KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching

April 14, 2010

Dear Adith ji,

It is indeed very difficult to classify Karma according to the time in which

effects are worked out.

Regards,

TW

Theory of Karma by Ven. Mahasi Sayadaw

1. Immediately Effective (ditthadhammavedaniya) Karma- in the present lifetime

2. Subsequently Effective (uppapajjavedaniya) Karma- in the immediately

following lifetime

3. Indefinitely Effective (aparapariyavedaniya) Karma-- in lifetimes two or more

in the future

4. Defunct or Ineffective (ahosi) Karma- kamma whose effects have ripened

already

Immediately Effective Karma is that which is experienced in this present life.

According to the Abhidhamma one does both good and evil during the javana

process (thought-impulsion), which usually lasts for seven thought-moments. The

effect of the first thought-moment, being the weakest, one may reap in this life

itself. This is called the Immediately Effective Karma.

If it does not operate in this life, it is called `Defunct or Ineffective'

Karma.

The next weakest is the seventh thought-moment. Its effect one may reap in the

subsequence birth. This is called `Subsequently Effective' Karma.

This, too, is called Defunct or Ineffective Karma if it does not operate in the

second birth. The effect of the intermediate thought-moments may take place at

any time until one attains Nibbana. This type of Karma is known as `Indefinitely

Effective' Karma.

No one, not even the Buddhas and Arahantas, is exempt from this class of Karma

which one may experience in the course of one's wandering in Samsara. There is

no special class of Karma known as Defunct or Ineffective, but when such actions

that should produce their effects in this life or in a subsequent life do not

operate, they are termed Defunct or Ineffective Karma.

, " adith kasinath.g.k " <gkadithkasinath

wrote:

>

> Dear Tinwin ji,

>

> Thanks for your valuable inputs.

>

> But I realise it is not so easy to understand about the Karma !

>

> With Regards

> Adith

>

> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:06 AM, TW <tw853 wrote:

>

> >

> > Dear Adith ji,

> > 1. Everything in one's life may be said as predestined at the moment of

> > birth by past karma for the possibility of cent percent accuracy in the

> > astrological prediction which is not the case in practice. Because please

> > note " it may be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the

> > effects of his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are

> > in no way directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold

> > the effects of his Karma. "

> > 2. " If the present life is totally conditioned or wholly controlled by our

> > past actions, then certainly Karma is tantamount to fatalism or determinism

> > or predestination. If this were true, free will would be an absurdity. Life

> > would be purely mechanistic, not much different from a machine. Such a

> > fatalistic doctrine is not the Buddhist law of Karma…Karma does not

> > necessarily mean past actions. It embraces both past and present deeds.

> > Hence in one sense, we are the result of what we were; we will be the result

> > of what we are… The inequality that exists among mankind is the result of

> > our own past actions and our own present doings (esp viriya 'effort' and

> > panna 'wisdom'). We ourselves are responsible for our own. "

> > -Ven. Mahasi Sayadaw (The Theory of Karma)

> > 3. In the Upajjhatthana Sutta (AN 5.57), the Lord Buddha states:

> > " I am the owner of my karma. I inherit my karma. I am born of my karma. I

> > am related to my karma. I live supported by my karma. Whatever karma I

> > create, whether good or evil, that I shall inherit. "

> > Regards,

> > TW

> >

> > <%40>, " adith

> > kasinath.g.k " <gkadithkasinath@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear TW ji,

> > >

> > > Thanks for the valuable points by our Guruji.

> > >

> > > But I ever have teh following question in mind unanswered.

> > >

> > > When all is destined in one life, he can not be responsible for his deeds

> > in

> > > the present life.

> > > For example, if one happens to be a bad person in all activities due to

> > his

> > > past bad deeds, he may not be in a position to do any good deeds in his

> > > present life. In this case, in his next births also we can expect him to

> > be

> > > a bad human only. So how can one is expected to do any good deeds in his

> > > birth?

> > >

> > > can you enlighten me on this?

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Adith

> > >

> > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:50 PM, TW <tw853@> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > *Guruji KSK's Quotations on Karma, Destiny*

> > > >

> > > > Chances, luck or misfortune are governed by the law of Causation or

> > Karma.

> > > > God is neither partial or unjust, and everything happens according to

> > one's

> > > > action in the past birth.

> > > >

> > > > When we think we understand that the theory " Karma and Incarnation "

> > alone

> > > > can convince.--- what we have to enjoy is undoubtedly predestined. I

> > cannot

> > > > understand how the judgment of God can be, in any manner, modified or

> > > > nullified by our efforts.---

> > > >

> > > > Everything is predestined.---None can dodge fate.--- If one can change

> > the

> > > > event by one's will, then astrology has no place.

> > > >

> > > > Karma can be divided broadly into three kinds: Dhruda (fixed) Karma

> > that

> > > > one has committed an inexcusable mistake or crime in the previous

> > birth,

> > > > Dhruda - Adhruda (fixed/non-fixed) Karma that one would have committed

> > an

> > > > excusable mistake in the previous birth, and Adhruda (non-fixed) Karma

> > that

> > > > the crime committed may be negligible…The majority of people commit

> > > > excusable mistakes called Dhruda – Adhruda Karma. Therefore Shanti will

> > be

> > > > done by them with or without their knowledge and they will not

> > ultimately

> > > > suffer… Just like one has no choice about his birth time, place and his

> > > > parents, so also there is nothing left in one's hands. Everything is

> > > > pre-destined. None can change it. Then only one can use this

> > > > science…Astrology is a science. It needs further research and

> > confirmation.

> > > > There is no use for the word " Likely " . Everything is a certainty… It

> > may

> > > > be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects

> > of

> > > > his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no

> > way

> > > > directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the

> > effects

> > > > of his Karma.

> > > >

> > > > <%40>,

> > Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Prasanna,

> > > > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â As per K.P.,and

> > nobody/nothing

> > > > can change human destiny/fate,once written by Brahma soon after one's

> > > > birth...your quote of Nacchiketa is of a very rare and extra-ordinary

> > > > case...

> > > > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Guruji KSK had predicted

> > the

> > > > death of a retired senior retired Govt. Official who requested him

> > > > toÂ predit even the Tome of his death...which the worthy disbelieved

> > > > totally,and in order to prov KSK wrong,made arrangements to sith in his

> > lawn

> > > > under a Garden Umbrella with a Thermos Flask full of coffee to wait out

> > well

> > > > past the predited thr Time of Death...but alas,from the corner of his

> > eyes

> > > > he was watching his dear grandson play on the verendah...and to his

> > great

> > > > horror he saw him walking baxckwards towards the garden and to a fall

> > on the

> > > > ground below and that too backwards...in a desperate attempt at

> > preventing

> > > > him from walking towards his certain fall,he made a dash for him,his

> > foot

> > > > got stuck in the crossbar of the easychair inÂ which he was seated and

> > he

> > > > fellÂ down,hitting his head on the ston steps with a resounding

> > thud,and he

> > > > died instantly,and to the surprise of all, the time was exactly what

> > KSK had

> > > > > predicted days in advance...!

> > > > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â The above has ben

> > > > narrated in his original Books...and prove that Astroloby is a Vedanga

> > and

> > > > is born out of the Karma Theory...what is destined WILL take

> > place...come

> > > > what may...Â !

> > > > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â This also proves the

> > > > accuracy of K.P. and Krishnamurthi Ayanamsa...

> > > > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Another " live " proof

> > can

> > > > be had by anyone,if he so desires :

> > > > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â First have a Birth

> > Chart

> > > > correctly cast by a K.P. Astrologer after the necessary corrections(if

> > > > needed),are made...

> > > > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Then,pl. note the

> > exact

> > > > time at which one gets a cut or has a fall with blood oozing out of the

> > > > wound...

> > > > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â To your great

> > chagrin,

> > > > the sublords of the IVth,VIIIth & XIIth cusps,will be the

> > Dasa/Bhukti/Anthra

> > > > lords of the persons Dasa running at the time... !

> > > > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Pl. check and

> > > > inform,this is a " love " proof...what more is required ?

> > > > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â With best wishes,

> > > > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Yogesh Lajmi.

> > > > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

> > > > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@

> > > >

> > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > > Cc: ssagar86@

> > > >

> > > > > Received: Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 6:48 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > Â

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected sagarji,

> > > > > your views seem to be fatalistic. Human life is just a tiny part of

> > this

> > > > vast BRAMHANDA.So many factors effect human life that it is not

> > possible to

> > > > predict what will happen in future. Astrologers can only in some way

> > study

> > > > the trend or tendencies.With the gene therapy even diffective genes can

> > be

> > > > replaced, which instigates people to go for wrong action causing wrong

> > > > result. It is said person doing PAPA will get his due result in this

> > KALI

> > > > ERA itself. Instances may be found where even Prarabdha was changed.

> > Story

> > > > of NACHIKETA is known to all. Story of SAVITRI is alsoÂ known to all.

> > It

> > > > depends on the personÂ who has been sufferring. In fact in KALI ERA

> > people

> > > > do not have patience or faith that mountains can be moved.Hence no

> > serious

> > > > effort is done to change the destiny.Â Hence with all due respect to

> > you

> > > > please give your opinion in this regard.

> > > > > Â

> > > > > Prasanna

> > > > > Â

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in>

> > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching

> > > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 8:17 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > Â

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Friends,

> > > > >

> > > > > ASTROLOGER TELLS WHAT MAY HAPPEN, BUT GOD ONLY CAN TELL WHAT EXACTLY

> > WILL

> > > > HAPPEN.

> > > > >

> > > > > Naidu KP

> > > > >

> > > > > K. P. Naidu,

> > > > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,

> > > > > Nowroji Road,

> > > > > Maharanipeta,

> > > > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.

> > > > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>

> > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching

> > > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 12:03 AM

> > > > >

> > > > > Â

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Adith

> > > > > MY first conference attend in Feb 1989 at Cuttack.

> > > > > i have presented three papers and speak on one important subject

> > called "

> > > > Everything is predestined and no one can change or alter it , even the

> > > > Creator lord Brahma "

> > > > > We astrologers can predict the events what will happen, neither we

> > can

> > > > change or alter it.

> > > > > I have quoted " yatha raja , tatha praja " likewise " yatha graha tatha

> > > > phala " .

> > > > > Almost all astrologer appreciated my speech, later Mr.Subramaniam

> > asked

> > > > me " ur speech truly marvelous, but can u answer for one doubt " can u

> > run in

> > > > a front of running vehicle by assuming that everything predestined "

> > > > > my answer was " if my fate is predestined to met with accident i will

> > run

> > > > in front of a running bus, if my fate is not predestined for accident

> > even

> > > > though i run in front of a running bus , driver will try to rescue me

> > and he

> > > > will turn his vehicle which will kill some which has predestined is one

> > > > thing on the other hand my mind will not permit me to run in front of

> > > > running bus " .

> > > > > All astrologers are only a reader what will happen in the future.

> > > > > in fact i wont match guna kuta , i will match the girl and boy chart

> > > > weather their marriage has predestined or not.

> > > > > I use to predict few points of the girl/boy as per their charts.It

> > > > happened too.

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Sahhasra Saagara

> > > > >

> > > > > Senthil athi_ram >

> > > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > > Fri, 9 April, 2010 9:58:28 PM

> > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching

> > > > >

> > > > > Â

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Adith,

> > > > >

> > > > > Â

> > > > >

> > > > > Suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along

> > with

> > > > their sonâ€™s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an

> > > > astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there

> > is

> > > > no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. So what

> > is

> > > > the use for matching the charts? Actually you have to find firstly

> > whether

> > > > as per his destiny his Girlâ€™s chart is available among the 10 charts

> > are

> > > > not? If yes, that is it else ask them to bring any other set of charts

> > to

> > > > find his Girl (written as per his destiny) that is all. I have written

> > an

> > > > article based on my past failure case (job offers) regarding â€œwhich

> > > > company he will join?â€ in KP annual number 2010 you may refer it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Â

> > > > >

> > > > > Also during my study on Driving license one of the person who failed

> > in

> > > > the 1st road test asked me the following (refer Quiz-8). He was ready

> > to

> > > > attend ONLY ON TEST (no more test & the person was having urge etc.)

> > which

> > > > he should get PASS. Now you have to tell which date/time he should

> > attend

> > > > the test so that he will get pass on that day/time. You have to

> > guarantee

> > > > that he will get appointment on that date/time (there is a chance he

> > can

> > > > purposely get appointment for some other date/time or the date may be

> > > > already booked by many candidate and full etc), the test should be

> > conducted

> > > > on that date/time (it should not be declared holiday or cancelled due

> > to any

> > > > reason etc) and also he should attend the test on that date/time

> > without

> > > > fail (not absent due to any reasons or there is a chance he can

> > purposely

> > > > not to attend test on that date/time etc) and he should get PASS.

> > > > >

> > > > > Â

> > > > >

> > > > > Are you ready to give all the above correct? Any one failure is

> > > > sufficient to say that our prediction is WRONG.

