Guest guest Report post Posted March 27, 2006 Dear Harjeet, Yes. Cheers !!! Ash , " harjeet_bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > respected ash, > While just studying the chart if lord of the 6th and 7th are the > same.. in case of leo asc. where saturn is both lord of 6th and 7th. > any precaution should be made while studying the 7th house matters. > Thanks/Regards > Harjeet > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 29, 2006 So if saturn has high points for 7th house but is also the lord of 6th would it give any problems in maintaining relationships or totally deny any relationship during its antra? thanks/regards harjeet , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Harjeet, > Yes. > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > respected ash, > > While just studying the chart if lord of the 6th and 7th are the > > same.. in case of leo asc. where saturn is both lord of 6th and 7th. > > any precaution should be made while studying the 7th house matters. > > Thanks/Regards > > Harjeet > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 29, 2006 Harjeet its hard to answer your question like this without looking at the full picture. As an astrologer you must be undersing this. --Manoshi , " harjeet_bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > So if saturn has high points for 7th house but is also the lord of 6th > would it give any problems in maintaining relationships or totally > deny any relationship during its antra? > thanks/regards > harjeet > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > Yes. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > --- In , " harjeet_bakshi " > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > respected ash, > > > While just studying the chart if lord of the 6th and 7th are the > > > same.. in case of leo asc. where saturn is both lord of 6th and 7th. > > > any precaution should be made while studying the 7th house matters. > > > Thanks/Regards > > > Harjeet > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 30, 2006 respected manoshi, Its the same query about my wife which ashji already predicted as its almost accurate. Her DOB is 6th nov 1981, 2:45 am, new delhi. distance between sun and venus is more than 43 degree. Her jupiter is in Libra kundli and navamsa.. and venus being in saggitarius in moola nakshatra but here venus and jupiter are making exchange. I know in KAS we dont give importance to exchange or parivartan as such... but i think parivartan is also like a yoga. so i think jupiter should somehow check venus ?. She is going thru saturn AD which is in 2nd house and having the most points for the 7th house. As ashji predicted correctly seperation did occur in saturn AD. having more than 33% difference of bindus for the first and 7th house..having egoistic and argumentive nautre(besides mars is also in the lagna).. but the only thing that i am concerned about is her having another relationship/s. Is it possible that because Saturn owns both 7th and 6th house that she dont have any other relationship/s ? thanks/regards Harjeet , " Manoshi Chatterjee " <khallopapa wrote: > > Harjeet its hard to answer your question like this without looking > at the full picture. As an astrologer you must be undersing this. > > --Manoshi > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > So if saturn has high points for 7th house but is also the lord of > 6th > > would it give any problems in maintaining relationships or totally > > deny any relationship during its antra? > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > Yes. > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > --- In > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > respected ash, > > > > While just studying the chart if lord of the 6th and 7th are > the > > > > same.. in case of leo asc. where saturn is both lord of 6th > and 7th. > > > > any precaution should be made while studying the 7th house > matters. > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 30, 2006 Dear Harjeet, You said " I know in KAS we dont give importance to exchange or parivartan as such... " The above is your understanding and not as per KAS and it is your inference / opinion. This I am clarifying as such statements might confused other list members. Infact if memory serves me correctly, I had asked u to refer to a lesson on Multiplication factor at which point you had commented that at this point in your life you are unable to devote time to learn KAS. When you do get time to focus and learn KAS maybe such things will get clear with a lot of practice and patience and faith. Cheers !!! Ash harjeet_bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: respected manoshi, Its the same query about my wife which ashji already predicted as its almost accurate. Her DOB is 6th nov 1981, 2:45 am, new delhi. distance between sun and venus is more than 43 degree. Her jupiter is in Libra kundli and navamsa.. and venus being in saggitarius in moola nakshatra but here venus and jupiter are making exchange. I know in KAS we dont give importance to exchange or parivartan as such... but i think parivartan is also like a yoga. so i think jupiter should somehow check venus ?. She is going thru saturn AD which is in 2nd house and having the most points for the 7th house. As ashji predicted correctly seperation did occur in saturn AD. having more than 33% difference of bindus for the first and 7th house..having egoistic and argumentive nautre(besides mars is also in the lagna).. but the only thing that i am concerned about is her having another relationship/s. Is it possible that because Saturn owns both 7th and 6th house that she dont have any other relationship/s ? thanks/regards Harjeet , " Manoshi Chatterjee " wrote: > > Harjeet its hard to answer your question like this without