Introduction

[Guest guest]

Selket-

 

Welcome! Howdy! Make yourself at home.

 

>Hello all, I don't know, maybe my question was over looked or maybe

>not answered because I haven't properly introduced myself.

 

Nah, we are not so formal. I assume when it comes to computer stuff someone

else will advise you. Personal I never use Outlook Express, because most

viruses are written for that. I don't get the digest version so I am not

qualified

for that, but never meant to snub ya.

 

>I'll do so now.

 

Glad ya did.

 

>My name is Selket

 

kewl name, is there a story that goes with it? Culture? Family history?

 

>and I joined this group about a week or two ago to

>learn about oils and eo's.

 

Well, hold on to your seat, we talk about that and much more.

 

>My interest is personal for use in hair

>and skin care products.

 

You are in good company. There are some great people on this list.

 

> Generally, I'm not much of a poster other

>than in the event that I need more information.

 

Oh don't be shy, we love opinions, ideas and thoughts.

 

>This is a great group

>and so far I haven't needed any clarification.

 

There are some sharp young folks in this list and then some

old fogies like me, who remember when we had good ideas. Ha!

 

>In my first post I asked about the virus that was going around and

>wanted to know if it was possible to get one from the characters that

>came through in my digest from this group or would I have had to open

>an attachment in order for it to cause problems?

 

Others have addressed this, me I just say, have a cup of tea, warm yourself

by the fire, tell us about yourself, be among friends and welcome.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sandy, thanks for the advice.

 

I have NAV already installed on my computer, just didn't know exactly

how it worked. Every so often it asks if I want to update and I'd

just click no. I won't be doing that anymore.

 

Selket

 

, Sandy Fields <diamonique@e...> wrote:

> At 07:57 PM 02/01/02, selketqt wrote:

>

> >In my first post I asked about the virus that was going around and

> >wanted to know if it was possible to get one from the characters

that

> >came through in my digest from this group or would I have had to

open

> >an attachment in order for it to cause problems?

>

> Usually you have to open the attachment. Clicking on it is what

executes

> the virus. These buggers are usually set up to replicate

themselves

> through Microsoft Outlook; so if you're not using that email

client, at

> least you won't be sending the virus out to everyone in your

address book.

>

> Get yourself some good anti-virus software. I keep my Norton

updated, and

> it catches these suckers before they come in.

>

> -- Sandy

[Guest guest]

Hi Deonia, thanks for the welcome and I appreciate the response. I

guess I kinda jumped the gun because while I was writing that

response, my question had already been addressed by Helen.

 

Since you volunteered :-) I do have a couple of questions. Would you

(or anyone here), know of a good resource for purchasing color

applicator bottles? The ones with the little red tops. And when is it

appropriate (safe) to use products with eo's in plastic containers?

 

Selket

 

, BubblesWithStyle@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 02/01/2002 7:58:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> selketqt writes:

>

>

> > In my first post I asked about the virus that was going around

and

> > wanted to know if it was possible to get one from the characters

that

> > came through in my digest from this group or would I have had to

open

> > an attachment in order for it to cause problems?

> >

> > Selket

> >

>

> Sorry Selket, didn't aim to ignore you but i don't know. I'm fairly

new to

> computers so i don't feel qualified to try to answer yu.

> Now if you have a question about something else, maybe i can help

ya. LOL

> Deonia

> PS. Glad to have you in that tub. you'll like it here. D

[Guest guest]

Hi Janet, thanks for the welcome.

 

Well, let's see, Selket is the name of a Scorpion-Goddess. I am a

Scorpio and working on the goddess part, lol. That's it...

 

Selket

 

, Janet Golden <janetkgolden@c...> wrote:

> Selket-

>

> Welcome! Howdy! Make yourself at home.

>

> >Hello all, I don't know, maybe my question was over looked or maybe

> >not answered because I haven't properly introduced myself.

>

> Nah, we are not so formal. I assume when it comes to computer stuff

someone

> else will advise you. Personal I never use Outlook Express, because

most

> viruses are written for that. I don't get the digest version so I

am not

> qualified

> for that, but never meant to snub ya.

>

> >I'll do so now.

>

> Glad ya did.

>

> >My name is Selket

>

> kewl name, is there a story that goes with it? Culture? Family

history?

>

> >and I joined this group about a week or two ago to

> >learn about oils and eo's.

>

> Well, hold on to your seat, we talk about that and much more.

>

> >My interest is personal for use in hair

> >and skin care products.

>

> You are in good company. There are some great people on this list.

>

> > Generally, I'm not much of a poster other

> >than in the event that I need more information.

>

> Oh don't be shy, we love opinions, ideas and thoughts.

>

> >This is a great group

> >and so far I haven't needed any clarification.

>

> There are some sharp young folks in this list and then some

> old fogies like me, who remember when we had good ideas. Ha!

>

> >In my first post I asked about the virus that was going around and

> >wanted to know if it was possible to get one from the characters

that

> >came through in my digest from this group or would I have had to

open

> >an attachment in order for it to cause problems?

>

> Others have addressed this, me I just say, have a cup of tea, warm

yourself

> by the fire, tell us about yourself, be among friends and welcome.

> >

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 02/03/2002 2:00:11 AM Eastern Standard Time,

selketqt writes:

 

 

> Since you volunteered :-) I do have a couple of questions. Would you

> (or anyone here), know of a good resource for purchasing color

> applicator bottles? The ones with the little red tops. And when is it

> appropriate (safe) to use products with eo's in plastic containers?

>

>

 

selket, Just 'cause I volunteered don't mean I know what I'lm talking 'bout!

LOL Really Honey, just teasing a bit. Can't help ya with tha bottles but I

do know that all EO's should be stored in brown ( or dark colored) glass

bottles with tops as heat and light will ruin them eventually. I even keep my

dark bottles in a closet for optimal coolness and darkness. My rule of thimb

is, when working with straight essential oils i, is never to use plastic of

any kind. Only glass or SS. And never leave the dropper applicator in the

bottle either as the " fumes " will deteriorate the rubber cap and adulterate

the EO. There are jusst so many ways to ruin eo's that you can't be too

carefull when handling them.

