Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 Carla Romaine wrote: > My mother has recently been diagnosed with Shingles > and in my research, I'm finding a lot of information > on the drugs they use to treat it, but I'm not finding > any information on how to treat the disease > holistically. Does anyone have any information > relevant to shingles? Carla, Drugs or herbs/supps/vitamins will heal the symptoms but we all know it goes deeper than that. She can take oatmeal baths or poultices for immediate relief. Plus, for maintenance relief, these are the very basics: L-Lysine (amino acid), 500 mg. twice a day, is important for healing. Vitamin C plus bioflavinoids, 2,000 mg. twice a day, helps in destroying the virus and boosts the immune system. Cayenne capsules, taken as directed on the label, relieves pain and helps healing. Zinc chelate, 80 mg. daily for one week, protects against infection and helps immune system. Calcium chelate plus magnesium, 1,500 mg. calcium and 750 mg. magnesium per day, is an antisress formula and aids healing and nerve function. Vitamin A emulsion, 75,000 IU for 2 weeks, then 50,000 IU, helps prevent infection and boosts immune system. The emulsion enters the bloodstream quickly. Vitamin D, 1,000 IU twice daily for 1 week then 400 IU, helps heal tissue and is needed for calcium absorption. Vitamin E, 400-800 IU per day, helps prevent scar tissue. (Open a capsule and apply to skin if desired). Germanium, 200 mg. daily, helps immune system. Multivitamin and mineral complex, taken as directed on the label. Avoid Tylenol-type medications or those containing acetaminophen, because they will prolong the illness. Her body is crying out for some nurturance in one way or another. We can only go so long without it before it shows up in a symptom. The supplements above will relieve pain and boost her immune system enough to fight off the virus. But it's time for her to look at her life and make some deeper changes, in probably several areas if she truly wants to heal. Linda " DrNature " http://www.DrNature.net http://www.LifeCoachingRadio.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 I think I exhibit some characteristics of shingles but I am not sure. What are characteristics of shingles? Do you need to catch the virus to get shingles? thanks herk _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 Hi There: Shingles is a disorder caused by the same virus, herpes zoster, that causes chicken pox. Like other herpes family viruses, it never leaves the system, instead hibernating in the nerve tracks of the body in a particular area, which tends to be individual. When a person who has contracted chicken pox has a stress to their system later in life, which can be from another illness or a strong emotional upset, the virus is reactivated and causes shingles, which appear as blistering sores along the nerve track where they have lain dormant. Since there is no known 'cure' for this, the treatment is largely palliative, in other words, treatment is aimed at controlling outbreaks and treating symptoms. It can be extremely painful, and the pain can linger long after the outbreak is over because of nerve involvement... there can also be serious problems if it involves the eyes in its nerve track. It is a myth that if shigles 'go all the way around the body' you will die... however, it's not likely, since the nerves don't do that, and the worst thing would be the pain, which might make you feel as if you were dying. I know several people with this disorder and they have found it imperative to keep their immune system in good shape and their stress levels well managed. Many also take antiviral medication and dietary supplements that support the skin and nerves. Hope this helps. Crow _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 Linda, Thanks so much for this information! I really appreciate your getting back to me on this. I'm going to the store today to pull together a package of stuff for her. Thanks again! Carla --- " Dr.Nature " <drnature wrote: > > > Carla Romaine wrote: > > > My mother has recently been diagnosed with > Shingles > > and in my research, I'm finding a lot of > information > > on the drugs they use to treat it, but I'm not > finding > > any information on how to treat the disease > > holistically. Does anyone have any information > > relevant to shingles? > > Carla, > > Drugs or herbs/supps/vitamins will heal the > symptoms > but we all know it goes deeper than that. She > can take > oatmeal baths or poultices for immediate relief. > Plus, for > maintenance relief, these are the very basics: > L-Lysine > (amino acid), 500 mg. twice a day, is important for > healing. > Vitamin C plus bioflavinoids, 2,000 mg. twice a day, > helps > in destroying the virus and boosts the immune > system. > Cayenne capsules, taken as directed on the label, > relieves pain > and helps healing. Zinc chelate, 80 mg. daily for > one week, > protects against infection and helps