looking > at the full picture. As an astrologer you must be undersing this. > > --Manoshi > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > wrote: > > > > So if saturn has high points for 7th house but is also the lord of > 6th > > would it give any problems in maintaining relationships or totally > > deny any relationship during its antra? > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > Yes. > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > --- In > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > respected ash, > > > > While just studying the chart if lord of the 6th and 7th are > the > > > > same.. in case of leo asc. where saturn is both lord of 6th > and 7th. > > > > any precaution should be made while studying the 7th house > matters. > > > > Thanks/Regards > > > > Harjeet > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 30, 2006 respected ashji, first of all sorry for the statement. yes sir u mentioned about the multiplication factor chapter. my question was regarding 2 planets helping each other about or not which are involved in the parivartan yoga. thanks/regards harjeet Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 30, 2006 Dear Harjeet, There are only certain conditions under which planets help each other. We as per KAS call them Samdharmis. Sam = similar and dharmi = duty. That is also covered in lesson. However, when planets exchange signs they do not become SD. Yes, they might if for example let us take an example. Shani is in cancer and Moon is in Capricorn. Then if Shani is say in first 3deg20 and say if Moon is say from 20 to 23deg20 then Sa and Mo can become samdharmi and help each other. Cheers !!! Ash , " harjeet_bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > respected ashji, > first of all sorry for the statement. > yes sir u mentioned about the multiplication factor chapter. > my question was regarding 2 planets helping each other about or not > which are involved in the parivartan yoga. > thanks/regards > harjeet > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 31, 2006 thanks very much ashji for your reply. , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Harjeet, > There are only certain conditions under which planets help each > other. We as per KAS call them Samdharmis. Sam = similar and dharmi > = duty. > That is also covered in lesson. > However, when planets exchange signs they do not become SD. Yes, they > might if for example let us take an example. > > Shani is in cancer and Moon is in Capricorn. Then if Shani is say in > first 3deg20 and say if Moon is say from 20 to 23deg20 then Sa and Mo > can become samdharmi and help each other. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > respected ashji, > > first of all sorry for the statement. > > yes sir u mentioned about the multiplication factor chapter. > > my question was regarding 2 planets helping each other about or not > > which are involved in the parivartan yoga. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 3, 2006 Dear Harjeet, Mars can never be SD to Rahu or ketu or for that matter no planet can be SD to Rahu or KEtu. Rahu and Ketu become SD to planets i.e. sign lord or nakshatra lord so that can be 2 or 3 depending on the nakshtra it is in. Planets do become SD to 6th lord but say for marriage it might not give the result or it might give but it will cause problems or maybe a couple may have relation but it might not get converted to marraige. Just check the recent chart that Ramesh gave and from that you can get the idea. Harjeet, my suggestion is that please read the lesson. You are making mistakes in the very basics of theory of KAS. This will only lead to more confusion going forward. Also if u want to seriously learn KAS, keep your and the people u are close to their charts aside and take charts that u are not emotionally linked to. In that way you can apply the laws without any bias. Cheers !!!! Ash , " harjeet_bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > Respected Ashji, > If any planet is the sixth lord, it will not act as Samdharmi to any > planet. But here it becomes the exception to the rule when we place > the focus for the result on the 1st or the 9th house. > My case Mars(6th lord) is samdhari to Rahu. So can i presume Mars > wont be acting as samdhari to Rahu with respect to all houses except > 1st and 9th ? > Thanks/Regards > Harjeet > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 3, 2006 thanks very much again ashji Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 3, 2006 Hi, I am a new member to the same astrological group. I was reading through the lessons from the website, but unfortunately I could not understand the following from the lesson 3, page 8. " BHINNASHTAKAVARGA The SUN distributes 48 benefic points to each of the following houses from its natal position in the chart. Every other planet helps to distribute the Sun.s overall points to their own assigned houses below as it relates to their own natal positions. " How should I calculate the points for any chart. Please explain me with one example Thanks a Lot in advance. Regards Neeraj Kaushik New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 4, 2006 Dear Neeraj,Namaskar, I think few days back I have told you to read the lesson 1 and prepare the BHINNASTAKVARGA table for each planet. In lesson one you might have seen every planet Sun to Sat contribute benefic bindus to every planet and lagna.So it becomes eight planet.Sun to Sat and lagna. Sun distributes 48 benefic points to each houses from its natal position in the chart.According to this table you have to see what are the houses are getting benefic points. Suppose your Sun is in lagna in Aries.Then Sun will distribute benefic points from your natal sun to 1,2,4,7,8,9,10 and 11 house.Then Moon will distribute