Guest guest Posted June 6, 2004 Report Share Posted June 6, 2004 I'll second this. When I was sick this sure helped me when I had nausea. Lisa John Ybarra <deuteronomy2929 herbal remedies Sat, 5 Jun 2004 13:22:56 -0700 (PDT) herbal remedies Re: Herbal Remedies - Morning sickness We have a friend that is pregnant (we wish it were us!!!), and she has awful morning sickness. I suggested taking a fresh root of ginger, grating about a teaspoon to a tablespoon's worth, and steeping it in hot water for 20 minutes, and drinking the tea. It sure seems to help. She keeps some brewed at all times, sips it cold first thing in the mornings, all through the day. As I said, it sure seems to help. John Ostrowski <Odesign1 wrote: Girls or guys...What has any of you used for morning sickness.? I have a list of some herbs but would like to hear from someone who has had some success with this. No it's not for me !.....Mary O Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Messenger <http://messenger./> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian Shillington Doctor of Naturopathy Dr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2004 Report Share Posted June 6, 2004 I've started drinking it every morning, and sipping on it during the day. Is it possible to take too much ginger? I sure hope not. John"Lisa F." <malica98 wrote: I'll second this. When I was sick this sure helped me when I had nausea. Lisa Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 I haven't read all the replies, and I know I'm a few days late, but I wanted to mention that you can also just chew on little pieces of fresh ginger. Delicious !! I've also heard that Vitamin B-6 can help with morning sickness, and that one of the better sources of this would be brewers yeast (the kind that isn't activated). JoJo herbal remedies , " Lisa F. " <malica98@p...> wrote: > I'll second this. When I was sick this sure helped me when I had nausea. > > > Lisa > > John Ybarra <deuteronomy2929> > herbal remedies > Sat, 5 Jun 2004 13:22:56 -0700 (PDT) > herbal remedies > Re: Herbal Remedies - Morning sickness > > > We have a friend that is pregnant (we wish it were us!!!), and she has awful > morning sickness. I suggested taking a fresh root of ginger, grating about a > teaspoon to a tablespoon's worth, and steeping it in hot water for 20 > minutes, and drinking the tea. It sure seems to help. She keeps some brewed > at all times, sips it cold first thing in the mornings, all through the day. > As I said, it sure seems to help. > > John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 Hi David, David Tarlo wrote: > Your experience will help, Having not treated Morning Sickness in > pregnancy, I would appreciate some help from your experience... and it > would benefit everyone else.. Thanks, David Tarlo, L.Ac. PC06-Neiguan is the classical symptomatic acupoint for morning sickness. See: http://tinyurl.com/5t5ez DIY acupressure or weekly acupuncture can be used. Also, a tea or decoction of 2-3g ginger, twice/day, can reduce nausea and vomiting in pregnancy. Best regards, Tel: (H): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0) Ireland. Tel: (W): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0) " Man who says it can't be done should not interrupt man doing it " - Chinese Proverb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 David, I have had good results with P6, Ren 12 or 14 palpating for tenderness, st 36 , sp9 without alot of manual stimulation. But no lower abdominal points. In severe cases Huo Xiang Zheng Qi tang for a few days completely turned around a case where the lady was vomiting daily and could hardly eat anything. But I consider that somewhat aggressive for a severe situation. I have found that ginger isn't very effective for alot of people and acupressure is not usually done by the patient with enough force to benefit as much as acupuncture. Nicole Hohmann Chinese Medicine , David Tarlo <d1tarlo> wrote: > Your experience will help, > > Having not treated Morning Sickness in pregnancy, I > would appreciate some help from your experience... and > it would benefit everyone else.. > > Thanks, > > David Tarlo, L.Ac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 David, I have just completed treatment number two for a women with all day morning sickness, she has reduced the morning sickness over 50% from the first treatment and can now drink water and eat without throwing up. The approach was to use Yin Qiao extra ordinary vessel. One of its applications is for counter flow qi. I follow this with direct moxa to Sp 6 and taped intradermals to Sp 6. I also mentioned to her to add a little fresh lemon juice, sugar and salt to water