immune system. > Calcium chelate plus magnesium, 1,500 mg. calcium > and 750 mg. > magnesium per day, is an antisress formula and aids > healing and > nerve function. Vitamin A emulsion, 75,000 IU for 2 > weeks, then > 50,000 IU, helps prevent infection and boosts immune > system. > The emulsion enters the bloodstream quickly. Vitamin > D, 1,000 IU > twice daily for 1 week then 400 IU, helps heal > tissue and is needed > for calcium absorption. Vitamin E, 400-800 IU per > day, helps > prevent scar tissue. (Open a capsule and apply to > skin if desired). > Germanium, 200 mg. daily, helps immune system. > Multivitamin and > mineral complex, taken as directed on the label. > Avoid Tylenol-type > medications or those containing acetaminophen, > because > they will prolong the illness. > Her body is crying out for some nurturance > in one way or another. We can only go so long > without it before > it shows up in a symptom. The supplements above > will relieve > pain and boost her immune system enough to fight off > the virus. But > it's time for her to look at her life and make some > deeper changes, in > probably several areas if she truly wants to heal. > > Linda " DrNature " > http://www.DrNature.net > http://www.LifeCoachingRadio.com > > ===== _______ X is the answer! _______ Get personalized email addresses from Mail http://personal.mail./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 Thanks Crow! I'd love to get my mother on a program that helped her immune system and lowered her stress levels. I've been concerned about her health for quite a long time now. She doesn't eat properly, exercise, or surround herself with supportive people. She tends to sacrifice her own health and feelings for the many trials and tribulations of those around her. She's really a very caring, kind woman more full of love than anyone I know. It always strikes me as unfair that such a loving person should seem to suffer physically so much. Unfortunately I don't live near her, but I often try to show her better eating habits and ways to exercise, etc. when I'm home. I can't shake the feeling that this outbreak is a manifestation of her anger at her surroundings. I think that there are a lot of people " getting on her nerves " and that she doesn't like to admit those feelings because she sees them as somehow unholy (my mother is an extremely committed christian) and that consequently she drives the feelings into herself. I feel torn--on the one hand I want to move near her and " take command " and make her exercise and eat right--i don't want her to die so soon. On the other hand, I know it is not my responsibility and that I would be intrusive if I acted that way. somehow the middle ground i end up taking--suggesting foods, giving her herbs to make teas with, etc. seems sort of wimpy and i'm afraid that time is running out. i think i'm just sort of venting here. thanks for listening everyone. -carla --- Caroline Abreu <crow wrote: > Hi There: > > Shingles is a disorder caused by the same virus, > herpes zoster, that causes > chicken pox. Like other herpes family viruses, it > never leaves the system, > instead hibernating in the nerve tracks of the body > in a particular area, > which tends to be individual. When a person who has > contracted chicken pox > has a stress to their system later in life, which > can be from another > illness or a strong emotional upset, the virus is > reactivated and causes > shingles, which appear as blistering sores along the > nerve track where they > have lain dormant. > > Since there is no known 'cure' for this, the > treatment is largely > palliative, in other words, treatment is aimed at > controlling outbreaks and > treating symptoms. It can be extremely painful, and > the pain can linger long > after the outbreak is over because of nerve > involvement... there can also be > serious problems if it involves the eyes in its > nerve track. > > It is a myth that if shigles 'go all the way around > the body' you will > die... however, it's not likely, since the nerves > don't do that, and the > worst thing would be the pain, which might make you > feel as if you were > dying. I know several people with this disorder and > they have found it > imperative to keep their immune system in good shape > and their stress levels > well managed. Many also take antiviral medication > and dietary supplements > that support the skin and nerves. > > Hope this helps. > Crow > _______________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ===== _______ X is the answer! _______ Get personalized email addresses from Mail http://personal.mail./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 Herk, Shingles is related to the chicken pox virus. Typically the onset of shingles is marked by a sort of rash-- an eruption of lesions of various sizes that are fluid-filled. These eruptions tend to be on the thoracic region of the body, but are not necessary limited there. The eruptions then crust over and fall