exaltation of planets

January 11, 2010

Mr Raj has expressed noble ideas in this thread; I wonder why he treated me

differently in another thread. Certainly, he thinks me to be an unwelcome

nuisance. But can Jyotisha be moulded into a monolith, cutting away all that is

not palatable to any particular group or ideology ?? If it happens, Jyotisha

will die. But I know it will never happen.

-vj

===================== ===

vedic astrology , " Dr. A. Bhatla " <astrologytree

wrote:

>

> Respected Raj,

>

> I have nothing against you or any other group member in mind. Infact I should

ask for forgiveness. You are my senior and comments of seniors are like

'signboards' on the path of learning.

>

> I agree with you and Respected Rohini Ji that Astrology is more a practical

subject and more we practice more sharper we become. Examining charts are one of

the most important part of learning astrology like any other branch of science.

Only care we should take about is that we do not forget other objectives of the

group and other aspects of our karma.

>

> I think members of this group are very lucky to have such learned astrologers.

I also manage a very small astrology forum and I understand the importance of

sacredness of spirit of forum and the cleaniness of the forum so that the

information is able to flow seamlessly without inappropriate noise inbetween.

>

> I am again sorry if I was rude and did hurt someone here.

>

> I am attached to this group and will again be here whenever I will have

another such 'weird thought' or 'stupid question' to ask.

>

> Kind Regards,

> Atul

>

> vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Raj_ji and Atul Saheb (and others),

> >

> > As long as Jyotish lives, it would be difficult to dissect the

didactic/academic from the practice!

> >

> > Jyotish, like medicine or engineering is an applied discipline!

> >

> > Their 'Nalandas' (Medical Colleges and IITs) would always need a Hospital or

a Workshop, right next to the LIBRARY and LECTURE HALLS, right on the CAMPUS!

> >

> > I suppose RELIGION is similar too! The Gurukool must have a TEMPLE right

next to where the theory gets learned!

> >

> > I am not sure if Narasimha is still engaged in running this forum, but I do

hope he shall agree with me on the above point and perspective.

> >

> > I have always felt that Jyotish, being a lively framework for TOTAL HUMAN

EXPERIENCE must be inclusive and ECLECTIC!

> >

> > Like here and elsewhere!

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > vedic astrology , " Raj " <rajbhardwaj1949@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Dr Atul,

> > >

> > > I am in agreement with you. If I have hurt you in any manner, I seek

> > > your forgiveness. As far the spirit behind starting this Group has been

> > > reiterated by you, I agree with it. Hoever, when the mast of the grou

> > > openes up, we find a foot note therwhich states :- " Note: This forum is

> > > for discussing concepts. If you want to submit your birth data for free

> > > help, you may do it. But be prepared for not getting a reply. Also

> > > understand, that the messages you post (which may contain sensitive

> > > information) is likely to be available on the web through search engines

> > > like Google, etc. We wont entertain requests to delete this later.

> > > So please think before you post.

> > >

> > > That is how the " requests for help " started appearing on the group, and

> > > astrologers ,who had time and inclination, did the analysis of

> > > respective charts and posted their advice/answers to the

> > > queries/problems. That is how , many astrologers have also gained in

> > > experience , from such analysis. Further, most of the times ,other

> > > astrologers/members also gave their opinions, which became a starting

> > > point of long discussions also. Thus, all us have also added to our

> > > learning and understanding in such discussions. You will agree that it

> > > is good way of enhancing our learnings , as it revolves around the

> > > concepts of astrology, so like doctors, astrologers also need people in

> > > problem, to help them, and thus hone up their skills.

> > >

> > > During past 9 years, I have saved a number of discussions on various

> > > concepts of applied astrology ,by saving such important pages for my

> > > peronal record and feel that I have greately improved my knwoledge and

> > > skills. Although I do have my own library, but , I need peple to come to

> > > me to practice the concepts of astrology to try to help them. That is

> > > why I also come to the the groups, where I am member, once a year,

> > > for providing free service once in a year' and this service also enables

> > > me to hone up my knowledge further.

> > >

> > > Therefore, I also request you to please relax, and please do continue

> > > with your contributions ,when you have time from your tight schedules.

> > > We will all gain together,notwithstanding few teasers here and there!!!!

> > > With my best regards !

> > >

> > > Raj Bhardwaj

> > >

> > > statesThat is why people

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal "

> > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear doctor -- relax! When you must drain an abscess, you must do

> > > exactly that!

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology , " Dr. A. Bhatla " astrologytree@

> > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Rohini Ji and all members,

> > > > >

> > > > > I have no intention to offend any of the member of the forum. But as

> > > this is a public forum I think I should express myself honestly.

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected PVR Narasimha Rao Ji had a great vision when he started

> > > this group. This is clearly reflected in the description of the group.

> > > Most of the members understand the vision seen by him when he started

> > > this group. But I think I want to write his vision in a simple language

> > > so that stupid people like me can understand for what reason did he

> > > actually kept the foundation of this sacred group. And all of us can

> > > respect his vision and stick to his intention behind starting this

> > > group.

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected PVR Narasimha Rao ji wanted to establish a place where

> > > there is a 'hermitage' like atmoshphere for learning astrology. He

> > > wanted to make an environment where non-corrupt information flow

> > > seamlessly and without any selfish intention.

> > > > >

> > > > > For Senior Astrologers and students of astrology he wanted to make a

> > > place to discuss the principles of Vedic astrology (Jyotish) in a

> > > hermitage-like atmosphere where there is atmosphere of:

> > > > >

> > > > > devoted learning,

> > > > > Selfless sharing,

> > > > > courtesy and mutual respect,

> > > > > novices can freely ask very basic questions and get answers,

> > > > > where very advanced discussions are going on alongside.

> > > > >

> > > > > For seekers and " need help " members:

> > > > >

> > > > > he never wanted to make this group as " need help " and " astrology

> > > consultation " group. This is clearly indicated in last few lines of the

> > > group descriptions. And he didn't wanted to astrologers to answer any

> > > such query so that such messages are not encouraged. This is also

> > > clearly indicated in this group description's last few lines.

> > > > >

> > > > > Again, I do not intend to hurt anybody, I think this group as a

> > > sacred place for learning astrology especially for persons like me who

> > > do not have any able guru nearby to learn from. And this was the

> > > intention of Respected PVR Narasimha Rao Ji and the vision he saw.

> > > > >

> > > > > I request all the members of the group to respect his great vision

> > > and stick to the guidelines stated by the Lord himself. Atleast this we

> > > can do to thank him for his selfless service to Astrology.

> > > > >

> > > > > If you have Any comment/complaint/suggestion for this mail and/or

> > > you want to abuse me or any other similar thing, please send me a email

> > > at my private email address. I may not notice any further message in

> > > this group in future.

> > > > >

> > > > > Please forgive me if I sound rude

> > > > >

> > > > > Kind regards

> > > > > Atul

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

January 11, 2010

" Astrology is also a professional subject " .

Ancient scriptures say otherwise. Cf. Manusmriti, Mahabharata.

-VJ

================== =====

vedic astrology , " Dr. A. Bhatla " <astrologytree

wrote:

>

> Respected Sudhir Ji,

>

> I agree completely with you. With no disrespect towards you, I know you

understand the importance of professionalism in any branch of science. And every

profession have some ethics attached with that profession which must be followed

by everyone, related to that profession, without exception.

>

> Respected Sudhir Ji, Following lines are not targeted for you specifically but

for all the members of the group, including me. (I know writing this seems

awkward, but I think it is necessary here as it is quite easy to misinterpret

someone in public forum and I don't want anyone to misinterpret me. Please

forgive me if I sound rude)

>

> There are some ethics described in the group description (though not straight

forward) by Respected PVR Narasimha Rao ji which have to be followed by group

members (with no exceptions I hope). So let all of us who are taking active part

in this forum read the description of the forum again before posting next

message in the group.

>

> Any comment/complaint/suggestion, either positive or negative, on this mail

will be positively interpreted.

>

> With warm regards

> Atul

>

> vedic astrology , " Sudhir " <taurus.sudhir@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Doctor

> >

> > Hope you are not running free hospital.

> >

> > Astrology is also a professional subject .

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Sudhir

> > Consultant astrologer

> >

--

> >

> > -

> > Dr. A. Bhatla

> > vedic astrology

> > Friday, January 08, 2010 12:07 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

> >

> > Respected Raj,

> >

> > Sorry for replying late. I

> > Was busy in hospital Just logged in today.

> >

> > Thanks for your kind comments. I have nothing against you in my mind,

believe me. Your this post show that your are really a very learned and great

astrologer already and I realised that i am a student.

> > Just like a seed.

> >

> > Anyhow, My aim for asking the question on marriage was to clarify my doubt

as it was raised when i listened to Respected PVR ji lessons. I found it in some

charts and thought i can be wrong and searched for a place where i can get

myself corrected. I thought this group will be a better place as this group is

managed by the Lord himself. So i presented with a simple question which however

changed lately to some explanations to present my view. Obviously with a hope

that you and other respected members will correct me. Anyway, i got myself

corrected or not you all know.

> >

> > Soon after posting my views i realised that this group is no longer used

for discussing astrology but now a days it is used for promoting professional's

shops.

> >

> > I am not a professional astrologer and learn astrology as a hobby. I have

a 20 bed hospital to manage and astrology is just like understanding the truth

behind our existence.

> >

> > But i am sorry, that i came here and wasted all your's time. I didn't knew

that astrology students are no longer welcome here to discuss their doubts on

astrology. And only learned astrologers can post.

> >

> > So please forgive me for writing this mail also as this mail will also

waste your time only.

> >

> > Although i have a humble request to the respected moderators of the group

that please change the " description " of the group.

> >

> > Kind regards,

> > Atul

> >

> > vedic astrology , " Raj " <rajbhardwaj1949@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Abhijit,

> > >

> > > The problem with many people like you, like few astrologers, like so

> > > called doctors ; and like few others (whom I am unable to categorise),

> > > who try to dabble in astrology is; that they do not posess requisite

> > > faculty to grasp the wit and subtle but well intended pun in Rohini's

> > > writings.

> > >

> > > Some one asks Primarly class Q on exaltation and debilitation of

> > > planets, the other gentelman describes to people that they have Love Yog

> > > in their horoscope, a doctor,who perhaps has no work to attend, has all

> > > the time on earth to do research in friendly relationships , which he

> > > insists, must be termed as first marriage,second marriage and so on.

> > > Funny people posing as astrologers on the group, who do not appear to

> > > have even basic common sense about astrology and talk through their

> > > hats.....are creating circus of great jokers ! And yes,It is really

> > > beoming interesting to enjoy their acts in their own created circus

> > > ....over the past 9 years.

> > >

> > > Rohini, I love your patience, great art of wit and envy the feelings

> > > of innocent enjoyment ,through writing in this group.It is worth it ,

> > > rather than going to see 3 Idiots ! I love it . Eagerly awaiting for

> > > your next reply to Abhijit !

> > >

> > > Raj Bhardwaj,Sh Aditya Jyotish Kendra,Pracheen Sh Hanuman Mandir, Dera

> > > Bassi (Near Chandigarh) Panjab

> > >

> >

January 15, 2010

I am sorry <nameless one!> that you felt crushed by my EGO :-)

Not sure how or where my bloat pressed you and CUT_OFF your circulation (neck

above!) but please share so that I can make amends or at least correct your

misconception! :-)

The 'etc.' who are unknown to me and to you too since you only named me (!) can

fend for themselves :-)

By the way, the right spelling should be JAiMINI PAtHI -- one who is on the path

shown by Jaimini Rishi! ;-)

Regards,

Rohiniranjan

vedic astrology , Jamini Padhi <jamini_padhi wrote:

>

> Dear Atul ji,

>

> Many members like Rohini, etc.Â have bloated egos. I have stopped posting

message or replying to any mail in this forum for the last 4 years due to people

like Rohini, etc. There are goodÂ things to learn from a few members rest of

them are sheer peddlers to say the least but they think they are some kind of

spiritual gurus.

> Â

> Jamini Bhusan Padhi

> 0091-9223349242 (M)

> 0091-22-24301190 ®

>

> ________________________________

> Dr. A. Bhatla <astrologytree

> vedic astrology

> Sat, January 9, 2010 11:37:04 AM

> [vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

>

> Â

> Respected Rohini Ji and all members,

>

> I have no intention to offend any of the member of the forum. But as this is a

public forum I think I should express myself honestly.

>

> Respected PVR Narasimha Rao Ji had a great vision when he started this group.

This is clearly reflected in the description of the group. Most of the members

understand the vision seen by him when he started this group. But I think I want

to write his vision in a simple language so that stupid people like me can

understand for what reason did he actually kept the foundation of this sacred

group. And all of us can respect his vision and stick to his intention behind

starting this group.

>

> Respected PVR Narasimha Rao ji wanted to establish a place where there is a

'hermitage' like atmoshphere for learning astrology. He wanted to make an

environment where non-corrupt information flow seamlessly and without any

selfish intention.

>

> For Senior Astrologers and students of astrology he wanted to make a place to

discuss the principles of Vedic astrology (Jyotish) in a hermitage-like

atmosphere where there is atmosphere of:

>

> devoted learning,

> Selfless sharing,

> courtesy and mutual respect,

> novices can freely ask very basic questions and get answers,

> where very advanced discussions are going on alongside.

>

> For seekers and " need help " members:

>

> he never wanted to make this group as " need help " and " astrology consultation "

group. This is clearly indicated in last few lines of the group descriptions.

And he didn't wanted to astrologers to answer any such query so that such

messages are not encouraged. This is also clearly indicated in this group

description' s last few lines.

>

> Again, I do not intend to hurt anybody, I think this group as a sacred place

for learning astrology especially for persons like me who do not have any able

guru nearby to learn from. And this was the intention of Respected PVR Narasimha

Rao Ji and the vision he saw.

>

> I request all the members of the group to respect his great vision and stick

to the guidelines stated by the Lord himself. Atleast this we can do to thank

him for his selfless service to Astrology.

>

> If you have Any comment/complaint/ suggestion for this mail and/or you want to

abuse me or any other similar thing, please send me a email at my private email

address. I may not notice any further message in this group in future.

>

> Please forgive me if I sound rude

>

> Kind regards

> Atul

>

January 15, 2010

Dear Rohini

What is this you are doing? You are making a joke out of someone's name.

His name is Jamini Bhusan Padhi. In Hindi it would be written à¤œà¤¾à¤®à¤¿à¤¨à¤¿

à¤à¥à¤·à¤£ à¤ªà¤¾à¤¢à¤¿ | jÄmini bhuá¹£aá¹‡a pÄá¸hi

Regards

Sanjay Rath

rohinicrystal

Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:43 AM

vedic astrology

[vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

I am sorry <nameless one!> that you felt crushed by my EGO :-)

Not sure how or where my bloat pressed you and CUT_OFF your circulation (neck

above!) but please share so that I can make amends or at least correct your

misconception! :-)

The 'etc.' who are unknown to me and to you too since you only named me (!) can

fend for themselves :-)

By the way, the right spelling should be JAiMINI PAtHI -- one who is on the path

shown by Jaimini Rishi! ;-)

Regards,

Rohiniranjan

vedic astrology , Jamini Padhi <jamini_padhi wrote:

>

> Dear Atul ji,

>

> Many members like Rohini, etc.Ã‚ have bloated egos. I have stopped posting

message or replying to any mail in this forum for the last 4 years due to people

like Rohini, etc. There are goodÃ‚ things to learn from a few members rest of

them are sheer peddlers to say the least but they think they are some kind of

spiritual gurus.

> Ã‚

> Jamini Bhusan Padhi

> 0091-9223349242 (M)

> 0091-22-24301190 ®

>

> ________________________________

> Dr. A. Bhatla <astrologytree

> vedic astrology

> Sat, January 9, 2010 11:37:04 AM

> [vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

>

> Ã‚

> Respected Rohini Ji and all members,

>

> I have no intention to offend any of the member of the forum. But as this is a

public forum I think I should express myself honestly.

>

> Respected PVR Narasimha Rao Ji had a great vision when he started this group.

This is clearly reflected in the description of the group. Most of the members

understand the vision seen by him when he started this group. But I think I want

to write his vision in a simple language so that stupid people like me can

understand for what reason did he actually kept the foundation of this sacred

group. And all of us can respect his vision and stick to his intention behind

starting this group.

>

> Respected PVR Narasimha Rao ji wanted to establish a place where there is a

'hermitage' like atmoshphere for learning astrology. He wanted to make an

environment where non-corrupt information flow seamlessly and without any

selfish intention.

>

> For Senior Astrologers and students of astrology he wanted to make a place to

discuss the principles of Vedic astrology (Jyotish) in a hermitage-like

atmosphere where there is atmosphere of:

>

> devoted learning,

> Selfless sharing,

> courtesy and mutual respect,

> novices can freely ask very basic questions and get answers,

> where very advanced discussions are going on alongside.

>

> For seekers and " need help " members:

>

> he never wanted to make this group as " need help " and " astrology consultation "

group. This is clearly indicated in last few lines of the group descriptions.

And he didn't wanted to astrologers to answer any such query so that such

messages are not encouraged. This is also clearly indicated in this group

description' s last few lines.

>

> Again, I do not intend to hurt anybody, I think this group as a sacred place

for learning astrology especially for persons like me who do not have any able

guru nearby to learn from. And this was the intention of Respected PVR Narasimha

Rao Ji and the vision he saw.