benefic points from its natal position to 3,6,10 and 11 house.Likewise other planets will also distribute benefic points from its natal position to their respective houses according to this table.Lastly lagna also distributes benefic points to 3,4,6,10,11 and 12 house.Then count all the benefic points against each house this will be your BHINNASTAK VARGA for the planet SUN in each house. Nest prepare the BAV for Moon. You have to refer the table of Moon who distributes benefic points to different houses from Sun to Sat and lagna.You will find that Moon distributes max.49 benefic bindus.It will not be more than 49.Likewise Mars 39, Me 54, Ju 56 ,Ve 52 and Sat contributes 39 benefic points. Lastly this will be your BAV table if you add all points against each planet, then it will be Sarvastak varga. It is very lengthy process.Take one chart and follow the table of each planet ,you will be able to prepare the Bav for each planet. Since there is a problem of time constraint,I explained you in brief.I think you will be able to prepare the table now.Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra , Neeraj Kaushik <neeraj_kaushik wrote: > > > Hi, > > I am a new member to the same astrological group. I was reading through the lessons from the website, but unfortunately I could not understand the following from the lesson 3, page 8. " > BHINNASHTAKAVARGA > > The SUN distributes 48 benefic points to each of the following houses > from its natal position in the chart. Every other planet helps to distribute > the Sun.s overall points to their own assigned houses below as it relates to > their own natal positions. " How should I calculate the points for any chart. Please explain me with one example Thanks a Lot in advance. > > Regards > Neeraj Kaushik > > > > > New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 5, 2006 Dear Neeraj, Namaskar, Please give any birth data and we shall prepare the BAV together. I think you may understand then. First write all rasi from Aries to Pisces in horizental line and planets from Sun to Sat and lagna in vertical line.Take the table of Sun from the lesson.Now see where is the Sun in natal chart.That will be first house for the Sun and rasi where Sun is placed. Now with the help of table of Sun, see what are the houses who receives the benefic point contributed by Sun.Now in that table you may see that Sun distributes points to houses 1,2,4,7,8,9,10 and 11.Suppose you have Leo lagna and Sun in natal chart is placed in 12th in rasi of Karka. Now from karka you put a check mark under the karka rasi and against Sun..Then under Leo sign which is second house from karka ..Next under the Libra sign which is fourth house from natal sun.Afterwards under the sign of Cp,Aq,Pi,Ar and Ta which are 7th,8th,9th,10th and 11th house respectively from your natal Sun. Now come against the Moon planet.You will see that Mo distributes points to 3,6,10 and 11th houses.Your Mo is in lagna in Leo rasi.From natal Mo 3rd rasi falls in Libra so put a check mark under the Li rasi and against the Moon.Then 6th house from natal Moon comes to Cp rasi ,put a check mark under the cp rasi and against Moon.Like wise reach up to 10th and 11th house which are Ta and Ge from natal Mo.Put a check mark under these rasi and against Mo. Repeat the same process for other planets and lagna also from the placement in natal chart.Carry on checking the rasi in column against each planet.After finishing the BAV of Sun .Take the table of Moon from the lesson 1 and follow the same process.I think this might be clear to you now. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra Neeraj Kaushik <neeraj_kaushik wrote: Dear Rameshji Nameskar, I am thankful to you for the information provided. But still I am not able to make the BAV table properly. I was trying to make the BAV table for the sample given in the same chapter at the last, and according to my incorrect calculations, none of the house will have less than two points for any house, but there is only one point to the second house house i.e Sagg. So if you could give me your telephone number I will be greatful to you. I will try to call you at a time as per your convience. Please help... Regards Neeraj Kaushik aarceemastro2002 <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Dear Neeraj,Namaskar, I think few days back I have told you to read the lesson 1 and prepare the BHINNASTAKVARGA table for each planet. In lesson one you might have seen every planet Sun to Sat contribute benefic bindus to every planet and lagna.So it becomes eight planet.Sun to Sat and lagna. Sun distributes 48 benefic points to each houses from its natal position in the chart.According to this table you have to see what are the houses are getting benefic points. Suppose your Sun is in lagna in Aries.Then Sun will distribute benefic points from your natal sun to 1,2,4,7,8,9,10 and 11 house.Then Moon will distribute benefic points from its natal position to 3,6,10 and 11 house.Likewise other planets will also distribute benefic points from its natal position to their respective houses according to this table.Lastly lagna also distributes benefic points to 3,4,6,10,11 and 12 house.Then count all the benefic points against each house this will be your BHINNASTAK VARGA for the planet SUN in each house. Nest prepare the BAV for Moon. You have to refer the table of Moon who distributes benefic points to different houses from Sun to Sat and lagna.You will find that Moon distributes max.49 benefic bindus.It will not be more than 49.Likewise Mars 39, Me 54, Ju 56 ,Ve 52 and Sat contributes 39 benefic points. Lastly this will be your BAV table if you add all points against each planet, then it will be Sarvastak varga. It is very lengthy process.Take one chart and follow the table of each planet ,you will be able to prepare the Bav for each planet. Since there is a problem of time constraint,I explained you in brief.I think you will be able to prepare the table now.Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra , Neeraj Kaushik <neeraj_kaushik wrote: > > > Hi, > > I am a new member to the same astrological group. I was reading through the lessons from the website, but unfortunately I could not understand the following from the lesson 3, page 8. " > BHINNASHTAKAVARGA > > The SUN distributes 48 benefic points to each of the following houses > from its natal position in the chart. Every other planet helps to distribute > the Sun.s overall points to their own assigned houses below as it relates to > their own natal positions. " How should I calculate the points for any chart. Please explain me with one example Thanks a Lot in advance. > > Regards > Neeraj Kaushik > > > > > New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 18, 2006 Dear Harjeet, My suggestion to u is to learn KAS and the technique and keep your chart aside when learning. Cheers !!! Ash , " harjeet_bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > Respected Ashji, > I again have some problems in my understanding if you can help me please. > You had said that my birth time should be around 11:30 instead of > 10:40 from the timing of my marriage. My mother had told me the time > 10:40, but she is no more to confirm it and my dad said that he isnt > sure about the time. Now i have to make 2 horoscopes and look at them. > The dasas matches more for the time u suggested 11:20 to 11:30 am. but > still its useless for looking at navamsa and other D charts as i dont > know the exact time. > The planets in rasis remain the same. Even the fastest planet moon > remains in same sign pisces. but it has just eneterd and is around 0 > to 1 degree. Taking moon in 5th house pisces, all planets in worksheet > give 12 or more points for house 3 H3 which means my courage level > should be not bad. But the fact is my level of courage is far below > average. > One of the reason might be mars (i guess the planet of courage) weak > in horoscope. or saturn lord of 3rd house going into dusthan 8th house. > The other thought is if i move my moon into 4th house aquarius.. i get > like 3 planets giving less than 12 points for house 3 in the worksheet. > Please if you could help me where i am going wrong? > Thanks/Regards > Harjeet > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 28, 2006 Dear Harjeet, You can go to the transit section in the KAS2006 WS and use that. It gives u 2 charts one is the transit chart and other is natal chart. From natal chart u can get the sign and deg of shani and once u enter the date it gives u the transit position. We have programmed it in such a way that lagnas overlap. Means if your lagna is Capricorn, then transit chart will also have cap lagna so u can immediately visually see where Shani is in transit and other planets too. Hope that helps, Cheers !!! Ash , " harjeet_bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > Respected list members, > Any link from where i can know when saturn entered 0 degree of a zoidac ? > thanks/regards > harjeet > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 28, 2006 thanks very much ashji. regards harjeet Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 6, 2006 Dear harjeet, Marriage normally happens in strongest significator. In the chart, mo is lord of D, placed in E and gets 21 strength points (highest). This native should have a happy married life. But, focusing on your basic query, yes for SD, we do not need to check aspects, but since, moon is strongest here, marriage happened in Moon antra. Thanks & Regards, Manu , " harjeet_bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > Respected Ashji, > native male born on : oct 27th 1974. 18:30 time, ahmedabad place. > i attempted his chart and found out that marriage happened in moon > antra which is the lord of D here. > for marriage in house B(7th house) there are 4 planets viz. mars, > venus, mercury and sun. so if all these planets would be samdhari to > each other as they are in the same sign. now planet in the house B > itself cant give result. so during the antras of all these planets the > event of marriage wont occur.. but in antra of venus which has 14 > points for house 7 in worksheet cant give result why didnt its > samdhari mars having 15 points come forward and gave the result (even > though mars is also in 7th house cant give the result... but taking it > as samdhari its position and aspect arent to be considered). > Is the reason for above that they all are samdhari to lord of 12th > from B in this case too..(happens to be mercury lord of virgo 6th > house...aries asc.)? > > i hope i havent confused my question.. > > if you can answer whenever possible it would be great help. > > thanks/regards > harjeet > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 6, 2006 thanks very much for your reply Manu ji. So i just looked at the chart of Gaurav posted about query for marriage and career. His jupiter is strongest significator and lord of D too. I dont know if he is married or not but he shouldnt be as the dealy of saturn in his navamsa just got over. he is going through antra of rahu which is a samdhari to mercury having more than 12 points in the worksheet for house 7. if you have time and examine his chart.... jupiter antra should give marriage as its the most powerful significator for marriage ? correct me please if i am wrong... thanks / regards harjeet , " Manu Batura " <manubatura wrote: > > Dear harjeet, > > Marriage normally happens in strongest significator. In the chart, mo > is lord of D, placed in E and gets 21 strength points (highest). This > native should have a happy married life. But, focusing on your basic > query, yes for SD, we do not need to check aspects, but since, moon is > strongest here, marriage happened in Moon antra. > > Thanks & Regards, > Manu > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > Respected Ashji, > > native male born on : oct 27th 1974. 