lagnesh in 8th or 12th rafal ji

July 26, 2007

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Supriti,

I dont know what to

comment here. Seventh lord with ninth lord

is Shiva Yoga which broaden knowledge, its blessing. If this is in

sixth bhava then this will be used for research (other kind than eight

bhava) and demands hard work to made it visible (9H from 10H). Buddha

with Malefic in sixth gives argumentation and often court cases.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

supriti108 napisał(a):

|OM GURAVE NAMAH|

Dear Rafal,

My comments below.

Thank you for helping me understand this.

Regards

Supriti

sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...>

wrote:

>

> *hraum namah adityaya*

>

> Dear Supriti,

>

> So dasa of planet in sixth bhava is bad, it means seperation and

> conflicts.

[sM] How does this work with the parivartana. Ma is 2nd and 9th

lord in conjunction with 7th lord Me which is in exchange with 6th lord

Sun.

Narayana Dasa shows what the world want to give You and drsti

> on seventh bhava shows that relationship, buisness and travel will

be

> highlighted during that time.

[sM] OK, so Visti ji's words regarding transformation of rajasic

to satwic wrt marriage/alliance work with this.

See which of Jupiter or Mo/Ve are in

> Kendra/Kona to determine which Dasa will work better.

[sM] None of the planets are in Kendra/Kona, so I am confused.

Mo is in the 2nd house and Ju, Ve are in the 8th house. Ve and Mo are

in Kendra in D9 though.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

>

> supriti108 napisa?(a):

> >

> > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > Dear Rafal,

> >

> > Thank you for your response. I am still not clear on one

concept. I

> > would really appreciate it if you could clarify it for me.

> >

> > I am adding my details for this question. I have a few

parivartanas

> > in my chart. I am particularly refering to the exchange of

6th and

> > 7th lord. 7th house is my HL.

> >

> > Visti ji has said and I quote: "Here the parivartana

> > being between a good and an evil house must cause a good

situation

> > (marriage) to turn sour (enmity). Later this will reverse

again where

> > a bitter situation (enmity) becomes the cause of a great

friendship.

> > Your inference about your Näräyaëa daçä is very correct."

> >

> > My question, although I am coming up on Pi Narayana Dasa

(aspecting

> > 7th house), I am also going through Ma vimsottari dasa

(placed in 6th

> > house). How do I know which one will show its effects.

> >

> > My birth details:

> > September 18, 1970

> > Time: 17:48:30

> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > Place: 88 E 22' 00", 22 N 34' 00"

> > Kolkata, India

> >

> > Thanks

> > Supriti

> >

> > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%

40. com>,

> > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > >

> > > Dear Supriti,

> > >

> > > We can use all dasas while timing activation of those

kind of

> > Yogas.

> > > Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when the dasa of

planet

> > posited

> > > in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This is

opposite for bad

> > bhava

> > > (dusthana/3H) .Sookshma Parivartana should be seen

especially from

> > > Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana refers to

time of

> > > particular activities in life.

> > >

> > > Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is independent and

this 'touch'

> > the

> > > native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL int that

order).

> > >

> > > Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and

this should be

> > > especially seen when looking at Dasas for predicting

events.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > email: rafal@

> > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > >

> > > supriti108 napisa?(a):

> > > >

> > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > >

> > > > How do we time the transformation due to

parivartana. Visti ji

> > > > mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there any other

methods.

> > > >

> > > > Thank you.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Supriti

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%

> > 40. com>,

> > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rafalji,

> > > > > What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and

the 12th

> > > > > lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty.

How to

> > > > > offset this lagna by remedial measures. The

problem

> > > > > becomes compounded because the lagna lord is

Venus

> > > > > with Taurus ascendant.

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Manoj

> > > > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement,

its rather

> > > > > > Purna-Yoga which

> > > > > > cause reversal of fortune and

transformation (if

> > > > > > L,LL, AL are involved).

> > > > > > One good Devi Mantra will be enough for

the native.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes

abroad (or

> > > > > > rather should go).

> > > > > > Sixth from it will be Lagna -

birthplace/culture.

> > > > > > These kind of people

> > > > > > doesnt like roots, but are very good at

fighting (6

> > > > > > to Lagna).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanx so much again for ur response

and further

> > > > > > elaboration, however

> > > > > > > i wud like to clarify that i never

meant to put a

> > > > > > logic for Ma/coral

> > > > > > > or any other logic - my question is

that by

> > > > > > exchnage if Ra is now in

> > > > > > > 9h, it will be considered to be in

marana-karaka

> > > > > > sthana - and for Ra

> > > > > > > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be

given - hence

> > > > > > was the question

> > > > > > > that Ju is badhaka in this case -

shd we give the

> > > > > > stone or avoid it.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I wud anticipate a no in answer,

since i was using

> > > > > > this pg as the ref:

> > > > > > > http://varahamihira .blogspot.

com/2004/

> > > > > > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish-

> > > > > > > i.html

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/

10/gemstones- in-

> > jyotish-

> > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/

10/gemstones-

> > in-jyotish-

> > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones-

in-jyotish->>

> > > > i.html>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh)

also goes by

> > > > > > what pg279 point 3) in

> > > > > > > VRA says.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So probably Guru Mantra wud be

better?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > and we wud also look at nakshatra

dispositing Sa

> > > > > > to arrive at the

> > > > > > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa)

for this

> > > > > > chart:

> > > > > > > http:// .org/sjc_

delhi/pdfs/

> > > > > > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part-

> > > > > > > 1.pdf

> > > > > >

> > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/

SJC-Atri- Class-2-

> > Part-

> > > > 1.pdf

> > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/

SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part-

> > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri-

Class-2-Part->

> > 1.pdf>>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by

exchange if Ra

> > > > > > is also in ninth,

> > > > > > > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe

regardless of the

> > > > > > latter factor?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can

be given - but

> > > > > > wud not apply here

> > > > > > > since it is inimical to Me?

> > > > > > > Considering Ma in 9h - any further

mantra

> > > > > > recommended or do we go

> > > > > > > only for the lord of 9h for mantra?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration

on:

> > > > > > > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from

Lagnesh wrt

> > > > > > this

> > > > > > > chart. "while sixth and eleventh

FROM LAGNESH are

> > > > > > very bad and

> > > > > > > shows what one sees as RIPU" - hence

my concern

> > > > > > over Lagna being 6th

> > > > > > > from lagnesh.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanx again

> > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > > > <sohamsa% 40.

com>,

> > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@

....> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like

that: if Mars would

> > > > > > be in seventh bhava

> > > > > > > we

> > > > > > > > will perscribe Coral and

everything will be

> > > > > > nice..No its not like

> > > > > > > that.

> > > > > > > > Please read VRA section about

Gem perscription.

> > > > > > Yes, Ucchista

> > > > > > > Ganapati

> > > > > > > > worship is neccesary.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2. I would rather advise Devi

worship (Sani in

> > > > > > ninth) with Kamala

> > > > > > > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated)

.. This will allow

> > > > > > to marry without

> > > > > > > delay.

> > > > > > > > Then after that Narayana Mantra

will be

> > > > > > important to sustain

> > > > > > > marriage.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain

from

> > > > > > inheritance.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > He will be quite spiritual

person with bhakti,

> > > > > > interest in medicine

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > good knowledge, but can go

easily into fight and

> > > > > > will be strong

> > > > > > > warrior

> > > > > > > > and he can have buisness with

printing books or

> > > > > > working with

> > > > > > > publishing.

> > > > > > > > He can also gain from occult

and will be know as

> > > > > > sensitive and

> > > > > > > dynamic

> > > > > > > > person.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur

explaination, however pls

> > > > > > cud you explain

> > > > > > > what u

> > > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha

re. 6th and 11th

> > > > > > from Lagnesh wrt the

> > > > > > > > > chart. "while sixth and

eleventh FROM LAGNESH

> > > > > > are very bad and

> > > > > > > > > > > shows > >

> what one sees as RIPU" - hence

> > > > > > my concern over

> > > > > > > Lagna

> > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u

have explained.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing

such touble to

> > > > > > marriage, native shd not be

> > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i

expressed in another

> > > > > > mssg (sohamsa) - the

> > > > > > > > > native was facing problem

like day-dreamings,

> > > > > > silly mistakes in

> > > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says

were reduced after

> > > > > > wearing that stone

> > > > > > > > > (hence my amazement).

Ganesha worship wud have

> > > > > > done him better to

> > > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is

suitable for him, or

> > > > > > wud u still suggest

> > > > > > > stone

> > > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma

exchange?) - Ju-Ve

> > > > > > are also in exchange

> > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka

for Ge lagna - hence

> > > > > > the question.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne

> > > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > sohamsa@

..com

> > > > > > <sohamsa%

> > > > > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency

will be also to follow

> > > > > > more dharma than

> > > > > > > > > occult. In

> > > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra

Lagnesh is in ninth.

> > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona

placement to Me/Ju) is

> > > > > > Sharada yoga per BPHS.

> > > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > > yoga

> > > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so

spouse can have

> > > > > > > > > > loose morals.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > === message truncated ===

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 26, 2007

*hraum namah adityaya*

Dear Mike,

Nope, if Parivartana contains good bhavas then the result is different

from Dainya-Parivartana. Seventh lord connected to ninth bhava is Raja

yoga (Lakshmi-Narayana Yoga). Marriage can be in wealthy family.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

Michael Travass napisa?(a):

>

> Dear Rafal,

> In a similar vien what would excange of 7th lord saturn with 10th lord

> Mars in Dasama mean.

> And in the same situation if the 9th lord is exalted in the 7th house

> and the 7th lord debilitaed in 10th house. in Dasama.

> Thanks and regards,

> Mike

>

> vedic astrology

> <vedic astrology%40>

> [vedic astrology

> <vedic astrology%40>] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz

> 26 July 2007 10:27

> vedic astrology

> <vedic astrology%40>

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lagnesh in 8th or 12th

> rafal ji

>

> *hraum namah adityaya*

>

> Dear Shreeya,

>

> In Dasamsa it means that native like short-projects and like to get

> money quickly (quickly retire). Similar to 10L in 5H.

>

> In Navamsa it would show reasons for break of 1st relationship - this

> will be the quality of native represented by that Graha. Generally

> native can like or have karma connected to short-terms relationships.

>

> I have chart where girl broke due to character traits of native, this

> was especially connnected to His quality of being harsh and cold. It was

>

> 2nd relationship and 3L Sani was in Lagna.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) <rafal%40rohinaa.com> com

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

>

> venusgaal2003 napisa?(a):

> >

> > Dear Rafal,

> >

> > What if there is exchange between navamasa LL and 8th lord ?what

> > does it indicate?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Regards

> > Shreeya

> >

> > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40>

>

> > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz

> > <starsuponme wrote:

> > >

> > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > >

> > > Dear Supriti,

> > >

> > > We can use all dasas while timing activation of those kind of

> > Yogas.

> > > Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when the dasa of planet

> > posited

> > > in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This is opposite for bad

> > bhava

> > > (dusthana/3H).Sookshma Parivartana should be seen especially from

> > > Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana refers to time of

> > > particular activities in life.

> > >

> > > Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is independent and this 'touch'

> > the

> > > native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL int that order).

> > >

> > > Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and this should

> > be

> > > especially seen when looking at Dasas for predicting events.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > email: rafal

> > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

> > >

> > > supriti108 napisa?(a):

> > > >

> > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > >

> > > > How do we time the transformation due to parivartana. Visti ji

> > > > mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there any other methods.

> > > >

> > > > Thank you.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Supriti

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%

> > 40>,

> > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rafalji,

> > > > > What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and the 12th

> > > > > lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty. How to

> > > > > offset this lagna by remedial measures. The problem

> > > > > becomes compounded because the lagna lord is Venus

> > > > > with Taurus ascendant.

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Manoj

> > > > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather

> > > > > > Purna-Yoga which

> > > > > > cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if

> > > > > > L,LL, AL are involved).

> > > > > > One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or

> > > > > > rather should go).

> > > > > > Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture.

> > > > > > These kind of people

> > > > > > doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6

> > > > > > to Lagna).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanx so much again for ur response and further

> > > > > > elaboration, however

> > > > > > > i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put a

> > > > > > logic for Ma/coral

> > > > > > > or any other logic - my question is that by

> > > > > > exchnage if Ra is now in

> > > > > > > 9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka

> > > > > > sthana - and for Ra

> > > > > > > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence

> > > > > > was the question

> > > > > > > that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give the

> > > > > > stone or avoid it.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was using

> > > > > > this pg as the ref:

> > > > > > > http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/

> > > > > > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish-

> > > > > > > i.html

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in-

> > jyotish-

> > > > <http://varahamihira

> <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish-

> <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish->>

> .blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish-

> > <http://varahamihira

> <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish-

> <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish->>

> .blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish->>

> > > > i.html>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by

> > > > > > what pg279 point 3) in

> > > > > > > VRA says.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So probably Guru Mantra wud be better?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa

> > > > > > to arrive at the

> > > > > > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this

> > > > > > chart:

> > > > > > > http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/

> > > > > > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part-

> > > > > > > 1.pdf

> > > > > >

> > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-2-

> > Part-

> > > > 1.pdf

> > > > <http://

> <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part-

> <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part->>

> .org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part-

> > <http://

> <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part-

> <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part->>

> .org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part->

> > 1.pdf>>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra

> > > > > > is also in ninth,

> > > > > > > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of the

> > > > > > latter factor?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given - but

> > > > > > wud not apply here

> > > > > > > since it is inimical to Me?

> > > > > > > Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra

> > > > > > recommended or do we go

> > > > > > > only for the lord of 9h for mantra?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on:

> > > > > > > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt

> > > > > > this

> > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are

> > > > > > very bad and

> > > > > > > shows what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern

> > > > > > over Lagna being 6th

> > > > > > > from lagnesh.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanx again

> > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com>,

> > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would

> > > > > > be in seventh bhava

> > > > > > > we

> > > > > > > > will perscribe Coral and everything will be

> > > > > > nice..No its not like

> > > > > > > that.

> > > > > > > > Please read VRA section about Gem perscription.

> > > > > > Yes, Ucchista

> > > > > > > Ganapati

> > > > > > > > worship is neccesary.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in

> > > > > > ninth) with Kamala

> > > > > > > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This will allow

> > > > > > to marry without

> > > > > > > delay.

> > > > > > > > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be

> > > > > > important to sustain

> > > > > > > marriage.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from

> > > > > > inheritance.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti,

> > > > > > interest in medicine

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and

> > > > > > will be strong

> > > > > > > warrior

> > > > > > > > and he can have buisness with printing books or

> > > > > > working with

> > > > > > > publishing.

> > > > > > > > He can also gain from occult and will be know as

> > > > > > sensitive and

> > > > > > > dynamic

> > > > > > > > person.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls

> > > > > > cud you explain

> > > > > > > what u

> > > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th

> > > > > > from Lagnesh wrt the

> > > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH

> > > > > > are very bad and

> > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence

> > > > > > my concern over

> > > > > > > Lagna

> > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to

> > > > > > marriage, native shd not be

> > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another

> > > > > > mssg (sohamsa) - the

> > > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings,

> > > > > > silly mistakes in

> > > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after

> > > > > > wearing that stone

> > > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have

> > > > > > done him better to

> > > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or

> > > > > > wud u still suggest

> > > > > > > stone

> > > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve

> > > > > > are also in exchange

> > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence

> > > > > > the question.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne

> > > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > > > <sohamsa%

> > > > > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow

> > > > > > more dharma than

> > > > > > > > > occult. In

> > > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.

> > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is

> > > > > > Sharada yoga per BPHS.

> > > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > > yoga

> > > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have

> > > > > > > > > > loose morals.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > === message truncated ===

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

July 27, 2007

Dear Rafal,

If 7th lord cojoining 9th lord is Shiva yoga and a blessing and if it

is in 6th house, it indicates broadening knowledge used for research,

then what does this conjunciton (that of 9th lord and 7th lord)

indicate if it happens in 7th house?

And further are the indications different if that 9th lord conjoining

the 7th lord is exhalted and teh 7th lord is in own house.

many thanks

peace

charu

sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

>

> *hraum namah adityaya*

>

> Dear Supriti,

>

> I dont know what to comment here. Seventh lord with ninth lord is Shiva

> Yoga which broaden knowledge, its blessing. If this is in sixth bhava

> then this will be used for research (other kind than eight bhava) and

> demands hard work to made it visible (9H from 10H). Buddha with Malefic

> in sixth gives argumentation and often court cases.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

>

> supriti108 napisa?(a):

> >

> > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > Dear Rafal,

> >

> > My comments below.

> > Thank you for helping me understand this.

> > Regards

> > Supriti

> > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...>

wrote:

> > >

> > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > >

> > > Dear Supriti,

> > >

> > > So dasa of planet in sixth bhava is bad, it means seperation and

> > > conflicts.

> >

> > [sM] How does this work with the parivartana. Ma is 2nd and 9th lord

> > in conjunction with 7th lord Me which is in exchange with 6th lord

Sun.

> >

>

> > Narayana Dasa shows what the world want to give You and drsti

> > > on seventh bhava shows that relationship, buisness and travel

will be

> > > highlighted during that time.

> >

> > [sM] OK, so Visti ji's words regarding transformation of rajasic to

> > satwic wrt marriage/alliance work with this.

> >

> > See which of Jupiter or Mo/Ve are in

> > > Kendra/Kona to determine which Dasa will work better.

> >

> > [sM] None of the planets are in Kendra/Kona, so I am confused. Mo is

> > in the 2nd house and Ju, Ve are in the 8th house. Ve and Mo are in

> > Kendra in D9 though.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > email: rafal@

> > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > >

> > > supriti108 napisa?(a):

> > > >

> > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > >

> > > > Thank you for your response. I am still not clear on one

concept. I

> > > > would really appreciate it if you could clarify it for me.

> > > >

> > > > I am adding my details for this question. I have a few

parivartanas

> > > > in my chart. I am particularly refering to the exchange of 6th and

> > > > 7th lord. 7th house is my HL.

> > > >

> > > > Visti ji has said and I quote: " Here the parivartana

> > > > being between a good and an evil house must cause a good situation

> > > > (marriage) to turn sour (enmity). Later this will reverse

again where

> > > > a bitter situation (enmity) becomes the cause of a great

friendship.

> > > > Your inference about your Näräyaëa daçä is very correct. "

> > > >

> > > > My question, although I am coming up on Pi Narayana Dasa

(aspecting

> > > > 7th house), I am also going through Ma vimsottari dasa (placed

in 6th

> > > > house). How do I know which one will show its effects.

> > > >

> > > > My birth details:

> > > > September 18, 1970

> > > > Time: 17:48:30

> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > Place: 88 E 22' 00 " , 22 N 34' 00 "

> > > > Kolkata, India

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Supriti

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%

40. com>,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Supriti,

> > > > >

> > > > > We can use all dasas while timing activation of those kind of

> > > > Yogas.

> > > > > Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when the dasa of planet

> > > > posited

> > > > > in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This is opposite

for bad

> > > > bhava

> > > > > (dusthana/3H) .Sookshma Parivartana should be seen

especially from

> > > > > Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana refers to time of

> > > > > particular activities in life.

> > > > >

> > > > > Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is independent and this

'touch'

> > > > the

> > > > > native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL int that order).

> > > > >

> > > > > Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and this

should be

> > > > > especially seen when looking at Dasas for predicting events.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > >

> > > > > supriti108 napisa?(a):

> > > > > >

> > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > How do we time the transformation due to parivartana. Visti ji

> > > > > > mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there any other methods.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank you.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Supriti

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%

> > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Rafalji,

> > > > > > > What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and the 12th

> > > > > > > lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty. How to

> > > > > > > offset this lagna by remedial measures. The problem

> > > > > > > becomes compounded because the lagna lord is Venus

> > > > > > > with Taurus ascendant.

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Manoj

> > > > > > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather

> > > > > > > > Purna-Yoga which

> > > > > > > > cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if

> > > > > > > > L,LL, AL are involved).

> > > > > > > > One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or

> > > > > > > > rather should go).

> > > > > > > > Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture.

> > > > > > > > These kind of people

> > > > > > > > doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6

> > > > > > > > to Lagna).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanx so much again for ur response and further

> > > > > > > > elaboration, however

> > > > > > > > > i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put a

> > > > > > > > logic for Ma/coral

> > > > > > > > > or any other logic - my question is that by

> > > > > > > > exchnage if Ra is now in

> > > > > > > > > 9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka

> > > > > > > > sthana - and for Ra

> > > > > > > > > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence

> > > > > > > > was the question

> > > > > > > > > that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give the

> > > > > > > > stone or avoid it.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was using

> > > > > > > > this pg as the ref:

> > > > > > > > > http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/

> > > > > > > > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish-

> > > > > > > > > i.html

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in-

> > > > jyotish-

> > > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones-

> > > > in-jyotish-

> > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones-

in-jyotish->>

> > > > > > i.html>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by

> > > > > > > > what pg279 point 3) in

> > > > > > > > > VRA says.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > So probably Guru Mantra wud be better?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa

> > > > > > > > to arrive at the

> > > > > > > > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this

> > > > > > > > chart:

> > > > > > > > > http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/

> > > > > > > > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part-

> > > > > > > > > 1.pdf

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri-

Class-2-

> > > > Part-

> > > > > > 1.pdf

> > > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri-

> > Class-2-Part-

> > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri-

Class-2-Part->

> > > > 1.pdf>>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra

> > > > > > > > is also in ninth,

> > > > > > > > > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of the

> > > > > > > > latter factor?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given - but

> > > > > > > > wud not apply here

> > > > > > > > > since it is inimical to Me?

> > > > > > > > > Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra

> > > > > > > > recommended or do we go

> > > > > > > > > only for the lord of 9h for mantra?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on:

> > > > > > > > > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt

> > > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are

> > > > > > > > very bad and

> > > > > > > > > shows what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern

> > > > > > > > over Lagna being 6th

> > > > > > > > > from lagnesh.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanx again

> > > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com>,

> > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would

> > > > > > > > be in seventh bhava

> > > > > > > > > we

> > > > > > > > > > will perscribe Coral and everything will be

> > > > > > > > nice..No its not like

> > > > > > > > > that.

> > > > > > > > > > Please read VRA section about Gem perscription.

> > > > > > > > Yes, Ucchista

> > > > > > > > > Ganapati

> > > > > > > > > > worship is neccesary.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in

> > > > > > > > ninth) with Kamala

> > > > > > > > > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This will allow

> > > > > > > > to marry without

> > > > > > > > > delay.

> > > > > > > > > > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be

> > > > > > > > important to sustain

> > > > > > > > > marriage.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from

> > > > > > > > inheritance.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti,

> > > > > > > > interest in medicine

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and

> > > > > > > > will be strong

> > > > > > > > > warrior

> > > > > > > > > > and he can have buisness with printing books or

> > > > > > > > working with

> > > > > > > > > publishing.

> > > > > > > > > > He can also gain from occult and will be know as

> > > > > > > > sensitive and

> > > > > > > > > dynamic

> > > > > > > > > > person.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls

> > > > > > > > cud you explain

> > > > > > > > > what u

> > > > > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th

> > > > > > > > from Lagnesh wrt the

> > > > > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH

> > > > > > > > are very bad and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence

> > > > > > > > my concern over

> > > > > > > > > Lagna

> > > > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to

> > > > > > > > marriage, native shd not be

> > > > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another

> > > > > > > > mssg (sohamsa) - the

> > > > > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings,

> > > > > > > > silly mistakes in

> > > > > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after

> > > > > > > > wearing that stone

> > > > > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have

> > > > > > > > done him better to

> > > > > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h).

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or

> > > > > > > > wud u still suggest

> > > > > > > > > stone

> > > > > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve

> > > > > > > > are also in exchange

> > > > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence

> > > > > > > > the question.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne

> > > > > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > > > > > <sohamsa%

> > > > > > > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow

> > > > > > > > more dharma than

> > > > > > > > > > > occult. In

> > > > > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is

> > > > > > > > Sharada yoga per BPHS.

> > > > > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > > > > yoga

> > > > > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have

> > > > > > > > > > > > loose morals.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > === message truncated ===

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 27, 2007

|OM GURAVE NAMAH|

Dear Rafal,

Thank you once again. With regards to this parivartana query I think

I have not been able to word my query properly. However, as usual the

conversation has been very enlightening.

My question is if there is a parivartana between a upachaya/dushtana and

a kendra house, In this example, 6th and 7th. If at the same time,

current Narayana dasa aspects the kendra and current Vimsottari dasa is

related to upachaya/dushtana, how do we decide which dasa will give its

fruits.

