morning sickness

[Guest guest]

I'll second this. When I was sick this sure helped me when I had nausea.

 

Lisa

 

John Ybarra <deuteronomy2929

herbal remedies

Sat, 5 Jun 2004 13:22:56 -0700 (PDT)

herbal remedies

Re: Herbal Remedies - Morning sickness

 

 

We have a friend that is pregnant (we wish it were us!!!), and she has awful morning sickness. I suggested taking a fresh root of ginger, grating about a teaspoon to a tablespoon's worth, and steeping it in hot water for 20 minutes, and drinking the tea. It sure seems to help. She keeps some brewed at all times, sips it cold first thing in the mornings, all through the day. As I said, it sure seems to help.

 

John

 

Ostrowski <Odesign1 wrote:

Girls or guys...What has any of you used for morning sickness.? I have a

list of some herbs but would like to hear from someone who has had some

success with this.

No it's not for me !.....Mary O

 

 

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[Guest guest]

I've started drinking it every morning, and sipping on it during the day. Is it possible to take too much ginger? I sure hope not.

 

John"Lisa F." <malica98 wrote:

I'll second this. When I was sick this sure helped me when I had nausea. Lisa

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[Guest guest]

I haven't read all the replies, and I know I'm a few days late, but I

wanted to mention that you can also just chew on little pieces of

fresh ginger. Delicious !! I've also heard that Vitamin B-6 can help

with morning sickness, and that one of the better sources of this

would be brewers yeast (the kind that isn't activated).

 

JoJo

 

 

herbal remedies , " Lisa F. " <malica98@p...>

wrote:

> I'll second this. When I was sick this sure helped me when I had

nausea.

>

>

> Lisa

>

> John Ybarra <deuteronomy2929>

> herbal remedies

> Sat, 5 Jun 2004 13:22:56 -0700 (PDT)

> herbal remedies

> Re: Herbal Remedies - Morning sickness

>

>

> We have a friend that is pregnant (we wish it were us!!!), and she

has awful

> morning sickness. I suggested taking a fresh root of ginger,

grating about a

> teaspoon to a tablespoon's worth, and steeping it in hot water for

20

> minutes, and drinking the tea. It sure seems to help. She keeps

some brewed

> at all times, sips it cold first thing in the mornings, all through

the day.

> As I said, it sure seems to help.

>

> John

[Guest guest]

Hi David,

 

David Tarlo wrote:

> Your experience will help, Having not treated Morning Sickness in

> pregnancy, I would appreciate some help from your experience... and it

> would benefit everyone else.. Thanks, David Tarlo, L.Ac.

 

PC06-Neiguan is the classical symptomatic acupoint for morning

sickness. See: http://tinyurl.com/5t5ez

 

DIY acupressure or weekly acupuncture can be used. Also, a tea or

decoction of 2-3g ginger, twice/day, can reduce nausea and vomiting in

pregnancy.

 

 

Best regards,

 

 

Tel: (H): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0)

 

 

 

 

Ireland.

Tel: (W): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0)

 

 

 

" Man who says it can't be done should not interrupt man doing it " -

Chinese Proverb

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

David,

I have had good results with P6, Ren 12 or 14 palpating for

tenderness, st 36 , sp9 without alot of manual stimulation. But no

lower abdominal points.

In severe cases Huo Xiang Zheng Qi tang for a few days completely

turned around a case where the lady was vomiting daily and could

hardly eat anything. But I consider that somewhat aggressive for a

severe situation. I have found that ginger isn't very effective for

alot of people and acupressure is not usually done by the patient

with enough force to benefit as much as acupuncture.

Nicole Hohmann

 

 

 

Chinese Medicine , David Tarlo

<d1tarlo> wrote:

> Your experience will help,

>

> Having not treated Morning Sickness in pregnancy, I

> would appreciate some help from your experience... and

> it would benefit everyone else..

>

> Thanks,

>

> David Tarlo, L.Ac.

[Guest guest]

David,

I have just completed treatment number two for a women with all day morning

sickness, she has reduced the morning sickness over 50% from the first

treatment and can now drink water and eat without throwing up.

 

The approach was to use Yin Qiao extra ordinary vessel. One of its

applications is for counter flow qi.

