Shingles

August 24, 2002

Hi Janet,

A combination of St Johns Wort, and

Calendula Cream will provide pain relief and stimulate healing of any lesions. Also

as Shingles is a virus that sits dormant at the nerve root of the spinal cord

high potency B group vitamins will promote health of the nerves. Nutrients that

boost the immune system Vit A, C, E, Zinc and lysine

should also be included.

Karen

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Saturday, August 24, 2002 12:58 AM

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[herbal remedies] RE:

Shingles

My mom has shingles. She is living with my sister in central

California, so I can't help her directly. I did suggest that she have my sister

buy her some astragalus to boost immune system function. Also suggested

calendula cream to go with the capsacin ointment she has. They have her on all

sorts of nasty drugs, so she is nauseous and has headaches too. My dad died of

a global heart attack last year and I think the stress has weakened her immune

system. I am not sure what else I can suggest for her since she is taking so

many drugs. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Janet

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August 25, 2002

Suzanne Nottmeier wrote:

> one of the main purposes of the list is to eradicate the bad information and

promote >tried and true solutions that address the true Cause of illness

Well, if you are after addressing " the true Cause of illness " , then I

don't think herbs are it. Illnesses don't develop due to lack of some

herbs. The develop from wrong thinking patterns, chronic stress,

malnourishment, pollution, etc. While herbs can be very helpful, I don't

think they address the root cause. They just deal with consequences of

it. Resolving emotional/energy blockages, relieving chronic stress,

finding individually appropriate diet will address the root cause. That

was all assuming absence of serious genetic defects.

Roman

August 25, 2002

Roman wrote:

Well, if you are after addressing "the true Cause of illness", then Idon't think herbs are it. Illnesses don't develop due to lack of someherbs. The develop from wrong thinking patterns, chronic stress,malnourishment, pollution, etc. While herbs can be very helpful, I don'tthink they address the root cause. They just deal with consequences ofit. Resolving emotional/energy blockages, relieving chronic stress,finding individually appropriate diet will address the root cause. Thatwas all assuming absence of serious genetic defects.RomanI was referring to the rules of this list in reply to a message previously sent.

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February 22, 2004

I can tell you what helped me, Braggs Apple Cider Vinegar! I felt dirty and

while taking a shower poured on the apple cider vinegar and air dried. I then

put on tea tree oil. It worked for me!

Jane

September 16, 2004

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reply... I think I will use some colloidal silver

internally, as it did not seem to be helpful sponged

on the welts ( hives ??) thanks for the

idea.. m s...

At 08:49 AM 9/16/2004, you wrote:

I tried

to find the medicine the doctor gave me years ago to clear up

shingles. They sometimes used it for herpes, too. It is a

large " horse " pill and I believe it was purple. I cannot

remember its exact name and they may not make it anymore.

I thought it was called something like

Zorax.

There are internet sites that sell newer meds

for shingles that you can order without a prescription. Some are

topical and others are pills. There are also some holistic health

creams that claim they are 100% effective. I wonder if collodial

silver can kill the shingle virus?

Sue B.

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September 17, 2004

There are not many meds that will penetrate through skin but MSM will. I read on one list, perhaps it was this one, that if you have a bad painful bruise you can powder an aspirin and mix it with diluted MSM and place it over the bruise. The MSM will carry the aspirin right into the bruise to alleviate the pain. This might be just the trick to carry the colloidal silver through your skin. I would take a small amount of colloidal silver and mix MSM into it until no more MSM will dissolve in it. I would definitely take regular colloidal silver also. That will build up your immune system. As I understand it, shingles are brought on by stress but normally only when your immune system is low.

I hope this will help you. It is something to try. If it works for you, please give us an update.

