lagnesh in 8th or 12th rafal ji

July 23, 2007

Rafal ji,

Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and 12th?

if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result

and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result?

asha

July 23, 2007

*hraum namah adityaya*

Dear Asha,

Lets start with basics:

--------------------------

SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana)

Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. This are Oopachaya

house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial (please refer my

article about free will). Especially we see that fifth house from

Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of native (for example in

my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord which gives occult

vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and shows

what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to mantra and faith

(maraka from mantra-bhava). So while mentioning this bhavas I was

referring to placement from Lagnesh.

EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana)

Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on platform of Dusthanas.

Now this depends on placement and sambandha between dusthana lord and

Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas depending on being in Sura or

Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra eugolize Buddha & Venus

position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it gives occult

knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and secretive nature, advise

for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in twelfth can give

sacrificing/donating nature (esp when Shukra is also there - Parasara)

but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H).

Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in reading the results.

Hope it helps.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

ASHA napisa?(a):

>

> Rafal ji,

> Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and 12th?

> if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result

> and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result?

> asha

>

July 23, 2007

Rafalji, just for learning interest- I am having a doubt. When

Lagnesh venus is in 12th, Venus in that place gives material

comforts. Aspect on 6th house, Venus in that house gives secret

diseases. What about the character/morality of that individual with

lagnesh in 12th. How can venus in 12th give raise to sacrifice/giving

tendencies. Can you please clarify

bhagavathi

vedic astrology , Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme wrote:

>

> *hraum namah adityaya*

>

> Dear Asha,

>

> Lets start with basics:

> --------------------------

>

> SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana)

>

> Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. This are

Oopachaya

> house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial (please refer my

> article about free will). Especially we see that fifth house from

> Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of native (for example

in

> my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord which gives

occult

> vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and

shows

> what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to mantra and faith

> (maraka from mantra-bhava). So while mentioning this bhavas I was

> referring to placement from Lagnesh.

>

> EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana)

>

> Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on platform of

Dusthanas.

> Now this depends on placement and sambandha between dusthana lord

and

> Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas depending on being in

Sura or

> Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra eugolize Buddha &

Venus

> position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it gives occult

> knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and secretive nature,

advise

> for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in twelfth can give

> sacrificing/donating nature (esp when Shukra is also there -

Parasara)

> but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H).

>

> Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in reading the

results.

>

> Hope it helps.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

>

> ASHA napisa?(a):

> >

> > Rafal ji,

> > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and 12th?

> > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result

> > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result?

> > asha

> >

>

July 24, 2007

Dear Rafal,

in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in 8h, Mo in 8h (marana

karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify delving into occult.

Ke in 12h again native may want to look for moksha / meditative

tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now)

Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but Ke is in Ta (weak),

aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but there's exchange b/w Ju

and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats eye, will it be good or

bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but wont it harm the lagna

or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th from lagnesh (and

Mo/chandra-rasi)?

Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the native may veiw

self/body/own intelligence/perception as a punishment?

what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify?

birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar, india.

(have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the discussion seems to be

in the direction that i am looking for - so u may skip ur reply

there)

Thanx a tonne,

SS

vedic astrology , Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme wrote:

>

> *hraum namah adityaya*

>

> Dear Asha,

>

> Lets start with basics:

> --------------------------

>

> SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana)

>

> Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. This are

Oopachaya

> house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial (please refer my

> article about free will). Especially we see that fifth house from

> Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of native (for example

in

> my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord which gives

occult

> vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and

shows

> what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to mantra and faith

> (maraka from mantra-bhava). So while mentioning this bhavas I was

> referring to placement from Lagnesh.

>

> EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana)

>

> Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on platform of

Dusthanas.

> Now this depends on placement and sambandha between dusthana lord

and

> Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas depending on being in

Sura or

> Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra eugolize Buddha &

Venus

> position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it gives occult

> knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and secretive nature,

advise

> for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in twelfth can give

> sacrificing/donating nature (esp when Shukra is also there -

Parasara)

> but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H).

>

> Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in reading the

results.

>

> Hope it helps.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

>

> ASHA napisa?(a):

> >

> > Rafal ji,

> > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and 12th?

> > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result

> > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result?

> > asha

> >

>

July 24, 2007

Dear Rafalji,

Suppose somebody has lagnesh in the 8th house and he moves to

foreign country with his parents in his childhood. will that be

considered going to foreign country or he has to move again when he

grows up?

Thanks,

Nutan

- In vedic astrology , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme

wrote:

>

> *hraum namah adityaya*

>

> Dear Asha,

>

> Lets start with basics:

> --------------------------

>

> SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana)

>

> Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. This are Oopachaya

> house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial (please refer my

> article about free will). Especially we see that fifth house from

> Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of native (for example in

> my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord which gives occult

> vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and shows

> what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to mantra and faith

> (maraka from mantra-bhava). So while mentioning this bhavas I was

> referring to placement from Lagnesh.

>

> EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana)

>

> Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on platform of

Dusthanas.

> Now this depends on placement and sambandha between dusthana lord and

> Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas depending on being in

Sura or

> Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra eugolize Buddha & Venus

> position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it gives occult

> knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and secretive nature, advise

> for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in twelfth can give

> sacrificing/donating nature (esp when Shukra is also there - Parasara)

> but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H).

>

> Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in reading the results.

>

> Hope it helps.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

>

> ASHA napisa?(a):

> >

> > Rafal ji,

> > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and 12th?

> > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result

> > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result?

> > asha

> >

>

July 24, 2007

*hraum namah adityaya*

Dear Bhagavati,

*EVERY benefic in second and/or twelfth gives comfort - Shubha Yoga, but

that is not neccesarily good for marriage.

*Secret diseases? Whats that? you mean adhisthana or way of forming?

Badhakesh rather gives that..otherwise vyaya bhava has nothing to do

with private parts.

*Venus in Twelfth can give good donations. This should be also seen from

Karakamsa (See BPHS). If You mean donation of material good then without

checking AL you will be misguided

*Lagnesh placement ALONE, has nothing to do with morality.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

bhagavathi_hariharan napisa?(a):

>

> Rafalji, just for learning interest- I am having a doubt. When

> Lagnesh venus is in 12th, Venus in that place gives material

> comforts. Aspect on 6th house, Venus in that house gives secret

> diseases. What about the character/morality of that individual with

> lagnesh in 12th. How can venus in 12th give raise to sacrifice/giving

> tendencies. Can you please clarify

>

> bhagavathi

>

> vedic astrology

> <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz

> <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > *hraum namah adityaya*

> >

> > Dear Asha,

> >

> > Lets start with basics:

> > ------------ --------- -----

> >

> > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana)

> >

> > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. This are

> Oopachaya

> > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial (please refer my

> > article about free will). Especially we see that fifth house from

> > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of native (for example

> in

> > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord which gives

> occult

> > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and

> shows

> > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to mantra and faith

> > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning this bhavas I was

> > referring to placement from Lagnesh.

> >

> > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana)

> >

> > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on platform of

> Dusthanas.

> > Now this depends on placement and sambandha between dusthana lord

> and

> > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas depending on being in

> Sura or

> > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra eugolize Buddha &

> Venus

> > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it gives occult

> > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and secretive nature,

> advise

> > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in twelfth can give

> > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is also there -

> Parasara)

> > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H).

> >

> > Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in reading the

> results.

> >

> > Hope it helps.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rafal Gendarz

> > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > email: rafal

> > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> >

> > ASHA napisa?(a):

> > >

> > > Rafal ji,

> > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and 12th?

> > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result

> > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result?

> > > asha

> > >

> >

July 24, 2007

*hraum namah adityaya*

Dear Soul Sadhak,

1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow more dharma than occult. In

bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.

Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is Sharada yoga per BPHS. This yoga

is in Upapada also so spouse can have

loose morals.

2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in marriage until childbirth.

3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus? Comeon...

4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement, and its in parivartana with

Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big enmity rises which will afflict

comforts and afflict native's rise & marriage life.

5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good ability in Jyotish Vedanga.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

>

> Dear Rafal,

>

> in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in 8h, Mo in 8h (marana

> karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify delving into occult.

> Ke in 12h again native may want to look for moksha / meditative

> tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now)

>

> Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but Ke is in Ta (weak),

> aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but there's exchange b/w Ju

> and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats eye, will it be good or

> bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but wont it harm the lagna

> or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th from lagnesh (and

> Mo/chandra-rasi) ?

>

> Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the native may veiw

> self/body/own intelligence/ perception as a punishment?

> what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify?

>

> birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar, india.

> (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the discussion seems to be

> in the direction that i am looking for - so u may skip ur reply

> there)

>

> Thanx a tonne,

> SS

>

> vedic astrology

> <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz

> <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > *hraum namah adityaya*

> >

> > Dear Asha,

> >

> > Lets start with basics:

> > ------------ --------- -----

> >

> > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana)

> >

> > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. This are

> Oopachaya

> > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial (please refer my

> > article about free will). Especially we see that fifth house from

> > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of native (for example

> in

> > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord which gives

> occult

> > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and

> shows

> > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to mantra and faith

> > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning this bhavas I was

> > referring to placement from Lagnesh.

> >

> > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana)

> >

> > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on platform of

> Dusthanas.

> > Now this depends on placement and sambandha between dusthana lord

> and

> > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas depending on being in

> Sura or

> > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra eugolize Buddha &

> Venus

> > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it gives occult

> > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and secretive nature,

> advise

> > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in twelfth can give

> > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is also there -

> Parasara)

> > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H).

> >

> > Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in reading the

> results.

> >

> > Hope it helps.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rafal Gendarz

> > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > email: rafal

> > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> >

> > ASHA napisa?(a):

> > >

> > > Rafal ji,

> > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and 12th?

> > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result

> > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result?

> > > asha

> > >

> >

July 24, 2007

Rafalji,

I am indeed thankful to you for prompt resposes. I feel this group is

now enriched with your presence. let us use this only for knowledge

sake.

My humble pranams

vedic astrology , Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme wrote:

>

> *hraum namah adityaya*

>

> Dear Bhagavati,

>

> *EVERY benefic in second and/or twelfth gives comfort - Shubha

Yoga, but

> that is not neccesarily good for marriage.

>

> *Secret diseases? Whats that? you mean adhisthana or way of

forming?

> Badhakesh rather gives that..otherwise vyaya bhava has nothing to

do

> with private parts.

>

> *Venus in Twelfth can give good donations. This should be also seen

from

> Karakamsa (See BPHS). If You mean donation of material good then

without

> checking AL you will be misguided

>

> *Lagnesh placement ALONE, has nothing to do with morality.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

>

> bhagavathi_hariharan napisa?(a):

> >

> > Rafalji, just for learning interest- I am having a doubt. When

> > Lagnesh venus is in 12th, Venus in that place gives material

> > comforts. Aspect on 6th house, Venus in that house gives secret

> > diseases. What about the character/morality of that individual

with

> > lagnesh in 12th. How can venus in 12th give raise to

sacrifice/giving

> > tendencies. Can you please clarify

> >

> > bhagavathi

> >

> > vedic astrology

> > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz

> > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > >

> > > Dear Asha,

> > >

> > > Lets start with basics:

> > > ------------ --------- -----

> > >

> > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana)

> > >

> > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. This are

> > Oopachaya

> > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial (please refer

my

> > > article about free will). Especially we see that fifth house

from

> > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of native (for

example

> > in

> > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord which gives

> > occult

> > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and

> > shows

> > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to mantra and

faith

> > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning this bhavas I

was

> > > referring to placement from Lagnesh.

