Guest guest Report post Posted October 27, 2008 Respected Gurujis, I think we are on the way of individualising the asience of astrology with out considering the accuracy in prediction. Parasara then KSK the DR. Kar and then others, I mean to say, traditional propounded by the sages, the stellar and sub theory propounded by KSK, the sub-sub theory propounded by Dr. Kar followed by sub-sub-sub theories the sub-sub-sub-sub- +++ theories and so on. I think we should honour all who have made an attempt to research and find out the more accurate methods. With out critising the individuals and the theories we have to change aour attitude. I would rather suggest Sri Mahan Kumarji to take at least one horoscope and predict a paricular event in the life of the native. I would request him to predict according to traditional systen, according to KSK Stellar System and also according to Dr. Kar's Sub-Sub theory seperately. One has to find out if the three syatems give the same result, which one is easier and which one is accurate. All three predictions are to be done by the same person only ao that the knoledge, the proficiency the idea the thout process would not differ in prediction. Its simply futile to ponder in the dark. The discussions should be productive and result oriented. I may not be mis understand. The other issue is 'Mars Dosha" It is also gowing in a wrong way. We have to realise the waste of time and energy in increasing confussions. With regards. Dr. Luther Rath. Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrology Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 10:51:54 PMRe: Re: Vimshottari dasa Dear Tin Win Sir,It seems that you are not for any of Dr.KAR's ideas. It's okay. Let it be my piece of cake. I consider Dr.KAR's approach simpler than that of KSK in some respects, though the former has taken a deeper step, of course, based on the latter's.Nevertheless, I don't expect any approach to be absolutely consistent, nor do I claim Dr.Kar's is.I admire his findings on the ground that he, at this age and living in a remote village, without the use of any modern gadgets like computers, but for a 10-digit ordinary calculator, can do research to such an extent.Who else other than Dr.KAR, do you think, can have the guts to say: "KSK's Sublord Theory is like an old model car of 1920s, while my SubSub Theory is like the one of modern technology of today." This, he has written in his letter to me ( in 2002).These words are not to be mistaken in any sense as humiliating KP or anything like that. No, not at all. These strong words only reveal the confidence he had in his own approach. It is quite natural that anyone who has put in so much study and experiment would certainly boast of the results when it really works for him. We may not get correctly sometimes.May be that is because we are not able to get to the core of his teachings. Most of us are just used to saying very easily - 'This does not work, that does not work.." and so on. This kind of thinking will be good only when we ourselves can come out with a better solution for the problems we see in other's findings. Until then, it is better to be convinced with an idea to the extent we can accept the same. If we are not convinced really, we have to go on looking for somebody else to feed us in a better way. Let us all take it easy.With thanks and warm regards,MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English TutorAdvanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006Cell: 99443-07025 tw853 <tw853 >@gro ups.comSaturday, October 25, 2008 4:11:15 PM Re: Vimshottari dasa Dear Mohan Kumar Ragunathan,Is his approach is simple?Is his approach is consistent without exceptions?Thanks and regards,tw@gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote:>> Of course again, it is only about the particular issue of subject matter, namely "Vimshottari Dasa", the said person is referred to. He does have many other subject matters to his credit, not to mention them.> > With thanks and warm regards,> > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> Cell: 99443-07025> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> tw853 <tw853> @gro ups.com> Saturday, October 25, 2008 6:32:36 AM> Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > Discussion is supposed to be on the issue not on the person.> > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan> <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Friends, > > Of course, it is only "Dr.Kar's Dream Theory" and none other's. > > It is not an absolute necessity for anyone to appreciate or applaud> the great researcher's own ideas, that too, not when he is no more.> > Nobody existing on this planet knows about Parashara's originality> and individuality in this regard. > > But it is a fact that we know about, at least, one person on this earth> > who existed in the recent past who could think about it and give an> idea.> > > > With thanks and warm regards,> > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> > Cell: 99443-07025> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@ ..>> > @gro ups.com> > Cc: Kanak Bosmia <loger@ ...>; Mr.A.R.Raichur <raichurar@ ..>> > Friday, October 24, 2008 7:58:25 PM> > Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > Dear Tin Win,> > Contrary to your "research paper",which, in my> opinion is not properly directed towards the effects of Mars Dosha,but> only towards the "existence" or otherwise of "Mars Dosha"... Evil> effects of Mars Dosha DO EXIST/OCCUR ... even as per K.P.> Principles,as elaborated in ASTROSECRETS & K.P., by the late eminent> astrologer and Guruji's Student, as well as Guruji himself originally,> Mars Dosha as per K.P., exists only when :> > Mars is in Sun's Star or own star,and occupying the houses> I,II,IV,VII, VIII & XII..> > Mr.Subhash Ektare is very right,indeed, in my> humble opinion...> > What is desireable is a comprehensive study of> the occurence and effects of Mars Dosha,if any manifested in the> cases taken for analysis...> > I urge you and Mr.Bosmia to carry out such a> study...> > With best wishes,> > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > tw853 <tw853 >> > @gro ups.com> > Friday, 24 October, 2008 6:04:09 PM> > Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > 1. It's Dr. Kar's dream theory in his last article in "KP & Astrology > > Year Book 2004" pp 63-70 before he passed away.> > > > 2. With due respect to Dr. Kar, my personal view is that this theory > > does not seem like Maharshi Parashara's style of thinking as he > > explained Vimshotarri Dasa in Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra. > > > > 3. The Vimshotarri Dasa system does not seem to be directly derived > > from any celestial cycle or event. In spite of a variety of ingenious > > explanations, no one knows why each dasha was allocated in specific > > number of years , nor even why the planets were arranged in their > > specific order. These rules have been accepted after verifying them > > through experience.> > > > Regards,> > > > tw> > > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sir,> > > Being his last student by correspondence coaching, Dr.Pt.KAR Ji has > > told me about this theory of his, which he called "My Dream > > Theory"and had worked on it for nearly two years.> > > You can find it in "KP & Astrology Year Book 2004".> > > I can send you a xerox copy of it by post, if i can have your > > address.> > > You may send it to my mail box, if you don't mind it.> > > > > > With thanks and warm regards,> > > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> > > Cell: 99443-07025> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pankaj Lakhlani <p_lakhlani2003@ ...>> > > @gro ups.com> > > Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:17:31 PM> > > Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > > Sir;> > > Please be kind and send a copy of the artical directly. When > > received through the group, the attachment was not sent along with.> > > > > > Thanking you in anticipation;> > > > > > Yours faithfully;> > > P Lakhlani> > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > > Dear Gopalakrishnan,> > > The late Mr. K.R.Kar, a very > > eminent researcher and proloific writer on K.P., has explained the > > rationale of the Vimshottari Dasa...also I have not found the > > rationale for the Vimshottari Dasa in any of the Text Books of > > Traditional Astrology...> > > I am sending you his entire article > > which appeared in an Annual of the Magazine, K.P. & Astrology...> > > I hope that you will try to digest > > the substance of the article...> > > In my humble opinion,the article is > > simple and well-written and therefore,I do not expect you to ask me > > any further queries on this subject...> > > With the very best wishes,> > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > Gopalakrishnan Subra Iyer <subragops3>> > > @gro ups.com> > > Wednesday, 22 October, 2008 10:19:47 AM> > > Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > > Dear Learned members of this group,> > > > > > I have a very basic question regarding the Vimshottari Dasa. What > > is the rationale for giving 6 years to Sun, 10 years to moon, 7 years > > to Mars etc...? I'm sure there must be a valid reason for this type > > of allotment of different time frame to the nine planets.> > > > > > Please enlighten me with your thoughts.> > > > > > Regards> > > S.Gopalakrishnan > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click > > here> > >> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.> >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 27, 2008 Dear Friend,I just mentioned about Dr.KAR's idea on allocation of Years under Vimshottari Dasa system.I do admire his new findings or his creativity just for the sake of it. Whether they are working well or not is a different matter of issue.I got tensed up on your questioning about the efficacy of his approach. This question should actually be sent to the research group under "Testing of New Theories".Now that I have my own concept of analysing a chart, and as Dr.KAR himself is no more, I do not totally rely on his theories alone. However, I have borrowed some of his ideas and am making use of it, especially the idea of his on who are the significators of 12 Houses.It is up to one's option to go for his approach or not.Thanks anyway, friend.With thanks and warm regards,MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English TutorAdvanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006Cell: 99443-07025tw853 <tw853 Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 7:30:43 AM Re: Vimshottari dasa Dear Friend, As you're not discussing the issue, there is no reason to continue this discussion. The simple question: if it is simple, is the same idea is applied to all planets? It will be helpful, if anything more is available in addition to the list in the File section under: DR. KAR'S SUB-SUB THEORY ARTICLES.doc DR. KAR'S SUB-SUB THOERY ARTICLES Thanks and regards, tw @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Tin Win Sir, > It seems that you are not for any of Dr.KAR's ideas. It's okay. Let it be my piece of cake. > I consider Dr.KAR's approach simpler than that of KSK in some respects, though the former has taken a deeper step, of course, based on the latter's. > Nevertheless, I don't expect any approach to be absolutely consistent, nor do I claim Dr.Kar's is. > I admire his findings on the ground that he, at this age and living in a remote village, without the use of any modern gadgets like computers, but for a 10-digit ordinary calculator, can do research to such an extent. > Who else other than Dr.KAR, do you think, can have the guts to say: "KSK's Sublord Theory is like an old model car of 1920s, while my SubSub Theory is like the one of modern technology of today." This, he has written in his letter to me ( in 2002). > These words are not to be mistaken in any sense as humiliating KP or anything like that. No, not at all. These strong words only reveal the confidence he had in his own approach. It is quite natural that anyone who has put in so much study and experiment would certainly boast of the results when it really works for him. > We may not get correctly sometimes.May be that is because we are not able to get to the core of his teachings. > Most of us are just used to saying very easily - 'This does not work, that does not work.." and so on. This kind of thinking will be good only when we ourselves can come out with a better solution for the problems we see in other's findings. > Until then, it is better to be convinced with an idea to the extent we can accept the same. If we are not convinced really, we have to go on looking for somebody else to feed us in a better way. > Let us all take it easy. > > With thanks and warm regards, > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.) > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based) > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006 > Cell: 99443-07025 > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > tw853 <tw853 > @gro ups.com > Saturday, October 25, 2008 4:11:15 PM > Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > Dear Mohan Kumar Ragunathan, > > Is his approach is simple? > Is his approach is consistent without exceptions? > > Thanks and regards, > > tw > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote: > > > > Of course again, it is only about the particular issue of subject > matter, namely "Vimshottari Dasa", the said person is referred to. He > does have many other subject matters to his credit, not to mention > them. > > > > With thanks and warm regards, > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.) > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based) > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006 > > Cell: 99443-07025 > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > tw853 <tw853@> > > @gro ups.com > > Saturday, October 25, 2008 6:32:36 AM > > Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > Discussion is supposed to be on the issue not on the person. > > > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > Of course, it is only "Dr.Kar's Dream Theory" and none other's. > > > It is not an absolute necessity for anyone to appreciate or > applaud > > the great researcher's own ideas, that too, not when he is no more. > > > Nobody existing on this planet knows about Parashara's > originality > > and individuality in this regard. > > > But it is a fact that we know about, at least, one person on this > earth > > > who existed in the recent past who could think about it and give > an > > idea. > > > > > > With thanks and warm regards, > > > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.) > > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor > > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based) > > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006 > > > Cell: 99443-07025 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@ ..> > > > @gro ups.com > > > Cc: Kanak Bosmia <loger@ ...>; Mr.A.R.Raichur > <raichurar@ ..> > > > Friday, October 24, 2008 7:58:25 PM > > > Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > > > > Dear Tin Win, > > > Contrary to your "research paper",which, in > my > > opinion is not properly directed towards the effects of Mars > Dosha,but > > only towards the "existence" or otherwise of "Mars Dosha"... Evil > > effects of Mars Dosha DO EXIST/OCCUR ... even as per K.P. > > Principles,as elaborated in ASTROSECRETS & K.P., by the late eminent > > astrologer and Guruji's Student, as well as Guruji himself > originally, > > Mars Dosha as per K.P., exists only when : > > > Mars is in Sun's Star or own star,and occupying the houses > > I,II,IV,VII, VIII & XII.. > > > Mr.Subhash Ektare is very right,indeed, in > my > > humble opinion... > > > What is desireable is a comprehensive study > of > > the occurence and effects of Mars Dosha,if any manifested in the > > cases taken for analysis... > > > I urge you and Mr.Bosmia to carry out such > a > > study... > > > With best wishes, > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > tw853 <tw853 > > > > @gro ups.com > > > Friday, 24 October, 2008 6:04:09 PM > > > Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > 1. It's Dr. Kar's dream theory in his last article > in "KP & Astrology > > > Year Book 2004" pp 63-70 before he passed away. > > > > > > 2. With due respect to Dr. Kar, my personal view is that this > theory > > > does not seem like Maharshi Parashara's style of thinking as he > > > explained Vimshotarri Dasa in Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra. > > > > > > 3. The Vimshotarri Dasa system does not seem to be directly > derived > > > from any celestial cycle or event. In spite of a variety of > ingenious > > > explanations, no one knows why each dasha was allocated in > specific > > > number of years , nor even why the planets were arranged in their > > > specific order. These rules have been accepted after verifying > them > > > through experience. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > tw > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > > > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > Being his last student by correspondence coaching, Dr.Pt.KAR Ji > has > > > told me about this theory of his, which he called "My Dream > > > Theory"and had worked on it for nearly two years. > > > > You can find it in "KP & Astrology Year Book 2004". > > > > I can send you a xerox copy of it by post, if i can have your > > > address. > > > > You may send it to my mail box, if you don't mind it. > > > > > > > > With thanks and warm regards, > > > > > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.) > > > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor > > > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based) > > > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006 > > > > Cell: 99443-07025 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pankaj Lakhlani <p_lakhlani2003@ ...> > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:17:31 PM > > > > Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir; > > > > Please be kind and send a copy of the artical directly. When > > > received through the group, the attachment was not sent along > with. > > > > > > > > Thanking you in anticipation; > > > > > > > > Yours faithfully; > > > > P Lakhlani > > > > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > > Dear Gopalakrishnan, > > > > The late Mr. K.R.Kar, a very > > > eminent researcher and proloific writer on K.P., has explained > the > > > rationale of the Vimshottari Dasa...also I have not found the > > > rationale for the Vimshottari Dasa in any of the Text Books of > > > Traditional Astrology... > > > > I am sending you his entire article > > > which appeared in an Annual of the Magazine, K.P. & Astrology... > > > > I hope that you will try to digest > > > the substance of the article... > > > > In my humble opinion,the article is > > > simple and well-written and therefore,I do not expect you to ask > me > > > any further queries on this subject... > > > > With the very best wishes, > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Gopalakrishnan Subra Iyer <subragops3> > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Wednesday, 22 October, 2008 10:19:47 AM > > > > Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Learned members of this group, > > > > > > > > I have a very basic question regarding the Vimshottari Dasa. > What > > > is the rationale for giving 6 years to Sun, 10 years to moon, 7 > years > > > to Mars etc...? I'm sure there must be a valid reason for this > type > > > of allotment of different time frame to the nine planets. > > > > > > > > Please enlighten me with your thoughts. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > S.Gopalakrishnan > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click > > > here > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 27, 2008 Dear Members and Learned Gurujis, I totally agree with Dr. Luther Rath. Members are wise enough to choose any theory which gives him accuracy in prediction. However if any member wants to prove superiority and/or accuracy of any perticular theory he is free to analyze few charts and present his findings to the forum for discussion. As regards second issue of Mars Dosha is concerned, I have put forth my views on the Article in the file section. Stalwaerts like A.R.Raichur, Sunil Gondhalekar and L.Y.R. Lajmi have supported my views. If Mars Dosha does not exist as per KP, then what was the necessecity of the analysis and the Article? And from where those "so called" 11 rules have come from? Dr. Luther Rath, the time and energy spent is to clear the confusions not increasing it. Any way as suggested by Dr. Luther Rath, I am leaving this thread for members to arrive at their own conclusion. Regards, Subhash Ektare Luther Rath <rathluther Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 10:19:36 PMRe: Re: Vimshottari dasa Respected Gurujis, I think we are on the way of individualising the asience of astrology with out considering the accuracy in prediction. Parasara then KSK the DR. Kar and then others, I mean to say, traditional propounded by the sages, the stellar and sub theory propounded by KSK, the sub-sub theory propounded by Dr. Kar followed by sub-sub-sub theories the sub-sub-sub- sub- +++ theories and so on. I think we should honour all who have made an attempt to research and find out the more accurate methods. With out critising the individuals and the theories we have to change aour attitude. I would rather suggest Sri Mahan Kumarji to take at least one horoscope and predict a paricular event in the life of the native. I would request him to predict according to traditional systen, according to KSK Stellar System and also according to Dr. Kar's Sub-Sub theory seperately. One has to find out if the three syatems give the same result, which one is easier and which one is accurate. All three predictions are to be done by the same person only ao that the knoledge, the proficiency the idea the thout process would not differ in prediction. Its simply futile to ponder in the dark. The discussions should be productive and result oriented. I may not be mis understand. The other issue is 'Mars Dosha" It is also gowing in a wrong way. We have to realise the waste of time and energy in increasing confussions. With regards. Dr. Luther Rath. Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrology@ >@gro ups.comSaturday, October 25, 2008 10:51:54 PMRe: Re: Vimshottari dasa Dear Tin Win Sir,It seems that you are not for any of Dr.KAR's ideas. It's okay. Let it be my piece of cake. I consider Dr.KAR's approach simpler than that of KSK in some respects, though the former has taken a deeper step, of course, based on the latter's.Nevertheless, I don't expect any approach to be absolutely consistent, nor do I claim Dr.Kar's is.I admire his findings on the ground that he, at this age and living in a remote village, without the use of any modern gadgets like computers, but for a 10-digit ordinary calculator, can do research to such an extent.Who else other than Dr.KAR, do you think, can have the guts to say: "KSK's Sublord Theory is like an old model car of 1920s, while my SubSub Theory is like the one of modern technology of today." This, he has written in his letter to me ( in 2002).These words are not to be mistaken in any sense as humiliating KP or anything like that. No, not at all. These strong words only reveal the confidence he had in his own approach. It is quite natural that anyone who has put in so much study and experiment would certainly boast of the results when it really works for him. We may not get correctly sometimes.May be that is because we are not able to get to the core of his teachings. Most of us are just used to saying very easily - 'This does not work, that does not work.." and so on. This kind of thinking will be good only when we ourselves can come out with a better solution for the problems we see in other's findings. Until then, it is better to be convinced with an idea to the extent we can accept the same. If we are not convinced really, we have to go on looking for somebody else to feed us in a better way. Let us all take it easy.With thanks and warm regards,MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English TutorAdvanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006Cell: 99443-07025 tw853 <tw853 >@gro ups.comSaturday, October 25, 2008 4:11:15 PM Re: Vimshottari dasa Dear Mohan Kumar Ragunathan,Is his approach is simple?Is his approach is consistent without exceptions?Thanks and regards,tw@gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote:>> Of course again, it is only about the particular issue of subject matter, namely "Vimshottari Dasa", the said person is referred to. He does have many other subject matters to his credit, not to mention them.> > With thanks and warm regards,> > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> Cell: 99443-07025> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> tw853 <tw853> @gro ups.com> Saturday, October 25, 2008 6:32:36 AM> Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > Discussion is supposed to be on the issue not on the person.> > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan> <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Friends, > > Of course, it is only "Dr.Kar's Dream Theory" and none other's. > > It is not an absolute necessity for anyone to appreciate or applaud> the great researcher's own ideas, that too, not when he is no more.> > Nobody existing on this planet knows about Parashara's originality> and individuality in this regard. > > But it is a fact that we know about, at least, one person on this earth> > who existed in the recent past who could think about it and give an> idea.> > > > With thanks and warm regards,> > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> > Cell: 99443-07025> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@ ..>> > @gro ups.com> > Cc: Kanak Bosmia <loger@ ...>; Mr.A.R.Raichur <raichurar@ ..>> > Friday, October 24, 2008 7:58:25 PM> > Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > Dear Tin Win,> > Contrary to your "research paper",which, in my> opinion is not properly directed towards the effects of Mars Dosha,but> only towards the "existence" or otherwise of "Mars Dosha"... Evil> effects of Mars Dosha DO EXIST/OCCUR ... even as per K.P.> Principles,as elaborated in ASTROSECRETS & K.P., by the late eminent> astrologer and Guruji's Student, as well as Guruji himself originally,> Mars Dosha as per K.P., exists only when :> > Mars is in Sun's Star or own star,and occupying the houses> I,II,IV,VII, VIII & XII..> > Mr.Subhash Ektare is very right,indeed, in my> humble opinion...> > What is desireable is a comprehensive study of> the occurence and effects of Mars Dosha,if any manifested in the> cases taken for analysis...> > I urge you and Mr.Bosmia to carry out such a> study...> > With best wishes,> > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > tw853 <tw853 >> > @gro ups.com> > Friday, 24 October, 2008 6:04:09 PM> > Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > 1. It's Dr. Kar's dream theory in his last article in "KP & Astrology > > Year Book 2004" pp 63-70 before he passed away.> > > > 2. With due respect to Dr. Kar, my personal view is that this theory > > does not seem like Maharshi Parashara's style of thinking as he > > explained Vimshotarri Dasa in Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra. > > > > 3. The Vimshotarri Dasa system does not seem to be directly derived > > from any celestial cycle or event. In spite of a variety of ingenious > > explanations, no one knows why each dasha was allocated in specific > > number of years , nor even why the planets were arranged in their > > specific order. These rules have been accepted after verifying them > > through experience.> > > > Regards,> > > > tw> > > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sir,> > > Being his last student by correspondence coaching, Dr.Pt.KAR Ji has > > told me about this theory of his, which he called "My Dream > > Theory"and had worked on it for nearly two years.