high fructose corn syrup

[Guest guest]

Ooops, I was about to tell you all that the FDA said that HFCS is not natural but I seem to be a little late. I would be correct though. The FDA did say that HFCS is not natural but it looks like they changed there mind. They now say that it is natural "because the enzymes are fixed to a column and do not actually mix with the starch." I wonder what really did make them change there mind? See why I don't really trust the government to run my personal life. This is why I am for limited government.

 

source: http://www.foodnavigator-usa.com/Financial-Industry/HFCS-is-natural-says-FDA-in-a-letter

 

 

Love,

The Oklahoma Tomcat

http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/My : jonesfamilyhomestead/--------I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn'tmean they do.

- Meredith

Monday, September 22, 2008 2:08 PM

Re: [RFSL] High Fructose Corn Syrup

I cant believe this! I havent seen the commercials and not sure I want to. Unfortunately people will believe a lot of bull! What I still cant believe is how they get away with it as 'natural.' Its clearly not! They process it, change the molecules, add enzymes, etc etc. If its not the way it is found, it not NATURAL, IMO! The FDA definition sucks in my opinion and if people dont know the definition they see 'natural' and think they are getting something good for them. Sad that we depend on the government to define things for us."High fructose corn syrup is considered a natural food ingredient under the U.S. Food and Drug Administration's definition of the term "natural." Under FDA rules, "natural" means that "nothing artificial or synthetic (including all color additives regardless of source) has been included in, or has been added to, a food that would not normally be expected to be in the food." (2)"Now I'm too fired up to be nice. ;o)Meredith , S <SewSweetMommy wrote:>> OMG,> I saw one of these commercials for the first time today too and it ENRAGED> me, lol. What I love is how they stress it's fine in moderation....what> they fail to mention is how many common foods we eat EVERYDAY contain HFCS> and that you will need to go out of your way to avoid & moderate it!!!! I> agree that they are trying to "calm" the public's sudden interest in HFCS,> just like they didn't do with rBST in hopes of avoiding a change in people's> buying habits.> > Shan> > On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Michelle <suprmommy wrote:> > > Ok so I was watching TV and a commercial came on. It was 2 women> > talking. One said something about how bad high fructose corn syrup and the> > other lady.. defending it. My jaw hit the ground! Then they said to check> > out sweetsuprises.com for more information on how good HFCS is! I couldn't> > believe it!> >> > We fought rBST milk and now a lot of people are fighting HFCS... now they> > are fighting back!> >> > --> > ~~~~Being a full-time mother is one of the highest salaried jobs... since> > the payment is pure love~~~~> > > >> > > > -- > > > ~~~ "Success is liking yourself, liking what you do, and liking how you do> it" - Maya Angelou~~~>---"Let food be your medicine" Hippocrates

[Guest guest]

Here is a link to the Mercola articles on HFCS. There is NOTHING natural or innocent about HFCS, NOTHING that enhances our health or well being or longevity. It is TOXIC, and should be avoided at all cost, not consumed in moderation. It goes completely against the very heart of the premise of this group, and one of the reasons I started this group-because people have no idea how destructive and insidious cheap crap like this is. There has been many studies and articles devoted to educating the public about HFCS, but people DON'T LISTEN.

 

It is not possible to "make HFCS out to be more worse than it really is." HFCS is at the core of what is wrong with our modern food supply, along with a couple of other things. I suggest you do further reading, if you really think HFCS is not bad for you.

 

Cyndi

 

http://search.mercola.com/Results.aspx?q=high%20fructose%20corn%20syrup & k=high%20fructose%20corn%20syrup

 

In a message dated 9/21/2008 5:52:59 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jonesfamilyhomestead writes:

 

My first objection to the High Fructose Corn Syrup is the processing it goes through to make. It also has no nutrishional value. It is always better to use sweetners that have nutrishional values to it. But here are some good links.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-fructose_corn_syrup: Wikipedia tells you what High Frutose Corn Syrup is, how it is made and even the Health effects.

 

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/high-fructose-corn-syrup/AN01588: The Mayo Clinic also gives some information on why we should limit High Fructose Corn Syrup but doesn't give a whole lot of reasons on why it is bad.

 

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-fi-soda2-2008aug02,0,1313143.story: Here is an article about why the Corn Refiners Assn. has started the huge marketing campaign.

 

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/08/070823094819.htm: Science Daily talks about the health problems of High Fructose Corn Syrup.

 

While there are many websites and groups that make High Frutose Corn Syrup to be worst then it really is there are creditable health groups and websites that do say that High Frutose Corn Syrup isn't good and it sure isn't natural. There are lots of things that we eat that isn't good for us but the key is to be aware of them and if we do eat them, do it in moderation. Whenever possible, substitute the bad things for the good things. Take care and God Bless.

 

Love,

The Oklahoma Tomcat

http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/My : jonesfamilyhomestead/--------I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn'tmean they do.

- Charisse

Sunday, September 21, 2008 11:59 AM

Re: [RFSL] High Fructose Corn Syrup

Can you give me a link to a great explanation as to why HFCS is so bad (especially for kids.) My hubby doesn't understand.Thanks,Charisse , "The Oklahoma Tomcat" <jonesfamilyhomestead wrote:>> It is funny that they are advertising a website that is parked. Guess they can't make their case on the website. I am curious as to how they can say that HFCS can be good for you. I don't see how. The only sweetners that I see being good are the natural unprocessed sweetners because they carry natural vitamines, minerals and good bacterias that our bodies need. My favorite is local honey and stevia.> > Love,> The Oklahoma Tomcat> http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/> My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/> My : jonesfamilyhomestead/> --------> I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn't

 

Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators.

[Guest guest]

Of course, they see the train wreck ahead, and are doing anything they can to avoid the disaster. Just think what would happen if people refused to buy products containing HFCS. You could not even easily get a loaf of bread. No cereal, no snacks, no soda, basically NOTHING that is a processed, packaged food. And do they add HFCS to products because it is healthy? No, they add it because it is CHEAP, thanks to all those lovely government subsidies.

 

These companies only want to protect their bottom line, not our health. When will people wake up?

 

Cyndi

 

In a message dated 9/21/2008 10:13:02 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, SewSweetMommy writes:

OMG,I saw one of these commercials for the first time today too and it ENRAGED me, lol. What I love is how they stress it's fine in moderation....what they fail to mention is how many common foods we eat EVERYDAY contain HFCS and that you will need to go out of your way to avoid & moderate it!!!! I agree that they are trying to "calm" the public's sudden interest in HFCS, just like they didn't do with rBST in hopes of avoiding a change in people's buying habits. Shan

 

Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators.

[Guest guest]

Unfortunately, the FDA has nothing to do with limited government. They have been made powerful by a series of unconstitutional law amendments, and the current FDA transcends any sort of government accountability. Employees of Big Ag and Big Business have been running the FDA for decades. If there is even more limited government intervention on the FDA, who do you think will regulate and control them? Who regulates them now? No one. They have not been held accountable for anything. The only decisions the FDA makes are ones that benefit Big Ag, Big Pharma, and Big Business. How will limited government change that?Cyndi

 

In a message dated 9/23/2008 4:27:21 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jonesfamilyhomestead writes:

 

 

 

 

 

Ooops, I was about to tell you all that the FDA said that HFCS is not natural but I seem to be a little late. I would be correct though. The FDA did say that HFCS is not natural but it looks like they changed there mind. They now say that it is natural "because the enzymes are fixed to a column and do not actually mix with the starch." I wonder what really did make them change there mind? See why I don't really trust the government to run my personal life. This is why I am for limited government.

 

source: http://www.foodnavigator-usa.com/Financial-Industry/HFCS-is-natural-says-FDA-in-a-letter

 

 

Love,

The Oklahoma Tomcat

http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat

 

Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for bringing it up. I sometimes forget that people just starting to look for ways to eat healthier may not fully understand how toxic HFSC is.

 

Fortunately, HFSC is clearly labeled, unlike MSG, which is disguised under so many pseudonyms it's damn near impossible to find it in a list of ingredients. But look for that to change, as it did with MSG. When people connected the link between MSG and health problems and started avoiding it, the FDA allowed them to hide it in processed foods under any name they chose. I would bet any amount of money they start doing the same thing with HFCS. If everyone avoided packaged foods containing HFCS, many big companies would totally collapse. You might say our whole food supply is centered around HFCS. How sad is that?

 

 

The only way to avoid it is to read labels, and to avoid processed, packaged foods. And yes, that includes fast food and restaurant food too. I don't eat too much bread, but I had to search really hard to find a loaf that did not contain any HFCS and only whole grains. Even so-called heart-healthy bread and those that advertise as zero trans fats, contain HFCS. It is so insidious, you really have to work hard to avoid it.

 

Cyndi

 

In a message dated 9/23/2008 9:53:14 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, suprmommy writes:

Thats why I posted... to help show people. BTW how do you cut it out? I find that almost everything has it in it. I do cut it when I can... but how do I truly avoid it?

 

Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators.

[Guest guest]

Thats why I posted... to help show people. BTW how do you cut it out? I find that almost everything has it in it. I do cut it when I can... but how do I truly avoid it?On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 12:49 PM, <cyndikrall wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here is a link to the Mercola articles on HFCS. There is NOTHING natural or innocent about HFCS, NOTHING that enhances our health or well being or longevity. It is TOXIC, and should be avoided at all cost, not consumed in moderation. It goes completely against the very heart of the premise of this group, and one of the reasons I started this group-because people have no idea how destructive and insidious cheap crap like this is. There has been many studies and articles devoted to educating the public about HFCS, but people DON'T LISTEN.

 

It is not possible to " make HFCS out to be more worse than it really is. " HFCS is at the core of what is wrong with our modern food supply, along with a couple of other things. I suggest you do further reading, if you really think HFCS is not bad for you.

 

Cyndi

 

http://search.mercola.com/Results.aspx?q=high%20fructose%20corn%20syrup & k=high%20fructose%20corn%20syrup

 

In a message dated 9/21/2008 5:52:59 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jonesfamilyhomestead writes:

 

My first objection to the High Fructose Corn Syrup is the processing it goes through to make. It also has no nutrishional value. It is always better to use sweetners that have nutrishional values to it. But here are some good links.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-fructose_corn_syrup: Wikipedia tells you what High Frutose Corn Syrup is, how it is made and even the Health effects.

