Shingles

[Guest guest]

Carla Romaine wrote:

 

> My mother has recently been diagnosed with Shingles

> and in my research, I'm finding a lot of information

> on the drugs they use to treat it, but I'm not finding

> any information on how to treat the disease

> holistically. Does anyone have any information

> relevant to shingles?

 

Carla,

 

Drugs or herbs/supps/vitamins will heal the symptoms

but we all know it goes deeper than that. She can take

oatmeal baths or poultices for immediate relief. Plus, for

maintenance relief, these are the very basics: L-Lysine

(amino acid), 500 mg. twice a day, is important for healing.

Vitamin C plus bioflavinoids, 2,000 mg. twice a day, helps

in destroying the virus and boosts the immune system.

Cayenne capsules, taken as directed on the label, relieves pain

and helps healing. Zinc chelate, 80 mg. daily for one week,

protects against infection and helps immune system.

Calcium chelate plus magnesium, 1,500 mg. calcium and 750 mg.

magnesium per day, is an antisress formula and aids healing and

nerve function. Vitamin A emulsion, 75,000 IU for 2 weeks, then

50,000 IU, helps prevent infection and boosts immune system.

The emulsion enters the bloodstream quickly. Vitamin D, 1,000 IU

twice daily for 1 week then 400 IU, helps heal tissue and is needed

for calcium absorption. Vitamin E, 400-800 IU per day, helps

prevent scar tissue. (Open a capsule and apply to skin if desired).

Germanium, 200 mg. daily, helps immune system. Multivitamin and

mineral complex, taken as directed on the label. Avoid Tylenol-type

medications or those containing acetaminophen, because

they will prolong the illness.

Her body is crying out for some nurturance

in one way or another. We can only go so long without it before

it shows up in a symptom. The supplements above will relieve

pain and boost her immune system enough to fight off the virus. But

it's time for her to look at her life and make some deeper changes, in

probably several areas if she truly wants to heal.

 

Linda " DrNature "

http://www.DrNature.net

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[Guest guest]

I think I exhibit some characteristics of shingles but I am not sure. What

are characteristics of shingles? Do you need to catch the virus to get

shingles?

 

thanks

herk

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Hi There:

 

Shingles is a disorder caused by the same virus, herpes zoster, that causes

chicken pox. Like other herpes family viruses, it never leaves the system,

instead hibernating in the nerve tracks of the body in a particular area,

which tends to be individual. When a person who has contracted chicken pox

has a stress to their system later in life, which can be from another

illness or a strong emotional upset, the virus is reactivated and causes

shingles, which appear as blistering sores along the nerve track where they

have lain dormant.

 

Since there is no known 'cure' for this, the treatment is largely

palliative, in other words, treatment is aimed at controlling outbreaks and

treating symptoms. It can be extremely painful, and the pain can linger long

after the outbreak is over because of nerve involvement... there can also be

serious problems if it involves the eyes in its nerve track.

 

It is a myth that if shigles 'go all the way around the body' you will

die... however, it's not likely, since the nerves don't do that, and the

worst thing would be the pain, which might make you feel as if you were

dying. I know several people with this disorder and they have found it

imperative to keep their immune system in good shape and their stress levels

well managed. Many also take antiviral medication and dietary supplements

that support the skin and nerves.

 

Hope this helps.

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Linda,

 

Thanks so much for this information! I really

appreciate your getting back to me on this. I'm going

to the store today to pull together a package of stuff

for her.

 

Thanks again!

Carla

 

 

--- " Dr.Nature " <drnature wrote:

>

>

> Carla Romaine wrote:

>

> > My mother has recently been diagnosed with

> Shingles

> > and in my research, I'm finding a lot of

> information

> > on the drugs they use to treat it, but I'm not

> finding

> > any information on how to treat the disease

> > holistically. Does anyone have any information

> > relevant to shingles?

>

> Carla,

>

> Drugs or herbs/supps/vitamins will heal the

> symptoms

> but we all know it goes deeper than that. She

> can take

> oatmeal baths or poultices for immediate relief.

> Plus, for

> maintenance relief, these are the very basics:

> L-Lysine

> (amino acid), 500 mg. twice a day, is important for

> healing.

> Vitamin C plus bioflavinoids, 2,000 mg. twice a day,

> helps

> in destroying the virus and boosts the immune

> system.

> Cayenne capsules, taken as directed on the label,

> relieves pain

> and helps healing. Zinc chelate, 80 mg. daily for

> one week,

> protects against infection and helps immune system.