> > > You can find it in "KP & Astrology Year Book 2004".> > > I can send you a xerox copy of it by post, if i can have your > > address.> > > You may send it to my mail box, if you don't mind it.> > > > > > With thanks and warm regards,> > > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> > > Cell: 99443-07025> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pankaj Lakhlani <p_lakhlani2003@ ...>> > > @gro ups.com> > > Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:17:31 PM> > > Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > > Sir;> > > Please be kind and send a copy of the artical directly. When > > received through the group, the attachment was not sent along with.> > > > > > Thanking you in anticipation;> > > > > > Yours faithfully;> > > P Lakhlani> > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > > Dear Gopalakrishnan,> > > The late Mr. K.R.Kar, a very > > eminent researcher and proloific writer on K.P., has explained the > > rationale of the Vimshottari Dasa...also I have not found the > > rationale for the Vimshottari Dasa in any of the Text Books of > > Traditional Astrology...> > > I am sending you his entire article > > which appeared in an Annual of the Magazine, K.P. & Astrology...> > > I hope that you will try to digest > > the substance of the article...> > > In my humble opinion,the article is > > simple and well-written and therefore,I do not expect you to ask me > > any further queries on this subject...> > > With the very best wishes,> > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > Gopalakrishnan Subra Iyer <subragops3>> > > @gro ups.com> > > Wednesday, 22 October, 2008 10:19:47 AM> > > Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > > Dear Learned members of this group,> > > > > > I have a very basic question regarding the Vimshottari Dasa. What > > is the rationale for giving 6 years to Sun, 10 years to moon, 7 years > > to Mars etc...? I'm sure there must be a valid reason for this type > > of allotment of different time frame to the nine planets.> > > > > > Please enlighten me with your thoughts.> > > > > > Regards> > > S.Gopalakrishnan > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click > > here> > >> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.> >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 28, 2008 Dear Sir, I too coincide with your opiniion. which is expressed very nicely.with best regards, VSN. MurthyLuther Rath <rathluther Sent: Monday, 27 October, 2008 10:49:36 AMRe: Re: Vimshottari dasa Respected Gurujis, I think we are on the way of individualising the asience of astrology with out considering the accuracy in prediction. Parasara then KSK the DR. Kar and then others, I mean to say, traditional propounded by the sages, the stellar and sub theory propounded by KSK, the sub-sub theory propounded by Dr. Kar followed by sub-sub-sub theories the sub-sub-sub- sub- +++ theories and so on. I think we should honour all who have made an attempt to research and find out the more accurate methods. With out critising the individuals and the theories we have to change aour attitude. I would rather suggest Sri Mahan Kumarji to take at least one horoscope and predict a paricular event in the life of the native. I would request him to predict according to traditional systen, according to KSK Stellar System and also according to Dr. Kar's Sub-Sub theory seperately. One has to find out if the three syatems give the same result, which one is easier and which one is accurate. All three predictions are to be done by the same person only ao that the knoledge, the proficiency the idea the thout process would not differ in prediction. Its simply futile to ponder in the dark. The discussions should be productive and result oriented. I may not be mis understand. The other issue is 'Mars Dosha" It is also gowing in a wrong way. We have to realise the waste of time and energy in increasing confussions. With regards. Dr. Luther Rath. Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrology@ >@gro ups.comSaturday, October 25, 2008 10:51:54 PMRe: Re: Vimshottari dasa Dear Tin Win Sir,It seems that you are not for any of Dr.KAR's ideas. It's okay. Let it be my piece of cake. I consider Dr.KAR's approach simpler than that of KSK in some respects, though the former has taken a deeper step, of course, based on the latter's.Nevertheless, I don't expect any approach to be absolutely consistent, nor do I claim Dr.Kar's is.I admire his findings on the ground that he, at this age and living in a remote village, without the use of any modern gadgets like computers, but for a 10-digit ordinary calculator, can do research to such an extent.Who else other than Dr.KAR, do you think, can have the guts to say: "KSK's Sublord Theory is like an old model car of 1920s, while my SubSub Theory is like the one of modern technology of today." This, he has written in his letter to me ( in 2002).These words are not to be mistaken in any sense as humiliating KP or anything like that. No, not at all. These strong words only reveal the confidence he had in his own approach. It is quite natural that anyone who has put in so much study and experiment would certainly boast of the results when it really works for him. We may not get correctly sometimes.May be that is because we are not able to get to the core of his teachings. Most of us are just used to saying very easily - 'This does not work, that does not work.." and so on. This kind of thinking will be good only when we ourselves can come out with a better solution for the problems we see in other's findings. Until then, it is better to be convinced with an idea to the extent we can accept the same. If we are not convinced really, we have to go on looking for somebody else to feed us in a better way. Let us all take it easy.With thanks and warm regards,MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English TutorAdvanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006Cell: 99443-07025 tw853 <tw853 >@gro ups.comSaturday, October 25, 2008 4:11:15 PM Re: Vimshottari dasa Dear Mohan Kumar Ragunathan,Is his approach is simple?Is his approach is consistent without exceptions?Thanks and regards,tw@gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote:>> Of course again, it is only about the particular issue of subject matter, namely "Vimshottari Dasa", the said person is referred to. He does have many other subject matters to his credit, not to mention them.> > With thanks and warm regards,> > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> Cell: 99443-07025> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> tw853 <tw853> @gro ups.com> Saturday, October 25, 2008 6:32:36 AM> Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > Discussion is supposed to be on the issue not on the person.> > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan> <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Friends, > > Of course, it is only "Dr.Kar's Dream Theory" and none other's. > > It is not an absolute necessity for anyone to appreciate or applaud> the great researcher's own ideas, that too, not when he is no more.> > Nobody existing on this planet knows about Parashara's originality> and individuality in this regard. > > But it is a fact that we know about, at least, one person on this earth> > who existed in the recent past who could think about it and give an> idea.> > > > With thanks and warm regards,> > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> > Cell: 99443-07025> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@ ..>> > @gro ups.com> > Cc: Kanak Bosmia <loger@ ...>; Mr.A.R.Raichur <raichurar@ ..>> > Friday, October 24, 2008 7:58:25 PM> > Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > Dear Tin Win,> > Contrary to your "research paper",which, in my> opinion is not properly directed towards the effects of Mars Dosha,but> only towards the "existence" or otherwise of "Mars Dosha"... Evil> effects of Mars Dosha DO EXIST/OCCUR ... even as per K.P.> Principles,as elaborated in ASTROSECRETS & K.P., by the late eminent> astrologer and Guruji's Student, as well as Guruji himself originally,> Mars Dosha as per K.P., exists only when :> > Mars is in Sun's Star or own star,and occupying the houses> I,II,IV,VII, VIII & XII..> > Mr.Subhash Ektare is very right,indeed, in my> humble opinion...> > What is desireable is a comprehensive study of> the occurence and effects of Mars Dosha,if any manifested in the> cases taken for analysis...> > I urge you and Mr.Bosmia to carry out such a> study...> > With best wishes,> > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > tw853 <tw853 >> > @gro ups.com> > Friday, 24 October, 2008 6:04:09 PM> > Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > 1. It's Dr. Kar's dream theory in his last article in "KP & Astrology > > Year Book 2004" pp 63-70 before he passed away.> > > > 2. With due respect to Dr. Kar, my personal view is that this theory > > does not seem like Maharshi Parashara's style of thinking as he > > explained Vimshotarri Dasa in Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra. > > > > 3. The Vimshotarri Dasa system does not seem to be directly derived > > from any celestial cycle or event. In spite of a variety of ingenious > > explanations, no one knows why each dasha was allocated in specific > > number of years , nor even why the planets were arranged in their > > specific order. These rules have been accepted after verifying them > > through experience.> > > > Regards,> > > > tw> > > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sir,> > > Being his last student by correspondence coaching, Dr.Pt.KAR Ji has > > told me about this theory of his, which he called "My Dream > > Theory"and had worked on it for nearly two years.> > > You can find it in "KP & Astrology Year Book 2004".> > > I can send you a xerox copy of it by post, if i can have your > > address.> > > You may send it to my mail box, if you don't mind it.> > > > > > With thanks and warm regards,> > > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> > > Cell: 99443-07025> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pankaj Lakhlani <p_lakhlani2003@ ...>> > > @gro ups.com> > > Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:17:31 PM> > > Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > > Sir;> > > Please be kind and send a copy of the artical directly. When > > received through the group, the attachment was not sent along with.> > > > > > Thanking you in anticipation;> > > > > > Yours faithfully;> > > P Lakhlani> > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > > Dear Gopalakrishnan,> > > The late Mr. K.R.Kar, a very > > eminent researcher and proloific writer on K.P., has explained the > > rationale of the Vimshottari Dasa...also I have not found the > > rationale for the Vimshottari Dasa in any of the Text Books of > > Traditional Astrology...> > > I am sending you his entire article > > which appeared in an Annual of the Magazine, K.P. & Astrology...> > > I hope that you will try to digest > > the substance of the article...> > > In my humble opinion,the article is > > simple and well-written and therefore,I do not expect you to ask me > > any further queries on this subject...> > > With the very best wishes,> > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > Gopalakrishnan Subra Iyer <subragops3>> > > @gro ups.com> > > Wednesday, 22 October, 2008 10:19:47 AM> > > Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > > Dear Learned members of this group,> > > > > > I have a very basic question regarding the Vimshottari Dasa. What > > is the rationale for giving 6 years to Sun, 10 years to moon, 7 years > > to Mars etc...? I'm sure there must be a valid reason for this type > > of allotment of different time frame to the nine planets.> > > > > > Please enlighten me with your thoughts.> > > > > > Regards> > > S.Gopalakrishnan > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click > > here> > >> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.> >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 28, 2008 Dear Friend, Just about Dr.KAR's idea on allocation of Years under Vimshottari Dasa system, it is not simple and straight forward like Sage Prashara's style and the same idea is not applied consistently to all planets. Regarding the so-called new car, it is said not to see the drivers after his death in his regularly contributing KP & Astrlogy Year Book. Regards, tw , Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrology wrote: > > Dear Friend, > I just mentioned about Dr.KAR's idea on allocation of Years under Vimshottari Dasa system. > I do admire his new findings or his creativity just for the sake of it. Whether they are working well or not is a different matter of issue. > I got tensed up on your questioning about the efficacy of his approach. This question should actually be sent to the research group under " Testing of New > Theories " . > Now that I have my own concept of analysing a chart, and as Dr.KAR himself is no more, I do not totally rely on his theories alone. However, I have borrowed some of his ideas and am making use of it, especially the idea of his on who are the significators of 12 Houses. > It is up to one's option to go for his approach or not. > Thanks anyway, friend. > > With thanks and warm regards, > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.) > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based) > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006 > Cell: 99443-07025 > > > > > ________________________________ > tw853 <tw853 > > Monday, October 27, 2008 7:30:43 AM > Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > Dear Friend, > > As you're not discussing the issue, there is no reason to continue > this discussion. > > The simple question: if it is simple, is the same idea is applied to > all planets? > > It will be helpful, if anything more is available in addition to the > list in the File section under: > > DR. KAR'S SUB-SUB THEORY ARTICLES.doc > DR. KAR'S SUB-SUB THOERY ARTICLES > > Thanks and regards, > > tw > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Tin Win Sir, > > It seems that you are not for any of Dr.KAR's ideas. It's okay. Let > it be my piece of cake. > > I consider Dr.KAR's approach simpler than that of KSK in some > respects, though the former has taken a deeper step, of course, based > on the latter's. > > Nevertheless, I don't expect any approach to be absolutely > consistent, nor do I claim Dr.Kar's is. > > I admire his findings on the ground that he, at this age and living > in a remote village, without the use of any modern gadgets like > computers, but for a 10-digit ordinary calculator, can do research to > such an extent. > > Who else other than Dr.KAR, do you think, can have the guts to > say: " KSK's Sublord Theory is like an old model car of 1920s, while > my SubSub Theory is like the one of modern technology of today. " > This, he has written in his letter to me ( in 2002). > > These words are not to be mistaken in any sense as humiliating KP > or anything like that. No, not at all. These strong words only reveal > the confidence he had in his own approach. It is quite natural that > anyone who has put in so much study and experiment would certainly > boast of the results when it really works for him. > > We may not get correctly sometimes.May be that is because we are > not able to get to the core of his teachings. > > Most of us are just used to saying very easily - 'This does not > work, that does not work.. " and so on. This kind of thinking will be > good only when we ourselves can come out with a better solution for > the problems we see in other's findings. > > Until then, it is better to be convinced with an idea to the extent > we can accept the same. If we are not convinced really, we have to go > on looking for somebody else to feed us in a better way. > > Let us all take it easy. > > > > With thanks and warm regards, > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.) > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based) > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006 > > Cell: 99443-07025 > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > tw853 <tw853@> > > @gro ups.com > > Saturday, October 25, 2008 4:11:15 PM > > Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > Dear Mohan Kumar Ragunathan, > > > > Is his approach is simple? > > Is his approach is consistent without exceptions? > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > tw > > > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Of course again, it is only about the particular issue of subject > > matter, namely " Vimshottari Dasa " , the said person is referred to. > He > > does have many other subject matters to his credit, not to mention > > them. > > > > > > With thanks and warm regards, > > > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.) > > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor > > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based) > > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006 > > > Cell: 99443-07025 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > tw853 <tw853@> > > > @gro ups.com > > > Saturday, October 25, 2008 6:32:36 AM > > > Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > > > > Discussion is supposed to be on the issue not on the person. > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > > > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > Of course, it is only " Dr.Kar's Dream Theory " and none other's. > > > > It is not an absolute necessity for anyone to appreciate or > > applaud > > > the great researcher's own ideas, that too, not when he is no > more. > > > > Nobody existing on this planet knows about Parashara's > > originality > > > and individuality in this regard. > > > > But it is a fact that we know about, at least, one person on > this > > earth > > > > who existed in the recent past who could think about it and > give > > an > > > idea. > > > > > > > > With thanks and warm regards, > > > > > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.) > > > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor > > > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based) > > > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006 > > > > Cell: 99443-07025 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@ ..> > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Cc: Kanak Bosmia <loger@ ...>; Mr.A.R.Raichur > > <raichurar@ ..> > > > > Friday, October 24, 2008 7:58:25 PM > > > > Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tin Win, > > > > Contrary to your " research paper " ,which, > in > > my > > > opinion is not properly directed towards the effects of Mars > > Dosha,but > > > only towards the " existence " or otherwise of " Mars Dosha " ... Evil > > > effects of Mars Dosha DO EXIST/OCCUR ... even as per K.P. > > > Principles,as elaborated in ASTROSECRETS & K.P., by the late > eminent > > > astrologer and Guruji's Student, as well as Guruji himself > > originally, > > > Mars Dosha as per K.P., exists only when : > > > > Mars is in Sun's Star or own star,and occupying the houses > > > I,II,IV,VII, VIII & XII.. > > > > Mr.Subhash Ektare is very right,indeed, > in > > my > > > humble opinion... > > > > What is desireable is a comprehensive > study > > of > > > the occurence and effects of Mars Dosha,if any manifested in the > > > cases taken for analysis... > > > > I urge you and Mr.Bosmia to carry out > such > > a > > > study... > > > > With best wishes, > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > tw853 <tw853 > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Friday, 24 October, 2008 6:04:09 PM > > > > Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > 1. It's Dr. Kar's dream theory in his last article > > in " KP & Astrology > > > > Year Book 2004 " pp 63-70 before he passed away. > > > > > > > > 2. With due respect to Dr. Kar, my personal view is that this > > theory > > > > does not seem like Maharshi Parashara's style of thinking as he > > > > explained Vimshotarri Dasa in Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra. > > > > > > > > 3. The Vimshotarri Dasa system does not seem to be directly > > derived > > > > from any celestial cycle or event. In spite of a variety of > > ingenious > > > > explanations, no one knows why each dasha was allocated in > > specific > > > > number of years , nor even why the planets were arranged in > their > > > > specific order. These rules have been accepted after verifying > > them > > > > through experience. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > > > > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > Being his last student by correspondence coaching, Dr.Pt.KAR > Ji > > has > > > > told me about this theory of his, which he called " My Dream > > > > Theory " and had worked on it for nearly two years. > > > > > You can find it in " KP & Astrology Year Book 2004 " . > > > > > I can send you a xerox copy of it by post, if i can have your > > > > address. > > > > > You may send it to my mail box, if you don't mind it. > > > > > > > > > > With thanks and warm regards, > > > > > > > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.) > > > > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor > > > > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based) > > > > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006 > > > > > Cell: 99443-07025 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pankaj Lakhlani <p_lakhlani2003@ ...> > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:17:31 PM > > > > > Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir; > > > > > Please be kind and send a copy of the artical directly. When > > > > received through the group, the attachment was not sent along > > with. > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you in anticipation; > > > > > > > > > > Yours faithfully; > > > > > P Lakhlani > > > > > > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > > > Dear Gopalakrishnan, > > > > > The late Mr. K.R.Kar, a very > > > > eminent researcher and proloific writer on K.P., has explained > > the > > > > rationale of the Vimshottari Dasa...also I have not found the > > > > rationale for the Vimshottari Dasa in any of the Text Books of > > > > Traditional Astrology... > > > > > I am sending you his entire article > > > > which appeared in an Annual of the Magazine, K.P. & Astrology... > > > > > I hope that you will try to digest > > > > the substance of the article... > > > > > In my humble opinion,the article is > > > > simple and well-written and therefore,I do not expect you to > ask > > me > > > > any further queries on this subject... > > > > > With the very best wishes, > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > Gopalakrishnan Subra Iyer <subragops3> > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Wednesday, 22 October, 2008 10:19:47 AM > > > > > Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Learned members of this group, > > > > > > > > > > I have a very basic question regarding the Vimshottari Dasa. > > What > > > > is the rationale for giving 6 years to Sun, 10 years to moon, 7 > > years > > > > to Mars etc...? I'm sure there must be a valid reason for this > > type > > > > of allotment of different time frame to the nine planets. > > > > > > > > > > Please enlighten me with your thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > S.Gopalakrishnan > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. > Click > > > > here > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 28, 2008 Dear friends Vaksiddhi and running dasha period of astrologer too will play key role accurate predictrions in so many cases. I was using Local Panchanga/almanac in 1984-86, those days also i have experienced accurate predictions when i was very amature, ofcourse even now also i am a student of astrology. For me KP original ayanamsha has given accurate dasha period events in so many cases , now almost all are using KPNA and now i am little confussion. Sahhasra Saagara--- On Mon, 27/10/08, Subhash Ektare <subhash_ektare wrote: Subhash Ektare <subhash_ektareRe: Re: Vimshottari dasa Date: Monday, 27 October, 2008, 11:20 PM Dear Members and Learned Gurujis, I totally agree with Dr. Luther Rath. Members are wise enough to choose any theory which gives him accuracy in prediction. However if any member wants to prove superiority and/or accuracy of any perticular theory he is free to analyze few charts and present his findings to the forum for discussion. As regards second issue of Mars Dosha is concerned, I have put forth my views on the Article in the file section. Stalwaerts like A.R.Raichur, Sunil Gondhalekar and L.Y.R. Lajmi have supported my views. If Mars Dosha does not exist as per KP, then what was the necessecity of the analysis and the Article? And from where those "so called" 11 rules have come from? Dr. Luther Rath, the time and energy spent is to clear the confusions not increasing it. Any way as suggested by Dr. Luther Rath, I am leaving this thread for members to arrive at their own conclusion. Regards, Subhash Ektare Luther Rath <rathluther >@gro ups.comSunday, October 26, 2008 10:19:36 PMRe: Re: Vimshottari dasa Respected Gurujis, I think we are on the way of individualising the asience of astrology with out considering the accuracy in prediction. Parasara then KSK the DR. Kar and then others, I mean to say, traditional propounded by the sages, the stellar and sub theory propounded by KSK, the sub-sub theory propounded by Dr. Kar followed by sub-sub-sub theories the sub-sub-sub- sub- +++ theories and so on. I think we should honour all who have made an attempt to research and find out the more accurate methods. With out critising the individuals and the theories we have to change aour attitude. I would rather suggest Sri Mahan Kumarji to take at least one horoscope and predict a paricular event in the life of the native. I would request him to predict according to traditional systen, according to KSK Stellar System and also according to Dr. Kar's Sub-Sub theory seperately. One has to find out if the three syatems give the same result, which one is easier and which one is accurate. All three predictions are to be done by the same person only ao that the knoledge, the proficiency the idea the thout process would not differ in prediction. Its simply futile to ponder in the dark. The discussions should be productive and result oriented. I may not be mis understand. The other issue is 'Mars Dosha" It is also gowing in a wrong way. We have to realise the waste of time and energy in increasing confussions. With regards. Dr. Luther Rath. Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrology@ >@gro ups.comSaturday, October 25, 2008 10:51:54 PMRe: Re: Vimshottari dasa Dear Tin Win Sir,It seems that you are not for any of Dr.KAR's ideas. It's okay. Let it be my piece of cake. I consider Dr.KAR's approach simpler than that of KSK in some respects, though the former has taken a deeper step, of course, based on the latter's.Nevertheless, I don't expect any approach to be absolutely consistent, nor do I claim Dr.Kar's is.I admire his findings on the ground that he, at this age and living in a remote village, without the use of any modern gadgets like computers, but for a 10-digit ordinary calculator, can do research to such an extent.Who else other than Dr.KAR, do you think, can have the guts to say: "KSK's Sublord Theory is like an old model car of 1920s, while my SubSub Theory is like the one of modern technology of today." This, he has written in his letter to me ( in 2002).These words are not to be mistaken in any sense as humiliating KP or anything like that. No, not at all. These strong words only reveal the confidence he had in his own approach. It is quite natural that anyone who has put in so much study and experiment would certainly boast of the results when it really works for him. We may not get correctly sometimes.May be that is because we are not able to get to the core of his teachings. Most of us are just used to saying very easily - 'This does not work, that does not work.." and so on. This kind of thinking will be good only when we ourselves can come out with a better solution for the problems we see in other's findings. Until then, it is better to be convinced with an idea to the extent we can accept the same. If we are not convinced really, we have to go on looking for somebody else to feed us in a better way. Let us all take it easy.With thanks and warm regards,MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English TutorAdvanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006Cell: 99443-07025 tw853 <tw853 >@gro ups.comSaturday, October 25, 2008 4:11:15 PM Re: Vimshottari dasa Dear Mohan Kumar Ragunathan,Is his approach is simple?Is his approach is consistent without exceptions?Thanks and regards,tw@gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote:>> Of course again, it is only about the particular issue of subject matter, namely "Vimshottari Dasa", the said person is referred to. He does have many other subject matters to his credit, not to mention them.