>

> I request all the members of the group to respect his great vision and stick

to the guidelines stated by the Lord himself. Atleast this we can do to thank

him for his selfless service to Astrology.

>

> If you have Any comment/complaint/ suggestion for this mail and/or you want to

abuse me or any other similar thing, please send me a email at my private email

address. I may not notice any further message in this group in future.

>

> Please forgive me if I sound rude

>

> Kind regards

> Atul

>

January 15, 2010

Dear Sanjay,

What is in a name?

How can one make a joke of 'something' that would change as soon as we die! All

of us?

Hindi is my mother-tongue, the very first language I learned -- but I have never

seen it written like I saw it in your angry post! That was not devnagri for

sure!

Why are you so upset? Let us all celebrate the eclipse! :-)

Ranjan

vedic astrology , " Sanjay Rath " <sjrath wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini

> What is this you are doing? You are making a joke out of someone's name.

> His name is Jamini Bhusan Padhi. In Hindi it would be written

à¤œà¤¾à¤®à¤¿à¤¨à¤¿ à¤à¥à¤·à¤£ à¤ªà¤¾à¤¢à¤¿ | jÄmini bhuá¹£aá¹‡a pÄá¸hi

> Regards

> Sanjay Rath

>

> rohinicrystal

> Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:43 AM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

>

> I am sorry <nameless one!> that you felt crushed by my EGO :-)

>

> Not sure how or where my bloat pressed you and CUT_OFF your circulation (neck

above!) but please share so that I can make amends or at least correct your

misconception! :-)

>

> The 'etc.' who are unknown to me and to you too since you only named me (!)

can fend for themselves :-)

>

> By the way, the right spelling should be JAiMINI PAtHI -- one who is on the

path shown by Jaimini Rishi! ;-)

>

> Regards,

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> vedic astrology , Jamini Padhi <jamini_padhi@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Atul ji,

> >

> > Many members like Rohini, etc.Ã‚ have bloated egos. I have stopped posting

message or replying to any mail in this forum for the last 4 years due to people

like Rohini, etc. There are goodÃ‚ things to learn from a few members rest of

them are sheer peddlers to say the least but they think they are some kind of

spiritual gurus.

> > Ã‚

> > Jamini Bhusan Padhi

> > 0091-9223349242 (M)

> > 0091-22-24301190 ®

> >

> > ________________________________

> > Dr. A. Bhatla <astrologytree@>

> > vedic astrology

> > Sat, January 9, 2010 11:37:04 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

> >

> > Ã‚

> > Respected Rohini Ji and all members,

> >

> > I have no intention to offend any of the member of the forum. But as this is

a public forum I think I should express myself honestly.

> >

> > Respected PVR Narasimha Rao Ji had a great vision when he started this

group. This is clearly reflected in the description of the group. Most of the

members understand the vision seen by him when he started this group. But I

think I want to write his vision in a simple language so that stupid people like

me can understand for what reason did he actually kept the foundation of this

sacred group. And all of us can respect his vision and stick to his intention

behind starting this group.

> >

> > Respected PVR Narasimha Rao ji wanted to establish a place where there is a

'hermitage' like atmoshphere for learning astrology. He wanted to make an

environment where non-corrupt information flow seamlessly and without any

selfish intention.

> >

> > For Senior Astrologers and students of astrology he wanted to make a place

to discuss the principles of Vedic astrology (Jyotish) in a hermitage-like

atmosphere where there is atmosphere of:

> >

> > devoted learning,

> > Selfless sharing,

> > courtesy and mutual respect,

> > novices can freely ask very basic questions and get answers,

> > where very advanced discussions are going on alongside.

> >

> > For seekers and " need help " members:

> >

> > he never wanted to make this group as " need help " and " astrology

consultation " group. This is clearly indicated in last few lines of the group

descriptions. And he didn't wanted to astrologers to answer any such query so

that such messages are not encouraged. This is also clearly indicated in this

group description' s last few lines.

> >

> > Again, I do not intend to hurt anybody, I think this group as a sacred place

for learning astrology especially for persons like me who do not have any able

guru nearby to learn from. And this was the intention of Respected PVR Narasimha

Rao Ji and the vision he saw.

> >

> > I request all the members of the group to respect his great vision and stick

to the guidelines stated by the Lord himself. Atleast this we can do to thank

him for his selfless service to Astrology.

> >

> > If you have Any comment/complaint/ suggestion for this mail and/or you want

to abuse me or any other similar thing, please send me a email at my private

email address. I may not notice any further message in this group in future.

> >

> > Please forgive me if I sound rude

> >

> > Kind regards

> > Atul

> >

January 15, 2010

Hi,

I have seen certain discussion threads becoming too " personal "

and certain responses clearly lack the etiquette of civility.

If this forum tends to become a " bazaar " for astrology ( with no

bars, like our politics), I would like to dissociate from this group.

No offense meant to anybody!

regards

Shri

>

>rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

>vedic astrology

>Fri, 15 January, 2010 9:18:17 PM

>[vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

>

> >

>>

>

>Dear Sanjay,

>

>>What is in a name?

>

>>How can one make a joke of 'something' that would change as soon as we die!

All of us?

>

>>Hindi is my mother-tongue, the very first language I learned -- but I have

never seen it written like I saw it in your angry post! That was not devnagri

for sure!

>

>>Why are you so upset? Let us all celebrate the eclipse! :-)

>

>>Ranjan

>

>>vedic astrology, " Sanjay Rath " <sjrath wrote:

>>>

>>> Dear Rohini

>>> What is this you are doing? You are making a joke out of someone's name.

>>> His name is Jamini Bhusan Padhi. In Hindi it would be written

à¤œà¤¾à¤®à¤¿à¤¨à¤¿ à¤à¥à¤·à¤£ à¤ªà¤¾à¤¢à¤¿ | jÄmini bhuá¹£aá¹‡a pÄá¸hi

>>> Regards

>>> Sanjay Rath

>>>

>>> rohinicrystal

>>> Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:43 AM

>>> vedic astrology

>>> [vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

>>>

>>> I am sorry <nameless one!> that you felt crushed by my EGO :-)

>>>

>>> Not sure how or where my bloat pressed you and CUT_OFF your circulation

(neck above!) but please share so that I can make amends or at least correct

your misconception! :-)

>>>

>>> The 'etc.' who are unknown to me and to you too since you only named me (!)

can fend for themselves :-)

>>>

>>> By the way, the right spelling should be JAiMINI PAtHI -- one who is on the

path shown by Jaimini Rishi! ;-)

>>>

>>> Regards,

>>>

>>> Rohiniranjan

>>>

>>> vedic astrology, Jamini Padhi <jamini_padhi@ >

wrote:

>>> >

>>> > Dear Atul ji,

>>> >

>>> > Many members like Rohini, etc.Ã‚ have bloated egos. I have stopped posting

message or replying to any mail in this forum for the last 4 years due to people

like Rohini, etc. There are goodÃ‚ things to learn from a few members rest of

them are sheer peddlers to say the least but they think they are some kind of

spiritual gurus.

>>> > Ã‚

>>> > Jamini Bhusan Padhi

>>> > 0091-9223349242 (M)

>>> > 0091-22-24301190 ®

>>> >

>>> > ____________ _________ _________ __

>>> > Dr. A. Bhatla <astrologytree@ >

>>> > vedic astrology

>>> > Sat, January 9, 2010 11:37:04 AM

>>> > [vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

>>> >

>>> > Ã‚

>>> > Respected Rohini Ji and all members,

>>> >

>>> > I have no intention to offend any of the member of the forum. But as this

is a public forum I think I should express myself honestly.

>>> >

>>> > Respected PVR Narasimha Rao Ji had a great vision when he started this

group. This is clearly reflected in the description of the group. Most of the

members understand the vision seen by him when he started this group. But I

think I want to write his vision in a simple language so that stupid people like

me can understand for what reason did he actually kept the foundation of this

sacred group. And all of us can respect his vision and stick to his intention

behind starting this group.

>>> >

>>> > Respected PVR Narasimha Rao ji wanted to establish a place where there is

a 'hermitage' like atmoshphere for learning astrology. He wanted to make an

environment where non-corrupt information flow seamlessly and without any

selfish intention.

>>> >

>>> > For Senior Astrologers and students of astrology he wanted to make a place

to discuss the principles of Vedic astrology (Jyotish) in a hermitage-like

atmosphere where there is atmosphere of:

>>> >

>>> > devoted learning,

>>> > Selfless sharing,

>>> > courtesy and mutual respect,

>>> > novices can freely ask very basic questions and get answers,

>>> > where very advanced discussions are going on alongside.

>>> >

>>> > For seekers and " need help " members:

>>> >

>>> > he never wanted to make this group as " need help " and " astrology

consultation " group. This is clearly indicated in last few lines of the group

descriptions. And he didn't wanted to astrologers to answer any such query so

that such messages are not encouraged. This is also clearly indicated in this

group description' s last few lines.

>>> >

>>> > Again, I do not intend to hurt anybody, I think this group as a sacred

place for learning astrology especially for persons like me who do not have any

able guru nearby to learn from. And this was the intention of Respected PVR

Narasimha Rao Ji and the vision he saw.

>>> >

>>> > I request all the members of the group to respect his great vision and

stick to the guidelines stated by the Lord himself. Atleast this we can do to

thank him for his selfless service to Astrology.

>>> >

>>> > If you have Any comment/complaint/ suggestion for this mail and/or you

want to abuse me or any other similar thing, please send me a email at my

private email address. I may not notice any further message in this group in

future.

>>> >

>>> > Please forgive me if I sound rude

>>> >

>>> > Kind regards

>>> > Atul

>>> >

January 15, 2010

Please lead by example how you would like this or any other forum to be! Show

us!!

Thanks!

Rohiniranjan

vedic astrology , krishna joshi <snjoshy wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> I have seen certain discussion threads becoming too " personal "

> and certain responses clearly lack the etiquette of civility.

>

> If this forum tends to become a " bazaar " for astrology ( with no

> bars, like our politics), I would like to dissociate from this group.

>

> No offense meant to anybody!

>

> regards

> Shri

>

> >

> >rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

> >vedic astrology

> >Fri, 15 January, 2010 9:18:17 PM

> >[vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

> >

> > >

> >>

> >

> >Dear Sanjay,

> >

> >>What is in a name?

> >

> >>How can one make a joke of 'something' that would change as soon as we die!

All of us?

> >

> >>Hindi is my mother-tongue, the very first language I learned -- but I have

never seen it written like I saw it in your angry post! That was not devnagri

for sure!

> >

> >>Why are you so upset? Let us all celebrate the eclipse! :-)

> >

> >>Ranjan

> >

> >>vedic astrology, " Sanjay Rath " <sjrath@> wrote:

> >>>

> >>> Dear Rohini

> >>> What is this you are doing? You are making a joke out of someone's name.

> >>> His name is Jamini Bhusan Padhi. In Hindi it would be written

à¤œà¤¾à¤®à¤¿à¤¨à¤¿ à¤à¥à¤·à¤£ à¤ªà¤¾à¤¢à¤¿ | jÄmini bhuá¹£aá¹‡a pÄá¸hi

> >>> Regards

> >>> Sanjay Rath

> >>>

> >>> rohinicrystal

> >>> Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:43 AM

> >>> vedic astrology

> >>> [vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

> >>>

> >>> I am sorry <nameless one!> that you felt crushed by my EGO :-)

> >>>

> >>> Not sure how or where my bloat pressed you and CUT_OFF your circulation

(neck above!) but please share so that I can make amends or at least correct

your misconception! :-)

> >>>

> >>> The 'etc.' who are unknown to me and to you too since you only named me

(!) can fend for themselves :-)

> >>>

> >>> By the way, the right spelling should be JAiMINI PAtHI -- one who is on

the path shown by Jaimini Rishi! ;-)

> >>>

> >>> Regards,

> >>>

> >>> Rohiniranjan

> >>>

> >>> vedic astrology, Jamini Padhi <jamini_padhi@ >

wrote:

> >>> >

> >>> > Dear Atul ji,

> >>> >

> >>> > Many members like Rohini, etc.Ã‚ have bloated egos. I have stopped

posting message or replying to any mail in this forum for the last 4 years due

to people like Rohini, etc. There are goodÃ‚ things to learn from a few members

rest of them are sheer peddlers to say the least but they think they are some

kind of spiritual gurus.

> >>> > Ã‚

> >>> > Jamini Bhusan Padhi

> >>> > 0091-9223349242 (M)

> >>> > 0091-22-24301190 ®

> >>> >

> >>> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> >>> > Dr. A. Bhatla <astrologytree@ >

> >>> > vedic astrology

> >>> > Sat, January 9, 2010 11:37:04 AM

> >>> > [vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

> >>> >

> >>> > Ã‚

> >>> > Respected Rohini Ji and all members,

> >>> >

> >>> > I have no intention to offend any of the member of the forum. But as

this is a public forum I think I should express myself honestly.

> >>> >

> >>> > Respected PVR Narasimha Rao Ji had a great vision when he started this

group. This is clearly reflected in the description of the group. Most of the

members understand the vision seen by him when he started this group. But I

think I want to write his vision in a simple language so that stupid people like

me can understand for what reason did he actually kept the foundation of this

sacred group. And all of us can respect his vision and stick to his intention

behind starting this group.

> >>> >

> >>> > Respected PVR Narasimha Rao ji wanted to establish a place where there

is a 'hermitage' like atmoshphere for learning astrology. He wanted to make an

environment where non-corrupt information flow seamlessly and without any

selfish intention.

> >>> >

> >>> > For Senior Astrologers and students of astrology he wanted to make a

place to discuss the principles of Vedic astrology (Jyotish) in a hermitage-like

atmosphere where there is atmosphere of:

> >>> >

> >>> > devoted learning,

> >>> > Selfless sharing,

> >>> > courtesy and mutual respect,

> >>> > novices can freely ask very basic questions and get answers,

> >>> > where very advanced discussions are going on alongside.

> >>> >

> >>> > For seekers and " need help " members:

> >>> >

> >>> > he never wanted to make this group as " need help " and " astrology

consultation " group. This is clearly indicated in last few lines of the group

descriptions. And he didn't wanted to astrologers to answer any such query so

that such messages are not encouraged. This is also clearly indicated in this

group description' s last few lines.

> >>> >

> >>> > Again, I do not intend to hurt anybody, I think this group as a sacred

place for learning astrology especially for persons like me who do not have any

able guru nearby to learn from. And this was the intention of Respected PVR

Narasimha Rao Ji and the vision he saw.

> >>> >

> >>> > I request all the members of the group to respect his great vision and

stick to the guidelines stated by the Lord himself. Atleast this we can do to

thank him for his selfless service to Astrology.

> >>> >

> >>> > If you have Any comment/complaint/ suggestion for this mail and/or you

want to abuse me or any other similar thing, please send me a email at my

private email address. I may not notice any further message in this group in

future.

> >>> >

> >>> > Please forgive me if I sound rude

> >>> >

> >>> > Kind regards

> >>> > Atul

> >>> >

January 16, 2010

Dear Shrikrishna Ji,

Let me try to clear some thing! V-A is a " Group " , which can also be

termed as Assembly of people , where astrologers and advice seekers join

hands. It cannot in any way be called a Bazaar or Assembly of people

prohibited under some section of the IPC.There are no invitations or

advertisements for joining this group. No elections are held for this

Group to become Ministers, because it is not formed under any

constitution , thus there is no limit of maximum seats. There are no

farewell or welcome speeches.

There ought to be few leg pulling in such a large group, where no one

has to announce one's Arrival & Departure. There ought to be few tit

bits and rising of temperature, genuine or not so genuine , here and

there, between any one. This can happen in any

group/team/gathering/field.

But, the beauty is having no C.E.O here. The astrologers , people having

inclination and interest in astrology and also people who seek free

astrology advice are the people who at any given time, form this Group.

The group has grown in strength despite some skirmishes, leg pulling,

sarcastic comments, criticism etc now and then, right from inception.

When I am typing this , the last Message No. is 118087 (More than one

Lac). Perhaps very few people must have read even all the messages.

Despite all this, the Group is moving ahead in the spread of Vedic

Astrology. I have also observed that a number of people have termed few

discussions to the extreme extent of Heinous Crimes. Other labels like

; lack of democracy, un-democratic, lack of manners, lack of good sense,

lack of etiquettes uncivilised also appear. The are not abnormal traits

in all of us, which raise their head from time to time and we all do

learn a lot by way of self-analysis, and few of us do have such

inclinations ,I believe .

As far as my knowledge goes, no Astrologer in this group has appeared on

the TV shows on Jyotish, for showing their faces to their families and

friends,in order to get some kind of fame, and most of them becoming a

laughing stock and blot on the Astrology ( with rare exceptions, few

learned Gurus/Teachers of Astology have also come). I hope that some

members of this group from India would have also watched the live drama

between Jyotishis,other people, on a channel, for a long time, on the

occasion of Surya Grahan.