Regards

Supriti

sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

>

> *hraum namah adityaya*

>

> Dear Supriti,

>

> I dont know what to comment here. Seventh lord with ninth lord is

Shiva

> Yoga which broaden knowledge, its blessing. If this is in sixth bhava

> then this will be used for research (other kind than eight bhava) and

> demands hard work to made it visible (9H from 10H). Buddha with

Malefic

> in sixth gives argumentation and often court cases.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

>

> supriti108 napisa?(a):

> >

> > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > Dear Rafal,

> >

> > My comments below.

> > Thank you for helping me understand this.

> > Regards

> > Supriti

> > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...>

wrote:

> > >

> > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > >

> > > Dear Supriti,

> > >

> > > So dasa of planet in sixth bhava is bad, it means seperation and

> > > conflicts.

> >

> > [sM] How does this work with the parivartana. Ma is 2nd and 9th lord

> > in conjunction with 7th lord Me which is in exchange with 6th lord

Sun.

> >

>

> > Narayana Dasa shows what the world want to give You and drsti

> > > on seventh bhava shows that relationship, buisness and travel will

be

> > > highlighted during that time.

> >

> > [sM] OK, so Visti ji's words regarding transformation of rajasic to

> > satwic wrt marriage/alliance work with this.

> >

> > See which of Jupiter or Mo/Ve are in

> > > Kendra/Kona to determine which Dasa will work better.

> >

> > [sM] None of the planets are in Kendra/Kona, so I am confused. Mo is

> > in the 2nd house and Ju, Ve are in the 8th house. Ve and Mo are in

> > Kendra in D9 though.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > email: rafal@

> > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > >

> > > supriti108 napisa?(a):

> > > >

> > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > >

> > > > Thank you for your response. I am still not clear on one

concept. I

> > > > would really appreciate it if you could clarify it for me.

> > > >

> > > > I am adding my details for this question. I have a few

parivartanas

> > > > in my chart. I am particularly refering to the exchange of 6th

and

> > > > 7th lord. 7th house is my HL.

> > > >

> > > > Visti ji has said and I quote: " Here the parivartana

> > > > being between a good and an evil house must cause a good

situation

> > > > (marriage) to turn sour (enmity). Later this will reverse again

where

> > > > a bitter situation (enmity) becomes the cause of a great

friendship.

> > > > Your inference about your Näräyaëa daçä is very

correct. "

> > > >

> > > > My question, although I am coming up on Pi Narayana Dasa

(aspecting

> > > > 7th house), I am also going through Ma vimsottari dasa (placed

in 6th

> > > > house). How do I know which one will show its effects.

> > > >

> > > > My birth details:

> > > > September 18, 1970

> > > > Time: 17:48:30

> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > Place: 88 E 22' 00 " , 22 N 34' 00 "

> > > > Kolkata, India

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Supriti

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40.

com>,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Supriti,

> > > > >

> > > > > We can use all dasas while timing activation of those kind of

> > > > Yogas.

> > > > > Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when the dasa of planet

> > > > posited

> > > > > in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This is opposite for

bad

> > > > bhava

> > > > > (dusthana/3H) .Sookshma Parivartana should be seen especially

from

> > > > > Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana refers to time

of

> > > > > particular activities in life.

> > > > >

> > > > > Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is independent and this

'touch'

> > > > the

> > > > > native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL int that order).

> > > > >

> > > > > Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and this

should be

> > > > > especially seen when looking at Dasas for predicting events.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > >

> > > > > supriti108 napisa?(a):

> > > > > >

> > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > How do we time the transformation due to parivartana. Visti

ji

> > > > > > mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there any other methods.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank you.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Supriti

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%

> > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Rafalji,

> > > > > > > What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and the 12th

> > > > > > > lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty. How to

> > > > > > > offset this lagna by remedial measures. The problem

> > > > > > > becomes compounded because the lagna lord is Venus

> > > > > > > with Taurus ascendant.

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Manoj

> > > > > > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather

> > > > > > > > Purna-Yoga which

> > > > > > > > cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if

> > > > > > > > L,LL, AL are involved).

> > > > > > > > One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or

> > > > > > > > rather should go).

> > > > > > > > Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture.

> > > > > > > > These kind of people

> > > > > > > > doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6

> > > > > > > > to Lagna).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanx so much again for ur response and further

> > > > > > > > elaboration, however

> > > > > > > > > i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put a

> > > > > > > > logic for Ma/coral

> > > > > > > > > or any other logic - my question is that by

> > > > > > > > exchnage if Ra is now in

> > > > > > > > > 9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka

> > > > > > > > sthana - and for Ra

> > > > > > > > > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence

> > > > > > > > was the question

> > > > > > > > > that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give the

> > > > > > > > stone or avoid it.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was using

> > > > > > > > this pg as the ref:

> > > > > > > > > http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/

> > > > > > > > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish-

> > > > > > > > > i.html

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones-

in-

> > > > jyotish-

> > > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones-

> > > > in-jyotish-

> > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones-

in-jyotish->>

> > > > > > i.html>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by

> > > > > > > > what pg279 point 3) in

> > > > > > > > > VRA says.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > So probably Guru Mantra wud be better?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa

> > > > > > > > to arrive at the

> > > > > > > > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this

> > > > > > > > chart:

> > > > > > > > > http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/

> > > > > > > > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part-

> > > > > > > > > 1.pdf

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri-

Class-2-

> > > > Part-

> > > > > > 1.pdf

> > > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri-

> > Class-2-Part-

> > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri-

Class-2-Part->

> > > > 1.pdf>>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra

> > > > > > > > is also in ninth,

> > > > > > > > > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of the

> > > > > > > > latter factor?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given - but

> > > > > > > > wud not apply here

> > > > > > > > > since it is inimical to Me?

> > > > > > > > > Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra

> > > > > > > > recommended or do we go

> > > > > > > > > only for the lord of 9h for mantra?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on:

> > > > > > > > > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt

> > > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are

> > > > > > > > very bad and

> > > > > > > > > shows what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern

> > > > > > > > over Lagna being 6th

> > > > > > > > > from lagnesh.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanx again

> > > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com>,

> > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would

> > > > > > > > be in seventh bhava

> > > > > > > > > we

> > > > > > > > > > will perscribe Coral and everything will be

> > > > > > > > nice..No its not like

> > > > > > > > > that.

> > > > > > > > > > Please read VRA section about Gem perscription.

> > > > > > > > Yes, Ucchista

> > > > > > > > > Ganapati

> > > > > > > > > > worship is neccesary.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in

> > > > > > > > ninth) with Kamala

> > > > > > > > > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This will allow

> > > > > > > > to marry without

> > > > > > > > > delay.

> > > > > > > > > > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be

> > > > > > > > important to sustain

> > > > > > > > > marriage.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from

> > > > > > > > inheritance.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti,

> > > > > > > > interest in medicine

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and

> > > > > > > > will be strong

> > > > > > > > > warrior

> > > > > > > > > > and he can have buisness with printing books or

> > > > > > > > working with

> > > > > > > > > publishing.

> > > > > > > > > > He can also gain from occult and will be know as

> > > > > > > > sensitive and

> > > > > > > > > dynamic

> > > > > > > > > > person.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls

> > > > > > > > cud you explain

> > > > > > > > > what u

> > > > > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th

> > > > > > > > from Lagnesh wrt the

> > > > > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH

> > > > > > > > are very bad and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence

> > > > > > > > my concern over

> > > > > > > > > Lagna

> > > > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to

> > > > > > > > marriage, native shd not be

> > > > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another

> > > > > > > > mssg (sohamsa) - the

> > > > > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings,

> > > > > > > > silly mistakes in

> > > > > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after

> > > > > > > > wearing that stone

> > > > > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have

> > > > > > > > done him better to

> > > > > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h).

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or

> > > > > > > > wud u still suggest

> > > > > > > > > stone

> > > > > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve

> > > > > > > > are also in exchange

> > > > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence

> > > > > > > > the question.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne

> > > > > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > > > > > <sohamsa%

> > > > > > > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow

> > > > > > > > more dharma than

> > > > > > > > > > > occult. In

> > > > > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is

> > > > > > > > Sharada yoga per BPHS.

> > > > > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > > > > yoga

> > > > > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have

> > > > > > > > > > > > loose morals.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > === message truncated ===

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 27, 2007

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Supriti,

I just told You, read my comment again.

Contemplate difference between Vimshottari and Narayana Dasa and You

will know.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

supriti108 napisał(a):

|OM GURAVE NAMAH|

Dear Rafal,

Thank you once again. With regards to this parivartana query I think

I have not been able to word my query properly. However, as usual the

conversation has been very enlightening.

My question is if there is a parivartana between a upachaya/dushtana and

a kendra house, In this example, 6th and 7th. If at the same time,

current Narayana dasa aspects the kendra and current Vimsottari dasa is

related to upachaya/dushtana, how do we decide which dasa will give its

fruits.

Regards

Supriti

sohamsa ,

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

>

> *hraum namah adityaya*

>

> Dear Supriti,

>

> I dont know what to comment here. Seventh lord with ninth lord is

Shiva

> Yoga which broaden knowledge, its blessing. If this is in sixth

bhava

> then this will be used for research (other kind than eight bhava)

and

> demands hard work to made it visible (9H from 10H). Buddha with

Malefic

> in sixth gives argumentation and often court cases.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

>

> supriti108 napisa?(a):

> >

> > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > Dear Rafal,

> >

> > My comments below.

> > Thank you for helping me understand this.

> > Regards

> > Supriti

> > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme@ ...>

wrote:

> > >

> > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > >

> > > Dear Supriti,

> > >

> > > So dasa of planet in sixth bhava is bad, it means

seperation and

> > > conflicts.

> >

> > [sM] How does this work with the parivartana. Ma is 2nd and

9th lord

> > in conjunction with 7th lord Me which is in exchange with 6th

lord

Sun.

> >

>

> > Narayana Dasa shows what the world want to give You and drsti

> > > on seventh bhava shows that relationship, buisness and

travel will

be

> > > highlighted during that time.

> >

> > [sM] OK, so Visti ji's words regarding transformation of

rajasic to

> > satwic wrt marriage/alliance work with this.

> >

> > See which of Jupiter or Mo/Ve are in

> > > Kendra/Kona to determine which Dasa will work better.

> >

> > [sM] None of the planets are in Kendra/Kona, so I am

confused. Mo is

> > in the 2nd house and Ju, Ve are in the 8th house. Ve and Mo

are in

> > Kendra in D9 though.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > email: rafal@

> > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > >

> > > supriti108 napisa?(a):

> > > >

> > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > >

> > > > Thank you for your response. I am still not clear

on one

concept. I

> > > > would really appreciate it if you could clarify it

for me.

> > > >

> > > > I am adding my details for this question. I have a

few

parivartanas

> > > > in my chart. I am particularly refering to the

exchange of 6th

and

> > > > 7th lord. 7th house is my HL.

> > > >

> > > > Visti ji has said and I quote: "Here the parivartana

> > > > being between a good and an evil house must cause a

good

situation

> > > > (marriage) to turn sour (enmity). Later this will

reverse again

where

> > > > a bitter situation (enmity) becomes the cause of a

great

friendship.

> > > > Your inference about your Näräyaëa daçä is very

correct."

> > > >

> > > > My question, although I am coming up on Pi Narayana

Dasa

(aspecting

> > > > 7th house), I am also going through Ma vimsottari

dasa (placed

in 6th

> > > > house). How do I know which one will show its

effects.

> > > >

> > > > My birth details:

> > > > September 18, 1970

> > > > Time: 17:48:30

> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > Place: 88 E 22' 00", 22 N 34' 00"

> > > > Kolkata, India

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Supriti

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%

40.

com>,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Supriti,

> > > > >

> > > > > We can use all dasas while timing activation

of those kind of

> > > > Yogas.

> > > > > Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when

the dasa of planet

> > > > posited

> > > > > in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This

is opposite for

bad

> > > > bhava

> > > > > (dusthana/3H) .Sookshma Parivartana should be

seen especially

from

> > > > > Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana

refers to time

of

> > > > > particular activities in life.

> > > > >

> > > > > Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is

independent and this

'touch'

> > > > the

> > > > > native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL

int that order).

> > > > >

> > > > > Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of

fortune and this

should be

> > > > > especially seen when looking at Dasas for

predicting events.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > >

> > > > > supriti108 napisa?(a):

> > > > > >

> > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > How do we time the transformation due to

parivartana. Visti

ji

> > > > > > mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there

any other methods.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank you.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Supriti

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

<sohamsa%

> > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@

....>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Rafalji,

> > > > > > > What is the remedy for lagna lord in

12th and the 12th

> > > > > > > lord in lagna. This yoga gives

abject poverty. How to

> > > > > > > offset this lagna by remedial

measures. The problem

> > > > > > > becomes compounded because the lagna

lord is Venus

> > > > > > > with Taurus ascendant.

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Manoj

> > > > > > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@

....> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change

placement, its rather

> > > > > > > > Purna-Yoga which

> > > > > > > > cause reversal of fortune and

transformation (if

> > > > > > > > L,LL, AL are involved).

> > > > > > > > One good Devi Mantra will be

enough for the native.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then

one goes abroad (or

> > > > > > > > rather should go).

> > > > > > > > Sixth from it will be Lagna -

birthplace/culture.

> > > > > > > > These kind of people

> > > > > > > > doesnt like roots, but are very

good at fighting (6

> > > > > > > > to Lagna).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanx so much again for ur

response and further

> > > > > > > > elaboration, however

> > > > > > > > > i wud like to clarify that

i never meant to put a

> > > > > > > > logic for Ma/coral

> > > > > > > > > or any other logic - my

question is that by

> > > > > > > > exchnage if Ra is now in

> > > > > > > > > 9h, it will be considered

to be in marana-karaka

> > > > > > > > sthana - and for Ra

> > > > > > > > > in mks, then stone for Ju

is to be given - hence

> > > > > > > > was the question

> > > > > > > > > that Ju is badhaka in this

case - shd we give the

> > > > > > > > stone or avoid it.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I wud anticipate a no in

answer, since i was using

> > > > > > > > this pg as the ref:

> > > > > > > > > http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/

> > > > > > > > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish-

> > > > > > > > > i.html

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <http://varahamihira

..blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones-

in-

> > > > jyotish-

> > > > > > <http://varahamihira

..blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones-

> > > > in-jyotish-

> > > > <http://varahamihira

..blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones-

in-jyotish->>

> > > > > > i.html>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the same (Ju inimical to

lagnesh) also goes by

> > > > > > > > what pg279 point 3) in

> > > > > > > > > VRA says.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > So probably Guru Mantra

wud be better?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > and we wud also look at

nakshatra dispositing Sa

> > > > > > > > to arrive at the

> > > > > > > > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h

(Aq with Sa) for this

> > > > > > > > chart:

> > > > > > > > > http:// .org/sjc_

delhi/pdfs/

> > > > > > > > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part-

> > > > > > > > > 1.pdf

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <http://

..org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri-

Class-2-

> > > > Part-

> > > > > > 1.pdf

> > > > > > <http://

..org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri-

> > Class-2-Part-

> > > > <http://

..org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri-

Class-2-Part->

> > > > 1.pdf>>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now Sa is in Ra's

nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra

> > > > > > > > is also in ninth,

> > > > > > > > > wud Durga Mantra be added,

maybe regardless of the

> > > > > > > > latter factor?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone

for Su can be given - but

> > > > > > > > wud not apply here

> > > > > > > > > since it is inimical to Me?

> > > > > > > > > Considering Ma in 9h - any

further mantra

> > > > > > > > recommended or do we go

> > > > > > > > > only for the lord of 9h

for mantra?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Also, Still awaiting any

elaboration on:

> > > > > > > > > ur mssg below re. 6th and

11th from Lagnesh wrt

> > > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > chart. "while sixth and

eleventh FROM LAGNESH are

> > > > > > > > very bad and

> > > > > > > > > shows what one sees as

RIPU" - hence my concern

> > > > > > > > over Lagna being 6th

> > > > > > > > > from lagnesh.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanx again

> > > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > sohamsa@

..com

> > > > > > > > <sohamsa%

40. com>,

> > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic

is like that: if Mars would

> > > > > > > > be in seventh bhava

> > > > > > > > > we

> > > > > > > > > > will perscribe Coral

and everything will be

> > > > > > > > nice..No its not like

> > > > > > > > > that.

> > > > > > > > > > Please read VRA

section about Gem perscription.

> > > > > > > > Yes, Ucchista

> > > > > > > > > Ganapati

> > > > > > > > > > worship is neccesary.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 2. I would rather

advise Devi worship (Sani in

> > > > > > > > ninth) with Kamala

> > > > > > > > > > Mahavidya (Venus

debiliatated) . This will allow

> > > > > > > > to marry without

> > > > > > > > > delay.

> > > > > > > > > > Then after that

Narayana Mantra will be

> > > > > > > > important to sustain

> > > > > > > > > marriage.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > He has 3 yogas which

shows gain from

> > > > > > > > inheritance.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > He will be quite

spiritual person with bhakti,

> > > > > > > > interest in medicine

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > good knowledge, but

can go easily into fight and

> > > > > > > > will be strong

> > > > > > > > > warrior

> > > > > > > > > > and he can have

buisness with printing books or

> > > > > > > > working with

> > > > > > > > > publishing.

> > > > > > > > > > He can also gain from

occult and will be know as

> > > > > > > > sensitive and

> > > > > > > > > dynamic

> > > > > > > > > > person.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center

Guru

> > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak

napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne

for ur explaination, however pls

> > > > > > > > cud you explain

> > > > > > > > > what u

> > > > > > > > > > > said in mssg

below to Asha re. 6th and 11th

> > > > > > > > from Lagnesh wrt the

> > > > > > > > > > > chart. "while

sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH

> > > > > > > > are very bad and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > shows

> > > what one sees as RIPU" - hence

> > > > > > > > my concern over

> > > > > > > > > Lagna

> > > > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh

- Ra u have explained.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is

causing such touble to

> > > > > > > > marriage, native shd not be

> > > > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye

- as i expressed in another

> > > > > > > > mssg (sohamsa) - the

> > > > > > > > > > > native was

facing problem like day-dreamings,

> > > > > > > > silly mistakes in

> > > > > > > > > > > studies etc.

which he says were reduced after

> > > > > > > > wearing that stone

> > > > > > > > > > > (hence my

amazement). Ganesha worship wud have

> > > > > > > > done him better to

> > > > > > > > > > > treat this Ke

(in 12h).

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Looks like no

stone is suitable for him, or

> > > > > > > > wud u still suggest

> > > > > > > > > stone

> > > > > > > > > > > for Ju

(considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve

> > > > > > > > are also in exchange

> > > > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is

badhaka for Ge lagna - hence

> > > > > > > > the question.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne

> > > > > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

sohamsa@ .com

> > > > > > > > <sohamsa%

> > > > > > > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum

namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul

Sadhak,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but

tendency will be also to follow

> > > > > > > > more dharma than

> > > > > > > > > > > occult. In

> > > > > > > > > > > > bhava

chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me

(kona placement to Me/Ju) is

> > > > > > > > Sharada yoga per BPHS.

> > > > > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > > > > yoga

> > > > > > > > > > > > is in

Upapada also so spouse can have

> > > > > > > > > > > > loose

morals.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > === message truncated ===

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 27, 2007

|OM GURAVE NAMAH|

Dear Rafal,

I am not sure if I have understood it right. I am writing my

interpretation below.

Quoting from Varahamihira Blogspot

" Though the name does not suggest much differences it has as compared

to the vimshottari dasa system, in actual practice, this dasa is more

deterministic and fixed and shows the wishes of Narayana, whereas the

vimshottari dasa shows the reaction of normal mortals to the

situations they are placed in. "

So this would mean that Narayana wishes for the tattwa change via

parivartana etc. The manifestation of this wish is court cases,

separation, argument, etc.

Regards

Supriti

sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

>

> *hraum namah adityaya*

>

> Dear Supriti,

>

> I just told You, read my comment again.

>

> Contemplate difference between Vimshottari and Narayana Dasa and

You

> will know.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

>

> supriti108 napisa?(a):

> >

> > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> >

> > Dear Rafal,

> >

> > Thank you once again. With regards to this parivartana query I

think

> > I have not been able to word my query properly. However, as usual

the

> > conversation has been very enlightening.

> >

> > My question is if there is a parivartana between a

upachaya/dushtana and

> > a kendra house, In this example, 6th and 7th. If at the same time,

> > current Narayana dasa aspects the kendra and current Vimsottari

dasa is

> > related to upachaya/dushtana, how do we decide which dasa will

give its

> > fruits.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Supriti

> > sohamsa <sohamsa%

40>,

> > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> wrote:

> > >

> > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > >

> > > Dear Supriti,

> > >

> > > I dont know what to comment here. Seventh lord with ninth lord

is

> > Shiva

> > > Yoga which broaden knowledge, its blessing. If this is in sixth

bhava

> > > then this will be used for research (other kind than eight

bhava) and

> > > demands hard work to made it visible (9H from 10H). Buddha with

> > Malefic

> > > in sixth gives argumentation and often court cases.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > email: rafal@

> > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

> > >

> > > supriti108 napisa?(a):

> > > >

> > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > >

> > > > My comments below.

> > > > Thank you for helping me understand this.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Supriti

> > > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme@ ...>

> > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Supriti,

> > > > >

> > > > > So dasa of planet in sixth bhava is bad, it means

seperation and

> > > > > conflicts.

> > > >

> > > > [sM] How does this work with the parivartana. Ma is 2nd and

9th lord

> > > > in conjunction with 7th lord Me which is in exchange with 6th

lord

> > Sun.

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Narayana Dasa shows what the world want to give You and drsti

> > > > > on seventh bhava shows that relationship, buisness and

travel will

> > be

> > > > > highlighted during that time.

> > > >

> > > > [sM] OK, so Visti ji's words regarding transformation of

rajasic to

> > > > satwic wrt marriage/alliance work with this.

> > > >

> > > > See which of Jupiter or Mo/Ve are in

> > > > > Kendra/Kona to determine which Dasa will work better.

> > > >

> > > > [sM] None of the planets are in Kendra/Kona, so I am

confused. Mo is

> > > > in the 2nd house and Ju, Ve are in the 8th house. Ve and Mo

are in

> > > > Kendra in D9 though.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > >

> > > > > supriti108 napisa?(a):

> > > > > >

> > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank you for your response. I am still not clear on one

> > concept. I

> > > > > > would really appreciate it if you could clarify it for me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am adding my details for this question. I have a few

> > parivartanas

> > > > > > in my chart. I am particularly refering to the exchange

of 6th

> > and

> > > > > > 7th lord. 7th house is my HL.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Visti ji has said and I quote: " Here the parivartana

> > > > > > being between a good and an evil house must cause a good

> > situation

> > > > > > (marriage) to turn sour (enmity). Later this will reverse

again

> > where

> > > > > > a bitter situation (enmity) becomes the cause of a great

> > friendship.

> > > > > > Your inference about your Näräyaëa daçä is very

> > correct. "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My question, although I am coming up on Pi Narayana Dasa

> > (aspecting

> > > > > > 7th house), I am also going through Ma vimsottari dasa

(placed

> > in 6th

> > > > > > house). How do I know which one will show its effects.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My birth details:

> > > > > > September 18, 1970

> > > > > > Time: 17:48:30

> > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > > Place: 88 E 22' 00 " , 22 N 34' 00 "

> > > > > > Kolkata, India

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > Supriti

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%

40.

> > com>,

> > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Supriti,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > We can use all dasas while timing activation of those

kind of

> > > > > > Yogas.

> > > > > > > Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when the dasa of

planet

> > > > > > posited

> > > > > > > in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This is

opposite for

> > bad

> > > > > > bhava

> > > > > > > (dusthana/3H) .Sookshma Parivartana should be seen

especially

> > from

> > > > > > > Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana refers

to time

> > of

> > > > > > > particular activities in life.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is independent and

this

> > 'touch'

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL int that

order).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and

this

> > should be

> > > > > > > especially seen when looking at Dasas for predicting

events.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > supriti108 napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > How do we time the transformation due to parivartana.

Visti

> > ji

> > > > > > > > mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there any other

methods.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thank you.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > Supriti

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%

> > > > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Rafalji,

> > > > > > > > > What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and the

12th

> > > > > > > > > lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty. How

to

> > > > > > > > > offset this lagna by remedial measures. The problem

> > > > > > > > > becomes compounded because the lagna lord is Venus

> > > > > > > > > with Taurus ascendant.

> > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > Manoj

> > > > > > > > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather

> > > > > > > > > > Purna-Yoga which

> > > > > > > > > > cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if

> > > > > > > > > > L,LL, AL are involved).

> > > > > > > > > > One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the

native.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or

> > > > > > > > > > rather should go).

> > > > > > > > > > Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture.

> > > > > > > > > > These kind of people

> > > > > > > > > > doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting

(6

> > > > > > > > > > to Lagna).

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanx so much again for ur response and further

> > > > > > > > > > elaboration, however

> > > > > > > > > > > i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put

a

> > > > > > > > > > logic for Ma/coral

> > > > > > > > > > > or any other logic - my question is that by

> > > > > > > > > > exchnage if Ra is now in

> > > > > > > > > > > 9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka

> > > > > > > > > > sthana - and for Ra

> > > > > > > > > > > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence

> > > > > > > > > > was the question

> > > > > > > > > > > that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give

the

> > > > > > > > > > stone or avoid it.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was

using

> > > > > > > > > > this pg as the ref:

> > > > > > > > > > > http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/

> > > > > > > > > > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish-

> > > > > > > > > > > i.html

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/

10/gemstones-

> > in-

> > > > > > jyotish-

> > > > > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/

10/gemstones-

> > > > > > in-jyotish-

> > > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones-

> > in-jyotish->>

> > > > > > > > i.html>

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by

> > > > > > > > > > what pg279 point 3) in

> > > > > > > > > > > VRA says.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > So probably Guru Mantra wud be better?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa

> > > > > > > > > > to arrive at the

> > > > > > > > > > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this

> > > > > > > > > > chart:

> > > > > > > > > > > http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/

> > > > > > > > > > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part-

> > > > > > > > > > > 1.pdf

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri-

> > Class-2-

> > > > > > Part-

> > > > > > > > 1.pdf

> > > > > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri-

> > > > Class-2-Part-

> > > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri-

> > Class-2-Part->

> > > > > > 1.pdf>>

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if

Ra

> > > > > > > > > > is also in ninth,

> > > > > > > > > > > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of

the

> > > > > > > > > > latter factor?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given -

but

> > > > > > > > > > wud not apply here

> > > > > > > > > > > since it is inimical to Me?

> > > > > > > > > > > Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra

> > > > > > > > > > recommended or do we go

> > > > > > > > > > > only for the lord of 9h for mantra?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on:

> > > > > > > > > > > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt

> > > > > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH

are

> > > > > > > > > > very bad and

> > > > > > > > > > > shows what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern

> > > > > > > > > > over Lagna being 6th

> > > > > > > > > > > from lagnesh.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanx again

> > > > > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > > > > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com>,

> > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars

would

> > > > > > > > > > be in seventh bhava

> > > > > > > > > > > we

> > > > > > > > > > > > will perscribe Coral and everything will be

> > > > > > > > > > nice..No its not like

> > > > > > > > > > > that.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Please read VRA section about Gem

perscription.

> > > > > > > > > > Yes, Ucchista

> > > > > > > > > > > Ganapati

> > > > > > > > > > > > worship is neccesary.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in

> > > > > > > > > > ninth) with Kamala

> > > > > > > > > > > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This will

allow

> > > > > > > > > > to marry without

> > > > > > > > > > > delay.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be

> > > > > > > > > > important to sustain

> > > > > > > > > > > marriage.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from

> > > > > > > > > > inheritance.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti,

> > > > > > > > > > interest in medicine

> > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > good knowledge, but can go easily into fight

and

> > > > > > > > > > will be strong

> > > > > > > > > > > warrior

> > > > > > > > > > > > and he can have buisness with printing books

or

> > > > > > > > > > working with

> > > > > > > > > > > publishing.

> > > > > > > > > > > > He can also gain from occult and will be know

as

> > > > > > > > > > sensitive and

> > > > > > > > > > > dynamic

> > > > > > > > > > > > person.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however

pls

> > > > > > > > > > cud you explain

> > > > > > > > > > > what u

> > > > > > > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th

> > > > > > > > > > from Lagnesh wrt the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM

LAGNESH

> > > > > > > > > > are very bad and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " -

hence

> > > > > > > > > > my concern over

> > > > > > > > > > > Lagna

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to

> > > > > > > > > > marriage, native shd not be

> > > > > > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another

> > > > > > > > > > mssg (sohamsa) - the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-

dreamings,

> > > > > > > > > > silly mistakes in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced

after

> > > > > > > > > > wearing that stone

> > > > > > > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud

have

> > > > > > > > > > done him better to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h).

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or

> > > > > > > > > > wud u still suggest

> > > > > > > > > > > stone

> > > > > > > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve

> > > > > > > > > > are also in exchange

> > > > > > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence

> > > > > > > > > > the question.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne

> > > > > > > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > > > > > > > <sohamsa%

> > > > > > > > > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to

follow

> > > > > > > > > > more dharma than

> > > > > > > > > > > > > occult. In

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is

> > > > > > > > > > Sharada yoga per BPHS.

> > > > > > > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > > > > > > yoga

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > loose morals.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > === message truncated ===

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 27, 2007

Dear Supriti, I may be late to respond to your Qs, just wanted to bring attention to couple of things. Ju and Mo give Raya Joga, good wealth, after marriage likely. Re your dasas periods, I feel you've wanted some explanation. In Vimsottari, AD may take over MD, so many astrologers set MD aside and predict based on AD. It's all about how we perceive the world. Narayana Dasa, on the other hand tells us 'what the world has in stake for you' and Maha Dasa is the King, always. Antara may add some info, but unlike in Vimsottari, Maha Dasa sets up the stage for related events. If one event is conferred by both dasas

you can do fine tuning. I hope this answers your Q Regards, Anna

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July 28, 2007

Dear Rafalji

Please would you elaborate on the shiva yoga you mention here? If 7th

lord with 9th lord in 6th house is shiva yoga which shows broadening

of knowledge specifically used for research, the what does that yoga

mean if it takes place in 7th house? Thank you

peace

charu

sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

>

> *hraum namah adityaya*

>

> Dear Supriti,

>

> I dont know what to comment here. Seventh lord with ninth lord is Shiva

> Yoga which broaden knowledge, its blessing. If this is in sixth bhava

> then this will be used for research (other kind than eight bhava) and

> demands hard work to made it visible (9H from 10H). Buddha with Malefic

> in sixth gives argumentation and often court cases.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

>

> supriti108 napisa?(a):

> >

> > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > Dear Rafal,

> >

> > My comments below.

> > Thank you for helping me understand this.

> > Regards

> > Supriti

> > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...>

wrote:

> > >

> > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > >

> > > Dear Supriti,

> > >

> > > So dasa of planet in sixth bhava is bad, it means seperation and

> > > conflicts.

> >

> > [sM] How does this work with the parivartana. Ma is 2nd and 9th lord

> > in conjunction with 7th lord Me which is in exchange with 6th lord

Sun.

> >

>

> > Narayana Dasa shows what the world want to give You and drsti

> > > on seventh bhava shows that relationship, buisness and travel

will be

> > > highlighted during that time.

> >

> > [sM] OK, so Visti ji's words regarding transformation of rajasic to

> > satwic wrt marriage/alliance work with this.

> >

> > See which of Jupiter or Mo/Ve are in

> > > Kendra/Kona to determine which Dasa will work better.

> >

> > [sM] None of the planets are in Kendra/Kona, so I am confused. Mo is

> > in the 2nd house and Ju, Ve are in the 8th house. Ve and Mo are in

> > Kendra in D9 though.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > email: rafal@

> > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > >

> > > supriti108 napisa?(a):

> > > >

> > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > >

> > > > Thank you for your response. I am still not clear on one

concept. I

> > > > would really appreciate it if you could clarify it for me.

> > > >

> > > > I am adding my details for this question. I have a few

parivartanas

> > > > in my chart. I am particularly refering to the exchange of 6th and

> > > > 7th lord. 7th house is my HL.

> > > >

> > > > Visti ji has said and I quote: " Here the parivartana

> > > > being between a good and an evil house must cause a good situation

> > > > (marriage) to turn sour (enmity). Later this will reverse

again where

> > > > a bitter situation (enmity) becomes the cause of a great

friendship.

> > > > Your inference about your Näräyaëa daçä is very correct. "

> > > >

> > > > My question, although I am coming up on Pi Narayana Dasa

(aspecting

> > > > 7th house), I am also going through Ma vimsottari dasa (placed

in 6th

> > > > house). How do I know which one will show its effects.

> > > >

> > > > My birth details:

> > > > September 18, 1970

> > > > Time: 17:48:30

> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > Place: 88 E 22' 00 " , 22 N 34' 00 "

> > > > Kolkata, India

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Supriti

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%

40. com>,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Supriti,

> > > > >

> > > > > We can use all dasas while timing activation of those kind of

> > > > Yogas.

> > > > > Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when the dasa of planet

> > > > posited

> > > > > in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This is opposite

for bad

> > > > bhava

> > > > > (dusthana/3H) .Sookshma Parivartana should be seen

especially from

> > > > > Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana refers to time of

> > > > > particular activities in life.

> > > > >

> > > > > Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is independent and this

'touch'

> > > > the

> > > > > native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL int that order).

> > > > >

> > > > > Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and this

should be

> > > > > especially seen when looking at Dasas for predicting events.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > >

> > > > > supriti108 napisa?(a):

> > > > > >

> > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > How do we time the transformation due to parivartana. Visti ji

> > > > > > mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there any other methods.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank you.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Supriti

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%

> > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Rafalji,

> > > > > > > What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and the 12th

> > > > > > > lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty. How to

> > > > > > > offset this lagna by remedial measures. The problem

> > > > > > > becomes compounded because the lagna lord is Venus

> > > > > > > with Taurus ascendant.

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Manoj

> > > > > > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather

> > > > > > > > Purna-Yoga which

> > > > > > > > cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if

> > > > > > > > L,LL, AL are involved).

> > > > > > > > One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or

> > > > > > > > rather should go).

> > > > > > > > Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture.

> > > > > > > > These kind of people

> > > > > > > > doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6

> > > > > > > > to Lagna).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanx so much again for ur response and further

> > > > > > > > elaboration, however

> > > > > > > > > i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put a

> > > > > > > > logic for Ma/coral

> > > > > > > > > or any other logic - my question is that by

> > > > > > > > exchnage if Ra is now in

> > > > > > > > > 9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka

> > > > > > > > sthana - and for Ra

> > > > > > > > > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence

> > > > > > > > was the question

> > > > > > > > > that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give the

> > > > > > > > stone or avoid it.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was using

> > > > > > > > this pg as the ref:

> > > > > > > > > http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/

> > > > > > > > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish-

> > > > > > > > > i.html

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in-

> > > > jyotish-

> > > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones-

> > > > in-jyotish-

> > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones-

in-jyotish->>

> > > > > > i.html>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by

> > > > > > > > what pg279 point 3) in

> > > > > > > > > VRA says.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > So probably Guru Mantra wud be better?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa

> > > > > > > > to arrive at the

> > > > > > > > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this

> > > > > > > > chart:

> > > > > > > > > http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/

> > > > > > > > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part-

> > > > > > > > > 1.pdf

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri-

Class-2-

> > > > Part-

> > > > > > 1.pdf

> > > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri-

> > Class-2-Part-

> > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri-

Class-2-Part->

> > > > 1.pdf>>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra

> > > > > > > > is also in ninth,

> > > > > > > > > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of the

> > > > > > > > latter factor?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given - but

> > > > > > > > wud not apply here

> > > > > > > > > since it is inimical to Me?

> > > > > > > > > Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra

> > > > > > > > recommended or do we go

> > > > > > > > > only for the lord of 9h for mantra?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on:

> > > > > > > > > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt

> > > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are

> > > > > > > > very bad and

> > > > > > > > > shows what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern

> > > > > > > > over Lagna being 6th

> > > > > > > > > from lagnesh.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanx again

> > > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com>,

> > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would

> > > > > > > > be in seventh bhava

> > > > > > > > > we

> > > > > > > > > > will perscribe Coral and everything will be

> > > > > > > > nice..No its not like

> > > > > > > > > that.

> > > > > > > > > > Please read VRA section about Gem perscription.

> > > > > > > > Yes, Ucchista

> > > > > > > > > Ganapati

> > > > > > > > > > worship is neccesary.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in

> > > > > > > > ninth) with Kamala

> > > > > > > > > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This will allow

> > > > > > > > to marry without

> > > > > > > > > delay.

> > > > > > > > > > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be

> > > > > > > > important to sustain

> > > > > > > > > marriage.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from

> > > > > > > > inheritance.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti,

> > > > > > > > interest in medicine

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and

> > > > > > > > will be strong

> > > > > > > > > warrior

> > > > > > > > > > and he can have buisness with printing books or

> > > > > > > > working with

> > > > > > > > > publishing.

> > > > > > > > > > He can also gain from occult and will be know as

> > > > > > > > sensitive and

> > > > > > > > > dynamic

> > > > > > > > > > person.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls

> > > > > > > > cud you explain

> > > > > > > > > what u

> > > > > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th

> > > > > > > > from Lagnesh wrt the

> > > > > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH

> > > > > > > > are very bad and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence

> > > > > > > > my concern over

> > > > > > > > > Lagna

> > > > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to

> > > > > > > > marriage, native shd not be

> > > > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another

> > > > > > > > mssg (sohamsa) - the

> > > > > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings,

> > > > > > > > silly mistakes in

> > > > > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after

> > > > > > > > wearing that stone

> > > > > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have

> > > > > > > > done him better to

> > > > > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h).

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or

> > > > > > > > wud u still suggest

> > > > > > > > > stone

> > > > > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve

> > > > > > > > are also in exchange

> > > > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence

> > > > > > > > the question.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne

> > > > > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > > > > > <sohamsa%

> > > > > > > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow

> > > > > > > > more dharma than

> > > > > > > > > > > occult. In

> > > > > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is

> > > > > > > > Sharada yoga per BPHS.

> > > > > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > > > > yoga

> > > > > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have

> > > > > > > > > > > > loose morals.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > === message truncated ===

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 29, 2007

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Charu,

Then this needs the activity of seventh

bhava..buisness..partner..spouse..travel etc. Its very good yoga.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

charu2250 napisał(a):

Dear Rafalji

Please would you elaborate on the shiva yoga you mention here? If 7th

lord with 9th lord in 6th house is shiva yoga which shows broadening

of knowledge specifically used for research, the what does that yoga

mean if it takes place in 7th house? Thank you

peace

charu

sohamsa@

..com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

>

> *hraum namah adityaya*

>

> Dear Supriti,

>

> I dont know what to comment here. Seventh lord with ninth lord is

Shiva

> Yoga which broaden knowledge, its blessing. If this is in sixth

bhava

> then this will be used for research (other kind than eight bhava)

and

> demands hard work to made it visible (9H from 10H). Buddha with

Malefic

> in sixth gives argumentation and often court cases.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

>

> supriti108 napisa?(a):

> >

> > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > Dear Rafal,

> >

> > My comments below.

> > Thank you for helping me understand this.

> > Regards

> > Supriti

> > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme@ ...>

wrote:

> > >

> > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > >

> > > Dear Supriti,

> > >

> > > So dasa of planet in sixth bhava is bad, it means

seperation and

> > > conflicts.

> >

> > [sM] How does this work with the parivartana. Ma is 2nd and

9th lord

> > in conjunction with 7th lord Me which is in exchange with 6th

lord

Sun.

> >

>

> > Narayana Dasa shows what the world want to give You and drsti

> > > on seventh bhava shows that relationship, buisness and

travel

will be

> > > highlighted during that time.

> >

> > [sM] OK, so Visti ji's words regarding transformation of

rajasic to

> > satwic wrt marriage/alliance work with this.

> >

> > See which of Jupiter or Mo/Ve are in

> > > Kendra/Kona to determine which Dasa will work better.

> >

> > [sM] None of the planets are in Kendra/Kona, so I am

confused. Mo is

> > in the 2nd house and Ju, Ve are in the 8th house. Ve and Mo

are in

> > Kendra in D9 though.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > email: rafal@

> > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > >

> > > supriti108 napisa?(a):

> > > >

> > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > >

> > > > Thank you for your response. I am still not clear

on one

concept. I

> > > > would really appreciate it if you could clarify it

for me.

> > > >

> > > > I am adding my details for this question. I have a

few

parivartanas

> > > > in my chart. I am particularly refering to the

exchange of 6th and

> > > > 7th lord. 7th house is my HL.

> > > >

> > > > Visti ji has said and I quote: "Here the parivartana

> > > > being between a good and an evil house must cause a

good situation

> > > > (marriage) to turn sour (enmity). Later this will

reverse

again where

> > > > a bitter situation (enmity) becomes the cause of a

great

friendship.

> > > > Your inference about your Näräyaëa daçä is very

correct."

> > > >

> > > > My question, although I am coming up on Pi Narayana

Dasa

(aspecting

> > > > 7th house), I am also going through Ma vimsottari

dasa (placed

in 6th

> > > > house). How do I know which one will show its

effects.

> > > >

> > > > My birth details:

> > > > September 18, 1970

> > > > Time: 17:48:30

> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > Place: 88 E 22' 00", 22 N 34' 00"

> > > > Kolkata, India

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Supriti

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%

40. com>,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Supriti,

> > > > >

> > > > > We can use all dasas while timing activation

of those kind of

> > > > Yogas.

> > > > > Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when

the dasa of planet

> > > > posited

> > > > > in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This

is opposite

for bad

> > > > bhava

> > > > > (dusthana/3H) .Sookshma Parivartana should be

seen

especially from

> > > > > Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana

refers to time of

> > > > > particular activities in life.

> > > > >

> > > > > Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is

independent and this

'touch'

> > > > the

> > > > > native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL

int that order).

> > > > >

> > > > > Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of

fortune and this

should be

> > > > > especially seen when looking at Dasas for

predicting events.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > >

> > > > > supriti108 napisa?(a):

> > > > > >

> > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > How do we time the transformation due to

parivartana. Visti ji

> > > > > > mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there

any other methods.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank you.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Supriti

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

<sohamsa%

> > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@

....>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Rafalji,

> > > > > > > What is the remedy for lagna lord in

12th and the 12th

> > > > > > > lord in lagna. This yoga gives

abject poverty. How to

> > > > > > > offset this lagna by remedial

measures. The problem

> > > > > > > becomes compounded because the lagna

lord is Venus

> > > > > > > with Taurus ascendant.

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Manoj

> > > > > > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@

....> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change

placement, its rather

> > > > > > > > Purna-Yoga which

> > > > > > > > cause reversal of fortune and

transformation (if

> > > > > > > > L,LL, AL are involved).

> > > > > > > > One good Devi Mantra will be

enough for the native.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then

one goes abroad (or

> > > > > > > > rather should go).

> > > > > > > > Sixth from it will be Lagna -

birthplace/culture.

> > > > > > > > These kind of people

> > > > > > > > doesnt like roots, but are very

good at fighting (6

> > > > > > > > to Lagna).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanx so much again for ur

response and further

> > > > > > > > elaboration, however

> > > > > > > > > i wud like to clarify that

i never meant to put a

> > > > > > > > logic for Ma/coral

> > > > > > > > > or any other logic - my

question is that by

> > > > > > > > exchnage if Ra is now in

> > > > > > > > > 9h, it will be considered

to be in marana-karaka

> > > > > > > > sthana - and for Ra

> > > > > > > > > in mks, then stone for Ju

is to be given - hence

> > > > > > > > was the question

> > > > > > > > > that Ju is badhaka in this

case - shd we give the

> > > > > > > > stone or avoid it.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I wud anticipate a no in

answer, since i was using

> > > > > > > > this pg as the ref:

> > > > > > > > > http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/

> > > > > > > > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish-

> > > > > > > > > i.html

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <http://varahamihira

..blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in-

> > > > jyotish-

> > > > > > <http://varahamihira

..blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones-

> > > > in-jyotish-

> > > > <http://varahamihira

..blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones-

in-jyotish-> >

> > > > > > i.html>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the same (Ju inimical to

lagnesh) also goes by

> > > > > > > > what pg279 point 3) in

> > > > > > > > > VRA says.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > So probably Guru Mantra

wud be better?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > and we wud also look at

nakshatra dispositing Sa

> > > > > > > > to arrive at the

> > > > > > > > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h

(Aq with Sa) for this

> > > > > > > > chart:

> > > > > > > > > http:// .org/sjc_

delhi/pdfs/

> > > > > > > > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part-

> > > > > > > > > 1.pdf

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <http://

..org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri-

Class-2-

> > > > Part-

> > > > > > 1.pdf

> > > > > > <http://

..org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri-

> > Class-2-Part-

> > > > <http://

..org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri-

Class-2-Part- >

> > > > 1.pdf>>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now Sa is in Ra's

nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra

> > > > > > > > is also in ninth,

> > > > > > > > > wud Durga Mantra be added,

maybe regardless of the

> > > > > > > > latter factor?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone

for Su can be given - but

> > > > > > > > wud not apply here

> > > > > > > > > since it is inimical to Me?

> > > > > > > > > Considering Ma in 9h - any

further mantra

> > > > > > > > recommended or do we go

> > > > > > > > > only for the lord of 9h

for mantra?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Also, Still awaiting any

elaboration on:

> > > > > > > > > ur mssg below re. 6th and

11th from Lagnesh wrt

> > > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > chart. "while sixth and

eleventh FROM LAGNESH are

> > > > > > > > very bad and

> > > > > > > > > shows what one sees as

RIPU" - hence my concern

> > > > > > > > over Lagna being 6th

> > > > > > > > > from lagnesh.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanx again

> > > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > sohamsa@

..com

> > > > > > > > <sohamsa%

40. com>,

> > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic

is like that: if Mars would

> > > > > > > > be in seventh bhava

> > > > > > > > > we

> > > > > > > > > > will perscribe Coral

and everything will be

> > > > > > > > nice..No its not like

> > > > > > > > > that.

> > > > > > > > > > Please read VRA

section about Gem perscription.

> > > > > > > > Yes, Ucchista

> > > > > > > > > Ganapati

> > > > > > > > > > worship is neccesary.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 2. I would rather

advise Devi worship (Sani in

> > > > > > > > ninth) with Kamala

> > > > > > > > > > Mahavidya (Venus

debiliatated) . This will allow

> > > > > > > > to marry without

> > > > > > > > > delay.

> > > > > > > > > > Then after that

Narayana Mantra will be

> > > > > > > > important to sustain

> > > > > > > > > marriage.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > He has 3 yogas which

shows gain from

> > > > > > > > inheritance.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > He will be quite

spiritual person with bhakti,

> > > > > > > > interest in medicine

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > good knowledge, but

can go easily into fight and

> > > > > > > > will be strong

> > > > > > > > > warrior

> > > > > > > > > > and he can have

buisness with printing books or

> > > > > > > > working with

> > > > > > > > > publishing.

> > > > > > > > > > He can also gain from

occult and will be know as

> > > > > > > > sensitive and

> > > > > > > > > dynamic

> > > > > > > > > > person.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center

Guru

> > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak

napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne

for ur explaination, however pls

> > > > > > > > cud you explain

> > > > > > > > > what u

> > > > > > > > > > > said in mssg

below to Asha re. 6th and 11th

> > > > > > > > from Lagnesh wrt the

> > > > > > > > > > > chart. "while

sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH

> > > > > > > > are very bad and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > shows

> > > what one sees as RIPU" - hence

> > > > > > > > my concern over

> > > > > > > > > Lagna

> > > > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh

- Ra u have explained.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is

causing such touble to

> > > > > > > > marriage, native shd not be

> > > > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye

- as i expressed in another

> > > > > > > > mssg (sohamsa) - the

> > > > > > > > > > > native was

facing problem like day-dreamings,

> > > > > > > > silly mistakes in

> > > > > > > > > > > studies etc.

which he says were reduced after

> > > > > > > > wearing that stone

> > > > > > > > > > > (hence my

amazement). Ganesha worship wud have

> > > > > > > > done him better to

> > > > > > > > > > > treat this Ke

(in 12h).

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Looks like no

stone is suitable for him, or

> > > > > > > > wud u still suggest

> > > > > > > > > stone

> > > > > > > > > > > for Ju

(considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve

> > > > > > > > are also in exchange

> > > > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is

badhaka for Ge lagna - hence

> > > > > > > > the question.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne

> > > > > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- In

sohamsa@ .com

> > > > > > > > <sohamsa%

> > > > > > > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum

namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul

Sadhak,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but

tendency will be also to follow

> > > > > > > > more dharma than

> > > > > > > > > > > occult. In

> > > > > > > > > > > > bhava

chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me

(kona placement to Me/Ju) is

> > > > > > > > Sharada yoga per BPHS.

> > > > > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > > > > yoga

> > > > > > > > > > > > is in

Upapada also so spouse can have

> > > > > > > > > > > > loose

morals.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > === message truncated ===

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

August 1, 2007

||Namah Shivaya||

Dear SS,

Mercury in 8H is considered a good position. Did you know that?