> > With thanks and warm regards,> > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> Cell: 99443-07025> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> tw853 <tw853> @gro ups.com> Saturday, October 25, 2008 6:32:36 AM> Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > Discussion is supposed to be on the issue not on the person.> > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan> <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Friends, > > Of course, it is only "Dr.Kar's Dream Theory" and none other's. > > It is not an absolute necessity for anyone to appreciate or applaud> the great researcher's own ideas, that too, not when he is no more.> > Nobody existing on this planet knows about Parashara's originality> and individuality in this regard. > > But it is a fact that we know about, at least, one person on this earth> > who existed in the recent past who could think about it and give an> idea.> > > > With thanks and warm regards,> > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> > Cell: 99443-07025> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@ ..>> > @gro ups.com> > Cc: Kanak Bosmia <loger@ ...>; Mr.A.R.Raichur <raichurar@ ..>> > Friday, October 24, 2008 7:58:25 PM> > Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > Dear Tin Win,> > Contrary to your "research paper",which, in my> opinion is not properly directed towards the effects of Mars Dosha,but> only towards the "existence" or otherwise of "Mars Dosha"... Evil> effects of Mars Dosha DO EXIST/OCCUR ... even as per K.P.> Principles,as elaborated in ASTROSECRETS & K.P., by the late eminent> astrologer and Guruji's Student, as well as Guruji himself originally,> Mars Dosha as per K.P., exists only when :> > Mars is in Sun's Star or own star,and occupying the houses> I,II,IV,VII, VIII & XII..> > Mr.Subhash Ektare is very right,indeed, in my> humble opinion...> > What is desireable is a comprehensive study of> the occurence and effects of Mars Dosha,if any manifested in the> cases taken for analysis...> > I urge you and Mr.Bosmia to carry out such a> study...> > With best wishes,> > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > tw853 <tw853 >> > @gro ups.com> > Friday, 24 October, 2008 6:04:09 PM> > Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > 1. It's Dr. Kar's dream theory in his last article in "KP & Astrology > > Year Book 2004" pp 63-70 before he passed away.> > > > 2. With due respect to Dr. Kar, my personal view is that this theory > > does not seem like Maharshi Parashara's style of thinking as he > > explained Vimshotarri Dasa in Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra. > > > > 3. The Vimshotarri Dasa system does not seem to be directly derived > > from any celestial cycle or event. In spite of a variety of ingenious > > explanations, no one knows why each dasha was allocated in specific > > number of years , nor even why the planets were arranged in their > > specific order. These rules have been accepted after verifying them > > through experience.> > > > Regards,> > > > tw> > > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sir,> > > Being his last student by correspondence coaching, Dr.Pt.KAR Ji has > > told me about this theory of his, which he called "My Dream > > Theory"and had worked on it for nearly two years.> > > You can find it in "KP & Astrology Year Book 2004".> > > I can send you a xerox copy of it by post, if i can have your > > address.> > > You may send it to my mail box, if you don't mind it.> > > > > > With thanks and warm regards,> > > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> > > Cell: 99443-07025> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pankaj Lakhlani <p_lakhlani2003@ ...>> > > @gro ups.com> > > Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:17:31 PM> > > Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > > Sir;> > > Please be kind and send a copy of the artical directly. When > > received through the group, the attachment was not sent along with.> > > > > > Thanking you in anticipation;> > > > > > Yours faithfully;> > > P Lakhlani> > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > > Dear Gopalakrishnan,> > > The late Mr. K.R.Kar, a very > > eminent researcher and proloific writer on K.P., has explained the > > rationale of the Vimshottari Dasa...also I have not found the > > rationale for the Vimshottari Dasa in any of the Text Books of > > Traditional Astrology...> > > I am sending you his entire article > > which appeared in an Annual of the Magazine, K.P. & Astrology...> > > I hope that you will try to digest > > the substance of the article...> > > In my humble opinion,the article is > > simple and well-written and therefore,I do not expect you to ask me > > any further queries on this subject...> > > With the very best wishes,> > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > Gopalakrishnan Subra Iyer <subragops3>> > > @gro ups.com> > > Wednesday, 22 October, 2008 10:19:47 AM> > > Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > > Dear Learned members of this group,> > > > > > I have a very basic question regarding the Vimshottari Dasa. What > > is the rationale for giving 6 years to Sun, 10 years to moon, 7 years > > to Mars etc...? I'm sure there must be a valid reason for this type > > of allotment of different time frame to the nine planets.> > > > > > Please enlighten me with your thoughts.> > > > > > Regards> > > S.Gopalakrishnan > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click > > here> > >> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.> >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 29, 2008 Dear Sahhasra Saagara, 1. That may be true. Shri Kuppu Ganapathi used to use good time and Shri Raichur is wondering how does he choose such good time. Dr. B.V. Raman became a world known astrologer by his 2nd world war predictions. Many astrologers are successful for certain periods. 2. Regarding Ayanamsa, there is no confusion at all and it isn't a big deal. Just to stick the one which is mostly fit to your prediction techniques. How to check has been already discussed. For instance, Raman Ayanamsa has been severely criticized by some Vedic astrologers in favor of Lahiri but he made the world known predictions using his own ayanamsa. Regards, tw , Sagar S <ssagar86 wrote: > > Dear friends > Vaksiddhi and running dasha period of astrologer too will play key role accurate predictrions in so many cases. > I was using Local Panchanga/almanac in 1984-86, those days also i have experienced accurate predictions when i was very amature, ofcourse even now also i am a student of astrology. > For me KP original ayanamsha has given accurate dasha period events in so many cases , now almost all are using KPNA and now i am little confussion. > Sahhasra Saagara > > --- On Mon, 27/10/08, Subhash Ektare <subhash_ektare wrote: > > Subhash Ektare <subhash_ektare > Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa > > Monday, 27 October, 2008, 11:20 PM > > Dear Members and Learned Gurujis, > Â > I totally agree with Dr. Luther Rath. Members are wise enough to choose > any theory which gives him accuracy in prediction. However if any member > wants to prove superiority and/or accuracy of any perticular theory he is free > to analyze few charts and present his findings to the forum for discussion. > Â > As regards second issue of Mars Dosha is concerned, I have put forth my > views on the Article in the file section. Stalwaerts like A.R.Raichur, Sunil > Gondhalekar and L.Y.R. Lajmi have supported my views. If Mars Dosha > does not exist as per KP, then what was the necessecity of the analysis and > the Article? And from where those " so called " 11 rules have come from? > Â > Dr. Luther Rath, the time and energy spent is to clear the confusions not > increasing it. > Â > Any way as suggested by Dr. Luther Rath, I am leaving this thread for > members to arrive at their own conclusion. > Â > Regards, > Subhash Ektare > > > > > > Luther Rath <rathluther > > @gro ups.com > Sunday, October 26, 2008 10:19:36 PM > Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > Respected Gurujis, > I think we are on the way of individualising the asience of astrology with out considering the accuracy in prediction. Parasara then KSK the DR. Kar and then others, I mean to say, traditional propounded by the sages, the stellar and sub theory propounded by KSK, the sub-sub theory propounded by Dr. Kar followed by sub-sub-sub theories the sub-sub-sub- sub- +++ theories and so on. I think we should honour all who have made an attempt to research and find out the more accurate methods. With out critising the individuals and the theories we have to change aour attitude. I would rather suggest Sri Mahan Kumarji to take at least one horoscope and predict a paricular event in the life of the native. I would request him to predict according to traditional systen, according to KSK Stellar System and also according to Dr. Kar's Sub-Sub theory seperately. One has to find out if the three syatems give the same result, which one is easier and which one is accurate. > All three predictions are to be done by the same person only ao that the knoledge, the proficiency the idea the thout process would not differ in prediction. Its simply futile to ponder in the dark. The discussions should be productive and result oriented. I may not be mis understand. > The other issue is 'Mars Dosha " It is also gowing in a wrong way. We have to realise the waste of time and energy in increasing confussions. > With regards. > Dr. Luther Rath. > > > > > Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrology@ > > @gro ups.com > Saturday, October 25, 2008 10:51:54 PM > Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > > > Dear Tin Win Sir, > It seems that you are not for any of Dr.KAR's ideas. It's okay. Let it be my piece of cake. > I consider Dr.KAR's approach simpler than that of KSK in some respects, though the former has taken a deeper step, of course, based on the latter's. > Nevertheless, I don't expect any approach to be absolutely consistent, nor do I claim Dr.Kar's is. > I admire his findings on the ground that he, at this age and living in a remote village, without the use of any modern gadgets like computers, but for a 10-digit ordinary calculator, can do research to such an extent. > Who else other than Dr.KAR, do you think, can have the guts to say: " KSK's Sublord Theory is like an old model car of 1920s, while my SubSub Theory is like the one of modern technology of today. " This, he has written in his letter to me ( in 2002). > These words are not to be mistaken in any sense as humiliating KP or anything like that. No, not at all. These strong words only reveal the confidence he had in his own approach. It is quite natural that anyone who has put in so much study and experiment would certainly boast of the results when it really works for him. > We may not get correctly sometimes.May be that is because we are not able to get to the core of his teachings. > Most of us are just used to saying very easily - 'This does not work, that does not work.. " and so on. This kind of thinking will be good only when we ourselves can come out with a better solution for the problems we see in other's findings. > Until then, it is better to be convinced with an idea to the extent we can accept the same. If we are not convinced really, we have to go on looking for somebody else to feed us in a better way. > Let us all take it easy. > > With thanks and warm regards, > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.) > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based) > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006 > Cell: 99443-07025 tw853 <tw853 > > @gro ups.com > Saturday, October 25, 2008 4:11:15 PM > Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > > Dear Mohan Kumar Ragunathan, > > Is his approach is simple? > Is his approach is consistent without exceptions? > > Thanks and regards, > > tw > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote: > > > > Of course again, it is only about the particular issue of subject > matter, namely " Vimshottari Dasa " , the said person is referred to. He > does have many other subject matters to his credit, not to mention > them. > > > > With thanks and warm regards, > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.) > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based) > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006 > > Cell: 99443-07025 > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > tw853 <tw853@> > > @gro ups.com > > Saturday, October 25, 2008 6:32:36 AM > > Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > Discussion is supposed to be on the issue not on the person. > > > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > Of course, it is only " Dr.Kar's Dream Theory " and none other's. > > > It is not an absolute necessity for anyone to appreciate or > applaud > > the great researcher's own ideas, that too, not when he is no more. > > > Nobody existing on this planet knows about Parashara's > originality > > and individuality in this regard. > > > But it is a fact that we know about, at least, one person on this > earth > > > who existed in the recent past who could think about it and give > an > > idea. > > > > > > With thanks and warm regards, > > > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.) > > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor > > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based) > > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006 > > > Cell: 99443-07025 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@ ..> > > > @gro ups.com > > > Cc: Kanak Bosmia <loger@ ...>; Mr.A.R.Raichur > <raichurar@ ..> > > > Friday, October 24, 2008 7:58:25 PM > > > Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > > > > Dear Tin Win, > > > Contrary to your " research paper " ,which, in > my > > opinion is not properly directed towards the effects of Mars > Dosha,but > > only towards the " existence " or otherwise of " Mars Dosha " ... Evil > > effects of Mars Dosha DO EXIST/OCCUR ... even as per K.P. > > Principles,as elaborated in ASTROSECRETS & K.P., by the late eminent > > astrologer and Guruji's Student, as well as Guruji himself > originally, > > Mars Dosha as per K.P., exists only when : > > > Mars is in Sun's Star or own star,and occupying the houses > > I,II,IV,VII, VIII & XII.. > > > Mr.Subhash Ektare is very right,indeed, in > my > > humble opinion... > > > What is desireable is a comprehensive study > of > > the occurence and effects of Mars Dosha,if any manifested in the > > cases taken for analysis... > > > I urge you and Mr.Bosmia to carry out such > a > > study... > > > With best wishes, > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > tw853 <tw853 > > > > @gro ups.com > > > Friday, 24 October, 2008 6:04:09 PM > > > Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > 1. It's Dr. Kar's dream theory in his last article > in " KP & Astrology > > > Year Book 2004 " pp 63-70 before he passed away. > > > > > > 2. With due respect to Dr. Kar, my personal view is that this > theory > > > does not seem like Maharshi Parashara's style of thinking as he > > > explained Vimshotarri Dasa in Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra. > > > > > > 3. The Vimshotarri Dasa system does not seem to be directly > derived > > > from any celestial cycle or event. In spite of a variety of > ingenious > > > explanations, no one knows why each dasha was allocated in > specific > > > number of years , nor even why the planets were arranged in their > > > specific order. These rules have been accepted after verifying > them > > > through experience. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > tw > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > > > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > Being his last student by correspondence coaching, Dr.Pt.KAR Ji > has > > > told me about this theory of his, which he called " My Dream > > > Theory " and had worked on it for nearly two years. > > > > You can find it in " KP & Astrology Year Book 2004 " . > > > > I can send you a xerox copy of it by post, if i can have your > > > address. > > > > You may send it to my mail box, if you don't mind it. > > > > > > > > With thanks and warm regards, > > > > > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.) > > > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor > > > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based) > > > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006 > > > > Cell: 99443-07025 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pankaj Lakhlani <p_lakhlani2003@ ...> > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:17:31 PM > > > > Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir; > > > > Please be kind and send a copy of the artical directly. When > > > received through the group, the attachment was not sent along > with. > > > > > > > > Thanking you in anticipation; > > > > > > > > Yours faithfully; > > > > P Lakhlani > > > > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > > Dear Gopalakrishnan, > > > > The late Mr. K.R.Kar, a very > > > eminent researcher and proloific writer on K.P., has explained > the > > > rationale of the Vimshottari Dasa...also I have not found the > > > rationale for the Vimshottari Dasa in any of the Text Books of > > > Traditional Astrology... > > > > I am sending you his entire article > > > which appeared in an Annual of the Magazine, K.P. & Astrology... > > > > I hope that you will try to digest > > > the substance of the article... > > > > In my humble opinion,the article is > > > simple and well-written and therefore,I do not expect you to ask > me > > > any further queries on this subject... > > > > With the very best wishes, > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Gopalakrishnan Subra Iyer <subragops3> > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Wednesday, 22 October, 2008 10:19:47 AM > > > > Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Learned members of this group, > > > > > > > > I have a very basic question regarding the Vimshottari Dasa. > What > > > is the rationale for giving 6 years to Sun, 10 years to moon, 7 > years > > > to Mars etc...? I'm sure there must be a valid reason for this > type > > > of allotment of different time frame to the nine planets. > > > > > > > > Please enlighten me with your thoughts. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > S.Gopalakrishnan > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click > > > here > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 29, 2008 Dear Friend, I appreciate your observation on Dr.KAR's idea.On your statement " ...Regarding the so-called new car, it is said not to see the drivers after his death in his regularly contributing KP & Astrlogy Year Book...." , I can't get your point. Sorry.With regards,MK.tw853 <tw853 Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:36:29 PM Re: Vimshottari dasa Dear Friend, Just about Dr.KAR's idea on allocation of Years under Vimshottari Dasa system, it is not simple and straight forward like Sage Prashara's style and the same idea is not applied consistently to all planets. Regarding the so-called new car, it is said not to see the drivers after his death in his regularly contributing KP & Astrlogy Year Book. Regards, tw @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Friend, > I just mentioned about Dr.KAR's idea on allocation of Years under Vimshottari Dasa system. > I do admire his new findings or his creativity just for the sake of it. Whether they are working well or not is a different matter of issue. > I got tensed up on your questioning about the efficacy of his approach. This question should actually be sent to the research group under "Testing of New > Theories". > Now that I have my own concept of analysing a chart, and as Dr.KAR himself is no more, I do not totally rely on his theories alone. However, I have borrowed some of his ideas and am making use of it, especially the idea of his on who are the significators of 12 Houses. > It is up to one's option to go for his approach or not. > Thanks anyway, friend. > > With thanks and warm regards, > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.) > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based) > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006 > Cell: 99443-07025 > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > tw853 <tw853 > @gro ups.com > Monday, October 27, 2008 7:30:43 AM > Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > Dear Friend, > > As you're not discussing the issue, there is no reason to continue > this discussion. > > The simple question: if it is simple, is the same idea is applied to > all planets? > > It will be helpful, if anything more is available in addition to the > list in the File section under: > > DR. KAR'S SUB-SUB THEORY ARTICLES.doc > DR. KAR'S SUB-SUB THOERY ARTICLES > > Thanks and regards, > > tw > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Tin Win Sir, > > It seems that you are not for any of Dr.KAR's ideas. It's okay. Let > it be my piece of cake. > > I consider Dr.KAR's approach simpler than that of KSK in some > respects, though the former has taken a deeper step, of course, based > on the latter's. > > Nevertheless, I don't expect any approach to be absolutely > consistent, nor do I claim Dr.Kar's is. > > I admire his findings on the ground that he, at this age and living > in a remote village, without the use of any modern gadgets like > computers, but for a 10-digit ordinary calculator, can do research to > such an extent. > > Who else other than Dr.KAR, do you think, can have the guts to > say: "KSK's Sublord Theory is like an old model car of 1920s, while > my SubSub Theory is like the one of modern technology of today." > This, he has written in his letter to me ( in 2002). > > These words are not to be mistaken in any sense as humiliating KP > or anything like that. No, not at all. These strong words only reveal > the confidence he had in his own approach. It is quite natural that > anyone who has put in so much study and experiment would certainly > boast of the results when it really works for him. > > We may not get correctly sometimes.May be that is because we are > not able to get to the core of his teachings. > > Most of us are just used to saying very easily - 'This does not > work, that does not work.." and so on. This kind of thinking will be > good only when we ourselves can come out with a better solution for > the problems we see in other's findings. > > Until then, it is better to be convinced with an idea to the extent > we can accept the same. If we are not convinced really, we have to go > on looking for somebody else to feed us in a better way. > > Let us all take it easy. > > > > With thanks and warm regards, > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.) > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based) > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006 > > Cell: 99443-07025 > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > tw853 <tw853@> > > @gro ups.com > > Saturday, October 25, 2008 4:11:15 PM > > Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > Dear Mohan Kumar Ragunathan, > > > > Is his approach is simple? > > Is his approach is consistent without exceptions? > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > tw > > > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Of course again, it is only about the particular issue of subject > > matter, namely "Vimshottari Dasa", the said person is referred to. > He > > does have many other subject matters to his credit, not to mention > > them. > > > > > > With thanks and warm regards, > > > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.) > > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor > > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based) > > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006 > > > Cell: 99443-07025 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > tw853 <tw853@> > > > @gro ups.com > > > Saturday, October 25, 2008 6:32:36 AM > > > Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > > > > Discussion is supposed to be on the issue not on the person. > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > > > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > Of course, it is only "Dr.Kar's Dream Theory" and none other's. > > > > It is not an absolute necessity for anyone to appreciate or > > applaud > > > the great researcher's own ideas, that too, not when he is no > more. > > > > Nobody existing on this planet knows about Parashara's > > originality > > > and individuality in this regard. > > > > But it is a fact that we know about, at least, one person on > this > > earth > > > > who existed in the recent past who could think about it and > give > > an > > > idea. > > > > > > > > With thanks and warm regards, > > > > > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.) > > > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor > > > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based) > > > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006 > > > > Cell: 99443-07025 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@ ..> > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Cc: Kanak Bosmia <loger@ ...>; Mr.A.R.Raichur > > <raichurar@ ..> > > > > Friday, October 24, 2008 7:58:25 PM > > > > Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tin Win, > > > > Contrary to your "research paper",which, > in > > my > > > opinion is not properly directed towards the effects of Mars > > Dosha,but > > > only towards the "existence" or otherwise of "Mars Dosha"... Evil > > > effects of Mars Dosha DO EXIST/OCCUR ... even as per K.P. > > > Principles,as elaborated in ASTROSECRETS & K.P., by the late > eminent > > > astrologer and Guruji's Student, as well as Guruji himself > > originally, > > > Mars Dosha as per K.P., exists only when : > > > > Mars is in Sun's Star or own star,and occupying the houses > > > I,II,IV,VII, VIII & XII.. > > > > Mr.Subhash Ektare is very right,indeed, > in > > my > > > humble opinion... > > > > What is desireable is a comprehensive > study > > of > > > the occurence and effects of Mars Dosha,if any manifested in the > > > cases taken for analysis... > > > > I urge you and Mr.Bosmia to carry out > such > > a > > > study... > > > > With best wishes, > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > tw853 <tw853 > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Friday, 24 October, 2008 6:04:09 PM > > > > Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > 1. It's Dr. Kar's dream theory in his last article > > in "KP & Astrology > > > > Year Book 2004" pp 63-70 before he passed away. > > > > > > > > 2. With due respect to Dr. Kar, my personal view is that this > > theory > > > > does not seem like Maharshi Parashara's style of thinking as he > > > > explained Vimshotarri Dasa in Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra. > > > > > > > > 3. The Vimshotarri Dasa system does not seem to be directly > > derived > > > > from any celestial cycle or event. In spite of a variety of > > ingenious > > > > explanations, no one knows why each dasha was allocated in > > specific > > > > number of years , nor even why the planets were arranged in > their > > > > specific order. These rules have been accepted after verifying > > them > > > > through experience. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > > > > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > Being his last student by correspondence coaching, Dr.Pt.KAR > Ji > > has > > > > told me about this theory of his, which he called "My Dream > > > > Theory"and had worked on it for nearly two years. > > > > > You can find it in "KP & Astrology Year Book 2004". > > > > > I can send you a xerox copy of it by post, if i can have your > > > > address. > > > > > You may send it to my mail box, if you don't mind it. > > > > > > > > > > With thanks and warm regards, > > > > > > > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.) > > > > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor > > > > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based) > > > > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006 > > > > > Cell: 99443-07025 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pankaj Lakhlani <p_lakhlani2003@ ...> > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:17:31 PM > > > > > Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir; > > > > > Please be kind and send a copy of the artical directly. When > > > > received through the group, the attachment was not sent along > > with. > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you in anticipation; > > > > > > > > > > Yours faithfully; > > > > > P Lakhlani > > > > > > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > > > Dear Gopalakrishnan, > > > > > The late Mr. K.R.Kar, a very > > > > eminent researcher and proloific writer on K.P., has explained > > the > > > > rationale of the Vimshottari Dasa...also I have not found the > > > > rationale for the Vimshottari Dasa in any of the Text Books of > > > > Traditional Astrology... > > > > > I am sending you his entire article > > > > which appeared in an Annual of the Magazine, K.P. & Astrology... > > > > > I hope that you will try to digest > > > > the substance of the article... > > > > > In my humble opinion,the article is > > > > simple and well-written and therefore,I do not expect you to > ask > > me > > > > any further queries on this subject... > > > > > With the very best wishes, > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > Gopalakrishnan Subra Iyer <subragops3> > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Wednesday, 22 October, 2008 10:19:47 AM > > > > > Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Learned members of this group, > > > > > > > > > > I have a very basic question regarding the Vimshottari Dasa. > > What > > > > is the rationale for giving 6 years to Sun, 10 years to moon, 7 > > years > > > > to Mars etc...? I'm sure there must be a valid reason for this > > type > > > > of allotment of different time frame to the nine planets. > > > > > > > > > > Please enlighten me with your thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > S.Gopalakrishnan > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. > Click > > > > here > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 30, 2008 Dear Friend, What I mean is no more articles on the sub sub theory in the KP & Astrology Year Books. BTW thank you for telling something interesting about Dr. Kar the Great (which is in my mind) who had restlessly written more than a decade about his sub sub theory to be called as his KP (Kar Padhdhati) and made the 1996 & 2001 KP & Astrology Year Books out of print. He is a true follower of KP principles and said he did not know Traditional. With the slogan, if retrograde is nothing in Natal, why not in Horary, he introduced the cancellation theory of retrograde. Another one is bolder than him by saying retrograde doesn't work in Natal as well as Horary by telling at the same time that Horary has been rarely practiced by him and he knows a little about Traditional. Have you found the impossible thing of Dr. Kar's cancellation theory about Mars Dosha in his writing as one is saying? Thanks and regards, tw , Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <mk_astrology wrote: > > Dear Friend, > I appreciate your observation on Dr.KAR's idea. > On your statement " ...Regarding the so-called new car, it is said not to see the drivers > after his death in his regularly contributing KP & Astrlogy Year Book.... " , I can't get your point. Sorry. > With regards, > MK. > > > > ________________________________ > tw853 <tw853 > > Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:36:29 PM > Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > Dear Friend, > > Just about Dr.KAR's idea on allocation of Years under Vimshottari > Dasa system, it is not simple and straight forward like Sage > Prashara's style and the same idea is not applied consistently to all > planets. > > Regarding the so-called new car, it is said not to see the drivers > after his death in his regularly contributing KP & Astrlogy Year > Book. > > Regards, > > tw > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Friend, > > I just mentioned about Dr.KAR's idea on allocation of Years under > Vimshottari Dasa system. > > I do admire his new findings or his creativity just for the sake of > it. Whether they are working well or not is a different matter of > issue. > > I got tensed up on your questioning about the efficacy of his > approach. This question should actually be sent to the research group > under " Testing of New > > Theories " . > > Now that I have my own concept of analysing a chart, and as Dr.KAR > himself is no more, I do not totally rely on his theories alone. > However, I have borrowed some of his ideas and am making use of it, > especially the idea of his on who are the significators of 12 Houses. > > It is up to one's option to go for his approach or not. > > Thanks anyway, friend. > > > > With thanks and warm regards, > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.) > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based) > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006 > > Cell: 99443-07025 > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > tw853 <tw853@> > > @gro ups.com > > Monday, October 27, 2008 7:30:43 AM > > Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > As you're not discussing the issue, there is no reason to continue > > this discussion. > > > > The simple question: if it is simple, is the same idea is applied > to > > all planets? > > > > It will be helpful, if anything more is available in addition to > the > > list in the File section under: > > > > DR. KAR'S SUB-SUB THEORY ARTICLES.doc > > DR. KAR'S SUB-SUB THOERY ARTICLES > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > tw > > > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Tin Win Sir, > > > It seems that you are not for any of Dr.KAR's ideas. It's okay. > Let > > it be my piece of cake. > > > I consider Dr.KAR's approach simpler than that of KSK in some > > respects, though the former has taken a deeper step, of course, > based > > on the latter's. > > > Nevertheless, I don't expect any approach to be absolutely > > consistent, nor do I claim Dr.Kar's is. > > > I admire his findings on the ground that he, at this age and > living > > in a remote village, without the use of any modern gadgets like > > computers, but for a 10-digit ordinary calculator, can do research > to > > such an extent. > > > Who else other than Dr.KAR, do you think, can have the guts to > > say: " KSK's Sublord Theory is like an old model car of 1920s, while > > my SubSub Theory is like the one of modern technology of today. " > > This, he has written in his letter to me ( in 2002). > > > These words are not to be mistaken in any sense as humiliating KP > > or anything like that. No, not at all. These strong words only > reveal > > the confidence he had in his own approach. It is quite natural that > > anyone who has put in so much study and experiment would certainly > > boast of the results when it really works for him. > > > We may not get correctly sometimes.May be that is because we are > > not able to get to the core of his teachings. > > > Most of us are just used to saying very easily - 'This does not > > work, that does not work.. " and so on. This kind of thinking will > be > > good only when we ourselves can come out with a better solution for > > the problems we see in other's findings. > > > Until then, it is better to be convinced with an idea to the > extent > > we can accept the same. If we are not convinced really, we have to > go > > on looking for somebody else to feed us in a better way. > > > Let us all take it easy. > > > > > > With thanks and warm regards, > > > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.) > > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor > > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based) > > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006 > > > Cell: 99443-07025 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > tw853 <tw853@> > > > @gro ups.com > > > Saturday, October 25, 2008 4:11:15 PM > > > Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > > > > Dear Mohan Kumar Ragunathan, > > > > > > Is his approach is simple? > > > Is his approach is consistent without exceptions? > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > tw > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > > > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Of course again, it is only about the particular issue of > subject > > > matter, namely " Vimshottari Dasa " , the said person is referred > to. > > He > > > does have many other subject matters to his credit, not to > mention > > > them. > > > > > > > > With thanks and warm regards, > > > > > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.) > > > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor > > > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based) > > > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006 > > > > Cell: 99443-07025 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > tw853 <tw853@> > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Saturday, October 25, 2008 6:32:36 AM > > > > Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > Discussion is supposed to be on the issue not on the person. > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > > > > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > Of course, it is only " Dr.Kar's Dream Theory " and none > other's. > > > > > It is not an absolute necessity for anyone to appreciate or > > > applaud > > > > the great researcher's own ideas, that too, not when he is no > > more. > > > > > Nobody existing on this planet knows about Parashara's > > > originality > > > > and individuality in this regard. > > > > > But it is a fact that we know about, at least, one person on > > this > > > earth > > > > > who existed in the recent past who could think about it and > > give > > > an > > > > idea. > > > > > > > > > > With thanks and warm regards, > > > > > > > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.) > > > > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor > > > > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based) > > > > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006 > > > > > Cell: 99443-07025 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@ ..> > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Cc: Kanak Bosmia <loger@ ...>; Mr.A.R.Raichur > > > <raichurar@ ..> > > > > > Friday, October 24, 2008 7:58:25 PM > > > > > Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tin Win, > > > > > Contrary to your " research paper " ,which, > > in > > > my > > > > opinion is not properly directed towards the effects of Mars > > > Dosha,but > > > > only towards the " existence " or otherwise of " Mars Dosha " ... > Evil > > > > effects of Mars Dosha DO EXIST/OCCUR ... even as per K.P. > > > > Principles,as elaborated in ASTROSECRETS & K.P., by the late > > eminent > > > > astrologer and Guruji's Student, as well as Guruji himself > > > originally, > > > > Mars Dosha as per K.P., exists only when : > > > > > Mars is in Sun's Star or own star,and occupying the houses > > > > I,II,IV,VII, VIII & XII.. > > > > > Mr.Subhash Ektare is very right,indeed, > > in > > > my > > > > humble opinion... > > > > > What is desireable is a comprehensive > > study > > > of > > > > the occurence and effects of Mars Dosha,if any manifested in > the > > > > cases taken for analysis... > > > > > I urge you and Mr.Bosmia to carry out > > such > > > a > > > > study... > > > > > With best wishes, > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > tw853 <tw853 > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Friday, 24 October, 2008 6:04:09 PM > > > > > Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > 1. It's Dr. Kar's dream theory in his last article > > > in " KP & Astrology > > > > > Year Book 2004 " pp 63-70 before he passed away. > > > > > > > > > > 2. With due respect to Dr. Kar, my personal view is that this > > > theory > > > > > does not seem like Maharshi Parashara's style of thinking as > he > > > > > explained Vimshotarri Dasa in Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra. > > > > > > > > > > 3. The Vimshotarri Dasa system does not seem to be directly > > > derived > > > > > from any celestial cycle or event. In spite of a variety of > > > ingenious > > > > > explanations, no one knows why each dasha was allocated in > > > specific > > > > > number of years , nor even why the planets were arranged in > > their > > > > > specific order. These rules have been accepted after > verifying > > > them > > > > > through experience. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > > > > > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > Being his last student by correspondence coaching, > Dr.Pt.KAR > > Ji > > > has > > > > > told me about this theory of his, which he called " My Dream > > > > > Theory " and had worked on it for nearly two years. > > > > > > You can find it in " KP & Astrology Year Book 2004 " . > > > > > > I can send you a xerox copy of it by post, if i can have > your > > > > > address. > > > > > > You may send it to my mail box, if you don't mind it. > > > > > > > > > > > > With thanks and warm regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.) > > > > > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor > > > > > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based) > > > > > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006 > > > > > > Cell: 99443-07025 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pankaj Lakhlani <p_lakhlani2003@ ...> > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:17:31 PM > > > > > > Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir; > > > > > > Please be kind and send a copy of the artical directly. > When > > > > > received through the group, the attachment was not sent along > > > with. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you in anticipation; > > > > > > > > > > > > Yours faithfully; > > > > > > P Lakhlani > > > > > > > > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Gopalakrishnan, > > > > > > The late Mr. K.R.Kar, a very > > > > > eminent researcher and proloific writer on K.P., has > explained > > > the > > > > > rationale of the Vimshottari Dasa...also I have not found the > > > > > rationale for the Vimshottari Dasa in any of the Text Books > of > > > > > Traditional Astrology... > > > > > > I am sending you his entire article > > > > > which appeared in an Annual of the Magazine, K.P. & > Astrology... > > > > > > I hope that you will try to digest > > > > > the substance of the article... > > > > > > In my humble opinion,the article is > > > > > simple and well-written and therefore,I do not expect you to > > ask > > > me > > > > > any further queries on this subject... > > > > > > With the very best wishes, > > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > Gopalakrishnan Subra Iyer <subragops3> > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > Wednesday, 22 October, 2008 10:19:47 AM > > > > > > Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Learned members of this group, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a very basic question regarding the Vimshottari > Dasa. > > > What > > > > > is the rationale for giving 6 years to Sun, 10 years to moon, > 7 > > > years > > > > > to Mars etc...? I'm sure there must be a valid reason for > this > > > type > > > > > of allotment of different time frame to the nine planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please enlighten me with your thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > S.Gopalakrishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. > > Click > > > > > here > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 30, 2008 Dear Tinwin Thanks for the reply. Vaksiddhi has plays key role in so many great predictions , Many Editors of Astrological journals succeeded in national predictions/international predictions but has failed in predicting many common peoples cases. Even TV media astrologer too failed to prdict but still they are getting response as well as becoming famous. I met Mr.Pundareesh in 1986 who was practicing KP then and erected my chart and predicted Ketu dahsa will be benefitted financially as it is in the sub of the Moon lord of 6th in the star of Jupiter lord of 2nd and 11th. Though i have faced thyrosis in Ketu.Ketu.Ketu Moon period on 16th February 2005, but later i have experienced financial gains from April/May 2005 onwards . Sahhasra Saagara--- On Wed, 29/10/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote: tw853 <tw853 Re: Vimshottari dasa Date: Wednesday, 29 October, 2008, 9:22 PM Dear Sahhasra Saagara,1. That may be true. Shri Kuppu Ganapathi used to use good time and Shri Raichur is wondering how does he choose such good time. Dr. B.V. Raman became a world known astrologer by his 2nd world war predictions. Many astrologers are successful for certain periods.2. Regarding Ayanamsa, there is no confusion at all and it isn't a big deal. Just to stick the one which is mostly fit to your prediction techniques. How to check has been already discussed. For instance, Raman Ayanamsa has been severely criticized by some Vedic astrologers in favor of Lahiri but he made the world known predictions using his own ayanamsa.Regards,tw@gro ups.com, Sagar S <ssagar86@.. .> wrote:>> Dear friends> Vaksiddhi and running dasha period of astrologer too will play key role accurate predictrions in so many cases.> I was using Local Panchanga/almanac in 1984-86, those days also i have experienced accurate predictions when i was very amature, ofcourse even now also i am a student of astrology.> For me KP original ayanamsha has given accurate dasha period events in so many cases , now almost all are using KPNA and now i am little confussion.> Sahhasra Saagara> > --- On Mon, 27/10/08, Subhash Ektare <subhash_ektare@ ...> wrote:> > Subhash Ektare <subhash_ektare@ ...>> Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa> @gro ups.com> Monday, 27 October, 2008, 11:20 PM> > > > > > > > > Dear Members and Learned Gurujis,> Â > I totally agree with Dr. Luther Rath. Members are wise enough to choose> any theory which gives him accuracy in prediction. However if any member> wants to prove superiority and/or accuracy of any perticular theory he is free> to analyze few charts and present his findings to the forum for discussion.> Â > As regards second issue of Mars Dosha is concerned, I have put forth my > views on the Article in the file section. Stalwaerts like A.R.Raichur, Sunil > Gondhalekar and L.Y.R. Lajmi have supported my views. If Mars Dosha> does not exist as per KP, then what was the necessecity of the analysis and > the Article? And from where those "so called" 11 rules have come from? > Â > Dr. Luther Rath, the time and energy spent is to clear the confusions not > increasing it. > Â > Any way as suggested by Dr. Luther Rath, I am leaving this thread for> members to arrive at their own conclusion.> Â > Regards,> Subhash Ektare> > > > > > Luther Rath <rathluther>> @gro ups.com> Sunday, October 26, 2008 10:19:36 PM> Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > Respected Gurujis,> I think we are on the way of individualising the asience of astrology with out considering the accuracy in prediction. Parasara then KSK the DR. Kar and then others, I mean to say, traditional propounded by the sages, the stellar and sub theory propounded by KSK, the sub-sub theory propounded by Dr. Kar followed by sub-sub-sub theories the sub-sub-sub- sub- +++ theories and so on. I think we should honour all who have made an attempt to research and find out the more accurate methods. With out critising the individuals and the theories we have to change aour attitude. I would rather suggest Sri Mahan Kumarji to take at least one horoscope and predict a paricular event in the life of the native. I would request him to predict according to traditional systen, according to KSK Stellar System and also according to Dr. Kar's Sub-Sub theory seperately. One has to find out if the three syatems give the same result, which one is easier and which one is accurate.> All three predictions are to be done by the same person only ao that the knoledge, the proficiency the idea the thout process would not differ in prediction. Its simply futile to ponder in the dark. The discussions should be productive and result oriented. I may not be mis understand.> The other issue is 'Mars Dosha" It is also gowing in a wrong way. We have to realise the waste of time and energy in increasing confussions.> With regards.> Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > > Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrology@ >> @gro ups.com> Saturday, October 25, 2008 10:51:54 PM> Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > Dear Tin Win Sir,> It seems that you are not for any of Dr.KAR's ideas. It's okay. Let it be my piece of cake. > I consider Dr.KAR's approach simpler than that of KSK in some respects, though the former has taken a deeper step, of course, based on the latter's.> Nevertheless, I don't expect any approach to be absolutely consistent, nor do I claim Dr.Kar's is.> I admire his findings on the ground that he, at this age and living in a remote village, without the use of any modern gadgets like computers, but for a 10-digit ordinary calculator, can do research to such an extent.> Who else other than Dr.KAR, do you think, can have the guts to say: "KSK's Sublord Theory is like an old model car of 1920s, while my SubSub Theory is like the one of modern technology of today." This, he has written in his letter to me ( in 2002).> These words are not to be mistaken in any sense as humiliating KP or anything like that. No, not at all. These strong words only reveal the confidence he had in his own approach. It is quite natural that anyone who has put in so much study and experiment would certainly boast of the results when it really works for him. > We may not get correctly sometimes.May be that is because we are not able to get to the core of his teachings. > Most of us are just used to saying very easily - 'This does not work, that does not work.." and so on. This kind of thinking will be good only when we ourselves can come out with a better solution for the problems we see in other's findings. > Until then, it is better to be convinced with an idea to the extent we can accept the same. If we are not convinced really, we have to go on looking for somebody else to feed us in a better way. > Let us all take it easy.> > With thanks and warm regards,> > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> Cell: 99443-07025 > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853 >> @gro ups.com> Saturday, October 25, 2008 4:11:15 PM> Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > Dear Mohan Kumar Ragunathan,> > Is his approach is simple?> Is his approach is consistent without exceptions?> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote:> >> > Of course again, it is only about the particular issue of subject > matter, namely "Vimshottari Dasa", the said person is referred to. He > does have many other subject matters to his credit, not to mention > them.> > > > With thanks and warm regards,> > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> > Cell: 99443-07025> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > tw853 <tw853@>> > @gro ups.com> > Saturday, October 25, 2008 6:32:36 AM> > Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > Discussion is supposed to be on the issue not on the person.> > > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan> > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Friends, > > > Of course, it is only "Dr.Kar's Dream Theory" and none other's. > > > It is not an absolute necessity for anyone to appreciate or > applaud> > the great researcher's own ideas, that too, not when he is no more.> > > Nobody existing on this planet knows about Parashara's > originality> > and individuality in this regard. > > > But it is a fact that we know about, at least, one person on this > earth> > > who existed in the recent past who could think about it and give > an> > idea.> > > > > > With thanks and warm regards,> > > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> > > Cell: 99443-07025> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@ ..>> > > @gro ups.com> > > Cc: Kanak Bosmia <loger@ ...>; Mr.A.R.Raichur > <raichurar@ ..>> > > Friday, October 24, 2008 7:58:25 PM> > > Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > > Dear Tin Win,> > > Contrary to your "research paper",which, in > my> > opinion is not properly directed towards the effects of Mars > Dosha,but> > only towards the "existence" or otherwise of "Mars Dosha"... Evil> > effects of Mars Dosha DO EXIST/OCCUR ... even as per K.P.> > Principles,as elaborated in ASTROSECRETS & K.P., by the late eminent> > astrologer and Guruji's Student, as well as Guruji himself > originally,> > Mars Dosha as per K.P., exists only when :> > > Mars is in Sun's Star or own star,and occupying the houses> > I,II,IV,VII, VIII & XII..> > > Mr.Subhash Ektare is very right,indeed, in > my> > humble opinion...> > > What is desireable is a comprehensive study > of> > the occurence and effects of Mars Dosha,if any manifested in the> > cases taken for analysis...> > > I urge you and Mr.Bosmia to carry out such > a> > study...> > > With best wishes,> > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > tw853 <tw853 >> > > @gro ups.com> > > Friday, 24 October, 2008 6:04:09 PM> > > Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > 1. It's Dr. Kar's dream theory in his last article > in "KP & Astrology > > > Year Book 2004" pp 63-70 before he passed away.> > > > > > 2. With due respect to Dr. Kar, my personal view is that this > theory > > > does not seem like Maharshi Parashara's style of thinking as he > > > explained Vimshotarri Dasa in Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra. > > > > > > 3. The Vimshotarri Dasa system does not seem to be directly > derived > > > from any celestial cycle or event. In spite of a variety of > ingenious > > > explanations, no one knows why each dasha was allocated in > specific > > > number of years , nor even why the planets were arranged in their > > > specific order. These rules have been accepted after verifying > them > > > through experience.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > tw> > > > > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > > > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sir,> > > > Being his last student by correspondence coaching, Dr.Pt.KAR Ji > has > > > told me about this theory of his, which he called "My Dream > > > Theory"and had worked on it for nearly two years.> > > > You can find it in "KP & Astrology Year Book 2004".> > > > I can send you a xerox copy of it by post, if i can have your > > > address.