SOLUTIONS/REMEDIES IN KP ASTROLOGY

August 4, 2009

Although I’ve not intended to see the discussion in the

direction its presently going( much deeper direction,then I intended),

When I put this discussion initially,named-“solutions/remedies

under KP Astro”,it specifically meant to discuss that,whether those are

provided or not under KP.

Or a KP astrologer is just try to predict the events only

& has no intention whatsoever nor want to think in that Direction,that

actual & final object of any analysis,be it an astro analysis or any other

analysis in life,or its any field say,medical ,management,is to find out a

effective,full proof solution to the problem.

Thanks & Regards,

Sonali

On Behalf Of sujata

das

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 12:53 PM

Re: Re: SOLUTIONS/REMEDIES IN KP ASTROLOGY

Dear Sonali

I would read about widowhood in my horoscpe but I refused

to believe it. But subconsciously I was prepared to face it with courage. I

would not forgive God for this but when I understood that these expereince

are only to bring the latent undeveloped faculties in u, I accepted it as a

learning process towards perfection, the ultimate aim of life.

Regards

Sujata

--- On Mon, 3/8/09, VIJAYANANDPATIL <guide_vijayanand

wrote:

VIJAYANANDPATIL <guide_vijayanand

Re: Re: SOLUTIONS/REMEDIES IN KP ASTROLOGY

Cc: sonali.me.2009

Monday, 3 August, 2009, 2:12 PM

Dear Sonali,

You have pointed out the query that everyone expects to touch it. By performing

the same deed, no 2 separate persons will not get a similar result. Because

it is their fate. We can not change the fate of jataka. But by the grace of

Lord Uchist Mahaganapathi we can guide him in a very special manner about the

forthcoming things. If you go through the KP readers, where Shri KSK has

given a simple illustratin when a father is making journey to holy place with

his sons. When certain significations of horoscope activate, then his son

take a deep in Gangas and he fled away and thus the father had deprived son

and his santati saukhya is lost. By this illustration, we come to know that

we can only give possibilities of supposed dangers in the forthcoming

days/years. But by denoting the dangers also only a few jataka who are lucky

enough to act according to the genuine advice of astrologer/Guru and save

himself from evil happening. But there are also a few who have been

communited the evil things suppose to happen in their lives, they will not

believe it and on the happening of the same thing, they only repent.

There is no such upasana as to why everyone's wishes will complete and

fulfil. But by performing certain pujas you will have a strength to fight the

situation. Shri KSK personally used to give certain upasanas to the students,

(It has been told by Mr. Jotyndra Hasbe, Krishnamurthi of Marathi) i.e. of

Lord Uchist Mahaganapathi. By performing the puja, jataka will have insignt

in themselves and automatically try to reduce the problems incoming in their

lives,.

Still for further details

Vijayanand R.Patil, President, Astrovision, The Scientific Socy. for Research

and Devt.in Astrology, Kolhapur

Writeme to : physics@ . co.in

Call me to : +91 9422582853/+ 919673746303

On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 12:25:52 +0530 wrote

>I also belong to the same school of thought of sri Rao.

>

>Comparing Medcial science with Astrology is not correct.

>

>Even in medical science also, cures are effected after the poatient

suffers for the period as destined. ,

>

>Naidu KP

>

>K. P. Naidu,

>Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,

>Nowroji Road,

>Maharanipeta,

>VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.

>Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.

>

>--- On Sun, 2/8/09, Yogesh Lajmi wrote:

>

>Yogesh Lajmi

>Re: SOLUTIONS/REMEDIES IN KP ASTROLOGY

>@gro ups.com

>Cc: " SONALI "

>Sunday, 2 August, 2009, 4:47 PM

>

>Dear SONALI,

>

As per K.P.,which as astrology itself is based upon the Karma

theory,it is just not possibe to escape one's fate as decded at one's very

Birth...

>

Upayas/Remedies are being peddled by mostly pseudo-astrologers

and tricksters masquerading as astrologers. ..and in my humble

opinion,fleecing people by making such fraudulent claims...I have in the past

challenged many such sooth-sayers, they cannot rightfully deserve to be

called astrologers, to give JUST ONE SUCH AUTHENTICATED CASE WHERE ANY UPAYA

HAS SUCCEEDED... ALONG WITH THE PERSON'S CORRECT DOB,TOB,POB. ..and so far

NONE have had the courage to reply or even acknowledge receipt,or even refute

my contentions. ..till date.