Best

Sharat

sohamsa , "Soul Sadhak" <soulsadhak wrote:>> Dear Bharat,> > Thanx a tonne for ur input. > The native was advised to donate greens (veggies) on Wednesdays - > perhaps due to Me being in 8h (dusthana), however the native on the > contrary likes green the best!> What wud be ur reason of advising Emerald - though what i see is it's > for lagna lord/yogakaraka (lord kendra+trine)...but am skeptical > about placement of the same in dusthana.> > brgds,> SS> > > sohamsa , "Bharat - Hindu Astrology" > astrologyhindu@ wrote:> >> > Namaste Sri Soul> > > > I hope I am not interrupting anything here. Rahu's dasha will bring > Sarala> > Yoga and vipreet raja yoga into action. However 9th house may > suffer but> > health should not except for minor ailments.> > > > Ketu being in Sun's nakshatra may harm the 9th house significations > even> > more. I won't advise this person to wear a cat's eye. If anything > needs to> > be done, then, it is worship of Surya Devta. Also, wear a Surya > numerical> > yantra.> > > > In Gemstones, an Emerald is likely to suit this person. The native > can wear> > it in gold as a ring or better still as a pendant on the heart > chakra.> > > > Thanks and Regards> > Bharat> > > > > > On 7/25/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Rafal,> > >> > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls cud you explain > what u> > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt the> > > chart. "while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and> > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU" - hence my concern over > Lagna> > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.> > >> > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to marriage, native shd not be> > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another mssg (sohamsa) - the> > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, silly mistakes in> > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after wearing that stone> > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have done him better to> > > treat this Ke (in 12h).> > >> > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or wud u still suggest > stone> > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve are also in exchange> > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence the question.> > >> > > Thanx a tonne> > > SS> > >> > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40>, Rafal > Gendarz> > > <starsuponme@> wrote:> > > >> > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > >> > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,> > > >> > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow more dharma than> > > occult. In> > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.> > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is Sharada yoga per BPHS. > This> > > yoga> > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have> > > > loose morals.> > > >> > > > 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in marriage until childbirth.> > > >> > > > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus? Comeon...> > > >> > > > 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement, and its in parivartana > with> > > > Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big enmity rises which will> > > afflict> > > > comforts and afflict native's rise & marriage life.> > > >> > > > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good ability in Jyotish> > > Vedanga.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal Gendarz> > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > > email: rafal@> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com> > > >> > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):> > > > >> > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > >> > > > > in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in 8h, Mo in 8h> > > (marana> > > > > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify delving into > occult.> > > > > Ke in 12h again native may want to look for moksha / > meditative> > > > > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now)> > > > >> > > > > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but Ke is in Ta > (weak),> > > > > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but there's exchange > b/w> > > Ju> > > > > and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats eye, will it be > good or> > > > > bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but wont it harm the> > > lagna> > > > > or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th from lagnesh > (and> > > > > Mo/chandra-rasi) ?> > > > >> > > > > Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the native may veiw> > > > > self/body/own intelligence/ perception as a punishment?> > > > > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify?> > > > >> > > > > birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar, india.> > > > > (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the discussion > seems> > > to be> > > > > in the direction that i am looking for - so u may skip ur > reply> > > > > there)> > > > >> > > > > Thanx a tonne,> > > > > SS> > > > >> > > > > vedic astrology> > > > > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz> > > > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Asha,> > > > > >> > > > > > Lets start with basics:> > > > > > ------------ --------- -----> > > > > >> > > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana)> > > > > >> > > > > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. This are> > > > > Oopachaya> > > > > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial (please > refer> > > my> > > > > > article about free will). Especially we see that fifth house> > > from> > > > > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of native (for> > > example> > > > > in> > > > > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord which > gives> > > > > occult> > > > > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad > and> > > > > shows> > > > > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to mantra and> > > faith> > > > > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning this > bhavas I> > > was> > > > > > referring to placement from Lagnesh.> > > > > >> > > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana)> > > > > >> > > > > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on platform > of> > > > > Dusthanas.> > > > > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha between dusthana> > > lord> > > > > and> > > > > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas depending on > being in> > > > > Sura or> > > > > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra eugolize > Buddha> > > & > > > > > Venus> > > > > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it gives > occult> > > > > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and secretive > nature,> > > > > advise> > > > > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in twelfth can > give> > > > > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is also > there -> > > > > Parasara)> > > > > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H).> > > > > >> > > > > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in reading > the> > > > > results.> > > > > >> > > > > > Hope it helps.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Rafal Gendarz> > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a):> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Rafal ji,> > > > > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and 12th?> > > > > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result> > > > > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result?> > > > > > > asha> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >

August 1, 2007

hraum

namah adityaya

Dear Sharat,

But not for lordship.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

Sharat napisał(a):

||Namah Shivaya||

Dear SS,

Mercury in 8H is considered a good position. Did you know that?

Best

Sharat

sohamsa@ .com, "Soul Sadhak" <soulsadhak@. ..>

wrote:

>

> Dear Bharat,

>

> Thanx a tonne for ur input.

> The native was advised to donate greens (veggies) on Wednesdays -

> perhaps due to Me being in 8h (dusthana), however the native on

the

> contrary likes green the best!

> What wud be ur reason of advising Emerald - though what i see is

it's

> for lagna lord/yogakaraka (lord kendra+trine) ...but am skeptical

> about placement of the same in dusthana.

>

> brgds,

> SS

>

> sohamsa@ .com, "Bharat - Hindu Astrology"

> astrologyhindu@ wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Sri Soul

> >

> > I hope I am not interrupting anything here. Rahu's dasha will

bring

> Sarala

> > Yoga and vipreet raja yoga into action. However 9th house may

> suffer but

> > health should not except for minor ailments.

> >

> > Ketu being in Sun's nakshatra may harm the 9th house

significations

> even

> > more. I won't advise this person to wear a cat's eye. If

anything

> needs to

> > be done, then, it is worship of Surya Devta. Also, wear a

Surya

> numerical

> > yantra.

> >

> > In Gemstones, an Emerald is likely to suit this person. The

native

> can wear

> > it in gold as a ring or better still as a pendant on the

heart

> chakra.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards

> > Bharat

> >

> > On 7/25/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rafal,

> > >

> > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls cud you

explain

> what u

> > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh

wrt the

> > > chart. "while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very

bad and

> > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU" -

hence my concern over

> Lagna

> > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.

> > >

> > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to marriage, native

shd not be

> > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another mssg

(sohamsa) - the

> > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, silly

mistakes in

> > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after wearing

that stone

> > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have done him

better to

> > > treat this Ke (in 12h).

> > >

> > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or wud u still

suggest

> stone

> > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve are also in

exchange

> > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence the

question.

> > >

> > > Thanx a tonne

> > > SS

> > >

> > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40grou

ps.com>, Rafal

> Gendarz

> > > <starsuponme@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > >

> > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > >

> > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow more

dharma than

> > > occult. In

> > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.

> > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is Sharada

yoga per BPHS.

> This

> > > yoga

> > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have

> > > > loose morals.

> > > >

> > > > 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in marriage until

childbirth.

> > > >

> > > > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus? Comeon...

> > > >

> > > > 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement, and its in

parivartana

> with

> > > > Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big enmity rises

which will

> > > afflict

> > > > comforts and afflict native's rise & marriage

life.

> > > >

> > > > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good ability

in Jyotish

> > > Vedanga.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > email: rafal@

> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > >

> > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > >

> > > > > in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is

in 8h, Mo in 8h

> > > (marana

> > > > > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify

delving into

> occult.

> > > > > Ke in 12h again native may want to look for

moksha /

> meditative

> > > > > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now)

> > > > >

> > > > > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but

Ke is in Ta

> (weak),

> > > > > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but

there's exchange

> b/w

> > > Ju

> > > > > and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats

eye, will it be

> good or

> > > > > bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but

wont it harm the

> > > lagna

> > > > > or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th

from lagnesh

> (and

> > > > > Mo/chandra-rasi) ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the

native may veiw

> > > > > self/body/own intelligence/ perception as a

punishment?

> > > > > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify?

> > > > >

> > > > > birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar,

india.

> > > > > (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the

discussion

> seems

> > > to be

> > > > > in the direction that i am looking for - so u

may skip ur

> reply

> > > > > there)

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanx a tonne,

> > > > > SS

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40.

com>, Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Asha,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lets start with basics:

> > > > > > ------------ --------- -----

> > > > > >

> > > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda

and Hara. This are

> > > > > Oopachaya

> > > > > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in

natural zodial (please

> refer

> > > my

> > > > > > article about free will). Especially we

see that fifth house

> > > from

> > > > > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows

likings of native (for

> > > example

> > > > > in

> > > > > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as

Karana Lord which

> gives

> > > > > occult

> > > > > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM

LAGNESH are very bad

> and

> > > > > shows

> > > > > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also

problem to mantra and

> > > faith

> > > > > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while

mentioning this

> bhavas I

> > > was

> > > > > > referring to placement from Lagnesh.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we

move on platform

> of

> > > > > Dusthanas.

> > > > > > Now this depends on placement and

sambandha between dusthana

> > > lord

> > > > > and

> > > > > > Lagnesh, and also about category of

grahas depending on

> being in

> > > > > Sura or

> > > > > > Asura group, therefore You will see that

Sastra eugolize

> Buddha

> > > &

> > > > > Venus

> > > > > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is

in eight it gives

> occult

> > > > > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude

and secretive

> nature,

> > > > > advise

> > > > > > for these people are to go abroad.

Lagnesh in twelfth can

> give

> > > > > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when

Shukra is also

> there -

> > > > > Parasara)

> > > > > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER

PRIORITY in reading

> the

> > > > > results.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hope it helps.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a):

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rafal ji,

> > > > > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what

about 8th and 12th?

> > > > > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats

the result

> > > > > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the

result?

> > > > > > > asha

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have

been removed]

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

August 1, 2007

Namaste Sri Soul8th house is where Mercury flourishes. It is also the Yogi. It is in a powerful navamsha and in Mars's nakshatra and helps in overcoming the problems faced in 9th house. Thanks and Regards

BharatOn 8/1/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote:

Dear Bharat,

Thanx a tonne for ur input.

The native was advised to donate greens (veggies) on Wednesdays -

perhaps due to Me being in 8h (dusthana), however the native on the

contrary likes green the best!

What wud be ur reason of advising Emerald - though what i see is it's

for lagna lord/yogakaraka (lord kendra+trine)...but am skeptical

about placement of the same in dusthana.

brgds,

SS

sohamsa , " Bharat - Hindu Astrology "

<astrologyhindu wrote:

>

> Namaste Sri Soul

>

> I hope I am not interrupting anything here. Rahu's dasha will bring

Sarala

> Yoga and vipreet raja yoga into action. However 9th house may

suffer but

> health should not except for minor ailments.

>

> Ketu being in Sun's nakshatra may harm the 9th house significations

even

> more. I won't advise this person to wear a cat's eye. If anything

needs to

> be done, then, it is worship of Surya Devta. Also, wear a Surya

numerical

> yantra.

>

> In Gemstones, an Emerald is likely to suit this person. The native

can wear

> it in gold as a ring or better still as a pendant on the heart

chakra.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

> On 7/25/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rafal,

> >

> > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls cud you explain

what u

> > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt the

> > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and

> > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern over

Lagna

> > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.

> >

> > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to marriage, native shd not be

> > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another mssg (sohamsa) - the

> > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, silly mistakes in

> > studies etc. which he says were reduced after wearing that stone

> > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have done him better to

> > treat this Ke (in 12h).

> >

> > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or wud u still suggest

stone

> > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve are also in exchange

> > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence the question.

> >

> > Thanx a tonne

> > SS

> >

> > sohamsa <sohamsa%40gro

ups.com>, Rafal

Gendarz

> > <starsuponme@> wrote:

> > >

> > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > >

> > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > >

> > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow more dharma than

> > occult. In

> > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.

> > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is Sharada yoga per BPHS.

This

> > yoga

> > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have

> > > loose morals.

> > >

> > > 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in marriage until childbirth.

> > >

> > > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus? Comeon...

> > >

> > > 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement, and its in parivartana

with

> > > Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big enmity rises which will

> > afflict

> > > comforts and afflict native's rise & marriage life.

> > >

> > > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good ability in Jyotish

> > Vedanga.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > email: rafal@

> > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

> > >

> > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > >

> > > > in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in 8h, Mo in 8h

> > (marana

> > > > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify delving into

occult.

> > > > Ke in 12h again native may want to look for moksha /

meditative

> > > > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now)

> > > >

> > > > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but Ke is in Ta

(weak),

> > > > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but there's exchange

b/w

> > Ju

> > > > and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats eye, will it be

good or

> > > > bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but wont it harm the

> > lagna

> > > > or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th from lagnesh

(and

> > > > Mo/chandra-rasi) ?

> > > >

> > > > Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the native may veiw

> > > > self/body/own intelligence/ perception as a punishment?

> > > > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify?

> > > >

> > > > birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar, india.

> > > > (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the discussion

seems

> > to be

> > > > in the direction that i am looking for - so u may skip ur

reply

> > > > there)

> > > >

> > > > Thanx a tonne,

> > > > SS

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology

> > > > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz

> > > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Asha,

> > > > >

> > > > > Lets start with basics:

> > > > > ------------ --------- -----

> > > > >

> > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana)

> > > > >

> > > > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. This are

> > > > Oopachaya

> > > > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial (please

refer

> > my

> > > > > article about free will). Especially we see that fifth house

> > from

> > > > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of native (for

> > example

> > > > in

> > > > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord which

gives

> > > > occult

> > > > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad

and

> > > > shows

> > > > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to mantra and

> > faith

> > > > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning this

bhavas I

> > was

> > > > > referring to placement from Lagnesh.

> > > > >

> > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana)

> > > > >

> > > > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on platform

of

> > > > Dusthanas.

> > > > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha between dusthana

> > lord

> > > > and

> > > > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas depending on

being in

> > > > Sura or

> > > > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra eugolize

Buddha

> > &

> > > > Venus

> > > > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it gives

occult

> > > > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and secretive

nature,

> > > > advise

> > > > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in twelfth can

give

> > > > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is also

there -

> > > > Parasara)

> > > > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H).

> > > > >

> > > > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in reading

the

> > > > results.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hope it helps.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > >

> > > > > ASHA napisa?(a):

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rafal ji,

> > > > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and 12th?

> > > > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result

> > > > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result?

> > > > > > asha

> > > > > >

> > > > >

August 1, 2007

||Namah Shivaya||

Dear Rafal,

Yes, thanks for catching that.

Best

Sharatsohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:>> *hraum namah adityaya*> > Dear Sharat,> > But not for lordship.> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> Sri Jagannath Center Guru> email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com> > > Sharat napisa?(a):> >> > ||Namah Shivaya||> >> > Dear SS,> >> > Mercury in 8H is considered a good position. Did you know that?> >> > Best> >> > Sharat> >> >> > sohamsa@ .com, "Soul Sadhak" soulsadhak@ ..> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bharat,> > >> > > Thanx a tonne for ur input.> > > The native was advised to donate greens (veggies) on Wednesdays -> > > perhaps due to Me being in 8h (dusthana), however the native on the> > > contrary likes green the best!> > > What wud be ur reason of advising Emerald - though what i see is it's> > > for lagna lord/yogakaraka (lord kendra+trine) ...but am skeptical> > > about placement of the same in dusthana.> > >> > > brgds,> > > SS> > >> > >> > > sohamsa@ .com, "Bharat - Hindu Astrology"> > > astrologyhindu@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Namaste Sri Soul> > > >> > > > I hope I am not interrupting anything here. Rahu's dasha will bring> > > Sarala> > > > Yoga and vipreet raja yoga into action. However 9th house may> > > suffer but> > > > health should not except for minor ailments.> > > >> > > > Ketu being in Sun's nakshatra may harm the 9th house significations> > > even> > > > more. I won't advise this person to wear a cat's eye. If anything> > > needs to> > > > be done, then, it is worship of Surya Devta. Also, wear a Surya> > > numerical> > > > yantra.> > > >> > > > In Gemstones, an Emerald is likely to suit this person. The native> > > can wear> > > > it in gold as a ring or better still as a pendant on the heart> > > chakra.> > > >> > > > Thanks and Regards> > > > Bharat> > > >> > > >> > > > On 7/25/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > >> > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls cud you explain> > > what u> > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt the> > > > > chart. "while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and> > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU" - hence my concern over> > > Lagna> > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.> > > > >> > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to marriage, native shd not be> > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another mssg (sohamsa) - the> > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, silly mistakes in> > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after wearing that stone> > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have done him better to> > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h).> > > > >> > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or wud u still suggest> > > stone> > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve are also in exchange> > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence the question.> > > > >> > > > > Thanx a tonne> > > > > SS> > > > >> > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40grou ps.com>, Rafal> > > Gendarz> > > > > <starsuponme@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,> > > > > >> > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow more dharma than> > > > > occult. In> > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.> > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is Sharada yoga per BPHS.> > > This> > > > > yoga> > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have> > > > > > loose morals.> > > > > >> > > > > > 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in marriage until childbirth.> > > > > >> > > > > > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus? Comeon...> > > > > >> > > > > > 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement, and its in parivartana> > > with> > > > > > Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big enmity rises which will> > > > > afflict> > > > > > comforts and afflict native's rise & marriage life.> > > > > >> > > > > > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good ability in Jyotish> > > > > Vedanga.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Rafal Gendarz> > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > > >> > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in 8h, Mo in 8h> > > > > (marana> > > > > > > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify delving into> > > occult.> > > > > > > Ke in 12h again native may want to look for moksha /> > > meditative> > > > > > > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now)> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but Ke is in Ta> > > (weak),> > > > > > > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but there's exchange> > > b/w> > > > > Ju> > > > > > > and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats eye, will it be> > > good or> > > > > > > bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but wont it harm the> > > > > lagna> > > > > > > or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th from lagnesh> > > (and> > > > > > > Mo/chandra-rasi) ?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the native may veiw> > > > > > > self/body/own intelligence/ perception as a punishment?> > > > > > > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar, india.> > > > > > > (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the discussion> > > seems> > > > > to be> > > > > > > in the direction that i am looking for - so u may skip ur> > > reply> > > > > > > there)> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanx a tonne,> > > > > > > SS> > > > > > >> > > > > > > vedic astrology> > > > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, Rafal Gendarz> > > > > > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Asha,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Lets start with basics:> > > > > > > > ------------ --------- -----> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana)> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. This are> > > > > > > Oopachaya> > > > > > > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial (please> > > refer> > > > > my> > > > > > > > article about free will). Especially we see that fifth house> > > > > from> > > > > > > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of native (for> > > > > example> > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord which> > > gives> > > > > > > occult> > > > > > > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad> > > and> > > > > > > shows> > > > > > > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to mantra and> > > > > faith> > > > > > > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning this> > > bhavas I> > > > > was> > > > > > > > referring to placement from Lagnesh.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana)> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on platform> > > of> > > > > > > Dusthanas.> > > > > > > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha between dusthana> > > > > lord> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas depending on> > > being in> > > > > > > Sura or> > > > > > > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra eugolize> > > Buddha> > > > > & > > > > > > > Venus> > > > > > > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it gives> > > occult> > > > > > > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and secretive> > > nature,> > > > > > > advise> > > > > > > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in twelfth can> > > give> > > > > > > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is also> > > there -> > > > > > > Parasara)> > > > > > > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H).> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in reading> > > the> > > > > > > results.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hope it helps.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz> > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > > > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a):> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Rafal ji,> > > > > > > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and 12th?> > > > > > > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result> > > > > > > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result?> > > > > > > > > asha> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >

August 2, 2007

hraum namah adityaya

Dear SS,

If you have malefcics in dusthana then its good because they are not in

place of support and wishes, but if they are strong then they can give

court cases and hostility. Now we ve been taught that Asura Grahas

dwell well in Randhr bhava while Sura ones in second bhava, but still

if tenth lord is in eight then it is Duryoga, but there will be no so

much suffering like with Sura being in eight bhava. Its connected to

Mandara Mountain.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

Rohinaa ashram: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl

Soul Sadhak napisał(a):

Dear Rafal and Sharat,

thanx again, but what is meant by "not good for lordship" does it

mean

a. not good for the hs it lords when placed in 8h - as in this

native's chart

or

b. does it mean that Me lording 8h is not good - as in my chart L-8

in 12h

Thanx a tonne

SS

sohamsa@

..com, "Sharat" <gidoc wrote:

>

> ||Namah Shivaya||

>

> Dear Rafal,

>

> Yes, thanks for catching that.

>

> Best

>

> Sharat

> sohamsa@

..com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > wrote:

> >

> > *hraum namah adityaya*

> >

> > Dear Sharat,

> >

> > But not for lordship.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rafal Gendarz

> > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > email: rafal@

> > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> >

> > Sharat napisa?(a):

> > >

> > > ||Namah Shivaya||

> > >

> > > Dear SS,

> > >

> > > Mercury in 8H is considered a good position. Did you

know that?

> > >

> > > Best

> > >

> > > Sharat

> > >

> > > sohamsa@ .com, "Soul Sadhak"

soulsadhak@ ..>

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bharat,

> > > >

> > > > Thanx a tonne for ur input.

> > > > The native was advised to donate greens (veggies)

on

Wednesdays -

> > > > perhaps due to Me being in 8h (dusthana), however

the native

on

> the

> > > > contrary likes green the best!

> > > > What wud be ur reason of advising Emerald - though

what i see

is

> it's

> > > > for lagna lord/yogakaraka (lord kendra+trine)

....but am

skeptical

> > > > about placement of the same in dusthana.

> > > >

> > > > brgds,

> > > > SS

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa@ .com, "Bharat - Hindu

Astrology"

> > > > astrologyhindu@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste Sri Soul

> > > > >

> > > > > I hope I am not interrupting anything here.

Rahu's dasha

will

> bring

> > > > Sarala

> > > > > Yoga and vipreet raja yoga into action.

However 9th house

may

> > > > suffer but

> > > > > health should not except for minor ailments.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ketu being in Sun's nakshatra may harm the 9th

house

> significations

> > > > even

> > > > > more. I won't advise this person to wear a

cat's eye. If

> anything

> > > > needs to

> > > > > be done, then, it is worship of Surya Devta.

Also, wear a

Surya

> > > > numerical

> > > > > yantra.

> > > > >

> > > > > In Gemstones, an Emerald is likely to suit

this person. The

> native

> > > > can wear

> > > > > it in gold as a ring or better still as a

pendant on the

heart

> > > > chakra.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > Bharat

> > > > >

> > > > > On 7/25/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination,

however pls cud you

explain

> > > > what u

> > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and

11th from Lagnesh

wrt

> the

> > > > > > chart. "while sixth and eleventh FROM

LAGNESH are very

bad and

> > > > > > > > shows > > > what one

sees as RIPU" - hence my concern

over

> > > > Lagna

> > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to

marriage, native

shd not

> be

> > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in

another mssg

(sohamsa) -

> the

> > > > > > native was facing problem like

day-dreamings, silly

mistakes

> in

> > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced

after wearing that

> stone

> > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud

have done him

better

> to

> > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him,

or wud u still

> suggest

> > > > stone

> > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) -

Ju-Ve are also in

> exchange

> > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna -

hence the question.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanx a tonne

> > > > > > SS

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

<sohamsa%40gro u

ps.com>,

> Rafal

> > > > Gendarz

> > > > > > <starsuponme@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to

follow more dharma

than

> > > > > > occult. In

> > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in

ninth.

> > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju)

is Sharada yoga per

> BPHS.

> > > > This

> > > > > > yoga

> > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have

> > > > > > > loose morals.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in

marriage until

> childbirth.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus?

Comeon...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha

placement, and its in

> parivartana

> > > > with

> > > > > > > Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and

big enmity rises

which

> will

> > > > > > afflict

> > > > > > > comforts and afflict native's rise

& marriage life.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very

good ability in

Jyotish

> > > > > > Vedanga.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > in the chart undermentioned,

Lagnesh (Me) is in 8h,

Mo in

> 8h

> > > > > > (marana

> > > > > > > > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in

8h wud signify delving

into

> > > > occult.

