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Hey Anthony

I have strongly considered learning hypnosis to add to my skills I would be

interested in hearing more about your training.

 

Yes, my program will include herbs she has started to incorporate them as we

go so that maybe I can get all the Chinese herbs straight by the time I

finish LOL LOL

they are so very different from Western Herbs. I had the best time picking

out herbs when I went to New York in March. I was in Chinatown just asking

the experts all kinds of questions.

 

I think I much prefer to learn with the hands on approach vs class time,

although I believe there is much to be said for lecture. I just seem to do

better with the hands on. What she has done at this time is she does one

side of the person and I do the other. I sort of had my own technique prior

to her getting me. I have always had a line of people wanting to be victims

(LOL) so I got to practice a lot prior to hooking up with her. One of the

doctors at the hospital that I work at is certified in acupuncture and she

taught me a lot prior to this training. She had taught me how to do cupping

and I have done a lot of it and really enjoy it. Well, enough about me hope

to talk with you soon.

 

Shane

 

 

In a message dated 7/30/1999 12:45:22 PM US Eastern Standard Time,

ACUSERA writes:

 

<< I just do

Hypnosis. I plan to mix it with acupuncture in the future.

 

At my school Herbology is also taught. Does your Teacher not do

herbs? >>

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Hi Sabrina!

Welcome! I guess, I don't have to introduce myself,

since you allready mention my intro. The interrests

you quoted are all very interresting! Hope to read

much more of you in the future!

 

Peace,

Olivia

 

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Dear Tracey

 

Happy weekend! I really enjoy this wonderful Aromatherapy list. I am

eager to learn about it. I am deaf blind myself. I use my senory like

smelling taste touch. I only can see little. I am profound deaf.

 

Aromatherapy is a wonderful thing as hobby and emotionals feel relax

naturally and spritually healing even postive too. Even Massage therapy

is also wonderful even holistic too!

 

I am still on this list :)

 

Enjoy Day!

 

 

--

Jaimi Lard :)

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Hi Joanne,

 

While the neck is getting fixed, have you thought of using some lavender

(absolute) on it to help ease the tension in that area? There are other

absolute essential oils that have a lot of healing qualities as well. Marjoram

for relaxing the muscles. Birch, Cypress come to mind as well. And peppermint

can be very helpful for the headaches that come with this kind of problem.

 

Wishing you well in all ways,

 

Lynn

 

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Hi Lynn and List Buds;

 

At 07:49 PM 11/17/99 -0800, you wrote:

> " Lynn Bedri " <lbedri

>

>Hi Joanne,

>

>While the neck is getting fixed, have you thought of using some lavender

>(absolute) on it to help ease the tension in that area? There are other

>absolute essential oils that have a lot of healing qualities as well.

Marjoram

>for relaxing the muscles. Birch, Cypress come to mind as well. And

peppermint

>can be very helpful for the headaches that come with this kind of problem.

 

Why lavender absolute instead of the essential oils that Aromatherapy uses?

Why absolutes (and of marjoram? Birthc? Cypress?) I've never seen

absolutes of marjoram, birch or cypress and am just curious why the

*absolute* part.

 

According to the data I've seen (and also heard) *true* birch oil is very

hard to come by and there are at least 2 birch oils. One is *relatively

safe, the other is ONLY RELATIVELY SAFE when used in *tinY amounts and for

only a VERY SHORT time and only with minimal applications due levels of

methylsalicilate (which is about 98%+). Methylsalicilate can be *very*

toxic. It can also cause very nasty reactions to people who are allergic

to aspirin. It should never ever be used on children... and the list goes on.

 

Just some things to think about. Looking forward to more discussion on the

issue of absolutes (extracted with gasoline, hexane, etc. petro chemicals)

.... perhaps a CO2 would be an even better? option?? I don't know. Some

traditional trains of AT do not " believe " in using absolutes at all in a

therapeutic manner.

Guess *that* depends on one's definition of AT which is still " unclear " at

least to me. Further, I'm not a " purist " on the issue but ...