>

K.P. only helps to unravel your fate....it cannot, and has never

made claims to be able alter your fate...!

>

Pl.. do not fall a prey to charlatans who are good salesmen at

best...and know a smattering of astrology,enough to fool the gullibe and the

simpletons.. .

>

With best wishes,

>

Yogesh Lajmi.

>

>SONALI

>@gro ups.com

>Sunday, August 2, 2009 12:07:03 AM

> SOLUTIONS/REMEDIES IN KP ASTROLOGY

>

>HELLO ALL MEMBERS,

>TO THE EXTENT IVE LEARNED KP, IT SAYS THAT ON A PARTICULAR TIME A

PARTICULAR EVENT WILL HAPPEN,ANYHOW.

>BUT IF THE LIKELY EVENT IS A BAD ONE, HOW TO STOP IT FROM HAPPENING OR

HOW TO REDUCE ITS EFFECTS ARE NOT SPECIFIED IN KP.

>OR ALTERNATIVELY, IF THE EVENT IS LIKELY TO BE A GOOD ONE, HOW TO

INCREASE ITS EFFECT IS NO WHERE SPECIFIED UNDER KP ASTROLOGY.

>THIS IS SAME AS A CASE , WHERE ONE PATEINT GOES TO A DOCTOR DOCTOR

SIMPLY SAYS THAT PATEINT IS SUFFERING FROM FEVER,.BUT WHEN ASKED FOR

SOLUTION, HE SAYS THAT THERE IS NO SOLUTION.BUT THE REAL ROLE OF DOCTOR IS TO

GIVE MEDICINE TO THE PATEINT SO THAT HE OVERCOME THAT FEVER, UNLESS THE

DOCTOR DOES SO ,I.E.PROVIDE THE FULL PROOF SOLUTION TO THE PATEINT

, THERE IS NO POINT FOR THE PATEINT TO GO TO THE DOCTOR.DOCTOR CAN NOT

SAYS THAT AS THE FEVER HAS COME AUTOMATICALLY, IT WILL GO THE SAME WAY.

>SIMILARLY, IF, EVEN THE MOST COMPETENT KP ASTROLOGER CAN ONLY PREDICT THE

EVENTS(THERE ARE FEWER),BUT CANNOT PROVIDE THE SOLUTIONS/REMEDIES FOR THAT

EVENT,WHATS THE PONT IN GOING TO THE ASTROLOGER.

>IN SHORT, I WANT TO KNOW THE SOLUTIONS/REMEDIES PROVIDED UNDER KP

ASTROLOGY AS OTHER BRANCHES OF ASTRO DOES, I.E..SOME SAYS FOR WEARING OF

GEMS,SOME SAYS MANTRA,SOME ABOUT DONATIONS,ETC.

>PLZ CLARIFY THIS ISSUE..

>

>Thanks Regards,

>

>Sonali

>

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August 4, 2009

On one hand people “everything is destined” on the

other they also say” everything is in our own hands,we make our destiny”

These two are contradictory approaches & only one of them

can be correct, often when someone is lost, he/she follows first approach &

when he/she wins, simply says second line.

But smarter people would say…ohh whts the problem,both are

correct..!!

But on a deeper,deeper thought,one can say that only one of the

above two can be correct.

I think , here Punitji wants me to simply listen to 1st one &

say all the time –“agreed”,”agreed”,”agreed”

I would be glad if Punitji will explain these lines:

For instance, one person is born with all the

signficators to do only bad deeds, he is not responsible for the things he

does. Hence he will do mostly bad as destined and hence it will follow in the

next birth also. hence, once born bad is bad for ever in all his births? Or

only born good is for good ever?

Thanks & Regards,

Sonali

On Behalf Of Punit

Pandey

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 1:37 PM

Re: SOLUTIONS/REMEDIES IN KP ASTROLOGY

Dear Sonali ji,

Conviction for you is your characteristics as a

listener. Because this is listener's characteristics and not the

characteristics of the person explaining, you can never be convinced by anyone.

When you say " I don't think so " and " not anybody able to

logically explain it " without giving any rationale by yourself, it clearly

tells us that you are already convinced about something and you merely want to

listen the same from other people.