> > > > >

> > > > > Â

> > > > >

> > > > > So what is our (astrologerâ€™s) role? I personally believe that we

> > are

> > > > the tools through us some message is passed on the native/quarent that

> > is

> > > > it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Â

> > > > > The above are my personal views and not to criticize you or anybody.

> > > > > Â

> > > > > GOOD LUCK!!

> > > > > Â

> > > > > D.Senthil

> > > > > Â

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Fri, 4/9/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>

> > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching

> > > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > > Friday, April 9, 2010, 12:49 AM

> > > > >

> > > > > Â

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sagar ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I accept your points. . But if it is destined, whats the role of

> > > > Astrologer in matching? Why should we match?

> > > > >

> > > > > Does any astrologer play role in fixing the match ? or helping to

> > find

> > > > the best match?

> > > > >

> > > > > I hope there must some logic behind in our old says..

> > > > >

> > > > > As per the Astrologers guidelines if anyone follows, the incidents

> > can

> > > > not be stopped but the impact can be reduced. Similarly, in a chart if

> > he

> > > > has a poor significations for a happy marital life, if he is marched to

> > a

> > > > better one, there wont be permanent separation but misunderstanding or

> > > > temporary separation during the unfavorable period.

> > > > > Pls give your views on the above.

> > > > >

> > > > > With Regards

> > > > > Adith

> > > > >

> > > > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>

> > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Â

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi

> > > > > neither guna nor kuta will helpful in matching of boy-girl horoscope

> > as

> > > > it is predestined and he/she should get marry what has already destined

> > in

> > > > their charts.

> > > > > i remember one girl chartÂ in which i had predicted short marital

> > life

> > > > as well as i had predicted diseases of her husband by anlysing her

> > chart.

> > > > Later girl married and lead marital life for few years and her faced

> > health

> > > > problem resulted in his death.

> > > >

> > > > > both in hindu predictive as well as in kp for marital life some

> > > > combination and significance has given.

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Sahhasra Saagara

> > > > >

> > > > > Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >

> > > > >

> > > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > >

> > > > > Cc: Wyomesh wyomeshd >

> > > > > Thu, 8 April, 2010 8:14:18 PM

> > > > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching

> > > > >

> > > > > Â

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Wyomesh,

> > > > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Yoni Guna has been taken

> > > > care of in KPDP, for your information, under compatibility...!

> > > > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â With best wishes,

> > > > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Yogesh Lajmi.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Wed, 7/4/10, Wyomesh wyomeshd > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Wyomesh wyomeshd >

> > > > > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching

> > > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > >

> > > > > Received: Wednesday, 7 April, 2010, 1:59 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > Â

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello

> > > > >

> > > > > I would like to add here something... .

> > > > > It is very important to see YONI GUNA. Suppose male YONI is GAU (cow)

> > > > > and Female's Yoni is VYAGHRA ( LION)... Both are hard enemies. So,

> > Even

> > > > on matching perfect can not give satisfactory married life.

> > > > >

> > > > > So we should always look for traditional rules with KP.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you

> > > > >

> > > > > @gro ups.com, " kadavasalramani "

> > <kadavasalramani@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Sri Adithj,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > KPDP Rules have been framed by Shri K.P.Kuppuganapathi, disciple of

> > > > late Guruji, Sri KSK.

> > > > > > It is like Dasavidha Porutham of traditional astrology, modified

> > > > according to KP Astrology of Sub Rule. There are 11 or 12 items for

> > matching

> > > > the horoscopes of bride and bridegroom, and given marks on percentage.

> > In

> > > > this item 10 is given more importance which states whether the couple

> > will

> > > > lead a happy married life with their present Dasa Bhukthi. In this

> > there is

> > > > no matching of doshas including Mars, or Kalathra Dosha, Sun Dosha,

> > Saturn

> > > > Dosha etc. It is said that this KPDP Rules for matching 2 horoscopes

> > > > according to KP system.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > K.S.V.Ramani

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > adith kasinath.g.k

> > > > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > > > Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:02 AM

> > > > > > KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear friends,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Can you please elaborate the actual rules that are being followed

> > in

> > > > the KPDP in respect to Marriage matching as per KP.?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also I like to know the rules were fixed by whom?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I hope this is being given in some sw.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I will be obliged to get these details

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > > Adith

> > > > > >

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April 15, 2010

Dear Suna ji,Thanks for your valuable explanation.So kind of you.You mean to say that one will be free to do according to the present sources available or the effort he himself takes to do it. I agree with this to a great extent. But if he is not destined astrologically, he may not succeed in his effort.

For instance, a boy if he tries hard to get score , he can not if his chart and periods do not support. But as you said, I agree as follows:For instance, if one takes up his decision to do or no to a work according to his own thought or by some one's advice, his current deeds are controlled .He may escape from doing a wrong deed as per the past Karma.

When no vehicles were invented, if a man those days has the significations of 4,11 he will get a cart or similar to that. After the inventions of the Vehicles, one will get the bike or car etc.,. It means one could be influenced with the present available sources. Similarly, one will do his deeds according to his present situation and his mind set and effort. If he is a person with any past bitter experience in any event, business, when his similar bad time comes again, he will take his decision vary cautiously sothat the impact will be reduced , though not avoided fully. So he has the control.

Similarly in the present life, one has good contacts with gurus, good astrologers, well wishers , even a person with bad characters is guided properly and does some good deeds. In those days, in a joint family where there will be a Head (very old experienced person) who will lead the total family members. Everyone has to act according to his advice only. There the percentage of failures, wrong deeds were greatly reduced. Though one of the family member who has the tendency to do bad events will be under control. But once that Head passes away, the total family is collapsed and splitted. Then as there is no guidance, they act act as per the destiny without any control and face the troubles accordingly.

If a man has to meet with an accident in a particular moment, he can not escape, that is is his destiny. But as per his own thoughts or some one's advise , if he is wearing a Helmet while traveling, the impact of injury is reduced greatly. This is not conneted to karma, I hope.

There the role of advisors or the self control plays role. Hence the strength of the Lagna is good to think over or decide or the influence of the others on one will also lead him. Similarly, in the marriage matching also, the effort of the Astrologers MAY HAVE the control?

The above are my personal points only.Your valuable inputs are welcome, as you are all much experienced person.Thanks and REgardsAdith On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Sunaparantha Kalyan <sunaparantha wrote:

Dear Adith ji,I also wish to add some ideas for your doubt on Kamma.

If a person had done any good

deeds or bad deeds in his previous birth, and if he has not finished his Karma

for rebirth, he may receive passport to the next birth. Sometimes he might have

low marks in his last examination in his previous birth, but enough level for a

pass, he may come back to the universe to complete his lost subject and for

high marks to finish his journey of life. So everyone must understand this fact

of completing his weak subjects and get the highest mark rate for a pass.