> Calcium chelate plus magnesium, 1,500 mg. calcium

> and 750 mg.

> magnesium per day, is an antisress formula and aids

> healing and

> nerve function. Vitamin A emulsion, 75,000 IU for 2

> weeks, then

> 50,000 IU, helps prevent infection and boosts immune

> system.

> The emulsion enters the bloodstream quickly. Vitamin

> D, 1,000 IU

> twice daily for 1 week then 400 IU, helps heal

> tissue and is needed

> for calcium absorption. Vitamin E, 400-800 IU per

> day, helps

> prevent scar tissue. (Open a capsule and apply to

> skin if desired).

> Germanium, 200 mg. daily, helps immune system.

> Multivitamin and

> mineral complex, taken as directed on the label.

> Avoid Tylenol-type

> medications or those containing acetaminophen,

> because

> they will prolong the illness.

> Her body is crying out for some nurturance

> in one way or another. We can only go so long

> without it before

> it shows up in a symptom. The supplements above

> will relieve

> pain and boost her immune system enough to fight off

> the virus. But

> it's time for her to look at her life and make some

> deeper changes, in

> probably several areas if she truly wants to heal.

>

> Linda " DrNature "

> http://www.DrNature.net

> http://www.LifeCoachingRadio.com

>

>

 

 

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Thanks Crow!

 

I'd love to get my mother on a program that helped her

immune system and lowered her stress levels. I've

been concerned about her health for quite a long time

now. She doesn't eat properly, exercise, or surround

herself with supportive people. She tends to

sacrifice her own health and feelings for the many

trials and tribulations of those around her. She's

really a very caring, kind woman more full of love

than anyone I know. It always strikes me as unfair

that such a loving person should seem to suffer

physically so much.

 

Unfortunately I don't live near her, but I often try

to show her better eating habits and ways to exercise,

etc. when I'm home. I can't shake the feeling that

this outbreak is a manifestation of her anger at her

surroundings. I think that there are a lot of people

" getting on her nerves " and that she doesn't like to

admit those feelings because she sees them as somehow

unholy (my mother is an extremely committed christian)

and that consequently she drives the feelings into

herself.

 

I feel torn--on the one hand I want to move near her

and " take command " and make her exercise and eat

right--i don't want her to die so soon. On the other

hand, I know it is not my responsibility and that I

would be intrusive if I acted that way. somehow the

middle ground i end up taking--suggesting foods,

giving her herbs to make teas with, etc. seems sort of

wimpy and i'm afraid that time is running out.

 

i think i'm just sort of venting here. thanks for

listening everyone.

 

-carla

 

 

 

--- Caroline Abreu <crow wrote:

> Hi There:

>

> Shingles is a disorder caused by the same virus,

> herpes zoster, that causes

> chicken pox. Like other herpes family viruses, it

> never leaves the system,

> instead hibernating in the nerve tracks of the body

> in a particular area,

> which tends to be individual. When a person who has

> contracted chicken pox

> has a stress to their system later in life, which

> can be from another

> illness or a strong emotional upset, the virus is

> reactivated and causes

> shingles, which appear as blistering sores along the

> nerve track where they

> have lain dormant.

>

> Since there is no known 'cure' for this, the

> treatment is largely

> palliative, in other words, treatment is aimed at

> controlling outbreaks and

> treating symptoms. It can be extremely painful, and

> the pain can linger long

> after the outbreak is over because of nerve

> involvement... there can also be

> serious problems if it involves the eyes in its

> nerve track.

>

> It is a myth that if shigles 'go all the way around

> the body' you will

> die... however, it's not likely, since the nerves

> don't do that, and the

> worst thing would be the pain, which might make you

> feel as if you were

> dying. I know several people with this disorder and

> they have found it

> imperative to keep their immune system in good shape

> and their stress levels

> well managed. Many also take antiviral medication

> and dietary supplements

> that support the skin and nerves.

>

> Hope this helps.

> Crow

>

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Herk,

 

Shingles is related to the chicken pox virus.

Typically the onset of shingles is marked by a sort of

rash-- an eruption of lesions of various sizes that

are fluid-filled. These eruptions tend to be on the

thoracic region of the body, but are not necessary

limited there. The eruptions then crust over and fall

off leaving scars. During this phase there may be

some nerve pain. Aferwards, more pronounced nerve

pain may be present--a condition called PHN. This

nerve pain can be quite painful.

