Guest guest Report post Posted April 16, 2010 Hi. I'm very new to Kundalini Yoga (1 week) but have already experienced wonderful effects and am dedicated to continuing. I just have a question about whether regular practice literally causes release of toxins stored in the body. I am still breastfeeding my 17 month old and am just a little nervous about whether toxins are being released and then excreted into the milk. If anyone has any thoughts or information about this please let me know. Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 17, 2010 Hello,  I may not be able to answer your toxicity question, but as a pediatric health professional, may I ask why you decided to continue breast-feeding a 17-month old child?   Is your pediatrician aware of this? There are many psycho-social factors to consider when nursing a child of that age. Do you have a plan in mind to wean your child?  Warmly, k  --- On Fri, 4/16/10, mels115 <mmwaking wrote: mels115 <mmwaking Kundalini Yoga Releasing Toxins and Nursing? Kundaliniyoga Friday, April 16, 2010, 8:55 AM  Hi. I'm very new to Kundalini Yoga (1 week) but have already experienced wonderful effects and am dedicated to continuing. I just have a question about whether regular practice literally causes release of toxins stored in the body. I am still breastfeeding my 17 month old and am just a little nervous about whether toxins are being released and then excreted into the milk. If anyone has any thoughts or information about this please let me know. Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 17, 2010 Hi. I have to admit that I'm a bit taken aback to start my journey with this group by being challenged on such a personal issue. I don't really want to get into a debate about it, but I will tell you that current World Health Organization, Health Canada, and Toronto Public Health (where I live) guidelines are to nurse children to " 2 years and beyond " . Here are a couple quick google results that give some of my reasons. http://www.kellymom.com/bf/bfextended/ebf-benefits.html http://www.llli.org/NB/NBSepOct07p196.html I am near completion of a PhD in Clinical Psychology and have no concerns for my child's emotional, psychological or social functioning. He is a well-adjusted, happy, confident toddler. I have complete respect for women who choose to wean earlier. It's a personal choice. I only mentioned his age because I know he deals physically with exposure to substances differently than a younger baby. I appreciate that you were only responding out of concern. Thank you for that. Kundaliniyoga , Kristy McClain <healthyplay1 wrote: > > Hello, >  > I may not be able to answer your toxicity question, but as a pediatric health professional, may I ask why you decided to continue breast-feeding a 17-month old child?   Is your pediatrician aware of this? There are many psycho-social factors to consider when nursing a child of that age. Do you have a plan in mind to wean your child? >  > Warmly, k >  > > > --- On Fri, 4/16/10, mels115 <mmwaking wrote: > > > mels115 <mmwaking > Kundalini Yoga Releasing Toxins and Nursing? > Kundaliniyoga > Friday, April 16, 2010, 8:55 AM > > >  > > > > Hi. I'm very new to Kundalini Yoga (1 week) but have already experienced wonderful effects and am dedicated to continuing. I just have a question about whether regular practice literally causes release of toxins stored in the body. I am still breastfeeding my 17 month old and am just a little nervous about whether toxins are being released and then excreted into the milk. If anyone has any thoughts or information about this please let me know. > > Thanks! > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 17, 2010 Sat Nam! I have been nursing consecutively for almost 5 years (2 different children). This has been a thought that I had as well. From my understanding, it is a gradual process. We release toxins everyday without yoga. Yoga just helps it happen more efficiently. I haven't noticed any adverse affects in my 2 year old who still nurses. I will have been practicing a year this June. Kristy - There is no reason that the original poster should consider weaning her child if neither she nor her child is ready to do so. Breastfeeding is a mutual decision and if she is still happy nursing and her baby wants to nurse then this relationship can only strengthen the security her baby feels in the world, not to mention that breastmilk is the perfect food for her child. The AAP suggests breastfeeding for at least 6 months, but says that a year or more is excellent and very beneficial to mother and baby. The average age in the world to wean is around age 3. Most children will naturally wean at that time as my oldest daughter