I know there are more qualified people on this list that will give you more

info than I can but those are the important things to me . HTH's, Deonia '-)

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Well D, if you don't know, then you are doing a good job of fooling

me ;-)

 

I found out the hard way about putting eo mixtures in plastic. I

mixed up a " hair spritz " (jojoba, wheatgerm and pink grapefruit) and

everyday I would see a residue at the bottom of the bottle. I

eventually figured out that it was the plastic dissolving.

 

Thanks for the info.

 

Selket

 

, BubblesWithStyle@a... wrote:

> selket, Just 'cause I volunteered don't mean I know what I'lm

talking 'bout!

> LOL Really Honey, just teasing a bit. Can't help ya with tha

bottles but I

> do know that all EO's should be stored in brown ( or dark colored)

glass

> bottles with tops as heat and light will ruin them eventually. I

even keep my

> dark bottles in a closet for optimal coolness and darkness. My rule

of thimb

> is, when working with straight essential oils i, is never to use

plastic of

> any kind. Only glass or SS. And never leave the dropper applicator

in the

> bottle either as the " fumes " will deteriorate the rubber cap and

adulterate

> the EO. There are jusst so many ways to ruin eo's that you can't be

too

> carefull when handling them.

> I know there are more qualified people on this list that will give

you more

> info than I can but those are the important things to me . HTH's,

Deonia '-)

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 02/03/2002 3:33:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,

selketqt writes:

 

 

> if you don't know, then you are doing a good job of fooling

> me ;-)

>

 

LOL, I just am one of those people who, as soon as they learn one thing,

wants to learn something else. I soak up information like a sponge! Of

course, here lately, I'v been putting a lot of info in " my favorite places "

just to make sure that, in my ole age, I don't forget it! Ha Ha, Yours and

His, Deonia

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hello, I thought I should introduce myself, since I just signed up for your group today. My name is Janet and I am married with 3 little children. Joey is 7, Ben 5 and Alyssa 4. Both my boys are autistic. I have always been interested in natural medicine and health. I am inspired by my children to work harder and learn as much as I can everyday. One day I hope to become a master herbalist. I would be happy to answer any questions you have about me or my family, and look forward to learning and growing with you all.

 

Janet

 

Do what you can, with what you have, where you are.

 

-Theodore Roosevelt

[Guest guest]

Welcome Janet. I have an 11 yr old son with autism. He's low functioning and non verbal and has come a long way in the past year that I've been on this group.

 

Ann in Memphis

 

 

 

 

 

Hello, I thought I should introduce myself, since I just signed up for your group today. My name is Janet and I am married with 3 little children. Joey is 7, Ben 5 and Alyssa 4. Both my boys are autistic. I have always been interested in natural medicine and health. I am inspired by my children to work harder and learn as much as I can everyday. One day I hope to become a master herbalist. I would be happy to answer any questions you have about me or my family, and look forward to learning and growing with you all.

 

Janet

[Guest guest]

Thank you Ann. Benjamin is low functioning and was non-verbal. He told me "I love you mommy" very clearly 2 weeks ago, and I stood there with my mouth hanging open and told him I know you do - LOL! For once mommy was just about speechless :-)

 

Janet

 

Do what you can, with what you have, where you are.

 

-Theodore Roosevelt

 

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Tohelpwilliam

herbal remedies

Friday, July 26, 2002 8:28 PM

Re: [herbal remedies] RE: Introduction

Welcome Janet. I have an 11 yr old son with autism. He's low functioning and non verbal and has come a long way in the past year that I've been on this group.Ann in Memphis

Hello, I thought I should introduce myself, since I just signed up for your group today. My name is Janet and I am married with 3 little children. Joey is 7, Ben 5 and Alyssa 4. Both my boys are autistic. I have always been interested in natural medicine and health. I am inspired by my children to work harder and learn as much as I can everyday. One day I hope to become a master herbalist. I would be happy to answer any questions you have about me or my family, and look forward to learning and growing with you all.JanetFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

check out http://www.larryshouse.com

I heard about these guys having great success but it took me a while to

find the address again.

Maureen Sullivan

Port Angeles, WA

 

> Dragonhealer wrote:

>

> Hello, I thought I should introduce myself, since I just signed up for

> your group today. My name is Janet and I am married with 3 little

> children. Joey is 7, Ben 5 and Alyssa 4. Both my boys are autistic. I

> have always been interested in natural medicine and health. I am

> inspired by my children to work harder and learn as much as I can

> everyday. One day I hope to become a master herbalist. I would be

> happy to answer any questions you have about me or my family, and look

> forward to learning and growing with you all.

>

> Janet

>

> Do what you can, with what you have, where you are.

>

> -Theodore Roosevelt

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry, I was trying to send this about helping children with Autism. I

had been looking for it so long and thinking about it I didn't realize

it might not communicate how I sent it. It's not an ad, it's just

people that have success and might be able to help you help your kids.

Maureen

 

Maureen Sullivan wrote:

>

> check out http://www.larryshouse.com

> I heard about these guys having great success but it took me a while to

> find the address again.

> Maureen Sullivan

> Port Angeles, WA

>

> > Dragonhealer wrote:

> >

> > Hello, I thought I should introduce myself, since I just signed up for

> > your group today. My name is Janet and I am married with 3 little

> > children. Joey is 7, Ben 5 and Alyssa 4. Both my boys are autistic. I

> > have always been interested in natural medicine and health. I am

> > inspired by my children to work harder and learn as much as I can

> > everyday. One day I hope to become a master herbalist. I would be

> > happy to answer any questions you have about me or my family, and look

> > forward to learning and growing with you all.

> >

> > Janet

> >

> > Do what you can, with what you have, where you are.

> >

> > -Theodore Roosevelt

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Welcome Richard.

 

Sounds like you need a thorough body cleanse!

