Guest guest Report post Posted January 1, 2002 I have found that with the bitter greens a piece of apple makes the juice palatable donna In a message dated 12/31/01 1:57:06 PM, marianne2406 writes: << > antioxidant content of broccoli, which means they may > protect against cancer, stroke and heart disease. > >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 1, 2002 There is also a vegetable lecithin ofr those who cant tolerate soy donna In a message dated 12/31/01 11:49:29 PM, joguest writes: << --- Are you saying it's soy lecithin. I've found soy is the best for lecithin and use quite a bit of it. I agree...one must be careful of the source! I try and get animal based supplements such as liver supplements from an organic source, sometimes Argentina,... anywhere but the U.S. LOL >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 1, 2002 I have a theory but its just my opinion and not an expert one either. I would think that we all make our health way too complicated. It would seem we were created to be healthy and our natural instincts are to drink when we are thirsty and to eat when we are hungry. I think if we watch small children (ones who haven't been inudated with tons of junk food) and notice what they eat and when, you will see they do not overeat or eat any one particular thing too much. I notice most of the time my youngest (who's 3) drinks lots of water....but every so often, he prefers juice. He also goes through days when he wants mostly nuts or fruit or carrots...then suddenly one day he will want chicken or soup. He is in extremely good shape and is very healthy and lean. I think we were meant to eat things in their raw state when possible and to help promote healthy teeth, we need to eat crunchy things, which most veggies are when they are in their raw state. I think we only need milk from our mothers when we are babies and no dairy after that. After all, all animals were designed that way. Not that we are animals but we are living beings designed to have our needs met easily from things grown on the Earth. I think we were designed to get our physical bodies in shape and keep them that way by having to grow and sow our food. Life is so complicated now and with our incredible technology we have evolved ourselves into unhealthy soft out-of-shape people who think nuking our food is quick and easy. I know what I am saying sounds like some hippie from the sixties who is thinking like a natural commune way of life but really I think it is possible today without the whole freaky hippie side efffects. If we can't grow our own food then we can buy it locally and get organic whenever possible. I think raw is the best choice and slightly steamed or quickly stir fried is a good second choice. Juicing can be a great thing to do to get the nutrients we won't otherwise get on our own with normal eating. I think it's just one of the things you do not the only thing you do. I have been radically changing the way I eat lately and I am feeling better than I have since high school (and that was a long long time ago) I eat very little processed foods like breads or pasta and mostly eat only fruits and veggies. I take several supplements and make sure I never miss taking the fish oil caps. I am feeling so much better. I was a total junk food junkie. I used to make Rosie O'Donnel look like a health freak with my food habits. I think I lived on Pepsi, chocolate, pasta and french fries for years. If I can change this much then anyone can. If you're really feeling sick and are sick of feeling that way, then give this a try. Arizona > So I'm open to hear more about juicing vs the body's need for fiber. > > Blessings > Francie Arizona Hughes -------- Please stop by and visit my Website listed below http://members.aol.com/artistdesigner/Arizona_Hughes/Page_1x.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 1, 2002 --- Lewis Labs. Do they have a website? Thanks! JoAnn " Alobar " <alobar@b...> wrote: > I have found that the granules from Lewis Labs have the best flavor > & dissolve most readily when mixing with fruits or veggies in my blender. > > Alobar > > > - > " mrsjoguest " <joguest@m...> > <Gettingwell> > Monday, December 31, 2001 7:16 PM > Re: juicing > > > > --- Oh, do tell...I'm looking for a good lecithin right at the > > moment. I previously tried a liquid lecithin w/o much success. Which > > brand is best in your estimation? > > > > Regards, JoAnn > > > > JoAnn Guest > > joguest@m... > > Friendsforhealthnaturally > > http://canceranswer.homestead.com/AIM.html > > > > " Lu " <demi111@m...> wrote: > > > Oh I love cranberries too....good one. Have you tried adding > > lecithin granules and crushed flax (organic)? I follow ER4YT and so > > I stay clear of coconut but it sounds delicious! ;-) > > > Sincerely, > > > Lulu > > > - > > > the desert_rat > > > Gettingwell > > > Monday, December 31, 2001 10:28 AM > > > juicing > > > > > > > > > Is There Anything I Can Add to Make The Juice Taste Better? > > > > > > My favorite addition is coconut. You can purchase the whole coconut > > or > > > use shredded coconut. They add a delightful flavor and are an > > excellent > > > source of fat to balance the meal. The have medium chain > > triglycierides > > > which have many health benefits. > > > > > > I have recently started juicing fresh cranberries and they have > > improved > > > the taste immensely. Researchers have discovered that cranberries > > have > > > five times the antioxidant content of broccoli, which means they may > > > protect against cancer, stroke and heart disease. > > > > > > You can also add a small piece of lemon and fresh ginger if you can > > > tolerate them. > > > > > > http://www.mercola.com/forms/juicing.htm > > > _____________ > > > Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at > > > http://www.mail2world.com > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 1, 2002 --- Hi Donna, This is interesting to me as I originally thought that all lecithin was soy-based. Do you aware of the manufacturer? Also do they have a website? Thanks so much! JoAnn JoAnn Guest joguest Friendsforhealthnaturally http://www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/GoodCholesterol.html dfnewman@a... wrote: > There is also a vegetable lecithin ofr those who cant tolerate soy > donna > In a message dated 12/31/01 11:49:29 PM, joguest@m... writes: > > << --- Are you saying it's soy lecithin. I've found soy is the best for > lecithin and use quite a bit of it. I agree...one must be careful of > the source! I try and get animal based supplements such as liver > supplements from an organic source, sometimes Argentina,... anywhere > but the U.S. LOL >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 1, 2002 That's kinda what I thought. Greetings back to you on the New Year. I was not up early this morning, but not yet to bed. I am a Tarot card reader out on Jackson Square in New Orleans & was outside working the holiday crowd most of the night. I was probably one of the few sober people out in the French Quarter after 3AM. Alobar - " the desert_rat " <ron Tuesday, January 01, 2002 7:20 AM Re: juicing > Hi Alobar, > My guess is that once the juicer/blender has broken down the plant the > juices would be readily absorbed in the stomach and the pulp " goes down > and 'round whoa whoa whoa and it.... " you probably know the words to > the old song. > > You got up early today. You are the first email in the new year. Hope > you and everyone has a healthy one. > > Ron > _____________ > Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at > http://www.mail2world.com > > <> > > > > Alobar > > 1/1/2002 5:04:56 AM > > Gettingwell > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > I am curious. Why does it matter if the > > good stuff in the juice is > > > > absorbed into the body all at once (watery juice) or slowly over the > time it > > > > takes a fibrous juice to get thru the small intestine? > > > > > > > > Alobar > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > " John Polifronio " > > > > To: > > > > Monday, December 31, 2001 5:47 PM > > > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > > My natural-health doctor advised me to use a juicer that provided > very > > > > thin, > > > > > low bulk, juice, as watery as possible; which allowed the body to > absorb > > > > the > > > > > nourishment from the juice, within a few minutes. If your juicer > leaves a > > > > > lot of fiber and bulk in your juice, it may taste good, and the > bulky > > > > > elements may have a value of their own, but it slows down the > digestion of > > > > > the juice tremendously. The special value of a juicer (I use the > Acme) > > > > that > > > > > makes a very thin, watery juice, is that it provides extremely high > > > > nutrient > > > > > density, in a form that is absorbed and digested thoroughly by the > body in > > > > a > > > > > few minutes. > > > > > - > > > > > " Lu " > > > > > To: > > > > > Monday, December 31, 2001 1:18 PM > > > > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I use to juice years ago consistently....I had lupus, actually > still do, > > > > > anyhow it helped me get through a toxic exposure to Diazon. Silly > me...I > > > > > cleaned up a bottle that fell on the garage floor...liquid...with > bare > > > > hands > > > > > after I had been gardening roses....anyhow it inflamed my liver. I > was > > > > sick > > > > > for a whole year and it took steady attention to what I ate and that > > > > juicing > > > > > helped me tremendously. Although, I do have to say I ate an awful > lot of > > > > > fresh steamed veggies too....I think all these ways of helping our > body > > > > has > > > > > merit at different phases of our health. > > > > > > Take care > > > > > > Happy and Healthy New Year > > > > > > Lulu > > > > > > (actually, I should have intro'd myself to the group, I am new! ) > > > > > > - > > > > > > John Polifronio > > > > > > Gettingwell > > > > > > Monday, December 31, 2001 2:21 PM > > > > > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is the belief that the fiber in plant foods make it harder, > and it > > > > > > takes much longer, for the body to absorb the nutrients in these > foods, > > > > > when > > > > > > they're juiced. > > > > > > - > > > > > > " Alobar " > > > > > > To: > > > > > > Monday, December 31, 2001 12:07 PM > > > > > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > " the desert_rat " > > > > > > > To: > > > > > > > Monday, December 31, 2001 1:13 PM > > > > > > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm wanting to buy a new juicer and looking at the Vita Mix. I > think > > > > > it > > > > > > > > is okay to leave the fiber in and the Vita Mix cleans easily. > I'm to > > > > > > > > lazy to take a juicer apart to clean it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have had my VitaMix for about > > 4 years now & am very happy > > > > with > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alobar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building > health > > > > > > > and well being. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To learn more about the Gettingwell group, > > > > > > > Subscription and list archives are at: > > > > > > > Gettingwell > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 1, 2002 In Gettingwell, " Alobar " <alobar@b...> wrote: > I am curious. Why does it matter if the good stuff in the juice is > absorbed into the body all at once (watery juice) or slowly over the time it > takes a fibrous juice to get thru the small intestine? > > Alobar I'm curious too. I've heard pro and con on juicing. Seems that juice that can get absorped most quickly will hold more nurients as the digestive enzyme action of the system doesn't have so much time to break it down.. But then there's also a school of thought that a truely healthy body needs the fiber for proper intestinal workings? So because much of the info about juicing I've come across is mostly available from companies selling juicing machines, and because my common sense/intuition works for me, I juice a few times a week only; that's mainly because I have colon issues that require vegetable fiber to overcome. However, when the body is very sick, ie., cancer etc, juicing only has proven to be beneficial in recovery as stated on www.drday.com So I'm open to hear more about juicing vs the body's need for fiber. Blessings Francie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 1, 2002 I can only tell you what my doctor believed. He said that fibrous, bulky juices take as long and, just as important, consume as much energy in the process, as eating foods whole and unjuiced. The value of juicing is that the juicing machine does the work of extracting the easily absorbable thin juices containing high quantities of nutrients, without chewing, without the inefficiences of long periods of digestion, in a few short minutes, thereby reducing the work load, usually improving flavor, and giving overworked, digestive tracts, the nutrients and rest necessary to heal. - " Alobar " <alobar Tuesday, January 01, 2002 3:04 AM Re: juicing > I am curious. Why does it matter if the good stuff in the juice is > absorbed into the body all at once (watery juice) or slowly over the time it > takes a fibrous juice to get thru the small intestine? > > Alobar > > > - > " John Polifronio " <counterpnt > > Monday, December 31, 2001 5:47 PM > Re: juicing > > > > My natural-health doctor advised me to use a juicer that provided very > thin, > > low bulk, juice, as watery as possible; which allowed the body to absorb > the > > nourishment from the juice, within a few minutes. If your juicer leaves a > > lot of fiber and bulk in your juice, it may taste good, and the bulky > > elements may have a value of their own, but it slows down the digestion of > > the juice tremendously. The special value of a juicer (I use the Acme) > that > > makes a very thin, watery juice, is that it provides extremely high > nutrient > > density, in a form that is absorbed and digested thoroughly by the body in > a > > few minutes. > > - > > " Lu " <demi111 > > > > Monday, December 31, 2001 1:18 PM > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > I use to juice years ago consistently....I had lupus, actually still do, > > anyhow it helped me get through a toxic exposure to Diazon. Silly me...I > > cleaned up a bottle that fell on the garage floor...liquid...with bare > hands > > after I had been gardening roses....anyhow it inflamed my liver. I was > sick > > for a whole year and it took steady attention to what I ate and that > juicing > > helped me tremendously. Although, I do have to say I ate an awful lot of > > fresh steamed veggies too....I think all these ways of helping our body > has > > merit at different phases of our health. > > > Take care > > > Happy and Healthy New Year > > > Lulu > > > (actually, I should have intro'd myself to the group, I am new! ) > > > - > > > John Polifronio > > > Gettingwell > > > Monday, December 31, 2001 2:21 PM > > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > There is the belief that the fiber in plant foods make it harder, and it > > > takes much longer, for the body to absorb the nutrients in these foods, > > when > > > they're juiced. > > > - > > > " Alobar " <alobar > > > > > > Monday, December 31, 2001 12:07 PM > > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > " the desert_rat " <ron > > > > > > > > Monday, December 31, 2001 1:13 PM > > > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm wanting to buy a new juicer and looking at the Vita Mix. I think > > it > > > > > is okay to leave the fiber in and the Vita Mix cleans easily. I'm to > > > > > lazy to take a juicer apart to clean it. > > > > > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > > I have had my VitaMix for about 4 years now & am very happy > with > > > it. > > > > > > > > Alobar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health > > > > and well being. > > > > > > > > To learn more about the Gettingwell group, > > > > Subscription and list archives are at: > > > > Gettingwell > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 1, 2002 Dear JoAnn, I am rather hesitant to give you the Lewis Labs website. Their site is a shambles! If I did not feel Lewis Labs Lecithin was the absolute best lecithin I have ever used (from the taste & consistency perspective), I would probably not buy their products based on the shambles of a website they have. I have been using Lewis Labs Lecithin almost daily for nearly a quarter of a century so I am a real fan of their products. Here is the website -- http://www.lewis-labs.com/AboutOurCompany.htm Please do not judge them harshly for their broken links, pages which have the text shown twice, etc. Web design does not seem to be high on their list of priorities. Alobar - " mrsjoguest " <joguest Tuesday, January 01, 2002 10:31 AM Re: juicing > --- Lewis Labs. Do they have a website? > Thanks! JoAnn > > " Alobar " <alobar@b...