did. It has only been with the introduction of formula and baby foods at early ages that we have felt this social pressure to wean. Breastfeeding helps in so many ways naturally space our children, by decreasing fertility somewhat in many women. I have to say that my oldest daughter is a very secure child, independent, and happy in the world. I have seen no adverse affects for either her nor myself in extended breastfeeding, and no doctor we have seen has ever told us to stop for any reason. She weaned herself at age 3 with no trouble,tears, or feelings of separation. Thanks, Kelli Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 18, 2010 Hmmm, what's wrong with nursing a child of 17 months, just because it isn't so common in this country because of holdover ideas from the 1950's? Throughout human history and in probably most parts of the world today, it's NORMAL to nurse at least a bare minimum of a year. A friend of mine who was in Malaysia for the Peace Corps and traveled around quite a bit said she met a girl who was still breastfeeding at age 11- as kind of an " afternoon snack " in an impoverished country where sugar is a very rare delicacy. Even in this country, hasn't everyone heard of the La Leche League organization, dedicated to helping Moms support each other in successful nursing? Their policy is that nursing for years is ok if everybody's happy and it is certainly healthy. You might give them a call with your question. They are serving for that purpose! As for the toxicity question, it's probably not an issue, but drink lots of water before and after yoga and observe your child for anything unusual after a hard kriya. Foodstuff comes through the milk readily, but body toxins are more likely to be released through the breath, sweat, and urine. By now your child is probably getting a lot of nutrition from solid food as well and has a much heavier body mass in relation to the volume of milk ingested. If you happen to notice anything unusual, you could exercise less intensely, but I doubt you will. But your child will positively bask in the good vibes produced by a happy sadhana! I breastfed my 3 kids for a total of almost 10 glorious years, and it was one of the best things I've ever done in my life. Kundaliniyoga , Kristy McClain <healthyplay1 wrote: > > Hello, >  > I may not be able to answer your toxicity question, but as a pediatric health professional, may I ask why you decided to continue breast-feeding a 17-month old child?   Is your pediatrician aware of this? There are many psycho-social factors to consider when nursing a child of that age. Do you have a plan in mind to wean your child? >  > Warmly, k >  > > > --- On Fri, 4/16/10, mels115 <mmwaking wrote: > > > mels115 <mmwaking > Kundalini Yoga Releasing Toxins and Nursing? > Kundaliniyoga > Friday, April 16, 2010, 8:55 AM > > >  > > > > Hi. I'm very new to Kundalini Yoga (1 week) but have already experienced wonderful effects and am dedicated to continuing. I just have a question about whether regular practice literally causes release of toxins stored in the body. I am still breastfeeding my 17 month old and am just a little nervous about whether toxins are being released and then excreted into the milk. If anyone has any thoughts or information about this please let me know. > > Thanks! > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 18, 2010 Hello..    Your facts disturb me. If you expressed milk into a bottle for a child who has reached weaning age.. ok-- that is  fine and subject to your health , your child's,, and your credentialed care provider's agreement.  Perhaps I mis-understood.  I assumed she was still suckling a child whose physical/ social / and psyco-social development is indeed in jeopardy when a female is using an innocent child in this manner.   It is by no means a fact that such an activity is appropriate world-wide. If it is practiced with cultural acceptance, it is serving a darker craving of a parent, and the innocent forever suffers psycho-socially.   For the the record..   I have behavioral medicine and psychological credentials from both Standford, U. Az / Integrative Med,, Zen -monastic training, and three fellowships in alternative pediatric care centers.   I am not judgemental. I care about the child-- first and always.  In my experience with psycho-sexual development, as I work with patients, I had a female patient who actually suckled a 10-yr. old. Sucking her breasts & !  No.. that is neither healthy , nor rational for either. I can't believe you are suggesting this is appropriate. As we know, such actions are sexual substitutions and ego-driven. I witnes tragic self-destruction among seventeed different children who endured this dysfunctional family system. No-- this is by no means, love. Its has a pathology, but there are treatments.  