Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ?

rafal

Visti Larsen pisze:

हरे राम कृष्ण

Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

One addition. Make sure you never advise the gemstone of the sixth lord

if you want the persons mantra to be strong. Just don't advise it even

if well placed and well conjoined.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

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Rafal Gendarz skrev:

om namo bhagavate

narasimhaya

Dear Guruji, Namaskar

Why in Lagna/Tenth it would be good? Its still

dusthana lord in kendra - kind of duryoga per Phaldeepika.

Can I finally get the answer why Coral is good for Narasimha Rao? As

the more mails the things are more complicated.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

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Visti Larsen pisze:

हरे राम कृष्ण

Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

Now your getting it. See that its not always good to give the conjoined

gemstone as it can bring problems, and we cannot do so blindly.

Also in the example you cited of Moon and Sun joined for Pisces Lagna,

there is a similar dilemma as the Sun in such a combination can

increase enmity and such sixth house problems depending on placement.

Therefore in the example you gave if the two were joined in the sixth,

eighth or twelfth house then wearing a Ruby is a big NONO. Especially

if the person is born on a Monday or Sunday it would horrible for the

health.

Instead if joined in the Lagna or tenth house it would prove to be

excellent and also increase longevity.

If the two are in planetary war then there is no doubt, i.e. don't

cause the war to be lost by a graha lording a trikona by wearing the

other grahas gemstone.

So your right. Yuti is not the rule - by itself as if such a

combination is badly placed it would be devastating to wear such a

gemstone.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

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Rafal Gendarz skrev:

om namo bhagavate

narasimhaya

Dear Rajarishi , Namaskar

Page 345/346 VRA. To ensure winning the battle Sanjyaji perscribes gem

signified by Lagnesh. Here Shukra Lagnadhipati is conjoined Budha, but

still

the choice is on Diamond, not Emerald (Budha is 6L). Based on that we

see that yuti is not the rule, therefore we cant say that Coral was

good for Narasimha Rao

as it gives results of Bhadra yoga as it is opposite to previous

teachings and examples.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

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rajarshi nandy pisze:

Dear Rafal

I have been trying to follow this excahnge of

mails

and

getting a little confused. You said:

So far I have seen

Sanjayji

never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to trikona lords

Do you mean when there is

ANY

yuti

between trikona lord and any other lord OR only trikona and dusthana

lord?

-Regards

Rajarshi

The

upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra

--- On Thu, 18/12/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>

wrote:

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal

charts ?

Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 6:25 PM

om

namo

bhagavate narasimhaya

Dear Chandan, Namaskar

So

far

I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to

trikona lords. Its also hard to seen if person is spiritual or not,

after all dharma

is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage, progeny,

social values etc - big parts of life for materialists.

When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much attention

Sanjayji places towards so called temporal malefics - here Mangal is

definitely temporal malefic

and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we use only

parivartana for gems then based solely on this principle advising Coral

is quite unfortunate decision.

Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its dominated by

Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and tatkalika sambandha here.

So its badly placed by lordship, sambandha

and placement from AL. So Coral is worst.

More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits in 2H in

D3 (Sn).

What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad which

Mangal gives here?

OR

we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon for Meena

Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

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chandan486 pisze:

||aum namah shivaya||

Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti,

Namaste.

I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal and you

two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details.

Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal chart

analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i seem to be

correct about the advise for a Red Coral.

1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which can be seen

from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged.

Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have conjoined ,

Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones adjacent to

it , those ayanas will get exchanged.

This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - Kama and

Pisces - Moksha.

Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones adjacent to it

get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and Cancer -

Moksha ..

The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to yuti is

Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a political leader

and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana .

So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised.

Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which Zoran already

mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with nothing to

obstruct.

Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which anyways is

more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala prevails.

2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is Varki ..

Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good idea , as it

only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is best

choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa.

I think i made a pretty neat assemement.

Comments Please !!

humble regards,

Chandan S Sabarwal.

, Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme@ ...>

wrote:

>

> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> Dear Zoranji , Namaskar

>

> Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral then the

answer was:

>

> Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

> Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do

gemstones.

Does

> that clarify?

> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

>

> Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana.

>

> June 28, 1921

> Time: 12:49:00

> Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT)

> Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00"

>

> In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is third and

eight

> lord, so the question is the same :

>

> a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon and Surya

yuti

> we perscribe Ruby

>

> or

>

> b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for Narasimha Rao?

>

> If there is no answer to this simple question then just admit it

and

> please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

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> rafal

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> ------------ --------- --------

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> rafal

>

> ahimsavm pisze:

> >

> > Om Namah Shivaya,

> > Dear Rafal,

> > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has very

> > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are

reversed,

> > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we

subsitute

the

> > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing their

> > signification, since one pada of dharma remains uninfluenced.

So,

> > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in Full

> > reversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji recommending

the

change

> > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th house

and

> > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani and

Shukra.

> > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji

recommended

> > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra specifically.

This

was

> > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well.

> > Best wishes

> > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > www.siva-edu.

info

> > www.ahimsazr1.

wordpress. com

> >

> > <srijagannat

h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme@ >

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar

> > >

> > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem

based on

yuti

> > or

> > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its

also for

> > yuti, now

> > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord

is with

> > Shani

> > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti

graha

Shani

> > will

> > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the

yuti graha

> > which is

> > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya.

> > >

> > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign

? How

can

> > you

> > > perscribe 6L gem?

> > >

> > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be

done

ONLY

> > in

> > > PARIVARTANA. "

> > >

> > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao?

> > >

> > > Or I have missed something?

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > ------------ --------- --------

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> > > rafal@

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen pisze:

> > > >

> > > > ??? ??? ?????

> > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

> > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord?

That would

> > give

> > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points

that Zoki

is

> > > > rising here.

> > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> > > > www: http://srigaruda.

com <http://srigaruda.

com>

> > > > @: visti@

> > > >

> > > > ahimsavm skrev:

> > > >

> > > >> Om Namah Shivaya,

> > > >> Dear Rafal,

> > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is

correct. However,

this

> > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in

PARIVARTANA. If you

> > have

> > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I

would never

> > prescribe

> > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed

in 8th house.

In

> > that

> > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for

health.

> > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it

would block the

> > Shani

> > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case

Surja should be

in

> > good

> > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another

possibility is MOti

> > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very

good for Mangal

and

> > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the

rise of bad

> > luck.

> > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal

placement in the

chart.

> > > >> Best wishes

> > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic

> > > >> www.siva-edu. info

> > > >> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com

> > > >>

> > <srijagannat

h%40. com>

> > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal

Gendarz

> > <starsuponme@ >

> > > >> wrote:

> > > >> >

> > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Yes.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I

should perscribe

> > Neelam

> > > >> to

> > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal?

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Regards,

> > > >> > Rafal Gendarz

> > > >> > ------------ --------- --------

> > > >> > Consultations and Pages:

> > > >> > http://rohinaa.

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<http://rohinaa. com

> > <http://rohinaa.

com>>

> > > >> > rafal@

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze:

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > ??? ??? ?????

> > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.

> > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had

the parivartana done

> > > >> otherwise

> > > >> > > then he would not have cancer.

> > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was

solely caused by

> > Jupiter in

> > > >> this

> > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a

curse of mother from

past

> > life

> > > >> and

> > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu.

> > > >> > > Still the advise is the same.

> > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > >> > > ------------ --------- ---------

--------- ----

> > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda.

com <http://srigaruda.

com>

> > <http://srigaruda.

com <http://srigaruda.

com>>

> > > >> > > @: visti@

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev:

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > >> Dear Visti

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that

information. Really wonderful

> > mail.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person

who has been detected

with

> > > >> liver

> > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him

six months time to

live.

> > In

> > > >> his

> > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with

venus. Should he wear a

> > pokhraj

> > > >> instead

> > > >> > >> of diamond?

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look

and advice it woiuld be

> > great..

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977

> > > >> > >> 12:20 pm

> > > >> > >> calcutta

> > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi..

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> -Regards

> > > >> > >> Rajarshi

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> /*

> > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness)

is Bhairava - Shiva

Sutra*

> > > >> > >> */

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S

(trbac /<majastrbacastro@ >/*

> > > >> wrote:

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac

<majastrbacastro@ >

> > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru]

Re: Choosing gemstone on

> > > >> divisonal

> > > >> > >> charts ?

> > > >> > >>

> > <srijagannat

h%40. com>

> > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>

> > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008,

8:47 PM

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> WOW!

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your

email bellow is a "Marry

> > > >> Christmas

> > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance".

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it

with us!

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Warm Regards,

> > > >> > >> Maja Strbac

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti

Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

> > > >> com>/* wrote:

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

com>

> > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru]

Re: Choosing gemstone on

> > > >> > >> divisonal charts ?

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008,

7:09 AM

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> ??? ??? ?????

> > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

> > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in

full in my last mail, I

> > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one

shares, so here is what

> > > >> I

> > > >> > >> have learned and have to share.

> > > >> > >> I have gathered the following

rules reg. gemstones with

> > > >> time

> > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my

website for reference):

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or

gemstones belongs to the

> > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e.

Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect

> > > >> the

> > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when

a person may be

> > > >> making a

> > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them

to stick to the right

> > > >> one.

> > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones

to protect the body,

> > > >> there

> > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove

the protection of the

> > > >> body,

> > > >> > >> hence one should advise these

wisely.

> > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is

r/atna/ but does not

> > > >> literally

> > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer

to treasure, jewel,

> > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived

from the word /ra-/

> > > >> meaning a

> > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches.

(Monier-Williams)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically

refers to nine types of

> > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta

(pearl), vajra

> > > >> (diamond),

> > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga

(topaz), indrani-la

> > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire),

marakata (emerald), vaidu-

> > > >> rya

> > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and

gomeda (hessonite). /

> > > >> For the

> > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also

means nine in vedic

> > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been

translated as Topaz by

> > > >> most,

> > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta,

2007, p. 174) does

> > > >> state

> > > >> > >> that different colours of the

/pushpara-ga /can be

> > > >> regarded

> > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la

(sapphire) /or /padmara-ga

> > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the

/indrani-la

> > > >> (Sapphire) /we must

> > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e.

yellow) can be regarded

> > > >> as

> > > >> > >> giving the effects of

/pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence,

> > > >> whilst

> > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same

group of /indrani-la/ the

> > > >> > >> colour of them being different

also differentiates the

> > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly.

Details should be

> > > >> learned

> > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this

regard.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside

in the particle of a

ratna

> > > >> which

> > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks

or lines in it and has

no

> > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the

wearing of a ratna is

for

> > > >> the

> > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to

you and protecting you.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various

metals known as Dhatu.

Moon,

> > > >> Mars,

> > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the

Dhatu and among them Moon

> > > >> rules over

> > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the

earth, Saturn over the

> > raw

> > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons

whilst Ra-hu rules over

the

> > > >> rare

> > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum.

Hence, Moon is Ratna

ka-

> > > >> raka

> > > >> > >> and divisional charts as

Somanatha Drekkana and

Somanatha

> > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important

to judge the effect of

> > > >> gemstones.

> > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana

refers to ones karma and

this

> > > >> is

> > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the

Somanatha drekkana is apt

to

> > > >> judge

> > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones.

Specifically this divisional

> > chart

> > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses

it. Strong ojas can

grant

> > > >> fame,

> > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart

can be used to see ones

> > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality

where ones ojas is used.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones

is also known

> > > >> as /gunatmaka/,

> > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of

/guna/ or attributes.

Hence to

> > > >> > >> understand the effects of a

gemstone vis-a-vis other

> > > >> gemstones we

> > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also

used for other purposes

> > > >> and is

> > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic

numerology. This will be

> > explained

> > > >> > >> further below.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone

on can be understood

from

> > > >> Vedic

> > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay

Rath. The four fingers

> > > >> represent

> > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma

respectively for the

index,

> > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers.

No gem is advised on

the

> > > >> index

> > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking

moksha and increasing

ahamkara.

> > > >> The

> > > >> > >> following table has been culled

out of the same work.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ratna

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Finger

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ruby

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Pearl

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or

4^th from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Coral

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or

3^rd from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Emerald

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or

4^th from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Diamond

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or

4^th from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Hessonite

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or

4^th from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Cats eye

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or

3^rd from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that

gemstones can do great good

for

> > > >> the

> > > >> > >> human race and they have natural

(Naisargika)

> > > >> characteristics

> > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone.

Example: a lady wishing to

be

> > a

> > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from

wearing a pushpara-ga

> > > >> (topaz)

> > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire).

Similarly a person having

> > > >> cancer

> > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite

mrtyunjaya mantra.

These

> > > >> natural

> > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be

applied to all the

> > > >> gemstones and

> > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda

Purana.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha

(Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Graha

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ratna

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Translation

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Sun

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Padmara-ga

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ruby

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Moon

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mukta

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Pearl

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mars

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Vidruma

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Coral

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mercury

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Marakata

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Emerald

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Jupiter

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Venus

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Vajra

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Diamond

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Saturn

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Indrani-la

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Rahu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Gomeda

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Hessonite

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ketu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Cats eye

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it

comes to applying any

> > > >> advice and

> > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice

that I have gathered

from

> > my

> > > >> > >> teacher.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on

the first, fifth and

ninth

> > > >> house

> > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart.

These are the best

gemstones

> > > >> and

> > > >> > >> will support the native in their

purpose of life. The

first

> > > >> lord

> > > >> > >> protects the head and

intelligence, the fifth protects

the

> > > >> hands

> > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth

protects the legs, and hence

> > the

> > > >> > >> native will always select the

best path in life if the

> > > >> gemstone

> > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus

the ninth lord is the

most

> > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can

also be used to advise the

> > > >> best

> > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in

particular parts of the body.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth

house cause misfortune,

and in

> > > >> such

> > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Gemstone advised

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Saturn

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Rähu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ketu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Gold ring

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mars

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Pearl

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or

twelfth house lords

are

> > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife,

disease and loss

> > > >> respectively and

> > > >> > >> should not be worn.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> To both the above there are

exceptions which occur on

> > > >> account of

> > > >> > >> Yoga.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference:

Atri Classes)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by

affecting the four

ayana or

> > > >> goals

> > > >> > >> of the person's life namely

dharma, artha, ka-ma and

moksha

> > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second,

third or fourth pada

of a

> > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy

and watery signs

> > > >> respectively.

> > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana

yoga with another, then

the

> > > >> other

> > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana

of the former graha.

> > > >> Therefore,

> > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in

parivartana with the sixth lord

the

> > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should

be advised.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti

another graha it takes on

> > > >> three of

> > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other

graha. Which three ayana

> > > >> depends on

> > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha

sign ii) the two signs

> > > >> adjacent

> > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If

Sun is joined Venus

then

> > > >> Sun

> > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus.

In such a case should

Sun

> > be

> > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of

Capricorn then it would give

the

> > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due

to being in an earthy

> > > >> Navamsha,

> > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha

before is that of a fiery

sign

> > > >> and

> > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign,

the Sun would give the

> > > >> effects of

> > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and

ka-ma-ayana (airy) as

well,

> > > >> but

> > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery).

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then

the interchange of

effects

> > > >> will

> > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural

benefic/malefic

indications

> > > >> of

> > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter,

Saturn and Mercury join then

> > the

> > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest

benefic will interchange

> > > >> results,

> > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter

to interchange results

> > > >> whilst

> > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the

results of anyone.

Similarly

> > > >> apply

> > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more

grahas.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz.

Samdristi and

Parivartana

> > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account

for this purpose as

they

> > > >> only

> > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the

full four ayana of a

> > > >> graha, yet

> > > >> > >> are still applied when timing

events.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Va-rachakra

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> #

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Graha

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 1

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Sun

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 2

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Moon

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 3

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mars

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 4

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mercury

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 5

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Jupiter

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 6

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Venus

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 7

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Saturn

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 8

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Rähu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 9

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ketu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of

the sixth, eighth or

twelfth

> > > >> lords

> > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those

graha are causing

excessive

> > > >> > >> problems to the native. This

occurs when another graha

is

> > > >> causing

> > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus

denying it of its

> > positive

> > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath

was recalled to have

> > > >> given the

> > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a

Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in

the

> > > >> sixth

> > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth.

In that specific

scenario

> > > >> the

> > > >> > >> native was suffering on account

of repeated legal

battles.

> > > >> The

> > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu.

This is further

explained

> > > >> as:

> > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the

Simhasana bhavas (10^th ,

1^st or

> > > >> 5^th

> > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes

an eclipse on the third

> > > >> graha in

> > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz.

in the order of

weekdays

> > > >> the

> > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun,

hence when Rähu is in

the

> > > >> tenth

> > > >> > >> house the native will have

problems on account of the

house

> > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun

in their life.

Similarly

> > > >> if

> > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only

Mars is placed in the

fifth

> > > >> house

> > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship

of Jupiter will be

> > hampered.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in

matters of Jyotish, and

> > > >> this is

> > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles

in the Brighu Sutras.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Gunachakra

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> #

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Graha

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Guna

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 1

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Sun

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Satva

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 2

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Moon

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 3

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Jupiter

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 4

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Rähu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 5

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mercury

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Rajas

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 6

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Venus

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 7

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ketu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 8

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Saturn

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Tamas

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 9

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mars

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat

differently than the

> > > >> Varachakra.

> > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then

we can choose to lock or

> > > >> unlock

> > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth

or seventh graha in the

> > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example:

cancer and tumours are

> > > >> caused

> > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of

cancer-cells in the body and is

> > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted

Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the

> > > >> fourth

> > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who

can block the spread of

> > > >> cancer.

> > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease

wearing diamond is advised

> > > >> along

> > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly

Mars can cause nervous

> > > >> system

> > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the

likes, and to block

this

> > > >> issue

> > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised

along with the

Mrtyunjaya

> > > >> bijas.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Should a graha already be

blocking the native in one

aspect

> > > >> of

> > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th

graha) is required. I.e.

if

> > > >> for

> > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is

placed in Libra, the

native

> > > >> will

> > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease

on account of wrong

> > > >> application

> > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the

intellect can be deemed

as

> > > >> locked

> > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow

Topaz/Sapphire is advised.

Similarly

> > > >> if Moon

> > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no

ni-cha bhanga then a

Blue

> > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is

the seventh graha from

the

> > > >> Moon

> > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock

these negatives.

> > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more

applications of the

Gunachakra

> > > >> in this

> > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until

I have been presented

> > with

> > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to

share.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone

as per the Rashi chart

it

> > is

> > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the

Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein

graha

> > > >> lording

> > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to

the ojas in the body

and

> > > >> will

> > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality.

This gemstone is therefore

> > not

> > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord

of the twelfth as this

is

> > > >> the

> > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house

causing celibacy to

the

> > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and

eighth lords affect the

> > > >> partner

> > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those

gemstones should

preferably

> > > >> also

> > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third

lord's gem can increase

the

> > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and

advising this gemstone

> > > >> should

> > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of

the lagna lord is the

best

> > > >> and

> > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame.

Apply this advice

> > > >> intelligently.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight.

> > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > >> > >> ------------ --------- ---------

--------- ----

> > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda.

com

> > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev:

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya||

> > > >> > >>>

> > > >> > >>> dear visti,

> > > >> > >>> namaste.

> > > >> > >>>

> > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he

landed into troubles with the

> > > >> advent of

> > > >> > >>> Rahu

> > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now ,

but still you havent

> > > >> answered .. is

> > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each

other's gemstones ? or

is it

> > > >> real

> > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the

condition for gemtsone

> > > >> exchange !!

> > > >> > >>>

> > > >> > >>> however , first we need to

really understand , that

> > > >> conjunction

> > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave

like each other

completely ?

> > > >> or

> > > >> > >>> only do

> > > >> > >>> they give each others effects

in the dasha ?

> > > >> > >>>

> > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets

behave like each other ? then

> > > >> what does

> > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also

do the same ? if not the

> > > >> same , then

> > > >> > >>> whats different abt a

parivartana then a conj ?

> > > >> > >>>

> > > >> > >>> humble regards,

> > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal.

> > > >> > >>>

> > > >> > >>> @

. com

> > > >> > >>> <srijagannat h%40.

com>, Visti

Larsen

> > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote:

> > > >> > >>> >

> > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ?????

> > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee,

Namaskar.

> > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see

the legal issues and jail

time,

> > > >> but

> > > >> > >>> through his

> > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord

Maha Dasa of Mars he was

> > > >> untouched. It was

> > > >> > >>> not

> > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that

he saw problems, hence

pointing

> > > >> out

> > > >> > >>> clearly

> > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the

Coral during Mars mahadasa

was

> > > >> perfect

> > > >> > >>> advise...

> > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime

Minister after wearing it!

How

> > > >> many can

> > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of

a client attaining that once

> > > >> following a

> > > >> > >>> > remedial measure?

> > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti

Larsen

> > > >> > >>> > ------------ ---------

--------- --------- ----

> > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.

com/

> > <http://srigaruda.

com/>

> > > >> <http://srigaruda.

com/ <http://srigaruda.

com/>>>

> > > >> > >>> > @: visti@

> > > >> > >>> >

> > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:

> > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah

shivaya||

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti,

> > > >> > >>> > > namaste !

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are

right abt PV Narasimha going to jail

> > > >> and also

> > > >> > >>> being

> > > >> > >>> > > held up in

litigation (6th house effects) , that

> > > >> eventually

> > > >> > >>> came

> > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him ,

after some of his own party members

> > and

> > > >> > >>> associates

> > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused

him of bribery and even showed

the

> > > >> > >>> briefcase ,

> > > >> > >>> in

> > > >> > >>> > > which he was

actually deliveered INR 10 million .

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you

mentioned , that a red coral is

being

> > > >> > >>> advised to

> > > >> > >>> worn

> > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon

the conj of Mars and Mercury in

10th

> > > >> House ,

> > > >> > >>> merc

> > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i

cannt somehow comprehend the

basic

> > > >> theory

> > > >> > >>> behind

> > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i

still remember reading somehwere on

> > > >> your website

> > > >> > >>> where

> > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned ,

only complete parivartana is actual

> > > >> exhange of

> > > >> > >>> houses

> > > >> > >>> > > and not simply

conj....

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives

results of each others in

> > > >> Dasas's ... but

> > > >> > >>> actual

> > > >> > >>> > > potency and

maleficience / benificience is based

upon

> > > >> Rasi /

> > > >> > >>> Dasamasa !

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > how could some one

possibly advise a gemstone just

> > > >> based upon

> > > >> > >>> rasi and

> > > >> > >>> > > not even consider

damasa , especially when career

is

> > > >> > >>> concerend ?

> > > >> > >>> > > moreover , that

Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in

Narasimha's

> > > >> case ,

> > > >> > >>> somehow

> > > >> > >>> > > makes me believe ,

it should have been the Emerald

> > > >> that he

> > > >> > >>> should

> > > >> > >>> have

> > > >> > >>> > > worn and not the

red coral ...

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury

forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun ,

so

> > > >> once again

> > > >> > >>> emerald.

> > > >> > >>> > > i had always wanted

to pick up this thing with

out ,

> > > >> glad swee

> > > >> > >>> bought

> > > >> > >>> > > it up !!

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > humbly yours,

> > > >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal.

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> >

> > > >> > >>>

> > > >> > >>

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हरे राम कृष्ण

Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

You can give the gemstone for conjunction but its not always a good

idea. That should be clear for the third time now.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

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@: visti

Rafal Gendarz skrev:

om namo bhagavate

narasimhaya

Dear Guruji , Namaskar

Thank you, I know this.

I think everyone is confused due to this jumping between yuti and

parivartana.

Why not to make it clear?

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

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Consultations and Pages:

rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

Visti Larsen pisze:

हरे राम कृष्ण

Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

One addition. Make sure you never advise the gemstone of the sixth lord

if you want the persons mantra to be strong. Just don't advise it even

if well placed and well conjoined.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

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