Wishes of Hope, Health, Joy and Healing,

Susan Renkel, RN / Changes Within

 

~ *^* ~ Exquisite Pure Essential oils, CO2's, & Blends ~ *^* ~

Wholesale or Retail. AT Starter Kits, Carrier Oils, Hard to Find Items.

Private Health Consults, Specializing in Chronic Pain Management.

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Susan, YIKES!! Thanks for correcting me. What I really want to mention is

that I do use Birch and Cypress for easing muscle and bone pain and it's

fantastic. Especially on my right wrist that is trying to tell me I have some

carpel tunnel stuff going on. I refuse to listen and continue to use my brace

(on bad days) and my oils. Works like a charm every time! The Marjoram is a

fantastic muscle relaxer - at least for me and for the folks who I've used it

with.

 

Humbled and appreciative,

 

Lynn

 

Changes Within [changes]

Thursday, November 18, 1999 11:51 AM

 

RE: [AX]

 

Changes Within <changes

 

Hi Lynn and List Buds;

 

At 07:49 PM 11/17/99 -0800, you wrote:

> " Lynn Bedri " <lbedri

>

>Hi Joanne,

>

>While the neck is getting fixed, have you thought of using some lavender

>(absolute) on it to help ease the tension in that area? There are other

>absolute essential oils that have a lot of healing qualities as well.

Marjoram

>for relaxing the muscles. Birch, Cypress come to mind as well. And

peppermint

>can be very helpful for the headaches that come with this kind of problem.

 

Why lavender absolute instead of the essential oils that Aromatherapy uses?

Why absolutes (and of marjoram? Birthc? Cypress?) I've never seen

absolutes of marjoram, birch or cypress and am just curious why the

*absolute* part.

 

According to the data I've seen (and also heard) *true* birch oil is very

hard to come by and there are at least 2 birch oils. One is *relatively

safe, the other is ONLY RELATIVELY SAFE when used in *tinY amounts and for

only a VERY SHORT time and only with minimal applications due levels of

methylsalicilate (which is about 98%+). Methylsalicilate can be *very*

toxic. It can also cause very nasty reactions to people who are allergic

to aspirin. It should never ever be used on children... and the list goes on.

 

Just some things to think about. Looking forward to more discussion on the

issue of absolutes (extracted with gasoline, hexane, etc. petro chemicals)

.... perhaps a CO2 would be an even better? option?? I don't know. Some

traditional trains of AT do not " believe " in using absolutes at all in a

therapeutic manner.

Guess *that* depends on one's definition of AT which is still " unclear " at

least to me. Further, I'm not a " purist " on the issue but ...

Wishes of Hope, Health, Joy and Healing,

Susan Renkel, RN / Changes Within

 

~ *^* ~ Exquisite Pure Essential oils, CO2's, & Blends ~ *^* ~

Wholesale or Retail. AT Starter Kits, Carrier Oils, Hard to Find Items.

Private Health Consults, Specializing in Chronic Pain Management.

~ *^* ~ ~ *^* ~ Freeburg, PA USA ~ *^* ~ ~ *^* ~

 

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+ACI-JCarrion+ACI- +ADw-jcm00055+AEA-teleline.es+AD4-

 

 

I have very good results in artrosis, discal protusions, chronic pains

allergies, and +ACI-depresive+ACI- (mind afecctions) deseases. It is true that

anybody want to accept what his real problem is caused (emotions), so when a

chronic ailment is not getting cured, I puncture the emotion points of the

bladder outer branch: 15-44b 18-47b 48b 20-49b 23-54b. And in addition to these,

local points (not much points, there are enough for a session). And the miracle

happens: next day he (the patient) has began to improve fron his pains, and

whatever you puncture now is very effective. Sometimes I use all these points,

and other just a few, depending on if the patient has a pain who is causing him

anger, frustation, hate... (18,19,47,48 b (the four, and bilateral)), or if he

is obsessioned with this pain (20-49b), if he is surrounding to it, loosing

hope, the volunteer to improve (23,54b). Or if the pain began time after an

anger-frustrated situation (liver again), losing self-estime (liver and kidney),

etc. I use the heart and pericardium, when I want to reinforce the treatment, or

when something hard happened in the past, espiritual afections, etc. If you are

able to see beyond the eyes of the patient, reading the Shen, this, believe me,

is very effective.