off leaving scars. During this phase there may be some nerve pain. Aferwards, more pronounced nerve pain may be present--a condition called PHN. This nerve pain can be quite painful. I found several sites that give good information on shingles: http://www.healthylives.com/shingles.html http://www.aftershingles.com/ http://www.ninds.nih.gov/health_and_medical/disorders/shingles_doc.htm None of those sites mention anything about alternative treatments. However, Linda wrote about some herbs that can help, Rich wrote about a few holistic remedies that help, and I found a doctor that does alternative treatment: http://www.drhui.com/ I hope this helps. Let me know if you need more information since I'm now collecting it. Thanks, Carla --- Jonathan Dunne <herkimar wrote: > > > I think I exhibit some characteristics of shingles > but I am not sure. What > are characteristics of shingles? Do you need to > catch the virus to get > shingles? > > thanks > herk > _______________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com > > ===== _______ X is the answer! _______ Get personalized email addresses from Mail http://personal.mail./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 I don't know much about it, although I have known people who got it. I believe it is a form of the chickenpox virus and is very painful (nerve ending assault?). Try one of the websites that features medical information like mayo.com or such a site to find the info you are seeking. I have one friend who got it (under heavy stress!) and a grandma that got it as well. Both were fatigued and their nerve endings were quite painful! Hope this tidbit helps... :-) Take Care Realpassion4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 Carla Romaine wrote: > It always strikes me as unfair > that such a loving person should seem to suffer > physically so much. Carla, These two traits actually go hand in hand much of the time. What we call a 'loving' person is usually someone who is loving everyone else, but often not giving themselves that same time and attention. It's amazing that we do that! I did it myself for years. And, I was miserable. Ill, unhappy, resentful. It just doesn't work. Ultimately it's our life and we have to put in the time to make it good in everyway we can. This includes caring for others and helping them out, but not to the exclusion of ourselves. I know you know this, the trick is to get your mother to understand it! Illness and pain wake people up. It's unfortunate that most people will only pay attention at that point. But it is effective. So this may be a time of huge growth for her. I don't think your making suggestions to her is wimpy. It's really all you can do. Point her in the right directions and be there for her through the ups and downs. I think you're considerate and are doing the right things. Linda " DrNature " http://www.DrNature.net http://www.LifeCoachingRadio.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 Who needs a medical website, when you are here Crow! You rock! THanks for the information Realpassion4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2001 Report Share Posted June 29, 2001 Thank you all for the information on shingles. I realized I don't have the symptoms thank goodness but will take good measure to avoid it in the future. Thanks again. herk _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2001 Report Share Posted June 29, 2001 LOL... <<smmooochies>> I'm not a doctor, I just play one on TV ;-) It's still good to do that research for yourself and to seek the guidance of health care professionals, since it's nigh on impossible for us to really assess what is going on with each other in an email discussion forum. But I like to think I rock <G> Crow Realpassion4life wrote: > > Who needs a medical website, when you are here Crow! > > You rock! THanks for the information > > Realpassion4life > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2001 Report Share Posted June 29, 2001 , Caroline Abreu <crow@c...> wrote: > But I like to think I rock <G> > Crow I think so too Crow! :-) Audrey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2001 Report Share Posted June 29, 2001 Carla: I can sense your frustration and ambiguity, that's a big thing for those of us in a sandwich generation. We would like to do more for our children and for our parents/grandparents without losing our own lives or compromising anyone's free will. Feel free to vent, it is a good thing to explore. I'm sure someone else here can contribute or profit from your " waffling " :-) Blessings, Crow Carla Romaine wrote: > > > i think i'm just sort of venting here. thanks for > listening everyone. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2001 Report Share Posted August 13, 2001 I have in my notes that blackor green tourmaline or kyanite is good. *~~*~~*~~ Linda in Florida ~~*~~*~~* The grass isn't greener on the other side...It's greener where you water it! ;o) ³³´`*:§»«§:*´`³³³´`*:§»«§:*´`³³³³´`*:§»«§:*´`³³³´`*:§»«§:*´`³³ email protected by http://www.grisoft.