> > >

> > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana)

> > >

> > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on platform of

> > Dusthanas.

> > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha between dusthana

lord

> > and

> > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas depending on being in

> > Sura or

> > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra eugolize Buddha

&

> > Venus

> > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it gives occult

> > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and secretive nature,

> > advise

> > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in twelfth can give

> > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is also there -

> > Parasara)

> > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H).

> > >

> > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in reading the

> > results.

> > >

> > > Hope it helps.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > email: rafal@

> > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > >

> > > ASHA napisa?(a):

> > > >

> > > > Rafal ji,

> > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and 12th?

> > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result

> > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result?

> > > > asha

> > > >

> > >

July 24, 2007

Yes, It's true.

Rafal is a great teacher and a great student, both togather.

He is obliging us by sharing his knowledge and there are other good

astroogers too, and those arrogants with their vision problems are

filtered out.

regards,

Lalit.

vedic astrology , " bhagavathi_hariharan "

<bhagavathi_hariharan wrote:

>

> Rafalji,

>

> I am indeed thankful to you for prompt resposes. I feel this group

is

> now enriched with your presence. let us use this only for knowledge

> sake.

>

> My humble pranams

>

> vedic astrology , Rafal Gendarz

> <starsuponme@> wrote:

> >

> > *hraum namah adityaya*

> >

> > Dear Bhagavati,

> >

> > *EVERY benefic in second and/or twelfth gives comfort - Shubha

> Yoga, but

> > that is not neccesarily good for marriage.

> >

> > *Secret diseases? Whats that? you mean adhisthana or way of

> forming?

> > Badhakesh rather gives that..otherwise vyaya bhava has nothing to

> do

> > with private parts.

> >

> > *Venus in Twelfth can give good donations. This should be also

seen

> from

> > Karakamsa (See BPHS). If You mean donation of material good then

> without

> > checking AL you will be misguided

> >

> > *Lagnesh placement ALONE, has nothing to do with morality.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rafal Gendarz

> > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > email: rafal@

> > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

> >

> > bhagavathi_hariharan napisa?(a):

> > >

> > > Rafalji, just for learning interest- I am having a doubt. When

> > > Lagnesh venus is in 12th, Venus in that place gives material

> > > comforts. Aspect on 6th house, Venus in that house gives secret

> > > diseases. What about the character/morality of that individual

> with

> > > lagnesh in 12th. How can venus in 12th give raise to

> sacrifice/giving

> > > tendencies. Can you please clarify

> > >

> > > bhagavathi

> > >

> > > vedic astrology

> > > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz

> > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > >

> > > > Dear Asha,

> > > >

> > > > Lets start with basics:

> > > > ------------ --------- -----

> > > >

> > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana)

> > > >

> > > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. This are

> > > Oopachaya

> > > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial (please

refer

> my

> > > > article about free will). Especially we see that fifth house

> from

> > > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of native (for

> example

> > > in

> > > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord which gives

> > > occult

> > > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and

> > > shows

> > > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to mantra and

> faith

> > > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning this bhavas

I

> was

> > > > referring to placement from Lagnesh.

> > > >

> > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana)

> > > >

> > > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on platform of

> > > Dusthanas.

> > > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha between dusthana

> lord

> > > and

> > > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas depending on being

in

> > > Sura or

> > > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra eugolize

Buddha

> &

> > > Venus

> > > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it gives

occult

> > > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and secretive nature,

> > > advise

> > > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in twelfth can give

> > > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is also there -

> > > Parasara)

> > > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H).

> > > >

> > > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in reading

the

> > > results.

> > > >

> > > > Hope it helps.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > email: rafal@

> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > >

> > > > ASHA napisa?(a):

> > > > >

> > > > > Rafal ji,

> > > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and 12th?

> > > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result

> > > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result?

> > > > > asha

> > > > >

> > > >

July 24, 2007

Dear Rafal,

thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls cud you explain what u

said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt the

chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and

> > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern over Lagna

6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.

Also, if Ke is causing such touble to marriage, native shd not be

wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another mssg (sohamsa) - the

native was facing problem like day-dreamings, silly mistakes in

studies etc. which he says were reduced after wearing that stone

(hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have done him better to

treat this Ke (in 12h).

Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or wud u still suggest stone

for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve are also in exchange

here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence the question.

Thanx a tonne

SS

vedic astrology , Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme wrote:

>

> *hraum namah adityaya*

>

> Dear Soul Sadhak,

>

> 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow more dharma than

occult. In

> bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.

> Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is Sharada yoga per BPHS. This

yoga

> is in Upapada also so spouse can have

> loose morals.

>

> 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in marriage until childbirth.

>

> 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus? Comeon...

>

> 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement, and its in parivartana with

> Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big enmity rises which will

afflict

> comforts and afflict native's rise & marriage life.

>

> 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good ability in Jyotish

Vedanga.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

>

> Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> >

> > Dear Rafal,

> >

> > in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in 8h, Mo in 8h

(marana

> > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify delving into occult.

> > Ke in 12h again native may want to look for moksha / meditative

> > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now)

> >

> > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but Ke is in Ta (weak),

> > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but there's exchange b/w

Ju

> > and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats eye, will it be good or

> > bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but wont it harm the

lagna

> > or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th from lagnesh (and

> > Mo/chandra-rasi) ?

> >

> > Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the native may veiw

> > self/body/own intelligence/ perception as a punishment?

> > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify?

> >

> > birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar, india.

> > (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the discussion seems

to be

> > in the direction that i am looking for - so u may skip ur reply

> > there)

> >

> > Thanx a tonne,

> > SS

> >

> > vedic astrology

> > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz

> > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > >

> > > Dear Asha,

> > >

> > > Lets start with basics:

> > > ------------ --------- -----

> > >

> > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana)

> > >

> > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. This are

> > Oopachaya

> > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial (please refer

my

> > > article about free will). Especially we see that fifth house

from

> > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of native (for

example

> > in

> > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord which gives

> > occult

> > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and

> > shows

> > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to mantra and

faith

> > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning this bhavas I

was

> > > referring to placement from Lagnesh.

> > >

> > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana)

> > >

> > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on platform of

> > Dusthanas.

> > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha between dusthana

lord

> > and

> > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas depending on being in

> > Sura or

> > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra eugolize Buddha

&

> > Venus

> > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it gives occult

> > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and secretive nature,

> > advise

> > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in twelfth can give

> > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is also there -

> > Parasara)

> > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H).

> > >

> > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in reading the

> > results.

> > >

> > > Hope it helps.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > email: rafal@

> > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > >

> > > ASHA napisa?(a):

> > > >

> > > > Rafal ji,

> > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and 12th?

> > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result

> > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result?

> > > > asha

> > > >

> > >

July 25, 2007

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Soul Sadhak,

1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would be in seventh bhava we

will perscribe Coral and everything will be nice..No its not like that.

Please read VRA section about Gem perscription. Yes, Ucchista Ganapati

worship is neccesary.

2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in ninth) with Kamala

Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated). This will allow to marry without delay.

Then after that Narayana Mantra will be important to sustain marriage.

He has 3 yogas which shows gain from inheritance.

He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti, interest in medicine and

good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and will be strong warrior

and he can have buisness with printing books or working with

publishing. He can also gain from occult and will be know as sensitive

and dynamic person.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

Soul Sadhak napisał(a):

Dear Rafal,

thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls cud you explain what u

said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt the

chart. "while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and

> > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU" - hence my

concern over Lagna

6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.

Also, if Ke is causing such touble to marriage, native shd not be

wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another mssg (sohamsa) - the

native was facing problem like day-dreamings, silly mistakes in

studies etc. which he says were reduced after wearing that stone

(hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have done him better to

treat this Ke (in 12h).

Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or wud u still suggest stone

for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve are also in exchange

here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence the question.

Thanx a tonne

SS

sohamsa@

..com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

>

> *hraum namah adityaya*

>

> Dear Soul Sadhak,

>

> 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow more dharma than

occult. In

> bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.

> Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is Sharada yoga per BPHS.

This

yoga

> is in Upapada also so spouse can have

> loose morals.

>

> 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in marriage until childbirth.

>

> 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus? Comeon...

>

> 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement, and its in parivartana with

> Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big enmity rises which will

afflict

> comforts and afflict native's rise & marriage life.

>

> 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good ability in Jyotish

Vedanga.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

>

> Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> >

> > Dear Rafal,

> >

> > in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in 8h, Mo in 8h

(marana

> > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify delving into

occult.

> > Ke in 12h again native may want to look for moksha /

meditative

> > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now)

> >

> > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but Ke is in Ta

(weak),

> > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but there's exchange

b/w

Ju

> > and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats eye, will it be

good or

> > bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but wont it harm

the

lagna

> > or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th from lagnesh

(and

> > Mo/chandra-rasi) ?

> >

> > Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the native may veiw

> > self/body/own intelligence/ perception as a punishment?

> > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify?

> >

> > birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar, india.

> > (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the discussion

seems

to be

> > in the direction that i am looking for - so u may skip ur

reply

> > there)

> >

> > Thanx a tonne,

> > SS

> >

> > vedic astrology

> > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, Rafal

Gendarz

> > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > >

> > > Dear Asha,

> > >

> > > Lets start with basics:

> > > ------------ --------- -----

> > >

> > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana)

> > >

> > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. This are

> > Oopachaya

> > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial

(please refer

my

> > > article about free will). Especially we see that fifth

house

from

> > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of native

(for

example

> > in

> > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord which

gives

> > occult

> > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very

bad and

> > shows

> > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to mantra

and

faith

> > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning this

bhavas I

was

> > > referring to placement from Lagnesh.

> > >

> > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana)

> > >

> > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on

platform of

> > Dusthanas.

> > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha between

dusthana

lord

> > and

> > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas depending on

being in

> > Sura or

> > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra eugolize

Buddha

&

> > Venus

> > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it

gives occult

> > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and secretive

nature,

> > advise

> > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in twelfth

can give

> > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is also

there -

> > Parasara)

> > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H).

> > >

> > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in

reading the

> > results.

> > >

> > > Hope it helps.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > email: rafal@

> > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > >

> > > ASHA napisa?(a):

> > > >

> > > > Rafal ji,

> > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and

12th?

> > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result

> > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result?

> > > > asha

> > > >

> > >

July 25, 2007

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Soul Sadhak,

1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather Purna-Yoga which

cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if L,LL, AL are

involved). One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native.

2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or rather should go).

Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture. These kind of people

doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6 to Lagna).

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

Soul Sadhak napisał(a):

Dear Rafal,

Thanx so much again for ur response and further elaboration, however

i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put a logic for Ma/coral

or any other logic - my question is that by exchnage if Ra is now in

9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka sthana - and for Ra

in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence was the question

that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give the stone or avoid it.

I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was using this pg as the ref:

http://varahamihira

..blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in-jyotish- i.html

the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by what pg279 point 3) in

VRA says.

So probably Guru Mantra wud be better?

and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa to arrive at the

mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this chart:

http://

..org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part- 1.pdf

Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra is also in ninth,

wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of the latter factor?

Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given - but wud not apply here

since it is inimical to Me?

Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra recommended or do we go

only for the lord of 9h for mantra?

Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on:

ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt this

chart. "while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and

shows what one sees as RIPU" - hence my concern over Lagna being 6th

from lagnesh.

Thanx again

SS

sohamsa@

..com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

>

> *hraum namah adityaya*

>

> Dear Soul Sadhak,

>

> 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would be in seventh

bhava

we

> will perscribe Coral and everything will be nice..No its not like

that.

> Please read VRA section about Gem perscription. Yes, Ucchista

Ganapati

> worship is neccesary.

>

> 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in ninth) with Kamala

> Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This will allow to marry without

delay.

> Then after that Narayana Mantra will be important to sustain

marriage.

>

> He has 3 yogas which shows gain from inheritance.

>

> He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti, interest in

medicine

and

> good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and will be strong

warrior

> and he can have buisness with printing books or working with

publishing.

> He can also gain from occult and will be know as sensitive and

dynamic

> person.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

>

> Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> >

> > Dear Rafal,

> >

> > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls cud you

explain

what u

> > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt

the

> > chart. "while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and

> > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU" - hence

my concern over

Lagna

> > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.

> >

> > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to marriage, native shd

not be

> > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another mssg (sohamsa) -

the

> > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, silly mistakes

in

> > studies etc. which he says were reduced after wearing that

stone

> > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have done him

better to

> > treat this Ke (in 12h).

> >

> > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or wud u still

suggest

stone

> > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve are also in

exchange

> > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence the question.

> >

> > Thanx a tonne

> > SS

> >

> > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%

40. com>,

> > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > >

> > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > >

> > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow more dharma

than

> > occult. In

> > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.

> > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is Sharada yoga per

BPHS.

This

> > yoga

> > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have

> > > loose morals.

> > >

> > > 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in marriage until

childbirth.

> > >

> > > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus? Comeon...

> > >

> > > 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement, and its in

parivartana

with

> > > Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big enmity rises

which will

> > afflict

> > > comforts and afflict native's rise & marriage life.

> > >

> > > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good ability in

Jyotish

> > Vedanga.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > email: rafal@

> > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > >

> > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > >

> > > > in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in 8h,

Mo in 8h

> > (marana

> > > > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify

delving into

occult.

> > > > Ke in 12h again native may want to look for moksha

/

meditative

> > > > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now)

> > > >

> > > > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but Ke is

in Ta

(weak),

> > > > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but there's

exchange

b/w

> > Ju

> > > > and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats eye,

will it be

good or

> > > > bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but wont

it harm the

> > lagna

> > > > or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th from

lagnesh

(and

> > > > Mo/chandra-rasi) ?

> > > >

> > > > Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the native

may veiw

> > > > self/body/own intelligence/ perception as a

punishment?

> > > > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify?

> > > >

> > > > birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar, india.

> > > > (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the

discussion

seems

> > to be

> > > > in the direction that i am looking for - so u may

skip ur

reply

> > > > there)

> > > >

> > > > Thanx a tonne,

> > > > SS

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology

> > > > <vedic- astrology% 40.

com>, Rafal Gendarz

> > > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Asha,

> > > > >

> > > > > Lets start with basics:

> > > > > ------------ --------- -----

> > > > >

> > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana)

> > > > >

> > > > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and

Hara. This are

> > > > Oopachaya

> > > > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural

zodial (please

refer

> > my

> > > > > article about free will). Especially we see

that fifth house

> > from

> > > > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings

of native (for

> > example

> > > > in

> > > > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana

Lord which

gives

> > > > occult

> > > > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH

are very bad

and

> > > > shows

> > > > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem

to mantra and

> > faith

> > > > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while

mentioning this

bhavas I

> > was

> > > > > referring to placement from Lagnesh.

> > > > >

> > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana)

> > > > >

> > > > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move

on platform

of

> > > > Dusthanas.

> > > > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha

between dusthana

> > lord

> > > > and

> > > > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas

depending on

being in

> > > > Sura or

> > > > > Asura group, therefore You will see that

Sastra eugolize

Buddha

> > &

> > > > Venus

> > > > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in

eight it gives

occult

> > > > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and

secretive

nature,

> > > > advise

> > > > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in

twelfth can

give

> > > > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra

is also

there -

> > > > Parasara)

> > > > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H).

> > > > >

> > > > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER

PRIORITY in reading

the

> > > > results.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hope it helps.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > >

> > > > > ASHA napisa?(a):

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rafal ji,

> > > > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about

8th and 12th?

> > > > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the

result

> > > > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the

result?

> > > > > > asha

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 25, 2007

Dear Rafalji,

What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and the 12th

lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty. How to

offset this lagna by remedial measures. The problem

becomes compounded because the lagna lord is Venus

with Taurus ascendant.

Regards

Manoj

--- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

> *hraum namah adityaya*

>

> Dear Soul Sadhak,

>

> 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather

> Purna-Yoga which

> cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if

> L,LL, AL are involved).

> One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native.

>

> 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or

> rather should go).

> Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture.

> These kind of people

> doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6

> to Lagna).

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

>

> Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> >

> > Dear Rafal,

> >

> > Thanx so much again for ur response and further

> elaboration, however

> > i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put a

> logic for Ma/coral

> > or any other logic - my question is that by

> exchnage if Ra is now in

> > 9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka

> sthana - and for Ra

> > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence

> was the question

> > that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give the

> stone or avoid it.

> >

> > I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was using

> this pg as the ref:

> > http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/

> 10/gemstones- in-jyotish-

> > i.html

> >

>

<http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish-i.html>

> >

> > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by

> what pg279 point 3) in

> > VRA says.

> >

> > So probably Guru Mantra wud be better?

> >

> > and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa

> to arrive at the

> > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this

> chart:

> > http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/

> SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part-

> > 1.pdf

>

<http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part-1.pdf>

> >

> > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra

> is also in ninth,

> > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of the

> latter factor?

> >

> > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given - but

> wud not apply here

> > since it is inimical to Me?

> > Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra

> recommended or do we go

> > only for the lord of 9h for mantra?

> >

> > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on:

> > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt

> this

> > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are

> very bad and

> > shows what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern

> over Lagna being 6th

> > from lagnesh.

> >

> > Thanx again

> > SS

> >

> > sohamsa@ .com

> <sohamsa%40>,

> > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > >

> > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > >

> > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would

> be in seventh bhava

> > we

> > > will perscribe Coral and everything will be

> nice..No its not like

> > that.

> > > Please read VRA section about Gem perscription.

> Yes, Ucchista

> > Ganapati

> > > worship is neccesary.

> > >

> > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in

> ninth) with Kamala

> > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This will allow

> to marry without

> > delay.

> > > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be

> important to sustain

> > marriage.

> > >

> > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from

> inheritance.

> > >

> > > He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti,

> interest in medicine

> > and

> > > good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and

> will be strong

> > warrior

> > > and he can have buisness with printing books or

> working with

> > publishing.

> > > He can also gain from occult and will be know as

> sensitive and

> > dynamic

> > > person.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > email: rafal

> > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > >

> > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > >

> > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls

> cud you explain

> > what u

> > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th

> from Lagnesh wrt the

> > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH

> are very bad and

> > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence

> my concern over

> > Lagna

> > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.

> > > >

> > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to

> marriage, native shd not be

> > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another

> mssg (sohamsa) - the

> > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings,

> silly mistakes in

> > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after

> wearing that stone

> > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have

> done him better to

> > > > treat this Ke (in 12h).

> > > >

> > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or

> wud u still suggest

> > stone

> > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve

> are also in exchange

> > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence

> the question.

> > > >

> > > > Thanx a tonne

> > > > SS

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa@ .com

> <sohamsa%

> > 40. com>,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow

> more dharma than

> > > > occult. In

> > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.

> > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is

> Sharada yoga per BPHS.

> > This

> > > > yoga

> > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have

> > > > > loose morals.

> > > > >

>

=== message truncated ===

July 25, 2007

|OM GURAVE NAMAH|

Dear Rafal,

How do we time the transformation due to parivartana. Visti ji

mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there any other methods.

Thank you.

Regards

Supriti

sohamsa , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000

wrote:

>

> Dear Rafalji,

> What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and the 12th

> lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty. How to

> offset this lagna by remedial measures. The problem

> becomes compounded because the lagna lord is Venus

> with Taurus ascendant.

> Regards

> Manoj

> --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

>

> > *hraum namah adityaya*

> >

> > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> >

> > 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather

> > Purna-Yoga which

> > cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if

> > L,LL, AL are involved).

> > One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native.

> >

> > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or

> > rather should go).

> > Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture.

> > These kind of people

> > doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6

> > to Lagna).

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rafal Gendarz

> > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > email: rafal

> > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

> >

> > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > >

> > > Dear Rafal,

> > >

> > > Thanx so much again for ur response and further

> > elaboration, however

> > > i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put a

> > logic for Ma/coral

> > > or any other logic - my question is that by

> > exchnage if Ra is now in

> > > 9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka

> > sthana - and for Ra

> > > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence

> > was the question

> > > that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give the

> > stone or avoid it.

> > >

> > > I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was using

> > this pg as the ref:

> > > http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/

> > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish-

> > > i.html

> > >

> >

> <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish-

i.html>

> > >

> > > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by

> > what pg279 point 3) in

> > > VRA says.

> > >

> > > So probably Guru Mantra wud be better?

> > >

> > > and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa

> > to arrive at the

> > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this

> > chart:

> > > http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/

> > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part-

> > > 1.pdf

> >

> <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part-1.pdf>

> > >

> > > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra

> > is also in ninth,

> > > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of the

> > latter factor?

> > >

> > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given - but

> > wud not apply here

> > > since it is inimical to Me?

> > > Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra

> > recommended or do we go

> > > only for the lord of 9h for mantra?

> > >

> > > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on:

> > > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt

> > this

> > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are

> > very bad and

> > > shows what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern

> > over Lagna being 6th

> > > from lagnesh.

> > >

> > > Thanx again

> > > SS

> > >

> > > sohamsa@ .com

> > <sohamsa%40>,

> > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > >

> > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > >

> > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would

> > be in seventh bhava

> > > we

> > > > will perscribe Coral and everything will be

> > nice..No its not like

> > > that.

> > > > Please read VRA section about Gem perscription.

> > Yes, Ucchista

> > > Ganapati

> > > > worship is neccesary.

> > > >

> > > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in

> > ninth) with Kamala

> > > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This will allow

> > to marry without

> > > delay.

> > > > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be

> > important to sustain

> > > marriage.

> > > >

> > > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from

> > inheritance.

> > > >

> > > > He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti,

> > interest in medicine

> > > and

> > > > good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and

> > will be strong

> > > warrior

> > > > and he can have buisness with printing books or

> > working with

> > > publishing.

> > > > He can also gain from occult and will be know as

> > sensitive and

> > > dynamic

> > > > person.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > email: rafal@

> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > >

> > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > >

> > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls

> > cud you explain

> > > what u

> > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th

> > from Lagnesh wrt the

> > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH

> > are very bad and

> > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence

> > my concern over

> > > Lagna

> > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.

> > > > >

> > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to

> > marriage, native shd not be

> > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another

> > mssg (sohamsa) - the

> > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings,

> > silly mistakes in

> > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after

> > wearing that stone

> > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have

> > done him better to

> > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h).