 

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/high-fructose-corn-syrup/AN01588: The Mayo Clinic also gives some information on why we should limit High Fructose Corn Syrup but doesn't give a whole lot of reasons on why it is bad.

 

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-fi-soda2-2008aug02,0,1313143.story: Here is an article about why the Corn Refiners Assn. has started the huge marketing campaign.

 

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/08/070823094819.htm: Science Daily talks about the health problems of High Fructose Corn Syrup.

 

While there are many websites and groups that make High Frutose Corn Syrup to be worst then it really is there are creditable health groups and websites that do say that High Frutose Corn Syrup isn't good and it sure isn't natural. There are lots of things that we eat that isn't good for us but the key is to be aware of them and if we do eat them, do it in moderation. Whenever possible, substitute the bad things for the good things. Take care and God Bless.

 

Love,

The Oklahoma Tomcat

http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/My : jonesfamilyhomestead/--------

I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn'tmean they do.

- Charisse

Sunday, September 21, 2008 11:59 AM

Re: [RFSL] High Fructose Corn Syrup

Can you give me a link to a great explanation as to why HFCS is so bad (especially for kids.) My hubby doesn't understand.Thanks,Charisse , " The Oklahoma Tomcat " <jonesfamilyhomestead wrote:>> It is funny that they are advertising a website that is parked. Guess they can't make their case on the website. I am curious as to how they can say that HFCS can be good for you. I don't see how. The only sweetners that I see being good are the natural unprocessed sweetners because they carry natural vitamines, minerals and good bacterias that our bodies need. My favorite is local honey and stevia.> > Love,> The Oklahoma Tomcat> http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/> My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/> My : jonesfamilyhomestead/> --------> I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn't

 

 

Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators.

 

 

-- ~~~~Being a full-time mother is one of the highest salaried jobs... since the payment is pure love~~~~

[Guest guest]

I KNOW! I saw the same ad in Wonder magazine at the doctor's

office. So guess what I did - I wrote in large print " LIAR LIAR

LIAR " all over the page and put it back in the doctor office pile. I

felt horrible about " defacing someone else's magazine " but I hate to

think that some young mother is going to believe that filth!!!

 

, Michelle <suprmommy

wrote:

>

> Ok so I was watching TV and a commercial came on. It was 2 women

talking.

> One said something about how bad high fructose corn syrup and the

other

> lady.. defending it. My jaw hit the ground! Then they said to check

out

> sweetsuprises.com for more information on how good HFCS is! I

couldn't

> believe it!

>

> We fought rBST milk and now a lot of people are fighting HFCS...

now they

> are fighting back!

>

> --

> ~~~~Being a full-time mother is one of the highest salaried jobs...

since

> the payment is pure love~~~~

>

[Guest guest]

Its hard Michelle but you truly have to read every label. Stick to

the food in the health market area of your local supermarket & those

are usually a good bet (always verify on the label though).

 

We had a hard time finding bread without HFCS - out of the 50 kinds

offered, ONE didn't have it (one version of Pepperidge Farm but it

had refined flour so it was disappointing). Well, we FOUND ONE.

Target has started to carry all natural bread - four types (white,

wheat, whole grain, multi grain) so we buy that or buy from Whole

Foods. However, I bought some stuff so we can start to make our own

bread - its not hard, tastes fresher and better too!

 

, Michelle <suprmommy

wrote:

>

> Thats why I posted... to help show people.

> BTW how do you cut it out? I find that almost everything has it in

it. I do

> cut it when I can... but how do I truly avoid it?

>

> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 12:49 PM, <cyndikrall wrote:

>

> > *Here is a link to the Mercola articles on HFCS. There is

NOTHING

> > natural or innocent about HFCS, NOTHING that enhances our health

or well

> > being or longevity. It is TOXIC, and should be avoided at all

cost, not

> > consumed in moderation. It goes completely against the very heart

of the

> > premise of this group, and one of the reasons I started this

group-because

> > people have no idea how destructive and insidious cheap crap like

this is.

> > There has been many studies and articles devoted to educating the

public

> > about HFCS, but people DON'T LISTEN. *

> > **

> > *It is not possible to " make HFCS out to be more worse than it

really is. "

> > HFCS is at the core of what is wrong with our modern food supply,

along with

> > a couple of other things. I suggest you do further reading, if

you really

> > think HFCS is not bad for you.*

> > **

> > *Cyndi*

> > **

> > *

> > http://search.mercola.com/Results.aspx?q=high%20fructose%20corn%

20syrup & k=high%20fructose%20corn%20syrup

> > *

> > **

> > In a message dated 9/21/2008 5:52:59 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

> > jonesfamilyhomestead writes:

> >

> > My first objection to the High Fructose Corn Syrup is the

processing it

> > goes through to make. It also has no nutrishional value. It is

always

> > better to use sweetners that have nutrishional values to it. But

here are

> > some good links.

> >

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-fructose_corn_syrup: Wikipedia

tells

> > you what High Frutose Corn Syrup is, how it is made and even the

Health

> > effects.

> >

> > http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/high-fructose-corn-

syrup/AN01588: The

> > Mayo Clinic also gives some information on why we should limit

High Fructose

> > Corn Syrup but doesn't give a whole lot of reasons on why it is

bad.

> >

> >

> > http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-fi-soda2-

2008aug02,0,1313143.story:

> > Here is an article about why the Corn Refiners Assn. has started

the huge

> > marketing campaign.

> >

> > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/08/070823094819.htm:

Science

> > Daily talks about the health problems of High Fructose Corn Syrup.

> >

> > While there are many websites and groups that make High Frutose

Corn Syrup

> > to be worst then it really is there are creditable health groups

and

> > websites that do say that High Frutose Corn Syrup isn't good and

it sure

> > isn't natural. There are lots of things that we eat that isn't

good for us

> > but the key is to be aware of them and if we do eat them, do it in

> > moderation. Whenever possible, substitute the bad things for the

good

> > things. Take care and God Bless.

> >

> > Love,

> > The Oklahoma Tomcat

> > http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/

> > My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/

> > My :

jonesfamilyhomestead/

> > --------

> > I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean

they don't

> > love each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn't

> > mean they do.

> > - ** Charisse <reeseplus2

> > *To:*

> > *Sent:* Sunday, September 21, 2008 11:59 AM

> > *Subject:* Re: [RFSL] High Fructose Corn Syrup

> >

> > Can you give me a link to a great explanation as to why HFCS is so

> > bad (especially for kids.) My hubby doesn't understand.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Charisse

> >

> > , " The Oklahoma Tomcat "

> > <jonesfamilyhomestead@> wrote:

> > >

> > > It is funny that they are advertising a website that is parked.

> > Guess they can't make their case on the website. I am curious as

to

> > how they can say that HFCS can be good for you. I don't see how.

> > The only sweetners that I see being good are the natural

unprocessed

> > sweetners because they carry natural vitamines, minerals and good

> > bacterias that our bodies need. My favorite is local honey and

> > stevia.

> > >

> > > Love,

> > > The Oklahoma Tomcat

> > > http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/

> > > My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/

> > > My :

jonesfamilyhomestead/

> > > --------

> > > I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean

> > they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it

> > doesn't

> >

> > **

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------

> > Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial

challenges? Check

> > out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and

calculators<http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1209382257x1200540

686/aol?redir=http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001>

> > .

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> ~~~~Being a full-time mother is one of the highest salaried jobs...

since

> the payment is pure love~~~~

>

[Guest guest]

I do know HFCS is bad for you. So is processed white surgar, any fruit you buy in the store is bad since it is sprayed, any food you buy in boxes is also bad for you since it is processed. If you buy store canned foods it contains lots of sodiom. If you buy meats from stores it is injected with hormones and fed corn (which isn't good for cows) with chemicals. Buy your children candy? Not good. Sodas are not good for you even if you avoid HFCS because then it either has white processed sugar or the fake stuff.

 

We can't eliminate all bad things from our diets. I feel that our bodies are amazing and able to take a little abuse. Even the physical work we do is abusive to our bodies but we are able to handle it. The best thing is to limit the bad things and try our best to change what we can to the good things. If we look up on the internet all the horrible things we eat I feel lots of people would starve to death. It can become a horror movie when you see all the terrible things our bodies take in. I know people that worry about all this stuff and let me tell you, she hardly eats. It is like the people who clean their homes all the time because they worry about germs and bacteria.

 

I am all for trying to eat as natural as possible. That is why we have a family homestead and try to grow and raise our own foods. I know that I can't eat only things that are natural and healthy unless I grow it all myself or know people locally that does and going to the grocery stores isn't going to be a scary thing for me. I have read lots of creditable websites about HFCS and it looks like the only thing bad about it is that it is linked to diabetes and over wheight when consumed in large quantities. I know it isn't natural and nothing that isn't natural should be limited. Ofcourse we should watch out for natural things too. Not all natural things is good for you.

 

Love,

The Oklahoma Tomcat

http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/My : jonesfamilyhomestead/--------I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn'tmean they do.

- cyndikrall

Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:49 AM

Re: [RFSL] High Fructose Corn Syrup

 

 

Here is a link to the Mercola articles on HFCS. There is NOTHING natural or innocent about HFCS, NOTHING that enhances our health or well being or longevity. It is TOXIC, and should be avoided at all cost, not consumed in moderation. It goes completely against the very heart of the premise of this group, and one of the reasons I started this group-because people have no idea how destructive and insidious cheap crap like this is. There has been many studies and articles devoted to educating the public about HFCS, but people DON'T LISTEN.

 

It is not possible to "make HFCS out to be more worse than it really is." HFCS is at the core of what is wrong with our modern food supply, along with a couple of other things. I suggest you do further reading, if you really think HFCS is not bad for you.

 

Cyndi

 

http://search.mercola.com/Results.aspx?q=high%20fructose%20corn%20syrup & k=high%20fructose%20corn%20syrup

 

In a message dated 9/21/2008 5:52:59 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jonesfamilyhomestead writes:

 

My first objection to the High Fructose Corn Syrup is the processing it goes through to make. It also has no nutrishional value. It is always better to use sweetners that have nutrishional values to it. But here are some good links.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-fructose_corn_syrup: Wikipedia tells you what High Frutose Corn Syrup is, how it is made and even the Health effects.

