remedy for MKS planets

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Om lakshmiNarayanaya Namah

 

Namaste Lakshmi ji,

 

I am in agreement with you, in the fact that acceptance, understanding, and submission are the ultimate approach, so experiences are easier to live by.In that line of thought, our attempts to look at a chart and remedial measures therein, are in fact attempts to peep into one's karma only.

 

The chart in question:

November 18, 1977Time: 17:40:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 75 E 49' 10", 26 N 55' 10" jaipur, , USAAltitude: 425.00 meters

 

 

Venus in Tula in MKS: She craves for a relationship, but not a touch is to come by. Kalatra shrapa is clear with all the three malefics pointing the same finger, nonetheless AK excluded and so is 8th lord, so should not be severe.

 

Currently fasting every monday, and praying to laskhmi narayana.

 

Namaste;

Gaurav Jain

 

 

 

In a message dated 9/27/2007 1:30:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lakshmikary writes:

Hare Rama KrishnaDear GuravThe whole chart would have to be examined in entirety to come to a conclusion and a solution.I have a slight different view and that is that is:first it is understood that our sufferings are due to our own bad karma. So first we (the client/patient) needs to accept that fact, then accept the fact that we need to suffer for it or do remedial measures to help burn the bad karmas and create some good karma.I do not think the solution is thinking "oh i will wear a ring and try and avoid some suffering that is due me."Better to do some remedial measures, alter our behaviors and then go for back up help if the suffering is intense.Check the AK and soul level problems first,1)Best to go the Supreme being and pray(chant mantras) for forgiveness and repentance.I pray to Lord Krishna and Lord Shiva- others will have their own lords.After one has done those things then we can look for a gem stone, IF they can afford... 2) everyone can afford to fast ,3) and do other remedial measures of which there are many, depending on the planet delivering the suffering, ..Hope you understand were Im coming from.Send your friends chart and we can ascertain the karmas and the solutions.Some karmas are deep(involve AK planet etc) and some are transitory.Best wishesLakshmiyobrevol wrote:

 

 

 

Hare Rama Krshna

 

Namaste Laxmi ji,

 

To put a case in point, I have a solid case of venus(libra) in MKS for someone who is dyeing to get married or get into a relationship, even if just for the physical aspect of it. But she has been very unfortunate in this aspect of her life.

 

any remedies.?

 

Gaurav

 

In a message dated 9/26/2007 12:40:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lakshmikary writes:

Hare Rama KrishnaDear R.C. Srivastava.One definite case is with Venus in Maranakarakastan,Unless there are other mitigating influences to cancel out the effect and unless the person is a renunciate etc,,, I can tell you that this position had affected in a big way every case Ive ever seen of venus in MKS.Remember, we shouldn't take one indication anyway, of an affliction, it should be confirmed in several ways... ie often someone with Venus in MKS will also have a DK in 0'-degree.Or there 7th lord is in the 6th ,etcIm a firm believer in MKS. It is up to us to figure out how much it will affect a person.. a renunciate will be happy to have venus wiped out in his chart as it will push him deeper in his path.best wishesLakshmi"R.C.Srivastava" <swami (AT) kaalvastu (DOT) com> wrote:

 

Dear Zoran and friends,I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the thread of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster actually causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events and creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real impact it has?Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak parijaat independently to assess its damage and By the way,This concept is in real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file of astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have proved?I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it in terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge This was just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer ever wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.With regards.OM TAT SAT.sohamsa , "amar" <ahimsa wrote:>> Om Namah Shivaya,> Dear Swati,> You were on a good track.> The main point is that people stress the damage to a house where Marana> Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the greatest damage that> is done.> For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage to a marriage than> to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often misunderstood.> Graha in marana stana will damage>> 1. Bhavas ruled by it> 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka> 3. Bhava where it is placed> Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3. while wearing a> gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed will deal only> with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining to 1 and 2 are> related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.> What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not that simple when> trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana sthana graha is> placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is necessary, or when> such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain will come to> a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the process, such> graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence will surely fail in> such a graha,> and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing partially graha> from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.> Best wishes> Zoran> > Zoran Radosavljevic> www.siva-edu.com> jyotish blog at> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com> > > > healing spaces [healingspaces]> 17. rujan 2007 5:36> ; ahimsa Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> > > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah> Dear Zoran,> > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt Sanjayji sometime back> that i picked this thread.> What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya mantras and> gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is clearing the bhava> where MKS happens.> For example we do Ravi Aditya mantra and wear Venus gemstone which will> help the 7th bhava where MERCURY AND MARS ARE IN MKS. Is this remedy> sufficient to help lordships and other karaktwas of Marana karaka planets> > Could you help us understand how to strengthen and remedy the> 1) bhavas lorded by mars and mercury in particular varga> 2) the bhavas which they are karak off ( 3rd and 10th )> 3) the chara karaka they signify> > in my understanding when i took example for virgo lagna, with venus MKS in> 6th, i realised it was the 2nd and 9th house ( by lordships ) and 7th house> ( by being its karak ) that also needs to be remedied . And here since> jupiter is karak of 2nd and 9th while being lord of 7th house , that> JUPITER should help ?> > Swati> Om Shreem Mahalakshmayie namah> > > > On 7/17/07, amar <ahimsa wrote:> > Om Namah Shivaya,> Dear Ramesh,> I sent an emial to Sohamsa some time back, where I emphasized the> different> levels of MKS of planets.Which karaka you are reffering to? For venus it> is clear> that you are strengtning 7th house. However, for Surja in marana sthana> would you strengten> Shani, karak of 12th house?> It is often said that when Shani is in lagna, Surja should be> strengthened, what about other things?> There are at least 6 or 7 variations of MKS of planets, and their> different effects, as well as DIFFERENT> remedial measures for each problem> Bese wishes> Zoran> > Zoran Radosavljevic> www.siva-edu.com> > > > On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani> 15. rujan 2007 18:05> > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > > Dear Swati,> > You have a point. Both Swee and Zoran tend to speak in favor> strengthening the lords of houses that are affected. Zoran brings out> additional dimensions too. Sanjayji however appears to emphasize the Karka> of the house causing MK. In his mail to Swee he says "He will still need a> diamond and not Sapphire as Venus is karaka for 7th house."> > Regards> > Ramesh> > > > > --------------------------------> > > On Behalf Of healing spaces> Saturday, September 15, 2007 11:39 AM> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> > > Hare rama Krsna> Dear Rameshji,> Also read one more thread in this regard , where Zoranji also brings> this point to attention> sohamsa/message/12687> it was for this reason that i raised the question for the help needed> to Maranakarak planets lordships and its natural significations.> Swati> > On 9/15/07, healing spaces < healingspaces wrote:> > Hare Rama Krsna> Dear Rameshji,> this is the point i am asking ? When a planet is MKS marana karaka> sthana it is death inflicting to the same house karaktwa it is posted in or> also to the house the MK planet lords or is karak off.> In the first case , it shines light to that bhava , but what about the> houses it lords and is karak off . I think it is in this regard that> Sanjayji had mentioned for bhrispati or Guru mantra in the thread i was> going through !> > sohamsa/message/9099> He mentions this for taurus lagna ,:- Mercury in the 7th house is in> marana sthana for Virgo and that means his fifth house is suffering.> Thanks in advance> swati> > > > > > On 9/15/07, Ramesh F. Gangaramani < rgangaramani > wrote:> > Satyam bruyat Priyam Bruyat> > > Dear Swati,> > In Atri lectures he suggests strengthening Saturn if Sun is in MKS and> visa versa and if I got him right the recommendations were not lagna> specific.> > Regards> > Ramesh> > > > > --------------------------------> > > On Behalf Of healing spaces> Saturday, September 15, 2007 9:17 AM> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> > > Hare Rama krsna ,> Dear Rafal,> The point here is the venus is almost dying , and thus with it brings> downfall of the houses it lords or is karak off . May be the ghrini beeja> and varuna mantra opens up the venus and enliven it in the 6th house. but> what about the houses it lords ( 2 and 9) and is the karak of 7 .> i remember one mail by Pt Sanjayji, where for taurus lagna, mercury> was mks in 7th . he did suggest the Bhrispati mantra for the 2nd and 5th> house ( Jupiter is karak of these houses)> Thanks> Swati> Om Tat sat> > > > On 9/15/07, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:> > hare rama krsna> Dear Swati , Namaskar> > When Shukra is in MKS then we need Neelam or Varuna mantra (which is> for Shani and not for Jupiter). Planet in MKS needs light and ghrini vija is> opening chakra to get that light.> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> SJC Jyotish Guru;> email: rafal Articles & Consultations: http://rohinaa.com> > Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah: Hare Rama Krsna,> Dear Vistiji,> When a planet is said to be in marana karaka sthana, it wields death> inflicting powers to houses it owns. So why do we chose to pray karak or> lords where the MKS happens and not the karak of the houses it owns or> lordships of where it is the karak of!).> Say for example in venus being MKS in 6th house for virgo lagna, it> is the 2nd and 9th house that are not able to deliver, so the karak of> these houses Jupiter should be strenghtened . Similarly venus is karak of> 7th house m and jupiter is lord of 7th house in virgo, so it is jupiter> that should help to strengthen and make these bhavas strong.> Also i would want to know how and what does the ghrini Surya mantra> activate, the planet in MKS or the bhava it lords ?> Swati> Om Tat Sat>

 

 

 

 

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Om Namah Shivaya,

Dear Krishna

Guru in Marana Sthana will give problems

1. In children front, marraige

2. Health/abdomen

There are two things which help out. First it is a day birth,

and second is vargottama ketu.

Be careful at Meena Narayan dasha which is starting at 2012.

The remedy is Mantra for Ganesha.

Best wishes

Zoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu.comjyotish blog atwww.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of Krishnamurthy Seetharama27. rujan 2007 6:20sohamsa Subject: RE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

Dear Zoran,Here are my birth details:DOB: 7-Sep-1958TOB: 6:15 amPOB: BangalorePlease let me know if there is a cancellation of MKS forJupiter. I did not see any such effects during my Jupiter MD.Regards,Krishna--- amar <ahimsa.yu> wrote:> Dear Srivastava,> Yes Marana sthanas always work. I would alse request a list> member who stated that he didnot see the effects of Guru in> Marana sthana to post the chart. There are MANY steps> to go through when examining Marana Sthana. I have taught the> students at SIVA each step. You have to find exactly>> 1. Whether there is Marana Karaka dosha or is cancelled. For> example If Surya is in Marana sthana and Guru is in kendra, a> person> will RISE in life against impossible odds. See the chart of> Mahatma Gandhi.> Similarly, there are such cancelling combinations for each> graha. There are> aslo night or day births to lessen or enhance marana sthana> effects, or> births in days or nights horas. THere are also planets which> can block> Marana> sthana planets etc.> 2. IF there is Marana sthana effect where it will hit? There> are different> rules> to find out exactly whether it will hit the bhava, bhavesha or> karaka.> 3. If right remedy is sellected it does wonders.> My Close friend has this problem. See the chart attached>> In this chart, Sk and Budha are in Marana Sthana.> I will try to give as breif analyses as I can> 1. Shukra can damage 6th house placement> 2. It can damage 7th house lordship> 3. It can damage 7th house primary karaka.> 4. It is further Cursed, Shukra Shapa.> Where it will hit.> 1. Chandra considerably helps to remove the dosha, and Chandra> is exalted in> 7th house as 9th lord,> so he can come out of.> 7th bhava is afflicted by budha otherwise, dharma> karmaadhipati Yoga with AK> is there.> With Shiva Mantra and Aditya mantra, he quickly remedied his> attitude> towards women,> and came out VERY quickly out of promiscuos phase, as well as> came out of> professional enemity and work> problems *planets in 6th house affect our work and job.> 7th lord is badly placed, so he will have to make decisions> under terrible> pressure, and the circumstances> when entering a relationship are alwyas bad. He also likes a> bad character> women. These is also to be> seen by 7th lord placement.> Karaka Shukra is in Marana sthana and cursed, so his luck is> gone.> The worst hit is on the karaka!. When cursed, and with neecha> Shani, the> only remedy is Kamala. He is> now preparing to do so. Till now, he has not had the long and> stable> relationship, and is still single.Thankfully> to Chandra the remedy will work wonders and oncoming Guru> dasha is to bring> marriage.> > This is such a long topic, and I belive that in near future I> can cover it> on> the blog.> Best wishes> Zoran Radosavljevic> www.siva-edu.com> jyotish blog at> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com> > > [amar]> > > > > > sohamsa > [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of> R.C.Srivastava> 26. rujan 2007 14:43> sohamsa > Re: remedy for MKS planets> > > Dear Zoran and friends,> I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the> thread> of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.> Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster> actually> causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events> and> creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real> impact it> has?> Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak> parijaat> independently to assess its damage and By the way,This> concept is in> real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file> of> astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have> proved?> I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it> in> terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge> This was> just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer> ever> wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.> With regards.> OM TAT SAT.> > sohamsa , "amar" <ahimsa wrote:> >> > Om Namah Shivaya,> > Dear Swati,> > You were on a good track.> > The main point is that people stress the damage to a house> where> Marana> > Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the> greatest> damage that> > is done.> > For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage> to a> marriage than> > to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often> misunderstood.> > Graha in marana stana will damage>> > 1. Bhavas ruled by it> > 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka> > 3. Bhava where it is placed> > Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3.> while> wearing a> > gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed> will> deal only> > with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining> to 1 and> 2 are> > related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.> > What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not> that> simple when> > trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana> sthana graha> is> > placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is> necessary,> or when> > such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain> will> come to> > a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the> process, such> > graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence> will> surely fail in> > such a graha,> > and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing> partially graha> > from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.> > Best wishes> > Zoran> >> > Zoran Radosavljevic> > www.siva-edu.com> > jyotish blog at> > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com> >> >> > > > healing spaces [healingspaces]> > 17. rujan 2007 5:36> > ; ahimsa > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> >> >> > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah> > Dear Zoran,> >> > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt> Sanjayji> sometime back> > that i picked this thread.> > What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya> mantras and> > gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is> clearing> the bhava> > where MKS happens.> === message truncated ===________Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Autos.http://autos./new_cars.html

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Dear Zoran,

 

Thanks for your inputs. I will follow your suggesion on Mantra.

 

But, the following questions remain:

 

1. If Guru is sure to cause the effects of MKS in Meena Narayana

Dasha, then why nothing bad happened during Dhanu Narayana dasha

and Thula Narayana Dasha so far?

 

2. What is the link between vargottama Ketu and MKS Guru? How

does this help?

 

3. Why there is a link between MKS Guru and abdomen? I am not

able to reason this out.

 

Please do elaborate.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

--- amar <ahimsa wrote:

 

> Om Namah Shivaya,

> Dear Krishna

> Guru in Marana Sthana will give problems

> 1. In children front, marraige

> 2. Health/abdomen

> There are two things which help out. First it is a day birth,

> and second is vargottama ketu.

> Be careful at Meena Narayan dasha which is starting at 2012.

> The remedy is Mantra for Ganesha.

> Best wishes

> Zoran Radosavljevic

> www.siva-edu.com

> jyotish blog at

> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

>

>

> sohamsa

> [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of

> Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> 27. rujan 2007 6:20

> sohamsa

> RE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

>

>

> Dear Zoran,

>

> Here are my birth details:

>

> DOB: 7-Sep-1958

> TOB: 6:15 am

> POB: Bangalore

>

> Please let me know if there is a cancellation of MKS for

> Jupiter. I did not see any such effects during my Jupiter

> MD.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> --- amar <ahimsa wrote:

>

> > Dear Srivastava,

> > Yes Marana sthanas always work. I would alse request a

> list

> > member who stated that he didnot see the effects of Guru

> in

> > Marana sthana to post the chart. There are MANY steps

> > to go through when examining Marana Sthana. I have taught

> the

> > students at SIVA each step. You have to find exactly>

> > 1. Whether there is Marana Karaka dosha or is cancelled.

> For

> > example If Surya is in Marana sthana and Guru is in

> kendra, a

> > person

> > will RISE in life against impossible odds. See the chart

> of

> > Mahatma Gandhi.

> > Similarly, there are such cancelling combinations for each

> > graha. There are

> > aslo night or day births to lessen or enhance marana

> sthana

> > effects, or

> > births in days or nights horas. THere are also planets

> which

> > can block

> > Marana

> > sthana planets etc.

> > 2. IF there is Marana sthana effect where it will hit?

> There

> > are different

> > rules

> > to find out exactly whether it will hit the bhava,

> bhavesha or

> > karaka.

> > 3. If right remedy is sellected it does wonders.

> > My Close friend has this problem. See the chart attached>

> > In this chart, Sk and Budha are in Marana Sthana.

> > I will try to give as breif analyses as I can

> > 1. Shukra can damage 6th house placement

> > 2. It can damage 7th house lordship

> > 3. It can damage 7th house primary karaka.

> > 4. It is further Cursed, Shukra Shapa.

> > Where it will hit.

> > 1. Chandra considerably helps to remove the dosha, and

> Chandra

> > is exalted in

> > 7th house as 9th lord,

> > so he can come out of.

> > 7th bhava is afflicted by budha otherwise, dharma

> > karmaadhipati Yoga with AK

> > is there.

> > With Shiva Mantra and Aditya mantra, he quickly remedied

> his

> > attitude

> > towards women,

> > and came out VERY quickly out of promiscuos phase, as well

> as

> > came out of

> > professional enemity and work

> > problems *planets in 6th house affect our work and job.

> > 7th lord is badly placed, so he will have to make

> decisions

> > under terrible

> > pressure, and the circumstances

> > when entering a relationship are alwyas bad. He also likes

> a

> > bad character

> > women. These is also to be

> > seen by 7th lord placement.

> > Karaka Shukra is in Marana sthana and cursed, so his luck

> is

> > gone.

> > The worst hit is on the karaka!. When cursed, and with

> neecha

> > Shani, the

> > only remedy is Kamala. He is

> > now preparing to do so. Till now, he has not had the long

> and

> > stable

> > relationship, and is still single.Thankfully

> > to Chandra the remedy will work wonders and oncoming Guru

> > dasha is to bring

> > marriage.

> >

> > This is such a long topic, and I belive that in near

> future I

> > can cover it

> > on

> > the blog.

> > Best wishes

> > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > www.siva-edu.com

> > jyotish blog at

> > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

> >

> >

> > [amar]

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > sohamsa

> > [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of

> > R.C.Srivastava

> > 26. rujan 2007 14:43

> > sohamsa

> > Re: remedy for MKS planets

> >

> >

> > Dear Zoran and friends,

> > I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the

> > thread

> > of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.

> > Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster

> > actually

> > causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past

> events

> > and

> > creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real

> > impact it

> > has?

> > Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak

> > parijaat

> > independently to assess its damage and By the way,This

> > concept is in

> > real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and

> file

> > of

> > astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have

> > proved?

> > I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about

> it

> > in

> > terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge

> > This was

> > just a concept written in book and no practicing

> astrologer

> > ever

> > wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.

> > With regards.

> > OM TAT SAT.

> >

> > sohamsa , " amar " <ahimsa wrote:

> > >

> > > Om Namah Shivaya,

> > > Dear Swati,

> > > You were on a good track.

> > > The main point is that people stress the damage to a

> house

> > where

> > Marana

> > > Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the

> > greatest

> > damage that

> > > is done.

> > > For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage

> > to a

> > marriage than

> > > to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often

>

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Hare Rama KrishnaDear Guruji, the link for your new blog doesnt work. Please check it...Best wishes, BojanHari Om Tat Satamar <ahimsa wrote: Om Namah Shivaya, Dear Krishna Guru in Marana Sthana will give problems 1. In children front, marraige 2. Health/abdomen There are two things which help out. First it is a day birth, and second is vargottama ketu. Be careful at Meena Narayan dasha which is starting at 2012. The remedy is Mantra for Ganesha. Best wishes Zoran

Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu.comjyotish blog atwww.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com sohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of Krishnamurthy Seetharama27. rujan 2007 6:20sohamsa Subject: RE: Re: remedy for MKS planets Dear Zoran,Here are my birth details:DOB: 7-Sep-1958TOB: 6:15 amPOB: BangalorePlease let me know if there is a cancellation of MKS forJupiter. I did not see any such effects during my Jupiter MD.Regards,Krishna--- amar <ahimsa.yu> wrote:> Dear Srivastava,> Yes

Marana sthanas always work. I would alse request a list> member who stated that he didnot see the effects of Guru in> Marana sthana to post the chart. There are MANY steps> to go through when examining Marana Sthana. I have taught the> students at SIVA each step. You have to find exactly>> 1. Whether there is Marana Karaka dosha or is cancelled. For> example If Surya is in Marana sthana and Guru is in kendra, a> person> will RISE in life against impossible odds. See the chart of> Mahatma Gandhi.> Similarly, there are such cancelling combinations for each> graha. There are> aslo night or day births to lessen or enhance marana sthana> effects, or> births in days or nights horas. THere are also planets which> can block> Marana> sthana planets etc.> 2. IF there is Marana sthana effect where it will hit?

There> are different> rules> to find out exactly whether it will hit the bhava, bhavesha or> karaka.> 3. If right remedy is sellected it does wonders.> My Close friend has this problem. See the chart attached>> In this chart, Sk and Budha are in Marana Sthana.> I will try to give as breif analyses as I can> 1. Shukra can damage 6th house placement> 2. It can damage 7th house lordship> 3. It can damage 7th house primary karaka.> 4. It is further Cursed, Shukra Shapa.> Where it will hit.> 1. Chandra considerably helps to remove the dosha, and Chandra> is exalted in> 7th house as 9th lord,> so he can come out of.> 7th bhava is afflicted by budha otherwise, dharma> karmaadhipati Yoga with AK> is there.> With Shiva Mantra and Aditya mantra, he quickly remedied his> attitude>

towards women,> and came out VERY quickly out of promiscuos phase, as well as> came out of> professional enemity and work> problems *planets in 6th house affect our work and job.> 7th lord is badly placed, so he will have to make decisions> under terrible> pressure, and the circumstances> when entering a relationship are alwyas bad. He also likes a> bad character> women. These is also to be> seen by 7th lord placement.> Karaka Shukra is in Marana sthana and cursed, so his luck is> gone.> The worst hit is on the karaka!. When cursed, and with neecha> Shani, the> only remedy is Kamala. He is> now preparing to do so. Till now, he has not had the long and> stable> relationship, and is still single.Thankfully> to Chandra the remedy will work wonders and oncoming Guru> dasha is to bring>

marriage.> > This is such a long topic, and I belive that in near future I> can cover it> on> the blog.> Best wishes> Zoran Radosavljevic> www.siva-edu.com> jyotish blog at> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com> > > [amar]> > > > > > sohamsa > [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of> R.C.Srivastava> 26. rujan 2007 14:43> sohamsa > Re: remedy for MKS planets> > > Dear Zoran and friends,> I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the> thread> of MKS.Very good &

Bright insights I see from GURUS.> Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster> actually> causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events> and> creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real> impact it> has?> Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak> parijaat> independently to assess its damage and By the way,This> concept is in> real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file> of> astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have> proved?> I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it> in> terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge> This was> just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer> ever> wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.> With regards.> OM TAT

SAT.> > sohamsa , "amar" <ahimsa wrote:> >> > Om Namah Shivaya,> > Dear Swati,> > You were on a good track.> > The main point is that people stress the damage to a house> where> Marana> > Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the> greatest> damage that> > is done.> > For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage> to a> marriage than> > to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often> misunderstood.> > Graha in marana stana will damage>> > 1. Bhavas ruled by it> > 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka> > 3. Bhava where it is placed> > Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3.> while> wearing

a> > gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed> will> deal only> > with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining> to 1 and> 2 are> > related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.> > What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not> that> simple when> > trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana> sthana graha> is> > placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is> necessary,> or when> > such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain> will> come to> > a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the> process, such> > graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence> will> surely fail in> > such a graha,> > and a person will not perform

remedial measure. So, seing> partially graha> > from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.> > Best wishes> > Zoran> >> > Zoran Radosavljevic> > www.siva-edu.com> > jyotish blog at> > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com> >> >> > > > healing spaces [healingspaces]> > 17. rujan 2007 5:36> > ; ahimsa > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> >> >> > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah> > Dear Zoran,> >> > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt> Sanjayji> sometime back> > that i picked this

thread.> > What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya> mantras and> > gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is> clearing> the bhava> > where MKS happens.> === message truncated ===________Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Autos.http://autos./new_cars.html Best wishes, SJC Guru Bojan Vidakovic for articles and

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Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Zoran,What about debilitated planets in MKS - can this be a kind of neechabhanga? Say for Scorpio Lagna, Jupiter in the 3rd house will give good results, even for children as it is karaka and lord of the same. I have seen a couple of charts with this, but perhaps there may other factors.Respectfully,Michalamar <ahimsasohamsa Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 2:15:35 PMRE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

 

Om Namah Shivaya,

Dear Krishna

Guru in Marana Sthana will give problems

1. In children front, marraige

2. Health/abdomen

There are two things which help out. First it is a day birth,

and second is vargottama ketu.

Be careful at Meena Narayan dasha which is starting at 2012.

The remedy is Mantra for Ganesha.