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2001 Report Share Posted August 14, 2001 Hi Vicki! Shingles is indeed very painful and nothing to be taken lightly. I developed shingles several years ago after my father passed away and none of the medicines the Dr. gave me seemed to helped at first. We tried three different ones altogether. My shingles attacked my right arm and concentrated on a 3 inch area. Initially, it felt like a great wild beast was biting through my arm just below my shoulder and the only thing there was a wee red rash! I thought it was a spider bite because there was a trail instead of a patch of rash. Shingles causes stress from the pain and itching involved with nerves dying. If the rash goes all the way around the body in the chest area, you could lose breathing function which is why my Dr. checked immediately to see if I had any on my back or chest. He cautioned me that if shingles gets in your eyes you could lose your sight. While complementary treatments such as Reiki and crystal elixirs will probably help, I do hope your husband is seeing a good doctor. I know concentrating on relaxation and destressing helped me immensely. I was over my shingles in a little more than a month and they have not returned since. Here are some sites on shingles to investigate: http://www.ninds.nih.gov/health_and_medical/disorders/shingles_doc.htm#Is_th ere_any_treatment http://www.steen-hall.com/zoster.html http://www.aftershingles.com/ Jean Rogers Clark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2001 Report Share Posted August 15, 2001 This is slightly OT - off topic - but perhaps Dr's wd be able to help with shingles if they used a protocol like the one that includes silver colloid drops and food grade hydrogen peroxide. Check the info re these via www.google.com karen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2002 Report Share Posted March 24, 2002 Shingles are a deep seated virus that tends to come up due to stress. Therefore, anything that reduces stress will help. That includes good nutrition in general. As for MSM, it's a sulfur compound. I forget what the abbreviation stands for. It's one of those complicated nutritional supplements that helps some people and not others, and nobody knows for sure why. >Does anyone know of anything to help with shingles? I think I >remember something being said about MSM. What is MSM? > >Thanks, >Pam S -------------------------------~-> -- Michael Riversong P.O. Box 2776 Cheyenne, Wyomng 82003 (307)635-0900 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2002 Report Share Posted May 5, 2002 Janine-who has made a wonderful ointment that healed my shingles in 7 days! I'm ecstatic. So Janine- do you sell this ointment? Have a website addy? Recipe to share? Judy (the curious one in OK) ===== Help save the world -FOR FREE- Visit: http://www.oneclickatatime.org You KNOW you need it! http://www.prepaidlegal.com/info/leeroberts What on earth do I have on ebay now? BBQ sign! http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/earthfinds/ Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2002 Report Share Posted May 6, 2002 Hi Judy, You're just like me, curiouser and curiouser. <g> Yes I have a website, www.HerbaTherapy.com and yes, I have the ingredient list. Olive oil, chaparral herb, neem oil, seabuckthorn seed oil, patchouli eo, and other eo's that I can't remember right now, [ I gotta get to bed] but it's on my website. I have never in my life had this stuff heal so fast. It also heals my eczema, which I get from everything, [and a doctor said it's related to asthma, it's an allergy]. Janine www.HerbaTherapy.com fade scars, relieve pain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2002 Report Share Posted August 23, 2002 When my dad got it nothing seemed to work...he had to suffer thru it - of course, he would not do the cayenne as it doesn't agree with him.... a cayenne based cream would be the only thing I know to try.... Suzi Dragonhealer wrote: My mom has shingles. She is living with my sister in central California, so I can't help her directly. I did suggest that she have my sister buy her some astragalus to boost immune system function. Also suggested calendula cream to go with the capsacin ointment she has. They have her on all sorts of nasty drugs, so she is nauseous and has headaches too. My dad died of a global heart attack last year and I think the stress has weakened her immune system. I am not sure what else I can suggest for her since she is taking so many drugs. Any suggestions would be appreciated. JanetFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2002 Report Share Posted August 23, 2002 Try a tincture of Black Walnut applied externally and very frequently. Don - Suzanne Nottmeier herbal remedies Friday, August 23, 2002 1:43 PM Re: [herbal remedies] RE: Shingles When my dad got it nothing seemed to work...he had to suffer