> > > > You may send it to my mail box, if you don't mind it.> > > > > > > > With thanks and warm regards,> > > > > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> > > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> > > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> > > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> > > > Cell: 99443-07025> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pankaj Lakhlani <p_lakhlani2003@ ...>> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:17:31 PM> > > > Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > > > > > Sir;> > > > Please be kind and send a copy of the artical directly. When > > > received through the group, the attachment was not sent along > with.> > > > > > > > Thanking you in anticipation;> > > > > > > > Yours faithfully;> > > > P Lakhlani> > > > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > > > Dear Gopalakrishnan,> > > > The late Mr. K.R.Kar, a very > > > eminent researcher and proloific writer on K.P., has explained > the > > > rationale of the Vimshottari Dasa...also I have not found the > > > rationale for the Vimshottari Dasa in any of the Text Books of > > > Traditional Astrology...> > > > I am sending you his entire article > > > which appeared in an Annual of the Magazine, K.P. & Astrology...> > > > I hope that you will try to digest > > > the substance of the article...> > > > In my humble opinion,the article is > > > simple and well-written and therefore,I do not expect you to ask > me > > > any further queries on this subject...> > > > With the very best wishes,> > > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > Gopalakrishnan Subra Iyer <subragops3>> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Wednesday, 22 October, 2008 10:19:47 AM> > > > Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Learned members of this group,> > > > > > > > I have a very basic question regarding the Vimshottari Dasa. > What > > > is the rationale for giving 6 years to Sun, 10 years to moon, 7 > years > > > to Mars etc...? I'm sure there must be a valid reason for this > type > > > of allotment of different time frame to the nine planets.> > > > > > > > Please enlighten me with your thoughts.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > S.Gopalakrishnan > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click > > > here> > > >> > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 31, 2008 Dear Saagara Ji , When we speak of 'Vaksiddhi', we have to accept it as a great 'special gift' to an astrologer. No doubt.Also, it is believed that whatever a person with a mole on his tongue says also happens. Something related to Vaksiddhi.But, may I ask my seniors and gurus that should we not be more concerned about the principles of Astrology as it is. Whether we take the only combinations of planets as Signlords in a Rasi Chart or take the Sublord or even go beyond that is not a question, but there should be clear and analytical approach for the conclusions/ predictions we make on a chart. Only then we can claim it as a science, isn't it.Some people in my place, after much efforts to understand the principles and their applications but couldn't make it well, now tend to reject astrology saying that "it is only a "science of intuition", by which they mean to put forward the idea that not all people can grasp its intricacies. If it is true, the whole lot of discussions we make here and in other forums persistently will go meaningless and useless, if we think about and accept that "special gift" which as astrologer is supposed to have.In KP & Astrology, 1996 issue, in the last chapter of Questions and Answers, it is said that "KSK did not believe in INTUITION, but strived hard to base this science only on its principles, which we should also follow suit. May be it will take a long time more and some day we can get better results out of these principles like Mars Dosha, Retrogradation, Yogas and other Doshas, constituting this so-called "Divine Science".I hope that I am in line with your idea or do I differ with my above opinion. Please advise.With regards,MK.Sagar S <ssagar86 Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 11:23:49 PMRe: Re: Vimshottari dasa Dear Tinwin Thanks for the reply. Vaksiddhi has plays key role in so many great predictions , Many Editors of Astrological journals succeeded in national predictions/ international predictions but has failed in predicting many common peoples cases. Even TV media astrologer too failed to prdict but still they are getting response as well as becoming famous. I met Mr.Pundareesh in 1986 who was practicing KP then and erected my chart and predicted Ketu dahsa will be benefitted financially as it is in the sub of the Moon lord of 6th in the star of Jupiter lord of 2nd and 11th. Though i have faced thyrosis in Ketu.Ketu.Ketu Moon period on 16th February 2005, but later i have experienced financial gains from April/May 2005 onwards . Sahhasra Saagara--- On Wed, 29/10/08, tw853 <tw853 > wrote: tw853 <tw853 > Re: Vimshottari dasa@gro ups.comWednesday, 29 October, 2008, 9:22 PM Dear Sahhasra Saagara,1. That may be true. Shri Kuppu Ganapathi used to use good time and Shri Raichur is wondering how does he choose such good time. Dr. B.V. Raman became a world known astrologer by his 2nd world war predictions. Many astrologers are successful for certain periods.2. Regarding Ayanamsa, there is no confusion at all and it isn't a big deal. Just to stick the one which is mostly fit to your prediction techniques. How to check has been already discussed. For instance, Raman Ayanamsa has been severely criticized by some Vedic astrologers in favor of Lahiri but he made the world known predictions using his own ayanamsa.Regards,tw@gro ups.com, Sagar S <ssagar86@.. .> wrote:>> Dear friends> Vaksiddhi and running dasha period of astrologer too will play key role accurate predictrions in so many cases.> I was using Local Panchanga/almanac in 1984-86, those days also i have experienced accurate predictions when i was very amature, ofcourse even now also i am a student of astrology.> For me KP original ayanamsha has given accurate dasha period events in so many cases , now almost all are using KPNA and now i am little confussion.> Sahhasra Saagara> > --- On Mon, 27/10/08, Subhash Ektare <subhash_ektare@ ...> wrote:> > Subhash Ektare <subhash_ektare@ ...>> Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa> @gro ups.com> Monday, 27 October, 2008, 11:20 PM> > > > > > > > > Dear Members and Learned Gurujis,> Â > I totally agree with Dr. Luther Rath. Members are wise enough to choose> any theory which gives him accuracy in prediction. However if any member> wants to prove superiority and/or accuracy of any perticular theory he is free> to analyze few charts and present his findings to the forum for discussion.> Â > As regards second issue of Mars Dosha is concerned, I have put forth my > views on the Article in the file section. Stalwaerts like A.R.Raichur, Sunil > Gondhalekar and L.Y.R. Lajmi have supported my views. If Mars Dosha> does not exist as per KP, then what was the necessecity of the analysis and > the Article? And from where those "so called" 11 rules have come from? > Â > Dr. Luther Rath, the time and energy spent is to clear the confusions not > increasing it. > Â > Any way as suggested by Dr. Luther Rath, I am leaving this thread for> members to arrive at their own conclusion.> Â > Regards,> Subhash Ektare> > > > > > Luther Rath <rathluther>> @gro ups.com> Sunday, October 26, 2008 10:19:36 PM> Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > Respected Gurujis,> I think we are on the way of individualising the asience of astrology with out considering the accuracy in prediction. Parasara then KSK the DR. Kar and then others, I mean to say, traditional propounded by the sages, the stellar and sub theory propounded by KSK, the sub-sub theory propounded by Dr. Kar followed by sub-sub-sub theories the sub-sub-sub- sub- +++ theories and so on. I think we should honour all who have made an attempt to research and find out the more accurate methods. With out critising the individuals and the theories we have to change aour attitude. I would rather suggest Sri Mahan Kumarji to take at least one horoscope and predict a paricular event in the life of the native. I would request him to predict according to traditional systen, according to KSK Stellar System and also according to Dr. Kar's Sub-Sub theory seperately. One has to find out if the three syatems give the same result, which one is easier and which one is accurate.> All three predictions are to be done by the same person only ao that the knoledge, the proficiency the idea the thout process would not differ in prediction. Its simply futile to ponder in the dark. The discussions should be productive and result oriented. I may not be mis understand.> The other issue is 'Mars Dosha" It is also gowing in a wrong way. We have to realise the waste of time and energy in increasing confussions.> With regards.> Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > > Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrology@ >> @gro ups.com> Saturday, October 25, 2008 10:51:54 PM> Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > Dear Tin Win Sir,> It seems that you are not for any of Dr.KAR's ideas. It's okay. Let it be my piece of cake. > I consider Dr.KAR's approach simpler than that of KSK in some respects, though the former has taken a deeper step, of course, based on the latter's.> Nevertheless, I don't expect any approach to be absolutely consistent, nor do I claim Dr.Kar's is.> I admire his findings on the ground that he, at this age and living in a remote village, without the use of any modern gadgets like computers, but for a 10-digit ordinary calculator, can do research to such an extent.> Who else other than Dr.KAR, do you think, can have the guts to say: "KSK's Sublord Theory is like an old model car of 1920s, while my SubSub Theory is like the one of modern technology of today." This, he has written in his letter to me ( in 2002).> These words are not to be mistaken in any sense as humiliating KP or anything like that. No, not at all. These strong words only reveal the confidence he had in his own approach. It is quite natural that anyone who has put in so much study and experiment would certainly boast of the results when it really works for him. > We may not get correctly sometimes.May be that is because we are not able to get to the core of his teachings. > Most of us are just used to saying very easily - 'This does not work, that does not work.." and so on. This kind of thinking will be good only when we ourselves can come out with a better solution for the problems we see in other's findings. > Until then, it is better to be convinced with an idea to the extent we can accept the same. If we are not convinced really, we have to go on looking for somebody else to feed us in a better way. > Let us all take it easy.> > With thanks and warm regards,> > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> Cell: 99443-07025 > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853 >> @gro ups.com> Saturday, October 25, 2008 4:11:15 PM> Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > Dear Mohan Kumar Ragunathan,> > Is his approach is simple?> Is his approach is consistent without exceptions?> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote:> >> > Of course again, it is only about the particular issue of subject > matter, namely "Vimshottari Dasa", the said person is referred to. He > does have many other subject matters to his credit, not to mention > them.> > > > With thanks and warm regards,> > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> > Cell: 99443-07025> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > tw853 <tw853@>> > @gro ups.com> > Saturday, October 25, 2008 6:32:36 AM> > Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > Discussion is supposed to be on the issue not on the person.> > > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan> > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Friends, > > > Of course, it is only "Dr.Kar's Dream Theory" and none other's. > > > It is not an absolute necessity for anyone to appreciate or > applaud> > the great researcher's own ideas, that too, not when he is no more.> > > Nobody existing on this planet knows about Parashara's > originality> > and individuality in this regard. > > > But it is a fact that we know about, at least, one person on this > earth> > > who existed in the recent past who could think about it and give > an> > idea.> > > > > > With thanks and warm regards,> > > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> > > Cell: 99443-07025> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@ ..>> > > @gro ups.com> > > Cc: Kanak Bosmia <loger@ ...>; Mr.A.R.Raichur > <raichurar@ ..>> > > Friday, October 24, 2008 7:58:25 PM> > > Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > > Dear Tin Win,> > > Contrary to your "research paper",which, in > my> > opinion is not properly directed towards the effects of Mars > Dosha,but> > only towards the "existence" or otherwise of "Mars Dosha"... Evil> > effects of Mars Dosha DO EXIST/OCCUR ... even as per K.P.> > Principles,as elaborated in ASTROSECRETS & K.P., by the late eminent> > astrologer and Guruji's Student, as well as Guruji himself > originally,> > Mars Dosha as per K..P., exists only when :> > > Mars is in Sun's Star or own star,and occupying the houses> > I,II,IV,VII, VIII & XII..> > > Mr.Subhash Ektare is very right,indeed, in > my> > humble opinion...> > > What is desireable is a comprehensive study > of> > the occurence and effects of Mars Dosha,if any manifested in the> > cases taken for analysis...> > > I urge you and Mr.Bosmia to carry out such > a> > study...> > > With best wishes,> > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > tw853 <tw853 >> > > @gro ups.com> > > Friday, 24 October, 2008 6:04:09 PM> > > Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > 1. It's Dr. Kar's dream theory in his last article > in "KP & Astrology > > > Year Book 2004" pp 63-70 before he passed away.> > > > > > 2. With due respect to Dr. Kar, my personal view is that this > theory > > > does not seem like Maharshi Parashara's style of thinking as he > > > explained Vimshotarri Dasa in Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra. > > > > > > 3. The Vimshotarri Dasa system does not seem to be directly > derived > > > from any celestial cycle or event. In spite of a variety of > ingenious > > > explanations, no one knows why each dasha was allocated in > specific > > > number of years , nor even why the planets were arranged in their > > > specific order. These rules have been accepted after verifying > them > > > through experience.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > tw> > > > > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > > > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sir,> > > > Being his last student by correspondence coaching, Dr.Pt.KAR Ji > has > > > told me about this theory of his, which he called "My Dream > > > Theory"and had worked on it for nearly two years.> > > > You can find it in "KP & Astrology Year Book 2004".> > > > I can send you a xerox copy of it by post, if i can have your > > > address.> > > > You may send it to my mail box, if you don't mind it.> > > > > > > > With thanks and warm regards,> > > > > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> > > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> > > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> > > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> > > > Cell: 99443-07025> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pankaj Lakhlani <p_lakhlani2003@ ...>> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:17:31 PM> > > > Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > > > > > Sir;> > > > Please be kind and send a copy of the artical directly. When > > > received through the group, the attachment was not sent along > with.> > > > > > > > Thanking you in anticipation;> > > > > > > > Yours faithfully;> > > > P Lakhlani> > > > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > > > Dear Gopalakrishnan,> > > > The late Mr. K.R.Kar, a very > > > eminent researcher and proloific writer on K.P., has explained > the > > > rationale of the Vimshottari Dasa...also I have not found the > > > rationale for the Vimshottari Dasa in any of the Text Books of > > > Traditional Astrology...> > > > I am sending you his entire article > > > which appeared in an Annual of the Magazine, K.P. & Astrology...> > > > I hope that you will try to digest > > > the substance of the article...> > > > In my humble opinion,the article is > > > simple and well-written and therefore,I do not expect you to ask > me > > > any further queries on this subject...> > > > With the very best wishes,> > > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > Gopalakrishnan Subra Iyer <subragops3>> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Wednesday, 22 October, 2008 10:19:47 AM> > > > Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Learned members of this group,> > > > > > > > I have a very basic question regarding the Vimshottari Dasa. > What > > > is the rationale for giving 6 years to Sun, 10 years to moon, 7 > years > > > to Mars etc...? I'm sure there must be a valid reason for this > type > > > of allotment of different time frame to the nine planets.> > > > > > > > Please enlighten me with your thoughts.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > S.Gopalakrishnan > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click > > > here> > > >> > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 31, 2008 Dear Sagar You said that "Vaksiddhi and running dasha period of astrologer too will play key role accurate predictrions in so many cases." What should we do to get good Vaksiddhi? Praying god and doing meditation will improve Vaksiddhi? Avoiding nonvegetarian will improve Valsiddhi? When the astrologer's running dasa is bad, he should wind up his business in those period. Am I correct? Dhanabalan --- On Thu, 10/30/08, Sagar S <ssagar86 wrote: Sagar S <ssagar86Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 5:53 PM Dear Tinwin Thanks for the reply. Vaksiddhi has plays key role in so many great predictions , Many Editors of Astrological journals succeeded in national predictions/ international predictions but has failed in predicting many common peoples cases. Even TV media astrologer too failed to prdict but still they are getting response as well as becoming famous. I met Mr.Pundareesh in 1986 who was practicing KP then and erected my chart and predicted Ketu dahsa will be benefitted financially as it is in the sub of the Moon lord of 6th in the star of Jupiter lord of 2nd and 11th. Though i have faced thyrosis in Ketu.Ketu.Ketu Moon period on 16th February 2005, but later i have experienced financial gains from April/May 2005 onwards . Sahhasra Saagara--- On Wed, 29/10/08, tw853 <tw853 > wrote: tw853 <tw853 > Re: Vimshottari dasa@gro ups.comWednesday, 29 October, 2008, 9:22 PM Dear Sahhasra Saagara,1. That may be true. Shri Kuppu Ganapathi used to use good time and Shri Raichur is wondering how does he choose such good time. Dr. B.V. Raman became a world known astrologer by his 2nd world war predictions. Many astrologers are successful for certain periods.2. Regarding Ayanamsa, there is no confusion at all and it isn't a big deal. Just to stick the one which is mostly fit to your prediction techniques. How to check has been already discussed. For instance, Raman Ayanamsa has been severely criticized by some Vedic astrologers in favor of Lahiri but he made the world known predictions using his own ayanamsa.Regards,tw@gro ups.com, Sagar S <ssagar86@.. .> wrote:>> Dear friends> Vaksiddhi and running dasha period of astrologer too will play key role accurate predictrions in so many cases.> I was using Local Panchanga/almanac in 1984-86, those days also i have experienced accurate predictions when i was very amature, ofcourse even now also i am a student of astrology.> For me KP original ayanamsha has given accurate dasha period events in so many cases , now almost all are using KPNA and now i am little confussion.> Sahhasra Saagara> > --- On Mon, 27/10/08, Subhash Ektare <subhash_ektare@ ....> wrote:> > Subhash Ektare <subhash_ektare@ ....>> Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa> @gro ups.com> Monday, 27 October, 2008, 11:20 PM> > > > > > > > > Dear Members and Learned Gurujis,> Â > I totally agree with Dr. Luther Rath. Members are wise enough to choose> any theory which gives him accuracy in prediction. However if any member> wants to prove superiority and/or accuracy of any perticular theory he is free> to analyze few charts and present his findings to the forum for discussion.> Â > As regards second issue of Mars Dosha is concerned, I have put forth my > views on the Article in the file section. Stalwaerts like A.R.Raichur, Sunil > Gondhalekar and L.Y.R. Lajmi have supported my views. If Mars Dosha> does not exist as per KP, then what was the necessecity of the analysis and > the Article? And from where those "so called" 11 rules have come from? > Â > Dr. Luther Rath, the time and energy spent is to clear the confusions not > increasing it. > Â > Any way as suggested by Dr. Luther Rath, I am leaving this thread for> members to arrive at their own conclusion.> Â > Regards,> Subhash Ektare> > > > > > Luther Rath <rathluther>> @gro ups.com> Sunday, October 26, 2008 10:19:36 PM> Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > Respected Gurujis,> I think we are on the way of individualising the asience of astrology with out considering the accuracy in prediction. Parasara then KSK the DR. Kar and then others, I mean to say, traditional propounded by the sages, the stellar and sub theory propounded by KSK, the sub-sub theory propounded by Dr. Kar followed by sub-sub-sub theories the sub-sub-sub- sub- +++ theories and so on. I think we should honour all who have made an attempt to research and find out the more accurate methods. With out critising the individuals and the theories we have to change aour attitude. I would rather suggest Sri Mahan Kumarji to take at least one horoscope and predict a paricular event in the life of the native. I would request him to predict according to traditional systen, according to KSK Stellar System and also according to Dr. Kar's Sub-Sub theory seperately. One has to find out if the three syatems give the same result, which one is easier and which one is accurate.> All three predictions are to be done by the same person only ao that the knoledge, the proficiency the idea the thout process would not differ in prediction. Its simply futile to ponder in the dark. The discussions should be productive and result oriented. I may not be mis understand.> The other issue is 'Mars Dosha" It is also gowing in a wrong way. We have to realise the waste of time and energy in increasing confussions.> With regards.> Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > > Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrology@ >> @gro ups.com> Saturday, October 25, 2008 10:51:54 PM> Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > Dear Tin Win Sir,> It seems that you are not for any of Dr..KAR's ideas. It's okay. Let it be my piece of cake. > I consider Dr.KAR's approach simpler than that of KSK in some respects, though the former has taken a deeper step, of course, based on the latter's.> Nevertheless, I don't expect any approach to be absolutely consistent, nor do I claim Dr.Kar's is.> I admire his findings on the ground that he, at this age and living in a remote village, without the use of any modern gadgets like computers, but for a 10-digit ordinary calculator, can do research to such an extent.> Who else other than Dr.KAR, do you think, can have the guts to say: "KSK's Sublord Theory is like an old model car of 1920s, while my SubSub Theory is like the one of modern technology of today." This, he has written in his letter to me ( in 2002).> These words are not to be mistaken in any sense as humiliating KP or anything like that. No, not at all. These strong words only reveal the confidence he had in his own approach. It is quite natural that anyone who has put in so much study and experiment would certainly boast of the results when it really works for him. > We may not get correctly sometimes.May be that is because we are not able to get to the core of his teachings. > Most of us are just used to saying very easily - 'This does not work, that does not work.." and so on. This kind of thinking will be good only when we ourselves can come out with a better solution for the problems we see in other's findings. > Until then, it is better to be convinced with an idea to the extent we can accept the same. If we are not convinced really, we have to go on looking for somebody else to feed us in a better way. > Let us all take it easy.> > With thanks and warm regards,> > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> Cell: 99443-07025 > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853 >> @gro ups.com> Saturday, October 25, 2008 4:11:15 PM> Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > Dear Mohan Kumar Ragunathan,> > Is his approach is simple?> Is his approach is consistent without exceptions?> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote:> >> > Of course again, it is only about the particular issue of subject > matter, namely "Vimshottari Dasa", the said person is referred to. He > does have many other subject matters to his credit, not to mention > them.> > > > With thanks and warm regards,> > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> > Cell: 99443-07025> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > tw853 <tw853@>> > @gro ups.com> > Saturday, October 25, 2008 6:32:36 AM> > Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > Discussion is supposed to be on the issue not on the person.> > > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan> > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Friends, > > > Of course, it is only "Dr.Kar's Dream Theory" and none other's. > > > It is not an absolute necessity for anyone to appreciate or > applaud> > the great researcher's own ideas, that too, not when he is no more.> > > Nobody existing on this planet knows about Parashara's > originality> > and individuality in this regard. > > > But it is a fact that we know about, at least, one person on this > earth> > > who existed in the recent past who could think about it and give > an> > idea.> > > > > > With thanks and warm regards,> > > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> > > Cell: 99443-07025> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@ ...>> > > @gro ups.com> > > Cc: Kanak Bosmia <loger@ ...>; Mr.A.R.Raichur > <raichurar@ ..>> > > Friday, October 24, 2008 7:58:25 PM> > > Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > > Dear Tin Win,> > > Contrary to your "research paper",which, in > my> > opinion is not properly directed towards the effects of Mars > Dosha,but> > only towards the "existence" or otherwise of "Mars Dosha"... Evil> > effects of Mars Dosha DO EXIST/OCCUR ... even as per K.P.> > Principles,as elaborated in ASTROSECRETS & K.P., by the late eminent> > astrologer and Guruji's Student, as well as Guruji himself > originally,> > Mars Dosha as per K.P., exists only when :> > > Mars is in Sun's Star or own star,and occupying the houses> > I,II,IV,VII, VIII & XII...> > > Mr.Subhash Ektare is very right,indeed, in > my> > humble opinion...> > > What is desireable is a comprehensive study > of> > the occurence and effects of Mars Dosha,if any manifested in the> > cases taken for analysis...> > > I urge you and Mr.Bosmia to carry out such > a> > study...> > > With best wishes,> > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > tw853 <tw853 >> > > @gro ups.com> > > Friday, 24 October, 2008 6:04:09 PM> > > Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > 1. It's Dr. Kar's dream theory in his last article > in "KP & Astrology > > > Year Book 2004" pp 63-70 before he passed away.