> > > > >

> > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or

> > wud u still suggest

> > > stone

> > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve

> > are also in exchange

> > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence

> > the question.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanx a tonne

> > > > > SS

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > <sohamsa%

> > > 40. com>,

> > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow

> > more dharma than

> > > > > occult. In

> > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.

> > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is

> > Sharada yoga per BPHS.

> > > This

> > > > > yoga

> > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have

> > > > > > loose morals.

> > > > > >

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

July 25, 2007

*hraum namah adityaya*

Dear Supriti,

We can use all dasas while timing activation of those kind of Yogas.

Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when the dasa of planet posited

in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This is opposite for bad bhava

(dusthana/3H).Sookshma Parivartana should be seen especially from

Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana refers to time of

particular activities in life.

Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is independent and this 'touch' the

native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL int that order).

Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and this should be

especially seen when looking at Dasas for predicting events.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

supriti108 napisa?(a):

>

> |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> Dear Rafal,

>

> How do we time the transformation due to parivartana. Visti ji

> mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there any other methods.

>

> Thank you.

>

> Regards

> Supriti

>

> sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40>,

> Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rafalji,

> > What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and the 12th

> > lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty. How to

> > offset this lagna by remedial measures. The problem

> > becomes compounded because the lagna lord is Venus

> > with Taurus ascendant.

> > Regards

> > Manoj

> > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > >

> > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > >

> > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather

> > > Purna-Yoga which

> > > cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if

> > > L,LL, AL are involved).

> > > One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native.

> > >

> > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or

> > > rather should go).

> > > Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture.

> > > These kind of people

> > > doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6

> > > to Lagna).

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > email: rafal

> > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > >

> > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > >

> > > > Thanx so much again for ur response and further

> > > elaboration, however

> > > > i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put a

> > > logic for Ma/coral

> > > > or any other logic - my question is that by

> > > exchnage if Ra is now in

> > > > 9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka

> > > sthana - and for Ra

> > > > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence

> > > was the question

> > > > that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give the

> > > stone or avoid it.

> > > >

> > > > I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was using

> > > this pg as the ref:

> > > > http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/

> > > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish-

> > > > i.html

> > > >

> > >

> > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in-jyotish-

> <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish->

> i.html>

> > > >

> > > > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by

> > > what pg279 point 3) in

> > > > VRA says.

> > > >

> > > > So probably Guru Mantra wud be better?

> > > >

> > > > and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa

> > > to arrive at the

> > > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this

> > > chart:

> > > > http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/

> > > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part-

> > > > 1.pdf

> > >

> > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part-

> 1.pdf

> <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part-1.pdf>>

> > > >

> > > > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra

> > > is also in ninth,

> > > > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of the

> > > latter factor?

> > > >

> > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given - but

> > > wud not apply here

> > > > since it is inimical to Me?

> > > > Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra

> > > recommended or do we go

> > > > only for the lord of 9h for mantra?

> > > >

> > > > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on:

> > > > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt

> > > this

> > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are

> > > very bad and

> > > > shows what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern

> > > over Lagna being 6th

> > > > from lagnesh.

> > > >

> > > > Thanx again

> > > > SS

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > <sohamsa% 40. com>,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > >

> > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would

> > > be in seventh bhava

> > > > we

> > > > > will perscribe Coral and everything will be

> > > nice..No its not like

> > > > that.

> > > > > Please read VRA section about Gem perscription.

> > > Yes, Ucchista

> > > > Ganapati

> > > > > worship is neccesary.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in

> > > ninth) with Kamala

> > > > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This will allow

> > > to marry without

> > > > delay.

> > > > > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be

> > > important to sustain

> > > > marriage.

> > > > >

> > > > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from

> > > inheritance.

> > > > >

> > > > > He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti,

> > > interest in medicine

> > > > and

> > > > > good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and

> > > will be strong

> > > > warrior

> > > > > and he can have buisness with printing books or

> > > working with

> > > > publishing.

> > > > > He can also gain from occult and will be know as

> > > sensitive and

> > > > dynamic

> > > > > person.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > >

> > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls

> > > cud you explain

> > > > what u

> > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th

> > > from Lagnesh wrt the

> > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH

> > > are very bad and

> > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence

> > > my concern over

> > > > Lagna

> > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to

> > > marriage, native shd not be

> > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another

> > > mssg (sohamsa) - the

> > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings,

> > > silly mistakes in

> > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after

> > > wearing that stone

> > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have

> > > done him better to

> > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or

> > > wud u still suggest

> > > > stone

> > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve

> > > are also in exchange

> > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence

> > > the question.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanx a tonne

> > > > > > SS

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > <sohamsa%

> > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow

> > > more dharma than

> > > > > > occult. In

> > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.

> > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is

> > > Sharada yoga per BPHS.

> > > > This

> > > > > > yoga

> > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have

> > > > > > > loose morals.

> > > > > > >

> > >

> > === message truncated ===

> >

>

July 25, 2007

Dear Rafal ji

Pranams.

I am an eager reader of astrology. I love to go through all such

knowledgeable posts whenever I can. I deeply appreciate your sincere

efforts at teaching astrology. I wish I could take up a guru like you

and take to the study of astrology - that is on my mind and maybe I

would do it some time in future.

You have said Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and

should be seen during the dasas for predicting events. I have

Parivartana of 8th and 12th House in Navamsa between Libra and

Aquarius. There is Rahu and Saturn in Libra and Venus in Aquarius.

What would that mean during Rahu dasa/Saturn dasa/Venus dasa? Venus in

12th is supposed to be bad for marriage. Would that effect be shown in

Rahu dasa? In addition, Rahu is AK. And there is Sun & Ketu in Aries in

2nd house. What can we make of such a postioning?

I look forward to your words which are my blessings.

Om Namo Narayanayah!

Thanking you

Regards

Smitha

vedic astrology , Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme wrote:

>

> *hraum namah adityaya*

>

> Dear Supriti,

>

> We can use all dasas while timing activation of those kind of Yogas.

> Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when the dasa of planet posited

> in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This is opposite for bad bhava

> (dusthana/3H).Sookshma Parivartana should be seen especially from

> Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana refers to time of

> particular activities in life.

>

> Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is independent and this 'touch' the

> native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL int that order).

>

> Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and this should be

> especially seen when looking at Dasas for predicting events.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

>

July 26, 2007

Dear Rafal,

What if there is exchange between navamasa LL and 8th lord ?what

does it indicate?

Thanks,

Regards

Shreeya

vedic astrology , Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme wrote:

>

> *hraum namah adityaya*

>

> Dear Supriti,

>

> We can use all dasas while timing activation of those kind of

Yogas.

> Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when the dasa of planet

posited

> in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This is opposite for bad

bhava

> (dusthana/3H).Sookshma Parivartana should be seen especially from

> Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana refers to time of

> particular activities in life.

>

> Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is independent and this 'touch'

the

> native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL int that order).

>

> Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and this should

be

> especially seen when looking at Dasas for predicting events.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

>

> supriti108 napisa?(a):

> >

> > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > Dear Rafal,

> >

> > How do we time the transformation due to parivartana. Visti ji

> > mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there any other methods.

> >

> > Thank you.

> >

> > Regards

> > Supriti

> >

> > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%

40>,

> > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rafalji,

> > > What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and the 12th

> > > lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty. How to

> > > offset this lagna by remedial measures. The problem

> > > becomes compounded because the lagna lord is Venus

> > > with Taurus ascendant.

> > > Regards

> > > Manoj

> > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > >

> > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > >

> > > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather

> > > > Purna-Yoga which

> > > > cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if

> > > > L,LL, AL are involved).

> > > > One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native.

> > > >

> > > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or

> > > > rather should go).

> > > > Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture.

> > > > These kind of people

> > > > doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6

> > > > to Lagna).

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > email: rafal@

> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > >

> > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanx so much again for ur response and further

> > > > elaboration, however

> > > > > i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put a

> > > > logic for Ma/coral

> > > > > or any other logic - my question is that by

> > > > exchnage if Ra is now in

> > > > > 9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka

> > > > sthana - and for Ra

> > > > > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence

> > > > was the question

> > > > > that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give the

> > > > stone or avoid it.

> > > > >

> > > > > I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was using

> > > > this pg as the ref:

> > > > > http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/

> > > > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish-

> > > > > i.html

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in-

jyotish-

> > <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish->

> > i.html>

> > > > >

> > > > > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by

> > > > what pg279 point 3) in

> > > > > VRA says.

> > > > >

> > > > > So probably Guru Mantra wud be better?

> > > > >

> > > > > and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa

> > > > to arrive at the

> > > > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this

> > > > chart:

> > > > > http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/

> > > > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part-

> > > > > 1.pdf

> > > >

> > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-2-

Part-

> > 1.pdf

> > <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part-

1.pdf>>

> > > > >

> > > > > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra

> > > > is also in ninth,

> > > > > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of the

> > > > latter factor?

> > > > >

> > > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given - but

> > > > wud not apply here

> > > > > since it is inimical to Me?

> > > > > Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra

> > > > recommended or do we go

> > > > > only for the lord of 9h for mantra?

> > > > >

> > > > > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on:

> > > > > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt

> > > > this

> > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are

> > > > very bad and

> > > > > shows what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern

> > > > over Lagna being 6th

> > > > > from lagnesh.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanx again

> > > > > SS

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > <sohamsa% 40. com>,

> > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would

> > > > be in seventh bhava

> > > > > we

> > > > > > will perscribe Coral and everything will be

> > > > nice..No its not like

> > > > > that.

> > > > > > Please read VRA section about Gem perscription.

> > > > Yes, Ucchista

> > > > > Ganapati

> > > > > > worship is neccesary.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in

> > > > ninth) with Kamala

> > > > > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This will allow

> > > > to marry without

> > > > > delay.

> > > > > > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be

> > > > important to sustain

> > > > > marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from

> > > > inheritance.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti,

> > > > interest in medicine

> > > > > and

> > > > > > good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and

> > > > will be strong

> > > > > warrior

> > > > > > and he can have buisness with printing books or

> > > > working with

> > > > > publishing.

> > > > > > He can also gain from occult and will be know as

> > > > sensitive and

> > > > > dynamic

> > > > > > person.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls

> > > > cud you explain

> > > > > what u

> > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th

> > > > from Lagnesh wrt the

> > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH

> > > > are very bad and

> > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence

> > > > my concern over

> > > > > Lagna

> > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to

> > > > marriage, native shd not be

> > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another

> > > > mssg (sohamsa) - the

> > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings,

> > > > silly mistakes in

> > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after

> > > > wearing that stone

> > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have

> > > > done him better to

> > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or

> > > > wud u still suggest

> > > > > stone

> > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve

> > > > are also in exchange

> > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence

> > > > the question.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanx a tonne

> > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > <sohamsa%

> > > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow

> > > > more dharma than

> > > > > > > occult. In

> > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.

> > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is

> > > > Sharada yoga per BPHS.

> > > > > This

> > > > > > > yoga

> > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have

> > > > > > > > loose morals.

> > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > === message truncated ===

> > >

> >

>

July 26, 2007

*hraum namah adityaya*

Dear Shreeya,

In Dasamsa it means that native like short-projects and like to get

money quickly (quickly retire). Similar to 10L in 5H.