18:30 time, ahmedabad place. > > i attempted his chart and found out that marriage happened in moon > > antra which is the lord of D here. > > for marriage in house B(7th house) there are 4 planets viz. mars, > > venus, mercury and sun. so if all these planets would be samdhari to > > each other as they are in the same sign. now planet in the house B > > itself cant give result. so during the antras of all these planets the > > event of marriage wont occur.. but in antra of venus which has 14 > > points for house 7 in worksheet cant give result why didnt its > > samdhari mars having 15 points come forward and gave the result (even > > though mars is also in 7th house cant give the result... but taking it > > as samdhari its position and aspect arent to be considered). > > Is the reason for above that they all are samdhari to lord of 12th > > from B in this case too..(happens to be mercury lord of virgo 6th > > house...aries asc.)? > > > > i hope i havent confused my question.. > > > > if you can answer whenever possible it would be great help. > > > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 6, 2006 Dear Manu and Harjeet, Yes, Correct. Carefully check the status of Venus. Venus to Sun distance is 2.5 deg. Ve is SD to Me who is 6th lord. Here Venus is Karak both FK and NK and at the same time its LoB also. So here after delay due to Guru is over, antra of Ketu who is SD to Ve and then antra of Ve ran. Venus's status is spoilt. Ve might try to give some relation or some affair but it might not materialise. I don't know what are the facts. Harjeet can you say what happened with this native in antra of Venus? Did he have some relationship that would convert to marriage which did not? Next antra is that of Moon, and you have explained moon well on why it gives marriage. Cheers !!! Ash , " Manu Batura " <manubatura wrote: > > Dear harjeet, > > Marriage normally happens in strongest significator. In the chart, mo > is lord of D, placed in E and gets 21 strength points (highest). This > native should have a happy married life. But, focusing on your basic > query, yes for SD, we do not need to check aspects, but since, moon is > strongest here, marriage happened in Moon antra. > > Thanks & Regards, > Manu > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > Respected Ashji, > > native male born on : oct 27th 1974. 18:30 time, ahmedabad place. > > i attempted his chart and found out that marriage happened in moon > > antra which is the lord of D here. > > for marriage in house B(7th house) there are 4 planets viz. mars, > > venus, mercury and sun. so if all these planets would be samdhari to > > each other as they are in the same sign. now planet in the house B > > itself cant give result. so during the antras of all these planets the > > event of marriage wont occur.. but in antra of venus which has 14 > > points for house 7 in worksheet cant give result why didnt its > > samdhari mars having 15 points come forward and gave the result (even > > though mars is also in 7th house cant give the result... but taking it > > as samdhari its position and aspect arent to be considered). > > Is the reason for above that they all are samdhari to lord of 12th > > from B in this case too..(happens to be mercury lord of virgo 6th > > house...aries asc.)? > > > > i hope i havent confused my question.. > > > > if you can answer whenever possible it would be great help. > > > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 8, 2006 Respected Ashji, The native is my friend who used to live in my hometown ahmedabad. I am not in touch with him since 2001 jan when i left the place and dont have his contact number too. through my dad i came to know when he was married... so i dont know how was his venus antra. i know in ketu antra he used to like a girl which never materialized. he was very much interested in opposite sex and marriage eventhough his venus is within 3 degree of sun... so the quality of the result might suffer maybe? if its useful for study... his previous antra of mercury was very painful. he was severly infected by tuberclosis. i guess its the antra of 6th lord which also happens to be 3rd lord in the same degree with lagna lord and 8th lord mars ? thanks/regards harjeet , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Manu and Harjeet, > Yes, Correct. Carefully check the status of Venus. Venus to Sun > distance is 2.5 deg. Ve is SD to Me who is 6th lord. Here Venus is > Karak both FK and NK and at the same time its LoB also. So here > after delay due to Guru is over, antra of Ketu who is SD to Ve and > then antra of Ve ran. Venus's status is spoilt. Ve might try to > give some relation or some affair but it might not materialise. > I don't know what are the facts. Harjeet can you say what happened > with this native in antra of Venus? Did he have some relationship > that would convert to marriage which did not? > Next antra is that of Moon, and you have explained moon well on why > it gives marriage. > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > , " Manu Batura " > <manubatura@> wrote: > > > > Dear harjeet, > > > > Marriage normally happens in strongest significator. In the chart, > mo > > is lord of D, placed in E and gets 21 strength points (highest). > This > > native should have a happy married life. But, focusing on your > basic > > query, yes for SD, we do not need to check aspects, but since, > moon is > > strongest here, marriage happened in Moon antra. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Ashji, > > > native male born on : oct 27th 1974. 