This is a very simple

interpretation of Kamma.

If a man climbs to the third

floor of a building, it is undeniable true that his arriving to third floor is

a result of his past action (Kamma) that is, WALKING up the stairs. And having arrived there, it is impossible

for him to reach out and touch the ground with his hand, or drive a car up and

down there. Obviously this is because he has gone up to the third floor. Or,

having arrived at the third floor, whether he is too exhausted to continue is

also related to having walked up the stairs. His arrival there, the things he

is able to do there and the situation he is likely to encounter, are all

certainly related to the OLD KAMMA of

having walked up the stairs. But exactly which action he will perform, his

reactions to the situations which arise there, whether he will take a rest,

walk on, or walk back down the stairs and out of that building, are all matters

which he can decide for himself in that PRESENT moment, for which he will also

reap the results. Even though the action of walking up the stairs may still be

influencing him (for example, with his strength sapped he may be unable to

function efficiently in any given situation), whether he decides to give in to

that tiredness or try to overcome it, are all matters which he can decide for

himself in the present moment.

Therefore OLD KAMMA should be

understood in its relation to the whole cause and effect process. In terms of

ethical practice, to understand the cause and effect process is to be able to

learn from Old Kamma, understanding the situation at hand, and to skillfully

make a plan of action for improving and correcting the future.

Kalyan

TW <tw853

Wed, 14 April, 2010 9:06:02 AM Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching

Dear Adith ji,

1. Everything in one's life may be said as predestined at the moment of birth by past karma for the possibility of cent percent accuracy in the astrological prediction which is not the case in practice. Because please note " it may be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects of his Karma. "

2. " If the present life is totally conditioned or wholly controlled by our past actions, then certainly Karma is tantamount to fatalism or determinism or predestination. If this were true, free will would be an absurdity. Life would be purely mechanistic, not much different from a machine. Such a fatalistic doctrine is not the Buddhist law of Karma…Karma does not necessarily mean past actions. It embraces both past and present deeds. Hence in one sense, we are the result of what we were; we will be the result of what we are… The inequality that exists among mankind is the result of our own past actions and our own present doings (esp viriya 'effort' and panna 'wisdom'). We ourselves are responsible for our own. "

-Ven. Mahasi Sayadaw (The Theory of Karma)

3. In the Upajjhatthana Sutta (AN 5.57), the Lord Buddha states:

" I am the owner of my karma. I inherit my karma. I am born of my karma. I am related to my karma. I live supported by my karma. Whatever karma I create, whether good or evil, that I shall inherit. "

Regards,

TW

@gro ups.com, " adith kasinath.g.k " <gkadithkasinath@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear TW ji,

>

> Thanks for the valuable points by our Guruji.

>

> But I ever have teh following question in mind unanswered.

>

> When all is destined in one life, he can not be responsible for his deeds in

> the present life.

> For example, if one happens to be a bad person in all activities due to his

> past bad deeds, he may not be in a position to do any good deeds in his

> present life. In this case, in his next births also we can expect him to be

> a bad human only. So how can one is expected to do any good deeds in his

> birth?

>

> can you enlighten me on this?

>

> Regards

> Adith

>

> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:50 PM, TW <tw853 wrote:

>

> >

> > *Guruji KSK's Quotations on Karma, Destiny*

> >

> > Chances, luck or misfortune are governed by the law of Causation or Karma.

> > God is neither partial or unjust, and everything happens according to one's

> > action in the past birth.

> >

> > When we think we understand that the theory " Karma and Incarnation " alone

> > can convince.--- what we have to enjoy is undoubtedly predestined. I cannot

> > understand how the judgment of God can be, in any manner, modified or

> > nullified by our efforts.---

> >

> > Everything is predestined. ---None can dodge fate.--- If one can change the

> > event by one's will, then astrology has no place.

> >

> > Karma can be divided broadly into three kinds: Dhruda (fixed) Karma that

> > one has committed an inexcusable mistake or crime in the previous birth,

> > Dhruda - Adhruda (fixed/non-fixed) Karma that one would have committed an

> > excusable mistake in the previous birth, and Adhruda (non-fixed) Karma that

> > the crime committed may be negligible…The majority of people commit

> > excusable mistakes called Dhruda – Adhruda Karma. Therefore Shanti will be

> > done by them with or without their knowledge and they will not ultimately

> > suffer… Just like one has no choice about his birth time, place and his

> > parents, so also there is nothing left in one's hands. Everything is

> > pre-destined. None can change it. Then only one can use this

> > science…Astrology is a science. It needs further research and confirmation.

> > There is no use for the word " Likely " . Everything is a certainty… It may

> > be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of

> > his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way

> > directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects

> > of his Karma.

> >

> > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Prasanna,

> > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â As per K.P.,and nobody/nothing

> > can change human destiny/fate, once written by Brahma soon after one's

> > birth...your quote of Nacchiketa is of a very rare and extra-ordinary

> > case...

> > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Guruji KSK had predicted the

> > death of a retired senior retired Govt. Official who requested him

> > toÂ predit even the Tome of his death...which the worthy disbelieved

> > totally,and in order to prov KSK wrong,made arrangements to sith in his lawn

> > under a Garden Umbrella with a Thermos Flask full of coffee to wait out well

> > past the predited thr Time of Death...but alas,from the corner of his eyes

> > he was watching his dear grandson play on the verendah...and to his great

> > horror he saw him walking baxckwards towards the garden and to a fall on the

> > ground below and that too backwards... in a desperate attempt at preventing

> > him from walking towards his certain fall,he made a dash for him,his foot

> > got stuck in the crossbar of the easychair inÂ which he was seated and he

> > fellÂ down,hitting his head on the ston steps with a resounding thud,and he

> > died instantly,and to the surprise of all, the time was exactly what KSK had

> > > predicted days in advance...!

> > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â The above has ben

> > narrated in his original Books...and prove that Astroloby is a Vedanga and

> > is born out of the Karma Theory...what is destined WILL take place...come

> > what may...Â !

> > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â This also proves the

> > accuracy of K.P. and Krishnamurthi Ayanamsa...

> > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Another " live " proof can

> > be had by anyone,if he so desires :

> > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â First have a Birth Chart

> > correctly cast by a K.P. Astrologer after the necessary corrections( if

> > needed),are made...

> > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Then,pl. note the exact

> > time at which one gets a cut or has a fall with blood oozing out of the

> > wound...

> > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â To your great chagrin,

> > the sublords of the IVth,VIIIth & XIIth cusps,will be the Dasa/Bhukti/ Anthra

> > lords of the persons Dasa running at the time... !

> > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Pl. check and

> > inform,this is a " love " proof...what more is required ?

> > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â With best wishes,

> > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Yogesh Lajmi.

> > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

> > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

> > >

> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@ wrote:

> > >

> > > prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@

> >

> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching

> > > @gro ups.com

> > > Cc: ssagar86@

> >

> > > Received: Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 6:48 PM

> > >

> > > Â

> > >

> > > Respected sagarji,

> > > your views seem to be fatalistic. Human life is just a tiny part of this

> > vast BRAMHANDA.So many factors effect human life that it is not possible to

> > predict what will happen in future. Astrologers can only in some way study

> > the trend or tendencies.With the gene therapy even diffective genes can be

> > replaced, which instigates people to go for wrong action causing wrong

> > result. It is said person doing PAPA will get his due result in this KALI

> > ERA itself. Instances may be found where even Prarabdha was changed. Story

> > of NACHIKETA is known to all. Story of SAVITRI is alsoÂ known to all. It

> > depends on the personÂ who has been sufferring. In fact in KALI ERA people

> > do not have patience or faith that mountains can be moved.Hence no serious

> > effort is done to change the destiny.Â Hence with all due respect to you

> > please give your opinion in this regard.

> > > Â

> > > Prasanna

> > > Â

> >

> > >

> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

> > >

> > > K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in>

> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching

> > > @gro ups.com

> > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 8:17 PM

> > >

> > > Â

> > >

> > > Dear Friends,

> > >

> > > ASTROLOGER TELLS WHAT MAY HAPPEN, BUT GOD ONLY CAN TELL WHAT EXACTLY WILL

> > HAPPEN.

> > >

> > > Naidu KP

> > >

> > > K. P. Naidu,

> > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,

> > > Nowroji Road,

> > > Maharanipeta,

> > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.

> > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.

> > >

> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

> > >

> > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>

> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching

> > > @gro ups.com

> > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 12:03 AM

> > >

> > > Â

> > >

> > > Dear Adith

> > > MY first conference attend in Feb 1989 at Cuttack.

> > > i have presented three papers and speak on one important subject called "

> > Everything is predestined and no one can change or alter it , even the

> > Creator lord Brahma "

> > > We astrologers can predict the events what will happen, neither we can

> > change or alter it.

> > > I have quoted " yatha raja , tatha praja " likewise " yatha graha tatha

> > phala " .

> > > Almost all astrologer appreciated my speech, later Mr.Subramaniam asked

> > me " ur speech truly marvelous, but can u answer for one doubt " can u run in

> > a front of running vehicle by assuming that everything predestined "

> > > my answer was " if my fate is predestined to met with accident i will run

> > in front of a running bus, if my fate is not predestined for accident even

> > though i run in front of a running bus , driver will try to rescue me and he

> > will turn his vehicle which will kill some which has predestined is one

> > thing on the other hand my mind will not permit me to run in front of

> > running bus " .

> > > All astrologers are only a reader what will happen in the future.

> > > in fact i wont match guna kuta , i will match the girl and boy chart

> > weather their marriage has predestined or not.

> > > I use to predict few points of the girl/boy as per their charts.It

> > happened too.

> > > Regards

> > > Sahhasra Saagara

> > >

> > > Senthil athi_ram >

> > > @gro ups.com

> > > Fri, 9 April, 2010 9:58:28 PM

> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching

> > >

> > > Â

> > >

> > > Dear Adith,

> > >

> > > Â

> > >

> > > Suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along with

> > their sonâ€™s horoscope to find the match for their son. Now as an

> > astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there is

> > no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. So what is

> > the use for matching the charts? Actually you have to find firstly whether

> > as per his destiny his Girlâ€™s chart is available among the 10 charts are

> > not? If yes, that is it else ask them to bring any other set of charts to

> > find his Girl (written as per his destiny) that is all. I have written an

> > article based on my past failure case (job offers) regarding â€œwhich

> > company he will join?â€ in KP annual number 2010 you may refer it.

> > >

> > > Â

> > >

> > > Also during my study on Driving license one of the person who failed in

> > the 1st road test asked me the following (refer Quiz-8). He was ready to

> > attend ONLY ON TEST (no more test & the person was having urge etc.) which

> > he should get PASS. Now you have to tell which date/time he should attend

> > the test so that he will get pass on that day/time. You have to guarantee

> > that he will get appointment on that date/time (there is a chance he can

> > purposely get appointment for some other date/time or the date may be

> > already booked by many candidate and full etc), the test should be conducted

> > on that date/time (it should not be declared holiday or cancelled due to any

> > reason etc) and also he should attend the test on that date/time without

> > fail (not absent due to any reasons or there is a chance he can purposely

> > not to attend test on that date/time etc) and he should get PASS.

> > >

> > > Â

> > >

> > > Are you ready to give all the above correct? Any one failure is

> > sufficient to say that our prediction is WRONG.

> > >

> > > Â

> > >

> > > So what is our (astrologerâ€™s) role? I personally believe that we are

> > the tools through us some message is passed on the native/quarent that is

> > it.

> > >

> > > Â

> > > The above are my personal views and not to criticize you or anybody.

> > > Â

> > > GOOD LUCK!!

> > > Â

> > > D.Senthil

> > > Â

> > >

> > > --- On Fri, 4/9/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>

> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching

> > > @gro ups.com

> > > Friday, April 9, 2010, 12:49 AM

> > >

> > > Â

> > >

> > > Dear Sagar ji,

> > >

> > > I accept your points. . But if it is destined, whats the role of

> > Astrologer in matching? Why should we match?

> > >

> > > Does any astrologer play role in fixing the match ? or helping to find

> > the best match?

> > >

> > > I hope there must some logic behind in our old says..

> > >

> > > As per the Astrologers guidelines if anyone follows, the incidents can

> > not be stopped but the impact can be reduced. Similarly, in a chart if he

> > has a poor significations for a happy marital life, if he is marched to a

> > better one, there wont be permanent separation but misunderstanding or

> > temporary separation during the unfavorable period.

> > > Pls give your views on the above.

> > >

> > > With Regards

> > > Adith

> > >

> > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

> > >

> > > Â

> > >

> > > Hi

> > > neither guna nor kuta will helpful in matching of boy-girl horoscope as

> > it is predestined and he/she should get marry what has already destined in

> > their charts.

> > > i remember one girl chartÂ in which i had predicted short marital life

> > as well as i had predicted diseases of her husband by anlysing her chart.

> > Later girl married and lead marital life for few years and her faced health

> > problem resulted in his death.

> >

> > > both in hindu predictive as well as in kp for marital life some

> > combination and significance has given.