 

geovani+AD4- Thanks for your comments, JC. I find this kind of contribuition

very usefull.

From which +ACI-source+ACI-, or TCM line did you learn to use these points? Do

you use all

the +ACI-emotion+ACI- points from bladder, or only some in each session? When

you say 15-44b do you mean 15 through 44 (including the ones between) of just

the point 15 and the point 44? Could you give me a relation of these

+ACI-emotion+ACI- points in a more specific manner?

Thanks again....

-geo-

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>I am brand new to TCM, so please excuse me and ignore me if I ask questions

>that have been asked and answered endlessly in the past. I know this

>happens so often on lists when newcomers join...

 

I guarantee there are other readers with the same questions.

 

>I am wondering whether the underlying philosophy of TCM is to try to achieve

>a state of balance in all individuals, as opposed to only being used as a

>tool to treat specific states of disease.

 

That's it exactly. Balance.

 

One of the main differences between TCM and Western allopathic medicine is that

TCM concentrates on identifying and treating root causes whereas Western

allopathic medicine concentrates on treating symptoms.

 

TCM recognizes that 5 individuals can each have the same liver symptoms, but the

root cause and thus the treatment may be different for each person. In one

person the cause may indeed be in the Liver/liver, in another it may be in the

Kidney, in another in the Lung, even in the Spleen or the Heart in the other

two.

 

Western medical entities and diseases very seldom correspond to TCM syndromes.

Two that do are the common cold and most cases of arthritis. Most medical

conditions - like diabetes or asthma - can be manifestations of different TCM

syndromes. Thus treatment is going to vary. Some cases of diabetes can be

corrected by identifying and treating the underlying TCM imbalance. Other cases

are improved but still need Western antidiabetic measures. The difference is

that after getting the TCM treatment, the person usually requires less insulin

and tends to have less of the other health problems that accompany diabetes

(like loss of eye sight, circulation problems, a need for amputation) than

diabetics not receiving the TCM treatment. Doctors in modern China don't

hestitate to use Western treatments when called for and when it's in the best

interest of the patient.

 

If Western medical researchers were breaking down medical conditions into TCM

subclasses, they would be far better at predicting when a specific drug is going

to work and work well, and when it's going to be useless or even cause more

problems. BTW, Wicke of the Rocky Mountian Herbal Institute reports that

antibiotics will only work well in cases of Excess Heat. They're useless and can

even cause problems in cases of Deficiency Heat. (The terms Excess and

Deficiency will become clearer the more you read about TCM. In general, Excess

means the problem is coming from too much of something (like Phlegm, Stagnation,

spicy foods, overwhelming infection, etc), and Deficiency means the Heat is

coming because there's not enough of something (like too little Yin to cool the

body). It's recognized in Chinese medicine and philosophy that everything is

always changing and contains it opposite. So Excess can change into Deficieny

like when too many spicy foods over too long a period of time (Excess) damage

the Stomach's Yin (Deficiency). Or, when Deficiency Cold (too little Yang energy

which warms the body) causes Stagnation or even Phlegm. (Stagnation and Phlegm

are classified as Excess problems. Their root causes can be either Excess or

Deficiency, Heat or Cold.)

 

But don't worry about fine-tuning it this much in the beginning. That will come

naturally as you become more acquainted with TCM.

 

>Can everyone benefit from use of

>various components of TCM, or only those who are suffering some problem or

>another?

 

One of the uses of TCM is to keep people from getting sick. I have read that at

one point in China's history doctors were paid for keeping people well, not for

treating them after they got sick.