 

I found several sites that give good information on

shingles:

 

http://www.healthylives.com/shingles.html

http://www.aftershingles.com/

http://www.ninds.nih.gov/health_and_medical/disorders/shingles_doc.htm

 

None of those sites mention anything about alternative

treatments. However, Linda wrote about some herbs

that can help, Rich wrote about a few holistic

remedies that help, and I found a doctor that does

alternative treatment:

 

http://www.drhui.com/

 

I hope this helps. Let me know if you need more

information since I'm now collecting it.

 

Thanks,

Carla

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- Jonathan Dunne <herkimar wrote:

>

>

> I think I exhibit some characteristics of shingles

> but I am not sure. What

> are characteristics of shingles? Do you need to

> catch the virus to get

> shingles?

>

> thanks

> herk

>

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I don't know much about it, although I have known people who got it. I believe

it is a form of the chickenpox virus and is very painful (nerve ending

assault?). Try one of the websites that features medical information like

mayo.com or such a site to find the info you are seeking.

 

I have one friend who got it (under heavy stress!) and a grandma that got it as

well. Both were fatigued and their nerve endings were quite painful!

 

Hope this tidbit helps...

 

:-) Take Care

Realpassion4life

[Guest guest]

Carla Romaine wrote:

 

> It always strikes me as unfair

> that such a loving person should seem to suffer

> physically so much.

 

Carla,

 

These two traits actually go hand in hand much

of the time. What we call a 'loving' person is usually

someone who is loving everyone else, but often not

giving themselves that same time and attention. It's

amazing that we do that! I did it myself for years.

And, I was miserable. Ill, unhappy, resentful. It

just doesn't work. Ultimately it's our life and we

have to put in the time to make it good in

everyway we can. This includes caring for others

and helping them out, but not to the exclusion

of ourselves. I know you know this, the trick

is to get your mother to understand it! Illness and

pain wake people up. It's unfortunate that most

people will only pay attention at that point. But

it is effective. So this may be a time of huge

growth for her.

I don't think your making suggestions to her is

wimpy. It's really all you can do. Point her in the

right directions and be there for her through the

ups and downs. I think you're considerate and

are doing the right things.

 

Linda

" DrNature "

http://www.DrNature.net

http://www.LifeCoachingRadio.com

[Guest guest]

Who needs a medical website, when you are here Crow!

 

You rock! THanks for the information

 

Realpassion4life

[Guest guest]

Thank you all for the information on shingles. I realized I don't have the

symptoms thank goodness but will take good measure to avoid it in the

future. Thanks again.

 

herk

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LOL... <<smmooochies>>

 

I'm not a doctor, I just play one on TV ;-)

 

It's still good to do that research for yourself and to seek the

guidance of health care professionals, since it's nigh on

impossible for us to really assess what is going on with each

other in an email discussion forum.

 

But I like to think I rock <G>

Crow

 

Realpassion4life wrote:

>

> Who needs a medical website, when you are here Crow!

>

> You rock! THanks for the information

>

> Realpassion4life

>

[Guest guest]

, Caroline Abreu <crow@c...> wrote:

> But I like to think I rock <G>

> Crow

 

 

I think so too Crow! :-)

Audrey

[Guest guest]

Carla:

 

I can sense your frustration and ambiguity, that's a big thing

for those of us in a sandwich generation. We would like to do

more for our children and for our parents/grandparents without

losing our own lives or compromising anyone's free will.

 

Feel free to vent, it is a good thing to explore. I'm sure

someone else here can contribute or profit from your " waffling "

:-)

 

Blessings,

Crow

 

Carla Romaine wrote:

>

>

> i think i'm just sort of venting here. thanks for

> listening everyone.

>

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Hi Vicki!

 

Shingles is indeed very painful and nothing to be taken lightly. I

developed shingles several years ago after my father passed away and none of

the medicines the Dr. gave me seemed to helped at first. We tried three

different ones altogether. My shingles attacked my right arm and

concentrated on a 3 inch area. Initially, it felt like a great wild beast

was biting through my arm just below my shoulder and the only thing there

was a wee red rash! I thought it was a spider bite because there was a

trail instead of a patch of rash.

 

Shingles causes stress from the pain and itching involved with nerves dying.

If the rash goes all the way around the body in the chest area, you could

lose breathing function which is why my Dr. checked immediately to see if I

had any on my back or chest. He cautioned me that if shingles gets in your

eyes you could lose your sight. While complementary treatments such as

Reiki and crystal elixirs will probably help, I do hope your husband is

seeing a good doctor. I know concentrating on relaxation and destressing

helped me immensely. I was over my shingles in a little more than a month

and they have not returned since.