 

Why not go through our files - there's lots of good information in there, including a full body cleanse.

 

Lisa

 

-

Richard Lee Holbert

herbal remedies

Tuesday, January 14, 2003 5:55 AM

[herbal remedies] Introduction

I just wanted to introduce myself. My name is Richard Lee Holbert and I am a 50 year oldmale who lives in a bedroom community of the Dallas / Fort Worth Metroplex. I am a Type 2Diabetic, have had 2 strokes and a heart attack and I am on Zoloft for depression and I alsotake a script to help me sleep at night. I used to be way overweight but have lost almost 250pounds in the last 4 years by just changing how I do things. I am suffering from an acute caseof Varicose Veins (very painful and swelling) on my lower right leg. Have had them strippedalready once. I also have Gastroparesis related to my Diabetes and other things also related tomy Diabetes. Anyway enough about me. If anyone has any questions please feel free to ask as Iam a very open person and will discuss anything.-- Richard Lee Holbert '85 North Richland Hills, Texas oldag85tx ICQ # 39883849 Messenger rlholbert Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

Im from B.C. and doing my shiatsu program here in the lower main-

land. My herbalism is through Australia tho So I get a trip to

Aussie-land for a year out of it too.

 

I am really happy at where I am. Just stressed to the max alot

though. My program this year is about 1200 hours of in classroom and

a few other things, but then I also have student clinic etc, plus my

B.As. work on top of it. (Too top it all off, I have IBS which I am

working alot with right now. I am seeing a pretty good D.TCM, which

seems to be working out though).

 

You studied here in Canada but you are now in the US?

 

Take care,

Eric

 

 

" k9_obsession <k9obsession@h...> " <k9obsession@h...> wrote:

> Eric,

>

> I'm a little jealous. If I could do it all over again I'd be

> doing what you are doing now. What part of Canada are you from?

I

> studied Kung Fu / Chi-Quong / herbalism in Kingston, Ontario.

>

> Dave S.

[Guest guest]

Hi Eric,

 

I have been having a few problems with IBS myself but it has improved the last few months. What a busy schedule you have! I would have more than ibs with that kind of agenda. I have sent the article on IBS in case you weren't here when I sent it last.

 

Cheers, Marilyn

 

I.B.S. - IRRITABLE BOWEL SYNDROME

I.B.S. affects more than 80 million Americans, mostly women between 25-45 years old. Symptoms include alternating constipation and diarrhea, abdominal pain and pressure, and gas. I.B.S. is linked to factors like food sensitivities, PMS or stress. Grains rich in gluten (a gelatinous protein), like wheat, rye, barley and oats, are common culprits. Left untreated, I.B.S. can cause more serious problems later — including colon cancer, which claimed the lives of 46,600 people in 1997. Colon cancer is clearly linked to a high fat, low fiber diet with few fresh fruits and vegetables. Early symptoms include altered bowel habits, blood in the stool or rectal bleeding. If your digestive health has gone awry, don't ignore it! In severe cases, ulcerous lesions line the sides of the colon (ulcerativecolitis). Natural therapies are effective and reduce the need for drugs. Many sufferers see dramatic results. Diet changes are a must. Healing herbs and supplements will not work without diet changes. If there is an appendicitis-like sharp pain, seek medical help immediately. Symptoms include weakness, lethargy and fatigue, abdominal cramps, distention and pain (relieved by bowel movements), recurrent constipation, usually alternating with bloody diarrhea, rectal hemorrhoids, fistulas and abcesses, mucous in the stool, dehydration and mineral loss, unhealthy weight loss with abdominal distention.

 

Natural Healing Tips For I.B.S.

Clean up your diet: Avoid nuts, seeds, dairy and citrus while healing. Cut back on saturated fat as much as possible. Eliminate refined sugars, sorbitol, wheat foods and spicy foods. Cut out gluten grains like wheat, rye, barley and oats. Try instead breads or cereals made from spelt, rice,amaranth and quinoa, which are available at health food stores.

Add super foods to your diet daily. Try Crystal Star CHO-LO FIBER TONE drink at bedtime for 2 weeks.

 

Switch to green or black tea. Coffee aggravates I.B.S. symptoms!

 

Eat small meals frequently - NO LARGE MEALS.

 

Try dairy-free acidophilus. Dairy products are clogging and hard to digest. Try Dr. Dophilus

 

Aloe vera juice before meals helps heal the colon, reduces inflammation, and promotes regular bowel movements, especially if there is chronic constipation. I like AloeLife’s aloe gold, 2 tsp. with meals.

 

Clinical studies show peppermint can reduce I.B.S. symptoms. In one study of 18 patients, 16 reported feeling significantly better taking a peppermint oil supplement. Peppermint has long been a folk remedy for gas, a common problem in I.B.S. sufferers. I find peppermint herb, rich involatile oils, is as effective as peppermint oil. I recommend a broad spectrum herbal combination with peppermint and anti-inflammatory herbs like slippery elm and wild yam. Consider Crystal Star's BLW-TONE™ caps, 2 caps, 3 times daily. Also, chewing on mint leaves after meals will relax bowel spasms.

 

Add a psyllium-free fiber rich herbal combination to stimulate your colon. This will help push waste through the colon as well as recondition it. AloeLife's fiber mate is a good choice.

 

Effective anti-spasmodics are Crystal Star RELAX CAPS. Helpful: Apply a warm ginger compress to the spine and stomach.

 

Soothe intestines with chamomile tea, 4 cups daily.

 

Do not take aspirin.

 

Avoid antacids.

 

Practice relaxation techniques.

 

I have known many people with I.B.S. who are now symptom free and healthier than ever after using these types of natural therapies. So, if you have the disease, start today to improve your intestinal health.

 

Copyright 2000 Traditional Wisdom, Inc.