How many astrologers who have been writing in this Group ; are doing so

for sake of money or to show their faces and body parts ? To a greater

extent, it can be genuinely termed as selfless service, starting from

the great teachers who have set up such groups and have shared their

deep knowledge openly, without any reservation with all and sundry. Are

you aware that most of the times, astrologers do not even get a simple

" Thank You " for their advice, but they go on. And the Group is

growing in it's esteem. Dear Shrikrishna Ji, , Groups are like the

proverbial ` Kajal Ki Kothri' and we know that " Kitna Jati

ho koi, Kitna sati ho koi, Kamini Ka kaam bhai Jage hi jage, Kajal ki

kothri main kaiso hi jatan karo, kajal ka daag bhai lage hi lage re bhai

kajal ka daag bhai lage hi lage " ; and yet all of us like to enter

this kothri and go out WITH a blot ! Some karma or destiny here !

Raj Bhardwaj

vedic astrology , krishna joshi <snjoshy

wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> I have seen certain discussion threads becoming too " personal "

> and certain responses clearly lack the etiquette of civility.

>

> If this forum tends to become a " bazaar " for astrology ( with no

> bars, like our politics), I would like to dissociate from this group.

>

> No offense meant to anybody!

>

> regards

> Shri

>

> >

> >rohinicrystal jyotish_vani

> >vedic astrology

> >Fri, 15 January, 2010 9:18:17 PM

> >[vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

> >

> > >

> >>

> >

> >Dear Sanjay,

> >

> >>What is in a name?

> >

> >>How can one make a joke of 'something' that would change as soon as

we die! All of us?

> >

> >>Hindi is my mother-tongue, the very first language I learned -- but

I have never seen it written like I saw it in your angry post! That was

not devnagri for sure!

> >

> >>Why are you so upset? Let us all celebrate the eclipse! :-)

> >

> >>Ranjan

> >

> >>vedic astrology, " Sanjay Rath " sjrath@

wrote:

> >>>

> >>> Dear Rohini

> >>> What is this you are doing? You are making a joke out of someone's

name.

> >>> His name is Jamini Bhusan Padhi. In Hindi it would be written

à¤œà¤¾à¤®à¤¿à¤¨à¤¿ à¤à¥à¤·à¤£ à¤ªà¤¾à¤¢à¤¿ |

jÄmini bhuá¹£aá¹‡a pÄá¸hi

> >>> Regards

> >>> Sanjay Rath

> >>>

> >>> rohinicrystal

> >>> Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:43 AM

> >>> vedic astrology

> >>> [vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

> >>>

> >>> I am sorry <nameless one!> that you felt crushed by my EGO :-)

> >>>

> >>> Not sure how or where my bloat pressed you and CUT_OFF your

circulation (neck above!) but please share so that I can make amends or

at least correct your misconception! :-)

> >>>

> >>> The 'etc.' who are unknown to me and to you too since you only

named me (!) can fend for themselves :-)

> >>>

> >>> By the way, the right spelling should be JAiMINI PAtHI -- one who

is on the path shown by Jaimini Rishi! ;-)

> >>>

> >>> Regards,

> >>>

> >>> Rohiniranjan

> >>>

> >>> vedic astrology, Jamini Padhi

<jamini_padhi@ > wrote:

> >>> >

> >>> > Dear Atul ji,

> >>> >

> >>> > Many members like Rohini, etc.Ã‚ have bloated egos. I have

stopped posting message or replying to any mail in this forum for the

last 4 years due to people like Rohini, etc. There are goodÃ‚ things

to learn from a few members rest of them are sheer peddlers to say the

least but they think they are some kind of spiritual gurus.

> >>> > Ã‚

> >>> > Jamini Bhusan Padhi

> >>> > 0091-9223349242 (M)

> >>> > 0091-22-24301190 ®

> >>> >

> >>> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> >>> > Dr. A. Bhatla <astrologytree@ >

> >>> > vedic astrology

> >>> > Sat, January 9, 2010 11:37:04 AM

> >>> > [vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

> >>> >

> >>> > Ã‚

> >>> > Respected Rohini Ji and all members,

> >>> >

> >>> > I have no intention to offend any of the member of the forum.

But as this is a public forum I think I should express myself honestly.

> >>> >

> >>> > Respected PVR Narasimha Rao Ji had a great vision when he

started this group. This is clearly reflected in the description of the

group. Most of the members understand the vision seen by him when he

started this group. But I think I want to write his vision in a simple

language so that stupid people like me can understand for what reason

did he actually kept the foundation of this sacred group. And all of us

can respect his vision and stick to his intention behind starting this

group.

> >>> >

> >>> > Respected PVR Narasimha Rao ji wanted to establish a place where

there is a 'hermitage' like atmoshphere for learning astrology. He

wanted to make an environment where non-corrupt information flow

seamlessly and without any selfish intention.

> >>> >

> >>> > For Senior Astrologers and students of astrology he wanted to

make a place to discuss the principles of Vedic astrology (Jyotish) in a

hermitage-like atmosphere where there is atmosphere of:

> >>> >

> >>> > devoted learning,

> >>> > Selfless sharing,

> >>> > courtesy and mutual respect,

> >>> > novices can freely ask very basic questions and get answers,

> >>> > where very advanced discussions are going on alongside.

> >>> >

> >>> > For seekers and " need help " members:

> >>> >

> >>> > he never wanted to make this group as " need help " and " astrology

consultation " group. This is clearly indicated in last few lines of the

group descriptions. And he didn't wanted to astrologers to answer any

such query so that such messages are not encouraged. This is also

clearly indicated in this group description' s last few lines.

> >>> >

> >>> > Again, I do not intend to hurt anybody, I think this group as a

sacred place for learning astrology especially for persons like me who

do not have any able guru nearby to learn from. And this was the

intention of Respected PVR Narasimha Rao Ji and the vision he saw.

> >>> >

> >>> > I request all the members of the group to respect his great

vision and stick to the guidelines stated by the Lord himself. Atleast

this we can do to thank him for his selfless service to Astrology.

> >>> >

> >>> > If you have Any comment/complaint/ suggestion for this mail

and/or you want to abuse me or any other similar thing, please send me a

email at my private email address. I may not notice any further message

in this group in future.

> >>> >

> >>> > Please forgive me if I sound rude

> >>> >

> >>> > Kind regards

> >>> > Atul

> >>> >

January 16, 2010

Dear Raj ji,

I agree with some of your points, but of late I have seen

too many exchanges on " personal " basis. That's why

I said , it is tending to be a bazaar, which has no moderation

or self-control. Pls. note that I am indicating a symptom; it has

not yet become a disease.

I feel, the rate at which the personal tirades are exchanged,

the noble cause for which this group started may get obliterated.

I definitely opt for moderation here - if it is not out of the

individual's

self-control , the moderator has to force it. If anybody thinks that nicety

is

weakness, I beg to differ..

regards

Shri

>

>Raj <rajbhardwaj1949

>vedic astrology

>Sat, 16 January, 2010 2:38:03 AM

>[vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

>

> >

>>

>

>>Dear Shrikrishna Ji,

>

>>Let me try to clear some thing! V-A is a " Group " , which can also be

>>termed as Assembly of people , where astrologers and advice seekers join

>>hands. It cannot in any way be called a Bazaar or Assembly of people

>>prohibited under some section of the IPC.There are no invitations or

>>advertisements for joining this group. No elections are held for this

>>Group to become Ministers, because it is not formed under any

>>constitution , thus there is no limit of maximum seats. There are no

>>farewell or welcome speeches.

>

>>There ought to be few leg pulling in such a large group, where no one

>>has to announce one's Arrival & Departure. There ought to be few tit

>>bits and rising of temperature, genuine or not so genuine , here and

>>there, between any one. This can happen in any

>>group/team/gatherin g/field.

>

>>But, the beauty is having no C.E.O here. The astrologers , people having

>>inclination and interest in astrology and also people who seek free

>>astrology advice are the people who at any given time, form this Group.

>>The group has grown in strength despite some skirmishes, leg pulling,

>>sarcastic comments, criticism etc now and then, right from inception.

>>When I am typing this , the last Message No. is 118087 (More than one

>>Lac). Perhaps very few people must have read even all the messages.

>>Despite all this, the Group is moving ahead in the spread of Vedic

>>Astrology. I have also observed that a number of people have termed few

>>discussions to the extreme extent of Heinous Crimes. Other labels like

>>; lack of democracy, un-democratic, lack of manners, lack of good sense,

>>lack of etiquettes uncivilised also appear. The are not abnormal traits

>>in all of us, which raise their head from time to time and we all do

>>learn a lot by way of self-analysis, and few of us do have such

>>inclinations ,I believe .

>

>>As far as my knowledge goes, no Astrologer in this group has appeared on

>>the TV shows on Jyotish, for showing their faces to their families and

>>friends,in order to get some kind of fame, and most of them becoming a

>>laughing stock and blot on the Astrology ( with rare exceptions, few

>>learned Gurus/Teachers of Astology have also come). I hope that some

>>members of this group from India would have also watched the live drama

>>between Jyotishis,other people, on a channel, for a long time, on the

>>occasion of Surya Grahan.

>

>>How many astrologers who have been writing in this Group ; are doing so

>>for sake of money or to show their faces and body parts ? To a greater

>>extent, it can be genuinely termed as selfless service, starting from

>>the great teachers who have set up such groups and have shared their

>>deep knowledge openly, without any reservation with all and sundry. Are

>>you aware that most of the times, astrologers do not even get a simple

>> " Thank You " for their advice, but they go on. And the Group is

>>growing in it's esteem. Dear Shrikrishna Ji, , Groups are like the

>>proverbial ` Kajal Ki Kothri' and we know that " Kitna Jati

>>ho koi, Kitna sati ho koi, Kamini Ka kaam bhai Jage hi jage, Kajal ki

>>kothri main kaiso hi jatan karo, kajal ka daag bhai lage hi lage re bhai

>>kajal ka daag bhai lage hi lage " ; and yet all of us like to enter

>>this kothri and go out WITH a blot ! Some karma or destiny here !

>

>>Raj Bhardwaj

>

>>vedic astrology, krishna joshi <snjoshy >

>>wrote:

>>>

>>> Hi,

>>>

>>> I have seen certain discussion threads becoming too " personal "

>>> and certain responses clearly lack the etiquette of civility.

>>>

>>> If this forum tends to become a " bazaar " for astrology ( with no

>>> bars, like our politics), I would like to dissociate from this group.

>>>

>>> No offense meant to anybody!

>>>

>>> regards

>>> Shri

>>>

>>> >

>>> >rohinicrystal jyotish_vani@ ...

>>> >vedic astrology

>>> >Fri, 15 January, 2010 9:18:17 PM

>>> >[vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

>>> >

>>> > >

>>> >>

>>> >

>>> >Dear Sanjay,

>>> >

>>> >>What is in a name?

>>> >

>>> >>How can one make a joke of 'something' that would change as soon as

>>we die! All of us?

>>> >

>>> >>Hindi is my mother-tongue, the very first language I learned -- but

>>I have never seen it written like I saw it in your angry post! That was

>>not devnagri for sure!

>>> >

>>> >>Why are you so upset? Let us all celebrate the eclipse! :-)

>>> >

>>> >>Ranjan

>>> >

>>> >>vedic astrology, " Sanjay Rath " sjrath@

>>wrote:

>>> >>>

>>> >>> Dear Rohini

>>> >>> What is this you are doing? You are making a joke out of someone's

>>name.

>>> >>> His name is Jamini Bhusan Padhi. In Hindi it would be written

>>à¤œà¤¾à¤®à¤¿à¤¨à¤¿ à¤à¥à¤·à¤£ à¤ªà¤¾à¤¢à¤¿ |

>>jÄmini bhuá¹£aá¹‡a pÄá¸hi

>>> >>> Regards

>>> >>> Sanjay Rath

>>> >>>

>>> >>> rohinicrystal

>>> >>> Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:43 AM

>>> >>> vedic astrology

>>> >>> [vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

>>> >>>

>>> >>> I am sorry <nameless one!> that you felt crushed by my EGO :-)

>>> >>>

>>> >>> Not sure how or where my bloat pressed you and CUT_OFF your

>>circulation (neck above!) but please share so that I can make amends or

>>at least correct your misconception! :-)

>>> >>>

>>> >>> The 'etc.' who are unknown to me and to you too since you only

>>named me (!) can fend for themselves :-)

>>> >>>

>>> >>> By the way, the right spelling should be JAiMINI PAtHI -- one who

>>is on the path shown by Jaimini Rishi! ;-)

>>> >>>

>>> >>> Regards,

>>> >>>

>>> >>> Rohiniranjan

>>> >>>

>>> >>> vedic astrology, Jamini Padhi

>><jamini_padhi@ > wrote:

>>> >>> >

>>> >>> > Dear Atul ji,

>>> >>> >

>>> >>> > Many members like Rohini, etc.Ã‚ have bloated egos. I have

>>stopped posting message or replying to any mail in this forum for the

>>last 4 years due to people like Rohini, etc. There are goodÃ‚ things

>>to learn from a few members rest of them are sheer peddlers to say the

>>least but they think they are some kind of spiritual gurus.

>>> >>> > Ã‚

>>> >>> > Jamini Bhusan Padhi

>>> >>> > 0091-9223349242 (M)

>>> >>> > 0091-22-24301190 ®

>>> >>> >

>>> >>> > ____________ _________ _________ __

>>> >>> > Dr. A. Bhatla <astrologytree@ >

>>> >>> > vedic astrology

>>> >>> > Sat, January 9, 2010 11:37:04 AM

>>> >>> > [vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

>>> >>> >

>>> >>> > Ã‚

>>> >>> > Respected Rohini Ji and all members,

>>> >>> >

>>> >>> > I have no intention to offend any of the member of the forum.

>>But as this is a public forum I think I should express myself honestly.

>>> >>> >

>>> >>> > Respected PVR Narasimha Rao Ji had a great vision when he

>>started this group. This is clearly reflected in the description of the

>>group. Most of the members understand the vision seen by him when he

>>started this group. But I think I want to write his vision in a simple

>>language so that stupid people like me can understand for what reason

>>did he actually kept the foundation of this sacred group. And all of us

>>can respect his vision and stick to his intention behind starting this

>>group.

>>> >>> >

>>> >>> > Respected PVR Narasimha Rao ji wanted to establish a place where

>>there is a 'hermitage' like atmoshphere for learning astrology. He

>>wanted to make an environment where non-corrupt information flow

>>seamlessly and without any selfish intention.

>>> >>> >

>>> >>> > For Senior Astrologers and students of astrology he wanted to

>>make a place to discuss the principles of Vedic astrology (Jyotish) in a

>>hermitage-like atmosphere where there is atmosphere of:

>>> >>> >

>>> >>> > devoted learning,

>>> >>> > Selfless sharing,

>>> >>> > courtesy and mutual respect,

>>> >>> > novices can freely ask very basic questions and get answers,

>>> >>> > where very advanced discussions are going on alongside.

>>> >>> >

>>> >>> > For seekers and " need help " members:

>>> >>> >

>>> >>> > he never wanted to make this group as " need help " and " astrology

>>consultation " group. This is clearly indicated in last few lines of the

>>group descriptions. And he didn't wanted to astrologers to answer any

>>such query so that such messages are not encouraged. This is also

>>clearly indicated in this group description' s last few lines.

>>> >>> >

>>> >>> > Again, I do not intend to hurt anybody, I think this group as a

>>sacred place for learning astrology especially for persons like me who

>>do not have any able guru nearby to learn from. And this was the

>>intention of Respected PVR Narasimha Rao Ji and the vision he saw.

>>> >>> >

>>> >>> > I request all the members of the group to respect his great

>>vision and stick to the guidelines stated by the Lord himself. Atleast

>>this we can do to thank him for his selfless service to Astrology.

>>> >>> >

>>> >>> > If you have Any comment/complaint/ suggestion for this mail

>>and/or you want to abuse me or any other similar thing, please send me a

>>email at my private email address. I may not notice any further message

>>in this group in future.

>>> >>> >

>>> >>> > Please forgive me if I sound rude

>>> >>> >

>>> >>> > Kind regards

>>> >>> > Atul

>>> >>> >

January 16, 2010

Dear Shrikrishna Ji,

May be I have not been able to convey the spirit underlying in my mail. Thanks

for your prediction about the group. You have left me with no choice except to

repeat what Rohini Ji had written, I repeat below :-

" Please lead by example how you would like this or any other forum to be! Show

us!!

Raj Bhardwaj

vedic astrology , krishna joshi <snjoshy wrote:

>

> Dear Raj ji,

>

> I agree with some of your points, but of late I have seen

> too many exchanges on " personal " basis. That's why

> I said , it is tending to be a bazaar, which has no moderation

> or self-control. Pls. note that I am indicating a symptom; it has

> not yet become a disease.

>

> I feel, the rate at which the personal tirades are exchanged,

> the noble cause for which this group started may get obliterated.

>

> I definitely opt for moderation here - if it is not out of the

individual's

> self-control , the moderator has to force it. If anybody thinks that

nicety is

> weakness, I beg to differ..

>

> regards

> Shri

>

> >

> >Raj <rajbhardwaj1949

> >vedic astrology

> >Sat, 16 January, 2010 2:38:03 AM

> >[vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

> >

> > >

> >>

> >

> >>Dear Shrikrishna Ji,

> >

> >>Let me try to clear some thing! V-A is a " Group " , which can also be

> >>termed as Assembly of people , where astrologers and advice seekers join

> >>hands. It cannot in any way be called a Bazaar or Assembly of people

> >>prohibited under some section of the IPC.There are no invitations or

> >>advertisements for joining this group. No elections are held for this

> >>Group to become Ministers, because it is not formed under any

> >>constitution , thus there is no limit of maximum seats. There are no

> >>farewell or welcome speeches.