Best wishes

Zoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu. comjyotish blog atwww.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com

 

sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa]On Behalf Of Krishnamurthy Seetharama27. rujan 2007 6:20sohamsa@ .comRE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

Dear Zoran,Here are my birth details:DOB: 7-Sep-1958TOB: 6:15 amPOB: BangalorePlease let me know if there is a cancellation of MKS forJupiter. I did not see any such effects during my Jupiter MD.Regards,Krishna--- amar <ahimsa. yu> wrote:> Dear Srivastava,> Yes Marana sthanas always work. I would alse request a list> member who stated that he didnot see the effects of Guru in> Marana sthana to post the chart. There are MANY steps> to go through when examining Marana Sthana. I have taught the> students at SIVA each step. You have to find exactly>> 1. Whether there is Marana Karaka dosha or is cancelled. For> example If Surya is in Marana sthana and Guru is in kendra, a> person> will RISE in life against impossible odds. See the chart of> Mahatma Gandhi.> Similarly, there are such cancelling combinations for each> graha. There are> aslo night or day births to lessen or enhance marana sthana> effects, or> births in days or nights horas. THere are also planets which> can block> Marana> sthana planets etc.> 2. IF there is Marana sthana effect where it will hit? There> are different> rules> to find out exactly whether it will hit the bhava, bhavesha or> karaka.> 3. If right remedy is sellected it does wonders.> My Close friend has this problem. See the chart attached>> In this chart, Sk and Budha are in Marana Sthana.> I will try to give as breif analyses as I can> 1. Shukra can damage 6th house placement> 2. It can damage 7th house lordship> 3. It can damage 7th house primary karaka.> 4. It is further Cursed, Shukra Shapa.> Where it will hit.> 1. Chandra considerably helps to remove the dosha, and Chandra> is exalted in> 7th house as 9th lord,> so he can come out of.> 7th bhava is afflicted by budha otherwise, dharma> karmaadhipati Yoga with AK> is there.> With Shiva Mantra and Aditya mantra, he quickly remedied his> attitude> towards women,> and came out VERY quickly out of promiscuos phase, as well as> came out of> professional enemity and work> problems *planets in 6th house affect our work and job.> 7th lord is badly placed, so he will have to make decisions> under terrible> pressure, and the circumstances> when entering a relationship are alwyas bad. He also likes a> bad character> women. These is also to be> seen by 7th lord placement.> Karaka Shukra is in Marana sthana and cursed, so his luck is> gone.> The worst hit is on the karaka!. When cursed, and with neecha> Shani, the> only remedy is Kamala. He is> now preparing to do so. Till now, he has not had the long and> stable> relationship, and is still single.Thankfully> to Chandra the remedy will work wonders and oncoming Guru> dasha is to bring> marriage.> > This is such a long topic, and I belive that in near future I> can cover it> on> the blog.> Best wishes> Zoran Radosavljevic> www.siva-edu. com> jyotish blog at> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> > > [amar]> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com> [sohamsa@ .com]On Behalf Of> R.C.Srivastava> 26. rujan 2007 14:43> sohamsa@ .com> Re: remedy for MKS planets> > > Dear Zoran and friends,> I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the> thread> of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.> Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster> actually> causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events> and> creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real> impact it> has?> Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak> parijaat> independently to assess its damage and By the way,This> concept is in> real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file> of> astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have> proved?> I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it> in> terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge> This was> just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer> ever> wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.> With regards.> OM TAT SAT.> > sohamsa@ .com, "amar" <ahimsa wrote:> >> > Om Namah Shivaya,> > Dear Swati,> > You were on a good track.> > The main point is that people stress the damage to a house> where> Marana> > Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the> greatest> damage that> > is done.> > For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage> to a> marriage than> > to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often> misunderstood.> > Graha in marana stana will damage>> > 1. Bhavas ruled by it> > 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka> > 3. Bhava where it is placed> > Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3.> while> wearing a> > gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed> will> deal only> > with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining> to 1 and> 2 are> > related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.> > What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not> that> simple when> > trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana> sthana graha> is> > placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is> necessary,> or when> > such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain> will> come to> > a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the> process, such> > graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence> will> surely fail in> > such a graha,> > and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing> partially graha> > from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.> > Best wishes> > Zoran> >> > Zoran Radosavljevic> > www.siva-edu. com> > jyotish blog at> > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> >> >> > > > healing spaces [healingspac es]> > 17. rujan 2007 5:36> > ; ahimsa > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> >> >> > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah> > Dear Zoran,> >> > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt> Sanjayji> sometime back> > that i picked this thread.> > What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya> mantras and> > gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is> clearing> the bhava> > where MKS happens.> === message truncated ===____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Autos.http://autos. / new_cars. html

 

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Hare

Rama Krishna,

Dear

Michal,

If

the karaka of any bhava is a nicha and in MKS, it does not bode well for that

bhava. The simple thumb rules of Parasara that one is supposed to begin with in

analyzing a bhava, is the bhava itself, its lord and its karaka. So there must

be other factors influencing the 5th house and lord. Also, if Guru

is getting niche bhanga, it must be through the conventional method via Saturn,

Moon or Mars.

Sarbani

 

 

 

Michal Dziwulski

[nearmichal]

Sunday, September 30, 2007 12:00 AM

sohamsa

Re: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hare Rama Krsna ||

 

Dear Zoran,

 

What about debilitated planets in MKS - can this be a kind of

neechabhanga? Say for Scorpio Lagna, Jupiter in the 3rd house will give

good results, even for children as it is karaka and lord of the same. I

have seen a couple of charts with this, but perhaps there may other factors.

 

Respectfully,

Michal

 

 

amar <ahimsa

sohamsa

Friday, September 28, 2007 2:15:35 PM

RE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

 

Om Namah Shivaya,

 

 

Dear Krishna

 

 

Guru in Marana Sthana will give problems

 

 

1. In children front, marraige

 

 

2. Health/abdomen

 

 

There are two things which help out. First it is a day birth,

 

 

and second is vargottama ketu.

 

 

Be careful at Meena Narayan dasha which is starting at 2012.

 

 

The remedy is Mantra for Ganesha.

 

 

Best wishes

 

 

Zoran Radosavljevic

www.siva-edu. com

jyotish blog at

www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com

 

 

 

sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa]On

Behalf Of Krishnamurthy Seetharama

27. rujan 2007 6:20

sohamsa@ .com

RE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

Dear Zoran,

 

Here are my birth details:

 

DOB: 7-Sep-1958

TOB: 6:15 am

POB: Bangalore

 

Please let me know if there is a cancellation of MKS for

Jupiter. I did not see any such effects during my Jupiter MD.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

--- amar <ahimsa.

yu> wrote:

 

> Dear Srivastava,

> Yes Marana sthanas always work. I would alse request a list

> member who stated that he didnot see the effects of Guru in

> Marana sthana to post the chart. There are MANY steps

> to go through when examining Marana Sthana. I have taught the

> students at SIVA each step. You have to find exactly>

> 1. Whether there is Marana Karaka dosha or is cancelled. For

> example If Surya is in Marana sthana and Guru is in kendra, a

> person

> will RISE in life against impossible odds. See the chart of

> Mahatma Gandhi.

> Similarly, there are such cancelling combinations for each

> graha. There are

> aslo night or day births to lessen or enhance marana sthana

> effects, or

> births in days or nights horas. THere are also planets which

> can block

> Marana

> sthana planets etc.

> 2. IF there is Marana sthana effect where it will hit? There

> are different

> rules

> to find out exactly whether it will hit the bhava, bhavesha or

> karaka.

> 3. If right remedy is sellected it does wonders.

> My Close friend has this problem. See the chart attached>

> In this chart, Sk and Budha are in Marana Sthana.

> I will try to give as breif analyses as I can

> 1. Shukra can damage 6th house placement

> 2. It can damage 7th house lordship

> 3. It can damage 7th house primary karaka.

> 4. It is further Cursed, Shukra Shapa.

> Where it will hit.

> 1. Chandra considerably helps to remove the dosha, and Chandra

> is exalted in

> 7th house as 9th lord,

> so he can come out of.

> 7th bhava is afflicted by budha otherwise, dharma

> karmaadhipati Yoga with AK

> is there.

> With Shiva Mantra and Aditya mantra, he quickly remedied his

> attitude

> towards women,

> and came out VERY quickly out of promiscuos phase, as well as

> came out of

> professional enemity and work

> problems *planets in 6th house affect our work and job.

> 7th lord is badly placed, so he will have to make decisions

> under terrible

> pressure, and the circumstances

> when entering a relationship are alwyas bad. He also likes a

> bad character

> women. These is also to be

> seen by 7th lord placement.

> Karaka Shukra is in Marana sthana and cursed, so his luck is

> gone.

> The worst hit is on the karaka!. When cursed, and with neecha

> Shani, the

> only remedy is Kamala. He is

> now preparing to do so. Till now, he has not had the long and

> stable

> relationship, and is still single.Thankfully

> to Chandra the remedy will work wonders and oncoming Guru

> dasha is to bring

> marriage.

>

> This is such a long topic, and I belive that in near future I

> can cover it

> on

> the blog.

> Best wishes

> Zoran Radosavljevic

> www.siva-edu. com

> jyotish blog at

> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com

>

>

> [amar]

>

>

>

>

>

> sohamsa@

..com

> [sohamsa@

..com]On Behalf Of

> R.C.Srivastava

> 26. rujan 2007 14:43

> sohamsa@

..com

> Re: remedy for MKS planets

>

>

> Dear Zoran and friends,

> I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the

> thread

> of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.

> Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster

> actually

> causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events

> and

> creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real

> impact it

> has?

> Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak

> parijaat

> independently to assess its damage and By the way,This

> concept is in

> real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file

> of

> astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have

> proved?

> I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it

> in

> terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge

> This was

> just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer

> ever

> wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.

> With regards.

> OM TAT SAT.

>

> sohamsa@

..com, " amar " <ahimsa wrote:

> >

> > Om Namah Shivaya,

> > Dear Swati,

> > You were on a good track.

> > The main point is that people stress the damage to a house

> where

> Marana

> > Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the

> greatest

> damage that

> > is done.

> > For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage

> to a

> marriage than

> > to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often

> misunderstood.

> > Graha in marana stana will damage>

> > 1. Bhavas ruled by it

> > 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka

> > 3. Bhava where it is placed

> > Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3.

> while

> wearing a

> > gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed

> will

> deal only

> > with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining

> to 1 and

> 2 are

> > related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.

> > What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not

> that

> simple when

> > trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana

> sthana graha

> is

> > placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is

> necessary,

> or when

> > such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain

> will

> come to

> > a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the

> process, such

> > graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence

> will

> surely fail in

> > such a graha,

> > and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing

> partially graha

> > from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.

> > Best wishes

> > Zoran

> >

> > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > www.siva-edu. com

> > jyotish blog at

> > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com

> >

> >

> >

> > healing spaces [healingspac es]

> > 17. rujan 2007 5:36

> > @

. com; ahimsa

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets

> >

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah

> > Dear Zoran,

> >

> > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt

> Sanjayji

> sometime back

> > that i picked this thread.

> > What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya

> mantras and

> > gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is

> clearing

> the bhava

> > where MKS happens.

>

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Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Sarbani,Thank you for your reply. When I mentioned neechabhanga I did not explain clearly. What I was asking is if a planet is debilitated in MKS can it give good results ie. the opposite of what one would expect. Perhaps in a similar way when a planet is debilitated and retrograde we see a reversal of effects. A debilitated planet is not likely to give good results, but then if those poor results are also dying because of MKS then perhaps that is a good thing.The chart I have in mind has Guru debilitated in third house. Her brother died very early of a terrible disease, so the house definately was badly affected. However, she has 7 beautiful children, which is

exceptional. So in this case we can see the bhava was hit by why the karaka gave such good results?Respectfully,MichalSarbani Rath <sarbanisohamsa Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 9:53:47 AMRE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

 

 

Hare

Rama Krishna, Dear

Michal, If

the karaka of any bhava is a nicha and in MKS, it does not bode well for that

bhava. The simple thumb rules of Parasara that one is supposed to begin with in

analyzing a bhava, is the bhava itself, its lord and its karaka. So there must

be other factors influencing the 5th house and lord. Also, if Guru

is getting niche bhanga, it must be through the conventional method via Saturn,

Moon or Mars. Sarbani

 

Michal Dziwulski

[nearmichal@ ]

Sunday, September 30, 2007 12:00 AM

sohamsa@ .com

Re: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

 

 

 

 

Hare Rama Krsna ||

 

Dear Zoran,

 

What about debilitated planets in MKS - can this be a kind of

neechabhanga? Say for Scorpio Lagna, Jupiter in the 3rd house will give

good results, even for children as it is karaka and lord of the same. I

have seen a couple of charts with this, but perhaps there may other factors.

 

Respectfully,

Michal

 

amar <ahimsa. yu>

sohamsa@ .com

Friday, September 28, 2007 2:15:35 PM

RE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

Om Namah Shivaya,

 

Dear Krishna

 

Guru in Marana Sthana will give problems

 

1. In children front, marraige

 

2. Health/abdomen

 

There are two things which help out. First it is a day birth,

 

and second is vargottama ketu.

 

Be careful at Meena Narayan dasha which is starting at 2012.

 

The remedy is Mantra for Ganesha.

 

Best wishes

 

Zoran Radosavljevic

www.siva-edu. com

jyotish blog at

www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com

 

 

sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa]On

Behalf Of Krishnamurthy Seetharama

27. rujan 2007 6:20

sohamsa@ .com

RE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

Dear Zoran,

 

Here are my birth details:

 

DOB: 7-Sep-1958

TOB: 6:15 am

POB: Bangalore

 

Please let me know if there is a cancellation of MKS for

Jupiter. I did not see any such effects during my Jupiter MD.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

--- amar <ahimsa.

yu> wrote:

 

> Dear Srivastava,

> Yes Marana sthanas always work. I would alse request a list

> member who stated that he didnot see the effects of Guru in

> Marana sthana to post the chart. There are MANY steps

> to go through when examining Marana Sthana. I have taught the

> students at SIVA each step. You have to find exactly>

> 1. Whether there is Marana Karaka dosha or is cancelled. For

> example If Surya is in Marana sthana and Guru is in kendra, a

> person

> will RISE in life against impossible odds. See the chart of

> Mahatma Gandhi.

> Similarly, there are such cancelling combinations for each

> graha. There are

> aslo night or day births to lessen or enhance marana sthana

> effects, or

> births in days or nights horas. THere are also planets which

> can block

> Marana

> sthana planets etc.

> 2. IF there is Marana sthana effect where it will hit? There

> are different

> rules

> to find out exactly whether it will hit the bhava, bhavesha or

> karaka.

> 3. If right remedy is sellected it does wonders.

> My Close friend has this problem. See the chart attached>

> In this chart, Sk and Budha are in Marana Sthana.

> I will try to give as breif analyses as I can

> 1. Shukra can damage 6th house placement

> 2. It can damage 7th house lordship

> 3. It can damage 7th house primary karaka.

> 4. It is further Cursed, Shukra Shapa.

> Where it will hit.

> 1. Chandra considerably helps to remove the dosha, and Chandra

> is exalted in

> 7th house as 9th lord,

> so he can come out of.

> 7th bhava is afflicted by budha otherwise, dharma

> karmaadhipati Yoga with AK

> is there.

> With Shiva Mantra and Aditya mantra, he quickly remedied his

> attitude

> towards women,

> and came out VERY quickly out of promiscuos phase, as well as

> came out of

> professional enemity and work

> problems *planets in 6th house affect our work and job.

> 7th lord is badly placed, so he will have to make decisions

> under terrible

> pressure, and the circumstances

> when entering a relationship are alwyas bad. He also likes a

> bad character

> women. These is also to be

> seen by 7th lord placement.

> Karaka Shukra is in Marana sthana and cursed, so his luck is

> gone.

> The worst hit is on the karaka!. When cursed, and with neecha

> Shani, the

> only remedy is Kamala. He is

> now preparing to do so. Till now, he has not had the long and

> stable

> relationship, and is still single.Thankfully

> to Chandra the remedy will work wonders and oncoming Guru

> dasha is to bring

> marriage.

>

> This is such a long topic, and I belive that in near future I

> can cover it

> on

> the blog.

> Best wishes

> Zoran Radosavljevic

> www.siva-edu. com

> jyotish blog at

> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com

>

>

> [amar]

>

>

>

>

>

> sohamsa@

..com

> [sohamsa@

..com]On Behalf Of

> R.C.Srivastava

> 26. rujan 2007 14:43

> sohamsa@

..com

> Re: remedy for MKS planets

>

>

> Dear Zoran and friends,

> I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the

> thread

> of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.

> Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster

> actually

> causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events

> and

> creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real

> impact it

> has?

> Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak

> parijaat

> independently to assess its damage and By the way,This

> concept is in

> real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file

> of

> astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have

> proved?

> I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it

> in

> terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge

> This was

> just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer

> ever

> wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.

> With regards.

> OM TAT SAT.

>

> sohamsa@

..com, "amar" <ahimsa wrote:

> >

> > Om Namah Shivaya,

> > Dear Swati,

> > You were on a good track.

> > The main point is that people stress the damage to a house

> where

> Marana

> > Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the

> greatest

> damage that

> > is done.

> > For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage

> to a

> marriage than

> > to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often

> misunderstood.

> > Graha in marana stana will damage>

> > 1. Bhavas ruled by it

> > 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka

> > 3. Bhava where it is placed

> > Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3.

> while

> wearing a

> > gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed

> will

> deal only

> > with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining

> to 1 and

> 2 are

> > related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.

> > What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not

> that

> simple when

> > trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana

> sthana graha

> is

> > placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is

> necessary,

> or when

> > such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain

> will

> come to

> > a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the

> process, such

> > graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence

> will

> surely fail in

> > such a graha,

> > and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing

> partially graha

> > from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.

> > Best wishes

> > Zoran

> >

> > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > www.siva-edu. com

> > jyotish blog at

> > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com

> >

> >

> >

> > healing spaces [healingspac es]

> > 17. rujan 2007 5:36

> > @

. com; ahimsa

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets

> >

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah

> > Dear Zoran,

> >

> > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt

> Sanjayji

> sometime back

> > that i picked this thread.

> > What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya

> mantras and

> > gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is

> clearing

> the bhava

> > where MKS happens.

>

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Om Gurave Namah Dear Michal, Can you please provide birth data for the chart you`ve mentioned. I would like to see the saptamsa as this really sounds exceptional. Warm regards, TijanaMichal Dziwulski <nearmichal wrote: Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Sarbani,Thank you for your reply. When I mentioned neechabhanga I did not

explain clearly. What I was asking is if a planet is debilitated in MKS can it give good results ie. the opposite of what one would expect. Perhaps in a similar way when a planet is debilitated and retrograde we see a reversal of effects. A debilitated planet is not likely to give good results, but then if those poor results are also dying because of MKS then perhaps that is a good thing.The chart I have in mind has Guru debilitated in third house. Her brother died very early of a terrible disease, so the house definately was badly affected. However, she has 7 beautiful children, which is exceptional. So in this case we can see the bhava was hit by why the karaka gave such good results?Respectfully,Michal Sarbani Rath

<sarbani (AT) (DOT) org>sohamsa Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 9:53:47 AMRE: Re: remedy for MKS planets Hare Rama Krishna, Dear Michal, If the karaka of any bhava is a nicha and in MKS, it does not bode well for that bhava. The simple thumb rules of Parasara that one is supposed to begin with in analyzing a bhava, is the bhava itself, its lord and its karaka. So there must be other factors influencing the 5th house and lord. Also, if Guru is getting niche bhanga, it must be through the conventional method via Saturn, Moon or Mars. Sarbani Michal Dziwulski [nearmichal@ ] Sunday, September 30, 2007 12:00 AMsohamsa@ .comRe: Re: remedy for MKS planets Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Zoran,What about debilitated planets in MKS - can this be a kind of neechabhanga? Say for Scorpio Lagna, Jupiter in the 3rd house will give good results, even for children as it is karaka and lord of the same. I have seen a couple of charts with this, but perhaps there may other

factors.Respectfully,Michal amar <ahimsa. yu>sohamsa@ .comFriday, September 28, 2007 2:15:35 PMRE: Re: remedy for MKS planets Om Namah Shivaya, Dear Krishna Guru in Marana Sthana will give problems 1. In children front, marraige 2. Health/abdomen There are two things which help out. First it is a day birth, and second is vargottama ketu. Be careful at Meena Narayan dasha which is starting at 2012. The remedy is Mantra for Ganesha. Best wishes Zoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu. comjyotish blog atwww.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa]On Behalf Of Krishnamurthy

Seetharama27. rujan 2007 6:20sohamsa@ .comRE: Re: remedy for MKS planets Dear Zoran,Here are my birth details:DOB: 7-Sep-1958TOB: 6:15 amPOB: BangalorePlease let me know if there is a cancellation of MKS forJupiter. I did not see any such effects during my Jupiter MD.Regards,Krishna--- amar <ahimsa. yu> wrote:> Dear Srivastava,> Yes Marana sthanas always work. I would alse request a list> member who stated that he didnot see the effects of Guru in> Marana sthana to post the chart. There are MANY steps> to go through when examining Marana Sthana. I have taught the> students at SIVA each step. You have to find exactly>> 1. Whether there is Marana Karaka dosha or is cancelled.

For> example If Surya is in Marana sthana and Guru is in kendra, a> person> will RISE in life against impossible odds. See the chart of> Mahatma Gandhi.> Similarly, there are such cancelling combinations for each> graha. There are> aslo night or day births to lessen or enhance marana sthana> effects, or> births in days or nights horas. THere are also planets which> can block> Marana> sthana planets etc.> 2. IF there is Marana sthana effect where it will hit? There> are different> rules> to find out exactly whether it will hit the bhava, bhavesha or> karaka.> 3. If right remedy is sellected it does wonders.> My Close friend has this problem. See the chart attached>> In this chart, Sk and Budha are in Marana Sthana.> I will try to give as breif analyses as I can> 1. Shukra can damage 6th house placement> 2. It can

damage 7th house lordship> 3. It can damage 7th house primary karaka.> 4. It is further Cursed, Shukra Shapa.> Where it will hit.> 1. Chandra considerably helps to remove the dosha, and Chandra> is exalted in> 7th house as 9th lord,> so he can come out of.> 7th bhava is afflicted by budha otherwise, dharma> karmaadhipati Yoga with AK> is there.> With Shiva Mantra and Aditya mantra, he quickly remedied his> attitude> towards women,> and came out VERY quickly out of promiscuos phase, as well as> came out of> professional enemity and work> problems *planets in 6th house affect our work and job.> 7th lord is badly placed, so he will have to make decisions> under terrible> pressure, and the circumstances> when entering a relationship are alwyas bad. He also likes a> bad character> women. These is also to be> seen

by 7th lord placement.> Karaka Shukra is in Marana sthana and cursed, so his luck is> gone.> The worst hit is on the karaka!. When cursed, and with neecha> Shani, the> only remedy is Kamala. He is> now preparing to do so. Till now, he has not had the long and> stable> relationship, and is still single.Thankfully> to Chandra the remedy will work wonders and oncoming Guru> dasha is to bring> marriage.> > This is such a long topic, and I belive that in near future I> can cover it> on> the blog.> Best wishes> Zoran Radosavljevic> www.siva-edu. com> jyotish blog at> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> > > [amar]> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com> [sohamsa@ .com]On Behalf Of> R.C.Srivastava> 26. rujan 2007 14:43> sohamsa@ .com> Re: remedy for MKS planets> > > Dear Zoran and friends,> I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the> thread> of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.> Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster> actually> causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events> and> creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real> impact it> has?> Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak> parijaat> independently to assess its damage and By the way,This> concept is in> real circulation since

around year 2000 among rank and file> of> astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have> proved?> I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it> in> terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge> This was> just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer> ever> wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.> With regards.> OM TAT SAT.> > sohamsa@ .com, "amar" <ahimsa wrote:> >> > Om Namah Shivaya,> > Dear Swati,> > You were on a good track.> > The main point is that people stress the damage to a house> where> Marana> > Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the> greatest> damage that> > is done.> > For example,

Shukra in 6th house will create more damage> to a> marriage than> > to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often> misunderstood.> > Graha in marana stana will damage>> > 1. Bhavas ruled by it> > 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka> > 3. Bhava where it is placed> > Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3.> while> wearing a> > gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed> will> deal only> > with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining> to 1 and> 2 are> > related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.> > What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not> that> simple when> > trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana> sthana graha> is> > placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship

is> necessary,> or when> > such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain> will> come to> > a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the> process, such> > graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence> will> surely fail in> > such a graha,> > and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing> partially graha> > from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.> > Best wishes> > Zoran> >> > Zoran Radosavljevic> > www.siva-edu. com> > jyotish blog at> > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> >> >> > > > healing spaces [healingspac es]> > 17. rujan 2007 5:36> > ; ahimsa > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> >> >> > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah> > Dear Zoran,> >> > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt> Sanjayji> sometime back> > that i picked this thread.> > What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya> mantras and> > gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is> clearing> the bhava> > where MKS happens.> === message truncated ===____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Autos.http://autos. / new_cars. html Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel. Building a website is a piece of cake. Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.