> > > > > > > > Ke in 12h again native may want

to look for moksha /

> > > > meditative

> > > > > > > > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20

for now)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as

u said), but Ke is in

Ta

> > > > (weak),

> > > > > > > > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju

aspects 9h (but there's

> exchange

> > > > b/w

> > > > > > Ju

> > > > > > > > and Ve too) - now if the native

wears cats eye, will

it be

> > > > good or

> > > > > > > > bad - good from spiritual point

of veiw - but wont it

harm

> the

> > > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > > or wud it be beneficieal to

lagnesh, being 5th from

> lagnesh

> > > > (and

> > > > > > > > Mo/chandra-rasi) ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lagna itself comes 6th to

lagnesh, so the native may

veiw

> > > > > > > > self/body/own intelligence/

perception as a

punishment?

> > > > > > > > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from

lagnesh signify?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > birth details: 9th/mar/94,

12:53pm, amritsar, india.

> > > > > > > > (have posted this at sohamsa

too, but here the

discussion

> > > > seems

> > > > > > to be

> > > > > > > > in the direction that i am

looking for - so u may

skip ur

> > > > reply

> > > > > > > > there)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne,

> > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > vedic astrology@

. com

> > > > > > > > <vedic- astrology%

40. com>, Rafal

> Gendarz

> > > > > > > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Asha,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lets start with basics:

> > > > > > > > > ------------ ---------

-----

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH

(Upachaya Sthana)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sixth and eleventh are

houses of Danda and Hara.

This

> are

> > > > > > > > Oopachaya

> > > > > > > > > house lorded by Buddha and

Sani in natural zodial

> (please

> > > > refer

> > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > article about free will).

Especially we see that

fifth

> house

> > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > Lagnesh is very beneficial

and shows likings of

native

> (for

> > > > > > example

> > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > my chart its Chandra in

eight bhava as Karana Lord

which

> > > > gives

> > > > > > > > occult

> > > > > > > > > vidya), while sixth and

eleventh FROM LAGNESH are

very

> bad

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > shows

> > > > > > > > > what one sees as RIPU.

This gives also problem to

mantra

> and

> > > > > > faith

> > > > > > > > > (maraka from mantra-bhava)

.. So while mentioning

this

> > > > bhavas I

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > referring to placement

from Lagnesh.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH

(Dus-sthana)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now if we talk about eight

and twelfth we move on

> platform

> > > > of

> > > > > > > > Dusthanas.

> > > > > > > > > Now this depends on

placement and sambandha between

> dusthana

> > > > > > lord

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > Lagnesh, and also about

category of grahas

depending on

> > > > being in

> > > > > > > > Sura or

> > > > > > > > > Asura group, therefore You

will see that Sastra

eugolize

> > > > Buddha

> > > > > > &

> > > > > > > > Venus

> > > > > > > > > position in Randhrabhava.

If lagnesh is in eight it

> gives

> > > > occult

> > > > > > > > > knowledge (Parasara),

hazardous attitude and

secretive

> > > > nature,

> > > > > > > > advise

> > > > > > > > > for these people are to go

abroad. Lagnesh in

twelfth

> can

> > > > give

> > > > > > > > > sacrificing/ donating

nature (esp when Shukra is

also

> > > > there -

> > > > > > > > Parasara)

> > > > > > > > > but also quarrelsome

tendency (asp on 6H).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Of course other factors

can have HIGHER PRIORITY in

> reading

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > results.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hope it helps.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Rafal ji,

> > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh in 6th and

11th is bad-what about 8th and

> 12th?

> > > > > > > > > > if lagnesh is placed

in 8th whats the result

> > > > > > > > > > and if lagnesh is in

12th whats the result?

> > > > > > > > > > asha

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this

message have been

removed]

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

August 2, 2007

Namaste Sri SoulWhat is causing the significations to suffer - Is it Mercury or its adverse placement? Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 8/2/07,

Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote:

Thanx again Bharat,

but wud'nt the signifactions of 1h and 4h get adversely affected simultaneously?

brgds,

SS

sohamsa , " Bharat - Hindu Astrology " <astrologyhindu wrote:>> Namaste Sri Soul

> > 8th house is where Mercury flourishes. It is also the Yogi. It is in a> powerful navamsha and in Mars's nakshatra and helps in overcoming the> problems faced in 9th house.

> > Thanks and Regards> Bharat> > On 8/1/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak wrote:> >> > Dear Bharat,> >> > Thanx a tonne for ur input.

> > The native was advised to donate greens (veggies) on Wednesdays -> > perhaps due to Me being in 8h (dusthana), however the native on the> > contrary likes green the best!> > What wud be ur reason of advising Emerald - though what i see is it's

> > for lagna lord/yogakaraka (lord kendra+trine)...but am skeptical> > about placement of the same in dusthana.> >> > brgds,> > SS> >> > sohamsa <sohamsa%40>, " Bharat -

> > Hindu Astrology " > > astrologyhindu@ wrote:> > >> > > Namaste Sri Soul> > >> > > I hope I am not interrupting anything here. Rahu's dasha will bring

> > Sarala> > > Yoga and vipreet raja yoga into action. However 9th house may> > suffer but> > > health should not except for minor ailments.> > >> > > Ketu being in Sun's nakshatra may harm the 9th house significations

> > even> > > more. I won't advise this person to wear a cat's eye. If anything> > needs to> > > be done, then, it is worship of Surya Devta. Also, wear a Surya> > numerical

> > > yantra.> > >> > > In Gemstones, an Emerald is likely to suit this person. The native> > can wear> > > it in gold as a ring or better still as a pendant on the heart

> > chakra.> > >> > > Thanks and Regards> > > Bharat> > >> > >> > > On 7/25/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote:> > > >

> > > > Dear Rafal,> > > >> > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls cud you explain> > what u> > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt the

> > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and> > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern over> > Lagna> > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.

> > > >> > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to marriage, native shd not be> > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another mssg (sohamsa) - the> > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, silly mistakes in

> > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after wearing that stone> > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have done him better to> > > > treat this Ke (in 12h).

> > > >> > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or wud u still suggest> > stone> > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve are also in exchange

> > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence the question.> > > >> > > > Thanx a tonne> > > > SS> > > >> > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40><sohamsa%40gro

> > ups.com>, Rafal> >> > Gendarz> > > > <starsuponme@> wrote:

> > > > >> > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > >> > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,> > > > >> > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow more dharma than

> > > > occult. In> > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.> > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is Sharada yoga per BPHS.> > This> > > > yoga

> > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have> > > > > loose morals.> > > > >> > > > > 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in marriage until childbirth.

> > > > >> > > > > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus? Comeon...> > > > >> > > > > 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement, and its in parivartana

> > with> > > > > Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big enmity rises which will> > > > afflict> > > > > comforts and afflict native's rise & marriage life.

> > > > >> > > > > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good ability in Jyotish> > > > Vedanga.> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com> > > > >

> > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > > >> > > > > > in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in 8h, Mo in 8h

> > > > (marana> > > > > > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify delving into> > occult.> > > > > > Ke in 12h again native may want to look for moksha /

> > meditative> > > > > > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now)> > > > > >> > > > > > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but Ke is in Ta

> > (weak),> > > > > > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but there's exchange> > b/w> > > > Ju> > > > > > and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats eye, will it be

> > good or> > > > > > bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but wont it harm the> > > > lagna> > > > > > or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th from lagnesh

> > (and> > > > > > Mo/chandra-rasi) ?> > > > > >> > > > > > Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the native may veiw> > > > > > self/body/own intelligence/ perception as a punishment?

> > > > > > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify?> > > > > >> > > > > > birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar, india.> > > > > > (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the discussion

> > seems> > > > to be> > > > > > in the direction that i am looking for - so u may skip ur> > reply> > > > > > there)> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanx a tonne,> > > > > > SS> > > > > >> > > > > > vedic astrology> > > > > > <

vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz> > > > > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Asha,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Lets start with basics:

> > > > > > > ------------ --------- -----> > > > > > >> > > > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana)> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. This are> > > > > > Oopachaya> > > > > > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial (please

> > refer> > > > my> > > > > > > article about free will). Especially we see that fifth house> > > > from> > > > > > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of native (for

> > > > example> > > > > > in> > > > > > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord which> > gives> > > > > > occult

> > > > > > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad> > and> > > > > > shows> > > > > > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to mantra and

> > > > faith> > > > > > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning this> > bhavas I> > > > was> > > > > > > referring to placement from Lagnesh.

> > > > > > >> > > > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana)> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on platform

> > of> > > > > > Dusthanas.> > > > > > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha between dusthana> > > > lord> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas depending on> > being in> > > > > > Sura or> > > > > > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra eugolize

> > Buddha> > > > & > > > > > > Venus> > > > > > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it gives> > occult> > > > > > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and secretive

> > nature,> > > > > > advise> > > > > > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in twelfth can> > give> > > > > > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is also

> > there -> > > > > > Parasara)> > > > > > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H).> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in reading

> > the> > > > > > results.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Hope it helps.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz> > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a):> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rafal ji,> > > > > > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and 12th?> > > > > > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result

> > > > > > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result?> > > > > > > > asha> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >

August 2, 2007

hraum namah adityaya

Dear SS, Namaskar

8H in D4 afflicts comforts. Lagnesh in eight gives knowledge of occult

and hazardous mentality per Parasara. If malefic is there it can hamper

longevity (Sani for sure) or gives ilness, if there is kona lord then

Raja Yoga (laksmi or raja) will come in abnormal or shortlasted

situation. Nakshatra lord of Moon will tell how long..

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

Rohinaa ashram: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl

Soul Sadhak napisał(a):

Dear Rafal,

Then Me as L-1 and L-4 in 8h will damage 1h and 4h signifactions?

Thanx a tonne

SS

sohamsa@

..com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

>

> *hraum namah adityaya*

>

> Dear SS,

>

> If you have malefcics in dusthana then its good because they are

not in

> place of support and wishes, but if they are strong then they can

give

> court cases and hostility. Now we ve been taught that Asura Grahas

dwell

> well in Randhr bhava while Sura ones in second bhava, but still if

tenth

> lord is in eight then it is Duryoga, but there will be no so much

> suffering like with Sura being in eight bhava. Its connected to

Mandara

> Mountain.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> Rohinaa ashram: http://www.rohinaa.

fora.pl

>

> Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> >

> > Dear Rafal and Sharat,

> >

> > thanx again, but what is meant by "not good for lordship"

does it

> > mean

> >

> > a. not good for the hs it lords when placed in 8h - as in this

> > native's chart

> >

> > or

> >

> > b. does it mean that Me lording 8h is not good - as in my

chart L-

8

> > in 12h

> >

> > Thanx a tonne

> > SS

> >

> > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%

40. com>,

> > "Sharat" <gidoc@> wrote:

> > >

> > > ||Namah Shivaya||

> > >

> > > Dear Rafal,

> > >

> > > Yes, thanks for catching that.

> > >

> > > Best

> > >

> > > Sharat

> > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%

40. com>,

> > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sharat,

> > > >

> > > > But not for lordship.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > email: rafal@

> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > >

> > > > Sharat napisa?(a):

> > > > >

> > > > > ||Namah Shivaya||

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear SS,

> > > > >

> > > > > Mercury in 8H is considered a good position.

Did you know

that?

> > > > >

> > > > > Best

> > > > >

> > > > > Sharat

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "Soul Sadhak"

soulsadhak@ ..>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Bharat,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanx a tonne for ur input.

> > > > > > The native was advised to donate greens

(veggies) on

> > Wednesdays -

> > > > > > perhaps due to Me being in 8h (dusthana),

however the

native

> > on

> > > the

> > > > > > contrary likes green the best!

> > > > > > What wud be ur reason of advising Emerald

- though what i

see

> > is

> > > it's

> > > > > > for lagna lord/yogakaraka (lord

kendra+trine) ...but am

> > skeptical

> > > > > > about placement of the same in dusthana.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > brgds,

> > > > > > SS

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "Bharat

- Hindu

Astrology"

> > > > > > astrologyhindu@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaste Sri Soul

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I hope I am not interrupting

anything here. Rahu's dasha

> > will

> > > bring

> > > > > > Sarala

> > > > > > > Yoga and vipreet raja yoga into

action. However 9th

house

> > may

> > > > > > suffer but

> > > > > > > health should not except for minor

ailments.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ketu being in Sun's nakshatra may

harm the 9th house

> > > significations

> > > > > > even

> > > > > > > more. I won't advise this person to

wear a cat's eye. If

> > > anything

> > > > > > needs to

> > > > > > > be done, then, it is worship of

Surya Devta. Also, wear

a

> > Surya

> > > > > > numerical

> > > > > > > yantra.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In Gemstones, an Emerald is likely

to suit this person.

The

> > > native

> > > > > > can wear

> > > > > > > it in gold as a ring or better still

as a pendant on the

> > heart

> > > > > > chakra.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > > > Bharat

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 7/25/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@

wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur

explaination, however pls cud you

> > explain

> > > > > > what u

> > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re.

6th and 11th from

Lagnesh

> > wrt

> > > the

> > > > > > > > chart. "while sixth and

eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very

> > bad and

> > > > > > > > > > shows > > >

what one sees as RIPU" - hence my

concern

> > over

> > > > > > Lagna

> > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have

explained.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such

touble to marriage, native

> > shd not

> > > be

> > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i

expressed in another mssg

> > (sohamsa) -

> > > the

> > > > > > > > native was facing problem like

day-dreamings, silly

> > mistakes

> > > in

> > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were

reduced after wearing

that

> > > stone

> > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha

worship wud have done

him

> > better

> > > to

> > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable

for him, or wud u

still

> > > suggest

> > > > > > stone

> > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma

exchange?) - Ju-Ve are also

in

> > > exchange

> > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge

lagna - hence the

question.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne

> > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

<sohamsa%40gro u

> > ps.com>,

> > > Rafal

> > > > > > Gendarz

> > > > > > > > <starsuponme@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will

be also to follow more

dharma

> > than

> > > > > > > > occult. In

> > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra

Lagnesh is in ninth.

> > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement

to Me/Ju) is Sharada

yoga per

> > > BPHS.

> > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > yoga

> > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so

spouse can have

> > > > > > > > > loose morals.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 2. Ke in twelfth gives

arguments in marriage until

> > > childbirth.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord?

Shad ripus? Comeon...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 4. Ra here is in

Ayur-uccha placement, and its in

> > > parivartana

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > Mangal so Fortune gets

spoiled and big enmity rises

> > which

> > > will

> > > > > > > > afflict

> > > > > > > > > comforts and afflict

native's rise & marriage life.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna

gives very good ability in

> > Jyotish

> > > > > > > > Vedanga.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > in the chart

undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in

8h,

> > Mo in

> > > 8h

> > > > > > > > (marana

> > > > > > > > > > karaka sthana) - Me

and Mo in 8h wud signify

delving

> > into

> > > > > > occult.

> > > > > > > > > > Ke in 12h again

native may want to look for

moksha /

> > > > > > meditative

> > > > > > > > > > tendency? (skipping

nav/d-20 for now)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Ke 5th from Lagnesh

(likings as u said), but Ke

is in

> > Ta

> > > > > > (weak),

> > > > > > > > > > aspecting Ju from 5h

and Ju aspects 9h (but

there's

> > > exchange

> > > > > > b/w

> > > > > > > > Ju

> > > > > > > > > > and Ve too) - now if

the native wears cats eye,

will

> > it be

> > > > > > good or

> > > > > > > > > > bad - good from

spiritual point of veiw - but

wont it

> > harm

> > > the

> > > > > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > > > > or wud it be

beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th

from

> > > lagnesh

> > > > > > (and

> > > > > > > > > > Mo/chandra-rasi) ?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Lagna itself comes

6th to lagnesh, so the native

may

> > veiw

> > > > > > > > > > self/body/own

intelligence/ perception as a

> > punishment?

> > > > > > > > > > what wud Ra (in Sc)

11th from lagnesh signify?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > birth details:

9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar,

india.

> > > > > > > > > > (have posted this at

sohamsa too, but here the

> > discussion

> > > > > > seems

> > > > > > > > to be

> > > > > > > > > > in the direction that

i am looking for - so u may

> > skip ur

> > > > > > reply

> > > > > > > > > > there)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne,

> > > > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- In

vedic astrology

> > > > > > > > > > <vedic-

astrology% 40. com>,

Rafal

> > > Gendarz

> > > > > > > > > > <starsuponme@

....> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah

adityaya*

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Asha,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Lets start with

basics:

> > > > > > > > > > > ------------

--------- -----

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > SIXTH AND

ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Sixth and

eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara.

> > This

> > > are

> > > > > > > > > > Oopachaya

> > > > > > > > > > > house lorded by

Buddha and Sani in natural

zodial

> > > (please

> > > > > > refer

> > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > > article about

free will). Especially we see that

> > fifth

> > > house

> > > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh is very

beneficial and shows likings of

> > native

> > > (for

> > > > > > > > example

> > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > my chart its

Chandra in eight bhava as Karana

Lord

> > which

> > > > > > gives

> > > > > > > > > > occult

> > > > > > > > > > > vidya), while

sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH

are

> > very

> > > bad

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > shows

> > > > > > > > > > > what one sees as

RIPU. This gives also problem

to

> > mantra

> > > and

> > > > > > > > faith

> > > > > > > > > > > (maraka from

mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning

> > this

> > > > > > bhavas I

> > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > referring to

placement from Lagnesh.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > EIGHT AND

TWELFTH (Dus-sthana)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Now if we talk

about eight and twelfth we move

on

> > > platform

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > Dusthanas.

> > > > > > > > > > > Now this depends

on placement and sambandha

between

> > > dusthana

> > > > > > > > lord

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh, and

also about category of grahas

> > depending on

> > > > > > being in

> > > > > > > > > > Sura or

> > > > > > > > > > > Asura group,

therefore You will see that Sastra

> > eugolize

> > > > > > Buddha

> > > > > > > > &

> > > > > > > > > > Venus

> > > > > > > > > > > position in

Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in

eight it

> > > gives

> > > > > > occult

> > > > > > > > > > > knowledge

(Parasara), hazardous attitude and

> > secretive

> > > > > > nature,

> > > > > > > > > > advise

> > > > > > > > > > > for these people

are to go abroad. Lagnesh in

> > twelfth

> > > can

> > > > > > give

> > > > > > > > > > > sacrificing/

donating nature (esp when Shukra is

> > also

> > > > > > there -

> > > > > > > > > > Parasara)

> > > > > > > > > > > but also

quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H).

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Of course other

factors can have HIGHER

PRIORITY in

> > > reading

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > results.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Hope it helps.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath

Center Guru

> > > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh in

6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th

and

> > > 12th?

> > > > > > > > > > > > if lagnesh

is placed in 8th whats the result

> > > > > > > > > > > > and if

lagnesh is in 12th whats the result?

> > > > > > > > > > > > asha

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text

portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

August 2, 2007

So you can strengthen Mercury right?Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 8/2/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak

> wrote:

Hi Bharat,

I wud think placement in dusthana.

brds,

SS

sohamsa , " Bharat - Hindu Astrology "

<astrologyhindu wrote:

>

> Namaste Sri Soul

>

> What is causing the significations to suffer - Is it Mercury or its

adverse

> placement?

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

> On 8/2/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote:

> >

> > Thanx again Bharat,

> >

> > but wud'nt the signifactions of 1h and 4h get adversely affected

> > simultaneously?

> >

> > brgds,

> >

> > SS

> >

> > sohamsa , " Bharat - Hindu Astrology "

> > <astrologyhindu@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste Sri Soul

> > >

> > > 8th house is where Mercury flourishes. It is also the Yogi. It

is in a

> > > powerful navamsha and in Mars's nakshatra and helps in

overcoming the

> > > problems faced in 9th house.

> > >

> > > Thanks and Regards

> > > Bharat

> > >

> > > On 8/1/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bharat,

> > > >

> > > > Thanx a tonne for ur input.

> > > > The native was advised to donate greens (veggies) on

Wednesdays -

> > > > perhaps due to Me being in 8h (dusthana), however the native

on the

> > > > contrary likes green the best!

> > > > What wud be ur reason of advising Emerald - though what i see

is it's

> > > > for lagna lord/yogakaraka (lord kendra+trine)...but am

skeptical

> > > > about placement of the same in dusthana.

> > > >

> > > > brgds,

> > > > SS

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%

40>, " Bharat -

> >

> > > > Hindu Astrology "

> > > > astrologyhindu@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste Sri Soul

> > > > >

> > > > > I hope I am not interrupting anything here. Rahu's dasha

will bring

> > > > Sarala

> > > > > Yoga and vipreet raja yoga into action. However 9th house

may

> > > > suffer but

> > > > > health should not except for minor ailments.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ketu being in Sun's nakshatra may harm the 9th house

significations

> > > > even

> > > > > more. I won't advise this person to wear a cat's eye. If

anything

> > > > needs to

> > > > > be done, then, it is worship of Surya Devta. Also, wear a

Surya

> > > > numerical

> > > > > yantra.

> > > > >

> > > > > In Gemstones, an Emerald is likely to suit this person. The

native

> > > > can wear

> > > > > it in gold as a ring or better still as a pendant on the

heart

> > > > chakra.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > Bharat

> > > > >

> > > > > On 7/25/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls cud you

explain

> > > > what u

> > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh

wrt the

> > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very

bad and

> > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern

over

> > > > Lagna

> > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to marriage, native

shd not be

> > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another mssg

(sohamsa) - the

> > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, silly

mistakes in

> > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after wearing

that stone

> > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have done him

better to

> > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or wud u still

suggest

> > > > stone

> > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve are also in

exchange

> > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence the question.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanx a tonne

> > > > > > SS

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40gro

ups.com

> > ><sohamsa%40gro

> > > > ups.com>, Rafal

> > > >

> > > > Gendarz

> > > > > > <starsuponme@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow more dharma

than

> > > > > > occult. In

> > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.

> > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is Sharada yoga

per BPHS.

> > > > This

> > > > > > yoga

> > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have

> > > > > > > loose morals.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in marriage until

childbirth.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus? Comeon...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement, and its in

parivartana

> > > > with

> > > > > > > Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big enmity rises

which will

> > > > > > afflict

> > > > > > > comforts and afflict native's rise & marriage life.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good ability in

Jyotish

> > > > > > Vedanga.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in 8h,

Mo in 8h

> > > > > > (marana

> > > > > > > > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify delving

into

> > > > occult.

> > > > > > > > Ke in 12h again native may want to look for moksha /

> > > > meditative

> > > > > > > > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but Ke is in

Ta

> > > > (weak),

> > > > > > > > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but there's

exchange

> > > > b/w

> > > > > > Ju

> > > > > > > > and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats eye, will

it be

> > > > good or

> > > > > > > > bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but wont it

harm the

> > > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > > or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th from

lagnesh

> > > > (and

> > > > > > > > Mo/chandra-rasi) ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the native may

veiw

> > > > > > > > self/body/own intelligence/ perception as a

punishment?

> > > > > > > > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar, india.

> > > > > > > > (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the

discussion

> > > > seems

> > > > > > to be

> > > > > > > > in the direction that i am looking for - so u may

skip ur

> > > > reply

> > > > > > > > there)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne,

> > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > > > > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal

Gendarz

> > > > > > > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Asha,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lets start with basics:

> > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- -----

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara.

This are

> > > > > > > > Oopachaya

> > > > > > > > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial

(please

> > > > refer

> > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > article about free will). Especially we see that

fifth house

> > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of

native (for

> > > > > > example

> > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord

which

> > > > gives

> > > > > > > > occult

> > > > > > > > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are

very bad

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > shows

> > > > > > > > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to

mantra and

> > > > > > faith

> > > > > > > > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning

this

> > > > bhavas I

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > referring to placement from Lagnesh.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on

platform

> > > > of

> > > > > > > > Dusthanas.

> > > > > > > > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha between

dusthana

> > > > > > lord

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas

depending on

> > > > being in

> > > > > > > > Sura or

> > > > > > > > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra

eugolize

> > > > Buddha

> > > > > > &

> > > > > > > > Venus

> > > > > > > > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it

gives

> > > > occult

> > > > > > > > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and

secretive

> > > > nature,

> > > > > > > > advise

> > > > > > > > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in

twelfth can

> > > > give

> > > > > > > > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is

also

> > > > there -

> > > > > > > > Parasara)

> > > > > > > > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in

reading

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > results.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hope it helps.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Rafal ji,

> > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and

12th?

> > > > > > > > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result

> > > > > > > > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result?