> >

> >>There ought to be few leg pulling in such a large group, where no one

> >>has to announce one's Arrival & Departure. There ought to be few tit

> >>bits and rising of temperature, genuine or not so genuine , here and

> >>there, between any one. This can happen in any

> >>group/team/gatherin g/field.

> >

> >>But, the beauty is having no C.E.O here. The astrologers , people having

> >>inclination and interest in astrology and also people who seek free

> >>astrology advice are the people who at any given time, form this Group.

> >>The group has grown in strength despite some skirmishes, leg pulling,

> >>sarcastic comments, criticism etc now and then, right from inception.

> >>When I am typing this , the last Message No. is 118087 (More than one

> >>Lac). Perhaps very few people must have read even all the messages.

> >>Despite all this, the Group is moving ahead in the spread of Vedic

> >>Astrology. I have also observed that a number of people have termed few

> >>discussions to the extreme extent of Heinous Crimes. Other labels like

> >>; lack of democracy, un-democratic, lack of manners, lack of good sense,

> >>lack of etiquettes uncivilised also appear. The are not abnormal traits

> >>in all of us, which raise their head from time to time and we all do

> >>learn a lot by way of self-analysis, and few of us do have such

> >>inclinations ,I believe .

> >

> >>As far as my knowledge goes, no Astrologer in this group has appeared on

> >>the TV shows on Jyotish, for showing their faces to their families and

> >>friends,in order to get some kind of fame, and most of them becoming a

> >>laughing stock and blot on the Astrology ( with rare exceptions, few

> >>learned Gurus/Teachers of Astology have also come). I hope that some

> >>members of this group from India would have also watched the live drama

> >>between Jyotishis,other people, on a channel, for a long time, on the

> >>occasion of Surya Grahan.

> >

> >>How many astrologers who have been writing in this Group ; are doing so

> >>for sake of money or to show their faces and body parts ? To a greater

> >>extent, it can be genuinely termed as selfless service, starting from

> >>the great teachers who have set up such groups and have shared their

> >>deep knowledge openly, without any reservation with all and sundry. Are

> >>you aware that most of the times, astrologers do not even get a simple

> >> " Thank You " for their advice, but they go on. And the Group is

> >>growing in it's esteem. Dear Shrikrishna Ji, , Groups are like the

> >>proverbial ` Kajal Ki Kothri' and we know that " Kitna Jati

> >>ho koi, Kitna sati ho koi, Kamini Ka kaam bhai Jage hi jage, Kajal ki

> >>kothri main kaiso hi jatan karo, kajal ka daag bhai lage hi lage re bhai

> >>kajal ka daag bhai lage hi lage " ; and yet all of us like to enter

> >>this kothri and go out WITH a blot ! Some karma or destiny here !

> >

> >>Raj Bhardwaj

> >

> >>vedic astrology, krishna joshi <snjoshy@ >

> >>wrote:

> >>>

> >>> Hi,

> >>>

> >>> I have seen certain discussion threads becoming too " personal "

> >>> and certain responses clearly lack the etiquette of civility.

> >>>

> >>> If this forum tends to become a " bazaar " for astrology ( with no

> >>> bars, like our politics), I would like to dissociate from this group.

> >>>

> >>> No offense meant to anybody!

> >>>

> >>> regards

> >>> Shri

> >>>

> >>> >

> >>> >rohinicrystal jyotish_vani@ ...

> >>> >vedic astrology

> >>> >Fri, 15 January, 2010 9:18:17 PM

> >>> >[vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

> >>> >

> >>> > >

> >>> >>

> >>> >

> >>> >Dear Sanjay,

> >>> >

> >>> >>What is in a name?

> >>> >

> >>> >>How can one make a joke of 'something' that would change as soon as

> >>we die! All of us?

> >>> >

> >>> >>Hindi is my mother-tongue, the very first language I learned -- but

> >>I have never seen it written like I saw it in your angry post! That was

> >>not devnagri for sure!

> >>> >

> >>> >>Why are you so upset? Let us all celebrate the eclipse! :-)

> >>> >

> >>> >>Ranjan

> >>> >

> >>> >>vedic astrology, " Sanjay Rath " sjrath@

> >>wrote:

> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> Dear Rohini

> >>> >>> What is this you are doing? You are making a joke out of someone's

> >>name.

> >>> >>> His name is Jamini Bhusan Padhi. In Hindi it would be written

> >>à¤œà¤¾à¤®à¤¿à¤¨à¤¿ à¤à¥à¤·à¤£ à¤ªà¤¾à¤¢à¤¿ |

> >>jÄmini bhuá¹£aá¹‡a pÄá¸hi

> >>> >>> Regards

> >>> >>> Sanjay Rath

> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> rohinicrystal

> >>> >>> Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:43 AM

> >>> >>> vedic astrology

> >>> >>> [vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> I am sorry <nameless one!> that you felt crushed by my EGO :-)

> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> Not sure how or where my bloat pressed you and CUT_OFF your

> >>circulation (neck above!) but please share so that I can make amends or

> >>at least correct your misconception! :-)

> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> The 'etc.' who are unknown to me and to you too since you only

> >>named me (!) can fend for themselves :-)

> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> By the way, the right spelling should be JAiMINI PAtHI -- one who

> >>is on the path shown by Jaimini Rishi! ;-)

> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> Regards,

> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> Rohiniranjan

> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> vedic astrology, Jamini Padhi

> >><jamini_padhi@ > wrote:

> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> > Dear Atul ji,

> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> > Many members like Rohini, etc.Ã‚ have bloated egos. I have

> >>stopped posting message or replying to any mail in this forum for the

> >>last 4 years due to people like Rohini, etc. There are goodÃ‚ things

> >>to learn from a few members rest of them are sheer peddlers to say the

> >>least but they think they are some kind of spiritual gurus.

> >>> >>> > Ã‚

> >>> >>> > Jamini Bhusan Padhi

> >>> >>> > 0091-9223349242 (M)

> >>> >>> > 0091-22-24301190 ®

> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> >>> >>> > Dr. A. Bhatla <astrologytree@ >

> >>> >>> > vedic astrology

> >>> >>> > Sat, January 9, 2010 11:37:04 AM

> >>> >>> > [vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> > Ã‚

> >>> >>> > Respected Rohini Ji and all members,

> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> > I have no intention to offend any of the member of the forum.

> >>But as this is a public forum I think I should express myself honestly.

> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> > Respected PVR Narasimha Rao Ji had a great vision when he

> >>started this group. This is clearly reflected in the description of the

> >>group. Most of the members understand the vision seen by him when he

> >>started this group. But I think I want to write his vision in a simple

> >>language so that stupid people like me can understand for what reason

> >>did he actually kept the foundation of this sacred group. And all of us

> >>can respect his vision and stick to his intention behind starting this

> >>group.

> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> > Respected PVR Narasimha Rao ji wanted to establish a place where

> >>there is a 'hermitage' like atmoshphere for learning astrology. He

> >>wanted to make an environment where non-corrupt information flow

> >>seamlessly and without any selfish intention.

> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> > For Senior Astrologers and students of astrology he wanted to

> >>make a place to discuss the principles of Vedic astrology (Jyotish) in a

> >>hermitage-like atmosphere where there is atmosphere of:

> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> > devoted learning,

> >>> >>> > Selfless sharing,

> >>> >>> > courtesy and mutual respect,

> >>> >>> > novices can freely ask very basic questions and get answers,

> >>> >>> > where very advanced discussions are going on alongside.

> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> > For seekers and " need help " members:

> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> > he never wanted to make this group as " need help " and " astrology

> >>consultation " group. This is clearly indicated in last few lines of the

> >>group descriptions. And he didn't wanted to astrologers to answer any

> >>such query so that such messages are not encouraged. This is also

> >>clearly indicated in this group description' s last few lines.

> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> > Again, I do not intend to hurt anybody, I think this group as a

> >>sacred place for learning astrology especially for persons like me who

> >>do not have any able guru nearby to learn from. And this was the

> >>intention of Respected PVR Narasimha Rao Ji and the vision he saw.

> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> > I request all the members of the group to respect his great

> >>vision and stick to the guidelines stated by the Lord himself. Atleast

> >>this we can do to thank him for his selfless service to Astrology.

> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> > If you have Any comment/complaint/ suggestion for this mail

> >>and/or you want to abuse me or any other similar thing, please send me a

> >>email at my private email address. I may not notice any further message

> >>in this group in future.

> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> > Please forgive me if I sound rude

> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> > Kind regards

> >>> >>> > Atul

> >>> >>> >

January 16, 2010

Dear Raj ji,

A similar thread in another group, was forcibly stopped by moderator,

deleting some really annoying mails. This may sound too harsh ( we

practice democracy too strongly, especially in verbal exchanges!) but

to maintain the decorum it was necessary.

In the above case , the group ( except a few , who eagerly wait for others

to fight) really felt relieved after the message went from moderator about

the

group's purpose, dos and donts to members and all the " special " messages

were deleted from the thread.

If the end product of any discussion is the sour feeling between individuals

and

no learning for anybody, it is better to cut that thread at the start.

I leave it to the moderator of this group to decide on it.

regards

Shri

>

>Raj <rajbhardwaj1949

>vedic astrology

>Sat, 16 January, 2010 4:04:39 AM

>[vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

>

> >

>>

>

>>Dear Shrikrishna Ji,

>>May be I have not been able to convey the spirit underlying in my mail. Thanks

for your prediction about the group. You have left me with no choice except to

repeat what Rohini Ji had written, I repeat below :-

>

>> " Please lead by example how you would like this or any other forum to be! Show

us!!

>

>>Raj Bhardwaj

>

>>vedic astrology, krishna joshi <snjoshy > wrote:

>>>

>>> Dear Raj ji,

>>>

>>> I agree with some of your points, but of late I have seen

>>> too many exchanges on " personal " basis. That's why

>>> I said , it is tending to be a bazaar, which has no moderation

>>> or self-control. Pls. note that I am indicating a symptom; it has

>>> not yet become a disease.

>>>

>>> I feel, the rate at which the personal tirades are exchanged,

>>> the noble cause for which this group started may get obliterated.

>>>

>>> I definitely opt for moderation here - if it is not out of the

individual's

>>> self-control , the moderator has to force it. If anybody thinks that

nicety is

>>> weakness, I beg to differ..

>>>

>>> regards

>>> Shri

>>>

>>> >

>>> >Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...>

>>> >vedic astrology

>>> >Sat, 16 January, 2010 2:38:03 AM

>>> >[vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

>>> >

>>> > >

>>> >>

>>> >

>>> >>Dear Shrikrishna Ji,

>>> >

>>> >>Let me try to clear some thing! V-A is a " Group " , which can also be

>>> >>termed as Assembly of people , where astrologers and advice seekers join

>>> >>hands. It cannot in any way be called a Bazaar or Assembly of people

>>> >>prohibited under some section of the IPC.There are no invitations or

>>> >>advertisements for joining this group. No elections are held for this

>>> >>Group to become Ministers, because it is not formed under any

>>> >>constitution , thus there is no limit of maximum seats. There are no

>>> >>farewell or welcome speeches.

>>> >

>>> >>There ought to be few leg pulling in such a large group, where no one

>>> >>has to announce one's Arrival & Departure. There ought to be few tit

>>> >>bits and rising of temperature, genuine or not so genuine , here and

>>> >>there, between any one. This can happen in any

>>> >>group/team/ gatherin g/field.

>>> >

>>> >>But, the beauty is having no C.E.O here. The astrologers , people having

>>> >>inclination and interest in astrology and also people who seek free

>>> >>astrology advice are the people who at any given time, form this Group.

>>> >>The group has grown in strength despite some skirmishes, leg pulling,

>>> >>sarcastic comments, criticism etc now and then, right from inception.

>>> >>When I am typing this , the last Message No. is 118087 (More than one

>>> >>Lac). Perhaps very few people must have read even all the messages.

>>> >>Despite all this, the Group is moving ahead in the spread of Vedic

>>> >>Astrology. I have also observed that a number of people have termed few

>>> >>discussions to the extreme extent of Heinous Crimes. Other labels like

>>> >>; lack of democracy, un-democratic, lack of manners, lack of good sense,

>>> >>lack of etiquettes uncivilised also appear. The are not abnormal traits

>>> >>in all of us, which raise their head from time to time and we all do

>>> >>learn a lot by way of self-analysis, and few of us do have such

>>> >>inclinations ,I believe .

>>> >

>>> >>As far as my knowledge goes, no Astrologer in this group has appeared on

>>> >>the TV shows on Jyotish, for showing their faces to their families and

>>> >>friends,in order to get some kind of fame, and most of them becoming a

>>> >>laughing stock and blot on the Astrology ( with rare exceptions, few

>>> >>learned Gurus/Teachers of Astology have also come). I hope that some

>>> >>members of this group from India would have also watched the live drama

>>> >>between Jyotishis,other people, on a channel, for a long time, on the

>>> >>occasion of Surya Grahan.

>>> >

>>> >>How many astrologers who have been writing in this Group ; are doing so

>>> >>for sake of money or to show their faces and body parts ? To a greater

>>> >>extent, it can be genuinely termed as selfless service, starting from

>>> >>the great teachers who have set up such groups and have shared their

>>> >>deep knowledge openly, without any reservation with all and sundry. Are

>>> >>you aware that most of the times, astrologers do not even get a simple

>>> >> " Thank You " for their advice, but they go on. And the Group is

>>> >>growing in it's esteem. Dear Shrikrishna Ji, , Groups are like the

>>> >>proverbial ` Kajal Ki Kothri' and we know that " Kitna Jati

>>> >>ho koi, Kitna sati ho koi, Kamini Ka kaam bhai Jage hi jage, Kajal ki

>>> >>kothri main kaiso hi jatan karo, kajal ka daag bhai lage hi lage re bhai

>>> >>kajal ka daag bhai lage hi lage " ; and yet all of us like to enter

>>> >>this kothri and go out WITH a blot ! Some karma or destiny here !

>>> >

>>> >>Raj Bhardwaj

>>> >

>>> >>vedic astrology, krishna joshi <snjoshy@ >

>>> >>wrote:

>>> >>>

>>> >>> Hi,

>>> >>>

>>> >>> I have seen certain discussion threads becoming too " personal "

>>> >>> and certain responses clearly lack the etiquette of civility.

>>> >>>

>>> >>> If this forum tends to become a " bazaar " for astrology ( with no

>>> >>> bars, like our politics), I would like to dissociate from this group.

>>> >>>

>>> >>> No offense meant to anybody!

>>> >>>

>>> >>> regards

>>> >>> Shri

>>> >>>

>>> >>> >

>>> >>> >rohinicrystal jyotish_vani@ ...

>>> >>> >vedic astrology

>>> >>> >Fri, 15 January, 2010 9:18:17 PM

>>> >>> >[vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

>>> >>> >

>>> >>> > >

>>> >>> >>

>>> >>> >

>>> >>> >Dear Sanjay,

>>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>What is in a name?

>>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>How can one make a joke of 'something' that would change as soon as

>>> >>we die! All of us?

>>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>Hindi is my mother-tongue, the very first language I learned -- but

>>> >>I have never seen it written like I saw it in your angry post! That was

>>> >>not devnagri for sure!

>>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>Why are you so upset? Let us all celebrate the eclipse! :-)

>>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>Ranjan

>>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>vedic astrology, " Sanjay Rath " sjrath@

>>> >>wrote:

>>> >>> >>>

>>> >>> >>> Dear Rohini

>>> >>> >>> What is this you are doing? You are making a joke out of someone's

>>> >>name.

>>> >>> >>> His name is Jamini Bhusan Padhi. In Hindi it would be written

>>> >>jÄmini bhuá¹£aá¹‡a pÄá¸hi

>>> >>> >>> Regards

>>> >>> >>> Sanjay Rath

>>> >>> >>>

>>> >>> >>> rohinicrystal

>>> >>> >>> Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:43 AM

>>> >>> >>> vedic astrology

>>> >>> >>> [vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

>>> >>> >>>

>>> >>> >>> I am sorry <nameless one!> that you felt crushed by my EGO :-)

>>> >>> >>>

>>> >>> >>> Not sure how or where my bloat pressed you and CUT_OFF your

>>> >>circulation (neck above!) but please share so that I can make amends or

>>> >>at least correct your misconception! :-)

>>> >>> >>>

>>> >>> >>> The 'etc.' who are unknown to me and to you too since you only

>>> >>named me (!) can fend for themselves :-)

>>> >>> >>>

>>> >>> >>> By the way, the right spelling should be JAiMINI PAtHI -- one who

>>> >>is on the path shown by Jaimini Rishi! ;-)

>>> >>> >>>

>>> >>> >>> Regards,

>>> >>> >>>

>>> >>> >>> Rohiniranjan

>>> >>> >>>

>>> >>> >>> vedic astrology, Jamini Padhi

>>> >><jamini_padhi@ > wrote:

>>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> > Dear Atul ji,

>>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> > Many members like Rohini, etc.Ã‚ have bloated egos. I have

>>> >>stopped posting message or replying to any mail in this forum for the

>>> >>last 4 years due to people like Rohini, etc. There are goodÃ‚ things

>>> >>to learn from a few members rest of them are sheer peddlers to say the

>>> >>least but they think they are some kind of spiritual gurus.