to settle the stomach. Best wishes, nicolehohmann [nicolehohmann] Thursday, 24 March 2005 6:56 AM Chinese Medicine Re: Morning sickness David, I have had good results with P6, Ren 12 or 14 palpating for tenderness, st 36 , sp9 without alot of manual stimulation. But no lower abdominal points. In severe cases Huo Xiang Zheng Qi tang for a few days completely turned around a case where the lady was vomiting daily and could hardly eat anything. But I consider that somewhat aggressive for a severe situation. I have found that ginger isn't very effective for alot of people and acupressure is not usually done by the patient with enough force to benefit as much as acupuncture. Nicole Hohmann Chinese Medicine , David Tarlo <d1tarlo> wrote: > Your experience will help, > > Having not treated Morning Sickness in pregnancy, I > would appreciate some help from your experience... and > it would benefit everyone else.. > > Thanks, > > David Tarlo, L.Ac. http://babel.altavista.com/ and adjust accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 Hi Sharon and all, I wonder why we are always told that Sp 6 is contraindicated in pregnancy when so many practitioners seem to use it safely? Any thoughts anyone? Laura Chinese Medicine , wrote: > David, > I have just completed treatment number two for a women with all day morning > sickness, she has reduced the morning sickness over 50% from the first > treatment and can now drink water and eat without throwing up. > > The approach was to use Yin Qiao extra ordinary vessel. One of its > applications is for counter flow qi. > > I follow this with direct moxa to Sp 6 and taped intradermals to Sp 6. > > I also mentioned to her to add a little fresh lemon juice, sugar and salt to > water to settle the stomach. > Best wishes, > > > > nicolehohmann [nicolehohmann] > Thursday, 24 March 2005 6:56 AM > Chinese Medicine > Re: Morning sickness > > > > David, > I have had good results with P6, Ren 12 or 14 palpating for > tenderness, st 36 , sp9 without alot of manual stimulation. But no > lower abdominal points. > In severe cases Huo Xiang Zheng Qi tang for a few days completely > turned around a case where the lady was vomiting daily and could > hardly eat anything. But I consider that somewhat aggressive for a > severe situation. I have found that ginger isn't very effective for > alot of people and acupressure is not usually done by the patient > with enough force to benefit as much as acupuncture. > Nicole Hohmann > > > > Chinese Medicine , David Tarlo > <d1tarlo> wrote: > > Your experience will help, > > > > Having not treated Morning Sickness in pregnancy, I > > would appreciate some help from your experience... and > > it would benefit everyone else.. > > > > Thanks, > > > > David Tarlo, L.Ac. > > > > > > > http://babel.altavista.com/ > > > and adjust > accordingly. > > Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the group > requires prior permission from the author. > > If you are a TCM academic and wish to discuss TCM with other academics, > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 Hi Laura, Yes good question. Perhaps it is in the way the point is treated, or man handled! It is standard practice in Japan, for Sp 6 to have rice grain moxa daily during some stages of pregnancy as 'homework' by the woman. Furthermore the moxa style is tonifying and not dispersing. It pays to remember that in Japanese meridian therapy, whilst the practitioner may have a sensation at the point, there is no strong Chinese style needling. It is a three way intersection point of the three leg yin. On this particular female Px, I did not needle the point, only moxa and lightly placed intradermal needle. The point was hard and painful on palpation, it was pain free and soft following the rice grain moxa. So I assume it has the ability to help counter act the rebellious stomach qi in morning sickness. I consider the treatment of Sp 6 to be a symptomatic treatment and the use of Yin Qiao to be the root treatment. Best wishes, heylaurag [heylaurag] Friday, 25 March 2005 5:44 PM Chinese Medicine Re: Morning sickness Hi Sharon and all, I wonder why we are always told that Sp 6 is contraindicated in pregnancy when so many practitioners seem to use it safely? Any thoughts anyone? Laura Chinese Medicine , wrote: > David, > I have just completed treatment number two for a women with all day morning > sickness, she has reduced the morning sickness over 50% from the first > treatment and can now drink water and eat without throwing up. > > The approach was to use Yin Qiao extra ordinary vessel. One of its > applications is for counter flow qi. > > I follow this with direct moxa to Sp 6 and taped intradermals