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Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Tijana,Birth details are 12:10pm, 28 Oct 1961, Ashford, UK.This gives Scorpio Lagna right on the cusp of Sagitarius. The Saptamsa is not rectified, but what I can tell you is that she had twin girls first, followed by two other children to the same partner. She has 3 children to another partner. Let me know your thoughts.Respectfully,Michaltijana damjanovic <tijanadamjanovicsohamsa Sent: Monday, October 1,

2007 8:23:20 AMRe: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

Om Gurave Namah Dear Michal, Can you please provide birth data for the chart you`ve mentioned. I would like to see the saptamsa as this really sounds exceptional. Warm regards, TijanaMichal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote: Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Sarbani,Thank you for your reply. When I mentioned neechabhanga I did not

explain clearly. What I was asking is if a planet is debilitated in MKS can it give good results ie. the opposite of what one would expect. Perhaps in a similar way when a planet is debilitated and retrograde we see a reversal of effects. A debilitated planet is not likely to give good results, but then if those poor results are also dying because of MKS then perhaps that is a good thing.The chart I have in mind has Guru debilitated in third house. Her brother died very early of a terrible disease, so the house definately was badly affected. However, she has 7 beautiful children, which is exceptional. So in this case we can see the bhava was hit by why the karaka gave such good results?Respectfully,Michal Sarbani Rath

<sarbani@srijagannat h.org>sohamsa@ .comSunday, September 30, 2007 9:53:47 AMRE: Re: remedy for MKS planets Hare Rama Krishna, Dear Michal, If the karaka of any bhava is a nicha and in MKS, it does not bode well for that bhava. The simple thumb rules of Parasara that one is supposed to begin with in analyzing a bhava, is the bhava itself, its lord and its karaka. So there must be other factors influencing the 5th house and lord. Also, if Guru is getting niche bhanga, it must be through the conventional method via Saturn, Moon or Mars. Sarbani Michal Dziwulski [nearmichal@ ] Sunday, September 30, 2007 12:00 AMsohamsa@ .comRe: Re: remedy for MKS planets Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Zoran,What about debilitated planets in MKS - can this be a kind of neechabhanga? Say for Scorpio Lagna, Jupiter in the 3rd house will give good results, even for children as it is karaka and lord of the same. I have seen a couple of

charts with this, but perhaps there may other

factors.Respectfully,Michal amar <ahimsa. yu>sohamsa@ .comFriday, September 28, 2007 2:15:35 PMRE: Re: remedy for MKS planets Om Namah Shivaya, Dear Krishna Guru in Marana Sthana will give problems 1. In children front, marraige 2. Health/abdomen There are two things which help out. First it is a day birth, and second is vargottama ketu. Be careful at Meena Narayan dasha which is starting at 2012. The remedy is Mantra for Ganesha. Best wishes Zoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu. comjyotish blog atwww.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com sohamsa@ .com

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Seetharama27. rujan 2007 6:20sohamsa@ .comRE: Re: remedy for MKS planets Dear Zoran,Here are my birth details:DOB: 7-Sep-1958TOB: 6:15 amPOB: BangalorePlease let me know if there is a cancellation of MKS forJupiter. I did not see any such effects during my Jupiter MD.Regards,Krishna--- amar <ahimsa. yu> wrote:> Dear Srivastava,> Yes Marana sthanas always work. I would alse request a list> member who stated that he didnot see the effects of Guru in> Marana sthana to post the chart. There are MANY steps> to go through when examining Marana Sthana. I have taught the> students at SIVA each step. You have to find exactly>> 1. Whether there is Marana

Karaka dosha or is cancelled.

For> example If Surya is in Marana sthana and Guru is in kendra, a> person> will RISE in life against impossible odds. See the chart of> Mahatma Gandhi.> Similarly, there are such cancelling combinations for each> graha. There are> aslo night or day births to lessen or enhance marana sthana> effects, or> births in days or nights horas. THere are also planets which> can block> Marana> sthana planets etc.> 2. IF there is Marana sthana effect where it will hit? There> are different> rules> to find out exactly whether it will hit the bhava, bhavesha or> karaka.> 3. If right remedy is sellected it does wonders.> My Close friend has this problem. See the chart attached>> In this chart, Sk and Budha are in Marana Sthana.> I will try to give as breif analyses as I can> 1. Shukra can damage 6th house

placement> 2. It can

damage 7th house lordship> 3. It can damage 7th house primary karaka.> 4. It is further Cursed, Shukra Shapa.> Where it will hit.> 1. Chandra considerably helps to remove the dosha, and Chandra> is exalted in> 7th house as 9th lord,> so he can come out of.> 7th bhava is afflicted by budha otherwise, dharma> karmaadhipati Yoga with AK> is there.> With Shiva Mantra and Aditya mantra, he quickly remedied his> attitude> towards women,> and came out VERY quickly out of promiscuos phase, as well as> came out of> professional enemity and work> problems *planets in 6th house affect our work and job.> 7th lord is badly placed, so he will have to make decisions> under terrible> pressure, and the circumstances> when entering a relationship are alwyas bad. He also likes a> bad character> women. These is

also to be> seen

by 7th lord placement.> Karaka Shukra is in Marana sthana and cursed, so his luck is> gone.> The worst hit is on the karaka!. When cursed, and with neecha> Shani, the> only remedy is Kamala. He is> now preparing to do so. Till now, he has not had the long and> stable> relationship, and is still single.Thankfully> to Chandra the remedy will work wonders and oncoming Guru> dasha is to bring> marriage.> > This is such a long topic, and I belive that in near future I> can cover it> on> the blog.> Best wishes> Zoran Radosavljevic> www.siva-edu. com> jyotish blog at> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> > > [amar]> > > > > > sohamsa@

..com> [sohamsa@ .com]On Behalf Of> R.C.Srivastava> 26. rujan 2007 14:43> sohamsa@ .com> Re: remedy for MKS planets> > > Dear Zoran and friends,> I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the> thread> of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.> Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster> actually> causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events> and> creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real> impact it> has?> Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak> parijaat> independently to assess its damage and By the

way,This> concept is in> real circulation since

around year 2000 among rank and file> of> astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have> proved?> I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it> in> terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge> This was> just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer> ever> wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.> With regards.> OM TAT SAT.> > sohamsa@ .com, "amar" <ahimsa wrote:> >> > Om Namah Shivaya,> > Dear Swati,> > You were on a good track.> > The main point is that people stress the damage to a house> where> Marana> > Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the> greatest> damage that> > is

done.> > For example,

Shukra in 6th house will create more damage> to a> marriage than> > to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often> misunderstood.> > Graha in marana stana will damage>> > 1. Bhavas ruled by it> > 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka> > 3. Bhava where it is placed> > Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3.> while> wearing a> > gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed> will> deal only> > with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining> to 1 and> 2 are> > related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.> > What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not> that> simple when> > trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana> sthana graha> is> > placed in Chandradhi Yoga then

Adhi devata worship

is> necessary,> or when> > such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain> will> come to> > a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the> process, such> > graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence> will> surely fail in> > such a graha,> > and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing> partially graha> > from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.> > Best wishes> > Zoran> >> > Zoran Radosavljevic> > www.siva-edu. com> > jyotish blog at> > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> >> >> > > > healing spaces [healingspac es]> > 17. rujan 2007 5:36> > ; ahimsa > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> >> >> > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah> > Dear Zoran,> >> > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt> Sanjayji> sometime back> > that i picked this thread.> > What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya> mantras and> > gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is> clearing> the bhava> > where MKS happens.> === message truncated ===____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Autos.http://autos. / new_cars.

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Om Namah Shivaya,

I would agree with Sarbani. Please check Neecha bhanga Yogas.

If planets giving neecha bhanga Yoga are in fire/water signs in

Navamsa, a birth of many children is promised.What you suggest

sounds strange. It can only apply to Shani and Mangal whose position

in Rashi chart in Marana sthana will give during their dasas Raja Yogas,

provided they are not in exalted navamsas.

Guru in debilitation for Scorpio Lagna can give many children provided

that Shukra is placed in 3rd or 9h house or Mars is placed in 3rd, 5th,6th,

8th,9th, 11 or 12th houses.

Best wishes

Zoran

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sohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski30. rujan 2007 19:58sohamsa Subject: Re: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

 

 

Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Sarbani,Thank you for your reply. When I mentioned neechabhanga I did not explain clearly. What I was asking is if a planet is debilitated in MKS can it give good results ie. the opposite of what one would expect. Perhaps in a similar way when a planet is debilitated and retrograde we see a reversal of effects. A debilitated planet is not likely to give good results, but then if those poor results are also dying because of MKS then perhaps that is a good thing.The chart I have in mind has Guru debilitated in third house. Her brother died very early of a terrible disease, so the house definately was badly affected. However, she has 7 beautiful children, which is exceptional. So in this case we can see the bhava was hit by why the karaka gave such good results?Respectfully,Michal

Sarbani Rath <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org>sohamsa Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 9:53:47 AMRE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

 

 

Hare Rama Krishna,

Dear Michal,

If the karaka of any bhava is a nicha and in MKS, it does not bode well for that bhava. The simple thumb rules of Parasara that one is supposed to begin with in analyzing a bhava, is the bhava itself, its lord and its karaka. So there must be other factors influencing the 5th house and lord. Also, if Guru is getting niche bhanga, it must be through the conventional method via Saturn, Moon or Mars.

Sarbani

 

 

 

Michal Dziwulski [nearmichal@ ] Sunday, September 30, 2007 12:00 AMsohamsa@ .comRe: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Zoran,What about debilitated planets in MKS - can this be a kind of neechabhanga? Say for Scorpio Lagna, Jupiter in the 3rd house will give good results, even for children as it is karaka and lord of the same. I have seen a couple of charts with this, but perhaps there may other factors.Respectfully,Michal

 

amar <ahimsa. yu>sohamsa@ .comFriday, September 28, 2007 2:15:35 PMRE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

 

Om Namah Shivaya,

 

Dear Krishna

 

Guru in Marana Sthana will give problems

 

1. In children front, marraige

 

2. Health/abdomen

 

There are two things which help out. First it is a day birth,

 

and second is vargottama ketu.

 

Be careful at Meena Narayan dasha which is starting at 2012.

 

The remedy is Mantra for Ganesha.

 

Best wishes

 

Zoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu. comjyotish blog atwww.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com

 

sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa]On Behalf Of Krishnamurthy Seetharama27. rujan 2007 6:20sohamsa@ .comRE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

Dear Zoran,Here are my birth details:DOB: 7-Sep-1958TOB: 6:15 amPOB: BangalorePlease let me know if there is a cancellation of MKS forJupiter. I did not see any such effects during my Jupiter MD.Regards,Krishna--- amar <ahimsa. yu> wrote:> Dear Srivastava,> Yes Marana sthanas always work. I would alse request a list> member who stated that he didnot see the effects of Guru in> Marana sthana to post the chart. There are MANY steps> to go through when examining Marana Sthana. I have taught the> students at SIVA each step. You have to find exactly>> 1. Whether there is Marana Karaka dosha or is cancelled. For> example If Surya is in Marana sthana and Guru is in kendra, a> person> will RISE in life against impossible odds. See the chart of> Mahatma Gandhi.> Similarly, there are such cancelling combinations for each> graha. There are> aslo night or day births to lessen or enhance marana sthana> effects, or> births in days or nights horas. THere are also planets which> can block> Marana> sthana planets etc.> 2. IF there is Marana sthana effect where it will hit? There> are different> rules> to find out exactly whether it will hit the bhava, bhavesha or> karaka.> 3. If right remedy is sellected it does wonders.> My Close friend has this problem. See the chart attached>> In this chart, Sk and Budha are in Marana Sthana.> I will try to give as breif analyses as I can> 1. Shukra can damage 6th house placement> 2. It can damage 7th house lordship> 3. It can damage 7th house primary karaka.> 4. It is further Cursed, Shukra Shapa.> Where it will hit.> 1. Chandra considerably helps to remove the dosha, and Chandra> is exalted in> 7th house as 9th lord,> so he can come out of.> 7th bhava is afflicted by budha otherwise, dharma> karmaadhipati Yoga with AK> is there.> With Shiva Mantra and Aditya mantra, he quickly remedied his> attitude> towards women,> and came out VERY quickly out of promiscuos phase, as well as> came out of> professional enemity and work> problems *planets in 6th house affect our work and job.> 7th lord is badly placed, so he will have to make decisions> under terrible> pressure, and the circumstances> when entering a relationship are alwyas bad. He also likes a> bad character> women. These is also to be> seen by 7th lord placement.> Karaka Shukra is in Marana sthana and cursed, so his luck is> gone.> The worst hit is on the karaka!. When cursed, and with neecha> Shani, the> only remedy is Kamala. He is> now preparing to do so. Till now, he has not had the long and> stable> relationship, and is still single.Thankfully> to Chandra the remedy will work wonders and oncoming Guru> dasha is to bring> marriage.> > This is such a long topic, and I belive that in near future I> can cover it> on> the blog.> Best wishes> Zoran Radosavljevic> www.siva-edu. com> jyotish blog at> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> > > [amar]> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com> [sohamsa@ .com]On Behalf Of> R.C.Srivastava> 26. rujan 2007 14:43> sohamsa@ .com> Re: remedy for MKS planets> > > Dear Zoran and friends,> I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the> thread> of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.> Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster> actually> causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events> and> creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real> impact it> has?> Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak> parijaat> independently to assess its damage and By the way,This> concept is in> real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file> of> astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have> proved?> I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it> in> terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge> This was> just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer> ever> wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.> With regards.> OM TAT SAT.> > sohamsa@ .com, "amar" <ahimsa wrote:> >> > Om Namah Shivaya,> > Dear Swati,> > You were on a good track.> > The main point is that people stress the damage to a house> where> Marana> > Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the> greatest> damage that> > is done.> > For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage> to a> marriage than> > to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often> misunderstood.> > Graha in marana stana will damage>> > 1. Bhavas ruled by it> > 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka> > 3. Bhava where it is placed> > Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3.> while> wearing a> > gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed> will> deal only> > with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining> to 1 and> 2 are> > related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.> > What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not> that> simple when> > trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana> sthana graha> is> > placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is> necessary,> or when> > such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain> will> come to> > a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the> process, such> > graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence> will> surely fail in> > such a graha,> > and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing> partially graha> > from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.> > Best wishes> > Zoran> >> > Zoran Radosavljevic> > www.siva-edu. com> > jyotish blog at> > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> >> >> > > > healing spaces [healingspac es]> > 17. rujan 2007 5:36> > ; ahimsa > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> >> >> > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah> > Dear Zoran,> >> > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt> Sanjayji> sometime back> > that i picked this thread.> > What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya> mantras and> > gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is> clearing> the bhava> > where MKS happens.> === message truncated ===____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Autos.http://autos. / new_cars. html

 

 

 

 

 

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||Om Gurave Namah||Dear Michal, NamaskaarWas it her elder brother who died?Best RegardsJai JagannathAjay Zharotiaajayzharotia On 01-Oct-07, at 4:54 AM, Michal Dziwulski wrote:Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Tijana,Birth details are 12:10pm,  28 Oct 1961, Ashford, UK.This gives Scorpio Lagna right on the cusp of Sagitarius.  The Saptamsa is not rectified, but what I can tell you is that she had twin girls first, followed by two other children to the same partner.  She has 3 children to another partner.  Let me know your thoughts.Respectfully,Michaltijana damjanovic <tijanadamjanovic >sohamsa Sent: Monday, October 1, 2007 8:23:20 AMRe: Re: remedy for MKS planetsOm Gurave NamahDear Michal,Can you please provide birth data for the chart you`ve mentioned. I would like to see the saptamsa as this really sounds exceptional.Warm regards,TijanaMichal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote:Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Sarbani,Thank you for your reply.  When I mentioned neechabhanga I did not explain clearly.  What I was asking is if a planet is debilitated in MKS can it give good results ie. the opposite of what one would expect.  Perhaps in a similar way when a planet is debilitated and retrograde we see a reversal of effects.  A debilitated planet is not likely to give good results, but then if those poor results are also dying because of MKS then perhaps that is a good thing.The chart I have in mind has Guru debilitated in third house.  Her brother died very early of a terrible disease, so the house definately was badly affected.  However, she has 7 beautiful children, which is exceptional.  So in this case we can see the bhava was hit by why the karaka gave such good results?Respectfully,MichalSarbani Rath <sarbani@srijagannat h.org>sohamsa@ .comSunday, September 30, 2007 9:53:47 AMRE: Re: remedy for MKS planetsHare Rama Krishna,Dear Michal,If the karaka of any bhava is a nicha and in MKS, it does not bode well for that bhava. The simple thumb rules of Parasara that one is supposed to begin with in analyzing a bhava, is the bhava itself, its lord and its karaka. So there must be other factors influencing the 5th house and lord. Also, if Guru is getting niche bhanga, it must be through the conventional method via Saturn, Moon or Mars.Sarbani Michal Dziwulski [nearmichal@ ] Sunday, September 30, 2007 12:00 AMsohamsa@ .comRe: Re: remedy for MKS planets Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Zoran,What about debilitated planets in MKS - can this be a kind of neechabhanga?  Say for Scorpio Lagna, Jupiter in the 3rd house will give good results, even for children as it is karaka and lord of the same.  I have seen a couple of charts with this, but perhaps there may other factors.Respectfully,Michalamar <ahimsa. yu>sohamsa@ .comFriday, September 28, 2007 2:15:35 PMRE: Re: remedy for MKS planetsOm Namah Shivaya,Dear KrishnaGuru in Marana Sthana will give problems1. In children front, marraige2. Health/abdomenThere are two things which help out. First it is a day birth,and second is vargottama ketu.Be careful at Meena Narayan dasha which is starting at 2012.The remedy is Mantra for Ganesha.Best wishesZoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu. comjyotish blog atwww.ahimsazr1. wordpress. comsohamsa@ .com [sohamsa]On Behalf Of Krishnamurthy Seetharama27. rujan 2007 6:20sohamsa@ .comRE: Re: remedy for MKS planetsDear Zoran,Here are my birth details:DOB: 7-Sep-1958TOB: 6:15 amPOB: BangalorePlease let me know if there is a cancellation of MKS forJupiter. I did not see any such effects during my Jupiter MD.Regards,Krishna--- amar <ahimsa. yu> wrote:> Dear Srivastava,> Yes Marana sthanas always work. I would alse request a list> member who stated that he didnot see the effects of Guru in> Marana sthana to post the chart. There are MANY steps> to go through when examining Marana Sthana. I have taught the> students at SIVA each step. You have to find exactly>> 1. Whether there is Marana Karaka dosha or is cancelled. For> example If Surya is in Marana sthana and Guru is in kendra, a> person> will RISE in life against impossible odds. See the chart of> Mahatma Gandhi.> Similarly, there are such cancelling combinations for each> graha. There are> aslo night or day births to lessen or enhance marana sthana> effects, or> births in days or nights horas. THere are also planets which> can block> Marana> sthana planets etc.> 2. IF there is Marana sthana effect where it will hit? There> are different> rules> to find out exactly whether it will hit the bhava, bhavesha or> karaka.> 3. If right remedy is sellected it does wonders.> My Close friend has this problem. See the chart attached>> In this chart, Sk and Budha are in Marana Sthana.> I will try to give as breif analyses as I can> 1. Shukra can damage 6th house placement> 2. It can damage 7th house lordship> 3. It can damage 7th house primary karaka.> 4. It is further Cursed, Shukra Shapa.> Where it will hit.> 1. Chandra considerably helps to remove the dosha, and Chandra> is exalted in> 7th house as 9th lord,> so he can come out of.> 7th bhava is afflicted by budha otherwise, dharma> karmaadhipati Yoga with AK> is there.> With Shiva Mantra and Aditya mantra, he quickly remedied his> attitude> towards women,> and came out VERY quickly out of promiscuos phase, as well as> came out of> professional enemity and work> problems *planets in 6th house affect our work and job.> 7th lord is badly placed, so he will have to make decisions> under terrible> pressure, and the circumstances> when entering a relationship are alwyas bad. He also likes a> bad character> women. These is also to be> seen by 7th lord placement.> Karaka Shukra is in Marana sthana and cursed, so his luck is> gone.> The worst hit is on the karaka!. When cursed, and with neecha> Shani, the> only remedy is Kamala. He is> now preparing to do so. Till now, he has not had the long and> stable> relationship, and is still single.Thankfully> to Chandra the remedy will work wonders and oncoming Guru> dasha is to bring> marriage.> > This is such a long topic, and I belive that in near future I> can cover it> on> the blog.> Best wishes> Zoran Radosavljevic> www.siva-edu. com> jyotish blog at> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> > > [amar]> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com> [sohamsa@ .com]On Behalf Of> R.C.Srivastava> 26. rujan 2007 14:43> sohamsa@ .com> Re: remedy for MKS planets> > > Dear Zoran and friends,> I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the> thread> of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.> Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster> actually> causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events> and> creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real> impact it> has?> Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak> parijaat> independently to assess its damage and By the way,This> concept is in> real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file> of> astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have> proved?> I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it> in> terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge> This was> just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer> ever> wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.> With regards.> OM TAT SAT.> > sohamsa@ .com, "amar" <ahimsa wrote:> >> > Om Namah Shivaya,> > Dear Swati,> > You were on a good track.> > The main point is that people stress the damage to a house> where> Marana> > Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the> greatest> damage that> > is done.> > For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage> to a> marriage than> > to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often> misunderstood.> > Graha in marana stana will damage>> > 1. Bhavas ruled by it> > 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka> > 3. Bhava where it is placed> > Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3.> while> wearing a> > gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed> will> deal only> > with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining> to 1 and> 2 are> > related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.> > What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not> that> simple when> > trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana> sthana graha> is> > placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is> necessary,> or when> > such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain> will> come to> > a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the> process, such> > graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence> will> surely fail in> > such a graha,> > and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing> partially graha> > from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.> > Best wishes> > Zoran> >> > Zoran Radosavljevic> > www.siva-edu. com> > jyotish blog at> > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> >> >> > > > healing spaces [healingspac es]> > 17. rujan 2007 5:36> > ; ahimsa > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> >> >> > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah> > Dear Zoran,> >> > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt> Sanjayji> sometime back> > that i picked this thread.> > What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya> mantras and> > gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is> clearing> the bhava> > where MKS happens.> === message truncated ===____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Autos.http://autos. / new_cars. html  Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel.Building a website is a piece of cake. 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Dear Zoran,

 

Please do respond.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

--- Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote:

 

> Dear Zoran,

>

> Thanks for your inputs. I will follow your suggesion on

> Mantra.

>

> But, the following questions remain:

>

> 1. If Guru is sure to cause the effects of MKS in Meena

> Narayana

> Dasha, then why nothing bad happened during Dhanu Narayana

> dasha

> and Thula Narayana Dasha so far?

>

> 2. What is the link between vargottama Ketu and MKS Guru? How

> does this help?

>

> 3. Why there is a link between MKS Guru and abdomen? I am not

> able to reason this out.

>

> Please do elaborate.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> --- amar <ahimsa wrote:

>

> > Om Namah Shivaya,

> > Dear Krishna

> > Guru in Marana Sthana will give problems

> > 1. In children front, marraige

> > 2. Health/abdomen

> > There are two things which help out. First it is a day

> birth,

> > and second is vargottama ketu.

> > Be careful at Meena Narayan dasha which is starting at 2012.

> > The remedy is Mantra for Ganesha.

> > Best wishes

> > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > www.siva-edu.com

> > jyotish blog at

> > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

> >

> >

> > sohamsa

> > [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of

> > Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> > 27. rujan 2007 6:20

> > sohamsa

> > RE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

> >

> >

> > Dear Zoran,

> >

> > Here are my birth details:

> >

> > DOB: 7-Sep-1958

> > TOB: 6:15 am

> > POB: Bangalore

> >

> > Please let me know if there is a cancellation of MKS for

> > Jupiter. I did not see any such effects during my Jupiter

> > MD.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> >

> > --- amar <ahimsa wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Srivastava,

> > > Yes Marana sthanas always work. I would alse request a

> > list

> > > member who stated that he didnot see the effects of Guru

> > in

> > > Marana sthana to post the chart. There are MANY steps

> > > to go through when examining Marana Sthana. I have

> taught

> > the

> > > students at SIVA each step. You have to find exactly>

> > > 1. Whether there is Marana Karaka dosha or is cancelled.

> > For

> > > example If Surya is in Marana sthana and Guru is in

> > kendra, a

> > > person

> > > will RISE in life against impossible odds. See the chart

> > of

> > > Mahatma Gandhi.

> > > Similarly, there are such cancelling combinations for

> each

> > > graha. There are

> > > aslo night or day births to lessen or enhance marana

> > sthana

> > > effects, or

> > > births in days or nights horas. THere are also planets

> > which

> > > can block

> > > Marana

> > > sthana planets etc.

> > > 2. IF there is Marana sthana effect where it will hit?

> > There

> > > are different

> > > rules

> > > to find out exactly whether it will hit the bhava,

> > bhavesha or

> > > karaka.

> > > 3. If right remedy is sellected it does wonders.

> > > My Close friend has this problem. See the chart

> attached>

> > > In this chart, Sk and Budha are in Marana Sthana.