>>> >>> >>> > Ã‚

>>> >>> >>> > Jamini Bhusan Padhi

>>> >>> >>> > 0091-9223349242 (M)

>>> >>> >>> > 0091-22-24301190 ®

>>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> > ____________ _________ _________ __

>>> >>> >>> > Dr. A. Bhatla <astrologytree@ >

>>> >>> >>> > vedic astrology

>>> >>> >>> > Sat, January 9, 2010 11:37:04 AM

>>> >>> >>> > [vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

>>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> > Ã‚

>>> >>> >>> > Respected Rohini Ji and all members,

>>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> > I have no intention to offend any of the member of the forum.

>>> >>But as this is a public forum I think I should express myself honestly.

>>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> > Respected PVR Narasimha Rao Ji had a great vision when he

>>> >>started this group. This is clearly reflected in the description of the

>>> >>group. Most of the members understand the vision seen by him when he

>>> >>started this group. But I think I want to write his vision in a simple

>>> >>language so that stupid people like me can understand for what reason

>>> >>did he actually kept the foundation of this sacred group. And all of us

>>> >>can respect his vision and stick to his intention behind starting this

>>> >>group.

>>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> > Respected PVR Narasimha Rao ji wanted to establish a place where

>>> >>there is a 'hermitage' like atmoshphere for learning astrology. He

>>> >>wanted to make an environment where non-corrupt information flow

>>> >>seamlessly and without any selfish intention.

>>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> > For Senior Astrologers and students of astrology he wanted to

>>> >>make a place to discuss the principles of Vedic astrology (Jyotish) in a

>>> >>hermitage- like atmosphere where there is atmosphere of:

>>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> > devoted learning,

>>> >>> >>> > Selfless sharing,

>>> >>> >>> > courtesy and mutual respect,

>>> >>> >>> > novices can freely ask very basic questions and get answers,

>>> >>> >>> > where very advanced discussions are going on alongside.

>>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> > For seekers and " need help " members:

>>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> > he never wanted to make this group as " need help " and " astrology

>>> >>consultation " group. This is clearly indicated in last few lines of the

>>> >>group descriptions. And he didn't wanted to astrologers to answer any

>>> >>such query so that such messages are not encouraged. This is also

>>> >>clearly indicated in this group description' s last few lines.

>>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> > Again, I do not intend to hurt anybody, I think this group as a

>>> >>sacred place for learning astrology especially for persons like me who

>>> >>do not have any able guru nearby to learn from. And this was the

>>> >>intention of Respected PVR Narasimha Rao Ji and the vision he saw.

>>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> > I request all the members of the group to respect his great

>>> >>vision and stick to the guidelines stated by the Lord himself. Atleast

>>> >>this we can do to thank him for his selfless service to Astrology.

>>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> > If you have Any comment/complaint/ suggestion for this mail

>>> >>and/or you want to abuse me or any other similar thing, please send me a

>>> >>email at my private email address. I may not notice any further message

>>> >>in this group in future.

>>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> > Please forgive me if I sound rude

>>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> > Kind regards

>>> >>> >>> > Atul

>>> >>> >>> >

January 16, 2010

Dear Shrikrishna Ji,

Thanks for your teachings.So be it ! I did not know such things before,because

no one taught me!

Raj Bhardwaj

vedic astrology , krishna joshi <snjoshy wrote:

>

> Dear Raj ji,

>

> A similar thread in another group, was forcibly stopped by moderator,

> deleting some really annoying mails. This may sound too harsh ( we

> practice democracy too strongly, especially in verbal exchanges!) but

> to maintain the decorum it was necessary.

>

> In the above case , the group ( except a few , who eagerly wait for others

> to fight) really felt relieved after the message went from moderator about

the

> group's purpose, dos and donts to members and all the " special " messages

> were deleted from the thread.

>

> If the end product of any discussion is the sour feeling between

individuals and

> no learning for anybody, it is better to cut that thread at the start.

>

> I leave it to the moderator of this group to decide on it.

>

> regards

> Shri

>

> >

> >Raj <rajbhardwaj1949

> >vedic astrology

> >Sat, 16 January, 2010 4:04:39 AM

> >[vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

> >

> > >

> >>

> >

> >>Dear Shrikrishna Ji,

> >>May be I have not been able to convey the spirit underlying in my mail.

Thanks for your prediction about the group. You have left me with no choice

except to repeat what Rohini Ji had written, I repeat below :-

> >

> >> " Please lead by example how you would like this or any other forum to be!

Show us!!

> >

> >>Raj Bhardwaj

> >

> >>vedic astrology, krishna joshi <snjoshy@ > wrote:

> >>>

> >>> Dear Raj ji,

> >>>

> >>> I agree with some of your points, but of late I have seen

> >>> too many exchanges on " personal " basis. That's why

> >>> I said , it is tending to be a bazaar, which has no moderation

> >>> or self-control. Pls. note that I am indicating a symptom; it has

> >>> not yet become a disease.

> >>>

> >>> I feel, the rate at which the personal tirades are exchanged,

> >>> the noble cause for which this group started may get obliterated.

> >>>

> >>> I definitely opt for moderation here - if it is not out of the

individual's

> >>> self-control , the moderator has to force it. If anybody thinks that

nicety is

> >>> weakness, I beg to differ..

> >>>

> >>> regards

> >>> Shri

> >>>

> >>> >

> >>> >Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...>

> >>> >vedic astrology

> >>> >Sat, 16 January, 2010 2:38:03 AM

> >>> >[vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

> >>> >

> >>> > >

> >>> >>

> >>> >

> >>> >>Dear Shrikrishna Ji,

> >>> >

> >>> >>Let me try to clear some thing! V-A is a " Group " , which can also be

> >>> >>termed as Assembly of people , where astrologers and advice seekers join

> >>> >>hands. It cannot in any way be called a Bazaar or Assembly of people

> >>> >>prohibited under some section of the IPC.There are no invitations or

> >>> >>advertisements for joining this group. No elections are held for this

> >>> >>Group to become Ministers, because it is not formed under any

> >>> >>constitution , thus there is no limit of maximum seats. There are no

> >>> >>farewell or welcome speeches.

> >>> >

> >>> >>There ought to be few leg pulling in such a large group, where no one

> >>> >>has to announce one's Arrival & Departure. There ought to be few tit

> >>> >>bits and rising of temperature, genuine or not so genuine , here and

> >>> >>there, between any one. This can happen in any

> >>> >>group/team/ gatherin g/field.

> >>> >

> >>> >>But, the beauty is having no C.E.O here. The astrologers , people having

> >>> >>inclination and interest in astrology and also people who seek free

> >>> >>astrology advice are the people who at any given time, form this Group.

> >>> >>The group has grown in strength despite some skirmishes, leg pulling,

> >>> >>sarcastic comments, criticism etc now and then, right from inception.

> >>> >>When I am typing this , the last Message No. is 118087 (More than one

> >>> >>Lac). Perhaps very few people must have read even all the messages.

> >>> >>Despite all this, the Group is moving ahead in the spread of Vedic

> >>> >>Astrology. I have also observed that a number of people have termed few

> >>> >>discussions to the extreme extent of Heinous Crimes. Other labels like

> >>> >>; lack of democracy, un-democratic, lack of manners, lack of good sense,

> >>> >>lack of etiquettes uncivilised also appear. The are not abnormal traits

> >>> >>in all of us, which raise their head from time to time and we all do

> >>> >>learn a lot by way of self-analysis, and few of us do have such

> >>> >>inclinations ,I believe .

> >>> >

> >>> >>As far as my knowledge goes, no Astrologer in this group has appeared on

> >>> >>the TV shows on Jyotish, for showing their faces to their families and

> >>> >>friends,in order to get some kind of fame, and most of them becoming a

> >>> >>laughing stock and blot on the Astrology ( with rare exceptions, few

> >>> >>learned Gurus/Teachers of Astology have also come). I hope that some

> >>> >>members of this group from India would have also watched the live drama

> >>> >>between Jyotishis,other people, on a channel, for a long time, on the

> >>> >>occasion of Surya Grahan.

> >>> >

> >>> >>How many astrologers who have been writing in this Group ; are doing so

> >>> >>for sake of money or to show their faces and body parts ? To a greater

> >>> >>extent, it can be genuinely termed as selfless service, starting from

> >>> >>the great teachers who have set up such groups and have shared their

> >>> >>deep knowledge openly, without any reservation with all and sundry. Are

> >>> >>you aware that most of the times, astrologers do not even get a simple

> >>> >> " Thank You " for their advice, but they go on. And the Group is

> >>> >>growing in it's esteem. Dear Shrikrishna Ji, , Groups are like the

> >>> >>proverbial ` Kajal Ki Kothri' and we know that " Kitna Jati

> >>> >>ho koi, Kitna sati ho koi, Kamini Ka kaam bhai Jage hi jage, Kajal ki

> >>> >>kothri main kaiso hi jatan karo, kajal ka daag bhai lage hi lage re bhai

> >>> >>kajal ka daag bhai lage hi lage " ; and yet all of us like to enter

> >>> >>this kothri and go out WITH a blot ! Some karma or destiny here !

> >>> >

> >>> >>Raj Bhardwaj

> >>> >

> >>> >>vedic astrology, krishna joshi <snjoshy@ >

> >>> >>wrote:

> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> Hi,

> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> I have seen certain discussion threads becoming too " personal "

> >>> >>> and certain responses clearly lack the etiquette of civility.

> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> If this forum tends to become a " bazaar " for astrology ( with no

> >>> >>> bars, like our politics), I would like to dissociate from this group.

> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> No offense meant to anybody!

> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> regards

> >>> >>> Shri

> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >rohinicrystal jyotish_vani@ ...

> >>> >>> >vedic astrology

> >>> >>> >Fri, 15 January, 2010 9:18:17 PM

> >>> >>> >[vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> > >

> >>> >>> >>

> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >Dear Sanjay,

> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>What is in a name?

> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>How can one make a joke of 'something' that would change as soon as

> >>> >>we die! All of us?

> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>Hindi is my mother-tongue, the very first language I learned -- but

> >>> >>I have never seen it written like I saw it in your angry post! That was

> >>> >>not devnagri for sure!

> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>Why are you so upset? Let us all celebrate the eclipse! :-)

> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>Ranjan

> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>vedic astrology, " Sanjay Rath " sjrath@

> >>> >>wrote:

> >>> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> >>> Dear Rohini

> >>> >>> >>> What is this you are doing? You are making a joke out of someone's

> >>> >>name.

> >>> >>> >>> His name is Jamini Bhusan Padhi. In Hindi it would be written

> >>> >>jÄmini bhuá¹£aá¹‡a pÄá¸hi

> >>> >>> >>> Regards

> >>> >>> >>> Sanjay Rath

> >>> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> >>> rohinicrystal

> >>> >>> >>> Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:43 AM

> >>> >>> >>> vedic astrology

> >>> >>> >>> [vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

> >>> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> >>> I am sorry <nameless one!> that you felt crushed by my EGO :-)

> >>> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> >>> Not sure how or where my bloat pressed you and CUT_OFF your

> >>> >>circulation (neck above!) but please share so that I can make amends or

> >>> >>at least correct your misconception! :-)

> >>> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> >>> The 'etc.' who are unknown to me and to you too since you only

> >>> >>named me (!) can fend for themselves :-)

> >>> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> >>> By the way, the right spelling should be JAiMINI PAtHI -- one who

> >>> >>is on the path shown by Jaimini Rishi! ;-)

> >>> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> >>> Regards,

> >>> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> >>> Rohiniranjan

> >>> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> >>> vedic astrology, Jamini Padhi

> >>> >><jamini_padhi@ > wrote:

> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> > Dear Atul ji,

> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> > Many members like Rohini, etc.Ã‚ have bloated egos. I have

> >>> >>stopped posting message or replying to any mail in this forum for the

> >>> >>last 4 years due to people like Rohini, etc. There are goodÃ‚ things

> >>> >>to learn from a few members rest of them are sheer peddlers to say the

> >>> >>least but they think they are some kind of spiritual gurus.

> >>> >>> >>> > Ã‚

> >>> >>> >>> > Jamini Bhusan Padhi

> >>> >>> >>> > 0091-9223349242 (M)

> >>> >>> >>> > 0091-22-24301190 ®

> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> >>> >>> >>> > Dr. A. Bhatla <astrologytree@ >

> >>> >>> >>> > vedic astrology

> >>> >>> >>> > Sat, January 9, 2010 11:37:04 AM

> >>> >>> >>> > [vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> > Ã‚

> >>> >>> >>> > Respected Rohini Ji and all members,

> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> > I have no intention to offend any of the member of the forum.

> >>> >>But as this is a public forum I think I should express myself honestly.

> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> > Respected PVR Narasimha Rao Ji had a great vision when he

> >>> >>started this group. This is clearly reflected in the description of the

> >>> >>group. Most of the members understand the vision seen by him when he

> >>> >>started this group. But I think I want to write his vision in a simple

> >>> >>language so that stupid people like me can understand for what reason

> >>> >>did he actually kept the foundation of this sacred group. And all of us

> >>> >>can respect his vision and stick to his intention behind starting this

> >>> >>group.

> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> > Respected PVR Narasimha Rao ji wanted to establish a place where

> >>> >>there is a 'hermitage' like atmoshphere for learning astrology. He

> >>> >>wanted to make an environment where non-corrupt information flow

> >>> >>seamlessly and without any selfish intention.

> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> > For Senior Astrologers and students of astrology he wanted to

> >>> >>make a place to discuss the principles of Vedic astrology (Jyotish) in a

> >>> >>hermitage- like atmosphere where there is atmosphere of:

> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> > devoted learning,

> >>> >>> >>> > Selfless sharing,

> >>> >>> >>> > courtesy and mutual respect,

> >>> >>> >>> > novices can freely ask very basic questions and get answers,

> >>> >>> >>> > where very advanced discussions are going on alongside.

> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> > For seekers and " need help " members:

> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> > he never wanted to make this group as " need help " and " astrology

> >>> >>consultation " group. This is clearly indicated in last few lines of the

> >>> >>group descriptions. And he didn't wanted to astrologers to answer any

> >>> >>such query so that such messages are not encouraged. This is also

> >>> >>clearly indicated in this group description' s last few lines.

> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> > Again, I do not intend to hurt anybody, I think this group as a

> >>> >>sacred place for learning astrology especially for persons like me who

> >>> >>do not have any able guru nearby to learn from. And this was the

> >>> >>intention of Respected PVR Narasimha Rao Ji and the vision he saw.

> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> > I request all the members of the group to respect his great

> >>> >>vision and stick to the guidelines stated by the Lord himself. Atleast

> >>> >>this we can do to thank him for his selfless service to Astrology.

> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> > If you have Any comment/complaint/ suggestion for this mail

> >>> >>and/or you want to abuse me or any other similar thing, please send me a

> >>> >>email at my private email address. I may not notice any further message

> >>> >>in this group in future.

> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> > Please forgive me if I sound rude

> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> > Kind regards

> >>> >>> >>> > Atul

> >>> >>> >>> >

January 16, 2010

Dear Raj ji,

I believe, before we become members of a , teaches

us this! So this class is from .

Shri

>

>Raj <rajbhardwaj1949

>vedic astrology

>Sat, 16 January, 2010 8:44:04 AM

>[vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

>

> >

>>

>

>Dear Shrikrishna Ji,

>>Thanks for your teachings.So be it ! I did not know such things before,because

no one taught me!

>

>>Raj Bhardwaj

>

>>vedic astrology, krishna joshi <snjoshy > wrote:

>>>

>>> Dear Raj ji,

>>>

>>> A similar thread in another group, was forcibly stopped by moderator,

>>> deleting some really annoying mails. This may sound too harsh ( we

>>> practice democracy too strongly, especially in verbal exchanges!) but

>>> to maintain the decorum it was necessary.

>>>

>>> In the above case , the group ( except a few , who eagerly wait for

others

>>> to fight) really felt relieved after the message went from moderator

about the

>>> group's purpose, dos and donts to members and all the " special " messages

>>> were deleted from the thread.

>>>

>>> If the end product of any discussion is the sour feeling between

individuals and

>>> no learning for anybody, it is better to cut that thread at the start.

>>>

>>> I leave it to the moderator of this group to decide on it.

>>>

>>> regards

>>> Shri

>>>

>>> >

>>> >Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...>

>>> >vedic astrology

>>> >Sat, 16 January, 2010 4:04:39 AM

>>> >[vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

>>> >

>>> > >

>>> >>

>>> >

>>> >>Dear Shrikrishna Ji,

>>> >>May be I have not been able to convey the spirit underlying in my mail.

Thanks for your prediction about the group. You have left me with no choice

except to repeat what Rohini Ji had written, I repeat below :-

>>> >

>>> >> " Please lead by example how you would like this or any other forum to be!

Show us!!

>>> >

>>> >>Raj Bhardwaj

>>> >

>>> >>vedic astrology, krishna joshi <snjoshy@ > wrote:

>>> >>>

>>> >>> Dear Raj ji,

>>> >>>

>>> >>> I agree with some of your points, but of late I have seen

>>> >>> too many exchanges on " personal " basis. That's why

>>> >>> I said , it is tending to be a bazaar, which has no moderation

>>> >>> or self-control. Pls. note that I am indicating a symptom; it has

>>> >>> not yet become a disease.