 

I follow this with direct moxa to Sp 6 and taped intradermals to Sp 6.

 

I also mentioned to her to add a little fresh lemon juice, sugar and salt to

water to settle the stomach.

Best wishes,

 

 

nicolehohmann [nicolehohmann]

Thursday, 24 March 2005 6:56 AM

Chinese Medicine

Re: Morning sickness

 

 

 

David,

I have had good results with P6, Ren 12 or 14 palpating for

tenderness, st 36 , sp9 without alot of manual stimulation. But no

lower abdominal points.

In severe cases Huo Xiang Zheng Qi tang for a few days completely

turned around a case where the lady was vomiting daily and could

hardly eat anything. But I consider that somewhat aggressive for a

severe situation. I have found that ginger isn't very effective for

alot of people and acupressure is not usually done by the patient

with enough force to benefit as much as acupuncture.

Nicole Hohmann

 

 

 

Chinese Medicine , David Tarlo

<d1tarlo> wrote:

> Your experience will help,

>

> Having not treated Morning Sickness in pregnancy, I

> would appreciate some help from your experience... and

> it would benefit everyone else..

>

> Thanks,

>

> David Tarlo, L.Ac.

 

 

 

 

 

http://babel.altavista.com/

 

and adjust

accordingly.

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Sharon and all,

 

I wonder why we are always told that Sp 6 is contraindicated in

pregnancy when so many practitioners seem to use it safely? Any

thoughts anyone?

 

Laura

 

 

 

Chinese Medicine ,

wrote:

> David,

> I have just completed treatment number two for a women with all day

morning

> sickness, she has reduced the morning sickness over 50% from the first

> treatment and can now drink water and eat without throwing up.

>

> The approach was to use Yin Qiao extra ordinary vessel. One of its

> applications is for counter flow qi.

>

> I follow this with direct moxa to Sp 6 and taped intradermals to Sp 6.

>

> I also mentioned to her to add a little fresh lemon juice, sugar and

salt to

> water to settle the stomach.

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

> nicolehohmann [nicolehohmann]

> Thursday, 24 March 2005 6:56 AM

> Chinese Medicine

> Re: Morning sickness

>

>

>

> David,

> I have had good results with P6, Ren 12 or 14 palpating for

> tenderness, st 36 , sp9 without alot of manual stimulation. But no

> lower abdominal points.

> In severe cases Huo Xiang Zheng Qi tang for a few days completely

> turned around a case where the lady was vomiting daily and could

> hardly eat anything. But I consider that somewhat aggressive for a

> severe situation. I have found that ginger isn't very effective for

> alot of people and acupressure is not usually done by the patient

> with enough force to benefit as much as acupuncture.

> Nicole Hohmann

>

>

>

> Chinese Medicine , David Tarlo

> <d1tarlo> wrote:

> > Your experience will help,

> >

> > Having not treated Morning Sickness in pregnancy, I

> > would appreciate some help from your experience... and

> > it would benefit everyone else..

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > David Tarlo, L.Ac.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> http://babel.altavista.com/

>

>

> and

adjust

> accordingly.

>

> Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside

the group

> requires prior permission from the author.

>

> If you are a TCM academic and wish to discuss TCM with other

academics,

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Laura,

Yes good question.

 

Perhaps it is in the way the point is treated, or man handled!

 

It is standard practice in Japan, for Sp 6 to have rice grain moxa daily

during some stages of pregnancy as 'homework' by the woman.

 

Furthermore the moxa style is tonifying and not dispersing.

 

It pays to remember that in Japanese meridian therapy, whilst the

practitioner may have a sensation at the point, there is no strong Chinese

style needling.

 

It is a three way intersection point of the three leg yin.

 

On this particular female Px, I did not needle the point, only moxa and

lightly placed intradermal needle. The point was hard and painful on

palpation, it was pain free and soft following the rice grain moxa.

 

So I assume it has the ability to help counter act the rebellious stomach qi

in morning sickness. I consider the treatment of Sp 6 to be a symptomatic

treatment and the use of Yin Qiao to be the root treatment.

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

heylaurag [heylaurag]

Friday, 25 March 2005 5:44 PM

Chinese Medicine

Re: Morning sickness

 

 

 

Hi Sharon and all,

 

I wonder why we are always told that Sp 6 is contraindicated in

pregnancy when so many practitioners seem to use it safely? Any

thoughts anyone?