> > > > > > 2. With due respect to Dr. Kar, my personal view is that this > theory > > > does not seem like Maharshi Parashara's style of thinking as he > > > explained Vimshotarri Dasa in Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra. > > > > > > 3. The Vimshotarri Dasa system does not seem to be directly > derived > > > from any celestial cycle or event. In spite of a variety of > ingenious > > > explanations, no one knows why each dasha was allocated in > specific > > > number of years , nor even why the planets were arranged in their > > > specific order. These rules have been accepted after verifying > them > > > through experience.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > tw> > > > > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > > > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sir,> > > > Being his last student by correspondence coaching, Dr.Pt.KAR Ji > has > > > told me about this theory of his, which he called "My Dream > > > Theory"and had worked on it for nearly two years.> > > > You can find it in "KP & Astrology Year Book 2004".> > > > I can send you a xerox copy of it by post, if i can have your > > > address.> > > > You may send it to my mail box, if you don't mind it.> > > > > > > > With thanks and warm regards,> > > > > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> > > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> > > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> > > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> > > > Cell: 99443-07025> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pankaj Lakhlani <p_lakhlani2003@ ...>> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:17:31 PM> > > > Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > > > > > Sir;> > > > Please be kind and send a copy of the artical directly. When > > > received through the group, the attachment was not sent along > with.> > > > > > > > Thanking you in anticipation;> > > > > > > > Yours faithfully;> > > > P Lakhlani> > > > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > > > Dear Gopalakrishnan,> > > > The late Mr. K.R.Kar, a very > > > eminent researcher and proloific writer on K.P., has explained > the > > > rationale of the Vimshottari Dasa...also I have not found the > > > rationale for the Vimshottari Dasa in any of the Text Books of > > > Traditional Astrology...> > > > I am sending you his entire article > > > which appeared in an Annual of the Magazine, K.P. & Astrology...> > > > I hope that you will try to digest > > > the substance of the article...> > > > In my humble opinion,the article is > > > simple and well-written and therefore,I do not expect you to ask > me > > > any further queries on this subject...> > > > With the very best wishes,> > > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > Gopalakrishnan Subra Iyer <subragops3>> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Wednesday, 22 October, 2008 10:19:47 AM> > > > Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Learned members of this group,> > > > > > > > I have a very basic question regarding the Vimshottari Dasa. > What > > > is the rationale for giving 6 years to Sun, 10 years to moon, 7 > years > > > to Mars etc...? I'm sure there must be a valid reason for this > type > > > of allotment of different time frame to the nine planets.> > > > > > > > Please enlighten me with your thoughts.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > S.Gopalakrishnan > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click > > > here> > > >> > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 31, 2008 Dear Dhanabalan Vaksiddhi is Birth gift as per my knowledge. National / international level predictions by amature or scholor of astrology will get lime light if he/she running good perids. Astrologers predictions will be very good when v were running 8th house dasha periods. As it benefit for the clients. Neither i was doing meditation nor worshipped any perticular God, but i was mad in learning the subject resulted in many accurate predictions but my financial prosperity is in vain, when i was running Jupiter antara in Venus bhukti of Mercury dasha my prediction proved which was published a week before and predicted 2 months before. But before that i made so many such predictions which got published but it dint get recognised but Jupiter antara period prediction made lime light and i was benefitted finanncilly as both press and public recognised it and people rush to me and my financial improvement started. In fact my method "Benefic dots and percentage of seats and votes,marks" a researched work by me and 16 predictions proved very accurate but since 1993 my predictions failed due to a small mistake i had done. Now I got the mistake and predict now but my prediction dint get place in EST, where as my method was applied by Mr.Arjun Kote and the Same got place in EST November 2008 issue on US presidential polls. Dr.BVR born in Aquarius lagna and 2nd is placed by Rahu and aspected by Jupiter the 2nd lord from the lagna resulted in Vaksiddhi i feel, in my case also Aquarius lagna Exalted Jupiter aspecting the 2nd house where 9th lord is posited resulted in Vaksiddhi. Most of the astrologer have experienced the same even Dr.BVR and many students and scholar of astrology. Sahhasra Saagara--- On Fri, 31/10/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote: Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalanRe: Re: Vimshottari dasa Date: Friday, 31 October, 2008, 5:43 PM Dear Sagar You said that "Vaksiddhi and running dasha period of astrologer too will play key role accurate predictrions in so many cases." What should we do to get good Vaksiddhi? Praying god and doing meditation will improve Vaksiddhi? Avoiding nonvegetarian will improve Valsiddhi? When the astrologer's running dasa is bad, he should wind up his business in those period. Am I correct? Dhanabalan --- On Thu, 10/30/08, Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa@gro ups.comThursday, October 30, 2008, 5:53 PM Dear Tinwin Thanks for the reply. Vaksiddhi has plays key role in so many great predictions , Many Editors of Astrological journals succeeded in national predictions/ international predictions but has failed in predicting many common peoples cases. Even TV media astrologer too failed to prdict but still they are getting response as well as becoming famous. I met Mr.Pundareesh in 1986 who was practicing KP then and erected my chart and predicted Ketu dahsa will be benefitted financially as it is in the sub of the Moon lord of 6th in the star of Jupiter lord of 2nd and 11th. Though i have faced thyrosis in Ketu.Ketu.Ketu Moon period on 16th February 2005, but later i have experienced financial gains from April/May 2005 onwards . Sahhasra Saagara--- On Wed, 29/10/08, tw853 <tw853 > wrote: tw853 <tw853 > Re: Vimshottari dasa@gro ups.comWednesday, 29 October, 2008, 9:22 PM Dear Sahhasra Saagara,1. That may be true. Shri Kuppu Ganapathi used to use good time and Shri Raichur is wondering how does he choose such good time. Dr. B.V. Raman became a world known astrologer by his 2nd world war predictions. Many astrologers are successful for certain periods.2. Regarding Ayanamsa, there is no confusion at all and it isn't a big deal. Just to stick the one which is mostly fit to your prediction techniques. How to check has been already discussed. For instance, Raman Ayanamsa has been severely criticized by some Vedic astrologers in favor of Lahiri but he made the world known predictions using his own ayanamsa.Regards,tw@gro ups.com, Sagar S <ssagar86@.. .> wrote:>> Dear friends> Vaksiddhi and running dasha period of astrologer too will play key role accurate predictrions in so many cases.> I was using Local Panchanga/almanac in 1984-86, those days also i have experienced accurate predictions when i was very amature, ofcourse even now also i am a student of astrology.> For me KP original ayanamsha has given accurate dasha period events in so many cases , now almost all are using KPNA and now i am little confussion.> Sahhasra Saagara> > --- On Mon, 27/10/08, Subhash Ektare <subhash_ektare@ ....> wrote:> > Subhash Ektare <subhash_ektare@ ....>> Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa> @gro ups.com> Monday, 27 October, 2008, 11:20 PM> > > > > > > > > Dear Members and Learned Gurujis,> Â > I totally agree with Dr. Luther Rath. Members are wise enough to choose> any theory which gives him accuracy in prediction. However if any member> wants to prove superiority and/or accuracy of any perticular theory he is free> to analyze few charts and present his findings to the forum for discussion.> Â > As regards second issue of Mars Dosha is concerned, I have put forth my > views on the Article in the file section. Stalwaerts like A.R.Raichur, Sunil > Gondhalekar and L.Y.R. Lajmi have supported my views. If Mars Dosha> does not exist as per KP, then what was the necessecity of the analysis and > the Article? And from where those "so called" 11 rules have come from? > Â > Dr. Luther Rath, the time and energy spent is to clear the confusions not > increasing it. > Â > Any way as suggested by Dr. Luther Rath, I am leaving this thread for> members to arrive at their own conclusion.> Â > Regards,> Subhash Ektare> > > > > > Luther Rath <rathluther>> @gro ups.com> Sunday, October 26, 2008 10:19:36 PM> Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > Respected Gurujis,> I think we are on the way of individualising the asience of astrology with out considering the accuracy in prediction. Parasara then KSK the DR. Kar and then others, I mean to say, traditional propounded by the sages, the stellar and sub theory propounded by KSK, the sub-sub theory propounded by Dr. Kar followed by sub-sub-sub theories the sub-sub-sub- sub- +++ theories and so on. I think we should honour all who have made an attempt to research and find out the more accurate methods. With out critising the individuals and the theories we have to change aour attitude. I would rather suggest Sri Mahan Kumarji to take at least one horoscope and predict a paricular event in the life of the native. I would request him to predict according to traditional systen, according to KSK Stellar System and also according to Dr. Kar's Sub-Sub theory seperately. One has to find out if the three syatems give the same result, which one is easier and which one is accurate.> All three predictions are to be done by the same person only ao that the knoledge, the proficiency the idea the thout process would not differ in prediction. Its simply futile to ponder in the dark. The discussions should be productive and result oriented. I may not be mis understand.> The other issue is 'Mars Dosha" It is also gowing in a wrong way. We have to realise the waste of time and energy in increasing confussions.> With regards.> Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > > Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrology@ >> @gro ups.com> Saturday, October 25, 2008 10:51:54 PM> Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > Dear Tin Win Sir,> It seems that you are not for any of Dr..KAR's ideas. It's okay. Let it be my piece of cake. > I consider Dr.KAR's approach simpler than that of KSK in some respects, though the former has taken a deeper step, of course, based on the latter's.> Nevertheless, I don't expect any approach to be absolutely consistent, nor do I claim Dr.Kar's is.> I admire his findings on the ground that he, at this age and living in a remote village, without the use of any modern gadgets like computers, but for a 10-digit ordinary calculator, can do research to such an extent.> Who else other than Dr.KAR, do you think, can have the guts to say: "KSK's Sublord Theory is like an old model car of 1920s, while my SubSub Theory is like the one of modern technology of today." This, he has written in his letter to me ( in 2002).> These words are not to be mistaken in any sense as humiliating KP or anything like that. No, not at all. These strong words only reveal the confidence he had in his own approach. It is quite natural that anyone who has put in so much study and experiment would certainly boast of the results when it really works for him. > We may not get correctly sometimes.May be that is because we are not able to get to the core of his teachings. > Most of us are just used to saying very easily - 'This does not work, that does not work.." and so on. This kind of thinking will be good only when we ourselves can come out with a better solution for the problems we see in other's findings. > Until then, it is better to be convinced with an idea to the extent we can accept the same. If we are not convinced really, we have to go on looking for somebody else to feed us in a better way. > Let us all take it easy.> > With thanks and warm regards,> > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> Cell: 99443-07025 > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853 >> @gro ups.com> Saturday, October 25, 2008 4:11:15 PM> Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > Dear Mohan Kumar Ragunathan,> > Is his approach is simple?> Is his approach is consistent without exceptions?> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote:> >> > Of course again, it is only about the particular issue of subject > matter, namely "Vimshottari Dasa", the said person is referred to. He > does have many other subject matters to his credit, not to mention > them.> > > > With thanks and warm regards,> > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> > Cell: 99443-07025> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > tw853 <tw853@>> > @gro ups.com> > Saturday, October 25, 2008 6:32:36 AM> > Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > Discussion is supposed to be on the issue not on the person.> > > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan> > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Friends, > > > Of course, it is only "Dr.Kar's Dream Theory" and none other's. > > > It is not an absolute necessity for anyone to appreciate or > applaud> > the great researcher's own ideas, that too, not when he is no more.> > > Nobody existing on this planet knows about Parashara's > originality> > and individuality in this regard. > > > But it is a fact that we know about, at least, one person on this > earth> > > who existed in the recent past who could think about it and give > an> > idea.> > > > > > With thanks and warm regards,> > > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> > > Cell: 99443-07025> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@ ...>> > > @gro ups.com> > > Cc: Kanak Bosmia <loger@ ...>; Mr.A.R.Raichur > <raichurar@ ..>> > > Friday, October 24, 2008 7:58:25 PM> > > Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > > Dear Tin Win,> > > Contrary to your "research paper",which, in > my> > opinion is not properly directed towards the effects of Mars > Dosha,but> > only towards the "existence" or otherwise of "Mars Dosha"... Evil> > effects of Mars Dosha DO EXIST/OCCUR ... even as per K.P.> > Principles,as elaborated in ASTROSECRETS & K.P., by the late eminent> > astrologer and Guruji's Student, as well as Guruji himself > originally,> > Mars Dosha as per K.P., exists only when :> > > Mars is in Sun's Star or own star,and occupying the houses> > I,II,IV,VII, VIII & XII...> > > Mr.Subhash Ektare is very right,indeed, in > my> > humble opinion...> > > What is desireable is a comprehensive study > of> > the occurence and effects of Mars Dosha,if any manifested in the> > cases taken for analysis...> > > I urge you and Mr.Bosmia to carry out such > a> > study...> > > With best wishes,> > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > tw853 <tw853 >> > > @gro ups.com> > > Friday, 24 October, 2008 6:04:09 PM> > > Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > 1. It's Dr. Kar's dream theory in his last article > in "KP & Astrology > > > Year Book 2004" pp 63-70 before he passed away.> > > > > > 2. With due respect to Dr. Kar, my personal view is that this > theory > > > does not seem like Maharshi Parashara's style of thinking as he > > > explained Vimshotarri Dasa in Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra. > > > > > > 3. The Vimshotarri Dasa system does not seem to be directly > derived > > > from any celestial cycle or event. In spite of a variety of > ingenious > > > explanations, no one knows why each dasha was allocated in > specific > > > number of years , nor even why the planets were arranged in their > > > specific order. These rules have been accepted after verifying > them > > > through experience.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > tw> > > > > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > > > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sir,> > > > Being his last student by correspondence coaching, Dr.Pt.KAR Ji > has > > > told me about this theory of his, which he called "My Dream > > > Theory"and had worked on it for nearly two years.> > > > You can find it in "KP & Astrology Year Book 2004".> > > > I can send you a xerox copy of it by post, if i can have your > > > address.> > > > You may send it to my mail box, if you don't mind it.> > > > > > > > With thanks and warm regards,> > > > > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> > > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> > > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> > > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> > > > Cell: 99443-07025> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pankaj Lakhlani <p_lakhlani2003@ ...>> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:17:31 PM> > > > Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > > > > > Sir;> > > > Please be kind and send a copy of the artical directly. When > > > received through the group, the attachment was not sent along > with.> > > > > > > > Thanking you in anticipation;> > > > > > > > Yours faithfully;> > > > P Lakhlani> > > > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > > > Dear Gopalakrishnan,> > > > The late Mr. K.R.Kar, a very > > > eminent researcher and proloific writer on K.P., has explained > the > > > rationale of the Vimshottari Dasa...also I have not found the > > > rationale for the Vimshottari Dasa in any of the Text Books of > > > Traditional Astrology...> > > > I am sending you his entire article > > > which appeared in an Annual of the Magazine, K.P. & Astrology...> > > > I hope that you will try to digest > > > the substance of the article...> > > > In my humble opinion,the article is > > > simple and well-written and therefore,I do not expect you to ask > me > > > any further queries on this subject...> > > > With the very best wishes,> > > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > Gopalakrishnan Subra Iyer <subragops3>> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Wednesday, 22 October, 2008 10:19:47 AM> > > > Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Learned members of this group,> > > > > > > > I have a very basic question regarding the Vimshottari Dasa. > What > > > is the rationale for giving 6 years to Sun, 10 years to moon, 7 > years > > > to Mars etc...? I'm sure there must be a valid reason for this > type > > > of allotment of different time frame to the nine planets.> > > > > > > > Please enlighten me with your thoughts.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > S.Gopalakrishnan > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click > > > here> > > >> > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 31, 2008 Dear Mohan Astrology is morethan science, there is know doubt v are making use of Astronomical notes but v predict many future events with astrological astronomical calculations only. Unless and untill v have combinations to be an astrologer though v studied 100s of book v can not predict or practice it. My friend Mr.B.S.Balendhudhara presented me prof.B.Suryanarayan rao's book as one of my prediction based on hand reading and numerology proved in his life. When he presented the astrological primer i told him v have no touch of panchanga or almanac it is for Brhmins only. In fact he is highly intellectual and learnt the subject thoughroly but neither he dint get an opportunity to make it as hobby or proffesion. Hora,ganitha is a very easiest subject where as Samhita part of Astrology is a tough job as per my knowledge and experience. I made adn proved anything can be predictable based on astrology and i feel it need more reaserch . I am sure in short period some one will bring out more research work which will be helpful . If v know Geography , Astronomy as well as the Unverse in general then it will be very useful in predicting many things.Even without knowledge of geography astronpmy our predcitons on the future events is nothing but great . Sahhasra Saagara--- On Fri, 31/10/08, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <mk_astrology wrote: Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <mk_astrologyRe: Re: Vimshottari dasa Date: Friday, 31 October, 2008, 8:24 AM Dear Saagara Ji , When we speak of 'Vaksiddhi', we have to accept it as a great 'special gift' to an astrologer. No doubt.Also, it is believed that whatever a person with a mole on his tongue says also happens. Something related to Vaksiddhi.But, may I ask my seniors and gurus that should we not be more concerned about the principles of Astrology as it is. Whether we take the only combinations of planets as Signlords in a Rasi Chart or take the Sublord or even go beyond that is not a question, but there should be clear and analytical approach for the conclusions/ predictions we make on a chart. Only then we can claim it as a science, isn't it.Some people in my place, after much efforts to understand the principles and their applications but couldn't make it well, now tend to reject astrology saying that "it is only a "science of intuition", by which they mean to put forward the idea that not all people can grasp its intricacies. If it is true, the whole lot of discussions we make here and in other forums persistently will go meaningless and useless, if we think about and accept that "special gift" which as astrologer is supposed to have.In KP & Astrology, 1996 issue, in the last chapter of Questions and Answers, it is said that "KSK did not believe in INTUITION, but strived hard to base this science only on its principles, which we should also follow suit. May be it will take a long time more and some day we can get better results out of these principles like Mars Dosha, Retrogradation, Yogas and other Doshas, constituting this so-called "Divine Science". I hope that I am in line with your idea or do I differ with my above opinion. Please advise.With regards,MK. Sagar S <ssagar86 (AT) (DOT) co.in>@gro ups.comThursday, October 30, 2008 11:23:49 PMRe: Re: Vimshottari dasa Dear Tinwin Thanks for the reply. Vaksiddhi has plays key role in so many great predictions , Many Editors of Astrological journals succeeded in national predictions/ international predictions but has failed in predicting many common peoples cases. Even TV media astrologer too failed to prdict but still they are getting response as well as becoming famous. I met Mr.Pundareesh in 1986 who was practicing KP then and erected my chart and predicted Ketu dahsa will be benefitted financially as it is in the sub of the Moon lord of 6th in the star of Jupiter lord of 2nd and 11th. Though i have faced thyrosis in Ketu.Ketu.Ketu Moon period on 16th February 2005, but later i have experienced financial gains from April/May 2005 onwards . Sahhasra Saagara--- On Wed, 29/10/08, tw853 <tw853 > wrote: tw853 <tw853 > Re: Vimshottari dasa@gro ups.comWednesday, 29 October, 2008, 9:22 PM Dear Sahhasra Saagara,1. That may be true. Shri Kuppu Ganapathi used to use good time and Shri Raichur is wondering how does he choose such good time. Dr. B.V. Raman became a world known astrologer by his 2nd world war predictions. Many astrologers are successful for certain periods.2. Regarding Ayanamsa, there is no confusion at all and it isn't a big deal. Just to stick the one which is mostly fit to your prediction techniques. How to check has been already discussed. For instance, Raman Ayanamsa has been severely criticized by some Vedic astrologers in favor of Lahiri but he made the world known predictions using his own ayanamsa.Regards,tw@gro ups.com, Sagar S <ssagar86@.. .> wrote:>> Dear friends> Vaksiddhi and running dasha period of astrologer too will play key role accurate predictrions in so many cases.> I was using Local Panchanga/almanac in 1984-86, those days also i have experienced accurate predictions when i was very amature, ofcourse even now also i am a student of astrology.> For me KP original ayanamsha has given accurate dasha period events in so many cases , now almost all are using KPNA and now i am little confussion.> Sahhasra Saagara> > --- On Mon, 27/10/08, Subhash Ektare <subhash_ektare@ ...> wrote:> > Subhash Ektare <subhash_ektare@ ...>> Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa> @gro ups.com> Monday, 27 October, 2008, 11:20 PM> > > > > > > > > Dear Members and Learned Gurujis,> Â > I totally agree with Dr. Luther Rath. Members are wise enough to choose> any theory which gives him accuracy in prediction. However if any member> wants to prove superiority and/or accuracy of any perticular theory he is free> to analyze few charts and present his findings to the forum for discussion.> Â > As regards second issue of Mars Dosha is concerned, I have put forth my > views on the Article in the file section. Stalwaerts like A.R.Raichur, Sunil > Gondhalekar and L.Y.R. Lajmi have supported my views. If Mars Dosha> does not exist as per KP, then what was the necessecity of the analysis and > the Article? And from where those "so called" 11 rules have come from? > Â > Dr. Luther Rath, the time and energy spent is to clear the confusions not > increasing it. > Â > Any way as suggested by Dr. Luther Rath, I am leaving this thread for> members to arrive at their own conclusion.> Â > Regards,> Subhash Ektare> > > > > > Luther Rath <rathluther>> @gro ups.com> Sunday, October 26, 2008 10:19:36 PM> Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > Respected Gurujis,> I think we are on the way of individualising the asience of astrology with out considering the accuracy in prediction. Parasara then KSK the DR. Kar and then others, I mean to say, traditional propounded by the sages, the stellar and sub theory propounded by KSK, the sub-sub theory propounded by Dr. Kar followed by sub-sub-sub theories the sub-sub-sub- sub- +++ theories and so on. I think we should honour all who have made an attempt to research and find out the more accurate methods. With out critising the individuals and the theories we have to change aour attitude. I would rather suggest Sri Mahan Kumarji to take at least one horoscope and predict a paricular event in the life of the native. I would request him to predict according to traditional systen, according to KSK Stellar System and also according to Dr. Kar's Sub-Sub theory seperately. One has to find out if the three syatems give the same result, which one is easier and which one is accurate.> All three predictions are to be done by the same person only ao that the knoledge, the proficiency the idea the thout process would not differ in prediction. Its simply futile to ponder in the dark. The discussions should be productive and result oriented. I may not be mis understand.> The other issue is 'Mars Dosha" It is also gowing in a wrong way. We have to realise the waste of time and energy in increasing confussions.> With regards.> Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > > Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrology@ >> @gro ups.com> Saturday, October 25, 2008 10:51:54 PM> Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > Dear Tin Win Sir,> It seems that you are not for any of Dr.KAR's ideas. It's okay. Let it be my piece of cake. > I consider Dr.KAR's approach simpler than that of KSK in some respects, though the former has taken a deeper step, of course, based on the latter's.