----

 

 

herbal remedies

Sunday, February 23, 2003 2:26:22 AM

herbal remedies

[herbal remedies] Re: Introduction

Im from B.C. and doing my shiatsu program here in the lower main-land. My herbalism is through Australia tho So I get a trip to Aussie-land for a year out of it too.I am really happy at where I am. Just stressed to the max alot though. My program this year is about 1200 hours of in classroom and a few other things, but then I also have student clinic etc, plus my B.As. work on top of it. (Too top it all off, I have IBS which I am working alot with right now. I am seeing a pretty good D.TCM, which seems to be working out though).You studied here in Canada but you are now in the US? Take care,Eric :)"k9_obsession <k9obsession@h...>" <k9obsession@h...> wrote:> Eric,> > I'm a little jealous. If I could do it all over again I'd be > doing what you are doing now. What part of Canada are you from? I > studied Kung Fu / Chi-Quong / herbalism in Kingston, Ontario.> > Dave S.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

Dear Eric,

For IBS, check out my article @:

herbal remediesArticles/The%20%20Hidden%20%20Influence

Love,

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

Hi Marilyn,

 

Sorry to here that you have been some problems with IBS. I have been

dealing IBS for about 8 years in some way shape or form. I have seen

doctors from 4 countries and so many specialists I dont care to

count anymore (including licensed naturopaths ND). Honestly, both

naturopaths I saw were fairly useless. There atempts were whole

hearted and good intended (and I know work for some people) but did

nothing for me. They also had me on a sprouted diet. I have also

followed hypoallergenic gutinous diets as well (which is similar).

 

Since then I have read tons of books, met and networked with other

people with IBS, have visited with therapists from a huge range of

modalities, and pretty much researched the heck out of it.

 

How are you going about treating yours? What do you think is the

cause?

 

About the following article. I disagree with about half or more. At

first I thought I wouldnt say anything, but I am going to. I think

people with IBS are really mis-informed sometimes, due to the fact

that the term IBS is a label for a set of symptoms, not a term for

the cause. Ie, people with IBS may have similar symptoms but not

nessicarily the same cause. Doctors like to generalize in treatments

as well, which makes things even more comlicated.

 

About the following article ... read bellow.

 

" Marilyn " <marilynb@l...> wrote:

>

> Hi Eric,

>

> I have been having a few problems with IBS myself but it has

improved the

> last few months. What a busy schedule you have!> Cheers, Marilyn

>

> I.B.S. - IRRITABLE BOWEL SYNDROME

>

> I.B.S. affects more than 80 million Americans, mostly women

between 25-45

> years old. Symptoms include alternating constipation and diarrhea,

> abdominal pain and pressure, and gas. I.B.S. is linked to factors

like food

> sensitivities, PMS or stress. Grains rich in gluten (a gelatinous

protein),

> like wheat, rye, barley and oats, are common culprits.

 

 

I can agree with this to some degree. Stress, PMS, affect people

with IBS but in no way are linked to the cause for 99.9 percent of

people. Stress will affect the weakest part of the body in anyone.

 

Anxiety is a huge symptom for most people with IBS, but this is

something that devolopes after the onset of IBS. In chinese medicine

this is linked with the Liver. An under functioning Liver (not

nessesarily the physical liver but the Liver energy) can cause

stagnation of Ki/Chi which then under feeds the pancrease/digestion

of the body. Also the choppy ki/chi in the body causes frequent

anxiety.

 

A gluetn allergy intolerance is actually Celiac Disease " causes

changes in the intestine that result in malabsorption " - Merck

Manual. A certain amount of gluten intolerance may be seen to some

degree in IBS, but in my opinion again is NOT the cause. Lots of

research has been done in this area, such as the " Specific

Carbohydrate Diet " or the " Element diet " concerning " predigested "

sugars. But much of the reseach is directed to Inflamitory Bowel

Diseases, which should not be confused with IBS (in which there is

NO inflamation in the colon, or small intestines!).

 

Cutting out glutens can be a step towards feeling better, but for

most IBS suffers, it is not the cause of the body imbalance.

 

 

Left untreated, I.B.S

> can cause more serious problems later — including colon cancer,

which

> claimed the lives of 46,600 people in 1997. Colon cancer is

clearly linked

> to a high fat, low fiber diet with few fresh fruits and

vegetables.

 

A big huge disagree here. There is no evidence supporting this

speculation. IBS is not related to colon cancer. Bad diet is related

to colon cancer. IBS can or cannot be cause by bad diet. I know

personally over 20 people with IBS that I keep in contact on a

weekly basis, and more than half are ideal weight/hight and eat a

good diet and practice good dietary habits. Also to note, is that

about 90% have tried a gluten free diet (for more than a year) with

little or no success.

 

Early

> symptoms include altered bowel habits, blood in the stool or

rectal bleeding.

 

Again, this is not true. Blood in the stools is not a sign of IBS.

Unless this blood is from hemmroids, which is another common symptom

in IBS. Even then, any kind of bleeding is usually only in extreme

cases and not a year round kind of thing. The hemmroids is a result

of extreame amounts of " altered bowel habits " and the

spleen/pancrease un-able to hold the blood properly in the body

causing prolase of organs and blood in general. (Ie, most people

with IBS have cold hands and feet, some form of hemmroids, and

sometimes minor forms or major organ prolapes).

 

> If your digestive health has gone awry, don't ignore it! In

severe cases,

> ulcerous lesions line the sides of the colon (ulcerative

> colitis). Natural therapies are effective and reduce the need for

drugs.

 

 

Again, colitis is not IBS, but rather a form of Inflamatory Bowel

Disease.

 

 

> Many sufferers see dramatic results. Diet changes are a must.

Healing herbs

> and supplements will not work without diet changes. If there is an

> appendicitis-like sharp pain, seek medical help immediately.

 

For once, I agree. Changing diet is a big must. But research all of

your diet options before you agree to the first " IBS " diet that you

find.

 

 

> Natural Healing Tips For I.B.S.

 

I agree with some of the tips, but would not be the ones I would

give to people diagnosed with IBS. Especially because not all IBS is

not caused by the same thing.