> > > Regards

> > > Sahhasra Saagara

> > >

> > > Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >

> > >

> > > @gro ups.com

> > >

> > > Cc: Wyomesh wyomeshd >

> > > Thu, 8 April, 2010 8:14:18 PM

> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching

> > >

> > > Â

> > >

> > > Dear Wyomesh,

> > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Yoni Guna has been taken

> > care of in KPDP, for your information, under compatibility. ..!

> > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â With best wishes,

> > > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Yogesh Lajmi.

> >

> > >

> > > --- On Wed, 7/4/10, Wyomesh wyomeshd > wrote:

> > >

> > > Wyomesh wyomeshd >

> > > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching

> > > @gro ups.com

> > >

> > > Received: Wednesday, 7 April, 2010, 1:59 PM

> > >

> > > Â

> > >

> > > Hello

> > >

> > > I would like to add here something... .

> > > It is very important to see YONI GUNA. Suppose male YONI is GAU (cow)

> > > and Female's Yoni is VYAGHRA ( LION)... Both are hard enemies. So, Even

> > on matching perfect can not give satisfactory married life.

> > >

> > > So we should always look for traditional rules with KP.

> > >

> > > Thank you

> > >

> > > @gro ups.com, " kadavasalramani " <kadavasalramani@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sri Adithj,

> > > >

> > > > KPDP Rules have been framed by Shri K.P.Kuppuganapathi, disciple of

> > late Guruji, Sri KSK.

> > > > It is like Dasavidha Porutham of traditional astrology, modified

> > according to KP Astrology of Sub Rule. There are 11 or 12 items for matching

> > the horoscopes of bride and bridegroom, and given marks on percentage. In

> > this item 10 is given more importance which states whether the couple will

> > lead a happy married life with their present Dasa Bhukthi. In this there is

> > no matching of doshas including Mars, or Kalathra Dosha, Sun Dosha, Saturn

> > Dosha etc. It is said that this KPDP Rules for matching 2 horoscopes

> > according to KP system.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > K.S.V.Ramani

> > > > -

> > > > adith kasinath.g.k

> > > > @gro ups.com

> > > > Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:02 AM

> > > > KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching

> > > >

> > > > Dear friends,

> > > >

> > > > Can you please elaborate the actual rules that are being followed in

> > the KPDP in respect to Marriage matching as per KP.?

> > > >

> > > > Also I like to know the rules were fixed by whom?

> > > >

> > > > I hope this is being given in some sw.

> > > >

> > > > I will be obliged to get these details

> > > >

> > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > Adith

> > > >

> > >

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April 15, 2010

Dear All

It is true that every thing can not be predestined.There has to be a purpose of this creation.

As they say it may be developement of soul for the ultimate solvation or nirvana.If every thing is predestined the creator is simply supervising the preprogrammed robots.This is not

possible.

However what is freewill.Every attribute,quality or tendency is either inbuilt by birth or the result of circumstances.environment,upbringing etc.The intelligence,power of discrimination,the desire to be good or righteous is not of our own making,-it is inuilt or circumstantial.We study the life of spritual people.Many of them were leading ordinary life till there was an external trigger in the form of a happening,meeting a guru etc.Where from the impetus to do the right karmas will come.It is there with one but absent in another.The one having this impetus has not created it ,it has come from within or from an external source.

As Guru granth saheb says " Mera mujh me kuchh nahin, jo kuchh hae so tera"

The whole issue is very confusing to me & may be beyond the comprehension of an ordinary human

a.k.sehgal

--- On Wed, 14/4/10, TW <tw853 wrote:

TW <tw853 Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching Date: Wednesday, 14 April, 2010, 9:06 AM

Dear Adith ji,1. Everything in one's life may be said as predestined at the moment of birth by past karma for the possibility of cent percent accuracy in the astrological prediction which is not the case in practice. Because please note "it may be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects of his Karma."2. "If the present life is totally conditioned or wholly controlled by our past actions, then certainly Karma is tantamount to fatalism or determinism or predestination. If this were true, free will would be an absurdity. Life would be purely mechanistic, not much different from a machine. Such a fatalistic doctrine is not the Buddhist law of Karmaâ€¦Karma does not necessarily mean past actions. It embraces both past and present deeds. Hence in one sense, we are

the result of what we were; we will be the result of what we areâ€¦ The inequality that exists among mankind is the result of our own past actions and our own present doings (esp viriya 'effort' and panna 'wisdom'). We ourselves are responsible for our own."-Ven. Mahasi Sayadaw (The Theory of Karma)3. In the Upajjhatthana Sutta (AN 5.57), the Lord Buddha states:"I am the owner of my karma. I inherit my karma. I am born of my karma. I am related to my karma. I live supported by my karma. Whatever karma I create, whether good or evil, that I shall inherit."Regards,TW@gro ups.com, "adith kasinath.g.k" <gkadithkasinath@ ...> wrote:>> Dear TW ji,> > Thanks for the valuable points by our Guruji.> > But I

ever have teh following question in mind unanswered.> > When all is destined in one life, he can not be responsible for his deeds in> the present life.> For example, if one happens to be a bad person in all activities due to his> past bad deeds, he may not be in a position to do any good deeds in his> present life. In this case, in his next births also we can expect him to be> a bad human only. So how can one is expected to do any good deeds in his> birth?> > can you enlighten me on this?> > Regards> Adith> > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:50 PM, TW <tw853 wrote:> > >> >> > *Guruji KSK's Quotations on Karma, Destiny*> >> > Chances, luck or misfortune are governed by the law of Causation or Karma.> > God is neither partial or unjust, and everything happens according to

one's> > action in the past birth.> >> > When we think we understand that the theory "Karma and Incarnation" alone> > can convince.--- what we have to enjoy is undoubtedly predestined. I cannot> > understand how the judgment of God can be, in any manner, modified or> > nullified by our efforts.---> >> > Everything is predestined. ---None can dodge fate.--- If one can change the> > event by one's will, then astrology has no place.> >> > Karma can be divided broadly into three kinds: Dhruda (fixed) Karma that> > one has committed an inexcusable mistake or crime in the previous birth,> > Dhruda - Adhruda (fixed/non-fixed) Karma that one would have committed an> > excusable mistake in the previous birth, and Adhruda (non-fixed) Karma that> > the crime committed may be negligibleâ€¦The majority of people

commit> > excusable mistakes called Dhruda â€“ Adhruda Karma. Therefore Shanti will be> > done by them with or without their knowledge and they will not ultimately> > sufferâ€¦ Just like one has no choice about his birth time, place and his> > parents, so also there is nothing left in one's hands. Everything is> > pre-destined. None can change it. Then only one can use this> > scienceâ€¦Astrology is a science. It needs further research and confirmation.> > There is no use for the word "Likely". Everything is a certaintyâ€¦ It may> > be said, more as a compromise, that man is both a slave of the effects of> > his past deeds and is a free agent as regards his deeds which are in no way> > directed to thwart, arrest, alter or in any way modify or remold the effects> > of his Karma.> >> >> >> >>