 

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/high-fructose-corn-syrup/AN01588: The Mayo Clinic also gives some information on why we should limit High Fructose Corn Syrup but doesn't give a whole lot of reasons on why it is bad.

 

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-fi-soda2-2008aug02,0,1313143.story: Here is an article about why the Corn Refiners Assn. has started the huge marketing campaign.

 

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/08/070823094819.htm: Science Daily talks about the health problems of High Fructose Corn Syrup.

 

While there are many websites and groups that make High Frutose Corn Syrup to be worst then it really is there are creditable health groups and websites that do say that High Frutose Corn Syrup isn't good and it sure isn't natural. There are lots of things that we eat that isn't good for us but the key is to be aware of them and if we do eat them, do it in moderation. Whenever possible, substitute the bad things for the good things. Take care and God Bless.

 

Love,

The Oklahoma Tomcat

http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/My : jonesfamilyhomestead/--------I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn'tmean they do.

- Charisse

Sunday, September 21, 2008 11:59 AM

Re: [RFSL] High Fructose Corn Syrup

Can you give me a link to a great explanation as to why HFCS is so bad (especially for kids.) My hubby doesn't understand.Thanks,Charisse , "The Oklahoma Tomcat" <jonesfamilyhomestead wrote:>> It is funny that they are advertising a website that is parked. Guess they can't make their case on the website. I am curious as to how they can say that HFCS can be good for you. I don't see how. The only sweetners that I see being good are the natural unprocessed sweetners because they carry natural vitamines, minerals and good bacterias that our bodies need. My favorite is local honey and stevia.> > Love,> The Oklahoma Tomcat> http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/> My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/> My : jonesfamilyhomestead/> --------> I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn't

 

 

 

 

Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators.

[Guest guest]

Some facts about HFCS:

 

 

Until the 1970s, most sugar was sucrose derived from sugar beets or sugar cane. But sugar from corn, especially high fructose corn syrup (HFCS), is now more popular because it is much less expensive to produce.

It also contains nearly twice the fructose of the sugars that came before it. Between 1980 and 1994, average fructose consumption rose from 39 pounds per year to 83 pounds per year.

 

Fructose contains no enzymes, vitamins or minerals, and it leeches micronutrients from the body. Unbound fructose, found in large quantities in HFCS, can interfere with the heart's use of minerals such as magnesium, copper and chromium.

Fructose also reduces the affinity of insulin for its receptor, which is the principle characteristic of type 2 diabetes.

HFCS has been implicated in elevated blood cholesterol levels, and it has been found to inhibit the action of the immune system's white blood cells.

The consumption of high fructose corn syrup not only exacerbates the obesity epidemic, it also harms organs like your liver and pancreas, leading to bone loss, anemia and heart problems, just to name a few.

Fructose, weight gain and insulin resistance syndrome:

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/76/5/911

HFCS or crystalline fructose or hydrolyzed fructose from inulin, convert to triglycerides and adipose tissue, within 60 minutes of ingestion, not blood glucose -- A FACT.

The cheapest ingredient in the American food chain (profit factor) after air, water and salt is HFCS -- A FACT.

In 1970, zero pounds of HFCS existed in the U.S. food chain, or the SEMANTICALLY legislated equivalent in the EU, 'iso-glucose,' which is High Fructose Wheat Or Beet Syrup. Today HFCS is about 68 pounds per year per person in the USA -- FACT.

In 2005, if one looks at the actuarial curve on cardiovascular disease, obesity, hypoglycemia, and diabetes, they all parallel HFCS increase in the food chain -- A FACT.

Corn starch converted to a man-made molecule falsely called 'fructose' is NOT sugar from cane or beet or metabolized the same -- A FACT.

The delusion that fructose is an acceptable form of sugar is quite prevalent in many nutritional circles. In fact, nearly all simple sugars are metabolized quickly and disrupt insulin levels, which contributes to most chronic illness. Eating small amounts of whole fruit will not provide tremendous amounts of fructose and should not be a problem for most people, unless diabetes or obesity is an issue but fruit juices, sodas and other beverages sweetened with fructose should be avoided.

To add insult to injury, the corn that the high fructose corn syrup is metabolized from nearly all comes from genetically modified corn which is fraught with its own well documented side effects and health concerns.

High fructose corn syrup is is not something that should be in your diet at all. But HFCS is the primary caloric sweetener in U.S. soft drinks. Researchers estimate that most Americans eat 132 calories of HFCS per day, while the top 20 percent of sweetener consumers eat over 300. And some, they say, eat as much as 700 calories per day of HFCS.

Sodas, of course, are not the only source of HFCS (though they represent one of the main ones). This dangerous sweetener is also in many processed foods and fruit juices, so to avoid it you need to focus your diet on whole foods and, if you do purchase packaged foods, become an avid label reader.

Elevated insulin levels are the foundation of nearly every chronic disease, including:

 

Cancer Heart disease Diabetes Premature aging Arthritis Osteoporosis

 

High Fructose Corn Syrup Does NOT Metabolize in the Same Way as Sugar

HFCS is a highly processed product that contains similar amounts of unbound fructose and glucose. Sucrose, on the other hand, is a larger sugar molecule that is metabolized into glucose and fructose in your intestine.

Part of what makes HFCS such an unhealthy product is that it is metabolized to fat in your body far more rapidly than any other sugar, and, because most fructose is consumed in liquid form, its negative metabolic effects are significantly magnified.

Whereas the glucose in other sugars is used by your body, and is converted to blood glucose, fructose is a relatively unregulated source of fuel that your liver converts to fat and cholesterol.

There are over 35 years of hard empirical evidence that refined man-made fructose like high fructose corn syrup metabolizes to triglycerides and adipose tissue, not blood glucose. The downside of this is that fructose does not stimulate your insulin secretion, nor enhance leptin production. (Leptin is a hormone thought to be involved in appetite regulation.)

Because insulin and leptin act as key signals in regulating how much food you eat, as well as your body weight, this suggests that dietary fructose may contribute to increased food intake and weight gain.

Additionally, fructose is also known to significantly raise your triglycerides and LDL (bad cholesterol).

Triglycerides, the chemical form of fat found in foods and in your body, are not something you want in excess amounts. Intense research over the past 40 years has confirmed that elevated blood levels of triglycerides, known as hypertriglyceridemia, puts you at an increased risk of heart disease.

New Evidence That HFCS Contributes to Development of Diabetes

Recent research, reported at the 2007 national meeting of the American Chemical Society, found new evidence that soft drinks sweetened with HFCS may contribute to the development of diabetes because it contains high levels of reactive compounds that have been shown by others to trigger cell and tissue damage that cause diabetes.

Chemical tests among 11 different carbonated soft drinks containing HFCS were found to have ‘astonishingly high’ levels of reactive carbonyls. Reactive carbonyls are undesirable and highly-reactive compounds associated with “unbound†fructose and glucose molecules, and are believed to cause tissue damage.

By contrast, reactive carbonyls are not present in table sugar because its fructose and glucose components are “bound†and chemically stable.

Reactive carbonyls are elevated in the blood of individuals with diabetes and are linked to the health complications of diabetes. Based on the study data, the researchers estimate that a single can of soda contains about five times the concentration of reactive carbonyls than the concentration found in the blood of an adult person with diabetes.

Fructose Depletes Your Body of Enzymes, Vitamins or Minerals

Fructose also does not contain any enzymes, vitamins or minerals so it takes these micronutrients from your body while it assimilates itself for use.

Unbound fructose, found in large quantities in HFCS, can interfere with your heart's use of minerals such as magnesium, copper and chromium.

This does not mean you should avoid whole fruit, however, as it contains natural fructose together with the enzymes, vitamins and minerals needed for your body to assimilate the fructose. Eating small amounts of whole fruit also does not provide a tremendous amount of fructose, and is not likely to be a problem for most people unless diabetes or obesity is an issue.

Did You Know? -- Most HFCS is Made From Genetically Modified Corn

Adding insult to injury, HFCS is almost always made from genetically modified corn, which is fraught with its own well documented side effects and health concerns. GMO corn will radically increase your risk of developing corn food allergies. The problem with corn allergies are that once you have a corn allergy from GMO corn you will have an allergy to even healthy organic corn products.

The Bottom Line

Sodas, of course, are not the only source of HFCS (though they represent one of the main ones). This dangerous sweetener is also in many processed foods and fruit juices, so to avoid it you need to focus your diet on whole foods and, if you do purchase packaged foods, become an avid label reader.

But if you want to drastically improve your health, the answer is plain and simple. To lose weight and reduce your risk of developing metabolic syndrome, diabetes, and heart disease, STOP drinking soda and processed fruit juices that are sweetened with about eight teaspoons of fructose per serving!

Switch to pure water as your beverage of choice and you will be well on your way to better health.

However, like most areas in life, when presented with two poisons, choose carefully.

Even though HFCS is clearly something you want to avoid, it is not as bad as artificial sweeteners, which damage your health even more rapidly than HFCS. So ideally, you’ll want to avoid ALL sodas, but if you have to choose between soda sweetened with HFCS (regular soda) or artificial sweeteners (diet soda), choose HFCS.

The best and safest sweetener (although illegal to use according to the FDA) would be the herb stevia.

 

In a message dated 9/24/2008 10:21:57 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, suprmommy writes:

I knew HFCS was bad but mostly because I was told it was. I figured it was linked to cancer or something. So what does HFCS do to your body? It the biggest problems diabetes and obesity? Not that those aren't important but I wouldn't think there would be such a crusade against it if that was it. I just want to know what makes it bad other then it not being natural. I am not as "natural" and some people on the board but I do what I can. I make the changes I can but I have to admit... I am not 100 percent on anything. So what is it about HFCS?

 

Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators.

[Guest guest]

Yes, it doesn't seem like a little bit of HFCS would be a big deal, but the thing is, it's in EVERYTHING. Corn is a grain, not a vegetable. HFSC has effects on the body similar to those of eating grains. Our bodies are assaulted by toxins from every angle. Even the meat we eat is corn fed. Bees are fed HFCS. Any packaged food you buy is likely to contain HFSC. When you add all that HFCS intake up, and take into account all the other toxic factors, it not only makes for obesity, but a sick society.