 

Laura

 

 

 

Chinese Medicine ,

wrote:

> David,

> I have just completed treatment number two for a women with all day

morning

> sickness, she has reduced the morning sickness over 50% from the first

> treatment and can now drink water and eat without throwing up.

>

> The approach was to use Yin Qiao extra ordinary vessel. One of its

> applications is for counter flow qi.

>

> I follow this with direct moxa to Sp 6 and taped intradermals to Sp 6.

>

> I also mentioned to her to add a little fresh lemon juice, sugar and

salt to

> water to settle the stomach.

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

> nicolehohmann [nicolehohmann]

> Thursday, 24 March 2005 6:56 AM

> Chinese Medicine

> Re: Morning sickness

>

>

>

> David,

> I have had good results with P6, Ren 12 or 14 palpating for

> tenderness, st 36 , sp9 without alot of manual stimulation. But no

> lower abdominal points.

> In severe cases Huo Xiang Zheng Qi tang for a few days completely

> turned around a case where the lady was vomiting daily and could

> hardly eat anything. But I consider that somewhat aggressive for a

> severe situation. I have found that ginger isn't very effective for

> alot of people and acupressure is not usually done by the patient

> with enough force to benefit as much as acupuncture.

> Nicole Hohmann

>

>

>

> Chinese Medicine , David Tarlo

> <d1tarlo> wrote:

> > Your experience will help,

> >

> > Having not treated Morning Sickness in pregnancy, I

> > would appreciate some help from your experience... and

> > it would benefit everyone else..

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > David Tarlo, L.Ac.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> http://babel.altavista.com/

>

>

> and

adjust

> accordingly.

>

> Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside

the group

> requires prior permission from the author.

>

> If you are a TCM academic and wish to discuss TCM with other

academics,

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sharon wrote:

 

[ ... ] The point was hard and painful on palpation, it was pain free and

soft following the rice grain moxa.

>

 

Takes us to the Nan ching passage: In yang qiao mai disease there is

tightness

of the yang side [of the leg] and looseness of the yin side [of the

leg]. In yin

qiao mai disease there is looseness of the yang side [of the leg] and

tension

of the yin side [of the leg].

 

Which makes it yin qiao illness. How would yang qiao intervention help?

 

I think even if the tight SP 6 location makes it seem like a yin qiao

illness, the

qiao vessels are connected to each other, and working the yin side

benefits the

whole qiao bed.

 

And the very light press needle Sharon places, or the even lighter

toning thread

moxa, seem enough for the qiao bed to become stable.

 

Wonder if pregnant women present with a tight yin - loose yang leg?

 

Would people working with pregnant women report?

 

Holmes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So I assume it has the ability to help counter act the rebellious stomach qi

in morning sickness. I consider the treatment of Sp 6 to be a symptomatic

treatment and the use of Yin Qiao to be the root treatment.

 

 

 

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

As Maria Muldour once sang, " it ain't the meat, it's the motion " .

 

 

On Mar 24, 2005, at 11:43 PM, heylaurag wrote:

 

>

> Hi Sharon and all,

>

> I wonder why we are always told that Sp 6 is contraindicated in

> pregnancy when so many practitioners seem to use it safely? Any

> thoughts anyone?

>

> Laura

[Guest guest]

Well Zev,

I think this is right.

 

Because Sp 6 is also the point to use to encourage delivery using direct

grain/half grain size moxa, but when the time is right, ie in the delivery

birthing suite etc. So the motion at one stage of pregnancy is quite

different to the motion at another stage of pregnancy... if I got your

drift?!?

Best wishes,

 

 

[zrosenbe]

Saturday, 26 March 2005 2:33 AM

Chinese Medicine

Re: Re: Morning sickness

 

 

As Maria Muldour once sang, " it ain't the meat, it's the motion " .

 

On Mar 24, 2005, at 11:43 PM, heylaurag wrote:

 

>

> Hi Sharon and all,

>

> I wonder why we are always told that Sp 6 is contraindicated in

> pregnancy when so many practitioners seem to use it safely? Any

> thoughts anyone?

>

> Laura

 

 

 

http://babel.altavista.com/

 

and adjust

accordingly.