K    --- On Sat, 4/17/10, ramneetfl <ramneetfl wrote: ramneetfl <ramneetfl Re: Kundalini Yoga Releasing Toxins and Nursing? Kundaliniyoga Saturday, April 17, 2010, 5:57 PM  Hmmm, what's wrong with nursing a child of 17 months, just because it isn't so common in this country because of holdover ideas from the 1950's? Throughout human history and in probably most parts of the world today, it's NORMAL to nurse at least a bare minimum of a year. A friend of mine who was in Malaysia for the Peace Corps and traveled around quite a bit said she met a girl who was still breastfeeding at age 11- as kind of an " afternoon snack " in an impoverished country where sugar is a very rare delicacy. Even in this country, hasn't everyone heard of the La Leche League organization, dedicated to helping Moms support each other in successful nursing? Their policy is that nursing for years is ok if everybody's happy and it is certainly healthy. You might give them a call with your question. They are serving for that purpose! As for the toxicity question, it's probably not an issue, but drink lots of water before and after yoga and observe your child for anything unusual after a hard kriya. Foodstuff comes through the milk readily, but body toxins are more likely to be released through the breath, sweat, and urine. By now your child is probably getting a lot of nutrition from solid food as well and has a much heavier body mass in relation to the volume of milk ingested. If you happen to notice anything unusual, you could exercise less intensely, but I doubt you will. But your child will positively bask in the good vibes produced by a happy sadhana! I breastfed my 3 kids for a total of almost 10 glorious years, and it was one of the best things I've ever done in my life. Kundaliniyoga, Kristy McClain <healthyplay1@ ...> wrote: > > Hello, >  > I may not be able to answer your toxicity question, but as a pediatric health professional, may I ask why you decided to continue breast-feeding a 17-month old child?   Is your pediatrician aware of this? There are many psycho-social factors to consider when nursing a child of that age. Do you have a plan in mind to wean your child? >  > Warmly, k >  > > > --- On Fri, 4/16/10, mels115 <mmwaking@.. .> wrote: > > > mels115 <mmwaking@.. .> > Kundalini Yoga Releasing Toxins and Nursing? > Kundaliniyoga > Friday, April 16, 2010, 8:55 AM > > >  > > > > Hi. I'm very new to Kundalini Yoga (1 week) but have already experienced wonderful effects and am dedicated to continuing. I just have a question about whether regular practice literally causes release of toxins stored in the body. I am still breastfeeding my 17 month old and am just a little nervous about whether toxins are being released and then excreted into the milk. If anyone has any thoughts or information about this please let me know. > > Thanks! > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 18, 2010 Sorry.. not true.   I am indee a comminteed to practice K-yoga, meditatioin  and many alternative health modalities. But i have very solid academic, and cultural training. Yopu  have an opinion, and I respect that deeply. But it is not a fact.'   Make no mistake. I will protect the children first. I will never allow abuse, regardless of cultural norms, or the  lack of knowledge by individuals. '' The children always come first.   K --- On Sat, 4/17/10, Kelli <kudzumountain wrote: Kelli <kudzumountain Kundalini Yoga Re: Releasing Toxins and Nursing? Kundaliniyoga Saturday, April 17, 2010, 6:51 AM  Sat Nam! I have been nursing consecutively for almost 5 years (2 different children). This has been a thought that I had as well. From my understanding, it is a gradual process. We release toxins everyday without yoga. Yoga just helps it happen more efficiently. I haven't noticed any adverse affects in my 2 year old who still nurses. I will have been practicing a year this June. Kristy - There is no reason that the original poster should consider weaning her child if neither she nor her child is ready to do so. Breastfeeding is a mutual decision and if she is still happy nursing and her baby wants to nurse then this relationship can only strengthen the security her baby feels in the world, not to mention that breastmilk is the perfect food for her child. The AAP suggests breastfeeding for at least 6 months, but says that a year or more is excellent and very beneficial to mother and baby. The average age in the world to wean is around age 3. Most children will naturally wean at that time as my oldest daughter did. It has only been with the introduction of formula and baby foods at