 

Ive gotta head to bed now, but Ill post another time my own

recomendations for IBS treatment later

 

I hope this has been informative for some people. Look around on the

net, there is plenty of info about IBS. Some of the info in this

article was way off base in my opinion and also doesnt co-inside

with most info about IBS (anywhere from the MERCK Manual to

http://www.ibsgroup.org)

 

Take care everyone,

Eric

[Guest guest]

Hi Eric!

 

I am also an IBS sufferer and incidently I currently live in Japan

(Nagoya area). I have found lots of help from following practices

like this artical suggests. Living in Japan where gluten products

are not mainstay makes it rather easy to get away from the

traditional Western diet. Both my children and I have had much

benefit on a more eastern diet. It is interesting that celiac

disease is almost unheard of in Japan. Hmmm am I hearing correctly

from your post that you have not benefitted from a gluetin free

diet? If so, you are the first person I have ever heard of that has

not gotton a measurable benefit from being off gluetin products.

Have you been able to ascertain what is the cause of your

inflamatory response? If your chronic inflamation is not caused by

gluetin it must be caused by something else. Have you tried natural

anti-inflamatories?

 

Love in Christ,

Cindy

 

 

herbal remedies , " Eric <mach5_kel> "

<mach5_kel> wrote:

> Hi Marilyn,

>

> Sorry to here that you have been some problems with IBS. I have

been

> dealing IBS for about 8 years in some way shape or form. I have

seen

> doctors from 4 countries and so many specialists I dont care to

> count anymore (including licensed naturopaths ND). Honestly, both

> naturopaths I saw were fairly useless. There atempts were whole

> hearted and good intended (and I know work for some people) but

did

> nothing for me. They also had me on a sprouted diet. I have also

> followed hypoallergenic gutinous diets as well (which is similar).

>

> Since then I have read tons of books, met and networked with other

> people with IBS, have visited with therapists from a huge range of

> modalities, and pretty much researched the heck out of it.

>

> How are you going about treating yours? What do you think is the

> cause?

>

> About the following article. I disagree with about half or more.

At

> first I thought I wouldnt say anything, but I am going to. I think

> people with IBS are really mis-informed sometimes, due to the fact

> that the term IBS is a label for a set of symptoms, not a term for

> the cause. Ie, people with IBS may have similar symptoms but not

> nessicarily the same cause. Doctors like to generalize in

treatments

> as well, which makes things even more comlicated.

>

> About the following article ... read bellow.

>

> " Marilyn " <marilynb@l...> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Eric,

> >

> > I have been having a few problems with IBS myself but it has

> improved the

> > last few months. What a busy schedule you have!> Cheers, Marilyn

> >

> > I.B.S. - IRRITABLE BOWEL SYNDROME

> >

> > I.B.S. affects more than 80 million Americans, mostly women

> between 25-45

> > years old. Symptoms include alternating constipation and

diarrhea,

> > abdominal pain and pressure, and gas. I.B.S. is linked to

factors

> like food

> > sensitivities, PMS or stress. Grains rich in gluten (a

gelatinous

> protein),

> > like wheat, rye, barley and oats, are common culprits.

>

>

> I can agree with this to some degree. Stress, PMS, affect people

> with IBS but in no way are linked to the cause for 99.9 percent of

> people. Stress will affect the weakest part of the body in anyone.

>

> Anxiety is a huge symptom for most people with IBS, but this is

> something that devolopes after the onset of IBS. In chinese

medicine

> this is linked with the Liver. An under functioning Liver (not

> nessesarily the physical liver but the Liver energy) can cause

> stagnation of Ki/Chi which then under feeds the

pancrease/digestion

> of the body. Also the choppy ki/chi in the body causes frequent

> anxiety.

>

> A gluetn allergy intolerance is actually Celiac Disease " causes

> changes in the intestine that result in malabsorption " - Merck

> Manual. A certain amount of gluten intolerance may be seen to some

> degree in IBS, but in my opinion again is NOT the cause. Lots of

> research has been done in this area, such as the " Specific

> Carbohydrate Diet " or the " Element diet " concerning " predigested "

> sugars. But much of the reseach is directed to Inflamitory Bowel

> Diseases, which should not be confused with IBS (in which there is

> NO inflamation in the colon, or small intestines!).

>

> Cutting out glutens can be a step towards feeling better, but for

> most IBS suffers, it is not the cause of the body imbalance.

>

>

> Left untreated, I.B.S

> > can cause more serious problems later Eincluding colon cancer,

> which

> > claimed the lives of 46,600 people in 1997. Colon cancer is

> clearly linked

> > to a high fat, low fiber diet with few fresh fruits and

> vegetables.

>

> A big huge disagree here. There is no evidence supporting this

> speculation. IBS is not related to colon cancer. Bad diet is

related

> to colon cancer. IBS can or cannot be cause by bad diet. I know

> personally over 20 people with IBS that I keep in contact on a

> weekly basis, and more than half are ideal weight/hight and eat a

> good diet and practice good dietary habits. Also to note, is that

> about 90% have tried a gluten free diet (for more than a year)

with

> little or no success.

>

> Early

> > symptoms include altered bowel habits, blood in the stool or

> rectal bleeding.

>

> Again, this is not true. Blood in the stools is not a sign of IBS.

> Unless this blood is from hemmroids, which is another common

symptom

> in IBS. Even then, any kind of bleeding is usually only in extreme

> cases and not a year round kind of thing. The hemmroids is a

result

> of extreame amounts of " altered bowel habits " and the

> spleen/pancrease un-able to hold the blood properly in the body

> causing prolase of organs and blood in general. (Ie, most people

> with IBS have cold hands and feet, some form of hemmroids, and

> sometimes minor forms or major organ prolapes).

>

> > If your digestive health has gone awry, don't ignore it! In

> severe cases,

> > ulcerous lesions line the sides of the colon (ulcerative

> > colitis). Natural therapies are effective and reduce the need

for

> drugs.

>

>

> Again, colitis is not IBS, but rather a form of Inflamatory Bowel

> Disease.