Harvey

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Thursday, September 16, 2004 7:12 AM

Re: Shingles

\\reply... I think I will use some colloidal silver internally, as it did not seem to be helpful sponged on the welts ( hives ??) thanks for the idea.. m s...At 08:49 AM 9/16/2004, you wrote:

I tried to find the medicine the doctor gave me years ago to clear up shingles. They sometimes used it for herpes, too. It is a large "horse" pill and I believe it was purple. I cannot remember its exact name and they may not make it anymore. I thought it was called something like Zorax. There are internet sites that sell newer meds for shingles that you can order without a prescription. Some are topical and others are pills. There are also some holistic health creams that claim they are 100% effective. I wonder if collodial silver can kill the shingle virus? Sue B.

September 17, 2004

Reply-- I did not have such a good method of

using the colloidal silver, but am starting this

regimen at once, and taking small amount of

MSM along with the deer velvet to facilitate

my shoulder dislocation.. . ( which is the stress I

personally caused myself, but stupid swan dives, at

age 84,, NO excuses, but, simply not watching where i

put my feet, and did this 3 times, just to make

sure i really nicked that shoulder , but

good).... The shingles was probably brought

into full play when I took ( stupidly) a pain pill that

had codeine, caused stomach retching immediately,

and it was downhill since then for the SHINGLE

thingy...

This is the 6th week of the Shingles, and there might

be a rundown no matter what treatment,

so this is not going to be a very good

test..

But, am on my way, and will send reports...

Thanks so VERY much,

,m schmidt, ONYX CAVE< EUREKA SPRINGS> ARK..

At 07:48 PM 9/16/2004, you wrote:

There are

not many meds that will penetrate through skin but MSM will. I read on

one list, perhaps it was this one, that if you have a bad painful bruise

you can powder an aspirin and mix it with diluted MSM and place it over

the bruise. The MSM will carry the aspirin right into the bruise to

alleviate the pain. This might be just the trick to carry the

colloidal silver through your skin. I would take a small amount of

colloidal silver and mix MSM into it until no more MSM will dissolve in

it. I would definitely take regular colloidal silver also. That will

build up your immune system. As I understand it, shingles are brought on

by stress but normally only when your immune system is low.

I hope this will help you. It is something to

try. If it works for you, please give us an update.

Harvey

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Muriel Schmidt

Thursday, September 16, 2004 7:12 AM

Re: Shingles

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reply... I think I will use some colloidal silver internally, as it did not seem to be helpful sponged on the welts ( hives ??) thanks for the idea.. m s...

At 08:49 AM 9/16/2004, you wrote:

I tried to find the medicine the doctor gave me years ago to clear up shingles. They sometimes used it for herpes, too. It is a large " horse " pill and I believe it was purple. I cannot remember its exact name and they may not make it anymore.

I thought it was called something like Zorax.

There are internet sites that sell newer meds for shingles that you can order without a prescription. Some are topical and others are pills. There are also some holistic health creams that claim they are 100% effective. I wonder if collodial silver can kill the shingle virus?

Sue B.

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September 7, 2005

Hello -

Once the shingles are advanced, there's not

a lot that can be done for the pain. I recommend

chiropractic adjustment, preferably light-force

work. However, the lesions can be treated

externally and internally with colloidal silver.

If you put it on topically, it dries them and helps

with pain. I have recommended this to people and

they said it was the only thing that helped.

You don't have to make your own, just buy a

good quality colloidal silver (such as Life Force)

at the HFS and it will be better than any OTC or

rx meds you can get.

Lil

September 7, 2005

Thanks... my shingles are NOT painful,, just itching, and I am using

SARNA ( highly advertised, over the counter lotion).... but, am

wondering about all the warnings IF shingles get to the eyes or the

ears... how can anyone control WHERE they erupt? Yes, I make the

colloidal silver, and can use that easily.

Thanks for that comment...

your herpes friend. in NW Arkansas...

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Wednesday, September 07, 2005 9:07 AM

Re:shingles

> Hello -

> Once the shingles are advanced, there's not

> a lot that can be done for the pain. I recommend

> chiropractic adjustment, preferably light-force

> work. However, the lesions can be treated

> externally and internally with colloidal silver.

> If you put it on topically, it dries them and helps

> with pain. I have recommended this to people and

> they said it was the only thing that helped.

> You don't have to make your own, just buy a

> good quality colloidal silver (such as Life Force)

> at the HFS and it will be better than any OTC or

> rx meds you can get.