>>> >>>

>>> >>> I feel, the rate at which the personal tirades are exchanged,

>>> >>> the noble cause for which this group started may get obliterated.

>>> >>>

>>> >>> I definitely opt for moderation here - if it is not out of the

individual's

>>> >>> self-control , the moderator has to force it. If anybody thinks

that nicety is

>>> >>> weakness, I beg to differ..

>>> >>>

>>> >>> regards

>>> >>> Shri

>>> >>>

>>> >>> >

>>> >>> >Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...>

>>> >>> >vedic astrology

>>> >>> >Sat, 16 January, 2010 2:38:03 AM

>>> >>> >[vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

>>> >>> >

>>> >>> > >

>>> >>> >>

>>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>Dear Shrikrishna Ji,

>>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>Let me try to clear some thing! V-A is a " Group " , which can also be

>>> >>> >>termed as Assembly of people , where astrologers and advice seekers

join

>>> >>> >>hands. It cannot in any way be called a Bazaar or Assembly of people

>>> >>> >>prohibited under some section of the IPC.There are no invitations or

>>> >>> >>advertisements for joining this group. No elections are held for

this

>>> >>> >>Group to become Ministers, because it is not formed under any

>>> >>> >>constitution , thus there is no limit of maximum seats. There are no

>>> >>> >>farewell or welcome speeches.

>>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>There ought to be few leg pulling in such a large group, where no one

>>> >>> >>has to announce one's Arrival & Departure. There ought to be few tit

>>> >>> >>bits and rising of temperature, genuine or not so genuine , here and

>>> >>> >>there, between any one. This can happen in any

>>> >>> >>group/team/ gatherin g/field.

>>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>But, the beauty is having no C.E.O here. The astrologers , people

having

>>> >>> >>inclination and interest in astrology and also people who seek free

>>> >>> >>astrology advice are the people who at any given time, form this

Group.

>>> >>> >>The group has grown in strength despite some skirmishes, leg pulling,

>>> >>> >>sarcastic comments, criticism etc now and then, right from inception.

>>> >>> >>When I am typing this , the last Message No. is 118087 (More than one

>>> >>> >>Lac). Perhaps very few people must have read even all the messages.

>>> >>> >>Despite all this, the Group is moving ahead in the spread of Vedic

>>> >>> >>Astrology. I have also observed that a number of people have termed

few

>>> >>> >>discussions to the extreme extent of Heinous Crimes. Other labels

like

>>> >>> >>; lack of democracy, un-democratic, lack of manners, lack of good

sense,

>>> >>> >>lack of etiquettes uncivilised also appear. The are not abnormal

traits

>>> >>> >>in all of us, which raise their head from time to time and we all do

>>> >>> >>learn a lot by way of self-analysis, and few of us do have such

>>> >>> >>inclinations ,I believe .

>>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>As far as my knowledge goes, no Astrologer in this group has appeared

on

>>> >>> >>the TV shows on Jyotish, for showing their faces to their families

and

>>> >>> >>friends,in order to get some kind of fame, and most of them becoming

a

>>> >>> >>laughing stock and blot on the Astrology ( with rare exceptions, few

>>> >>> >>learned Gurus/Teachers of Astology have also come). I hope that some

>>> >>> >>members of this group from India would have also watched the live

drama

>>> >>> >>between Jyotishis,other people, on a channel, for a long time, on the

>>> >>> >>occasion of Surya Grahan.

>>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>How many astrologers who have been writing in this Group ; are doing

so

>>> >>> >>for sake of money or to show their faces and body parts ? To a greater

>>> >>> >>extent, it can be genuinely termed as selfless service, starting from

>>> >>> >>the great teachers who have set up such groups and have shared their

>>> >>> >>deep knowledge openly, without any reservation with all and sundry.

Are

>>> >>> >>you aware that most of the times, astrologers do not even get a simple

>>> >>> >> " Thank You " for their advice, but they go on. And the Group is

>>> >>> >>growing in it's esteem. Dear Shrikrishna Ji, , Groups are like the

>>> >>> >>proverbial ` Kajal Ki Kothri' and we know that " Kitna Jati

>>> >>> >>ho koi, Kitna sati ho koi, Kamini Ka kaam bhai Jage hi jage, Kajal ki

>>> >>> >>kothri main kaiso hi jatan karo, kajal ka daag bhai lage hi lage re

bhai

>>> >>> >>kajal ka daag bhai lage hi lage " ; and yet all of us like to enter

>>> >>> >>this kothri and go out WITH a blot ! Some karma or destiny here !

>>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>Raj Bhardwaj

>>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>vedic astrology, krishna joshi <snjoshy@ >

>>> >>> >>wrote:

>>> >>> >>>

>>> >>> >>> Hi,

>>> >>> >>>

>>> >>> >>> I have seen certain discussion threads becoming too " personal "

>>> >>> >>> and certain responses clearly lack the etiquette of civility.

>>> >>> >>>

>>> >>> >>> If this forum tends to become a " bazaar " for astrology ( with no

>>> >>> >>> bars, like our politics), I would like to dissociate from this

group.

>>> >>> >>>

>>> >>> >>> No offense meant to anybody!

>>> >>> >>>

>>> >>> >>> regards

>>> >>> >>> Shri

>>> >>> >>>

>>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> >rohinicrystal jyotish_vani@ ...

>>> >>> >>> >vedic astrology

>>> >>> >>> >Fri, 15 January, 2010 9:18:17 PM

>>> >>> >>> >[vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

>>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> > >

>>> >>> >>> >>

>>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> >Dear Sanjay,

>>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> >>What is in a name?

>>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> >>How can one make a joke of 'something' that would change as soon

as

>>> >>> >>we die! All of us?

>>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> >>Hindi is my mother-tongue, the very first language I learned --

but

>>> >>> >>I have never seen it written like I saw it in your angry post! That

was

>>> >>> >>not devnagri for sure!

>>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> >>Why are you so upset? Let us all celebrate the eclipse! :-)

>>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> >>Ranjan

>>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> >>vedic astrology, " Sanjay Rath " sjrath@

>>> >>> >>wrote:

>>> >>> >>> >>>

>>> >>> >>> >>> Dear Rohini

>>> >>> >>> >>> What is this you are doing? You are making a joke out of

someone's

>>> >>> >>name.

>>> >>> >>> >>> His name is Jamini Bhusan Padhi. In Hindi it would be written

>>> >>> >>jÄmini bhuá¹£aá¹‡a pÄá¸hi

>>> >>> >>> >>> Regards

>>> >>> >>> >>> Sanjay Rath

>>> >>> >>> >>>

>>> >>> >>> >>> rohinicrystal

>>> >>> >>> >>> Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:43 AM

>>> >>> >>> >>> vedic astrology

>>> >>> >>> >>> [vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

>>> >>> >>> >>>

>>> >>> >>> >>> I am sorry <nameless one!> that you felt crushed by my EGO :-)

>>> >>> >>> >>>

>>> >>> >>> >>> Not sure how or where my bloat pressed you and CUT_OFF your

>>> >>> >>circulation (neck above!) but please share so that I can make amends

or

>>> >>> >>at least correct your misconception! :-)

>>> >>> >>> >>>

>>> >>> >>> >>> The 'etc.' who are unknown to me and to you too since you only

>>> >>> >>named me (!) can fend for themselves :-)

>>> >>> >>> >>>

>>> >>> >>> >>> By the way, the right spelling should be JAiMINI PAtHI -- one

who

>>> >>> >>is on the path shown by Jaimini Rishi! ;-)

>>> >>> >>> >>>

>>> >>> >>> >>> Regards,

>>> >>> >>> >>>

>>> >>> >>> >>> Rohiniranjan

>>> >>> >>> >>>

>>> >>> >>> >>> vedic astrology, Jamini Padhi

>>> >>> >><jamini_padhi@ > wrote:

>>> >>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> >>> > Dear Atul ji,

>>> >>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> >>> > Many members like Rohini, etc.Ã‚ have bloated egos. I have

>>> >>> >>stopped posting message or replying to any mail in this forum for the

>>> >>> >>last 4 years due to people like Rohini, etc. There are goodÃ‚ things

>>> >>> >>to learn from a few members rest of them are sheer peddlers to say the

>>> >>> >>least but they think they are some kind of spiritual gurus.

>>> >>> >>> >>> > Ã‚

>>> >>> >>> >>> > Jamini Bhusan Padhi

>>> >>> >>> >>> > 0091-9223349242 (M)

>>> >>> >>> >>> > 0091-22-24301190 ®

>>> >>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> >>> > ____________ _________ _________ __

>>> >>> >>> >>> > Dr. A. Bhatla <astrologytree@ >

>>> >>> >>> >>> > vedic astrology

>>> >>> >>> >>> > Sat, January 9, 2010 11:37:04 AM

>>> >>> >>> >>> > [vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

>>> >>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> >>> > Ã‚

>>> >>> >>> >>> > Respected Rohini Ji and all members,

>>> >>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> >>> > I have no intention to offend any of the member of the forum.

>>> >>> >>But as this is a public forum I think I should express myself

honestly.

>>> >>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> >>> > Respected PVR Narasimha Rao Ji had a great vision when he

>>> >>> >>started this group. This is clearly reflected in the description of

the

>>> >>> >>group. Most of the members understand the vision seen by him when he

>>> >>> >>started this group. But I think I want to write his vision in a simple

>>> >>> >>language so that stupid people like me can understand for what reason

>>> >>> >>did he actually kept the foundation of this sacred group. And all of

us

>>> >>> >>can respect his vision and stick to his intention behind starting this

>>> >>> >>group.

>>> >>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> >>> > Respected PVR Narasimha Rao ji wanted to establish a place

where

>>> >>> >>there is a 'hermitage' like atmoshphere for learning astrology. He

>>> >>> >>wanted to make an environment where non-corrupt information flow

>>> >>> >>seamlessly and without any selfish intention.

>>> >>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> >>> > For Senior Astrologers and students of astrology he wanted to

>>> >>> >>make a place to discuss the principles of Vedic astrology (Jyotish) in

a

>>> >>> >>hermitage- like atmosphere where there is atmosphere of:

>>> >>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> >>> > devoted learning,

>>> >>> >>> >>> > Selfless sharing,

>>> >>> >>> >>> > courtesy and mutual respect,

>>> >>> >>> >>> > novices can freely ask very basic questions and get answers,

>>> >>> >>> >>> > where very advanced discussions are going on alongside.

>>> >>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> >>> > For seekers and " need help " members:

>>> >>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> >>> > he never wanted to make this group as " need help " and

" astrology

>>> >>> >>consultation " group. This is clearly indicated in last few lines of

the

>>> >>> >>group descriptions. And he didn't wanted to astrologers to answer any

>>> >>> >>such query so that such messages are not encouraged. This is also

>>> >>> >>clearly indicated in this group description' s last few lines.

>>> >>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> >>> > Again, I do not intend to hurt anybody, I think this group as

a

>>> >>> >>sacred place for learning astrology especially for persons like me who

>>> >>> >>do not have any able guru nearby to learn from. And this was the

>>> >>> >>intention of Respected PVR Narasimha Rao Ji and the vision he saw.

>>> >>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> >>> > I request all the members of the group to respect his great

>>> >>> >>vision and stick to the guidelines stated by the Lord himself. Atleast

>>> >>> >>this we can do to thank him for his selfless service to Astrology.

>>> >>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> >>> > If you have Any comment/complaint/ suggestion for this mail

>>> >>> >>and/or you want to abuse me or any other similar thing, please send me

a

>>> >>> >>email at my private email address. I may not notice any further

message

>>> >>> >>in this group in future.

>>> >>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> >>> > Please forgive me if I sound rude

>>> >>> >>> >>> >

>>> >>> >>> >>> > Kind regards

>>> >>> >>> >>> > Atul

>>> >>> >>> >>> >

January 16, 2010

= Exaltation of planets ??? :-(

And they told me that the Subject heading never lies! :-(

RR_,

vedic astrology , krishna joshi <snjoshy wrote:

>

> Dear Raj ji,

>

> I believe, before we become members of a , teaches

> us this! So this class is from .

>

> Shri

>

> >

> >Raj <rajbhardwaj1949

> >vedic astrology

> >Sat, 16 January, 2010 8:44:04 AM

> >[vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

> >

> > >

> >>

> >

> >Dear Shrikrishna Ji,

> >>Thanks for your teachings.So be it ! I did not know such things

before,because no one taught me!

> >

> >>Raj Bhardwaj

> >

> >>vedic astrology, krishna joshi <snjoshy@ > wrote:

> >>>

> >>> Dear Raj ji,

> >>>

> >>> A similar thread in another group, was forcibly stopped by moderator,

> >>> deleting some really annoying mails. This may sound too harsh ( we

> >>> practice democracy too strongly, especially in verbal exchanges!) but

> >>> to maintain the decorum it was necessary.

> >>>

> >>> In the above case , the group ( except a few , who eagerly wait for

others

> >>> to fight) really felt relieved after the message went from moderator

about the

> >>> group's purpose, dos and donts to members and all the " special "

messages

> >>> were deleted from the thread.

> >>>

> >>> If the end product of any discussion is the sour feeling between

individuals and

> >>> no learning for anybody, it is better to cut that thread at the start.

> >>>

> >>> I leave it to the moderator of this group to decide on it.

> >>>

> >>> regards

> >>> Shri

> >>>

> >>> >

> >>> >Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...>

> >>> >vedic astrology

> >>> >Sat, 16 January, 2010 4:04:39 AM

> >>> >[vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

> >>> >

> >>> > >

> >>> >>

> >>> >

> >>> >>Dear Shrikrishna Ji,

> >>> >>May be I have not been able to convey the spirit underlying in my mail.

Thanks for your prediction about the group. You have left me with no choice

except to repeat what Rohini Ji had written, I repeat below :-

> >>> >

> >>> >> " Please lead by example how you would like this or any other forum to

be! Show us!!

> >>> >

> >>> >>Raj Bhardwaj

> >>> >

> >>> >>vedic astrology, krishna joshi <snjoshy@ >

wrote:

> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> Dear Raj ji,

> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> I agree with some of your points, but of late I have seen

> >>> >>> too many exchanges on " personal " basis. That's why

> >>> >>> I said , it is tending to be a bazaar, which has no moderation

> >>> >>> or self-control. Pls. note that I am indicating a symptom; it has

> >>> >>> not yet become a disease.

> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> I feel, the rate at which the personal tirades are exchanged,

> >>> >>> the noble cause for which this group started may get obliterated.

> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> I definitely opt for moderation here - if it is not out of the

individual's

> >>> >>> self-control , the moderator has to force it. If anybody thinks

that nicety is

> >>> >>> weakness, I beg to differ..

> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> regards

> >>> >>> Shri

> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...>

> >>> >>> >vedic astrology

> >>> >>> >Sat, 16 January, 2010 2:38:03 AM

> >>> >>> >[vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> > >

> >>> >>> >>

> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>Dear Shrikrishna Ji,

> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>Let me try to clear some thing! V-A is a " Group " , which can also be

> >>> >>> >>termed as Assembly of people , where astrologers and advice seekers

join

> >>> >>> >>hands. It cannot in any way be called a Bazaar or Assembly of people

> >>> >>> >>prohibited under some section of the IPC.There are no invitations or

> >>> >>> >>advertisements for joining this group. No elections are held for

this

> >>> >>> >>Group to become Ministers, because it is not formed under any

> >>> >>> >>constitution , thus there is no limit of maximum seats. There are no

> >>> >>> >>farewell or welcome speeches.

> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>There ought to be few leg pulling in such a large group, where no

one

> >>> >>> >>has to announce one's Arrival & Departure. There ought to be few tit

> >>> >>> >>bits and rising of temperature, genuine or not so genuine , here

and

> >>> >>> >>there, between any one. This can happen in any

> >>> >>> >>group/team/ gatherin g/field.

> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>But, the beauty is having no C.E.O here. The astrologers , people

having

> >>> >>> >>inclination and interest in astrology and also people who seek

free

> >>> >>> >>astrology advice are the people who at any given time, form this

Group.

> >>> >>> >>The group has grown in strength despite some skirmishes, leg

pulling,

> >>> >>> >>sarcastic comments, criticism etc now and then, right from

inception.

> >>> >>> >>When I am typing this , the last Message No. is 118087 (More than

one

> >>> >>> >>Lac). Perhaps very few people must have read even all the messages.

> >>> >>> >>Despite all this, the Group is moving ahead in the spread of Vedic

> >>> >>> >>Astrology. I have also observed that a number of people have termed

few

> >>> >>> >>discussions to the extreme extent of Heinous Crimes. Other labels

like

> >>> >>> >>; lack of democracy, un-democratic, lack of manners, lack of good

sense,

> >>> >>> >>lack of etiquettes uncivilised also appear. The are not abnormal

traits

> >>> >>> >>in all of us, which raise their head from time to time and we all do

> >>> >>> >>learn a lot by way of self-analysis, and few of us do have such

> >>> >>> >>inclinations ,I believe .

> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>As far as my knowledge goes, no Astrologer in this group has

appeared on

> >>> >>> >>the TV shows on Jyotish, for showing their faces to their families

and

> >>> >>> >>friends,in order to get some kind of fame, and most of them

becoming a

> >>> >>> >>laughing stock and blot on the Astrology ( with rare exceptions, few

> >>> >>> >>learned Gurus/Teachers of Astology have also come). I hope that

some

> >>> >>> >>members of this group from India would have also watched the live

drama

> >>> >>> >>between Jyotishis,other people, on a channel, for a long time, on

the

> >>> >>> >>occasion of Surya Grahan.

> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>How many astrologers who have been writing in this Group ; are doing

so

> >>> >>> >>for sake of money or to show their faces and body parts ? To a

greater

> >>> >>> >>extent, it can be genuinely termed as selfless service, starting

from

> >>> >>> >>the great teachers who have set up such groups and have shared their

> >>> >>> >>deep knowledge openly, without any reservation with all and sundry.

Are

> >>> >>> >>you aware that most of the times, astrologers do not even get a

simple

> >>> >>> >> " Thank You " for their advice, but they go on. And the Group is

> >>> >>> >>growing in it's esteem. Dear Shrikrishna Ji, , Groups are like the

> >>> >>> >>proverbial ` Kajal Ki Kothri' and we know that " Kitna Jati

> >>> >>> >>ho koi, Kitna sati ho koi, Kamini Ka kaam bhai Jage hi jage, Kajal

ki

> >>> >>> >>kothri main kaiso hi jatan karo, kajal ka daag bhai lage hi lage re

bhai

> >>> >>> >>kajal ka daag bhai lage hi lage " ; and yet all of us like to enter

> >>> >>> >>this kothri and go out WITH a blot ! Some karma or destiny here !

> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>Raj Bhardwaj

> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>vedic astrology, krishna joshi <snjoshy@ >

> >>> >>> >>wrote:

> >>> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> >>> Hi,

> >>> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> >>> I have seen certain discussion threads becoming too " personal "

> >>> >>> >>> and certain responses clearly lack the etiquette of civility.

> >>> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> >>> If this forum tends to become a " bazaar " for astrology ( with no

> >>> >>> >>> bars, like our politics), I would like to dissociate from this

group.

> >>> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> >>> No offense meant to anybody!

> >>> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> >>> regards

> >>> >>> >>> Shri

> >>> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> >rohinicrystal jyotish_vani@ ...

> >>> >>> >>> >vedic astrology

> >>> >>> >>> >Fri, 15 January, 2010 9:18:17 PM

> >>> >>> >>> >[vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> > >

> >>> >>> >>> >>

> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> >Dear Sanjay,

> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> >>What is in a name?

> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> >>How can one make a joke of 'something' that would change as soon

as

> >>> >>> >>we die! All of us?

> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> >>Hindi is my mother-tongue, the very first language I learned --

but

> >>> >>> >>I have never seen it written like I saw it in your angry post! That

was

> >>> >>> >>not devnagri for sure!

> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> >>Why are you so upset? Let us all celebrate the eclipse! :-)

> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> >>Ranjan

> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> >>vedic astrology, " Sanjay Rath " sjrath@

> >>> >>> >>wrote:

> >>> >>> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> >>> >>> Dear Rohini

> >>> >>> >>> >>> What is this you are doing? You are making a joke out of

someone's

> >>> >>> >>name.

> >>> >>> >>> >>> His name is Jamini Bhusan Padhi. In Hindi it would be written

> >>> >>> >>jÄmini bhuá¹£aá¹‡a pÄá¸hi

> >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards

> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sanjay Rath

> >>> >>> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> >>> >>> rohinicrystal

> >>> >>> >>> >>> Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:43 AM

> >>> >>> >>> >>> vedic astrology

> >>> >>> >>> >>> [vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

> >>> >>> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> >>> >>> I am sorry <nameless one!> that you felt crushed by my EGO :-)

> >>> >>> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> >>> >>> Not sure how or where my bloat pressed you and CUT_OFF your

> >>> >>> >>circulation (neck above!) but please share so that I can make amends

or

> >>> >>> >>at least correct your misconception! :-)

> >>> >>> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> >>> >>> The 'etc.' who are unknown to me and to you too since you only

> >>> >>> >>named me (!) can fend for themselves :-)

> >>> >>> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> >>> >>> By the way, the right spelling should be JAiMINI PAtHI -- one

who

> >>> >>> >>is on the path shown by Jaimini Rishi! ;-)

> >>> >>> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards,

> >>> >>> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> >>> >>> Rohiniranjan

> >>> >>> >>> >>>

> >>> >>> >>> >>> vedic astrology, Jamini Padhi

> >>> >>> >><jamini_padhi@ > wrote:

> >>> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> >>> > Dear Atul ji,

> >>> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> >>> > Many members like Rohini, etc.Ã‚ have bloated egos. I have

> >>> >>> >>stopped posting message or replying to any mail in this forum for

the

> >>> >>> >>last 4 years due to people like Rohini, etc. There are goodÃ‚ things

> >>> >>> >>to learn from a few members rest of them are sheer peddlers to say

the

> >>> >>> >>least but they think they are some kind of spiritual gurus.

> >>> >>> >>> >>> > Ã‚

> >>> >>> >>> >>> > Jamini Bhusan Padhi

> >>> >>> >>> >>> > 0091-9223349242 (M)

> >>> >>> >>> >>> > 0091-22-24301190 ®

> >>> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> >>> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> >>> >>> >>> >>> > Dr. A. Bhatla <astrologytree@ >

> >>> >>> >>> >>> > vedic astrology

> >>> >>> >>> >>> > Sat, January 9, 2010 11:37:04 AM

> >>> >>> >>> >>> > [vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

> >>> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> >>> > Ã‚

> >>> >>> >>> >>> > Respected Rohini Ji and all members,

> >>> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> >>> > I have no intention to offend any of the member of the

forum.

> >>> >>> >>But as this is a public forum I think I should express myself

honestly.

> >>> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> >>> > Respected PVR Narasimha Rao Ji had a great vision when he

> >>> >>> >>started this group. This is clearly reflected in the description of

the

> >>> >>> >>group. Most of the members understand the vision seen by him when he

> >>> >>> >>started this group. But I think I want to write his vision in a

simple

> >>> >>> >>language so that stupid people like me can understand for what

reason

> >>> >>> >>did he actually kept the foundation of this sacred group. And all of

us

> >>> >>> >>can respect his vision and stick to his intention behind starting

this

> >>> >>> >>group.

> >>> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> >>> > Respected PVR Narasimha Rao ji wanted to establish a place

where

> >>> >>> >>there is a 'hermitage' like atmoshphere for learning astrology. He

> >>> >>> >>wanted to make an environment where non-corrupt information flow

> >>> >>> >>seamlessly and without any selfish intention.

> >>> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> >>> > For Senior Astrologers and students of astrology he wanted

to

> >>> >>> >>make a place to discuss the principles of Vedic astrology (Jyotish)

in a

> >>> >>> >>hermitage- like atmosphere where there is atmosphere of:

> >>> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> >>> > devoted learning,

> >>> >>> >>> >>> > Selfless sharing,

> >>> >>> >>> >>> > courtesy and mutual respect,

> >>> >>> >>> >>> > novices can freely ask very basic questions and get answers,

> >>> >>> >>> >>> > where very advanced discussions are going on alongside.

> >>> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> >>> > For seekers and " need help " members:

> >>> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> >>> > he never wanted to make this group as " need help " and

" astrology

> >>> >>> >>consultation " group. This is clearly indicated in last few lines of

the

> >>> >>> >>group descriptions. And he didn't wanted to astrologers to answer

any

> >>> >>> >>such query so that such messages are not encouraged. This is also

> >>> >>> >>clearly indicated in this group description' s last few lines.

> >>> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> >>> > Again, I do not intend to hurt anybody, I think this group

as a

> >>> >>> >>sacred place for learning astrology especially for persons like me

who

> >>> >>> >>do not have any able guru nearby to learn from. And this was the

> >>> >>> >>intention of Respected PVR Narasimha Rao Ji and the vision he saw.

> >>> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> >>> > I request all the members of the group to respect his great

> >>> >>> >>vision and stick to the guidelines stated by the Lord himself.

Atleast

> >>> >>> >>this we can do to thank him for his selfless service to Astrology.

> >>> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> >>> > If you have Any comment/complaint/ suggestion for this mail

> >>> >>> >>and/or you want to abuse me or any other similar thing, please send

me a

> >>> >>> >>email at my private email address. I may not notice any further

message

> >>> >>> >>in this group in future.

> >>> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> >>> > Please forgive me if I sound rude

> >>> >>> >>> >>> >

> >>> >>> >>> >>> > Kind regards

> >>> >>> >>> >>> > Atul

> >>> >>> >>> >>> >

January 17, 2010

Dear Rohini

I was not angry at all when I wrote that. I was calm like ice. I was just

pointing to one as learned as you that look, why pick on the name? Its too low.

Someone has addressed a grievance to you. You can deal with it in many ways, one

of which would be 'saama'.

I just realized that has one big failure in that it does not allow

UTF8 fonts to display. That's why what was simply a name looked like some kind

of cursing or bad language - maybe - miracles of software flaws. I was trying to

show that his name is as it is and how it is pronounced. The title/surname -

paaDhii and name jaamini as in jaamini roy, the artist

OK sorry for killing you with this boring post. Gracious be

With regards as always

Sanjay

rohinicrystal

Saturday, January 16, 2010 10:48 AM

vedic astrology

[vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

Dear Sanjay,

What is in a name?

How can one make a joke of 'something' that would change as soon as we die! All

of us?

Hindi is my mother-tongue, the very first language I learned -- but I have never

seen it written like I saw it in your angry post! That was not devnagri for

sure!

Why are you so upset? Let us all celebrate the eclipse! :-)

Ranjan

vedic astrology , " Sanjay Rath " <sjrath wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini

> What is this you are doing? You are making a joke out of someone's name.

> His name is Jamini Bhusan Padhi. In Hindi it would be written

à¤oà¤¾à¤®à¤¿à¤¨à¤¿ à¤à¥à¤·à¤£ à¤ªà¤¾à¤¢à¤¿ | jÄmini bhuá¹£aá¹?a pÄá¸hi

> Regards

> Sanjay Rath

>

> rohinicrystal

> Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:43 AM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

>

> I am sorry <nameless one!> that you felt crushed by my EGO :-)

>

> Not sure how or where my bloat pressed you and CUT_OFF your circulation (neck

above!) but please share so that I can make amends or at least correct your

misconception! :-)

>

> The 'etc.' who are unknown to me and to you too since you only named me (!)

can fend for themselves :-)

>

> By the way, the right spelling should be JAiMINI PAtHI -- one who is on the

path shown by Jaimini Rishi! ;-)

>

> Regards,

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> vedic astrology , Jamini Padhi <jamini_padhi@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Atul ji,

> >

> > Many members like Rohini, etc.Ã, have bloated egos. I have stopped posting

message or replying to any mail in this forum for the last 4 years due to people

like Rohini, etc. There are goodÃ, things to learn from a few members rest of

them are sheer peddlers to say the least but they think they are some kind of

spiritual gurus.

> > Ã,

> > Jamini Bhusan Padhi

> > 0091-9223349242 (M)

> > 0091-22-24301190 ®

> >

> > ________________________________

> > Dr. A. Bhatla <astrologytree@>

> > vedic astrology

> > Sat, January 9, 2010 11:37:04 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

> >

> > Ã,

> > Respected Rohini Ji and all members,

> >

> > I have no intention to offend any of the member of the forum. But as this is

a public forum I think I should express myself honestly.

> >

> > Respected PVR Narasimha Rao Ji had a great vision when he started this

group. This is clearly reflected in the description of the group. Most of the

members understand the vision seen by him when he started this group. But I

think I want to write his vision in a simple language so that stupid people like

me can understand for what reason did he actually kept the foundation of this

sacred group. And all of us can respect his vision and stick to his intention

behind starting this group.

> >

> > Respected PVR Narasimha Rao ji wanted to establish a place where there is a

'hermitage' like atmoshphere for learning astrology. He wanted to make an

environment where non-corrupt information flow seamlessly and without any

selfish intention.

> >

> > For Senior Astrologers and students of astrology he wanted to make a place

to discuss the principles of Vedic astrology (Jyotish) in a hermitage-like

atmosphere where there is atmosphere of:

> >

> > devoted learning,

> > Selfless sharing,

> > courtesy and mutual respect,

> > novices can freely ask very basic questions and get answers,

> > where very advanced discussions are going on alongside.

> >

> > For seekers and " need help " members:

> >

> > he never wanted to make this group as " need help " and " astrology

consultation " group. This is clearly indicated in last few lines of the group

descriptions. And he didn't wanted to astrologers to answer any such query so

that such messages are not encouraged. This is also clearly indicated in this

group description' s last few lines.

> >

> > Again, I do not intend to hurt anybody, I think this group as a sacred place

for learning astrology especially for persons like me who do not have any able

guru nearby to learn from. And this was the intention of Respected PVR Narasimha

Rao Ji and the vision he saw.

> >

> > I request all the members of the group to respect his great vision and stick

to the guidelines stated by the Lord himself. Atleast this we can do to thank

him for his selfless service to Astrology.

> >

> > If you have Any comment/complaint/ suggestion for this mail and/or you want

to abuse me or any other similar thing, please send me a email at my private

email address. I may not notice any further message in this group in future.

> >

> > Please forgive me if I sound rude

> >

> > Kind regards

> > Atul

> >

January 18, 2010

Dear Sanjay,

Anything you have ever written, would neither get a yawn from me ever, nor would

it be taken 'personally' because I admire and respect you, even if I may not

agree all the time with you or what your write :-)

As far as cursing goes, that is again something I would not associate with you!

I have experienced abusive and gutter-language very recently which earlier were

directed at Two brilliant Jyotishis, way more accomplished than what I can ever

dream of being (names withheld!). This makes me feel as if I have finally

entered the Jyotish Hall of Fame ;-)

Sama, enough? :-)

Kind regards,

Ranjan

vedic astrology , " Sanjay Rath " <sjrath wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini

> I was not angry at all when I wrote that. I was calm like ice. I was just

pointing to one as learned as you that look, why pick on the name? Its too low.

> Someone has addressed a grievance to you. You can deal with it in many ways,

one of which would be 'saama'.

> I just realized that has one big failure in that it does not

allow UTF8 fonts to display. That's why what was simply a name looked like some

kind of cursing or bad language - maybe - miracles of software flaws. I was

trying to show that his name is as it is and how it is pronounced. The

title/surname - paaDhii and name jaamini as in jaamini roy, the artist

> OK sorry for killing you with this boring post. Gracious be

> With regards as always

> Sanjay

>

> rohinicrystal

> Saturday, January 16, 2010 10:48 AM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

>

> Dear Sanjay,

>

> What is in a name?

>

> How can one make a joke of 'something' that would change as soon as we die!

All of us?

>

> Hindi is my mother-tongue, the very first language I learned -- but I have

never seen it written like I saw it in your angry post! That was not devnagri

for sure!

>

> Why are you so upset? Let us all celebrate the eclipse! :-)

>

> Ranjan

>

> vedic astrology , " Sanjay Rath " <sjrath@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rohini

> > What is this you are doing? You are making a joke out of someone's name.

> > His name is Jamini Bhusan Padhi. In Hindi it would be written

à¤oà¤¾à¤®à¤¿à¤¨à¤¿ à¤à¥à¤·à¤£ à¤ªà¤¾à¤¢à¤¿ | jÄmini bhuá¹£aá¹?a pÄá¸hi

> > Regards

> > Sanjay Rath

> >

> > rohinicrystal

> > Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:43 AM

> > vedic astrology

> > [vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

> >

> > I am sorry <nameless one!> that you felt crushed by my EGO :-)

> >

> > Not sure how or where my bloat pressed you and CUT_OFF your circulation

(neck above!) but please share so that I can make amends or at least correct

your misconception! :-)

> >

> > The 'etc.' who are unknown to me and to you too since you only named me (!)

can fend for themselves :-)

> >

> > By the way, the right spelling should be JAiMINI PAtHI -- one who is on the

path shown by Jaimini Rishi! ;-)

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > vedic astrology , Jamini Padhi <jamini_padhi@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Atul ji,

> > >

> > > Many members like Rohini, etc.Ã, have bloated egos. I have stopped posting

message or replying to any mail in this forum for the last 4 years due to people

like Rohini, etc. There are goodÃ, things to learn from a few members rest of

them are sheer peddlers to say the least but they think they are some kind of

spiritual gurus.

> > > Ã,

> > > Jamini Bhusan Padhi

> > > 0091-9223349242 (M)

> > > 0091-22-24301190 ®

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > Dr. A. Bhatla <astrologytree@>

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Sat, January 9, 2010 11:37:04 AM

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

> > >

> > > Ã,

> > > Respected Rohini Ji and all members,

> > >

> > > I have no intention to offend any of the member of the forum. But as this

is a public forum I think I should express myself honestly.

> > >

> > > Respected PVR Narasimha Rao Ji had a great vision when he started this

group. This is clearly reflected in the description of the group. Most of the

members understand the vision seen by him when he started this group. But I

think I want to write his vision in a simple language so that stupid people like

me can understand for what reason did he actually kept the foundation of this

sacred group. And all of us can respect his vision and stick to his intention

behind starting this group.

> > >

> > > Respected PVR Narasimha Rao ji wanted to establish a place where there is

a 'hermitage' like atmoshphere for learning astrology. He wanted to make an

environment where non-corrupt information flow seamlessly and without any

selfish intention.