18:30 time, ahmedabad place. > > > i attempted his chart and found out that marriage happened in > moon > > > antra which is the lord of D here. > > > for marriage in house B(7th house) there are 4 planets viz. mars, > > > venus, mercury and sun. so if all these planets would be > samdhari to > > > each other as they are in the same sign. now planet in the > house B > > > itself cant give result. so during the antras of all these > planets the > > > event of marriage wont occur.. but in antra of venus which has 14 > > > points for house 7 in worksheet cant give result why didnt its > > > samdhari mars having 15 points come forward and gave the result > (even > > > though mars is also in 7th house cant give the result... but > taking it > > > as samdhari its position and aspect arent to be considered). > > > Is the reason for above that they all are samdhari to lord of > 12th > > > from B in this case too..(happens to be mercury lord of virgo 6th > > > house...aries asc.)? > > > > > > i hope i havent confused my question.. > > > > > > if you can answer whenever possible it would be great help. > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 10, 2006 Dear Harjeet, I hope everything is well as you have hardly contributed. I think you are doing well in your learnings of KAS. Let me answer your quetisons. 1) When Sa and Ra of Male aspect Ma of female then a female is more attracted to such a male. 2) When Male Venus aspects Female Mars then such a male is attracted to female. Now check the same in Rasi and navamsa and also map that sign over sign and lagna over lagna. Also overlap charts and see for friendship too. i.e .the combo of Suna and Moon. These are for very powerful attractions. These are like frequency harmonizers. Such couples have similar frequencies and have powerful attractions. Some correctins in your understanding as per mail below. 1) Do not see Mars of female aspecting Sa and Ra of Male. Its other way round. Sa and Ra of male aspecting Mars of female. 2) Mars is the barometer for female and Venus of male. We also check lagna and 7th relation and also from moon and sun. For males in addition we also check from Venus and 7th and for female charts we add even Mars and 7th lords. Also You should check Guru in the chart also. Say if Venus is spoilt but if Guru is aspecting it or conjoining it then it might check Venus to a good extent. Sometimes such things wont come out in the public. SAV between lagna and 7th should also be seen and this from moon and sun also. So like that all factors you should see to come to a proper conclusion. Cheers !!! Ash , " harjeet_bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > Respected members, > I have some doubts if anyone can help... these arent regarding timing. > Mars of female, aspected by Saturn or Rahu of male creates > attraction... but in this case who is attracted by whom ? > smiliarly when mars of female aspects rahu or saturn or venus of male > who is attracted by whom ? > mars is the barometer for morality for female... > say mars is conjunct saturn and rahu in navamsa... but the same mars > is in the trisamsa of jupiter sign.... how would it behave ? > i know there are other factors to be considered too before judging.. > but i wanted to know status of mars in the above scenario.... > thanks very much > regards > harjeet > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 11, 2006 Respected Ashji, First let me congratulate you, although late and last one... Computer at my job is broken so i cant access the internet frequently... hence couldnt participate. Thanks again for the detailed invaluable information.. always learning new and more doubts cleared by your reply. I cant remember ,... but in archives i think i had read reply by Krushnaji about situation of mars of female in the trishamsa of guru sign.. i am not sure of what i had read and cant recall and find it in the archives again as it is very tideous.. if you could throw some light on it. Also i have another question... Like saturn delays the matters of 3rd house from where it is situated... similarly there would always be a house 4th from where saturn is situated... say for eg.. saturn in 8th house it would be 10th from 11th house (here C taking B as 7th)... can we say house C has connection to house C in dealy regarding situation for 7th house as B... i hope my question is not ambiguous... smilarly if say lord of any houses A, B or C are in 4th from saturn.. can we say again that the connection for dealy is there. are points of the planets in 4th from saturn to be considered w.r.p.t saturn as 4;10 positioning ... I know i am making the mail longer by asking different questions.. but i have another one... the planet xyz situated in 12th house makes the house give better results whose lord that planet xyz is.... also the house xyz gives better result where lord of 12th is situated. that means if a planet of a house xyz is involved in parivartan yoga with the lord of 12th house then that house xyz gives better result. But the case might be different for the involvement of House No. 1 ie the lagna and 11th sthan with 12th sthan..? would 12th house lord hamper the result of lagna and 11th would decrease the results of 12th as 11th is 12th from 12th...?? please guide... thanks/regards Harjeet , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Harjeet, > I hope everything is well as you have hardly contributed. I think > you are doing well in your learnings of KAS. > > Let me answer your quetisons. > > 1) When Sa and Ra of Male aspect Ma of female then a female is more > attracted to such a male. > > 2) When Male Venus aspects Female Mars then such a male is attracted > to female. > > Now check the same in Rasi and navamsa and also map that sign over > sign and lagna over lagna. > > Also overlap charts and see for