> > > I will try to give as breif analyses as I can

> > > 1. Shukra can damage 6th house placement

> > > 2. It can damage 7th house lordship

> > > 3. It can damage 7th house primary karaka.

> > > 4. It is further Cursed, Shukra Shapa.

> > > Where it will hit.

> > > 1. Chandra considerably helps to remove the dosha, and

> > Chandra

> > > is exalted in

> > > 7th house as 9th lord,

> > > so he can come out of.

> > > 7th bhava is afflicted by budha otherwise, dharma

> > > karmaadhipati Yoga with AK

> > > is there.

> > > With Shiva Mantra and Aditya mantra, he quickly remedied

> > his

> > > attitude

> > > towards women,

> > > and came out VERY quickly out of promiscuos phase, as

> well

> > as

> > > came out of

> > > professional enemity and work

> > > problems *planets in 6th house affect our work and job.

> > > 7th lord is badly placed, so he will have to make

> > decisions

> > > under terrible

> > > pressure, and the circumstances

> > > when entering a relationship are alwyas bad. He also

> likes

> > a

> > > bad character

> > > women. These is also to be

> > > seen by 7th lord placement.

> > > Karaka Shukra is in Marana sthana and cursed, so his

> luck

> > is

> > > gone.

> > > The worst hit is on the karaka!. When cursed, and with

> > neecha

> > > Shani, the

> > > only remedy is Kamala. He is

> > > now preparing to do so. Till now, he has not had the

> long

> > and

> > > stable

> > > relationship, and is still single.Thankfully

> > > to Chandra the remedy will work wonders and oncoming

> Guru

> > > dasha is to bring

> > > marriage.

> > >

> > > This is such a long topic, and I belive that in near

> > future I

> > > can cover it

> > > on

> > > the blog.

> > > Best wishes

> > > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > > www.siva-edu.com

> > > jyotish blog at

> > > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

> > >

> > >

> > > [amar]

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > sohamsa

> > > [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of

> > > R.C.Srivastava

> > > 26. rujan 2007 14:43

> > > sohamsa

> > > Re: remedy for MKS planets

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Zoran and friends,

> > > I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on

> the

> > > thread

> > > of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.

> > > Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster

> > > actually

> > > causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past

> > events

> > > and

> > > creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real

> > > impact it

> > > has?

> > > Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak

> > > parijaat

>

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Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Ajay,Younger brother, he died from a rare type of cancer that started in his knee at around 19 years.His chart:Natal Chart February 16, 1966Time: 23:55:00Time Zone: 0:00:00 (West of GMT)Place: 0 W 28' 00", 51 N 25' 00" Ashford, United KingdomRespectfully,MichalAjay Zharotia <ajayzharotiasohamsa Sent: Monday, October 1, 2007 6:43:46 PMRe: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

||Om Gurave Namah||Dear Michal, NamaskaarWas it her elder brother who died?Best RegardsJai JagannathAjay Zharotiaajayzharotia@ gmail.com On 01-Oct-07, at 4:54 AM, Michal Dziwulski wrote:Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Tijana,Birth details are 12:10pm, 28 Oct 1961, Ashford, UK.This gives Scorpio

Lagna right on the cusp of Sagitarius. The Saptamsa is not rectified, but what I can tell you is that she had twin girls first, followed by two other children to the same partner. She has 3 children to another partner. Let me know your thoughts.Respectfully,Michal----- Original Message

----tijana damjanovic <tijanadamjanovic >sohamsa Sent: Monday, October 1, 2007 8:23:20 AMRe: Re: remedy for MKS

planetsOm Gurave NamahDear Michal,Can you please provide birth data for the chart you`ve mentioned. I would like to see the saptamsa as this really sounds exceptional.Warm regards,TijanaMichal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote:Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Sarbani,Thank you for your reply. When I mentioned neechabhanga I did not explain clearly. What I was asking is if a planet is debilitated in MKS can it give good results ie. the opposite of what one would expect. Perhaps in a similar way when a planet is debilitated and retrograde we see a reversal of effects. A debilitated planet is not likely to give good results, but

then if those poor results are also dying because of MKS then perhaps that is a good thing.The chart I have in mind has Guru debilitated in third house. Her brother died very early of a terrible disease, so the house definately was badly affected. However, she has 7 beautiful children, which is exceptional. So in this case we can see the bhava was hit by why the karaka gave such good results?Respectfully,MichalSarbani Rath <sarbani@srijagannat h.org>sohamsa@ .comSunday, September 30, 2007 9:53:47 AMRE: Re: remedy for MKS planetsHare Rama Krishna,Dear Michal,If the karaka of any bhava is a nicha and in MKS, it does not bode well for that bhava. The simple thumb rules of Parasara that one is supposed to begin with in analyzing a bhava, is the bhava itself, its lord and its karaka. So there must be other factors influencing the 5th house and lord. Also, if Guru is getting niche bhanga, it must be through the conventional method via Saturn, Moon or Mars.Sarbani Michal Dziwulski [nearmichal@ ] Sunday, September 30, 2007 12:00 AMsohamsa@ .comRe: Re: remedy for MKS

planets Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Zoran,What about debilitated planets in MKS - can this be a kind of

neechabhanga? Say for Scorpio Lagna, Jupiter in the 3rd house will give good results, even for children as it is karaka and lord of the same. I have seen a couple of charts with this, but perhaps there may other factors.Respectfully,Michalamar

<ahimsa. yu>sohamsa@ .comFriday, September 28, 2007 2:15:35 PMRE: Re: remedy for MKS planetsOm Namah Shivaya,Dear KrishnaGuru in Marana Sthana will give problems1. In children front, marraige2. Health/abdomenThere are two things which help out. First it is a day birth,and second is vargottama ketu.Be careful at Meena Narayan dasha which is starting at 2012.The remedy is Mantra for Ganesha.Best wishesZoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu. comjyotish blog atwww.ahimsazr1. wordpress. comsohamsa@ .com [sohamsa]On Behalf Of Krishnamurthy Seetharama27. rujan 2007 6:20sohamsa@ .comRE: Re: remedy for MKS planetsDear Zoran,Here are my birth details:DOB: 7-Sep-1958TOB: 6:15 amPOB: BangalorePlease let me know if there is a

cancellation of MKS forJupiter. I did not see any such effects during my Jupiter MD.Regards,Krishna--- amar <ahimsa. yu> wrote:> Dear Srivastava,> Yes Marana sthanas always work. I would alse request a list> member who stated that he didnot see the effects of Guru in> Marana sthana to post the chart. There are MANY steps> to go through when examining Marana Sthana. I have taught the> students at SIVA each step. You have to find exactly>> 1. Whether there is Marana Karaka dosha or is cancelled. For> example If Surya is in Marana sthana and Guru is in kendra, a> person> will RISE in life against impossible odds. See the chart of> Mahatma Gandhi.> Similarly, there are such cancelling combinations for each> graha. There are> aslo night or day births to lessen or enhance marana sthana> effects, or> births in days or nights horas. THere are also planets which> can block> Marana> sthana planets etc.> 2. IF there is Marana sthana effect where it will hit? There> are different> rules> to find out exactly whether it will hit the bhava, bhavesha or> karaka.> 3. If right remedy is sellected it does wonders.> My Close friend has this problem. See the chart

attached>> In this chart, Sk and Budha are in Marana Sthana.> I will try to give as breif analyses as I can> 1. Shukra can damage 6th house placement> 2. It can damage 7th house lordship> 3. It can damage 7th house primary karaka.> 4. It is further Cursed, Shukra Shapa.> Where it will hit.> 1. Chandra considerably helps to remove the dosha, and Chandra> is exalted in> 7th house as 9th lord,> so he

can come out of.> 7th bhava is afflicted by budha otherwise, dharma> karmaadhipati Yoga with AK> is there.> With Shiva Mantra and Aditya mantra, he quickly remedied his> attitude> towards women,> and came out VERY quickly out of promiscuos phase, as well as> came out of> professional enemity and work> problems *planets in 6th house affect our work and job.> 7th lord is badly placed, so he will

have to make decisions> under terrible> pressure, and the circumstances> when entering a relationship are alwyas bad. He also likes a> bad character> women. These is also to be> seen by 7th lord placement.> Karaka Shukra is in Marana sthana and cursed, so his luck is> gone.> The worst hit is on the karaka!. When cursed, and with neecha> Shani, the> only remedy is Kamala. He is> now preparing to do so. Till now, he has not had the long and> stable> relationship, and is still single.Thankfully> to Chandra the remedy will work wonders and oncoming Guru> dasha is to bring> marriage.> > This is such a long topic, and I belive that in near future I> can cover it> on> the blog.> Best wishes> Zoran Radosavljevic> www.siva-edu. com> jyotish blog at> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> > > [amar]> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com> [sohamsa@ .com]On Behalf Of> R.C.Srivastava> 26. rujan 2007 14:43> sohamsa@ .com> Re: remedy for MKS planets> > > Dear Zoran and friends,> I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the> thread> of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.> Somtimes a thought occurs to

me, how much This Monster> actually> causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events> and> creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real> impact it> has?> Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak> parijaat> independently to assess its damage and By the way,This> concept is in> real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file> of> astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have> proved?> I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it> in> terms

of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge> This was> just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer> ever> wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.> With regards.> OM TAT SAT.> > sohamsa@ .com, "amar" <ahimsa wrote:> >> > Om Namah Shivaya,> > Dear Swati,> > You were on a good track.> > The main point is that people stress the damage to a house> where> Marana> > Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the> greatest> damage that> > is done.> > For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage> to a> marriage than> > to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often> misunderstood.> > Graha in marana stana will damage>> > 1. Bhavas ruled by it> > 2. Bhavas for

which Graha is karaka> > 3. Bhava where it is placed> > Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3.> while> wearing a> > gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed> will> deal only> > with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining> to 1 and> 2 are> > related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.> > What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not> that> simple when> > trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana> sthana graha> is> > placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is> necessary,> or when> > such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain> will> come to> > a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the> process, such> > graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence> will> surely fail in> > such a graha,> > and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing> partially graha> > from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.> > Best wishes> > Zoran> >> > Zoran Radosavljevic> > www.siva-edu. com> > jyotish blog at> > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> >> >> > > > healing spaces [healingspac es]> > 17. rujan 2007 5:36> > ; ahimsa > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> >> >> > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah> > Dear Zoran,> >> > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt> Sanjayji> sometime back> > that i picked this thread.> > What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya> mantras and> > gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is> clearing> the

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Dear Zoran ji Pranams It has been fascinating to read the postings on MKS planets. Here is the chart of a relative whose MKS Sun has caused terrible tragedy with respect to father of the native and to 4 siblings. Could you suggest a remedy since 3 more siblings are alive but are leading a very painful life. The DOB of the native is September 12. 1955 7.12 am, bangalore. With Regards Avinashamar <ahimsa wrote: Om Namah Shivaya, I would agree with Sarbani. Please check Neecha bhanga Yogas. If planets giving neecha bhanga Yoga are in fire/water signs in Navamsa, a birth of many children is promised.What you suggest sounds strange. It can only apply to Shani and Mangal whose position in Rashi chart in Marana sthana will give during their dasas Raja Yogas, provided they are not in exalted navamsas. Guru in debilitation for Scorpio Lagna can give many children provided that Shukra is placed in 3rd or 9h house or Mars is placed in 3rd, 5th,6th, 8th,9th, 11 or 12th houses. Best wishes Zoran Zoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu.comjyotish blog atwww.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com -----Original

Message-----sohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski30. rujan 2007 19:58sohamsa Subject: Re: Re: remedy for MKS planets Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Sarbani,Thank you for your reply. When I mentioned neechabhanga I did not explain clearly. What I was asking is if a planet is debilitated in MKS can it give good results ie. the opposite of what one would expect. Perhaps in a similar way when a planet is debilitated and retrograde we see a reversal of effects. A debilitated planet is not likely to give good results, but then if those poor results are also dying because of MKS then perhaps that is a

good thing.The chart I have in mind has Guru debilitated in third house. Her brother died very early of a terrible disease, so the house definately was badly affected. However, she has 7 beautiful children, which is exceptional. So in this case we can see the bhava was hit by why the karaka gave such good results?Respectfully,Michal Sarbani Rath <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org>sohamsa Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 9:53:47 AMRE: Re: remedy for MKS planets Hare Rama Krishna, Dear Michal, If the karaka of any bhava is a nicha and in MKS, it does not bode well for that bhava. The simple thumb rules of Parasara that one is supposed to begin with in analyzing a bhava, is the bhava itself, its lord and its karaka. So there must be other factors influencing the 5th house and lord. Also, if Guru is getting niche bhanga, it must be through the conventional method via Saturn, Moon or Mars. Sarbani Michal Dziwulski [nearmichal@ ] Sunday, September 30, 2007 12:00 AMsohamsa@ .comRe: Re: remedy for MKS

planets Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Zoran,What about debilitated planets in MKS - can this be a kind of neechabhanga? Say for Scorpio Lagna, Jupiter in the 3rd house will give good results, even for children as it is karaka and lord of the same. I have seen a couple of charts with this, but perhaps there may other factors.Respectfully,Michal amar <ahimsa. yu>sohamsa@ .comFriday, September 28, 2007 2:15:35 PMRE: Re: remedy for MKS planets Om Namah

Shivaya, Dear Krishna Guru in Marana Sthana will give problems 1. In children front, marraige 2. Health/abdomen There are two things which help out. First it is a day birth, and second is vargottama ketu. Be careful at Meena Narayan dasha which is starting at 2012. The remedy is Mantra for Ganesha. Best wishes Zoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu. comjyotish blog atwww.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa]On Behalf Of Krishnamurthy Seetharama27. rujan 2007 6:20sohamsa@ .comRE: Re: remedy for MKS planets Dear Zoran,Here are my birth details:DOB: 7-Sep-1958TOB: 6:15 amPOB: BangalorePlease let me know if there is a cancellation of MKS forJupiter. I did not see any such effects during my Jupiter

MD.Regards,Krishna--- amar <ahimsa. yu> wrote:> Dear Srivastava,> Yes Marana sthanas always work. I would alse request a list> member who stated that he didnot see the effects of Guru in> Marana sthana to post the chart. There are MANY steps> to go through when examining Marana Sthana. I have taught the> students at SIVA each step. You have to find exactly>> 1. Whether there is Marana Karaka dosha or is cancelled. For> example If Surya is in Marana sthana and Guru is in kendra, a> person> will RISE in life against impossible odds. See the chart of> Mahatma Gandhi.> Similarly, there are such cancelling combinations for each> graha. There are> aslo night or day births to lessen or enhance marana sthana> effects, or> births in days or nights horas. THere are

also planets which> can block> Marana> sthana planets etc.> 2. IF there is Marana sthana effect where it will hit? There> are different> rules> to find out exactly whether it will hit the bhava, bhavesha or> karaka.> 3. If right remedy is sellected it does wonders.> My Close friend has this problem. See the chart attached>> In this chart, Sk and Budha are in Marana Sthana.> I will try to give as breif analyses as I can> 1. Shukra can damage 6th house placement> 2. It can damage 7th house lordship> 3. It can damage 7th house primary karaka.> 4. It is further Cursed, Shukra Shapa.> Where it will hit.> 1. Chandra considerably helps to remove the dosha, and Chandra> is exalted in> 7th house as 9th lord,> so he can come out of.> 7th bhava is afflicted by budha otherwise, dharma> karmaadhipati Yoga with AK> is

there.> With Shiva Mantra and Aditya mantra, he quickly remedied his> attitude> towards women,> and came out VERY quickly out of promiscuos phase, as well as> came out of> professional enemity and work> problems *planets in 6th house affect our work and job.> 7th lord is badly placed, so he will have to make decisions> under terrible> pressure, and the circumstances> when entering a relationship are alwyas bad. He also likes a> bad character> women. These is also to be> seen by 7th lord placement.> Karaka Shukra is in Marana sthana and cursed, so his luck is> gone.> The worst hit is on the karaka!. When cursed, and with neecha> Shani, the> only remedy is Kamala. He is> now preparing to do so. Till now, he has not had the long and> stable> relationship, and is still single.Thankfully> to Chandra the remedy will work

wonders and oncoming Guru> dasha is to bring> marriage.> > This is such a long topic, and I belive that in near future I> can cover it> on> the blog.> Best wishes> Zoran Radosavljevic> www.siva-edu. com> jyotish blog at> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> > > [amar]> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com> [sohamsa@ .com]On Behalf Of> R.C.Srivastava> 26. rujan 2007 14:43> sohamsa@ .com> Re: remedy for MKS planets> > > Dear Zoran and friends,> I am always spell bound by

knowledgeable discussion on the> thread> of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.> Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster> actually> causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events> and> creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real> impact it> has?> Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak> parijaat> independently to assess its damage and By the way,This> concept is in> real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file> of> astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have> proved?> I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it> in> terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge> This was> just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer> ever> wrote anything about it in pre 1998

ERA.> With regards.> OM TAT SAT.> > sohamsa@ .com, "amar" <ahimsa wrote:> >> > Om Namah Shivaya,> > Dear Swati,> > You were on a good track.> > The main point is that people stress the damage to a house> where> Marana> > Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the> greatest> damage that> > is done.> > For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage> to a> marriage than> > to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often> misunderstood.> > Graha in marana stana will damage>> > 1. Bhavas ruled by it> > 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka> > 3. Bhava where it is placed> > Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3.>

while> wearing a> > gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed> will> deal only> > with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining> to 1 and> 2 are> > related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.> > What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not> that> simple when> > trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana> sthana graha> is> > placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is> necessary,> or when> > such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain> will> come to> > a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the> process, such> > graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence> will> surely fail in> > such a graha,> > and a person will not perform remedial

measure. So, seing> partially graha> > from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.> > Best wishes> > Zoran> >> > Zoran Radosavljevic> > www.siva-edu. com> > jyotish blog at> > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> >> >> > > > healing spaces [healingspac es]> > 17. rujan 2007 5:36> > ; ahimsa > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> >> >> > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah> > Dear Zoran,> >> > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt> Sanjayji> sometime back> > that i picked this thread.> > What u seem to be mentioning is

that by the ghrini Aditya> mantras and> > gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is> clearing> the bhava> > where MKS happens.> === message truncated ===____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Autos.http://autos. / new_cars. html Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places

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Om Namah Shivaya,

Dear Michal,

Is the time zone 1? I am getting Scorpio Lagna

Kumbha Navamsa

 

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sohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski1. listopad 2007 1:25sohamsa Subject: Re: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

 

 

Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Tijana,Birth details are 12:10pm, 28 Oct 1961, Ashford, UK.This gives Scorpio Lagna right on the cusp of Sagitarius. The Saptamsa is not rectified, but what I can tell you is that she had twin girls first, followed by two other children to the same partner. She has 3 children to another partner. Let me know your thoughts.Respectfully,Michal

tijana damjanovic <tijanadamjanovic >sohamsa Sent: Monday, October 1, 2007 8:23:20 AMRe: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

 

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Michal,

Can you please provide birth data for the chart you`ve mentioned. I would like to see the saptamsa as this really sounds exceptional.

Warm regards,

TijanaMichal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote:

 

 

 

 

Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Sarbani,Thank you for your reply. When I mentioned neechabhanga I did not explain clearly. What I was asking is if a planet is debilitated in MKS can it give good results ie. the opposite of what one would expect. Perhaps in a similar way when a planet is debilitated and retrograde we see a reversal of effects. A debilitated planet is not likely to give good results, but then if those poor results are also dying because of MKS then perhaps that is a good thing.The chart I have in mind has Guru debilitated in third house. Her brother died very early of a terrible disease, so the house definately was badly affected. However, she has 7 beautiful children, which is exceptional. So in this case we can see the bhava was hit by why the karaka gave such good results?Respectfully,Michal

Sarbani Rath <sarbani@srijagannat h.org>sohamsa@ .comSunday, September 30, 2007 9:53:47 AMRE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

 

 

Hare Rama Krishna,

Dear Michal,

If the karaka of any bhava is a nicha and in MKS, it does not bode well for that bhava. The simple thumb rules of Parasara that one is supposed to begin with in analyzing a bhava, is the bhava itself, its lord and its karaka. So there must be other factors influencing the 5th house and lord. Also, if Guru is getting niche bhanga, it must be through the conventional method via Saturn, Moon or Mars.

Sarbani

 

 

 

Michal Dziwulski [nearmichal@ ] Sunday, September 30, 2007 12:00 AMsohamsa@ .comRe: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Zoran,What about debilitated planets in MKS - can this be a kind of neechabhanga? Say for Scorpio Lagna, Jupiter in the 3rd house will give good results, even for children as it is karaka and lord of the same. I have seen a couple of charts with this, but perhaps there may other factors.Respectfully,Michal

 

amar <ahimsa. yu>sohamsa@ .comFriday, September 28, 2007 2:15:35 PMRE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

 

Om Namah Shivaya,

 

Dear Krishna

 

Guru in Marana Sthana will give problems

 

1. In children front, marraige

 

2. Health/abdomen

 

There are two things which help out. First it is a day birth,

 

and second is vargottama ketu.

 

Be careful at Meena Narayan dasha which is starting at 2012.

 

The remedy is Mantra for Ganesha.

 

Best wishes

 

Zoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu. comjyotish blog atwww.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com

 

sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa]On Behalf Of Krishnamurthy Seetharama27. rujan 2007 6:20sohamsa@ .comRE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

Dear Zoran,Here are my birth details:DOB: 7-Sep-1958TOB: 6:15 amPOB: BangalorePlease let me know if there is a cancellation of MKS forJupiter. I did not see any such effects during my Jupiter MD.Regards,Krishna--- amar <ahimsa. yu> wrote:> Dear Srivastava,> Yes Marana sthanas always work. I would alse request a list> member who stated that he didnot see the effects of Guru in> Marana sthana to post the chart. There are MANY steps> to go through when examining Marana Sthana. I have taught the> students at SIVA each step. You have to find exactly>> 1. Whether there is Marana Karaka dosha or is cancelled. For> example If Surya is in Marana sthana and Guru is in kendra, a> person> will RISE in life against impossible odds. See the chart of> Mahatma Gandhi.> Similarly, there are such cancelling combinations for each> graha. There are> aslo night or day births to lessen or enhance marana sthana> effects, or> births in days or nights horas. THere are also planets which> can block> Marana> sthana planets etc.> 2. IF there is Marana sthana effect where it will hit? There> are different> rules> to find out exactly whether it will hit the bhava, bhavesha or> karaka.> 3. If right remedy is sellected it does wonders.> My Close friend has this problem. See the chart attached>> In this chart, Sk and Budha are in Marana Sthana.> I will try to give as breif analyses as I can> 1. Shukra can damage 6th house placement> 2. It can damage 7th house lordship> 3. It can damage 7th house primary karaka.> 4. It is further Cursed, Shukra Shapa.> Where it will hit.> 1. Chandra considerably helps to remove the dosha, and Chandra> is exalted in> 7th house as 9th lord,> so he can come out of.> 7th bhava is afflicted by budha otherwise, dharma> karmaadhipati Yoga with AK> is there.> With Shiva Mantra and Aditya mantra, he quickly remedied his> attitude> towards women,> and came out VERY quickly out of promiscuos phase, as well as> came out of> professional enemity and work> problems *planets in 6th house affect our work and job.> 7th lord is badly placed, so he will have to make decisions> under terrible> pressure, and the circumstances> when entering a relationship are alwyas bad. He also likes a> bad character> women. These is also to be> seen by 7th lord placement.> Karaka Shukra is in Marana sthana and cursed, so his luck is> gone.> The worst hit is on the karaka!. When cursed, and with neecha> Shani, the> only remedy is Kamala. He is> now preparing to do so. Till now, he has not had the long and> stable> relationship, and is still single.Thankfully> to Chandra the remedy will work wonders and oncoming Guru> dasha is to bring> marriage.> > This is such a long topic, and I belive that in near future I> can cover it> on> the blog.> Best wishes> Zoran Radosavljevic> www.siva-edu. com> jyotish blog at> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> > > [amar]> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com> [sohamsa@ .com]On Behalf Of> R.C.Srivastava> 26. rujan 2007 14:43> sohamsa@ .com> Re: remedy for MKS planets> > > Dear Zoran and friends,> I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the> thread> of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.> Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster> actually> causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events> and> creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real> impact it> has?> Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak> parijaat> independently to assess its damage and By the way,This> concept is in> real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file> of> astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have> proved?> I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it> in> terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge> This was> just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer> ever> wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.> With regards.> OM TAT SAT.> > sohamsa@ .com, "amar" <ahimsa wrote:> >> > Om Namah Shivaya,> > Dear Swati,> > You were on a good track.> > The main point is that people stress the damage to a house> where> Marana> > Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the> greatest> damage that> > is done.> > For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage> to a> marriage than> > to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often> misunderstood.> > Graha in marana stana will damage>> > 1. Bhavas ruled by it> > 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka> > 3. Bhava where it is placed> > Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3.> while> wearing a> > gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed> will> deal only> > with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining> to 1 and> 2 are> > related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.> > What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not> that> simple when> > trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana> sthana graha> is> > placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is> necessary,> or when> > such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain> will> come to> > a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the> process, such> > graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence> will> surely fail in> > such a graha,> > and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing> partially graha> > from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.> > Best wishes> > Zoran> >> > Zoran Radosavljevic> > www.siva-edu. com> > jyotish blog at> > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> >> >> > > > healing spaces [healingspac es]> > 17. rujan 2007 5:36> > s! rijagannath; ahimsa > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> >> >> > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah> > Dear Zoran,> >> > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt> Sanjayji> sometime back> > that i picked this thread.> > What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya> mantras and> > gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is> clearing> the bhava> > where MKS happens.> === message truncated ===____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Autos.http://autos. / new_cars. html

 

 

 

 

 

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In Dhanu Naryayan dasha, planetary placements are

good from dasha rashi. Thula dasha you are still

running, and the greatest problem lies in Rudra Yoga

placement in the 8th from it. So health problems and

other bad things will be also felt in this dasha.Planets in

the sign will be felt in the last third part of the dasha which

coincide with vrishaba antardasha etc. Thus be careful overthere.

abdomen problems do arise from effects given in the standard

texts. See Sanjay's books where he gives effects of planets

in MKS. (narayana dasha etc). He quotes from the standard

texts that Guru gives abdominal problems.