>

> Lil

>

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September 24, 2005

Shingles is a form of the herpes virus. Melissa Officinalis (Lemon Balm)

works as an anti-viral. I know several folks that have used the essential

oil mixed into a lotion base for Shingles. Also, lemon balm makes a great

tea, and taking it this way could also help.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en & lr= & q=Lemon+Balm+for+shingles

Here's a link for the search I did.....it will give you several sources for

how to make the tea and how to use as a topical application.

HTH,

Candy

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September 25, 2005

Thank you something atlast that that pickle rascal

might use.

Pat M

--- " C. Lucas " <clucas wrote:

> Shingles is a form of the herpes virus. Melissa

> Officinalis (Lemon Balm)

> works as an anti-viral. I know several folks that

> have used the essential

> oil mixed into a lotion base for Shingles. Also,

> lemon balm makes a great

> tea, and taking it this way could also help.

>

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en & lr= & q=Lemon+Balm+for+shingles

>

> Here's a link for the search I did.....it will give

> you several sources for

> how to make the tea and how to use as a topical

> application.

>

> HTH,

> Candy

>

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February 6, 2006

Homeopathic Rhus Tox.

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Lin

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Sunday, February 05, 2006 11:13 AM

Herbal Remedies - Shingles

coming out of lurkdom to ask for some advicefirst i would like to say how much i enjoy and havelearned from this group.... )now to my question....my uncle has been diagnosedwith shingles in his ear, Herpes zoster oticus ( Ramsay Hunt Syndrome) i've googled and read quite a bit about and i would liketo know if anyone would have any herbal suggestions.He is also a diabetic and his sugar has been out of controldo to this infection...he is being treated by ear specialist. any help will be greatly appreciatedThanksLin

July 17, 2006

Dear Joe,

The handling for this is The Purification Rundown which is a modified Incurables Program that included large doses of Niacin. It is a radiation problem.

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Sunday, July 16, 2006 3:07 PM

Herbal Remedies - Shingles

My wife suffers from reoccuring cases of Shingles. Can anyone recommend a herbal solution to her problem?Thanks in advanceJoe

December 16, 2006

I don't know about any Chinese herbs for shingles, BUT I get them

about 2 times a year and use the amino acid Lysine. I take 1000 mg as

soon as I notice it coming on and continue with 1000 mg. 3 times a day

for at least a week. It works better and faster than prescription

Valtrex which costs about $300 a week if you have no insurance!! I

believe that if you research the reasons why this works, it is because

you have too much Argenine in relation to Lysine in your system. You

are also supposed to avoid things like peanut butter and chocolate.

You can also by over the counter ointments that contain lysine as

well. Also, my mother-in-law came from France and brought me some

homeopathic meds....I used them the last breakout along with the

lysine, and it was almost gone the very next day! I never got a full

breakout! The homeopathic meds were rhus toxicodendron, apis

mellifica, and vaccinotoxinum. Hope this helps.

April 8, 2007

Dear Meredith,

My first thought is to vent the shingles out using herbs like Chan Tui, Niu

Bang Zi, Ge Gen and Bo He. For itching consider Jing Jie, Fang Feng and Bai Ji

li. But of course, rule #1 is to determine the patient's pattern and treat him

and not the herpes zoster! If indeed there is toxic heat, then of course, clear

it with herbs like Ban Lan Gen, and Lian Qiao, or a formula like Pu Ji Xiao Du

Yin.

Yehuda

natdoc48 <natdoc48 wrote:

I have a patient with probably early stage shingles. Severe burning

pain along a nerve pathway (lateral L leg, calf height) that is

keeping her up at night (2 nights). No blisters yet.

Can I make a raw formula or a formula with granules and she can apply

it topically? As well as internally. Something based on Long Dan Xie

Gan? Any suggestions appreciated.

I have treated patients after the blisters have appeared and use

(patents, sorry...but trying to branch out : ) Long Dan Xie Gan Tang

and Xiao Chai Hu Tang and surround the dragon needling with good

success. In this case, the blisters have not appeared and I would

like to help her shorten the course if I can.