 

As you get into TCM one thing you will discover is that some of the TCM

diagnostic techniques can reveal developing problems long before lab work can

pick them up. Part of the TCM prevention techniques is learning to pay attention

to your own body and recognize when it's telling you that a problem is

developing. In an earlier post I gave the example of how I learned to pay

attention to a soreness in the middle of the soles of my feet. It turns out this

area is the K 1 (Kidney 1) acupuncture/ acupressure point, and in my particular

case soreness in this area always signals that I'm about to have problems with a

flare-up of a recurring infection I'm troubled with. I've learned to take

precautions when I feel that soreness and thus either prevent the flare-up or

lessen it considerably. If I wait until the infection shows up in urinalysis or

blood tests, it takes a lot longer and a lot more treatment to beat it back than

if I nip it in the early stages.

 

One general TCM guide you will see for healthy people is to eat foods that

contain the energy of the season of the year in order to be in tune with the

seasons. For example, winter is the most Yin season of the year so eat some Yin

foods during the winter (even though they are cooling) to be in tune with the

seasons. In cases where the person has an imbalance toward already being too

Cold, this individual is instructed to eat more Yang foods during the winter.

 

>Do you begin to evaluate where you are using the descriptions of the Eight

>Principal Patterns?

 

Yes. This is a beginning and a good one. Later on you will learn how to finetune

it, consider more factors (like the Pernicious Evil involved if one is involved)

and narrow it down to specific organ systems. For example fatigue is almost

always caused by Deficiency (except in those cases where it's caused by

overdoing and is called Fatigue of Excess). But in cases of longterm fatigue

that do not respond to rest, which Deficiency is it? Is it a Deficiency of Qi

(energy), Blood, Yang, or Yin? In the cases of Yin Deficiency there also will be

nervousness because one of the functions of Yin is to calm the body. There also

will tend to be Heat problems in cases of Yin Deficiency because Yin cools the

body. The person will have more problems in summer than in winter, will tend to

feel thirsty, and will prefer cold drinks to hot ones. The tongue will tend to

be red and maybe have fissures. Urine will tend to be dark-colored, and

constipation will tend to be a problem.

 

Even though fatigue is also a symptom of Yang Deficiency, the other symptoms

tend to be the exact opposite. The person will be bothered more by cold than by

heat, will rarely feel thirsty, and will prefer hot or room temperature drinks

over cold drinks. The tongue will tend to be pale. The urine will tend to be

clear or light-colored and a lot of it. As you learn more, you learn that

different organ systems will have specific symptoms in addition to these general

ones.

 

A pale tongue can also be a symptom of Blood Deficiency. But, in the case of

Blood Deficiency the tongue will tend to be dry. In the case of Yang Deficiency

it will be moist, often even too wet. (You can see bubbles on the surface of the

tongue in some extreme cases.)

 

A pale tongue also can be a symptom of Qi Deficiency. There are different

manifestations of Qi. For example, there is the Protective Qi that protects the

person from outside evils and controls the opening and shuting of the pores of

the skin. Because there is not enough Qi to properly control the opening and

closing of the pores, a person with Qi Deficiency tends to sweat a lot, even

when a normal person would not. (Other conditions can also cause excessive

sweating, but there's a constellation of symptoms specific to each.) If the Qi

Deficiency is left untreated, it may develop into Yang Deficiency. A person with

Yang Deficiency may experience the spontaneous sweating sometimes, but may get

to the point where there's no perspiration. Also, you won't see the tendency to

feel cold a lot and have trouble warming up with Qi Deficiency that you see with

Yang Deficiency. There's also a matter of degrees of fatigue. Yang Deficiency is

like the extreme of the various Deficiency Syndromes. Nothing is quite as

fatiguing as Yang Deficiency, especially when more than one organ system is

affected (like when a person is both Spleen Yang and Kidney Yang Deficient).

 

Don't worry about memorizing any of this. The more you read, the more will stick

with you.

 

>Please just ignore me if this is a stupid question!!!

 

They're not stupid questions; they're good questions.