 

Here are some sites on shingles to investigate:

http://www.ninds.nih.gov/health_and_medical/disorders/shingles_doc.htm#Is_th

ere_any_treatment

http://www.steen-hall.com/zoster.html

http://www.aftershingles.com/

 

Jean Rogers Clark

[Guest guest]

This is slightly OT - off topic - but perhaps Dr's wd be able to help

with shingles if they used a protocol like the one that includes

silver colloid drops and food grade hydrogen peroxide.

Check the info re these via www.google.com

karen

[Guest guest]

Shingles are a deep seated virus that tends to come up due to stress.

Therefore, anything that reduces stress will help. That includes good

nutrition in general.

 

As for MSM, it's a sulfur compound. I forget what the abbreviation stands

for. It's one of those complicated nutritional supplements that helps some

people and not others, and nobody knows for sure why.

 

>Does anyone know of anything to help with shingles? I think I

>remember something being said about MSM. What is MSM?

>

>Thanks,

>Pam S

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[Guest guest]

Janine-who has made a wonderful ointment that healed

my

shingles in 7 days! I'm ecstatic.

So Janine- do you sell this ointment? Have a website

addy? Recipe to share?

Judy (the curious one in OK)

 

 

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Hi Judy,

 

You're just like me, curiouser and curiouser. <g>

 

Yes I have a website, www.HerbaTherapy.com and yes, I have the ingredient list.

Olive oil, chaparral herb, neem oil, seabuckthorn seed oil, patchouli eo, and

other eo's that I can't remember right now, [ I gotta get to bed] but it's on my

website.

 

I have never in my life had this stuff heal so fast. It also heals my eczema,

which I get from everything, [and a doctor said it's related to asthma, it's an

allergy].

 

Janine

www.HerbaTherapy.com fade scars, relieve pain

 

 

 

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When my dad got it nothing seemed to work...he had to suffer thru it - of course, he would not do the cayenne as it doesn't agree with him.... a cayenne based cream would be the only thing I know to try.... Suzi

Dragonhealer wrote:

 

My mom has shingles. She is living with my sister in central California, so I can't help her directly. I did suggest that she have my sister buy her some astragalus to boost immune system function. Also suggested calendula cream to go with the capsacin ointment she has. They have her on all sorts of nasty drugs, so she is nauseous and has headaches too. My dad died of a global heart attack last year and I think the stress has weakened her immune system. I am not sure what else I can suggest for her since she is taking so many drugs. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

JanetFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

Try a tincture of Black Walnut applied externally and very frequently.

 

Don

 

-

Suzanne Nottmeier

herbal remedies

Friday, August 23, 2002 1:43 PM

Re: [herbal remedies] RE: Shingles

 

When my dad got it nothing seemed to work...he had to suffer thru it - of course, he would not do the cayenne as it doesn't agree with him.... a cayenne based cream would be the only thing I know to try.... Suzi Dragonhealer wrote:

My mom has shingles. She is living with my sister in central California, so I can't help her directly. I did suggest that she have my sister buy her some astragalus to boost immune system function. Also suggested calendula cream to go with the capsacin ointment she has. They have her on all sorts of nasty drugs, so she is nauseous and has headaches too. My dad died of a global heart attack last year and I think the stress has weakened her immune system. I am not sure what else I can suggest for her since she is taking so many drugs. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

JanetFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

I have suffered from shingles for years. I have found that if I take

L-Lysine when I first notice the symptoms, and daily during the

break out, that the attack sometimes abates immediately or the

duration is shortened-- I have gone so far as to forget to take them

once the discomfort stops and they return immediately. I have

recently begun to take colloidial silver(2 weeks ago) and noticed

that the attack that normally occurs on a monthly basis consisted of

only one small bump present for about 8 hours then gone. It will be

interesting to see if it becomes more effective, as I had been

taking it only about 5 days before the break out occured.

[Guest guest]

I hate to always harp about acupuncture/TCM but it has

researched effectiveness in so many areas. So with

shingles it has about an 80% success rate. I have seen

2 cases with total success, 6 months no return of

symptoms.herbs depend on the chinese diagnosis.

bob

--- Don Eitner <eitner.d wrote:

> Suzi,

>

> No I personally have not used it. This is a Dr.

> Christopher remedy and is said to be quite

> effective. I have never known anyone who has had

> shingles in my 50 years of life. I guess I have

> lived a sheltered life or something ).

>

> Don

> -

> Suzanne Nottmeier

> herbal remedies

> Friday, August 23, 2002 5:14 PM

> Re: [herbal remedies] RE: Shingles

>

>

> Don,

>

> Have you used this for shingles??? Did it work?

>

> Suzi

>

> Don Eitner wrote:

>

> Try a tincture of Black Walnut applied

> externally and very frequently.

>

> Don

> -

> Suzanne Nottmeier

> herbal remedies

> Friday, August 23, 2002 1:43 PM

> Re: [herbal remedies] RE: Shingles

>

>

> When my dad got it nothing seemed to work...he

> had to suffer thru it - of course, he would not do

> the cayenne as it doesn't agree with him.... a

> cayenne based cream would be the only thing I know

> to try....

>

> Suzi

>

> Dragonhealer wrote:

>

> My mom has shingles. She is living with my

> sister in central California, so I can't help her

> directly. I did suggest that she have my sister buy

> her some astragalus to boost immune system function.

> Also suggested calendula cream to go with the

> capsacin ointment she has. They have her on all

> sorts of nasty drugs, so she is nauseous and has

> headaches too. My dad died of a global heart attack

> last year and I think the stress has weakened her

> immune system. I am not sure what else I can suggest

> for her since she is taking so many drugs. Any

> suggestions would be appreciated.

>

> Janet

>

>

> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the

> following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your

> physician before using any natural remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right

> to be your own physician and to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are

> welcome to post here as long as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members

> are exactly that, and any person

> following the advice of anyone posting here

> does so at their own risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By

> accepting advice or products from list members, you

> are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health,

> and hold the List Owner and members free of any

> liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have saved an article about a possible " cure " , and I hope you will be

able to find more information about the treatment. Also, you might find

something useful in these messages to another list --

http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/search.html?query=frangipani

 

Roman

 

 

 

Horizon

Thursday, March 25, 1999

--

 

Local cure for herpes found

By CATHERINE MGENDI

Local researchers have identified a plant whose sap can effectively

treat skin infections caused by the herpes virus without causing any

side effects, a conference on infections control heard recently.

 

According to Mr James Muthotho, a microbiologist with the Kenya Medical

Research Institute (Kemri), the plant has been shown to " virtually cure "

herpes zoster, an itchy, painful skin infection characterised by

blistering.

 

Herpes zoster is caused by the varicella virus, which also causes

chicken pox in children, according to medical experts.

 

It is boosted by a depressed immunity, mainly resulting from HIV

infection as well as from cancer drugs and radiotherapy, doctors say.

 

The frangipani plant's extract also treats the less traumatic herpes

simplex which manifests itself as recurrent cold sores around the mouth,

Mr Muthotho says.

 

He unveiled these findings during the recently concluded scientific

conference of the Infections Control Association of Kenya held in

Nairobi.

 

Mr Muthotho says they have been studying the efficacy of the frangipani

plant, plumeria rubra of the Apocynaceae family, for the past five

years, and have successfully treated more than 130 people suffering from

herpes zoster.

 

The plant, which can grow more than two metres high and is vegetatively

propagated through the use of cuttings, is commonly referred to as the

`peace plant' as it is most commonly found in graveyards.

 

The frangipani sap, Mr Muthotho says, stops the itchiness of herpes

zoster sores, healing them without leaving any scars. It also kills the

intense, recurrent post-treatment pain, and prevents recurrence, unlike

the conventional drugs.

 

The microbiologist says the sap works by permeating the nervous system

cells to kill the herpes zoster virus eradicating the pain, and any

possibility of recurrence.

 

" During application, one experiences a burning sensation. However,

within 10 to 20 minutes, the pain in the lesions reduces dramatically, "

he says.

 

He adds that conventional medicines only dry up the blisters and do not

exterminate the virus, thus the recurrence of pain.

 

" The lesions heal without scar tissue formation or secondary bacterial

infections, " he says. " The drug Ipan (the plant sap) is safe and

efficacious. "

 

In some people, Mr Muthotho says, herpes zoster infection causes

restricted chest movements during breathing, which clear within two

hours of applying the sap.

 

 

 

> Dragonhealer wrote:

>

> My mom has shingles. She is living with my sister in central

> California, so I can't help her directly. I did suggest that she have

> my sister buy her some astragalus to boost immune system function.

> Also suggested calendula cream to go with the capsacin ointment she

> has. They have her on all sorts of nasty drugs, so she is nauseous and

> has headaches too. My dad died of a global heart attack last year and

> I think the stress has weakened her immune system. I am not sure what

> else I can suggest for her since she is taking so many drugs. Any

> suggestions would be appreciated.

>

> Janet

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