Thanks for your help.

Meredith

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April 9, 2007

Probably not shingles in that area. Before you try the shingle

treatment, be sure it's not another other neural pathology.

Kelvin

Chinese Medicine , " natdoc48 "

<natdoc48 wrote:

>

> I have a patient with probably early stage shingles. Severe burning

> pain along a nerve pathway (lateral L leg, calf height) that is

> keeping her up at night (2 nights). No blisters yet.

> Can I make a raw formula or a formula with granules and she can apply

> it topically? As well as internally. Something based on Long Dan Xie

> Gan? Any suggestions appreciated.

> I have treated patients after the blisters have appeared and use

> (patents, sorry...but trying to branch out : ) Long Dan Xie Gan Tang

> and Xiao Chai Hu Tang and surround the dragon needling with good

> success. In this case, the blisters have not appeared and I would

> like to help her shorten the course if I can.

> Thanks for your help.

> Meredith

>

April 9, 2007

Er... Isn't Pu Ji Xiao Du Yin for toxic heat in the

throat area? Do you find that it can work pretty much

anywhere?

y.c.

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I'm sorry, you're right! Pu Ji Xiao Du Yin is not indicated for toxic heat in

the legs. I have used it successfully to treat shingles, but affecting the

face. The cases I treated were each wind heat with toxic heat. However,

shingles in the legs I would suggest would probably be due to damp heat combined

with toxic heat and affecting the liver and/or kidneys. Remember that PJXDY

treats toxic fire (primarily) and clears wind heat (secondarily). I might

therefore, use the herbs in it that clear heat and relieve toxicity: Huang Qin,

huang lian, lian qiao, xuan shen, ban lang gen, and gan cao, and depending on

which channel it is most affecting, add envoy herbs like huan niu xi and du huo

if primarily affecting kidney, or combine with Long Dan xie Gan Tang if

primarily affecting the liver.

Sorry for not reading more carefully.

Yehuda

Yangchu Higgins <ycmgh wrote:

Er... Isn't Pu Ji Xiao Du Yin for toxic heat in the

throat area? Do you find that it can work pretty much

anywhere?

y.c.

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Just came across this thread. Would you recommend Qing Dai Wan

(external formula: qing dai; huang bai; hua shi; shi gao) as a

topical application for shingles in combination with acupuncture and

internal herbs?

Chinese Medicine , yehuda frischman

< wrote:

>

> I'm sorry, you're right! Pu Ji Xiao Du Yin is not indicated for

toxic heat in the legs. I have used it successfully to treat

shingles, but affecting the face. The cases I treated were each wind

heat with toxic heat. However, shingles in the legs I would suggest

would probably be due to damp heat combined with toxic heat and

affecting the liver and/or kidneys. Remember that PJXDY treats

toxic fire (primarily) and clears wind heat (secondarily). I might

therefore, use the herbs in it that clear heat and relieve toxicity:

Huang Qin, huang lian, lian qiao, xuan shen, ban lang gen, and gan

cao, and depending on which channel it is most affecting, add envoy

herbs like huan niu xi and du huo if primarily affecting kidney, or

combine with Long Dan xie Gan Tang if primarily affecting the liver.

>

> Sorry for not reading more carefully.

>

> Yehuda

> Yangchu Higgins <ycmgh wrote:

> Er... Isn't Pu Ji Xiao Du Yin for toxic heat in the

> throat area? Do you find that it can work pretty much

> anywhere?

>

> y.c.

>

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May 4, 2007

Hi Stephen,

I have prepared Qing Dai San-Indigo powder (ground the 4 herbs, as follows:

Qing Dai 60 g, Shi Gao 120 g, Hua Shi 120 g, and Huang Bai 60g, mixed with

sesame oil (harmonizes the blood), and applied as a plaster) for lesions such as

shingles. Remember, though, that this powder is extremely reducing so use with

care in patients with blood or yin xu.

good luck,

Yehuda

Stephen Lamade <lhommedieu wrote: