi is the 'mycotoxins' they secrete. The candida species alone have nearly 100 distinctly different powerful toxins (poisons) that have a specific impact on the human body. Some attack the nervous tissue, some attack muscle, others attack connective tissues such as bone and joint tissue. Therefore, symptoms may very dramatically depending upon the toxin produced, the target organ affected and the integrity of our own immune systems. This is why for years I have argued with drs, misdiagnosing 'fibromyalgia', when in fact it is caused by fungal infestations. Systemic candida is nothing more than a " Lifestyle disease " , it can be cured, corrected, simply by changing some bad habits. But the bottom line is once you have it, the bad flora must be destroyed first, then repopulated with 'good flora', this is why our candida protocols work so well. Its an education and a understanding that if you want good health, then CHANGE is the key factor as explained in my eBook. Russ/CL http://www.naturalhealingsolutions.com , " DrSABrown " <DrSABrown@a...> wrote: > Dear Linda, > > Candida always indicates that there is systemic acidosis in the body. What I > am saying is that one who experiences this is best advised to examine the pH > balance within their body. Contrary to the theories of Louis Pasteur which > literally side tracked the whole of medicine, pleomorphism indicates that ph > imbalance creates a perfect environment for the transmutation of the life > factors within the red blood cells into bacteria, virus, yeast and fungus > and finally mold. Thus, contrary to allopathic medicine, one doesn't fight > candida or even get rid of it. One merely introduces ph Balance and reverses > the process by which the life factor within the red blood cells transmutated > into candida and thus replaces the candida with red blood cells. > > I would suggest reading ph Balance by Robert and Shelley Young and visiting > my web site www.innerlightinc.net/drsabrown > > Much Love in Spirit, > > Stephen > > > Linda Bumpas [lindabumpas@c...] > Saturday, August 14, 2004 12:34 AM > > Re: Re: Sinus infections and antibiotics > > > How would you get rid of candida in the rest of the body? > > Where is your ebook? > > Linda > > > - > russnhs > > Friday, August 13, 2004 9:53 AM > Re: Sinus infections and antibiotics > > > Krissy, > It certainly IS the antibiotics, as these drugs will only exacerbate > his existing condition, destroying the good flora in his gut, thus, > causing more of a systemic candida infection, which these fungi end up > in the sinuses. Understand that candida is 'systemic', traveling > around in the blood/lymph, infecting all the organs, and it can come > out the eyes, ears, nose, rectum, vagina, virtuallly every pour in the > body can and will secrete fungal poisons. Your still missing the > point, antibiotics 'suppress symptoms', they do not CURE ANYTHING, he > still has the problem, and when he gets off the antibiotics, it can > come back with a vengeance. > The best thing you can do is to leave the drs alone, and yet, you > still have not read my 'eBook' for systemic infections. Parents > really need to educate themselves to the facts, so that you can make > informed decisions about all your loved ones. > His coughing is due to post nasal drip (more fungi) from his nose, > dripping down into his throat, then going into his lungs. > Decongestants, saline wash are useless and so is eucalyptus. You need > to go after the CAUSE. Get some Oil of Oreagno (make sure it's edible > and has at least a 70% carvacrol rating) put 3 drops under his tongue, > 3x a day, followed with lots of water. Also rub some around his ears, > under his eyes and around his sinuses above the eyes. This will not > only stop the cough, it will destroy the pathogens in the eustachian > tubes, causing the sinuse problems, namely candida. > Russ/CL > > > , " krissy_texas " > <krissy_texas> wrote: > > Thanks for the advice everyone! > > What happened is that my son's daycamp was complaining that he needed > > to go to the doctor for his cough. I didn't think so - it wasn't > > interrupting his play or sleep- but I didn't want a CPS call either! > > So the doctor gave us the prescription and my son heard it all. I > > gave it 24 hours to clear up and my son was literally begging for the > > antibiotics by then 'cause the doctor had told him he needed to take > > them. so he got them. but never again. > > We're switching doctors- or rather giving up on MD's entirely. The > > price of copays these days, it's only a little more to see an > > alternative doctor. > > The main problem is that my son is 7 and I couldn't get him to do the > > saline wash. And he's convinced that the decongestant doesn't work--- > > which earlier on would have kept the " gunk " off his sinuses so maybe > > they wouldn't have gotten infected. So I just did the eucalyptus. > > which helped some but he still had the cough. > > His cough was obviously clearing up on its own- it was noticably > > improved the afternoon after I gave him the antibiotics. I'm > > thinking it wasn't the antibiotics. He was already on his way to > > being better. > > > > thanks, > > > > Krissy > > > > > > > > , " Linda Bumpas " > > <lindabumpas@c...> wrote: > > > Never. About ten years ago I got my first sinus infection. Took > > antibiotics. It went away. It came back. More antibiotics, which > > didn't work as well. Another sinus infection. More antibiotics, > > which didn't work. A different antibiotic. After 4 infections and 5 > > antibiotics that year, I'd had enough. Ever since then, I've had > > chronic sinus problems (with stuffiness that interferes with sleep > > and headaches) that I believe are a result of those antibiotics. Now > > when it flares into an infection I get rid of it by breathing steam > > with eucalyptus oil, using salt water washes (I add grapefruit seed > > extract), spicy foods and herbal teas to decongest and thin the > > mucus, a homeopathic remedy, caffeine, vitamin C, lots of garlic, > > maybe on OTC decongestant. I choose a few from that list; I don't > > use them all every time. I DON " T use antibiotics. > > > > > > Linda > > > > > > > > > - > > > krissy_texas > > > > > > Monday, August 09, 2004 9:00 AM > > > Sinus infections and antibiotics > > > > > > > > > When do you all think sinus infections need to be treated with > > > antibiotics? My son (age 7) had a cough that turned into a sinus > > > infection. I'd normally just let it work itself out and never > > go to > > > the doctor- he normally kicks infections quickly. but schools > > starts > > > in a week. And his cough sounds absolutely terrible. He's a > > little > > > stinker for trying anything other than yummy medicine. I'd > > thought > > > about just cleaning his sinuses with saline regularly but I > > imagine > > > he'll tell me after the first time " just give me the antibiotics > > like > > > the doctor said, mom. " Though the saline wash should provide him > > > with immediate relief. > > > > > > Thanks- > > > Krissy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************* > > > WWW.PEACEFULMIND.COM Sponsors Alternative Answers- > > > > > > HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of HOLISTIC HEALTH. > > Preventative and Curative measure to take for many ailments at: > > > http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments_frame.htm > > > __________ > > > > > > -To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this > > address in an email to them: > > > http://www./members_add > > > > > > _________ > > > To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please > > Go to: > > > > > > http://www./links > > > > > > ___________ > > > > > > Post message: > > > Subscribe: - > > > Un: - > > > List owner: -owner > > > _______ > > > Shortcut URL to this page: > > > http://www. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 I don't think that anyone here would dispute the value of antibiotics in situations such as septicemia. The truth of the matter is though that antibiotics are given routinely by vast majority of MD's,DO,s,physician assistant,nurse practioneers and the like for the simple reason of ignorance of alternative treatments. I seriously doubt that I will get you to admit there is any ignorance in the allopathic community. Just this past week I saw a 51 yo man die because of misuse of antibiotics and a 22 yo indian woman rendered sterile for the same reason.I am not,at this moment going to explain the pathophysiolgy of either case,but you can bet these cases are just the tip of the iceberg. The root cause of the onset of most sinus problems are allergys. Dr John D. Son NMD. , saba2r@a... wrote: > I believe the root cause of the sinus problems must be found. It's not a simple A B C for everyone. The word " infection " was brought up initially, which is why I posted that antibiotics indeed might be in order in some cases. We could go back and forth all day with stories - antibiotics are " bad " , but just as the lady posted about her daughter damaged by vaccines, I can tell you that my husband would be dead if it were not for antibiotics, due to a massive septicemia. I think we should avoid the this is good and that is bad, etc. stuff. Herbs and natural remedies can be " bad " if misused. The word " infection " should not be used to describe all sinus problems. Some people may in fact be suffering from allergies. And so on. Everyone needs to determine what works for their particular problem. > > Becca > > In a message dated 8/15/2004 10:21:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, " johndson2600 " <johndson2600> writes: > > > > > I am an intergrative medical school educated physician who > >specializes in Chelation and other IV therapies.In regard to sinus > >infection the best treatment is that as described in post #10107. > > Of course,methods used to rebuild the immune system-such as IV > >administration of vitamins,minerals and amion acids-as well as PO use > >of herbs- are vitally important to living a long and disease free > >life.Another thing that should be mentioned is gluten intolerance.I > >would estimate that maybe at the most 5-10 % of people who have a > >sensitivity to gluten are aware of it.Avoidance of gluten-which is > >very difficult to do-is sometimes the first and biggest step to > >rebuilding your immune system.Another important step-getting rid of > >parasites-is important.Every dog,cat,and cow in the world has > >parasites.Why would anyone think that humans are different in terms > >of biology.Don't trust your allopath and his lab to diagnose the > >situation either. > > Sincerely,Dr John D. Son NMD > > , gkbmusic@a... wrote: > >> Try an Intergrative MD They are amazing! Find someone who uses IV > >Therapy to > >> rebuild the system with vitamins & supplements .. > >> I am having amazing results! > >> > >> and I have had awful doc experiences my entire life .. I am now > >42 . . > >> wishing love & prayers. . > >> gkb > > > > > > > > > > > >********************************************* > >WWW.PEACEFULMIND.COM Sponsors Alternative Answers- > > > >HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of HOLISTIC HEALTH. Preventative and Curative measure to take for many ailments at: > >http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments_frame.htm > >__________ > > > >-To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this address in an email to them: > >http://www./members_add > > > >_________ > >To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: > > > >http://www./links > > > >___________ > > > > Post message: > > Subscribe: - > > Un: - > > List owner: -owner > >_______ > >Shortcut URL to this page: > > http://www. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 Dear Russ, A great book to read on this is "The pH Miracle" by Robert and Shelley Young. Their new approach is called The New Biology. It is a completely different lens through which to view this. One does not destroy that which is a transmutation but rather reverses the process through alkalinizing the system. The lens one uses to view this will determine his approach as well as his results. Much Love in Spirit, Stephen russnhs [ccruss]Tuesday, August 17, 2004 10:43 AM Subject: Re: Sinus infections and antibioticsStephen,Beg to differ with you, and having cured thousands of people withcandida infestations, there is more to it then bringing the pH balanceback. When the 'bad flora' takes over it must be destroyed'systemically', meaning throughout the blood/lymph first, then the pHcan be restored. Bear in mind that "yeasts" are really not the problem. The human bodyalways has 'good flora' and 'bad flora', we need to have a properbalance of both for digestion. But when the 'bad flora' takes overand the 'good flora' is gone, the body will not assimulate any kind ofnutrients, because the cells are extreamly toxic. Another significantproblem with fungi is the 'mycotoxins' they secrete. The candidaspecies alone have nearly 100 distinctly different powerful toxins(poisons) that have a specific impact on the human body. Some attackthe nervous tissue, some attack muscle, others attack connectivetissues such as bone and joint tissue. Therefore, symptoms may verydramatically depending upon the toxin produced, the target organaffected and the integrity of our own immune systems. This is why foryears I have argued with drs, misdiagnosing 'fibromyalgia', when infact it is caused by fungal infestations.Systemic candida is nothing more than a "Lifestyle disease", it can becured, corrected, simply by changing some bad habits.But the bottom line is once you have it, the bad flora must bedestroyed first, then repopulated with 'good flora', this is why ourcandida protocols work so well. Its an education and a understandingthat if you want good health, then CHANGE is the key factor asexplained in my eBook.Russ/CLhttp://www.naturalhealingsolutions.com , "DrSABrown"<DrSABrown@a...> wrote:> Dear Linda,> > Candida always indicates that there is systemic acidosis in thebody. What I> am saying is that one who experiences this is best advised toexamine the pH> balance within their body. Contrary to the theories of Louis Pasteurwhich> literally side tracked the whole of medicine, pleomorphism indicatesthat ph> imbalance creates a perfect environment for the transmutation of thelife> factors within the red blood cells into bacteria, virus, yeast andfungus> and finally mold. Thus, contrary to allopathic medicine, onedoesn't fight> candida or even get rid of it. One merely introduces ph Balance andreverses> the process by which the life factor within the red blood cellstransmutated> into candida and thus replaces the candida with red blood cells.> > I would suggest reading ph Balance by Robert and Shelley Young andvisiting> my web site www.innerlightinc.net/drsabrown> > Much Love in Spirit,> > Stephen> > > Linda Bumpas [lindabumpas@c...]> Saturday, August 14, 2004 12:34 AM> > Re: Re: Sinus infections and antibiotics> > > How would you get rid of candida in the rest of the body?> > Where is your ebook?> > Linda> > > -> russnhs> > Friday, August 13, 2004 9:53 AM> Re: Sinus infections and antibiotics> > > Krissy,> It certainly IS the antibiotics, as these drugs will only exacerbate> his existing condition, destroying the good flora in his gut, thus,> causing more of a systemic candida infection, which these fungiend up> in the sinuses. Understand that candida is 'systemic', traveling> around in the blood/lymph, infecting all the organs, and it cancome> out the eyes, ears, nose, rectum, vagina, virtuallly every pourin the> body can and will secrete fungal poisons. Your still missing the> point, antibiotics 'suppress symptoms', they do not CUREANYTHING, he> still has the problem, and when he gets off the antibiotics, it can> come back with a vengeance.> The best thing you can do is to leave the drs alone, and yet, you> still have not read my 'eBook' for systemic infections. Parents> really need to educate themselves to the facts, so that you can make> informed decisions about all your loved ones.> His coughing is due to post nasal drip (more fungi) from his nose,> dripping down into his throat, then going into his lungs.> Decongestants, saline wash are useless and so is eucalyptus. You need> to go after the CAUSE. Get some Oil of Oreagno (make sure it'sedible> and has at least a 70% carvacrol rating) put 3 drops under histongue,> 3x a day, followed with lots of water. Also rub some around hisears,> under his eyes and around his sinuses above the eyes. This will not> only stop the cough, it will destroy the pathogens in the eustachian> tubes, causing the sinuse problems, namely candida.> Russ/CL> > > , "krissy_texas"> <krissy_texas> wrote:> > Thanks for the advice everyone!> > What happened is that my son's daycamp was complaining that heneeded> > to go to the doctor for his cough. I didn't think so - it wasn't> > interrupting his play or sleep- but I didn't want a CPS calleither!> > So the doctor gave us the prescription and my son heard it all. I> > gave it 24 hours to clear up and my son was literally beggingfor the> > antibiotics by then 'cause the doctor had told him he neededto take> > them. so he got them. but never again.> > We're switching doctors- or rather giving up on MD's entirely.The> > price of copays these days, it's only a little more to see an> > alternative doctor.> > The main problem is that my son is 7 and I couldn't get him todo the> > saline wash. And he's convinced that the decongestant doesn'twork---> > which earlier on would have kept the "gunk" off his sinuses somaybe> > they wouldn't have gotten infected. So I just did the eucalyptus.> > which helped some but he still had the cough.> > His cough was obviously clearing up on its own- it was noticably> > improved the afternoon after I gave him the antibiotics. I'm> > thinking it wasn't the antibiotics. He was already on his way to> > being better.> >> > thanks,> >> > Krissy> >> >> >> > , "Linda Bumpas"> > <lindabumpas@c...> wrote:> > > Never. About ten years ago I got my first sinus infection.Took> > antibiotics. It went away. It came back. More antibiotics, which> > didn't work as well. Another sinus infection. More antibiotics,> > which didn't work. A different antibiotic. After 4infections and 5> > antibiotics that year, I'd had enough. Ever since then, I've had> > chronic sinus problems (with stuffiness that interferes with sleep> > and headaches) that I believe are a result of thoseantibiotics. Now> > when it flares into an infection I get rid of it by breathingsteam> > with eucalyptus oil, using salt water washes (I add grapefruitseed> > extract), spicy foods and herbal teas to decongest and thin the> > mucus, a homeopathic remedy, caffeine, vitamin C, lots of garlic,> > maybe on OTC decongestant. I choose a few from that list; I don't> > use them all every time. I DON"T use antibiotics.> > >> > > Linda> > >> > >> > > -> > > krissy_texas> > > > > > Monday, August 09, 2004 9:00 AM> > > Sinus infections and antibiotics> > >> > >> > > When do you all think sinus infections need to be treated with> > > antibiotics? My son (age 7) had a cough that turned intoa sinus> > > infection. I'd normally just let it work itself out andnever> > go to> > > the doctor- he normally kicks infections quickly. but schools> > starts> > > in a week. And his cough sounds absolutely terrible. He's a> > little> > > stinker for trying anything other than yummy medicine. I'd> > thought> > > about just cleaning his sinuses with saline regularly but I> > imagine> > > he'll tell me after the first time "just give me theantibiotics> > like> > > the doctor said, mom." Though the saline wash shouldprovide him> > > with immediate relief.> > >> > > Thanks-> > > Krissy> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > *********************************************> > > WWW.PEACEFULMIND.COM Sponsors Alternative Answers-> > >> > > HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of HOLISTIC HEALTH.> > Preventative and Curative measure to take for many ailments at:> > > http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments_frame.htm> > > __________> > >> > > -To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy andpaste this> > address in an email to them:> > > http://www./members_add> > >> > > _________> > > To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answersplease> > Go to:> > >> > > http://www./links> > >> > > ___________> > > > > > Post message: > > > Subscribe: - > > > Un: - > > > List owner: -owner > > > _______> > > Shortcut URL to this page:> > > http://www.