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I had horrible pregnancies like that too. I also took

Phenergan and the only thing it seemed to do was knock

me out so I didn't know I was sick. My Dr told me to

take one Unisom sleep pill at night, it has Bendectin

in it, which was a prescription drug that they used to

give pregnant women for morning sickness. That helped

a lot. I took it throughout three pregnancies, through

the entire pregnancies. Also, she needs fluids. You

can die from dehydration very quickly. I know this

because I waited and was told at the hospital that if

I had waited two more days, I would have died from it.

Have her go the ER for IV fluids. It also makes you

feel better and then you are able to at least keep

some fluids down, I am not sure why but it does have

that affect. I ended up having an IV stand hooked up

at home and then had to switch the IV fluid bags on my

own for quite a while.

 

Have her aske her Dr about the Unisom sleep aid to

make sure that he says it is ok. BTW all of my kids

are perfectly normal, so the Unisom didn't have any

bad effects on any of my children. They sometimes take

drugs off of the market for dumb reasons as I am sure

you know and then people that REALLY need them suffer

because of it. Good luck and I hope she gets to

feeling better. I know only too well what it is like

to throw up so much that you loose weight and can't

even function or get up to go to the bathroom without

someone helping you. It is very miserable!...Mama

 

> Message: 1

> Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:21:09 EDT

> cowluver01

> Need help with morning sickness

>

> Does anyone have a suggestion or know of something

> that my daughter can

> take. She is pregnant with her first baby and is

> very very very sick....Her

> doctor keeps telling her that there is nothing they

> can give her........he did

> give her some pneagrean......but it has not

> helped......she is vomiting all

> day and most of the night........I know there has to

> be something natural that

> will help......Thanks in advance for all your

> help......

>

> Linda

>

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[Guest guest]

Has she tried the Chinese acupressure

bracelet?

It puts continuous pressure on a point

that helps with nausea.

 

Many pregnant women have found it helpful.

 

The most common vitamin deficiency

linked with excessive vomiting in pregnancy

is B6.

 

Most common herb of course is ginger.

 

Good luck!

 

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[Guest guest]

Hello,

 

I believe it's the B6 vitamin that does that. But don't worry, not everyone has morning sickness - I didn't.

 

I have just posted an article to the files on the groups website, that was written by Doc's wife, Valorie Shillington: "How to have a healthy baby". Have a read of that - excellent advice!

 

love

Lisa

 

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atesixsevenfivethreeonine

herbal remedies

Sunday, August 14, 2005 3:53 AM

Herbal Remedies - Morning Sickness

I was just wondering if there are any herbs or herb tea that would prevent morning sickness, or at least make it not so bad.My wife isn't pregnant yet, but I hate the thought of her having to go through that.

[Guest guest]

ginger is good, so ginger snaps help. whole foods even sells really good

organic gingersnaps. my sister who hates ginger and ginger snaps loved them.

raspberry tea helps me, though some would say that if she has a history of

miscarriage to avoid it. traditional medicinals makes a really good pregnancy

tea. there is also a belly rub that I found and duplicated made with a base of

cocoa butter. it has peppermint leaves, fennel nettle and peppermint EO.

 

this website also has a lot of good ideas, but as with anything, i would

research it before i take it. for example, wild yam contains progesterone, and

while that is excellent for curing morning sickness, if you quit taking it

during the first trimester the drop in progesterone could cause a miscarriage.

also i was under the understanding that peach leaves can be poisenous. (there

are several very benificial herbs that fall into this category btw.)

http://www.motherlove.com/faq_morningsickness.php

 

Ramona

 

Quoting atesixsevenfivethreeonine <rtt1969:

 

> I was just wondering if there are any herbs or herb tea that would

> prevent morning sickness, or at least make it not so bad.

>

> My wife isn't pregnant yet, but I hate the thought of her having to go

> through that.

>

>

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural

> remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from

> list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members

> free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington

>

[Guest guest]

>I was just wondering if there are any herbs or herb tea that would

> prevent morning sickness, or at least make it not so bad.

>

> My wife isn't pregnant yet, but I hate the thought of her having to go

> through that.

 

Some women find relief by drinking Ginger Ale or Ginger tea. Ginger is

supposed to help with nausea of any kind.