 

It's very naive to conclude a little HFSC won't hurt you. It WILL hurt you. It's one more thing that places an unnecessary burden on our already over burdened livers, and if nothing else, that should scare people.

 

Cyndi

 

In a message dated 9/24/2008 12:52:04 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, suprmommy writes:

Thanks. I knew there had to me a little more to it!

 

Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators.

[Guest guest]

I didn't know that about children with autism. Thanks for educating us.

 

Cyndi

 

In a message dated 9/24/2008 1:38:42 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, donnabzy writes:

Another thing is that many children with autism have gut issues, and intolerances to foods that exacerbate their health issues and behaviors, corn being one of those foods. HFCS is of course, made from corn, and in SO many things. One thing to also consider is that it's in many fast/convenient food products, which should be a red flag in itself.

 

Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators.

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Tomcat. I was quite frustrated with your first

paragraph. Society makes it quite difficult to conveniently eat

right, but found the other two paragraphs more comforting. I found

the same answer about HFCS (my original post), diabetes, and

obesity. That won't be happening in our house but it isn't one of my

biggest concerns. So, thanks everyone for the links and responses.

 

Charisse

 

, " The Oklahoma Tomcat "

<jonesfamilyhomestead wrote:

>

> I do know HFCS is bad for you. So is processed white surgar, any

fruit you buy in the store is bad since it is sprayed, any food you

buy in boxes is also bad for you since it is processed. If you buy

store canned foods it contains lots of sodiom. If you buy meats from

stores it is injected with hormones and fed corn (which isn't good

for cows) with chemicals. Buy your children candy? Not good. Sodas

are not good for you even if you avoid HFCS because then it either

has white processed sugar or the fake stuff.

>

> We can't eliminate all bad things from our diets. I feel that our

bodies are amazing and able to take a little abuse. Even the

physical work we do is abusive to our bodies but we are able to

handle it. The best thing is to limit the bad things and try our

best to change what we can to the good things. If we look up on the

internet all the horrible things we eat I feel lots of people would

starve to death. It can become a horror movie when you see all the

terrible things our bodies take in. I know people that worry about

all this stuff and let me tell you, she hardly eats. It is like the

people who clean their homes all the time because they worry about

germs and bacteria.

>

> I am all for trying to eat as natural as possible. That is why we

have a family homestead and try to grow and raise our own foods. I

know that I can't eat only things that are natural and healthy unless

I grow it all myself or know people locally that does and going to

the grocery stores isn't going to be a scary thing for me. I have

read lots of creditable websites about HFCS and it looks like the

only thing bad about it is that it is linked to diabetes and over

wheight when consumed in large quantities. I know it isn't natural

and nothing that isn't natural should be limited. Ofcourse we should

watch out for natural things too. Not all natural things is good for

you.

>

> Love,

> The Oklahoma Tomcat

> http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/

> My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/

> My : jonesfamilyhomestead/

> --------

> I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean

they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it

doesn't

> mean they do.

>

[Guest guest]

I knew HFCS was bad but mostly because I was told it was. I figured it was linked to cancer or something. So what does HFCS do to your body? It the biggest problems diabetes and obesity? Not that those aren't important but I wouldn't think there would be such a crusade against it if that was it. I just want to know what makes it bad other then it not being natural.

I am not as " natural " and some people on the board but I do what I can. I make the changes I can but I have to admit... I am not 100 percent on anything. So what is it about HFCS?

On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Charisse <reeseplus2 wrote:

 

 

 

 

Thank you, Tomcat. I was quite frustrated with your first

paragraph. Society makes it quite difficult to conveniently eat

right, but found the other two paragraphs more comforting. I found

the same answer about HFCS (my original post), diabetes, and

obesity. That won't be happening in our house but it isn't one of my

biggest concerns. So, thanks everyone for the links and responses.

 

Charisse

 

, " The Oklahoma Tomcat "

<jonesfamilyhomestead wrote:

>

> I do know HFCS is bad for you. So is processed white surgar, any

fruit you buy in the store is bad since it is sprayed, any food you

buy in boxes is also bad for you since it is processed. If you buy

store canned foods it contains lots of sodiom. If you buy meats from

stores it is injected with hormones and fed corn (which isn't good

for cows) with chemicals. Buy your children candy? Not good. Sodas

are not good for you even if you avoid HFCS because then it either

has white processed sugar or the fake stuff.

>

> We can't eliminate all bad things from our diets. I feel that our

bodies are amazing and able to take a little abuse. Even the

physical work we do is abusive to our bodies but we are able to

handle it. The best thing is to limit the bad things and try our

best to change what we can to the good things. If we look up on the

internet all the horrible things we eat I feel lots of people would

starve to death. It can become a horror movie when you see all the

terrible things our bodies take in. I know people that worry about

all this stuff and let me tell you, she hardly eats. It is like the

people who clean their homes all the time because they worry about

germs and bacteria.

>

> I am all for trying to eat as natural as possible. That is why we

have a family homestead and try to grow and raise our own foods. I

know that I can't eat only things that are natural and healthy unless

I grow it all myself or know people locally that does and going to

the grocery stores isn't going to be a scary thing for me. I have

read lots of creditable websites about HFCS and it looks like the

only thing bad about it is that it is linked to diabetes and over

wheight when consumed in large quantities. I know it isn't natural

and nothing that isn't natural should be limited. Ofcourse we should

watch out for natural things too. Not all natural things is good for

you.

>

> Love,

> The Oklahoma Tomcat

> http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/

> My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/

> My : jonesfamilyhomestead/

> --------

> I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean

they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it

doesn't

> mean they do.

>

 

 

 

 

-- ~~~~Being a full-time mother is one of the highest salaried jobs... since the payment is pure love~~~~

[Guest guest]

The consumption of high fructose corn syrup not only exacerbates the obesity epidemic, it also harms organs like your liver and pancreas, leading to bone loss, anemia and heart problems, just to name a few.Thanks. I knew there had to me a little more to it!On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 3:40 PM, <cyndikrall wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Some facts about HFCS:

 

 

Until the 1970s, most sugar was sucrose derived from sugar beets or sugar cane. But sugar from corn, especially high fructose corn syrup (HFCS), is now more popular because it is much less expensive to produce.

It also contains nearly twice the fructose of the sugars that came before it. Between 1980 and 1994, average fructose consumption rose from 39 pounds per year to 83 pounds per year.

 

Fructose contains no enzymes, vitamins or minerals, and it leeches micronutrients from the body. Unbound fructose, found in large quantities in HFCS, can interfere with the heart's use of minerals such as magnesium, copper and chromium.

Fructose also reduces the affinity of insulin for its receptor, which is the principle characteristic of type 2 diabetes.

HFCS has been implicated in elevated blood cholesterol levels, and it has been found to inhibit the action of the immune system's white blood cells.

The consumption of high fructose corn syrup not only exacerbates the obesity epidemic, it also harms organs like your liver and pancreas, leading to bone loss, anemia and heart problems, just to name a few.

Fructose, weight gain and insulin resistance syndrome:

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/76/5/911

HFCS or crystalline fructose or hydrolyzed fructose from inulin, convert to triglycerides and adipose tissue, within 60 minutes of ingestion, not blood glucose -- A FACT.

The cheapest ingredient in the American food chain (profit factor) after air, water and salt is HFCS -- A FACT.

In 1970, zero pounds of HFCS existed in the U.S. food chain, or the SEMANTICALLY legislated equivalent in the EU, 'iso-glucose,' which is High Fructose Wheat Or Beet Syrup. Today HFCS is about 68 pounds per year per person in the USA -- FACT.

In 2005, if one looks at the actuarial curve on cardiovascular disease, obesity, hypoglycemia, and diabetes, they all parallel HFCS increase in the food chain -- A FACT.

Corn starch converted to a man-made molecule falsely called 'fructose' is NOT sugar from cane or beet or metabolized the same -- A FACT.

The delusion that fructose is an acceptable form of sugar is quite prevalent in many nutritional circles. In fact, nearly all simple sugars are metabolized quickly and disrupt insulin levels, which contributes to most chronic illness. Eating small amounts of whole fruit will not provide tremendous amounts of fructose and should not be a problem for most people, unless diabetes or obesity is an issue but fruit juices, sodas and other beverages sweetened with fructose should be avoided.

To add insult to injury, the corn that the high fructose corn syrup is metabolized from nearly all comes from genetically modified corn which is fraught with its own well documented side effects and health concerns.

High fructose corn syrup is is not something that should be in your diet at all. But HFCS is the primary caloric sweetener in U.S. soft drinks. Researchers estimate that most Americans eat 132 calories of HFCS per day, while the top 20 percent of sweetener consumers eat over 300. And some, they say, eat as much as 700 calories per day of HFCS.

Sodas, of course, are not the only source of HFCS (though they represent one of the main ones). This dangerous sweetener is also in many processed foods and fruit juices, so to avoid it you need to focus your diet on whole foods and, if you do purchase packaged foods, become an avid label reader.

Elevated insulin levels are the foundation of nearly every chronic disease, including:

 

Cancer Heart disease Diabetes Premature aging Arthritis Osteoporosis

 

High Fructose Corn Syrup Does NOT Metabolize in the Same Way as Sugar

HFCS is a highly processed product that contains similar amounts of unbound fructose and glucose. Sucrose, on the other hand, is a larger sugar molecule that is metabolized into glucose and fructose in your intestine.

Part of what makes HFCS such an unhealthy product is that it is metabolized to fat in your body far more rapidly than any other sugar, and, because most fructose is consumed in liquid form, its negative metabolic effects are significantly magnified.

Whereas the glucose in other sugars is used by your body, and is converted to blood glucose, fructose is a relatively unregulated source of fuel that your liver converts to fat and cholesterol.

There are over 35 years of hard empirical evidence that refined man-made fructose like high fructose corn syrup metabolizes to triglycerides and adipose tissue, not blood glucose. The downside of this is that fructose does not stimulate your insulin secretion, nor enhance leptin production. (Leptin is a hormone thought to be involved in appetite regulation.)

Because insulin and leptin act as key signals in regulating how much food you eat, as well as your body weight, this suggests that dietary fructose may contribute to increased food intake and weight gain.

Additionally, fructose is also known to significantly raise your triglycerides and LDL (bad cholesterol).

Triglycerides, the chemical form of fat found in foods and in your body, are not something you want in excess amounts. Intense research over the past 40 years has confirmed that elevated blood levels of triglycerides, known as hypertriglyceridemia, puts you at an increased risk of heart disease.

New Evidence That HFCS Contributes to Development of Diabetes

Recent research, reported at the 2007 national meeting of the American Chemical Society, found new evidence that soft drinks sweetened with HFCS may contribute to the development of diabetes because it contains high levels of reactive compounds that have been shown by others to trigger cell and tissue damage that cause diabetes.

Chemical tests among 11 different carbonated soft drinks containing HFCS were found to have 'astonishingly high' levels of reactive carbonyls. Reactive carbonyls are undesirable and highly-reactive compounds associated with "unbound" fructose and glucose molecules, and are believed to cause tissue damage.

By contrast, reactive carbonyls are not present in table sugar because its fructose and glucose components are "bound" and chemically stable.

Reactive carbonyls are elevated in the blood of individuals with diabetes and are linked to the health complications of diabetes. Based on the study data, the researchers estimate that a single can of soda contains about five times the concentration of reactive carbonyls than the concentration found in the blood of an adult person with diabetes.

Fructose Depletes Your Body of Enzymes, Vitamins or Minerals

Fructose also does not contain any enzymes, vitamins or minerals so it takes these micronutrients from your body while it assimilates itself for use.

Unbound fructose, found in large quantities in HFCS, can interfere with your heart's use of minerals such as magnesium, copper and chromium.

This does not mean you should avoid whole fruit, however, as it contains natural fructose together with the enzymes, vitamins and minerals needed for your body to assimilate the fructose. Eating small amounts of whole fruit also does not provide a tremendous amount of fructose, and is not likely to be a problem for most people unless diabetes or obesity is an issue.

Did You Know? -- Most HFCS is Made From Genetically Modified Corn

Adding insult to injury, HFCS is almost always made from genetically modified corn, which is fraught with its own well documented side effects and health concerns. GMO corn will radically increase your risk of developing corn food allergies. The problem with corn allergies are that once you have a corn allergy from GMO corn you will have an allergy to even healthy organic corn products.

The Bottom Line

Sodas, of course, are not the only source of HFCS (though they represent one of the main ones). This dangerous sweetener is also in many processed foods and fruit juices, so to avoid it you need to focus your diet on whole foods and, if you do purchase packaged foods, become an avid label reader.

But if you want to drastically improve your health, the answer is plain and simple. To lose weight and reduce your risk of developing metabolic syndrome, diabetes, and heart disease, STOP drinking soda and processed fruit juices that are sweetened with about eight teaspoons of fructose per serving!

Switch to pure water as your beverage of choice and you will be well on your way to better health.

However, like most areas in life, when presented with two poisons, choose carefully.

Even though HFCS is clearly something you want to avoid, it is not as bad as artificial sweeteners, which damage your health even more rapidly than HFCS. So ideally, you'll want to avoid ALL sodas, but if you have to choose between soda sweetened with HFCS (regular soda) or artificial sweeteners (diet soda), choose HFCS.

The best and safest sweetener (although illegal to use according to the FDA) would be the herb stevia.

 

In a message dated 9/24/2008 10:21:57 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, suprmommy writes:

I knew HFCS was bad but mostly because I was told it was. I figured it was linked to cancer or something. So what does HFCS do to your body? It the biggest problems diabetes and obesity? Not that those aren't important but I wouldn't think there would be such a crusade against it if that was it. I just want to know what makes it bad other then it not being natural. I am not as " natural " and some people on the board but I do what I can. I make the changes I can but I have to admit... I am not 100 percent on anything. So what is it about HFCS?

 

 

Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators.

 

-- ~~~~Being a full-time mother is one of the highest salaried jobs... since the payment is pure love~~~~

[Guest guest]

> I am not as " natural " and some people on the board but I do what I can. I

> make the changes I can but I have to admit... I am not 100 percent on

> anything.

>

> So what is it about HFCS?

 

my objections to HFCS, in addition to its contribution to my trouble

with weight and the difficulty of finding anything without it are

largely ecological.

 

Nearly all corn grown in the US is GMO-targeted against pests and

weeds which are already developing resistance to Bt and roundup ready

corn, so the 'arms race' escalates again. What's the next step going

to be? Meanwhile GMO genes have penetrated wild corn variety reserves

in remote Chiapas Mexico, reducing the potential of being able to go

back to the wild source in the future and find corn genes for

resistance to pests, diseases and adaptation to different climates.

 

Nearly all the corn grown in the US is heavily fertilized, with

fertilizers made from fossil fuels-increasing our carbon load and

increasing soil salinity.

 

Fertilizer runoff annually enters the gulf coast, creating massive

dead zones, destroying marine habitat and causing huge die-offs of

marine life and the livelihoods of fishermen and shrimpers, not to

mention valuable breeding grounds for many species of fish on which we

depend. The size of the dead zone broke a new record this year I

believe.

 

Corn in the upper midwest is watered from the Ogallala aquifer, which

is being unsustainably mined for groundwater. Up to 1/3 of the

reserve has been depleted in the last century and current rates vary,

but probably average, around 3 times more being pulled out than goes

in. Ground water depletion greatly outweighs recharge due to up to 90%

of our midwestern crops being watered from this resource and in part

to

 

Soil erosion due to mechanical tilling-Rocky mountain snow runoff no

longer reaches the aquifer.

 

So, corn is grown on a scale needed to make everything from corn

starch based knitting yarn, alternative fuels (don't get me started on

the choice of corn for that), HFCS and feeding corn to cattle, which

are not able to digest it, thus requiring overuse of antibiotics and

the resulting increase in deadly antibiotic resistant bacteria. It's

a huge pile of a mess.

 

I'd like to see more diversity in our farmbelts. I'd like to see

farmers get what they need to make a living, while inflicting less

damage on the environment. I'd like to see meat production using

pasturing and antibiotics only when needed and people eating less

meat, while enjoying it more. I'd like to see regional varieties of

corn adapted to local water availability.

 

I'd like to see a lot of things. So as much as is possible I avoid

HFCS, corn-starched based yarn, corn fed beef and corn ethanol (go

bio-diesal from algae!).

 

Ellen

btw, my opinions here are distilled from Wikipedia,

waterencyclopedia.com, various writings by Michael Pollen and other

snippets that remain in my head from various sources.

[Guest guest]

Another thing is that many children with autism have gut issues, and intolerances to foods that exacerbate their health issues and behaviors, corn being one of those foods. HFCS is of course, made from corn, and in SO many things. One thing to also consider is that it's in many fast/convenient food products, which should be a red flag in itself.

 

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 9:49 AM, <cyndikrall wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here is a link to the Mercola articles on HFCS. There is NOTHING natural or innocent about HFCS, NOTHING that enhances our health or well being or longevity. It is TOXIC, and should be avoided at all cost, not consumed in moderation. It goes completely against the very heart of the premise of this group, and one of the reasons I started this group-because people have no idea how destructive and insidious cheap crap like this is. There has been many studies and articles devoted to educating the public about HFCS, but people DON'T LISTEN.

 

It is not possible to " make HFCS out to be more worse than it really is. " HFCS is at the core of what is wrong with our modern food supply, along with a couple of other things. I suggest you do further reading, if you really think HFCS is not bad for you.

 

Cyndi

 

http://search.mercola.com/Results.aspx?q=high%20fructose%20corn%20syrup & k=high%20fructose%20corn%20syrup

 

 

In a message dated 9/21/2008 5:52:59 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jonesfamilyhomestead writes:

 

 

My first objection to the High Fructose Corn Syrup is the processing it goes through to make. It also has no nutrishional value. It is always better to use sweetners that have nutrishional values to it. But here are some good links.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-fructose_corn_syrup: Wikipedia tells you what High Frutose Corn Syrup is, how it is made and even the Health effects.

 

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/high-fructose-corn-syrup/AN01588: The Mayo Clinic also gives some information on why we should limit High Fructose Corn Syrup but doesn't give a whole lot of reasons on why it is bad.

 

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-fi-soda2-2008aug02,0,1313143.story: Here is an article about why the Corn Refiners Assn. has started the huge marketing campaign.

 

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/08/070823094819.htm: Science Daily talks about the health problems of High Fructose Corn Syrup.

 

While there are many websites and groups that make High Frutose Corn Syrup to be worst then it really is there are creditable health groups and websites that do say that High Frutose Corn Syrup isn't good and it sure isn't natural. There are lots of things that we eat that isn't good for us but the key is to be aware of them and if we do eat them, do it in moderation. Whenever possible, substitute the bad things for the good things. Take care and God Bless.

 

 

Love,

The Oklahoma Tomcat

http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/

My : jonesfamilyhomestead/--------

I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn'tmean they do.

 

- Charisse

 

Sunday, September 21, 2008 11:59 AM

 

Re: [RFSL] High Fructose Corn Syrup

 

Can you give me a link to a great explanation as to why HFCS is so bad (especially for kids.) My hubby doesn't understand.Thanks,Charisse , " The Oklahoma Tomcat "

<jonesfamilyhomestead wrote:>> It is funny that they are advertising a website that is parked. Guess they can't make their case on the website. I am curious as to how they can say that HFCS can be good for you. I don't see how.

The only sweetners that I see being good are the natural unprocessed sweetners because they carry natural vitamines, minerals and good bacterias that our bodies need. My favorite is local honey and stevia.

>

> Love,> The Oklahoma Tomcat> http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/> My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/

> My : jonesfamilyhomestead/> --------

> I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn't

 

 

 

 

 

Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators.

[Guest guest]

If you read the first section of Omnivores

Dilemma it tells you all about where corn is and how it gets there. There is

the movie, King Corn, which I haven’t watched. My library just got it in

so I put a request in for me to check it out.

[Guest guest]

I am glad that the last two paragraphs comforted you. I was worried that I may not have made myself clear and that I may have worded my post wrong. I sometimes get in such a hurry and don't word things right. With the homestead and my job outside the homestead and then the family I often go through my e-mails real fast and then reply quickly. So, I do apauligize in advance if my posts sound crazy or even mean.

 

Society does make it convient for us to eat unhealthy and unfortunatly most of society today lives in what I like to call a "microwave lifestyle." I feel that what makes most people unhealthy today isn't just one magic item that we can easly eliminate. It is a combination of eating lots of bad food with no or little good foods and lifestyle. My stepfather has high blood pressure. Not just from eating lots of salty foods but he worries about everything and gets stressed out over little things. There was a documentry that was done that I thought was crazy. The show was called "Super size me" and this guy ate only McDonalds for a whole month to see what would happen. My thought was "Dah." Everyone should know what will happen if you only eat fried foods and sodas for a whole month and it doesn't have to be at McDonalds. Even if you eat only fried foods at home your health will go downhill. This use to be taught in High School Health Class. But I see no problem with spoiling ourselves ever once in awhile with a little unhealthy treat. I say, "Treat yourself to some dessert every once in awhile just don't be a glutton." Eating some pie, cake, candy, fast food, or even drinking a little soda will not do any great harm to us. If you are healthy your body will be able to handle it and will repair any damage done. Most likely your body will just pass the bad stuff out. This does only apply to healthy people who eat "junk" every once in awhile. For instance, my wife and I will eat out once a month before we do our monthly shopping. We will normally go to a buffet style restaunt and have our fill and even have dessert. I don't feel we are damaging our body since the rest of the month we eat very healthy home cooked foods all made from scratch and we don't have soda or processed sweets in the house. My wife will make homemade cookies (from scratch) every once in awhile and on cold nights we may have homemade hot chocolate.

 

The key is moderation on items that we know isn't healthy. Use it as a treat only. And keep a lookout for anything that can be substituted. Like using Honey, Stevia, ect in place of processed white sugar or High Fructose Corn Syrup. Take care and God Bless.

 

Love,

The Oklahoma Tomcat

http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/My : jonesfamilyhomestead/--------I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn'tmean they do.

- Charisse

Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:14 PM

Re: [RFSL] High Fructose Corn Syrup

Thank you, Tomcat. I was quite frustrated with your first paragraph. Society makes it quite difficult to conveniently eat right, but found the other two paragraphs more comforting. I found the same answer about HFCS (my original post), diabetes, and obesity. That won't be happening in our house but it isn't one of my biggest concerns. So, thanks everyone for the links and responses.Charisse , "The Oklahoma Tomcat" <jonesfamilyhomestead wrote:>> I do know HFCS is bad for you. So is processed white surgar, any fruit you buy in the store is bad since it is sprayed, any food you buy in boxes is also bad for you since it is processed. If you buy store canned foods it contains lots of sodiom. If you buy meats from stores it is injected with hormones and fed corn (which isn't good for cows) with chemicals. Buy your children candy? Not good. Sodas are not good for you even if you avoid HFCS because then it either has white processed sugar or the fake stuff.> > We can't eliminate all bad things from our diets. I feel that our bodies are amazing and able to take a little abuse. Even the physical work we do is abusive to our bodies but we are able to handle it. The best thing is to limit the bad things and try our best to change what we can to the good things. If we look up on the internet all the horrible things we eat I feel lots of people would starve to death. It can become a horror movie when you see all the terrible things our bodies take in. I know people that worry about all this stuff and let me tell you, she hardly eats. It is like the people who clean their homes all the time because they worry about germs and bacteria.> > I am all for trying to eat as natural as possible. That is why we have a family homestead and try to grow and raise our own foods. I know that I can't eat only things that are natural and healthy unless I grow it all myself or know people locally that does and going to the grocery stores isn't going to be a scary thing for me. I have read lots of creditable websites about HFCS and it looks like the only thing bad about it is that it is linked to diabetes and over wheight when consumed in large quantities. I know it isn't natural and nothing that isn't natural should be limited. Ofcourse we should watch out for natural things too. Not all natural things is good for you.> > Love,> The Oklahoma Tomcat> http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/> My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/> My : jonesfamilyhomestead/> --------> I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn't> mean they do.> ---"Let food be your medicine" Hippocrates

[Guest guest]

The problem that I have with all the problems that people are saying HFCS causes is that with all the HFCS that people take in why doesn't everyone have bone loss, anemia, heart problems, liver and panceas problems and incolen resestance. Allong with all the other horrible things that have been listed? I see some of the websites posted but don't see any credible evidence to what they say. Now I do see a connection to people who eat lots of processed foods and being over weight and having diabetes. I know that there are some people who have innceling resistance but never met one personally. I am not supporting HFCS. I do try to avoid it also whenever possible. Infact, I stated that I was against using HFCS in a post I did about homemade baby formula before this topic came up. I also try to avoid as much processed foods as possible. But I am just wondering if this isn't just a scare tactic by some groups to attack HFCS like they did with Saturated Fats and McDonalds. Wonder what food will be next? Red Meats? My wife probably would like that since she is for the most part a vegitarian. I would die.

 

Love,

The Oklahoma Tomcat

http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/My : jonesfamilyhomestead/--------I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn'tmean they do.

- Michelle

Wednesday, September 24, 2008 2:51 PM

Re: [RFSL] High Fructose Corn Syrup

 

The consumption of high fructose corn syrup not only exacerbates the obesity epidemic, it also harms organs like your liver and pancreas, leading to bone loss, anemia and heart problems, just to name a few.Thanks. I knew there had to me a little more to it!

On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 3:40 PM, <cyndikrall wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Some facts about HFCS:

 

 

Until the 1970s, most sugar was sucrose derived from sugar beets or sugar cane. But sugar from corn, especially high fructose corn syrup (HFCS), is now more popular because it is much less expensive to produce.

It also contains nearly twice the fructose of the sugars that came before it. Between 1980 and 1994, average fructose consumption rose from 39 pounds per year to 83 pounds per year.

 

Fructose contains no enzymes, vitamins or minerals, and it leeches micronutrients from the body. Unbound fructose, found in large quantities in HFCS, can interfere with the heart's use of minerals such as magnesium, copper and chromium.

Fructose also reduces the affinity of insulin for its receptor, which is the principle characteristic of type 2 diabetes.

HFCS has been implicated in elevated blood cholesterol levels, and it has been found to inhibit the action of the immune system's white blood cells.

The consumption of high fructose corn syrup not only exacerbates the obesity epidemic, it also harms organs like your liver and pancreas, leading to bone loss, anemia and heart problems, just to name a few.

Fructose, weight gain and insulin resistance syndrome:

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/76/5/911

HFCS or crystalline fructose or hydrolyzed fructose from inulin, convert to triglycerides and adipose tissue, within 60 minutes of ingestion, not blood glucose -- A FACT.

The cheapest ingredient in the American food chain (profit factor) after air, water and salt is HFCS -- A FACT.

In 1970, zero pounds of HFCS existed in the U.S. food chain, or the SEMANTICALLY legislated equivalent in the EU, 'iso-glucose,' which is High Fructose Wheat Or Beet Syrup. Today HFCS is about 68 pounds per year per person in the USA -- FACT.

In 2005, if one looks at the actuarial curve on cardiovascular disease, obesity, hypoglycemia, and diabetes, they all parallel HFCS increase in the food chain -- A FACT.

Corn starch converted to a man-made molecule falsely called 'fructose' is NOT sugar from cane or beet or metabolized the same -- A FACT.

The delusion that fructose is an acceptable form of sugar is quite prevalent in many nutritional circles. In fact, nearly all simple sugars are metabolized quickly and disrupt insulin levels, which contributes to most chronic illness. Eating small amounts of whole fruit will not provide tremendous amounts of fructose and should not be a problem for most people, unless diabetes or obesity is an issue but fruit juices, sodas and other beverages sweetened with fructose should be avoided.

To add insult to injury, the corn that the high fructose corn syrup is metabolized from nearly all comes from genetically modified corn which is fraught with its own well documented side effects and health concerns.

High fructose corn syrup is is not something that should be in your diet at all. But HFCS is the primary caloric sweetener in U.S. soft drinks. Researchers estimate that most Americans eat 132 calories of HFCS per day, while the top 20 percent of sweetener consumers eat over 300. And some, they say, eat as much as 700 calories per day of HFCS.

Sodas, of course, are not the only source of HFCS (though they represent one of the main ones). This dangerous sweetener is also in many processed foods and fruit juices, so to avoid it you need to focus your diet on whole foods and, if you do purchase packaged foods, become an avid label reader.

Elevated insulin levels are the foundation of nearly every chronic disease, including:

 

Cancer Heart disease Diabetes Premature aging Arthritis Osteoporosis

 

High Fructose Corn Syrup Does NOT Metabolize in the Same Way as Sugar

HFCS is a highly processed product that contains similar amounts of unbound fructose and glucose. Sucrose, on the other hand, is a larger sugar molecule that is metabolized into glucose and fructose in your intestine.

Part of what makes HFCS such an unhealthy product is that it is metabolized to fat in your body far more rapidly than any other sugar, and, because most fructose is consumed in liquid form, its negative metabolic effects are significantly magnified.

Whereas the glucose in other sugars is used by your body, and is converted to blood glucose, fructose is a relatively unregulated source of fuel that your liver converts to fat and cholesterol.

There are over 35 years of hard empirical evidence that refined man-made fructose like high fructose corn syrup metabolizes to triglycerides and adipose tissue, not blood glucose. The downside of this is that fructose does not stimulate your insulin secretion, nor enhance leptin production. (Leptin is a hormone thought to be involved in appetite regulation.)

Because insulin and leptin act as key signals in regulating how much food you eat, as well as your body weight, this suggests that dietary fructose may contribute to increased food intake and weight gain.

Additionally, fructose is also known to significantly raise your triglycerides and LDL (bad cholesterol).

Triglycerides, the chemical form of fat found in foods and in your body, are not something you want in excess amounts. Intense research over the past 40 years has confirmed that elevated blood levels of triglycerides, known as hypertriglyceridemia, puts you at an increased risk of heart disease.

New Evidence That HFCS Contributes to Development of Diabetes

Recent research, reported at the 2007 national meeting of the American Chemical Society, found new evidence that soft drinks sweetened with HFCS may contribute to the development of diabetes because it contains high levels of reactive compounds that have been shown by others to trigger cell and tissue damage that cause diabetes.