friendship too. i.e .the combo of > Suna and Moon. > > These are for very powerful attractions. These are like frequency > harmonizers. Such couples have similar frequencies and have > powerful attractions. > > Some correctins in your understanding as per mail below. > > 1) Do not see Mars of female aspecting Sa and Ra of Male. Its other > way round. Sa and Ra of male aspecting Mars of female. > > 2) Mars is the barometer for female and Venus of male. > > We also check lagna and 7th relation and also from moon and sun. > For males in addition we also check from Venus and 7th and for > female charts we add even Mars and 7th lords. > > Also You should check Guru in the chart also. Say if Venus is > spoilt but if Guru is aspecting it or conjoining it then it might > check Venus to a good extent. Sometimes such things wont come out > in the public. > > SAV between lagna and 7th should also be seen and this from moon and > sun also. > > So like that all factors you should see to come to a proper > conclusion. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > Respected members, > > I have some doubts if anyone can help... these arent regarding > timing. > > Mars of female, aspected by Saturn or Rahu of male creates > > attraction... but in this case who is attracted by whom ? > > smiliarly when mars of female aspects rahu or saturn or venus of > male > > who is attracted by whom ? > > mars is the barometer for morality for female... > > say mars is conjunct saturn and rahu in navamsa... but the same > mars > > is in the trisamsa of jupiter sign.... how would it behave ? > > i know there are other factors to be considered too before > judging.. > > but i wanted to know status of mars in the above scenario.... > > thanks very much > > regards > > harjeet > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 11, 2006 Dear Harjeet, Thank you for your kind words. I do remember the law given by Krushnaji about Mars being in Trishansa of Guru. The exact details on why I can assume and say but I do not wnat to say that now, but rather wait for the full lesson on all the D-Charts when Krushanji is ready to give it to us. Your Second point is that Sa as per your example in 8th house would delay 10th house matters, at the same time it would be in 10th house from 11th i.e. Hosue C for marriage house 7th as B. But here Sa's effect on house 11th cant be taken for considering delay. for delay as per my knowledge its got to be aspect or Sa owning a house. Therefor Sa in 5th house i.e in 4th place from A or 11th from B delays the event. Your third point. Partivartan is relative positioning of planets. 12th lord in 8th house and 8th lord in 12th house for example. Someone might say its Vipareet Raj Yog. As per KAS we are alredy considering so many things. For example, as per BAV we are consdering the yogs the 2 planets make in relation with each other being in 5:9. So depending on planets some may make a good yog and others might not. As per KAS we say that 8th house lord in 12th house means results of 8th house are enhanced and also the 2nd house which the planet rules barring sun and moon rulership who rule 1 house. Secondly 12th lord in 8th houes would mean the results of 8th house are enhanced. So better results can be expected and by results I mean quality. Then again, you add the Multiplication Factor to it too. So one can get a very clear picture and also specific one at that. Hope that helps, Cheers !!! Ash , " harjeet_bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > Respected Ashji, > First let me congratulate you, although late and last one... > Computer at my job is broken so i cant access the internet > frequently... hence couldnt participate. > Thanks again for the detailed invaluable information.. always > learning new and more doubts cleared by your reply. > I cant remember ,... but in archives i think i had read reply by > Krushnaji about situation of mars of female in the trishamsa of guru > sign.. i am not sure of what i had read and cant recall and find it > in the archives again as it is very tideous.. if you could throw > some light on it. > > > Also i have another question... > Like saturn delays the matters of 3rd house from where it is > situated... similarly there would always be a house 4th from where > saturn is situated... say for eg.. saturn in 8th house it would be > 10th from 11th house (here C taking B as 7th)... can we say house C > has connection to house C in dealy regarding situation for 7th house > as B... i hope my question is not ambiguous... smilarly if say lord > of any houses A, B or C are in 4th from saturn.. can we say again > that the connection for dealy is there. > are points of the planets in 4th from saturn to be considered > w.r.p.t saturn as 4;10 positioning ... > > I know i am making the mail longer by asking different questions.. > but i have another one... > the planet xyz situated in 12th house makes the house give better > results whose lord that planet xyz is.... > also the house xyz gives better result where lord of 12th is > situated. > that means if a planet of a house xyz is involved in parivartan yoga > with the lord of 12th house then that house xyz gives better result. > But the case might be different for the involvement of House No. 1 > ie the lagna and 11th sthan with 12th sthan..? > would 12th house lord hamper the result of lagna and 11th would > decrease the results of 12th as 11th is 12th from 12th...?? > please guide... > thanks/regards > Harjeet > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > I hope everything is well as you have hardly contributed. I think > > you are doing well in your learnings of KAS. > > > > Let me answer your quetisons. > > > > 1) When Sa and Ra of Male aspect Ma of female then a female is > more > > attracted to such a male. > > > > 2) When