 

Also, keeping some crackers beside the bed, and eating a couple BEFORE

rising from bed, sometimes also helps keep the stomach a little calmer.

 

Best of luck to you and your wife!

Candy

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Oh, that reminds me: when I was pregnant, I was advised to eat a little protein before getting out of bed, such as cheese. As I said, I never got the morning sickness; possibly it could be because I had the protein - I'm not sure.

 

love

Lisa

 

-

C. Lucas

herbal remedies

Sunday, August 14, 2005 6:15 PM

Re: Herbal Remedies - Morning SicknessAlso, keeping some crackers beside the bed, and eating a couple BEFORE rising from bed, sometimes also helps keep the stomach a little calmer.

[Guest guest]

Dear Mary,

 

You may try the following prescriptions (less points and gentle technique) :

 

General : RN12, ST36, PC6, SP4

 

ST Def : UB20, UB21

 

LR Heat : LR3, GB34

 

Damp and Phlegm : SP9, ST40

 

 

Regards,

Mehdi Hashemi

 

 

 

 

 

" acumary " <acumary

Chinese Traditional Medicine ; VAAOM

Wednesday, November 8, 2006 4:34:51 PM

Morning sickness

 

Hi Everyone,

 

Next week I will be seeing a 33 yr-old woman who is in her first trimester

with her second child and suffering terribly with morning sickness. Does

anyone have any suggestions that they have found to be effective? .

 

Many thanks,

 

Mary Chamberlain, L.Ac. M.S.

518-798-8899

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Mary,

 

some weeks ago I had a woman with severe morning sickness. She had been

hospitalized for one week for dehydration. She was still feeling extremely

nauseous when she came to me. She felt better after two treatments, and was

discharged after four treatments. Just very simple acupuncture on PC6, CV12

and ST36. No herbs- she had previously taken herbs from me for her fertility

treatment but couldn't stand the smell with her hyperemesis gravidarum.

Except for ginger, which I recommended as a tea or in the kitchen.

I wrote up a small article on the topic here http://chinese-geneeskunde

be/00subs_details.php?object_ID=919 It is in Dutch, but the links take you

to pages on the topic of morning sickness.

 

Best regards,

 

Tom.

 

----

 

acumary

11/08/06 17:31:50

Chinese Traditional Medicine ; VAAOM

Morning sickness

 

Hi Everyone,

 

Next week I will be seeing a 33 yr-old woman who is in her first trimester

with her second child and suffering terribly with morning sickness. Does

anyone have any suggestions that they have found to be effective? .

 

Many thanks,

 

Mary Chamberlain, L.Ac. M.S.

518-798-8899

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Sharon,

 

Thank you so much for you suggestions - of course you are totally right - I

was just trying to be a bit more prepared before I saw the women as I don't

tend to treat pregnant women where I live. I haven't met her or done a

differential diagnosis yet-

But, I wanted to be sure to have herbs or oils on hand just in case -

 

I have to say that everyone has been so kind and so very generous with

suggestions that I feel truly prepared and ultimately more confident than I

started out.

 

I let you know what happens.

 

Many thanks,

Mary Chamberlain, L.Ac. M.S.

518-798-8899

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Mary,

 

I appreciate the suggestions of some of our practitioners but what

about differential diagnosis? It really does make a difference.

Isn't that the heart and soul of our medicine? Plus what happens

when you try the " protocol " on a woman and it doesn't work? Thanks

Mehdi Hashemi for taking this into account. In my practice some

women have Qi deficiency/cold/damp and respond to ginger but many

women suffer from depressive heat and/or yin vacuity in which case

the " protocols " would not work and ginger would make things worse.

 

I have found that, especially when the hyperemesis is severe there is

Yin vacuity of the stomach and kidney. In this case I use Kidney 6,

16 and 27 as well as bladder 23 and CV 12. But, just because it is

severe does not mean it is this pattern.

 

Hope this helps,

 

Sharon

 

 

 

Sharon Weizenbaum

86 Henry Street

Amherst, MA 01002

413-549-4021

sweiz

www.whitepinehealingarts.com

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Tom:

 

Thanks for the simple points. Was your patient beyond the 1st trimester. Do

you get concerned about PC6 when they are. Do you needle gently at that point.