>> >> >> >> > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Prasanna,> > > Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ As per K.P.,and nobody/nothing> > can change human destiny/fate, once written by Brahma soon after one's> > birth...your quote of Nacchiketa is of a very rare and extra-ordinary> > case...> > > Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Guruji KSK had predicted the> > death of a retired senior retired Govt. Official who requested him> > toÃ‚ predit even the Tome of his death...which the worthy disbelieved> > totally,and in order to prov KSK

wrong,made arrangements to sith in his lawn> > under a Garden Umbrella with a Thermos Flask full of coffee to wait out well> > past the predited thr Time of Death...but alas,from the corner of his eyes> > he was watching his dear grandson play on the verendah...and to his great> > horror he saw him walking baxckwards towards the garden and to a fall on the> > ground below and that too backwards... in a desperate attempt at preventing> > him from walking towards his certain fall,he made a dash for him,his foot> > got stuck in the crossbar of the easychair inÃ‚ which he was seated and he> > fellÃ‚ down,hitting his head on the ston steps with a resounding thud,and he> > died instantly,and to the surprise of all, the time was exactly what KSK had> > > predicted days in advance...!> > > Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚

Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ The above has ben> > narrated in his original Books...and prove that Astroloby is a Vedanga and> > is born out of the Karma Theory...what is destined WILL take place...come> > what may...Ã‚ !> > > Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ This also proves the> > accuracy of K.P. and Krishnamurthi Ayanamsa...> > > Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Another "live" proof can> > be had by anyone,if he so desires :> > > Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ First have a Birth Chart> > correctly cast by a K.P. Astrologer after the necessary corrections( if> > needed),are made...> > > Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Then,pl. note the exact> > time at which one gets a cut or has

a fall with blood oozing out of the> > wound...> > > Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ To your great chagrin,> > the sublords of the IVth,VIIIth & XIIth cusps,will be the Dasa/Bhukti/ Anthra> > lords of the persons Dasa running at the time... !> > > Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Pl. check and> > inform,this is a "love" proof...what more is required ?> > > Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ With best wishes,> > > Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Yogesh Lajmi.> > > Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚> > > Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚> > >> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@ wrote:>

> >> > >> > > prasanna acharya prasanna_ppl@> >> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > > Cc: ssagar86@> >> > > Received: Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 6:48 PM> > >> > >> > > Ã‚> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Respected sagarji,> > > your views seem to be fatalistic. Human life is just a tiny part of this> > vast BRAMHANDA.So many factors effect human life that it is not possible to> > predict what will happen in future.

Astrologers can only in some way study> > the trend or tendencies.With the gene therapy even diffective genes can be> > replaced, which instigates people to go for wrong action causing wrong> > result. It is said person doing PAPA will get his due result in this KALI> > ERA itself. Instances may be found where even Prarabdha was changed. Story> > of NACHIKETA is known to all. Story of SAVITRI is alsoÃ‚ known to all. It> > depends on the personÃ‚ who has been sufferring. In fact in KALI ERA people> > do not have patience or faith that mountains can be moved.Hence no serious> > effort is done to change the destiny.Ã‚ Hence with all due respect to you> > please give your opinion in this regard.> > > Ã‚> > > Prasanna> > > Ã‚> >> > >> > >> > > --- On Sat, 10/4/10, K. P. Naidu

konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > >> > >> > > K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 8:17 PM> > >> > >> > > Ã‚> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Friends,> > >> > > ASTROLOGER TELLS WHAT MAY HAPPEN, BUT GOD ONLY CAN TELL WHAT EXACTLY WILL> > HAPPEN.> > >> > > Naidu KP> > >> > > K. P. Naidu,> > > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> > > Nowroji Road,> > > Maharanipeta,> > > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> > > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.> > >> > > --- On Sat,

10/4/10, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > >> > >> > > Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > > Saturday, 10 April, 2010, 12:03 AM> > >> > >> > > Ã‚> > >> > >> > > Dear Adith> > > MY first conference attend in Feb 1989 at Cuttack.> > > i have presented three papers and speak on one important subject called "> > Everything is predestined and no one can change or alter it , even the> > Creator lord Brahma"> > > We astrologers can predict the events what will happen, neither we can> > change or alter it.> > > I have quoted " yatha raja , tatha praja" likewise "yatha graha tatha> >

phala".> > > Almost all astrologer appreciated my speech, later Mr.Subramaniam asked> > me " ur speech truly marvelous, but can u answer for one doubt" can u run in> > a front of running vehicle by assuming that everything predestined"> > > my answer was " if my fate is predestined to met with accident i will run> > in front of a running bus, if my fate is not predestined for accident even> > though i run in front of a running bus , driver will try to rescue me and he> > will turn his vehicle which will kill some which has predestined is one> > thing on the other hand my mind will not permit me to run in front of> > running bus".> > > All astrologers are only a reader what will happen in the future.> > > in fact i wont match guna kuta , i will match the girl and boy chart> > weather their marriage has predestined or

not.> > > I use to predict few points of the girl/boy as per their charts.It> > happened too.> > > Regards> > > Sahhasra Saagara> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Senthil athi_ram >> > > @gro ups.com> > > Fri, 9 April, 2010 9:58:28 PM> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > >> > > Ã‚> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Adith,> > >> > > Ã‚> > >> > > Suppose if a client (parent) brings say 10 female horoscopes along with> > their sonÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s horoscope to

find the match for their son. Now as an> > astrologer you find the best match among 10 and selected one. But there is> > no guarantee that they will go for marriage with selected one. So what is> > the use for matching the charts? Actually you have to find firstly whether> > as per his destiny his GirlÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s chart is available among the 10 charts are> > not? If yes, that is it else ask them to bring any other set of charts to> > find his Girl (written as per his destiny) that is all. I have written an> > article based on my past failure case (job offers) regarding Ã¢â‚¬Å“which> > company he will join?Ã¢â‚¬ in KP annual number 2010 you may refer it.> > >> > > Ã‚> > >> > > Also during my study on Driving license one of the person who failed in> > the 1st road test asked me the following (refer Quiz-8). He was