> wrote: > > I have found that the granules from Lewis Labs have the > best flavor > > & dissolve most readily when mixing with fruits or veggies in my > blender. > > > > Alobar > > > > > > - > > " mrsjoguest " <joguest@m...> > > <Gettingwell> > > Monday, December 31, 2001 7:16 PM > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > --- Oh, do tell...I'm looking for a good lecithin right at the > > > moment. I previously tried a liquid lecithin w/o much success. > Which > > > brand is best in your estimation? > > > > > > Regards, JoAnn > > > > > > JoAnn Guest > > > joguest@m... > > > Friendsforhealthnaturally > > > http://canceranswer.homestead.com/AIM.html > > > > > > " Lu " <demi111@m...> wrote: > > > > Oh I love cranberries too....good one. Have you tried adding > > > lecithin granules and crushed flax (organic)? I follow ER4YT and > so > > > I stay clear of coconut but it sounds delicious! ;-) > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Lulu > > > > - > > > > the desert_rat > > > > Gettingwell > > > > Monday, December 31, 2001 10:28 AM > > > > juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > Is There Anything I Can Add to Make The Juice Taste Better? > > > > > > > > My favorite addition is coconut. You can purchase the whole > coconut > > > or > > > > use shredded coconut. They add a delightful flavor and are an > > > excellent > > > > source of fat to balance the meal. The have medium chain > > > triglycierides > > > > which have many health benefits. > > > > > > > > I have recently started juicing fresh cranberries and they have > > > improved > > > > the taste immensely. Researchers have discovered that > cranberries > > > have > > > > five times the antioxidant content of broccoli, which means > they may > > > > protect against cancer, stroke and heart disease. > > > > > > > > You can also add a small piece of lemon and fresh ginger if you > can > > > > tolerate them. > > > > > > > > http://www.mercola.com/forms/juicing.htm > > > > _____________ > > > > Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at > > > > http://www.mail2world.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 1, 2002 --- I am more interested in their products than their website. <grin> Thanks! " Alobar " <alobar@b...> wrote: > Dear JoAnn, > I am rather hesitant to give you the Lewis Labs website. Their site > is a shambles! If I did not feel Lewis Labs Lecithin was the absolute best > lecithin I have ever used (from the taste & consistency perspective), I > would probably not buy their products based on the shambles of a website > they have. I have been using Lewis Labs Lecithin almost daily for nearly a > quarter of a century so I am a real fan of their products. Here is the > website -- > http://www.lewis-labs.com/AboutOurCompany.htm > Please do not judge them harshly for their broken links, pages which have > the text shown twice, etc. Web design does not seem to be high on their > list of priorities. > > Alobar > > > - > " mrsjoguest " <joguest@m...> > <Gettingwell> > Tuesday, January 01, 2002 10:31 AM > Re: juicing > > > > --- Lewis Labs. Do they have a website? > > Thanks! JoAnn > > > > " Alobar " <alobar@b...> wrote: > > > I have found that the granules from Lewis Labs have the > > best flavor > > > & dissolve most readily when mixing with fruits or veggies in my > > blender. > > > > > > Alobar > > > > > > > > > - > > > " mrsjoguest " <joguest@m...> > > > <Gettingwell> > > > Monday, December 31, 2001 7:16 PM > > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > --- Oh, do tell...I'm looking for a good lecithin right at the > > > > moment. I previously tried a liquid lecithin w/o much success. > > Which > > > > brand is best in your estimation? > > > > > > > > Regards, JoAnn > > > > > > > > JoAnn Guest > > > > joguest@m... > > > > Friendsforhealthnaturally > > > > http://canceranswer.homestead.com/AIM.html > > > > > > > > " Lu " <demi111@m...> wrote: > > > > > Oh I love cranberries too....good one. Have you tried adding > > > > lecithin granules and crushed flax (organic)? I follow ER4YT and > > so > > > > I stay clear of coconut but it sounds delicious! ;-) > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > Lulu > > > > > - > > > > > the desert_rat > > > > > Gettingwell > > > > > Monday, December 31, 2001 10:28 AM > > > > > juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is There Anything I Can Add to Make The Juice Taste Better? > > > > > > > > > > My favorite addition is coconut. You can purchase the whole > > coconut > > > > or > > > > > use shredded coconut. They add a delightful flavor and are an > > > > excellent > > > > > source of fat to balance the meal. The have medium chain > > > > triglycierides > > > > > which have many health benefits. > > > > > > > > > > I have recently started juicing fresh cranberries and they have > > > > improved > > > > > the taste immensely. Researchers have discovered that > > cranberries > > > > have > > > > > five times the antioxidant content of broccoli, which means > > they may > > > > > protect against cancer, stroke and heart disease. > > > > > > > > > > You can also add a small piece of lemon and fresh ginger if you > > can > > > > > tolerate them. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.mercola.com/forms/juicing.htm > > > > > _____________ > > > > > Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at > > > > > http://www.mail2world.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 1, 2002 I continually keep having to scratch my head over the myriad differences of opinion regarding most any aspect of health & diet. I suppose for folks with certain conditions, what your doc told you would be important. But for me & most folks I know, we get plenty of calories each day, so I have no worries about fibrous juices taking more energy to digest. In fact, as a diabetic, slowing down the absorption of sugars is a good thing. I am not starved for vitamins, so waiting an extra half hour or hour to get vitamins from fibrous juices into my system is no big deal. Kinda like taking time release vitamin pills. I will freely admit that my morning " fruit goop " & my " veggie glop " from the vitamix is not nearly as pleasant as clear juice would be, but I have learned to live with " drinking sludge " (as my ex-wife calls it) because of the benefits I get from consuming whole fruits & veggies. I am by no means putting down those who choose clear juices. We all have different health concerns. For me, adding fiber to my diet & slowing down absorption of sugars is a good thing. I assume have other concerns. Thanks for the clarification. Alobar - " John Polifronio " <counterpnt Tuesday, January 01, 2002 12:46 PM Re: juicing > I can only tell you what my doctor believed. He said that fibrous, bulky > juices take as long and, just as important, consume as much energy in the > process, as eating foods whole and unjuiced. The value of juicing is that > the juicing machine does the work of extracting the easily absorbable thin > juices containing high quantities of nutrients, without chewing, without the > inefficiences of long periods of digestion, in a few short minutes, thereby > reducing the work load, usually improving flavor, and giving overworked, > digestive tracts, the nutrients and rest necessary to heal. > - > " Alobar " <alobar > > Tuesday, January 01, 2002 3:04 AM > Re: juicing > > > > I am curious. Why