thru it - of course, he would not do the cayenne as it doesn't agree with him.... a cayenne based cream would be the only thing I know to try.... Suzi Dragonhealer wrote: My mom has shingles. She is living with my sister in central California, so I can't help her directly. I did suggest that she have my sister buy her some astragalus to boost immune system function. Also suggested calendula cream to go with the capsacin ointment she has. They have her on all sorts of nasty drugs, so she is nauseous and has headaches too. My dad died of a global heart attack last year and I think the stress has weakened her immune system. I am not sure what else I can suggest for her since she is taking so many drugs. Any suggestions would be appreciated. JanetFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2002 Report Share Posted August 23, 2002 I have suffered from shingles for years. I have found that if I take L-Lysine when I first notice the symptoms, and daily during the break out, that the attack sometimes abates immediately or the duration is shortened-- I have gone so far as to forget to take them once the discomfort stops and they return immediately. I have recently begun to take colloidial silver(2 weeks ago) and noticed that the attack that normally occurs on a monthly basis consisted of only one small bump present for about 8 hours then gone. It will be interesting to see if it becomes more effective, as I had been taking it only about 5 days before the break out occured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2002 Report Share Posted August 24, 2002 I hate to always harp about acupuncture/TCM but it has researched effectiveness in so many areas. So with shingles it has about an 80% success rate. I have seen 2 cases with total success, 6 months no return of symptoms.herbs depend on the chinese diagnosis. bob --- Don Eitner <eitner.d wrote: > Suzi, > > No I personally have not used it. This is a Dr. > Christopher remedy and is said to be quite > effective. I have never known anyone who has had > shingles in my 50 years of life. I guess I have > lived a sheltered life or something ). > > Don > - > Suzanne Nottmeier > herbal remedies > Friday, August 23, 2002 5:14 PM > Re: [herbal remedies] RE: Shingles > > > Don, > > Have you used this for shingles??? Did it work? > > Suzi > > Don Eitner wrote: > > Try a tincture of Black Walnut applied > externally and very frequently. > > Don > - > Suzanne Nottmeier > herbal remedies > Friday, August 23, 2002 1:43 PM > Re: [herbal remedies] RE: Shingles > > > When my dad got it nothing seemed to work...he > had to suffer thru it - of course, he would not do > the cayenne as it doesn't agree with him.... a > cayenne based cream would be the only thing I know > to try.... > > Suzi > > Dragonhealer wrote: > > My mom has shingles. She is living with my > sister in central California, so I can't help her > directly. I did suggest that she have my sister buy > her some astragalus to boost immune system function. > Also suggested calendula cream to go with the > capsacin ointment she has. They have her on all > sorts of nasty drugs, so she is nauseous and has > headaches too. My dad died of a global heart attack > last year and I think the stress has weakened her > immune system. I am not sure what else I can suggest > for her since she is taking so many drugs. Any > suggestions would be appreciated. > > Janet > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the > following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your > physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right > to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are > welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members > are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here > does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By > accepting advice or products from list members, you > are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, > and hold the List Owner and members free of any > liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2002 Report Share Posted August 24, 2002 I have saved an article about a possible " cure " , and I hope you will be able to find more information about the treatment. Also, you might find something useful in these messages to another list -- http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/search.html?query=frangipani Roman Horizon Thursday, March 25, 1999 -- Local cure for herpes found By CATHERINE MGENDI Local researchers have identified a plant whose sap can effectively treat skin infections caused by the herpes virus without causing any side effects, a conference on infections control heard recently. According to Mr James Muthotho, a microbiologist with the Kenya Medical Research Institute (Kemri), the plant has been shown to " virtually cure " herpes zoster, an itchy, painful skin infection characterised by blistering. Herpes zoster is caused by the varicella virus, which also causes chicken