> > >> > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 I'm not intending to argue about this, but what bugged me was the either/or mentality from some posters. All doctors bad - only alternative medicine good. That is a dangerous opinion and it's scary to think a person who needs medical attention would turn away from it because they listened to that. Nowhere have I stated that I don't understand the dangers of antibiotics. There is that either/or thing again. One of my points was that understanding the problems they have caused does not rule them out in situations where they are warranted. I can tell you this - the problem is not that doctors are " in bed with " pharmaceutical companies, as Russ states on his site, or that they wish to keep people sick so they can make more money. Most physicians are extremely intelligent. If all they wanted was money, they could make ten times as much in the corporate world. I do agree that pharm companies are in it for money - they are businesses. So let's dispense with the evil doctor horror scenarios. Why would you feel I wouldn't " admit " ignorance? That is an obnoxious statement. Many physicians are open to learning more about alternative treatments. They also must constantly fight off the ignorant *patients*, who demand medications/treatments they don't need. Let's keep in mind that a lot of folks here are pushing products because THEY are attempting to make money and sell stuff. Let's not be hypocrites. I'm here because I firmly believe in a return to natural remedies. (However, thank God for modern medicine in a lot of situations). I think everyone should share what works for them. I've been a little dismayed by the " No, that doesn't work " , " Yes it worked for me " , " My stuff is the only thing that works " , etc etc. A little hard to sort out. We are supposed to have " Peaceful Minds " . Becca In a message dated 8/19/2004 9:06:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, " johndson2600 " <johndson2600 writes: > I don't think that anyone here would dispute the value of >antibiotics in situations such as septicemia. > The truth of the matter is though that antibiotics are given >routinely by vast majority of MD's,DO,s,physician assistant,nurse >practioneers and the like for the simple reason of ignorance of >alternative treatments. > I seriously doubt that I will get you to admit there is any >ignorance in the allopathic community. > Just this past week I saw a 51 yo man die because of misuse of >antibiotics and a 22 yo indian woman rendered sterile for the same >reason.I am not,at this moment going to explain the pathophysiolgy of >either case,but you can bet these cases are just the tip of the >iceberg. > The root cause of the onset of most sinus problems are allergys. > Dr John D. Son NMD. > , saba2r@a... wrote: >> I believe the root cause of the sinus problems must be found. It's >not a simple A B C for everyone. The word " infection " was brought up >initially, which is why I posted that antibiotics indeed might be in >order in some cases. We could go back and forth all day with >stories - antibiotics are " bad " , but just as the lady posted about >her daughter damaged by vaccines, I can tell you that my husband >would be dead if it were not for antibiotics, due to a massive >septicemia. I think we should avoid the this is good and that is >bad, etc. stuff. Herbs and natural remedies can be " bad " if >misused. The word " infection " should not be used to describe all >sinus problems. Some people may in fact be suffering from >allergies. And so on. Everyone needs to determine what works for >their particular problem. >> >> Becca >> >> In a message dated 8/15/2004 10:21:41 AM Eastern Daylight >Time, " johndson2600 " <johndson2600> writes: >> >> > >> > I am an intergrative medical school educated physician who >> >specializes in Chelation and other IV therapies.In regard to sinus >> >infection the best treatment is that as described in post #10107. >> > Of course,methods used to rebuild the immune system-such as IV >> >administration of vitamins,minerals and amion acids-as well as PO >use >> >of herbs- are vitally important to living a long and disease free >> >life.Another thing that should be mentioned is gluten >intolerance.I >> >would estimate that maybe at the most 5-10 % of people who have a >> >sensitivity to gluten are aware of it.Avoidance of gluten-which is >> >very difficult to do-is sometimes the first and biggest step to >> >rebuilding your immune system.Another important step-getting rid >of >> >parasites-is important.Every dog,cat,and cow in the world has >> >parasites.Why would anyone think that humans are different in >terms >> >of biology.Don't trust your allopath and his lab to diagnose the >> >situation either. >> > Sincerely,Dr John D. Son NMD >> > , gkbmusic@a... wrote: >> >> Try an Intergrative MD They are amazing! Find someone who uses >IV >> >Therapy to >> >> rebuild the system with vitamins & supplements .. >> >> I am having amazing results! >> >> >> >> and I have had awful doc experiences my entire life .. I am >now >> >42 . . >> >> wishing love & prayers. . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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