Chemical tests among 11 different carbonated soft drinks containing HFCS were found to have 'astonishingly high' levels of reactive carbonyls. Reactive carbonyls are undesirable and highly-reactive compounds associated with "unbound" fructose and glucose molecules, and are believed to cause tissue damage.

By contrast, reactive carbonyls are not present in table sugar because its fructose and glucose components are "bound" and chemically stable.

Reactive carbonyls are elevated in the blood of individuals with diabetes and are linked to the health complications of diabetes. Based on the study data, the researchers estimate that a single can of soda contains about five times the concentration of reactive carbonyls than the concentration found in the blood of an adult person with diabetes.

Fructose Depletes Your Body of Enzymes, Vitamins or Minerals

Fructose also does not contain any enzymes, vitamins or minerals so it takes these micronutrients from your body while it assimilates itself for use.

Unbound fructose, found in large quantities in HFCS, can interfere with your heart's use of minerals such as magnesium, copper and chromium.

This does not mean you should avoid whole fruit, however, as it contains natural fructose together with the enzymes, vitamins and minerals needed for your body to assimilate the fructose. Eating small amounts of whole fruit also does not provide a tremendous amount of fructose, and is not likely to be a problem for most people unless diabetes or obesity is an issue.

Did You Know? -- Most HFCS is Made From Genetically Modified Corn

Adding insult to injury, HFCS is almost always made from genetically modified corn, which is fraught with its own well documented side effects and health concerns. GMO corn will radically increase your risk of developing corn food allergies. The problem with corn allergies are that once you have a corn allergy from GMO corn you will have an allergy to even healthy organic corn products.

The Bottom Line

Sodas, of course, are not the only source of HFCS (though they represent one of the main ones). This dangerous sweetener is also in many processed foods and fruit juices, so to avoid it you need to focus your diet on whole foods and, if you do purchase packaged foods, become an avid label reader.

But if you want to drastically improve your health, the answer is plain and simple. To lose weight and reduce your risk of developing metabolic syndrome, diabetes, and heart disease, STOP drinking soda and processed fruit juices that are sweetened with about eight teaspoons of fructose per serving!

Switch to pure water as your beverage of choice and you will be well on your way to better health.

However, like most areas in life, when presented with two poisons, choose carefully.

Even though HFCS is clearly something you want to avoid, it is not as bad as artificial sweeteners, which damage your health even more rapidly than HFCS. So ideally, you'll want to avoid ALL sodas, but if you have to choose between soda sweetened with HFCS (regular soda) or artificial sweeteners (diet soda), choose HFCS.

The best and safest sweetener (although illegal to use according to the FDA) would be the herb stevia.

 

 

In a message dated 9/24/2008 10:21:57 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, suprmommy writes:

I knew HFCS was bad but mostly because I was told it was. I figured it was linked to cancer or something. So what does HFCS do to your body? It the biggest problems diabetes and obesity? Not that those aren't important but I wouldn't think there would be such a crusade against it if that was it. I just want to know what makes it bad other then it not being natural. I am not as "natural" and some people on the board but I do what I can. I make the changes I can but I have to admit... I am not 100 percent on anything. So what is it about HFCS?

 

 

 

 

Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators.-- ~~~~Being a full-time mother is one of the highest salaried jobs... since the payment is pure love~~~~

[Guest guest]

I think its too complicated to see a direct connection between a

toxic environment (including the shift to unnatural/undiversified

food) and increases in autism/allergies/asthma/autoimmune

disorders/etc.....but I believe STRONGLY that it is the cause. I

have a ton more to say on this subject but not enough time! I'll try

more later!

 

 

, " The Oklahoma Tomcat "

<jonesfamilyhomestead wrote:

>

> The problem that I have with all the problems that people are

saying HFCS causes is that with all the HFCS that people take in why

doesn't everyone have bone loss, anemia, heart problems, liver and

panceas problems and incolen resestance. Allong with all the other

horrible things that have been listed? I see some of the websites

posted but don't see any credible evidence to what they say. Now I

do see a connection to people who eat lots of processed foods and

being over weight and having diabetes. I know that there are some

people who have innceling resistance but never met one personally. I

am not supporting HFCS. I do try to avoid it also whenever

possible. Infact, I stated that I was against using HFCS in a post I

did about homemade baby formula before this topic came up. I also

try to avoid as much processed foods as possible. But I am just

wondering if this isn't just a scare tactic by some groups to attack

HFCS like they did with Saturated Fats and McDonalds. Wonder what

food will be next? Red Meats? My wife probably would like that

since she is for the most part a vegitarian. I would die.

>

> Love,

> The Oklahoma Tomcat

> http://joneshomestead.tripod.com/

> My blog: http://thelifeofanoklhahomatomcat.blogspot.com/

> My : jonesfamilyhomestead/

> --------

> I believe - That just because two people argue, it doesn't mean

they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it

doesn't

> mean they do.

>

> -

> Michelle

>

> Wednesday, September 24, 2008 2:51 PM

> Re: [RFSL] High Fructose Corn Syrup

>

>

> The consumption of high fructose corn syrup not only exacerbates

the obesity epidemic, it also harms organs like your liver and

pancreas, leading to bone loss, anemia and heart problems, just to

name a few.

>

> Thanks. I knew there had to me a little more to it!

>

>

> On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 3:40 PM, <cyndikrall wrote:

>

>

> Some facts about HFCS:

>

> Until the 1970s, most sugar was sucrose derived from sugar beets

or sugar cane. But sugar from corn, especially high fructose corn

syrup (HFCS), is now more popular because it is much less expensive

to produce.

>

> It also contains nearly twice the fructose of the sugars that

came before it. Between 1980 and 1994, average fructose consumption

rose from 39 pounds per year to 83 pounds per year.

>

>

> Fructose contains no enzymes, vitamins or minerals, and it

leeches micronutrients from the body. Unbound fructose, found in

large quantities in HFCS, can interfere with the heart's use of

minerals such as magnesium, copper and chromium.

>

> Fructose also reduces the affinity of insulin for its receptor,

which is the principle characteristic of type 2 diabetes.

>

> HFCS has been implicated in elevated blood cholesterol levels,

and it has been found to inhibit the action of the immune system's

white blood cells.

>

> The consumption of high fructose corn syrup not only exacerbates

the obesity epidemic, it also harms organs like your liver and

pancreas, leading to bone loss, anemia and heart problems, just to

name a few.

>

> Fructose, weight gain and insulin resistance syndrome:

>

> http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/76/5/911

>

> HFCS or crystalline fructose or hydrolyzed fructose from inulin,

convert to triglycerides and adipose tissue, within 60 minutes of

ingestion, not blood glucose -- A FACT.

>

> The cheapest ingredient in the American food chain (profit

factor) after air, water and salt is HFCS -- A FACT.

>

> In 1970, zero pounds of HFCS existed in the U.S. food chain, or

the SEMANTICALLY legislated equivalent in the EU, 'iso-glucose,'

which is High Fructose Wheat Or Beet Syrup. Today HFCS is about 68

pounds per year per person in the USA -- FACT.

>

> In 2005, if one looks at the actuarial curve on cardiovascular

disease, obesity, hypoglycemia, and diabetes, they all parallel HFCS

increase in the food chain -- A FACT.

>

> Corn starch converted to a man-made molecule falsely

called 'fructose' is NOT sugar from cane or beet or metabolized the

same -- A FACT.

>

> The delusion that fructose is an acceptable form of sugar is

quite prevalent in many nutritional circles. In fact, nearly all

simple sugars are metabolized quickly and disrupt insulin levels,

which contributes to most chronic illness. Eating small amounts of

whole fruit will not provide tremendous amounts of fructose and

should not be a problem for most people, unless diabetes or obesity

is an issue but fruit juices, sodas and other beverages sweetened

with fructose should be avoided.

>

> To add insult to injury, the corn that the high fructose corn

syrup is metabolized from nearly all comes from genetically modified

corn which is fraught with its own well documented side effects and

health concerns.

>

>

> High fructose corn syrup is is not something that should be in

your diet at all. But HFCS is the primary caloric sweetener in U.S.

soft drinks. Researchers estimate that most Americans eat 132

calories of HFCS per day, while the top 20 percent of sweetener

consumers eat over 300. And some, they say, eat as much as 700

calories per day of HFCS.

>

> Sodas, of course, are not the only source of HFCS (though they

represent one of the main ones). This dangerous sweetener is also in

many processed foods and fruit juices, so to avoid it you need to

focus your diet on whole foods and, if you do purchase packaged

foods, become an avid label reader.

>

> Elevated insulin levels are the foundation of nearly every

chronic disease, including:

>

> a.. Cancer

> b.. Heart disease

> c.. Diabetes

> d.. Premature aging

> e.. Arthritis

> f.. Osteoporosis

> High Fructose Corn Syrup Does NOT Metabolize in the Same Way as

Sugar

>

> HFCS is a highly processed product that contains similar amounts

of unbound fructose and glucose. Sucrose, on the other hand, is a

larger sugar molecule that is metabolized into glucose and fructose

in your intestine.

>

> Part of what makes HFCS such an unhealthy product is that it is

metabolized to fat in your body far more rapidly than any other

sugar, and, because most fructose is consumed in liquid form, its

negative metabolic effects are significantly magnified.

>

> Whereas the glucose in other sugars is used by your body, and is

converted to blood glucose, fructose is a relatively unregulated

source of fuel that your liver converts to fat and cholesterol.

>

> There are over 35 years of hard empirical evidence that refined

man-made fructose like high fructose corn syrup metabolizes to

triglycerides and adipose tissue, not blood glucose. The downside of

this is that fructose does not stimulate your insulin secretion, nor

enhance leptin production. (Leptin is a hormone thought to be

involved in appetite regulation.)

>

> Because insulin and leptin act as key signals in regulating how

much food you eat, as well as your body weight, this suggests that

dietary fructose may contribute to increased food intake and weight

gain.

>

> Additionally, fructose is also known to significantly raise your

triglycerides and LDL (bad cholesterol).

>

> Triglycerides, the chemical form of fat found in foods and in

your body, are not something you want in excess amounts. Intense

research over the past 40 years has confirmed that elevated blood

levels of triglycerides, known as hypertriglyceridemia, puts you at

an increased risk of heart disease.