to Sp 6. > > I also mentioned to her to add a little fresh lemon juice, sugar and salt to > water to settle the stomach. > Best wishes, > > > > nicolehohmann [nicolehohmann] > Thursday, 24 March 2005 6:56 AM > Chinese Medicine > Re: Morning sickness > > > > David, > I have had good results with P6, Ren 12 or 14 palpating for > tenderness, st 36 , sp9 without alot of manual stimulation. But no > lower abdominal points. > In severe cases Huo Xiang Zheng Qi tang for a few days completely > turned around a case where the lady was vomiting daily and could > hardly eat anything. But I consider that somewhat aggressive for a > severe situation. I have found that ginger isn't very effective for > alot of people and acupressure is not usually done by the patient > with enough force to benefit as much as acupuncture. > Nicole Hohmann > > > > Chinese Medicine , David Tarlo > <d1tarlo> wrote: > > Your experience will help, > > > > Having not treated Morning Sickness in pregnancy, I > > would appreciate some help from your experience... and > > it would benefit everyone else.. > > > > Thanks, > > > > David Tarlo, L.Ac. > > > > > > > http://babel.altavista.com/ > > > and adjust > accordingly. > > Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the group > requires prior permission from the author. > > If you are a TCM academic and wish to discuss TCM with other academics, > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 Sharon wrote: [ ... ] The point was hard and painful on palpation, it was pain free and soft following the rice grain moxa. > Takes us to the Nan ching passage: In yang qiao mai disease there is tightness of the yang side [of the leg] and looseness of the yin side [of the leg]. In yin qiao mai disease there is looseness of the yang side [of the leg] and tension of the yin side [of the leg]. Which makes it yin qiao illness. How would yang qiao intervention help? I think even if the tight SP 6 location makes it seem like a yin qiao illness, the qiao vessels are connected to each other, and working the yin side benefits the whole qiao bed. And the very light press needle Sharon places, or the even lighter toning thread moxa, seem enough for the qiao bed to become stable. Wonder if pregnant women present with a tight yin - loose yang leg? Would people working with pregnant women report? Holmes. So I assume it has the ability to help counter act the rebellious stomach qi in morning sickness. I consider the treatment of Sp 6 to be a symptomatic treatment and the use of Yin Qiao to be the root treatment. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 As Maria Muldour once sang, " it ain't the meat, it's the motion " . On Mar 24, 2005, at 11:43 PM, heylaurag wrote: > > Hi Sharon and all, > > I wonder why we are always told that Sp 6 is contraindicated in > pregnancy when so many practitioners seem to use it safely? Any > thoughts anyone? > > Laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 Well Zev, I think this is right. Because Sp 6 is also the point to use to encourage delivery using direct grain/half grain size moxa, but when the time is right, ie in the delivery birthing suite etc. So the motion at one stage of pregnancy is quite different to the motion at another stage of pregnancy... if I got your drift?!? Best wishes, [zrosenbe] Saturday, 26 March 2005 2:33 AM Chinese Medicine Re: Re: Morning sickness As Maria Muldour once sang, " it ain't the meat, it's the motion " . On Mar 24, 2005, at 11:43 PM, heylaurag wrote: > > Hi Sharon and all, > > I wonder why we are always told that Sp 6 is contraindicated in > pregnancy when so many practitioners seem to use it safely? Any > thoughts anyone? > > Laura http://babel.altavista.com/ and adjust accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 I had horrible pregnancies like that too. I also took Phenergan and the only thing it seemed to do was knock me out so I didn't know I was sick. My Dr told me to take one Unisom sleep pill at night, it has Bendectin in it, which was a prescription drug that they used to give pregnant women for morning sickness. That helped a lot. I took it throughout three pregnancies, through the entire pregnancies. Also, she needs fluids. You can die from dehydration very quickly. I know this because I waited and was told at the hospital that if I had waited two more days, I would have died from it. Have her go the ER for IV fluids. It also makes you feel better and then you are able to at least keep some fluids down, I am not sure why but it does have that affect. I ended up having an IV stand hooked up at home and then had to switch the IV fluid bags on my own for quite a while. Have her aske her Dr about the Unisom