>

>

> > Many sufferers see dramatic results. Diet changes are a must.

> Healing herbs

> > and supplements will not work without diet changes. If there is

an

> > appendicitis-like sharp pain, seek medical help immediately.

>

> For once, I agree. Changing diet is a big must. But research all

of

> your diet options before you agree to the first " IBS " diet that

you

> find.

>

>

> > Natural Healing Tips For I.B.S.

>

> I agree with some of the tips, but would not be the ones I would

> give to people diagnosed with IBS. Especially because not all IBS

is

> not caused by the same thing.

>

> Ive gotta head to bed now, but Ill post another time my own

> recomendations for IBS treatment later

>

> I hope this has been informative for some people. Look around on

the

> net, there is plenty of info about IBS. Some of the info in this

> article was way off base in my opinion and also doesnt co-inside

> with most info about IBS (anywhere from the MERCK Manual to

> http://www.ibsgroup.org)

>

> Take care everyone,

> Eric

[Guest guest]

Hi Cindy,

 

Yeah, I also lived in Nagoya (and kasugai and seto-shi) and

hopefully will be heading back there after this summer for a few

more years.

 

Yes, some people find a certain amount of relief in a non-gluten

diet, but they still have IBS. Actually I am getting alot better,

and at this rate, should be generally ok by another year or so. I am

using chinese herbs and shiatsu on a daily basis.

 

>Have you been able to ascertain what is the cause of your

> inflamatory response? If your chronic inflamation is not caused by

> gluetin it must be caused by something else. Have you tried

>natural anti-inflamatories?

 

There is no inflamation. If there is an inflamation response, you

have Inflamatory Bowel Disease (ie Colitis or Chrons) not IBS.

 

Do I know the cause for my IBS? Yes, more or less. But I find it

fairly un-explainable in Allopathic theory or terms. I study western

chem. and bio-chem, pathology etc, but I dont find alot of help from

it. I find Traditional Japanese Theroy and TCM do me much better off

in this kind of thing. Something that is chronic or re-occuring, I

have had much better results with Traditional stuff, which doesnt

treat the illness, but the person as a whole to put there body back

in Balance.

 

Anyways, have you seen a Japanese accupuncturist before? I know a

good one in Nagoya (who speaks english too that I could probably

get a discount.

 

Intrestting to note, that other countries around the world that have

a high-residence diet (whole grains, veggies, fruits, legumes and

sprouts), which is based off of whole grain, rarely have IBS or

Diverticulosis. Celiac Disease is a very under diagnosed condition

anywhere in world, but have been poping up in Japan like crazy (IBS

too), due to the fact of how popular " pan " is becoming with younger

people. Which Im sure you know is nasty stuff.

 

Anyways, I gotta run, but id love to chat later.

 

Take care,

Eric

 

PS Ever seen a Japanese GI? I laughted so hard cause I was so

nervous when they did all the " tests " again in Japan, that I got it

free

 

 

herbal remedies , " luv3kidsdc

<luv3kidsdc> " <luv3kidsdc> wrote:

> Hi Eric!

>

> I am also an IBS sufferer and incidently I currently live in Japan

> (Nagoya area). I have found lots of help from following practices

> like this artical suggests. Living in Japan where gluten products

> are not mainstay makes it rather easy to get away from the

> traditional Western diet. Both my children and I have had much

> benefit on a more eastern diet. It is interesting that celiac

> disease is almost unheard of in Japan. Hmmm am I hearing correctly

> from your post that you have not benefitted from a gluetin free

> diet? If so, you are the first person I have ever heard of that

has

> not gotton a measurable benefit from being off gluetin products.

> Have you been able to ascertain what is the cause of your

> inflamatory response? If your chronic inflamation is not caused by

> gluetin it must be caused by something else. Have you tried

natural

> anti-inflamatories?

>

> Love in Christ,

> Cindy

>

[Guest guest]

There are Naturopaths and there are Naturopaths. Not all are equal by a long shot.

 

IBS should be able to be handled terminatedly within 3 months. In some instances, within 3 weeks. The stats of my patients fall within this range.

 

Love,

 

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

-

Eric <mach5_kel

herbal remedies

Monday, February 24, 2003 12:04 AM

[herbal remedies] Re: Introduction

Hi Marilyn,Sorry to here that you have been some problems with IBS. I have been dealing IBS for about 8 years in some way shape or form. I have seen doctors from 4 countries and so many specialists I dont care to count anymore (including licensed naturopaths ND). . .

[Guest guest]

Eric writes,

"but Ill post another time my own recommendations for IBS treatment later

 

Dear Eric,

 

Thanks for informing me of all that valuable information, I really appreciate it.

I am looking forward to the recommendations! I can't seem to shake the diarrhea which both me and my husband have.

 

It has been over a year now. I no longer get gas and cramping like at first though. I have never been diagnosed with IBS before but have this annoying constant D. I had several stool tests done and finally they picked up a protozoan. They said it could have been caused by drinking water or contaminated stool from somewhere.

 

We both went on medication to kill this and my husband got quite sick on it but finished it anyway. It helped a little. I should say that we had both been on the Atkins diet which is high in fats and low in carb's and fiber and no bread for almost 3 years. We went off the diet 6 months ago and now that we started a 3 months ago eating bread again ... we are a lot better.

 

Yet for no reason suddenly the D is back again after a day or two of normal bm's. It does get very wearisome though. I personally think it was a result of the Atkins diet of high fats and being on it too long. I am also interested in your opinion on Lotronex for D. We cannot get it in Canada but others that can get it swear by it!