You say " For instance, one person is born

with all the signficators to do only bad deeds, he is not responsible for the

things he does. Hence he will do mostly bad as destined and hence it will

follow in the next birth also. hence, once born bad is bad for ever in all his

births? Or only born good is for good ever? I dont think so! " If

I say that if you are destined for good, you will do good, and destined for

bad, you will do bad, will you accept it? You will not, becasue you don't want

to? If you already decided " I don't think so " , where is the scope of

debate and discussion?

This is not the first time we are debating this topic and

this is not the first time we are having sharp reactions when we try to explain

that the things are pre-destined. People can not accept it because it directly

attacks 'I' - the ego of a person. This concept says that a person is nothing,

person is just a " puppet " and the sharp reaction is expected.

How can a person who is used to seeing the world from his own eyes according to

his own perspective can accept it? It is not easy to accept. We want

to see the world the way we want to see. We want to see astrologer as

a doctor, then how can somebody tell us that an astrologer is an

astrologer and not a doctor? We will not accept it because we don't

want to accept it.

I remember a scene of matrix movie (though I forgot the name

of characters) in which a person who was living in the matrix (maya) don't

want to get out of it because he was enjoying matrix. If we enjoy

illusion, nobody can make us accept the concept of destiny. It hurts. It hurts

our very existence. This is the reason that Jyotish is named so

(Jyoti + Ish = Light of God), because it helps us knowing the ultimate truth/

ultimate knowledge.

Finally, I would like to say that this is not a forum for

discussing philosophies. This is a forum to discuss stellar astrology and

we should stick to that.

Thanks & Regards,

Punit Pandey

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:05 PM, SONALI <sonali.me.2009 wrote:

Dear Adithji,

As perfectly quoted by you, biggest question

troubled me always is :

b) If everything is

destined in one's life, one is not responsible for his/her deeds in the birth

life. Then how he/she is responsible for the deeds which in turn we call Karma,

affects or plays the role in the next birth.

For instance, one person is born with all the signficators to do only bad

deeds, he is not responsible for the things he does. Hence he will do mostly

bad as destined and hence it will follow in the next birth also. hence, once

born bad is bad for ever in all his births? Or only born good is for good ever?

I dont think so!

I

don’t think anybody has been logically able to explain this, nor even

biggest of saints..!!!

All

the explanations provided by other members does not answer to this basic

question, & I often find them just repeating,what all of us have listened so

far..without a deeper logical thought to the same.

Hoping

to get the answer of this basic question in much logical manner able to digest.

Thanks

& Regards,

Sonali

On Behalf Of adith kasinath.g.k

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 8:11 AM

Re: SOLUTIONS/REMEDIES IN KP ASTROLOGY

Dear Sonali ji,

I hope we can get the answers for these only if we are destined!!!

Regards

Adith

www.thebestastro.com

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:01 PM, SONALI <sonali.me.2009

wrote:

Dear

Adithji

Exactly

these things, I‘ve thought always but could’nt find answers to

these questions.

Thanks

& Regards,

Sonali

On Behalf Of adith kasinath.g.k

Monday, August 03, 2009 3:27 PM

Re: SOLUTIONS/REMEDIES IN KP ASTROLOGY

Dear Dr. Rath,

I do agree with all the points. But I have the following questions in mind

always, as you have mentioned:

a) If everything destined, the role of good Muhurat is what? Is it not

required? The Muhurat will happen in the sensitive point of signficators. and

not in the exact time we fix.

b) If everything is destined in one's life, one is not responsible for his/her

deeds in the birth life. Then how he/she is responsible for the needs which in

turn we call Karma, affects or plays the role in the next birth.

For instance, one person is born with all the signficators to do only bad

deeds, he is not responsible for the things he does. Hence he will do mostly

bad as destined and hence it will follow in the next birth also. hence, once

born bad is bad for ever in all his births? Or only born good is for good ever?

I dont think so!

the ancient saints who taught the Astrology, has advised to do good things or

Dhana or Dharma.

If one who is destined to do that, can do these just following the Saint/sage's

advice? Confused!!!

Then reasoning one as he has done bad deeds in the past, he faces the present

life!!!