Best wishes

Zoran

Zoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu.comjyotish blog atwww.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of Krishnamurthy Seetharama1. listopad 2007 8:10sohamsa Subject: RE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

Dear Zoran,Please do respond.Regards,Krishna--- Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 > wrote:> Dear Zoran,> > Thanks for your inputs. I will follow your suggesion on> Mantra.> > But, the following questions remain:> > 1. If Guru is sure to cause the effects of MKS in Meena> Narayana> Dasha, then why nothing bad happened during Dhanu Narayana> dasha> and Thula Narayana Dasha so far?> > 2. What is the link between vargottama Ketu and MKS Guru? How> does this help?> > 3. Why there is a link between MKS Guru and abdomen? I am not> able to reason this out.> > Please do elaborate.> > Regards,> Krishna> > --- amar <ahimsa.yu> wrote:> > > Om Namah Shivaya,> > Dear Krishna> > Guru in Marana Sthana will give problems> > 1. In children front, marraige> > 2. Health/abdomen> > There are two things which help out. First it is a day> birth,> > and second is vargottama ketu.> > Be careful at Meena Narayan dasha which is starting at 2012.> > The remedy is Mantra for Ganesha.> > Best wishes> > Zoran Radosavljevic> > www.siva-edu.com> > jyotish blog at> > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com> > > > > > sohamsa > > [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of> > Krishnamurthy Seetharama> > 27. rujan 2007 6:20> > sohamsa > > RE: Re: remedy for MKS planets> > > > > > Dear Zoran,> > > > Here are my birth details:> > > > DOB: 7-Sep-1958> > TOB: 6:15 am> > POB: Bangalore> > > > Please let me know if there is a cancellation of MKS for> > Jupiter. I did not see any such effects during my Jupiter> > MD.> > > > Regards,> > Krishna> > > > --- amar <ahimsa.yu> wrote:> > > > > Dear Srivastava,> > > Yes Marana sthanas always work. I would alse request a> > list> > > member who stated that he didnot see the effects of Guru> > in> > > Marana sthana to post the chart. There are MANY steps> > > to go through when examining Marana Sthana. I have> taught> > the> > > students at SIVA each step. You have to find exactly>> > > 1. Whether there is Marana Karaka dosha or is cancelled.> > For> > > example If Surya is in Marana sthana and Guru is in> > kendra, a> > > person> > > will RISE in life against impossible odds. See the chart> > of> > > Mahatma Gandhi.> > > Similarly, there are such cancelling combinations for> each> > > graha. There are> > > aslo night or day births to lessen or enhance marana> > sthana> > > effects, or> > > births in days or nights horas. THere are also planets> > which> > > can block> > > Marana> > > sthana planets etc.> > > 2. IF there is Marana sthana effect where it will hit?> > There> > > are different> > > rules> > > to find out exactly whether it will hit the bhava,> > bhavesha or> > > karaka.> > > 3. If right remedy is sellected it does wonders.> > > My Close friend has this problem. See the chart> attached>> > > In this chart, Sk and Budha are in Marana Sthana.> > > I will try to give as breif analyses as I can> > > 1. Shukra can damage 6th house placement> > > 2. It can damage 7th house lordship> > > 3. It can damage 7th house primary karaka.> > > 4. It is further Cursed, Shukra Shapa.> > > Where it will hit.> > > 1. Chandra considerably helps to remove the dosha, and> > Chandra> > > is exalted in> > > 7th house as 9th lord,> > > so he can come out of.> > > 7th bhava is afflicted by budha otherwise, dharma> > > karmaadhipati Yoga with AK> > > is there.> > > With Shiva Mantra and Aditya mantra, he quickly remedied> > his> > > attitude> > > towards women,> > > and came out VERY quickly out of promiscuos phase, as> well> > as> > > came out of> > > professional enemity and work> > > problems *planets in 6th house affect our work and job.> > > 7th lord is badly placed, so he will have to make> > decisions> > > under terrible> > > pressure, and the circumstances> > > when entering a relationship are alwyas bad. He also> likes> > a> > > bad character> > > women. These is also to be> > > seen by 7th lord placement.> > > Karaka Shukra is in Marana sthana and cursed, so his> luck> > is> > > gone.> > > The worst hit is on the karaka!. When cursed, and with> > neecha> > > Shani, the> > > only remedy is Kamala. He is> > > now preparing to do so. Till now, he has not had the> long> > and> > > stable> > > relationship, and is still single.Thankfully> > > to Chandra the remedy will work wonders and oncoming> Guru> > > dasha is to bring> > > marriage.> > >> > > This is such a long topic, and I belive that in near> > future I> > > can cover it> > > on> > > the blog.> > > Best wishes> > > Zoran Radosavljevic> > > www.siva-edu.com> > > jyotish blog at> > > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com> > >> > >> > > [amar]> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > sohamsa > > > [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of> > > R.C.Srivastava> > > 26. rujan 2007 14:43> > > sohamsa > > > Re: remedy for MKS planets> > >> > >> > > Dear Zoran and friends,> > > I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on> the> > > thread> > > of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.> > > Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster> > > actually> > > causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past> > events> > > and> > > creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real> > > impact it> > > has?> > > Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak> > > parijaat> === message truncated ===________Catch up on fall's hot new shows on TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more!http://tv./collections/3658

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Dear Zoran,

 

Thanks for your clarifications. I appreciate your inputs.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

--- amar <ahimsa wrote:

 

> Om Namah Shivaya,

> Dear Krishna,

> In Dhanu Naryayan dasha, planetary placements are

> good from dasha rashi. Thula dasha you are still

> running, and the greatest problem lies in Rudra Yoga

> placement in the 8th from it. So health problems and

> other bad things will be also felt in this dasha.Planets in

> the sign will be felt in the last third part of the dasha

> which

> coincide with vrishaba antardasha etc. Thus be careful

> overthere.

> abdomen problems do arise from effects given in the standard

> texts. See Sanjay's books where he gives effects of planets

> in MKS. (narayana dasha etc). He quotes from the standard

> texts that Guru gives abdominal problems.

> Best wishes

> Zoran

> Zoran Radosavljevic

> www.siva-edu.com

> jyotish blog at

> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

>

>

>

>

>

> sohamsa

> [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of

> Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> 1. listopad 2007 8:10

> sohamsa

> RE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

>

>

> Dear Zoran,

>

> Please do respond.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> --- Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> > Dear Zoran,

> >

> > Thanks for your inputs. I will follow your suggesion on

> > Mantra.

> >

> > But, the following questions remain:

> >

> > 1. If Guru is sure to cause the effects of MKS in Meena

> > Narayana

> > Dasha, then why nothing bad happened during Dhanu Narayana

> > dasha

> > and Thula Narayana Dasha so far?

> >

> > 2. What is the link between vargottama Ketu and MKS Guru?

> How

> > does this help?

> >

> > 3. Why there is a link between MKS Guru and abdomen? I am

> not

> > able to reason this out.

> >

> > Please do elaborate.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> >

> > --- amar <ahimsa wrote:

> >

> > > Om Namah Shivaya,

> > > Dear Krishna

> > > Guru in Marana Sthana will give problems

> > > 1. In children front, marraige

> > > 2. Health/abdomen

> > > There are two things which help out. First it is a day

> > birth,

> > > and second is vargottama ketu.

> > > Be careful at Meena Narayan dasha which is starting at

> 2012.

> > > The remedy is Mantra for Ganesha.

> > > Best wishes

> > > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > > www.siva-edu.com

> > > jyotish blog at

> > > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

> > >

> > >

> > > sohamsa

> > > [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of

> > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> > > 27. rujan 2007 6:20

> > > sohamsa

> > > RE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Zoran,

> > >

> > > Here are my birth details:

> > >

> > > DOB: 7-Sep-1958

> > > TOB: 6:15 am

> > > POB: Bangalore

> > >

> > > Please let me know if there is a cancellation of MKS for

> > > Jupiter. I did not see any such effects during my

> Jupiter

> > > MD.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Krishna

> > >

> > > --- amar <ahimsa wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Srivastava,

> > > > Yes Marana sthanas always work. I would alse request a

> > > list

> > > > member who stated that he didnot see the effects of

> Guru

> > > in

> > > > Marana sthana to post the chart. There are MANY steps

> > > > to go through when examining Marana Sthana. I have

> > taught

> > > the

> > > > students at SIVA each step. You have to find exactly>

> > > > 1. Whether there is Marana Karaka dosha or is

> cancelled.

> > > For

> > > > example If Surya is in Marana sthana and Guru is in

> > > kendra, a

> > > > person

> > > > will RISE in life against impossible odds. See the

> chart

> > > of

> > > > Mahatma Gandhi.

> > > > Similarly, there are such cancelling combinations for

> > each

> > > > graha. There are

> > > > aslo night or day births to lessen or enhance marana

> > > sthana

> > > > effects, or

> > > > births in days or nights horas. THere are also planets

> > > which

> > > > can block

> > > > Marana

> > > > sthana planets etc.

> > > > 2. IF there is Marana sthana effect where it will hit?

> > > There

> > > > are different

> > > > rules

> > > > to find out exactly whether it will hit the bhava,

> > > bhavesha or

> > > > karaka.

> > > > 3. If right remedy is sellected it does wonders.

> > > > My Close friend has this problem. See the chart

> > attached>

> > > > In this chart, Sk and Budha are in Marana Sthana.

> > > > I will try to give as breif analyses as I can

> > > > 1. Shukra can damage 6th house placement

> > > > 2. It can damage 7th house lordship

> > > > 3. It can damage 7th house primary karaka.

> > > > 4. It is further Cursed, Shukra Shapa.

> > > > Where it will hit.

> > > > 1. Chandra considerably helps to remove the dosha, and

> > > Chandra

> > > > is exalted in

> > > > 7th house as 9th lord,

> > > > so he can come out of.

> > > > 7th bhava is afflicted by budha otherwise, dharma

> > > > karmaadhipati Yoga with AK

> > > > is there.

> > > > With Shiva Mantra and Aditya mantra, he quickly

> remedied

> > > his

> > > > attitude

> > > > towards women,

> > > > and came out VERY quickly out of promiscuos phase, as

> > well

> > > as

> > > > came out of

> > > > professional enemity and work

> > > > problems *planets in 6th house affect our work and

> job.

> > > > 7th lord is badly placed, so he will have to make

> > > decisions

> > > > under terrible

> > > > pressure, and the circumstances

> > > > when entering a relationship are alwyas bad. He also

> > likes

> > > a

> > > > bad character

> > > > women. These is also to be

> > > > seen by 7th lord placement.

> > > > Karaka Shukra is in Marana sthana and cursed, so his

> > luck

> > > is

> > > > gone.

> > > > The worst hit is on the karaka!. When cursed, and with

> > > neecha

> > > > Shani, the

>

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Om Namah Shivaya,

Dear Avinash,

There is a curse of Guru, ekadashi dosha etc.

Surya is also bhatrikaraka and in MKS. Surya is

also Ishta Devata. The following remedial measures are advised>

1. Fasting on Krishna chaturdashi each month/Krishna Chaturdashi Vrata with

12 malas of Hare Rama Krishna. Anger coming on the native will go away

2. Mrityunjaya Japa, followed by worship of Shri Ram. A good mantra would

be: Om Namo Bhagavate RamaChandraya.

After some time the curse of Guru should be removed by fasting on mondays

and worship of Shiva.

 

 

Zoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu.comjyotish blog atwww.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of avinash nandan1. listopad 2007 9:16sohamsa Subject: RE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

 

Dear Zoran ji

Pranams

It has been fascinating to read the postings on MKS planets. Here is the chart of a relative whose MKS Sun has caused terrible tragedy with respect to father of the native and to 4 siblings. Could you suggest a remedy since 3 more siblings are alive but are leading a very painful life. The DOB of the native is September 12. 1955 7.12 am, bangalore.

With Regards

Avinashamar <ahimsa.yu> wrote:

 

 

 

Om Namah Shivaya,

I would agree with Sarbani. Please check Neecha bhanga Yogas.

If planets giving neecha bhanga Yoga are in fire/water signs in

Navamsa, a birth of many children is promised.What you suggest

sounds strange. It can only apply to Shani and Mangal whose position

in Rashi chart in Marana sthana will give during their dasas Raja Yogas,

provided they are not in exalted navamsas.

Guru in debilitation for Scorpio Lagna can give many children provided

that Shukra is p laced in 3rd or 9h house or Mars is placed in 3rd, 5th,6th,

8th,9th, 11 or 12th houses.

Best wishes

Zoran

Zoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu.comjyotish blog atwww.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski30. rujan 2007 19:58sohamsa Subject: Re: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

 

 

Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Sarbani,Thank you for your reply. When I mentioned neechabhanga I did not explain clearly. What I was asking is if a planet is debilitated in MKS can it give good results ie. the opposite of what one would expect. Perhaps in a similar way when a planet is debilitated and retrograde we see a reversal of effects. A debilitated planet is not likely to give good results, but then if those poor results are also dying because of MKS then perhaps that is a good thing.The chart I have in mind has Guru debilitated in third house. Her brother died very early of a terrible disease, so the house definately was badly affected. However, she has 7 beautiful children, which is exceptional. So in this case we can see the bhava was hit by why the karaka gave such good results?Respectfully,Michal

Sarbani Rath <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org>sohamsa Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 9:53:47 AMRE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

 

 

Hare Rama Krishna,

Dear Michal,

If the karaka of any bhava is a nicha and in MKS, it does not bode well for that bhava. The simple thumb rules of Parasara that one is supposed to begin with in analyzing a bhava, is the bhava itself, its lord and its karaka. So there must be other factors influencing the 5th house and lord. Also, if Guru is getting niche bhanga, it must be through the conventional method via Saturn, Moon or Mars.

Sarbani

 

 

 

Michal Dziwulski [nearmichal@ ] Sunday, September 30, 2007 12:00 AMsohamsa@ .comRe: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Zoran,What about debilitated planets in MKS - can this be a kind of neechabhanga? Say for Scorpio Lagna, Jupiter in the 3rd house will give good results, even for children as it is karaka and lord of the same. I have seen a couple of charts with this, but perhaps there may other factors.Respectfully,Michal

 

amar <ahimsa. yu>sohamsa@ .comFriday, September 28, 2007 2:15:35 PMRE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

 

Om Namah Shivaya,

 

Dear Krishna

 

Guru in Marana Sthana will give problems

 

1. In children front, marraige

 

2. Health/abdomen

 

There are two things which help out. First it is a day birth,

 

and second is vargottama ketu.

 

Be careful at Meena Narayan dasha which is starting at 2012.

 

The remedy is Mantra for Ganesha.

 

Best wishes

 

Zoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu. comjyotish blog atwww.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com

 

sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa]On Behalf Of Krishnamurthy Seetharama27. rujan 2007 6:20sohamsa@ .comRE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

Dear Zoran,Here are my birth details:DOB: 7-Sep-1958TOB: 6:15 amPOB: BangalorePlease let me know if there is a cancellation of MKS forJupiter. I did not see any such effects during my Jupiter MD.Regards,Krishna--- amar <ahimsa. yu> wrote:> Dear Srivastava,> Yes Marana sthanas always work. I would alse request a list> member who stated that he didnot see the effects of Guru in> Marana sthana to post the chart. There are MANY steps> to go through when examining Marana Sthana. I have taught the> students at SIVA each step. You have to find exactly>> 1. Whether there is Marana Karaka dosha or is cancelled. For> example If Surya is in Marana sthana and Guru is in kendra, a> person> will RISE in life against impossible odds. See the chart of> Mahatma Gandhi.> Similarly, there are such cancelling combinations for each> graha. There are> aslo night or day births to lessen or enhance marana sthana> effects, or> births in days or nights horas. THere are also planets which> can block> Marana> sthana planets etc.> 2. IF there is Marana sthana effect where it will hit? There> are different> rules> to find out exactly whether it will hit the bhava, bhavesha or> karaka.> 3. If right remedy is sellected it does wonders.> My Close friend has this problem. See the chart attached>> In this chart, Sk and Budha are in Marana Sthana.> I will try to give as breif analyses as I can> 1. Shukra can damage 6th house placement> 2. It can damage 7th house lordship> 3. It can damage 7th house primary karaka.> 4. It is further Cursed, Shukra Shapa.> Where it will hit.> 1. Chandra considerably helps to remove the dosha, and Chandra> is exalted in> 7th house as 9th lord,> so he can come out of.> 7th bhava is afflicted by budha otherwise, dharma> karmaadhipati Yoga with AK> is there.> With Shiva Mantra and Aditya mantra, he quickly remedied his> attitude> towards women,> and came out VERY quickly out of promiscuos phase, as well as> came out of> professional enemity and work> problems *planets in 6th house affect our work and job.> 7th lord is badly placed, so he will have to make decisions> under terrible> pressure, and the circumstances> when entering a relationship are alwyas bad. He also likes a> bad character> women. These is also to be> seen by 7th lord placement.> Karaka Shukra is in Marana sthana and cursed, so his luck is> gone.> The worst hit is on the karaka!. When cursed, and with neecha> Shani, the> only remedy is Kamala. He is> now preparing to do so. Till now, he has not had the long and> stable> relationship, and is still single.Thankfully> to Chandra the remedy will work wonders and oncoming Guru> dasha is to bring> marriage.> > This is such a long topic, and I belive that in near future I> can cover it> on> the blog.> Best wishes> Zoran Radosavljevic> www.siva-edu. com> jyotish blog at> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> > > [amar]> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com> [sohamsa@ .com]On Behalf Of> R.C.Srivastava> 26. rujan 2007 14:43> sohamsa@ .com> Re: remedy for MKS planets> > > Dear Zoran and friends,> I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the> thread> of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.> Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster> actually> causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events> and> creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real> impact it> has?> Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak> parijaat> independently to assess its damage and By the way,This> concept is in> real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file> of> astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have> proved?> I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it> in> terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge> This was> just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer> ever> wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.> With regards.> OM TAT SAT.> > sohamsa@ .com, "amar" <ahimsa wrote:> >> > Om Namah Shivaya,> > Dear Swati,> > You were on a good track.> > The main point is that people stress the damage to a house> where> Marana> > Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the> greatest> damage that> > is done.> > For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage> to a> marriage than> > to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often> misunderstood.> > Graha in marana stana will damage>> > 1. Bhavas ruled by it> > 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka> > 3. Bhava where it is placed> > Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3.> while> wearing a> > gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed> will> deal only> > with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining> to 1 and> 2 are> > related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.> > What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not> that> simple when> > trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana> sthana graha> is> > placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is> necessary,> or when> > such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain> will> come to> > a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the> process, such> > graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence> will> surely fail in> > such a graha,> > and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing> partially graha> > from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.> > Best wishes> > Zoran> >> > Zoran Radosavljevic> > www.siva-edu. com> > jyotish blog at> > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> >> >> > > > healing spaces [healingspac es]> > 17. rujan 2007 5:36> > ; ahimsa > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> >> >> > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah> > Dear Zoran,> >> > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt> Sanjayji> sometime back> > that i picked this thread.> > What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya> mantras and> > gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is> clearing> the bhava> > where MKS happens.> === message truncated ===____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Autos.http://autos. / new_cars. html

 

 

 

 

 

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Hare

Rama Krishna,

Dear

Michal,

I

know what you were trying to say. J

I was trying to say that it sounds a bit stretched. So, look elsewhere.

Sarbani

 

 

 

Michal Dziwulski

[nearmichal]

Sunday, September 30, 2007 11:28 PM

sohamsa

Re: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hare Rama Krsna ||

 

Dear Sarbani,

 

Thank you for your reply. When I mentioned neechabhanga I did not explain

clearly. What I was asking is if a planet is debilitated in MKS can it

give good results ie. the opposite of what one would expect. Perhaps in a

similar way when a planet is debilitated and retrograde we see a reversal of

effects. A debilitated planet is not likely to give good results, but

then if those poor results are also dying because of MKS then perhaps that is a

good thing.

The chart I have in mind has Guru debilitated in third house. Her brother

died very early of a terrible disease, so the house definately was badly

affected. However, she has 7 beautiful children, which is

exceptional. So in this case we can see the bhava was hit by why the

karaka gave such good results?

 

Respectfully,

Michal

 

 

Sarbani Rath <sarbani

sohamsa

Sunday, September 30, 2007 9:53:47 AM

RE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

 

Hare Rama Krishna,

Dear Michal,

If the karaka of any bhava is a nicha and in MKS, it does

not bode well for that bhava. The simple thumb rules of Parasara that one is

supposed to begin with in analyzing a bhava, is the bhava itself, its lord and

its karaka. So there must be other factors influencing the 5th house

and lord. Also, if Guru is getting niche bhanga, it must be through the

conventional method via Saturn, Moon or Mars.

Sarbani

 

 

 

Michal

Dziwulski [nearmichal@ ]

Sunday, September 30, 2007 12:00 AM

sohamsa@ .com

Re: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hare Rama Krsna ||

 

Dear Zoran,

 

What about debilitated planets in MKS - can this be a kind of

neechabhanga? Say for Scorpio Lagna, Jupiter in the 3rd house will give

good results, even for children as it is karaka and lord of the same. I

have seen a couple of charts with this, but perhaps there may other factors.

 

Respectfully,

Michal

 

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amar <ahimsa. yu>

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Friday, September 28, 2007 2:15:35 PM

RE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

 

Om Namah Shivaya,

 

 

Dear Krishna

 

 

Guru in Marana Sthana will give problems

 

 

1. In children front, marraige

 

 

2. Health/abdomen

 

 

There are two things which help out. First

it is a day birth,

 

 

and second is vargottama ketu.

 

 

Be careful at Meena Narayan dasha which is

starting at 2012.

 

 

The remedy is Mantra for Ganesha.

 

 

Best wishes

 

 

Zoran Radosavljevic

www.siva-edu. com

jyotish blog at

www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com

 

 

 

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Behalf Of Krishnamurthy Seetharama

27. rujan 2007 6:20

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RE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

Dear Zoran,

 

Here are my birth details:

 

DOB: 7-Sep-1958

TOB: 6:15 am

POB: Bangalore

 

Please let me know if there is a cancellation of MKS for

Jupiter. I did not see any such effects during my Jupiter MD.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

--- amar <ahimsa.

yu> wrote:

 

> Dear Srivastava,

> Yes Marana sthanas always work. I would alse request a list

> member who stated that he didnot see the effects of Guru in

> Marana sthana to post the chart. There are MANY steps

> to go through when examining Marana Sthana. I have taught the

> students at SIVA each step. You have to find exactly>

> 1. Whether there is Marana Karaka dosha or is cancelled. For

> example If Surya is in Marana sthana and Guru is in kendra, a

> person

> will RISE in life against impossible odds. See the chart of

> Mahatma Gandhi.

> Similarly, there are such cancelling combinations for each

> graha. There are

> aslo night or day births to lessen or enhance marana sthana

> effects, or

> births in days or nights horas. THere are also planets which

> can block

> Marana

> sthana planets etc.

> 2. IF there is Marana sthana effect where it will hit? There

> are different

> rules

> to find out exactly whether it will hit the bhava, bhavesha or

> karaka.

> 3. If right remedy is sellected it does wonders.

> My Close friend has this problem. See the chart attached>

> In this chart, Sk and Budha are in Marana Sthana.

> I will try to give as breif analyses as I can

> 1. Shukra can damage 6th house placement

> 2. It can damage 7th house lordship

> 3. It can damage 7th house primary karaka.

> 4. It is further Cursed, Shukra Shapa.

> Where it will hit.

> 1. Chandra considerably helps to remove the dosha, and Chandra

> is exalted in

> 7th house as 9th lord,

> so he can come out of.

> 7th bhava is afflicted by budha otherwise, dharma

> karmaadhipati Yoga with AK

> is there.

> With Shiva Mantra and Aditya mantra, he quickly remedied his

> attitude

> towards women,

> and came out VERY quickly out of promiscuos phase, as well as

> came out of

> professional enemity and work

> problems *planets in 6th house affect our work and job.

> 7th lord is badly placed, so he will have to make decisions

> under terrible

> pressure, and the circumstances

> when entering a relationship are alwyas bad. He also likes a

> bad character

> women. These is also to be

> seen by 7th lord placement.

> Karaka Shukra is in Marana sthana and cursed, so his luck is

> gone.