early ages that we have felt this social pressure to wean. Breastfeeding helps in so many ways naturally space our children, by decreasing fertility somewhat in many women. I have to say that my oldest daughter is a very secure child, independent, and happy in the world. I have seen no adverse affects for either her nor myself in extended breastfeeding, and no doctor we have seen has ever told us to stop for any reason. She weaned herself at age 3 with no trouble,tears, or feelings of separation. Thanks, Kelli Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 18, 2010 Sorry,   I have every concern. Your facts are twisted to suit your bias, and i doubt your credentials. My sister is also a well-known attorney in Washington, D.C., and committed to child-safety. Her hisband is an attorney, and is, in fact, one of the most powerful attorneys in this country. I'm not writing about this to serve my view. I simply will ferret out any and all child abuse I possibly can. Not one person here can go into a court of law and defend having her nipples sucked by a child who is 2 -10.  But I invite you to do so.  I am not trying to hurt others here. i am a zen and yoga teacher. But child safety always trumps as the right thing.   K     --- On Sat, 4/17/10, mels115 <mmwaking wrote: mels115 <mmwaking Re: Kundalini Yoga Releasing Toxins and Nursing? Kundaliniyoga Saturday, April 17, 2010, 6:31 AM  Hi. I have to admit that I'm a bit taken aback to start my journey with this group by being challenged on such a personal issue. I don't really want to get into a debate about it, but I will tell you that current World Health Organization, Health Canada, and Toronto Public Health (where I live) guidelines are to nurse children to " 2 years and beyond " . Here are a couple quick google results that give some of my reasons. http://www.kellymom .com/bf/bfextend ed/ebf-benefits. html http://www.llli. org/NB/NBSepOct0 7p196.html I am near completion of a PhD in Clinical Psychology and have no concerns for my child's emotional, psychological or social functioning. He is a well-adjusted, happy, confident toddler. I have complete respect for women who choose to wean earlier. It's a personal choice. I only mentioned his age because I know he deals physically with exposure to substances differently than a younger baby. I appreciate that you were only responding out of concern. Thank you for that. Kundaliniyoga, Kristy McClain <healthyplay1@ ...> wrote: > > Hello, >  > I may not be able to answer your toxicity question, but as a pediatric health professional, may I ask why you decided to continue breast-feeding a 17-month old child?   Is your pediatrician aware of this? There are many psycho-social factors to consider when nursing a child of that age. Do you have a plan in mind to wean your child? >  > Warmly, k >  > > > --- On Fri, 4/16/10, mels115 <mmwaking@.. .> wrote: > > > mels115 <mmwaking@.. .> > Kundalini Yoga Releasing Toxins and Nursing? > Kundaliniyoga > Friday, April 16, 2010, 8:55 AM > > >  > > > > Hi. I'm very new to Kundalini Yoga (1 week) but have already experienced wonderful effects and am dedicated to continuing. I just have a question about whether regular practice literally causes release of toxins stored in the body. I am still breastfeeding my 17 month old and am just a little nervous about whether toxins are being released and then excreted into the milk. If anyone has any thoughts or information about this please let me know. > > Thanks! > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 18, 2010 To All,   I have no interest in offending those here.   Let me add.. to all my other comments...  I am also married to a neurosurgeon, and his father is a renowned psychiatrist.  It is my belief in integrative care thaty inspired me to study yoga and zen...  My own training in pediatrics and behavioral medicine is rooted in the love and compassion for all children of the world.. K --- On Sat, 4/17/10, ramneetfl <ramneetfl wrote: ramneetfl <ramneetfl Re: Kundalini Yoga Releasing Toxins and Nursing? Kundaliniyoga Saturday, April 17, 2010, 5:57 PM  Hmmm, what's wrong with nursing a child of 17 months, just because it isn't so common in this country because of holdover ideas from the 1950's? Throughout human history and in probably most parts of the world today, it's NORMAL to nurse at least a bare minimum of a year. A friend of mine who was in Malaysia for the Peace Corps and traveled around quite a bit said she met a girl who was still breastfeeding at age 11- as kind of an " afternoon snack " in an impoverished country where sugar is a very rare delicacy. Even in this country, hasn't everyone heard of the La Leche League organization, dedicated to helping