sleep aid to make sure that he says it is ok. BTW all of my kids are perfectly normal, so the Unisom didn't have any bad effects on any of my children. They sometimes take drugs off of the market for dumb reasons as I am sure you know and then people that REALLY need them suffer because of it. Good luck and I hope she gets to feeling better. I know only too well what it is like to throw up so much that you loose weight and can't even function or get up to go to the bathroom without someone helping you. It is very miserable!...Mama > Message: 1 > Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:21:09 EDT > cowluver01 > Need help with morning sickness > > Does anyone have a suggestion or know of something > that my daughter can > take. She is pregnant with her first baby and is > very very very sick....Her > doctor keeps telling her that there is nothing they > can give her........he did > give her some pneagrean......but it has not > helped......she is vomiting all > day and most of the night........I know there has to > be something natural that > will help......Thanks in advance for all your > help...... > > Linda > > > [This message contained attachments] > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > > ********************************************* > Peacefulmind.com Sponsors Alternative Answers- > > HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of HOLISTIC > HEALTH. Preventative and Curative measure to take > for many ailments at: > http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments.htm > __________ > > -To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy > and paste this address in an email to them: > http://www.health./subs_invite > > > _________ > To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative > Answers please Go to: > > http://www.health./links > > ___________ > > Post message: > Subscribe: > - > Un: > - > List owner: > -owner > _______ > Shortcut URL to this page: > > http://www.health. > ------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 Has she tried the Chinese acupressure bracelet? It puts continuous pressure on a point that helps with nausea. Many pregnant women have found it helpful. The most common vitamin deficiency linked with excessive vomiting in pregnancy is B6. Most common herb of course is ginger. Good luck! Ien in the Kootenays*************************Healing Body, Mind and Planetwith Wild Whole Foodshttp://wildhealing.net************************* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 Hello, I believe it's the B6 vitamin that does that. But don't worry, not everyone has morning sickness - I didn't. I have just posted an article to the files on the groups website, that was written by Doc's wife, Valorie Shillington: "How to have a healthy baby". Have a read of that - excellent advice! love Lisa - atesixsevenfivethreeonine herbal remedies Sunday, August 14, 2005 3:53 AM Herbal Remedies - Morning Sickness I was just wondering if there are any herbs or herb tea that would prevent morning sickness, or at least make it not so bad.My wife isn't pregnant yet, but I hate the thought of her having to go through that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 ginger is good, so ginger snaps help. whole foods even sells really good organic gingersnaps. my sister who hates ginger and ginger snaps loved them. raspberry tea helps me, though some would say that if she has a history of miscarriage to avoid it. traditional medicinals makes a really good pregnancy tea. there is also a belly rub that I found and duplicated made with a base of cocoa butter. it has peppermint leaves, fennel nettle and peppermint EO. this website also has a lot of good ideas, but as with anything, i would research it before i take it. for example, wild yam contains progesterone, and while that is excellent for curing morning sickness, if you quit taking it during the first trimester the drop in progesterone could cause a miscarriage. also i was under the understanding that peach leaves can be poisenous. (there are several very benificial herbs that fall into this category btw.) http://www.motherlove.com/faq_morningsickness.php Ramona Quoting atesixsevenfivethreeonine <rtt1969: > I was just wondering if there are any herbs or herb tea that would > prevent morning sickness, or at least make it not so bad. > > My wife isn't pregnant yet, but I hate the thought of her having to go > through that. > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural > remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from > list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members > free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 >I was just