I have a small concern in this. I dont think so as above. Even when one person

is destined to do mostly evil to others, God has given a room to think or

realise the fact either on his own or through some any Guru or any good

Astrologer or by means of Yoga or so..., he controls his activities or does any

good things, his credit will increase!!!. But here is a quetsion. Even to do

this, he should be destined? becasue planets do control on us..

hence a lot of hidden or unknown facts are prevailing...

Regards

Adith

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Luther Rath <rathluther

wrote:

Dear Sonali,

I fully yes fully agree what Sri Yogesh Lajmiji has

said. KSK said in the same way.

Now then why astrology? Why should people go to

astrologers? Diseases have remedies, some times preventive, sometimes curative

and other times at least palliative. People get some relief at least. Hence

people go to doctors. On the other hand it is one's destiny that he/she goes to

doctor, and either he/she gets cured or relieved. Unless you have answers to my

two questions you may lose interest in astrology. I request you to analyse and

find out the answers to those questions. Then only continue learning astrology.

Well this is my advice only.

Regards.

Dr. Rath

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi

Cc: SONALI <sonali.me.2009

Sunday, August 2, 2009 4:47:11 PM

Re: SOLUTIONS/REMEDIES IN KP ASTROLOGY

Dear SONALI,

As per K.P.,which as astrology itself is based upon the Karma theory,it is just

not possibe to escape one's fate as decded at one's very Birth...

Upayas/Remedies are being peddled by mostly pseudo-astrologers and tricksters

masquerading as astrologers. ..and in my humble opinion,fleecing people

by making such fraudulent claims...I have in the past challenged many such

sooth-sayers, they cannot rightfully deserve to be called astrologers, to give

JUST ONE SUCH AUTHENTICATED CASE WHERE ANY UPAYA HAS SUCCEEDED... ALONG WITH

THE PERSON'S CORRECT DOB,TOB,POB. ..and so far NONE have had the courage

to reply or even acknowledge receipt,or even refute my contentions. ..till

date.

K.P.

only helps to unravel your fate....it cannot, and has never made claims to be

able alter your fate...!

Pl.. do not fall a prey to charlatans who are good salesmen at best...and know

a smattering of astrology,enough to fool the gullibe and the simpletons.. .

With

best wishes,

Yogesh

Lajmi.

SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com>

@gro ups.com

Sunday, August 2, 2009 12:07:03 AM

SOLUTIONS/REMEDIES IN KP ASTROLOGY

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HELLO

ALL MEMBERS,

TO THE

EXTENT I’VE LEARNED KP, IT SAYS THAT ON A PARTICULAR TIME A PARTICULAR

EVENT WILL HAPPEN,ANYHOW.

BUT IF

THE LIKELY EVENT IS A BAD ONE, HOW TO STOP IT FROM HAPPENING OR HOW TO REDUCE

ITS EFFECTS ARE NOT SPECIFIED IN KP.

OR

ALTERNATIVELY, IF THE EVENT IS LIKELY TO BE A GOOD ONE, HOW TO INCREASE ITS

EFFECT IS NO WHERE SPECIFIED UNDER KP ASTROLOGY.

THIS

IS SAME AS A CASE , WHERE ONE PATEINT GOES TO A DOCTOR & DOCTOR SIMPLY SAYS

THAT PATEINT IS SUFFERING FROM FEVER,.BUT WHEN ASKED FOR SOLUTION, HE SAYS THAT

THERE IS NO SOLUTION.BUT THE REAL ROLE OF DOCTOR IS TO GIVE MEDICINE TO THE

PATEINT SO THAT HE OVERCOME THAT FEVER, UNLESS THE DOCTOR DOES SO ,I.E.PROVIDE

THE FULL PROOF SOLUTION TO THE PATEINT , THERE IS NO POINT FOR THE PATEINT TO

GO TO THE DOCTOR.DOCTOR CAN NOT SAYS THAT AS THE FEVER HAS COME AUTOMATICALLY,

IT WILL GO THE SAME WAY.

SIMILARLY,

IF, EVEN THE MOST COMPETENT KP ASTROLOGER CAN ONLY PREDICT THE EVENTS(THERE ARE

FEWER),BUT CANNOT PROVIDE THE SOLUTIONS/REMEDIES FOR THAT EVENT,WHATS THE PONT

IN GOING TO THE ASTROLOGER.