Moms support each other in successful nursing? Their policy is that nursing for years is ok if everybody's happy and it is certainly healthy. You might give them a call with your question. They are serving for that purpose! As for the toxicity question, it's probably not an issue, but drink lots of water before and after yoga and observe your child for anything unusual after a hard kriya. Foodstuff comes through the milk readily, but body toxins are more likely to be released through the breath, sweat, and urine. By now your child is probably getting a lot of nutrition from solid food as well and has a much heavier body mass in relation to the volume of milk ingested. If you happen to notice anything unusual, you could exercise less intensely, but I doubt you will. But your child will positively bask in the good vibes produced by a happy sadhana! I breastfed my 3 kids for a total of almost 10 glorious years, and it was one of the best things I've ever done in my life. Kundaliniyoga, Kristy McClain <healthyplay1@ ...> wrote: > > Hello, >  > I may not be able to answer your toxicity question, but as a pediatric health professional, may I ask why you decided to continue breast-feeding a 17-month old child?   Is your pediatrician aware of this? There are many psycho-social factors to consider when nursing a child of that age. Do you have a plan in mind to wean your child? >  > Warmly, k >  > > > --- On Fri, 4/16/10, mels115 <mmwaking@.. .> wrote: > > > mels115 <mmwaking@.. .> > Kundalini Yoga Releasing Toxins and Nursing? > Kundaliniyoga > Friday, April 16, 2010, 8:55 AM > > >  > > > > Hi. I'm very new to Kundalini Yoga (1 week) but have already experienced wonderful effects and am dedicated to continuing. I just have a question about whether regular practice literally causes release of toxins stored in the body. I am still breastfeeding my 17 month old and am just a little nervous about whether toxins are being released and then excreted into the milk. If anyone has any thoughts or information about this please let me know. > > Thanks! > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 19, 2010 Beautifully said ~ thank you Gordon. Sat Nam, Har Kaur Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 19, 2010 Kristy Sat Nam I just had to respond to this. I have had complaints from other members about your posts, and I can well understand why. If you are so concerned about child safety then you will no doubt be cognizant of the figures from third world countries, particularly in places such as Africa, where infant mortality has greatly increased thanks to the efforts of Nestle and other multinationals, totally concerned about bottom lines and not giving a damn for the well-being of their customers. Mother's milk is the natural way for infants to receive things such as anti-bodies and build up their immunity, essential to their health in many of these places, plus the complete lack of a hygienic water supply means that often the milk formula mothers have been told they should mix up and use for the good of their children comes complete with a cocktail of harmful, even lethal bacteria. This is not a place to be judgmental, nor to drop names, and I couldn't care less if you were directly related to the Attorney General - it does not make your opinions any more or less valid. Gordon - List Owner - Kristy McClain Kundaliniyoga Sunday, April 18, 2010 1:28 AM Re: Kundalini Yoga Releasing Toxins and Nursing? Sorry, I have every concern. Your facts are twisted to suit your bias, and i doubt your credentials. My sister is also a well-known attorney in Washington, D.C., and committed to child-safety. Her hisband is an attorney, and is, in fact, one of the most powerful attorneys in this country. I'm not writing about this to serve my view. I simply will ferret out any and all child abuse I possibly can. Not one person here can go into a court of law and defend having her nipples sucked by a child who is 2 -10. But I invite you to do so. I am not trying to hurt others here. i am a zen and yoga teacher. But child safety always trumps as the right thing. K Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anna Thomas 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2010 Wow! Just stumbled onto this site seeking info concerning breastfeeding and toxins during hot yoga. I am not impressed with your credentials, Ms. McClain, considering how warped you beliefs are, they are not in line with current science, nor anything to do with Stanford studies. I am not only a psychotherapist and post partum doula, but also considered an expert in the field of healthy sexual development of children as well as sexual abuse issues. You need to seriously consider therapy, hopefully before you spread your bile on future clients. If you have not sought professional help, I suggest you do, as if you were my grad student, i would refuse to allow you to seek licensure. Best, Dr. Thomas Hello..