 

Victoria

 

 

 

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At 02:29 PM 3/19/00 -0500, Jen Hutton wrote:

>Jen Hutton <jhutton

>

>On Sunday, March 19, 2000 10:12 AM, Carl Weisbrod [sMTP:askcarl]

>wrote:

> >> I think, Jen, that's the #1 mind-blowing bit of scientific

> > insight of the last half of the 20th century...that not only

> > are we the sum total of all our parts, but all our parts

> > (clear down to the cell) are each a sum total of us.

>______________________________

>

>Puh-leez! Not that Michael Talbot's book isn't a good one, but let's give a

>little credit to thousands of years of civilization here! The idea of a

>holographic universe (where each piece contains the whole) has been

>implicit in

>many spiritual belief systems from all over the globe since the beginning of

>time.

>

> " As above, so below; as below, so above " is an ancient hermetic principle

>discussed at great length in " The Kybalion. " Also many eastern mystics (J.

>Krishnamurti is a more recent example) talk about a similar " pattern of

>wholeness " enfolded within all being. Taoist and Ayurvedic traditions also

>honor the same principle, and it (although maybe not expressed in quite the

>same way) was a belief held by the " pagan " or nature worshiping peoples of

>the

>Neolithic period on the European continent and among the indigenous Native

>American peoples as well.

>

>Because the western scientific community is suddenly coming to this

>realization

>doesn't mean they've had a great insight! It means they're beginning to pay

>attention to the collective knowledge of the planet.

>

>Maybe there's hope!

>

>Jen Hutton

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`````

Tell me more, Jen, sounds like you have some interesting

ideas!

 

I haven't read Talbot's book--I recall part of the inspiration

for it was Karl Pribram's work in holograms. Is that what

you are objecting to? My comments derived more from Watson

and Cricks DNA discovery, and now the Human Genome

Project. I do agree that science is not always on the forefront

with ideas, but when that group comes up with a consensus

it's (to me at least) pretty convincing.

 

Carl Weisbrod

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IMHO science is getting to a lot of these kinds of ideas because there are

some limiting factors to thier methodology. The two greatest are both

related to measurement, which is the one of the first tenents of scientific

method. " If you cna't measure it, it didn't happen. " Three hundred years

ago, the electo-magnetic spectrum was a highly unlikely theory at best. Now

we have cell phones. Many of the troubles that allopathic medicine has with

energy work are based on thier inablilty to measure those phenomena to their

satisfaction. Scientific method also has a tendency to mis-understand

synergy. Since scientific method is largely based on the principle of

" change one factor, then test again " , the effects of multiple factors

interacting can be confusing to the scientific world view.

 

The tough thing can be knowing when to use science and when to take it with

a grain of salt.

 

Ray Hunter

 

>Carl Weisbrod <askcarl

>

> , " ' ' " < >

>Re:

>Sun, 19 Mar 2000 10:44:28 -1000

>

>At 02:29 PM 3/19/00 -0500, Jen Hutton wrote:

> >Jen Hutton <jhutton

> >

> >On Sunday, March 19, 2000 10:12 AM, Carl Weisbrod

>[sMTP:askcarl]

> >wrote:

> > >> I think, Jen, that's the #1 mind-blowing bit of scientific

> > > insight of the last half of the 20th century...that not only

> > > are we the sum total of all our parts, but all our parts

> > > (clear down to the cell) are each a sum total of us.

> >______________________________

> >

> >Puh-leez! Not that Michael Talbot's book isn't a good one, but let's give

>a

> >little credit to thousands of years of civilization here! The idea of a

> >holographic universe (where each piece contains the whole) has been

> >implicit in

> >many spiritual belief systems from all over the globe since the beginning

>of

> >time.

> >

> > " As above, so below; as below, so above " is an ancient hermetic principle

> >discussed at great length in " The Kybalion. " Also many eastern mystics

>(J.

> >Krishnamurti is a more recent example) talk about a similar " pattern of

> >wholeness " enfolded within all being. Taoist and Ayurvedic traditions

>also

> >honor the same principle, and it (although maybe not expressed in quite

>the

> >same way) was a belief held by the " pagan " or nature worshiping peoples

>of

> >the

> >Neolithic period on the European continent and among the indigenous

>Native

> >American peoples as well.