> Nevertheless, I don't expect any approach to be absolutely consistent, nor do I claim Dr.Kar's is.> I admire his findings on the ground that he, at this age and living in a remote village, without the use of any modern gadgets like computers, but for a 10-digit ordinary calculator, can do research to such an extent.> Who else other than Dr.KAR, do you think, can have the guts to say: "KSK's Sublord Theory is like an old model car of 1920s, while my SubSub Theory is like the one of modern technology of today." This, he has written in his letter to me ( in 2002).> These words are not to be mistaken in any sense as humiliating KP or anything like that. No, not at all. These strong words only reveal the confidence he had in his own approach. It is quite natural that anyone who has put in so much study and experiment would certainly boast of the results when it really works for him. > We may not get correctly sometimes.May be that is because we are not able to get to the core of his teachings. > Most of us are just used to saying very easily - 'This does not work, that does not work.." and so on. This kind of thinking will be good only when we ourselves can come out with a better solution for the problems we see in other's findings. > Until then, it is better to be convinced with an idea to the extent we can accept the same. If we are not convinced really, we have to go on looking for somebody else to feed us in a better way. > Let us all take it easy.> > With thanks and warm regards,> > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> Cell: 99443-07025 > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853 >> @gro ups.com> Saturday, October 25, 2008 4:11:15 PM> Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > Dear Mohan Kumar Ragunathan,> > Is his approach is simple?> Is his approach is consistent without exceptions?> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote:> >> > Of course again, it is only about the particular issue of subject > matter, namely "Vimshottari Dasa", the said person is referred to. He > does have many other subject matters to his credit, not to mention > them.> > > > With thanks and warm regards,> > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> > Cell: 99443-07025> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > tw853 <tw853@>> > @gro ups.com> > Saturday, October 25, 2008 6:32:36 AM> > Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > Discussion is supposed to be on the issue not on the person.> > > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan> > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Friends, > > > Of course, it is only "Dr.Kar's Dream Theory" and none other's. > > > It is not an absolute necessity for anyone to appreciate or > applaud> > the great researcher's own ideas, that too, not when he is no more.> > > Nobody existing on this planet knows about Parashara's > originality> > and individuality in this regard. > > > But it is a fact that we know about, at least, one person on this > earth> > > who existed in the recent past who could think about it and give > an> > idea.> > > > > > With thanks and warm regards,> > > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> > > Cell: 99443-07025> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@ ..>> > > @gro ups.com> > > Cc: Kanak Bosmia <loger@ ...>; Mr.A.R.Raichur > <raichurar@ ..>> > > Friday, October 24, 2008 7:58:25 PM> > > Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > > Dear Tin Win,> > > Contrary to your "research paper",which, in > my> > opinion is not properly directed towards the effects of Mars > Dosha,but> > only towards the "existence" or otherwise of "Mars Dosha"... Evil> > effects of Mars Dosha DO EXIST/OCCUR ... even as per K.P.> > Principles,as elaborated in ASTROSECRETS & K.P., by the late eminent> > astrologer and Guruji's Student, as well as Guruji himself > originally,> > Mars Dosha as per K..P., exists only when :> > > Mars is in Sun's Star or own star,and occupying the houses> > I,II,IV,VII, VIII & XII..> > > Mr.Subhash Ektare is very right,indeed, in > my> > humble opinion...> > > What is desireable is a comprehensive study > of> > the occurence and effects of Mars Dosha,if any manifested in the> > cases taken for analysis...> > > I urge you and Mr.Bosmia to carry out such > a> > study...> > > With best wishes,> > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > tw853 <tw853 >> > > @gro ups.com> > > Friday, 24 October, 2008 6:04:09 PM> > > Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > 1. It's Dr. Kar's dream theory in his last article > in "KP & Astrology > > > Year Book 2004" pp 63-70 before he passed away.> > > > > > 2. With due respect to Dr. Kar, my personal view is that this > theory > > > does not seem like Maharshi Parashara's style of thinking as he > > > explained Vimshotarri Dasa in Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra. > > > > > > 3. The Vimshotarri Dasa system does not seem to be directly > derived > > > from any celestial cycle or event. In spite of a variety of > ingenious > > > explanations, no one knows why each dasha was allocated in > specific > > > number of years , nor even why the planets were arranged in their > > > specific order. These rules have been accepted after verifying > them > > > through experience.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > tw> > > > > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > > > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sir,> > > > Being his last student by correspondence coaching, Dr.Pt.KAR Ji > has > > > told me about this theory of his, which he called "My Dream > > > Theory"and had worked on it for nearly two years.> > > > You can find it in "KP & Astrology Year Book 2004".> > > > I can send you a xerox copy of it by post, if i can have your > > > address.> > > > You may send it to my mail box, if you don't mind it.> > > > > > > > With thanks and warm regards,> > > > > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> > > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> > > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> > > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> > > > Cell: 99443-07025> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pankaj Lakhlani <p_lakhlani2003@ ...>> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:17:31 PM> > > > Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > > > > > Sir;> > > > Please be kind and send a copy of the artical directly. When > > > received through the group, the attachment was not sent along > with.> > > > > > > > Thanking you in anticipation;> > > > > > > > Yours faithfully;> > > > P Lakhlani> > > > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > > > Dear Gopalakrishnan,> > > > The late Mr. K.R.Kar, a very > > > eminent researcher and proloific writer on K.P., has explained > the > > > rationale of the Vimshottari Dasa...also I have not found the > > > rationale for the Vimshottari Dasa in any of the Text Books of > > > Traditional Astrology...> > > > I am sending you his entire article > > > which appeared in an Annual of the Magazine, K.P. & Astrology...> > > > I hope that you will try to digest > > > the substance of the article...> > > > In my humble opinion,the article is > > > simple and well-written and therefore,I do not expect you to ask > me > > > any further queries on this subject...> > > > With the very best wishes,> > > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > Gopalakrishnan Subra Iyer <subragops3>> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Wednesday, 22 October, 2008 10:19:47 AM> > > > Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Learned members of this group,> > > > > > > > I have a very basic question regarding the Vimshottari Dasa. > What > > > is the rationale for giving 6 years to Sun, 10 years to moon, 7 > years > > > to Mars etc...? I'm sure there must be a valid reason for this > type > > > of allotment of different time frame to the nine planets.> > > > > > > > Please enlighten me with your thoughts.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > S.Gopalakrishnan > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click > > > here> > > >> > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 1, 2008 Dear Sahhasra Saagara, 1. That is what Mr.Pundareesh was lucky to make a sure prediction, as I remember one astrolger used to say like 'prediction by beating the dead bull after tying with the rope', with the full indication of all three 2,6,11 houses for financial gain. 2. It can be seen how dasa is important by the down fall and no recovery of George W. Bush after entering the nasty Mercury Dasa as per both KP & Vedic. Regards, tw , Sagar S <ssagar86 wrote: > > Dear Tinwin > Thanks for the reply. > Vaksiddhi has plays key role in so many great predictions , Many Editors of Astrological journals succeeded in national predictions/international predictions but has failed in predicting many common peoples cases. > Even TV media astrologer too failed to prdict but still they are getting response as well as becoming famous. > I met Mr.Pundareesh in 1986 who was practicing KP then and erected my chart and predicted Ketu dahsa will be benefitted financially as it is in the sub of the Moon lord of 6th in the star of Jupiter lord of 2nd and 11th. > Though i have faced thyrosis in Ketu.Ketu.Ketu Moon period on 16th February 2005, but later i have experienced financial gains from April/May 2005 onwards . >  > Sahhasra Saagara > > --- On Wed, 29/10/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote: > > tw853 <tw853 > Re: Vimshottari dasa > > Wednesday, 29 October, 2008, 9:22 PM Dear Sahhasra Saagara, > > 1. That may be true. Shri Kuppu Ganapathi used to use good time and > Shri Raichur is wondering how does he choose such good time. Dr. B.V. > Raman became a world known astrologer by his 2nd world war > predictions. Many astrologers are successful for certain periods. > > 2. Regarding Ayanamsa, there is no confusion at all and it isn't a > big deal. Just to stick the one which is mostly fit to your > prediction techniques. How to check has been already discussed. For > instance, Raman Ayanamsa has been severely criticized by some Vedic > astrologers in favor of Lahiri but he made the world known > predictions using his own ayanamsa. > > Regards, > > tw > > @gro ups.com, Sagar S <ssagar86@ .> wrote: > > > > Dear friends > > Vaksiddhi and running dasha period of astrologer too will play key > role accurate predictrions in so many cases. > > I was using Local Panchanga/almanac in 1984-86, those days also i > have experienced accurate predictions when i was very amature, > ofcourse even now also i am a student of astrology. > > For me KP original ayanamsha has given accurate dasha period events > in so many cases , now almost all are using KPNA and now i am little > confussion. > > Sahhasra Saagara > > > > --- On Mon, 27/10/08, Subhash Ektare <subhash_ektare@ ...> wrote: > > > > Subhash Ektare <subhash_ektare@ ...> > > Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa > > @gro ups.com > > Monday, 27 October, 2008, 11:20 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members and Learned Gurujis, > >  > > I totally agree with Dr. Luther Rath. Members are wise enough to > choose > > any theory which gives him accuracy in prediction. However if any > member > > wants to prove superiority and/or accuracy of any perticular theory > he is free > > to analyze few charts and present his findings to the forum for > discussion. > >  > > As regards second issue of Mars Dosha is concerned, I have put > forth my > > views on the Article in the file section. Stalwaerts like > A.R.Raichur, Sunil > > Gondhalekar and L.Y.R. Lajmi have supported my views. If Mars Dosha > > does not exist as per KP, then what was the necessecity of the > analysis and > > the Article? And from where those " so called " 11 rules have come > from? > >  > > Dr. Luther Rath, the time and energy spent is to clear the > confusions not > > increasing it. > >  > > Any way as suggested by Dr. Luther Rath, I am leaving this thread > for > > members to arrive at their own conclusion. > >  > > Regards, > > Subhash Ektare > > > > > > > > > > > > Luther Rath <rathluther> > > @gro ups.com > > Sunday, October 26, 2008 10:19:36 PM > > Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Gurujis, > > I think we are on the way of individualising the asience of > astrology with out considering the accuracy in prediction. Parasara > then KSK the DR. Kar and then others, I mean to say, traditional > propounded by the sages, the stellar and sub theory propounded by > KSK, the sub-sub theory propounded by Dr. Kar followed by sub-sub- sub > theories the sub-sub-sub- sub- +++ theories and so on. I think we > should honour all who have made an attempt to research and find out > the more accurate methods. With out critising the individuals and the > theories we have to change aour attitude. I would rather suggest Sri > Mahan Kumarji to take at least one horoscope and predict a paricular > event in the life of the native. I would request him to predict > according to traditional systen, according to KSK Stellar System and > also according to Dr. Kar's Sub-Sub theory seperately. One has to > find out if the three syatems give the same result, which one is > easier and which one is accurate. > > All three predictions are to be done by the same person only ao > that the knoledge, the proficiency the idea the thout process would > not differ in prediction. Its simply futile to ponder in the dark. > The discussions should be productive and result oriented. I may not > be mis understand. > > The other issue is 'Mars Dosha " It is also gowing in a wrong way. > We have to realise the waste of time and energy in increasing > confussions. > > With regards. > > Dr. Luther Rath. > > > > > > > > > > Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrology@ > > > @gro ups.com > > Saturday, October 25, 2008 10:51:54 PM > > Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tin Win Sir, > > It seems that you are not for any of Dr.KAR's ideas. It's okay. Let > it be my piece of cake. > > I consider Dr.KAR's approach simpler than that of KSK in some > respects, though the former has taken a deeper step, of course, based > on the latter's. > > Nevertheless, I don't expect any approach to be absolutely > consistent, nor do I claim Dr.Kar's is. > > I admire his findings on the ground that he, at this age and living > in a remote village, without the use of any modern gadgets like > computers, but for a 10-digit ordinary calculator, can do research to > such an extent. > > Who else other than Dr.KAR, do you think, can have the guts to > say: " KSK's Sublord Theory is like an old model car of 1920s, while > my SubSub Theory is like the one of modern technology of today. " > This, he has written in his letter to me ( in 2002). > > These words are not to be mistaken in any sense as humiliating KP > or anything like that. No, not at all. These strong words only reveal > the confidence he had in his own approach. It is quite natural that > anyone who has put in so much study and experiment would certainly > boast of the results when it really works for him. > > We may not get correctly sometimes.May be that is because we are > not able to get to the core of his teachings. > > Most of us are just used to saying very easily - 'This does not > work, that does not work.. " and so on. This kind of thinking will be > good only when we ourselves can come out with a better solution for > the problems we see in other's findings. > > Until then, it is better to be convinced with an idea to the extent > we can accept the same. If we are not convinced really, we have to go > on looking for somebody else to feed us in a better way. > > Let us all take it easy. > > > > With thanks and warm regards, > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.) > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based) > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006 > > Cell: 99443-07025 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853 > > > @gro ups.com > > Saturday, October 25, 2008 4:11:15 PM > > Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > > > Dear Mohan Kumar Ragunathan, > > > > Is his approach is simple? > > Is his approach is consistent without exceptions? > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > tw > > > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Of course again, it is only about the particular issue of subject > > matter, namely " Vimshottari Dasa " , the said person is referred to. > He > > does have many other subject matters to his credit, not to mention > > them. > > > > > > With thanks and warm regards, > > > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.) > > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor > > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based) > > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006 > > > Cell: 99443-07025 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > tw853 <tw853@> > > > @gro ups.com > > > Saturday, October 25, 2008 6:32:36 AM > > > Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > > > > Discussion is supposed to be on the issue not on the person. > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > > > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > Of course, it is only " Dr.Kar's Dream Theory " and none other's. > > > > It is not an absolute necessity for anyone to appreciate or > > applaud > > > the great researcher's own ideas, that too, not when he is no > more. > > > > Nobody existing on this planet knows about Parashara's > > originality > > > and individuality in this regard. > > > > But it is a fact that we know about, at least, one person on > this > > earth > > > > who existed in the recent past who could think about it and > give > > an > > > idea. > > > > > > > > With thanks and warm regards, > > > > > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.) > > > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor > > > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based) > > > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006 > > > > Cell: 99443-07025 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@ ..> > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Cc: Kanak Bosmia <loger@ ...>; Mr.A.R.Raichur > > <raichurar@ ..> > > > > Friday, October 24, 2008 7:58:25 PM > > > > Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tin Win, > > > > Contrary to your " research paper " ,which, in > > my > > > opinion is not properly directed towards the effects of Mars > > Dosha,but > > > only towards the " existence " or otherwise of " Mars Dosha " ... Evil > > > effects of Mars Dosha DO EXIST/OCCUR ... even as per K.P. > > > Principles,as elaborated in ASTROSECRETS & K.P., by the late > eminent > > > astrologer and Guruji's Student, as well as Guruji himself > > originally, > > > Mars Dosha as per K.P., exists only when : > > > > Mars is in Sun's Star or own star,and occupying the houses > > > I,II,IV,VII, VIII & XII.. > > > > Mr.Subhash Ektare is very right,indeed, in > > my > > > humble opinion... > > > > What is desireable is a comprehensive study > > of > > > the occurence and effects of Mars Dosha,if any manifested in the > > > cases taken for analysis... > > > > I urge you and Mr.Bosmia to carry out such > > a > > > study... > > > > With best wishes, > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > tw853 <tw853 > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Friday, 24 October, 2008 6:04:09 PM > > > > Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > 1. It's Dr. Kar's dream theory in his last article > > in " KP & Astrology > > > > Year Book 2004 " pp 63-70 before he passed away. > > > > > > > > 2. With due respect to Dr. Kar, my personal view is that this > > theory > > > > does not seem like Maharshi Parashara's style of thinking as he > > > > explained Vimshotarri Dasa in Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra. > > > > > > > > 3. The Vimshotarri Dasa system does not seem to be directly > > derived > > > > from any celestial cycle or event. In spite of a variety of > > ingenious > > > > explanations, no one knows why each dasha was allocated in > > specific > > > > number of years , nor even why the planets were arranged in > their > > > > specific order. These rules have been accepted after verifying > > them > > > > through experience. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > > > > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > Being his last student by correspondence coaching, Dr.Pt.KAR > Ji > > has > > > > told me about this theory of his, which he called " My Dream > > > > Theory " and had worked on it for nearly two years. > > > > > You can find it in " KP & Astrology Year Book 2004 " . > > > > > I can send you a xerox copy of it by post, if i can have your > > > > address. > > > > > You may send it to my mail box, if you don't mind it. > > > > > > > > > > With thanks and warm regards, > > > > > > > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.) > > > > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor > > > > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based) > > > > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006 > > > > > Cell: 99443-07025 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pankaj Lakhlani <p_lakhlani2003@ ...> > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:17:31 PM > > > > > Re: Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir; > > > > > Please be kind and send a copy of the artical directly. When > > > > received through the group, the attachment was not sent along > > with. > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you in anticipation; > > > > > > > > > > Yours faithfully; > > > > > P Lakhlani > > > > > > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > > > Dear Gopalakrishnan, > > > > > The late Mr. K.R.Kar, a very > > > > eminent researcher and proloific writer on K.P., has explained > > the > > > > rationale of the Vimshottari Dasa...also I have not found the > > > > rationale for the Vimshottari Dasa in any of the Text Books of > > > > Traditional Astrology... > > > > > I am sending you his entire article > > > > which appeared in an Annual of the Magazine, K.P. & Astrology... > > > > > I hope that you will try to digest > > > > the substance of the article... > > > > > In my humble opinion,the article is > > > > simple and well-written and therefore,I do not expect you to > ask > > me > > > > any further queries on this subject... > > > > > With the very best wishes, > > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > Gopalakrishnan Subra Iyer <subragops3> > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > Wednesday, 22 October, 2008 10:19:47 AM > > > > > Vimshottari dasa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Learned members of this group, > > > > > > > > > > I have a very basic question regarding the Vimshottari Dasa. > > What > > > > is the rationale for giving 6 years to Sun, 10 years to moon, 7 > > years > > > > to Mars etc...? I'm sure there must be a valid reason for this > > type > > > > of allotment of different time frame to the nine planets. > > > > > > > > > > Please enlighten me with your thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > S.Gopalakrishnan > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. > Click > > > > here > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > http://messenger. / invite/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at http://in.messenger./?wm=n/ > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 1, 2008 Dear Tinwin Dasha bhukti antara plays prominant role which is why i always give prominance for the same. I have erected Natal chart of Mikhail Gorbachev as per Birth time rectification and found 18/19th August 1991 th eperiod of Downfall as Mars dasha started and Gorbachev was house arrested later he resigned for the President post. Sahhasra Saagara--- On Sat, 1/11/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote: tw853 <tw853 Re: Vimshottari dasa Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 8:06 AM Dear Sahhasra Saagara,1. That is what Mr.Pundareesh was lucky to make a sure prediction, as I remember one astrolger used to say like 'prediction by beating the dead bull after tying with the rope', with the full indication of all three 2,6,11 houses for financial gain.2. It can be seen how dasa is important by the down fall and no recovery of George W. Bush after entering the nasty Mercury Dasa as per both KP & Vedic.Regards,tw@gro ups.com, Sagar S <ssagar86@.. .> wrote:>> Dear Tinwin> Thanks for the reply.> Vaksiddhi has plays key role in so many great predictions , Many Editors of Astrological journals succeeded in national predictions/ international predictions but has failed in predicting many common peoples cases.> Even TV media astrologer too failed to prdict but still they are getting response as well as becoming famous.> I met Mr.Pundareesh in 1986 who was practicing KP then and erected my chart and predicted Ketu dahsa will be benefitted financially as it is in the sub of the Moon lord of 6th in the star of Jupiter lord of 2nd and 11th.> Though i have faced thyrosis in Ketu.Ketu.Ketu Moon period on 16th February 2005, but later i have experienced financial gains from April/May 2005 onwards .>  > Sahhasra Saagara> > --- On Wed, 29/10/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:> > tw853 <tw853> Re: Vimshottari dasa> @gro ups.com> Wednesday, 29 October, 2008, 9:22 PM> > > > > > > Dear Sahhasra Saagara,> > 1. That may be true. Shri Kuppu Ganapathi used to use good time and > Shri Raichur is wondering how does he choose such good time. Dr. B.V. > Raman became a world known astrologer by his 2nd world war > predictions. Many astrologers are successful for certain periods.> > 2. Regarding Ayanamsa, there is no confusion at all and it isn't a > big deal. Just to stick the one which is mostly fit to your > prediction techniques. How to check has been already discussed. For > instance, Raman Ayanamsa has been severely criticized by some Vedic > astrologers in favor of Lahiri but he made the world known > predictions using his own ayanamsa.> > Regards,> > tw> > @gro ups.com, Sagar S <ssagar86@ .> wrote:> >> > Dear friends> > Vaksiddhi and running dasha period of astrologer too will play key > role accurate predictrions in so many cases.> > I was using Local Panchanga/almanac in 1984-86, those days also i > have experienced accurate predictions when i was very amature, > ofcourse even now also i am a student of astrology.> > For me KP original ayanamsha has given accurate dasha period events > in so many cases , now almost all are using KPNA and now i am little > confussion.> > Sahhasra Saagara> > > > --- On Mon, 27/10/08, Subhash Ektare <subhash_ektare@ ...> wrote:> > > > Subhash Ektare <subhash_ektare@ ...>> > Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa> > @gro ups.com> > Monday, 27 October, 2008, 11:20 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members and Learned Gurujis,> >  > > I totally agree with Dr. Luther Rath. Members are wise enough to > choose> > any theory which gives him accuracy in prediction. However if any > member> > wants to prove superiority and/or accuracy of any perticular theory > he is free> > to analyze few charts and present his findings to the forum for > discussion.> >  > > As regards second issue of Mars Dosha is concerned, I have put > forth my > > views on the Article in the file section. Stalwaerts like > A.R.Raichur, Sunil > > Gondhalekar and L.Y.R. Lajmi have supported my views. If Mars Dosha> > does not exist as per KP, then what was the necessecity of the > analysis and > > the Article? And from where those "so called" 11 rules have come > from? > >  > > Dr. Luther Rath, the time and energy spent is to clear the > confusions not > > increasing it. > >  > > Any way as suggested by Dr. Luther Rath, I am leaving this thread > for> > members to arrive at their own conclusion.