IN

SHORT, I WANT TO KNOW THE SOLUTIONS/REMEDIES PROVIDED UNDER KP ASTROLOGY AS

OTHER BRANCHES OF ASTRO DOES, I.E.SOME SAYS FOR WEARING OF GEMS,SOME SAYS

MANTRA,SOME ABOUT DONATIONS,ETC.

PLZ

CLARIFY THIS ISSUE..

Thanks

& Regards,

Sonali

August 4, 2009

Dear Sonali ji,

I would glad to explain but it will only make any sense if you are not open to listen. When you say that somebody say so, other say so, I feel that you are trying to find excuse just to listen what you want to listen.

You said " For instance, one person is born with all the signficators to do only bad deeds, he is not responsible for the things he does. Hence he will do mostly bad as destined and hence it will follow in the next birth also. hence, once born bad is bad for ever in all his births? Or only born good is for good ever? I dont think so! " . Doesn't " I dont think so " imply that you think " otherwise " . You yourself mentioned that there are only two options and when you have already chosen the second option, how does my saying matter?

Let us stop wasting our time in this debate and get back to the forum objectives.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 2:04 PM, SONALI <sonali.me.2009 wrote:

On one hand people “everything is destined” on the other they also say” everything is in our own hands,we make our destiny”

These two are contradictory approaches & only one of them can be correct, often when someone is lost, he/she follows first approach & when he/she wins, simply says second line.

But smarter people would say…ohh whts the problem,both are correct..!!

But on a deeper,deeper thought,one can say that only one of the above two can be correct.

I think , here Punitji wants me to simply listen to 1st one & say all the time –“agreed”,”agreed”,”agreed”

I would be glad if Punitji will explain these lines:

For instance, one person is born with all the signficators to do only bad deeds, he is not responsible for the things he does. Hence he will do mostly bad as destined and hence it will follow in the next birth also. hence, once born bad is bad for ever in all his births? Or only born good is for good ever?

Thanks & Regards,

Sonali

On Behalf Of Punit Pandey

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 1:37 PM

Subject: Re: SOLUTIONS/REMEDIES IN KP ASTROLOGY

Dear Sonali ji,

Conviction for you is your characteristics as a listener. Because this is listener's characteristics and not the characteristics of the person explaining, you can never be convinced by anyone. When you say " I don't think so " and " not anybody able to logically explain it " without giving any rationale by yourself, it clearly tells us that you are already convinced about something and you merely want to listen the same from other people.

You say " For instance, one person is born with all the signficators to do only bad deeds, he is not responsible for the things he does. Hence he will do mostly bad as destined and hence it will follow in the next birth also. hence, once born bad is bad for ever in all his births? Or only born good is for good ever? I dont think so! " If I say that if you are destined for good, you will do good, and destined for bad, you will do bad, will you accept it? You will not, becasue you don't want to? If you already decided " I don't think so " , where is the scope of debate and discussion?

This is not the first time we are debating this topic and this is not the first time we are having sharp reactions when we try to explain that the things are pre-destined. People can not accept it because it directly attacks 'I' - the ego of a person. This concept says that a person is nothing, person is just a " puppet " and the sharp reaction is expected. How can a person who is used to seeing the world from his own eyes according to his own perspective can accept it? It is not easy to accept. We want to see the world the way we want to see. We want to see astrologer as a doctor, then how can somebody tell us that an astrologer is an astrologer and not a doctor? We will not accept it because we don't want to accept it.

I remember a scene of matrix movie (though I forgot the name of characters) in which a person who was living in the matrix (maya) don't want to get out of it because he was enjoying matrix. If we enjoy illusion, nobody can make us accept the concept of destiny. It hurts. It hurts our very existence. This is the reason that Jyotish is named so (Jyoti + Ish = Light of God), because it helps us knowing the ultimate truth/ ultimate knowledge.

Finally, I would like to say that this is not a forum for discussing philosophies. This is a forum to discuss stellar astrology and we should stick to that.

Thanks & Regards,Punit Pandey

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:05 PM, SONALI <sonali.me.2009 wrote:

Dear Adithji,

As perfectly quoted by you, biggest question troubled me always is :

b) If everything is destined in one's life, one is not responsible for his/her deeds in the birth life. Then how he/she is responsible for the deeds which in turn we call Karma, affects or plays the role in the next birth.