Male Venus aspects Female Mars then such a male is > attracted > > to female. > > > > Now check the same in Rasi and navamsa and also map that sign over > > sign and lagna over lagna. > > > > Also overlap charts and see for friendship too. i.e .the combo of > > Suna and Moon. > > > > These are for very powerful attractions. These are like frequency > > harmonizers. Such couples have similar frequencies and have > > powerful attractions. > > > > Some correctins in your understanding as per mail below. > > > > 1) Do not see Mars of female aspecting Sa and Ra of Male. Its > other > > way round. Sa and Ra of male aspecting Mars of female. > > > > 2) Mars is the barometer for female and Venus of male. > > > > We also check lagna and 7th relation and also from moon and sun. > > For males in addition we also check from Venus and 7th and for > > female charts we add even Mars and 7th lords. > > > > Also You should check Guru in the chart also. Say if Venus is > > spoilt but if Guru is aspecting it or conjoining it then it might > > check Venus to a good extent. Sometimes such things wont come out > > in the public. > > > > SAV between lagna and 7th should also be seen and this from moon > and > > sun also. > > > > So like that all factors you should see to come to a proper > > conclusion. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > --- In , " harjeet_bakshi " > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected members, > > > I have some doubts if anyone can help... these arent regarding > > timing. > > > Mars of female, aspected by Saturn or Rahu of male creates > > > attraction... but in this case who is attracted by whom ? > > > smiliarly when mars of female aspects rahu or saturn or venus of > > male > > > who is attracted by whom ? > > > mars is the barometer for morality for female... > > > say mars is conjunct saturn and rahu in navamsa... but the same > > mars > > > is in the trisamsa of jupiter sign.... how would it behave ? > > > i know there are other factors to be considered too before > > judging.. > > > but i wanted to know status of mars in the above scenario.... > > > thanks very much > > > regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 11, 2006 Respected Ashji, Thanks very much for the clarification. One of my query let me put again... 11th lord in 12th increases the results of the 11th house. similarly 12th lord in 11th increase the results of 11th house again. but here 12th house would suffer because taking 12th as B its lord goes in 12th from B i.e. 11th... similarly 12th would suffer when 11th lord (12th from B=12) goes to 12th house... for any house into consideration as B, association with the house or lord of the 12th from that house B spoils the results for that house B. is my understanding clear on the above scenario ? 11th would prosper as it has association with 12th, but again 12th would suffer as it is in association with the 12th from it i.e. 11th similarly i have confusion reagrding saturn which rules 2 consecutive houses.. whenever we take the house B which falls in aquarius... capricon becomes 12th from it. here B and 12th from B both are same... say as per eg Leo asc... saturn rules 6th and 7th houses. say saturn is in 2nd house and when we look at 7th house as B what can we say either lord of B is in A or lord of 12th from B is in A. in the first its not bad for house B as marriage.. but looking at the same picture at different angle... lord of 12th from B is in karak house A spoils it... or even if we say satrun is in scorpio 4th house whwhich happens to be D for B as 7th... i hope my question is clear... how to overcome this ambiguity? thanks again regards harjeet Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 11, 2006 Dear Harjeet, Please apply yourself. 12th lord going into 11th house means result of 11th house is enhanced. 12th lord going into 11th house means status of 12th house suffers which is karak for 5th house. So 5th house results might suffer but results of 11th house will get enhanced. Your other question on Sa ruling 2 adjacent houses i.e 2:12 and itself Sa is a natural malefic is given in some post. You can search for it. Cheers !!! Ash , " harjeet_bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > Respected Ashji, > Thanks very much for the clarification. > One of my query let me put again... > 11th lord in 12th increases the results of the 11th house. > similarly 12th lord in 11th increase the results of 11th house again. > but here 12th house would suffer because taking 12th as B its lord > goes in 12th from B i.e. 11th... > similarly 12th would suffer when 11th lord (12th from B=12) goes to > 12th house... > for any house into consideration as B, association with the house or > lord of the 12th from that house B spoils the results for that house B. > is my understanding clear on the above scenario ? > 11th would prosper as it has association with 12th, but again 12th > would suffer as it is in association with the 12th from it i.e. 11th > > similarly i have confusion reagrding saturn which rules 2 consecutive > houses.. whenever we take the house B which falls in aquarius... > capricon becomes 12th from it. here B and 12th from B both are same... > say as per eg Leo asc... saturn rules 6th and 7th houses. > say saturn is in 2nd house and when we look at 7th house as B what can > we say either lord of B is in A or lord of 12th from B is in A. > in the first its not bad for house B as marriage.. but looking at the > same picture at different angle... lord of 12th from B is in karak > house A spoils it... or even if we say satrun is in scorpio 4th house > whwhich happens to be D for B as 7th... > i hope my question is clear... > how to overcome this ambiguity? > > thanks again > regards > harjeet > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