Â. Â. Â. Your facts disturb me. If you expressed milk into a bottleÂ. for a child who has reached weaning age.. ok-- that isÂ.Â. fine and subject to your health , your child's,, and yourÂ. credentialed care provider's agreement.Â. Â. PerhapsÂ.I mis-understood.Â.Â. IÂ. assumedÂ. she was still suckling a child whoseÂ. physical/Â. social /Â. and psyco-social developmentÂ. is indeedÂ. in jeopardy when a femaleÂ. isÂ.using an innocent childÂ. in this manner. Â. Â.It is by no means a factÂ.that such an activity is appropriate world-wide. If it is practiced with cultural acceptance, itÂ.is serving aÂ. darker craving ofÂ. a parent, and theÂ. innocent forever suffersÂ. psycho-socially. Â. Â. For the theÂ. record.. Â. Â.I have behavioral medicine and psychological credentialsÂ. from bothÂ. Standford, U. Az / Integrative Med,,Â. Zen -monastic training, and three fellowships in alternativeÂ. pediatric care centers. Â. Â.I am not judgemental.Â. I care about theÂ. child-- first and always. Â. In my experienceÂ. with psycho-sexual development, as IÂ. work with patients,Â. I had a female patient who actually suckledÂ. a 10-yr. old. Sucking her breasts & ! Â. No.. that is neither healthy , norÂ. rational for either.Â.I can't believe you are suggestingÂ. this is appropriate. As weÂ. know, suchÂ. actions are sexual substitutions and ego-driven.Â. IÂ. witnesÂ. tragic self-destruction among seventeed different children whoÂ. endured thisÂ. dysfunctional family system.Â. No-- this isÂ. by no means, love. ItsÂ. has a pathology, butÂ. there are treatments. Â. K Â. Â. Â. --- On Sat, 4/17/10, ramneetfl <ramneetfl wrote: ramneetfl <ramneetfl Re: Kundalini Yoga Releasing Toxins and Nursing? Kundaliniyoga Saturday, April 17, 2010, 5:57 PM Â. Hmmm, what's wrong with nursing a child of 17 months, just because it isn't so common in this country because of holdover ideas from the 1950's? Throughout human history and in probably most parts of the world today, it's NORMAL to nurse at least a bare minimum of a year. A friend of mine who was in Malaysia for the Peace Corps and traveled around quite a bit said she met a girl who was still breastfeeding at age 11- as kind of an " afternoon snack " in an impoverished country where sugar is a very rare delicacy. Even in this country, hasn't everyone heard of the La Leche League organization, dedicated to helping Moms support each other in successful nursing? Their policy is that nursing for years is ok if everybody's happy and it is certainly healthy. You might give them a call with your question. They are serving for that purpose! As for the toxicity question, it's probably not an issue, but drink lots of water before and after yoga and observe your child for anything unusual after a hard kriya. Foodstuff comes through the milk readily, but body toxins are more likely to be released through the breath, sweat, and urine. By now your child is probably getting a lot of nutrition from solid food as well and has a much heavier body mass in relation to the volume of milk ingested. If you happen to notice anything unusual, you could exercise less intensely, but I doubt you will. But your child will positively bask in the good vibes produced by a happy sadhana! I breastfed my 3 kids for a total of almost 10 glorious years, and it was one of the best things I've ever done in my life. Kundaliniyoga, Kristy McClain <healthyplay1@ ...> wrote: > > Hello, > ÂÂ. > I may not be able to answer your toxicity question, but as a pediatric health professional, mayÂÂ.IÂÂ. ask why youÂÂ. decided to continue breast-feedingÂÂ. a 17-month old child?ÂÂ.ÂÂ.ÂÂ.Is your pediatricianÂÂ. aware of this?ÂÂ. There are many psycho-social factors to consider whenÂÂ. nursing a child of that age. Do you have a plan in mind to wean your child? > ÂÂ. > Warmly, k > ÂÂ. > > > --- On Fri, 4/16/10, mels115 <mmwaking@.. .> wrote: > > > mels115 <mmwaking@.. .> > Kundalini Yoga Releasing Toxins and Nursing? > Kundaliniyoga > Friday, April 16, 2010, 8:55 AM > > > ÂÂ. > > > > Hi. I'm very new to Kundalini Yoga (1 week) but have already experienced wonderful effects and am dedicated to continuing. I just have a question about whether regular practice literally causes release of toxins stored in the body. I am still breastfeeding my 17 month old and am just a little nervous about whether toxins are being released and then excreted into the milk. If anyone has any thoughts or information about this please let me know. > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