> > > > > > > > > > asha

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

August 3, 2007

I am not responsible for what is written by someone else. You have to ask the writer's blog for the same. Now:A graha, even when lagnesh, in dusthana if aspected by malefic grahas can give malefic results. Why so? Because in a dusthana the graha meets a kshetra where it is repeatedly frustrated and desire fulfillment does not happen. If it is further aspected by malefics, it becomes very hard for it to overcome near impossible odds. However, if it is strong it can overcome the Kshetra and rule over it. In this case, Mercury is in 8th house, which is not considered as a malefic house for Mercury. A stronger lagna lord Mercury, in 8th house can help overcome a zillion transformations and sudden changes in life with viveka and determination. Being a Yogi, it is given more benevolence. Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 8/3/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote:

how do we reconcile this statement then:

" Hence it must be remembered that a good planet (lords of Lagna, 5th

and 9th) / Yoga- karaka if placed in a dusthana (6th / 8th/ 12th),

they can also give malefic results in addition to their inherent

benefic nature to do good. "

http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish-i.html

brds and thanx a tonne

SS

sohamsa , " Bharat - Hindu Astrology "

<astrologyhindu wrote:

>

> So you can strengthen Mercury right?

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

> On 8/2/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote:

> >

> > Hi Bharat,

> >

> > I wud think placement in dusthana.

> >

> > brds,

> > SS

> >

> > sohamsa <sohamsa%

40>, " Bharat -

> > Hindu Astrology "

> > <astrologyhindu@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste Sri Soul

> > >

> > > What is causing the significations to suffer - Is it Mercury or

its

> > adverse

> > > placement?

> > >

> > > Thanks and Regards

> > > Bharat

> > >

> > > On 8/2/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Thanx again Bharat,

> > > >

> > > > but wud'nt the signifactions of 1h and 4h get adversely

affected

> > > > simultaneously?

> > > >

> > > > brgds,

> > > >

> > > > SS

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%

40>, " Bharat -

> > Hindu Astrology "

> > > > <astrologyhindu@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste Sri Soul

> > > > >

> > > > > 8th house is where Mercury flourishes. It is also the Yogi.

It

> > is in a

> > > > > powerful navamsha and in Mars's nakshatra and helps in

> > overcoming the

> > > > > problems faced in 9th house.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > Bharat

> > > > >

> > > > > On 8/1/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Bharat,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanx a tonne for ur input.

> > > > > > The native was advised to donate greens (veggies) on

> > Wednesdays -

> > > > > > perhaps due to Me being in 8h (dusthana), however the

native

> > on the

> > > > > > contrary likes green the best!

> > > > > > What wud be ur reason of advising Emerald - though what i

see

> > is it's

> > > > > > for lagna lord/yogakaraka (lord kendra+trine)...but am

> > skeptical

> > > > > > about placement of the same in dusthana.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > brgds,

> > > > > > SS

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%

40><sohamsa%

> > 40>, " Bharat -

> > > >

> > > > > > Hindu Astrology "

> > > > > > astrologyhindu@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaste Sri Soul

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I hope I am not interrupting anything here. Rahu's dasha

> > will bring

> > > > > > Sarala

> > > > > > > Yoga and vipreet raja yoga into action. However 9th

house

> > may

> > > > > > suffer but

> > > > > > > health should not except for minor ailments.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ketu being in Sun's nakshatra may harm the 9th house

> > significations

> > > > > > even

> > > > > > > more. I won't advise this person to wear a cat's eye. If

> > anything

> > > > > > needs to

> > > > > > > be done, then, it is worship of Surya Devta. Also, wear

a

> > Surya

> > > > > > numerical

> > > > > > > yantra.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In Gemstones, an Emerald is likely to suit this person.

The

> > native

> > > > > > can wear

> > > > > > > it in gold as a ring or better still as a pendant on the

> > heart

> > > > > > chakra.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > > > Bharat

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 7/25/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls cud you

> > explain

> > > > > > what u

> > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th from

Lagnesh

> > wrt the

> > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very

> > bad and

> > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence my

concern

> > over

> > > > > > Lagna

> > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to marriage, native

> > shd not be

> > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another mssg

> > (sohamsa) - the

> > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, silly

> > mistakes in

> > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after wearing

> > that stone

> > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have done

him

> > better to

> > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or wud u

still

> > suggest

> > > > > > stone

> > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve are also

in

> > exchange

> > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence the

question.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne

> > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%

40><sohamsa%40gro

> > ups.com

> > > > ><sohamsa%40gro

> > > > > > ups.com>, Rafal

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Gendarz

> > > > > > > > <starsuponme@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow more

dharma

> > than

> > > > > > > > occult. In

> > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.

> > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is Sharada yoga

> > per BPHS.

> > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > yoga

> > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have

> > > > > > > > > loose morals.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in marriage until

> > childbirth.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus? Comeon...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement, and its in

> > parivartana

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big enmity rises

> > which will

> > > > > > > > afflict

> > > > > > > > > comforts and afflict native's rise & marriage life.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good ability in

> > Jyotish

> > > > > > > > Vedanga.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in

8h,

> > Mo in 8h

> > > > > > > > (marana

> > > > > > > > > > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify

delving

> > into

> > > > > > occult.

> > > > > > > > > > Ke in 12h again native may want to look for

moksha /

> > > > > > meditative

> > > > > > > > > > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but Ke

is in

> > Ta

> > > > > > (weak),

> > > > > > > > > > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but

there's

> > exchange

> > > > > > b/w

> > > > > > > > Ju

> > > > > > > > > > and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats eye,

will

> > it be

> > > > > > good or

> > > > > > > > > > bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but

wont it

> > harm the

> > > > > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > > > > or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th

from

> > lagnesh

> > > > > > (and

> > > > > > > > > > Mo/chandra-rasi) ?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the native

may

> > veiw

> > > > > > > > > > self/body/own intelligence/ perception as a

> > punishment?

> > > > > > > > > > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar,

india.

> > > > > > > > > > (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the

> > discussion

> > > > > > seems

> > > > > > > > to be

> > > > > > > > > > in the direction that i am looking for - so u may

> > skip ur

> > > > > > reply

> > > > > > > > > > there)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne,

> > > > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > > > > > > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal

> > Gendarz

> > > > > > > > > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Asha,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Lets start with basics:

> > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- -----

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara.

> > This are

> > > > > > > > > > Oopachaya

> > > > > > > > > > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural

zodial

> > (please

> > > > > > refer

> > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > > article about free will). Especially we see that

> > fifth house

> > > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of

> > native (for

> > > > > > > > example

> > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana

Lord

> > which

> > > > > > gives

> > > > > > > > > > occult

> > > > > > > > > > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH

are

> > very bad

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > shows

> > > > > > > > > > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem

to

> > mantra and

> > > > > > > > faith

> > > > > > > > > > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning

> > this

> > > > > > bhavas I

> > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > referring to placement from Lagnesh.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move

on

> > platform

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > Dusthanas.

> > > > > > > > > > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha

between

> > dusthana

> > > > > > > > lord

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas

> > depending on

> > > > > > being in

> > > > > > > > > > Sura or

> > > > > > > > > > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra

> > eugolize

> > > > > > Buddha

> > > > > > > > &

> > > > > > > > > > Venus

> > > > > > > > > > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in

eight it

> > gives

> > > > > > occult

> > > > > > > > > > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and

> > secretive

> > > > > > nature,

> > > > > > > > > > advise

> > > > > > > > > > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in

> > twelfth can

> > > > > > give

> > > > > > > > > > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is

> > also

> > > > > > there -

> > > > > > > > > > Parasara)

> > > > > > > > > > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H).

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER

PRIORITY in

> > reading

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > results.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Hope it helps.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th

and

> > 12th?

> > > > > > > > > > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result

> > > > > > > > > > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result?

> > > > > > > > > > > > asha

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

August 3, 2007

hraum namah adityaya

Dear SS,

Nope, Yogakaraka in dusthana is still rajayoga, this is in my article

from Jyotish Digest.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

Rohinaa ashram: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl

Soul Sadhak napisał(a):

how do we reconcile this statement then:

"Hence it must be remembered that a good planet (lords of Lagna, 5th

and 9th) / Yoga- karaka if placed in a dusthana (6th / 8th/ 12th),

they can also give malefic results in addition to their inherent

benefic nature to do good."

http://varahamihira

..blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in-jyotish- i.html

brds and thanx a tonne

SS

sohamsa@

..com, "Bharat - Hindu Astrology"

<astrologyhindu@ ...> wrote:

>

> So you can strengthen Mercury right?

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

> On 8/2/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Bharat,

> >

> > I wud think placement in dusthana.

> >

> > brds,

> > SS

> >

> > sohamsa@

..com <sohamsa%

40. com>, "Bharat -

> > Hindu Astrology"

> > <astrologyhindu@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste Sri Soul

> > >

> > > What is causing the significations to suffer - Is it

Mercury or

its

> > adverse

> > > placement?

> > >

> > > Thanks and Regards

> > > Bharat

> > >

> > > On 8/2/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Thanx again Bharat,

> > > >

> > > > but wud'nt the signifactions of 1h and 4h get

adversely

affected

> > > > simultaneously?

> > > >

> > > > brgds,

> > > >

> > > > SS

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa@

..com <sohamsa%

40. com>, "Bharat -

> > Hindu Astrology"

> > > > <astrologyhindu@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste Sri Soul

> > > > >

> > > > > 8th house is where Mercury flourishes. It is

also the Yogi.

It

> > is in a

> > > > > powerful navamsha and in Mars's nakshatra and

helps in

> > overcoming the

> > > > > problems faced in 9th house.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > Bharat

> > > > >

> > > > > On 8/1/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Bharat,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanx a tonne for ur input.

> > > > > > The native was advised to donate greens

(veggies) on

> > Wednesdays -

> > > > > > perhaps due to Me being in 8h (dusthana),

however the

native

> > on the

> > > > > > contrary likes green the best!

> > > > > > What wud be ur reason of advising Emerald

- though what i

see

> > is it's

> > > > > > for lagna lord/yogakaraka (lord

kendra+trine) ...but am

> > skeptical

> > > > > > about placement of the same in dusthana.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > brgds,

> > > > > > SS

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

<sohamsa%

40. com><sohamsa%

> > 40. com>, "Bharat -

> > > >

> > > > > > Hindu Astrology"

> > > > > > astrologyhindu@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaste Sri Soul

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I hope I am not interrupting

anything here. Rahu's dasha

> > will bring

> > > > > > Sarala

> > > > > > > Yoga and vipreet raja yoga into

action. However 9th

house

> > may

> > > > > > suffer but

> > > > > > > health should not except for minor

ailments.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ketu being in Sun's nakshatra may

harm the 9th house

> > significations

> > > > > > even

> > > > > > > more. I won't advise this person to

wear a cat's eye. If

> > anything

> > > > > > needs to

> > > > > > > be done, then, it is worship of

Surya Devta. Also, wear

a

> > Surya

> > > > > > numerical

> > > > > > > yantra.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In Gemstones, an Emerald is likely

to suit this person.

The

> > native

> > > > > > can wear

> > > > > > > it in gold as a ring or better still

as a pendant on the

> > heart

> > > > > > chakra.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > > > Bharat

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 7/25/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@

wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur

explaination, however pls cud you

> > explain

> > > > > > what u

> > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re.

6th and 11th from

Lagnesh

> > wrt the

> > > > > > > > chart. "while sixth and

eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very

> > bad and

> > > > > > > > > > shows > > >

what one sees as RIPU" - hence my

concern

> > over

> > > > > > Lagna

> > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have

explained.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such

touble to marriage, native

> > shd not be

> > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i

expressed in another mssg

> > (sohamsa) - the

> > > > > > > > native was facing problem like

day-dreamings, silly

> > mistakes in

> > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were

reduced after wearing

> > that stone

> > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha

worship wud have done

him

> > better to

> > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable

for him, or wud u

still

> > suggest

> > > > > > stone

> > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma

exchange?) - Ju-Ve are also

in

> > exchange

> > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge

lagna - hence the

question.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne

> > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

<sohamsa%

40. com><sohamsa% 40gro

> > ups.com

> > > > ><sohamsa%40gr o

> > > > > > ups.com>, Rafal

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Gendarz

> > > > > > > > <starsuponme@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will

be also to follow more

dharma

> > than

> > > > > > > > occult. In

> > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra

Lagnesh is in ninth.

> > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement

to Me/Ju) is Sharada yoga

> > per BPHS.

> > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > yoga

> > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so

spouse can have

> > > > > > > > > loose morals.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 2. Ke in twelfth gives

arguments in marriage until

> > childbirth.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord?

Shad ripus? Comeon...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 4. Ra here is in

Ayur-uccha placement, and its in

> > parivartana

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > Mangal so Fortune gets

spoiled and big enmity rises

> > which will

> > > > > > > > afflict

> > > > > > > > > comforts and afflict

native's rise & marriage life.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna

gives very good ability in

> > Jyotish

> > > > > > > > Vedanga.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > in the chart

undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in

8h,

> > Mo in 8h

> > > > > > > > (marana

> > > > > > > > > > karaka sthana) - Me

and Mo in 8h wud signify

delving

> > into

> > > > > > occult.

> > > > > > > > > > Ke in 12h again

native may want to look for

moksha /

> > > > > > meditative

> > > > > > > > > > tendency? (skipping

nav/d-20 for now)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Ke 5th from Lagnesh

(likings as u said), but Ke

is in

> > Ta

> > > > > > (weak),

> > > > > > > > > > aspecting Ju from 5h

and Ju aspects 9h (but

there's

> > exchange

> > > > > > b/w

> > > > > > > > Ju

> > > > > > > > > > and Ve too) - now if

the native wears cats eye,

will

> > it be

> > > > > > good or

> > > > > > > > > > bad - good from

spiritual point of veiw - but

wont it

> > harm the

> > > > > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > > > > or wud it be

beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th

from

> > lagnesh

> > > > > > (and

> > > > > > > > > > Mo/chandra-rasi) ?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Lagna itself comes

6th to lagnesh, so the native

may

> > veiw

> > > > > > > > > > self/body/own

intelligence/ perception as a

> > punishment?

> > > > > > > > > > what wud Ra (in Sc)

11th from lagnesh signify?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > birth details:

9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar,

india.

> > > > > > > > > > (have posted this at

sohamsa too, but here the

> > discussion

> > > > > > seems

> > > > > > > > to be

> > > > > > > > > > in the direction that

i am looking for - so u may

> > skip ur

> > > > > > reply

> > > > > > > > > > there)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne,

> > > > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- In

vedic astrology

> > > > > > > > > > <vedic-

astrology% 40. com>, Rafal

> > Gendarz

> > > > > > > > > > <starsuponme@

....> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah

adityaya*

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Asha,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Lets start with

basics:

> > > > > > > > > > > ------------

--------- -----

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > SIXTH AND

ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Sixth and

eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara.

> > This are

> > > > > > > > > > Oopachaya

> > > > > > > > > > > house lorded by

Buddha and Sani in natural

zodial

> > (please

> > > > > > refer

> > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > > article about

free will). Especially we see that

> > fifth house

> > > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh is very

beneficial and shows likings of

> > native (for

> > > > > > > > example

> > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > my chart its

Chandra in eight bhava as Karana

Lord

> > which

> > > > > > gives

> > > > > > > > > > occult

> > > > > > > > > > > vidya), while

sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH

are

> > very bad

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > shows

> > > > > > > > > > > what one sees as

RIPU. This gives also problem

to

> > mantra and

> > > > > > > > faith

> > > > > > > > > > > (maraka from

mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning

> > this

> > > > > > bhavas I

> > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > referring to

placement from Lagnesh.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > EIGHT AND

TWELFTH (Dus-sthana)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Now if we talk

about eight and twelfth we move

on

> > platform

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > Dusthanas.

> > > > > > > > > > > Now this depends

on placement and sambandha

between

> > dusthana

> > > > > > > > lord

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh, and

also about category of grahas

> > depending on

> > > > > > being in

> > > > > > > > > > Sura or

> > > > > > > > > > > Asura group,

therefore You will see that Sastra

> > eugolize

> > > > > > Buddha

> > > > > > > > &

> > > > > > > > > > Venus

> > > > > > > > > > > position in

Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in

eight it

> > gives

> > > > > > occult

> > > > > > > > > > > knowledge

(Parasara), hazardous attitude and

> > secretive

> > > > > > nature,

> > > > > > > > > > advise

> > > > > > > > > > > for these people

are to go abroad. Lagnesh in

> > twelfth can

> > > > > > give

> > > > > > > > > > > sacrificing/

donating nature (esp when Shukra is

> > also

> > > > > > there -

> > > > > > > > > > Parasara)

> > > > > > > > > > > but also

quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H).

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Of course other

factors can have HIGHER

PRIORITY in

> > reading

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > results.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Hope it helps.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath

Center Guru

> > > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh in

6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th

and

> > 12th?

> > > > > > > > > > > > if lagnesh

is placed in 8th whats the result

> > > > > > > > > > > > and if

lagnesh is in 12th whats the result?

> > > > > > > > > > > > asha

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text

portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

August 3, 2007

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear all,

There are few things to note here,

1.

If lords of good houses such as Kendra or Kona are in dusthanas,

it is simply a bad yoga, which can diminish the capacity of the Kendra or kona

lords to give good results and their houses suffer as well. The problem heightens,

if they are afflicted.

2.

If there is a yoga formation in the dusthanas due to the

placement of the Kendra and kona lords, then the above condition is reversed

and if planets are strongly placed, the yoga will fructify, however in the area

shown by the dusthana or after events related to the dusthanas.

3.

If a yogakaraka planet is placed in dusthana, then the yoga

giving power of the planet is considerably affected, unless it happens to be

Saturn, the karaka of the dusthanas.

4.

If above planets placed in dusthanas are strong, they give

better results than when they are weak and / or afflicted.

As of the dictum mentioned below, if you are selecting a

gemstone, you need to be very careful of what kind of results it can give. A

planet give results due to three conditions, which are:

1.

Based on its inherent nature (highest when it is not conjoined

or aspected) – it has most impact on the nature of the person

2.

Based on its lordship (highest when there are no planets when in

its house) – it has most impact on the situations and circumstances

3.

Based on its placement (highest when it is placed in the bhava madhya)

– it has most impact on the situation and circumstances

The above results are even modified by aspects, conjunctions, argala

etc.

When you are selecting a gemstone, you have to weigh all the

positives and negatives of the planet. If the planet is positive from various

aspects and negatives from some aspects, then you can chose it. It will not however,

prevent from the negatives from happening… Its just that the positives

outweigh the negatives.

Best Wishes

Sarajit

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Rafal

Gendarz

Friday, August 03, 2007 1:03 PM

sohamsa

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lagnesh in 8th or 12th

rafal ji

hraum namah adityaya

Dear SS,

Nope, Yogakaraka in dusthana is still rajayoga, this is in my article from

Jyotish Digest.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

Rohinaa ashram: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl

Soul Sadhak napisa³(a):

how do we reconcile this statement then:

" Hence it must be remembered that a good planet (lords of Lagna, 5th

and 9th) / Yoga- karaka if placed in a dusthana (6th / 8th/ 12th),

they can also give malefic results in addition to their inherent

benefic nature to do good. "

http://varahamihira

..blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in-jyotish- i.html

brds and thanx a tonne

SS

sohamsa@ .com,

" Bharat - Hindu Astrology "

<astrologyhindu@ ...> wrote:

>

> So you can strengthen Mercury right?

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

> On 8/2/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Bharat,

> >

> > I wud think placement in dusthana.

> >

> > brds,

> > SS

> >

> > sohamsa@

..com <sohamsa%

40. com>, " Bharat -

> > Hindu Astrology "

> > <astrologyhindu@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste Sri Soul

> > >

> > > What is causing the significations to suffer - Is it Mercury or

its

> > adverse

> > > placement?

> > >

> > > Thanks and Regards

> > > Bharat

> > >

> > > On 8/2/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Thanx again Bharat,

> > > >

> > > > but wud'nt the signifactions of 1h and 4h get adversely

affected

> > > > simultaneously?

> > > >

> > > > brgds,

> > > >

> > > > SS

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa@

..com <sohamsa%

40. com>, " Bharat -

> > Hindu Astrology "

> > > > <astrologyhindu@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste Sri Soul

> > > > >

> > > > > 8th house is where Mercury flourishes. It is also the

Yogi.

It

> > is in a

> > > > > powerful navamsha and in Mars's nakshatra and helps in

> > overcoming the

> > > > > problems faced in 9th house.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > Bharat

> > > > >

> > > > > On 8/1/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Bharat,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanx a tonne for ur input.

> > > > > > The native was advised to donate greens (veggies)

on

> > Wednesdays -

> > > > > > perhaps due to Me being in 8h (dusthana), however

the

native

> > on the

> > > > > > contrary likes green the best!

> > > > > > What wud be ur reason of advising Emerald - though

what i

see

> > is it's

> > > > > > for lagna lord/yogakaraka (lord kendra+trine)

....but am

> > skeptical

> > > > > > about placement of the same in dusthana.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > brgds,

> > > > > > SS

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa@

..com <sohamsa%

40. com><sohamsa%

> > 40. com>, " Bharat -

> > > >

> > > > > > Hindu Astrology "

> > > > > > astrologyhindu@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaste Sri Soul

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I hope I am not interrupting anything here.

Rahu's dasha

> > will bring

> > > > > > Sarala

> > > > > > > Yoga and vipreet raja yoga into action.

However 9th

house

> > may

> > > > > > suffer but

> > > > > > > health should not except for minor ailments.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ketu being in Sun's nakshatra may harm the

9th house

> > significations

> > > > > > even

> > > > > > > more. I won't advise this person to wear a

cat's eye. If

> > anything

> > > > > > needs to

> > > > > > > be done, then, it is worship of Surya Devta.

Also, wear

a

> > Surya

> > > > > > numerical

> > > > > > > yantra.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In Gemstones, an Emerald is likely to suit

this person.

The

> > native

> > > > > > can wear

> > > > > > > it in gold as a ring or better still as a

pendant on the

> > heart

> > > > > > chakra.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > > > Bharat

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 7/25/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination,

however pls cud you

> > explain

> > > > > > what u

> > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and

11th from

Lagnesh

> > wrt the

> > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh

FROM LAGNESH are very

> > bad and

> > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one

sees as RIPU " - hence my

concern

> > over

> > > > > > Lagna

> > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to

marriage, native

> > shd not be

> > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in

another mssg

> > (sohamsa) - the

> > > > > > > > native was facing problem like

day-dreamings, silly

> > mistakes in

> > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced

after wearing

> > that stone

> > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship

wud have done

him

> > better to

> > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for

him, or wud u

still

> > suggest

> > > > > > stone

> > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) -

Ju-Ve are also

in

> > exchange

> > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna -

hence the

question.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne

> > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

<sohamsa%

40. com><sohamsa% 40gro

> > ups.com

> > > > ><sohamsa%40gr o

> > > > > > ups.com>, Rafal

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Gendarz

> > > > > > > > <starsuponme@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also

to follow more

dharma

> > than

> > > > > > > > occult. In

> > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in

ninth.

> > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to

Me/Ju) is Sharada yoga

> > per BPHS.

> > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > yoga

> > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can

have

> > > > > > > > > loose morals.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments

in marriage until

> > childbirth.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad

ripus? Comeon...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha

placement, and its in

> > parivartana

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and

big enmity rises

> > which will

> > > > > > > > afflict

> > > > > > > > > comforts and afflict native's rise

& marriage life.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives

very good ability in

> > Jyotish

> > > > > > > > Vedanga.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > in the chart undermentioned,

Lagnesh (Me) is in

8h,

> > Mo in 8h

> > > > > > > > (marana

> > > > > > > > > > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in

8h wud signify

delving

> > into

> > > > > > occult.

> > > > > > > > > > Ke in 12h again native may

want to look for

moksha /

> > > > > > meditative

> > > > > > > > > > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20

for now)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings

as u said), but Ke

is in

> > Ta

> > > > > > (weak),

> > > > > > > > > > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju

aspects 9h (but

there's

> > exchange

> > > > > > b/w

> > > > > > > > Ju

> > > > > > > > > > and Ve too) - now if the

native wears cats eye,

will

> > it be

> > > > > > good or

> > > > > > > > > > bad - good from spiritual

point of veiw - but

wont it

> > harm the

> > > > > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > > > > or wud it be beneficieal to

lagnesh, being 5th

from

> > lagnesh

> > > > > > (and

> > > > > > > > > > Mo/chandra-rasi) ?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Lagna itself comes 6th to

lagnesh, so the native

may

> > veiw

> > > > > > > > > > self/body/own intelligence/

perception as a

> > punishment?

> > > > > > > > > > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from

lagnesh signify?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > birth details: 9th/mar/94,

12:53pm, amritsar,

india.

> > > > > > > > > > (have posted this at sohamsa

too, but here the

> > discussion

> > > > > > seems

> > > > > > > > to be

> > > > > > > > > > in the direction that i am

looking for - so u may

> > skip ur

> > > > > > reply

> > > > > > > > > > there)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne,

> > > > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology@

. com

> > > > > > > > > > <vedic- astrology%

40. com>, Rafal

> > Gendarz

> > > > > > > > > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Asha,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Lets start with basics:

> > > > > > > > > > > ------------ ---------

-----

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH

(Upachaya Sthana)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Sixth and eleventh are

houses of Danda and Hara.