 

Anne

-------------- Original message ----------------------

" Tom Verhaeghe " <tom.verhaeghe

>

> Dear Mary,

>

> some weeks ago I had a woman with severe morning sickness. She had been

> hospitalized for one week for dehydration. She was still feeling extremely

> nauseous when she came to me. She felt better after two treatments, and was

> discharged after four treatments. Just very simple acupuncture on PC6, CV12

> and ST36. No herbs- she had previously taken herbs from me for her fertility

> treatment but couldn't stand the smell with her hyperemesis gravidarum.

> Except for ginger, which I recommended as a tea or in the kitchen.

> I wrote up a small article on the topic here http://chinese-geneeskunde

> be/00subs_details.php?object_ID=919 It is in Dutch, but the links take you

> to pages on the topic of morning sickness.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Tom.

>

> ----

>

> acumary

> 11/08/06 17:31:50

> Chinese Traditional Medicine ; VAAOM

> Morning sickness

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> Next week I will be seeing a 33 yr-old woman who is in her first trimester

> with her second child and suffering terribly with morning sickness. Does

> anyone have any suggestions that they have found to be effective? .

>

> Many thanks,

>

> Mary Chamberlain, L.Ac. M.S.

> 518-798-8899

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Anne:

 

my patient was still in her first trimester. She had a history of

miscarriage so we were very cautious about what we did. I used very gentle

needling on her because she was extremely weakened due to her dehydration,

on top of a kidney and spleen yang vacuity.

I would select PC6 when they are over the first trimester when the symptoms

justify its use.

She started eating right after the first treatment, and recovered quite

quickly. A yin vacuity pattern would need another treatment, as Sharon

suggested. Although I would probably still include ST36 and PC6 even in a

yin vacuity protocol, as a symptomatic treatment.

 

Regards,

 

Tom.

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anne.crowley

11/09/06 15:20:58

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Re: Morning sickness

 

Tom:

 

Thanks for the simple points. Was your patient beyond the 1st trimester. Do

you get concerned about PC6 when they are. Do you needle gently at that

point.

 

Anne

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Yes, women can get carpal tunnel after the first trimester, when PC 6 is

contraindicated. Some practitioners use it anyway. I appears you would if

necessary.

 

Thanks,

 

Anne

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" Tom Verhaeghe " <tom.verhaeghe

>

> Hi Anne:

>

> my patient was still in her first trimester. She had a history of

> miscarriage so we were very cautious about what we did. I used very gentle

> needling on her because she was extremely weakened due to her dehydration,

> on top of a kidney and spleen yang vacuity.

> I would select PC6 when they are over the first trimester when the symptoms

> justify its use.

> She started eating right after the first treatment, and recovered quite

> quickly. A yin vacuity pattern would need another treatment, as Sharon

> suggested. Although I would probably still include ST36 and PC6 even in a

> yin vacuity protocol, as a symptomatic treatment.

>

> Regards,

>

> Tom.

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> anne.crowley

> 11/09/06 15:20:58

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> Re: Morning sickness

>

> Tom:

>

> Thanks for the simple points. Was your patient beyond the 1st trimester. Do

> you get concerned about PC6 when they are. Do you needle gently at that

> point.

>

> Anne

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Acupuncture and herbs aside, I have found that the travel sickness

bands which are worn on the wrist and press on Neiguan, PC6, to be

very effective for morning sickness.

Regards,

Lea.

 

 

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Corp <gitavarz wrote:

>

> Dear Mary,

>

> You may try the following prescriptions (less points and gentle

technique) :

>

> General : RN12, ST36, PC6, SP4

>

> ST Def : UB20, UB21

>

> LR Heat : LR3, GB34

>

> Damp and Phlegm : SP9, ST40

>

>

> Regards,

> Mehdi Hashemi

>

>

>

>

>

> " acumary " <acumary

> Chinese Traditional Medicine ;

VAAOM

> Wednesday, November 8, 2006 4:34:51 PM

> Morning sickness

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> Next week I will be seeing a 33 yr-old woman who is in her first

trimester

> with her second child and suffering terribly with morning sickness.

Does

> anyone have any suggestions that they have found to be effective? .

>

> Many thanks,

>

> Mary Chamberlain, L.Ac. M.S.

> 518-798-8899

>

>

>