does it matter if the good stuff in the juice > is > > absorbed into the body all at once (watery juice) or slowly over the time > it > > takes a fibrous juice to get thru the small intestine? > > > > Alobar > > > > > > - > > " John Polifronio " <counterpnt > > > > Monday, December 31, 2001 5:47 PM > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > My natural-health doctor advised me to use a juicer that provided very > > thin, > > > low bulk, juice, as watery as possible; which allowed the body to absorb > > the > > > nourishment from the juice, within a few minutes. If your juicer leaves > a > > > lot of fiber and bulk in your juice, it may taste good, and the bulky > > > elements may have a value of their own, but it slows down the digestion > of > > > the juice tremendously. The special value of a juicer (I use the Acme) > > that > > > makes a very thin, watery juice, is that it provides extremely high > > nutrient > > > density, in a form that is absorbed and digested thoroughly by the body > in > > a > > > few minutes. > > > - > > > " Lu " <demi111 > > > > > > Monday, December 31, 2001 1:18 PM > > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > I use to juice years ago consistently....I had lupus, actually still > do, > > > anyhow it helped me get through a toxic exposure to Diazon. Silly > me...I > > > cleaned up a bottle that fell on the garage floor...liquid...with bare > > hands > > > after I had been gardening roses....anyhow it inflamed my liver. I was > > sick > > > for a whole year and it took steady attention to what I ate and that > > juicing > > > helped me tremendously. Although, I do have to say I ate an awful lot > of > > > fresh steamed veggies too....I think all these ways of helping our body > > has > > > merit at different phases of our health. > > > > Take care > > > > Happy and Healthy New Year > > > > Lulu > > > > (actually, I should have intro'd myself to the group, I am new! ) > > > > - > > > > John Polifronio > > > > Gettingwell > > > > Monday, December 31, 2001 2:21 PM > > > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > There is the belief that the fiber in plant foods make it harder, and > it > > > > takes much longer, for the body to absorb the nutrients in these > foods, > > > when > > > > they're juiced. > > > > - > > > > " Alobar " <alobar > > > > > > > > Monday, December 31, 2001 12:07 PM > > > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > " the desert_rat " <ron > > > > > > > > > > Monday, December 31, 2001 1:13 PM > > > > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm wanting to buy a new juicer and looking at the Vita Mix. I > think > > > it > > > > > > is okay to leave the fiber in and the Vita Mix cleans easily. I'm > to > > > > > > lazy to take a juicer apart to clean it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > > > > I have had my VitaMix for about 4 years now & am very happy > > with > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > Alobar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health > > > > > and well being. > > > > > > > > > > To learn more about the Gettingwell group, > > > > > Subscription and list archives are at: > > > > > Gettingwell > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 1, 2002 It isn't juicing " versus " the body's need for fiber being talked about here. My doctor, who follows the natural Hygiene school of healing and eating, prescribed the making of thin juices, because they enhanced healing and provided accelerated nutrient absorption for little cost of digestive energy. But doctor Benesh also included the prescription of huge amounts of " fiber " when he told me to eat fresh fruit in the morning accompanied by a " couple of leaves of lettuce, " 2 huge fresh, raw, vegetable salads each day, plus raw nuts and seeds; as well as steamed vegetables in the evening meal. - <ArtistDesigner Tuesday, January 01, 2002 1:17 PM Re: Re: juicing > I have a theory but its just my opinion and not an expert one either. I > would think that we all make our health way too complicated. It would seem > we were created to be healthy and our natural instincts are to drink when we > are thirsty and to eat when we are hungry. I think if we watch small > children (ones who haven't been inudated with tons of junk food) and notice > what they eat and when, you will see they do not overeat or eat any one > particular thing too much. I notice most of the time my youngest (who's 3) > drinks lots of water....but every so often, he prefers juice. He also goes > through days when he wants mostly nuts or fruit or carrots...then suddenly > one day he will want chicken or soup. He is in extremely good shape and is > very healthy and lean. > I think we were meant to eat things in their raw state when possible and > to help promote healthy teeth, we need to eat crunchy things, which most > veggies are when they are in their raw state. I think we only need milk from > our mothers when we are babies and no dairy after that. After all, all > animals were designed that way. Not that we are animals but we are living > beings designed to have our needs met easily from things grown on the Earth. > I think we were designed to get our physical bodies in shape and keep them > that way by having to grow and sow our food. Life is so complicated now and > with our incredible technology we have evolved ourselves into unhealthy soft > out-of-shape people who think nuking our food is quick and easy. > I know what I am saying sounds like some hippie from the sixties who is > thinking like a natural commune way of life but really I think it is possible > today without the whole freaky hippie side efffects. If we can't grow our > own food then we can buy it locally and get organic whenever possible. I > think raw is the best choice and slightly steamed or quickly stir fried is a > good second choice. Juicing can be a great thing to do to get the nutrients > we won't otherwise get on our own with normal eating. I think it's just one > of the things you do not the only thing you do. > I have been radically changing the way I eat lately and I am feeling > better than I have since high school (and that was a long long time ago) I > eat very little processed foods like breads or pasta and mostly eat only > fruits and veggies. I take several supplements and make sure I never miss > taking the fish oil caps. I am feeling so much better. I was a total junk > food junkie. I used to make Rosie O'Donnel look like a health freak with my > food habits. I think I lived on Pepsi, chocolate, pasta and french fries for > years. If I can change this much then anyone can. > If you're really feeling sick and are sick of feeling that way, then > give this a try. > Arizona > > > So I'm open to hear more about juicing vs the body's need for fiber. > > > > Blessings > > Francie > > > Arizona Hughes > -------- > Please stop by and visit my Website listed below > http://members.aol.com/artistdesigner/Arizona_Hughes/Page_1x.html > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 2, 2002 And lest we forget the colon does need bulk. Ron _____________ Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com <> > > Alobar > 1/1/2002 1:58:50 PM > Gettingwell > Re: juicing > > > > > > I continually keep having to scratch my head over the > myriad > > differences of opinion regarding most any aspect of health & diet. I > > suppose for folks with certain conditions, what your doc told you would be > > important. But for me & most folks I know, we get plenty of calories each > > day, so I have no worries about fibrous juices taking more energy to digest. > > In fact, as a diabetic, slowing down the absorption of sugars is a good > > thing. I am not starved for vitamins, so waiting an extra half hour or hour > > to get vitamins from fibrous juices into my system is no big deal. Kinda > > like taking time release vitamin pills. I will freely admit that my > > morning " fruit goop " & my " veggie glop " from the vitamix is not nearly as > > pleasant as clear juice would be, but I have learned to live with " drinking > > sludge " (as my ex-wife calls it) because of the