> >  > > Regards,> > Subhash Ektare> > > > > > > > > > > > Luther Rath <rathluther>> > @gro ups.com> > Sunday, October 26, 2008 10:19:36 PM> > Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Gurujis,> > I think we are on the way of individualising the asience of > astrology with out considering the accuracy in prediction. Parasara > then KSK the DR. Kar and then others, I mean to say, traditional > propounded by the sages, the stellar and sub theory propounded by > KSK, the sub-sub theory propounded by Dr. Kar followed by sub-sub-sub > theories the sub-sub-sub- sub- +++ theories and so on. I think we > should honour all who have made an attempt to research and find out > the more accurate methods. With out critising the individuals and the > theories we have to change aour attitude. I would rather suggest Sri > Mahan Kumarji to take at least one horoscope and predict a paricular > event in the life of the native. I would request him to predict > according to traditional systen, according to KSK Stellar System and > also according to Dr. Kar's Sub-Sub theory seperately. One has to > find out if the three syatems give the same result, which one is > easier and which one is accurate.> > All three predictions are to be done by the same person only ao > that the knoledge, the proficiency the idea the thout process would > not differ in prediction. Its simply futile to ponder in the dark. > The discussions should be productive and result oriented. I may not > be mis understand.> > The other issue is 'Mars Dosha" It is also gowing in a wrong way. > We have to realise the waste of time and energy in increasing > confussions.> > With regards.> > Dr. Luther Rath.> > > > > > > > > > Mohan Kumar Ragunathan <kpmk_astrology@ >> > @gro ups.com> > Saturday, October 25, 2008 10:51:54 PM> > Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > > > Dear Tin Win Sir,> > It seems that you are not for any of Dr.KAR's ideas. It's okay. Let > it be my piece of cake. > > I consider Dr.KAR's approach simpler than that of KSK in some > respects, though the former has taken a deeper step, of course, based > on the latter's.> > Nevertheless, I don't expect any approach to be absolutely > consistent, nor do I claim Dr.Kar's is.> > I admire his findings on the ground that he, at this age and living > in a remote village, without the use of any modern gadgets like > computers, but for a 10-digit ordinary calculator, can do research to > such an extent.> > Who else other than Dr.KAR, do you think, can have the guts to > say: "KSK's Sublord Theory is like an old model car of 1920s, while > my SubSub Theory is like the one of modern technology of today." > This, he has written in his letter to me ( in 2002).> > These words are not to be mistaken in any sense as humiliating KP > or anything like that. No, not at all. These strong words only reveal > the confidence he had in his own approach. It is quite natural that > anyone who has put in so much study and experiment would certainly > boast of the results when it really works for him. > > We may not get correctly sometimes.May be that is because we are > not able to get to the core of his teachings. > > Most of us are just used to saying very easily - 'This does not > work, that does not work.." and so on. This kind of thinking will be > good only when we ourselves can come out with a better solution for > the problems we see in other's findings. > > Until then, it is better to be convinced with an idea to the extent > we can accept the same. If we are not convinced really, we have to go > on looking for somebody else to feed us in a better way. > > Let us all take it easy.> > > > With thanks and warm regards,> > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> > Cell: 99443-07025 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853 >> > @gro ups.com> > Saturday, October 25, 2008 4:11:15 PM> > Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > Dear Mohan Kumar Ragunathan,> > > > Is his approach is simple?> > Is his approach is consistent without exceptions?> > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > tw> > > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Of course again, it is only about the particular issue of subject > > matter, namely "Vimshottari Dasa", the said person is referred to. > He > > does have many other subject matters to his credit, not to mention > > them.> > > > > > With thanks and warm regards,> > > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> > > Cell: 99443-07025> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > tw853 <tw853@>> > > @gro ups.com> > > Saturday, October 25, 2008 6:32:36 AM> > > Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > > Discussion is supposed to be on the issue not on the person.> > > > > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan> > > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Friends, > > > > Of course, it is only "Dr.Kar's Dream Theory" and none other's. > > > > It is not an absolute necessity for anyone to appreciate or > > applaud> > > the great researcher's own ideas, that too, not when he is no > more.> > > > Nobody existing on this planet knows about Parashara's > > originality> > > and individuality in this regard. > > > > But it is a fact that we know about, at least, one person on > this > > earth> > > > who existed in the recent past who could think about it and > give > > an> > > idea.> > > > > > > > With thanks and warm regards,> > > > > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> > > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> > > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> > > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> > > > Cell: 99443-07025> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@ ..>> > > > To: @gro ups.com> > > > Cc: Kanak Bosmia <loger@ ...>; Mr.A.R.Raichur > > <raichurar@ ..>> > > > Friday, October 24, 2008 7:58:25 PM> > > > Re: Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tin Win,> > > > Contrary to your "research paper",which, in > > my> > > opinion is not properly directed towards the effects of Mars > > Dosha,but> > > only towards the "existence" or otherwise of "Mars Dosha"... Evil> > > effects of Mars Dosha DO EXIST/OCCUR ... even as per K.P.> > > Principles,as elaborated in ASTROSECRETS & K.P., by the late > eminent> > > astrologer and Guruji's Student, as well as Guruji himself > > originally,> > > Mars Dosha as per K.P., exists only when :> > > > Mars is in Sun's Star or own star,and occupying the houses> > > I,II,IV,VII, VIII & XII..> > > > Mr.Subhash Ektare is very right,indeed, in > > my> > > humble opinion...> > > > What is desireable is a comprehensive study > > of> > > the occurence and effects of Mars Dosha,if any manifested in the> > > cases taken for analysis...> > > > I urge you and Mr.Bosmia to carry out such > > a> > > study...> > > > With best wishes,> > > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > tw853 <tw853 >> > > > @gro ups.com> > > > Friday, 24 October, 2008 6:04:09 PM> > > > Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > 1. It's Dr. Kar's dream theory in his last article > > in "KP & Astrology > > > > Year Book 2004" pp 63-70 before he passed away.> > > > > > > > 2. With due respect to Dr. Kar, my personal view is that this > > theory > > > > does not seem like Maharshi Parashara's style of thinking as he > > > > explained Vimshotarri Dasa in Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra. > > > > > > > > 3. The Vimshotarri Dasa system does not seem to be directly > > derived > > > > from any celestial cycle or event. In spite of a variety of > > ingenious > > > > explanations, no one knows why each dasha was allocated in > > specific > > > > number of years , nor even why the planets were arranged in > their > > > > specific order. These rules have been accepted after verifying > > them > > > > through experience.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > tw> > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan > > > > <kpmk_astrology@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sir,> > > > > Being his last student by correspondence coaching, Dr.Pt.KAR > Ji > > has > > > > told me about this theory of his, which he called "My Dream > > > > Theory"and had worked on it for nearly two years.> > > > > You can find it in "KP & Astrology Year Book 2004".> > > > > I can send you a xerox copy of it by post, if i can have your > > > > address.> > > > > You may send it to my mail box, if you don't mind it.> > > > > > > > > > With thanks and warm regards,> > > > > > > > > > MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)> > > > > Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor> > > > > Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)> > > > > 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006> > > > > Cell: 99443-07025> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pankaj Lakhlani <p_lakhlani2003@ ...>> > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:17:31 PM> > > > > Re: Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir;> > > > > Please be kind and send a copy of the artical directly. When > > > > received through the group, the attachment was not sent along > > with.> > > > > > > > > > Thanking you in anticipation;> > > > > > > > > > Yours faithfully;> > > > > P Lakhlani> > > > > > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > > > > Dear Gopalakrishnan,> > > > > The late Mr. K.R.Kar, a very > > > > eminent researcher and proloific writer on K.P., has explained > > the > > > > rationale of the Vimshottari Dasa...also I have not found the > > > > rationale for the Vimshottari Dasa in any of the Text Books of > > > > Traditional Astrology...> > > > > I am sending you his entire article > > > > which appeared in an Annual of the Magazine, K.P. & Astrology...> > > > > I hope that you will try to digest > > > > the substance of the article...> > > > > In my humble opinion,the article is > > > > simple and well-written and therefore,I do not expect you to > ask > > me > > > > any further queries on this subject...> > > > > With the very best wishes,> > > > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > Gopalakrishnan Subra Iyer <subragops3>> > > > > @gro ups.com> > > > > Wednesday, 22 October, 2008 10:19:47 AM> > > > > Vimshottari dasa> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Learned members of this group,> > > > > > > > > > I have a very basic question regarding the Vimshottari Dasa. > > What > > > > is the rationale for giving 6 years to Sun, 10 years to moon, 7 > > years > > > > to Mars etc...? I'm sure there must be a valid reason for this > > type > > > > of allotment of different time frame to the nine planets.> > > > > > > > > > Please enlighten me with your thoughts.> > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > S.Gopalakrishnan > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. > Click > > > > here> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > http://messenger. / invite/> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 25, 2009 is it true that for instance if rahu combines with a benefic like venus in rashi chart then vimshottari dasa of rahu will give the effects of venus? if so, then will the results of venus and not rahu be given in other division charts too even if they are not combined together like in rashi chart during rahu dasa? i hope my question be it a silly one is clear. i would love it if i am guided in this regard. thanks a lot Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 25, 2009 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Risabh , Not only for Rahu. Normally planet give effect of yuti planet, but yes for Nodes its like complete exchange. This is also from Parasara (second book) and Bhavatna Ratnakar. Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa.com rafal is it true that for instance if rahu combines with a benefic like venus in rashi chart then vimshottari dasa of rahu will give the effects of venus? if so, then will the results of venus and not rahu be given in other division charts too even if they are not combined together like in rashi chart during rahu dasa? i hope my question be it a silly one is clear. i would love it if i am guided in this regard. thanks a lot Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 25, 2009 thanks a lot so incase of venus and rahu conjunction in rashi chart, rahu dasha will give effect of venus. so in any divisional chart like d-9 will results of rahu be seen or that of venus? , Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*/ > Dear Risabh , > > Not only for Rahu. Normally planet give effect of yuti planet, but yes > for Nodes its like complete exchange. > > This is also from Parasara (second book) and Bhavatna Ratnakar. > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Jyotish Guru > -------------- > /*Consultations & Pages* > http://rohinaa.com > rafal/ > > > > is it true that for instance if rahu combines with a benefic like > > venus in rashi chart then vimshottari dasa of rahu will give the > > effects of venus? if so, then will the results of venus and not rahu > > be given in other division charts too even if they are not combined > > together like in rashi chart during rahu dasa? i hope my question be > > it a silly one is clear. i would love it if i am guided in this regard. > > thanks a lot > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 25, 2009 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Risabh , No. I have Ketu with Mangal in D1. Ketu dasa will be like Mangal dasa, but in D3(So) I have Ketu in Shukra Rasi, so Ketu dasa will be like Shukra dasa and vice versa. Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa.com rafal thanks a lot so incase of venus and rahu conjunction in rashi chart, rahu dasha will give effect of venus. so in any divisional chart like d-9 will results of rahu be seen or that of venus? @ . com, RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* / > Dear Risabh , > > Not only for Rahu. Normally planet give effect of yuti planet, but yes > for Nodes its like complete exchange. > > This is also from Parasara (second book) and Bhavatna Ratnakar. > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Jyotish Guru > ------------ -- > /*Consultations & Pages* > http://rohinaa. com > rafal/ > > > > is it true that for instance if rahu combines with a benefic like > > venus in rashi chart then vimshottari dasa of rahu will give the > > effects of venus? if so, then will the results of venus and not rahu > > be given in other division charts too even if they are not combined > > together like in rashi chart during rahu dasa? i hope my question be > > it a silly one is clear. i would love it if i am guided in this regard. > > thanks a lot > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 25, 2009 sir got it now.. thanks a lot kindly respond to my karakamsa query, time permitting. sincerely Rishabh , Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*/ > Dear Risabh , > > No. I have Ketu with Mangal in D1. Ketu dasa will be like Mangal dasa, > but in D3(So) I have Ketu in Shukra Rasi, so Ketu dasa will be like > Shukra dasa and vice versa. > > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Jyotish Guru > -------------- > /*Consultations & Pages* > http://rohinaa.com > rafal/ > > > > thanks a lot > > so incase of venus and rahu conjunction in rashi chart, rahu dasha > > will give effect of venus. so in any divisional chart like d-9 will > > results of rahu be seen or that of venus? > > > > <%40>, RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* / > > > Dear Risabh , > > > > > > Not only for Rahu. Normally planet give effect of yuti planet, but yes > > > for Nodes its like complete exchange. > > > > > > This is also from Parasara (second book) and Bhavatna Ratnakar. > > > > > > Regards > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > SJC Jyotish Guru > > > ------------ -- > > > /*Consultations & Pages* > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com> > > > rafal@/ > > > > > > > > is it true that for instance if rahu combines with a benefic like > > > > venus in rashi chart then vimshottari dasa of rahu will give the > > > > effects of venus? if so, then will the results of venus and not rahu > > > > be given in other division charts too even if they are not combined > > > > together like in rashi chart during rahu dasa? i hope my question be > > > > it a silly one is clear. i would love it if i am guided in this > > regard. > > > > thanks a lot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 25, 2009 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear  Risabh, My friend got new good job offer today. Date:         September 1, 1983 Time:         6:14:26 Time Zone:    2:00:00 (East of GMT) Place:        19 E 03' 10", 50 N 17' 10" This is related to selling cars from other countries through water. Me-Ra-Su Me is in 5 from ALstrong in Rasi, so first part of dasa should be nice, the later is problematic due to position in d9. Ra gives effect of Mo!. 12L shows selling, through water (Mo) of cars (Shukra sign). Su gives effect of Simhasana yoga - Shukra. Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa.com rafal sir got it now.. thanks a lot kindly respond to my karakamsa query, time permitting. sincerely Rishabh @ . com, RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* / > Dear Risabh , > > No. I have Ketu with Mangal in D1. Ketu dasa will be like Mangal dasa, > but in D3(So) I have Ketu in Shukra Rasi, so Ketu dasa will be like > Shukra dasa and vice versa. > > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Jyotish Guru > ------------ -- > /*Consultations & Pages* > http://rohinaa. com > rafal/ > > > > thanks a lot > > so incase of venus and rahu conjunction in rashi chart, rahu dasha > > will give effect of venus. so in any divisional chart like d-9 will > > results of rahu be seen or that of venus? > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* / > > > Dear Risabh , > > > > > > Not only for Rahu. Normally planet give effect of yuti planet, but yes > > > for Nodes its like complete exchange. > > > > > > This is also from Parasara (second book) and Bhavatna Ratnakar. > > > > > > Regards > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > SJC Jyotish Guru > > > ------------ -- > > > /*Consultations & Pages* > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> > > > rafal@/ > > > > > > > > is it true that for instance if rahu combines with a benefic like > > > > venus in rashi chart then vimshottari dasa of rahu will give the > > > > effects of venus? if so, then will the results of venus and not rahu > > > > be given in other division charts too even if they are not combined > > > > together like in rashi chart during rahu dasa? i hope my question be > > > > it a silly one is clear. i would love it if i am guided in this > > regard. > > > > thanks a lot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 25, 2009 i saw the chart and understood the principle thoroughly. thanks for your help , Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*/ > Dear Risabh, > > My friend got new good job offer today. > > > September 1, 1983 > Time: 6:14:26 > Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 19 E 03' 10 " , 50 N 17' 10 " > > > This is related to selling cars from other countries through water. > > Me-Ra-Su > > Me is in 5 from ALstrong in Rasi, so first part of dasa should be nice, > the later is problematic due to position in d9. > > Ra gives effect of Mo!. 12L shows selling, through water (Mo) of cars > (Shukra sign). > > Su gives effect of Simhasana yoga - Shukra. > > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Jyotish Guru > -------------- > /*Consultations & Pages* > http://rohinaa.com > rafal/ > > > > sir > > got it now.. thanks a lot > > kindly respond to my karakamsa query, time permitting. > > sincerely > > Rishabh > > > > <%40>, RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* / > > > Dear Risabh , > > > > > > No. I have Ketu with Mangal in D1. Ketu dasa will be like Mangal dasa, > > > but in D3(So) I have Ketu in Shukra Rasi, so Ketu dasa will be like > > > Shukra dasa and vice versa. > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > SJC Jyotish Guru > > > ------------ -- > > > /*Consultations & Pages* > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com> > > > rafal@/ > > > > > > > > thanks a lot > > > > so incase of venus and rahu conjunction in rashi chart, rahu dasha > > > > will give effect of venus. so in any divisional chart like d-9 will > > > > results of rahu be seen or that of venus? > > > > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, RafaÅ‚ Gendarz > > <starsuponme@ ...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* / > > > > > Dear Risabh , > > > > > > > > > > Not only for Rahu. Normally planet give effect of yuti planet, > > but yes > > > > > for Nodes its like complete exchange. > > > > > > > > > > This is also from Parasara (second book) and Bhavatna Ratnakar. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > SJC Jyotish Guru > > > > > ------------ -- > > > > > /*Consultations & Pages* > > > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com>> > > > > > rafal@/ > > > > > > > > > > > > is it true that for instance if rahu combines with a benefic like > > > > > > venus in rashi chart then vimshottari dasa of rahu will give the > > > > > > effects of venus? if so, then will the results of venus and > > not rahu > > > > > > be given in other division charts too even if they are not > > combined > > > > > > together like in rashi chart during rahu dasa? i hope my > > question be > > > > > > it a silly one is clear. i would love it if i am guided in this > > > > regard. > > > > > > thanks a lot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 26, 2009 Namaste Rafal As you mentioned in the example, that the later part of the dasa will be problem due to d9 position of merc. Is it always the case that for any MD or AD, the first part is the effect given by planet in rasi and second part is due to D9? Also in the chart yuo provided which udu dasa you are using? In vimsottari I am getting Jup MD. -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Thu, 26/2/09, Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: Rafał Gendarz <starsuponmeRe: [Om Krishna Guru] vimshottari dasa Date: Thursday, 26 February, 2009, 3:33 AM om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Risabh,My friend got new good job offer today. September 1, 1983Time: 6:14:26Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 19 E 03' 10", 50 N 17' 10"This is related to selling cars from other countries through water.Me-Ra-SuMe is in 5 from ALstrong in Rasi, so first part of dasa should be nice, the later is problematic due to position in d9.Ra gives effect of Mo!. 12L shows selling, through water (Mo) of cars (Shukra sign).Su gives effect of Simhasana yoga - Shukra.RegardsRafal GendarzSJC Jyotish Guru------------ --Consultations & Pageshttp://rohinaa. comrafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com sirgot it now.. thanks a lot kindly respond to my karakamsa query, time permitting.sincerelyRishabh, RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...>wrote:>> /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* /> Dear Risabh ,> > No. I have Ketu with Mangal in D1. Ketu dasa will be like Mangal dasa, > but in D3(So) I have Ketu in Shukra Rasi, so Ketu dasa will be like > Shukra dasa and vice versa.> > > Regards> Rafal Gendarz> SJC Jyotish Guru> ------------ --> /*Consultations & Pages*> http://rohinaa. com> rafal/> >> > thanks a lot> > so incase of venus and rahu conjunction in rashi chart, rahu dasha> > will give effect of venus. so in any divisional chart like d-9 will> > results of rahu be seen or that of venus?> > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, RafaÅ‚ Gendarz<starsuponme@ ...>> > wrote:> > >> > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* /> > > Dear Risabh ,> > >> > > Not only for Rahu. Normally planet give effect of yuti planet,but yes> > > for Nodes its like complete exchange.> > >> > > This is also from Parasara (second book) and Bhavatna Ratnakar.> > >> > > Regards> > > Rafal Gendarz> > > SJC Jyotish Guru> > > ------------ --> > > /*Consultations & Pages*> > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com>> > > rafal@/> > > >> > > > is it true that for instance if rahu combines with a benefic like> > > > venus in rashi chart then vimshottari dasa of rahu will give the> > > > effects of venus? if so, then will the results of venus andnot rahu> > > > be given in other division charts too even if they are notcombined> > > > together like in rashi chart during rahu dasa? i hope myquestion be> > > > it a silly one is clear. i would love it if i am guided in this> > regard.> > > > thanks a lot> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> Check out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 26, 2009 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Rajarishi , 1. Yes, I think its from Jataka parijata. 2. Shastihayani of course. Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru -------------- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa.com rafal Namaste Rafal  As you mentioned in the example, that the later part of the dasa will be problem due to d9 position of merc. Is it always the case that for any MD or AD, the first part is the effect given by planet in rasi and second part is due to D9?  Also in the chart yuo provided which udu dasa you are using? In vimsottari I am getting Jup MD.  -Regards  Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra --- On Thu, 26/2/09, Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> wrote: Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] vimshottari dasa Thursday, 26 February, 2009, 3:33 AM om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear  Risabh, My friend got new good job offer today. Date:         September 1, 1983 Time:         6:14:26 Time Zone:    2:00:00 (East of GMT) Place:        19 E 03' 10", 50 N 17' 10" This is related to selling cars from other countries through water. Me-Ra-Su Me is in 5 from ALstrong in Rasi, so first part of dasa should be nice, the later is problematic due to position in d9. Ra gives effect of Mo!. 12L shows selling, through water (Mo) of cars (Shukra sign). Su gives effect of Simhasana yoga - Shukra. Regards Rafal Gendarz SJC Jyotish Guru ------------ -- Consultations & Pages http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com sir got it now.. thanks a lot kindly respond to my karakamsa query, time permitting. sincerely Rishabh @ . com, RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* / > Dear Risabh , > > No. I have Ketu with Mangal in D1. Ketu dasa will be like Mangal dasa, > but in D3(So) I have Ketu in Shukra Rasi, so Ketu dasa will be like > Shukra dasa and vice versa. > > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > SJC Jyotish Guru > ------------ -- > /*Consultations & Pages* > http://rohinaa. com > rafal/ > > > > thanks a lot > > so incase of venus and rahu conjunction in rashi chart, rahu dasha > > will give effect of venus. so in any divisional chart like d-9 will > > results of rahu be seen or that of venus? > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, RafaÅ‚ Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* / > > > Dear Risabh , > > > > > > Not only for Rahu. Normally planet give effect of yuti planet, but yes > > > for Nodes its like complete exchange. > > > > > > This is also from Parasara (second book) and Bhavatna Ratnakar. > > > > > > Regards > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > SJC Jyotish Guru > > > ------------ -- > > > /*Consultations & Pages* > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> > > > rafal@/ > > > > > > > > is it true that for instance if rahu combines with a benefic like > > > > venus in rashi chart then vimshottari dasa of rahu will give the > > > > effects of venus? if so, then will the results of venus and not rahu > > > > be given in other division charts too even if they are not combined > > > > together like in rashi chart during rahu dasa? i hope my question be > > > > it a silly one is clear. i would love it if i am guided in this > > regard. > > > > thanks a lot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