> > >

> > > For Senior Astrologers and students of astrology he wanted to make a place

to discuss the principles of Vedic astrology (Jyotish) in a hermitage-like

atmosphere where there is atmosphere of:

> > >

> > > devoted learning,

> > > Selfless sharing,

> > > courtesy and mutual respect,

> > > novices can freely ask very basic questions and get answers,

> > > where very advanced discussions are going on alongside.

> > >

> > > For seekers and " need help " members:

> > >

> > > he never wanted to make this group as " need help " and " astrology

consultation " group. This is clearly indicated in last few lines of the group

descriptions. And he didn't wanted to astrologers to answer any such query so

that such messages are not encouraged. This is also clearly indicated in this

group description' s last few lines.

> > >

> > > Again, I do not intend to hurt anybody, I think this group as a sacred

place for learning astrology especially for persons like me who do not have any

able guru nearby to learn from. And this was the intention of Respected PVR

Narasimha Rao Ji and the vision he saw.

> > >

> > > I request all the members of the group to respect his great vision and

stick to the guidelines stated by the Lord himself. Atleast this we can do to

thank him for his selfless service to Astrology.

> > >

> > > If you have Any comment/complaint/ suggestion for this mail and/or you

want to abuse me or any other similar thing, please send me a email at my

private email address. I may not notice any further message in this group in

future.

> > >

> > > Please forgive me if I sound rude

> > >

> > > Kind regards

> > > Atul

> > >

January 18, 2010

Dear Rohini

I have been seeing some of this and ... guess you are right.

Regards

Sanjay

rohinicrystal

Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:57 AM

vedic astrology

[vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

Dear Sanjay,

Anything you have ever written, would neither get a yawn from me ever, nor would

it be taken 'personally' because I admire and respect you, even if I may not

agree all the time with you or what your write :-)

As far as cursing goes, that is again something I would not associate with you!

I have experienced abusive and gutter-language very recently which earlier were

directed at Two brilliant Jyotishis, way more accomplished than what I can ever

dream of being (names withheld!). This makes me feel as if I have finally

entered the Jyotish Hall of Fame ;-)

Sama, enough? :-)

Kind regards,

Ranjan

January 18, 2010

India 243

Bangladesh 98/6 (30.5 ov

--

-

Sanjay Rath

vedic astrology

Tuesday, January 19, 2010 10:10 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

Dear Rohini

I have been seeing some of this and ... guess you are right.

Regards

Sanjay

rohinicrystal

Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:57 AM

vedic astrology

[vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

Dear Sanjay,

Anything you have ever written, would neither get a yawn from me ever, nor

would it be taken 'personally' because I admire and respect you, even if I may

not agree all the time with you or what your write :-)

As far as cursing goes, that is again something I would not associate with

you! I have experienced abusive and gutter-language very recently which earlier

were directed at Two brilliant Jyotishis, way more accomplished than what I can

ever dream of being (names withheld!). This makes me feel as if I have finally

entered the Jyotish Hall of Fame ;-)

Sama, enough? :-)

Kind regards,

Ranjan

January 19, 2010

Rohini Da,

" I have experienced abusive and gutter-language very recently which earlier were

directed at Two brilliant Jyotishis, way more accomplished than what I can ever

dream of being (names withheld!). This makes me feel as if I have finally

entered the Jyotish Hall of Fame "

This yardstick puts me, perhaps, much ahead you, although you are senior in

other respects.

-VJ

===================== ===

vedic astrology , " Sanjay Rath " <sjrath wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini

> I have been seeing some of this and ... guess you are right.

> Regards

> Sanjay

>

> rohinicrystal

> Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:57 AM

> vedic astrology

> [vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

>

> Dear Sanjay,

>

> Anything you have ever written, would neither get a yawn from me ever, nor

would it be taken 'personally' because I admire and respect you, even if I may

not agree all the time with you or what your write :-)

>

> As far as cursing goes, that is again something I would not associate with

you! I have experienced abusive and gutter-language very recently which earlier

were directed at Two brilliant Jyotishis, way more accomplished than what I can

ever dream of being (names withheld!). This makes me feel as if I have finally

entered the Jyotish Hall of Fame ;-)

>

> Sama, enough? :-)

>

> Kind regards,

>

> Ranjan

>

January 19, 2010

Vinayji,

Haha! I will begin to call you Vinay_Da in that case :-)

I have a feeling that neecha mars boiling and stuck in the neecha rashi will

probably bring on a few such tirades before the rainy season starts!

RR_,

vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

>

> Rohini Da,

>

> " I have experienced abusive and gutter-language very recently which earlier

were directed at Two brilliant Jyotishis, way more accomplished than what I can

ever dream of being (names withheld!). This makes me feel as if I have finally

entered the Jyotish Hall of Fame "

>

> This yardstick puts me, perhaps, much ahead you, although you are senior in

other respects.

>

> -VJ

> ===================== ===

> vedic astrology , " Sanjay Rath " <sjrath@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rohini

> > I have been seeing some of this and ... guess you are right.

> > Regards

> > Sanjay

> >

> > rohinicrystal

> > Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:57 AM

> > vedic astrology

> > [vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

> >

> > Dear Sanjay,

> >

> > Anything you have ever written, would neither get a yawn from me ever, nor

would it be taken 'personally' because I admire and respect you, even if I may

not agree all the time with you or what your write :-)

> >

> > As far as cursing goes, that is again something I would not associate with

you! I have experienced abusive and gutter-language very recently which earlier

were directed at Two brilliant Jyotishis, way more accomplished than what I can

ever dream of being (names withheld!). This makes me feel as if I have finally

entered the Jyotish Hall of Fame ;-)

> >

> > Sama, enough? :-)

> >

> > Kind regards,

> >

> > Ranjan

> >

January 19, 2010

Rohini Da,

I have no desire of becoming a Da.

In Sep 2009, four planets were in neecha : Jup, Ven, Sun, Mars. But I got a fine

reception in Delhi among top politicians and bureaucrats of India (I had gone

there to promote the cause of Sanskrit education). Just one month later, nearly

one hundred persons of a particulat caste were mobilized by some drunkards to

wage an unsuccessful ABUSIVE Andolan against me for capturing the premises of

Sanskrit college controlled by me. At that time, three planets were in neecha

and all planets in Trika houses (vipareeta rajayoga was also working). Gochara

was much less effective than my own birthchart, Vimshottari and

Varshaphala-maasaphala.

Today, the muhurta is fine and I am starting to write a detailed commentary on

Suryasiddhanta, esp on its two initial chapters on mean and true planets which

have been non-mathematically dealt by all previous native commentators, and

falsely treated by foreign commentators I possess the necessary material). I

have begged Goddess Sarasvati to enable me to accomplish this task which was

deliberately neglected by all those native experts who deemed it unfit to

explain this " rahasyam " .

Today, some friends in Mumbai and Varanasi have agreed than translation of

Sayana's commentary of Vedas into Hindi and English should be started. We are

looking for some translator.

I want a detailed commentary on BPHS, but I have too many tasks at present.

-VJ

============================ ====

vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> Vinayji,

>

> Haha! I will begin to call you Vinay_Da in that case :-)

>

> I have a feeling that neecha mars boiling and stuck in the neecha rashi will

probably bring on a few such tirades before the rainy season starts!

>

> RR_,

>

> vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> >

> > Rohini Da,

> >

> > " I have experienced abusive and gutter-language very recently which earlier

were directed at Two brilliant Jyotishis, way more accomplished than what I can

ever dream of being (names withheld!). This makes me feel as if I have finally

entered the Jyotish Hall of Fame "

> >

> > This yardstick puts me, perhaps, much ahead you, although you are senior in

other respects.

> >

> > -VJ

> > ===================== ===

> > vedic astrology , " Sanjay Rath " <sjrath@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rohini

> > > I have been seeing some of this and ... guess you are right.

> > > Regards

> > > Sanjay

> > >

> > > rohinicrystal

> > > Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:57 AM

> > > vedic astrology

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

> > >

> > > Dear Sanjay,

> > >

> > > Anything you have ever written, would neither get a yawn from me ever, nor

would it be taken 'personally' because I admire and respect you, even if I may

not agree all the time with you or what your write :-)

> > >

> > > As far as cursing goes, that is again something I would not associate with

you! I have experienced abusive and gutter-language very recently which earlier

were directed at Two brilliant Jyotishis, way more accomplished than what I can

ever dream of being (names withheld!). This makes me feel as if I have finally

entered the Jyotish Hall of Fame ;-)

> > >

> > > Sama, enough? :-)

> > >

> > > Kind regards,

> > >

> > > Ranjan

> > >

January 19, 2010

Vinay_ji,

That is the beauty of being born as a human being! One is privileged to witness

the dance and music of planets through one's life as they go from neecha to

uccha, direct to retrograde and all other AWASTHAS in between!

Think about this for a moment, Sir: The planets DO NOT HAVE A CHOICE! They are

under the control of very RIGID LAWS: Gravitation, Bode's rule and a bunch of

other Physics type things that you and other scientists here know a lot better

than me, I am sure! If the planets revolt and try to break the " LAW " there will

be CHAOS and the UNIVERSE will be destroyed intantaneously! Won't you agree?

But the Human being has so many choices and paths to follow! Sure there will be

karmic repercussions and so on, but I think we human beings are way more free

than the planets themselves are!

Let us count our blessings and make the best use of our lives and minds and

hearts and soul :-)

Rohiniranjan

vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

>

> Rohini Da,

>

> I have no desire of becoming a Da.

>

> In Sep 2009, four planets were in neecha : Jup, Ven, Sun, Mars. But I got a

fine reception in Delhi among top politicians and bureaucrats of India (I had

gone there to promote the cause of Sanskrit education). Just one month later,

nearly one hundred persons of a particulat caste were mobilized by some

drunkards to wage an unsuccessful ABUSIVE Andolan against me for capturing the

premises of Sanskrit college controlled by me. At that time, three planets were

in neecha and all planets in Trika houses (vipareeta rajayoga was also working).

Gochara was much less effective than my own birthchart, Vimshottari and

Varshaphala-maasaphala.

>

> Today, the muhurta is fine and I am starting to write a detailed commentary on

Suryasiddhanta, esp on its two initial chapters on mean and true planets which

have been non-mathematically dealt by all previous native commentators, and

falsely treated by foreign commentators I possess the necessary material). I

have begged Goddess Sarasvati to enable me to accomplish this task which was

deliberately neglected by all those native experts who deemed it unfit to

explain this " rahasyam " .

>

> Today, some friends in Mumbai and Varanasi have agreed than translation of

Sayana's commentary of Vedas into Hindi and English should be started. We are

looking for some translator.

>

> I want a detailed commentary on BPHS, but I have too many tasks at present.

>

> -VJ

> ============================ ====

> vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Vinayji,

> >

> > Haha! I will begin to call you Vinay_Da in that case :-)

> >

> > I have a feeling that neecha mars boiling and stuck in the neecha rashi will

probably bring on a few such tirades before the rainy season starts!

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Rohini Da,

> > >

> > > " I have experienced abusive and gutter-language very recently which

earlier were directed at Two brilliant Jyotishis, way more accomplished than

what I can ever dream of being (names withheld!). This makes me feel as if I

have finally entered the Jyotish Hall of Fame "

> > >

> > > This yardstick puts me, perhaps, much ahead you, although you are senior

in other respects.

> > >

> > > -VJ

> > > ===================== ===

> > > vedic astrology , " Sanjay Rath " <sjrath@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rohini

> > > > I have been seeing some of this and ... guess you are right.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Sanjay

> > > >

> > > > rohinicrystal

> > > > Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:57 AM

> > > > vedic astrology

> > > > [vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sanjay,

> > > >

> > > > Anything you have ever written, would neither get a yawn from me ever,

nor would it be taken 'personally' because I admire and respect you, even if I

may not agree all the time with you or what your write :-)

> > > >

> > > > As far as cursing goes, that is again something I would not associate

with you! I have experienced abusive and gutter-language very recently which

earlier were directed at Two brilliant Jyotishis, way more accomplished than

what I can ever dream of being (names withheld!). This makes me feel as if I

have finally entered the Jyotish Hall of Fame ;-)

> > > >

> > > > Sama, enough? :-)

> > > >

> > > > Kind regards,

> > > >

> > > > Ranjan

> > > >

January 20, 2010

I wish a thread on Ayanamasya would have gone such long!

January 20, 2010

Dear Rohini Ji and Vinay Ji,

I am really enjoying it and learning a lot as well. What I have experienced that

when planets are in the Neecha awastha,most of the time it is very encouraging,

as they have 7th aspect on their Uccha sign ! I do not know why I intutively

treat the position of Neecha planets as a good;and very interesting position in

charts, rather than when they are Ucchha and have 7th aspect on their Neecha

sign. I have practically found it so after analysing many charts.

At least I feel I am having good times and enjoying, since Jupiter was Neech and

then Mars became Neech. I have Mars in my Scorpio lagna and Jup in Sag. And am

really getting lot of learning and quite a bit of interesting charts analysis

too. Why it is so ? With my best wishes.

Raj Bhardwaj

vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> Vinay_ji,

>

> That is the beauty of being born as a human being! One is privileged to

witness the dance and music of planets through one's life as they go from neecha

to uccha, direct to retrograde and all other AWASTHAS in between!

>

> Think about this for a moment, Sir: The planets DO NOT HAVE A CHOICE! They are

under the control of very RIGID LAWS: Gravitation, Bode's rule and a bunch of

other Physics type things that you and other scientists here know a lot better

than me, I am sure! If the planets revolt and try to break the " LAW " there will

be CHAOS and the UNIVERSE will be destroyed intantaneously! Won't you agree?

>

> But the Human being has so many choices and paths to follow! Sure there will

be karmic repercussions and so on, but I think we human beings are way more free

than the planets themselves are!

>

> Let us count our blessings and make the best use of our lives and minds and

hearts and soul :-)

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> >

> > Rohini Da,

> >

> > I have no desire of becoming a Da.

> >

> > In Sep 2009, four planets were in neecha : Jup, Ven, Sun, Mars. But I got a

fine reception in Delhi among top politicians and bureaucrats of India (I had

gone there to promote the cause of Sanskrit education). Just one month later,

nearly one hundred persons of a particulat caste were mobilized by some

drunkards to wage an unsuccessful ABUSIVE Andolan against me for capturing the

premises of Sanskrit college controlled by me. At that time, three planets were

in neecha and all planets in Trika houses (vipareeta rajayoga was also working).

Gochara was much less effective than my own birthchart, Vimshottari and

Varshaphala-maasaphala.

> >

> > Today, the muhurta is fine and I am starting to write a detailed commentary

on Suryasiddhanta, esp on its two initial chapters on mean and true planets

which have been non-mathematically dealt by all previous native commentators,

and falsely treated by foreign commentators I possess the necessary material). I

have begged Goddess Sarasvati to enable me to accomplish this task which was

deliberately neglected by all those native experts who deemed it unfit to

explain this " rahasyam " .

> >

> > Today, some friends in Mumbai and Varanasi have agreed than translation of

Sayana's commentary of Vedas into Hindi and English should be started. We are

looking for some translator.

> >

> > I want a detailed commentary on BPHS, but I have too many tasks at present.

> >

> > -VJ

> > ============================ ====

> > vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Vinayji,

> > >

> > > Haha! I will begin to call you Vinay_Da in that case :-)

> > >

> > > I have a feeling that neecha mars boiling and stuck in the neecha rashi

will probably bring on a few such tirades before the rainy season starts!

> > >

> > > RR_,

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Rohini Da,

> > > >

> > > > " I have experienced abusive and gutter-language very recently which

earlier were directed at Two brilliant Jyotishis, way more accomplished than

what I can ever dream of being (names withheld!). This makes me feel as if I

have finally entered the Jyotish Hall of Fame "

> > > >

> > > > This yardstick puts me, perhaps, much ahead you, although you are senior

in other respects.

> > > >

> > > > -VJ

> > > > ===================== ===

> > > > vedic astrology , " Sanjay Rath " <sjrath@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rohini

> > > > > I have been seeing some of this and ... guess you are right.

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Sanjay

> > > > >

> > > > > rohinicrystal

> > > > > Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:57 AM

> > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: exaltation of planets

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sanjay,

> > > > >

> > > > > Anything you have ever written, would neither get a yawn from me ever,

nor would it be taken 'personally' because I admire and respect you, even if I

may not agree all the time with you or what your write :-)

> > > > >

> > > > > As far as cursing goes, that is again something I would not associate

with you! I have experienced abusive and gutter-language very recently which

earlier were directed at Two brilliant Jyotishis, way more accomplished than

what I can ever dream of being (names withheld!). This makes me feel as if I

have finally entered the Jyotish Hall of Fame ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > Sama, enough? :-)

> > > > >

> > > > > Kind regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Ranjan

> > > > >

January 20, 2010

Doctors must lead by example, Doctor :-)

Open the door (new thread) and make the opening question such that no one feels

intimidated or complacent enough to give an insipid response :-)

A little 'nuance' goes a long way in motivating people to answer or to learn...!

Just a thought...!

Regards,

Rohiniranjan

vedic astrology , " Dr. A. Bhatla " <astrologytree

wrote:

>

> I wish a thread on Ayanamasya would have gone such long!

>

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