> The worst hit is on the karaka!. When cursed, and with neecha

> Shani, the

> only remedy is Kamala. He is

> now preparing to do so. Till now, he has not had the long and

> stable

> relationship, and is still single.Thankfully

> to Chandra the remedy will work wonders and oncoming Guru

> dasha is to bring

> marriage.

>

> This is such a long topic, and I belive that in near future I

> can cover it

> on

> the blog.

> Best wishes

> Zoran Radosavljevic

> www.siva-edu. com

> jyotish blog at

> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com

>

>

> [amar]

>

>

>

>

>

> sohamsa@

..com

> [sohamsa@

..com]On Behalf Of

> R.C.Srivastava

> 26. rujan 2007 14:43

> sohamsa@

..com

> Re: remedy for MKS planets

>

>

> Dear Zoran and friends,

> I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the

> thread

> of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.

> Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster

> actually

> causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events

> and

> creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real

> impact it

> has?

> Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak

> parijaat

> independently to assess its damage and By the way,This

> concept is in

> real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file

> of

> astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have

> proved?

> I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it

> in

> terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge

> This was

> just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer

> ever

> wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.

> With regards.

> OM TAT SAT.

>

> sohamsa@

..com, " amar " <ahimsa wrote:

> >

> > Om Namah Shivaya,

> > Dear Swati,

> > You were on a good track.

> > The main point is that people stress the damage to a house

> where

> Marana

> > Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the

> greatest

> damage that

> > is done.

> > For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage

> to a

> marriage than

> > to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often

> misunderstood.

> > Graha in marana stana will damage>

> > 1. Bhavas ruled by it

> > 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka

> > 3. Bhava where it is placed

> > Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3.

> while

> wearing a

> > gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed

> will

> deal only

> > with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining

> to 1 and

> 2 are

> > related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.

> > What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not

> that

> simple when

> > trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana

> sthana graha

> is

> > placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is

> necessary,

> or when

> > such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain

> will

> come to

> > a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the

> process, such

> > graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence

> will

> surely fail in

> > such a graha,

> > and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing

> partially graha

> > from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.

> > Best wishes

> > Zoran

> >

> > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > www.siva-edu. com

> > jyotish blog at

> > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com

> >

> >

> >

> > healing spaces [healingspac es]

> > 17. rujan 2007 5:36

> > @

. com; ahimsa

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets

> >

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah

> > Dear Zoran,

> >

> > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt

> Sanjayji

> sometime back

> > that i picked this thread.

> > What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya

> mantras and

> > gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is

> clearing

> the bhava

> > where MKS happens.

>

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Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Zoran,Yes time zone is 1.Respectfully,Michalamar <ahimsasohamsa Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2007 2:03:45 AMRE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

 

Om Namah Shivaya,

Dear Michal,

Is the time zone 1? I am getting Scorpio Lagna

Kumbha Navamsa

 

Zoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu. comjyotish blog atwww.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com

 

 

sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa]On Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski1. listopad 2007 1:25sohamsa@ .comRe: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

 

 

Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Tijana,Birth details are 12:10pm, 28 Oct 1961, Ashford, UK.This gives Scorpio Lagna right on the cusp of Sagitarius. The Saptamsa is not rectified, but what I can tell you is that she had twin girls first, followed by two other children to the same partner. She has 3 children to another partner. Let me know your thoughts.Respectfully,Michal

tijana damjanovic <tijanadamjanovic@ >sohamsa@ .comMonday, October 1, 2007 8:23:20 AMRe: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

 

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Michal,

Can you please provide birth data for the chart you`ve mentioned. I would like to see the saptamsa as this really sounds exceptional.

Warm regards,

TijanaMichal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote:

 

 

 

 

Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Sarbani,Thank you for your reply. When I mentioned neechabhanga I did not explain clearly. What I was asking is if a planet is debilitated in MKS can it give good results ie. the opposite of what one would expect. Perhaps in a similar way when a planet is debilitated and retrograde we see a reversal of effects. A debilitated planet is not likely to give good results, but then if those poor results are also dying because of MKS then perhaps that is a good thing.The chart I have in mind has Guru debilitated in third house. Her brother died very early of a terrible disease, so the house definately was badly affected. However, she has 7 beautiful children, which is exceptional. So in this case we can see the bhava was hit by why the karaka gave such good results?Respectfully,Michal

Sarbani Rath <sarbani@srijagannat h.org>sohamsa@ .comSunday, September 30, 2007 9:53:47 AMRE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

 

 

Hare Rama Krishna,

Dear Michal,

If the karaka of any bhava is a nicha and in MKS, it does not bode well for that bhava. The simple thumb rules of Parasara that one is supposed to begin with in analyzing a bhava, is the bhava itself, its lord and its karaka. So there must be other factors influencing the 5th house and lord. Also, if Guru is getting niche bhanga, it must be through the conventional method via Saturn, Moon or Mars.

Sarbani

 

 

 

Michal Dziwulski [nearmichal@ ] Sunday, September 30, 2007 12:00 AMsohamsa@ .comRe: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Zoran,What about debilitated planets in MKS - can this be a kind of neechabhanga? Say for Scorpio Lagna, Jupiter in the 3rd house will give good results, even for children as it is karaka and lord of the same. I have seen a couple of charts with this, but perhaps there may other factors.Respectfully,Michal

 

amar <ahimsa. yu>sohamsa@ .comFriday, September 28, 2007 2:15:35 PMRE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

 

Om Namah Shivaya,

 

Dear Krishna

 

Guru in Marana Sthana will give problems

 

1. In children front, marraige

 

2. Health/abdomen

 

There are two things which help out. First it is a day birth,

 

and second is vargottama ketu.

 

Be careful at Meena Narayan dasha which is starting at 2012.

 

The remedy is Mantra for Ganesha.

 

Best wishes

 

Zoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu. comjyotish blog atwww.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com

 

sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa]On Behalf Of Krishnamurthy Seetharama27. rujan 2007 6:20sohamsa@ .comRE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

Dear Zoran,Here are my birth details:DOB: 7-Sep-1958TOB: 6:15 amPOB: BangalorePlease let me know if there is a cancellation of MKS forJupiter. I did not see any such effects during my Jupiter MD.Regards,Krishna--- amar <ahimsa. yu> wrote:> Dear Srivastava,> Yes Marana sthanas always work. I would alse request a list> member who stated that he didnot see the effects of Guru in> Marana sthana to post the chart. There are MANY steps> to go through when examining Marana Sthana. I have taught the> students at SIVA each step. You have to find exactly>> 1. Whether there is Marana Karaka dosha or is cancelled. For> example If Surya is in Marana sthana and Guru is in kendra, a> person> will RISE in life against impossible odds. See the chart of> Mahatma Gandhi.> Similarly, there are such cancelling combinations for each> graha. There are> aslo night or day births to lessen or enhance marana sthana> effects, or> births in days or nights horas. THere are also planets which> can block> Marana> sthana planets etc.> 2. IF there is Marana sthana effect where it will hit? There> are different> rules> to find out exactly whether it will hit the bhava, bhavesha or> karaka.> 3. If right remedy is sellected it does wonders.> My Close friend has this problem. See the chart attached>> In this chart, Sk and Budha are in Marana Sthana.> I will try to give as breif analyses as I can> 1. Shukra can damage 6th house placement> 2. It can damage 7th house lordship> 3. It can damage 7th house primary karaka.> 4. It is further Cursed, Shukra Shapa.> Where it will hit.> 1. Chandra considerably helps to remove the dosha, and Chandra> is exalted in> 7th house as 9th lord,> so he can come out of.> 7th bhava is afflicted by budha otherwise, dharma> karmaadhipati Yoga with AK> is there.> With Shiva Mantra and Aditya mantra, he quickly remedied his> attitude> towards women,> and came out VERY quickly out of promiscuos phase, as well as> came out of> professional enemity and work> problems *planets in 6th house affect our work and job.> 7th lord is badly placed, so he will have to make decisions> under terrible> pressure, and the circumstances> when entering a relationship are alwyas bad. He also likes a> bad character> women. These is also to be> seen by 7th lord placement.> Karaka Shukra is in Marana sthana and cursed, so his luck is> gone.> The worst hit is on the karaka!. When cursed, and with neecha> Shani, the> only remedy is Kamala. He is> now preparing to do so. Till now, he has not had the long and> stable> relationship, and is still single.Thankfully> to Chandra the remedy will work wonders and oncoming Guru> dasha is to bring> marriage.> > This is such a long topic, and I belive that in near future I> can cover it> on> the blog.> Best wishes> Zoran Radosavljevic> www.siva-edu. com> jyotish blog at> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> > > [amar]> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com> [sohamsa@ .com]On Behalf Of> R.C.Srivastava> 26. rujan 2007 14:43> sohamsa@ .com> Re: remedy for MKS planets> > > Dear Zoran and friends,> I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the> thread> of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.> Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster> actually> causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events> and> creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real> impact it> has?> Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak> parijaat> independently to assess its damage and By the way,This> concept is in> real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file> of> astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have> proved?> I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it> in> terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge> This was> just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer> ever> wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.> With regards.> OM TAT SAT.> > sohamsa@ .com, "amar" <ahimsa wrote:> >> > Om Namah Shivaya,> > Dear Swati,> > You were on a good track.> > The main point is that people stress the damage to a house> where> Marana> > Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the> greatest> damage that> > is done.> > For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage> to a> marriage than> > to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often> misunderstood.> > Graha in marana stana will damage>> > 1. Bhavas ruled by it> > 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka> > 3. Bhava where it is placed> > Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3.> while> wearing a> > gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed> will> deal only> > with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining> to 1 and> 2 are> > related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.> > What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not> that> simple when> > trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana> sthana graha> is> > placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is> necessary,> or when> > such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain> will> come to> > a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the> process, such> > graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence> will> surely fail in> > such a graha,> > and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing> partially graha> > from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.> > Best wishes> > Zoran> >> > Zoran Radosavljevic> > www.siva-edu. com> > jyotish blog at> > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> >> >> > > > healing spaces [healingspac es]> > 17. rujan 2007 5:36> > s! rijagannath; ahimsa > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> >> >> > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah> > Dear Zoran,> >> > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt> Sanjayji> sometime back> > that i picked this thread.> > What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya> mantras and> > gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is> clearing> the bhava> > where MKS happens.> === message truncated ===____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Autos.http://autos. / new_cars. html

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Zoran Ji Pranams Thank you very much for giving the remedial measures.Can you kindly explain why you chose Krishna chaturdashi for fasting which happens to be Kalatra tithi. With Regards Avinash amar <ahimsa wrote: Om Namah Shivaya, Dear Avinash, There is a curse of Guru, ekadashi dosha etc. Surya is also bhatrikaraka and in MKS. Surya is also Ishta Devata. The following remedial measures are advised> 1. Fasting on Krishna chaturdashi each month/Krishna Chaturdashi Vrata with 12 malas of Hare Rama Krishna. Anger coming on the native will go away 2. Mrityunjaya Japa, followed by worship of Shri Ram. A good mantra would be: Om Namo Bhagavate RamaChandraya. After some time the curse of Guru should be removed by fasting on mondays and worship of Shiva. Zoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu.comjyotish blog atwww.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com sohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of avinash nandan1. listopad 2007 9:16sohamsa Subject: RE: Re: remedy for MKS planets Dear Zoran ji Pranams It has been fascinating to read the postings on MKS planets. Here is the chart of a relative whose MKS Sun has caused terrible tragedy with respect to father of the native and to 4 siblings. Could you suggest a remedy since 3 more siblings are alive but are leading a very painful life. The DOB of the

native is September 12. 1955 7.12 am, bangalore. With Regards Avinashamar <ahimsa.yu> wrote: Om Namah Shivaya, I would agree with Sarbani. Please check Neecha bhanga Yogas. If planets giving neecha bhanga Yoga are in fire/water signs in Navamsa, a birth of many children is promised.What you suggest sounds strange. It can only apply to Shani and Mangal whose

position in Rashi chart in Marana sthana will give during their dasas Raja Yogas, provided they are not in exalted navamsas. Guru in debilitation for Scorpio Lagna can give many children provided that Shukra is p laced in 3rd or 9h house or Mars is placed in 3rd, 5th,6th, 8th,9th, 11 or 12th houses. Best wishes Zoran Zoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu.comjyotish blog atwww.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com sohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski30. rujan 2007 19:58sohamsa Subject: Re: Re: remedy for MKS planets Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Sarbani,Thank you for your reply. When I mentioned neechabhanga I did not explain clearly. What I was asking is if a planet is debilitated in MKS can it give good results ie. the opposite

of what one would expect. Perhaps in a similar way when a planet is debilitated and retrograde we see a reversal of effects. A debilitated planet is not likely to give good results, but then if those poor results are also dying because of MKS then perhaps that is a good thing.The chart I have in mind has Guru debilitated in third house. Her brother died very early of a terrible disease, so the house definately was badly affected. However, she has 7 beautiful children, which is exceptional. So in this case we can see the bhava was hit by why the karaka gave such good results?Respectfully,Michal Sarbani Rath <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org>sohamsa Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 9:53:47 AMRE: Re: remedy for

MKS planets Hare Rama Krishna, Dear Michal, If the karaka of any bhava is a nicha and in MKS, it does not bode well for that bhava. The simple thumb rules of Parasara that one is supposed to begin with in analyzing a bhava, is the bhava itself, its lord and its karaka. So there must be other factors influencing the 5th house and lord. Also, if Guru is getting niche bhanga, it must be through the conventional method via Saturn, Moon or Mars. Sarbani Michal Dziwulski [nearmichal@ ] Sunday, September 30, 2007 12:00 AMsohamsa@ .comRe: Re: remedy for MKS planets Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Zoran,What about debilitated planets in MKS - can this be a kind of neechabhanga? Say for Scorpio Lagna, Jupiter in the 3rd house will give good results, even for children as it is karaka and lord of the same. I have seen a couple of charts with this, but perhaps there may other factors.Respectfully,Michal amar <ahimsa.

yu>sohamsa@ .comFriday, September 28, 2007 2:15:35 PMRE: Re: remedy for MKS planets Om Namah Shivaya, Dear Krishna Guru in Marana Sthana will give problems 1. In children front, marraige 2. Health/abdomen There are two things which help out. First it is a day birth, and second is

vargottama ketu. Be careful at Meena Narayan dasha which is starting at 2012. The remedy is Mantra for Ganesha. Best wishes Zoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu. comjyotish blog atwww.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa]On Behalf Of Krishnamurthy Seetharama27. rujan 2007 6:20sohamsa@ .comRE: Re: remedy for MKS planets Dear

Zoran,Here are my birth details:DOB: 7-Sep-1958TOB: 6:15 amPOB: BangalorePlease let me know if there is a cancellation of MKS forJupiter. I did not see any such effects during my Jupiter MD.Regards,Krishna--- amar <ahimsa. yu> wrote:> Dear Srivastava,> Yes Marana sthanas always work. I would alse request a list> member who stated that he didnot see the effects of Guru in> Marana sthana to post the chart. There are MANY steps> to go through when examining Marana Sthana. I have taught the> students at SIVA each step. You have to find exactly>> 1. Whether there is Marana Karaka dosha or is cancelled. For> example If Surya is in Marana sthana and Guru is in kendra, a> person> will RISE in life against impossible odds. See the chart of> Mahatma Gandhi.>

Similarly, there are such cancelling combinations for each> graha. There are> aslo night or day births to lessen or enhance marana sthana> effects, or> births in days or nights horas. THere are also planets which> can block> Marana> sthana planets etc.> 2. IF there is Marana sthana effect where it will hit? There> are different> rules> to find out exactly whether it will hit the bhava, bhavesha or> karaka.> 3. If right remedy is sellected it does wonders.> My Close friend has this problem. See the chart attached>> In this chart, Sk and Budha are in Marana Sthana.> I will try to give as breif analyses as I can> 1. Shukra can damage 6th house placement> 2. It can damage 7th house lordship> 3. It can damage 7th house primary karaka.> 4. It is further Cursed, Shukra Shapa.> Where it will hit.> 1. Chandra considerably helps

to remove the dosha, and Chandra> is exalted in> 7th house as 9th lord,> so he can come out of.> 7th bhava is afflicted by budha otherwise, dharma> karmaadhipati Yoga with AK> is there.> With Shiva Mantra and Aditya mantra, he quickly remedied his> attitude> towards women,> and came out VERY quickly out of promiscuos phase, as well as> came out of> professional enemity and work> problems *planets in 6th house affect our work and job.> 7th lord is badly placed, so he will have to make decisions> under terrible> pressure, and the circumstances> when entering a relationship are alwyas bad. He also likes a> bad character> women. These is also to be> seen by 7th lord placement.> Karaka Shukra is in Marana sthana and cursed, so his luck is> gone.> The worst hit is on the karaka!. When cursed, and with neecha>

Shani, the> only remedy is Kamala. He is> now preparing to do so. Till now, he has not had the long and> stable> relationship, and is still single.Thankfully> to Chandra the remedy will work wonders and oncoming Guru> dasha is to bring> marriage.> > This is such a long topic, and I belive that in near future I> can cover it> on> the blog.> Best wishes> Zoran Radosavljevic> www.siva-edu. com> jyotish blog at> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> > > [amar]> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com> [sohamsa@ .com]On Behalf Of> R.C.Srivastava> 26. rujan 2007 14:43> sohamsa@ .com> Re: remedy for MKS planets> > > Dear Zoran and friends,> I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the> thread> of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.> Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster> actually> causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events> and> creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real> impact it> has?> Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak> parijaat> independently to assess its damage and By the way,This> concept is in> real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file> of> astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have> proved?> I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can

teach about it> in> terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge> This was> just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer> ever> wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.> With regards.> OM TAT SAT.> > sohamsa@ .com, "amar" <ahimsa wrote:> >> > Om Namah Shivaya,> > Dear Swati,> > You were on a good track.> > The main point is that people stress the damage to a house> where> Marana> > Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the> greatest> damage that> > is done.> > For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage> to a> marriage than> > to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often> misunderstood.> > Graha

in marana stana will damage>> > 1. Bhavas ruled by it> > 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka> > 3. Bhava where it is placed> > Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3.> while> wearing a> > gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed> will> deal only> > with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining> to 1 and> 2 are> > related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.> > What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not> that> simple when> > trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana> sthana graha> is> > placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is> necessary,> or when> > such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain> will> come to> > a person, and there is a little a

person can do. If in the> process, such> > graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence> will> surely fail in> > such a graha,> > and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing> partially graha> > from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.> > Best wishes> > Zoran> >> > Zoran Radosavljevic> > www.siva-edu. com> > jyotish blog at> > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> >> >> > > > healing spaces [healingspac es]> > 17. rujan 2007 5:36> > ; ahimsa > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> >> >> > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye

Namah> > Dear Zoran,> >> > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt> Sanjayji> sometime back> > that i picked this thread.> > What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya> mantras and> > gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is> clearing> the bhava> > where MKS happens.> === message truncated ===____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Autos.http://autos. / new_cars. html Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel. Building a website is a piece of cake. Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out.

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Zoran ji,

I am very grateful to you for the wonderful analysis and remedies on

MKS. Pray the inner light to kindly UNLOCK the following

horoscope with the appropriate remedies.

 

Venus in MKS & retrograde. Rahu in MKS in Own house. Jupiter in MKS

from Moon.Curse on 5th and 1st and 10th and 10th in Papakartari.

4 planets in MKS from AL in Dasamsa. Mars in 4th doing Neechbhanga

for Sun/Saturn but also Kuja Dosha.

 

Native infected with Inferiority Complex, Lack of Initiative. Lack

of creativity. Impatience. Limping progress in Career. Dried up

complexion,emancipated look. Still Single. No luck in love /

romance. Averse to marriage & women. Unable to enjoy the luxuries he

has accumulated. Constant issues with vehicles. Unable to

make/maintain relationships. Unale to live Elecronics/latest gadgets

inspite of his affordability. Irregularity / Unavailability of good

food inspite of affordability and if available unable to eat due to

stress of some or other kind. Though with Guru (leaving parents)

from Ketu in Rahu MD, unable to surrender completely to him.

Competing and fighting with Guru.

 

Additionally not very keen to pray to Durga ( Ishtadevata ) instead

likes and also been initiated into Rama mantra.

 

Very averse to eating curd since childhood, but now happily takes it

from 35th year ( Is it the effect of Venus in progression turning

direct )

 

Details: 26.10.1970 10:15 PM Hyderabad,India.

 

Kindly help a soul out of its bondage.....

 

Many thanks and regards

Ravi.

 

 

sohamsa , avinash nandan <avina121 wrote:

>

> Dear Zoran Ji

> Pranams

> Thank you very much for giving the remedial measures.Can you

kindly explain why you chose Krishna chaturdashi for fasting which

happens to be Kalatra tithi.

>

> With Regards

> Avinash

>

>

> amar <ahimsa wrote:

> Om Namah Shivaya,

> Dear Avinash,

> There is a curse of Guru, ekadashi dosha etc.

> Surya is also bhatrikaraka and in MKS. Surya is

> also Ishta Devata. The following remedial measures are advised>

> 1. Fasting on Krishna chaturdashi each month/Krishna Chaturdashi

Vrata with

> 12 malas of Hare Rama Krishna. Anger coming on the native will

go away

> 2. Mrityunjaya Japa, followed by worship of Shri Ram. A good

mantra would

> be: Om Namo Bhagavate RamaChandraya.

> After some time the curse of Guru should be removed by fasting

on mondays

> and worship of Shiva.

>

>

> Zoran Radosavljevic

> www.siva-edu.com

> jyotish blog at

> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

>

>

>

> sohamsa [sohamsa ]On

Behalf Of avinash nandan

> 1. listopad 2007 9:16

> sohamsa

> RE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

>

>

> Dear Zoran ji

> Pranams

> It has been fascinating to read the postings on MKS planets.

Here is the chart of a relative whose MKS Sun has caused terrible

tragedy with respect to father of the native and to 4 siblings.

Could you suggest a remedy since 3 more siblings are alive but are

leading a very painful life. The DOB of the native is September 12.

1955 7.12 am, bangalore.

> With Regards

> Avinash

>

> amar <ahimsa wrote:

> Om Namah Shivaya,

> I would agree with Sarbani. Please check Neecha bhanga Yogas.

> If planets giving neecha bhanga Yoga are in fire/water signs in

> Navamsa, a birth of many children is promised.What you suggest

> sounds strange. It can only apply to Shani and Mangal whose

position

> in Rashi chart in Marana sthana will give during their dasas

Raja Yogas,

> provided they are not in exalted navamsas.

> Guru in debilitation for Scorpio Lagna can give many children

provided

> that Shukra is p laced in 3rd or 9h house or Mars is placed in

3rd, 5th,6th,

> 8th,9th, 11 or 12th houses.

> Best wishes

> Zoran

> Zoran Radosavljevic

> www.siva-edu.com

> jyotish blog at

> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

>

>

> sohamsa [sohamsa ]On

Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski

> 30. rujan 2007 19:58

> sohamsa

> Re: Re: remedy for MKS planets

>

>

> Hare Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Sarbani,

>

> Thank you for your reply. When I mentioned neechabhanga I did not

explain clearly. What I was asking is if a planet is debilitated in

MKS can it give good results ie. the opposite of what one would

expect. Perhaps in a similar way when a planet is debilitated and

retrograde we see a reversal of effects. A debilitated planet is

not likely to give good results, but then if those poor results are

also dying because of MKS then perhaps that is a good thing.

> The chart I have in mind has Guru debilitated in third house. Her

brother died very early of a terrible disease, so the house

definately was badly affected. However, she has 7 beautiful

children, which is exceptional. So in this case we can see the

bhava was hit by why the karaka gave such good results?

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal

>

>

> Sarbani Rath <sarbani

> sohamsa

> Sunday, September 30, 2007 9:53:47 AM

> RE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

>

>

> Hare Rama Krishna,

> Dear Michal,

> If the karaka of any bhava is a nicha and in MKS, it does not

bode well for that bhava. The simple thumb rules of Parasara that

one is supposed to begin with in analyzing a bhava, is the bhava

itself, its lord and its karaka. So there must be other factors

influencing the 5th house and lord. Also, if Guru is getting niche

bhanga, it must be through the conventional method via Saturn, Moon

or Mars.

> Sarbani

>

> Michal Dziwulski [nearmichal@ ]

> Sunday, September 30, 2007 12:00 AM

> sohamsa@ .com

> Re: Re: remedy for MKS planets

>

>

>

> Hare Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Zoran,

>

> What about debilitated planets in MKS - can this be a kind of

neechabhanga? Say for Scorpio Lagna, Jupiter in the 3rd house will

give good results, even for children as it is karaka and lord of the

same. I have seen a couple of charts with this, but perhaps there

may other factors.

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal

>

> amar <ahimsa yu>

> sohamsa@ .com

> Friday, September 28, 2007 2:15:35 PM

> RE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

> Om Namah Shivaya,

>

> Dear Krishna

>

> Guru in Marana Sthana will give problems

>

> 1. In children front, marraige

>

> 2. Health/abdomen

>

> There are two things which help out. First it is a day birth,

>

> and second is vargottama ketu.

>

> Be careful at Meena Narayan dasha which is starting at 2012.

>

> The remedy is Mantra for Ganesha.

>

> Best wishes

>

> Zoran Radosavljevic

> www.siva-edu. com

> jyotish blog at

> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com

>

>

> sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa]

On Behalf Of Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> 27. rujan 2007 6:20

> sohamsa@ .com

> RE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

> Dear Zoran,

>

> Here are my birth details:

>

> DOB: 7-Sep-1958

> TOB: 6:15 am

> POB: Bangalore

>

> Please let me know if there is a cancellation of MKS for

> Jupiter. I did not see any such effects during my Jupiter MD.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> --- amar <ahimsa yu> wrote:

>

> > Dear Srivastava,

> > Yes Marana sthanas always work. I would alse request a list

> > member who stated that he didnot see the effects of Guru in

> > Marana sthana to post the chart. There are MANY steps

> > to go through when examining Marana Sthana. I have taught the

> > students at SIVA each step. You have to find exactly>

> > 1. Whether there is Marana Karaka dosha or is cancelled. For

> > example If Surya is in Marana sthana and Guru is in kendra, a

> > person

> > will RISE in life against impossible odds. See the chart of

> > Mahatma Gandhi.

> > Similarly, there are such cancelling combinations for each

> > graha. There are

> > aslo night or day births to lessen or enhance marana sthana

> > effects, or

> > births in days or nights horas. THere are also planets which

> > can block

> > Marana

> > sthana planets etc.

> > 2. IF there is Marana sthana effect where it will hit? There

> > are different

> > rules

> > to find out exactly whether it will hit the bhava, bhavesha or

> > karaka.

> > 3. If right remedy is sellected it does wonders.

> > My Close friend has this problem. See the chart attached>

> > In this chart, Sk and Budha are in Marana Sthana.

> > I will try to give as breif analyses as I can

> > 1. Shukra can damage 6th house placement

> > 2. It can damage 7th house lordship

> > 3. It can damage 7th house primary karaka.

> > 4. It is further Cursed, Shukra Shapa.

> > Where it will hit.

> > 1. Chandra considerably helps to remove the dosha, and Chandra

> > is exalted in

> > 7th house as 9th lord,

> > so he can come out of.

> > 7th bhava is afflicted by budha otherwise, dharma

> > karmaadhipati Yoga with AK

> > is there.

> > With Shiva Mantra and Aditya mantra, he quickly remedied his

> > attitude

> > towards women,

> > and came out VERY quickly out of promiscuos phase, as well as

> > came out of

> > professional enemity and work

> > problems *planets in 6th house affect our work and job.

> > 7th lord is badly placed, so he will have to make decisions

> > under terrible

> > pressure, and the circumstances

> > when entering a relationship are alwyas bad. He also likes a

> > bad character

> > women. These is also to be

> > seen by 7th lord placement.

> > Karaka Shukra is in Marana sthana and cursed, so his luck is

> > gone.

> > The worst hit is on the karaka!. When cursed, and with neecha

> > Shani, the

> > only remedy is Kamala. He is

> > now preparing to do so. Till now, he has not had the long and

> > stable

> > relationship, and is still single.Thankfully

> > to Chandra the remedy will work wonders and oncoming Guru

> > dasha is to bring

> > marriage.

> >

> > This is such a long topic, and I belive that in near future I

> > can cover it

> > on

> > the blog.

> > Best wishes

> > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > www.siva-edu. com

> > jyotish blog at

> > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com

> >

> >

> > [amar]

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > sohamsa@ .com

> > [sohamsa@ .com]On Behalf Of

> > R.C.Srivastava

> > 26. rujan 2007 14:43

> > sohamsa@ .com

> > Re: remedy for MKS planets

> >

> >

> > Dear Zoran and friends,

> > I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the

> > thread

> > of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.

> > Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster

> > actually

> > causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events

> > and

> > creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real

> > impact it

> > has?

> > Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak

> > parijaat

> > independently to assess its damage and By the way,This

> > concept is in

> > real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file

> > of

> > astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have

> > proved?

> > I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it

> > in

> > terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge

> > This was

> > just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer

> > ever

> > wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.

> > With regards.

> > OM TAT SAT.

> >

> > sohamsa@ .com, " amar " <ahimsa@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Om Namah Shivaya,

> > > Dear Swati,

> > > You were on a good track.

> > > The main point is that people stress the damage to a house

> > where

> > Marana

> > > Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the

> > greatest

> > damage that

> > > is done.

> > > For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage

> > to a

> > marriage than

> > > to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often

> > misunderstood.

> > > Graha in marana stana will damage>

> > > 1. Bhavas ruled by it

> > > 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka

> > > 3. Bhava where it is placed

> > > Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3.

> > while

> > wearing a

> > > gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed

> > will

> > deal only

> > > with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining

> > to 1 and

> > 2 are

> > > related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.

> > > What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not

> > that

> > simple when

> > > trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana

> > sthana graha

> > is

> > > placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is

> > necessary,

> > or when

> > > such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain

> > will

> > come to

> > > a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the

> > process, such

> > > graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence

> > will

> > surely fail in

> > > such a graha,

> > > and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing

> > partially graha

> > > from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.

> > > Best wishes

> > > Zoran

> > >

> > > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > > www.siva-edu. com

> > > jyotish blog at

> > > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > healing spaces [healingspac es@]

> > > 17. rujan 2007 5:36

> > > ; ahimsa@

> > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets

> > >

> > >

> > > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah

> > > Dear Zoran,

> > >

> > > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt

> > Sanjayji

> > sometime back

> > > that i picked this thread.

> > > What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya

> > mantras and

> > > gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is

> > clearing

> > the bhava

> > > where MKS happens.

> >

> === message truncated ===

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Om Namah Shivaya,

Dear Ravi,

Shukra in vrischika Rashi is terribly placed in 2nd house from

Lagnesh and Surya.The native will feel that whatever he does

as far as his emotions are concerned is being taken away from

him. So, rare opportuniteis for fulfilled love and marriage. Being in Marana

sthana he feels like dying when life punishes him in his emotional

life.Two houses are terribly affected by Marana Sthana. One is

7th house-worst affected, and then 5th house 2/3rd affliction, slightly

less affacted.

Thus, his choices are wrong, he falls in love with a wrong people,

and falling love with those who are friends which is wrong and unfullifelled.

To top it, there is no luck in there. As far as the children are concerned

chart should be checked(time to see Navamsa and Saptamsa may change)

and my feeling is that it may go slightly back.

What you stated about his character is clearly seen in Chandra Ak in 3rd house

as well as Mangal in 4th bhava. SHani in 11th as vakri will smash his hopes

and aspiration, while Chandra in 3rd will show extreme worries and punishment

Due to Shukra in Marana Shtana, he will not like to do sadhana, yet RAMA

Mantra is very good for world view and satya in his life(direction). However,

the real remedy should be done in two ways.

1. SHiva mantra to remove the curse and help Shukra out of 6th house. Shiva Somanath mantra

is brilliant for health and will help in relationships. This is one option.

2. Kamala Sadhana to remedy such a bad shukra.

Best wishes

Zoran Radosavljevicwww.siva-edu.comjyotish blog atwww.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

Zoran ji,I am very grateful to you for the wonderful analysis and remedies on MKS. Pray the inner light to kindly UNLOCK the following horoscope with the appropriate remedies.Venus in MKS & retrograde. Rahu in MKS in Own house. Jupiter in MKS from Moon.Curse on 5th and 1st and 10th and 10th in Papakartari.4 planets in MKS from AL in Dasamsa. Mars in 4th doing Neechbhanga for Sun/Saturn but also Kuja Dosha.Native infected with Inferiority Complex, Lack of Initiative. Lack of creativity. Impatience. Limping progress in Career. Dried up complexion,emancipated look. Still Single. No luck in love / romance. Averse to marriage & women. Unable to enjoy the luxuries he has accumulated. Constant issues with vehicles. Unable to make/maintain relationships. Unale to live Elecronics/latest gadgets inspite of his affordability. Irregularity / Unavailability of good food inspite of affordability and if available unable to eat due to stress of some or other kind. Though with Guru (leaving parents) from Ketu in Rahu MD, unable to surrender completely to him. Competing and fighting with Guru.Additionally not very keen to pray to Durga ( Ishtadevata ) instead likes and also been initiated into Rama mantra.Very averse to eating curd since childhood, but now happily takes it from 35th year ( Is it the effect of Venus in progression turning direct )Details: 26.10.1970 10:15 PM Hyderabad,India.Kindly help a soul out of its bondage.....Many thanks and regardsRavi.sohamsa , avinash nandan <avina121 wrote:>> Dear Zoran Ji> Pranams> Thank you very much for giving the remedial measures.Can you kindly explain why you chose Krishna chaturdashi for fasting which happens to be Kalatra tithi.> > With Regards> Avinash> > > amar <ahimsa wrote:> Om Namah Shivaya,> Dear Avinash,> There is a curse of Guru, ekadashi dosha etc.> Surya is also bhatrikaraka and in MKS. Surya is> also Ishta Devata. The following remedial measures are advised>> 1. Fasting on Krishna chaturdashi each month/Krishna Chaturdashi Vrata with> 12 malas of Hare Rama Krishna. Anger coming on the native will go away> 2. Mrityunjaya Japa, followed by worship of Shri Ram. A good mantra would> be: Om Namo Bhagavate RamaChandraya.> After some time the curse of Guru should be removed by fasting on mondays> and worship of Shiva.> > > Zoran Radosavljevic> www.siva-edu.com> jyotish blog at> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com> > > > sohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of avinash nandan> 1. listopad 2007 9:16> sohamsa > RE: Re: remedy for MKS planets> > > Dear Zoran ji> Pranams> It has been fascinating to read the postings on MKS planets. Here is the chart of a relative whose MKS Sun has caused terrible tragedy with respect to father of the native and to 4 siblings. Could you suggest a remedy since 3 more siblings are alive but are leading a very painful life. The DOB of the native is September 12. 1955 7.12 am, bangalore.> With Regards> Avinash> > amar <ahimsa wrote:> Om Namah Shivaya,> I would agree with Sarbani. Please check Neecha bhanga Yogas.> If planets giving neecha bhanga Yoga are in fire/water signs in> Navamsa, a birth of many children is promised.What you suggest> sounds strange. It can only apply to Shani and Mangal whose position> in Rashi chart in Marana sthana will give during their dasas Raja Yogas,> provided they are not in exalted navamsas.> Guru in debilitation for Scorpio Lagna can give many children provided> that Shukra is p laced in 3rd or 9h house or Mars is placed in 3rd, 5th,6th,> 8th,9th, 11 or 12th houses.> Best wishes> Zoran> Zoran Radosavljevic> www.siva-edu.com> jyotish blog at> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com> > > sohamsa [sohamsa ]On Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski> 30. rujan 2007 19:58> sohamsa > Re: Re: remedy for MKS planets> > > Hare Rama Krsna ||> > Dear Sarbani,> > Thank you for your reply. When I mentioned neechabhanga I did not explain clearly. What I was asking is if a planet is debilitated in MKS can it give good results ie. the opposite of what one would expect. Perhaps in a similar way when a planet is debilitated and retrograde we see a reversal of effects. A debilitated planet is not likely to give good results, but then if those poor results are also dying because of MKS then perhaps that is a good thing.> The chart I have in mind has Guru debilitated in third house. Her brother died very early of a terrible disease, so the house definately was badly affected. However, she has 7 beautiful children, which is exceptional. So in this case we can see the bhava was hit by why the karaka gave such good results?> > Respectfully,> Michal> > > Sarbani Rath <sarbani> sohamsa > Sunday, September 30, 2007 9:53:47 AM> RE: Re: remedy for MKS planets> > > Hare Rama Krishna,> Dear Michal,> If the karaka of any bhava is a nicha and in MKS, it does not bode well for that bhava. The simple thumb rules of Parasara that one is supposed to begin with in analyzing a bhava, is the bhava itself, its lord and its karaka. So there must be other factors influencing the 5th house and lord. Also, if Guru is getting niche bhanga, it must be through the conventional method via Saturn, Moon or Mars.> Sarbani> > Michal Dziwulski [nearmichal@ ] > Sunday, September 30, 2007 12:00 AM> sohamsa@ .com> Re: Re: remedy for MKS planets> > > > Hare Rama Krsna ||> > Dear Zoran,> > What about debilitated planets in MKS - can this be a kind of neechabhanga? Say for Scorpio Lagna, Jupiter in the 3rd house will give good results, even for children as it is karaka and lord of the same. I have seen a couple of charts with this, but perhaps there may other factors.> > Respectfully,> Michal> > amar <ahimsa yu>> sohamsa@ .com> Friday, September 28, 2007 2:15:35 PM> RE: Re: remedy for MKS planets> Om Namah Shivaya,> > Dear Krishna> > Guru in Marana Sthana will give problems> > 1. In children front, marraige> > 2. Health/abdomen> > There are two things which help out. First it is a day birth,> > and second is vargottama ketu.> > Be careful at Meena Narayan dasha which is starting at 2012.> > The remedy is Mantra for Ganesha.> > Best wishes> > Zoran Radosavljevic> www.siva-edu. com> jyotish blog at> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> > > sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa]On Behalf Of Krishnamurthy Seetharama> 27. rujan 2007 6:20> sohamsa@ .com> RE: Re: remedy for MKS planets> Dear Zoran,> > Here are my birth details:> > DOB: 7-Sep-1958> TOB: 6:15 am> POB: Bangalore> > Please let me know if there is a cancellation of MKS for> Jupiter. I did not see any such effects during my Jupiter MD.> > Regards,> Krishna> > --- amar <ahimsa yu> wrote:> > > Dear Srivastava,> > Yes Marana sthanas always work. I would alse request a list> > member who stated that he didnot see the effects of Guru in> > Marana sthana to post the chart. There are MANY steps> > to go through when examining Marana Sthana. I have taught the> > students at SIVA each step. You have to find exactly>> > 1. Whether there is Marana Karaka dosha or is cancelled. For> > example If Surya is in Marana sthana and Guru is in kendra, a> > person> > will RISE in life against impossible odds. See the chart of> > Mahatma Gandhi.> > Similarly, there are such cancelling combinations for each> > graha. There are> > aslo night or day births to lessen or enhance marana sthana> > effects, or> > births in days or nights horas. THere are also planets which> > can block> > Marana> > sthana planets etc.> > 2. IF there is Marana sthana effect where it will hit? There> > are different> > rules> > to find out exactly whether it will hit the bhava, bhavesha or> > karaka.> > 3. If right remedy is sellected it does wonders.> > My Close friend has this problem. See the chart attached>> > In this chart, Sk and Budha are in Marana Sthana.> > I will try to give as breif analyses as I can> > 1. Shukra can damage 6th house placement> > 2. It can damage 7th house lordship> > 3. It can damage 7th house primary karaka.> > 4. It is further Cursed, Shukra Shapa.> > Where it will hit.> > 1. Chandra considerably helps to remove the dosha, and Chandra> > is exalted in> > 7th house as 9th lord,> > so he can come out of.> > 7th bhava is afflicted by budha otherwise, dharma> > karmaadhipati Yoga with AK> > is there.> > With Shiva Mantra and Aditya mantra, he quickly remedied his> > attitude> > towards women,> > and came out VERY quickly out of promiscuos phase, as well as> > came out of> > professional enemity and work> > problems *planets in 6th house affect our work and job.> > 7th lord is badly placed, so he will have to make decisions> > under terrible> > pressure, and the circumstances> > when entering a relationship are alwyas bad. He also likes a> > bad character> > women. These is also to be> > seen by 7th lord placement.> > Karaka Shukra is in Marana sthana and cursed, so his luck is> > gone.> > The worst hit is on the karaka!. When cursed, and with neecha> > Shani, the> > only remedy is Kamala. He is> > now preparing to do so. Till now, he has not had the long and> > stable> > relationship, and is still single.Thankfully> > to Chandra the remedy will work wonders and oncoming Guru> > dasha is to bring> > marriage.> > > > This is such a long topic, and I belive that in near future I> > can cover it> > on> > the blog.> > Best wishes> > Zoran Radosavljevic> > www.siva-edu. com> > jyotish blog at> > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> > > > > > [amar]> > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com> > [sohamsa@ .com]On Behalf Of> > R.C.Srivastava> > 26. rujan 2007 14:43> > sohamsa@ .com> > Re: remedy for MKS planets> > > > > > Dear Zoran and friends,> > I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the> > thread> > of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.> > Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster> > actually> > causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events> > and> > creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real> > impact it> > has?> > Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak> > parijaat> > independently to assess its damage and By the way,This> > concept is in> > real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file> > of> > astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have> > proved?> > I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it> > in> > terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge> > This was> > just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer> > ever> > wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.> > With regards.> > OM TAT SAT.> > > > sohamsa@ .com, "amar" <ahimsa@> wrote:> > >> > > Om Namah Shivaya,> > > Dear Swati,> > > You were on a good track.> > > The main point is that people stress the damage to a house> > where> > Marana> > > Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the> > greatest> > damage that> > > is done.> > > For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage> > to a> > marriage than> > > to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often> > misunderstood.> > > Graha in marana stana will damage>> > > 1. Bhavas ruled by it> > > 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka> > > 3. Bhava where it is placed> > > Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3.> > while> > wearing a> > > gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed> > will> > deal only> > > with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining> > to 1 and> > 2 are> > > related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.> > > What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not> > that> > simple when> > > trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana> > sthana graha> > is> > > placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is> > necessary,> > or when> > > such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain> > will> > come to> > > a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the> > process, such> > > graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence> > will> > surely fail in> > > such a graha,> > > and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing> > partially graha> > > from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.> > > Best wishes> > > Zoran> > >> > > Zoran Radosavljevic> > > www.siva-edu. com> > > jyotish blog at> > > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> > >> > >> > > > > > healing spaces [healingspac es@]> > > 17. rujan 2007 5:36> > > ; ahimsa@> > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> > >> > >> > > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah> > > Dear Zoran,> > >> > > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt> > Sanjayji> > sometime back> > > that i picked this thread.> > > What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya> > mantras and> > > gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is> > clearing> > the bhava> > > where MKS happens.> > > === message truncated ===> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Autos.> http://autos. / new_cars. html> > > > > > > > > > > Need a vacation? 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Many Thanks Zoran ji.

Kindly put more light on the suggested remedies please.

 

What is the correct shiva mantra as required to be chanted ?

Does it require initiation ?

How and when to do ? How much to do and How long to do ?

 

Kindly provide details on Kamala Sadhana. Does this require

initiation too ? When to do? Does the coming Navarati help any

better ?

 

Request you to kindly suggest remedies for the career progress ( 4

planets in MKS from AL in Dasama ). The native got his promotion

after 6 years (in Rahu-Sun) of struggle when most of his juniors and

colleagues have far gone ahead. Does working abroad help the

native? He has been abroad few times for work and does well wrt to

work compared to his work in India?

 

Sanjay ji in his lecture stated that Shani ( Varuna ) can uplift MKS

Venus but Shani is in 6th (MKS) from Venus. This seems a suicidal

position for Venus. Kindly throw light.

 

Any remedies for Shani®in 11th ? Does it not act as Exalted Shani

( Neecha Retrograde and Neecha Bhanga from Mars and Venus ). Does it

not contribute to any Rajayoga ? It is observed that what ever the

native feels inferior about and feels jealous about seeing others

gets those things in his life. Some times miraculously but delayed.

( Off sync with time )

 

Both the benefics 5L and 9L are retrograde and AK opposite AL and

UL. What does that indicate for the native ?

 

Kindly let us know of any life style changes / gemstones / colors to

wear or avoid / daily pujas / mantras / fastings required for the

native to rise in life spiritually and materially.

 

In gratitude. May the almighty keep the inner light glowing.

Many thanks and regards

Ravi.

 

sohamsa , " amar " <ahimsa wrote:

>

> Om Namah Shivaya,

> Dear Ravi,

> Shukra in vrischika Rashi is terribly placed in 2nd house from

> Lagnesh and Surya.The native will feel that whatever he does

> as far as his emotions are concerned is being taken away from

> him. So, rare opportuniteis for fulfilled love and marriage. Being

in Marana

> sthana he feels like dying when life punishes him in his emotional

> life.Two houses are terribly affected by Marana Sthana. One is

> 7th house-worst affected, and then 5th house 2/3rd affliction,

slightly

> less affacted.

> Thus, his choices are wrong, he falls in love with a wrong people,

> and falling love with those who are friends which is wrong and

> unfullifelled.

> To top it, there is no luck in there. As far as the children are

concerned

> chart should be checked(time to see Navamsa and Saptamsa may

change)

> and my feeling is that it may go slightly back.

> What you stated about his character is clearly seen in Chandra Ak

in 3rd

> house

> as well as Mangal in 4th bhava. SHani in 11th as vakri will smash

his hopes

> and aspiration, while Chandra in 3rd will show extreme worries and

> punishment

> Due to Shukra in Marana Shtana, he will not like to do sadhana,

yet RAMA

> Mantra is very good for world view and satya in his life

(direction).

> However,

> the real remedy should be done in two ways.

> 1. SHiva mantra to remove the curse and help Shukra out of 6th

house. Shiva

> Somanath mantra

> is brilliant for health and will help in relationships. This is

one option.

> 2. Kamala Sadhana to remedy such a bad shukra.

> Best wishes

>

> Zoran Radosavljevic

> www.siva-edu.com

> jyotish blog at

> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

>

>

> Zoran ji,

> I am very grateful to you for the wonderful analysis and remedies

on

> MKS. Pray the inner light to kindly UNLOCK the following

> horoscope with the appropriate remedies.

>

> Venus in MKS & retrograde. Rahu in MKS in Own house. Jupiter in

MKS

> from Moon.Curse on 5th and 1st and 10th and 10th in Papakartari.

> 4 planets in MKS from AL in Dasamsa. Mars in 4th doing Neechbhanga

> for Sun/Saturn but also Kuja Dosha.

>

> Native infected with Inferiority Complex, Lack of Initiative. Lack

> of creativity. Impatience. Limping progress in Career. Dried up

> complexion,emancipated look. Still Single. No luck in love /

> romance. Averse to marriage & women. Unable to enjoy the luxuries

he

> has accumulated. Constant issues with vehicles. Unable to

> make/maintain relationships. Unale to live Elecronics/latest

gadgets

> inspite of his affordability. Irregularity / Unavailability of

good

> food inspite of affordability and if available unable to eat due

to

> stress of some or other kind. Though with Guru (leaving parents)

> from Ketu in Rahu MD, unable to surrender completely to him.

> Competing and fighting with Guru.

>

> Additionally not very keen to pray to Durga ( Ishtadevata )

instead

> likes and also been initiated into Rama mantra.

>

> Very averse to eating curd since childhood, but now happily takes

it

> from 35th year ( Is it the effect of Venus in progression turning

> direct )

>

> Details: 26.10.1970 10:15 PM Hyderabad,India.

>

> Kindly help a soul out of its bondage.....

>

> Many thanks and regards

> Ravi.

>

> sohamsa@ <sohamsa%

40> .com, avinash

> nandan <avina121@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Zoran Ji

> > Pranams

> > Thank you very much for giving the remedial measures.Can you

> kindly explain why you chose Krishna chaturdashi for fasting which

> happens to be Kalatra tithi.

> >

> > With Regards

> > Avinash

> >

> >

> > amar <ahimsa@> wrote:

> > Om Namah Shivaya,

> > Dear Avinash,

> > There is a curse of Guru, ekadashi dosha etc.

> > Surya is also bhatrikaraka and in MKS. Surya is

> > also Ishta Devata. The following remedial measures are advised>

> > 1. Fasting on Krishna chaturdashi each month/Krishna Chaturdashi

> Vrata with

> > 12 malas of Hare Rama Krishna. Anger coming on the native will

> go away

> > 2. Mrityunjaya Japa, followed by worship of Shri Ram. A good

> mantra would

> > be: Om Namo Bhagavate RamaChandraya.

> > After some time the curse of Guru should be removed by fasting

> on mondays

> > and worship of Shiva.

> >

> >

> > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > www.siva-edu.com

> > jyotish blog at

> > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

> >

> >

> >

> > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> .com

> [sohamsa@ <sohamsa%

40> .com]On

> Behalf Of avinash nandan

> > 1. listopad 2007 9:16

> > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> .com

> > RE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

> >

> >

> > Dear Zoran ji

> > Pranams

> > It has been fascinating to read the postings on MKS planets.

> Here is the chart of a relative whose MKS Sun has caused terrible

> tragedy with respect to father of the native and to 4 siblings.

> Could you suggest a remedy since 3 more siblings are alive but are

> leading a very painful life. The DOB of the native is September

12.

> 1955 7.12 am, bangalore.

> > With Regards

> > Avinash

> >

> > amar <ahimsa@> wrote:

> > Om Namah Shivaya,

> > I would agree with Sarbani. Please check Neecha bhanga Yogas.

> > If planets giving neecha bhanga Yoga are in fire/water signs in

> > Navamsa, a birth of many children is promised.What you suggest

> > sounds strange. It can only apply to Shani and Mangal whose

> position

> > in Rashi chart in Marana sthana will give during their dasas

> Raja Yogas,

> > provided they are not in exalted navamsas.

> > Guru in debilitation for Scorpio Lagna can give many children

> provided

> > that Shukra is p laced in 3rd or 9h house or Mars is placed in

> 3rd, 5th,6th,

> > 8th,9th, 11 or 12th houses.

> > Best wishes

> > Zoran

> > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > www.siva-edu.com

> > jyotish blog at

> > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

> >

> >

> > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> .com

> [sohamsa@ <sohamsa%

40> .com]On

> Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski

> > 30. rujan 2007 19:58

> > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> .com

> > Re: Re: remedy for MKS planets

> >

> >

> > Hare Rama Krsna ||

> >

> > Dear Sarbani,

> >

> > Thank you for your reply. When I mentioned neechabhanga I did

not

> explain clearly. What I was asking is if a planet is debilitated

in

> MKS can it give good results ie. the opposite of what one would

> expect. Perhaps in a similar way when a planet is debilitated and

> retrograde we see a reversal of effects. A debilitated planet is

> not likely to give good results, but then if those poor results

are

> also dying because of MKS then perhaps that is a good thing.

> > The chart I have in mind has Guru debilitated in third house.

Her

> brother died very early of a terrible disease, so the house

> definately was badly affected. However, she has 7 beautiful

> children, which is exceptional. So in this case we can see the

> bhava was hit by why the karaka gave such good results?

> >

> > Respectfully,

> > Michal

> >

> >

> > Sarbani Rath <sarbani@>

> > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> .com

> > Sunday, September 30, 2007 9:53:47 AM

> > RE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

> >

> >

> > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > Dear Michal,

> > If the karaka of any bhava is a nicha and in MKS, it does not

> bode well for that bhava. The simple thumb rules of Parasara that

> one is supposed to begin with in analyzing a bhava, is the bhava

> itself, its lord and its karaka. So there must be other factors

> influencing the 5th house and lord. Also, if Guru is getting niche

> bhanga, it must be through the conventional method via Saturn,

Moon

> or Mars.

> > Sarbani

> >

> > Michal Dziwulski [nearmichal@ ]

> > Sunday, September 30, 2007 12:00 AM

> > sohamsa@ .com

> > Re: Re: remedy for MKS planets

> >

> >

> >

> > Hare Rama Krsna ||

> >

> > Dear Zoran,

> >

> > What about debilitated planets in MKS - can this be a kind of

> neechabhanga? Say for Scorpio Lagna, Jupiter in the 3rd house will

> give good results, even for children as it is karaka and lord of

the

> same. I have seen a couple of charts with this, but perhaps there

> may other factors.

> >

> > Respectfully,

> > Michal

> >

> > amar <ahimsa@ yu>

> > sohamsa@ .com

> > Friday, September 28, 2007 2:15:35 PM

> > RE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

> > Om Namah Shivaya,

> >

> > Dear Krishna

> >

> > Guru in Marana Sthana will give problems

> >

> > 1. In children front, marraige

> >

> > 2. Health/abdomen

> >

> > There are two things which help out. First it is a day birth,

> >

> > and second is vargottama ketu.

> >

> > Be careful at Meena Narayan dasha which is starting at 2012.

> >

> > The remedy is Mantra for Ganesha.

> >

> > Best wishes

> >

> > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > www.siva-edu. com

> > jyotish blog at

> > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com

> >

> >

> > sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa]

> On Behalf Of Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> > 27. rujan 2007 6:20

> > sohamsa@ .com

> > RE: Re: remedy for MKS planets

> > Dear Zoran,

> >

> > Here are my birth details:

> >

> > DOB: 7-Sep-1958

> > TOB: 6:15 am

> > POB: Bangalore

> >

> > Please let me know if there is a cancellation of MKS for

> > Jupiter. I did not see any such effects during my Jupiter MD.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> >

> > --- amar <ahimsa@ yu> wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Srivastava,

> > > Yes Marana sthanas always work. I would alse request a list

> > > member who stated that he didnot see the effects of Guru in

> > > Marana sthana to post the chart. There are MANY steps

> > > to go through when examining Marana Sthana. I have taught the

> > > students at SIVA each step. You have to find exactly>

> > > 1. Whether there is Marana Karaka dosha or is cancelled. For

> > > example If Surya is in Marana sthana and Guru is in kendra, a

> > > person

> > > will RISE in life against impossible odds. See the chart of

> > > Mahatma Gandhi.

> > > Similarly, there are such cancelling combinations for each

> > > graha. There are

> > > aslo night or day births to lessen or enhance marana sthana

> > > effects, or

> > > births in days or nights horas. THere are also planets which

> > > can block

> > > Marana

> > > sthana planets etc.

> > > 2. IF there is Marana sthana effect where it will hit? There

> > > are different

> > > rules

> > > to find out exactly whether it will hit the bhava, bhavesha or

> > > karaka.

> > > 3. If right remedy is sellected it does wonders.

> > > My Close friend has this problem. See the chart attached>

> > > In this chart, Sk and Budha are in Marana Sthana.

> > > I will try to give as breif analyses as I can

> > > 1. Shukra can damage 6th house placement

> > > 2. It can damage 7th house lordship

> > > 3. It can damage 7th house primary karaka.

> > > 4. It is further Cursed, Shukra Shapa.

> > > Where it will hit.

> > > 1. Chandra considerably helps to remove the dosha, and Chandra

> > > is exalted in

> > > 7th house as 9th lord,

> > > so he can come out of.

> > > 7th bhava is afflicted by budha otherwise, dharma

> > > karmaadhipati Yoga with AK

> > > is there.

> > > With Shiva Mantra and Aditya mantra, he quickly remedied his

> > > attitude

> > > towards women,

> > > and came out VERY quickly out of promiscuos phase, as well as

> > > came out of

> > > professional enemity and work

> > > problems *planets in 6th house affect our work and job.

> > > 7th lord is badly placed, so he will have to make decisions

> > > under terrible

> > > pressure, and the circumstances

> > > when entering a relationship are alwyas bad. He also likes a

> > > bad character

> > > women. These is also to be

> > > seen by 7th lord placement.

> > > Karaka Shukra is in Marana sthana and cursed, so his luck is

> > > gone.

> > > The worst hit is on the karaka!. When cursed, and with neecha

> > > Shani, the

> > > only remedy is Kamala. He is

> > > now preparing to do so. Till now, he has not had the long and

> > > stable

> > > relationship, and is still single.Thankfully

> > > to Chandra the remedy will work wonders and oncoming Guru

> > > dasha is to bring

> > > marriage.

> > >

> > > This is such a long topic, and I belive that in near future I

> > > can cover it

> > > on

> > > the blog.

> > > Best wishes

> > > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > > www.siva-edu. com

> > > jyotish blog at

> > > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com

> > >

> > >

> > > [amar]

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > [sohamsa@ .com]On Behalf Of

> > > R.C.Srivastava

> > > 26. rujan 2007 14:43

> > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > Re: remedy for MKS planets

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Zoran and friends,

> > > I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the

> > > thread

> > > of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.

> > > Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster

> > > actually

> > > causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events

> > > and

> > > creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real

> > > impact it

> > > has?

> > > Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak

> > > parijaat

> > > independently to assess its damage and By the way,This

> > > concept is in

> > > real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file

> > > of

> > > astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have

> > > proved?

> > > I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it

> > > in

> > > terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge

> > > This was

> > > just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer

> > > ever

> > > wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.

> > > With regards.

> > > OM TAT SAT.

> > >

> > > sohamsa@ .com, " amar " <ahimsa@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Om Namah Shivaya,

> > > > Dear Swati,

> > > > You were on a good track.

> > > > The main point is that people stress the damage to a house

> > > where

> > > Marana

> > > > Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the

> > > greatest

> > > damage that

> > > > is done.

> > > > For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage

> > > to a

> > > marriage than

> > > > to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often

> > > misunderstood.

> > > > Graha in marana stana will damage>

> > > > 1. Bhavas ruled by it

> > > > 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka

> > > > 3. Bhava where it is placed

> > > > Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3.

> > > while

> > > wearing a

> > > > gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed

> > > will

> > > deal only

> > > > with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining

> > > to 1 and

> > > 2 are

> > > > related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.

> > > > What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not

> > > that

> > > simple when

> > > > trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana

> > > sthana graha

> > > is

> > > > placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is

> > > necessary,

> > > or when

> > > > such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain

> > > will

> > > come to

> > > > a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the

> > > process, such

> > > > graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence

> > > will

> > > surely fail in

> > > > such a graha,

> > > > and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing

> > > partially graha

> > > > from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.

> > > > Best wishes

> > > > Zoran

> > > >

> > > > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > > > www.siva-edu. com

> > > > jyotish blog at

> > > > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > healing spaces [healingspac es@]

> > > > 17. rujan 2007 5:36

> > > > ; ahimsa@

> > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah

> > > > Dear Zoran,

> > > >

> > > > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt

> > > Sanjayji

> > > sometime back

> > > > that i picked this thread.

> > > > What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya

> > > mantras and

> > > > gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is

> > > clearing

> > > the bhava

> > > > where MKS happens.

> > >

> > === message truncated ===

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

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Om Namah Shivaya,

Dear Ravi,

Please bear with my till the weekend,

You have put so many questions:)

Best wishes

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sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of ravisamala4. listopad 2007 20:20sohamsa Subject: Re: remedy for MKS planets

 

 

Many Thanks Zoran ji. Kindly put more light on the suggested remedies please.What is the correct shiva mantra as required to be chanted ?Does it require initiation ?How and when to do ? How much to do and How long to do ?Kindly provide details on Kamala Sadhana. Does this require initiation too ? When to do? Does the coming Navarati help any better ?Request you to kindly suggest remedies for the career progress ( 4 planets in MKS from AL in Dasama ). The native got his promotion after 6 years (in Rahu-Sun) of struggle when most of his juniors and colleagues have far gone ahead. Does working abroad help the native? He has been abroad few times for work and does well wrt to work compared to his work in India? Sanjay ji in his lecture stated that Shani ( Varuna ) can uplift MKS Venus but Shani is in 6th (MKS) from Venus. This seems a suicidal position for Venus. Kindly throw light.Any remedies for Shani®in 11th ? Does it not act as Exalted Shani ( Neecha Retrograde and Neecha Bhanga from Mars and Venus ). Does it not contribute to any Rajayoga ? It is observed that what ever the native feels inferior about and feels jealous about seeing others gets those things in his life. Some times miraculously but delayed. ( Off sync with time )Both the benefics 5L and 9L are retrograde and AK opposite AL and UL. What does that indicate for the native ?Kindly let us know of any life style changes / gemstones / colors to wear or avoid / daily pujas / mantras / fastings required for the native to rise in life spiritually and materially.In gratitude. May the almighty keep the inner light glowing.Many thanks and regardsRavi.sohamsa , "amar" <ahimsa wrote:>> Om Namah Shivaya,> Dear Ravi,> Shukra in vrischika Rashi is terribly placed in 2nd house from > Lagnesh and Surya.The native will feel that whatever he does> as far as his emotions are concerned is being taken away from> him. So, rare opportuniteis for fulfilled love and marriage. Being in Marana> sthana he feels like dying when life punishes him in his emotional> life.Two houses are terribly affected by Marana Sthana. One is > 7th house-worst affected, and then 5th house 2/3rd affliction, slightly> less affacted.> Thus, his choices are wrong, he falls in love with a wrong people,> and falling love with those who are friends which is wrong and> unfullifelled.> To top it, there is no luck in there. As far as the children are concerned> chart should be checked(time to see Navamsa and Saptamsa may change)> and my feeling is that it may go slightly back. > What you stated about his character is clearly seen in Chandra Ak in 3rd> house> as well as Mangal in 4th bhava. SHani in 11th as vakri will smash his hopes> and aspiration, while Chandra in 3rd will show extreme worries and> punishment> Due to Shukra in Marana Shtana, he will not like to do sadhana, yet RAMA> Mantra is very good for world view and satya in his life(direction).> However,> the real remedy should be done in two ways.> 1. SHiva mantra to remove the curse and help Shukra out of 6th house. Shiva> Somanath mantra> is brilliant for health and will help in relationships. This is one option. > 2. Kamala Sadhana to remedy such a bad shukra.> Best wishes> > Zoran Radosavljevic> www.siva-edu.com> jyotish blog at> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com> > > > > > _____ > > > > > Zoran ji,> I am very grateful to you for the wonderful analysis and remedies on > MKS. Pray the inner light to kindly UNLOCK the following > horoscope with the appropriate remedies.> > Venus in MKS & retrograde. Rahu in MKS in Own house. Jupiter in MKS > from Moon.Curse on 5th and 1st and 10th and 10th in Papakartari.> 4 planets in MKS from AL in Dasamsa. Mars in 4th doing Neechbhanga > for Sun/Saturn but also Kuja Dosha.> > Native infected with Inferiority Complex, Lack of Initiative. Lack > of creativity. Impatience. Limping progress in Career. Dried up > complexion,emancipated look. Still Single. No luck in love / > romance. Averse to marriage & women. Unable to enjoy the luxuries he > has accumulated. Constant issues with vehicles. Unable to > make/maintain relationships. Unale to live Elecronics/latest gadgets > inspite of his affordability. Irregularity / Unavailability of good > food inspite of affordability and if available unable to eat due to > stress of some or other kind. Though with Guru (leaving parents) > from Ketu in Rahu MD, unable to surrender completely to him. > Competing and fighting with Guru.> > Additionally not very keen to pray to Durga ( Ishtadevata ) instead > likes and also been initiated into Rama mantra.> > Very averse to eating curd since childhood, but now happily takes it > from 35th year ( Is it the effect of Venus in progression turning > direct )> > Details: 26.10.1970 10:15 PM Hyderabad,India.> > Kindly help a soul out of its bondage.....> > Many thanks and regards> Ravi.> > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> .com, avinash> nandan <avina121@> wrote:> >> > Dear Zoran Ji> > Pranams> > Thank you very much for giving the remedial measures.Can you > kindly explain why you chose Krishna chaturdashi for fasting which > happens to be Kalatra tithi.> > > > With Regards> > Avinash> > > > > > amar <ahimsa@> wrote:> > Om Namah Shivaya,> > Dear Avinash,> > There is a curse of Guru, ekadashi dosha etc.> > Surya is also bhatrikaraka and in MKS. Surya is> > also Ishta Devata. The following remedial measures are advised>> > 1. Fasting on Krishna chaturdashi each month/Krishna Chaturdashi > Vrata with> > 12 malas of Hare Rama Krishna. Anger coming on the native will > go away> > 2. Mrityunjaya Japa, followed by worship of Shri Ram. A good > mantra would> > be: Om Namo Bhagavate RamaChandraya.> > After some time the curse of Guru should be removed by fasting > on mondays> > and worship of Shiva.> > > > > > Zoran Radosavljevic> > www.siva-edu.com> > jyotish blog at> > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com> > > > > > > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> .com> [sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> .com]On > Behalf Of avinash nandan> > 1. listopad 2007 9:16> > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> .com> > RE: Re: remedy for MKS planets> > > > > > Dear Zoran ji> > Pranams> > It has been fascinating to read the postings on MKS planets. > Here is the chart of a relative whose MKS Sun has caused terrible > tragedy with respect to father of the native and to 4 siblings. > Could you suggest a remedy since 3 more siblings are alive but are > leading a very painful life. The DOB of the native is September 12. > 1955 7.12 am, bangalore.> > With Regards> > Avinash> > > > amar <ahimsa@> wrote:> > Om Namah Shivaya,> > I would agree with Sarbani. Please check Neecha bhanga Yogas.> > If planets giving neecha bhanga Yoga are in fire/water signs in> > Navamsa, a birth of many children is promised.What you suggest> > sounds strange. It can only apply to Shani and Mangal whose > position> > in Rashi chart in Marana sthana will give during their dasas > Raja Yogas,> > provided they are not in exalted navamsas.> > Guru in debilitation for Scorpio Lagna can give many children > provided> > that Shukra is p laced in 3rd or 9h house or Mars is placed in > 3rd, 5th,6th,> > 8th,9th, 11 or 12th houses.> > Best wishes> > Zoran> > Zoran Radosavljevic> > www.siva-edu.com> > jyotish blog at> > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com> > > > > > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> .com> [sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> .com]On > Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski> > 30. rujan 2007 19:58> > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> .com> > Re: Re: remedy for MKS planets> > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna ||> > > > Dear Sarbani,> > > > Thank you for your reply. When I mentioned neechabhanga I did not > explain clearly. What I was asking is if a planet is debilitated in > MKS can it give good results ie. the opposite of what one would > expect. Perhaps in a similar way when a planet is debilitated and > retrograde we see a reversal of effects. A debilitated planet is > not likely to give good results, but then if those poor results are > also dying because of MKS then perhaps that is a good thing.> > The chart I have in mind has Guru debilitated in third house. Her > brother died very early of a terrible disease, so the house > definately was badly affected. However, she has 7 beautiful > children, which is exceptional. So in this case we can see the > bhava was hit by why the karaka gave such good results?> > > > Respectfully,> > Michal> > > > > > Sarbani Rath <sarbani@>> > sohamsa@ <sohamsa%40> .com> > Sunday, September 30, 2007 9:53:47 AM> > RE: Re: remedy for MKS planets> > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,> > Dear Michal,> > If the karaka of any bhava is a nicha and in MKS, it does not > bode well for that bhava. The simple thumb rules of Parasara that > one is supposed to begin with in analyzing a bhava, is the bhava > itself, its lord and its karaka. So there must be other factors > influencing the 5th house and lord. Also, if Guru is getting niche > bhanga, it must be through the conventional method via Saturn, Moon > or Mars.> > Sarbani> > > > Michal Dziwulski [nearmichal@ ] > > Sunday, September 30, 2007 12:00 AM> > sohamsa@ .com> > Re: Re: remedy for MKS planets> > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna ||> > > > Dear Zoran,> > > > What about debilitated planets in MKS - can this be a kind of > neechabhanga? Say for Scorpio Lagna, Jupiter in the 3rd house will > give good results, even for children as it is karaka and lord of the > same. I have seen a couple of charts with this, but perhaps there > may other factors.> > > > Respectfully,> > Michal> > > > amar <ahimsa@ yu>> > sohamsa@ .com> > Friday, September 28, 2007 2:15:35 PM> > RE: Re: remedy for MKS planets> > Om Namah Shivaya,> > > > Dear Krishna> > > > Guru in Marana Sthana will give problems> > > > 1. In children front, marraige> > > > 2. Health/abdomen> > > > There are two things which help out. First it is a day birth,> > > > and second is vargottama ketu.> > > > Be careful at Meena Narayan dasha which is starting at 2012.> > > > The remedy is Mantra for Ganesha.> > > > Best wishes> > > > Zoran Radosavljevic> > www.siva-edu. com> > jyotish blog at> > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com [sohamsa]> On Behalf Of Krishnamurthy Seetharama> > 27. rujan 2007 6:20> > sohamsa@ .com> > RE: Re: remedy for MKS planets> > Dear Zoran,> > > > Here are my birth details:> > > > DOB: 7-Sep-1958> > TOB: 6:15 am> > POB: Bangalore> > > > Please let me know if there is a cancellation of MKS for> > Jupiter. I did not see any such effects during my Jupiter MD.> > > > Regards,> > Krishna> > > > --- amar <ahimsa@ yu> wrote:> > > > > Dear Srivastava,> > > Yes Marana sthanas always work. I would alse request a list> > > member who stated that he didnot see the effects of Guru in> > > Marana sthana to post the chart. There are MANY steps> > > to go through when examining Marana Sthana. I have taught the> > > students at SIVA each step. You have to find exactly>> > > 1. Whether there is Marana Karaka dosha or is cancelled. For> > > example If Surya is in Marana sthana and Guru is in kendra, a> > > person> > > will RISE in life against impossible odds. See the chart of> > > Mahatma Gandhi.> > > Similarly, there are such cancelling combinations for each> > > graha. There are> > > aslo night or day births to lessen or enhance marana sthana> > > effects, or> > > births in days or nights horas. THere are also planets which> > > can block> > > Marana> > > sthana planets etc.> > > 2. IF there is Marana sthana effect where it will hit? There> > > are different> > > rules> > > to find out exactly whether it will hit the bhava, bhavesha or> > > karaka.> > > 3. If right remedy is sellected it does wonders.> > > My Close friend has this problem. See the chart attached>> > > In this chart, Sk and Budha are in Marana Sthana.> > > I will try to give as breif analyses as I can> > > 1. Shukra can damage 6th house placement> > > 2. It can damage 7th house lordship> > > 3. It can damage 7th house primary karaka.> > > 4. It is further Cursed, Shukra Shapa.> > > Where it will hit.> > > 1. Chandra considerably helps to remove the dosha, and Chandra> > > is exalted in> > > 7th house as 9th lord,> > > so he can come out of.> > > 7th bhava is afflicted by budha otherwise, dharma> > > karmaadhipati Yoga with AK> > > is there.> > > With Shiva Mantra and Aditya mantra, he quickly remedied his> > > attitude> > > towards women,> > > and came out VERY quickly out of promiscuos phase, as well as> > > came out of> > > professional enemity and work> > > problems *planets in 6th house affect our work and job.> > > 7th lord is badly placed, so he will have to make decisions> > > under terrible> > > pressure, and the circumstances> > > when entering a relationship are alwyas bad. He also likes a> > > bad character> > > women. These is also to be> > > seen by 7th lord placement.> > > Karaka Shukra is in Marana sthana and cursed, so his luck is> > > gone.> > > The worst hit is on the karaka!. When cursed, and with neecha> > > Shani, the> > > only remedy is Kamala. He is> > > now preparing to do so. Till now, he has not had the long and> > > stable> > > relationship, and is still single.Thankfully> > > to Chandra the remedy will work wonders and oncoming Guru> > > dasha is to bring> > > marriage.> > > > > > This is such a long topic, and I belive that in near future I> > > can cover it> > > on> > > the blog.> > > Best wishes> > > Zoran Radosavljevic> > > www.siva-edu. com> > > jyotish blog at> > > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> > > > > > > > > [amar]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com> > > [sohamsa@ .com]On Behalf Of> > > R.C.Srivastava> > > 26. rujan 2007 14:43> > > sohamsa@ .com> > > Re: remedy for MKS planets> > > > > > > > > Dear Zoran and friends,> > > I am always spell bound by knowledgeable discussion on the> > > thread> > > of MKS.Very good & Bright insights I see from GURUS.> > > Somtimes a thought occurs to me, how much This Monster> > > actually> > > causes Harm in real life? Apart from justifying past events> > > and> > > creating awareness to possible future damage ,What real> > > impact it> > > has?> > > Has any one done done real study on MKS Concept of Jatak> > > parijaat> > > independently to assess its damage and By the way,This> > > concept is in> > > real circulation since around year 2000 among rank and file> > > of> > > astrologers, How effective are the remedies offered have> > > proved?> > > I do not know the Answer but hope Experts can teach about it> > > in> > > terms of their experience of about 7 years.To my knowledge> > > This was> > > just a concept written in book and no practicing astrologer> > > ever> > > wrote anything about it in pre 1998 ERA.> > > With regards.> > > OM TAT SAT.> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "amar" <ahimsa@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Om Namah Shivaya,> > > > Dear Swati,> > > > You were on a good track.> > > > The main point is that people stress the damage to a house> > > where> > > Marana> > > > Karaka graha is placed. However, this is not always the> > > greatest> > > damage that> > > > is done.> > > > For example, Shukra in 6th house will create more damage> > > to a> > > marriage than> > > > to a health or enemies. Thus, this point is often> > > misunderstood.> > > > Graha in marana stana will damage>> > > > 1. Bhavas ruled by it> > > > 2. Bhavas for which Graha is karaka> > > > 3. Bhava where it is placed> > > > Aditya mantras will mostly solve down the problem under 3.> > > while> > > wearing a> > > > gemstone for a karaka, where Marana stana graha is placed> > > will> > > deal only> > > > with problem 3. Most people fail when problems pertaining> > > to 1 and> > > 2 are> > > > related. In such cases, remedies given will not work.> > > > What you stated about Jupiter is correct. The issue is not> > > that> > > simple when> > > > trying to give the best remedy. For example if Marana> > > sthana graha> > > is> > > > placed in Chandradhi Yoga then Adhi devata worship is> > > necessary,> > > or when> > > > such a graha is placed in 10th from Surya, a terrible pain> > > will> > > come to> > > > a person, and there is a little a person can do. If in the> > > process, such> > > > graha is badly placed from paka Lagna, the intelligence> > > will> > > surely fail in> > > > such a graha,> > > > and a person will not perform remedial measure. So, seing> > > partially graha> > > > from lagna only will hardly give a comprehensive picture.> > > > Best wishes> > > > Zoran> > > >> > > > Zoran Radosavljevic> > > > www.siva-edu. com> > > > jyotish blog at> > > > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > healing spaces [healingspac es@]> > > > 17. rujan 2007 5:36> > > > ; ahimsa@> > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] remedy for MKS planets> > > >> > > >> > > > Om Gurave Namah : : Om Mahaganpataye Namah> > > > Dear Zoran,> > > >> > > > It is from your mail last month and one mail of Pt> > > Sanjayji> > > sometime back> > > > that i picked this thread.> > > > What u seem to be mentioning is that by the ghrini Aditya> > > mantras and> > > > gemstones of the karak planet where MKS happens ,it is> > > clearing> > > the bhava> > > > where MKS happens.> > > > > === message truncated ===> > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> > Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Autos.> > http://autos. / new_cars. html> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Need a vacation? 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