benefits I get from > > consuming whole fruits & veggies. > > > > I am by no means putting down those who choose > clear juices. We all > > have different health concerns. For me, adding fiber to my diet & slowing > > down absorption of sugars is a good thing. I assume have other concerns. > > Thanks for the clarification. > > > > Alobar > > > > > > - > > " John Polifronio " > > To: > > Tuesday, January 01, 2002 12:46 PM > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > I can only tell you what my doctor believed. He said that fibrous, bulky > > > juices take as long and, just as important, consume as much energy in the > > > process, as eating foods whole and unjuiced. The value of juicing is that > > > the juicing machine does the work of extracting the easily absorbable thin > > > juices containing high quantities of nutrients, without chewing, without > > the > > > inefficiences of long periods of digestion, in a few short minutes, > > thereby > > > reducing the work load, usually improving flavor, and giving overworked, > > > digestive tracts, the nutrients and rest necessary to heal. > > > - > > > " Alobar " > > > To: > > > Tuesday, January 01, 2002 3:04 AM > > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > I am curious. Why > does it matter if the good stuff in the > > juice > > > is > > > > absorbed into the body all at once (watery juice) or slowly over the > > time > > > it > > > > takes a fibrous juice to get thru the small intestine? > > > > > > > > Alobar > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > " John Polifronio " > > > > To: > > > > Monday, December 31, 2001 5:47 PM > > > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > > My natural-health doctor advised me to use a juicer that provided very > > > > thin, > > > > > low bulk, juice, as watery as possible; which allowed the body to > > absorb > > > > the > > > > > nourishment from the juice, within a few minutes. If your juicer > > leaves > > > a > > > > > lot of fiber and bulk in your juice, it may taste good, and the bulky > > > > > elements may have a value of their own, but it slows down the > > digestion > > > of > > > > > the juice tremendously. The special value of a juicer (I use the > > Acme) > > > > that > > > > > makes a very thin, watery juice, is that it provides extremely high > > > > nutrient > > > > > density, in a form that is absorbed and digested thoroughly by the > > body > > > in > > > > a > > > > > few minutes. > > > > > - > > > > > " Lu " > > > > > To: > > > > > Monday, December 31, 2001 1:18 PM > > > > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I use to juice years ago consistently....I had lupus, actually still > > > do, > > > > > anyhow it helped me get through a toxic exposure to Diazon. Silly > > > me...I > > > > > cleaned up a bottle that fell on the garage floor...liquid...with bare > > > > hands > > > > > after I had been gardening roses....anyhow it inflamed my liver. I > > was > > > > sick > > > > > for a whole year and it took steady attention to what I ate and that > > > > juicing > > > > > helped me tremendously. Although, I do have to say I ate an awful lot > > > of > > > > > fresh steamed veggies too....I think all these ways of helping our > > body > > > > has > > > > > merit at different phases of our health. > > > > > > Take care > > > > > > Happy and Healthy New Year > > > > > > Lulu > > > > > > (actually, I should have intro'd myself to the group, I am new! ) > > > > > > - > > > > > > John Polifronio > > > > > > Gettingwell > > > > > > Monday, December 31, 2001 2:21 PM > > > > > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is the belief that the fiber in plant foods make it harder, > > and > > > it > > > > > > takes much longer, for the body to absorb the nutrients in these > > > foods, > > > > > when > > > > > > they're juiced. > > > > > > - > > > > > > " Alobar " > > > > > > To: > > > > > > Monday, December 31, 2001 12:07 PM > > > > > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > " the desert_rat " > > > > > > > To: > > > > > > > Monday, December 31, 2001 1:13 PM > > > > > > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm wanting to buy a new juicer and looking at the Vita Mix. I > > > think > > > > > it > > > > > > > > is okay to leave the fiber in and the Vita Mix cleans easily. > > I'm > > > to > > > > > > > > lazy to take a juicer apart to clean it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have had my VitaMix > for about 4 years now & am very > > happy > > > > with > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alobar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building > > health > > > > > > > and well being. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To learn more about the Gettingwell group, > > > > > > > Subscription and list archives are at: > > > > > > > Gettingwell > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 2, 2002 I just posted this a couple days ago. It is Dr. Mercola's views on juice and pulp. http://www.mail2joe.com/m2w/main.asp Ron _____________ Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com <> > > francies2 > 1/1/2002 6:42:38 PM > Gettingwell > Re: juicing > > > > > > In Gettingwell, " Alobar " wrote: > > > I am curious. Why does it > matter if the good stuff in the > > juice is > > > absorbed into the body all at once (watery juice) or slowly over > > the time it > > > takes a fibrous juice to get thru the small intestine? > > > > > > Alobar > > > > > > I'm curious too. I've heard pro and con on juicing. Seems that > > juice that can get absorped most quickly will hold more nurients as > > the digestive enzyme action of the system doesn't have so much time > > to break it down.. > > > > But then there's also a school of thought that a truely healthy body > > needs the fiber for proper intestinal workings? So because much of > > the info about juicing I've come across is mostly available from > > companies selling juicing machines, and because my common > > sense/intuition works for me, I juice a few times a week only; that's > > mainly because I have colon issues that require vegetable fiber to > > overcome. > > > > However, when the body is very sick, ie., cancer etc, juicing only > > has proven to be beneficial in recovery as stated on www.drday.com > > > > So I'm open to hear more about juicing vs the body's need for fiber. > > > > Blessings > > Francie > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 2, 2002 Try this one instead : http://www.mercola.com/forms/juicing.htm Ron _____________ Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com <> > > the desert_rat > 1/1/2002 3:51:39 PM > Gettingwell > Re: Re: juicing > > > > > > I just posted this a couple days ago. It is Dr. Mercola's views on juice > > and pulp. > > > > http://www.mail2joe.com/m2w/main.asp > > > > Ron > > _____________ > > Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at > > http://www.mail2world.com > > > > <> > > > > > > francies2 > > > 1/1/2002 6:42:38 PM > > > Gettingwell > > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Gettingwell, " Alobar " wrote: > > > > > > > I am curious. Why does it > > > matter if the good stuff in the > > > > > > juice is > > > > > > > absorbed into the body all at once (watery juice) or slowly over > > > > > > the time it > > > > > > > takes a fibrous juice to get thru the small intestine? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alobar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm curious too. I've heard pro and con on juicing. Seems that > > > > > > juice that can get absorped most quickly will hold more nurients as > > > > > > the digestive enzyme action of the system doesn't have so much time > > > > > > to break it down.. > > > > > > > > > > > > But then there's also a school of thought that a truely healthy body > > > > > > needs the fiber for proper intestinal workings? So because much of > > > > > > the info about juicing I've come across is mostly available from > > > > > > companies selling juicing machines, and because my common > > > > > > sense/intuition works for me, I juice a few times a week only; that's > > > > > > mainly because I have colon issues that require vegetable fiber to > > > > > > overcome. > > > > > > > > > > > > However, when the body is very sick, ie., cancer etc, juicing only > > > > > > has proven to be beneficial in recovery as stated on www.drday.com > > > > > > > > > > > > So I'm open to hear more about juicing vs the body's need for fiber. > > > > > > > > > > > > Blessings > > > > > > Francie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 2, 2002 The doctor who prescribed the drinking of thin juices, also prescribes a diet consisting of more " bulk " than any food plan I've ever seen. The purpose, as my doctor saw it, was, not to deny people " bulk " in their diet, just the opposite, as my remark above will show. He prescribed thin juices to give people a source of readily available, and very quickly assimilated nutrients, with virtually no digestion necessary (in approx. 10 minutes!), because he knew that most people's digestive tracts need the help, and most people are not obtaining most of the nutrients trapped in foods, because of the low quality of their digestion. - " the desert_rat " <ron Tuesday, January 01, 2002 3:42 PM Re: juicing > And lest we forget the colon does need bulk. > > Ron > _____________ > Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at > http://www.mail2world.com > > <> > > > > Alobar > > 1/1/2002 1:58:50 PM > > Gettingwell > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > I continually keep having to scratch my head over the > > myriad > > > > differences of opinion regarding most any aspect of health & diet. I > > > > suppose for folks with certain conditions, what your doc told you > would be > > > > important. But for me & most folks I know, we get plenty of calories > each > > > > day, so I have no worries about fibrous juices taking more energy to > digest. > > > > In fact, as a diabetic, slowing down the absorption of sugars is a > good > > > > thing. I am not starved for vitamins, so waiting an extra half hour or > hour > > > > to get vitamins from fibrous juices into my system is no big deal. > Kinda > > > > like taking time release vitamin pills. I will freely admit that my > > > > morning " fruit goop " & my " veggie glop " from the vitamix is not nearly > as > > > > pleasant as clear juice would be, but I have learned to live with > " drinking > > > > sludge " (as my ex-wife calls it) because of the benefits I get from > > > > consuming whole fruits & veggies. > > > > > > > > I am by no means putting down those who choose > > clear juices. We all > > > > have different health concerns. For me, adding fiber to my diet & > slowing > > > > down absorption of sugars is a good thing. I assume have other > concerns. > > > > Thanks for the clarification. > > > > > > > > Alobar > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > " John Polifronio " > > > > To: > > > > Tuesday, January 01, 2002 12:46 PM > > > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can only tell you what my doctor believed. He said that fibrous, > bulky > > > > > juices take as long and, just as important, consume as much energy > in the > > > > > process, as eating foods whole and unjuiced. The value of juicing is > that > > > > > the juicing machine does the work of extracting the easily > absorbable thin > > > > > juices containing high quantities of nutrients, without chewing, > without > > > > the > > > > > inefficiences of long periods of digestion, in a few short minutes, > > > > thereby > > > > > reducing the work load, usually improving flavor, and giving > overworked, > > > > > digestive tracts, the nutrients and rest necessary to heal. > > > > > - > > > > > " Alobar " > > > > > To: > > > > > Tuesday, January 01, 2002 3:04 AM > > > > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am curious. Why > > does it matter if the good stuff in the > > > > juice > > > > > is > > > > > > absorbed into the body all at once (watery juice) or slowly over > the > > > > time > > > > > it > > > > > > takes a fibrous juice to get thru the small intestine? > > > > > > > > > > > > Alobar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > " John Polifronio " > > > > > > To: > > > > > > Monday, December 31, 2001 5:47 PM > > > > > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My natural-health doctor advised me to use a juicer that > provided very > > > > > > thin, > > > > > > > low bulk, juice, as watery as possible; which allowed the body > to > > > > absorb > > > > > > the > > > > > > > nourishment from the juice, within a few minutes. If your juicer > > > > leaves > > > > > a > > > > > > > lot of fiber and bulk in your juice, it may taste good, and the > bulky > > > > > > > elements may have a value of their own, but it slows down the > > > > digestion > > > > > of > > > > > > > the juice tremendously. The special value of a juicer (I use the > > > > Acme) > > > > > > that > > > > > > > makes a very thin, watery juice, is that it provides extremely > high > > > > > > nutrient > > > > > > > density, in a form that is absorbed and digested thoroughly by > the > > > > body > > > > > in > > > > > > a > > > > > > > few minutes. > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > " Lu " > > > > > > > To: > > > > > > > Monday, December 31, 2001 1:18 PM > > > > > > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I use to juice years ago consistently....I had lupus, actually > still > > > > > do, > > > > > > > anyhow it helped me get through a toxic exposure to Diazon. > Silly > > > > > me...I > > > > > > > cleaned up a bottle that fell on the garage > floor...liquid...with bare > > > > > > hands > > > > > > > after I had been gardening roses....anyhow it inflamed my liver. > I > > > > was > > > > > > sick > > > > > > > for a whole year and it took steady attention to what I ate and > that > > > > > > juicing > > > > > > > helped me tremendously. Although, I do have to say I ate an > awful lot > > > > > of > > > > > > > fresh steamed veggies too....I think all these ways of helping > our > > > > body > > > > > > has > > > > > > > merit at different phases of our health. > > > > > > > > Take care > > > > > > > > Happy and Healthy New Year > > > > > > > > Lulu > > > > > > > > (actually, I should have intro'd myself to the group, I am > new! ) > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > John Polifronio > > > > > > > > Gettingwell > > > > > > > > Monday, December 31, 2001 2:21 PM > > > > > > > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is the belief that the fiber in plant foods make it > harder, > > > > and > > > > > it > > > > > > > > takes much longer, for the body to absorb the nutrients in > these > > > > > foods, > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > they're juiced. > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > " Alobar " > > > > > > > > To: > > > > > > > > Monday, December 31, 2001 12:07 PM > > > > > > > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > " the desert_rat " > > > > > > > > > To: > > > > > > > > > Monday, December 31, 2001 1:13 PM > > > > > > > > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm wanting to buy a new juicer and looking at the Vita > Mix. I > > > > > think > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > is okay to leave the fiber in and the Vita Mix cleans > easily. > > > > I'm > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > lazy to take a juicer apart to clean it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have had my VitaMix > > for about 4 years now & am very > > > > happy > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alobar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, > building > > > > health > > > > > > > > > and well being. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To learn more about the Gettingwell group, > > > > > > > > > Subscription and list archives are at: > > > > > > > > > Gettingwell > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 2, 2002 Since we're on the subject, I was wondering if anyone had suggestions on juicing for a diabetic. Bea Email: bhurd Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 2, 2002 - " B. Hurd " <bhurd Wednesday, January 02, 2002 9:00 AM RE: juicing > Since we're on the subject, I was wondering if anyone had suggestions on > juicing for a diabetic. > > Bea > Email: bhurd > I would recommend using a VitaMix or good quality blender to make smoothie drinks. The fiber slows down absorbtion of sugars so it does not hit the system so hard. Alobar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 3, 2002 I've got a Vita-Mix and love it. The only disappointment was trying for carrot juice. Chuck Pogo ergo possum On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:13:47 -0800, " the desert_rat " <ron wrote: >I'm wanting to buy a new juicer and looking at the Vita Mix. I think it >is okay to leave the fiber in and the Vita Mix cleans easily. I'm to >lazy to take a juicer apart to clean it. > >Ron Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 3, 2002 Try mixed juices with carrots in it. Carrot alone can be very pulpy. Carrot apple celery is nice. Add some water to make it less thick. Alobar - <cking001 Wednesday, January 02, 2002 7:36 PM Re: juicing > I've got a Vita-Mix and love it. The only disappointment was trying for carrot > juice. > Chuck > Pogo ergo possum > > On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:13:47 -0800, " the desert_rat " <ron wrote: > > >I'm wanting to buy a new juicer and looking at the Vita Mix. I think it > >is okay to leave the fiber in and the Vita Mix cleans easily. I'm to > >lazy to take a juicer apart to clean it. > > > >Ron > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health > and well being. > > To learn more about the Gettingwell group, > Subscription and list archives are at: > Gettingwell > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 3, 2002 You can also try eating something along with the juice, a little ( not lots) protein and fat - coconut oil and maybe some nuts to help slow the sugar absorbtion. I juice without pulp and find this aleviates the sugar rush and insulin spike when jucing carrots,beats,apples etc. TK Gettingwell, " B. Hurd " <bhurd@r...> wrote: > Since we're on the subject, I was wondering if anyone had suggestions on > juicing for a diabetic. > > Bea > Email: bhurd@r... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 3, 2002 Hi Chuck, Thanks for your input on the Vita-Mix. Dr. Mercola on carrot juicing :Most people who juice usually use carrots. Do you know why? Of course because they taste so good. The reason they taste so good is that they are full of sugar. I would definitely advise limiting juicing all underground vegetables to decrease adverse insulin responses. Was it Pogo who said " We have seen the enemy and he is us " ? Ron _____________ Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com <> > > cking001 > 1/2/2002 8:36:22 PM > Gettingwell > Re: juicing > > > > > > I've got a Vita-Mix and love it. The only disappointment was trying for carrot > > juice. > > > > > Chuck > > Pogo ergo possum > > > > On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:13:47 -0800, " the desert_rat " wrote: > > > > >I'm wanting to buy a new juicer and looking at the Vita Mix. I think it > > >is okay to leave the fiber in and the Vita Mix cleans easily. I'm to > > >lazy to take a juicer apart to clean it. > > > > > >Ron > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health > > and well being. > > > > To learn more about the Gettingwell group, > > Subscription and list archives are at: > > Gettingwell > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 3, 2002 I drank thousands of servings of carrot juice, over the years, without experiencing " adverse insulin responses. " Of course, my whole diet was a good one at that time, so my digestive tract and sugar metabolism were normal. What it is advisable or inadvisable to do, nutritionally, or in our diets, is very different when we're seriously ill compared to what we can do when we're in good health. I suffer from angina, which makes walking briskly, painful. That's no argument against walking briskly though, is it? - " the desert_rat " <ron Wednesday, January 02, 2002 6:11 PM Re: juicing > Hi Chuck, > Thanks for your input on the Vita-Mix. > Dr. Mercola on carrot juicing :Most people who juice usually use > carrots. Do you know why? Of course because they taste so good. The > reason they taste so good is that they are full of sugar. I would > definitely advise limiting juicing all underground vegetables to > decrease adverse insulin responses. > > Was it Pogo who said " We have seen the enemy and he is us " ? > Ron > _____________ > Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at > http://www.mail2world.com > > <> > > > > cking001 > > 1/2/2002 8:36:22 PM > > Gettingwell > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > I've got a Vita-Mix and love it. The only disappointment was trying > for carrot > > > > juice. > > > > > > > > > > Chuck > > > > Pogo ergo possum > > > > > > > > On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:13:47 -0800, " the desert_rat " wrote: > > > > > > > > >I'm wanting to buy a new juicer and looking at the Vita Mix. I think > it > > > > >is okay to leave the fiber in and the Vita Mix cleans easily. I'm to > > > > >lazy to take a juicer apart to clean it. > > > > > > > > > >Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health > > > > and well being. > > > > > > > > To learn more about the Gettingwell group, > > > > Subscription and list archives are at: > > > > Gettingwell > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 3, 2002 Dr. Mercola has some good ideas, and some bad ideas. He may have concerns about carrot juice; but, in his current e-mail alert, he claims to be able to proove the existence of the " soul. " The healthiest period of my life, was that period during which I was drinking the largest amounts of carrot juice (alone), carrot-celery juice, carrot-celery-apple juice, etc. I had endless strength, never got sick, slept like a baby, " re-grew " hair I had lost, never had weight or energy problems, and was relaxed and clear-headed. - " the desert_rat " <ron Wednesday, January 02, 2002 6:11 PM Re: juicing > Hi Chuck, > Thanks for your input on the Vita-Mix. > Dr. Mercola on carrot juicing :Most people who juice usually use > carrots. Do you know why? Of course because they taste so good. The > reason they taste so good is that they are full of sugar. I would > definitely advise limiting juicing all underground vegetables to > decrease adverse insulin responses. > > Was it Pogo who said " We have seen the enemy and he is us " ? > Ron > _____________ > Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at > http://www.mail2world.com > > <> > > > > cking001 > > 1/2/2002 8:36:22 PM > > Gettingwell > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > I've got a Vita-Mix and love it. The only disappointment was trying > for carrot > > > > juice. > > > > > > > > > > Chuck > > > > Pogo ergo possum > > > > > > > > On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:13:47 -0800, " the desert_rat " wrote: > > > > > > > > >I'm wanting to buy a new juicer and looking at the Vita Mix. I think > it > > > > >is okay to leave the fiber in and the Vita Mix cleans easily. I'm to > > > > >lazy to take a juicer apart to clean it. > > > > > > > > > >Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health > > > > and well being. > > > > > > > > To learn more about the Gettingwell group, > > > > Subscription and list archives are at: > > > > Gettingwell > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 3, 2002 --- John, I think it's for this very reason that cancer patients are advised to juice! Thanks for the information. Doesn't apple cider vinegar help with digestion? Seems that I read something to that effect. JoAnn JoAnn Guest joguest Friendsforhealthnaturally http://canceranswer.homestead.com/AIM.html " John Polifronio " <counterpnt@e...> wrote: > The doctor who prescribed the drinking of thin juices, also prescribes a > diet consisting of more " bulk " than any food plan I've ever seen. > The purpose, as my doctor saw it, was, not to deny people " bulk " in their > diet, just the opposite, as my remark above will show. He prescribed thin > juices to give people a source of readily available, and very quickly > assimilated nutrients, with virtually no digestion necessary (in approx. 