pox in children, according to medical experts. It is boosted by a depressed immunity, mainly resulting from HIV infection as well as from cancer drugs and radiotherapy, doctors say. The frangipani plant's extract also treats the less traumatic herpes simplex which manifests itself as recurrent cold sores around the mouth, Mr Muthotho says. He unveiled these findings during the recently concluded scientific conference of the Infections Control Association of Kenya held in Nairobi. Mr Muthotho says they have been studying the efficacy of the frangipani plant, plumeria rubra of the Apocynaceae family, for the past five years, and have successfully treated more than 130 people suffering from herpes zoster. The plant, which can grow more than two metres high and is vegetatively propagated through the use of cuttings, is commonly referred to as the `peace plant' as it is most commonly found in graveyards. The frangipani sap, Mr Muthotho says, stops the itchiness of herpes zoster sores, healing them without leaving any scars. It also kills the intense, recurrent post-treatment pain, and prevents recurrence, unlike the conventional drugs. The microbiologist says the sap works by permeating the nervous system cells to kill the herpes zoster virus eradicating the pain, and any possibility of recurrence. " During application, one experiences a burning sensation. However, within 10 to 20 minutes, the pain in the lesions reduces dramatically, " he says. He adds that conventional medicines only dry up the blisters and do not exterminate the virus, thus the recurrence of pain. " The lesions heal without scar tissue formation or secondary bacterial infections, " he says. " The drug Ipan (the plant sap) is safe and efficacious. " In some people, Mr Muthotho says, herpes zoster infection causes restricted chest movements during breathing, which clear within two hours of applying the sap. > Dragonhealer wrote: > > My mom has shingles. She is living with my sister in central > California, so I can't help her directly. I did suggest that she have > my sister buy her some astragalus to boost immune system function. > Also suggested calendula cream to go with the capsacin ointment she > has. They have her on all sorts of nasty drugs, so she is nauseous and > has headaches too. My dad died of a global heart attack last year and > I think the stress has weakened her immune system. I am not sure what > else I can suggest for her since she is taking so many drugs. Any > suggestions would be appreciated. > > Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2002 Report Share Posted August 24, 2002 The rules also state: Furthermore, there is a tremendous amount of false data, and confusion in the Natural Health Industry, for it has been covertly infiltrated by the giant Pharmaceuticals, and one of the main purposes of the list is to eradicate the bad information and promote tried and true solutions that address the true Cause of illness and which work. Please state whether you have used the remedies or know someone who has successfully used the remedy you are giving. Suzi Lisa Belcher wrote: Please view the policies of this group, noting #10 especially at:herbal remediesherbal remedies%20List%20Policies/General%20List%20PoliciesIf you have any disagreements with these policies, you are welcome to leavethe group.Any information you want to give other members, you'll have to do anotherway. Try copy+paste.Lisa BelcherModerator-"Roman" Saturday, August 24, 2002 10:26 AMRe: [herbal remedies] RE: Shingles> Lisa,>> Would you suggest an alternative way to point members to sources of> useful information? It's for their sake, you know.>> Roman>>> Lisa Belcher wrote:> >> > Dear Roman,> >> > WARNING: absolutely NO URL's of other lists allowed. Please make note.> >> > Lisa Belcher> > Moderator> >> > -> > "Roman" > > > > Saturday, August 24, 2002 8:27 AM> > Re: [herbal remedies] RE: Shingles> >> > > I have saved an article about a possible "cure", and I hope you willbe> > > able to find more information about the treatment. Also, you mightfind> > > something useful in these messages to another list --> > > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/search.html?query=frangipani> > >> > > Roman> > >> > >> > >> > > Horizon> > > Thursday, March 25, 1999> >> -------->>> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any naturalremedy.> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician andto> prescribe for your own health.> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as longas> they behave themselves.> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and anyperson> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products fromlist members, you are agreeing to> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner andmembers free of any liability.>> Dr. Ian Shillington> Doctor of Naturopathy> Dr.IanShillington> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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