> >

> >Because the western scientific community is suddenly coming to this

> >realization

> >doesn't mean they've had a great insight! It means they're beginning to

>pay

> >attention to the collective knowledge of the planet.

> >

> >Maybe there's hope!

> >

> >Jen Hutton

>````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````

>`````

>Tell me more, Jen, sounds like you have some interesting

>ideas!

>

>I haven't read Talbot's book--I recall part of the inspiration

>for it was Karl Pribram's work in holograms. Is that what

>you are objecting to? My comments derived more from Watson

>and Cricks DNA discovery, and now the Human Genome

>Project. I do agree that science is not always on the forefront

>with ideas, but when that group comes up with a consensus

>it's (to me at least) pretty convincing.

>

>Carl Weisbrod

>http://askcarl.net

 

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At 10:01 AM 3/20/00 -0800, Ray Hunter wrote:

> " Ray Hunter " <rayhuntermt

>

>IMHO science is getting to a lot of these kinds of ideas because there are

>some limiting factors to thier methodology. The two greatest are both

>related to measurement, which is the one of the first tenents of scientific

>method. " If you cna't measure it, it didn't happen. " Three hundred years

>ago, the electo-magnetic spectrum was a highly unlikely theory at best. Now

>we have cell phones. Many of the troubles that allopathic medicine has with

>energy work are based on thier inablilty to measure those phenomena to their

>satisfaction. Scientific method also has a tendency to mis-understand

>synergy. Since scientific method is largely based on the principle of

> " change one factor, then test again " , the effects of multiple factors

>interacting can be confusing to the scientific world view.

>

>The tough thing can be knowing when to use science and when to take it with

>a grain of salt.

>

>Ray Hunter

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Good points, Ray. Also, sometimes we (the public) fall in love so

much with modern technology that we attempt to use it for everything.

 

Here's a quote I like: " To ward off disease or recover health, men as a rule

find it easier to depend on healers than attempt the more difficult task of

living wisely. " Rene Dubos said that...when he mentioned healers I interpret

that to mean the surgeons that yank out prostates and fool around with

coronary arteries. Women have gotten almost as bad in this regard.

 

Carl

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At 02:23 PM 3/20/00 -0600, J. Ramirez wrote:

> " J. Ramirez " <jimmyk

>

>Hi All:

>

>Carl Weisbrod wrote, " Here's a quote I like: " To ward off disease or recover

>health, men as a rule find it easier to depend on healers than attempt the

>more difficult task of living wisely. " "

>

>Such an incisive observation! Way to go Carl!!!

>_____________________________

>Jimmy K. Ramirez / Kingsville, Texas

>jimmyk

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Hey, Jimmy...thanks a lot! ...but wouldn't ya know;

the only compliment I've gotten so far is for something

I didn't write. That quote came from Rene Dubos who

wrote " Mirage of Health " (a book I've never read). I got

it from the dynamite book " Save Yourself from Breast

Cancer " by Robert Kradjian. He's a breast surgeon

who had guts 'nuff to say " if you change your lifestyle

you won't need him. " (My best quote to date is: " Life

is like an Irish stew, it's fulla things. " )

 

....but, thanks,

carl

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Hi All:

 

Carl Weisbrod wrote, " Here's a quote I like: " To ward off disease or recover

health, men as a rule find it easier to depend on healers than attempt the

more difficult task of living wisely. " "

 

Such an incisive observation! Way to go Carl!!!

_____________________________

Jimmy K. Ramirez / Kingsville, Texas

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worry and concern. A worried person

sees a problem, and a concerned

person solves a problem. "

 

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Hi Scott! Glad to hear you're working and loving it! Hope your practice

thrives, and that you're still getting in alot of climbing!

 

Toni

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Thanks for the recommendation. I haven't checked this book out yet.

Interlibrary loan hasn't been able to get it for me yet, and it's still a

rather expensive book on amazon.com. I usually check TCM books out via

interlibrary loan first to make sure the book is good and worth buying. I

may go ahead and buy a copy without first checking it out.