> > This are

> > > > > > > > > > Oopachaya

> > > > > > > > > > > house lorded by Buddha

and Sani in natural

zodial

> > (please

> > > > > > refer

> > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > > article about free

will). Especially we see that

> > fifth house

> > > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh is very

beneficial and shows likings of

> > native (for

> > > > > > > > example

> > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > my chart its Chandra in

eight bhava as Karana

Lord

> > which

> > > > > > gives

> > > > > > > > > > occult

> > > > > > > > > > > vidya), while sixth and

eleventh FROM LAGNESH

are

> > very bad

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > shows

> > > > > > > > > > > what one sees as RIPU.

This gives also problem

to

> > mantra and

> > > > > > > > faith

> > > > > > > > > > > (maraka from

mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning

> > this

> > > > > > bhavas I

> > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > referring to placement

from Lagnesh.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH

(Dus-sthana)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Now if we talk about

eight and twelfth we move

on

> > platform

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > Dusthanas.

> > > > > > > > > > > Now this depends on

placement and sambandha

between

> > dusthana

> > > > > > > > lord

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh, and also about

category of grahas

> > depending on

> > > > > > being in

> > > > > > > > > > Sura or

> > > > > > > > > > > Asura group, therefore

You will see that Sastra

> > eugolize

> > > > > > Buddha

> > > > > > > > &

> > > > > > > > > > Venus

> > > > > > > > > > > position in

Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in

eight it

> > gives

> > > > > > occult

> > > > > > > > > > > knowledge (Parasara),

hazardous attitude and

> > secretive

> > > > > > nature,

> > > > > > > > > > advise

> > > > > > > > > > > for these people are to

go abroad. Lagnesh in

> > twelfth can

> > > > > > give

> > > > > > > > > > > sacrificing/ donating nature

(esp when Shukra is

> > also

> > > > > > there -

> > > > > > > > > > Parasara)

> > > > > > > > > > > but also quarrelsome

tendency (asp on 6H).

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Of course other factors

can have HIGHER

PRIORITY in

> > reading

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > results.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Hope it helps.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center

Guru

> > > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh in 6th and

11th is bad-what about 8th

and

> > 12th?

> > > > > > > > > > > > if lagnesh is

placed in 8th whats the result

> > > > > > > > > > > > and if lagnesh is

in 12th whats the result?

> > > > > > > > > > > > asha

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of

this message have been

> > removed]

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

August 4, 2007

Namaste Sri Soul

Due to the malefic effect, the functional benefic is rendered helpless in many cases and unable to give its effects, thereby, unable to protect the significations of the houses it owns. In such a case, it is best to do Puja, strengthen the graha using gemstone and also wearing a Yantra as a protection against any malefic results.

Another thing to understand is, we tend to see the malefic results onesidedly. If Rahu aspects Mercury (7th aspect), then, Mercury also aspects Rahu. In Rahu's dasha, Mercury shall add benefit being the lagna lord.

In this case, Mercury is also the Yogi and therefore, requires to be strengthened. If there be any doubt, then wear it with Mercury's numerical Yantra in a Silver locket.

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

On 8/4/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote:

Dear Bharat,certainly it was not your responsibility but my clarification in question. it is commonplace for those who start studing astrology or for that matter any subject to come across (seemingly) conflicting statements and hence seek to arrive at some resolution. Many thanx for providing your opinion and contributing to the learning process - sicnerely hoping it will help all those who read thru this forum to resolve their own conflicts in this regard.

ok! so basically if i understand correctly what you said, is that if fallen in bad placement, it shd be resurrected by strengthening it (esp when there is no malefic effect, and Me in 8h is no a malefic

placement)now, if malefic aspect is there it can produce malefic results - if this is so, then in this case, the Me is recieving rasi aspect from Ra and Ke, that wud increase the malefic results produced by Me.

so gemstone of Me here wud help Me to overcome the malefic effect or enhance it's maleficence (acquired from Ra-Ke)? esp so since Me adapts the effect of those that conjoin or aspect it.brgds and thanx for putting up

SSsohamsa , " Bharat - Hindu Astrology "

> I am not responsible for what is written by someone else. You have to ask> the writer's blog for the same.> > Now:> A graha, even when lagnesh, in dusthana if aspected by malefic grahas can> give malefic results. Why so? Because in a dusthana the graha meets a> kshetra where it is repeatedly frustrated and desire fulfillment does not> happen. If it is further aspected by malefics, it becomes very hard for it> to overcome near impossible odds. However, if it is strong it can overcome> the Kshetra and rule over it. In this case, Mercury is in 8th house, which> is not considered as a malefic house for Mercury. A stronger lagna lord> Mercury, in 8th house can help overcome a zillion transformations and sudden> changes in life with viveka and determination. Being a Yogi, it is given> more benevolence.>

> Thanks and Regards> Bharat> > > > On 8/3/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote:> >> > how do we reconcile this statement then:

> >> > " Hence it must be remembered that a good planet (lords of Lagna, 5th> > and 9th) / Yoga- karaka if placed in a dusthana (6th / 8th/ 12th),> > they can also give malefic results in addition to their inherent

> > benefic nature to do good. " > >> > http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish-

i.html> >> > brds and thanx a tonne> > SS> >

> > sohamsa <sohamsa%

40>, " Bharat -> > Hindu Astrology " > > <astrologyhindu@> wrote:> > >> > > So you can strengthen Mercury right?

> > >> > > Thanks and Regards> > > Bharat> > >> > > On 8/2/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Hi Bharat,

> > > >> > > > I wud think placement in dusthana.> > > >> > > > brds,> > > > SS> > > >> > > >

sohamsa <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa%> >

40>, " Bharat -> > > > Hindu Astrology " > > > > <astrologyhindu@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Namaste Sri Soul> > > > >

> > > > > What is causing the significations to suffer - Is it Mercury or> > its> > > > adverse> > > > > placement?> > > > >> > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > Bharat> > > > >> > > > > On 8/2/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanx again Bharat,

> > > > > >> > > > > > but wud'nt the signifactions of 1h and 4h get adversely> > affected> > > > > > simultaneously?> > > > > >

> > > > > > brgds,> > > > > >> > > > > > SS> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >

sohamsa <sohamsa%40><sohamsa% > > 40>, " Bharat -> > > > Hindu Astrology " > > > > > > <astrologyhindu@> wrote:

> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Namaste Sri Soul> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 8th house is where Mercury flourishes. It is also the Yogi.> > It> > > > is in a> > > > > > > powerful navamsha and in Mars's nakshatra and helps in> > > > overcoming the> > > > > > > problems faced in 9th house.

> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks and Regards> > > > > > > Bharat> > > > > > >> > > > > > > On 8/1/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Bharat,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne for ur input.> > > > > > > > The native was advised to donate greens (veggies) on

> > > > Wednesdays -> > > > > > > > perhaps due to Me being in 8h (dusthana), however the> > native> > > > on the> > > > > > > > contrary likes green the best!

> > > > > > > > What wud be ur reason of advising Emerald - though what i> > see> > > > is it's> > > > > > > > for lagna lord/yogakaraka (lord kendra+trine)...but am

> > > > skeptical> > > > > > > > about placement of the same in dusthana.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > brgds,> > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > sohamsa

<sohamsa%40><sohamsa%> > 40><sohamsa%> > > >

40>, " Bharat -> > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hindu Astrology " > > > > > > > > astrologyhindu@ wrote:> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Namaste Sri Soul> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I hope I am not interrupting anything here. Rahu's

dasha> > > > will bring> > > > > > > > Sarala> > > > > > > > > Yoga and vipreet raja yoga into action. However 9th> > house> > > > may

> > > > > > > > suffer but> > > > > > > > > health should not except for minor ailments.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Ketu being in Sun's nakshatra may harm the 9th house

> > > > significations> > > > > > > > even> > > > > > > > > more. I won't advise this person to wear a cat's eye. If> > > > anything

> > > > > > > > needs to> > > > > > > > > be done, then, it is worship of Surya Devta. Also, wear> > a> > > > Surya> > > > > > > > numerical

> > > > > > > > > yantra.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > In Gemstones, an Emerald is likely to suit this person.> > The

> > > > native> > > > > > > > can wear> > > > > > > > > it in gold as a ring or better still as a pendant on the> > > > heart

> > > > > > > > chakra.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards> > > > > > > > > Bharat

> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On 7/25/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls

cud you> > > > explain> > > > > > > > what u> > > > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th from> > Lagnesh> > > > wrt the

> > > > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very> > > > bad and> > > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence my

> > concern> > > > over> > > > > > > > Lagna> > > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to marriage, native> > > > shd not be> > > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another mssg

> > > > (sohamsa) - the> > > > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, silly> > > > mistakes in> > > > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after wearing> > > > that stone> > > > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have done> > him> > > > better to> > > > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h).

> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or wud u> > still> > > > suggest> > > > > > > > stone

> > > > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve are also> > in> > > > exchange> > > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence the

> > question.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne> > > > > > > > > > SS> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%

40><sohamsa%> > 40><sohamsa%40gro> > > >

ups.com> > > > > > ><sohamsa%40gro> > > > > > > > ups.com

>, Rafal> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Gendarz> > > > > > > > > > <starsuponme@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow more> > dharma> > > > than> > > > > > > > > > occult. In

> > > > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.> > > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is Sharada yoga> > > > per BPHS.

> > > > > > > > This> > > > > > > > > > yoga> > > > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have> > > > > > > > > > > loose morals.

> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in marriage until> > > > childbirth.> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus? Comeon...> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement, and its in> > > > parivartana> > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big enmity rises> > > > which will

> > > > > > > > > > afflict> > > > > > > > > > > comforts and afflict native's rise & marriage life.> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good ability in> > > > Jyotish> > > > > > > > > > Vedanga.> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz> > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in> > 8h,> > > > Mo in 8h

> > > > > > > > > > (marana> > > > > > > > > > > > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify> > delving> > > > into

> > > > > > > > occult.> > > > > > > > > > > > Ke in 12h again native may want to look for> > moksha /> > > > > > > > meditative

> > > > > > > > > > > > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now)> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but Ke> > is in> > > > Ta> > > > > > > > (weak),> > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but> > there's

> > > > exchange> > > > > > > > b/w> > > > > > > > > > Ju> > > > > > > > > > > > and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats eye,> > will> > > > it be> > > > > > > > good or> > > > > > > > > > > > bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but> > wont it

> > > > harm the> > > > > > > > > > lagna> > > > > > > > > > > > or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th> > from

> > > > lagnesh> > > > > > > > (and> > > > > > > > > > > > Mo/chandra-rasi) ?> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the native> > may> > > > veiw> > > > > > > > > > > > self/body/own intelligence/ perception as a

> > > > punishment?> > > > > > > > > > > > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify?> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar,

> > india.> > > > > > > > > > > > (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the> > > > discussion> > > > > > > > seems> > > > > > > > > > to be

> > > > > > > > > > > > in the direction that i am looking for - so u may> > > > skip ur> > > > > > > > reply> > > > > > > > > > > > there)

> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne,> > > > > > > > > > > > SS> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > <

vedic astrology%40>, Rafal> > > > Gendarz> > > > > > > > > > > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Asha,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lets start with basics:> > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- -----

> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana)> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara.> > > > This are> > > > > > > > > > > > Oopachaya

> > > > > > > > > > > > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural> > zodial> > > > (please> > > > > > > > refer> > > > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > > > > article about free will). Especially we see that> > > > fifth house> > > > > > > > > > from> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of> > > > native (for> > > > > > > > > > example> > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana> > Lord> > > > which> > > > > > > > gives> > > > > > > > > > > > occult> > > > > > > > > > > > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH> > are> > > > very bad> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > shows> > > > > > > > > > > > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem> > to> > > > mantra and> > > > > > > > > > faith> > > > > > > > > > > > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning> > > > this> > > > > > > > bhavas I> > > > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > > > referring to placement from Lagnesh.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana)> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move> > on> > > > platform> > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > > > Dusthanas.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha> > between> > > > dusthana> > > > > > > > > > lord

> > > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas> > > > depending on> > > > > > > > being in

> > > > > > > > > > > > Sura or> > > > > > > > > > > > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra> > > > eugolize

> > > > > > > > Buddha> > > > > > > > > > & > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus> > > > > > > > > > > > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in

> > eight it> > > > gives> > > > > > > > occult> > > > > > > > > > > > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and> > > > secretive

> > > > > > > > nature,> > > > > > > > > > > > advise> > > > > > > > > > > > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in> > > > twelfth can> > > > > > > > give> > > > > > > > > > > > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is> > > > also

> > > > > > > > there -> > > > > > > > > > > > Parasara)> > > > > > > > > > > > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H).

> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER> > PRIORITY in> > > > reading

> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > results.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope it helps.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > > > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th> > and> > > > 12th?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > asha> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > > removed]> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

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August 4, 2007

||Namah Shivaya||

Dear Bharat,

Should you not actually strengthen the karaka of the house..if you feel the lord is weak or in MKS; not specifically here though.

Best

Sharat

PS: I dont recollect her natal chart now, so cant comment on that

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Bharat - Hindu Astrology

sohamsa

Saturday, August 04, 2007 11:00 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lagnesh in 8th or 12th rafal ji

Namaste Sri Soul

Due to the malefic effect, the functional benefic is rendered helpless in many cases and unable to give its effects, thereby, unable to protect the significations of the houses it owns. In such a case, it is best to do Puja, strengthen the graha using gemstone and also wearing a Yantra as a protection against any malefic results.

Another thing to understand is, we tend to see the malefic results onesidedly. If Rahu aspects Mercury (7th aspect), then, Mercury also aspects Rahu. In Rahu's dasha, Mercury shall add benefit being the lagna lord.

In this case, Mercury is also the Yogi and therefore, requires to be strengthened. If there be any doubt, then wear it with Mercury's numerical Yantra in a Silver locket.

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

On 8/4/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak > wrote:

Dear Bharat,certainly it was not your responsibility but my clarification in question. it is commonplace for those who start studing astrology or for that matter any subject to come across (seemingly) conflicting statements and hence seek to arrive at some resolution. Many thanx for providing your opinion and contributing to the learning process - sicnerely hoping it will help all those who read thru this forum to resolve their own conflicts in this regard. ok! so basically if i understand correctly what you said, is that if fallen in bad placement, it shd be resurrected by strengthening it (esp when there is no malefic effect, and Me in 8h is no a malefic placement)now, if malefic aspect is there it can produce malefic results - if this is so, then in this case, the Me is recieving rasi aspect from Ra and Ke, that wud increase the malefic results produced by Me. so gemstone of Me here wud help Me to overcome the malefic effect or enhance it's maleficence (acquired from Ra-Ke)? esp so since Me adapts the effect of those that conjoin or aspect it.brgds and thanx for putting up SSsohamsa , "Bharat - Hindu Astrology" <astrologyhindu wrote:>

> I am not responsible for what is written by someone else. You have to ask> the writer's blog for the same.> > Now:> A graha, even when lagnesh, in dusthana if aspected by malefic grahas can> give malefic results. Why so? Because in a dusthana the graha meets a> kshetra where it is repeatedly frustrated and desire fulfillment does not> happen. If it is further aspected by malefics, it becomes very hard for it> to overcome near impossible odds. However, if it is strong it can overcome> the Kshetra and rule over it. In this case, Mercury is in 8th house, which> is not considered as a malefic house for Mercury. A stronger lagna lord> Mercury, in 8th house can help overcome a zillion transformations and sudden> changes in life with viveka and determination. Being a Yogi, it is given> more benevolence.> > Thanks and Regards> Bharat> > > > On 8/3/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote:> >> > how do we reconcile this statement then: > >> > "Hence it must be remembered that a good planet (lords of Lagna, 5th> > and 9th) / Yoga- karaka if placed in a dusthana (6th / 8th/ 12th),> > they can also give malefic results in addition to their inherent > > benefic nature to do good."> >> > http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish- i.html> >> > brds and thanx a tonne> > SS> >

> > sohamsa <sohamsa%40>, "Bharat -> > Hindu Astrology"> > <astrologyhindu@> wrote:> > >> > > So you can strengthen Mercury right? > > >> > > Thanks and Regards> > > Bharat> > >> > > On 8/2/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Hi Bharat, > > > >> > > > I wud think placement in dusthana.> > > >> > > > brds,> > > > SS> > > >> > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa%> > 40>, "Bharat -> > > > Hindu Astrology"> > > > <astrologyhindu@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Namaste Sri Soul> > > > > > > > > > What is causing the significations to suffer - Is it Mercury or> > its> > > > adverse> > > > > placement?> > > > >> > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > Bharat> > > > >> > > > > On 8/2/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanx again Bharat, > > > > > >> > > > > > but wud'nt the signifactions of 1h and 4h get adversely> > affected> > > > > > simultaneously?> > > > > > > > > > > > brgds,> > > > > >> > > > > > SS> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40><sohamsa% > > 40>, "Bharat -> > > > Hindu Astrology"> > > > > > <astrologyhindu@> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Namaste Sri Soul> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 8th house is where Mercury flourishes. It is also the Yogi.> > It> > > > is in a> > > > > > > powerful navamsha and in Mars's nakshatra and helps in> > > > overcoming the> > > > > > > problems faced in 9th house. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks and Regards> > > > > > > Bharat> > > > > > >> > > > > > > On 8/1/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Bharat,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne for ur input.> > > > > > > > The native was advised to donate greens (veggies) on > > > > Wednesdays -> > > > > > > > perhaps due to Me being in 8h (dusthana), however the> > native> > > > on the> > > > > > > > contrary likes green the best! > > > > > > > > What wud be ur reason of advising Emerald - though what i> > see> > > > is it's> > > > > > > > for lagna lord/yogakaraka (lord kendra+trine)...but am > > > > skeptical> > > > > > > > about placement of the same in dusthana.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > brgds,> > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40><sohamsa%> > 40><sohamsa%> > > > 40>, "Bharat -> > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hindu Astrology"> > > > > > > > astrologyhindu@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Sri Soul> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I hope I am not interrupting anything here. Rahu's dasha> > > > will bring> > > > > > > > Sarala> > > > > > > > > Yoga and vipreet raja yoga into action. However 9th> > house> > > > may > > > > > > > > suffer but> > > > > > > > > health should not except for minor ailments.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Ketu being in Sun's nakshatra may harm the 9th house > > > > significations> > > > > > > > even> > > > > > > > > more. I won't advise this person to wear a cat's eye. If> > > > anything > > > > > > > > needs to> > > > > > > > > be done, then, it is worship of Surya Devta. Also, wear> > a> > > > Surya> > > > > > > > numerical > > > > > > > > > yantra.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > In Gemstones, an Emerald is likely to suit this person.> > The > > > > native> > > > > > > > can wear> > > > > > > > > it in gold as a ring or better still as a pendant on the> > > > heart> > > > > > > > chakra.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards> > > > > > > > > Bharat> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On 7/25/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls cud you> > > > explain> > > > > > > > what u> > > > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th from> > Lagnesh> > > > wrt the > > > > > > > > > > chart. "while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very> > > > bad and> > > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU" - hence my > > concern> > > > over> > > > > > > > Lagna> > > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to marriage, native> > > > shd not be> > > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another mssg > > > > (sohamsa) - the> > > > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, silly> > > > mistakes in> > > > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after wearing> > > > that stone> > > > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have done> > him> > > > better to> > > > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h). > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or wud u> > still> > > > suggest> > > > > > > > stone > > > > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve are also> > in> > > > exchange> > > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence the > > question.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne> > > > > > > > > > SS> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40><sohamsa%> > 40><sohamsa%40gro> > > > ups.com> > > > > > ><sohamsa%40gro> > > > > > > > ups.com >, Rafal> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Gendarz> > > > > > > > > > <starsuponme@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow more> > dharma> > > > than> > > > > > > > > > occult. In> > > > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.> > > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is Sharada yoga> > > > per BPHS. > > > > > > > > This> > > > > > > > > > yoga> > > > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have> > > > > > > > > > > loose morals. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in marriage until> > > > childbirth.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus? Comeon...> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement, and its in> > > > parivartana> > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big enmity rises> > > > which will > > > > > > > > > > afflict> > > > > > > > > > > comforts and afflict native's rise & marriage life.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good ability in> > > > Jyotish> > > > > > > > > > Vedanga.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz> > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in> > 8h,> > > > Mo in 8h > > > > > > > > > > (marana> > > > > > > > > > > > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify> > delving> > > > into> > > > > > > > occult.> > > > > > > > > > > > Ke in 12h again native may want to look for> > moksha /> > > > > > > > meditative > > > > > > > > > > > > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now)> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but Ke> > is in> > > > Ta> > > > > > > > (weak),> > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but> > there's > > > > exchange> > > > > > > > b/w> > > > > > > > > > Ju> > > > > > > > > > > > and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats eye,> > will> > > > it be> > > > > > > > good or> > > > > > > > > > > > bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but> > wont it > > > > harm the> > > > > > > > > > lagna> > > > > > > > > > > > or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th> > from> > > > lagnesh> > > > > > > > (and> > > > > > > > > > > > Mo/chandra-rasi) ?> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the native> > may> > > > veiw> > > > > > > > > > > > self/body/own intelligence/ perception as a > > > > punishment?> > > > > > > > > > > > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify?> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar, > > india.> > > > > > > > > > > > (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the> > > > discussion> > > > > > > > seems> > > > > > > > > > to be > > > > > > > > > > > > in the direction that i am looking for - so u may> > > > skip ur> > > > > > > > reply> > > > > > > > > > > > there) > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne,> > > > > > > > > > > > SS> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > < vedic astrology%40>, Rafal> > > > Gendarz> > > > > > > > > > > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Asha, > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lets start with basics:> > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara.> > > > This are> > > > > > > > > > > > Oopachaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural> > zodial> > > > (please> > > > > > > > refer> > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > article about free will). Especially we see that> > > > fifth house> > > > > > > > > > from> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of> > > > native (for> > > > > > > > > > example> > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana> > Lord> > > > which> > > > > > > > gives> > > > > > > > > > > > occult> > > > > > > > > > > > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH> > are> > > > very bad> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > shows> > > > > > > > > > > > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem> > to> > > > mantra and> > > > > > > > > > faith> > > > > > > > > > > > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning> > > > this> > > > > > > > bhavas I> > > > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > > > referring to placement from Lagnesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move> > on> > > > platform> > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > > > Dusthanas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha> > between> > > > dusthana> > > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas> > > > depending on> > > > > > > > being in > > > > > > > > > > > > Sura or> > > > > > > > > > > > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra> > > > eugolize > > > > > > > > Buddha> > > > > > > > > > & > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus> > > > > > > > > > > > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in > > eight it> > > > gives> > > > > > > > occult> > > > > > > > > > > > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and> > > > secretive > > > > > > > > nature,> > > > > > > > > > > > advise> > > > > > > > > > > > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in> > > > twelfth can> > > > > > > > give> > > > > > > > > > > > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is> > > > also > > > > > > > > there -> > > > > > > > > > > > Parasara)> > > > > > > > > > > > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H). > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER> > PRIORITY in> > > > reading > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > results.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope it helps. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > > > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th> > and> > > > 12th?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > asha> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > removed]> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > > >

August 4, 2007

Namaste Sri SharatYou can provided it is not a major functional malefic.In this case, Rahu is aspecting Mercury by Rashi Drishti. Personally, I take rashi drishti to effect change in the kshetra and not the graha. Therefore, for practical purposes strengthening of Mercury will help in this case. It is also important from the point of view of longevity. The person is only 13 years old and I do not think he should wear a Blue Sapphire right now. Moreover the main question was about something else and that is why I had specified the said remedies in my first post.

Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 8/4/07, Sharat <gidoc wrote:

||Namah Shivaya||

Dear Bharat,

Should you not actually strengthen the karaka of the house..if you feel the lord is weak or in MKS; not specifically here though.

Best

Sharat

PS: I dont recollect her natal chart now, so cant comment on that

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Bharat - Hindu Astrology

sohamsa

Saturday, August 04, 2007 11:00 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lagnesh in 8th or 12th rafal ji

Namaste Sri Soul

Due to the malefic effect, the functional benefic is rendered helpless in many cases and unable to give its effects, thereby, unable to protect the significations of the houses it owns. In such a case, it is best to do Puja, strengthen the graha using gemstone and also wearing a Yantra as a protection against any malefic results.

Another thing to understand is, we tend to see the malefic results onesidedly. If Rahu aspects Mercury (7th aspect), then, Mercury also aspects Rahu. In Rahu's dasha, Mercury shall add benefit being the lagna lord.