 

Sincerely,

Marilyn

 

 

 

----

 

 

herbal remedies

Monday, February 24, 2003 02:04:37

herbal remedies

[herbal remedies] Re: Introduction

Hi Marilyn,Sorry to here that you have been some problems with IBS. I have been dealing IBS for about 8 years in some way shape or form. I have seen doctors from 4 countries and so many specialists I dont care to count anymore (including licensed naturopaths ND). Honestly, both naturopaths I saw were fairly useless. There atempts were whole hearted and good intended (and I know work for some people) but did nothing for me. They also had me on a sprouted diet. I have also followed hypoallergenic gutinous diets as well (which is similar).Since then I have read tons of books, met and networked with other people with IBS, have visited with therapists from a huge range of modalities, and pretty much researched the heck out of it.How are you going about treating yours? What do you think is the cause?About the following article. I disagree with about half or more. At first I thought I wouldnt say anything, but I am going to. I think people with IBS are really mis-informed sometimes, due to the fact that the term IBS is a label for a set of symptoms, not a term for the cause. Ie, people with IBS may have similar symptoms but not nessicarily the same cause. Doctors like to generalize in treatments as well, which makes things even more comlicated.About the following article ... read bellow."Marilyn" <marilynb@l...> wrote:> > Hi Eric,> > I have been having a few problems with IBS myself but it has improved the> last few months. What a busy schedule you have!> Cheers, Marilyn> > I.B.S. - IRRITABLE BOWEL SYNDROME > > I.B.S. affects more than 80 million Americans, mostly women between 25-45> years old. Symptoms include alternating constipation and diarrhea,> abdominal pain and pressure, and gas. I.B.S. is linked to factors like food> sensitivities, PMS or stress. Grains rich in gluten (a gelatinous protein),> like wheat, rye, barley and oats, are common culprits.I can agree with this to some degree. Stress, PMS, affect people with IBS but in no way are linked to the cause for 99.9 percent of people. Stress will affect the weakest part of the body in anyone.Anxiety is a huge symptom for most people with IBS, but this is something that devolopes after the onset of IBS. In chinese medicine this is linked with the Liver. An under functioning Liver (not nessesarily the physical liver but the Liver energy) can cause stagnation of Ki/Chi which then under feeds the pancrease/digestion of the body. Also the choppy ki/chi in the body causes frequent anxiety.A gluetn allergy intolerance is actually Celiac Disease "causes changes in the intestine that result in malabsorption" - Merck Manual. A certain amount of gluten intolerance may be seen to some degree in IBS, but in my opinion again is NOT the cause. Lots of research has been done in this area, such as the "Specific Carbohydrate Diet" or the "Element diet" concerning "predigested" sugars. But much of the reseach is directed to Inflamitory Bowel Diseases, which should not be confused with IBS (in which there is NO inflamation in the colon, or small intestines!).Cutting out glutens can be a step towards feeling better, but for most IBS suffers, it is not the cause of the body imbalance.Left untreated, I.B.S> can cause more serious problems later — including colon cancer, which> claimed the lives of 46,600 people in 1997. Colon cancer is clearly linked> to a high fat, low fiber diet with few fresh fruits and vegetables. A big huge disagree here. There is no evidence supporting this speculation. IBS is not related to colon cancer. Bad diet is related to colon cancer. IBS can or cannot be cause by bad diet. I know personally over 20 people with IBS that I keep in contact on a weekly basis, and more than half are ideal weight/hight and eat a good diet and practice good dietary habits. Also to note, is that about 90% have tried a gluten free diet (for more than a year) with little or no success.Early> symptoms include altered bowel habits, blood in the stool or rectal bleeding.Again, this is not true. Blood in the stools is not a sign of IBS. Unless this blood is from hemmroids, which is another common symptom in IBS. Even then, any kind of bleeding is usually only in extreme cases and not a year round kind of thing. The hemmroids is a result of extreame amounts of "altered bowel habits" and the spleen/pancrease un-able to hold the blood properly in the body causing prolase of organs and blood in general. (Ie, most people with IBS have cold hands and feet, some form of hemmroids, and sometimes minor forms or major organ prolapes).> If your digestive health has gone awry, don't ignore it! In severe cases,> ulcerous lesions line the sides of the colon (ulcerative> colitis). Natural therapies are effective and reduce the need for drugs.Again, colitis is not IBS, but rather a form of Inflamatory Bowel Disease.> Many sufferers see dramatic results. Diet changes are a must. Healing herbs> and supplements will not work without diet changes. If there is an> appendicitis-like sharp pain, seek medical help immediately. For once, I agree. Changing diet is a big must. But research all of your diet options before you agree to the first "IBS" diet that you find.> Natural Healing Tips For I.B.S.I agree with some of the tips, but would not be the ones I would give to people diagnosed with IBS. Especially because not all IBS is not caused by the same thing.Ive gotta head to bed now, but Ill post another time my own recomendations for IBS treatment later :)I hope this has been informative for some people. Look around on the net, there is plenty of info about IBS. Some of the info in this article was way off base in my opinion and also doesnt co-inside with most info about IBS (anywhere from the MERCK Manual to http://www.ibsgroup.org)Take care everyone,Eric :)Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

Sounds like you have worms, which I understand are detectable in only certain stages. I had a friend who suffered for two years before seeking herbal help and getting relief. She picked them up while teaching in Africa. Have you tried talking to Doc?

Becky

Marilyn <marilynb wrote:

 

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[Guest guest]

What you have sounds like a parasite, rather than IBS. Have you ever

done a parasite cleanse before? Are you fairly healthy or deficent

in general? The Atkins diet can be a dangeous thing at times. Its

intresting that both you are your husband both have it, which would

point to again, a parasite, not IBS.

 

You can either ask Doc, about it, or I can give you some advice on

eatting, and a good cleansing plan to get rid of parasites. There

are different herbal and diet combinations, but which one you do,

really depends on your body condition, your consitution, symptoms

etc.

 

Symptoms first

 

1.(Lack of cooling) Fresh-red cheeks and tonuge, freguent thist,

tidal or afternoon fevers, night sweats, restlessness.

 

2. (Deficient and cold nature) Cold hands and feet, pale face and

pale puffy tongue, weak, soft voice, low life-spark, and fatigue.

 

3. (Very deficient person) Thin, frial, weak intoverted, pale, and

weak voice

 

4. (Heat signs.... similar but different from #1) red face and

tongue, aversion to heat, desire for large amounts of water or

really cold water, frequent constipation, dark yellow urine, foul-

smelling breath and stools.