>

> New Evidence That HFCS Contributes to Development of Diabetes

>

> Recent research, reported at the 2007 national meeting of the

American Chemical Society, found new evidence that soft drinks

sweetened with HFCS may contribute to the development of diabetes

because it contains high levels of reactive compounds that have been

shown by others to trigger cell and tissue damage that cause diabetes.

>

> Chemical tests among 11 different carbonated soft drinks

containing HFCS were found to have 'astonishingly high' levels of

reactive carbonyls. Reactive carbonyls are undesirable and highly-

reactive compounds associated with " unbound " fructose and glucose

molecules, and are believed to cause tissue damage.

>

> By contrast, reactive carbonyls are not present in table sugar

because its fructose and glucose components are " bound " and

chemically stable.

>

> Reactive carbonyls are elevated in the blood of individuals with

diabetes and are linked to the health complications of diabetes.

Based on the study data, the researchers estimate that a single can

of soda contains about five times the concentration of reactive

carbonyls than the concentration found in the blood of an adult

person with diabetes.

>

> Fructose Depletes Your Body of Enzymes, Vitamins or Minerals

>

> Fructose also does not contain any enzymes, vitamins or minerals

so it takes these micronutrients from your body while it assimilates

itself for use.

>

> Unbound fructose, found in large quantities in HFCS, can

interfere with your heart's use of minerals such as magnesium, copper

and chromium.

>

> This does not mean you should avoid whole fruit, however, as it

contains natural fructose together with the enzymes, vitamins and

minerals needed for your body to assimilate the fructose. Eating

small amounts of whole fruit also does not provide a tremendous

amount of fructose, and is not likely to be a problem for most people

unless diabetes or obesity is an issue.

>

> Did You Know? -- Most HFCS is Made From Genetically Modified Corn

>

> Adding insult to injury, HFCS is almost always made from

genetically modified corn, which is fraught with its own well

documented side effects and health concerns.

>

> GMO corn will radically increase your risk of developing corn

food allergies. The problem with corn allergies are that once you

have a corn allergy from GMO corn you will have an allergy to even

healthy organic corn products.

>

> The Bottom Line

>

> Sodas, of course, are not the only source of HFCS (though they

represent one of the main ones). This dangerous sweetener is also in

many processed foods and fruit juices, so to avoid it you need to

focus your diet on whole foods and, if you do purchase packaged

foods, become an avid label reader.

>

> But if you want to drastically improve your health, the answer is

plain and simple. To lose weight and reduce your risk of developing

metabolic syndrome, diabetes, and heart disease, STOP drinking soda

and processed fruit juices that are sweetened with about eight

teaspoons of fructose per serving!

>

> Switch to pure water as your beverage of choice and you will be

well on your way to better health.

>

> However, like most areas in life, when presented with two

poisons, choose carefully.

>

> Even though HFCS is clearly something you want to avoid, it is

not as bad as artificial sweeteners, which damage your health even

more rapidly than HFCS. So ideally, you'll want to avoid ALL sodas,

but if you have to choose between soda sweetened with HFCS (regular

soda) or artificial sweeteners (diet soda), choose HFCS.

>

> The best and safest sweetener (although illegal to use according

to the FDA) would be the herb stevia.

>

>

>

> In a message dated 9/24/2008 10:21:57 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

suprmommy writes:

> I knew HFCS was bad but mostly because I was told it was. I

figured it was linked to cancer or something. So what does HFCS do to

your body? It the biggest problems diabetes and obesity? Not that

those aren't important but I wouldn't think there would be such a

crusade against it if that was it. I just want to know what makes it

bad other then it not being natural.

>

> I am not as " natural " and some people on the board but I do

what I can. I make the changes I can but I have to admit... I am not

100 percent on anything.

>

> So what is it about HFCS?

--

----------

> Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial

challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information,

tips and calculators.

>

>

>

> --

> ~~~~Being a full-time mother is one of the highest salaried jobs...

since the payment is pure love~~~~

>

[Guest guest]

“The problem that I

have with all the problems that people are saying HFCS causes is that with all

the HFCS that people take in why doesn't everyone have bone loss, anemia, heart

problems, liver and panceas problems and incolen resistance.”

 

I am not a doctor but I believe this is the

beauty of nature. Somehow we believe that our bodies are more like

machines than wonders of nature. Since we are not machine and there are

so many variable, outcomes are not consistent. Nature has a built in

mechanism to try to limit entire species problems and let the strong

survive. Not saying that people who can’t handle HFCS or MSG or

even milk or any of the other toxins in our society are weak but every one

reacts differently. Here is a story I tell to illustrate this:

 

DH was a pharmaceutical rep years ago and

he sold Celebrex. A doctor was telling us about a patient with arthritis

which he prescribed Celebrex. Didn’t work. Dr. then tried

Vioxx. Didn’t work. Then he tried an older drug which was

replaced by those new ones because it was less effective, Arthrotec, and

surprise it worked. It just seems to me that people react differently to different

things. On top of that there are probably contributing factors which vary

from person to person.

 

While I am not anywhere where I want to be

with a natural, sustainable diet, I firmly believe that in some ways when man

gets in the middle of nature and tries to improve it or copy it, it ultimately

fails. This was true for trans fats, MSG, food coloring and many other

things. Can you tell I am in the middle of reading “The Omnivores

Dilemma”?

[Guest guest]

Toxins also manifest themselves in many ways that people don't recognize. Depression, stomach aches, constipation, headaches, forgetfulness, irritability, lack of energy, acid indigestion, acid reflux, asthma, allergies, just to name a few. I believe that we all suffer from toxins in our environment and food, even if we don't recognize it. These aren't things we might go to a doctor for, and even if we did they might not be diagnosed correctly. By the time our symptoms build up, it usually manifests itself in outright illness. The inflammation that is in our system causes illnesses. Anything that causes the body chronic inflammation will eventually lead to illness of some sort. Things like HFSC and canola oil cause inflammation. There is a simple blood test you can take to measure the amount of inflammation in your body. I've had it done.

 

Just my humble opinion based on looking at the people around me.

 

Cyndi

 

In a message dated 9/25/2008 4:53:38 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ERIKA.T.SOTIRAKOS writes:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

“The problem that I have with all the problems that people are saying HFCS causes is that with all the HFCS that people take in why doesn't everyone have bone loss, anemia, heart problems, liver and panceas problems and incolen resistance.â€

 

I am not a doctor but I believe this is the beauty of nature. Somehow we believe that our bodies are more like machines than wonders of nature. Since we are not machine and there are so many variable, outcomes are not consistent. Nature has a built in mechanism to try to limit entire species problems and let the strong survive. Not saying that people who can’t handle HFCS or MSG or even milk or any of the other toxins in our society are weak but every one reacts differently. Here is a story I tell to illustrate this:

 

DH was a pharmaceutical rep years ago and he sold Celebrex. A doctor was telling us about a patient with arthritis which he prescribed Celebrex. Didn’t work. Dr. then tried Vioxx. Didn’t work. Then he tried an older drug which was replaced by those new ones because it was less effective, Arthrotec, and surprise it worked. It just seems to me that people react differently to different things. On top of that there are probably contributing factors which vary from person to person.

 

While I am not anywhere where I want to be with a natural, sustainable diet, I firmly believe that in some ways when man gets in the middle of nature and tries to improve it or copy it, it ultimately fails. This was true for trans fats, MSG, food coloring and many other things. Can you tell I am in the middle of reading “The Omnivores Dilemma�

 

Messages in this topic (31) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic

"Let food be your medicine"

 

Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators.

[Guest guest]

I love my stainless steel canteen too! I got a little cover for it that helps it not "sweat" and insulates it a bit as well. I take it everywhere. :-)Cyndi

 

In a message dated 9/25/2008 9:11:45 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, donnabzy writes:

 

 

 

 

 

I so agree! Illnesses are being dx'd at an alarming rate, all across the board, and people can't correlate that with all the added crap in our lives. Increased toxins in our vaccines (along with increased vaccines), more pesticides, more pollution, more dyes/additives/hormones in our foods, more chemicals in our homes and cosmetics and cleaning supplies...the BPA issue alone is scary. (And I am loving my stainless steel canteen!! It's great how cold it keeps my drinks, and how much easier it is to refill it and travel.)

 

Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators.

[Guest guest]

I so agree! Illnesses are being dx'd at an alarming rate, all across the board, and people can't correlate that with all the added crap in our lives. Increased toxins in our vaccines (along with increased vaccines), more pesticides, more pollution, more dyes/additives/hormones in our foods, more chemicals in our homes and cosmetics and cleaning supplies...the BPA issue alone is scary. (And I am loving my stainless steel canteen!! It's great how cold it keeps my drinks, and how much easier it is to refill it and travel.)

 

On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:53 AM, Sotirakos, Erika T. <ERIKA.T.SOTIRAKOS wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"The problem that I have with all the problems that people are saying HFCS causes is that with all the HFCS that people take in why doesn't everyone have bone loss, anemia, heart problems, liver and panceas problems and incolen resistance."

 

I am not a doctor but I believe this is the beauty of nature. Somehow we believe that our bodies are more like machines than wonders of nature. Since we are not machine and there are so many variable, outcomes are not consistent. Nature has a built in mechanism to try to limit entire species problems and let the strong survive. Not saying that people who can't handle HFCS or MSG or even milk or any of the other toxins in our society are weak but every one reacts differently. Here is a story I tell to illustrate this:

 

DH was a pharmaceutical rep years ago and he sold Celebrex. A doctor was telling us about a patient with arthritis which he prescribed Celebrex. Didn't work. Dr. then tried Vioxx. Didn't work. Then he tried an older drug which was replaced by those new ones because it was less effective, Arthrotec, and surprise it worked. It just seems to me that people react differently to different things. On top of that there are probably contributing factors which vary from person to person.

 

While I am not anywhere where I want to be with a natural, sustainable diet, I firmly believe that in some ways when man gets in the middle of nature and tries to improve it or copy it, it ultimately fails. This was true for trans fats, MSG, food coloring and many other things. Can you tell I am in the middle of reading "The Omnivores Dilemma"?