For instance, one person is born with all the signficators to do only bad deeds, he is not responsible for the things he does. Hence he will do mostly bad as destined and hence it will follow in the next birth also. hence, once born bad is bad for ever in all his births? Or only born good is for good ever? I dont think so!

I don’t think anybody has been logically able to explain this, nor even biggest of saints..!!!

All the explanations provided by other members does not answer to this basic question, & I often find them just repeating,what all of us have listened so far..without a deeper logical thought to the same.

Hoping to get the answer of this basic question in much logical manner able to digest.

Thanks & Regards,

Sonali

On Behalf Of adith kasinath.g.k

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 8:11 AM

Subject: Re: SOLUTIONS/REMEDIES IN KP ASTROLOGY

Dear Sonali ji,I hope we can get the answers for these only if we are destined!!!RegardsAdithwww.thebestastro.com

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:01 PM, SONALI <sonali.me.2009 wrote:

Dear Adithji

Exactly these things, I‘ve thought always but could’nt find answers to these questions.

Thanks & Regards,

Sonali

On Behalf Of adith kasinath.g.k

Monday, August 03, 2009 3:27 PM

Re: SOLUTIONS/REMEDIES IN KP ASTROLOGY

Dear Dr. Rath,I do agree with all the points. But I have the following questions in mind always, as you have mentioned:a) If everything destined, the role of good Muhurat is what? Is it not required? The Muhurat will happen in the sensitive point of signficators. and not in the exact time we fix.

b) If everything is destined in one's life, one is not responsible for his/her deeds in the birth life. Then how he/she is responsible for the needs which in turn we call Karma, affects or plays the role in the next birth.

For instance, one person is born with all the signficators to do only bad deeds, he is not responsible for the things he does. Hence he will do mostly bad as destined and hence it will follow in the next birth also. hence, once born bad is bad for ever in all his births? Or only born good is for good ever? I dont think so!

the ancient saints who taught the Astrology, has advised to do good things or Dhana or Dharma.If one who is destined to do that, can do these just following the Saint/sage's advice? Confused!!!Then reasoning one as he has done bad deeds in the past, he faces the present life!!!

I have a small concern in this. I dont think so as above. Even when one person is destined to do mostly evil to others, God has given a room to think or realise the fact either on his own or through some any Guru or any good Astrologer or by means of Yoga or so..., he controls his activities or does any good things, his credit will increase!!!. But here is a quetsion. Even to do this, he should be destined? becasue planets do control on us..

hence a lot of hidden or unknown facts are prevailing...RegardsAdith

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Luther Rath <rathluther wrote:

Dear Sonali,

I fully yes fully agree what Sri Yogesh Lajmiji has said. KSK said in the same way.

Now then why astrology? Why should people go to astrologers? Diseases have remedies, some times preventive, sometimes curative and other times at least palliative. People get some relief at least. Hence people go to doctors. On the other hand it is one's destiny that he/she goes to doctor, and either he/she gets cured or relieved. Unless you have answers to my two questions you may lose interest in astrology. I request you to analyse and find out the answers to those questions. Then only continue learning astrology.

Well this is my advice only.

Regards.

Dr. Rath

Yogesh Lajmi <yogeshlajmi

Cc: SONALI <sonali.me.2009Sunday, August 2, 2009 4:47:11 PM

Re: SOLUTIONS/REMEDIES IN KP ASTROLOGY

Dear SONALI,

As per K.P.,which as astrology itself is based upon the Karma theory,it is just not possibe to escape one's fate as decded at one's very Birth...

Upayas/Remedies are being peddled by mostly pseudo-astrologers and tricksters masquerading as astrologers. ..and in my humble opinion,fleecing people by making such fraudulent claims...I have in the past challenged many such sooth-sayers, they cannot rightfully deserve to be called astrologers, to give JUST ONE SUCH AUTHENTICATED CASE WHERE ANY UPAYA HAS SUCCEEDED... ALONG WITH THE PERSON'S CORRECT DOB,TOB,POB. ..and so far NONE have had the courage to reply or even acknowledge receipt,or even refute my contentions. ..till date.

K.P. only helps to unravel your fate....it cannot, and has never made claims to be able alter your fate...!

Pl.. do not fall a prey to charlatans who are good salesmen at best...and know a smattering of astrology,enough to fool the gullibe and the simpletons.. .

With best wishes,

Yogesh Lajmi.

SONALI <sonali.me.2009@ gmail.com>

@gro ups.com

Sunday, August 2, 2009 12:07:03 AM SOLUTIONS/REMEDIES IN KP ASTROLOGY

Error! Filename not specified.

HELLO ALL MEMBERS,

TO THE EXTENT I’VE LEARNED KP, IT SAYS THAT ON A PARTICULAR TIME A PARTICULAR EVENT WILL HAPPEN,ANYHOW.

BUT IF THE LIKELY EVENT IS A BAD ONE, HOW TO STOP IT FROM HAPPENING OR HOW TO REDUCE ITS EFFECTS ARE NOT SPECIFIED IN KP.

OR ALTERNATIVELY, IF THE EVENT IS LIKELY TO BE A GOOD ONE, HOW TO INCREASE ITS EFFECT IS NO WHERE SPECIFIED UNDER KP ASTROLOGY.

THIS IS SAME AS A CASE , WHERE ONE PATEINT GOES TO A DOCTOR & DOCTOR SIMPLY SAYS THAT PATEINT IS SUFFERING FROM FEVER,.BUT WHEN ASKED FOR SOLUTION, HE SAYS THAT THERE IS NO SOLUTION.BUT THE REAL ROLE OF DOCTOR IS TO GIVE MEDICINE TO THE PATEINT SO THAT HE OVERCOME THAT FEVER, UNLESS THE DOCTOR DOES SO ,I.E.PROVIDE THE FULL PROOF SOLUTION TO THE PATEINT , THERE IS NO POINT FOR THE PATEINT TO GO TO THE DOCTOR.DOCTOR CAN NOT SAYS THAT AS THE FEVER HAS COME AUTOMATICALLY, IT WILL GO THE SAME WAY.

SIMILARLY, IF, EVEN THE MOST COMPETENT KP ASTROLOGER CAN ONLY PREDICT THE EVENTS(THERE ARE FEWER),BUT CANNOT PROVIDE THE SOLUTIONS/REMEDIES FOR THAT EVENT,WHATS THE PONT IN GOING TO THE ASTROLOGER.

IN SHORT, I WANT TO KNOW THE SOLUTIONS/REMEDIES PROVIDED UNDER KP ASTROLOGY AS OTHER BRANCHES OF ASTRO DOES, I.E.SOME SAYS FOR WEARING OF GEMS,SOME SAYS MANTRA,SOME ABOUT DONATIONS,ETC.

PLZ CLARIFY THIS ISSUE..

Thanks & Regards,

Sonali

August 4, 2009

Dear Sonali jiI appreciate your understanding.We shall wait for the any answers for this.Hope we should be destined to receive such answer !!!?But we can have some control on the destined? For instance, if one is destined to meet with an accident. On advice by the Astrologer to be cautious, he wears the helmet and drives. If meets with an accident, he will definetely escape from the head injury. Is it so? or not? If he has to meet with a fatal one, no one stop it. But the impact of the level of accidents can be reduced?

For example, how we prevent certain diseases with the help of vaccines? or are they waste?A lot of questions arise within mind, but we are in belief in Astrology and know that we act as per the destined role.

RegardsAdithOn Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:05 PM, SONALI <sonali.me.2009 wrote:

Dear Adithji,

As perfectly

quoted by you, biggest question troubled me always is :

b) If everything is destined in one's life, one is not

responsible for his/her deeds in the birth life. Then how he/she is responsible

for the deeds which in turn we call Karma, affects or plays the role in the

next birth.

For instance, one person is born with all the signficators to do only bad

deeds, he is not responsible for the things he does. Hence he will do mostly

bad as destined and hence it will follow in the next birth also. hence, once

born bad is bad for ever in all his births? Or only born good is for good ever?

I dont think so!

I don’t think anybody has been logically able to explain

this, nor even biggest of saints..!!!

All the explanations provided by other members does not answer

to this basic question, & I often find them just repeating,what all of us

have listened so far..without a deeper logical thought to the same.

Hoping to get the answer of this basic question in much logical manner

able to digest.

Thanks & Regards,

Sonali

On Behalf Of adith

kasinath.g.k