wondering if there are any herbs or herb tea that would > prevent morning sickness, or at least make it not so bad. > > My wife isn't pregnant yet, but I hate the thought of her having to go > through that. Some women find relief by drinking Ginger Ale or Ginger tea. Ginger is supposed to help with nausea of any kind. Also, keeping some crackers beside the bed, and eating a couple BEFORE rising from bed, sometimes also helps keep the stomach a little calmer. Best of luck to you and your wife! Candy -- Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.7/70 - Release 8/11/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 Oh, that reminds me: when I was pregnant, I was advised to eat a little protein before getting out of bed, such as cheese. As I said, I never got the morning sickness; possibly it could be because I had the protein - I'm not sure. love Lisa - C. Lucas herbal remedies Sunday, August 14, 2005 6:15 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Morning SicknessAlso, keeping some crackers beside the bed, and eating a couple BEFORE rising from bed, sometimes also helps keep the stomach a little calmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Dear Mary, You may try the following prescriptions (less points and gentle technique) : General : RN12, ST36, PC6, SP4 ST Def : UB20, UB21 LR Heat : LR3, GB34 Damp and Phlegm : SP9, ST40 Regards, Mehdi Hashemi " acumary " <acumary Chinese Traditional Medicine ; VAAOM Wednesday, November 8, 2006 4:34:51 PM Morning sickness Hi Everyone, Next week I will be seeing a 33 yr-old woman who is in her first trimester with her second child and suffering terribly with morning sickness. Does anyone have any suggestions that they have found to be effective? . Many thanks, Mary Chamberlain, L.Ac. M.S. 518-798-8899 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Dear Mary, some weeks ago I had a woman with severe morning sickness. She had been hospitalized for one week for dehydration. She was still feeling extremely nauseous when she came to me. She felt better after two treatments, and was discharged after four treatments. Just very simple acupuncture on PC6, CV12 and ST36. No herbs- she had previously taken herbs from me for her fertility treatment but couldn't stand the smell with her hyperemesis gravidarum. Except for ginger, which I recommended as a tea or in the kitchen. I wrote up a small article on the topic here http://chinese-geneeskunde be/00subs_details.php?object_ID=919 It is in Dutch, but the links take you to pages on the topic of morning sickness. Best regards, Tom. ---- acumary 11/08/06 17:31:50 Chinese Traditional Medicine ; VAAOM Morning sickness Hi Everyone, Next week I will be seeing a 33 yr-old woman who is in her first trimester with her second child and suffering terribly with morning sickness. Does anyone have any suggestions that they have found to be effective? . Many thanks, Mary Chamberlain, L.Ac. M.S. 518-798-8899 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Hi Sharon, Thank you so much for you suggestions - of course you are totally right - I was just trying to be a bit more prepared before I saw the women as I don't tend to treat pregnant women where I live. I haven't met her or done a differential diagnosis yet- But, I wanted to be sure to have herbs or oils on hand just in case - I have to say that everyone has been so kind and so very generous with suggestions that I feel truly prepared and ultimately more confident than I started out. I let you know what happens. Many thanks, Mary Chamberlain, L.Ac. M.S. 518-798-8899 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Hi Mary, I appreciate the suggestions of some of our practitioners but what about differential diagnosis? It really does make a difference. Isn't that the heart and soul of our medicine? Plus what happens when you try the " protocol " on a woman and it doesn't work? Thanks Mehdi Hashemi for taking this into account. In my practice some women have Qi deficiency/cold/damp and respond to ginger but many women suffer from depressive heat and/or yin vacuity in which case the " protocols " would not work and ginger would make things worse. I have found that, especially when the hyperemesis is severe there is Yin vacuity of the stomach and kidney. In this case I use Kidney 6, 16 and 27 as well as bladder 23 and CV 12. But, just because it is severe does not mean it is this pattern. Hope this helps, Sharon Sharon Weizenbaum 86 Henry Street Amherst, MA 01002 413-549-4021 sweiz www.whitepinehealingarts.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Tom: Thanks for the simple points. Was your patient beyond the 1st trimester. Do you get concerned about PC6 when they are. Do you needle gently at that point. Anne -------------- Original message ---------------------- " Tom Verhaeghe " <tom.verhaeghe > > Dear Mary, > > some weeks ago I had a woman with severe morning sickness. She had been > hospitalized for one week for dehydration. She was still feeling extremely > nauseous when she came to me. She felt better after two treatments, and was > discharged after four treatments. Just very simple acupuncture on PC6, CV12 > and ST36. No herbs- she had previously taken herbs from me for her fertility > treatment but couldn't stand the smell with her hyperemesis gravidarum. > Except for ginger, which I recommended as a tea or in the kitchen. > I wrote up a small article on the topic here http://chinese-geneeskunde > be/00subs_details.php?object_ID=919 It is in Dutch, but the links take you > to pages on the topic of morning sickness. > > Best regards, > > Tom. > > ---- > > acumary > 11/08/06 17:31:50 > Chinese Traditional Medicine ; VAAOM > Morning sickness > > Hi Everyone, > > Next week I will be seeing a 33 yr-old woman who is in her first trimester > with her second child and suffering terribly with morning sickness. Does > anyone have any suggestions that they have found to be effective? . > > Many thanks, > > Mary Chamberlain, L.Ac. M.S. > 518-798-8899 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Hi Anne: my patient was still in her first trimester. She had a history of miscarriage so we were very cautious about what we did. I used very gentle needling on her because she was extremely weakened due to her dehydration, on top of a kidney and spleen yang vacuity. I would select PC6 when they are over the first trimester when the symptoms justify its use. She started eating right after the first treatment, and recovered quite quickly. A yin vacuity pattern would need another treatment, as Sharon suggested. Although I would probably still include ST36 and PC6 even in a yin vacuity protocol, as a symptomatic treatment. Regards, Tom. ---- anne.crowley 11/09/06 15:20:58 Chinese Medicine Re: Morning sickness Tom: Thanks for the simple points. Was your patient beyond the 1st trimester. Do you get concerned about PC6 when they are. Do you needle gently at that point. Anne Recent Activity 3New Members 1New Links Visit Your Group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Yes, women can get carpal tunnel after the first trimester, when PC 6 is contraindicated. Some practitioners use it anyway. I appears you would if necessary. Thanks, Anne -------------- Original message ---------------------- " Tom Verhaeghe " <tom.verhaeghe > > Hi Anne: > > my patient was still in her first trimester. She had a history of > miscarriage so we were very cautious about what we did. I used very gentle > needling on her because she was extremely weakened due to her dehydration, > on top of a kidney and spleen yang vacuity. > I would select PC6 when they are over the first trimester when the symptoms > justify its use. > She started eating right after the first treatment, and recovered quite > quickly. A yin vacuity pattern would need another treatment, as Sharon > suggested. Although I would probably still include ST36 and PC6 even in a > yin vacuity protocol, as a symptomatic treatment. > > Regards, > > Tom. > ---- > > anne.crowley > 11/09/06 15:20:58 > Chinese Medicine > Re: Morning sickness > > Tom: > > Thanks for the simple points. Was your patient beyond the 1st trimester. Do > you get concerned about PC6 when they are. Do you needle gently at that > point. > > Anne > Recent Activity > 3New Members > 1New Links > Visit Your Group > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Acupuncture and herbs aside, I have found that the travel sickness bands which are worn on the wrist and press on Neiguan, PC6, to be very effective for morning sickness. Regards, Lea. Chinese Medicine , Gitavarz Tech Corp <gitavarz wrote: > > Dear Mary, > > You may try the following prescriptions (less points and gentle technique) : > > General : RN12, ST36, PC6, SP4 > > ST Def : UB20, UB21 > > LR Heat : LR3, GB34 > > Damp and Phlegm : SP9, ST40 > > > Regards, > Mehdi Hashemi > > > > > > " acumary " <acumary > Chinese Traditional Medicine ; VAAOM > Wednesday, November 8, 2006 4:34:51 PM > Morning sickness > > Hi Everyone, > > Next week I will be seeing a 33 yr-old woman who is in her first trimester > with her second child and suffering terribly with morning sickness. Does > anyone have any suggestions that they have found to be effective? . > > Many thanks, > > Mary Chamberlain, L.Ac. M.S. > 518-798-8899 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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