ready to> > attend ONLY ON TEST (no more test & the person was having urge etc.) which> > he should get PASS. Now you have to tell which date/time he should attend> > the test so that he will get pass on that day/time. You have to guarantee> > that he will get appointment on that date/time (there is a chance he can> > purposely get appointment for some other date/time or the date may be> > already booked by many candidate and full etc), the test should be conducted> > on that date/time (it should not be declared holiday or cancelled due to any> > reason etc) and also he should attend the test on that date/time without> > fail (not absent due to any reasons or there is a chance he can purposely> > not to attend test on that date/time etc) and he should get PASS.> > >> > > Ã‚> > >> > > Are you ready to

give all the above correct? Any one failure is> > sufficient to say that our prediction is WRONG.> > >> > >> > > Ã‚> > >> > > So what is our (astrologerÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s) role? I personally believe that we are> > the tools through us some message is passed on the native/quarent that is> > it.> > >> > > Ã‚> > > The above are my personal views and not to criticize you or anybody.> > > Ã‚> > > GOOD LUCK!!> > > Ã‚> > > D.Senthil> > > Ã‚> > >> > >> > > --- On Fri, 4/9/10, adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>> > wrote:> > >> > >> > > adith kasinath.g.k <gkadithkasinath@ gmail.com>> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage

Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > > Friday, April 9, 2010, 12:49 AM> > >> > >> > > Ã‚> > >> > > Dear Sagar ji,> > >> > > I accept your points. . But if it is destined, whats the role of> > Astrologer in matching? Why should we match?> > >> > > Does any astrologer play role in fixing the match ? or helping to find> > the best match?> > >> > > I hope there must some logic behind in our old says..> > >> > > As per the Astrologers guidelines if anyone follows, the incidents can> > not be stopped but the impact can be reduced. Similarly, in a chart if he> > has a poor significations for a happy marital life, if he is marched to a> > better one, there wont be permanent separation but

misunderstanding or> > temporary separation during the unfavorable period.> > > Pls give your views on the above.> > >> > > With Regards> > > Adith> > >> > >> > >> > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Sagar S ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > >> > >> > > Ã‚> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Hi> > > neither guna nor kuta will helpful in matching of boy-girl horoscope as> > it is predestined and he/she should get marry what has already destined in> > their charts.> > > i remember one girl chartÃ‚ in which i had predicted short marital life> > as well as i had predicted diseases of her husband by anlysing her chart.> > Later girl married and lead marital life for few

years and her faced health> > problem resulted in his death.> >> > > both in hindu predictive as well as in kp for marital life some> > combination and significance has given.> > > Regards> > > Sahhasra Saagara> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi@ >> > >> > > @gro ups.com> > >> > > Cc: Wyomesh wyomeshd >> > > Thu, 8 April, 2010 8:14:18 PM> > > Re: Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > >> > > Ã‚> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Wyomesh,> > > Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚

Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Yoni Guna has been taken> > care of in KPDP, for your information, under compatibility. ..!> > > Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ With best wishes,> > > Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Ã‚ Yogesh Lajmi.> >> > >> > > --- On Wed, 7/4/10, Wyomesh wyomeshd > wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > > Wyomesh wyomeshd >> > > Re: KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > @gro ups.com> > >> > >> > >> > > Received: Wednesday, 7 April, 2010, 1:59 PM> > >> > >> > > Ã‚> > >> > >> > > Hello> > >> > > I

would like to add here something... .> > > It is very important to see YONI GUNA. Suppose male YONI is GAU (cow)> > > and Female's Yoni is VYAGHRA ( LION)... Both are hard enemies. So, Even> > on matching perfect can not give satisfactory married life.> > >> > > So we should always look for traditional rules with KP.> > >> > > Thank you> > >> > > @gro ups.com, "kadavasalramani" <kadavasalramani@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sri Adithj,> > > >> > > > KPDP Rules have been framed by Shri K.P.Kuppuganapathi, disciple of> > late Guruji, Sri KSK.> > > > It is like Dasavidha Porutham of traditional astrology, modified> > according to KP Astrology of Sub Rule. There are 11 or 12 items for matching> > the horoscopes

of bride and bridegroom, and given marks on percentage. In> > this item 10 is given more importance which states whether the couple will> > lead a happy married life with their present Dasa Bhukthi. In this there is> > no matching of doshas including Mars, or Kalathra Dosha, Sun Dosha, Saturn> > Dosha etc. It is said that this KPDP Rules for matching 2 horoscopes> > according to KP system.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > K.S.V.Ramani> > > > -> > > > adith kasinath.g.k> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:02 AM> > > > KPDP RULES in Marriage Matching> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear friends,>

> > >> > > > Can you please elaborate the actual rules that are being followed in> > the KPDP in respect to Marriage matching as per KP.?> > > >> > > > Also I like to know the rules were fixed by whom?> > > >> > > > I hope this is being given in some sw.> > > >> > > > I will be obliged to get these details> > > >> > > > Thanks and Regards> > > > Adith> > > >> > >> > >> > > Ã‚> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger.> > Download Now! http://messenger. / download. php> > >> > >> > >> > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your

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April 15, 2010

Dear Tw ji,Thanks for your valuable inputs.It is very difficult to understand the whole!It is beyond our imagination !One must be destined to understand this too!Thanks and RegardsAdith

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:02 AM, TW <tw853 wrote:

Dear Adith ji,

It is indeed very difficult to classify Karma according to the time in which effects are worked out.

Regards,

TW

Theory of Karma by Ven. Mahasi Sayadaw

1. Immediately Effective (ditthadhammavedaniya) Karma- in the present lifetime

2. Subsequently Effective (uppapajjavedaniya) Karma- in the immediately following lifetime

3. Indefinitely Effective (aparapariyavedaniya) Karma-- in lifetimes two or more in the future

4. Defunct or Ineffective (ahosi) Karma- kamma whose effects have ripened already

Immediately Effective Karma is that which is experienced in this present life. According to the Abhidhamma one does both good and evil during the javana process (thought-impulsion), which usually lasts for seven thought-moments. The effect of the first thought-moment, being the weakest, one may reap in this life itself. This is called the Immediately Effective Karma.

If it does not operate in this life, it is called `Defunct or Ineffective' Karma.

The next weakest is the seventh thought-moment. Its effect one may reap in the subsequence birth. This is called `Subsequently Effective' Karma.

This, too, is called Defunct or Ineffective Karma if it does not operate in the second birth. The effect of the intermediate thought-moments may take place at any time until one attains Nibbana. This type of Karma is known as `Indefinitely Effective' Karma.

No one, not even the Buddhas and Arahantas, is exempt from this class of Karma which one may experience in the course of one's wandering in Samsara. There is no special class of Karma known as Defunct or Ineffective, but when such actions that should produce their effects in this life or in a subsequent life do not operate, they are termed Defunct or Ineffective Karma.

, " adith kasinath.g.k " <gkadithkasinath wrote: