Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ?

@: visti

chandan486 skrev:

||aum namah shivaya||

dear visti ,

namaste ...

First of all , thanks a lot for sharing all the invalueable info. but

after reading this , a simple question again pops up!!

1.If a person has mesha lagna and rahu is placed in 9th house ,

normally a Yellow sapphire would be advised , as you mentioned in the

article ..

but what if jupiter is conj sat ? then also would a yellow sapphire

be advised ? or based on conj , a blue sapphire would now be choice ?

and no unlock rahu in 9th house , a different gemstone based on

varachakra would be used ?

pls help clear thus understanding ,

humble regards,

chandan s sabarwal.

December 17, 2008

हरे राम कृष्ण

Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

The concept of a graha being well placed implies that its well placed

from Arudha Lagna also.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

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@: visti

chandan486 skrev:

||aum namah shivaya||

dear visti,

namaste.

after all the articles you mentioned about gemstones , would it also be

required to finally check the graha's placement from AL ? consdiering

the graha meets all the other requirements ?

Or if all the other requirements are met , placement from AL can be

ignored ?

humble regards,

chandan s sabarwal.

December 17, 2008

Om Namah Shivaya,

Dear Rafal,

What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, this

substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you have

let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never prescribe

Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. In that

case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health.

The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the Shani

and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be in good

realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti

(Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal and

also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad luck.

Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the chart.

Best wishes

Zoran Radosavljevic

, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme

wrote:

>

> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> Dear Guruji , Namaskar

>

> Yes.

>

> Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe Neelam

to

> give effect of bhagyesh Mangal?

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> -----------------------------

> Consultations and Pages:

<http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c

> rafal

>

> Visti Larsen pisze:

> >

> > ??? ??? ?????

> > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.

> > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done

otherwise

> > then he would not have cancer.

> > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by Jupiter in

this

> > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past life

and

> > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu.

> > Still the advise is the same.

> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > ----------

> > www: http://srigaruda.com

> > @: visti

> >

> > rajarshi nandy skrev:

> >

> >> Dear Visti

> >>

> >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful mail.

> >>

> >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected with

liver

> >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to live. In

his

> >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a pokhraj

instead

> >> of diamond?

> >>

> >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be great..

> >>

> >> 23rd march 1977

> >> 12:20 pm

> >> calcutta

> >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi..

> >>

> >> -Regards

> >> Rajarshi

> >>

> >> /*

> >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra*

> >> */

> >>

> >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S(trbac /<majastrbacastro/*

wrote:

> >>

> >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro

> >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on

divisonal

> >> charts ?

> >>

> >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM

> >>

> >> Om Gurave Namah

> >>

> >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste

> >>

> >> WOW!

> >>

> >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a " Marry

Christmas

> >> and a Happy New Year in advance " .

> >>

> >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us!

> >>

> >> Warm Regards,

> >> Maja Strbac

> >>

> >> Hari Om Tat Sat

> >>

> >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

com>/* wrote:

> >>

> >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

> >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on

> >> divisonal charts ?

> >>

> >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM

> >>

> >> ??? ??? ?????

> >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

> >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I

> >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what

I

> >> have learned and have to share.

> >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with

time

> >> (this will be republished on my website for reference):

> >>

> >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the

> >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect

the

> >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be

making a

> >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right

one.

> >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body,

there

> >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the

body,

> >> hence one should advise these wisely.

> >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not

literally

> >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel,

> >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/

meaning a

> >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams)

> >>

> >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of

> >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra

(diamond),

> >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la

> >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu-

rya

> >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite)./

For the

> >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic

> >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by

most,

> >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does

state

> >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be

regarded

> >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga

> >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la

(Sapphire) /we must

> >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded

as

> >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence,

whilst

> >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the

> >> colour of them being different also differentiates the

> >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be

learned

> >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard.

> >>

> >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna

which

> >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no

> >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for

the

> >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you.

> >>

> >> Ratnaka-raka

> >>

> >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon,

Mars,

> >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon

rules over

> >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the raw

> >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over the

rare

> >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna ka-

raka

> >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha

> >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of

gemstones.

> >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this

is

> >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to

judge

> >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional chart

> >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant

fame,

> >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones

> >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used.

> >>

> >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known

as /gunatmaka/,

> >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. Hence to

> >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other

gemstones we

> >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes

and is

> >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be explained

> >> further below.

> >>

> >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from

Vedic

> >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers

represent

> >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the index,

> >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the

index

> >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara.

The

> >> following table has been culled out of the same work.

> >>

> >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath)

> >>

> >> Ratna

> >>

> >> Finger

> >>

> >> Ruby

> >>

> >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >>

> >> Pearl

> >>

> >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index)

> >>

> >> Coral

> >>

> >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)

> >>

> >> Emerald

> >>

> >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> >>

> >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire

> >>

> >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >>

> >> Diamond

> >>

> >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >>

> >> Blue Sapphire

> >>

> >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> >>

> >> Hessonite

> >>

> >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> >>

> >> Cats eye

> >>

> >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)

> >>

> >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for

the

> >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika)

characteristics

> >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be a

> >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga

(topaz)

> >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having

cancer

> >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These

natural

> >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the

gemstones and

> >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana.

> >>

> >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55)

> >>

> >> Graha

> >>

> >> Ratna

> >>

> >> Translation

> >>

> >> Sun

> >>

> >> Padmara-ga

> >>

> >> Ruby

> >>

> >> Moon

> >>

> >> Mukta

> >>

> >> Pearl

> >>

> >> Mars

> >>

> >> Vidruma

> >>

> >> Coral

> >>

> >> Mercury

> >>

> >> Marakata

> >>

> >> Emerald

> >>

> >> Jupiter

> >>

> >> Pushpara-ga

> >>

> >> Yellow Topaz

> >>

> >> Venus

> >>

> >> Vajra

> >>

> >> Diamond

> >>

> >> Saturn

> >>

> >> Indrani-la

> >>

> >> Blue Sapphire

> >>

> >> Rahu

> >>

> >> Gomeda

> >>

> >> Hessonite

> >>

> >> Ketu

> >>

> >> Vaidu-rya

> >>

> >> Cats eye

> >>

> >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any

advice and

> >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from my

> >> teacher.

> >>

> >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth

house

> >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones

and

> >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The first

lord

> >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the

hands

> >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence the

> >> native will always select the best path in life if the

gemstone

> >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most

> >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the

best

> >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body.

> >>

> >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in

such

> >> cases reversal gems are advised.

> >>

> >> Graha in 9^th

> >>

> >> Gemstone advised

> >>

> >> Saturn

> >>

> >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies)

> >>

> >> Rähu

> >>

> >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz

> >>

> >> Ketu

> >>

> >> Gold ring

> >>

> >> Mars

> >>

> >> Pearl

> >>

> >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are

> >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss

respectively and

> >> should not be worn.

> >>

> >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on

account of

> >> Yoga.

> >>

> >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes)

> >>

> >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or

goals

> >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and moksha

> >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a

> >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs

respectively.

> >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the

other

> >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha.

Therefore,

> >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the

> >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised.

> >>

> >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on

three of

> >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana

depends on

> >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs

adjacent

> >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then

Sun

> >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun be

> >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the

> >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy

Navamsha,

> >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign

and

> >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the

effects of

> >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as well,

but

> >> not the moksha-ayana (watery).

> >>

> >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects

will

> >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications

of

> >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then the

> >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange

results,

> >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results

whilst

> >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly

apply

> >> this to conjunction of more grahas.

> >>

> >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana

> >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they

only

> >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a

graha, yet

> >> are still applied when timing events.

> >>

> >> Va-rachakra

> >>

> >> Table 4: Varachakra

> >>

> >> #

> >>

> >> Graha

> >>

> >> 1

> >>

> >> Sun

> >>

> >> 2

> >>

> >> Moon

> >>

> >> 3

> >>

> >> Mars

> >>

> >> 4

> >>

> >> Mercury

> >>

> >> 5

> >>

> >> Jupiter

> >>

> >> 6

> >>

> >> Venus

> >>

> >> 7

> >>

> >> Saturn

> >>

> >> 8

> >>

> >> Rähu

> >>

> >> 9

> >>

> >> Ketu

> >>

> >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth

lords

> >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive

> >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is

causing

> >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its positive

> >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have

given the

> >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the

sixth

> >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario

the

> >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles.

The

> >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained

as:

> >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , 1^st or

5^th

> >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third

graha in

> >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays

the

> >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the

tenth

> >> house the native will have problems on account of the house

> >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly

if

> >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth

house

> >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be hampered.

> >>

> >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and

this is

> >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras.

> >>

> >> Gunachakra

> >>

> >> Table 1: Gunachakra

> >>

> >> #

> >>

> >> Graha

> >>

> >> Guna

> >>

> >> 1

> >>

> >> Sun

> >>

> >> Satva

> >>

> >> 2

> >>

> >> Moon

> >>

> >> 3

> >>

> >> Jupiter

> >>

> >> 4

> >>

> >> Rähu

> >>

> >> 5

> >>

> >> Mercury

> >>

> >> Rajas

> >>

> >> 6

> >>

> >> Venus

> >>

> >> 7

> >>

> >> Ketu

> >>

> >> 8

> >>

> >> Saturn

> >>

> >> Tamas

> >>

> >> 9

> >>

> >> Mars

> >>

> >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the

Varachakra.

> >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or

unlock

> >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the

> >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are

caused

> >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is

> >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the

fourth

> >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of

cancer.

> >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised

along

> >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous

system

> >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this

issue

> >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya

bijas.

> >>

> >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect

of

> >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. if

for

> >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native

will

> >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong

application

> >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as

locked

> >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly

if Moon

> >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a Blue

> >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the

Moon

> >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives.

> >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra

in this

> >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented with

> >> them, this is what I have to share.

> >>

> >> Somanatha Drekkana

> >>

> >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it is

> >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein graha

lording

> >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body and

will

> >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore not

> >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is

the

> >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the

> >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the

partner

> >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably

also

> >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase the

> >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone

should

> >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best

and

> >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice

intelligently.

> >>

> >> Hope this helps to share insight.

> >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> >> www: http://srigaruda. com

> >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> >>

> >> chandan486 skrev:

> >>

> >>> ||aum namah shivaya||

> >>>

> >>> dear visti,

> >>> namaste.

> >>>

> >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the

advent of

> >>> Rahu

> >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent

answered .. is

> >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it

real

> >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone

exchange !!

> >>>

> >>> however , first we need to really understand , that

conjunction

> >>> actually makes planets behave like each other completely ?

or

> >>> only do

> >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ?

> >>>

> >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then

what does

> >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the

same , then

> >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ?

> >>>

> >>> humble regards,

> >>> Chandan S sabarwal.

> >>>

> >>> <%40>, Visti Larsen

> >>> <visti@> wrote:

> >>> >

> >>> > ??? ??? ?????

> >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar.

> >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time,

but

> >>> through his

> >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was

untouched. It was

> >>> not

> >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing

out

> >>> clearly

> >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was

perfect

> >>> advise...

> >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How

many can

> >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once

following a

> >>> > remedial measure?

> >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>

> >>> > @: visti@

> >>> >

> >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:

> >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya||

> >>> > >

> >>> > > dear swee and visti,

> >>> > > namaste !

> >>> > >

> >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail

and also

> >>> being

> >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that

eventually

> >>> came

> >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members and

> >>> associates

> >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the

> >>> briefcase ,

> >>> in

> >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million .

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being

> >>> advised to

> >>> worn

> >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th

House ,

> >>> merc

> >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic

theory

> >>> behind

> >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on

your website

> >>> where

> >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual

exhange of

> >>> houses

> >>> > > and not simply conj....

> >>> > >

> >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in

Dasas's ... but

> >>> actual

> >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon

Rasi /

> >>> Dasamasa !

> >>> > >

> >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just

based upon

> >>> rasi and

> >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is

> >>> concerend ?

> >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's

case ,

> >>> somehow

> >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald

that he

> >>> should

> >>> have

> >>> > > worn and not the red coral ...

> >>> > >

> >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so

once again

> >>> emerald.

> >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out ,

glad swee

> >>> bought

> >>> > > it up !!

> >>> > >

> >>> > > humbly yours,

> >>> > > chandan s sabarwal.

> >>> > >

> >>> >

> >>>

> >>

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December 17, 2008

हरे राम कृष्ण

Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would give

durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki is rising

here.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

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@: visti

ahimsavm skrev:

Om Namah Shivaya,

Dear Rafal,

What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, this

substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you have

let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never prescribe

Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. In that

case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health.

The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the Shani

and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be in good

realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti

(Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal and

also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad luck.

Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the chart.

Best wishes

Zoran Radosavljevic

,

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme

wrote:

>

> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> Dear Guruji , Namaskar

>

> Yes.

>

> Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe Neelam

to

> give effect of bhagyesh Mangal?

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> -----------------------------

> Consultations and Pages:

<http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c

> rafal

>

> Visti Larsen pisze:

> >

> > ??? ??? ?????

> > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.

> > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done

otherwise

> > then he would not have cancer.

> > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by Jupiter

in

this

> > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past

life

and

> > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu.

> > Still the advise is the same.

> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > ----------

> > www: http://srigaruda.com

> > @: visti

> >

> > rajarshi nandy skrev:

> >

> >> Dear Visti

> >>

> >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful

mail.

> >>

> >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected

with

liver

> >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to

live. In

his

> >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a

pokhraj

instead

> >> of diamond?

> >>

> >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be

great..

> >>

> >> 23rd march 1977

> >> 12:20 pm

> >> calcutta

> >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi..

> >>

> >> -Regards

> >> Rajarshi

> >>

> >> /*

> >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra*

> >> */

> >>

> >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S(trbac /<majastrbacastro/*

wrote:

> >>

> >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro

> >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on

divisonal

> >> charts ?

> >>

> >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM

> >>

> >> Om Gurave Namah

> >>

> >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste

> >>

> >> WOW!

> >>

> >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a "Marry

Christmas

> >> and a Happy New Year in advance".

> >>

> >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us!

> >>

> >> Warm Regards,

> >> Maja Strbac

> >>

> >> Hari Om Tat Sat

> >>

> >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

com>/* wrote:

> >>

> >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

> >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on

> >> divisonal charts ?

> >>

> >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM

> >>

> >> ??? ??? ?????

> >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

> >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I

> >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what

I

> >> have learned and have to share.

> >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with

time

> >> (this will be republished on my website for reference):

> >>

> >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the

> >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect

the

> >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be

making a

> >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right

one.

> >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body,

there

> >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the

body,

> >> hence one should advise these wisely.

> >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not

literally

> >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel,

> >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/

meaning a

> >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams)

> >>

> >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of

> >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra

(diamond),

> >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la

> >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu-

rya

> >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite)./

For the

> >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic

> >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by

most,

> >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does

state

> >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be

regarded

> >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga

> >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la

(Sapphire) /we must

> >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded

as

> >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence,

whilst

> >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the

> >> colour of them being different also differentiates the

> >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be

learned

> >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard.

> >>

> >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a

ratna

which

> >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no

> >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is

for

the

> >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you.

> >>

> >> Ratnaka-raka

> >>

> >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu.

Moon,

Mars,

> >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon

rules over

> >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the

raw

> >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over

the

rare

> >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna ka-

raka

> >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha

> >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of

gemstones.

> >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and

this

is

> >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to

judge

> >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional

chart

> >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can

grant

fame,

> >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones

> >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used.

> >>

> >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known

as /gunatmaka/,

> >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. Hence

to

> >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other

gemstones we

> >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes

and is

> >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be

explained

> >> further below.

> >>

> >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood

from

Vedic

> >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers

represent

> >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the

index,

> >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the

index

> >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing

ahamkara.

The

> >> following table has been culled out of the same work.

> >>

> >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath)

> >>

> >> Ratna

> >>

> >> Finger

> >>

> >> Ruby

> >>

> >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >>

> >> Pearl

> >>

> >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index)

> >>

> >> Coral

> >>

> >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)

> >>

> >> Emerald

> >>

> >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> >>

> >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire

> >>

> >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >>

> >> Diamond

> >>

> >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >>

> >> Blue Sapphire

> >>

> >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> >>

> >> Hessonite

> >>

> >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> >>

> >> Cats eye

> >>

> >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)

> >>

> >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for

the

> >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika)

characteristics

> >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to

be a

> >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga

(topaz)

> >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having

cancer

> >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These

natural

> >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the

gemstones and

> >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana.

> >>

> >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55)

> >>

> >> Graha

> >>

> >> Ratna

> >>

> >> Translation

> >>

> >> Sun

> >>

> >> Padmara-ga

> >>

> >> Ruby

> >>

> >> Moon

> >>

> >> Mukta

> >>

> >> Pearl

> >>

> >> Mars

> >>

> >> Vidruma

> >>

> >> Coral

> >>

> >> Mercury

> >>

> >> Marakata

> >>

> >> Emerald

> >>

> >> Jupiter

> >>

> >> Pushpara-ga

> >>

> >> Yellow Topaz

> >>

> >> Venus

> >>

> >> Vajra

> >>

> >> Diamond

> >>

> >> Saturn

> >>

> >> Indrani-la

> >>

> >> Blue Sapphire

> >>

> >> Rahu

> >>

> >> Gomeda

> >>

> >> Hessonite

> >>

> >> Ketu

> >>

> >> Vaidu-rya

> >>

> >> Cats eye

> >>

> >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any

advice and

> >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from

my

> >> teacher.

> >>

> >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and

ninth

house

> >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best

gemstones

and

> >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The

first

lord

> >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects

the

hands

> >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence

the

> >> native will always select the best path in life if the

gemstone

> >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most

> >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the

best

> >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body.

> >>

> >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and

in

such

> >> cases reversal gems are advised.

> >>

> >> Graha in 9^th

> >>

> >> Gemstone advised

> >>

> >> Saturn

> >>

> >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies)

> >>

> >> Rähu

> >>

> >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz

> >>

> >> Ketu

> >>

> >> Gold ring

> >>

> >> Mars

> >>

> >> Pearl

> >>

> >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are

> >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss

respectively and

> >> should not be worn.

> >>

> >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on

account of

> >> Yoga.

> >>

> >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes)

> >>

> >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana

or

goals

> >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and

moksha

> >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a

> >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs

respectively.

> >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then

the

other

> >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha.

Therefore,

> >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord

the

> >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised.

> >>

> >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on

three of

> >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana

depends on

> >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs

adjacent

> >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus

then

Sun

> >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun

be

> >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the

> >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy

Navamsha,

> >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery

sign

and

> >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the

effects of

> >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as

well,

but

> >> not the moksha-ayana (watery).

> >>

> >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of

effects

will

> >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic

indications

of

> >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then

the

> >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange

results,

> >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results

whilst

> >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone.

Similarly

apply

> >> this to conjunction of more grahas.

> >>

> >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and

Parivartana

> >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as

they

only

> >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a

graha, yet

> >> are still applied when timing events.

> >>

> >> Va-rachakra

> >>

> >> Table 4: Varachakra

> >>

> >> #

> >>

> >> Graha

> >>

> >> 1

> >>

> >> Sun

> >>

> >> 2

> >>

> >> Moon

> >>

> >> 3

> >>

> >> Mars

> >>

> >> 4

> >>

> >> Mercury

> >>

> >> 5

> >>

> >> Jupiter

> >>

> >> 6

> >>

> >> Venus

> >>

> >> 7

> >>

> >> Saturn

> >>

> >> 8

> >>

> >> Rähu

> >>

> >> 9

> >>

> >> Ketu

> >>

> >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or

twelfth

lords

> >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive

> >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is

causing

> >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its

positive

> >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have

given the

> >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in

the

sixth

> >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific

scenario

the

> >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal

battles.

The

> >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further

explained

as:

> >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , 1^st

or

5^th

> >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third

graha in

> >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of

weekdays

the

> >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in

the

tenth

> >> house the native will have problems on account of the

house

> >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life.

Similarly

if

> >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the

fifth

house

> >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be

hampered.

> >>

> >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and

this is

> >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras.

> >>

> >> Gunachakra

> >>

> >> Table 1: Gunachakra

> >>

> >> #

> >>

> >> Graha

> >>

> >> Guna

> >>

> >> 1

> >>

> >> Sun

> >>

> >> Satva

> >>

> >> 2

> >>

> >> Moon

> >>

> >> 3

> >>

> >> Jupiter

> >>

> >> 4

> >>

> >> Rähu

> >>

> >> 5

> >>

> >> Mercury

> >>

> >> Rajas

> >>

> >> 6

> >>

> >> Venus

> >>

> >> 7

> >>

> >> Ketu

> >>

> >> 8

> >>

> >> Saturn

> >>

> >> Tamas

> >>

> >> 9

> >>

> >> Mars

> >>

> >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the

Varachakra.

> >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or

unlock

> >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the

> >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are

caused

> >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is

> >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the

fourth

> >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of

cancer.

> >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised

along

> >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous

system

> >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block

this

issue

> >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the

Mrtyunjaya

bijas.

> >>

> >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one

aspect

of

> >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. if

for

> >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the

native

will

> >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong

application

> >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as

locked

> >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly

if Moon

> >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a Blue

> >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from

the

Moon

> >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives.

> >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra

in this

> >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented

with

> >> them, this is what I have to share.

> >>

> >> Somanatha Drekkana

> >>

> >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it

is

> >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein graha

lording

> >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body and

will

> >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore

not

> >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this

is

the

> >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the

> >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the

partner

> >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should

preferably

also

> >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase the

> >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone

should

> >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the

best

and

> >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice

intelligently.

> >>

> >> Hope this helps to share insight.

> >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> >> www: http://srigaruda.

com

> >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> >>

> >> chandan486 skrev:

> >>

> >>> ||aum namah shivaya||

> >>>

> >>> dear visti,

> >>> namaste.

> >>>

> >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with

the

advent of

> >>> Rahu

> >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent

answered .. is

> >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or

is it

real

> >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone

exchange !!

> >>>

> >>> however , first we need to really understand , that

conjunction

> >>> actually makes planets behave like each other

completely ?

or

> >>> only do

> >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ?

> >>>

> >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ?

then

what does

> >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not

the

same , then

> >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ?

> >>>

> >>> humble regards,

> >>> Chandan S sabarwal.

> >>>

> >>> <%40>,

Visti Larsen

> >>> <visti@> wrote:

> >>> >

> >>> > ??? ??? ?????

> >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar.

> >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and

jail time,

but

> >>> through his

> >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was

untouched. It was

> >>> not

> >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence

pointing

out

> >>> clearly

> >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars

mahadasa was

perfect

> >>> advise...

> >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing

it! How

many can

> >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that

once

following a

> >>> > remedial measure?

> >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>

> >>> > @: visti@

> >>> >

> >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:

> >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya||

> >>> > >

> >>> > > dear swee and visti,

> >>> > > namaste !

> >>> > >

> >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going

to jail

and also

> >>> being

> >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) ,

that

eventually

> >>> came

> >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party

members and

> >>> associates

> >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even

showed the

> >>> briefcase ,

> >>> in

> >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10

million .

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red

coral is being

> >>> advised to

> >>> worn

> >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and

Mercury in 10th

House ,

> >>> merc

> >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend

the basic

theory

> >>> behind

> >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading

somehwere on

your website

> >>> where

> >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana

is actual

exhange of

> >>> houses

> >>> > > and not simply conj....

> >>> > >

> >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in

Dasas's ... but

> >>> actual

> >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is

based upon

Rasi /

> >>> Dasamasa !

> >>> > >

> >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a

gemstone just

based upon

> >>> rasi and

> >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when

career is

> >>> concerend ?

> >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in

Narasimha's

case ,

> >>> somehow

> >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the

Emerald

that he

> >>> should

> >>> have

> >>> > > worn and not the red coral ...

> >>> > >

> >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the

Sun , so

once again

> >>> emerald.

> >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing

with out ,

glad swee

> >>> bought

> >>> > > it up !!

> >>> > >

> >>> > > humbly yours,

> >>> > > chandan s sabarwal.

> >>> > >

> >>> >

> >>>

> >>

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>

December 17, 2008

om namo bhagavate narasimhaya

Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar

The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on yuti or

parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for yuti, now

Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with Shani

its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha Shani will

work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha which

is 9L so getting out of durbhagya.

How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How can you

perscribe 6L gem?

Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems

can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. "

How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao?

Or I have missed something?

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

-----------------------------

Consultations and Pages:

rafal

Visti Larsen pisze:

हरे राम कृष्ण

Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would give

durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki is rising

here.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

----------

@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

ahimsavm skrev:

Om Namah Shivaya,

Dear Rafal,

What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, this

substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you have

let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never prescribe

Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. In that

case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health.

The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the Shani

and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be in good

realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti

(Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal and

also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad luck.

Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the chart.

Best wishes

Zoran Radosavljevic

,

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme

wrote:

>

> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> Dear Guruji , Namaskar

>

> Yes.

>

> Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe Neelam

to

> give effect of bhagyesh Mangal?

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> -----------------------------

> Consultations and Pages:

<http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c

> rafal

>

> Visti Larsen pisze:

> >

> > ??? ??? ?????

> > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.

> > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done

otherwise

> > then he would not have cancer.

> > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by Jupiter

in

this

> > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past

life

and

> > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu.

> > Still the advise is the same.

> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > ----------

> > www: http://srigaruda.com

> > @: visti

> >

> > rajarshi nandy skrev:

> >

> >> Dear Visti

> >>

> >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful

mail.

> >>

> >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected

with

liver

> >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to

live. In

his

> >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a

pokhraj

instead

> >> of diamond?

> >>

> >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be

great..

> >>

> >> 23rd march 1977

> >> 12:20 pm

> >> calcutta

> >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi..

> >>

> >> -Regards

> >> Rajarshi

> >>

> >> /*

> >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra*

> >> */

> >>

> >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S(trbac /<majastrbacastro/*

wrote:

> >>

> >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro

> >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on

divisonal

> >> charts ?

> >>

> >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM

> >>

> >> Om Gurave Namah

> >>

> >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste

> >>

> >> WOW!

> >>

> >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a "Marry

Christmas

> >> and a Happy New Year in advance".

> >>

> >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us!

> >>

> >> Warm Regards,

> >> Maja Strbac

> >>

> >> Hari Om Tat Sat

> >>

> >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

com>/* wrote:

> >>

> >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

com>

> >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on

> >> divisonal charts ?

> >>

> >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM

> >>

> >> ??? ??? ?????

> >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

> >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I

> >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what

I

> >> have learned and have to share.

> >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with

time

> >> (this will be republished on my website for reference):

> >>

> >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the

> >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect

the

> >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be

making a

> >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right

one.

> >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body,

there

> >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the

body,

> >> hence one should advise these wisely.

> >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not

literally

> >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel,

> >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/

meaning a

> >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams)

> >>

> >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of

> >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra

(diamond),

> >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la

> >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu-

rya

> >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite)./

For the

> >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic

> >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by

most,

> >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does

state

> >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be

regarded

> >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga

> >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la

(Sapphire) /we must

> >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded

as

> >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence,

whilst

> >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the

> >> colour of them being different also differentiates the

> >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be

learned

> >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard.

> >>

> >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a

ratna

which

> >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no

> >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is

for

the

> >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you.

> >>

> >> Ratnaka-raka

> >>

> >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu.

Moon,

Mars,

> >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon

rules over

> >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the

raw

> >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over

the

rare

> >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna ka-

raka

> >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha

> >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of

gemstones.

> >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and

this

is

> >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to

judge

> >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional

chart

> >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can

grant

fame,

> >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones

> >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used.

> >>

> >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known

as /gunatmaka/,

> >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. Hence

to

> >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other

gemstones we

> >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes

and is

> >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be

explained

> >> further below.

> >>

> >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood

from

Vedic

> >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers

represent

> >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the

index,

> >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the

index

> >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing

ahamkara.

The

> >> following table has been culled out of the same work.

> >>

> >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath)

> >>

> >> Ratna

> >>

> >> Finger

> >>

> >> Ruby

> >>

> >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >>

> >> Pearl

> >>

> >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index)

> >>

> >> Coral

> >>

> >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)

> >>

> >> Emerald

> >>

> >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> >>

> >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire

> >>

> >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >>

> >> Diamond

> >>

> >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >>

> >> Blue Sapphire

> >>

> >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> >>

> >> Hessonite

> >>

> >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> >>

> >> Cats eye

> >>

> >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)

> >>

> >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for

the

> >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika)

characteristics

> >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to

be a

> >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga

(topaz)

> >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having

cancer

> >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These

natural

> >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the

gemstones and

> >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana.

> >>

> >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55)

> >>

> >> Graha

> >>

> >> Ratna

> >>

> >> Translation

> >>

> >> Sun

> >>

> >> Padmara-ga

> >>

> >> Ruby

> >>

> >> Moon

> >>

> >> Mukta

> >>

> >> Pearl

> >>

> >> Mars

> >>

> >> Vidruma

> >>

> >> Coral

> >>

> >> Mercury

> >>

> >> Marakata

> >>

> >> Emerald

> >>

> >> Jupiter

> >>

> >> Pushpara-ga

> >>

> >> Yellow Topaz

> >>

> >> Venus

> >>

> >> Vajra

> >>

> >> Diamond

> >>

> >> Saturn

> >>

> >> Indrani-la

> >>

> >> Blue Sapphire

> >>

> >> Rahu

> >>

> >> Gomeda

> >>

> >> Hessonite

> >>

> >> Ketu

> >>

> >> Vaidu-rya

> >>

> >> Cats eye

> >>

> >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any

advice and

> >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from

my

> >> teacher.

> >>

> >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and

ninth

house

> >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best

gemstones

and

> >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The

first

lord

> >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects

the

hands

> >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence

the

> >> native will always select the best path in life if the

gemstone

> >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most

> >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the

best

> >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body.

> >>

> >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and

in

such

> >> cases reversal gems are advised.

> >>

> >> Graha in 9^th

> >>

> >> Gemstone advised

> >>

> >> Saturn

> >>

> >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies)

> >>

> >> Rähu

> >>

> >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz

> >>

> >> Ketu

> >>

> >> Gold ring

> >>

> >> Mars

> >>

> >> Pearl

> >>

> >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are

> >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss

respectively and

> >> should not be worn.

> >>

> >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on

account of

> >> Yoga.

> >>

> >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes)

> >>

> >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana

or

goals

> >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and

moksha

> >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a

> >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs

respectively.

> >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then

the

other

> >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha.

Therefore,

> >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord

the

> >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised.

> >>

> >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on

three of

> >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana

depends on

> >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs

adjacent

> >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus

then

Sun

> >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun

be

> >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the

> >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy

Navamsha,

> >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery

sign

and

> >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the

effects of

> >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as

well,

but

> >> not the moksha-ayana (watery).

> >>

> >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of

effects

will

> >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic

indications

of

> >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then

the

> >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange

results,

> >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results

whilst

> >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone.

Similarly

apply

> >> this to conjunction of more grahas.

> >>

> >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and

Parivartana

> >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as

they

only

> >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a

graha, yet

> >> are still applied when timing events.

> >>

> >> Va-rachakra

> >>

> >> Table 4: Varachakra

> >>

> >> #

> >>

> >> Graha

> >>

> >> 1

> >>

> >> Sun

> >>

> >> 2

> >>

> >> Moon

> >>

> >> 3

> >>

> >> Mars

> >>

> >> 4

> >>

> >> Mercury

> >>

> >> 5

> >>

> >> Jupiter

> >>

> >> 6

> >>

> >> Venus

> >>

> >> 7

> >>

> >> Saturn

> >>

> >> 8

> >>

> >> Rähu

> >>

> >> 9

> >>

> >> Ketu

> >>

> >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or

twelfth

lords

> >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive

> >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is

causing

> >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its

positive

> >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have

given the

> >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in

the

sixth

> >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific

scenario

the

> >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal

battles.

The

> >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further

explained

as:

> >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , 1^st

or

5^th

> >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third

graha in

> >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of

weekdays

the

> >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in

the

tenth

> >> house the native will have problems on account of the

house

> >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life.

Similarly

if

> >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the

fifth

house

> >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be

hampered.

> >>

> >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and

this is

> >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras.

> >>

> >> Gunachakra

> >>

> >> Table 1: Gunachakra

> >>

> >> #

> >>

> >> Graha

> >>

> >> Guna

> >>

> >> 1

> >>

> >> Sun

> >>

> >> Satva

> >>

> >> 2

> >>

> >> Moon

> >>

> >> 3

> >>

> >> Jupiter

> >>

> >> 4

> >>

> >> Rähu

> >>

> >> 5

> >>

> >> Mercury

> >>

> >> Rajas

> >>

> >> 6

> >>

> >> Venus

> >>

> >> 7

> >>

> >> Ketu

> >>

> >> 8

> >>

> >> Saturn

> >>

> >> Tamas

> >>

> >> 9

> >>

> >> Mars

> >>

> >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the

Varachakra.

> >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or

unlock

> >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the

> >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are

caused

> >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is

> >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the

fourth

> >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of

cancer.

> >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised

along

> >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous

system

> >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block

this

issue

> >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the

Mrtyunjaya

bijas.

> >>

> >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one

aspect

of

> >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. if

for

> >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the

native

will

> >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong

application

> >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as

locked

> >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly

if Moon

> >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a Blue

> >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from

the

Moon

> >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives.

> >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra

in this

> >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented

with

> >> them, this is what I have to share.

> >>

> >> Somanatha Drekkana

> >>

> >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it

is

> >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein graha

lording

> >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body and

will

> >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore

not

> >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this

is

the

> >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the

> >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the

partner

> >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should

preferably

also

> >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase the

> >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone

should

> >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the

best

and

> >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice

intelligently.

> >>

> >> Hope this helps to share insight.

> >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> >> www: http://srigaruda.

com

> >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> >>

> >> chandan486 skrev:

> >>

> >>> ||aum namah shivaya||

> >>>

> >>> dear visti,

> >>> namaste.

> >>>

> >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with

the

advent of

> >>> Rahu

> >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent

answered .. is

> >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or

is it

real

> >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone

exchange !!

> >>>

> >>> however , first we need to really understand , that

conjunction

> >>> actually makes planets behave like each other

completely ?

or

> >>> only do

> >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ?

> >>>

> >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ?

then

what does

> >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not

the

same , then

> >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ?

> >>>

> >>> humble regards,

> >>> Chandan S sabarwal.

> >>>

> >>> <%40>,

Visti Larsen

> >>> <visti@> wrote:

> >>> >

> >>> > ??? ??? ?????

> >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar.

> >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and

jail time,

but

> >>> through his

> >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was

untouched. It was

> >>> not

> >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence

pointing

out

> >>> clearly

> >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars

mahadasa was

perfect

> >>> advise...

> >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing

it! How

many can

> >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that

once

following a

> >>> > remedial measure?

> >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>

> >>> > @: visti@

> >>> >

> >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:

> >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya||

> >>> > >

> >>> > > dear swee and visti,

> >>> > > namaste !

> >>> > >

> >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going

to jail

and also

> >>> being

> >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) ,

that

eventually

> >>> came

> >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party

members and

> >>> associates

> >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even

showed the

> >>> briefcase ,

> >>> in

> >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10

million .

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red

coral is being

> >>> advised to

> >>> worn

> >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and

Mercury in 10th

House ,

> >>> merc

> >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend

the basic

theory

> >>> behind

> >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading

somehwere on

your website

> >>> where

> >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana

is actual

exhange of

> >>> houses

> >>> > > and not simply conj....

> >>> > >

> >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in

Dasas's ... but

> >>> actual

> >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is

based upon

Rasi /

> >>> Dasamasa !

> >>> > >

> >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a

gemstone just

based upon

> >>> rasi and

> >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when

career is

> >>> concerend ?

> >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in

Narasimha's

case ,

> >>> somehow

> >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the

Emerald

that he

> >>> should

> >>> have

> >>> > > worn and not the red coral ...

> >>> > >

> >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the

Sun , so

once again

> >>> emerald.

> >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing

with out ,

glad swee

> >>> bought

> >>> > > it up !!

> >>> > >

> >>> > > humbly yours,

> >>> > > chandan s sabarwal.

> >>> > >

> >>> >

> >>>

> >>

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हरे राम कृष्ण

Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

If you read Zoki's statement without the context that you presented you

will surely go wrong. His statement should be read considering the

ninth house in particular, where had Saturn been in parivartana with

ninth lord only then could you advise the blue sapphire for bhagya.

That was related to the example you presented.

Zoki would never in his right mind neglect the principle given by

Guruji reg. Prime Minister PV Narasimha Rao's chart... thats the

strength of Parampara.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

----------

@: visti

Rafal Gendarz skrev:

om namo bhagavate

narasimhaya

Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar

The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on yuti or

parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for yuti, now

Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with Shani

its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha Shani will

work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha which

is 9L so getting out of durbhagya.

How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How can you

perscribe 6L gem?

Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems

can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. "

How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao?

Or I have missed something?

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

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Visti Larsen pisze:

हरे राम कृष्ण

Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would give

durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki is rising

here.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

----------

@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

ahimsavm skrev:

Om Namah Shivaya,

Dear Rafal,

What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, this

substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you have

let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never prescribe

Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. In that

case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health.

The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the Shani

and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be in good

realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti

(Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal and

also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad luck.

Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the chart.

Best wishes

Zoran Radosavljevic

,

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme

wrote:

>

> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> Dear Guruji , Namaskar

>

> Yes.

>

> Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe Neelam

to

> give effect of bhagyesh Mangal?

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> -----------------------------

> Consultations and Pages:

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> rafal

>

> Visti Larsen pisze:

> >

> > ??? ??? ?????

> > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.

> > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done

otherwise

> > then he would not have cancer.

> > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by Jupiter

in

this

> > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past

life

and

> > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu.

> > Still the advise is the same.

> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > ----------

> > www: http://srigaruda.com

> > @: visti

> >

> > rajarshi nandy skrev:

> >

> >> Dear Visti

> >>

> >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful

mail.

> >>

> >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected

with

liver

> >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to

live. In

his

> >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a

pokhraj

instead

> >> of diamond?

> >>

> >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be

great..

> >>

> >> 23rd march 1977

> >> 12:20 pm

> >> calcutta

> >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi..

> >>

> >> -Regards

> >> Rajarshi

> >>

> >> /*

> >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra*

> >> */

> >>

> >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S(trbac /<majastrbacastro/*

wrote:

> >>

> >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro

> >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on

divisonal

> >> charts ?

> >>

> >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM

> >>

> >> Om Gurave Namah

> >>

> >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste

> >>

> >> WOW!

> >>

> >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a "Marry

Christmas

> >> and a Happy New Year in advance".

> >>

> >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us!

> >>

> >> Warm Regards,

> >> Maja Strbac

> >>

> >> Hari Om Tat Sat

> >>

> >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

com>/* wrote:

> >>

> >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

com>

> >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on

> >> divisonal charts ?

> >>

> >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM

> >>

> >> ??? ??? ?????

> >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

> >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I

> >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what

I

> >> have learned and have to share.

> >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with

time

> >> (this will be republished on my website for reference):

> >>

> >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the

> >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect

the

> >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be

making a

> >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right

one.

> >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body,

there

> >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the

body,

> >> hence one should advise these wisely.

> >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not

literally

> >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel,

> >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/

meaning a

> >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams)

> >>

> >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of

> >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra

(diamond),

> >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la

> >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu-

rya

> >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite)./

For the

> >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic

> >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by

most,

> >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does

state

> >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be

regarded

> >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga

> >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la

(Sapphire) /we must

> >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded

as

> >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence,

whilst

> >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the

> >> colour of them being different also differentiates the

> >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be

learned

> >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard.

> >>

> >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a

ratna

which

> >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no

> >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is

for

the

> >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you.

> >>

> >> Ratnaka-raka

> >>

> >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu.

Moon,

Mars,

> >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon

rules over

> >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the

raw

> >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over

the

rare

> >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna ka-

raka

> >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha

> >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of

gemstones.

> >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and

this

is

> >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to

judge

> >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional

chart

> >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can

grant

fame,

> >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones

> >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used.

> >>

> >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known

as /gunatmaka/,

> >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. Hence

to

> >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other

gemstones we

> >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes

and is

> >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be

explained

> >> further below.

> >>

> >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood

from

Vedic

> >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers

represent

> >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the

index,

> >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the

index

> >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing

ahamkara.

The

> >> following table has been culled out of the same work.

> >>

> >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath)

> >>

> >> Ratna

> >>

> >> Finger

> >>

> >> Ruby

> >>

> >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >>

> >> Pearl

> >>

> >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index)

> >>

> >> Coral

> >>

> >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)

> >>

> >> Emerald

> >>

> >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> >>

> >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire

> >>

> >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >>

> >> Diamond

> >>

> >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >>

> >> Blue Sapphire

> >>

> >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> >>

> >> Hessonite

> >>

> >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> >>

> >> Cats eye

> >>

> >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)

> >>

> >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for

the

> >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika)

characteristics

> >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to

be a

> >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga

(topaz)

> >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having

cancer

> >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These

natural

> >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the

gemstones and

> >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana.

> >>

> >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55)

> >>

> >> Graha

> >>

> >> Ratna

> >>

> >> Translation

> >>

> >> Sun

> >>

> >> Padmara-ga

> >>

> >> Ruby

> >>

> >> Moon

> >>

> >> Mukta

> >>

> >> Pearl

> >>

> >> Mars

> >>

> >> Vidruma

> >>

> >> Coral

> >>

> >> Mercury

> >>

> >> Marakata

> >>

> >> Emerald

> >>

> >> Jupiter

> >>

> >> Pushpara-ga

> >>

> >> Yellow Topaz

> >>

> >> Venus

> >>

> >> Vajra

> >>

> >> Diamond

> >>

> >> Saturn

> >>

> >> Indrani-la

> >>

> >> Blue Sapphire

> >>

> >> Rahu

> >>

> >> Gomeda

> >>

> >> Hessonite

> >>

> >> Ketu

> >>

> >> Vaidu-rya

> >>

> >> Cats eye

> >>

> >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any

advice and

> >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from

my

> >> teacher.

> >>

> >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and

ninth

house

> >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best

gemstones

and

> >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The

first

lord

> >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects

the

hands

> >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence

the

> >> native will always select the best path in life if the

gemstone

> >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most

> >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the

best

> >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body.

> >>

> >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and

in

such

> >> cases reversal gems are advised.

> >>

> >> Graha in 9^th

> >>

> >> Gemstone advised

> >>

> >> Saturn

> >>

> >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies)

> >>

> >> Rähu

> >>

> >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz

> >>

> >> Ketu

> >>

> >> Gold ring

> >>

> >> Mars

> >>

> >> Pearl

> >>

> >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are

> >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss

respectively and

> >> should not be worn.

> >>

> >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on

account of

> >> Yoga.

> >>

> >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes)

> >>

> >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana

or

goals

> >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and

moksha

> >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a

> >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs

respectively.

> >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then

the

other

> >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha.

Therefore,

> >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord

the

> >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised.

> >>

> >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on

three of

> >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana

depends on

> >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs

adjacent

> >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus

then

Sun

> >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun

be

> >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the

> >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy

Navamsha,

> >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery

sign

and

> >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the

effects of

> >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as

well,

but

> >> not the moksha-ayana (watery).

> >>

> >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of

effects

will

> >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic

indications

of

> >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then

the

> >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange

results,

> >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results

whilst

> >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone.

Similarly

apply

> >> this to conjunction of more grahas.

> >>

> >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and

Parivartana

> >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as

they

only

> >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a

graha, yet

> >> are still applied when timing events.

> >>

> >> Va-rachakra

> >>

> >> Table 4: Varachakra

> >>

> >> #

> >>

> >> Graha

> >>

> >> 1

> >>

> >> Sun

> >>

> >> 2

> >>

> >> Moon

> >>

> >> 3

> >>

> >> Mars

> >>

> >> 4

> >>

> >> Mercury

> >>

> >> 5

> >>

> >> Jupiter

> >>

> >> 6

> >>

> >> Venus

> >>

> >> 7

> >>

> >> Saturn

> >>

> >> 8

> >>

> >> Rähu

> >>

> >> 9

> >>

> >> Ketu

> >>

> >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or

twelfth

lords

> >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive

> >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is

causing

> >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its

positive

> >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have

given the

> >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in

the

sixth

> >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific

scenario

the

> >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal

battles.

The

> >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further

explained

as:

> >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , 1^st

or

5^th

> >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third

graha in

> >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of

weekdays

the

> >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in

the

tenth

> >> house the native will have problems on account of the

house

> >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life.

Similarly

if

> >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the

fifth

house

> >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be

hampered.

> >>

> >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and

this is

> >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras.

> >>

> >> Gunachakra

> >>

> >> Table 1: Gunachakra

> >>

> >> #

> >>

> >> Graha

> >>

> >> Guna

> >>

> >> 1

> >>

> >> Sun

> >>

> >> Satva

> >>

> >> 2

> >>

> >> Moon

> >>

> >> 3

> >>

> >> Jupiter

> >>

> >> 4

> >>

> >> Rähu

> >>

> >> 5

> >>

> >> Mercury

> >>

> >> Rajas

> >>

> >> 6

> >>

> >> Venus

> >>

> >> 7

> >>

> >> Ketu

> >>

> >> 8

> >>

> >> Saturn

> >>

> >> Tamas

> >>

> >> 9

> >>

> >> Mars

> >>

> >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the

Varachakra.

> >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or

unlock

> >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the

> >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are

caused

> >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is

> >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the

fourth

> >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of

cancer.

> >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised

along

> >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous

system

> >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block

this

issue

> >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the

Mrtyunjaya

bijas.

> >>

> >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one

aspect

of

> >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. if

for

> >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the

native

will

> >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong

application

> >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as

locked

> >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly

if Moon

> >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a Blue

> >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from

the

Moon

> >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives.

> >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra

in this

> >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented

with

> >> them, this is what I have to share.

> >>

> >> Somanatha Drekkana

> >>

> >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it

is

> >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein graha

lording

> >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body and

will

> >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore

not

> >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this

is

the

> >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the

> >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the

partner

> >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should

preferably

also

> >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase the

> >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone

should

> >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the

best

and

> >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice

intelligently.

> >>

> >> Hope this helps to share insight.

> >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> >> www: http://srigaruda.

com

> >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> >>

> >> chandan486 skrev:

> >>

> >>> ||aum namah shivaya||

> >>>

> >>> dear visti,

> >>> namaste.

> >>>

> >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with

the

advent of

> >>> Rahu

> >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent

answered .. is

> >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or

is it

real

> >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone

exchange !!

> >>>

> >>> however , first we need to really understand , that

conjunction

> >>> actually makes planets behave like each other

completely ?

or

> >>> only do

> >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ?

> >>>

> >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ?

then

what does

> >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not

the

same , then

> >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ?

> >>>

> >>> humble regards,

> >>> Chandan S sabarwal.

> >>>

> >>> <%40>,

Visti Larsen

> >>> <visti@> wrote:

> >>> >

> >>> > ??? ??? ?????

> >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar.

> >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and

jail time,

but

> >>> through his

> >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was

untouched. It was

> >>> not

> >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence

pointing

out

> >>> clearly

> >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars

mahadasa was

perfect

> >>> advise...

> >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing

it! How

many can

> >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that

once

following a

> >>> > remedial measure?

> >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>

> >>> > @: visti@

> >>> >

> >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:

> >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya||

> >>> > >

> >>> > > dear swee and visti,

> >>> > > namaste !

> >>> > >

> >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going

to jail

and also

> >>> being

> >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) ,

that

eventually

> >>> came

> >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party

members and

> >>> associates

> >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even

showed the

> >>> briefcase ,

> >>> in

> >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10

million .

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red

coral is being

> >>> advised to

> >>> worn

> >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and

Mercury in 10th

House ,

> >>> merc

> >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend

the basic

theory

> >>> behind

> >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading

somehwere on

your website

> >>> where

> >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana

is actual

exhange of

> >>> houses

> >>> > > and not simply conj....

> >>> > >

> >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in

Dasas's ... but

> >>> actual

> >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is

based upon

Rasi /

> >>> Dasamasa !

> >>> > >

> >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a

gemstone just

based upon

> >>> rasi and

> >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when

career is

> >>> concerend ?

> >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in

Narasimha's

case ,

> >>> somehow

> >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the

Emerald

that he

> >>> should

> >>> have

> >>> > > worn and not the red coral ...

> >>> > >

> >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the

Sun , so

once again

> >>> emerald.

> >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing

with out ,

glad swee

> >>> bought

> >>> > > it up !!

> >>> > >

> >>> > > humbly yours,

> >>> > > chandan s sabarwal.

> >>> > >

> >>> >

> >>>

> >>

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December 17, 2008

om namo bhagavate narasimhaya

Dear Guruji, Namaskar

Ok, you say yuti also, Zoran says Parivartana only so, what is the

Upadesa from Parampara, here?

If yuti also why Neelam would be bad for my example - it gives effects

of 9L and gem based on 9L is best.

Maybe to avoid ninth bhava confussion lets go to Meena Lagna Surya and

Moon yuti - so we should perscribe

Ruby right? Or if Moti how Coral could be good for Narasimha?

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

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Visti Larsen pisze:

हरे राम कृष्ण

Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

If you read Zoki's statement without the context that you presented you

will surely go wrong. His statement should be read considering the

ninth house in particular, where had Saturn been in parivartana with

ninth lord only then could you advise the blue sapphire for bhagya.

That was related to the example you presented.

Zoki would never in his right mind neglect the principle given by

Guruji reg. Prime Minister PV Narasimha Rao's chart... thats the

strength of Parampara.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

----------

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Rafal Gendarz skrev:

om namo bhagavate

narasimhaya

Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar

The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on yuti or

parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for yuti, now

Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with Shani

its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha Shani will

work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha which

is 9L so getting out of durbhagya.

How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How can you

perscribe 6L gem?

Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems

can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. "

How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao?

Or I have missed something?

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

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Visti Larsen pisze:

हरे राम कृष्ण

Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would give

durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki is rising

here.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

----------

@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

ahimsavm skrev:

Om Namah Shivaya,

Dear Rafal,

What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, this

substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you have

let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never prescribe

Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. In that

case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health.

The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the Shani

and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be in good

realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti

(Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal and

also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad luck.

Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the chart.

Best wishes

Zoran Radosavljevic

,

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme

wrote:

>

> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> Dear Guruji , Namaskar

>

> Yes.

>

> Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe Neelam

to

> give effect of bhagyesh Mangal?

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> -----------------------------

> Consultations and Pages:

<http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c

> rafal

>

> Visti Larsen pisze:

> >

> > ??? ??? ?????

> > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.

> > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done

otherwise

> > then he would not have cancer.

> > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by Jupiter

in

this

> > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past

life

and

> > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu.

> > Still the advise is the same.

> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > ----------

> > www: http://srigaruda.com

> > @: visti

> >

> > rajarshi nandy skrev:

> >

> >> Dear Visti

> >>

> >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful

mail.

> >>

> >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected

with

liver

> >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to

live. In

his

> >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a

pokhraj

instead

> >> of diamond?

> >>

> >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be

great..

> >>

> >> 23rd march 1977

> >> 12:20 pm

> >> calcutta

> >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi..

> >>

> >> -Regards

> >> Rajarshi

> >>

> >> /*

> >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra*

> >> */

> >>

> >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S(trbac /<majastrbacastro/*

wrote:

> >>

> >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro

> >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on

divisonal

> >> charts ?

> >>

> >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM

> >>

> >> Om Gurave Namah

> >>

> >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste

> >>

> >> WOW!

> >>

> >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a "Marry

Christmas

> >> and a Happy New Year in advance".

> >>

> >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us!

> >>

> >> Warm Regards,

> >> Maja Strbac

> >>

> >> Hari Om Tat Sat

> >>

> >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

com>/* wrote:

> >>

> >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

com>

> >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on

> >> divisonal charts ?

> >>

> >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM

> >>

> >> ??? ??? ?????

> >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

> >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I

> >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what

I

> >> have learned and have to share.

> >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with

time

> >> (this will be republished on my website for reference):

> >>

> >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the

> >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect

the

> >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be

making a

> >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right

one.

> >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body,

there

> >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the

body,

> >> hence one should advise these wisely.

> >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not

literally

> >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel,

> >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/

meaning a

> >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams)

> >>

> >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of

> >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra

(diamond),

> >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la

> >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu-

rya

> >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite)./

For the

> >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic

> >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by

most,

> >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does

state

> >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be

regarded

> >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga

> >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la

(Sapphire) /we must

> >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded

as

> >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence,

whilst

> >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the

> >> colour of them being different also differentiates the

> >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be

learned

> >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard.

> >>

> >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a

ratna

which

> >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no

> >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is

for

the

> >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you.

> >>

> >> Ratnaka-raka

> >>

> >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu.

Moon,

Mars,

> >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon

rules over

> >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the

raw

> >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over

the

rare

> >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna ka-

raka

> >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha

> >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of

gemstones.

> >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and

this

is

> >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to

judge

> >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional

chart

> >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can

grant

fame,

> >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones

> >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used.

> >>

> >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known

as /gunatmaka/,

> >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. Hence

to

> >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other

gemstones we

> >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes

and is

> >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be

explained

> >> further below.

> >>

> >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood

from

Vedic

> >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers

represent

> >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the

index,

> >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the

index

> >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing

ahamkara.

The

> >> following table has been culled out of the same work.

> >>

> >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath)

> >>

> >> Ratna

> >>

> >> Finger

> >>

> >> Ruby

> >>

> >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >>

> >> Pearl

> >>

> >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index)

> >>

> >> Coral

> >>

> >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)

> >>

> >> Emerald

> >>

> >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> >>

> >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire

> >>

> >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >>

> >> Diamond

> >>

> >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >>

> >> Blue Sapphire

> >>

> >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> >>

> >> Hessonite

> >>

> >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> >>

> >> Cats eye

> >>

> >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)

> >>

> >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for

the

> >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika)

characteristics

> >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to

be a

> >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga

(topaz)

> >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having

cancer

> >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These

natural

> >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the

gemstones and

> >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana.

> >>

> >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55)

> >>

> >> Graha

> >>

> >> Ratna

> >>

> >> Translation

> >>

> >> Sun

> >>

> >> Padmara-ga

> >>

> >> Ruby

> >>

> >> Moon

> >>

> >> Mukta

> >>

> >> Pearl

> >>

> >> Mars

> >>

> >> Vidruma

> >>

> >> Coral

> >>

> >> Mercury

> >>

> >> Marakata

> >>

> >> Emerald

> >>

> >> Jupiter

> >>

> >> Pushpara-ga

> >>

> >> Yellow Topaz

> >>

> >> Venus

> >>

> >> Vajra

> >>

> >> Diamond

> >>

> >> Saturn

> >>

> >> Indrani-la

> >>

> >> Blue Sapphire

> >>

> >> Rahu

> >>

> >> Gomeda

> >>

> >> Hessonite

> >>

> >> Ketu

> >>

> >> Vaidu-rya

> >>

> >> Cats eye

> >>

> >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any

advice and

> >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from

my

> >> teacher.

> >>

> >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and

ninth

house

> >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best

gemstones

and

> >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The

first

lord

> >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects

the

hands

> >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence

the

> >> native will always select the best path in life if the

gemstone

> >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most

> >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the

best

> >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body.

> >>

> >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and

in

such

> >> cases reversal gems are advised.

> >>

> >> Graha in 9^th

> >>

> >> Gemstone advised

> >>

> >> Saturn

> >>

> >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies)

> >>

> >> Rähu

> >>

> >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz

> >>

> >> Ketu

> >>

> >> Gold ring

> >>

> >> Mars

> >>

> >> Pearl

> >>

> >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are

> >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss

respectively and

> >> should not be worn.

> >>

> >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on

account of

> >> Yoga.

> >>

> >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes)

> >>

> >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana

or

goals

> >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and

moksha

> >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a

> >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs

respectively.

> >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then

the

other

> >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha.

Therefore,

> >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord

the

> >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised.

> >>

> >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on

three of

> >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana

depends on

> >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs

adjacent

> >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus

then

Sun

> >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun

be

> >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the

> >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy

Navamsha,

> >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery

sign

and

> >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the

effects of

> >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as

well,

but

> >> not the moksha-ayana (watery).

> >>

> >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of

effects

will

> >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic

indications

of

> >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then

the

> >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange

results,

> >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results

whilst

> >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone.

Similarly

apply

> >> this to conjunction of more grahas.

> >>

> >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and

Parivartana

> >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as

they

only

> >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a

graha, yet

> >> are still applied when timing events.

> >>

> >> Va-rachakra

> >>

> >> Table 4: Varachakra

> >>

> >> #

> >>

> >> Graha

> >>

> >> 1

> >>

> >> Sun

> >>

> >> 2

> >>

> >> Moon

> >>

> >> 3

> >>

> >> Mars

> >>

> >> 4

> >>

> >> Mercury

> >>

> >> 5

> >>

> >> Jupiter

> >>

> >> 6

> >>

> >> Venus

> >>

> >> 7

> >>

> >> Saturn

> >>

> >> 8

> >>

> >> Rähu

> >>

> >> 9

> >>

> >> Ketu

> >>

> >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or

twelfth

lords

> >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive

> >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is

causing

> >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its

positive

> >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have

given the

> >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in

the

sixth

> >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific

scenario

the

> >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal

battles.

The

> >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further

explained

as:

> >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , 1^st

or

5^th

> >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third

graha in

> >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of

weekdays

the

> >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in

the

tenth

> >> house the native will have problems on account of the

house

> >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life.

Similarly

if

> >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the

fifth

house

> >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be

hampered.

> >>

> >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and

this is

> >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras.

> >>

> >> Gunachakra

> >>

> >> Table 1: Gunachakra

> >>

> >> #

> >>

> >> Graha

> >>

> >> Guna

> >>

> >> 1

> >>

> >> Sun

> >>

> >> Satva

> >>

> >> 2

> >>

> >> Moon

> >>

> >> 3

> >>

> >> Jupiter

> >>

> >> 4

> >>

> >> Rähu

> >>

> >> 5

> >>

> >> Mercury

> >>

> >> Rajas

> >>

> >> 6

> >>

> >> Venus

> >>

> >> 7

> >>

> >> Ketu

> >>

> >> 8

> >>

> >> Saturn

> >>

> >> Tamas

> >>

> >> 9

> >>

> >> Mars

> >>

> >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the

Varachakra.

> >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or

unlock

> >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the

> >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are

caused

> >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is

> >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the

fourth

> >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of

cancer.

> >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised

along

> >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous

system

> >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block

this

issue

> >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the

Mrtyunjaya

bijas.

> >>

> >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one

aspect

of

> >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. if

for

> >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the

native

will

> >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong

application

> >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as

locked

> >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly

if Moon

> >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a Blue

> >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from

the

Moon

> >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives.

> >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra

in this

> >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented

with

> >> them, this is what I have to share.

> >>

> >> Somanatha Drekkana

> >>

> >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it

is

> >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein graha

lording

> >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body and

will

> >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore

not

> >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this

is

the

> >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the

> >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the

partner

> >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should

preferably

also

> >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase the

> >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone

should

> >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the

best

and

> >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice

intelligently.

> >>

> >> Hope this helps to share insight.

> >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> >> www: http://srigaruda.

com

> >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> >>

> >> chandan486 skrev:

> >>

> >>> ||aum namah shivaya||

> >>>

> >>> dear visti,

> >>> namaste.

> >>>

> >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with

the

advent of

> >>> Rahu

> >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent

answered .. is

> >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or

is it

real

> >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone

exchange !!

> >>>

> >>> however , first we need to really understand , that

conjunction

> >>> actually makes planets behave like each other

completely ?

or

> >>> only do

> >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ?

> >>>

> >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ?

then

what does

> >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not

the

same , then

> >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ?

> >>>

> >>> humble regards,

> >>> Chandan S sabarwal.

> >>>

> >>> <%40>,

Visti Larsen

> >>> <visti@> wrote:

> >>> >

> >>> > ??? ??? ?????

> >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar.

> >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and

jail time,

but

> >>> through his

> >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was

untouched. It was

> >>> not

> >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence

pointing

out

> >>> clearly

> >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars

mahadasa was

perfect

> >>> advise...

> >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing

it! How

many can

> >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that

once

following a

> >>> > remedial measure?

> >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/>

> >>> > @: visti@

> >>> >

> >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:

> >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya||

> >>> > >

> >>> > > dear swee and visti,

> >>> > > namaste !

> >>> > >

> >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going

to jail

and also

> >>> being

> >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) ,

that

eventually

> >>> came

> >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party

members and

> >>> associates

> >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even

showed the

> >>> briefcase ,

> >>> in

> >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10

million .

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red

coral is being

> >>> advised to

> >>> worn

> >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and

Mercury in 10th

House ,

> >>> merc

> >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend

the basic

theory

> >>> behind

> >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading

somehwere on

your website

> >>> where

> >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana

is actual

exhange of

> >>> houses

> >>> > > and not simply conj....

> >>> > >

> >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in

Dasas's ... but

> >>> actual

> >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is

based upon

Rasi /

> >>> Dasamasa !

> >>> > >

> >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a

gemstone just

based upon

> >>> rasi and

> >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when

career is

> >>> concerend ?

> >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in

Narasimha's

case ,

> >>> somehow

> >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the

Emerald

that he

> >>> should

> >>> have

> >>> > > worn and not the red coral ...

> >>> > >

> >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the

Sun , so

once again

> >>> emerald.

> >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing

with out ,

glad swee

> >>> bought

> >>> > > it up !!

> >>> > >

> >>> > > humbly yours,

> >>> > > chandan s sabarwal.

> >>> > >

> >>> >

> >>>

> >>

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December 17, 2008

Om Namah Shivaya,

Dear Rafal,

What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has very

precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are reversed,

so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we subsitute the

gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing their

signification, since one pada of dharma remains uninfluenced. So,

parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in Full

reversal (Parivartana), I have seen Sanjayji recommending the change

of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th house and

Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani and Shukra.

Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji recommended

Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra specifically.This was

further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well.

Best wishes

Zoran Radosavljevic

, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme

wrote:

>

> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar

>

> The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on yuti

or

> parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for

yuti, now

> Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with

Shani

> its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha Shani

will

> work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha

which is

> 9L so getting out of durbhagya.

>

> How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How can

you

> perscribe 6L gem?

>

> Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done ONLY

in

> PARIVARTANA. "

>

> How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao?

>

> Or I have missed something?

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> -----------------------------

> Consultations and Pages:

<http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c

> rafal

>

> Visti Larsen pisze:

> >

> > ??? ??? ?????

> > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

> > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would

give

> > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki is

> > rising here.

> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > ----------

> > www: http://srigaruda.com

> > @: visti

> >

> > ahimsavm skrev:

> >

> >> Om Namah Shivaya,

> >> Dear Rafal,

> >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, this

> >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you

have

> >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never

prescribe

> >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. In

that

> >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health.

> >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the

Shani

> >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be in

good

> >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti

> >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal and

> >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad

luck.

> >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the chart.

> >> Best wishes

> >> Zoran Radosavljevic

> >> www.siva-edu.info

> >> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

> >>

> >> <%40>, Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme@>

> >> wrote:

> >> >

> >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar

> >> >

> >> > Yes.

> >> >

> >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe

Neelam

> >> to

> >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal?

> >> >

> >> > Regards,

> >> > Rafal Gendarz

> >> > -----------------------------

> >> > Consultations and Pages:

> >> > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>

> >> > rafal@

> >> >

> >> > Visti Larsen pisze:

> >> > >

> >> > > ??? ??? ?????

> >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.

> >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done

> >> otherwise

> >> > > then he would not have cancer.

> >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by

Jupiter in

> >> this

> >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past

life

> >> and

> >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu.

> >> > > Still the advise is the same.

> >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >> > > ----------

> >> > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>

> >> > > @: visti@

> >> > >

> >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev:

> >> > >

> >> > >> Dear Visti

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful

mail.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected with

> >> liver

> >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to live.

In

> >> his

> >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a

pokhraj

> >> instead

> >> > >> of diamond?

> >> > >>

> >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be

great..

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 23rd march 1977

> >> > >> 12:20 pm

> >> > >> calcutta

> >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi..

> >> > >>

> >> > >> -Regards

> >> > >> Rajarshi

> >> > >>

> >> > >> /*

> >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra*

> >> > >> */

> >> > >>

> >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S(trbac /<majastrbacastro@>/*

> >> wrote:

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@>

> >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on

> >> divisonal

> >> > >> charts ?

> >> > >>

> >> <%40>

> >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Om Gurave Namah

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste

> >> > >>

> >> > >> WOW!

> >> > >>

> >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a " Marry

> >> Christmas

> >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance " .

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us!

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Warm Regards,

> >> > >> Maja Strbac

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat

> >> > >>

> >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

> >> com>/* wrote:

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

> >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on

> >> > >> divisonal charts ?

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM

> >> > >>

> >> > >> ??? ??? ?????

> >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

> >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I

> >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what

> >> I

> >> > >> have learned and have to share.

> >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with

> >> time

> >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for reference):

> >> > >>

> >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the

> >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect

> >> the

> >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be

> >> making a

> >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right

> >> one.

> >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body,

> >> there

> >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the

> >> body,

> >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely.

> >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not

> >> literally

> >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel,

> >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/

> >> meaning a

> >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams)

> >> > >>

> >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of

> >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra

> >> (diamond),

> >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la

> >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu-

> >> rya

> >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite)./

> >> For the

> >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic

> >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by

> >> most,

> >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does

> >> state

> >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be

> >> regarded

> >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga

> >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la

> >> (Sapphire) /we must

> >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded

> >> as

> >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence,

> >> whilst

> >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the

> >> > >> colour of them being different also differentiates the

> >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be

> >> learned

> >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna

> >> which

> >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no

> >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for

> >> the

> >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Ratnaka-raka

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon,

> >> Mars,

> >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon

> >> rules over

> >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the

raw

> >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over the

> >> rare

> >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna ka-

> >> raka

> >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha

> >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of

> >> gemstones.

> >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this

> >> is

> >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to

> >> judge

> >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional

chart

> >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant

> >> fame,

> >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones

> >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known

> >> as /gunatmaka/,

> >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. Hence to

> >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other

> >> gemstones we

> >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes

> >> and is

> >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be

explained

> >> > >> further below.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from

> >> Vedic

> >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers

> >> represent

> >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the index,

> >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the

> >> index

> >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara.

> >> The

> >> > >> following table has been culled out of the same work.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath)

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Ratna

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Finger

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Ruby

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Pearl

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index)

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Coral

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Emerald

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Diamond

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Blue Sapphire

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Hessonite

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Cats eye

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for

> >> the

> >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika)

> >> characteristics

> >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be

a

> >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga

> >> (topaz)

> >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having

> >> cancer

> >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These

> >> natural

> >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the

> >> gemstones and

> >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55)

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Graha

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Ratna

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Translation

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Sun

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Padmara-ga

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Ruby

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Moon

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Mukta

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Pearl

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Mars

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Vidruma

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Coral

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Mercury

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Marakata

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Emerald

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Jupiter

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Pushpara-ga

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Yellow Topaz

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Venus

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Vajra

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Diamond

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Saturn

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Indrani-la

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Blue Sapphire

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Rahu

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Gomeda

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Hessonite

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Ketu

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Vaidu-rya

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Cats eye

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any

> >> advice and

> >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from

my

> >> > >> teacher.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth

> >> house

> >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones

> >> and

> >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The first

> >> lord

> >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the

> >> hands

> >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence

the

> >> > >> native will always select the best path in life if the

> >> gemstone

> >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most

> >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the

> >> best

> >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in

> >> such

> >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Graha in 9^th

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Gemstone advised

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Saturn

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies)

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Rähu

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Ketu

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Gold ring

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Mars

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Pearl

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are

> >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss

> >> respectively and

> >> > >> should not be worn.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on

> >> account of

> >> > >> Yoga.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes)

> >> > >>

> >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or

> >> goals

> >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and moksha

> >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a

> >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs

> >> respectively.

> >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the

> >> other

> >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha.

> >> Therefore,

> >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the

> >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on

> >> three of

> >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana

> >> depends on

> >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs

> >> adjacent

> >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then

> >> Sun

> >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun

be

> >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the

> >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy

> >> Navamsha,

> >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign

> >> and

> >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the

> >> effects of

> >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as well,

> >> but

> >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery).

> >> > >>

> >> > >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects

> >> will

> >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications

> >> of

> >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then

the

> >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange

> >> results,

> >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results

> >> whilst

> >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly

> >> apply

> >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana

> >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they

> >> only

> >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a

> >> graha, yet

> >> > >> are still applied when timing events.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Va-rachakra

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra

> >> > >>

> >> > >> #

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Graha

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 1

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Sun

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 2

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Moon

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 3

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Mars

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 4

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Mercury

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 5

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Jupiter

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 6

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Venus

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 7

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Saturn

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 8

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Rähu

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 9

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Ketu

> >> > >>

> >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth

> >> lords

> >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive

> >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is

> >> causing

> >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its

positive

> >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have

> >> given the

> >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the

> >> sixth

> >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario

> >> the

> >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles.

> >> The

> >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained

> >> as:

> >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , 1^st or

> >> 5^th

> >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third

> >> graha in

> >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays

> >> the

> >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the

> >> tenth

> >> > >> house the native will have problems on account of the house

> >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly

> >> if

> >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth

> >> house

> >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be

hampered.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and

> >> this is

> >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Gunachakra

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra

> >> > >>

> >> > >> #

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Graha

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Guna

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 1

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Sun

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Satva

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 2

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Moon

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 3

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Jupiter

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 4

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Rähu

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 5

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Mercury

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Rajas

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 6

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Venus

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 7

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Ketu

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 8

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Saturn

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Tamas

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 9

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Mars

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the

> >> Varachakra.

> >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or

> >> unlock

> >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the

> >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are

> >> caused

> >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is

> >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the

> >> fourth

> >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of

> >> cancer.

> >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised

> >> along

> >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous

> >> system

> >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this

> >> issue

> >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya

> >> bijas.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect

> >> of

> >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. if

> >> for

> >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native

> >> will

> >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong

> >> application

> >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as

> >> locked

> >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly

> >> if Moon

> >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a Blue

> >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the

> >> Moon

> >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives.

> >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra

> >> in this

> >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented

with

> >> > >> them, this is what I have to share.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it

is

> >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein graha

> >> lording

> >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body and

> >> will

> >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore

not

> >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is

> >> the

> >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the

> >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the

> >> partner

> >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably

> >> also

> >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase the

> >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone

> >> should

> >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best

> >> and

> >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice

> >> intelligently.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight.

> >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com

> >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> >> > >>

> >> > >> chandan486 skrev:

> >> > >>

> >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya||

> >> > >>>

> >> > >>> dear visti,

> >> > >>> namaste.

> >> > >>>

> >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the

> >> advent of

> >> > >>> Rahu

> >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent

> >> answered .. is

> >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it

> >> real

> >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone

> >> exchange !!

> >> > >>>

> >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand , that

> >> conjunction

> >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other completely ?

> >> or

> >> > >>> only do

> >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ?

> >> > >>>

> >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then

> >> what does

> >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the

> >> same , then

> >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ?

> >> > >>>

> >> > >>> humble regards,

> >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal.

> >> > >>>

> >> > >>> <%40>, Visti Larsen

> >> > >>> <visti@> wrote:

> >> > >>> >

> >> > >>> > ??? ??? ?????

> >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar.

> >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time,

> >> but

> >> > >>> through his

> >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was

> >> untouched. It was

> >> > >>> not

> >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing

> >> out

> >> > >>> clearly

> >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was

> >> perfect

> >> > >>> advise...

> >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How

> >> many can

> >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once

> >> following a

> >> > >>> > remedial measure?

> >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/

> >> <http://srigaruda.com/>>

> >> > >>> > @: visti@

> >> > >>> >

> >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:

> >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya||

> >> > >>> > >

> >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti,

> >> > >>> > > namaste !

> >> > >>> > >

> >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail

> >> and also

> >> > >>> being

> >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that

> >> eventually

> >> > >>> came

> >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members

and

> >> > >>> associates

> >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the

> >> > >>> briefcase ,

> >> > >>> in

> >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million .

> >> > >>> > >

> >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being

> >> > >>> advised to

> >> > >>> worn

> >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th

> >> House ,

> >> > >>> merc

> >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic

> >> theory

> >> > >>> behind

> >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on

> >> your website

> >> > >>> where

> >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual

> >> exhange of

> >> > >>> houses

> >> > >>> > > and not simply conj....

> >> > >>> > >

> >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in

> >> Dasas's ... but

> >> > >>> actual

> >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon

> >> Rasi /

> >> > >>> Dasamasa !

> >> > >>> > >

> >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just

> >> based upon

> >> > >>> rasi and

> >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is

> >> > >>> concerend ?

> >> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's

> >> case ,

> >> > >>> somehow

> >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald

> >> that he

> >> > >>> should

> >> > >>> have

> >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ...

> >> > >>> > >

> >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so

> >> once again

> >> > >>> emerald.

> >> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out ,

> >> glad swee

> >> > >>> bought

> >> > >>> > > it up !!

> >> > >>> > >

> >> > >>> > > humbly yours,

> >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal.

> >> > >>> > >

> >> > >>> >

> >> > >>>

> >> > >>

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> >> > >>

> >>

> >>

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December 17, 2008

Om Namah Shivaya,

Dear Visti,

You are so correct. This is exactly what I thought.

May the blessings of paramapara shower on you always...

Best wishes

Zoki

, Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

>

> ??? ??? ?????

> Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

> If you read Zoki's statement without the context that you

presented you

> will surely go wrong. His statement should be read considering the

ninth

> house in particular, where had Saturn been in parivartana with

ninth

> lord only then could you advise the blue sapphire for bhagya. That

was

> related to the example you presented.

> Zoki would never in his right mind neglect the principle given by

Guruji

> reg. Prime Minister PV Narasimha Rao's chart... thats the strength

of

> Parampara.

> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> ----------

> www: http://srigaruda.com

> @: visti

>

> Rafal Gendarz skrev:

> >

> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar

> >

> > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on

yuti or

> > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for

yuti,

> > now Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is

with

> > Shani its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti

graha

> > Shani will work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the

yuti

> > graha which is 9L so getting out of durbhagya.

> >

> > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How

can you

> > perscribe 6L gem?

> >

> > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done

ONLY in

> > PARIVARTANA. "

> >

> > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao?

> >

> > Or I have missed something?

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rafal Gendarz

> > -----------------------------

> > Consultations and Pages:

> > http://rohinaa.com

> > rafal

> >

> > Visti Larsen pisze:

> >

> >> ??? ??? ?????

> >> Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

> >> How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would

give

> >> durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki

is

> >> rising here.

> >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >> ----------

> >> www: http://srigaruda.com

> >> @: visti

> >>

> >> ahimsavm skrev:

> >>

> >>> Om Namah Shivaya,

> >>> Dear Rafal,

> >>> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However,

this

> >>> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you

have

> >>> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never

prescribe

> >>> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. In

that

> >>> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health.

> >>> The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the

Shani

> >>> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be in

good

> >>> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti

> >>> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal

and

> >>> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad

luck.

> >>> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the

chart.

> >>> Best wishes

> >>> Zoran Radosavljevic

> >>> www.siva-edu.info

> >>> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

> >>>

> >>> <%40>, Rafal Gendarz

> >>> <starsuponme@>

> >>> wrote:

> >>> >

> >>> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> >>> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar

> >>> >

> >>> > Yes.

> >>> >

> >>> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe

Neelam

> >>> to

> >>> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal?

> >>> >

> >>> > Regards,

> >>> > Rafal Gendarz

> >>> > -----------------------------

> >>> > Consultations and Pages:

> >>> > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>

> >>> > rafal@

> >>> >

> >>> > Visti Larsen pisze:

> >>> > >

> >>> > > ??? ??? ?????

> >>> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.

> >>> > > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done

> >>> otherwise

> >>> > > then he would not have cancer.

> >>> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by

Jupiter in

> >>> this

> >>> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from

past life

> >>> and

> >>> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu.

> >>> > > Still the advise is the same.

> >>> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >>> > > ----------

> >>> > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>

> >>> > > @: visti@

> >>> > >

> >>> > > rajarshi nandy skrev:

> >>> > >

> >>> > >> Dear Visti

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful

mail.

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected

with

> >>> liver

> >>> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to

live. In

> >>> his

> >>> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a

pokhraj

> >>> instead

> >>> > >> of diamond?

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be

great..

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> 23rd march 1977

> >>> > >> 12:20 pm

> >>> > >> calcutta

> >>> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi..

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> -Regards

> >>> > >> Rajarshi

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> /*

> >>> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra*

> >>> > >> */

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S(trbac /<majastrbacastro@>/*

> >>> wrote:

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@>

> >>> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on

> >>> divisonal

> >>> > >> charts ?

> >>> > >>

> >>> <%40>

> >>> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Om Gurave Namah

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> WOW!

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a " Marry

> >>> Christmas

> >>> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance " .

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us!

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Warm Regards,

> >>> > >> Maja Strbac

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

> >>> com>/* wrote:

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

> >>> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on

> >>> > >> divisonal charts ?

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> ??? ??? ?????

> >>> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

> >>> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I

> >>> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what

> >>> I

> >>> > >> have learned and have to share.

> >>> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with

> >>> time

> >>> > >> (this will be republished on my website for reference):

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the

> >>> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect

> >>> the

> >>> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be

> >>> making a

> >>> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right

> >>> one.

> >>> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body,

> >>> there

> >>> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the

> >>> body,

> >>> > >> hence one should advise these wisely.

> >>> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not

> >>> literally

> >>> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel,

> >>> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/

> >>> meaning a

> >>> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams)

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of

> >>> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra

> >>> (diamond),

> >>> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la

> >>> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu-

> >>> rya

> >>> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite)./

> >>> For the

> >>> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic

> >>> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by

> >>> most,

> >>> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does

> >>> state

> >>> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be

> >>> regarded

> >>> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga

> >>> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la

> >>> (Sapphire) /we must

> >>> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded

> >>> as

> >>> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence,

> >>> whilst

> >>> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the

> >>> > >> colour of them being different also differentiates the

> >>> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be

> >>> learned

> >>> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard.

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna

> >>> which

> >>> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no

> >>> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for

> >>> the

> >>> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you.

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Ratnaka-raka

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon,

> >>> Mars,

> >>> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon

> >>> rules over

> >>> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the

raw

> >>> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over the

> >>> rare

> >>> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna ka-

> >>> raka

> >>> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha

> >>> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of

> >>> gemstones.

> >>> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this

> >>> is

> >>> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to

> >>> judge

> >>> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional

chart

> >>> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant

> >>> fame,

> >>> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones

> >>> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used.

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known

> >>> as /gunatmaka/,

> >>> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. Hence

to

> >>> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other

> >>> gemstones we

> >>> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes

> >>> and is

> >>> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be

explained

> >>> > >> further below.

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood

from

> >>> Vedic

> >>> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers

> >>> represent

> >>> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the

index,

> >>> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the

> >>> index

> >>> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing

ahamkara.

> >>> The

> >>> > >> following table has been culled out of the same work.

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath)

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Ratna

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Finger

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Ruby

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Pearl

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index)

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Coral

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Emerald

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Diamond

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Blue Sapphire

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Hessonite

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Cats eye

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for

> >>> the

> >>> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika)

> >>> characteristics

> >>> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to

be a

> >>> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga

> >>> (topaz)

> >>> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having

> >>> cancer

> >>> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These

> >>> natural

> >>> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the

> >>> gemstones and

> >>> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana.

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55)

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Graha

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Ratna

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Translation

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Sun

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Padmara-ga

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Ruby

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Moon

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Mukta

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Pearl

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Mars

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Vidruma

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Coral

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Mercury

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Marakata

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Emerald

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Jupiter

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Pushpara-ga

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Yellow Topaz

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Venus

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Vajra

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Diamond

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Saturn

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Indrani-la

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Blue Sapphire

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Rahu

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Gomeda

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Hessonite

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Ketu

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Vaidu-rya

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Cats eye

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any

> >>> advice and

> >>> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from

my

> >>> > >> teacher.

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and

ninth

> >>> house

> >>> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best

gemstones

> >>> and

> >>> > >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The

first

> >>> lord

> >>> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the

> >>> hands

> >>> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence

the

> >>> > >> native will always select the best path in life if the

> >>> gemstone

> >>> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most

> >>> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the

> >>> best

> >>> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body.

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and

in

> >>> such

> >>> > >> cases reversal gems are advised.

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Graha in 9^th

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Gemstone advised

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Saturn

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies)

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Rähu

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Ketu

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Gold ring

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Mars

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Pearl

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are

> >>> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss

> >>> respectively and

> >>> > >> should not be worn.

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on

> >>> account of

> >>> > >> Yoga.

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes)

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana

or

> >>> goals

> >>> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and

moksha

> >>> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a

> >>> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs

> >>> respectively.

> >>> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the

> >>> other

> >>> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha.

> >>> Therefore,

> >>> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord

the

> >>> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised.

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on

> >>> three of

> >>> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana

> >>> depends on

> >>> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs

> >>> adjacent

> >>> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then

> >>> Sun

> >>> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun

be

> >>> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the

> >>> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy

> >>> Navamsha,

> >>> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign

> >>> and

> >>> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the

> >>> effects of

> >>> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as

well,

> >>> but

> >>> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery).

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of

effects

> >>> will

> >>> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic

indications

> >>> of

> >>> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then

the

> >>> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange

> >>> results,

> >>> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results

> >>> whilst

> >>> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone.

Similarly

> >>> apply

> >>> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas.

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and

Parivartana

> >>> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they

> >>> only

> >>> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a

> >>> graha, yet

> >>> > >> are still applied when timing events.

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Va-rachakra

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Table 4: Varachakra

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> #

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Graha

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> 1

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Sun

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> 2

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Moon

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> 3

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Mars

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> 4

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Mercury

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> 5

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Jupiter

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> 6

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Venus

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> 7

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Saturn

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> 8

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Rähu

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> 9

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Ketu

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or

twelfth

> >>> lords

> >>> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive

> >>> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is

> >>> causing

> >>> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its

positive

> >>> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have

> >>> given the

> >>> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in

the

> >>> sixth

> >>> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific

scenario

> >>> the

> >>> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles.

> >>> The

> >>> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained

> >>> as:

> >>> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , 1^st

or

> >>> 5^th

> >>> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third

> >>> graha in

> >>> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays

> >>> the

> >>> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in

the

> >>> tenth

> >>> > >> house the native will have problems on account of the

house

> >>> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly

> >>> if

> >>> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth

> >>> house

> >>> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be

hampered.

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and

> >>> this is

> >>> > >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras.

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Gunachakra

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> #

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Graha

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Guna

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> 1

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Sun

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Satva

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> 2

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Moon

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> 3

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Jupiter

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> 4

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Rähu

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> 5

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Mercury

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Rajas

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> 6

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Venus

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> 7

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Ketu

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> 8

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Saturn

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Tamas

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> 9

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Mars

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the

> >>> Varachakra.

> >>> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or

> >>> unlock

> >>> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the

> >>> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are

> >>> caused

> >>> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is

> >>> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the

> >>> fourth

> >>> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of

> >>> cancer.

> >>> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised

> >>> along

> >>> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous

> >>> system

> >>> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this

> >>> issue

> >>> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya

> >>> bijas.

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one

aspect

> >>> of

> >>> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. if

> >>> for

> >>> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native

> >>> will

> >>> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong

> >>> application

> >>> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as

> >>> locked

> >>> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly

> >>> if Moon

> >>> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a Blue

> >>> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from

the

> >>> Moon

> >>> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives.

> >>> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra

> >>> in this

> >>> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented

with

> >>> > >> them, this is what I have to share.

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Somanatha Drekkana

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it

is

> >>> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein graha

> >>> lording

> >>> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body and

> >>> will

> >>> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore

not

> >>> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is

> >>> the

> >>> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the

> >>> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the

> >>> partner

> >>> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably

> >>> also

> >>> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase the

> >>> > >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone

> >>> should

> >>> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the

best

> >>> and

> >>> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice

> >>> intelligently.

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Hope this helps to share insight.

> >>> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >>> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> >>> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com

> >>> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> chandan486 skrev:

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya||

> >>> > >>>

> >>> > >>> dear visti,

> >>> > >>> namaste.

> >>> > >>>

> >>> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the

> >>> advent of

> >>> > >>> Rahu

> >>> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent

> >>> answered .. is

> >>> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is

it

> >>> real

> >>> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone

> >>> exchange !!

> >>> > >>>

> >>> > >>> however , first we need to really understand , that

> >>> conjunction

> >>> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other

completely ?

> >>> or

> >>> > >>> only do

> >>> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ?

> >>> > >>>

> >>> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then

> >>> what does

> >>> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the

> >>> same , then

> >>> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ?

> >>> > >>>

> >>> > >>> humble regards,

> >>> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal.

> >>> > >>>

> >>> > >>> <%40>, Visti Larsen

> >>> > >>> <visti@> wrote:

> >>> > >>> >

> >>> > >>> > ??? ??? ?????

> >>> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar.

> >>> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail

time,

> >>> but

> >>> > >>> through his

> >>> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was

> >>> untouched. It was

> >>> > >>> not

> >>> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence

pointing

> >>> out

> >>> > >>> clearly

> >>> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was

> >>> perfect

> >>> > >>> advise...

> >>> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How

> >>> many can

> >>> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once

> >>> following a

> >>> > >>> > remedial measure?

> >>> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >>> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> >>> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/

> >>> <http://srigaruda.com/>>

> >>> > >>> > @: visti@

> >>> > >>> >

> >>> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:

> >>> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya||

> >>> > >>> > >

> >>> > >>> > > dear swee and visti,

> >>> > >>> > > namaste !

> >>> > >>> > >

> >>> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail

> >>> and also

> >>> > >>> being

> >>> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that

> >>> eventually

> >>> > >>> came

> >>> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members

and

> >>> > >>> associates

> >>> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the

> >>> > >>> briefcase ,

> >>> > >>> in

> >>> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million .

> >>> > >>> > >

> >>> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is

being

> >>> > >>> advised to

> >>> > >>> worn

> >>> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in

10th

> >>> House ,

> >>> > >>> merc

> >>> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic

> >>> theory

> >>> > >>> behind

> >>> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on

> >>> your website

> >>> > >>> where

> >>> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual

> >>> exhange of

> >>> > >>> houses

> >>> > >>> > > and not simply conj....

> >>> > >>> > >

> >>> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in

> >>> Dasas's ... but

> >>> > >>> actual

> >>> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon

> >>> Rasi /

> >>> > >>> Dasamasa !

> >>> > >>> > >

> >>> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just

> >>> based upon

> >>> > >>> rasi and

> >>> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is

> >>> > >>> concerend ?

> >>> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in

Narasimha's

> >>> case ,

> >>> > >>> somehow

> >>> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald

> >>> that he

> >>> > >>> should

> >>> > >>> have

> >>> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ...

> >>> > >>> > >

> >>> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so

> >>> once again

> >>> > >>> emerald.

> >>> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out ,

> >>> glad swee

> >>> > >>> bought

> >>> > >>> > > it up !!

> >>> > >>> > >

> >>> > >>> > > humbly yours,

> >>> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal.

> >>> > >>> > >

> >>> > >>> >

> >>> > >>>

> >>> > >>

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> >>> ------------

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> >>> now.

> >>> > >>

> >>>

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December 17, 2008

om namo bhagavate narasimhaya

Dear Zoranji , Namaskar

Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral then the answer

was:

Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do gemstones.

Does that clarify?

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

----------

Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana.

June 28, 1921

Time: 12:49:00

Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT)

Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00"

In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is third and eight

lord, so the question is the same :

a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon and Surya yuti

we perscribe Ruby

or

b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for Narasimha Rao?

If there is no answer to this simple question then just admit it and

please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

-----------------------------

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rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

-----------------------------

Consultations and Pages:

rafal

ahimsavm pisze:

Om Namah Shivaya,

Dear Rafal,

What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has very

precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are reversed,

so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we subsitute the

gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing their

signification, since one pada of dharma remains uninfluenced. So,

parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in Full

reversal (Parivartana), I have seen Sanjayji recommending the

change

of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th house and

Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani and Shukra.

Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji recommended

Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra specifically.This

was

further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well.

Best wishes

Zoran Radosavljevic

,

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme

wrote:

>

> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar

>

> The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on yuti

or

> parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for

yuti, now

> Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with

Shani

> its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha Shani

will

> work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha

which is

> 9L so getting out of durbhagya.

>

> How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How can

you

> perscribe 6L gem?

>

> Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done ONLY

in

> PARIVARTANA. "

>

> How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao?

>

> Or I have missed something?

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> -----------------------------

> Consultations and Pages:

> rafal

>

> Visti Larsen pisze:

> >

> > ??? ??? ?????

> > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

> > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That

would

give

> > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki

is

> > rising here.

> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > ----------

> > www: http://srigaruda.com

> > @: visti

> >

> > ahimsavm skrev:

> >

> >> Om Namah Shivaya,

> >> Dear Rafal,

> >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct.

However, this

> >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If

you

have

> >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never

prescribe

> >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th

house. In

that

> >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health.

> >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block

the

Shani

> >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should

be in

good

> >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is

MOti

> >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for

Mangal and

> >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of

bad

luck.

> >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the

chart.

> >> Best wishes

> >> Zoran Radosavljevic

> >> www.siva-edu.info

> >> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

> >>

> >> <%40>,

Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme@>

> >> wrote:

> >> >

> >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar

> >> >

> >> > Yes.

> >> >

> >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should

perscribe

Neelam

> >> to

> >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal?

> >> >

> >> > Regards,

> >> > Rafal Gendarz

> >> > -----------------------------

> >> > Consultations and Pages:

> >> > http://rohinaa.com

<http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c

> >> > rafal@

> >> >

> >> > Visti Larsen pisze:

> >> > >

> >> > > ??? ??? ?????

> >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.

> >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the

parivartana done

> >> otherwise

> >> > > then he would not have cancer.

> >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely

caused by

Jupiter in

> >> this

> >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of

mother from past

life

> >> and

> >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu.

> >> > > Still the advise is the same.

> >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >> > > ----------

> >> > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>

> >> > > @: visti@

> >> > >

> >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev:

> >> > >

> >> > >> Dear Visti

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information.

Really wonderful

mail.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has

been detected with

> >> liver

> >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six

months time to live.

In

> >> his

> >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should

he wear a

pokhraj

> >> instead

> >> > >> of diamond?

> >> > >>

> >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice

it woiuld be

great..

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 23rd march 1977

> >> > >> 12:20 pm

> >> > >> calcutta

> >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi..

> >> > >>

> >> > >> -Regards

> >> > >> Rajarshi

> >> > >>

> >> > >> /*

> >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava

- Shiva Sutra*

> >> > >> */

> >> > >>

> >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S(trbac

/<majastrbacastro@>/*

> >> wrote:

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@>

> >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing

gemstone on

> >> divisonal

> >> > >> charts ?

> >> > >>

> >> <%40>

> >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Om Gurave Namah

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste

> >> > >>

> >> > >> WOW!

> >> > >>

> >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow

is a "Marry

> >> Christmas

> >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance".

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us!

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Warm Regards,

> >> > >> Maja Strbac

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat

> >> > >>

> >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen

/<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

> >> com>/* wrote:

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

com>

> >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing

gemstone on

> >> > >> divisonal charts ?

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM

> >> > >>

> >> > >> ??? ??? ?????

> >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

> >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my

last mail, I

> >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so

here is what

> >> I

> >> > >> have learned and have to share.

> >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg.

gemstones with

> >> time

> >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for

reference):

> >> > >>

> >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones

belongs to the

> >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning

to protect

> >> the

> >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person

may be

> >> making a

> >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick

to the right

> >> one.

> >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect

the body,

> >> there

> >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the

protection of the

> >> body,

> >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely.

> >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but

does not

> >> literally

> >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to

treasure, jewel,

> >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the

word /ra-/

> >> meaning a

> >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches.

(Monier-Williams)

> >> > >>

> >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to

nine types of

> >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl),

vajra

> >> (diamond),

> >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz),

indrani-la

> >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata

(emerald), vaidu-

> >> rya

> >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda

(hessonite)./

> >> For the

> >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means

nine in vedic

> >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated

as Topaz by

> >> most,

> >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p.

174) does

> >> state

> >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga

/can be

> >> regarded

> >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or

/padmara-ga

> >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la

> >> (Sapphire) /we must

> >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can

be regarded

> >> as

> >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga

/(topaz). Hence,

> >> whilst

> >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of

/indrani-la/ the

> >> > >> colour of them being different also

differentiates the

> >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details

should be

> >> learned

> >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the

particle of a ratna

> >> which

> >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines

in it and has no

> >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of

a ratna is for

> >> the

> >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and

protecting you.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Ratnaka-raka

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known

as Dhatu. Moon,

> >> Mars,

> >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and

among them Moon

> >> rules over

> >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth,

Saturn over the

raw

> >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu

rules over the

> >> rare

> >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence,

Moon is Ratna ka-

> >> raka

> >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana

and Somanatha

> >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge

the effect of

> >> gemstones.

> >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones

karma and this

> >> is

> >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha

drekkana is apt to

> >> judge

> >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this

divisional

chart

> >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong

ojas can grant

> >> fame,

> >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used

to see ones

> >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones

ojas is used.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also

known

> >> as /gunatmaka/,

> >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or

attributes. Hence to

> >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone

vis-a-vis other

> >> gemstones we

> >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for

other purposes

> >> and is

> >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This

will be

explained

> >> > >> further below.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be

understood from

> >> Vedic

> >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The

four fingers

> >> represent

> >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma

respectively for the index,

> >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is

advised on the

> >> index

> >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and

increasing ahamkara.

> >> The

> >> > >> following table has been culled out of the

same work.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath)

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Ratna

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Finger

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Ruby

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Pearl

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from

index)

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Coral

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from

index)

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Emerald

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from

index)

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Diamond

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Blue Sapphire

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from

index)

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Hessonite

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from

index)

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Cats eye

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from

index)

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do

great good for

> >> the

> >> > >> human race and they have natural

(Naisargika)

> >> characteristics

> >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a

lady wishing to be

a

> >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a

pushpara-ga

> >> (topaz)

> >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a

person having

> >> cancer

> >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya

mantra. These

> >> natural

> >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to

all the

> >> gemstones and

> >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992,

p. 1.55)

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Graha

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Ratna

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Translation

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Sun

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Padmara-ga

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Ruby

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Moon

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Mukta

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Pearl

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Mars

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Vidruma

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Coral

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Mercury

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Marakata

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Emerald

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Jupiter

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Pushpara-ga

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Yellow Topaz

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Venus

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Vajra

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Diamond

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Saturn

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Indrani-la

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Blue Sapphire

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Rahu

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Gomeda

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Hessonite

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Ketu

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Vaidu-rya

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Cats eye

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to

applying any

> >> advice and

> >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have

gathered from

my

> >> > >> teacher.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first,

fifth and ninth

> >> house

> >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are

the best gemstones

> >> and

> >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of

life. The first

> >> lord

> >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the

fifth protects the

> >> hands

> >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the

legs, and hence

the

> >> > >> native will always select the best path in

life if the

> >> gemstone

> >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth

lord is the most

> >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used

to advise the

> >> best

> >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of

the body.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause

misfortune, and in

> >> such

> >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Graha in 9^th

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Gemstone advised

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Saturn

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies)

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Rähu

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Ketu

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Gold ring

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Mars

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Pearl

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth

house lords are

> >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and

loss

> >> respectively and

> >> > >> should not be worn.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions

which occur on

> >> account of

> >> > >> Yoga.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes)

> >> > >>

> >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting

the four ayana or

> >> goals

> >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha,

ka-ma and moksha

> >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or

fourth pada of a

> >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and

watery signs

> >> respectively.

> >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with

another, then the

> >> other

> >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the

former graha.

> >> Therefore,

> >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with

the sixth lord the

> >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be

advised.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another

graha it takes on

> >> three of

> >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which

three ayana

> >> depends on

> >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii)

the two signs

> >> adjacent

> >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is

joined Venus then

> >> Sun

> >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a

case should Sun

be

> >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it

would give the

> >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being

in an earthy

> >> Navamsha,

> >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that

of a fiery sign

> >> and

> >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun

would give the

> >> effects of

> >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana

(airy) as well,

> >> but

> >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery).

> >> > >>

> >> > >> If three or more graha join then the

interchange of effects

> >> will

> >> > >> be decided based on the natural

benefic/malefic indications

> >> of

> >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and

Mercury join then

the

> >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will

interchange

> >> results,

> >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to

interchange results

> >> whilst

> >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of

anyone. Similarly

> >> apply

> >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi

and Parivartana

> >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this

purpose as they

> >> only

> >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four

ayana of a

> >> graha, yet

> >> > >> are still applied when timing events.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Va-rachakra

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra

> >> > >>

> >> > >> #

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Graha

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 1

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Sun

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 2

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Moon

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 3

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Mars

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 4

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Mercury

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 5

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Jupiter

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 6

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Venus

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 7

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Saturn

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 8

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Rähu

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 9

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Ketu

> >> > >>

> >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth,

eighth or twelfth

> >> lords

> >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are

causing excessive

> >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when

another graha is

> >> causing

> >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying

it of its

positive

> >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was

recalled to have

> >> given the

> >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna,

as Sun was in the

> >> sixth

> >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that

specific scenario

> >> the

> >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated

legal battles.

> >> The

> >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is

further explained

> >> as:

> >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas

(10^th , 1^st or

> >> 5^th

> >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse

on the third

> >> graha in

> >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the

order of weekdays

> >> the

> >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence

when Rähu is in the

> >> tenth

> >> > >> house the native will have problems on

account of the house

> >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their

life. Similarly

> >> if

> >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is

placed in the fifth

> >> house

> >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter

will be

hampered.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of

Jyotish, and

> >> this is

> >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the

Brighu Sutras.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Gunachakra

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra

> >> > >>

> >> > >> #

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Graha

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Guna

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 1

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Sun

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Satva

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 2

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Moon

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 3

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Jupiter

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 4

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Rähu

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 5

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Mercury

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Rajas

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 6

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Venus

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 7

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Ketu

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 8

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Saturn

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Tamas

> >> > >>

> >> > >> 9

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Mars

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently

than the

> >> Varachakra.

> >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can

choose to lock or

> >> unlock

> >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh

graha in the

> >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer

and tumours are

> >> caused

> >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in

the body and is

> >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the

Gunachakra the

> >> fourth

> >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block

the spread of

> >> cancer.

> >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing

diamond is advised

> >> along

> >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can

cause nervous

> >> system

> >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes,

and to block this

> >> issue

> >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with

the Mrtyunjaya

> >> bijas.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the

native in one aspect

> >> of

> >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is

required. I.e. if

> >> for

> >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in

Libra, the native

> >> will

> >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account

of wrong

> >> application

> >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect

can be deemed as

> >> locked

> >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is

advised. Similarly

> >> if Moon

> >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha

bhanga then a Blue

> >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the

seventh graha from the

> >> Moon

> >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these

negatives.

> >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of

the Gunachakra

> >> in this

> >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have

been presented

with

> >> > >> them, this is what I have to share.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the

Rashi chart it

is

> >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha

Drekkana. Herein graha

> >> lording

> >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas

in the body and

> >> will

> >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone

is therefore

not

> >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the

twelfth as this is

> >> the

> >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing

celibacy to the

> >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth

lords affect the

> >> partner

> >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones

should preferably

> >> also

> >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem

can increase the

> >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising

this gemstone

> >> should

> >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna

lord is the best

> >> and

> >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this

advice

> >> intelligently.

> >> > >>

> >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight.

> >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- ---------

----

> >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com

> >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> >> > >>

> >> > >> chandan486 skrev:

> >> > >>

> >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya||

> >> > >>>

> >> > >>> dear visti,

> >> > >>> namaste.

> >> > >>>

> >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into

troubles with the

> >> advent of

> >> > >>> Rahu

> >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still

you havent

> >> answered .. is

> >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's

gemstones ? or is it

> >> real

> >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition

for gemtsone

> >> exchange !!

> >> > >>>

> >> > >>> however , first we need to really

understand , that

> >> conjunction

> >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each

other completely ?

> >> or

> >> > >>> only do

> >> > >>> they give each others effects in the

dasha ?

> >> > >>>

> >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like

each other ? then

> >> what does

> >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the

same ? if not the

> >> same , then

> >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then

a conj ?

> >> > >>>

> >> > >>> humble regards,

> >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal.

> >> > >>>

> >> > >>> <%40>,

Visti Larsen

> >> > >>> <visti@> wrote:

> >> > >>> >

> >> > >>> > ??? ??? ?????

> >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar.

> >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal

issues and jail time,

> >> but

> >> > >>> through his

> >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of

Mars he was

> >> untouched. It was

> >> > >>> not

> >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw

problems, hence pointing

> >> out

> >> > >>> clearly

> >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral

during Mars mahadasa was

> >> perfect

> >> > >>> advise...

> >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister

after wearing it! How

> >> many can

> >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client

attaining that once

> >> following a

> >> > >>> > remedial measure?

> >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> >> > >>> > ------------ --------- ---------

--------- ----

> >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/

> >> <http://srigaruda.com/>>

> >> > >>> > @: visti@

> >> > >>> >

> >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:

> >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya||

> >> > >>> > >

> >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti,

> >> > >>> > > namaste !

> >> > >>> > >

> >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV

Narasimha going to jail

> >> and also

> >> > >>> being

> >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th

house effects) , that

> >> eventually

> >> > >>> came

> >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of

his own party members

and

> >> > >>> associates

> >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of

bribery and even showed the

> >> > >>> briefcase ,

> >> > >>> in

> >> > >>> > > which he was actually

deliveered INR 10 million .

> >> > >>> > >

> >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned ,

that a red coral is being

> >> > >>> advised to

> >> > >>> worn

> >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of

Mars and Mercury in 10th

> >> House ,

> >> > >>> merc

> >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt

somehow comprehend the basic

> >> theory

> >> > >>> behind

> >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember

reading somehwere on

> >> your website

> >> > >>> where

> >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete

parivartana is actual

> >> exhange of

> >> > >>> houses

> >> > >>> > > and not simply conj....

> >> > >>> > >

> >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of

each others in

> >> Dasas's ... but

> >> > >>> actual

> >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience /

benificience is based upon

> >> Rasi /

> >> > >>> Dasamasa !

> >> > >>> > >

> >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly

advise a gemstone just

> >> based upon

> >> > >>> rasi and

> >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa ,

especially when career is

> >> > >>> concerend ?

> >> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana

Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's

> >> case ,

> >> > >>> somehow

> >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should

have been the Emerald

> >> that he

> >> > >>> should

> >> > >>> have

> >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ...

> >> > >>> > >

> >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna

Yoga with the Sun , so

> >> once again

> >> > >>> emerald.

> >> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick

up this thing with out ,

> >> glad swee

> >> > >>> bought

> >> > >>> > > it up !!

> >> > >>> > >

> >> > >>> > > humbly yours,

> >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal.

> >> > >>> > >

> >> > >>> >

> >> > >>>

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December 18, 2008

Om Namah Shivaya,

Dear Rafal,

I am very surprised to see that you got the impression that I was

trying to make you a fool, which is apsurd of course.

Example chart of Pt. Narasimha Rao was many times discussed by

Sanjaji in lectures, and one of the main points in this chart and

the choice of the stone where conjunction was considered is Veepreta

Raja Yoga with power transfer, where Mars played a crucial role

being in digbala stana. I beleive that the whole explanation can be

found in the file section with SJC lectures.

Best wishes

Zoran Radosavljevic

THe example with

, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme

wrote:

>

> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> Dear Zoranji , Namaskar

>

> Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral then the

answer was:

>

> Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

> Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do

gemstones. Does

> that clarify?

> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> ----------

>

> Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana.

>

> June 28, 1921

> Time: 12:49:00

> Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT)

> Place: 79 E 09' 00 " , 18 N 26' 00 "

>

> In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is third and

eight

> lord, so the question is the same :

>

> a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon and Surya

yuti

> we perscribe Ruby

>

> or

>

> b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for Narasimha Rao?

>

> If there is no answer to this simple question then just admit it

and

> please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> -----------------------------

> Consultations and Pages:

> rafal

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> -----------------------------

> Consultations and Pages:

> rafal

>

> ahimsavm pisze:

> >

> > Om Namah Shivaya,

> > Dear Rafal,

> > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has very

> > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are

reversed,

> > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we subsitute

the

> > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing their

> > signification, since one pada of dharma remains uninfluenced. So,

> > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in Full

> > reversal (Parivartana), I have seen Sanjayji recommending the

change

> > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th house and

> > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani and

Shukra.

> > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji

recommended

> > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra specifically.This

was

> > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well.

> > Best wishes

> > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > www.siva-edu.info

> > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

> >

> > <%40>, Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar

> > >

> > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on

yuti

> > or

> > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for

> > yuti, now

> > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is

with

> > Shani

> > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha

Shani

> > will

> > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha

> > which is

> > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya.

> > >

> > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How

can

> > you

> > > perscribe 6L gem?

> > >

> > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done

ONLY

> > in

> > > PARIVARTANA. "

> > >

> > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao?

> > >

> > > Or I have missed something?

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > -----------------------------

> > > Consultations and Pages:

> > > rafal@

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen pisze:

> > > >

> > > > ??? ??? ?????

> > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

> > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That

would

> > give

> > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that

Zoki is

> > > > rising here.

> > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > > ----------

> > > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>

> > > > @: visti@

> > > >

> > > > ahimsavm skrev:

> > > >

> > > >> Om Namah Shivaya,

> > > >> Dear Rafal,

> > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However,

this

> > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you

> > have

> > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never

> > prescribe

> > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house.

In

> > that

> > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health.

> > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block

the

> > Shani

> > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be

in

> > good

> > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti

> > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for

Mangal and

> > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad

> > luck.

> > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the

chart.

> > > >> Best wishes

> > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic

> > > >> www.siva-edu.info

> > > >> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

> > > >>

> > <%40>

> > > >> <%40>, Rafal Gendarz

> > <starsuponme@>

> > > >> wrote:

> > > >> >

> > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Yes.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should

perscribe

> > Neelam

> > > >> to

> > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal?

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Regards,

> > > >> > Rafal Gendarz

> > > >> > -----------------------------

> > > >> > Consultations and Pages:

> > > >> > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>

> > > >> > rafal@

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze:

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > ??? ??? ?????

> > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.

> > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana

done

> > > >> otherwise

> > > >> > > then he would not have cancer.

> > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by

> > Jupiter in

> > > >> this

> > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from

past

> > life

> > > >> and

> > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu.

> > > >> > > Still the advise is the same.

> > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > >> > > ----------

> > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>

> > > >> > > @: visti@

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev:

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > >> Dear Visti

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really

wonderful

> > mail.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected

with

> > > >> liver

> > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to

live.

> > In

> > > >> his

> > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a

> > pokhraj

> > > >> instead

> > > >> > >> of diamond?

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be

> > great..

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977

> > > >> > >> 12:20 pm

> > > >> > >> calcutta

> > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi..

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> -Regards

> > > >> > >> Rajarshi

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> /*

> > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva

Sutra*

> > > >> > >> */

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S

(trbac /<majastrbacastro@>/*

> > > >> wrote:

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@>

> > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on

> > > >> divisonal

> > > >> > >> charts ?

> > > >> > >>

> > <%40>

> > > >> <%40>

> > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> WOW!

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a " Marry

> > > >> Christmas

> > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance " .

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us!

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Warm Regards,

> > > >> > >> Maja Strbac

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

> > > >> com>/* wrote:

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

> > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on

> > > >> > >> divisonal charts ?

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> ??? ??? ?????

> > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

> > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I

> > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what

> > > >> I

> > > >> > >> have learned and have to share.

> > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with

> > > >> time

> > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for reference):

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the

> > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect

> > > >> the

> > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be

> > > >> making a

> > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right

> > > >> one.

> > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body,

> > > >> there

> > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the

> > > >> body,

> > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely.

> > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not

> > > >> literally

> > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel,

> > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/

> > > >> meaning a

> > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of

> > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra

> > > >> (diamond),

> > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la

> > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu-

> > > >> rya

> > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite)./

> > > >> For the

> > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic

> > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by

> > > >> most,

> > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does

> > > >> state

> > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be

> > > >> regarded

> > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga

> > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la

> > > >> (Sapphire) /we must

> > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded

> > > >> as

> > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence,

> > > >> whilst

> > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/

the

> > > >> > >> colour of them being different also differentiates the

> > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be

> > > >> learned

> > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a

ratna

> > > >> which

> > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and

has no

> > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is

for

> > > >> the

> > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu.

Moon,

> > > >> Mars,

> > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon

> > > >> rules over

> > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over

the

> > raw

> > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over

the

> > > >> rare

> > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna

ka-

> > > >> raka

> > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and

Somanatha

> > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of

> > > >> gemstones.

> > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and

this

> > > >> is

> > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt

to

> > > >> judge

> > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional

> > chart

> > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can

grant

> > > >> fame,

> > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones

> > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is

used.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known

> > > >> as /gunatmaka/,

> > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes.

Hence to

> > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other

> > > >> gemstones we

> > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other

purposes

> > > >> and is

> > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be

> > explained

> > > >> > >> further below.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood

from

> > > >> Vedic

> > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers

> > > >> represent

> > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the

index,

> > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on

the

> > > >> index

> > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing

ahamkara.

> > > >> The

> > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the same work.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ratna

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Finger

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ruby

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Pearl

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Coral

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Emerald

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Diamond

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Hessonite

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Cats eye

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good

for

> > > >> the

> > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika)

> > > >> characteristics

> > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing

to be

> > a

> > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga

> > > >> (topaz)

> > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having

> > > >> cancer

> > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra.

These

> > > >> natural

> > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the

> > > >> gemstones and

> > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Graha

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ratna

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Translation

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Sun

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Padmara-ga

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ruby

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Moon

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mukta

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Pearl

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mars

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Vidruma

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Coral

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mercury

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Marakata

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Emerald

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Jupiter

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Venus

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Vajra

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Diamond

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Saturn

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Indrani-la

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Rahu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Gomeda

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Hessonite

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ketu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Cats eye

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any

> > > >> advice and

> > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered

from

> > my

> > > >> > >> teacher.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and

ninth

> > > >> house

> > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best

gemstones

> > > >> and

> > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The

first

> > > >> lord

> > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects

the

> > > >> hands

> > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and

hence

> > the

> > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in life if the

> > > >> gemstone

> > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the

most

> > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise

the

> > > >> best

> > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune,

and in

> > > >> such

> > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Gemstone advised

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Saturn

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Rähu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ketu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Gold ring

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mars

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Pearl

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords

are

> > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss

> > > >> respectively and

> > > >> > >> should not be worn.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on

> > > >> account of

> > > >> > >> Yoga.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four

ayana or

> > > >> goals

> > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and

moksha

> > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada

of a

> > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs

> > > >> respectively.

> > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then

the

> > > >> other

> > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha.

> > > >> Therefore,

> > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth

lord the

> > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes

on

> > > >> three of

> > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana

> > > >> depends on

> > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two

signs

> > > >> adjacent

> > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus

then

> > > >> Sun

> > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should

Sun

> > be

> > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give

the

> > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy

> > > >> Navamsha,

> > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery

sign

> > > >> and

> > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the

> > > >> effects of

> > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as

well,

> > > >> but

> > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery).

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of

effects

> > > >> will

> > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic

indications

> > > >> of

> > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join

then

> > the

> > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange

> > > >> results,

> > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results

> > > >> whilst

> > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone.

Similarly

> > > >> apply

> > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and

Parivartana

> > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as

they

> > > >> only

> > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a

> > > >> graha, yet

> > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Va-rachakra

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> #

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Graha

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 1

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Sun

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 2

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Moon

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 3

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mars

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 4

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mercury

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 5

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Jupiter

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 6

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Venus

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 7

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Saturn

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 8

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Rähu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 9

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ketu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or

twelfth

> > > >> lords

> > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing

excessive

> > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha

is

> > > >> causing

> > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its

> > positive

> > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have

> > > >> given the

> > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was

in the

> > > >> sixth

> > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific

scenario

> > > >> the

> > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal

battles.

> > > >> The

> > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further

explained

> > > >> as:

> > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th ,

1^st or

> > > >> 5^th

> > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the

third

> > > >> graha in

> > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of

weekdays

> > > >> the

> > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is

in the

> > > >> tenth

> > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on account of the

house

> > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life.

Similarly

> > > >> if

> > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the

fifth

> > > >> house

> > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be

> > hampered.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and

> > > >> this is

> > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Gunachakra

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> #

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Graha

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Guna

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 1

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Sun

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Satva

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 2

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Moon

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 3

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Jupiter

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 4

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Rähu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 5

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mercury

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Rajas

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 6

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Venus

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 7

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ketu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 8

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Saturn

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Tamas

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 9

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mars

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the

> > > >> Varachakra.

> > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock

or

> > > >> unlock

> > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in

the

> > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours

are

> > > >> caused

> > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and

is

> > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra

the

> > > >> fourth

> > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of

> > > >> cancer.

> > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is

advised

> > > >> along

> > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause

nervous

> > > >> system

> > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block

this

> > > >> issue

> > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the

Mrtyunjaya

> > > >> bijas.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one

aspect

> > > >> of

> > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e.

if

> > > >> for

> > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the

native

> > > >> will

> > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong

> > > >> application

> > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed

as

> > > >> locked

> > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised.

Similarly

> > > >> if Moon

> > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a

Blue

> > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha

from the

> > > >> Moon

> > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives.

> > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the

Gunachakra

> > > >> in this

> > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented

> > with

> > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart

it

> > is

> > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein

graha

> > > >> lording

> > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body

and

> > > >> will

> > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is

therefore

> > not

> > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as

this is

> > > >> the

> > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to

the

> > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect

the

> > > >> partner

> > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should

preferably

> > > >> also

> > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase

the

> > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising this

gemstone

> > > >> should

> > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the

best

> > > >> and

> > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice

> > > >> intelligently.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight.

> > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com

> > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev:

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya||

> > > >> > >>>

> > > >> > >>> dear visti,

> > > >> > >>> namaste.

> > > >> > >>>

> > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the

> > > >> advent of

> > > >> > >>> Rahu

> > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent

> > > >> answered .. is

> > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or

is it

> > > >> real

> > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone

> > > >> exchange !!

> > > >> > >>>

> > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand , that

> > > >> conjunction

> > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other

completely ?

> > > >> or

> > > >> > >>> only do

> > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ?

> > > >> > >>>

> > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ?

then

> > > >> what does

> > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the

> > > >> same , then

> > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ?

> > > >> > >>>

> > > >> > >>> humble regards,

> > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal.

> > > >> > >>>

> > > >> > >>> <%40>, Visti Larsen

> > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote:

> > > >> > >>> >

> > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ?????

> > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar.

> > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail

time,

> > > >> but

> > > >> > >>> through his

> > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was

> > > >> untouched. It was

> > > >> > >>> not

> > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence

pointing

> > > >> out

> > > >> > >>> clearly

> > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa

was

> > > >> perfect

> > > >> > >>> advise...

> > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it!

How

> > > >> many can

> > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that

once

> > > >> following a

> > > >> > >>> > remedial measure?

> > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/

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> > > >> <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>>

> > > >> > >>> > @: visti@

> > > >> > >>> >

> > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:

> > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya||

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti,

> > > >> > >>> > > namaste !

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to

jail

> > > >> and also

> > > >> > >>> being

> > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that

> > > >> eventually

> > > >> > >>> came

> > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party

members

> > and

> > > >> > >>> associates

> > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed

the

> > > >> > >>> briefcase ,

> > > >> > >>> in

> > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million .

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is

being

> > > >> > >>> advised to

> > > >> > >>> worn

> > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in

10th

> > > >> House ,

> > > >> > >>> merc

> > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the

basic

> > > >> theory

> > > >> > >>> behind

> > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on

> > > >> your website

> > > >> > >>> where

> > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is

actual

> > > >> exhange of

> > > >> > >>> houses

> > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj....

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in

> > > >> Dasas's ... but

> > > >> > >>> actual

> > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based

upon

> > > >> Rasi /

> > > >> > >>> Dasamasa !

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just

> > > >> based upon

> > > >> > >>> rasi and

> > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when career

is

> > > >> > >>> concerend ?

> > > >> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in

Narasimha's

> > > >> case ,

> > > >> > >>> somehow

> > > >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald

> > > >> that he

> > > >> > >>> should

> > > >> > >>> have

> > > >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ...

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun ,

so

> > > >> once again

> > > >> > >>> emerald.

> > > >> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with

out ,

> > > >> glad swee

> > > >> > >>> bought

> > > >> > >>> > > it up !!

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > humbly yours,

> > > >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal.

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> >

> > > >> > >>>

> > > >> > >>

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December 18, 2008

||aum namah shivaya||

dear visti,

namaste.

Well , rahu / shani placed in 9th or aspecting 9th house , makes it

imperative to wear a yellow sapphire ! but what is to be done , when

Jupiter itself is not well placed from AL ... lets says placed in 3rd

from AL (MKS) ?

I have this conditoon , but i wore the yellow sapphire with the jeeva

nyasa , seems to be working fine ... just curious , what would you

have done ?

humble regards,

chandan s sabarwal.

, Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

>

> ??? ??? ?????

> Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

> The way to remedy Rahu in ninth is through Yellow Sapphire, and if

no

> other graha are placed there then this is the primary remedy.

Planets

> yuti the lord of the ninth can also cause problems, i.e. Rahu yuti

ninth

> lord also causes durbhagya and requires the same remedy. Thus if

one can

> find a combined remedy for both Rahu and Saturn it would be most

> suitable. Still the Pushparaga is the primary remedy. I do know of

one

> such situation where the native wore a Yellow Heliodore to remedy

this

> problem of Shani-Rahu dosha on the ninth.

> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> ----------

> www: http://srigaruda.com

> @: visti

>

> chandan486 skrev:

> >

> > ||aum namah shivaya||

> >

> > dear visti ,

> > namaste ...

> >

> > First of all , thanks a lot for sharing all the invalueable info.

but

> > after reading this , a simple question again pops up!!

> >

> > 1.If a person has mesha lagna and rahu is placed in 9th house ,

> > normally a Yellow sapphire would be advised , as you mentioned in

the

> > article ..

> >

> > but what if jupiter is conj sat ? then also would a yellow

sapphire

> > be advised ? or based on conj , a blue sapphire would now be

choice ?

> > and no unlock rahu in 9th house , a different gemstone based on

> > varachakra would be used ?

> >

> > pls help clear thus understanding ,

> >

> > humble regards,

> > chandan s sabarwal.

> >

>

December 18, 2008

||aum namah shivaya||

Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti,

Namaste.

I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal and you

two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details.

Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal chart

analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i seem to be

correct about the advise for a Red Coral.

1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which can be seen

from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged.

Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have conjoined ,

Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones adjacent to

it , those ayanas will get exchanged.

This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - Kama and

Pisces - Moksha.

Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones adjacent to it

get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and Cancer -

Moksha ..

The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to yuti is

Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a political leader

and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana .

So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised.

Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which Zoran already

mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with nothing to

obstruct.

Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which anyways is

more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala prevails.

2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is Varki ..

Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good idea , as it

only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is best

choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa.

I think i made a pretty neat assemement.

Comments Please !!

humble regards,

Chandan S Sabarwal.

, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme

wrote:

>

> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> Dear Zoranji , Namaskar

>

> Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral then the

answer was:

>

> Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

> Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do gemstones.

Does

> that clarify?

> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> ----------

>

> Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana.

>

> June 28, 1921

> Time: 12:49:00

> Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT)

> Place: 79 E 09' 00 " , 18 N 26' 00 "

>

> In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is third and

eight

> lord, so the question is the same :

>

> a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon and Surya

yuti

> we perscribe Ruby

>

> or

>

> b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for Narasimha Rao?

>

> If there is no answer to this simple question then just admit it

and

> please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> -----------------------------

> Consultations and Pages:

> rafal

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> -----------------------------

> Consultations and Pages:

> rafal

>

> ahimsavm pisze:

> >

> > Om Namah Shivaya,

> > Dear Rafal,

> > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has very

> > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are

reversed,

> > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we subsitute

the

> > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing their

> > signification, since one pada of dharma remains uninfluenced. So,

> > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in Full

> > reversal (Parivartana), I have seen Sanjayji recommending the

change

> > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th house and

> > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani and Shukra.

> > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji

recommended

> > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra specifically.This

was

> > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well.

> > Best wishes

> > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > www.siva-edu.info

> > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

> >

> > <%40>, Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar

> > >

> > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on

yuti

> > or

> > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for

> > yuti, now

> > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with

> > Shani

> > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha

Shani

> > will

> > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha

> > which is

> > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya.

> > >

> > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How

can

> > you

> > > perscribe 6L gem?

> > >

> > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done

ONLY

> > in

> > > PARIVARTANA. "

> > >

> > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao?

> > >

> > > Or I have missed something?

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > -----------------------------

> > > Consultations and Pages:

> > > rafal@

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen pisze:

> > > >

> > > > ??? ??? ?????

> > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

> > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would

> > give

> > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki

is

> > > > rising here.

> > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > > ----------

> > > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>

> > > > @: visti@

> > > >

> > > > ahimsavm skrev:

> > > >

> > > >> Om Namah Shivaya,

> > > >> Dear Rafal,

> > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However,

this

> > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you

> > have

> > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never

> > prescribe

> > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house.

In

> > that

> > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health.

> > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the

> > Shani

> > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be

in

> > good

> > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti

> > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal

and

> > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad

> > luck.

> > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the

chart.

> > > >> Best wishes

> > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic

> > > >> www.siva-edu.info

> > > >> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

> > > >>

> > <%40>

> > > >> <%40>, Rafal Gendarz

> > <starsuponme@>

> > > >> wrote:

> > > >> >

> > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Yes.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe

> > Neelam

> > > >> to

> > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal?

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Regards,

> > > >> > Rafal Gendarz

> > > >> > -----------------------------

> > > >> > Consultations and Pages:

> > > >> > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>

> > > >> > rafal@

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze:

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > ??? ??? ?????

> > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.

> > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done

> > > >> otherwise

> > > >> > > then he would not have cancer.

> > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by

> > Jupiter in

> > > >> this

> > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from

past

> > life

> > > >> and

> > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu.

> > > >> > > Still the advise is the same.

> > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > >> > > ----------

> > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>

> > > >> > > @: visti@

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev:

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > >> Dear Visti

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful

> > mail.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected

with

> > > >> liver

> > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to

live.

> > In

> > > >> his

> > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a

> > pokhraj

> > > >> instead

> > > >> > >> of diamond?

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be

> > great..

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977

> > > >> > >> 12:20 pm

> > > >> > >> calcutta

> > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi..

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> -Regards

> > > >> > >> Rajarshi

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> /*

> > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva

Sutra*

> > > >> > >> */

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S

(trbac /<majastrbacastro@>/*

> > > >> wrote:

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@>

> > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on

> > > >> divisonal

> > > >> > >> charts ?

> > > >> > >>

> > <%40>

> > > >> <%40>

> > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> WOW!

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a " Marry

> > > >> Christmas

> > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance " .

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us!

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Warm Regards,

> > > >> > >> Maja Strbac

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

> > > >> com>/* wrote:

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

> > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on

> > > >> > >> divisonal charts ?

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> ??? ??? ?????

> > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

> > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I

> > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what

> > > >> I

> > > >> > >> have learned and have to share.

> > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with

> > > >> time

> > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for reference):

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the

> > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect

> > > >> the

> > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be

> > > >> making a

> > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right

> > > >> one.

> > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body,

> > > >> there

> > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the

> > > >> body,

> > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely.

> > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not

> > > >> literally

> > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel,

> > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/

> > > >> meaning a

> > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of

> > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra

> > > >> (diamond),

> > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la

> > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu-

> > > >> rya

> > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite)./

> > > >> For the

> > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic

> > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by

> > > >> most,

> > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does

> > > >> state

> > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be

> > > >> regarded

> > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga

> > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la

> > > >> (Sapphire) /we must

> > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded

> > > >> as

> > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence,

> > > >> whilst

> > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the

> > > >> > >> colour of them being different also differentiates the

> > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be

> > > >> learned

> > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a

ratna

> > > >> which

> > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has

no

> > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is

for

> > > >> the

> > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu.

Moon,

> > > >> Mars,

> > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon

> > > >> rules over

> > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the

> > raw

> > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over

the

> > > >> rare

> > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna

ka-

> > > >> raka

> > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and

Somanatha

> > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of

> > > >> gemstones.

> > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and

this

> > > >> is

> > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt

to

> > > >> judge

> > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional

> > chart

> > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can

grant

> > > >> fame,

> > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones

> > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known

> > > >> as /gunatmaka/,

> > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes.

Hence to

> > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other

> > > >> gemstones we

> > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes

> > > >> and is

> > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be

> > explained

> > > >> > >> further below.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood

from

> > > >> Vedic

> > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers

> > > >> represent

> > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the

index,

> > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on

the

> > > >> index

> > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing

ahamkara.

> > > >> The

> > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the same work.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ratna

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Finger

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ruby

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Pearl

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Coral

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Emerald

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Diamond

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Hessonite

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Cats eye

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good

for

> > > >> the

> > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika)

> > > >> characteristics

> > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to

be

> > a

> > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga

> > > >> (topaz)

> > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having

> > > >> cancer

> > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra.

These

> > > >> natural

> > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the

> > > >> gemstones and

> > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Graha

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ratna

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Translation

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Sun

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Padmara-ga

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ruby

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Moon

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mukta

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Pearl

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mars

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Vidruma

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Coral

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mercury

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Marakata

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Emerald

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Jupiter

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Venus

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Vajra

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Diamond

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Saturn

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Indrani-la

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Rahu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Gomeda

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Hessonite

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ketu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Cats eye

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any

> > > >> advice and

> > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered

from

> > my

> > > >> > >> teacher.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and

ninth

> > > >> house

> > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best

gemstones

> > > >> and

> > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The

first

> > > >> lord

> > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects

the

> > > >> hands

> > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence

> > the

> > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in life if the

> > > >> gemstone

> > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the

most

> > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the

> > > >> best

> > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune,

and in

> > > >> such

> > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Gemstone advised

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Saturn

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Rähu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ketu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Gold ring

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mars

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Pearl

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords

are

> > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss

> > > >> respectively and

> > > >> > >> should not be worn.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on

> > > >> account of

> > > >> > >> Yoga.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four

ayana or

> > > >> goals

> > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and

moksha

> > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada

of a

> > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs

> > > >> respectively.

> > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then

the

> > > >> other

> > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha.

> > > >> Therefore,

> > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord

the

> > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on

> > > >> three of

> > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana

> > > >> depends on

> > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs

> > > >> adjacent

> > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus

then

> > > >> Sun

> > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should

Sun

> > be

> > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give

the

> > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy

> > > >> Navamsha,

> > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery

sign

> > > >> and

> > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the

> > > >> effects of

> > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as

well,

> > > >> but

> > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery).

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of

effects

> > > >> will

> > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic

indications

> > > >> of

> > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then

> > the

> > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange

> > > >> results,

> > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results

> > > >> whilst

> > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone.

Similarly

> > > >> apply

> > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and

Parivartana

> > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as

they

> > > >> only

> > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a

> > > >> graha, yet

> > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Va-rachakra

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> #

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Graha

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 1

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Sun

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 2

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Moon

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 3

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mars

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 4

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mercury

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 5

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Jupiter

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 6

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Venus

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 7

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Saturn

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 8

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Rähu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 9

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ketu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or

twelfth

> > > >> lords

> > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing

excessive

> > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha

is

> > > >> causing

> > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its

> > positive

> > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have

> > > >> given the

> > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in

the

> > > >> sixth

> > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific

scenario

> > > >> the

> > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal

battles.

> > > >> The

> > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further

explained

> > > >> as:

> > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th ,

1^st or

> > > >> 5^th

> > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third

> > > >> graha in

> > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of

weekdays

> > > >> the

> > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in

the

> > > >> tenth

> > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on account of the

house

> > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life.

Similarly

> > > >> if

> > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the

fifth

> > > >> house

> > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be

> > hampered.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and

> > > >> this is

> > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Gunachakra

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> #

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Graha

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Guna

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 1

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Sun

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Satva

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 2

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Moon

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 3

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Jupiter

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 4

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Rähu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 5

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mercury

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Rajas

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 6

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Venus

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 7

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ketu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 8

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Saturn

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Tamas

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 9

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mars

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the

> > > >> Varachakra.

> > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or

> > > >> unlock

> > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the

> > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are

> > > >> caused

> > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is

> > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the

> > > >> fourth

> > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of

> > > >> cancer.

> > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised

> > > >> along

> > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous

> > > >> system

> > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block

this

> > > >> issue

> > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the

Mrtyunjaya

> > > >> bijas.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one

aspect

> > > >> of

> > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e.

if

> > > >> for

> > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the

native

> > > >> will

> > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong

> > > >> application

> > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed

as

> > > >> locked

> > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised.

Similarly

> > > >> if Moon

> > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a

Blue

> > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from

the

> > > >> Moon

> > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives.

> > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the

Gunachakra

> > > >> in this

> > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented

> > with

> > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart

it

> > is

> > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein

graha

> > > >> lording

> > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body

and

> > > >> will

> > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore

> > not

> > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this

is

> > > >> the

> > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to

the

> > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the

> > > >> partner

> > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should

preferably

> > > >> also

> > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase

the

> > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone

> > > >> should

> > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the

best

> > > >> and

> > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice

> > > >> intelligently.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight.

> > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com

> > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev:

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya||

> > > >> > >>>

> > > >> > >>> dear visti,

> > > >> > >>> namaste.

> > > >> > >>>

> > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the

> > > >> advent of

> > > >> > >>> Rahu

> > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent

> > > >> answered .. is

> > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or

is it

> > > >> real

> > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone

> > > >> exchange !!

> > > >> > >>>

> > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand , that

> > > >> conjunction

> > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other

completely ?

> > > >> or

> > > >> > >>> only do

> > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ?

> > > >> > >>>

> > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then

> > > >> what does

> > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the

> > > >> same , then

> > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ?

> > > >> > >>>

> > > >> > >>> humble regards,

> > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal.

> > > >> > >>>

> > > >> > >>> <%40>, Visti Larsen

> > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote:

> > > >> > >>> >

> > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ?????

> > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar.

> > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail

time,

> > > >> but

> > > >> > >>> through his

> > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was

> > > >> untouched. It was

> > > >> > >>> not

> > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence

pointing

> > > >> out

> > > >> > >>> clearly

> > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa

was

> > > >> perfect

> > > >> > >>> advise...

> > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it!

How

> > > >> many can

> > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once

> > > >> following a

> > > >> > >>> > remedial measure?

> > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.com/

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> > > >> <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>>

> > > >> > >>> > @: visti@

> > > >> > >>> >

> > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:

> > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya||

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti,

> > > >> > >>> > > namaste !

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail

> > > >> and also

> > > >> > >>> being

> > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that

> > > >> eventually

> > > >> > >>> came

> > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members

> > and

> > > >> > >>> associates

> > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed

the

> > > >> > >>> briefcase ,

> > > >> > >>> in

> > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million .

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is

being

> > > >> > >>> advised to

> > > >> > >>> worn

> > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in

10th

> > > >> House ,

> > > >> > >>> merc

> > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the

basic

> > > >> theory

> > > >> > >>> behind

> > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on

> > > >> your website

> > > >> > >>> where

> > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual

> > > >> exhange of

> > > >> > >>> houses

> > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj....

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in

> > > >> Dasas's ... but

> > > >> > >>> actual

> > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based

upon

> > > >> Rasi /

> > > >> > >>> Dasamasa !

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just

> > > >> based upon

> > > >> > >>> rasi and

> > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when career

is

> > > >> > >>> concerend ?

> > > >> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in

Narasimha's

> > > >> case ,

> > > >> > >>> somehow

> > > >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald

> > > >> that he

> > > >> > >>> should

> > > >> > >>> have

> > > >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ...

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun ,

so

> > > >> once again

> > > >> > >>> emerald.

> > > >> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with

out ,

> > > >> glad swee

> > > >> > >>> bought

> > > >> > >>> > > it up !!

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > humbly yours,

> > > >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal.

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> >

> > > >> > >>>

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> -----------------------

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> > > >> ------------

> > > >> > >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite

them

> > > >> now.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >>

> >

> >

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> > > >> om/invite/>

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > ------------------------

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December 18, 2008

om namo bhagavate narasimhaya

Dear Chandan, Namaskar

So far I have

seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to

trikona lords. Its also hard to seen if person is spiritual or not,

after all dharma

is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage, progeny,

social values etc - big parts of life for materialists.

When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much attention

Sanjayji places towards so called temporal malefics - here Mangal is

definitely temporal malefic

and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we use only

parivartana for gems then based solely on this principle advising Coral

is quite unfortunate decision.

Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its dominated by

Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and tatkalika sambandha here.

So its badly placed by lordship, sambandha

and placement from AL. So Coral is worst.

More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits in 2H in

D3 (Sn).

What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad which

Mangal gives here?

OR

we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon for Meena

Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

-----------------------------

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rafal

chandan486 pisze:

||aum namah shivaya||

Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti,

Namaste.

I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal and you

two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details.

Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal chart

analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i seem to be

correct about the advise for a Red Coral.

1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which can be seen

from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged.

Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have conjoined ,

Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones adjacent to

it , those ayanas will get exchanged.

This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - Kama and

Pisces - Moksha.

Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones adjacent to it

get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and Cancer -

Moksha ..

The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to yuti is

Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a political leader

and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana .

So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised.

Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which Zoran already

mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with nothing to

obstruct.

Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which anyways is

more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala prevails.

2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is Varki ..

Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good idea , as it

only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is best

choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa.

I think i made a pretty neat assemement.

Comments Please !!

humble regards,

Chandan S Sabarwal.

,

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme

wrote:

>

> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> Dear Zoranji , Namaskar

>

> Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral then the

answer was:

>

> Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

> Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do

gemstones.

Does

> that clarify?

> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> ----------

>

> Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana.

>

> June 28, 1921

> Time: 12:49:00

> Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT)

> Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00"

>

> In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is third and

eight

> lord, so the question is the same :

>

> a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon and Surya

yuti

> we perscribe Ruby

>

> or

>

> b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for Narasimha Rao?

>

> If there is no answer to this simple question then just admit it

and

> please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> -----------------------------

> Consultations and Pages:

> rafal

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> -----------------------------

> Consultations and Pages:

> rafal

>

> ahimsavm pisze:

> >

> > Om Namah Shivaya,

> > Dear Rafal,

> > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has very

> > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are

reversed,

> > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we

subsitute

the

> > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing their

> > signification, since one pada of dharma remains uninfluenced.

So,

> > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in Full

> > reversal (Parivartana), I have seen Sanjayji

recommending the

change

> > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th house

and

> > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani and

Shukra.

> > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji

recommended

> > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra specifically.This

was

> > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well.

> > Best wishes

> > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > www.siva-edu.info

> > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

> >

> > <%40>,

Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar

> > >

> > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem

based on

yuti

> > or

> > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its

also for

> > yuti, now

> > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord

is with

> > Shani

> > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti

graha

Shani

> > will

> > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the

yuti graha

> > which is

> > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya.

> > >

> > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign

? How

can

> > you

> > > perscribe 6L gem?

> > >

> > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be

done

ONLY

> > in

> > > PARIVARTANA. "

> > >

> > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao?

> > >

> > > Or I have missed something?

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > -----------------------------

> > > Consultations and Pages:

> > > rafal@

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen pisze:

> > > >

> > > > ??? ??? ?????

> > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

> > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord?

That would

> > give

> > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points

that Zoki

is

> > > > rising here.

> > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > > ----------

> > > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>

> > > > @: visti@

> > > >

> > > > ahimsavm skrev:

> > > >

> > > >> Om Namah Shivaya,

> > > >> Dear Rafal,

> > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is

correct. However,

this

> > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in

PARIVARTANA. If you

> > have

> > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I

would never

> > prescribe

> > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed

in 8th house.

In

> > that

> > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for

health.

> > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it

would block the

> > Shani

> > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case

Surja should be

in

> > good

> > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another

possibility is MOti

> > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very

good for Mangal

and

> > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the

rise of bad

> > luck.

> > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal

placement in the

chart.

> > > >> Best wishes

> > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic

> > > >> www.siva-edu.info

> > > >> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

> > > >>

> > <%40>

> > > >> <%40>,

Rafal Gendarz

> > <starsuponme@>

> > > >> wrote:

> > > >> >

> > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Yes.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I

should perscribe

> > Neelam

> > > >> to

> > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal?

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Regards,

> > > >> > Rafal Gendarz

> > > >> > -----------------------------

> > > >> > Consultations and Pages:

> > > >> > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>

> > > >> > rafal@

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze:

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > ??? ??? ?????

> > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.

> > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had

the parivartana done

> > > >> otherwise

> > > >> > > then he would not have cancer.

> > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was

solely caused by

> > Jupiter in

> > > >> this

> > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a

curse of mother from

past

> > life

> > > >> and

> > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu.

> > > >> > > Still the advise is the same.

> > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > >> > > ----------

> > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>

> > > >> > > @: visti@

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev:

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > >> Dear Visti

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that

information. Really wonderful

> > mail.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person

who has been detected

with

> > > >> liver

> > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him

six months time to

live.

> > In

> > > >> his

> > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with

venus. Should he wear a

> > pokhraj

> > > >> instead

> > > >> > >> of diamond?

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look

and advice it woiuld be

> > great..

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977

> > > >> > >> 12:20 pm

> > > >> > >> calcutta

> > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi..

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> -Regards

> > > >> > >> Rajarshi

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> /*

> > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness)

is Bhairava - Shiva

Sutra*

> > > >> > >> */

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S

(trbac /<majastrbacastro@>/*

> > > >> wrote:

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac

<majastrbacastro@>

> > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru]

Re: Choosing gemstone on

> > > >> divisonal

> > > >> > >> charts ?

> > > >> > >>

> > <%40>

> > > >> <%40>

> > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008,

8:47 PM

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> WOW!

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your

email bellow is a "Marry

> > > >> Christmas

> > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance".

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it

with us!

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Warm Regards,

> > > >> > >> Maja Strbac

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti

Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

> > > >> com>/* wrote:

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Visti Larsen

> > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru]

Re: Choosing gemstone on

> > > >> > >> divisonal charts ?

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008,

7:09 AM

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> ??? ??? ?????

> > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

> > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in

full in my last mail, I

> > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one

shares, so here is what

> > > >> I

> > > >> > >> have learned and have to share.

> > > >> > >> I have gathered the following

rules reg. gemstones with

> > > >> time

> > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my

website for reference):

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or

gemstones belongs to the

> > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e.

Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect

> > > >> the

> > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when

a person may be

> > > >> making a

> > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them

to stick to the right

> > > >> one.

> > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones

to protect the body,

> > > >> there

> > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove

the protection of the

> > > >> body,

> > > >> > >> hence one should advise these

wisely.

> > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is

r/atna/ but does not

> > > >> literally

> > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer

to treasure, jewel,

> > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived

from the word /ra-/

> > > >> meaning a

> > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches.

(Monier-Williams)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically

refers to nine types of

> > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta

(pearl), vajra

> > > >> (diamond),

> > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga

(topaz), indrani-la

> > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire),

marakata (emerald), vaidu-

> > > >> rya

> > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and

gomeda (hessonite)./

> > > >> For the

> > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also

means nine in vedic

> > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been

translated as Topaz by

> > > >> most,

> > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta,

2007, p. 174) does

> > > >> state

> > > >> > >> that different colours of the

/pushpara-ga /can be

> > > >> regarded

> > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la

(sapphire) /or /padmara-ga

> > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the

/indrani-la

> > > >> (Sapphire) /we must

> > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e.

yellow) can be regarded

> > > >> as

> > > >> > >> giving the effects of

/pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence,

> > > >> whilst

> > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same

group of /indrani-la/ the

> > > >> > >> colour of them being different

also differentiates the

> > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly.

Details should be

> > > >> learned

> > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this

regard.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside

in the particle of a

ratna

> > > >> which

> > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks

or lines in it and has

no

> > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the

wearing of a ratna is

for

> > > >> the

> > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to

you and protecting you.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various

metals known as Dhatu.

Moon,

> > > >> Mars,

> > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the

Dhatu and among them Moon

> > > >> rules over

> > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the

earth, Saturn over the

> > raw

> > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons

whilst Ra-hu rules over

the

> > > >> rare

> > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum.

Hence, Moon is Ratna

ka-

> > > >> raka

> > > >> > >> and divisional charts as

Somanatha Drekkana and

Somanatha

> > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important

to judge the effect of

> > > >> gemstones.

> > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana

refers to ones karma and

this

> > > >> is

> > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the

Somanatha drekkana is apt

to

> > > >> judge

> > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones.

Specifically this divisional

> > chart

> > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses

it. Strong ojas can

grant

> > > >> fame,

> > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart

can be used to see ones

> > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality

where ones ojas is used.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones

is also known

> > > >> as /gunatmaka/,

> > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of

/guna/ or attributes.

Hence to

> > > >> > >> understand the effects of a

gemstone vis-a-vis other

> > > >> gemstones we

> > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also

used for other purposes

> > > >> and is

> > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic

numerology. This will be

> > explained

> > > >> > >> further below.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone

on can be understood

from

> > > >> Vedic

> > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay

Rath. The four fingers

> > > >> represent

> > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma

respectively for the

index,

> > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers.

No gem is advised on

the

> > > >> index

> > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking

moksha and increasing

ahamkara.

> > > >> The

> > > >> > >> following table has been culled

out of the same work.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ratna

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Finger

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ruby

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Pearl

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or

4^th from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Coral

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or

3^rd from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Emerald

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or

4^th from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Diamond

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or

4^th from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Hessonite

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or

4^th from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Cats eye

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or

3^rd from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that

gemstones can do great good

for

> > > >> the

> > > >> > >> human race and they have natural

(Naisargika)

> > > >> characteristics

> > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone.

Example: a lady wishing to

be

> > a

> > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from

wearing a pushpara-ga

> > > >> (topaz)

> > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire).

Similarly a person having

> > > >> cancer

> > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite

mrtyunjaya mantra.

These

> > > >> natural

> > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be

applied to all the

> > > >> gemstones and

> > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda

Purana.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha

(Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Graha

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ratna

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Translation

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Sun

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Padmara-ga

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ruby

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Moon

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mukta

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Pearl

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mars

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Vidruma

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Coral

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mercury

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Marakata

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Emerald

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Jupiter

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Venus

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Vajra

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Diamond

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Saturn

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Indrani-la

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Rahu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Gomeda

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Hessonite

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ketu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Cats eye

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it

comes to applying any

> > > >> advice and

> > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice

that I have gathered

from

> > my

> > > >> > >> teacher.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on

the first, fifth and

ninth

> > > >> house

> > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart.

These are the best

gemstones

> > > >> and

> > > >> > >> will support the native in their

purpose of life. The

first

> > > >> lord

> > > >> > >> protects the head and

intelligence, the fifth protects

the

> > > >> hands

> > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth

protects the legs, and hence

> > the

> > > >> > >> native will always select the

best path in life if the

> > > >> gemstone

> > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus

the ninth lord is the

most

> > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can

also be used to advise the

> > > >> best

> > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in

particular parts of the body.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth

house cause misfortune,

and in

> > > >> such

> > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Gemstone advised

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Saturn

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Rähu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ketu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Gold ring

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mars

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Pearl

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or

twelfth house lords

are

> > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife,

disease and loss

> > > >> respectively and

> > > >> > >> should not be worn.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> To both the above there are

exceptions which occur on

> > > >> account of

> > > >> > >> Yoga.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference:

Atri Classes)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by

affecting the four

ayana or

> > > >> goals

> > > >> > >> of the person's life namely

dharma, artha, ka-ma and

moksha

> > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second,

third or fourth pada

of a

> > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy

and watery signs

> > > >> respectively.

> > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana

yoga with another, then

the

> > > >> other

> > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana

of the former graha.

> > > >> Therefore,

> > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in

parivartana with the sixth lord

the

> > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should

be advised.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti

another graha it takes on

> > > >> three of

> > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other

graha. Which three ayana

> > > >> depends on

> > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha

sign ii) the two signs

> > > >> adjacent

> > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If

Sun is joined Venus

then

> > > >> Sun

> > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus.

In such a case should

Sun

> > be

> > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of

Capricorn then it would give

the

> > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due

to being in an earthy

> > > >> Navamsha,

> > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha

before is that of a fiery

sign

> > > >> and

> > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign,

the Sun would give the

> > > >> effects of

> > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and

ka-ma-ayana (airy) as

well,

> > > >> but

> > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery).

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then

the interchange of

effects

> > > >> will

> > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural

benefic/malefic

indications

> > > >> of

> > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter,

Saturn and Mercury join then

> > the

> > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest

benefic will interchange

> > > >> results,

> > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter

to interchange results

> > > >> whilst

> > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the

results of anyone.

Similarly

> > > >> apply

> > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more

grahas.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz.

Samdristi and

Parivartana

> > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account

for this purpose as

they

> > > >> only

> > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the

full four ayana of a

> > > >> graha, yet

> > > >> > >> are still applied when timing

events.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Va-rachakra

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> #

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Graha

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 1

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Sun

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 2

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Moon

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 3

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mars

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 4

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mercury

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 5

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Jupiter

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 6

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Venus

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 7

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Saturn

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 8

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Rähu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 9

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ketu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of

the sixth, eighth or

twelfth

> > > >> lords

> > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those

graha are causing

excessive

> > > >> > >> problems to the native. This

occurs when another graha

is

> > > >> causing

> > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus

denying it of its

> > positive

> > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath

was recalled to have

> > > >> given the

> > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a

Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in

the

> > > >> sixth

> > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth.

In that specific

scenario

> > > >> the

> > > >> > >> native was suffering on account

of repeated legal

battles.

> > > >> The

> > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu.

This is further

explained

> > > >> as:

> > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the

Simhasana bhavas (10^th ,

1^st or

> > > >> 5^th

> > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes

an eclipse on the third

> > > >> graha in

> > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz.

in the order of

weekdays

> > > >> the

> > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun,

hence when Rähu is in

the

> > > >> tenth

> > > >> > >> house the native will have

problems on account of the

house

> > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun

in their life.

Similarly

> > > >> if

> > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only

Mars is placed in the

fifth

> > > >> house

> > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship

of Jupiter will be

> > hampered.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in

matters of Jyotish, and

> > > >> this is

> > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles

in the Brighu Sutras.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Gunachakra

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> #

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Graha

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Guna

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 1

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Sun

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Satva

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 2

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Moon

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 3

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Jupiter

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 4

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Rähu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 5

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mercury

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Rajas

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 6

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Venus

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 7

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ketu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 8

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Saturn

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Tamas

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 9

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mars

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat

differently than the

> > > >> Varachakra.

> > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then

we can choose to lock or

> > > >> unlock

> > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth

or seventh graha in the

> > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example:

cancer and tumours are

> > > >> caused

> > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of

cancer-cells in the body and is

> > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted

Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the

> > > >> fourth

> > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who

can block the spread of

> > > >> cancer.

> > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease

wearing diamond is advised

> > > >> along

> > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly

Mars can cause nervous

> > > >> system

> > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the

likes, and to block

this

> > > >> issue

> > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised

along with the

Mrtyunjaya

> > > >> bijas.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Should a graha already be

blocking the native in one

aspect

> > > >> of

> > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th

graha) is required. I.e.

if

> > > >> for

> > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is

placed in Libra, the

native

> > > >> will

> > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease

on account of wrong

> > > >> application

> > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the

intellect can be deemed

as

> > > >> locked

> > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow

Topaz/Sapphire is advised.

Similarly

> > > >> if Moon

> > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no

ni-cha bhanga then a

Blue

> > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is

the seventh graha from

the

> > > >> Moon

> > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock

these negatives.

> > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more

applications of the

Gunachakra

> > > >> in this

> > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until

I have been presented

> > with

> > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to

share.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone

as per the Rashi chart

it

> > is

> > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the

Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein

graha

> > > >> lording

> > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to

the ojas in the body

and

> > > >> will

> > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality.

This gemstone is therefore

> > not

> > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord

of the twelfth as this

is

> > > >> the

> > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house

causing celibacy to

the

> > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and

eighth lords affect the

> > > >> partner

> > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those

gemstones should

preferably

> > > >> also

> > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third

lord's gem can increase

the

> > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and

advising this gemstone

> > > >> should

> > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of

the lagna lord is the

best

> > > >> and

> > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame.

Apply this advice

> > > >> intelligently.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight.

> > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > >> > >> ------------ --------- ---------

--------- ----

> > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com

> > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev:

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya||

> > > >> > >>>

> > > >> > >>> dear visti,

> > > >> > >>> namaste.

> > > >> > >>>

> > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he

landed into troubles with the

> > > >> advent of

> > > >> > >>> Rahu

> > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now ,

but still you havent

> > > >> answered .. is

> > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each

other's gemstones ? or

is it

> > > >> real

> > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the

condition for gemtsone

> > > >> exchange !!

> > > >> > >>>

> > > >> > >>> however , first we need to

really understand , that

> > > >> conjunction

> > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave

like each other

completely ?

> > > >> or

> > > >> > >>> only do

> > > >> > >>> they give each others effects

in the dasha ?

> > > >> > >>>

> > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets

behave like each other ? then

> > > >> what does

> > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also

do the same ? if not the

> > > >> same , then

> > > >> > >>> whats different abt a

parivartana then a conj ?

> > > >> > >>>

> > > >> > >>> humble regards,

> > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal.

> > > >> > >>>

> > > >> > >>> @

. com

> > > >> > >>> <%40>,

Visti Larsen

> > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote:

> > > >> > >>> >

> > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ?????

> > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee,

Namaskar.

> > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see

the legal issues and jail

time,

> > > >> but

> > > >> > >>> through his

> > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord

Maha Dasa of Mars he was

> > > >> untouched. It was

> > > >> > >>> not

> > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that

he saw problems, hence

pointing

> > > >> out

> > > >> > >>> clearly

> > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the

Coral during Mars mahadasa

was

> > > >> perfect

> > > >> > >>> advise...

> > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime

Minister after wearing it!

How

> > > >> many can

> > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of

a client attaining that once

> > > >> following a

> > > >> > >>> > remedial measure?

> > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti

Larsen

> > > >> > >>> > ------------ ---------

--------- --------- ----

> > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda.

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> > > >> <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>>

> > > >> > >>> > @: visti@

> > > >> > >>> >

> > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:

> > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah

shivaya||

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti,

> > > >> > >>> > > namaste !

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are

right abt PV Narasimha going to jail

> > > >> and also

> > > >> > >>> being

> > > >> > >>> > > held up in

litigation (6th house effects) , that

> > > >> eventually

> > > >> > >>> came

> > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him ,

after some of his own party members

> > and

> > > >> > >>> associates

> > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused

him of bribery and even showed

the

> > > >> > >>> briefcase ,

> > > >> > >>> in

> > > >> > >>> > > which he was

actually deliveered INR 10 million .

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you

mentioned , that a red coral is

being

> > > >> > >>> advised to

> > > >> > >>> worn

> > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon

the conj of Mars and Mercury in

10th

> > > >> House ,

> > > >> > >>> merc

> > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i

cannt somehow comprehend the

basic

> > > >> theory

> > > >> > >>> behind

> > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i

still remember reading somehwere on

> > > >> your website

> > > >> > >>> where

> > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned ,

only complete parivartana is actual

> > > >> exhange of

> > > >> > >>> houses

> > > >> > >>> > > and not simply

conj....

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives

results of each others in

> > > >> Dasas's ... but

> > > >> > >>> actual

> > > >> > >>> > > potency and

maleficience / benificience is based

upon

> > > >> Rasi /

> > > >> > >>> Dasamasa !

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > how could some one

possibly advise a gemstone just

> > > >> based upon

> > > >> > >>> rasi and

> > > >> > >>> > > not even consider

damasa , especially when career

is

> > > >> > >>> concerend ?

> > > >> > >>> > > moreover , that

Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in

Narasimha's

> > > >> case ,

> > > >> > >>> somehow

> > > >> > >>> > > makes me believe ,

it should have been the Emerald

> > > >> that he

> > > >> > >>> should

> > > >> > >>> have

> > > >> > >>> > > worn and not the

red coral ...

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury

forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun ,

so

> > > >> once again

> > > >> > >>> emerald.

> > > >> > >>> > > i had always wanted

to pick up this thing with

out ,

> > > >> glad swee

> > > >> > >>> bought

> > > >> > >>> > > it up !!

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > humbly yours,

> > > >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal.

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> >

> > > >> > >>>

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om namo bhagavate narasimhaya

Dear Guruji, Namaskar

"Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it

takes on

three of the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana depends

on i) the

particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs adjacent that

particular

sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then Sun will give the effects of

Venus.

In such a case should Sun be placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then

it would

give the effects of Venus’ Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy

Navamsha, and

further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign and that after

being an

airy sign, the Sun would give the effects of Venus’ dharma-ayana

(fiery) and kāma-ayana

(airy) as well, but not the moksha-ayana (watery)".

Now we know the interchange is based on:

a. naisargika beneficiency

b. temporal beneficiency

c. avastha

How to combine these three when more than 2 planets are in sign?

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

-----------------------------

Consultations and Pages:

rafal

Visti Larsen pisze:

हरे राम कृष्ण

Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I realise no one

learns if

no one shares, so here is what I have learned and have to share.

I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with time (this will

be republished on my website for reference):

The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the concept of

Tantra, i.e.

Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect the body. This is best to advise when a

person

may be making a wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right

one.

Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, there are

gemstones which

can remove the protection of the body, hence one should advise these

wisely.

Sanskrit word for gemstone is ratna but does not literally mean

gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, precious stone, and is

derived

from the word rā meaning a gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams)

The word ratna specifically refers to

nine

types of

treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra (diamond), padmarāga

(ruby), pushparāga (topaz), indranīla (clear/stainless sapphire),

marakata

(emerald), vaidūrya (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite).

For

the same reason the word ratna also means nine in vedic

numerology. Pushparāga

has been translated as Topaz by most, however the Garuda Purana (Suta,

2007, p. 174)

does state that different colours of the pushparāga can be

regarded as

equal to the indranīla (sapphire) or padmarāga (ruby).

Therefore,

among the indranīla (Sapphire) we must infer that certain

shades (i.e. yellow)

can be regarded as giving the effects of pushparāga (topaz).

Hence,

whilst all sapphires fall in the same group of indranīla the

colour of

them being different also differentiates the effects of wearing them

greatly.

Details should be learned from the Garuda Purana in this regard.

The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle

of

a ratna

which is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no

unusual shades

in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for the sake of keeping a Deva

next to

you and protecting you.

Ratnakāraka

Ratna comes under the various metals known as

Dhatu. Moon,

Mars, Saturn and Rāhu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon rules over

Ratna,

whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the raw minerals such as

oil and

irons whilst Rāhu rules over the rare metals such as Gold and platinum.

Hence,

Moon is Ratna kāraka and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and

Somanatha

Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of gemstones. As

specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this is signified by

ones

hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to judge the effects of gemstones.

Specifically this divisional chart shows ones ojas and how one uses it.

Strong

ojas can grant fame, and hence this divisional chart can be used to see

ones

popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used.

The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known

as

gunatmaka,

i.e .the self in the form of guna or attributes. Hence to

understand the

effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other gemstones we use the gunachakra.

This is

also used for other purposes and is an integral part of Vedic

numerology. This

will be explained further below.

Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be

understood from

Vedic Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers represent

moksha,

artha, dharma and kāma respectively for the index, middle, ring and

little

fingers. No gem is advised on the index finger as it risks blocking

moksha and

increasing ahamkara. The following table has been culled out of the

same work.

Table

2:

Finger and Ratna (Rath)

Ratna

Finger

Ruby

Ring (3rd

from index)

Pearl

Ring or Little

finger (3rd or 4th from index)

Coral

Middle or ring

finger (2nd or 3rd from index)

Emerald

Middle or little

fingers (2nd or 4th from index)

Yellow

Topaz/Yellow Sapphire

Ring (3rd

from index)

Diamond

Ring (3rd

from index)

Blue Sapphire

Middle or little

finger (2nd or 4th from index)

Hessonite

Middle or little

finger (2nd or 4th from index)

Cats eye

Middle or ring

finger (2nd or 3rd from index)

Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great

good for

the human race and they have natural (Naisargika) characteristics which

will

benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be a mother would benefit

greatly

from wearing a pushparāga (topaz) or pokhraj (yellow sapphire).

Similarly a

person having cancer should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya

mantra. These

natural indications of gemstones can be applied to all the gemstones

and the

effects are given in Garuda Purana.

Table

3:

Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55)

Graha

Ratna

Translation

Sun

Padmarāga

Ruby

Moon

Mukta

Pearl

Mars

Vidruma

Coral

Mercury

Marakata

Emerald

Jupiter

Pushparāga

Yellow Topaz

Venus

Vajra

Diamond

Saturn

Indranīla

Blue Sapphire

Rahu

Gomeda

Hessonite

Ketu

Vaidūrya

Cats eye

Tradition is everything when it comes to

applying

any advice

and hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from my

teacher.

Ratna should be advised based on the first,

fifth

and ninth

house lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones and

will

support the native in their purpose of life. The first lord protects

the head

and intelligence, the fifth protects the hands and torso, whilst the

ninth

protects the legs, and hence the native will always select the best

path in

life if the gemstone of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is

the most

auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the best gemstone

for

disease in particular parts of the body.

Malefics placed in the ninth house cause

misfortune, and in

such cases reversal gems are advised.

Graha in 9th

Gemstone advised

Saturn

Ruby (pink ruby

for ladies)

Rähu

Yellow Sapphire

or Yellow Topaz

Ketu

Gold ring

Mars

Pearl

Gemstones of the

sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are inauspicious and cause strife,

disease

and loss respectively and should not be worn.

To both the above there are exceptions which

occur

on

account of Yoga.

Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes)

The graha give their effects by affecting the

four

ayana or

goals of the person’s life namely dharma, artha, kāma and moksha

symbolised by

the first, second, third or fourth pada of a nakshatra, or fiery,

earthy, airy

and watery signs respectively. When a graha is in parivartana yoga with

another, then the other graha will affect all four ayana of the former

graha.

Therefore, if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the

gemstone

of the sixth lord should be advised.

Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it

takes on

three of the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana depends

on i) the

particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs adjacent that

particular

sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then Sun will give the effects of

Venus.

In such a case should Sun be placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then

it would

give the effects of Venus’ Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy

Navamsha, and

further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign and that after

being an

airy sign, the Sun would give the effects of Venus’ dharma-ayana

(fiery) and kāma-ayana

(airy) as well, but not the moksha-ayana (watery).

If three or more graha join then the interchange

of effects

will be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications of the

graha,

viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then the highest malefic and

highest

benefic will interchange results, thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to

interchange

results whilst Mercury will give not give the results of anyone.

Similarly

apply this to conjunction of more grahas.

The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and

Parivartana

dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they only affect

two or one

ayana among the full four ayana of a graha, yet are still applied when

timing

events.

Vārachakra

Table

4:

Varachakra

#

Graha

1

Sun

2

Moon

3

Mars

4

Mercury

5

Jupiter

6

Venus

7

Saturn

8

Rähu

9

Ketu

In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth

or twelfth

lords needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive

problems to the

native. This occurs when another graha is causing an eclipse on that

graha and

thus denying it of its positive effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was

recalled

to have given the advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was

in the

sixth and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario the

native

was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. The reason being on

account

of Rähu. This is further explained as: when a graha occupies the

Simhasana

bhavas (10th, 1st or 5th in that

order) that

graha causes an eclipse on the third graha in the order of the

Varachakra. Viz.

in the order of weekdays the third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence

when Rähu is

in the tenth house the native will have problems on account of the

house

placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly if among the

Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth house then the

placement and

lordship of Jupiter will be hampered.

The Varachakra has many uses in matters of

Jyotish, and this

is the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras.

Gunachakra

Table

1:

Gunachakra

#

Graha

Guna

1

Sun

Satva

2

Moon

3

Jupiter

4

Rähu

5

Mercury

Rajas

6

Venus

7

Ketu

8

Saturn

Tamas

9

Mars

Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than

the Varachakra.

If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or unlock its

indications

using the fourth or seventh graha in the gunachakra respectively.

Example: cancer

and tumours are caused by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the

body and is

signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the fourth graha

from

Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of cancer. Thus to remedy

such a

disease wearing diamond is advised along with Mrtyunjaya mantra.

Similarly Mars

can cause nervous system issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and

to block

this issue a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya

bijas.

Should a graha already be blocking the native in

one aspect

of life, then the unlocker (7th graha) is required. I.e. if

for

Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native will be

bothered by

constant disease on account of wrong application of intelligence.

Therefore the

intellect can be deemed as locked and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire

is

advised. Similarly if Moon is very badly placed and has no nīcha bhanga

then a

Blue Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the Moon

in weekday

order and can unlock these negatives.

There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra in this

regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented with them, this

is what I have to share.

Somanatha Drekkana

Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi

chart it is

worthwhile to check the Somanātha Drekkana. Herein graha lording the

second

house is a māraka to the ojas in the body and will curtail health and

sexuality.

This gemstone is therefore not advised, and neither is the lord of the

twelfth

as this is the sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to

the

partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the partner in a

similar

fashion and those gemstones should preferably also be avoided. Advising

the

third lord’s gem can increase the person’s libido significantly and

advising

this gemstone should be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is

the best

and ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice intelligently.

Hope this helps to share insight.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

----------

@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

chandan486 skrev:

||aum namah shivaya||

dear visti,

namaste.

Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the advent of Rahu

Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent answered .. is

mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it real

parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone exchange !!

however , first we need to really understand , that conjunction

actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? or only do

they give each others effects in the dasha ?

and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then what does

parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the same , then

whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ?

humble regards,

Chandan S sabarwal.

,

Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

>

> ??? ??? ?????

> Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar.

> PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, but

through his

> third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was untouched. It was

not

> until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing out

clearly

> that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was perfect

advise...

> Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How many can

> astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once following a

> remedial measure?

> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> ----------

> www: http://srigaruda.com

> @: visti

>

> Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:

> > ||aum namah shivaya||

> >

> > dear swee and visti,

> > namaste !

> >

> > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail and also

being

> > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that eventually

came

> > upon unto him , after some of his own party members and

associates

> > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the

briefcase ,

in

> > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million .

> >

> > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being

advised to

worn

> > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th House

,

merc

> > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic theory

behind

> > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on your

website

where

> > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual exhange

of

houses

> > and not simply conj....

> >

> > conj simply gives results of each others in Dasas's ... but

actual

> > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon Rasi /

Dasamasa !

> >

> > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just based upon

rasi and

> > not even consider damasa , especially when career is

concerend ?

> > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's case ,

somehow

> > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald that he

should

have

> > worn and not the red coral ...

> >

> > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so once

again

emerald.

> > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , glad

swee

bought

> > it up !!

> >

> > humbly yours,

> > chandan s sabarwal.

> >

>

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December 19, 2008

Dear Rafal

I have been trying to follow this excahnge of mails and getting a little confused. You said:

So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to trikona lords

Do you mean when there is ANY yuti between trikona lord and any other lord OR only trikona and dusthana lord?

-Regards

Rajarshi

The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Thu, 18/12/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponmeRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? Date: Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 6:25 PM

om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Chandan, NamaskarSo far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen if person is spiritual or not, after all dharmais not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage, progeny, social values etc - big parts of life for materialists. When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much attention Sanjayji places towards so called temporal malefics - here Mangal is definitely temporal maleficand it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we use only parivartana for gems then based solely on this principle advising Coral is quite unfortunate decision. Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its dominated by Budha and Mangal is enemy

in naisargika and tatkalika sambandha here. So its badly placed by lordship, sambandhaand placement from AL. So Coral is worst.More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits in 2H in D3 (Sn). What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad which Mangal gives here?ORwe accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon for Meena Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it.Regards,Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- --------Consultations and Pages:http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comchandan486 pisze:

||aum namah shivaya||Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti,Namaste.I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal and you two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details.Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal chart analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i seem to be correct about the advise for a Red Coral.1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which can be seen from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged.Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have conjoined , Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones adjacent to it , those ayanas will get exchanged.This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - Kama and Pisces - Moksha.Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones adjacent to it get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and Cancer - Moksha

...The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to yuti is Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a political leader and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana .So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised.Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which Zoran already mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with nothing to obstruct. Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which anyways is more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala prevails.2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is Varki .. Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good idea , as it only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is best choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa.I think i made a pretty neat assemement.Comments Please !!humble regards,Chandan S Sabarwal., Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> Dear Zoranji , Namaskar> > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral then the answer was:> > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do gemstones. Does > that clarify?> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana.> > June 28, 1921> Time: 12:49:00> Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT)> Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00"> > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is third and eight > lord, so the question is the same :> >

a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon and Surya yuti > we perscribe Ruby> > or> > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for Narasimha Rao?> > If there is no answer to this simple question then just admit it and > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself.> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> ------------ --------- --------> Consultations and Pages:> http://rohinaa. com> rafal > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> ------------ --------- --------> Consultations and Pages:> http://rohinaa. com> rafal > > ahimsavm pisze:> >> > Om Namah Shivaya,> > Dear Rafal,> > What Visti and myself are

saying is the same. Visti has very> > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are reversed,> > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we subsitute the> > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing their> > signification, since one pada of dharma remains uninfluenced. So,> > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in Full> > reversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji recommending the change> > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th house and> > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani and Shukra.> > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji recommended> > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra specifically. This was> > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well.> > Best wishes> > Zoran

Radosavljevic> > www.siva-edu. info> > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> >> > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ >> > wrote:> > >> > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar> > >> > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on yuti> > or> > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for> >

yuti, now> > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with> > Shani> > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha Shani> > will> > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha> > which is> > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya.> > >> > >> > >> > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How can> > you> > > perscribe 6L gem?> > >> > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done ONLY> > in> > > PARIVARTANA. "> > >> > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao?> > >> > > Or I have missed something?> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz> > >

------------ --------- --------> > > Consultations and Pages:> > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com>> > > rafal@> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Visti Larsen pisze:> > > >> > > > ??? ??? ?????> > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would> > give> > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki is> > > > rising here.> > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > > www: http://srigaruda.

com <http://srigaruda. com>> > > > @: visti@> > > >> > > > ahimsavm skrev:> > > >> > > >> Om Namah Shivaya,> > > >> Dear Rafal,> > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However, this> > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you> > have> > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never> > prescribe> > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th house. In> > that> > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health.> > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the> > Shani> > > >> and improve Mangal. However,

in such a case Surja should be in> > good> > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti> > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal and> > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad> > luck.> > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the chart.> > > >> Best wishes> > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic> > > >> www.siva-edu. info> > > >> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> > > >>

> > <srijagannat h%40. com>> > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz> > <starsuponme@ >> > > >> wrote:> > > >> >> > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar> > > >> >> > > >> > Yes.> > > >> >> > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe> > Neelam> > > >> to> > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal?> > > >> >> > > >> > Regards,> > > >> > Rafal

Gendarz> > > >> > ------------ --------- --------> > > >> > Consultations and Pages:> > > >> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> <http://rohinaa. com > > <http://rohinaa. com>>> > > >> > rafal@> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze:> > > >> > >> > > >> > > ??? ??? ?????> > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.> > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done> > > >>

otherwise> > > >> > > then he would not have cancer.> > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by> > Jupiter in> > > >> this> > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past> > life> > > >> and> > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu.> > > >> > > Still the advise is the same.> > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>>> > > >> > > @: visti@> > > >> > >> > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev:> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> Dear Visti> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful> > mail.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected with> > > >> liver> > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to live.> > In> > > >> his> > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a> >

pokhraj> > > >> instead> > > >> > >> of diamond?> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be> > great..> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977> > > >> > >> 12:20 pm> > > >> > >> calcutta> > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi..> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> -Regards> > > >> > >> Rajarshi> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> /*> > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra*> > > >> > >> */> > > >> > >>> > > >> >

>>> > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S(trbac /<majastrbacastro@ >/*> > > >> wrote:> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@ >> > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on> > > >> divisonal> > > >> > >> charts ?> > > >> > >> > > <srijagannat h%40. com>> > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>> > > >> >

>> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> WOW!> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a "Marry> > > >> Christmas> > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance".> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us!> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Warm Regards,> > > >> > >> Maja Strbac> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat

Sat> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > > > >> com>/* wrote:> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>> > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on> > > >> > >> divisonal charts ?> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> ??? ??? ?????> > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar.> > > >> >

>> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I> > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what> > > >> I> > > >> > >> have learned and have to share.> > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with> > > >> time> > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for reference):> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the> > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect> > > >> the> > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be> > > >> making a> > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to

the right> > > >> one.> > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body,> > > >> there> > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the> > > >> body,> > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely.> > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not> > > >> literally> > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel,> > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/> > > >> meaning a> > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of> >

> >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra> > > >> (diamond),> > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la> > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidu-> > > >> rya> > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite). /> > > >> For the> > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic> > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by> > > >> most,> > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does> > > >> state> > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be> > > >> regarded> > >

>> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga> > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la> > > >> (Sapphire) /we must> > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded> > > >> as> > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence,> > > >> whilst> > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the> > > >> > >> colour of them being different also differentiates the> > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be> > > >> learned> > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed

to reside in the particle of a ratna> > > >> which> > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no> > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for> > > >> the> > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon,> > > >> Mars,> > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon> > > >> rules over> > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the> >

raw> > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over the> > > >> rare> > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna ka-> > > >> raka> > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha> > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of> > > >> gemstones.> > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this> > > >> is> > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to> > > >> judge> > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional> > chart> > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one

uses it. Strong ojas can grant> > > >> fame,> > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones> > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known> > > >> as /gunatmaka/,> > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes. Hence to> > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other> > > >> gemstones we> > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes> > > >> and is> > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be> > explained> > > >> > >>

further below.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from> > > >> Vedic> > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers> > > >> represent> > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the index,> > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the> > > >> index> > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara.> > > >> The> > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the same work.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath)> > > >> > >>>

> > >> > >> Ratna> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Finger> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ruby> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Pearl> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Coral> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> >

> >> > >>> > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Emerald> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Diamond> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> >

>> Ring (3^rd from index)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Hessonite> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Cats eye> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)> >

> >> > >>> > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for> > > >> the> > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika)> > > >> characteristics> > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be> > a> > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga> > > >> (topaz)> > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having> > > >> cancer> > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These> > > >> natural> > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the> > > >> gemstones and> > >

>> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Graha> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ratna> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Translation> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Sun> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Padmara-ga> > > >> > >>> > > >> >

>>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ruby> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Moon> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Mukta> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Pearl> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Mars> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Vidruma> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Coral> >

> >> > >>> > > >> > >> Mercury> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Marakata> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Emerald> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Jupiter> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Venus> >

> >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Vajra> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Diamond> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Saturn> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Indrani-la> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Rahu> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >>

> >>> > > >> > >> Gomeda> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Hessonite> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ketu> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Cats eye> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any> > > >> advice and> > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from> >

my> > > >> > >> teacher.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth> > > >> house> > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones> > > >> and> > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The first> > > >> lord> > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the> > > >> hands> > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence> > the> > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in life if the> > > >> gemstone> > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the

ninth lord is the most> > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the> > > >> best> > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in> > > >> such> > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Gemstone advised> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Saturn> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> >

> >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> RÃ¤hu> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ketu> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Gold ring> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Mars> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Pearl> > > >> > >>> > > >>

> >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are> > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss> > > >> respectively and> > > >> > >> should not be worn.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on> > > >> account of> > > >> > >> Yoga.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes)> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or> > > >> goals> > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha,

ka-ma and moksha> > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a> > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs> > > >> respectively.> > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the> > > >> other> > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha.> > > >> Therefore,> > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the> > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on> > > >> three of> > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other

graha. Which three ayana> > > >> depends on> > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs> > > >> adjacent> > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then> > > >> Sun> > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun> > be> > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the> > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy> > > >> Navamsha,> > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign> > > >> and> > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the> > > >> effects of>

> > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as well,> > > >> but> > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery).> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects> > > >> will> > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications> > > >> of> > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then> > the> > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange> > > >> results,> > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results> > > >> whilst> > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results

of anyone. Similarly> > > >> apply> > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana> > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they> > > >> only> > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a> > > >> graha, yet> > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Va-rachakra> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> #> >

> >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Graha> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 1> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Sun> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 2> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Moon> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 3> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Mars> > > >> > >>>

> > >> > >> 4> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Mercury> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 5> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Jupiter> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 6> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Venus> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 7> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>

Saturn> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 8> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> RÃ¤hu> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 9> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ketu> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth> > > >> lords> > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive> > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is> > > >> causing> > > >> >

>> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its> > positive> > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have> > > >> given the> > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the> > > >> sixth> > > >> > >> and RÃ¤hu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario> > > >> the> > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles.> > > >> The> > > >> > >> reason being on account of RÃ¤hu. This is further explained> > > >> as:> > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th , 1^st or> > > >> 5^th> > > >> > >> in that order) that graha

causes an eclipse on the third> > > >> graha in> > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays> > > >> the> > > >> > >> third graha from RÃ¤hu is the Sun, hence when RÃ¤hu is in the> > > >> tenth> > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on account of the house> > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly> > > >> if> > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth> > > >> house> > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be> > hampered.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish,

and> > > >> this is> > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Gunachakra> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> #> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Graha> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Guna> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 1>

> > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Sun> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Satva> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 2> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Moon> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 3> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Jupiter> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 4> > > >> >

>>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> RÃ¤hu> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 5> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Mercury> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Rajas> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 6> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> >

>> Venus> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 7> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Ketu> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 8> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Saturn> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Tamas> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> 9> > > >>

> >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Mars> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the> > > >> Varachakra.> > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or> > > >> unlock> > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the> > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are> > > >> caused> > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is> > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the> > > >> fourth> > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter

is Venus who can block the spread of> > > >> cancer.> > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised> > > >> along> > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous> > > >> system> > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this> > > >> issue> > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya> > > >> bijas.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect> > > >> of> > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e. if> > > >> for> > > >> > >> Taurus

lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native> > > >> will> > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong> > > >> application> > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as> > > >> locked> > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly> > > >> if Moon> > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a Blue> > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the> > > >> Moon> > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives.> > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra> > > >> in

this> > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented> > with> > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it> > is> > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein graha> > > >> lording> > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body and> > > >> will> > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore> >

not> > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is> > > >> the> > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the> > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the> > > >> partner> > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably> > > >> also> > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can increase the> > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone> > > >> should> > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best> > > >> and> > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this

advice> > > >> intelligently.> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight.> > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com> > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev:> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya||> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>> dear visti,> > > >> > >>> namaste.> > > >> > >>>> > > >> >

>>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the> > > >> advent of> > > >> > >>> Rahu> > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent> > > >> answered .. is> > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it> > > >> real> > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone> > > >> exchange !!> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand , that> > > >> conjunction> > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other completely ?> > > >> or> > > >> > >>> only do> > > >>

> >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ?> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then> > > >> what does> > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the> > > >> same , then> > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ?> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>> humble regards,> > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal.> > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Visti

Larsen> > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote:> > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ?????> > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar.> > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time,> > > >> but> > > >> > >>> through his> > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was> > > >> untouched. It was> > > >> > >>> not> > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing> > > >> out> > > >> > >>> clearly> > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa

was> > > >> perfect> > > >> > >>> advise...> > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How> > > >> many can> > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once> > > >> following a> > > >> > >>> > remedial measure?> > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com/ > > <http://srigaruda.

com/>> > > >> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda. com/>>>> > > >> > >>> > @: visti@> > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:> > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya||> > > >> > >>> > >> > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti,> > > >> > >>> > > namaste !> > > >> > >>> > >> > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail> > > >> and also> > > >> > >>> being> > > >>

> >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that> > > >> eventually> > > >> > >>> came> > > >> > >>> came> > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members> > and> > > >> > >>> associates> > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the> > > >> > >>> briefcase ,> > > >> > >>> in> > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million .> > > >> > >>> > >> > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being> > > >> > >>> advised to> > >

>> > >>> worn> > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th> > > >> House ,> > > >> > >>> merc> > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic> > > >> theory> > > >> > >>> behind> > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on> > > >> your website> > > >> > >>> where> > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual> > > >> exhange of> > > >> > >>> houses> > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj....> > > >> > >>> > >>

> > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in> > > >> Dasas's ... but> > > >> > >>> actual> > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon> > > >> Rasi /> > > >> > >>> Dasamasa !> > > >> > >>> > >> > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just> > > >> based upon> > > >> > >>> rasi and> > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is> > > >> > >>> concerend ?> > > >> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's> > > >> case ,>

> > >> > >>> somehow> > > >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald> > > >> that he> > > >> > >>> should> > > >> > >>> have> > > >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ...> > > >> > >>> > >> > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so> > > >> once again> > > >> > >>> emerald.> > > >> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out ,> > > >> glad swee> > > >> > >>> bought> > > >> > >>> > > it up !!> > > >> > >>> > >> >

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dear rafal,

namaste.

Well , the explanation that i gave was purely based on visti's

article and somehow i tried to explain myself that I had learnt

something new about gemstones. However , Im a big fan of classical

texts and concepts that directly come from the *source*.

So i suggest , either you personally talk to Sanjay ji on this and i

too will try or else , visti or zoran could please share with all of

us the perfect sanskrit sloka that clearly states reversing gemtsones

purely based on yuti.

Personally i believe however learned anyone of us maybe , but we are

still very small kids intellectually to understand the intricacies of

Jyotisa on the level that the Maharsis understood.

Also , Parivartana makes more sense just about it. I too have a sun

ve conj in my rasi , sun being 5th lord , but i wear a ruby , becuase

i was ignorantly wearing a diamond for almost about 2 years and there

always used to be some jala tattwa problem with my health !!

trust me , personal experience is the best !

so based on yuti gemstone exchange , i do not see diamond working for

me , whereas the natural 5th lord stone ; ruby is doing perfect !

thoughts please!

humble regards,

Chandan S sabarwal.

, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme

wrote:

>

> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> Dear Chandan, Namaskar

>

> So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when

it

> comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen if person is

spiritual or

> not, after all dharma

> is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage,

progeny,

> social values etc - big parts of life for materialists.

>

> When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much

attention

> Sanjayji places towards so called temporal malefics - here Mangal

is

> definitely temporal malefic

> and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we use only

> parivartana for gems then based solely on this principle advising

Coral

> is quite unfortunate decision.

>

> Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its dominated

by

> Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and tatkalika sambandha

here. So

> its badly placed by lordship, sambandha

> and placement from AL. So Coral is worst.

>

> More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits in 2H

in D3

> (Sn).

>

> What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad which

Mangal

> gives here?

>

> OR

>

> we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon for

Meena

> Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> -----------------------------

> Consultations and Pages:

> rafal

>

> chandan486 pisze:

> >

> > ||aum namah shivaya||

> >

> > Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti,

> > Namaste.

> >

> > I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal and you

> > two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details.

> > Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal chart

> > analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i seem to

be

> > correct about the advise for a Red Coral.

> >

> > 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which can be

seen

> > from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged.

> > Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have conjoined ,

> > Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones adjacent to

> > it , those ayanas will get exchanged.

> > This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - Kama

and

> > Pisces - Moksha.

> >

> > Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones adjacent to

it

> > get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and Cancer -

> > Moksha ..

> >

> > The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to yuti is

> > Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a political

leader

> > and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana .

> > So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised.

> > Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which Zoran

already

> > mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with nothing to

> > obstruct.

> >

> > Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which anyways

is

> > more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala prevails.

> >

> > 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is Varki ..

> > Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good idea ,

as it

> > only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is best

> > choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa.

> >

> > I think i made a pretty neat assemement.

> >

> > Comments Please !!

> >

> > humble regards,

> > Chandan S Sabarwal.

> >

> > <%40>, Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> > > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar

> > >

> > > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral then the

> > answer was:

> > >

> > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

> > > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do

gemstones.

> > Does

> > > that clarify?

> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > ----------

> > >

> > > Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana.

> > >

> > > June 28, 1921

> > > Time: 12:49:00

> > > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT)

> > > Place: 79 E 09' 00 " , 18 N 26' 00 "

> > >

> > > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is third and

> > eight

> > > lord, so the question is the same :

> > >

> > > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon and

Surya

> > yuti

> > > we perscribe Ruby

> > >

> > > or

> > >

> > > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for Narasimha

Rao?

> > >

> > > If there is no answer to this simple question then just admit it

> > and

> > > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > -----------------------------

> > > Consultations and Pages:

> > > rafal@

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > -----------------------------

> > > Consultations and Pages:

> > > rafal@

> > >

> > > ahimsavm pisze:

> > > >

> > > > Om Namah Shivaya,

> > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has very

> > > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are

> > reversed,

> > > > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we

subsitute

> > the

> > > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing their

> > > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains uninfluenced.

So,

> > > > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in Full

> > > > reversal (Parivartana), I have seen Sanjayji recommending the

> > change

> > > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th house

and

> > > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani and

Shukra.

> > > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji

> > recommended

> > > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra

specifically.This

> > was

> > > > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well.

> > > > Best wishes

> > > > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > > > www.siva-edu.info

> > > > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

> > > >

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>, Rafal Gendarz

> > <starsuponme@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> > > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar

> > > > >

> > > > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based

on

> > yuti

> > > > or

> > > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also

for

> > > > yuti, now

> > > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is

with

> > > > Shani

> > > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha

> > Shani

> > > > will

> > > > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti

graha

> > > > which is

> > > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya.

> > > > >

> > > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ?

How

> > can

> > > > you

> > > > > perscribe 6L gem?

> > > > >

> > > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done

> > ONLY

> > > > in

> > > > > PARIVARTANA. "

> > > > >

> > > > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao?

> > > > >

> > > > > Or I have missed something?

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > -----------------------------

> > > > > Consultations and Pages:

> > > > > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com> <http://rohinaa.com

> > > > > rafal@

> > > > >

> > > > > Visti Larsen pisze:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ??? ??? ?????

> > > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

> > > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That

would

> > > > give

> > > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that

Zoki

> > is

> > > > > > rising here.

> > > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > > > > ----------

> > > > > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>

> > > > > > @: visti@

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ahimsavm skrev:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya,

> > > > > >> Dear Rafal,

> > > > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct.

However,

> > this

> > > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If

you

> > > > have

> > > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never

> > > > prescribe

> > > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed in 8th

house.

> > In

> > > > that

> > > > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health.

> > > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it would

block the

> > > > Shani

> > > > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should

be

> > in

> > > > good

> > > > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is

MOti

> > > > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for

Mangal

> > and

> > > > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of

bad

> > > > luck.

> > > > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the

> > chart.

> > > > > >> Best wishes

> > > > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic

> > > > > >> www.siva-edu.info

> > > > > >> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

> > > > > >>

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>

> > > > > >> <%40>, Rafal Gendarz

> > > > <starsuponme@>

> > > > > >> wrote:

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> > > > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > Yes.

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should

perscribe

> > > > Neelam

> > > > > >> to

> > > > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal?

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > Regards,

> > > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > >> > -----------------------------

> > > > > >> > Consultations and Pages:

> > > > > >> > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>

> > <http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>

> > > > <http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>>>

> > > > > >> > rafal@

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze:

> > > > > >> > >

> > > > > >> > > ??? ??? ?????

> > > > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.

> > > > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana

done

> > > > > >> otherwise

> > > > > >> > > then he would not have cancer.

> > > > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by

> > > > Jupiter in

> > > > > >> this

> > > > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother

from

> > past

> > > > life

> > > > > >> and

> > > > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu.

> > > > > >> > > Still the advise is the same.

> > > > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > > > >> > > ----------

> > > > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>

> > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>

<http://srigaruda.com

> > <http://srigaruda.com>>>

> > > > > >> > > @: visti@

> > > > > >> > >

> > > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev:

> > > > > >> > >

> > > > > >> > >> Dear Visti

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really

wonderful

> > > > mail.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been

detected

> > with

> > > > > >> liver

> > > > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to

> > live.

> > > > In

> > > > > >> his

> > > > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear

a

> > > > pokhraj

> > > > > >> instead

> > > > > >> > >> of diamond?

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it

woiuld be

> > > > great..

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977

> > > > > >> > >> 12:20 pm

> > > > > >> > >> calcutta

> > > > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi..

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> -Regards

> > > > > >> > >> Rajarshi

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> /*

> > > > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva

> > Sutra*

> > > > > >> > >> */

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S

> > (trbac /<majastrbacastro@>/*

> > > > > >> wrote:

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@>

> > > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing

gemstone on

> > > > > >> divisonal

> > > > > >> > >> charts ?

> > > > > >> > >>

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>

> > > > > >> <%40>

> > > > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> WOW!

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is

a " Marry

> > > > > >> Christmas

> > > > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance " .

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us!

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Warm Regards,

> > > > > >> > >> Maja Strbac

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti

Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

> > > > > >> com>/* wrote:

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

> > > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing

gemstone on

> > > > > >> > >> divisonal charts ?

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> ??? ??? ?????

> > > > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

> > > > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last

mail, I

> > > > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is

what

> > > > > >> I

> > > > > >> > >> have learned and have to share.

> > > > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones

with

> > > > > >> time

> > > > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for

reference):

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to

the

> > > > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to

protect

> > > > > >> the

> > > > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be

> > > > > >> making a

> > > > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the

right

> > > > > >> one.

> > > > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the

body,

> > > > > >> there

> > > > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the

> > > > > >> body,

> > > > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely.

> > > > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not

> > > > > >> literally

> > > > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure,

jewel,

> > > > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/

> > > > > >> meaning a

> > > > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types

of

> > > > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra

> > > > > >> (diamond),

> > > > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-

la

> > > > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald),

vaidu-

> > > > > >> rya

> > > > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite)./

> > > > > >> For the

> > > > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in

vedic

> > > > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as

Topaz by

> > > > > >> most,

> > > > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does

> > > > > >> state

> > > > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be

> > > > > >> regarded

> > > > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-

ga

> > > > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the /indrani-la

> > > > > >> (Sapphire) /we must

> > > > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be

regarded

> > > > > >> as

> > > > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence,

> > > > > >> whilst

> > > > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-

la/ the

> > > > > >> > >> colour of them being different also differentiates

the

> > > > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be

> > > > > >> learned

> > > > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a

> > ratna

> > > > > >> which

> > > > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and

has

> > no

> > > > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna

is

> > for

> > > > > >> the

> > > > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting

you.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu.

> > Moon,

> > > > > >> Mars,

> > > > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among them

Moon

> > > > > >> rules over

> > > > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn

over the

> > > > raw

> > > > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules

over

> > the

> > > > > >> rare

> > > > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is

Ratna

> > ka-

> > > > > >> raka

> > > > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and

> > Somanatha

> > > > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect

of

> > > > > >> gemstones.

> > > > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma

and

> > this

> > > > > >> is

> > > > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is

apt

> > to

> > > > > >> judge

> > > > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this

divisional

> > > > chart

> > > > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can

> > grant

> > > > > >> fame,

> > > > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see

ones

> > > > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is

used.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known

> > > > > >> as /gunatmaka/,

> > > > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes.

> > Hence to

> > > > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other

> > > > > >> gemstones we

> > > > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other

purposes

> > > > > >> and is

> > > > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be

> > > > explained

> > > > > >> > >> further below.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be

understood

> > from

> > > > > >> Vedic

> > > > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four

fingers

> > > > > >> represent

> > > > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the

> > index,

> > > > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised

on

> > the

> > > > > >> index

> > > > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing

> > ahamkara.

> > > > > >> The

> > > > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the same

work.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ratna

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Finger

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ruby

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Pearl

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Coral

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Emerald

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Diamond

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Hessonite

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Cats eye

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great

good

> > for

> > > > > >> the

> > > > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika)

> > > > > >> characteristics

> > > > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady

wishing to

> > be

> > > > a

> > > > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from wearing a

pushpara-ga

> > > > > >> (topaz)

> > > > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person

having

> > > > > >> cancer

> > > > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra.

> > These

> > > > > >> natural

> > > > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the

> > > > > >> gemstones and

> > > > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Graha

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ratna

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Translation

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Sun

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Padmara-ga

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ruby

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Moon

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Mukta

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Pearl

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Mars

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Vidruma

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Coral

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Mercury

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Marakata

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Emerald

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Jupiter

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Venus

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Vajra

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Diamond

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Saturn

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Indrani-la

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Rahu

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Gomeda

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Hessonite

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ketu

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Cats eye

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying

any

> > > > > >> advice and

> > > > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered

> > from

> > > > my

> > > > > >> > >> teacher.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth

and

> > ninth

> > > > > >> house

> > > > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best

> > gemstones

> > > > > >> and

> > > > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of life.

The

> > first

> > > > > >> lord

> > > > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth

protects

> > the

> > > > > >> hands

> > > > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and

hence

> > > > the

> > > > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in life if

the

> > > > > >> gemstone

> > > > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is

the

> > most

> > > > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to

advise the

> > > > > >> best

> > > > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the

body.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune,

> > and in

> > > > > >> such

> > > > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Gemstone advised

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Saturn

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Rähu

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ketu

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Gold ring

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Mars

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Pearl

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house

lords

> > are

> > > > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss

> > > > > >> respectively and

> > > > > >> > >> should not be worn.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur

on

> > > > > >> account of

> > > > > >> > >> Yoga.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four

> > ayana or

> > > > > >> goals

> > > > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and

> > moksha

> > > > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth

pada

> > of a

> > > > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs

> > > > > >> respectively.

> > > > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another,

then

> > the

> > > > > >> other

> > > > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former

graha.

> > > > > >> Therefore,

> > > > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth

lord

> > the

> > > > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it

takes on

> > > > > >> three of

> > > > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three

ayana

> > > > > >> depends on

> > > > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two

signs

> > > > > >> adjacent

> > > > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined

Venus

> > then

> > > > > >> Sun

> > > > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case

should

> > Sun

> > > > be

> > > > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would

give

> > the

> > > > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an

earthy

> > > > > >> Navamsha,

> > > > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a

fiery

> > sign

> > > > > >> and

> > > > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give

the

> > > > > >> effects of

> > > > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy)

as

> > well,

> > > > > >> but

> > > > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery).

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of

> > effects

> > > > > >> will

> > > > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic

> > indications

> > > > > >> of

> > > > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join

then

> > > > the

> > > > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange

> > > > > >> results,

> > > > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange

results

> > > > > >> whilst

> > > > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone.

> > Similarly

> > > > > >> apply

> > > > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and

> > Parivartana

> > > > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose

as

> > they

> > > > > >> only

> > > > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana

of a

> > > > > >> graha, yet

> > > > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Va-rachakra

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> #

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Graha

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 1

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Sun

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 2

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Moon

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 3

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Mars

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 4

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Mercury

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 5

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Jupiter

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 6

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Venus

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 7

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Saturn

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 8

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Rähu

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 9

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ketu

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or

> > twelfth

> > > > > >> lords

> > > > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing

> > excessive

> > > > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when another

graha

> > is

> > > > > >> causing

> > > > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its

> > > > positive

> > > > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to

have

> > > > > >> given the

> > > > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun

was in

> > the

> > > > > >> sixth

> > > > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific

> > scenario

> > > > > >> the

> > > > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal

> > battles.

> > > > > >> The

> > > > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu. This is further

> > explained

> > > > > >> as:

> > > > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th ,

> > 1^st or

> > > > > >> 5^th

> > > > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the

third

> > > > > >> graha in

> > > > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of

> > weekdays

> > > > > >> the

> > > > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu

is in

> > the

> > > > > >> tenth

> > > > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on account of

the

> > house

> > > > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their life.

> > Similarly

> > > > > >> if

> > > > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the

> > fifth

> > > > > >> house

> > > > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be

> > > > hampered.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish,

and

> > > > > >> this is

> > > > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu

Sutras.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Gunachakra

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> #

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Graha

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Guna

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 1

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Sun

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Satva

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 2

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Moon

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 3

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Jupiter

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 4

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Rähu

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 5

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Mercury

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Rajas

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 6

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Venus

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 7

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ketu

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 8

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Saturn

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Tamas

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 9

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Mars

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the

> > > > > >> Varachakra.

> > > > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to

lock or

> > > > > >> unlock

> > > > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha

in the

> > > > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and

tumours are

> > > > > >> caused

> > > > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body

and is

> > > > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the

Gunachakra the

> > > > > >> fourth

> > > > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the

spread of

> > > > > >> cancer.

> > > > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is

advised

> > > > > >> along

> > > > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause

nervous

> > > > > >> system

> > > > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to

block

> > this

> > > > > >> issue

> > > > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the

> > Mrtyunjaya

> > > > > >> bijas.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one

> > aspect

> > > > > >> of

> > > > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required.

I.e.

> > if

> > > > > >> for

> > > > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the

> > native

> > > > > >> will

> > > > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong

> > > > > >> application

> > > > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be

deemed

> > as

> > > > > >> locked

> > > > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised.

> > Similarly

> > > > > >> if Moon

> > > > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a

> > Blue

> > > > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha

from

> > the

> > > > > >> Moon

> > > > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives.

> > > > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of the

> > Gunachakra

> > > > > >> in this

> > > > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been

presented

> > > > with

> > > > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi

chart

> > it

> > > > is

> > > > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein

> > graha

> > > > > >> lording

> > > > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the

body

> > and

> > > > > >> will

> > > > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is

therefore

> > > > not

> > > > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as

this

> > is

> > > > > >> the

> > > > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy

to

> > the

> > > > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords

affect the

> > > > > >> partner

> > > > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should

> > preferably

> > > > > >> also

> > > > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third lord's gem can

increase

> > the

> > > > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising this

gemstone

> > > > > >> should

> > > > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is

the

> > best

> > > > > >> and

> > > > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice

> > > > > >> intelligently.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight.

> > > > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> > > > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com

> > > > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev:

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya||

> > > > > >> > >>>

> > > > > >> > >>> dear visti,

> > > > > >> > >>> namaste.

> > > > > >> > >>>

> > > > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with

the

> > > > > >> advent of

> > > > > >> > >>> Rahu

> > > > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent

> > > > > >> answered .. is

> > > > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ?

or

> > is it

> > > > > >> real

> > > > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone

> > > > > >> exchange !!

> > > > > >> > >>>

> > > > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand , that

> > > > > >> conjunction

> > > > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other

> > completely ?

> > > > > >> or

> > > > > >> > >>> only do

> > > > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ?

> > > > > >> > >>>

> > > > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ?

then

> > > > > >> what does

> > > > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not

the

> > > > > >> same , then

> > > > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ?

> > > > > >> > >>>

> > > > > >> > >>> humble regards,

> > > > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal.

> > > > > >> > >>>

> > > > > >> > >>> <%40>, Visti

Larsen

> > > > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote:

> > > > > >> > >>> >

> > > > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ?????

> > > > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar.

> > > > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and

jail

> > time,

> > > > > >> but

> > > > > >> > >>> through his

> > > > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was

> > > > > >> untouched. It was

> > > > > >> > >>> not

> > > > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence

> > pointing

> > > > > >> out

> > > > > >> > >>> clearly

> > > > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars

mahadasa

> > was

> > > > > >> perfect

> > > > > >> > >>> advise...

> > > > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing

it!

> > How

> > > > > >> many can

> > > > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that

once

> > > > > >> following a

> > > > > >> > >>> > remedial measure?

> > > > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> > > > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com

<http://srigaruda.com/

<http://in.rd./tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger..c

> > > > <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>

> > > > > >> <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>

> > <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>>>

> > > > > >> > >>> > @: visti@

> > > > > >> > >>> >

> > > > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:

> > > > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya||

> > > > > >> > >>> > >

> > > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti,

> > > > > >> > >>> > > namaste !

> > > > > >> > >>> > >

> > > > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to

jail

> > > > > >> and also

> > > > > >> > >>> being

> > > > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) ,

that

> > > > > >> eventually

> > > > > >> > >>> came

> > > > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party

members

> > > > and

> > > > > >> > >>> associates

> > > > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even

showed

> > the

> > > > > >> > >>> briefcase ,

> > > > > >> > >>> in

> > > > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10

million .

> > > > > >> > >>> > >

> > > > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral

is

> > being

> > > > > >> > >>> advised to

> > > > > >> > >>> worn

> > > > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury

in

> > 10th

> > > > > >> House ,

> > > > > >> > >>> merc

> > > > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the

> > basic

> > > > > >> theory

> > > > > >> > >>> behind

> > > > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading

somehwere on

> > > > > >> your website

> > > > > >> > >>> where

> > > > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is

actual

> > > > > >> exhange of

> > > > > >> > >>> houses

> > > > > >> > >>> > > and not simply conj....

> > > > > >> > >>> > >

> > > > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in

> > > > > >> Dasas's ... but

> > > > > >> > >>> actual

> > > > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is

based

> > upon

> > > > > >> Rasi /

> > > > > >> > >>> Dasamasa !

> > > > > >> > >>> > >

> > > > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone

just

> > > > > >> based upon

> > > > > >> > >>> rasi and

> > > > > >> > >>> > > not even consider damasa , especially when

career

> > is

> > > > > >> > >>> concerend ?

> > > > > >> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in

> > Narasimha's

> > > > > >> case ,

> > > > > >> > >>> somehow

> > > > > >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the

Emerald

> > > > > >> that he

> > > > > >> > >>> should

> > > > > >> > >>> have

> > > > > >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ...

> > > > > >> > >>> > >

> > > > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the

Sun ,

> > so

> > > > > >> once again

> > > > > >> > >>> emerald.

> > > > > >> > >>> > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with

> > out ,

> > > > > >> glad swee

> > > > > >> > >>> bought

> > > > > >> > >>> > > it up !!

> > > > > >> > >>> > >

> > > > > >> > >>> > > humbly yours,

> > > > > >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal.

> > > > > >> > >>> > >

> > > > > >> > >>> >

> > > > > >> > >>>

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> -------------------

----

> > --

> > > > > >> ------------

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December 19, 2008

om namo bhagavate narasimhaya

Dear Chandan, Namaskar

Regarding the explanation I am not questioning the validity of

knowledge given here.

I will repeat again:

Why the worst gem based on principles given was given to Narasimha Rao

and that is considered good?

I get few answers which were contradicting themselves after other mails

and then my request to make it clear was

called request for 'repeating myself' and the topic was suddenly

changed to eulogizing each others belief in Parampara,

now where my question is clear and asked again there is silence.

I will repeat:

a) as I understood only parivartana has the power to make the choice to

reverse the gem, not yuti

b) we should not give the gem which is in 2H in D2 (Kn)

c) we should not give the gem which is the temoral malefic for the

lagna, especially if its enemy of the subha yoga in the chart

Mars is naisargik and tatkalik enemy of

Shuba-Bhadra-Karma-Dasama-Budha, its 3L and 8L, sitting in 2H in D3(Sn)

lording 8L in D2!

I still dont know which rule I have ommited that conquers all the

negatives about this choice.

Once the answer was that its due to yuti but then after while the

prinicple was its only for parivartana.

Do we have clear answer to my simple querry?

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

-----------------------------

Consultations and Pages:

rafal

chandan486 pisze:

||aum namah shivaya||

dear rafal,

namaste.

Well , the explanation that i gave was purely based on visti's

article and somehow i tried to explain myself that I had learnt

something new about gemstones. However , Im a big fan of classical

texts and concepts that directly come from the *source*.

So i suggest , either you personally talk to Sanjay ji on this and i

too will try or else , visti or zoran could please share with all of

us the perfect sanskrit sloka that clearly states reversing gemtsones

purely based on yuti.

Personally i believe however learned anyone of us maybe , but we are

still very small kids intellectually to understand the intricacies of

Jyotisa on the level that the Maharsis understood.

Also , Parivartana makes more sense just about it. I too have a sun

ve conj in my rasi , sun being 5th lord , but i wear a ruby , becuase

i was ignorantly wearing a diamond for almost about 2 years and there

always used to be some jala tattwa problem with my health !!

trust me , personal experience is the best !

so based on yuti gemstone exchange , i do not see diamond working for

me , whereas the natural 5th lord stone ; ruby is doing perfect !

thoughts please!

humble regards,

Chandan S sabarwal.

,

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme

wrote:

>

> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> Dear Chandan, Namaskar

>

> So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when

it

> comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen if person is

spiritual or

> not, after all dharma

> is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage,

progeny,

> social values etc - big parts of life for materialists.

>

> When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much

attention

> Sanjayji places towards so called temporal malefics - here Mangal

is

> definitely temporal malefic

> and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we use

only

> parivartana for gems then based solely on this principle advising

Coral

> is quite unfortunate decision.

>

> Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its dominated

by

> Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and tatkalika sambandha

here. So

> its badly placed by lordship, sambandha

> and placement from AL. So Coral is worst.

>

> More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits in 2H

in D3

> (Sn).

>

> What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad which

Mangal

> gives here?

>

> OR

>

> we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon for

Meena

> Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> -----------------------------

> Consultations and Pages:

> rafal

>

> chandan486 pisze:

> >

> > ||aum namah shivaya||

> >

> > Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti,

> > Namaste.

> >

> > I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal

and you

> > two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details.

> > Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal

chart

> > analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i

seem to

be

> > correct about the advise for a Red Coral.

> >

> > 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which can

be

seen

> > from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged.

> > Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have

conjoined ,

> > Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones

adjacent to

> > it , those ayanas will get exchanged.

> > This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius -

Kama

and

> > Pisces - Moksha.

> >

> > Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones adjacent

to

it

> > get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and Cancer

-

> > Moksha ..

> >

> > The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to yuti

is

> > Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a political

leader

> > and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana .

> > So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised.

> > Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which Zoran

already

> > mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with

nothing to

> > obstruct.

> >

> > Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which

anyways

is

> > more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala

prevails.

> >

> > 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is Varki

...

> > Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good idea

,

as it

> > only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is

best

> > choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa.

> >

> > I think i made a pretty neat assemement.

> >

> > Comments Please !!

> >

> > humble regards,

> > Chandan S Sabarwal.

> >

> > <%40>,

Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> > > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar

> > >

> > > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral

then the

> > answer was:

> > >

> > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

> > > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do

gemstones.

> > Does

> > > that clarify?

> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > ----------

> > >

> > > Now you are stating again that it is only for

parivartana.

> > >

> > > June 28, 1921

> > > Time: 12:49:00

> > > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT)

> > > Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00"

> > >

> > > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is

third and

> > eight

> > > lord, so the question is the same :

> > >

> > > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon

and

Surya

> > yuti

> > > we perscribe Ruby

> > >

> > > or

> > >

> > > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for

Narasimha

Rao?

> > >

> > > If there is no answer to this simple question then just

admit it

> > and

> > > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > -----------------------------

> > > Consultations and Pages:

> > > rafal@

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > -----------------------------

> > > Consultations and Pages:

> > > rafal@

> > >

> > > ahimsavm pisze:

> > > >

> > > > Om Namah Shivaya,

> > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti

has very

> > > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada

effects are

> > reversed,

> > > > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if

we

subsitute

> > the

> > > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully

reversing their

> > > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains

uninfluenced.

So,

> > > > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada.

Only in Full

> > > > reversal (Parivartana), I have seen Sanjayji

recommending the

> > change

> > > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in

5th house

and

> > > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of

Shani and

Shukra.

> > > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house,

Sanjayji

> > recommended

> > > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra

specifically.This

> > was

> > > > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as

well.

> > > > Best wishes

> > > > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > > > www.siva-edu.info

> > > > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

> > > >

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>,

Rafal Gendarz

> > <starsuponme@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> > > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar

> > > > >

> > > > > The whole disussion is about if we use the

other gem based

on

> > yuti

> > > > or

> > > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you

say its also

for

> > > > yuti, now

> > > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If

ninth lord is

with

> > > > Shani

> > > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then

the yuti graha

> > Shani

> > > > will

> > > > > work, based on that using Neelam will

strenghten the yuti

graha

> > > > which is

> > > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya.

> > > > >

> > > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord

neecha sign ?

How

> > can

> > > > you

> > > > > perscribe 6L gem?

> > > > >

> > > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of

gems can be done

> > ONLY

> > > > in

> > > > > PARIVARTANA. "

> > > > >

> > > > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao?

> > > > >

> > > > > Or I have missed something?

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > -----------------------------

> > > > > Consultations and Pages:

> > > > > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>

> > > > > rafal@

> > > > >

> > > > > Visti Larsen pisze:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ??? ??? ?????

> > > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

> > > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti

ninth lord? That

would

> > > > give

> > > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the

main points that

Zoki

> > is

> > > > > > rising here.

> > > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > > > > ----------

> > > > > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>

> > > > > > @: visti@

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ahimsavm skrev:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya,

> > > > > >> Dear Rafal,

> > > > > >> What Visti has written about

Sambhanda is correct.

However,

> > this

> > > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY

in PARIVARTANA. If

you

> > > > have

> > > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for

Meena, I would never

> > > > prescribe

> > > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon

is placed in 8th

house.

> > In

> > > > that

> > > > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue

Sapphire for health.

> > > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby

because it would

block the

> > > > Shani

> > > > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such

a case Surja should

be

> > in

> > > > good

> > > > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru.

Another possibility is

MOti

> > > > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta

is very good for

Mangal

> > and

> > > > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you

may risk the rise of

bad

> > > > luck.

> > > > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani

Mangal placement in the

> > chart.

> > > > > >> Best wishes

> > > > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic

> > > > > >> www.siva-edu.info

> > > > > >> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

> > > > > >>

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>

> > > > > >> <%40>,

Rafal Gendarz

> > > > <starsuponme@>

> > > > > >> wrote:

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> > > > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > Yes.

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti

Mangal - I should

perscribe

> > > > Neelam

> > > > > >> to

> > > > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal?

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > Regards,

> > > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > >> > -----------------------------

> > > > > >> > Consultations and Pages:

> > > > > >> > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>

> > <http://rohinaa.com

> > > > <http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>>>

> > > > > >> > rafal@

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze:

> > > > > >> > >

> > > > > >> > > ??? ??? ?????

> > > > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.

> > > > > >> > > The final effect is the

same, as had the parivartana

done

> > > > > >> otherwise

> > > > > >> > > then he would not have

cancer.

> > > > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the

Cancer was solely caused by

> > > > Jupiter in

> > > > > >> this

> > > > > >> > > case as we see Rahu

involved in a curse of mother

from

> > past

> > > > life

> > > > > >> and

> > > > > >> > > involving the sixth lord

(roga) Ketu.

> > > > > >> > > Still the advise is the

same.

> > > > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti

Larsen

> > > > > >> > > ----------

> > > > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda.com

<http://srigaruda.com>

> > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>

<http://srigaruda.com

> > <http://srigaruda.com>>>

> > > > > >> > > @: visti@

> > > > > >> > >

> > > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev:

> > > > > >> > >

> > > > > >> > >> Dear Visti

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing

that information. Really

wonderful

> > > > mail.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of

a person who has been

detected

> > with

> > > > > >> liver

> > > > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have

given him six months time to

> > live.

> > > > In

> > > > > >> his

> > > > > >> > >> chart jup is in

exchance with venus. Should he wear

a

> > > > pokhraj

> > > > > >> instead

> > > > > >> > >> of diamond?

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> If you could kindly

take a look and advice it

woiuld be

> > > > great..

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977

> > > > > >> > >> 12:20 pm

> > > > > >> > >> calcutta

> > > > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh

rasi..

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> -Regards

> > > > > >> > >> Rajarshi

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> /*

> > > > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of

consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva

> > Sutra*

> > > > > >> > >> */

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08,

Maja S

> > (trbac /<majastrbacastro@>/*

> > > > > >> wrote:

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac

<majastrbacastro@>

> > > > > >> > >> Re: [Om

Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing

gemstone on

> > > > > >> divisonal

> > > > > >> > >> charts ?

> > > > > >> > >>

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>

> > > > > >> <%40>

> > > > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16

December, 2008, 8:47 PM

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> WOW!

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> As far as I am

concerned, your email bellow is

a "Marry

> > > > > >> Christmas

> > > > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in

advance".

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Thank you so much for

shearing it with us!

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Warm Regards,

> > > > > >> > >> Maja Strbac

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08,

Visti

Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

> > > > > >> com>/* wrote:

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Visti Larsen

> > > > > >> > >> Re: [Om

Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing

gemstone on

> > > > > >> > >> divisonal charts ?

> > > > > >> > >> @

. com

> > > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December

16, 2008, 7:09 AM

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> ??? ??? ?????

> > > > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

> > > > > >> > >> Excuse me for not

answering in full in my last

mail, I

> > > > > >> > >> realise no one learns

if no one shares, so here is

what

> > > > > >> I

> > > > > >> > >> have learned and have

to share.

> > > > > >> > >> I have gathered the

following rules reg. gemstones

with

> > > > > >> time

> > > > > >> > >> (this will be

republished on my website for

reference):

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> The prescription of

metals or gemstones belongs to

the

> > > > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e.

Tanu+Trayi meaning to

protect

> > > > > >> the

> > > > > >> > >> body. This is best to

advise when a person may be

> > > > > >> making a

> > > > > >> > >> wrong decision and you

want them to stick to the

right

> > > > > >> one.

> > > > > >> > >> Just as one can advise

gemstones to protect the

body,

> > > > > >> there

> > > > > >> > >> are gemstones which can

remove the protection of the

> > > > > >> body,

> > > > > >> > >> hence one should advise

these wisely.

> > > > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for

gemstone is r/atna/ but does not

> > > > > >> literally

> > > > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can

also refer to treasure,

jewel,

> > > > > >> > >> precious stone, and is

derived from the word /ra-/

> > > > > >> meaning a

> > > > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or

riches. (Monier-Williams)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> The word /ratna/

specifically refers to nine types

of

> > > > > >> > >> treasure or jewels

namely mukta (pearl), vajra

> > > > > >> (diamond),

> > > > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby),

/pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-

la

> > > > > >> > >> (clear/stainless

sapphire), marakata (emerald),

vaidu-

> > > > > >> rya

> > > > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma

(coral) and gomeda (hessonite)./

> > > > > >> For the

> > > > > >> > >> same reason the word

/ratna/ also means nine in

vedic

> > > > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga

has been translated as

Topaz by

> > > > > >> most,

> > > > > >> > >> however the Garuda

Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does

> > > > > >> state

> > > > > >> > >> that different colours

of the /pushpara-ga /can be

> > > > > >> regarded

> > > > > >> > >> as equal to the

/indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-

ga

> > > > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore,

among the /indrani-la

> > > > > >> (Sapphire) /we must

> > > > > >> > >> infer that certain

shades (i.e. yellow) can be

regarded

> > > > > >> as

> > > > > >> > >> giving the effects of

/pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence,

> > > > > >> whilst

> > > > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in

the same group of /indrani-

la/ the

> > > > > >> > >> colour of them being

different also differentiates

the

> > > > > >> > >> effects of wearing them

greatly. Details should be

> > > > > >> learned

> > > > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana

in this regard.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed

to reside in the particle of a

> > ratna

> > > > > >> which

> > > > > >> > >> is clear, bright,

without cracks or lines in it and

has

> > no

> > > > > >> > >> unusual shades in it.

Hence, the wearing of a ratna

is

> > for

> > > > > >> the

> > > > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva

next to you and protecting

you.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the

various metals known as Dhatu.

> > Moon,

> > > > > >> Mars,

> > > > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu

signify the Dhatu and among them

Moon

> > > > > >> rules over

> > > > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars

rules over the earth, Saturn

over the

> > > > raw

> > > > > >> > >> minerals such as oil

and irons whilst Ra-hu rules

over

> > the

> > > > > >> rare

> > > > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and

platinum. Hence, Moon is

Ratna

> > ka-

> > > > > >> raka

> > > > > >> > >> and divisional charts

as Somanatha Drekkana and

> > Somanatha

> > > > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most

important to judge the effect

of

> > > > > >> gemstones.

> > > > > >> > >> As specifically the

Drekkana refers to ones karma

and

> > this

> > > > > >> is

> > > > > >> > >> signified by ones

hands, the Somanatha drekkana is

apt

> > to

> > > > > >> judge

> > > > > >> > >> the effects of

gemstones. Specifically this

divisional

> > > > chart

> > > > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how

one uses it. Strong ojas can

> > grant

> > > > > >> fame,

> > > > > >> > >> and hence this

divisional chart can be used to see

ones

> > > > > >> > >> popularity as well as

sexuality where ones ojas is

used.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all

gemstones is also known

> > > > > >> as /gunatmaka/,

> > > > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the

form of /guna/ or attributes.

> > Hence to

> > > > > >> > >> understand the effects

of a gemstone vis-a-vis other

> > > > > >> gemstones we

> > > > > >> > >> use the gunachakra.

This is also used for other

purposes

> > > > > >> and is

> > > > > >> > >> an integral part of

Vedic numerology. This will be

> > > > explained

> > > > > >> > >> further below.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Which finger to wear

the gemstone on can be

understood

> > from

> > > > > >> Vedic

> > > > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology,

by Sanjay Rath. The four

fingers

> > > > > >> represent

> > > > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma

and ka-ma respectively for the

> > index,

> > > > > >> > >> middle, ring and little

fingers. No gem is advised

on

> > the

> > > > > >> index

> > > > > >> > >> finger as it risks

blocking moksha and increasing

> > ahamkara.

> > > > > >> The

> > > > > >> > >> following table has

been culled out of the same

work.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and

Ratna (Rath)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ratna

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Finger

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ruby

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Pearl

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger

(3^rd or 4^th from index)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Coral

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger

(2^nd or 3^rd from index)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Emerald

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Middle or little

fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow

Sapphire

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Diamond

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger

(2^nd or 4^th from index)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Hessonite

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger

(2^nd or 4^th from index)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Cats eye

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger

(2^nd or 3^rd from index)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states

that gemstones can do great

good

> > for

> > > > > >> the

> > > > > >> > >> human race and they

have natural (Naisargika)

> > > > > >> characteristics

> > > > > >> > >> which will benefit

everyone. Example: a lady

wishing to

> > be

> > > > a

> > > > > >> > >> mother would benefit

greatly from wearing a

pushpara-ga

> > > > > >> (topaz)

> > > > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow

sapphire). Similarly a person

having

> > > > > >> cancer

> > > > > >> > >> should wear a diamond

and recite mrtyunjaya mantra.

> > These

> > > > > >> natural

> > > > > >> > >> indications of

gemstones can be applied to all the

> > > > > >> gemstones and

> > > > > >> > >> the effects are given

in Garuda Purana.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and

Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Graha

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ratna

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Translation

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Sun

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Padmara-ga

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ruby

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Moon

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Mukta

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Pearl

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Mars

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Vidruma

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Coral

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Mercury

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Marakata

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Emerald

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Jupiter

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Venus

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Vajra

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Diamond

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Saturn

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Indrani-la

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Rahu

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Gomeda

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Hessonite

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ketu

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Cats eye

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Tradition is everything

when it comes to applying

any

> > > > > >> advice and

> > > > > >> > >> hereunder is some of

the advice that I have gathered

> > from

> > > > my

> > > > > >> > >> teacher.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised

based on the first, fifth

and

> > ninth

> > > > > >> house

> > > > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1)

chart. These are the best

> > gemstones

> > > > > >> and

> > > > > >> > >> will support the native

in their purpose of life.

The

> > first

> > > > > >> lord

> > > > > >> > >> protects the head and

intelligence, the fifth

protects

> > the

> > > > > >> hands

> > > > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the

ninth protects the legs, and

hence

> > > > the

> > > > > >> > >> native will always

select the best path in life if

the

> > > > > >> gemstone

> > > > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is

worn. Thus the ninth lord is

the

> > most

> > > > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone.

This can also be used to

advise the

> > > > > >> best

> > > > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in

particular parts of the

body.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the

ninth house cause misfortune,

> > and in

> > > > > >> such

> > > > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are

advised.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Gemstone advised

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Saturn

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for

ladies)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Rähu

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or

Yellow Topaz

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ketu

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Gold ring

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Mars

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Pearl

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth,

eighth or twelfth house

lords

> > are

> > > > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause

strife, disease and loss

> > > > > >> respectively and

> > > > > >> > >> should not be worn.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> To both the above there

are exceptions which occur

on

> > > > > >> account of

> > > > > >> > >> Yoga.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha

(reference: Atri Classes)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> The graha give their

effects by affecting the four

> > ayana or

> > > > > >> goals

> > > > > >> > >> of the person's life

namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and

> > moksha

> > > > > >> > >> symbolised by the

first, second, third or fourth

pada

> > of a

> > > > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery,

earthy, airy and watery signs

> > > > > >> respectively.

> > > > > >> > >> When a graha is in

parivartana yoga with another,

then

> > the

> > > > > >> other

> > > > > >> > >> graha will affect all

four ayana of the former

graha.

> > > > > >> Therefore,

> > > > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in

parivartana with the sixth

lord

> > the

> > > > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth

lord should be advised.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha

is yuti another graha it

takes on

> > > > > >> three of

> > > > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the

other graha. Which three

ayana

> > > > > >> depends on

> > > > > >> > >> i) the particular

grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two

signs

> > > > > >> adjacent

> > > > > >> > >> that particular sign.

Example: If Sun is joined

Venus

> > then

> > > > > >> Sun

> > > > > >> > >> will give the effects

of Venus. In such a case

should

> > Sun

> > > > be

> > > > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha

of Capricorn then it would

give

> > the

> > > > > >> > >> effects of Venus'

Artha-ayana due to being in an

earthy

> > > > > >> Navamsha,

> > > > > >> > >> and further as the

Navamsha before is that of a

fiery

> > sign

> > > > > >> and

> > > > > >> > >> that after being an

airy sign, the Sun would give

the

> > > > > >> effects of

> > > > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana

(fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy)

as

> > well,

> > > > > >> but

> > > > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana

(watery).

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> If three or more graha

join then the interchange of

> > effects

> > > > > >> will

> > > > > >> > >> be decided based on the

natural benefic/malefic

> > indications

> > > > > >> of

> > > > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if

Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join

then

> > > > the

> > > > > >> > >> highest malefic and

highest benefic will interchange

> > > > > >> results,

> > > > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and

Jupiter to interchange

results

> > > > > >> whilst

> > > > > >> > >> Mercury will give not

give the results of anyone.

> > Similarly

> > > > > >> apply

> > > > > >> > >> this to conjunction of

more grahas.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> The two remaining

Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and

> > Parivartana

> > > > > >> > >> dristi are not taken

into account for this purpose

as

> > they

> > > > > >> only

> > > > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana

among the full four ayana

of a

> > > > > >> graha, yet

> > > > > >> > >> are still applied when

timing events.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Va-rachakra

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> #

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Graha

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 1

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Sun

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 2

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Moon

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 3

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Mars

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 4

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Mercury

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 5

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Jupiter

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 6

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Venus

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 7

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Saturn

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 8

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Rähu

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 9

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ketu

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> In some cases the

gemstones of the sixth, eighth or

> > twelfth

> > > > > >> lords

> > > > > >> > >> needs to be given to as

those graha are causing

> > excessive

> > > > > >> > >> problems to the native.

This occurs when another

graha

> > is

> > > > > >> causing

> > > > > >> > >> an eclipse on that

graha and thus denying it of its

> > > > positive

> > > > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri

Kashinatha Rath was recalled to

have

> > > > > >> given the

> > > > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby

to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun

was in

> > the

> > > > > >> sixth

> > > > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in

the tenth. In that specific

> > scenario

> > > > > >> the

> > > > > >> > >> native was suffering on

account of repeated legal

> > battles.

> > > > > >> The

> > > > > >> > >> reason being on account

of Rähu. This is further

> > explained

> > > > > >> as:

> > > > > >> > >> when a graha occupies

the Simhasana bhavas (10^th ,

> > 1^st or

> > > > > >> 5^th

> > > > > >> > >> in that order) that

graha causes an eclipse on the

third

> > > > > >> graha in

> > > > > >> > >> the order of the

Varachakra. Viz. in the order of

> > weekdays

> > > > > >> the

> > > > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu

is the Sun, hence when Rähu

is in

> > the

> > > > > >> tenth

> > > > > >> > >> house the native will

have problems on account of

the

> > house

> > > > > >> > >> placement and lordship

of the Sun in their life.

> > Similarly

> > > > > >> if

> > > > > >> > >> among the Simhasana

Bhava only Mars is placed in the

> > fifth

> > > > > >> house

> > > > > >> > >> then the placement and

lordship of Jupiter will be

> > > > hampered.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many

uses in matters of Jyotish,

and

> > > > > >> this is

> > > > > >> > >> the logic behind many

principles in the Brighu

Sutras.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Gunachakra

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> #

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Graha

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Guna

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 1

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Sun

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Satva

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 2

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Moon

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 3

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Jupiter

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 4

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Rähu

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 5

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Mercury

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Rajas

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 6

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Venus

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 7

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ketu

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 8

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Saturn

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Tamas

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 9

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Mars

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied

somewhat differently than the

> > > > > >> Varachakra.

> > > > > >> > >> If a Graha is

inauspicious then we can choose to

lock or

> > > > > >> unlock

> > > > > >> > >> its indications using

the fourth or seventh graha

in the

> > > > > >> > >> gunachakra

respectively. Example: cancer and

tumours are

> > > > > >> caused

> > > > > >> > >> by a malignant growth

of cancer-cells in the body

and is

> > > > > >> > >> signified by an

afflicted Jupiter. In the

Gunachakra the

> > > > > >> fourth

> > > > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is

Venus who can block the

spread of

> > > > > >> cancer.

> > > > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a

disease wearing diamond is

advised

> > > > > >> along

> > > > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra.

Similarly Mars can cause

nervous

> > > > > >> system

> > > > > >> > >> issues such as

Parkinsons and the likes, and to

block

> > this

> > > > > >> issue

> > > > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter

is advised along with the

> > Mrtyunjaya

> > > > > >> bijas.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Should a graha already

be blocking the native in one

> > aspect

> > > > > >> of

> > > > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker

(7^th graha) is required.

I.e.

> > if

> > > > > >> for

> > > > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord

Venus is placed in Libra, the

> > native

> > > > > >> will

> > > > > >> > >> be bothered by constant

disease on account of wrong

> > > > > >> application

> > > > > >> > >> of intelligence.

Therefore the intellect can be

deemed

> > as

> > > > > >> locked

> > > > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow

Topaz/Sapphire is advised.

> > Similarly

> > > > > >> if Moon

> > > > > >> > >> is very badly placed

and has no ni-cha bhanga then a

> > Blue

> > > > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as

Saturn is the seventh graha

from

> > the

> > > > > >> Moon

> > > > > >> > >> in weekday order and

can unlock these negatives.

> > > > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly

more applications of the

> > Gunachakra

> > > > > >> in this

> > > > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones,

yet until I have been

presented

> > > > with

> > > > > >> > >> them, this is what I

have to share.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Having ascertained the

gemstone as per the Rashi

chart

> > it

> > > > is

> > > > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the

Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein

> > graha

> > > > > >> lording

> > > > > >> > >> the second house is a

ma-raka to the ojas in the

body

> > and

> > > > > >> will

> > > > > >> > >> curtail health and

sexuality. This gemstone is

therefore

> > > > not

> > > > > >> > >> advised, and neither is

the lord of the twelfth as

this

> > is

> > > > > >> the

> > > > > >> > >> sixth lord from the

seventh house causing celibacy

to

> > the

> > > > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the

sixth and eighth lords

affect the

> > > > > >> partner

> > > > > >> > >> in a similar fashion

and those gemstones should

> > preferably

> > > > > >> also

> > > > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising

the third lord's gem can

increase

> > the

> > > > > >> > >> person's libido

significantly and advising this

gemstone

> > > > > >> should

> > > > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully.

The gem of the lagna lord is

the

> > best

> > > > > >> and

> > > > > >> > >> ensures good health and

fame. Apply this advice

> > > > > >> intelligently.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Hope this helps to

share insight.

> > > > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti

Larsen

> > > > > >> > >> ------------ ---------

--------- --------- ----

> > > > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda.

com

> > > > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev:

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >>> ||aum namah

shivaya||

> > > > > >> > >>>

> > > > > >> > >>> dear visti,

> > > > > >> > >>> namaste.

> > > > > >> > >>>

> > > > > >> > >>> Well , the point

that he landed into troubles with

the

> > > > > >> advent of

> > > > > >> > >>> Rahu

> > > > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more

sense now , but still you havent

> > > > > >> answered .. is

> > > > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to

wear each other's gemstones ?

or

> > is it

> > > > > >> real

> > > > > >> > >>> parivartana that

fulfils the condition for gemtsone

> > > > > >> exchange !!

> > > > > >> > >>>

> > > > > >> > >>> however , first we

need to really understand , that

> > > > > >> conjunction

> > > > > >> > >>> actually makes

planets behave like each other

> > completely ?

> > > > > >> or

> > > > > >> > >>> only do

> > > > > >> > >>> they give each

others effects in the dasha ?

> > > > > >> > >>>

> > > > > >> > >>> and if conj makes

planets behave like each other ?

then

> > > > > >> what does

> > > > > >> > >>> parivartana do ?

does it also do the same ? if not

the

> > > > > >> same , then

> > > > > >> > >>> whats different abt

a parivartana then a conj ?

> > > > > >> > >>>

> > > > > >> > >>> humble regards,

> > > > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal.

> > > > > >> > >>>

> > > > > >> > >>> --- In

> > > > > >> > >>>

<%40>, Visti

Larsen

> > > > > >> > >>> <visti@>

wrote:

> > > > > >> > >>> >

> > > > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ?????

> > > > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan

and Swee, Namaskar.

> > > > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha

Rao did see the legal issues and

jail

> > time,

> > > > > >> but

> > > > > >> > >>> through his

> > > > > >> > >>> > third and

eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was

> > > > > >> untouched. It was

> > > > > >> > >>> not

> > > > > >> > >>> > until Rahu

Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence

> > pointing

> > > > > >> out

> > > > > >> > >>> clearly

> > > > > >> > >>> > that the

wearing of the Coral during Mars

mahadasa

> > was

> > > > > >> perfect

> > > > > >> > >>> advise...

> > > > > >> > >>> > Afterall he

became Prime Minister after wearing

it!

> > How

> > > > > >> many can

> > > > > >> > >>> > astrologers

can boast of a client attaining that

once

> > > > > >> following a

> > > > > >> > >>> > remedial

measure?

> > > > > >> > >>> > Yours

sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > > > >> > >>> > ------------

--------- --------- --------- ----

> > > > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda.

com

<http://srigaruda.com/

<http://srigaruda.com/>>>>

> > > > <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>

> > > > > >> <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>

> > <http://srigaruda.com/

> > > > > >> > >>> > @: visti@

> > > > > >> > >>> >

> > > > > >> > >>> > Chandan

Ssabarwal skrev:

> > > > > >> > >>> > > ||aum

namah shivaya||

> > > > > >> > >>> > >

> > > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee

and visti,

> > > > > >> > >>> > > namaste !

> > > > > >> > >>> > >

> > > > > >> > >>> > > swee -

you are right abt PV Narasimha going to

jail

> > > > > >> and also

> > > > > >> > >>> being

> > > > > >> > >>> > > held up

in litigation (6th house effects) ,

that

> > > > > >> eventually

> > > > > >> > >>> came

> > > > > >> > >>> > > upon unto

him , after some of his own party

members

> > > > and

> > > > > >> > >>> associates

> > > > > >> > >>> > >

(mercury), accused him of bribery and even

showed

> > the

> > > > > >> > >>> briefcase ,

> > > > > >> > >>> in

> > > > > >> > >>> > > which he

was actually deliveered INR 10

million .

> > > > > >> > >>> > >

> > > > > >> > >>> > > Visti -

when you mentioned , that a red coral

is

> > being

> > > > > >> > >>> advised to

> > > > > >> > >>> worn

> > > > > >> > >>> > > simply

based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury

in

> > 10th

> > > > > >> House ,

> > > > > >> > >>> merc

> > > > > >> > >>> > > being

lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the

> > basic

> > > > > >> theory

> > > > > >> > >>> behind

> > > > > >> > >>> > > this ...

and i still remember reading

somehwere on

> > > > > >> your website

> > > > > >> > >>> where

> > > > > >> > >>> > > you

mentioned , only complete parivartana is

actual

> > > > > >> exhange of

> > > > > >> > >>> houses

> > > > > >> > >>> > > and not

simply conj....

> > > > > >> > >>> > >

> > > > > >> > >>> > > conj

simply gives results of each others in

> > > > > >> Dasas's ... but

> > > > > >> > >>> actual

> > > > > >> > >>> > > potency

and maleficience / benificience is

based

> > upon

> > > > > >> Rasi /

> > > > > >> > >>> Dasamasa !

> > > > > >> > >>> > >

> > > > > >> > >>> > > how could

some one possibly advise a gemstone

just

> > > > > >> based upon

> > > > > >> > >>> rasi and

> > > > > >> > >>> > > not even

consider damasa , especially when

career

> > is

> > > > > >> > >>> concerend ?

> > > > > >> > >>> > > moreover

, that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in

> > Narasimha's

> > > > > >> case ,

> > > > > >> > >>> somehow

> > > > > >> > >>> > > makes me

believe , it should have been the

Emerald

> > > > > >> that he

> > > > > >> > >>> should

> > > > > >> > >>> have

> > > > > >> > >>> > > worn and

not the red coral ...

> > > > > >> > >>> > >

> > > > > >> > >>> > > also ,

mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the

Sun ,

> > so

> > > > > >> once again

> > > > > >> > >>> emerald.

> > > > > >> > >>> > > i had

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> > out ,

> > > > > >> glad swee

> > > > > >> > >>> bought

> > > > > >> > >>> > > it up !!

> > > > > >> > >>> > >

> > > > > >> > >>> > > humbly

yours,

> > > > > >> > >>> > > chandan s

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Typo:

Correct version:

We should not give gem which karaka of sits in 2H in D3(Sn).

Rafal Gendarz

chandan486 pisze:

||aum namah shivaya||

dear rafal,

namaste.

Well , the explanation that i gave was purely based on visti's

article and somehow i tried to explain myself that I had learnt

something new about gemstones. However , Im a big fan of classical

texts and concepts that directly come from the *source*.

So i suggest , either you personally talk to Sanjay ji on this and i

too will try or else , visti or zoran could please share with all of

us the perfect sanskrit sloka that clearly states reversing gemtsones

purely based on yuti.

Personally i believe however learned anyone of us maybe , but we are

still very small kids intellectually to understand the intricacies of

Jyotisa on the level that the Maharsis understood.

Also , Parivartana makes more sense just about it. I too have a sun

ve conj in my rasi , sun being 5th lord , but i wear a ruby , becuase

i was ignorantly wearing a diamond for almost about 2 years and there

always used to be some jala tattwa problem with my health !!

trust me , personal experience is the best !

so based on yuti gemstone exchange , i do not see diamond working for

me , whereas the natural 5th lord stone ; ruby is doing perfect !

thoughts please!

humble regards,

Chandan S sabarwal.

,

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme

wrote:

>

> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> Dear Chandan, Namaskar

>

> So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when

it

> comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen if person is

spiritual or

> not, after all dharma

> is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage,

progeny,

> social values etc - big parts of life for materialists.

>

> When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much

attention

> Sanjayji places towards so called temporal malefics - here Mangal

is

> definitely temporal malefic

> and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we use

only

> parivartana for gems then based solely on this principle advising

Coral

> is quite unfortunate decision.

>

> Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its dominated

by

> Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and tatkalika sambandha

here. So

> its badly placed by lordship, sambandha

> and placement from AL. So Coral is worst.

>

> More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits in 2H

in D3

> (Sn).

>

> What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad which

Mangal

> gives here?

>

> OR

>

> we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon for

Meena

> Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> -----------------------------

> Consultations and Pages:

> rafal

>

> chandan486 pisze:

> >

> > ||aum namah shivaya||

> >

> > Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti,

> > Namaste.

> >

> > I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal

and you

> > two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details.

> > Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal

chart

> > analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i

seem to

be

> > correct about the advise for a Red Coral.

> >

> > 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which can

be

seen

> > from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged.

> > Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have

conjoined ,

> > Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones

adjacent to

> > it , those ayanas will get exchanged.

> > This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius -

Kama

and

> > Pisces - Moksha.

> >

> > Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones adjacent

to

it

> > get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and Cancer

-

> > Moksha ..

> >

> > The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to yuti

is

> > Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a political

leader

> > and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana .

> > So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised.

> > Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which Zoran

already

> > mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with

nothing to

> > obstruct.

> >

> > Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which

anyways

is

> > more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala

prevails.

> >

> > 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is Varki

...

> > Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good idea

,

as it

> > only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is

best

> > choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa.

> >

> > I think i made a pretty neat assemement.

> >

> > Comments Please !!

> >

> > humble regards,

> > Chandan S Sabarwal.

> >

> > <%40>,

Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> > > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar

> > >

> > > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral

then the

> > answer was:

> > >

> > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

> > > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do

gemstones.

> > Does

> > > that clarify?

> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > ----------

> > >

> > > Now you are stating again that it is only for

parivartana.

> > >

> > > June 28, 1921

> > > Time: 12:49:00

> > > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT)

> > > Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00"

> > >

> > > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is

third and

> > eight

> > > lord, so the question is the same :

> > >

> > > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon

and

Surya

> > yuti

> > > we perscribe Ruby

> > >

> > > or

> > >

> > > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for

Narasimha

Rao?

> > >

> > > If there is no answer to this simple question then just

admit it

> > and

> > > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > -----------------------------

> > > Consultations and Pages:

> > > rafal@

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > -----------------------------

> > > Consultations and Pages:

> > > rafal@

> > >

> > > ahimsavm pisze:

> > > >

> > > > Om Namah Shivaya,

> > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti

has very

> > > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada

effects are

> > reversed,

> > > > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if

we

subsitute

> > the

> > > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully

reversing their

> > > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains

uninfluenced.

So,

> > > > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada.

Only in Full

> > > > reversal (Parivartana), I have seen Sanjayji

recommending the

> > change

> > > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in

5th house

and

> > > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of

Shani and

Shukra.

> > > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house,

Sanjayji

> > recommended

> > > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra

specifically.This

> > was

> > > > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as

well.

> > > > Best wishes

> > > > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > > > www.siva-edu.info

> > > > www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

> > > >

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>,

Rafal Gendarz

> > <starsuponme@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> > > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar

> > > > >

> > > > > The whole disussion is about if we use the

other gem based

on

> > yuti

> > > > or

> > > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you

say its also

for

> > > > yuti, now

> > > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If

ninth lord is

with

> > > > Shani

> > > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then

the yuti graha

> > Shani

> > > > will

> > > > > work, based on that using Neelam will

strenghten the yuti

graha

> > > > which is

> > > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya.

> > > > >

> > > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord

neecha sign ?

How

> > can

> > > > you

> > > > > perscribe 6L gem?

> > > > >

> > > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of

gems can be done

> > ONLY

> > > > in

> > > > > PARIVARTANA. "

> > > > >

> > > > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao?

> > > > >

> > > > > Or I have missed something?

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > -----------------------------

> > > > > Consultations and Pages:

> > > > > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>

> > > > > rafal@

> > > > >

> > > > > Visti Larsen pisze:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ??? ??? ?????

> > > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

> > > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti

ninth lord? That

would

> > > > give

> > > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the

main points that

Zoki

> > is

> > > > > > rising here.

> > > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > > > > ----------

> > > > > > www: http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>

> > > > > > @: visti@

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ahimsavm skrev:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya,

> > > > > >> Dear Rafal,

> > > > > >> What Visti has written about

Sambhanda is correct.

However,

> > this

> > > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY

in PARIVARTANA. If

you

> > > > have

> > > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for

Meena, I would never

> > > > prescribe

> > > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon

is placed in 8th

house.

> > In

> > > > that

> > > > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue

Sapphire for health.

> > > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby

because it would

block the

> > > > Shani

> > > > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such

a case Surja should

be

> > in

> > > > good

> > > > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru.

Another possibility is

MOti

> > > > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta

is very good for

Mangal

> > and

> > > > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you

may risk the rise of

bad

> > > > luck.

> > > > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani

Mangal placement in the

> > chart.

> > > > > >> Best wishes

> > > > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic

> > > > > >> www.siva-edu.info

> > > > > >> www.ahimsazr1.wordpress.com

> > > > > >>

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>

> > > > > >> <%40>,

Rafal Gendarz

> > > > <starsuponme@>

> > > > > >> wrote:

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> > > > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > Yes.

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti

Mangal - I should

perscribe

> > > > Neelam

> > > > > >> to

> > > > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal?

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > Regards,

> > > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > >> > -----------------------------

> > > > > >> > Consultations and Pages:

> > > > > >> > http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>

> > <http://rohinaa.com

> > > > <http://rohinaa.com <http://rohinaa.com>>>

> > > > > >> > rafal@

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze:

> > > > > >> > >

> > > > > >> > > ??? ??? ?????

> > > > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.

> > > > > >> > > The final effect is the

same, as had the parivartana

done

> > > > > >> otherwise

> > > > > >> > > then he would not have

cancer.

> > > > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the

Cancer was solely caused by

> > > > Jupiter in

> > > > > >> this

> > > > > >> > > case as we see Rahu

involved in a curse of mother

from

> > past

> > > > life

> > > > > >> and

> > > > > >> > > involving the sixth lord

(roga) Ketu.

> > > > > >> > > Still the advise is the

same.

> > > > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti

Larsen

> > > > > >> > > ----------

> > > > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda.com

<http://srigaruda.com>

> > > > <http://srigaruda.com <http://srigaruda.com>

<http://srigaruda.com

> > <http://srigaruda.com>>>

> > > > > >> > > @: visti@

> > > > > >> > >

> > > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev:

> > > > > >> > >

> > > > > >> > >> Dear Visti

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing

that information. Really

wonderful

> > > > mail.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of

a person who has been

detected

> > with

> > > > > >> liver

> > > > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have

given him six months time to

> > live.

> > > > In

> > > > > >> his

> > > > > >> > >> chart jup is in

exchance with venus. Should he wear

a

> > > > pokhraj

> > > > > >> instead

> > > > > >> > >> of diamond?

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> If you could kindly

take a look and advice it

woiuld be

> > > > great..

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977

> > > > > >> > >> 12:20 pm

> > > > > >> > >> calcutta

> > > > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh

rasi..

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> -Regards

> > > > > >> > >> Rajarshi

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> /*

> > > > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of

consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva

> > Sutra*

> > > > > >> > >> */

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08,

Maja S

> > (trbac /<majastrbacastro@>/*

> > > > > >> wrote:

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac

<majastrbacastro@>

> > > > > >> > >> Re: [Om

Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing

gemstone on

> > > > > >> divisonal

> > > > > >> > >> charts ?

> > > > > >> > >>

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>

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> > > > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16

December, 2008, 8:47 PM

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> WOW!

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> As far as I am

concerned, your email bellow is

a "Marry

> > > > > >> Christmas

> > > > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in

advance".

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Thank you so much for

shearing it with us!

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Warm Regards,

> > > > > >> > >> Maja Strbac

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08,

Visti

Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

> > > > > >> com>/* wrote:

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Visti Larsen

> > > > > >> > >> Re: [Om

Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing

gemstone on

> > > > > >> > >> divisonal charts ?

> > > > > >> > >> @

. com

> > > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December

16, 2008, 7:09 AM

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> ??? ??? ?????

> > > > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

> > > > > >> > >> Excuse me for not

answering in full in my last

mail, I

> > > > > >> > >> realise no one learns

if no one shares, so here is

what

> > > > > >> I

> > > > > >> > >> have learned and have

to share.

> > > > > >> > >> I have gathered the

following rules reg. gemstones

with

> > > > > >> time

> > > > > >> > >> (this will be

republished on my website for

reference):

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> The prescription of

metals or gemstones belongs to

the

> > > > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e.

Tanu+Trayi meaning to

protect

> > > > > >> the

> > > > > >> > >> body. This is best to

advise when a person may be

> > > > > >> making a

> > > > > >> > >> wrong decision and you

want them to stick to the

right

> > > > > >> one.

> > > > > >> > >> Just as one can advise

gemstones to protect the

body,

> > > > > >> there

> > > > > >> > >> are gemstones which can

remove the protection of the

> > > > > >> body,

> > > > > >> > >> hence one should advise

these wisely.

> > > > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for

gemstone is r/atna/ but does not

> > > > > >> literally

> > > > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can

also refer to treasure,

jewel,

> > > > > >> > >> precious stone, and is

derived from the word /ra-/

> > > > > >> meaning a

> > > > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or

riches. (Monier-Williams)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> The word /ratna/

specifically refers to nine types

of

> > > > > >> > >> treasure or jewels

namely mukta (pearl), vajra

> > > > > >> (diamond),

> > > > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby),

/pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-

la

> > > > > >> > >> (clear/stainless

sapphire), marakata (emerald),

vaidu-

> > > > > >> rya

> > > > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma

(coral) and gomeda (hessonite)./

> > > > > >> For the

> > > > > >> > >> same reason the word

/ratna/ also means nine in

vedic

> > > > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga

has been translated as

Topaz by

> > > > > >> most,

> > > > > >> > >> however the Garuda

Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does

> > > > > >> state

> > > > > >> > >> that different colours

of the /pushpara-ga /can be

> > > > > >> regarded

> > > > > >> > >> as equal to the

/indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-

ga

> > > > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore,

among the /indrani-la

> > > > > >> (Sapphire) /we must

> > > > > >> > >> infer that certain

shades (i.e. yellow) can be

regarded

> > > > > >> as

> > > > > >> > >> giving the effects of

/pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence,

> > > > > >> whilst

> > > > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in

the same group of /indrani-

la/ the

> > > > > >> > >> colour of them being

different also differentiates

the

> > > > > >> > >> effects of wearing them

greatly. Details should be

> > > > > >> learned

> > > > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana

in this regard.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed

to reside in the particle of a

> > ratna

> > > > > >> which

> > > > > >> > >> is clear, bright,

without cracks or lines in it and

has

> > no

> > > > > >> > >> unusual shades in it.

Hence, the wearing of a ratna

is

> > for

> > > > > >> the

> > > > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva

next to you and protecting

you.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the

various metals known as Dhatu.

> > Moon,

> > > > > >> Mars,

> > > > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu

signify the Dhatu and among them

Moon

> > > > > >> rules over

> > > > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars

rules over the earth, Saturn

over the

> > > > raw

> > > > > >> > >> minerals such as oil

and irons whilst Ra-hu rules

over

> > the

> > > > > >> rare

> > > > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and

platinum. Hence, Moon is

Ratna

> > ka-

> > > > > >> raka

> > > > > >> > >> and divisional charts

as Somanatha Drekkana and

> > Somanatha

> > > > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most

important to judge the effect

of

> > > > > >> gemstones.

> > > > > >> > >> As specifically the

Drekkana refers to ones karma

and

> > this

> > > > > >> is

> > > > > >> > >> signified by ones

hands, the Somanatha drekkana is

apt

> > to

> > > > > >> judge

> > > > > >> > >> the effects of

gemstones. Specifically this

divisional

> > > > chart

> > > > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how

one uses it. Strong ojas can

> > grant

> > > > > >> fame,

> > > > > >> > >> and hence this

divisional chart can be used to see

ones

> > > > > >> > >> popularity as well as

sexuality where ones ojas is

used.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all

gemstones is also known

> > > > > >> as /gunatmaka/,

> > > > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the

form of /guna/ or attributes.

> > Hence to

> > > > > >> > >> understand the effects

of a gemstone vis-a-vis other

> > > > > >> gemstones we

> > > > > >> > >> use the gunachakra.

This is also used for other

purposes

> > > > > >> and is

> > > > > >> > >> an integral part of

Vedic numerology. This will be

> > > > explained

> > > > > >> > >> further below.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Which finger to wear

the gemstone on can be

understood

> > from

> > > > > >> Vedic

> > > > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology,

by Sanjay Rath. The four

fingers

> > > > > >> represent

> > > > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma

and ka-ma respectively for the

> > index,

> > > > > >> > >> middle, ring and little

fingers. No gem is advised

on

> > the

> > > > > >> index

> > > > > >> > >> finger as it risks

blocking moksha and increasing

> > ahamkara.

> > > > > >> The

> > > > > >> > >> following table has

been culled out of the same

work.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and

Ratna (Rath)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ratna

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Finger

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ruby

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Pearl

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger

(3^rd or 4^th from index)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Coral

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger

(2^nd or 3^rd from index)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Emerald

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Middle or little

fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow

Sapphire

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Diamond

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger

(2^nd or 4^th from index)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Hessonite

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger

(2^nd or 4^th from index)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Cats eye

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger

(2^nd or 3^rd from index)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states

that gemstones can do great

good

> > for

> > > > > >> the

> > > > > >> > >> human race and they

have natural (Naisargika)

> > > > > >> characteristics

> > > > > >> > >> which will benefit

everyone. Example: a lady

wishing to

> > be

> > > > a

> > > > > >> > >> mother would benefit

greatly from wearing a

pushpara-ga

> > > > > >> (topaz)

> > > > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow

sapphire). Similarly a person

having

> > > > > >> cancer

> > > > > >> > >> should wear a diamond

and recite mrtyunjaya mantra.

> > These

> > > > > >> natural

> > > > > >> > >> indications of

gemstones can be applied to all the

> > > > > >> gemstones and

> > > > > >> > >> the effects are given

in Garuda Purana.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and

Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Graha

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ratna

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Translation

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Sun

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Padmara-ga

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ruby

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Moon

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Mukta

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Pearl

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Mars

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Vidruma

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Coral

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Mercury

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Marakata

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Emerald

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Jupiter

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Venus

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Vajra

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Diamond

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Saturn

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Indrani-la

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Rahu

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Gomeda

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Hessonite

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ketu

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Cats eye

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Tradition is everything

when it comes to applying

any

> > > > > >> advice and

> > > > > >> > >> hereunder is some of

the advice that I have gathered

> > from

> > > > my

> > > > > >> > >> teacher.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised

based on the first, fifth

and

> > ninth

> > > > > >> house

> > > > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1)

chart. These are the best

> > gemstones

> > > > > >> and

> > > > > >> > >> will support the native

in their purpose of life.

The

> > first

> > > > > >> lord

> > > > > >> > >> protects the head and

intelligence, the fifth

protects

> > the

> > > > > >> hands

> > > > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the

ninth protects the legs, and

hence

> > > > the

> > > > > >> > >> native will always

select the best path in life if

the

> > > > > >> gemstone

> > > > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is

worn. Thus the ninth lord is

the

> > most

> > > > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone.

This can also be used to

advise the

> > > > > >> best

> > > > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in

particular parts of the

body.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the

ninth house cause misfortune,

> > and in

> > > > > >> such

> > > > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are

advised.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Gemstone advised

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Saturn

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for

ladies)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Rähu

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or

Yellow Topaz

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ketu

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Gold ring

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Mars

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Pearl

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth,

eighth or twelfth house

lords

> > are

> > > > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause

strife, disease and loss

> > > > > >> respectively and

> > > > > >> > >> should not be worn.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> To both the above there

are exceptions which occur

on

> > > > > >> account of

> > > > > >> > >> Yoga.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha

(reference: Atri Classes)

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> The graha give their

effects by affecting the four

> > ayana or

> > > > > >> goals

> > > > > >> > >> of the person's life

namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and

> > moksha

> > > > > >> > >> symbolised by the

first, second, third or fourth

pada

> > of a

> > > > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery,

earthy, airy and watery signs

> > > > > >> respectively.

> > > > > >> > >> When a graha is in

parivartana yoga with another,

then

> > the

> > > > > >> other

> > > > > >> > >> graha will affect all

four ayana of the former

graha.

> > > > > >> Therefore,

> > > > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in

parivartana with the sixth

lord

> > the

> > > > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth

lord should be advised.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha

is yuti another graha it

takes on

> > > > > >> three of

> > > > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the

other graha. Which three

ayana

> > > > > >> depends on

> > > > > >> > >> i) the particular

grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two

signs

> > > > > >> adjacent

> > > > > >> > >> that particular sign.

Example: If Sun is joined

Venus

> > then

> > > > > >> Sun

> > > > > >> > >> will give the effects

of Venus. In such a case

should

> > Sun

> > > > be

> > > > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha

of Capricorn then it would

give

> > the

> > > > > >> > >> effects of Venus'

Artha-ayana due to being in an

earthy

> > > > > >> Navamsha,

> > > > > >> > >> and further as the

Navamsha before is that of a

fiery

> > sign

> > > > > >> and

> > > > > >> > >> that after being an

airy sign, the Sun would give

the

> > > > > >> effects of

> > > > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana

(fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy)

as

> > well,

> > > > > >> but

> > > > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana

(watery).

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> If three or more graha

join then the interchange of

> > effects

> > > > > >> will

> > > > > >> > >> be decided based on the

natural benefic/malefic

> > indications

> > > > > >> of

> > > > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if

Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join

then

> > > > the

> > > > > >> > >> highest malefic and

highest benefic will interchange

> > > > > >> results,

> > > > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and

Jupiter to interchange

results

> > > > > >> whilst

> > > > > >> > >> Mercury will give not

give the results of anyone.

> > Similarly

> > > > > >> apply

> > > > > >> > >> this to conjunction of

more grahas.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> The two remaining

Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and

> > Parivartana

> > > > > >> > >> dristi are not taken

into account for this purpose

as

> > they

> > > > > >> only

> > > > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana

among the full four ayana

of a

> > > > > >> graha, yet

> > > > > >> > >> are still applied when

timing events.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Va-rachakra

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> #

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Graha

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 1

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Sun

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 2

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Moon

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 3

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Mars

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 4

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Mercury

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 5

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Jupiter

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 6

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Venus

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 7

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Saturn

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 8

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Rähu

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 9

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ketu

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> In some cases the

gemstones of the sixth, eighth or

> > twelfth

> > > > > >> lords

> > > > > >> > >> needs to be given to as

those graha are causing

> > excessive

> > > > > >> > >> problems to the native.

This occurs when another

graha

> > is

> > > > > >> causing

> > > > > >> > >> an eclipse on that

graha and thus denying it of its

> > > > positive

> > > > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri

Kashinatha Rath was recalled to

have

> > > > > >> given the

> > > > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby

to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun

was in

> > the

> > > > > >> sixth

> > > > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in

the tenth. In that specific

> > scenario

> > > > > >> the

> > > > > >> > >> native was suffering on

account of repeated legal

> > battles.

> > > > > >> The

> > > > > >> > >> reason being on account

of Rähu. This is further

> > explained

> > > > > >> as:

> > > > > >> > >> when a graha occupies

the Simhasana bhavas (10^th ,

> > 1^st or

> > > > > >> 5^th

> > > > > >> > >> in that order) that

graha causes an eclipse on the

third

> > > > > >> graha in

> > > > > >> > >> the order of the

Varachakra. Viz. in the order of

> > weekdays

> > > > > >> the

> > > > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu

is the Sun, hence when Rähu

is in

> > the

> > > > > >> tenth

> > > > > >> > >> house the native will

have problems on account of

the

> > house

> > > > > >> > >> placement and lordship

of the Sun in their life.

> > Similarly

> > > > > >> if

> > > > > >> > >> among the Simhasana

Bhava only Mars is placed in the

> > fifth

> > > > > >> house

> > > > > >> > >> then the placement and

lordship of Jupiter will be

> > > > hampered.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many

uses in matters of Jyotish,

and

> > > > > >> this is

> > > > > >> > >> the logic behind many

principles in the Brighu

Sutras.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Gunachakra

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> #

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Graha

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Guna

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 1

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Sun

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Satva

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 2

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Moon

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 3

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Jupiter

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 4

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Rähu

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 5

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Mercury

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Rajas

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 6

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Venus

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 7

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Ketu

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 8

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Saturn

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Tamas

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> 9

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Mars

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied

somewhat differently than the

> > > > > >> Varachakra.

> > > > > >> > >> If a Graha is

inauspicious then we can choose to

lock or

> > > > > >> unlock

> > > > > >> > >> its indications using

the fourth or seventh graha

in the

> > > > > >> > >> gunachakra

respectively. Example: cancer and

tumours are

> > > > > >> caused

> > > > > >> > >> by a malignant growth

of cancer-cells in the body

and is

> > > > > >> > >> signified by an

afflicted Jupiter. In the

Gunachakra the

> > > > > >> fourth

> > > > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is

Venus who can block the

spread of

> > > > > >> cancer.

> > > > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a

disease wearing diamond is

advised

> > > > > >> along

> > > > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra.

Similarly Mars can cause

nervous

> > > > > >> system

> > > > > >> > >> issues such as

Parkinsons and the likes, and to

block

> > this

> > > > > >> issue

> > > > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter

is advised along with the

> > Mrtyunjaya

> > > > > >> bijas.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Should a graha already

be blocking the native in one

> > aspect

> > > > > >> of

> > > > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker

(7^th graha) is required.

I.e.

> > if

> > > > > >> for

> > > > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord

Venus is placed in Libra, the

> > native

> > > > > >> will

> > > > > >> > >> be bothered by constant

disease on account of wrong

> > > > > >> application

> > > > > >> > >> of intelligence.

Therefore the intellect can be

deemed

> > as

> > > > > >> locked

> > > > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow

Topaz/Sapphire is advised.

> > Similarly

> > > > > >> if Moon

> > > > > >> > >> is very badly placed

and has no ni-cha bhanga then a

> > Blue

> > > > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as

Saturn is the seventh graha

from

> > the

> > > > > >> Moon

> > > > > >> > >> in weekday order and

can unlock these negatives.

> > > > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly

more applications of the

> > Gunachakra

> > > > > >> in this

> > > > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones,

yet until I have been

presented

> > > > with

> > > > > >> > >> them, this is what I

have to share.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Having ascertained the

gemstone as per the Rashi

chart

> > it

> > > > is

> > > > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the

Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein

> > graha

> > > > > >> lording

> > > > > >> > >> the second house is a

ma-raka to the ojas in the

body

> > and

> > > > > >> will

> > > > > >> > >> curtail health and

sexuality. This gemstone is

therefore

> > > > not

> > > > > >> > >> advised, and neither is

the lord of the twelfth as

this

> > is

> > > > > >> the

> > > > > >> > >> sixth lord from the

seventh house causing celibacy

to

> > the

> > > > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the

sixth and eighth lords

affect the

> > > > > >> partner

> > > > > >> > >> in a similar fashion

and those gemstones should

> > preferably

> > > > > >> also

> > > > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising

the third lord's gem can

increase

> > the

> > > > > >> > >> person's libido

significantly and advising this

gemstone

> > > > > >> should

> > > > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully.

The gem of the lagna lord is

the

> > best

> > > > > >> and

> > > > > >> > >> ensures good health and

fame. Apply this advice

> > > > > >> intelligently.

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> Hope this helps to

share insight.

> > > > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti

Larsen

> > > > > >> > >> ------------ ---------

--------- --------- ----

> > > > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda.

com

> > > > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev:

> > > > > >> > >>

> > > > > >> > >>> ||aum namah

shivaya||

> > > > > >> > >>>

> > > > > >> > >>> dear visti,

> > > > > >> > >>> namaste.

> > > > > >> > >>>

> > > > > >> > >>> Well , the point

that he landed into troubles with

the

> > > > > >> advent of

> > > > > >> > >>> Rahu

> > > > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more

sense now , but still you havent

> > > > > >> answered .. is

> > > > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to

wear each other's gemstones ?

or

> > is it

> > > > > >> real

> > > > > >> > >>> parivartana that

fulfils the condition for gemtsone

> > > > > >> exchange !!

> > > > > >> > >>>

> > > > > >> > >>> however , first we

need to really understand , that

> > > > > >> conjunction

> > > > > >> > >>> actually makes

planets behave like each other

> > completely ?

> > > > > >> or

> > > > > >> > >>> only do

> > > > > >> > >>> they give each

others effects in the dasha ?

> > > > > >> > >>>

> > > > > >> > >>> and if conj makes

planets behave like each other ?

then

> > > > > >> what does

> > > > > >> > >>> parivartana do ?

does it also do the same ? if not

the

> > > > > >> same , then

> > > > > >> > >>> whats different abt

a parivartana then a conj ?

> > > > > >> > >>>

> > > > > >> > >>> humble regards,

> > > > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal.

> > > > > >> > >>>

> > > > > >> > >>> --- In

> > > > > >> > >>>

<%40>, Visti

Larsen

> > > > > >> > >>> <visti@>

wrote:

> > > > > >> > >>> >

> > > > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ?????

> > > > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan

and Swee, Namaskar.

> > > > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha

Rao did see the legal issues and

jail

> > time,

> > > > > >> but

> > > > > >> > >>> through his

> > > > > >> > >>> > third and

eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was

> > > > > >> untouched. It was

> > > > > >> > >>> not

> > > > > >> > >>> > until Rahu

Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence

> > pointing

> > > > > >> out

> > > > > >> > >>> clearly

> > > > > >> > >>> > that the

wearing of the Coral during Mars

mahadasa

> > was

> > > > > >> perfect

> > > > > >> > >>> advise...

> > > > > >> > >>> > Afterall he

became Prime Minister after wearing

it!

> > How

> > > > > >> many can

> > > > > >> > >>> > astrologers

can boast of a client attaining that

once

> > > > > >> following a

> > > > > >> > >>> > remedial

measure?

> > > > > >> > >>> > Yours

sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > > > >> > >>> > ------------

--------- --------- --------- ----

> > > > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda.

com

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> > > > <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>>

> > > > > >> <http://srigaruda.com/ <http://srigaruda.com/>

> > <http://srigaruda.com/

> > > > > >> > >>> > @: visti@

> > > > > >> > >>> >

> > > > > >> > >>> > Chandan

Ssabarwal skrev:

> > > > > >> > >>> > > ||aum

namah shivaya||

> > > > > >> > >>> > >

> > > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee

and visti,

> > > > > >> > >>> > > namaste !

> > > > > >> > >>> > >

> > > > > >> > >>> > > swee -

you are right abt PV Narasimha going to

jail

> > > > > >> and also

> > > > > >> > >>> being

> > > > > >> > >>> > > held up

in litigation (6th house effects) ,

that

> > > > > >> eventually

> > > > > >> > >>> came

> > > > > >> > >>> > > upon unto

him , after some of his own party

members

> > > > and

> > > > > >> > >>> associates

> > > > > >> > >>> > >

(mercury), accused him of bribery and even

showed

> > the

> > > > > >> > >>> briefcase ,

> > > > > >> > >>> in

> > > > > >> > >>> > > which he

was actually deliveered INR 10

million .

> > > > > >> > >>> > >

> > > > > >> > >>> > > Visti -

when you mentioned , that a red coral

is

> > being

> > > > > >> > >>> advised to

> > > > > >> > >>> worn

> > > > > >> > >>> > > simply

based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury

in

> > 10th

> > > > > >> House ,

> > > > > >> > >>> merc

> > > > > >> > >>> > > being

lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the

> > basic

> > > > > >> theory

> > > > > >> > >>> behind

> > > > > >> > >>> > > this ...

and i still remember reading

somehwere on

> > > > > >> your website

> > > > > >> > >>> where

> > > > > >> > >>> > > you

mentioned , only complete parivartana is

actual

> > > > > >> exhange of

> > > > > >> > >>> houses

> > > > > >> > >>> > > and not

simply conj....

> > > > > >> > >>> > >

> > > > > >> > >>> > > conj

simply gives results of each others in

> > > > > >> Dasas's ... but

> > > > > >> > >>> actual

> > > > > >> > >>> > > potency

and maleficience / benificience is

based

> > upon

> > > > > >> Rasi /

> > > > > >> > >>> Dasamasa !

> > > > > >> > >>> > >

> > > > > >> > >>> > > how could

some one possibly advise a gemstone

just

> > > > > >> based upon

> > > > > >> > >>> rasi and

> > > > > >> > >>> > > not even

consider damasa , especially when

career

> > is

> > > > > >> > >>> concerend ?

> > > > > >> > >>> > > moreover

, that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in

> > Narasimha's

> > > > > >> case ,

> > > > > >> > >>> somehow

> > > > > >> > >>> > > makes me

believe , it should have been the

Emerald

> > > > > >> that he

> > > > > >> > >>> should

> > > > > >> > >>> have

> > > > > >> > >>> > > worn and

not the red coral ...

> > > > > >> > >>> > >

> > > > > >> > >>> > > also ,

mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the

Sun ,

> > so

> > > > > >> once again

> > > > > >> > >>> emerald.

> > > > > >> > >>> > > i had

always wanted to pick up this thing with

> > out ,

> > > > > >> glad swee

> > > > > >> > >>> bought

> > > > > >> > >>> > > it up !!

> > > > > >> > >>> > >

> > > > > >> > >>> > > humbly

yours,

> > > > > >> > >>> > > chandan s

sabarwal.

> > > > > >> > >>> > >

> > > > > >> > >>> >

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Om Gurave Namah

Dear Chandan, Namaste

At the end... are you wearing a Ruby? Or was it a Yellow Sapphire? Both? Maybe you could put Diamond again... why not, the more the merrier. Besides, it is Yoga Karaka for your D10.

So your idea is to be an... Experimental pet to yourself and try all the gemstones one by one for the purposes of gaining some personal experience, right? Okie... You know, it would be nice to learn what there is about Gemstones first.

(Oops, you are trying to suggest some personal experience in Jyotish to a Jyotish Guru? At least try checking the archive of this list and then think again was this suggestion necessary. I am not surprised to read something like that in an email written by someone who has Guru as AK. You probably imagine yourself as competent to advice him better than his own Guruji Visti Larsen, right?

I see some contradiction in your writing. You wrote a whole neat novel (congratulations on patience) on exchange of effects for Grahas in Yuti (3/4 of Ayana), and then you are bringing up that wearing Ruby was perfect for you (which is contradiction to your emails from last week when Yellow sapphire was perfect for you from your "personal experience") as it gives results of 5th bhava... how come when it is giving 3/4 of Ayana for Sukra as you learned, which is Maraka for your chart, though there is a good side that Sukra is giving neecha banga to Surya in your chart. Do let me write your birth data again, a whole chart is a whole picture:

01st November 1982

17:44:39 PM (rectified by native)

88 E 22; 22 N 34

Time zone 05:30 hours East of GMT

We have already determined that you have nothing against your Pravraja Yoga. So if you decide next week to wear a Yellow Sapphire as a "perfect choice" for you, do notice that this will give 3/4 of Ayana of Sani. Your idea was to solve Sani and Rahu Graha dristi on 9th bhava. What are we going to do with Grahas placed in 9th? Is Dristi stronger than this?

Of course, all this makes sense if you have rectified your own chart correctly.

Warm Regards,

Maja Strbac

Hari Om Tat Sat

--- On Thu, 12/18/08, chandan486 <wavelogix wrote:

chandan486 <wavelogix[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 9:56 PM

||aum namah shivaya||dear rafal,namaste.Well , the explanation that i gave was purely based on visti's article and somehow i tried to explain myself that I had learnt something new about gemstones. However , Im a big fan of classical texts and concepts that directly come from the *source*.So i suggest , either you personally talk to Sanjay ji on this and i too will try or else , visti or zoran could please share with all of us the perfect sanskrit sloka that clearly states reversing gemtsones purely based on yuti.Personally i believe however learned anyone of us maybe , but we are still very small kids intellectually to understand the intricacies of Jyotisa on the level that the Maharsis understood.Also , Parivartana makes more sense just about it. I too have a sun ve conj in my rasi , sun being 5th lord , but i wear a ruby , becuase i was ignorantly wearing a

diamond for almost about 2 years and there always used to be some jala tattwa problem with my health !!trust me , personal experience is the best !so based on yuti gemstone exchange , i do not see diamond working for me , whereas the natural 5th lord stone ; ruby is doing perfect !thoughts please!humble regards,Chandan S sabarwal., Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> Dear Chandan, Namaskar> > So far I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it > comes to trikona lords. Its also hard to seen if person is spiritual or > not, after all dharma> is not only connected to spirituality

but also to marriage, progeny, > social values etc - big parts of life for materialists.> > When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much attention > Sanjayji places towards so called temporal malefics - here Mangal is > definitely temporal malefic> and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we use only > parivartana for gems then based solely on this principle advising Coral > is quite unfortunate decision.> > Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its dominated by > Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and tatkalika sambandha here. So > its badly placed by lordship, sambandha> and placement from AL. So Coral is worst.> > More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits in 2H in D3 > (Sn).> > What special rule I have omitted which conquers all

the bad which Mangal > gives here?> > OR> > we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon for Meena > Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it.> > > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> ------------ --------- --------> Consultations and Pages:> http://rohinaa. com> rafal > > > > > chandan486 pisze:> >> > ||aum namah shivaya||> >> > Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti,> > Namaste.> >> > I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal and you> > two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details.> > Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal chart> > analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i seem to

be> > correct about the advise for a Red Coral.> >> > 1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which can be seen> > from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged.> > Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have conjoined ,> > Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones adjacent to> > it , those ayanas will get exchanged.> > This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - Kama and> > Pisces - Moksha.> >> > Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones adjacent to it> > get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and Cancer -> > Moksha ..> >> > The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to yuti is> > Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a political leader> > and not a spiritualist ,

we can safely ingore this ayana .> > So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised.> > Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which Zoran already> > mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with nothing to> > obstruct.> >> > Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which anyways is> > more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala prevails.> >> > 2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is Varki ..> > Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good idea , as it> > only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is best> > choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa.> >> > I think i made a pretty neat assemement.> >> > Comments Please !!> >> > humble regards,> > Chandan S Sabarwal.>

>> > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ >> > wrote:> > >> > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> > > Dear Zoranji , Namaskar> > >> > > Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral then the> > answer was:> > >> > >> > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> > > Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do gemstones.> > Does> > > that clarify?> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > >> > >> > > Now

you are stating again that it is only for parivartana.> > >> > > June 28, 1921> > > Time: 12:49:00> > > Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT)> > > Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00"> > >> > > In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is third and> > eight> > > lord, so the question is the same :> > >> > > a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon and Surya> > yuti> > > we perscribe Ruby> > >> > > or> > >> > > b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for Narasimha Rao?> > >> > > If there is no answer to this simple question then just admit it> > and> > > please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself.> > >> > >

Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz> > > ------------ --------- --------> > > Consultations and Pages:> > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com>> > > rafal@> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz> > > ------------ --------- --------> > > Consultations and Pages:> > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com>> > > rafal@> > >> > >> > > ahimsavm pisze:> > > >> > > > Om Namah Shivaya,> > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > What Visti and myself are saying is the same.

Visti has very> > > > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are> > reversed,> > > > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we subsitute> > the> > > > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing their> > > > signification, since one pada of dharma remains uninfluenced. So,> > > > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in Full> > > > reversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji recommending the> > change> > > > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th house and> > > > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani and Shukra.> > > > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji> > recommended> > > > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra

specifically. This> > was> > > > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well.> > > > Best wishes> > > > Zoran Radosavljevic> > > > www.siva-edu. info> > > > www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> > > >> > > > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>> > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz> > <starsuponme@ >> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> > > > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar> > > > >> > > > > The

whole disussion is about if we use the other gem based on> > yuti> > > > or> > > > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its also for> > > > yuti, now> > > > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord is with> > > > Shani> > > > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti graha> > Shani> > > > will> > > > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the yuti graha> > > > which is> > > > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign ? How> > can> > > > you> > > > > perscribe 6L gem?> >

> > >> > > > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be done> > ONLY> > > > in> > > > > PARIVARTANA. "> > > > >> > > > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao?> > > > >> > > > > Or I have missed something?> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Rafal Gendarz> > > > > ------------ --------- --------> > > > > Consultations and Pages:> > > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> <http://rohinaa. com > > <http://rohinaa. com>>> > > > > rafal@> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Visti Larsen pisze:> > > > > >> > > > > > ??? ??? ?????> > > > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.> > > > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord? That would> > > > give> > > > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points that Zoki> > is> > > > > > rising here.> > > > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > > > > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>>> > > > > > @: visti@> > > > > >> > > > > > ahimsavm skrev:> > > > > >> > > > > >> Om Namah Shivaya,> > > > > >> Dear Rafal,> > > > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is correct. However,> > this> > > > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in PARIVARTANA. If you> > > > have> > > > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I would never> > > > prescribe> > > > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless

Moon is placed in 8th house.> > In> > > > that> > > > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for health.> > > > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it would block the> > > > Shani> > > > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case Surja should be> > in> > > > good> > > > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another possibility is MOti> > > > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very good for Mangal> > and> > > > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the rise of bad> > > > luck.> > > > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal placement in the> > chart.> > > > > >> Best wishes>

> > > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic> > > > > >> www.siva-edu. info> > > > > >> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com> > > > > >> > > <srijagannat h%40. com>> > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>> > > > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz> > > > <starsuponme@ >> > > > > >> wrote:> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*> > > > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar> > > > > >> >>

> > > > >> > Yes.> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe> > > > Neelam> > > > > >> to> > > > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal?> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > Regards,> > > > > >> > Rafal Gendarz> > > > > >> > ------------ --------- --------> > > > > >> > Consultations and Pages:> > > > > >> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com> <http://rohinaa. com > > <http://rohinaa. com>>> > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com>> > > > <http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com>>>> > > > > >> > rafal@> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze:> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > ??? ??? ?????> > > > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.> > > > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana

done> > > > > >> otherwise> > > > > >> > > then he would not have cancer.> > > > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by> > > > Jupiter in> > > > > >> this> > > > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from> > past> > > > life> > > > > >> and> > > > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu.> > > > > >> > > Still the advise is the same.> > > > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > > > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda.

com <http://srigaruda. com> > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com>>> > > > <http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com> <http://srigaruda. com > > <http://srigaruda. com>>>> > > > > >> > > @: visti@> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev:> > > > > >> > >> > > > >

>> > >> Dear Visti> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful> > > > mail.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected> > with> > > > > >> liver> > > > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him six months time to> > live.> > > > In> > > > > >> his> > > > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a> > > > pokhraj> > > > > >> instead> > > > > >> > >> of diamond?> > > > > >> > >>> > > > >

>> > >> If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be> > > > great..> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977> > > > > >> > >> 12:20 pm> > > > > >> > >> calcutta> > > > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi..> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> -Regards> > > > > >> > >> Rajarshi> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> /*> > > > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva> > Sutra*> > > > > >> > >> */> > > > > >> > >>> > > > >

>> > >>> > > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S> > (trbac /<majastrbacastro@ >/*> > > > > >> wrote:> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@ >> > > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on> > > > > >> divisonal> > > > > >> > >> charts ?> > > > > >> > >> > > <srijagannat h%40. com>> > > > <srijagannat h%40. com>> > >

> > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>> > > > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> WOW!> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a "Marry> > > > > >> Christmas> > > > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance".> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it with us!> > >

> > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Warm Regards,> > > > > >> > >> Maja Strbac> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) > > > > > >> com>/* wrote:> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>> > > > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on> > > > > >> > >> divisonal charts ?> > > > > >> > >> @ .

com> > > > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> ??? ??? ?????> > > > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar.> > > > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I> > > > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what> > > > > >> I> > > > > >> > >> have learned and have to share.> > > > > >> > >> I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with> > > > > >> time> > > > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my website for reference):> > > > > >> > >>> > >

> > >> > >> The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the> > > > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect> > > > > >> the> > > > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when a person may be> > > > > >> making a> > > > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right> > > > > >> one.> > > > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body,> > > > > >> there> > > > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove the protection of the> > > > > >> body,> > > > > >> > >> hence one should advise these wisely.> > > > > >>

> >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is r/atna/ but does not> > > > > >> literally> > > > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel,> > > > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived from the word /ra-/> > > > > >> meaning a> > > > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams)> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically refers to nine types of> > > > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra> > > > > >> (diamond),> > > > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga (topaz), indrani-la> > > > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire),

marakata (emerald), vaidu-> > > > > >> rya> > > > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite). /> > > > > >> For the> > > > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also means nine in vedic> > > > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been translated as Topaz by> > > > > >> most,> > > > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does> > > > > >> state> > > > > >> > >> that different colours of the /pushpara-ga /can be> > > > > >> regarded> > > > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la (sapphire) /or /padmara-ga> > > > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among

the /indrani-la> > > > > >> (Sapphire) /we must> > > > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded> > > > > >> as> > > > > >> > >> giving the effects of /pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence,> > > > > >> whilst> > > > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same group of /indrani-la/ the> > > > > >> > >> colour of them being different also differentiates the> > > > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be> > > > > >> learned> > > > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this regard.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside in

the particle of a> > ratna> > > > > >> which> > > > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has> > no> > > > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is> > for> > > > > >> the> > > > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu.> > Moon,> > > > > >> Mars,> > > > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the Dhatu and among

them Moon> > > > > >> rules over> > > > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the> > > > raw> > > > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons whilst Ra-hu rules over> > the> > > > > >> rare> > > > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna> > ka-> > > > > >> raka> > > > > >> > >> and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and> > Somanatha> > > > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of> > > > > >> gemstones.> > > > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and> > this> > >

> > >> is> > > > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt> > to> > > > > >> judge> > > > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional> > > > chart> > > > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can> > grant> > > > > >> fame,> > > > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones> > > > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known> > > > > >> as /gunatmaka/,> > > > > >> >

>> i.e .the self in the form of /guna/ or attributes.> > Hence to> > > > > >> > >> understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other> > > > > >> gemstones we> > > > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes> > > > > >> and is> > > > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be> > > > explained> > > > > >> > >> further below.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood> > from> > > > > >> Vedic> > > > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers> > > > > >>

represent> > > > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma respectively for the> > index,> > > > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on> > the> > > > > >> index> > > > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing> > ahamkara.> > > > > >> The> > > > > >> > >> following table has been culled out of the same work.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath)> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Ratna> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> >

>>> > > > > >> > >> Finger> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Ruby> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Pearl> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or 4^th from index)> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Coral> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> >

>>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Emerald> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or 4^th from index)> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)> > > > > >> > >>> > > > >

>> > >> Diamond> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or 4^th from index)> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Hessonite> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Middle or little finger

(2^nd or 4^th from index)> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Cats eye> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or 3^rd from index)> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good> > for> > > > > >> the> > > > > >> > >> human race and they have natural (Naisargika)> > > > > >> characteristics> > > > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to> > be> > > > a> > > > > >> > >> mother

would benefit greatly from wearing a pushpara-ga> > > > > >> (topaz)> > > > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having> > > > > >> cancer> > > > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra.> > These> > > > > >> natural> > > > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be applied to all the> > > > > >> gemstones and> > > > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda Purana.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55)> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Graha> > > > > >> >

>>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Ratna> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Translation> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Sun> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Padmara-ga> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Ruby> > > > > >> >

>>> > > > > >> > >> Moon> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Mukta> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Pearl> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Mars> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Vidruma> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>>

> > > > >> > >> Coral> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Mercury> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Marakata> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Emerald> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Jupiter> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga> > > > > >> >

>>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Venus> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Vajra> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Diamond> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Saturn> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> >

>>> > > > > >> > >> Indrani-la> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Rahu> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Gomeda> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Hessonite> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Ketu> > > > > >>

> >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Cats eye> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any> > > > > >> advice and> > > > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered> > from> > > > my> > > > > >> > >> teacher.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth

and> > ninth> > > > > >> house> > > > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best> > gemstones> > > > > >> and> > > > > >> > >> will support the native in their purpose of life. The> > first> > > > > >> lord> > > > > >> > >> protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects> > the> > > > > >> hands> > > > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence> > > > the> > > > > >> > >> native will always select the best path in life if the> > > > > >> gemstone> > > > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord

is the> > most> > > > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the> > > > > >> best> > > > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune,> > and in> > > > > >> such> > > > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Gemstone advised> > > > > >>

> >>> > > > > >> > >> Saturn> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies)> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> RÃ¤hu> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Ketu> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Gold

ring> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Mars> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Pearl> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords> > are> > > > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss> > > > > >> respectively and> > > > > >> > >> should not be worn.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> To both the above there are exceptions which occur on> > > > > >> account of> > > > > >>

> >> Yoga.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes)> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by affecting the four> > ayana or> > > > > >> goals> > > > > >> > >> of the person's life namely dharma, artha, ka-ma and> > moksha> > > > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada> > of a> > > > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs> > > > > >> respectively.> > > > > >> > >> When a graha is in

parivartana yoga with another, then> > the> > > > > >> other> > > > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha.> > > > > >> Therefore,> > > > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord> > the> > > > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on> > > > > >> three of> > > > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana> > > > > >> depends on> > > > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs>

> > > > >> adjacent> > > > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus> > then> > > > > >> Sun> > > > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should> > Sun> > > > be> > > > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give> > the> > > > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy> > > > > >> Navamsha,> > > > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery> > sign> > > > > >> and> > > > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the> > > > > >> effects

of> > > > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and ka-ma-ayana (airy) as> > well,> > > > > >> but> > > > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery).> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then the interchange of> > effects> > > > > >> will> > > > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic> > indications> > > > > >> of> > > > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then> > > > the> > > > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange> > > > > >> results,> > > > > >> >

>> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results> > > > > >> whilst> > > > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the results of anyone.> > Similarly> > > > > >> apply> > > > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more grahas.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and> > Parivartana> > > > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as> > they> > > > > >> only> > > > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a> > > > > >> graha, yet> > > > > >> > >> are still applied when timing events.>

> > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Va-rachakra> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> #> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Graha> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> 1> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Sun> > > > > >> > >>>

> > > > >> > >> 2> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Moon> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> 3> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Mars> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> 4> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Mercury> > > > > >> > >>> > > > >

>> > >> 5> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Jupiter> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> 6> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Venus> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> 7> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Saturn> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>

8> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> RÃ¤hu> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> 9> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Ketu> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or> > twelfth> > > > > >> lords> > > > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those graha are causing> > excessive> > > > > >> > >> problems to the native. This occurs when another

graha> > is> > > > > >> causing> > > > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its> > > > positive> > > > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have> > > > > >> given the> > > > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in> > the> > > > > >> sixth> > > > > >> > >> and RÃ¤hu was placed in the tenth. In that specific> > scenario> > > > > >> the> > > > > >> > >> native was suffering on account of repeated legal> > battles.> > > > > >> The> > > > > >> > >> reason being on account of RÃ¤hu. This is

further> > explained> > > > > >> as:> > > > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10^th ,> > 1^st or> > > > > >> 5^th> > > > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third> > > > > >> graha in> > > > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of> > weekdays> > > > > >> the> > > > > >> > >> third graha from RÃ¤hu is the Sun, hence when RÃ¤hu is in> > the> > > > > >> tenth> > > > > >> > >> house the native will have problems on account of the> > house> > > > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun in their

life.> > Similarly> > > > > >> if> > > > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the> > fifth> > > > > >> house> > > > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be> > > > hampered.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and> > > > > >> this is> > > > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Gunachakra> >

> > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> #> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Graha> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Guna> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> 1> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Sun> > > >

> >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Satva> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> 2> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Moon> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> 3> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Jupiter> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> 4> > > > > >> >

>>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> RÃ¤hu> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> 5> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Mercury> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Rajas> > > > > >> > >>> > >

> > >> > >> 6> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Venus> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> 7> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Ketu> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> 8> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> >

>>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Saturn> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Tamas> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> 9> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Mars> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the> > > > > >> Varachakra.> > > > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or>

> > > > >> unlock> > > > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the> > > > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are> > > > > >> caused> > > > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is> > > > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the> > > > > >> fourth> > > > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of> > > > > >> cancer.> > > > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised> > > > > >> along> > > > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly

Mars can cause nervous> > > > > >> system> > > > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block> > this> > > > > >> issue> > > > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the> > Mrtyunjaya> > > > > >> bijas.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Should a graha already be blocking the native in one> > aspect> > > > > >> of> > > > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th graha) is required. I.e.> > if> > > > > >> for> > > > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the> > native> > > > > >> will> >

> > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong> > > > > >> application> > > > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed> > as> > > > > >> locked> > > > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised.> > Similarly> > > > > >> if Moon> > > > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no ni-cha bhanga then a> > Blue> > > > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from> > the> > > > > >> Moon> > > > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock these negatives.> > > > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more applications of

the> > Gunachakra> > > > > >> in this> > > > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented> > > > with> > > > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to share.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart> > it> > > > is> > > > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein> > graha> > > > > >> lording> > > >

> >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to the ojas in the body> > and> > > > > >> will> > > > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore> > > > not> > > > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this> > is> > > > > >> the> > > > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to> > the> > > > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the> > > > > >> partner> > > > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those gemstones should> > preferably> > > > > >> also> > > > > >> > >> be avoided.

Advising the third lord's gem can increase> > the> > > > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and advising this gemstone> > > > > >> should> > > > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the> > best> > > > > >> and> > > > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice> > > > > >> intelligently.> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight.> > > > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > > > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda. com> > > > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev:> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya||> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > >> > >>> dear visti,> > > > > >> > >>> namaste.> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the> > > > > >> advent of> > > > > >> > >>> Rahu> > > > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent> > > > > >>

answered .. is> > > > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or> > is it> > > > > >> real> > > > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone> > > > > >> exchange !!> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > >> > >>> however , first we need to really understand , that> > > > > >> conjunction> > > > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave like each other> > completely ?> > > > > >> or> > > > > >> > >>> only do> > > > > >> > >>> they give each others effects in the dasha ?> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > >

>> > >>> and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then> > > > > >> what does> > > > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the> > > > > >> same , then> > > > > >> > >>> whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ?> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > >> > >>> humble regards,> > > > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal.> > > > > >> > >>>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Visti Larsen> > > > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote:> > >

> > >> > >>> >> > > > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ?????> > > > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar.> > > > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail> > time,> > > > > >> but> > > > > >> > >>> through his> > > > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was> > > > > >> untouched. It was> > > > > >> > >>> not> > > > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence> > pointing> > > > > >> out> > > > > >> > >>> clearly> > > > > >> > >>> >

that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa> > was> > > > > >> perfect> > > > > >> > >>> advise...> > > > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it!> > How> > > > > >> many can> > > > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once> > > > > >> following a> > > > > >> > >>> > remedial measure?> > > > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> > > > > >> > >>> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> > > > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda. com/ > > <http://srigaruda. com/>> > > > <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda. com/>>> > > > > >> <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda. com/> > > <http://srigaruda. com/ <http://srigaruda. com/>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > @: visti@> > > > > >> > >>>

>> > > > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:> > > > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah shivaya||> > > > > >> > >>> > >> > > > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti,> > > > > >> > >>> > > namaste !> > > > > >> > >>> > >> > > > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail> > > > > >> and also> > > > > >> > >>> being> > > > > >> > >>> > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that> > > > > >> eventually> > > > > >> > >>> came> > > > > >> >

>>> came> > > > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members> > > > and> > > > > >> > >>> associates> > > > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed> > the> > > > > >> > >>> briefcase ,> > > > > >> > >>> in> > > > > >> > >>> > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million .> > > > > >> > >>> > >> > > > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is> > being> > > > > >> > >>> advised to> > > > > >> > >>> worn> > > > >

>> > >>> > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in> > 10th> > > > > >> House ,> > > > > >> > >>> merc> > > > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the> > basic> > > > > >> theory> > > > > >> > >>> behind> > > > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on> > > > > >> your website> > > > > >> > >>> where> > > > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual> > > > > >> exhange of> > > > > >> > >>> houses> > > > > >> >

>>> > > and not simply conj....> > > > > >> > >>> > >> > > > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives results of each others in> > > > > >> Dasas's ... but> > > > > >> > >>> actual> > > > > >> > >>> > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based> > upon> > > > > >> Rasi /> > > > > >> > >>> Dasamasa !> > > > > >> > >>> > >> > > > > >> > >>> > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just> > > > > >> based upon> > > > > >> > >>> rasi and> > > > > >> > >>> > > not even consider

damasa , especially when career> > is> > > > > >> > >>> concerend ?> > > > > >> > >>> > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in> > Narasimha's> > > > > >> case ,> > > > > >> > >>> somehow> > > > > >> > >>> > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald> > > > > >> that he> > > > > >> > >>> should> > > > > >> > >>> have> > > > > >> > >>> > > worn and not the red coral ...> > > > > >> > >>> > >> > > > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun ,> > so> > > >

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December 19, 2008

हरे राम कृष्ण

Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

Now your getting it. See that its not always good to give the conjoined

gemstone as it can bring problems, and we cannot do so blindly.

Also in the example you cited of Moon and Sun joined for Pisces Lagna,

there is a similar dilemma as the Sun in such a combination can

increase enmity and such sixth house problems depending on placement.

Therefore in the example you gave if the two were joined in the sixth,

eighth or twelfth house then wearing a Ruby is a big NONO. Especially

if the person is born on a Monday or Sunday it would horrible for the

health.

Instead if joined in the Lagna or tenth house it would prove to be

excellent and also increase longevity.

If the two are in planetary war then there is no doubt, i.e. don't

cause the war to be lost by a graha lording a trikona by wearing the

other grahas gemstone.

So your right. Yuti is not the rule - by itself as if such a

combination is badly placed it would be devastating to wear such a

gemstone.

Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

----------

@: visti

Rafal Gendarz skrev:

om namo bhagavate

narasimhaya

Dear Rajarishi , Namaskar

Page 345/346 VRA. To ensure winning the battle Sanjyaji perscribes gem

signified by Lagnesh. Here Shukra Lagnadhipati is conjoined Budha, but

still

the choice is on Diamond, not Emerald (Budha is 6L). Based on that we

see that yuti is not the rule, therefore we cant say that Coral was

good for Narasimha Rao

as it gives results of Bhadra yoga as it is opposite to previous

teachings and examples.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

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rajarshi nandy pisze:

Dear Rafal

I have been trying to follow this excahnge of mails and

getting a little confused. You said:

So far I have seen Sanjayji

never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to trikona lords

Do you mean when there is ANY yuti

between trikona lord and any other lord OR only trikona and dusthana

lord?

-Regards

Rajarshi

The

upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra

--- On Thu, 18/12/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>

wrote:

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal

charts ?

Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 6:25 PM

om namo

bhagavate narasimhaya

Dear Chandan, Namaskar

So

far

I have seen Sanjayji never recommend gem based on yuti when it comes to

trikona lords. Its also hard to seen if person is spiritual or not,

after all dharma

is not only connected to spirituality but also to marriage, progeny,

social values etc - big parts of life for materialists.

When we see examples in Nakshatra book then we know how much attention

Sanjayji places towards so called temporal malefics - here Mangal is

definitely temporal malefic

and it will give problems to Bhadra and tenth bhava. If we use only

parivartana for gems then based solely on this principle advising Coral

is quite unfortunate decision.

Arudha will jump to tenth and Mangal will hit it as its dominated by

Budha and Mangal is enemy in naisargika and tatkalika sambandha here.

So its badly placed by lordship, sambandha

and placement from AL. So Coral is worst.

More to this Mangal is 8L in D2 (Kn) giving poverty and sits in 2H in

D3 (Sn).

What special rule I have omitted which conquers all the bad which

Mangal gives here?

OR

we accept yuti principle again..and then Ruby for Sun+Moon for Meena

Lagna..but as I never said Sanjayji did it.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

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com

chandan486 pisze:

||aum namah shivaya||

Dear Rafal , Zoran and Visti,

Namaste.

I have been reading the constant discussions between rafal and you

two and glad that rafal did post PV Narasimha Rao's details.

Based on the artcile Visti wrote yesterday and my personal chart

analysis of PV Narasimha Rao , im going to explain what i seem to be

correct about the advise for a Red Coral.

1.as Visti mentioned , Yuti exchanges 3/4 ayanas , which can be seen

from Navamsa to determine which 3 of 4 have exchanged.

Now in this particular case , as Mangal and Merc. have conjoined ,

Mangal occupies an airy namavsa , so based on the ones adjacent to

it , those ayanas will get exchanged.

This gives us 3 ayanas viz. Capricorn - Artha , Aquarius - Kama and

Pisces - Moksha.

Similarly for Merc. it occupies Gemini , so the ones adjacent to it

get exhanged , viz Tauras - Artha , Gemini - Kaama and Cancer -

Moksha ..

The only Pada / ayana that does not get exchanged due to yuti is

Dharma and since we are prescribing gemstone for a political leader

and not a spiritualist , we can safely ingore this ayana .

So , safely a Red Coral can and should be advised.

Moreover , in the Rasi chart , Mars has Dig bala which Zoran already

mentioned and it also has 7th house argala on GL , with nothing to

obstruct.

Also in Dasamsa, Mangal again has Sukhagrala on GL,which anyways is

more powerful than the virodhargals , so mangal argala prevails.

2. Also , maybe we missed to notice , lagnesha Merc is Varki ..

Recommending a gemstone for a Vakri planet is not a good idea , as it

only increases the power of retrogression , hence coral is best

choice ,both by Rasi and Dasamsa.

I think i made a pretty neat assemement.

Comments Please !!

humble regards,

Chandan S Sabarwal.

, Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme@ ...>

wrote:

>

> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> Dear Zoranji , Namaskar

>

> Please dont make me a fool. When I have asked why Coral then the

answer was:

>

> Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

> Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do

gemstones.

Does

> that clarify?

> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

>

> Now you are stating again that it is only for parivartana.

>

> June 28, 1921

> Time: 12:49:00

> Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT)

> Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00"

>

> In that chart I dont see any parivartana and Mangal is third and

eight

> lord, so the question is the same :

>

> a) either you say its yuti and then for Meena Lagna Moon and Surya

yuti

> we perscribe Ruby

>

> or

>

> b) its only for parivartana and then why Coral for Narasimha Rao?

>

> If there is no answer to this simple question then just admit it

and

> please dont make me a fool that I am repeating myself.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

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> rafal

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> ------------ --------- --------

> Consultations and Pages:

> http://rohinaa. com

> rafal

>

> ahimsavm pisze:

> >

> > Om Namah Shivaya,

> > Dear Rafal,

> > What Visti and myself are saying is the same. Visti has very

> > precisely explained, that with yuti Three pada effects are

reversed,

> > so one pada or leg is remained uninfluenced. So, if we

subsitute

the

> > gem with planet conjoined, you are not fully reversing their

> > signification, since one pada of dharma remains uninfluenced.

So,

> > parivartana is stronger than yuti, for ekapada. Only in Full

> > reversal (Parivartana) , I have seen Sanjayji recommending

the

change

> > of a stone. A person was Makara Lagna with Shani in 5th house

and

> > Shukra in 2nd house, so there was parivartana of Shani and

Shukra.

> > Since Shukra was badly hit in the second house, Sanjayji

recommended

> > Neelam for Shani to give the effects of Shukra specifically.

This

was

> > further very wise choice since Shani rules lagna as well.

> > Best wishes

> > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > www.siva-edu.

info

> > www.ahimsazr1.

wordpress. com

> >

> > <srijagannat

h%40. com>, Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme@ >

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> > > Dear Guruji, Zoranji, Namaskar

> > >

> > > The whole disussion is about if we use the other gem

based on

yuti

> > or

> > > parivarta. First it was parivartana then you say its

also for

> > yuti, now

> > > Zoran says its for parivartana only again. If ninth lord

is with

> > Shani

> > > its durbhagya but in the period of 9L as then the yuti

graha

Shani

> > will

> > > work, based on that using Neelam will strenghten the

yuti graha

> > which is

> > > 9L so getting out of durbhagya.

> > >

> > > How Pearl can be good for Mangal if its lord neecha sign

? How

can

> > you

> > > perscribe 6L gem?

> > >

> > > Zoran said: " However, this substitution of gems can be

done

ONLY

> > in

> > > PARIVARTANA. "

> > >

> > > How then Coral could be good for Narasimha Rao?

> > >

> > > Or I have missed something?

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > ------------ --------- --------

> > > Consultations and Pages:

> > > http://rohinaa.

com <http://rohinaa.

com>

> > > rafal@

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen pisze:

> > > >

> > > > ??? ??? ?????

> > > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

> > > > How can you give Nilam if Shani is yuti ninth lord?

That would

> > give

> > > > durbhagya wouldn't it? Thats one of the main points

that Zoki

is

> > > > rising here.

> > > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

> > > > www: http://srigaruda.

com <http://srigaruda.

com>

> > > > @: visti@

> > > >

> > > > ahimsavm skrev:

> > > >

> > > >> Om Namah Shivaya,

> > > >> Dear Rafal,

> > > >> What Visti has written about Sambhanda is

correct. However,

this

> > > >> substitution of gems can be done ONLY in

PARIVARTANA. If you

> > have

> > > >> let us say Mangal and Shani yuti for Meena, I

would never

> > prescribe

> > > >> Neelam or Blue Sapphire unless Moon is placed

in 8th house.

In

> > that

> > > >> case I would prefer Light Blue Sapphire for

health.

> > > >> The better way out is to take Ruby because it

would block the

> > Shani

> > > >> and improve Mangal. However, in such a case

Surja should be

in

> > good

> > > >> realtionship with Lagnesha Guru. Another

possibility is MOti

> > > >> (Pearl), which according to Veepreta is very

good for Mangal

and

> > > >> also Good for Shani. Otherwise you may risk the

rise of bad

> > luck.

> > > >> Actually, it will depend on Shani Mangal

placement in the

chart.

> > > >> Best wishes

> > > >> Zoran Radosavljevic

> > > >> www.siva-edu. info

> > > >> www.ahimsazr1. wordpress. com

> > > >>

> > <srijagannat

h%40. com>

> > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>, Rafal

Gendarz

> > <starsuponme@ >

> > > >> wrote:

> > > >> >

> > > >> > *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*

> > > >> > Dear Guruji , Namaskar

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Yes.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I

should perscribe

> > Neelam

> > > >> to

> > > >> > give effect of bhagyesh Mangal?

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Regards,

> > > >> > Rafal Gendarz

> > > >> > ------------ --------- --------

> > > >> > Consultations and Pages:

> > > >> > http://rohinaa.

com <http://rohinaa.

com>

<http://rohinaa. com

> > <http://rohinaa.

com>>

> > > >> > rafal@

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Visti Larsen pisze:

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > ??? ??? ?????

> > > >> > > Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.

> > > >> > > The final effect is the same, as had

the parivartana done

> > > >> otherwise

> > > >> > > then he would not have cancer.

> > > >> > > Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was

solely caused by

> > Jupiter in

> > > >> this

> > > >> > > case as we see Rahu involved in a

curse of mother from

past

> > life

> > > >> and

> > > >> > > involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu.

> > > >> > > Still the advise is the same.

> > > >> > > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > >> > > ------------ --------- ---------

--------- ----

> > > >> > > www: http://srigaruda.

com <http://srigaruda.

com>

> > <http://srigaruda.

com <http://srigaruda.

com>>

> > > >> > > @: visti@

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > rajarshi nandy skrev:

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > >> Dear Visti

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Thank you for sharing that

information. Really wonderful

> > mail.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> I was seeing a chart of a person

who has been detected

with

> > > >> liver

> > > >> > >> cancer and doctors have given him

six months time to

live.

> > In

> > > >> his

> > > >> > >> chart jup is in exchance with

venus. Should he wear a

> > pokhraj

> > > >> instead

> > > >> > >> of diamond?

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> If you could kindly take a look

and advice it woiuld be

> > great..

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 23rd march 1977

> > > >> > >> 12:20 pm

> > > >> > >> calcutta

> > > >> > >> mithun lagna, mesh rasi..

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> -Regards

> > > >> > >> Rajarshi

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> /*

> > > >> > >> *The upsurge (of consciousness)

is Bhairava - Shiva

Sutra*

> > > >> > >> */

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 16/12/08, Maja S

(trbac /<majastrbacastro@ >/*

> > > >> wrote:

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Maja S(trbac

<majastrbacastro@ >

> > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru]

Re: Choosing gemstone on

> > > >> divisonal

> > > >> > >> charts ?

> > > >> > >>

> > <srijagannat

h%40. com>

> > > >> <srijagannat h%40. com>

> > > >> > >> Tuesday, 16 December, 2008,

8:47 PM

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Om Gurave Namah

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Dear Visti Ji, Namaste

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> WOW!

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> As far as I am concerned, your

email bellow is a "Marry

> > > >> Christmas

> > > >> > >> and a Happy New Year in advance".

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Thank you so much for shearing it

with us!

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Warm Regards,

> > > >> > >> Maja Strbac

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Hari Om Tat Sat

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Visti

Larsen /<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

> > > >> com>/* wrote:

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

com>

> > > >> > >> Re: [Om Krishna Guru]

Re: Choosing gemstone on

> > > >> > >> divisonal charts ?

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Tuesday, December 16, 2008,

7:09 AM

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> ??? ??? ?????

> > > >> > >> Dear Chandan, Namaskar.

> > > >> > >> Excuse me for not answering in

full in my last mail, I

> > > >> > >> realise no one learns if no one

shares, so here is what

> > > >> I

> > > >> > >> have learned and have to share.

> > > >> > >> I have gathered the following

rules reg. gemstones with

> > > >> time

> > > >> > >> (this will be republished on my

website for reference):

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> The prescription of metals or

gemstones belongs to the

> > > >> > >> concept of Tantra, i.e.

Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect

> > > >> the

> > > >> > >> body. This is best to advise when

a person may be

> > > >> making a

> > > >> > >> wrong decision and you want them

to stick to the right

> > > >> one.

> > > >> > >> Just as one can advise gemstones

to protect the body,

> > > >> there

> > > >> > >> are gemstones which can remove

the protection of the

> > > >> body,

> > > >> > >> hence one should advise these

wisely.

> > > >> > >> Sanskrit word for gemstone is

r/atna/ but does not

> > > >> literally

> > > >> > >> mean gemstone, but can also refer

to treasure, jewel,

> > > >> > >> precious stone, and is derived

from the word /ra-/

> > > >> meaning a

> > > >> > >> gift, goods, wealth or riches.

(Monier-Williams)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> The word /ratna/ specifically

refers to nine types of

> > > >> > >> treasure or jewels namely mukta

(pearl), vajra

> > > >> (diamond),

> > > >> > >> /padmara-ga/ (ruby), /pushpara-ga

(topaz), indrani-la

> > > >> > >> (clear/stainless sapphire),

marakata (emerald), vaidu-

> > > >> rya

> > > >> > >> (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and

gomeda (hessonite). /

> > > >> For the

> > > >> > >> same reason the word /ratna/ also

means nine in vedic

> > > >> > >> numerology. Pushpara-ga has been

translated as Topaz by

> > > >> most,

> > > >> > >> however the Garuda Purana (Suta,

2007, p. 174) does

> > > >> state

> > > >> > >> that different colours of the

/pushpara-ga /can be

> > > >> regarded

> > > >> > >> as equal to the /indrani-la

(sapphire) /or /padmara-ga

> > > >> > >> (ruby)/. Therefore, among the

/indrani-la

> > > >> (Sapphire) /we must

> > > >> > >> infer that certain shades (i.e.

yellow) can be regarded

> > > >> as

> > > >> > >> giving the effects of

/pushpara-ga /(topaz). Hence,

> > > >> whilst

> > > >> > >> all sapphires fall in the same

group of /indrani-la/ the

> > > >> > >> colour of them being different

also differentiates the

> > > >> > >> effects of wearing them greatly.

Details should be

> > > >> learned

> > > >> > >> from the Garuda Purana in this

regard.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> The Deva are supposed to reside

in the particle of a

ratna

> > > >> which

> > > >> > >> is clear, bright, without cracks

or lines in it and has

no

> > > >> > >> unusual shades in it. Hence, the

wearing of a ratna is

for

> > > >> the

> > > >> > >> sake of keeping a Deva next to

you and protecting you.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ratnaka-raka

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ratna comes under the various

metals known as Dhatu.

Moon,

> > > >> Mars,

> > > >> > >> Saturn and Ra-hu signify the

Dhatu and among them Moon

> > > >> rules over

> > > >> > >> Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the

earth, Saturn over the

> > raw

> > > >> > >> minerals such as oil and irons

whilst Ra-hu rules over

the

> > > >> rare

> > > >> > >> metals such as Gold and platinum.

Hence, Moon is Ratna

ka-

> > > >> raka

> > > >> > >> and divisional charts as

Somanatha Drekkana and

Somanatha

> > > >> > >> Navamsha are the most important

to judge the effect of

> > > >> gemstones.

> > > >> > >> As specifically the Drekkana

refers to ones karma and

this

> > > >> is

> > > >> > >> signified by ones hands, the

Somanatha drekkana is apt

to

> > > >> judge

> > > >> > >> the effects of gemstones.

Specifically this divisional

> > chart

> > > >> > >> shows ones ojas and how one uses

it. Strong ojas can

grant

> > > >> fame,

> > > >> > >> and hence this divisional chart

can be used to see ones

> > > >> > >> popularity as well as sexuality

where ones ojas is used.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> The Moon signifying all gemstones

is also known

> > > >> as /gunatmaka/,

> > > >> > >> i.e .the self in the form of

/guna/ or attributes.

Hence to

> > > >> > >> understand the effects of a

gemstone vis-a-vis other

> > > >> gemstones we

> > > >> > >> use the gunachakra. This is also

used for other purposes

> > > >> and is

> > > >> > >> an integral part of Vedic

numerology. This will be

> > explained

> > > >> > >> further below.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Which finger to wear the gemstone

on can be understood

from

> > > >> Vedic

> > > >> > >> Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay

Rath. The four fingers

> > > >> represent

> > > >> > >> moksha, artha, dharma and ka-ma

respectively for the

index,

> > > >> > >> middle, ring and little fingers.

No gem is advised on

the

> > > >> index

> > > >> > >> finger as it risks blocking

moksha and increasing

ahamkara.

> > > >> The

> > > >> > >> following table has been culled

out of the same work.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ratna

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Finger

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ruby

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Pearl

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ring or Little finger (3^rd or

4^th from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Coral

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or

3^rd from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Emerald

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Middle or little fingers (2^nd or

4^th from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Diamond

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ring (3^rd from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or

4^th from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Hessonite

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Middle or little finger (2^nd or

4^th from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Cats eye

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Middle or ring finger (2^nd or

3^rd from index)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Garuda Purana states that

gemstones can do great good

for

> > > >> the

> > > >> > >> human race and they have natural

(Naisargika)

> > > >> characteristics

> > > >> > >> which will benefit everyone.

Example: a lady wishing to

be

> > a

> > > >> > >> mother would benefit greatly from

wearing a pushpara-ga

> > > >> (topaz)

> > > >> > >> or pokhraj (yellow sapphire).

Similarly a person having

> > > >> cancer

> > > >> > >> should wear a diamond and recite

mrtyunjaya mantra.

These

> > > >> natural

> > > >> > >> indications of gemstones can be

applied to all the

> > > >> gemstones and

> > > >> > >> the effects are given in Garuda

Purana.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Table 3: Ratna and Graha

(Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Graha

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ratna

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Translation

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Sun

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Padmara-ga

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ruby

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Moon

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mukta

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Pearl

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mars

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Vidruma

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Coral

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mercury

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Marakata

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Emerald

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Jupiter

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Pushpara-ga

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Yellow Topaz

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Venus

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Vajra

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Diamond

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Saturn

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Indrani-la

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Blue Sapphire

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Rahu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Gomeda

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Hessonite

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ketu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Vaidu-rya

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Cats eye

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Tradition is everything when it

comes to applying any

> > > >> advice and

> > > >> > >> hereunder is some of the advice

that I have gathered

from

> > my

> > > >> > >> teacher.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ratna should be advised based on

the first, fifth and

ninth

> > > >> house

> > > >> > >> lords in the Rashi (D1) chart.

These are the best

gemstones

> > > >> and

> > > >> > >> will support the native in their

purpose of life. The

first

> > > >> lord

> > > >> > >> protects the head and

intelligence, the fifth protects

the

> > > >> hands

> > > >> > >> and torso, whilst the ninth

protects the legs, and hence

> > the

> > > >> > >> native will always select the

best path in life if the

> > > >> gemstone

> > > >> > >> of the ninth lord is worn. Thus

the ninth lord is the

most

> > > >> > >> auspicious gemstone. This can

also be used to advise the

> > > >> best

> > > >> > >> gemstone for disease in

particular parts of the body.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Malefics placed in the ninth

house cause misfortune,

and in

> > > >> such

> > > >> > >> cases reversal gems are advised.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Graha in 9^th

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Gemstone advised

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Saturn

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ruby (pink ruby for ladies)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Rähu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ketu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Gold ring

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mars

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Pearl

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or

twelfth house lords

are

> > > >> > >> inauspicious and cause strife,

disease and loss

> > > >> respectively and

> > > >> > >> should not be worn.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> To both the above there are

exceptions which occur on

> > > >> account of

> > > >> > >> Yoga.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Yoga and Sambandha (reference:

Atri Classes)

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> The graha give their effects by

affecting the four

ayana or

> > > >> goals

> > > >> > >> of the person's life namely

dharma, artha, ka-ma and

moksha

> > > >> > >> symbolised by the first, second,

third or fourth pada

of a

> > > >> > >> nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy

and watery signs

> > > >> respectively.

> > > >> > >> When a graha is in parivartana

yoga with another, then

the

> > > >> other

> > > >> > >> graha will affect all four ayana

of the former graha.

> > > >> Therefore,

> > > >> > >> if the ninth lord is in

parivartana with the sixth lord

the

> > > >> > >> gemstone of the sixth lord should

be advised.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Similarly when a graha is yuti

another graha it takes on

> > > >> three of

> > > >> > >> the four ayanas of the other

graha. Which three ayana

> > > >> depends on

> > > >> > >> i) the particular grahas Navamsha

sign ii) the two signs

> > > >> adjacent

> > > >> > >> that particular sign. Example: If

Sun is joined Venus

then

> > > >> Sun

> > > >> > >> will give the effects of Venus.

In such a case should

Sun

> > be

> > > >> > >> placed in the Navamsha of

Capricorn then it would give

the

> > > >> > >> effects of Venus' Artha-ayana due

to being in an earthy

> > > >> Navamsha,

> > > >> > >> and further as the Navamsha

before is that of a fiery

sign

> > > >> and

> > > >> > >> that after being an airy sign,

the Sun would give the

> > > >> effects of

> > > >> > >> Venus' dharma-ayana (fiery) and

ka-ma-ayana (airy) as

well,

> > > >> but

> > > >> > >> not the moksha-ayana (watery).

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> If three or more graha join then

the interchange of

effects

> > > >> will

> > > >> > >> be decided based on the natural

benefic/malefic

indications

> > > >> of

> > > >> > >> the graha, viz. if Jupiter,

Saturn and Mercury join then

> > the

> > > >> > >> highest malefic and highest

benefic will interchange

> > > >> results,

> > > >> > >> thus causing Saturn and Jupiter

to interchange results

> > > >> whilst

> > > >> > >> Mercury will give not give the

results of anyone.

Similarly

> > > >> apply

> > > >> > >> this to conjunction of more

grahas.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> The two remaining Sambandha, viz.

Samdristi and

Parivartana

> > > >> > >> dristi are not taken into account

for this purpose as

they

> > > >> only

> > > >> > >> affect two or one ayana among the

full four ayana of a

> > > >> graha, yet

> > > >> > >> are still applied when timing

events.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Va-rachakra

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Table 4: Varachakra

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> #

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Graha

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 1

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Sun

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 2

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Moon

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 3

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mars

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 4

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mercury

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 5

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Jupiter

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 6

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Venus

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 7

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Saturn

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 8

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Rähu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 9

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ketu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> In some cases the gemstones of

the sixth, eighth or

twelfth

> > > >> lords

> > > >> > >> needs to be given to as those

graha are causing

excessive

> > > >> > >> problems to the native. This

occurs when another graha

is

> > > >> causing

> > > >> > >> an eclipse on that graha and thus

denying it of its

> > positive

> > > >> > >> effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath

was recalled to have

> > > >> given the

> > > >> > >> advice of wearing Ruby to a

Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in

the

> > > >> sixth

> > > >> > >> and Rähu was placed in the tenth.

In that specific

scenario

> > > >> the

> > > >> > >> native was suffering on account

of repeated legal

battles.

> > > >> The

> > > >> > >> reason being on account of Rähu.

This is further

explained

> > > >> as:

> > > >> > >> when a graha occupies the

Simhasana bhavas (10^th ,

1^st or

> > > >> 5^th

> > > >> > >> in that order) that graha causes

an eclipse on the third

> > > >> graha in

> > > >> > >> the order of the Varachakra. Viz.

in the order of

weekdays

> > > >> the

> > > >> > >> third graha from Rähu is the Sun,

hence when Rähu is in

the

> > > >> tenth

> > > >> > >> house the native will have

problems on account of the

house

> > > >> > >> placement and lordship of the Sun

in their life.

Similarly

> > > >> if

> > > >> > >> among the Simhasana Bhava only

Mars is placed in the

fifth

> > > >> house

> > > >> > >> then the placement and lordship

of Jupiter will be

> > hampered.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> The Varachakra has many uses in

matters of Jyotish, and

> > > >> this is

> > > >> > >> the logic behind many principles

in the Brighu Sutras.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Gunachakra

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Table 1: Gunachakra

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> #

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Graha

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Guna

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 1

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Sun

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Satva

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 2

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Moon

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 3

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Jupiter

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 4

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Rähu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 5

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mercury

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Rajas

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 6

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Venus

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 7

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Ketu

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 8

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Saturn

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Tamas

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> 9

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Mars

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Gunachakra is applied somewhat

differently than the

> > > >> Varachakra.

> > > >> > >> If a Graha is inauspicious then

we can choose to lock or

> > > >> unlock

> > > >> > >> its indications using the fourth

or seventh graha in the

> > > >> > >> gunachakra respectively. Example:

cancer and tumours are

> > > >> caused

> > > >> > >> by a malignant growth of

cancer-cells in the body and is

> > > >> > >> signified by an afflicted

Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the

> > > >> fourth

> > > >> > >> graha from Jupiter is Venus who

can block the spread of

> > > >> cancer.

> > > >> > >> Thus to remedy such a disease

wearing diamond is advised

> > > >> along

> > > >> > >> with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly

Mars can cause nervous

> > > >> system

> > > >> > >> issues such as Parkinsons and the

likes, and to block

this

> > > >> issue

> > > >> > >> a gemstone of Jupiter is advised

along with the

Mrtyunjaya

> > > >> bijas.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Should a graha already be

blocking the native in one

aspect

> > > >> of

> > > >> > >> life, then the unlocker (7^th

graha) is required. I.e.

if

> > > >> for

> > > >> > >> Taurus lagna the lord Venus is

placed in Libra, the

native

> > > >> will

> > > >> > >> be bothered by constant disease

on account of wrong

> > > >> application

> > > >> > >> of intelligence. Therefore the

intellect can be deemed

as

> > > >> locked

> > > >> > >> and wearing a Yellow

Topaz/Sapphire is advised.

Similarly

> > > >> if Moon

> > > >> > >> is very badly placed and has no

ni-cha bhanga then a

Blue

> > > >> > >> Sapphire is advised as Saturn is

the seventh graha from

the

> > > >> Moon

> > > >> > >> in weekday order and can unlock

these negatives.

> > > >> > >> There are undoubtedly more

applications of the

Gunachakra

> > > >> in this

> > > >> > >> regard, reg. gemstones, yet until

I have been presented

> > with

> > > >> > >> them, this is what I have to

share.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Somanatha Drekkana

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Having ascertained the gemstone

as per the Rashi chart

it

> > is

> > > >> > >> worthwhile to check the

Somana-tha Drekkana. Herein

graha

> > > >> lording

> > > >> > >> the second house is a ma-raka to

the ojas in the body

and

> > > >> will

> > > >> > >> curtail health and sexuality.

This gemstone is therefore

> > not

> > > >> > >> advised, and neither is the lord

of the twelfth as this

is

> > > >> the

> > > >> > >> sixth lord from the seventh house

causing celibacy to

the

> > > >> > >> partner. Similarly the sixth and

eighth lords affect the

> > > >> partner

> > > >> > >> in a similar fashion and those

gemstones should

preferably

> > > >> also

> > > >> > >> be avoided. Advising the third

lord's gem can increase

the

> > > >> > >> person's libido significantly and

advising this gemstone

> > > >> should

> > > >> > >> be done thoughtfully. The gem of

the lagna lord is the

best

> > > >> and

> > > >> > >> ensures good health and fame.

Apply this advice

> > > >> intelligently.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> Hope this helps to share insight.

> > > >> > >> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen

> > > >> > >> ------------ --------- ---------

--------- ----

> > > >> > >> www: http://srigaruda.

com

> > > >> > >> @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> chandan486 skrev:

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >>> ||aum namah shivaya||

> > > >> > >>>

> > > >> > >>> dear visti,

> > > >> > >>> namaste.

> > > >> > >>>

> > > >> > >>> Well , the point that he

landed into troubles with the

> > > >> advent of

> > > >> > >>> Rahu

> > > >> > >>> Dasa , makes more sense now ,

but still you havent

> > > >> answered .. is

> > > >> > >>> mere conj enough to wear each

other's gemstones ? or

is it

> > > >> real

> > > >> > >>> parivartana that fulfils the

condition for gemtsone

> > > >> exchange !!

> > > >> > >>>

> > > >> > >>> however , first we need to

really understand , that

> > > >> conjunction

> > > >> > >>> actually makes planets behave

like each other

completely ?

> > > >> or

> > > >> > >>> only do

> > > >> > >>> they give each others effects

in the dasha ?

> > > >> > >>>

> > > >> > >>> and if conj makes planets

behave like each other ? then

> > > >> what does

> > > >> > >>> parivartana do ? does it also

do the same ? if not the

> > > >> same , then

> > > >> > >>> whats different abt a

parivartana then a conj ?

> > > >> > >>>

> > > >> > >>> humble regards,

> > > >> > >>> Chandan S sabarwal.

> > > >> > >>>

> > > >> > >>> @

. com

> > > >> > >>> <srijagannat h%40.

com>, Visti

Larsen

> > > >> > >>> <visti@> wrote:

> > > >> > >>> >

> > > >> > >>> > ??? ??? ?????

> > > >> > >>> > Dear Chandan and Swee,

Namaskar.

> > > >> > >>> > PV Narasimha Rao did see

the legal issues and jail

time,

> > > >> but

> > > >> > >>> through his

> > > >> > >>> > third and eighth lord

Maha Dasa of Mars he was

> > > >> untouched. It was

> > > >> > >>> not

> > > >> > >>> > until Rahu Mahadasa that

he saw problems, hence

pointing

> > > >> out

> > > >> > >>> clearly

> > > >> > >>> > that the wearing of the

Coral during Mars mahadasa

was

> > > >> perfect

> > > >> > >>> advise...

> > > >> > >>> > Afterall he became Prime

Minister after wearing it!

How

> > > >> many can

> > > >> > >>> > astrologers can boast of

a client attaining that once

> > > >> following a

> > > >> > >>> > remedial measure?

> > > >> > >>> > Yours sincerely, Visti

Larsen

> > > >> > >>> > ------------ ---------

--------- --------- ----

> > > >> > >>> > www: http://srigaruda. com <http://srigaruda.

com/

> > <http://srigaruda.

com/>

> > > >> <http://srigaruda.

com/ <http://srigaruda.

com/>>>

> > > >> > >>> > @: visti@

> > > >> > >>> >

> > > >> > >>> > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:

> > > >> > >>> > > ||aum namah

shivaya||

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > dear swee and visti,

> > > >> > >>> > > namaste !

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > swee - you are

right abt PV Narasimha going to jail

> > > >> and also

> > > >> > >>> being

> > > >> > >>> > > held up in

litigation (6th house effects) , that

> > > >> eventually

> > > >> > >>> came

> > > >> > >>> > > upon unto him ,

after some of his own party members

> > and

> > > >> > >>> associates

> > > >> > >>> > > (mercury), accused

him of bribery and even showed

the

> > > >> > >>> briefcase ,

> > > >> > >>> in

> > > >> > >>> > > which he was

actually deliveered INR 10 million .

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > Visti - when you

mentioned , that a red coral is

being

> > > >> > >>> advised to

> > > >> > >>> worn

> > > >> > >>> > > simply based upon

the conj of Mars and Mercury in

10th

> > > >> House ,

> > > >> > >>> merc

> > > >> > >>> > > being lagnesha , i

cannt somehow comprehend the

basic

> > > >> theory

> > > >> > >>> behind

> > > >> > >>> > > this ... and i

still remember reading somehwere on

> > > >> your website

> > > >> > >>> where

> > > >> > >>> > > you mentioned ,

only complete parivartana is actual

> > > >> exhange of

> > > >> > >>> houses

> > > >> > >>> > > and not simply

conj....

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > conj simply gives

results of each others in

> > > >> Dasas's ... but

> > > >> > >>> actual

> > > >> > >>> > > potency and

maleficience / benificience is based

upon

> > > >> Rasi /

> > > >> > >>> Dasamasa !

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > how could some one

possibly advise a gemstone just

> > > >> based upon

> > > >> > >>> rasi and

> > > >> > >>> > > not even consider

damasa , especially when career

is

> > > >> > >>> concerend ?

> > > >> > >>> > > moreover , that

Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in

Narasimha's

> > > >> case ,

> > > >> > >>> somehow

> > > >> > >>> > > makes me believe ,

it should have been the Emerald

> > > >> that he

> > > >> > >>> should

> > > >> > >>> have

> > > >> > >>> > > worn and not the

red coral ...

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > also , mercury

forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun ,

so

> > > >> once again

> > > >> > >>> emerald.

> > > >> > >>> > > i had always wanted

to pick up this thing with

out ,

> > > >> glad swee

> > > >> > >>> bought

> > > >> > >>> > > it up !!

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> > > humbly yours,

> > > >> > >>> > > chandan s sabarwal.

> > > >> > >>> > >

> > > >> > >>> >

> > > >> > >>>

> > > >> > >>

> > > >> > >> ------------ --------- ---------

--------- --------- --------

--

> > > >> ------------

> > > >> > >> Add more friends to your

messenger and enjoy! Invite

them

> > > >> now.

> > > >> > >>

> > > >>

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