In Navamsa it would show reasons for break of 1st relationship - this

will be the quality of native represented by that Graha. Generally

native can like or have karma connected to short-terms relationships.

I have chart where girl broke due to character traits of native, this

was especially connnected to His quality of being harsh and cold. It was

2nd relationship and 3L Sani was in Lagna.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

venusgaal2003 napisa?(a):

>

> Dear Rafal,

>

> What if there is exchange between navamasa LL and 8th lord ?what

> does it indicate?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Regards

> Shreeya

>

> vedic astrology

> <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz

> <starsuponme wrote:

> >

> > *hraum namah adityaya*

> >

> > Dear Supriti,

> >

> > We can use all dasas while timing activation of those kind of

> Yogas.

> > Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when the dasa of planet

> posited

> > in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This is opposite for bad

> bhava

> > (dusthana/3H).Sookshma Parivartana should be seen especially from

> > Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana refers to time of

> > particular activities in life.

> >

> > Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is independent and this 'touch'

> the

> > native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL int that order).

> >

> > Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and this should

> be

> > especially seen when looking at Dasas for predicting events.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rafal Gendarz

> > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > email: rafal

> > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

> >

> > supriti108 napisa?(a):

> > >

> > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > Dear Rafal,

> > >

> > > How do we time the transformation due to parivartana. Visti ji

> > > mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there any other methods.

> > >

> > > Thank you.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Supriti

> > >

> > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%

> 40>,

> > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rafalji,

> > > > What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and the 12th

> > > > lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty. How to

> > > > offset this lagna by remedial measures. The problem

> > > > becomes compounded because the lagna lord is Venus

> > > > with Taurus ascendant.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Manoj

> > > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather

> > > > > Purna-Yoga which

> > > > > cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if

> > > > > L,LL, AL are involved).

> > > > > One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or

> > > > > rather should go).

> > > > > Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture.

> > > > > These kind of people

> > > > > doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6

> > > > > to Lagna).

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > >

> > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanx so much again for ur response and further

> > > > > elaboration, however

> > > > > > i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put a

> > > > > logic for Ma/coral

> > > > > > or any other logic - my question is that by

> > > > > exchnage if Ra is now in

> > > > > > 9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka

> > > > > sthana - and for Ra

> > > > > > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence

> > > > > was the question

> > > > > > that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give the

> > > > > stone or avoid it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was using

> > > > > this pg as the ref:

> > > > > > http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/

> > > > > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish-

> > > > > > i.html

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in-

> jyotish-

> > > <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish-

> <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish->>

> > > i.html>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by

> > > > > what pg279 point 3) in

> > > > > > VRA says.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So probably Guru Mantra wud be better?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa

> > > > > to arrive at the

> > > > > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this

> > > > > chart:

> > > > > > http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/

> > > > > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part-

> > > > > > 1.pdf

> > > > >

> > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-2-

> Part-

> > > 1.pdf

> > > <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part-

> <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part->

> 1.pdf>>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra

> > > > > is also in ninth,

> > > > > > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of the

> > > > > latter factor?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given - but

> > > > > wud not apply here

> > > > > > since it is inimical to Me?

> > > > > > Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra

> > > > > recommended or do we go

> > > > > > only for the lord of 9h for mantra?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on:

> > > > > > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt

> > > > > this

> > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are

> > > > > very bad and

> > > > > > shows what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern

> > > > > over Lagna being 6th

> > > > > > from lagnesh.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanx again

> > > > > > SS

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com>,

> > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would

> > > > > be in seventh bhava

> > > > > > we

> > > > > > > will perscribe Coral and everything will be

> > > > > nice..No its not like

> > > > > > that.

> > > > > > > Please read VRA section about Gem perscription.

> > > > > Yes, Ucchista

> > > > > > Ganapati

> > > > > > > worship is neccesary.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in

> > > > > ninth) with Kamala

> > > > > > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This will allow

> > > > > to marry without

> > > > > > delay.

> > > > > > > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be

> > > > > important to sustain

> > > > > > marriage.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from

> > > > > inheritance.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti,

> > > > > interest in medicine

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and

> > > > > will be strong

> > > > > > warrior

> > > > > > > and he can have buisness with printing books or

> > > > > working with

> > > > > > publishing.

> > > > > > > He can also gain from occult and will be know as

> > > > > sensitive and

> > > > > > dynamic

> > > > > > > person.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls

> > > > > cud you explain

> > > > > > what u

> > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th

> > > > > from Lagnesh wrt the

> > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH

> > > > > are very bad and

> > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence

> > > > > my concern over

> > > > > > Lagna

> > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to

> > > > > marriage, native shd not be

> > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another

> > > > > mssg (sohamsa) - the

> > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings,

> > > > > silly mistakes in

> > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after

> > > > > wearing that stone

> > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have

> > > > > done him better to

> > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or

> > > > > wud u still suggest

> > > > > > stone

> > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve

> > > > > are also in exchange

> > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence

> > > > > the question.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne

> > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > > <sohamsa%

> > > > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow

> > > > > more dharma than

> > > > > > > > occult. In

> > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.

> > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is

> > > > > Sharada yoga per BPHS.

> > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > yoga

> > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have

> > > > > > > > > loose morals.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > === message truncated ===

> > > >

> > >

> >

July 26, 2007

Dear Rafal,

Thanks for your reply.what if the grahas are jupiter and venus ?

Jupiter being in navamsa lagna and venus in the 8th.Venus

additionally being the LL in rasi as well and atamkarka too.

Thanks,

Regards

Shreeya

vedic astrology , Rafal Gendarz

<starsuponme wrote:

>

> *hraum namah adityaya*

>

> Dear Shreeya,

>

> In Dasamsa it means that native like short-projects and like to

get

> money quickly (quickly retire). Similar to 10L in 5H.

>

> In Navamsa it would show reasons for break of 1st relationship -

this

> will be the quality of native represented by that Graha. Generally

> native can like or have karma connected to short-terms

relationships.

>

> I have chart where girl broke due to character traits of native,

this

> was especially connnected to His quality of being harsh and cold.

It was

> 2nd relationship and 3L Sani was in Lagna.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

>

> venusgaal2003 napisa?(a):

> >

> > Dear Rafal,

> >

> > What if there is exchange between navamasa LL and 8th lord ?what

> > does it indicate?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Regards

> > Shreeya

> >

> > vedic astrology

> > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz

> > <starsuponme@> wrote:

> > >

> > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > >

> > > Dear Supriti,

> > >

> > > We can use all dasas while timing activation of those kind of

> > Yogas.

> > > Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when the dasa of planet

> > posited

> > > in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This is opposite for

bad

> > bhava

> > > (dusthana/3H).Sookshma Parivartana should be seen especially

from

> > > Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana refers to time

of

> > > particular activities in life.

> > >

> > > Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is independent and

this 'touch'

> > the

> > > native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL int that order).

> > >

> > > Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and this

should

> > be

> > > especially seen when looking at Dasas for predicting events.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > email: rafal@

> > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

> > >

> > > supriti108 napisa?(a):

> > > >

> > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > >

> > > > How do we time the transformation due to parivartana. Visti

ji

> > > > mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there any other methods.

> > > >

> > > > Thank you.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Supriti

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%

> > 40>,

> > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rafalji,

> > > > > What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and the 12th

> > > > > lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty. How to

> > > > > offset this lagna by remedial measures. The problem

> > > > > becomes compounded because the lagna lord is Venus

> > > > > with Taurus ascendant.

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Manoj

> > > > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather

> > > > > > Purna-Yoga which

> > > > > > cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if

> > > > > > L,LL, AL are involved).

> > > > > > One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or

> > > > > > rather should go).

> > > > > > Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture.

> > > > > > These kind of people

> > > > > > doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6

> > > > > > to Lagna).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanx so much again for ur response and further

> > > > > > elaboration, however

> > > > > > > i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put a

> > > > > > logic for Ma/coral

> > > > > > > or any other logic - my question is that by

> > > > > > exchnage if Ra is now in

> > > > > > > 9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka

> > > > > > sthana - and for Ra

> > > > > > > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence

> > > > > > was the question

> > > > > > > that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give the

> > > > > > stone or avoid it.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was using

> > > > > > this pg as the ref:

> > > > > > > http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/

> > > > > > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish-

> > > > > > > i.html

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in-

> > jyotish-

> > > > <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-

jyotish-

> > <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish->>

> > > > i.html>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by

> > > > > > what pg279 point 3) in

> > > > > > > VRA says.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So probably Guru Mantra wud be better?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa

> > > > > > to arrive at the

> > > > > > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this

> > > > > > chart:

> > > > > > > http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/

> > > > > > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part-

> > > > > > > 1.pdf

> > > > > >

> > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-

2-

> > Part-

> > > > 1.pdf

> > > > <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-

Part-

> > <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part->

> > 1.pdf>>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra

> > > > > > is also in ninth,

> > > > > > > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of the

> > > > > > latter factor?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given - but

> > > > > > wud not apply here

> > > > > > > since it is inimical to Me?

> > > > > > > Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra

> > > > > > recommended or do we go

> > > > > > > only for the lord of 9h for mantra?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on:

> > > > > > > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt

> > > > > > this

> > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are

> > > > > > very bad and

> > > > > > > shows what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern

> > > > > > over Lagna being 6th

> > > > > > > from lagnesh.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanx again

> > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com>,

> > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would

> > > > > > be in seventh bhava

> > > > > > > we

> > > > > > > > will perscribe Coral and everything will be

> > > > > > nice..No its not like

> > > > > > > that.

> > > > > > > > Please read VRA section about Gem perscription.

> > > > > > Yes, Ucchista

> > > > > > > Ganapati

> > > > > > > > worship is neccesary.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in

> > > > > > ninth) with Kamala

> > > > > > > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This will allow

> > > > > > to marry without

> > > > > > > delay.

> > > > > > > > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be

> > > > > > important to sustain

> > > > > > > marriage.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from

> > > > > > inheritance.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti,

> > > > > > interest in medicine

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and

> > > > > > will be strong

> > > > > > > warrior

> > > > > > > > and he can have buisness with printing books or

> > > > > > working with

> > > > > > > publishing.

> > > > > > > > He can also gain from occult and will be know as

> > > > > > sensitive and

> > > > > > > dynamic

> > > > > > > > person.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls

> > > > > > cud you explain

> > > > > > > what u

> > > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th

> > > > > > from Lagnesh wrt the

> > > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH

> > > > > > are very bad and

> > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence

> > > > > > my concern over

> > > > > > > Lagna

> > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to

> > > > > > marriage, native shd not be

> > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another

> > > > > > mssg (sohamsa) - the

> > > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings,

> > > > > > silly mistakes in

> > > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after

> > > > > > wearing that stone

> > > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have

> > > > > > done him better to

> > > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or

> > > > > > wud u still suggest

> > > > > > > stone

> > > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve

> > > > > > are also in exchange

> > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence

> > > > > > the question.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne

> > > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > > > <sohamsa%

> > > > > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow

> > > > > > more dharma than

> > > > > > > > > occult. In

> > > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.

> > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is

> > > > > > Sharada yoga per BPHS.

> > > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > > yoga

> > > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have

> > > > > > > > > > loose morals.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > === message truncated ===

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

July 26, 2007

*hraum namah adityaya*

Dear Shreeya,

Venus connected to eight can show betrayal. But that should be seen also

in Rasi [upapada]. I have few examples with those kind of cases.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

venusgaal2003 napisa?(a):

>

> Dear Rafal,

>

> Thanks for your reply.what if the grahas are jupiter and venus ?

> Jupiter being in navamsa lagna and venus in the 8th.Venus

> additionally being the LL in rasi as well and atamkarka too.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Regards

> Shreeya

>

> vedic astrology

> <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz

> <starsuponme wrote:

> >

> > *hraum namah adityaya*

> >

> > Dear Shreeya,

> >

> > In Dasamsa it means that native like short-projects and like to

> get

> > money quickly (quickly retire). Similar to 10L in 5H.

> >

> > In Navamsa it would show reasons for break of 1st relationship -

> this

> > will be the quality of native represented by that Graha. Generally

> > native can like or have karma connected to short-terms

> relationships.

> >

> > I have chart where girl broke due to character traits of native,

> this

> > was especially connnected to His quality of being harsh and cold.

> It was

> > 2nd relationship and 3L Sani was in Lagna.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rafal Gendarz

> > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > email: rafal

> > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

> >

> > venusgaal2003 napisa?(a):

> > >

> > > Dear Rafal,

> > >

> > > What if there is exchange between navamasa LL and 8th lord ?what

> > > does it indicate?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Shreeya

> > >

> > > vedic astrology

> <vedic astrology%40>

> > > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz

> > > <starsuponme@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > >

> > > > Dear Supriti,

> > > >

> > > > We can use all dasas while timing activation of those kind of

> > > Yogas.

> > > > Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when the dasa of planet

> > > posited

> > > > in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This is opposite for

> bad

> > > bhava

> > > > (dusthana/3H).Sookshma Parivartana should be seen especially

> from

> > > > Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana refers to time

> of

> > > > particular activities in life.

> > > >

> > > > Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is independent and

> this 'touch'

> > > the

> > > > native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL int that order).

> > > >

> > > > Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and this

> should

> > > be

> > > > especially seen when looking at Dasas for predicting events.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > email: rafal@

> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

> > > >

> > > > supriti108 napisa?(a):

> > > > >

> > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > >

> > > > > How do we time the transformation due to parivartana. Visti

> ji

> > > > > mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there any other methods.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Supriti

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%

> > > 40>,

> > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rafalji,

> > > > > > What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and the 12th

> > > > > > lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty. How to

> > > > > > offset this lagna by remedial measures. The problem

> > > > > > becomes compounded because the lagna lord is Venus

> > > > > > with Taurus ascendant.

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Manoj

> > > > > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather

> > > > > > > Purna-Yoga which

> > > > > > > cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if

> > > > > > > L,LL, AL are involved).

> > > > > > > One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or

> > > > > > > rather should go).

> > > > > > > Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture.

> > > > > > > These kind of people

> > > > > > > doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6

> > > > > > > to Lagna).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanx so much again for ur response and further

> > > > > > > elaboration, however

> > > > > > > > i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put a

> > > > > > > logic for Ma/coral

> > > > > > > > or any other logic - my question is that by

> > > > > > > exchnage if Ra is now in

> > > > > > > > 9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka

> > > > > > > sthana - and for Ra

> > > > > > > > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence

> > > > > > > was the question

> > > > > > > > that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give the

> > > > > > > stone or avoid it.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was using

> > > > > > > this pg as the ref:

> > > > > > > > http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/

> > > > > > > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish-

> > > > > > > > i.html

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in-

> > > jyotish-

> > > > > <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-

> <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in->

> jyotish-

> > > <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish-

> <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish->>>

> > > > > i.html>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by

> > > > > > > what pg279 point 3) in

> > > > > > > > VRA says.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So probably Guru Mantra wud be better?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa

> > > > > > > to arrive at the

> > > > > > > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this

> > > > > > > chart:

> > > > > > > > http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/

> > > > > > > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part-

> > > > > > > > 1.pdf

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-

> 2-

> > > Part-

> > > > > 1.pdf

> > > > > <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-

> <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2->

> Part-

> > > <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part-

> <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part->>

> > > 1.pdf>>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra

> > > > > > > is also in ninth,

> > > > > > > > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of the

> > > > > > > latter factor?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given - but

> > > > > > > wud not apply here

> > > > > > > > since it is inimical to Me?

> > > > > > > > Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra

> > > > > > > recommended or do we go

> > > > > > > > only for the lord of 9h for mantra?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on:

> > > > > > > > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt

> > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are

> > > > > > > very bad and

> > > > > > > > shows what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern

> > > > > > > over Lagna being 6th

> > > > > > > > from lagnesh.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanx again

> > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com>,

> > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would

> > > > > > > be in seventh bhava

> > > > > > > > we

> > > > > > > > > will perscribe Coral and everything will be

> > > > > > > nice..No its not like

> > > > > > > > that.

> > > > > > > > > Please read VRA section about Gem perscription.

> > > > > > > Yes, Ucchista

> > > > > > > > Ganapati

> > > > > > > > > worship is neccesary.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in

> > > > > > > ninth) with Kamala

> > > > > > > > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This will allow

> > > > > > > to marry without

> > > > > > > > delay.

> > > > > > > > > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be

> > > > > > > important to sustain

> > > > > > > > marriage.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from

> > > > > > > inheritance.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti,

> > > > > > > interest in medicine

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and

> > > > > > > will be strong

> > > > > > > > warrior

> > > > > > > > > and he can have buisness with printing books or

> > > > > > > working with

> > > > > > > > publishing.

> > > > > > > > > He can also gain from occult and will be know as

> > > > > > > sensitive and

> > > > > > > > dynamic

> > > > > > > > > person.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls

> > > > > > > cud you explain

> > > > > > > > what u

> > > > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th

> > > > > > > from Lagnesh wrt the

> > > > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH

> > > > > > > are very bad and

> > > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence

> > > > > > > my concern over

> > > > > > > > Lagna

> > > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to

> > > > > > > marriage, native shd not be

> > > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another

> > > > > > > mssg (sohamsa) - the

> > > > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings,

> > > > > > > silly mistakes in

> > > > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after

> > > > > > > wearing that stone

> > > > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have

> > > > > > > done him better to

> > > > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h).

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or

> > > > > > > wud u still suggest

> > > > > > > > stone

> > > > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve

> > > > > > > are also in exchange

> > > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence

> > > > > > > the question.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne

> > > > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > > > > <sohamsa%

> > > > > > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow

> > > > > > > more dharma than

> > > > > > > > > > occult. In

> > > > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.

> > > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is

> > > > > > > Sharada yoga per BPHS.

> > > > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > > > yoga

> > > > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have

> > > > > > > > > > > loose morals.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > === message truncated ===

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

July 26, 2007

|OM GURAVE NAMAH|

Dear Rafal,

Thank you for your response. I am still not clear on one concept. I

would really appreciate it if you could clarify it for me.

I am adding my details for this question. I have a few parivartanas

in my chart. I am particularly refering to the exchange of 6th and

7th lord. 7th house is my HL.

Visti ji has said and I quote: " Here the parivartana

being between a good and an evil house must cause a good situation

(marriage) to turn sour (enmity). Later this will reverse again where

a bitter situation (enmity) becomes the cause of a great friendship.

Your inference about your Näräyaëa daçä is very correct. "

My question, although I am coming up on Pi Narayana Dasa (aspecting

7th house), I am also going through Ma vimsottari dasa (placed in 6th

house). How do I know which one will show its effects.

My birth details:

September 18, 1970

Time: 17:48:30

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 88 E 22' 00 " , 22 N 34' 00 "

Kolkata, India

Thanks

Supriti

sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

>

> *hraum namah adityaya*

>

> Dear Supriti,

>

> We can use all dasas while timing activation of those kind of

Yogas.

> Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when the dasa of planet

posited

> in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This is opposite for bad

bhava

> (dusthana/3H).Sookshma Parivartana should be seen especially from

> Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana refers to time of

> particular activities in life.

>

> Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is independent and this 'touch'

the

> native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL int that order).

>

> Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and this should be

> especially seen when looking at Dasas for predicting events.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

>

> supriti108 napisa?(a):

> >

> > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > Dear Rafal,

> >

> > How do we time the transformation due to parivartana. Visti ji

> > mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there any other methods.

> >

> > Thank you.

> >

> > Regards

> > Supriti

> >

> > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%

40>,

> > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rafalji,

> > > What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and the 12th

> > > lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty. How to

> > > offset this lagna by remedial measures. The problem

> > > becomes compounded because the lagna lord is Venus

> > > with Taurus ascendant.

> > > Regards

> > > Manoj

> > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > >

> > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > >

> > > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather

> > > > Purna-Yoga which

> > > > cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if

> > > > L,LL, AL are involved).

> > > > One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native.

> > > >

> > > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or

> > > > rather should go).

> > > > Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture.

> > > > These kind of people

> > > > doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6

> > > > to Lagna).

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > email: rafal@

> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > >

> > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanx so much again for ur response and further

> > > > elaboration, however

> > > > > i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put a

> > > > logic for Ma/coral

> > > > > or any other logic - my question is that by

> > > > exchnage if Ra is now in

> > > > > 9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka

> > > > sthana - and for Ra

> > > > > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence

> > > > was the question

> > > > > that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give the

> > > > stone or avoid it.

> > > > >

> > > > > I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was using

> > > > this pg as the ref:

> > > > > http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/

> > > > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish-

> > > > > i.html

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in-

jyotish-

> > <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish->

> > i.html>

> > > > >

> > > > > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by

> > > > what pg279 point 3) in

> > > > > VRA says.

> > > > >

> > > > > So probably Guru Mantra wud be better?

> > > > >

> > > > > and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa

> > > > to arrive at the

> > > > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this

> > > > chart:

> > > > > http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/

> > > > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part-

> > > > > 1.pdf

> > > >

> > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-2-

Part-

> > 1.pdf

> > <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part-

1.pdf>>

> > > > >

> > > > > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra

> > > > is also in ninth,

> > > > > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of the

> > > > latter factor?

> > > > >

> > > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given - but

> > > > wud not apply here

> > > > > since it is inimical to Me?

> > > > > Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra

> > > > recommended or do we go

> > > > > only for the lord of 9h for mantra?

> > > > >

> > > > > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on:

> > > > > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt

> > > > this

> > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are

> > > > very bad and

> > > > > shows what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern

> > > > over Lagna being 6th

> > > > > from lagnesh.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanx again

> > > > > SS

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > <sohamsa% 40. com>,

> > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would

> > > > be in seventh bhava

> > > > > we

> > > > > > will perscribe Coral and everything will be

> > > > nice..No its not like

> > > > > that.

> > > > > > Please read VRA section about Gem perscription.

> > > > Yes, Ucchista

> > > > > Ganapati

> > > > > > worship is neccesary.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in

> > > > ninth) with Kamala

> > > > > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This will allow

> > > > to marry without

> > > > > delay.

> > > > > > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be

> > > > important to sustain

> > > > > marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from

> > > > inheritance.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti,

> > > > interest in medicine

> > > > > and

> > > > > > good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and

> > > > will be strong

> > > > > warrior

> > > > > > and he can have buisness with printing books or

> > > > working with

> > > > > publishing.