 

Victoria

 

 

>The book you refer to (the foundation of Chinese medicine) is only volume

>one, for the information that you require you need to purchase the book the

> " The practice of Chinese medicine " , this book discusses the application of

>Chinese medical theory and the treatment of specific diseases. It

>extensively deals with each disease within the context of Acupuncture and

>Chinese herbal medicine. The two books together then, give you a complete

>grounding in the basics of Chinese medicine, both theory and practice.

 

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Dear Sam

 

The book you refer to (the foundation of Chinese medicine) is only volume

one, for the information that you require you need to purchase the book the

" The practice of Chinese medicine " , this book discusses the application of

Chinese medical theory and the treatment of specific diseases. It

extensively deals with each disease within the context of Acupuncture and

Chinese herbal medicine. The two books together then, give you a complete

grounding in the basics of Chinese medicine, both theory and practice.

 

Kevin

 

 

>I was disappointed in two areas, and wonder if there are some other texts

>which may be >helpful. 1) He didn't describe which Chinese herbs to use for

>the various disorders. Are >there some good books for that? 2) I did not

>see a practical way to find out which TCM >disease classification a patient

>might fit into. It looks like the book is organized into >identifying

>disease patterns according to Internal Organs, according to Five Elements,

> >according to channels, etc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

K.Anderson, SM.BAcR

http://www.acupuncture-clinic.co.uk

 

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24 Aug 2000

Dear Master Fe,

I am presently doing distant healing on the following case.

Name: Marlies Altherr Age 48 sex F Nat: Swiss

On July 3-25 she was confined in a hospital and the findings were she had

Cancer of the stomach. the following organs were then removed

Ovary,uterus,appendix,spleen,part of colon,part of the lympathic in the

pelvis area. she was dischared on the 25th and sent home. on the first week

of August she was rushed back to the hospital, her intestines were blocked.

she then started to retain a lot of fluid on her stomach area and upper

legs. It was then that Remy (Institute) asked me to do Distant healing on

her. I was able to communicate with her friend and started the treatment

around the 11th of this month.

 

Latest word from is that she is better, the water in the legs have subsided.

however there is still some in her stomach. she is presently in a wheelchair

and expects to recover. Could you then advise me on the areas i could

energize a bit . I noticed that her chakras have weakened. i dare not

energize since it may strenthen the C.

In Light & Love

Enzo

 

 

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I know the doctorate in this profession has generated a lot of debate, but

has anyone thought of instituting both clinical and research doctorates,

something akin to the M.D., Ph.D. programs that are in existence now?

Sean Doherty

 

 

I certainly hope that research is implemented into the Doctoral programs!

I was rather disappointed to learn when I entered PCOM that I could earn a

MS without doing some sort of prevalent research. As a graduating

student... I am looking forward to all the possibilities! I have done some

Western Research and have maintained connections with a lab. The study I

did, titled Thiamine Deficiency-Induced Disruptions in the Diurnal Rhythm

and Regulation of Body Temperature in the Rat... was published in Metabolic

Brain Disease, in 1998. I am certainly looking forward to applying for NIH

grants and doing clinical studies. I have a couple of ideas... that has

kept me awake at night... thinking about the design and all! Although for

now, I must stay attentive to passing the boards... in 6 short weeks!!!

 

Teresa, Class of 2000

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, " Teresa Hall " <

Teresa.bodywork4u@w...> wrote:

> I know the doctorate in this profession has generated a lot of

debate, but

> has anyone thought of instituting both clinical and research

doctorates,

> something akin to the M.D., Ph.D. programs that are in existence

now?

> Sean Doherty

>

this was debated extensively and finally dismissed as the cohort of

students interested in pursuing a TCM research doctorate is miniscule

and could not jusitfy the creation of such a program. However

research

will be integral at the doctoral level at PCOM and we may be applying

to become a permanent NIH research facility.