 

5. (Robust person with cold nature) Pale face and tongue, aversion

to cold, dislike of cold drinks, lack of thirst, clear water-like

urine.

 

Like wise there are 5 general treatment paths. Each you modify

slightly to meet your own needs. Sorry, I just dont have time to

type all 5, but if you wanna private message me, or post here, then

ill send info about that treatmemt path.

 

I tried to make these as simple as possible for this post. The

program is

based off of Naturopathic medicine, and chinese medicine from Paul

Pitchford and Dr. Suzanne Shaw that I studied at College when

studying wholistic nutrition and chinese medicine. Its pretty

effective.

 

Best of health to you,

Eric

 

 

 

herbal remedies , " Marilyn " <marilynb@l...>

wrote:

> Eric writes,

> " but Ill post another time my own

> recommendations for IBS treatment later

>

> Dear Eric,

>

> Thanks for informing me of all that valuable information, I really

> appreciate it.

> I am looking forward to the recommendations! I can't seem to

shake the

> diarrhea which both me and my husband have.

[Guest guest]

Hi Marilyn,

If you have parisites Doc's intestinal cleanse #1 will take care of it, however it shouldn't be used if you have IBS. The recipe is in the files, but I think you might want to call Doc and discuss it w/ him when he gets back.

Becky

Marilyn <marilynb wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

HI Eric,

 

We read the categories but don't fit into any of those. Our health is pretty good over all otherwise except that I have the beginning of Osteoporosis. It very well might be a parasite. How do you get rid of parasites?

 

Marilyn

 

----

 

 

herbal remedies

Monday, February 24, 2003 21:49:21

herbal remedies

[herbal remedies] Re: Introduction

What you have sounds like a parasite, rather than IBS. Have you ever done a parasite cleanse before? Are you fairly healthy or deficent in general? The Atkins diet can be a dangeous thing at times. Its intresting that both you are your husband both have it, which would point to again, a parasite, not IBS.You can either ask Doc, about it, or I can give you some advice on eatting, and a good cleansing plan to get rid of parasites. There are different herbal and diet combinations, but which one you do, really depends on your body condition, your consitution, symptoms etc.Symptoms first ;)1.(Lack of cooling) Fresh-red cheeks and tonuge, freguent thist, tidal or afternoon fevers, night sweats, restlessness.2. (Deficient and cold nature) Cold hands and feet, pale face and pale puffy tongue, weak, soft voice, low life-spark, and fatigue.3. (Very deficient person) Thin, frial, weak intoverted, pale, and weak voice4. (Heat signs.... similar but different from #1) red face and tongue, aversion to heat, desire for large amounts of water or really cold water, frequent constipation, dark yellow urine, foul-smelling breath and stools.5. (Robust person with cold nature) Pale face and tongue, aversion to cold, dislike of cold drinks, lack of thirst, clear water-like urine.Like wise there are 5 general treatment paths. Each you modify slightly to meet your own needs. Sorry, I just dont have time to type all 5, but if you wanna private message me, or post here, then ill send info about that treatmemt path.I tried to make these as simple as possible for this post. The program is based off of Naturopathic medicine, and chinese medicine from Paul Pitchford and Dr. Suzanne Shaw that I studied at College when studying wholistic nutrition and chinese medicine. Its pretty effective.Best of health to you,Eric :)herbal remedies , "Marilyn" <marilynb@l...> wrote:> Eric writes,> "but Ill post another time my own > recommendations for IBS treatment later > > Dear Eric,> > Thanks for informing me of all that valuable information, I really> appreciate it.> I am looking forward to the recommendations! I can't seem to shake the> diarrhea which both me and my husband have. Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

Welcome Carol!!!!!

 

Make yourself at home. Feel free to join in the conversation (or start

one of your your own!). We have a great group of folks here who are very

knowledgeable and willing to share the wealth of info they have stored

in those noggins!

 

*Smile*

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Dragon's Pearls [dragonspearls]

Tuesday, April 01, 2003 7:38 AM

Undisclosed-Recipient:;

Introduction

 

 

Hello,

 

I joined the list almost a month ago, and while I've been lurking, it

really

wasn't intentional. It's just been an absolutely crazy month with

moving,

homeschooling my stepon, creating web pages, changing hosts, and arguing

with our ISP about why I couldn't see my own site when I tried to surf

there. That took all day yesterday, talking with more than 6 different

techs. Turns out it is their problem/fault, and we have a temporary fix

so

I can now surf to my site and check how it all looks. Anyhoo ...

 

We (hubby, stepson, myself, 2 cats and 1 guinea pig) live in the

Birmingham,

AL area. I've been making soaps and all for almost 10 years now. What

started as Christmas gifts of M & P soap and bath salts turned into a

passion

for CP soapmaking. The more I learned, the more passionate (addicted!)

I

became. I stopped making M & P about 6 years or so ago when I developed

chemical sensitivities. Fragrance oils cause me considerable health

problems, to the point where I can't go near a B & BW or Yankee Candle

store.

Major bummer with all the yummy fragrances available! But I'm looking

to

get back into it using essential oils with my discovery of SFIC bases.

First thing on my agenda is experimenting with natural coloring using

botanicals and clays.

 

Aside from soapmaking, I also have interests in herbs, computers and

crafts.

I've been making herbal remedies and incense for more years than I care

to

think about. I guess you could say I'm something of a dabbler in crafts

since I've done/tried so many different things. About the only craft I

could never get the hang of was sewing. I can sew on a button, or mend

a

seam or hem, but that's about it. I've been using computers for a good

15

years now. Started with an old Commodore that had maybe 2K of RAM, and

a

tape drive instead of a harddrive. Talk about a dinosaur!

 

I apologize for being a lurker, but hope to be posting more now that I'm

getting caught up (I think!) on everything.

 

Carol

 

Dragon's Pearls

http://www.dragonspearls.com