10 > minutes!), because he knew that most people's digestive tracts need the > help, and most people are not obtaining most of the nutrients trapped in > foods, because of the low quality of their digestion. > - > " the desert_rat " <ron@m...> > <Gettingwell> > Tuesday, January 01, 2002 3:42 PM > Re: juicing > > > > And lest we forget the colon does need bulk. > > > > Ron > > _____________ > > Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at > > http://www.mail2world.com > > > > <> > > > > > > Alobar > > > 1/1/2002 1:58:50 PM > > > Gettingwell > > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I continually keep having to scratch my head over the > > > myriad > > > > > > differences of opinion regarding most any aspect of health & diet. I > > > > > > suppose for folks with certain conditions, what your doc told you > > would be > > > > > > important. But for me & most folks I know, we get plenty of calories > > each > > > > > > day, so I have no worries about fibrous juices taking more energy to > > digest. > > > > > > In fact, as a diabetic, slowing down the absorption of sugars is a > > good > > > > > > thing. I am not starved for vitamins, so waiting an extra half hour or > > hour > > > > > > to get vitamins from fibrous juices into my system is no big deal. > > Kinda > > > > > > like taking time release vitamin pills. I will freely admit that my > > > > > > morning " fruit goop " & my " veggie glop " from the vitamix is not nearly > > as > > > > > > pleasant as clear juice would be, but I have learned to live with > > " drinking > > > > > > sludge " (as my ex-wife calls it) because of the benefits I get from > > > > > > consuming whole fruits & veggies. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am by no means putting down those who choose > > > clear juices. We all > > > > > > have different health concerns. For me, adding fiber to my diet & > > slowing > > > > > > down absorption of sugars is a good thing. I assume have other > > concerns. > > > > > > Thanks for the clarification. > > > > > > > > > > > > Alobar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > " John Polifronio " > > > > > > To: > > > > > > Tuesday, January 01, 2002 12:46 PM > > > > > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can only tell you what my doctor believed. He said that fibrous, > > bulky > > > > > > > juices take as long and, just as important, consume as much energy > > in the > > > > > > > process, as eating foods whole and unjuiced. The value of juicing is > > that > > > > > > > the juicing machine does the work of extracting the easily > > absorbable thin > > > > > > > juices containing high quantities of nutrients, without chewing, > > without > > > > > > the > > > > > > > inefficiences of long periods of digestion, in a few short minutes, > > > > > > thereby > > > > > > > reducing the work load, usually improving flavor, and giving > > overworked, > > > > > > > digestive tracts, the nutrients and rest necessary to heal. > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > " Alobar " > > > > > > > To: > > > > > > > Tuesday, January 01, 2002 3:04 AM > > > > > > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am curious. Why > > > does it matter if the good stuff in the > > > > > > juice > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > absorbed into the body all at once (watery juice) or slowly over > > the > > > > > > time > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > takes a fibrous juice to get thru the small intestine? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alobar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > " John Polifronio " > > > > > > > > To: > > > > > > > > Monday, December 31, 2001 5:47 PM > > > > > > > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My natural-health doctor advised me to use a juicer that > > provided very > > > > > > > > thin, > > > > > > > > > low bulk, juice, as watery as possible; which allowed the body > > to > > > > > > absorb > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > nourishment from the juice, within a few minutes. If your juicer > > > > > > leaves > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > lot of fiber and bulk in your juice, it may taste good, and the > > bulky > > > > > > > > > elements may have a value of their own, but it slows down the > > > > > > digestion > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > the juice tremendously. The special value of a juicer (I use the > > > > > > Acme) > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > makes a very thin, watery juice, is that it provides extremely > > high > > > > > > > > nutrient > > > > > > > > > density, in a form that is absorbed and digested thoroughly by > > the > > > > > > body > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > few minutes. > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > " Lu " > > > > > > > > > To: > > > > > > > > > Monday, December 31, 2001 1:18 PM > > > > > > > > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I use to juice years ago consistently....I had lupus, actually > > still > > > > > > > do, > > > > > > > > > anyhow it helped me get through a toxic exposure to Diazon. > > Silly > > > > > > > me...I > > > > > > > > > cleaned up a bottle that fell on the garage > > floor...liquid...with bare > > > > > > > > hands > > > > > > > > > after I had been gardening roses....anyhow it inflamed my liver. > > I > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > sick > > > > > > > > > for a whole year and it took steady attention to what I ate and > > that > > > > > > > > juicing > > > > > > > > > helped me tremendously. Although, I do have to say I ate an > > awful lot > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > fresh steamed veggies too....I think all these ways of helping > > our > > > > > > body > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > merit at different phases of our health. > > > > > > > > > > Take care > > > > > > > > > > Happy and Healthy New Year > > > > > > > > > > Lulu > > > > > > > > > > (actually, I should have intro'd myself to the group, I am > > new! ) > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > John Polifronio > > > > > > > > > > Gettingwell > > > > > > > > > > Monday, December 31, 2001 2:21 PM > > > > > > > > > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is the belief that the fiber in plant foods make it > > harder, > > > > > > and > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > takes much longer, for the body to absorb the nutrients in > > these > > > > > > > foods, > > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > they're juiced. > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > " Alobar " > > > > > > > > > > To: > > > > > > > > > > Monday, December 31, 2001 12:07 PM > > > > > > > > > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > " the desert_rat " > > > > > > > > > > > To: > > > > > > > > > > > Monday, December 31, 2001 1:13 PM > > > > > > > > > > > Re: juicing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm wanting to buy a new juicer and looking at the Vita > > Mix. I > > > > > > > think > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > is okay to leave the fiber in and the Vita Mix cleans > > easily. > > > > > > I'm > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > lazy to take a juicer apart to clean it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have had my VitaMix > > > for about 4 years now & am very > > > > > > happy > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alobar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, > > building > > > > > > health > > > > > > > > > > > and well being. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To learn more about the Gettingwell group, > > > > > > > > > > > Subscription and list archives are at: > > > > > > > > > > > Gettingwell > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