 

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Anybody knows somebody good for a breast cancer pt in the Columbus or Worthington Ohio area

thanks

alon

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Anybody has experience in treating loss of sense of smell right after a flu. Interestingly the first symptoms the patient had is palpitation (as CM states that the sense of smell is via the heart and lungs).

Alon

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What are some the opinions on the affects of cannabis smacking. What does it do to pulse, complicating factor to other disorders, most common s/s implication, herbs used etc.

Alon

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on 12/24/00 11:20 AM, alonmarcus at alonmarcus wrote:

 

What are some the opinions on the affects of cannabis smacking. What does it do to pulse, complicating factor to other disorders, most common s/s implication, herbs used etc.

 

Alon

 

 

I assume smacking is a typo, not a reference to heroin use ? :)

 

My observation is that marijuana does the following:

1) sometimes speeds up the pulse (depending on length of time since last having smoked pot)

2) scatters the pulse (se mai)

3) sometimes more slippery

 

or a combination of the above. Definitely se mai/scattered pulse is present. I've often been able to tell when a patient has been smoking pot in the previous week by the pulse. Dr. Jack Worsley talks about marijuana in his book " All About Acupuncture " (I think that is the correct title). He feels that one cannot cure many illnesses if the patient smokes pot, as the pulse is so greatly effected for a long period after smoking. He thinks it is much more deep-acting than alcohol on the body and mind.

 

As far as complicating other disorders, that is a large topic. . . .some patients use it with chemotherapy , and it is hard to tell, as the chemotherapy also strongly affects the pulse. With other conditions, it definitely has to be factored in with the overall diagnosis, and may interfere with treatment. Here, the amount smoked, frequency, length of use and constitution are important factors.

 

I try to look at marijuana as an herbal medicinal, albeit a very powerful one that descends stomach qi rebellion, regulates and scatters qi, enters heart, liver and kidney channels. It appears to be warm and drying, consuming yin (dry mouth, thirst, increasing hunger). Most substances that influence the consciousness I would conjecture enter the shao yin channel (ht/kd), and it can speed up the heart and cause palpatations, and affect coordination (liver/sinews).

 

This is at least a partial analysis. I leave this open for others to contribute at this point.

 

 

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> alonmarcus wrote:

>

> What are some the opinions on the affects of cannabis smacking. What

> does it do to pulse, complicating factor to other disorders, most

> common s/s implication, herbs used etc.

 

Seems like everybody is looking at pot as a yin burner, I think I agree,

but I'd also like to talk a little bit about its effect from the

perspective of the user.

 

Without implicating any misdemeanors, (gotta love the Golden State)

I've noticed a heightening of sensitivity to the Po shen. The spirit of

the Lungs. Po things to me are instinctual. The ability to find a

groove to music is an expression of this heightened Po experience as is

the groove one finds during procreative activities.

 

There is another way of looking at Marijuana use too, and it resonates

with Chinese herbalism. In my shamanic studies, we talk about the

energy of an herb as a conscious spirit. The so-called " Pot Ally " is an

energy that arrives via the smoke, provides the smoker with an herb's

unique perceptions and in return takes something away, which is perhaps

the best explanation for feeling " wasted " after smoking cannabis. If I

were to translate that term into TCM, I'd say that the sensory orifices

are veiled or there is phlegm misting the heart orifices just a little

bit. There's a snotty damp quality to it all.

 

My interpretation of the energy of Pot is creative and at times

hedonistic. There is that whole " groove " factor as well as a few other

traits that arise from its ingestion, many of which really do remind me

of the Po shen. More and more lately, I've begun to look at the effects

of pot smoking as a kind of possession by the spirit of cannabis.

 

Possession is generally considered a negative, but of course you get

something in return. Whether or not that is constructive is not

something that I can say unequivocally, but I do recognize the stupidity

of making important decisions while the pot ally is behind the wheel.

 

I would welcome more discussion about other herbs and their spirits on

this list. I think that understanding the spirit or ally of an herb

will provide us all with better understanding of its uses. I do think

that plants have spirits and that we can perceive them as such.

 

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Al Stone L.Ac.

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http://www.BeyondWellBeing.com

 

Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

 

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