In this case, Mercury is also the Yogi and therefore, requires to be strengthened. If there be any doubt, then wear it with Mercury's numerical Yantra in a Silver locket.

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

On 8/4/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote:

Dear Bharat,certainly it was not your responsibility but my clarification in question. it is commonplace for those who start studing astrology or for that matter any subject to come across (seemingly) conflicting statements and hence seek to arrive at some resolution. Many thanx for providing your opinion and contributing to the learning process - sicnerely hoping it will help all those who read thru this forum to resolve their own conflicts in this regard. ok! so basically if i understand correctly what you said, is that if fallen in bad placement, it shd be resurrected by strengthening it (esp when there is no malefic effect, and Me in 8h is no a malefic placement)now, if malefic aspect is there it can produce malefic results - if this is so, then in this case, the Me is recieving rasi aspect from Ra and Ke, that wud increase the malefic results produced by Me. so gemstone of Me here wud help Me to overcome the malefic effect or enhance it's maleficence (acquired from Ra-Ke)? esp so since Me adapts the effect of those that conjoin or aspect it.brgds and thanx for putting up SSsohamsa , " Bharat - Hindu Astrology " <astrologyhindu wrote:>

> I am not responsible for what is written by someone else. You have to ask> the writer's blog for the same.> > Now:> A graha, even when lagnesh, in dusthana if aspected by malefic grahas can> give malefic results. Why so? Because in a dusthana the graha meets a> kshetra where it is repeatedly frustrated and desire fulfillment does not> happen. If it is further aspected by malefics, it becomes very hard for it> to overcome near impossible odds. However, if it is strong it can overcome> the Kshetra and rule over it. In this case, Mercury is in 8th house, which> is not considered as a malefic house for Mercury. A stronger lagna lord> Mercury, in 8th house can help overcome a zillion transformations and sudden> changes in life with viveka and determination. Being a Yogi, it is given> more benevolence.> > Thanks and Regards> Bharat> > > > On 8/3/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote:> >> > how do we reconcile this statement then: > >> > " Hence it must be remembered that a good planet (lords of Lagna, 5th> > and 9th) / Yoga- karaka if placed in a dusthana (6th / 8th/ 12th),> > they can also give malefic results in addition to their inherent > > benefic nature to do good. " > >> > http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish- i.html> >> > brds and thanx a tonne> > SS> >

> > sohamsa <sohamsa%

40>, " Bharat -> > Hindu Astrology " > > <astrologyhindu@> wrote:> > >> > > So you can strengthen Mercury right? > > >> > > Thanks and Regards> > > Bharat> > >> > > On 8/2/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Hi Bharat, > > > >> > > > I wud think placement in dusthana.> > > >> > > > brds,> > > > SS> > > >> > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40gro

ups.com> <sohamsa%> > 40>, " Bharat -> > > > Hindu Astrology " > > > > <astrologyhindu@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Namaste Sri Soul> > > > > > > > > > What is causing the significations to suffer - Is it Mercury or> > its> > > > adverse> > > > > placement?> > > > >> > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > Bharat> > > > >> > > > > On 8/2/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanx again Bharat, > > > > > >> > > > > > but wud'nt the signifactions of 1h and 4h get adversely> > affected> > > > > > simultaneously?> > > > > > > > > > > > brgds,> > > > > >> > > > > > SS> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40><sohamsa% > > 40>, " Bharat -> > > > Hindu Astrology " > > > > > > <astrologyhindu@> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Namaste Sri Soul> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 8th house is where Mercury flourishes. It is also the Yogi.> > It> > > > is in a> > > > > > > powerful navamsha and in Mars's nakshatra and helps in> > > > overcoming the> > > > > > > problems faced in 9th house. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks and Regards> > > > > > > Bharat> > > > > > >> > > > > > > On 8/1/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Bharat,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne for ur input.> > > > > > > > The native was advised to donate greens (veggies) on > > > > Wednesdays -> > > > > > > > perhaps due to Me being in 8h (dusthana), however the> > native> > > > on the> > > > > > > > contrary likes green the best! > > > > > > > > What wud be ur reason of advising Emerald - though what i> > see> > > > is it's> > > > > > > > for lagna lord/yogakaraka (lord kendra+trine)...but am > > > > skeptical> > > > > > > > about placement of the same in dusthana.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > brgds,> > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%

40><sohamsa%> > 40><sohamsa%> > > > 40>, " Bharat -> > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hindu Astrology " > > > > > > > > astrologyhindu@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Sri Soul> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I hope I am not interrupting anything here. Rahu's dasha> > > > will bring> > > > > > > > Sarala> > > > > > > > > Yoga and vipreet raja yoga into action. However 9th> > house> > > > may > > > > > > > > suffer but> > > > > > > > > health should not except for minor ailments.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Ketu being in Sun's nakshatra may harm the 9th house > > > > significations> > > > > > > > even> > > > > > > > > more. I won't advise this person to wear a cat's eye. If> > > > anything > > > > > > > > needs to> > > > > > > > > be done, then, it is worship of Surya Devta. Also, wear> > a> > > > Surya> > > > > > > > numerical > > > > > > > > > yantra.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > In Gemstones, an Emerald is likely to suit this person.> > The > > > > native> > > > > > > > can wear> > > > > > > > > it in gold as a ring or better still as a pendant on the> > > > heart> > > > > > > > chakra.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards> > > > > > > > > Bharat> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On 7/25/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls cud you> > > > explain> > > > > > > > what u> > > > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th from> > Lagnesh> > > > wrt the > > > > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very> > > > bad and> > > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence my > > concern> > > > over> > > > > > > > Lagna> > > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to marriage, native> > > > shd not be> > > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another mssg > > > > (sohamsa) - the> > > > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, silly> > > > mistakes in> > > > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after wearing> > > > that stone> > > > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have done> > him> > > > better to> > > > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h). > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or wud u> > still> > > > suggest> > > > > > > > stone > > > > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve are also> > in> > > > exchange> > > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence the > > question.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne> > > > > > > > > > SS> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%

40><sohamsa%> > 40><sohamsa%40gro> > > > ups.com> > > > > > ><sohamsa%40gro> > > > > > > > ups.com >, Rafal> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Gendarz> > > > > > > > > > <starsuponme@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow more> > dharma> > > > than> > > > > > > > > > occult. In> > > > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.> > > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is Sharada yoga> > > > per BPHS. > > > > > > > > This> > > > > > > > > > yoga> > > > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have> > > > > > > > > > > loose morals. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in marriage until> > > > childbirth.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus? Comeon...> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement, and its in> > > > parivartana> > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big enmity rises> > > > which will > > > > > > > > > > afflict> > > > > > > > > > > comforts and afflict native's rise & marriage life.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good ability in> > > > Jyotish> > > > > > > > > > Vedanga.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz> > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in> > 8h,> > > > Mo in 8h > > > > > > > > > > (marana> > > > > > > > > > > > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify> > delving> > > > into> > > > > > > > occult.> > > > > > > > > > > > Ke in 12h again native may want to look for> > moksha /> > > > > > > > meditative > > > > > > > > > > > > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now)> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but Ke> > is in> > > > Ta> > > > > > > > (weak),> > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but> > there's > > > > exchange> > > > > > > > b/w> > > > > > > > > > Ju> > > > > > > > > > > > and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats eye,> > will> > > > it be> > > > > > > > good or> > > > > > > > > > > > bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but> > wont it > > > > harm the> > > > > > > > > > lagna> > > > > > > > > > > > or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th> > from> > > > lagnesh> > > > > > > > (and> > > > > > > > > > > > Mo/chandra-rasi) ?> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the native> > may> > > > veiw> > > > > > > > > > > > self/body/own intelligence/ perception as a > > > > punishment?> > > > > > > > > > > > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify?> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar, > > india.> > > > > > > > > > > > (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the> > > > discussion> > > > > > > > seems> > > > > > > > > > to be > > > > > > > > > > > > in the direction that i am looking for - so u may> > > > skip ur> > > > > > > > reply> > > > > > > > > > > > there) > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne,> > > > > > > > > > > > SS> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > < vedic astrology%40>, Rafal> > > > Gendarz> > > > > > > > > > > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Asha, > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lets start with basics:> > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara.> > > > This are> > > > > > > > > > > > Oopachaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural> > zodial> > > > (please> > > > > > > > refer> > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > article about free will). Especially we see that> > > > fifth house> > > > > > > > > > from> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of> > > > native (for> > > > > > > > > > example> > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana> > Lord> > > > which> > > > > > > > gives> > > > > > > > > > > > occult> > > > > > > > > > > > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH> > are> > > > very bad> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > shows> > > > > > > > > > > > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem> > to> > > > mantra and> > > > > > > > > > faith> > > > > > > > > > > > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning> > > > this> > > > > > > > bhavas I> > > > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > > > referring to placement from Lagnesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move> > on> > > > platform> > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > > > Dusthanas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha> > between> > > > dusthana> > > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas> > > > depending on> > > > > > > > being in > > > > > > > > > > > > Sura or> > > > > > > > > > > > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra> > > > eugolize > > > > > > > > Buddha> > > > > > > > > > & > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus> > > > > > > > > > > > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in > > eight it> > > > gives> > > > > > > > occult> > > > > > > > > > > > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and> > > > secretive > > > > > > > > nature,> > > > > > > > > > > > advise> > > > > > > > > > > > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in> > > > twelfth can> > > > > > > > give> > > > > > > > > > > > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is> > > > also > > > > > > > > there -> > > > > > > > > > > > Parasara)> > > > > > > > > > > > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H). > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER> > PRIORITY in> > > > reading > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > results.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope it helps. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > > > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th> > and> > > > 12th?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > asha> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > removed]> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > > >

August 6, 2007

Namaste Sri SoulMercury is viveka, discrimination, ability to reason. Suppose you want to reason out what is right or wrong, then, you would need the knowledge of Dharma to do so. If is not able to see Dharma in true light, then, one's judgement will be faulty. This is the reason why Budha-Aditya Yoga is so important. It lets a person takes decision in the light of Trikalajnani Surya Devta. In case when Mercury is associated with malefic grahas (through conjunction or graha drishti), then it may lose its ability to judge in light of dharma. Then, the standards may become the significations of the aspecting of grahas, etc. For example, in the chart under discussion, Mercury is with Moon. So the native is prone to reactiveness and emotional decision making that may be rash to some extent. The person, even on small things, is likely to think that others have disrespected him. Considering this why Emerald?. Because it is the Yogi. Being a Yogi, even when it is away from Surya, it has the capacity to make rational decision making. It needs strength to overcome emotional being. Rahu's rashi drishti will make the environment around him a little deceptive in nature. A strong Mercury can see through the deception of Rahu, especially blessed by Surya and Chandra (being a yogi). Hope the above helps.Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 8/6/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak

> wrote:

Thanx Bharat and Sharat (that rhymes!)

all that is so interesting.

it is understandable that a natural benefic that is weak should be

strenghthened, however,

Me is a nat ben only when well placed - isnt it?

and Me acquires nature of aspecting planets - here it is conj Mo (nat

ben) and asp by Ra and Ke (rasi drishti).

(Yantra and Pooja are agreeable, though)

But why wud we consider Neelam, Sa lords dusthana as well,

and placed in 9h as L-9 is being troublesome to father too or spares

father since lord wud not harm it's own hs, however, placed with nat

karaka for father Su?

Sharat: details are: 09/mar/1994, 12:53 hrs, Amritsar

Thanx a tonne.

sohamsa , " Bharat - Hindu Astrology "

<astrologyhindu wrote:

>

> Namaste Sri Sharat

>

> You can provided it is not a major functional malefic.

>

> In this case, Rahu is aspecting Mercury by Rashi Drishti.

Personally, I take

> rashi drishti to effect change in the kshetra and not the graha.

Therefore,

> for practical purposes strengthening of Mercury will help in this

case. It

> is also important from the point of view of longevity.

>

> The person is only 13 years old and I do not think he should wear a

Blue

> Sapphire right now. Moreover the main question was about something

else and

> that is why I had specified the said remedies in my first post.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

> On 8/4/07, Sharat <gidoc wrote:

> >

> > ||Namah Shivaya||

> > Dear Bharat,

> > Should you not actually strengthen the karaka of the house..if

you feel

> > the lord is weak or in MKS; not specifically here though.

> > Best

> > Sharat

> > PS: I dont recollect her natal chart now, so cant comment on that

> >

> > -

> > ** Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhindu

> > *To:* sohamsa

> > *Sent:* Saturday, August 04, 2007 11:00 AM

> > *Subject:* Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lagnesh in 8th or

12th

> > rafal ji

> >

> > Namaste Sri Soul

> >

> > Due to the malefic effect, the functional benefic is rendered

helpless in

> > many cases and unable to give its effects, thereby, unable to

protect the

> > significations of the houses it owns. In such a case, it is best

to do Puja,

> > strengthen the graha using gemstone and also wearing a Yantra as a

> > protection against any malefic results.

> >

> > Another thing to understand is, we tend to see the malefic results

> > onesidedly. If Rahu aspects Mercury (7th aspect), then, Mercury

also aspects

> > Rahu. In Rahu's dasha, Mercury shall add benefit being the lagna

lord.

> >

> > In this case, Mercury is also the Yogi and therefore, requires to

be

> > strengthened. If there be any doubt, then wear it with Mercury's

numerical

> > Yantra in a Silver locket.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards

> > Bharat

> >

> > On 8/4/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bharat,

> > >

> > > certainly it was not your responsibility but my clarification in

> > > question. it is commonplace for those who start studing

astrology or

> > > for that matter any subject to come across (seemingly)

conflicting

> > > statements and hence seek to arrive at some resolution.

> > > Many thanx for providing your opinion and contributing to the

> > > learning process - sicnerely hoping it will help all those who

read

> > > thru this forum to resolve their own conflicts in this regard.

> > >

> > > ok! so basically if i understand correctly what you said, is

that if

> > > fallen in bad placement, it shd be resurrected by strengthening

it

> > > (esp when there is no malefic effect, and Me in 8h is no a

malefic

> > > placement)

> > > now, if malefic aspect is there it can produce malefic results -

if

> > > this is so, then in this case, the Me is recieving rasi aspect

from

> > > Ra and Ke, that wud increase the malefic results produced by Me.

> > > so gemstone of Me here wud help Me to overcome the malefic

effect or

> > > enhance it's maleficence (acquired from Ra-Ke)?

> > > esp so since Me adapts the effect of those that conjoin or

aspect it.

> > >

> > > brgds and thanx for putting up

> > > SS

> > >

> > > sohamsa <sohamsa%

40>, " Bharat -

> > > Hindu Astrology "

> > > <astrologyhindu@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > I am not responsible for what is written by someone else. You

have

> > > to ask

> > > > the writer's blog for the same.

> > > >

> > > > Now:

> > > > A graha, even when lagnesh, in dusthana if aspected by malefic

> > > grahas can

> > > > give malefic results. Why so? Because in a dusthana the graha

meets

> > > a

> > > > kshetra where it is repeatedly frustrated and desire

fulfillment

> > > does not

> > > > happen. If it is further aspected by malefics, it becomes

very hard

> > > for it

> > > > to overcome near impossible odds. However, if it is strong it

can

> > > overcome

> > > > the Kshetra and rule over it. In this case, Mercury is in 8th

> > > house, which

> > > > is not considered as a malefic house for Mercury. A stronger

lagna

> > > lord

> > > > Mercury, in 8th house can help overcome a zillion

transformations

> > > and sudden

> > > > changes in life with viveka and determination. Being a Yogi,

it is

> > > given

> > > > more benevolence.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > Bharat

> > > >

> > > > On 8/3/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > how do we reconcile this statement then:

> > > > >

> > > > > " Hence it must be remembered that a good planet (lords of

Lagna,

> > > 5th

> > > > > and 9th) / Yoga- karaka if placed in a dusthana (6th / 8th/

12th),

> > > > > they can also give malefic results in addition to their

inherent

> > > > > benefic nature to do good. "

> > > > >

> > > > > http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-

jyotish-

> > > i.html

> > > > >

> > > > > brds and thanx a tonne

> > > > > SS

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40gro

ups.com>

<sohamsa%

> > > 40>, " Bharat -

> > > > > Hindu Astrology "

> > > > > <astrologyhindu@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So you can strengthen Mercury right?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > > Bharat

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 8/2/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi Bharat,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I wud think placement in dusthana.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > brds,

> > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%

40><sohamsa%40gro

> > > ups.com>

> > > <sohamsa%

> > > > > 40>, " Bharat -

> > > > > > > Hindu Astrology "

> > > > > > > <astrologyhindu@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Namaste Sri Soul

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What is causing the significations to suffer - Is it

> > > Mercury or

> > > > > its

> > > > > > > adverse

> > > > > > > > placement?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > > > > Bharat

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > On 8/2/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanx again Bharat,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > but wud'nt the signifactions of 1h and 4h get

adversely

> > > > > affected

> > > > > > > > > simultaneously?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > brgds,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%

40><sohamsa%

> > > 40><sohamsa%

> > > > > 40>, " Bharat -

> > > > > > > Hindu Astrology "

> > > > > > > > > <astrologyhindu@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Namaste Sri Soul

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 8th house is where Mercury flourishes. It is also

the

> > > Yogi.

> > > > > It

> > > > > > > is in a

> > > > > > > > > > powerful navamsha and in Mars's nakshatra and

helps in

> > > > > > > overcoming the

> > > > > > > > > > problems faced in 9th house.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > > > > > > Bharat

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > On 8/1/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bharat,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne for ur input.

> > > > > > > > > > > The native was advised to donate greens

(veggies) on

> > > > > > > Wednesdays -

> > > > > > > > > > > perhaps due to Me being in 8h (dusthana),

however the

> > > > > native

> > > > > > > on the

> > > > > > > > > > > contrary likes green the best!

> > > > > > > > > > > What wud be ur reason of advising Emerald -

though

> > > what i

> > > > > see

> > > > > > > is it's

> > > > > > > > > > > for lagna lord/yogakaraka (lord

kendra+trine)...but am

> > > > > > > skeptical

> > > > > > > > > > > about placement of the same in dusthana.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > brgds,

> > > > > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa

> > > <sohamsa%40><sohamsa%

> > > 40><sohamsa%

> > > > > 40><sohamsa%

> > > > > > > 40>, " Bharat -

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Hindu Astrology "

> > > > > > > > > > > astrologyhindu@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Sri Soul

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I hope I am not interrupting anything here.

Rahu's

> > > dasha

> > > > > > > will bring

> > > > > > > > > > > Sarala

> > > > > > > > > > > > Yoga and vipreet raja yoga into action.

However 9th

> > > > > house

> > > > > > > may

> > > > > > > > > > > suffer but

> > > > > > > > > > > > health should not except for minor ailments.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu being in Sun's nakshatra may harm the

9th house

> > > > > > > significations

> > > > > > > > > > > even

> > > > > > > > > > > > more. I won't advise this person to wear a

cat's

> > > eye. If

> > > > > > > anything

> > > > > > > > > > > needs to

> > > > > > > > > > > > be done, then, it is worship of Surya Devta.

Also,

> > > wear

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > Surya

> > > > > > > > > > > numerical

> > > > > > > > > > > > yantra.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > In Gemstones, an Emerald is likely to suit

this

> > > person.

> > > > > The

> > > > > > > native

> > > > > > > > > > > can wear

> > > > > > > > > > > > it in gold as a ring or better still as a

pendant

> > > on the

> > > > > > > heart

> > > > > > > > > > > chakra.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > Bharat

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/25/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however

pls

> > > cud you

> > > > > > > explain

> > > > > > > > > > > what u

> > > > > > > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th

from

> > > > > Lagnesh

> > > > > > > wrt the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM

LAGNESH are

> > > very

> > > > > > > bad and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " -

hence my

> > > > > concern

> > > > > > > over

> > > > > > > > > > > Lagna

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to

marriage,

> > > native

> > > > > > > shd not be

> > > > > > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in

another mssg

> > > > > > > (sohamsa) - the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-

dreamings,

> > > silly

> > > > > > > mistakes in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced

after

> > > wearing

> > > > > > > that stone

> > > > > > > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud

have

> > > done

> > > > > him

> > > > > > > better to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h).

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or

wud u

> > > > > still

> > > > > > > suggest

> > > > > > > > > > > stone

> > > > > > > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-

Ve are

> > > also

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > exchange

> > > > > > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna -

hence the

> > > > > question.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne

> > > > > > > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%

40><sohamsa%

> > > 40><sohamsa%

> > > > > 40><sohamsa%40gro

> > > > > > > ups.com

> > > > > > > > > ><sohamsa%40gro

> > > > > > > > > > > ups.com >, Rafal

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Gendarz

> > > > > > > > > > > > > <starsuponme@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to

follow more

> > > > > dharma

> > > > > > > than

> > > > > > > > > > > > > occult. In

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is

Sharada

> > > yoga

> > > > > > > per BPHS.

> > > > > > > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > > > > > > yoga

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > loose morals.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in

marriage

> > > until

> > > > > > > childbirth.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus?

Comeon...

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement,

and its

> > > in

> > > > > > > parivartana

> > > > > > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big

enmity

> > > rises

> > > > > > > which will

> > > > > > > > > > > > > afflict

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > comforts and afflict native's rise &

marriage

> > > life.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good

> > > ability in

> > > > > > > Jyotish

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedanga.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh

(Me) is

> > > in

> > > > > 8h,

> > > > > > > Mo in 8h

> > > > > > > > > > > > > (marana

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud

signify

> > > > > delving

> > > > > > > into

> > > > > > > > > > > occult.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ke in 12h again native may want to look

for

> > > > > moksha /

> > > > > > > > > > > meditative

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u

said), but

> > > Ke

> > > > > is in

> > > > > > > Ta

> > > > > > > > > > > (weak),

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h

(but

> > > > > there's

> > > > > > > exchange

> > > > > > > > > > > b/w

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ju

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and Ve too) - now if the native wears

cats

> > > eye,

> > > > > will

> > > > > > > it be

> > > > > > > > > > > good or

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bad - good from spiritual point of

veiw - but

> > > > > wont it

> > > > > > > harm the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > lagna

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh,

being 5th

> > > > > from

> > > > > > > lagnesh

> > > > > > > > > > > (and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo/chandra-rasi) ?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so

the

> > > native

> > > > > may

> > > > > > > veiw

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > self/body/own intelligence/ perception

as a

> > > > > > > punishment?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh

signify?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm,

amritsar,

> > > > > india.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (have posted this at sohamsa too, but

here the

> > > > > > > discussion

> > > > > > > > > > > seems

> > > > > > > > > > > > > to be

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the direction that i am looking for -

so u

> > > may

> > > > > > > skip ur

> > > > > > > > > > > reply

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < vedic astrology%

40>,

> > > Rafal

> > > > > > > Gendarz

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Asha,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lets start with basics:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- -----

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of

Danda and

> > > Hara.

> > > > > > > This are

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oopachaya

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in

natural

> > > > > zodial

> > > > > > > (please

> > > > > > > > > > > refer

> > > > > > > > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > article about free will). Especially

we see

> > > that

> > > > > > > fifth house

> > > > > > > > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows

> > > likings of

> > > > > > > native (for

> > > > > > > > > > > > > example

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as

> > > Karana

> > > > > Lord

> > > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > > > gives

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > occult

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM

> > > LAGNESH

> > > > > are

> > > > > > > very bad

> > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shows

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also

> > > problem

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > mantra and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > faith

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while

> > > mentioning

> > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > > > > bhavas I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > referring to placement from Lagnesh.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now if we talk about eight and

twelfth we

> > > move

> > > > > on

> > > > > > > platform

> > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dusthanas.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now this depends on placement and

sambandha

> > > > > between

> > > > > > > dusthana

> > > > > > > > > > > > > lord

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh, and also about category of

grahas

> > > > > > > depending on

> > > > > > > > > > > being in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sura or

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Asura group, therefore You will see

that

> > > Sastra

> > > > > > > eugolize

> > > > > > > > > > > Buddha

> > > > > > > > > > > > > &

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh

is in

> > > > > eight it

> > > > > > > gives

> > > > > > > > > > > occult

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous

attitude and

> > > > > > > secretive

> > > > > > > > > > > nature,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > advise

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for these people are to go abroad.

Lagnesh

> > > in

> > > > > > > twelfth can

> > > > > > > > > > > give

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when

> > > Shukra is

> > > > > > > also

> > > > > > > > > > > there -

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Parasara)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on

6H).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course other factors can have

HIGHER

> > > > > PRIORITY in

> > > > > > > reading

> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > results.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope it helps.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what

about

> > > 8th

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > 12th?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats

the

> > > result

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the

> > > result?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > asha

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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