> > > > > > He can also gain from occult and will be know as

> > > > sensitive and

> > > > > dynamic

> > > > > > person.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls

> > > > cud you explain

> > > > > what u

> > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th

> > > > from Lagnesh wrt the

> > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH

> > > > are very bad and

> > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence

> > > > my concern over

> > > > > Lagna

> > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to

> > > > marriage, native shd not be

> > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another

> > > > mssg (sohamsa) - the

> > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings,

> > > > silly mistakes in

> > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after

> > > > wearing that stone

> > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have

> > > > done him better to

> > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or

> > > > wud u still suggest

> > > > > stone

> > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve

> > > > are also in exchange

> > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence

> > > > the question.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanx a tonne

> > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > <sohamsa%

> > > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow

> > > > more dharma than

> > > > > > > occult. In

> > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.

> > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is

> > > > Sharada yoga per BPHS.

> > > > > This

> > > > > > > yoga

> > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have

> > > > > > > > loose morals.

> > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > === message truncated ===

> > >

> >

>

July 26, 2007

hraum namah adityaya

Dear Supriti,

So dasa of planet in sixth bhava is bad, it means seperation and

conflicts. Narayana Dasa shows what the world want to give You and

drsti on seventh bhava shows that relationship, buisness and travel

will be highlighted during that time. See which of Jupiter or Mo/Ve are

in Kendra/Kona to determine which Dasa will work better.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

Jyotish pages:

www.rohinaa.com

supriti108 napisał(a):

|OM GURAVE NAMAH|

Dear Rafal,

Thank you for your response. I am still not clear on one concept. I

would really appreciate it if you could clarify it for me.

I am adding my details for this question. I have a few parivartanas

in my chart. I am particularly refering to the exchange of 6th and

7th lord. 7th house is my HL.

Visti ji has said and I quote: "Here the parivartana

being between a good and an evil house must cause a good situation

(marriage) to turn sour (enmity). Later this will reverse again where

a bitter situation (enmity) becomes the cause of a great friendship.

Your inference about your Näräyaëa daçä is very correct."

My question, although I am coming up on Pi Narayana Dasa (aspecting

7th house), I am also going through Ma vimsottari dasa (placed in 6th

house). How do I know which one will show its effects.

My birth details:

September 18, 1970

Time: 17:48:30

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 88 E 22' 00", 22 N 34' 00"

Kolkata, India

Thanks

Supriti

sohamsa@

..com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

>

> *hraum namah adityaya*

>

> Dear Supriti,

>

> We can use all dasas while timing activation of those kind of

Yogas.

> Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when the dasa of planet

posited

> in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This is opposite for bad

bhava

> (dusthana/3H) .Sookshma Parivartana should be seen especially from

> Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana refers to time of

> particular activities in life.

>

> Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is independent and this 'touch'

the

> native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL int that order).

>

> Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and this should

be

> especially seen when looking at Dasas for predicting events.

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> email: rafal

> Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

>

> supriti108 napisa?(a):

> >

> > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > Dear Rafal,

> >

> > How do we time the transformation due to parivartana. Visti ji

> > mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there any other methods.

> >

> > Thank you.

> >

> > Regards

> > Supriti

> >

> > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%

40. com>,

> > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rafalji,

> > > What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and the 12th

> > > lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty. How to

> > > offset this lagna by remedial measures. The problem

> > > becomes compounded because the lagna lord is Venus

> > > with Taurus ascendant.

> > > Regards

> > > Manoj

> > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > >

> > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > >

> > > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather

> > > > Purna-Yoga which

> > > > cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if

> > > > L,LL, AL are involved).

> > > > One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native.

> > > >

> > > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or

> > > > rather should go).

> > > > Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture.

> > > > These kind of people

> > > > doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6

> > > > to Lagna).

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > email: rafal@

> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > >

> > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanx so much again for ur response and further

> > > > elaboration, however

> > > > > i wud like to clarify that i never meant to

put a

> > > > logic for Ma/coral

> > > > > or any other logic - my question is that by

> > > > exchnage if Ra is now in

> > > > > 9h, it will be considered to be in

marana-karaka

> > > > sthana - and for Ra

> > > > > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given -

hence

> > > > was the question

> > > > > that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give

the

> > > > stone or avoid it.

> > > > >

> > > > > I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was

using

> > > > this pg as the ref:

> > > > > http://varahamihira

..blogspot. com/2004/

> > > > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish-

> > > > > i.html

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > <http://varahamihira

..blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in-

jyotish-

> > <http://varahamihira

..blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in-jyotish->

> > i.html>

> > > > >

> > > > > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by

> > > > what pg279 point 3) in

> > > > > VRA says.

> > > > >

> > > > > So probably Guru Mantra wud be better?

> > > > >

> > > > > and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing

Sa

> > > > to arrive at the

> > > > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this

> > > > chart:

> > > > > http://

..org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/

> > > > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part-

> > > > > 1.pdf

> > > >

> > > <http://

..org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-2-

Part-

> > 1.pdf

> > <http://

..org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part-

1.pdf>>

> > > > >

> > > > > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange

if Ra

> > > > is also in ninth,

> > > > > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of

the

> > > > latter factor?

> > > > >

> > > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given -

but

> > > > wud not apply here

> > > > > since it is inimical to Me?

> > > > > Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra

> > > > recommended or do we go

> > > > > only for the lord of 9h for mantra?

> > > > >

> > > > > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on:

> > > > > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt

> > > > this

> > > > > chart. "while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH

are

> > > > very bad and

> > > > > shows what one sees as RIPU" - hence my concern

> > > > over Lagna being 6th

> > > > > from lagnesh.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanx again

> > > > > SS

> > > > >

> > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > <sohamsa% 40. com>,

> > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars

would

> > > > be in seventh bhava

> > > > > we

> > > > > > will perscribe Coral and everything will

be

> > > > nice..No its not like

> > > > > that.

> > > > > > Please read VRA section about Gem

perscription.

> > > > Yes, Ucchista

> > > > > Ganapati

> > > > > > worship is neccesary.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship

(Sani in

> > > > ninth) with Kamala

> > > > > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This

will allow

> > > > to marry without

> > > > > delay.

> > > > > > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be

> > > > important to sustain

> > > > > marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from

> > > > inheritance.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He will be quite spiritual person with

bhakti,

> > > > interest in medicine

> > > > > and

> > > > > > good knowledge, but can go easily into

fight and

> > > > will be strong

> > > > > warrior

> > > > > > and he can have buisness with printing

books or

> > > > working with

> > > > > publishing.

> > > > > > He can also gain from occult and will be

know as

> > > > sensitive and

> > > > > dynamic

> > > > > > person.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination,

however pls

> > > > cud you explain

> > > > > what u

> > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th

and 11th

> > > > from Lagnesh wrt the

> > > > > > > chart. "while sixth and eleventh

FROM LAGNESH

> > > > are very bad and

> > > > > > > > > shows > > > what

one sees as RIPU" - hence

> > > > my concern over

> > > > > Lagna

> > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have

explained.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to

> > > > marriage, native shd not be

> > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in

another

> > > > mssg (sohamsa) - the

> > > > > > > native was facing problem like

day-dreamings,

> > > > silly mistakes in

> > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were

reduced after

> > > > wearing that stone

> > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha

worship wud have

> > > > done him better to

> > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for

him, or

> > > > wud u still suggest

> > > > > stone

> > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?)

- Ju-Ve

> > > > are also in exchange

> > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna

- hence

> > > > the question.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanx a tonne

> > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > <sohamsa%

> > > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@

....> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be

also to follow

> > > > more dharma than

> > > > > > > occult. In

> > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is

in ninth.

> > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to

Me/Ju) is

> > > > Sharada yoga per BPHS.

> > > > > This

> > > > > > > yoga

> > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse

can have

> > > > > > > > loose morals.

> > > > > > > >

> > > >

> > > === message truncated ===

> > >

> >

>

July 26, 2007

|OM GURAVE NAMAH|Dear Rafal,

My comments below. Thank you for helping me understand this.RegardsSupritisohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:>> *hraum namah adityaya*> > Dear Supriti,> > So dasa of planet in sixth bhava is bad, it means seperation and > conflicts.

[sM] How does this work with the parivartana. Ma is 2nd and 9th lord in conjunction with 7th lord Me which is in exchange with 6th lord Sun.

Narayana Dasa shows what the world want to give You and drsti > on seventh bhava shows that relationship, buisness and travel will be > highlighted during that time.

[sM] OK, so Visti ji's words regarding transformation of rajasic to satwic wrt marriage/alliance work with this.

See which of Jupiter or Mo/Ve are in > Kendra/Kona to determine which Dasa will work better.

[sM] None of the planets are in Kendra/Kona, so I am confused. Mo is in the 2nd house and Ju, Ve are in the 8th house. Ve and Mo are in Kendra in D9 though.> > > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> Sri Jagannath Center Guru> email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com> > > > supriti108 napisa?(a):> >> > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|> > Dear Rafal,> >> > Thank you for your response. I am still not clear on one concept. I> > would really appreciate it if you could clarify it for me.> >> > I am adding my details for this question. I have a few parivartanas> > in my chart. I am particularly refering to the exchange of 6th and> > 7th lord. 7th house is my HL.> >> > Visti ji has said and I quote: "Here the parivartana> > being between a good and an evil house must cause a good situation> > (marriage) to turn sour (enmity). Later this will reverse again where> > a bitter situation (enmity) becomes the cause of a great friendship.> > Your inference about your Näräyaëa daçä is very correct."> >> > My question, although I am coming up on Pi Narayana Dasa (aspecting> > 7th house), I am also going through Ma vimsottari dasa (placed in 6th> > house). How do I know which one will show its effects.> >> > My birth details:> > September 18, 1970> > Time: 17:48:30> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 88 E 22' 00", 22 N 34' 00"> > Kolkata, India> >> > Thanks> > Supriti> >> > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40>, > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > >> > > Dear Supriti,> > >> > > We can use all dasas while timing activation of those kind of> > Yogas.> > > Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when the dasa of planet> > posited> > > in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This is opposite for bad> > bhava> > > (dusthana/3H) .Sookshma Parivartana should be seen especially from> > > Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana refers to time of> > > particular activities in life.> > >> > > Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is independent and this 'touch'> > the> > > native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL int that order).> > >> > > Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and this should be> > > especially seen when looking at Dasas for predicting events.> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz> > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > email: rafal@> > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > >> > >> > > supriti108 napisa?(a):> > > >> > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|> > > > Dear Rafal,> > > >> > > > How do we time the transformation due to parivartana. Visti ji> > > > mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there any other methods.> > > >> > > > Thank you.> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Supriti> > > >> > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%> > 40. com>,> > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Rafalji,> > > > > What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and the 12th> > > > > lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty. How to> > > > > offset this lagna by remedial measures. The problem> > > > > becomes compounded because the lagna lord is Venus> > > > > with Taurus ascendant.> > > > > Regards> > > > > Manoj> > > > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,> > > > > >> > > > > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather> > > > > > Purna-Yoga which> > > > > > cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if> > > > > > L,LL, AL are involved).> > > > > > One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native.> > > > > >> > > > > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or> > > > > > rather should go).> > > > > > Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture.> > > > > > These kind of people> > > > > > doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6> > > > > > to Lagna).> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Rafal Gendarz> > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > > >> > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanx so much again for ur response and further> > > > > > elaboration, however> > > > > > > i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put a> > > > > > logic for Ma/coral> > > > > > > or any other logic - my question is that by> > > > > > exchnage if Ra is now in> > > > > > > 9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka> > > > > > sthana - and for Ra> > > > > > > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence> > > > > > was the question> > > > > > > that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give the> > > > > > stone or avoid it.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was using> > > > > > this pg as the ref:> > > > > > > http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/> > > > > > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish-> > > > > > > i.html> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in-> > jyotish-> > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- > > in-jyotish- > > <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish->>> > > > i.html>> > > > > > >> > > > > > > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by> > > > > > what pg279 point 3) in> > > > > > > VRA says.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > So probably Guru Mantra wud be better?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa> > > > > > to arrive at the> > > > > > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this> > > > > > chart:> > > > > > > http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/> > > > > > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part-> > > > > > > 1.pdf> > > > > >> > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-2-> > Part-> > > > 1.pdf> > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part- > > <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part->> > 1.pdf>>> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra> > > > > > is also in ninth,> > > > > > > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of the> > > > > > latter factor?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given - but> > > > > > wud not apply here> > > > > > > since it is inimical to Me?> > > > > > > Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra> > > > > > recommended or do we go> > > > > > > only for the lord of 9h for mantra?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on:> > > > > > > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt> > > > > > this> > > > > > > chart. "while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are> > > > > > very bad and> > > > > > > shows what one sees as RIPU" - hence my concern> > > > > > over Lagna being 6th> > > > > > > from lagnesh.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanx again> > > > > > > SS> > > > > > >> > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com> > > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com>,> > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would> > > > > > be in seventh bhava> > > > > > > we> > > > > > > > will perscribe Coral and everything will be> > > > > > nice..No its not like> > > > > > > that.> > > > > > > > Please read VRA section about Gem perscription.> > > > > > Yes, Ucchista> > > > > > > Ganapati> > > > > > > > worship is neccesary.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in> > > > > > ninth) with Kamala> > > > > > > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This will allow> > > > > > to marry without> > > > > > > delay.> > > > > > > > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be> > > > > > important to sustain> > > > > > > marriage.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from> > > > > > inheritance.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti,> > > > > > interest in medicine> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and> > > > > > will be strong> > > > > > > warrior> > > > > > > > and he can have buisness with printing books or> > > > > > working with> > > > > > > publishing.> > > > > > > > He can also gain from occult and will be know as> > > > > > sensitive and> > > > > > > dynamic> > > > > > > > person.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz> > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > > > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls> > > > > > cud you explain> > > > > > > what u> > > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th> > > > > > from Lagnesh wrt the> > > > > > > > > chart. "while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH> > > > > > are very bad and> > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU" - hence> > > > > > my concern over> > > > > > > Lagna> > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to> > > > > > marriage, native shd not be> > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another> > > > > > mssg (sohamsa) - the> > > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings,> > > > > > silly mistakes in> > > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after> > > > > > wearing that stone> > > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have> > > > > > done him better to> > > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h).> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or> > > > > > wud u still suggest> > > > > > > stone> > > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve> > > > > > are also in exchange> > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence> > > > > > the question.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne> > > > > > > > > SS> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com> > > > > > <sohamsa%> > > > > > > 40. com>,> > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow> > > > > > more dharma than> > > > > > > > > occult. In> > > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.> > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is> > > > > > Sharada yoga per BPHS.> > > > > > > This> > > > > > > > > yoga> > > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have> > > > > > > > > > loose morals.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > === message truncated ===> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >>

July 26, 2007

Namaste Sri Soul

I hope I am not interrupting anything here. Rahu's dasha will bring Sarala Yoga and vipreet raja yoga into action. However 9th house may suffer but health should not except for minor ailments.

Ketu being in Sun's nakshatra may harm the 9th house significations even more. I won't advise this person to wear a cat's eye. If anything needs to be done, then, it is worship of Surya Devta. Also, wear a Surya numerical yantra.

In Gemstones, an Emerald is likely to suit this person. The native can wear it in gold as a ring or better still as a pendant on the heart chakra.

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

On 7/25/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote:

Dear Rafal, thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls cud you explain what u said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt the chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and

> > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern over Lagna 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.Also, if Ke is causing such touble to marriage, native shd not be wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another mssg (sohamsa) - the native was facing problem like day-dreamings, silly mistakes in studies etc. which he says were reduced after wearing that stone (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have done him better to treat this Ke (in 12h).

Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or wud u still suggest stone for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve are also in exchange here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence the question.Thanx a tonne

SSsohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

>> *hraum namah adityaya*> > Dear Soul Sadhak,> > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow more dharma than occult. In > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.

> Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is Sharada yoga per BPHS. This yoga > is in Upapada also so spouse can have> loose morals.> > 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in marriage until childbirth.

> > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus? Comeon...> > 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement, and its in parivartana with > Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big enmity rises which will afflict > comforts and afflict native's rise & marriage life.> > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good ability in Jyotish Vedanga.> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru> email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com> > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > >> > Dear Rafal,> >> > in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in 8h, Mo in 8h (marana> > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify delving into occult.

> > Ke in 12h again native may want to look for moksha / meditative> > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now)> >> > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but Ke is in Ta (weak),

> > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but there's exchange b/w Ju> > and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats eye, will it be good or> > bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but wont it harm the lagna> > or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th from lagnesh (and> > Mo/chandra-rasi) ?> >> > Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the native may veiw> > self/body/own intelligence/ perception as a punishment?

> > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify?> >> > birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar, india.> > (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the discussion seems

to be> > in the direction that i am looking for - so u may skip ur reply> > there)> >> > Thanx a tonne,> > SS> >> > vedic astrology > > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > >> > > Dear Asha,> > >

> > > Lets start with basics:> > > ------------ --------- -----> > >> > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana)> > >> > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. This are

> > Oopachaya> > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial (please refer my> > > article about free will). Especially we see that fifth house from> > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of native (for example> > in> > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord which gives> > occult> > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and> > shows

> > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to mantra and faith> > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning this bhavas I was> > > referring to placement from Lagnesh.

> > >> > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana)> > >> > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on platform of> > Dusthanas.> > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha between dusthana lord> > and> > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas depending on being in> > Sura or> > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra eugolize Buddha &

> > Venus> > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it gives occult> > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and secretive nature,> > advise> > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in twelfth can give

> > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is also there -> > Parasara)> > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H).> > >> > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in reading the

> > results.> > >> > > Hope it helps.> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz> > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > email: rafal@

> > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > >> > >> > > ASHA napisa?(a):> > > >> > > >> > > > Rafal ji,> > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and 12th?

> > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result> > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result?> > > > asha> > > >> > > >> > >

> > >> > >

July 26, 2007

Dear Rafal,

In a similar vien what would excange of 7th lord saturn with 10th lord

Mars in Dasama mean.

And in the same situation if the 9th lord is exalted in the 7th house

and the 7th lord debilitaed in 10th house. in Dasama.

Thanks and regards,

Mike

vedic astrology

[vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz

26 July 2007 10:27

vedic astrology

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lagnesh in 8th or 12th

rafal ji

*hraum namah adityaya*

Dear Shreeya,

In Dasamsa it means that native like short-projects and like to get

money quickly (quickly retire). Similar to 10L in 5H.

In Navamsa it would show reasons for break of 1st relationship - this

will be the quality of native represented by that Graha. Generally

native can like or have karma connected to short-terms relationships.

I have chart where girl broke due to character traits of native, this

was especially connnected to His quality of being harsh and cold. It was

2nd relationship and 3L Sani was in Lagna.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) <rafal%40rohinaa.com> com

Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

venusgaal2003 napisa?(a):

>

> Dear Rafal,

>

> What if there is exchange between navamasa LL and 8th lord ?what

> does it indicate?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Regards

> Shreeya

>

> vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40>

> <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz

> <starsuponme wrote:

> >

> > *hraum namah adityaya*

> >

> > Dear Supriti,

> >

> > We can use all dasas while timing activation of those kind of

> Yogas.

> > Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when the dasa of planet

> posited

> > in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This is opposite for bad

> bhava

> > (dusthana/3H).Sookshma Parivartana should be seen especially from

> > Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana refers to time of

> > particular activities in life.

> >

> > Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is independent and this 'touch'

> the

> > native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL int that order).

> >

> > Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and this should

> be

> > especially seen when looking at Dasas for predicting events.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rafal Gendarz

> > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > email: rafal

> > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com

> >

> > supriti108 napisa?(a):

> > >

> > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > > Dear Rafal,

> > >

> > > How do we time the transformation due to parivartana. Visti ji

> > > mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there any other methods.

> > >

> > > Thank you.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Supriti

> > >

> > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%

> 40>,

> > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rafalji,

> > > > What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and the 12th

> > > > lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty. How to

> > > > offset this lagna by remedial measures. The problem

> > > > becomes compounded because the lagna lord is Venus

> > > > with Taurus ascendant.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Manoj

> > > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather

> > > > > Purna-Yoga which

> > > > > cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if

> > > > > L,LL, AL are involved).

> > > > > One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or

> > > > > rather should go).

> > > > > Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture.

> > > > > These kind of people

> > > > > doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6

> > > > > to Lagna).

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > >

> > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanx so much again for ur response and further

> > > > > elaboration, however

> > > > > > i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put a

> > > > > logic for Ma/coral

> > > > > > or any other logic - my question is that by

> > > > > exchnage if Ra is now in

> > > > > > 9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka

> > > > > sthana - and for Ra

> > > > > > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence

> > > > > was the question

> > > > > > that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give the

> > > > > stone or avoid it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was using

> > > > > this pg as the ref:

> > > > > > http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/

> > > > > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish-

> > > > > > i.html

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in-

> jyotish-

> > > <http://varahamihira

<http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish->

..blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish-

> <http://varahamihira

<http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish->

..blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish->>

> > > i.html>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by

> > > > > what pg279 point 3) in

> > > > > > VRA says.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So probably Guru Mantra wud be better?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa

> > > > > to arrive at the

> > > > > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this

> > > > > chart:

> > > > > > http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/

> > > > > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part-

> > > > > > 1.pdf

> > > > >

> > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-2-

> Part-

> > > 1.pdf

> > > <http://

<http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part->

..org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part-

> <http://

<http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part->

..org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part->

> 1.pdf>>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra

> > > > > is also in ninth,

> > > > > > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of the

> > > > > latter factor?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given - but

> > > > > wud not apply here

> > > > > > since it is inimical to Me?

> > > > > > Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra

> > > > > recommended or do we go

> > > > > > only for the lord of 9h for mantra?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on:

> > > > > > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt

> > > > > this

> > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are

> > > > > very bad and

> > > > > > shows what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern

> > > > > over Lagna being 6th

> > > > > > from lagnesh.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanx again

> > > > > > SS

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com>,

> > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would

> > > > > be in seventh bhava

> > > > > > we

> > > > > > > will perscribe Coral and everything will be

> > > > > nice..No its not like

> > > > > > that.

> > > > > > > Please read VRA section about Gem perscription.

> > > > > Yes, Ucchista

> > > > > > Ganapati

> > > > > > > worship is neccesary.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in

> > > > > ninth) with Kamala

> > > > > > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This will allow

> > > > > to marry without

> > > > > > delay.

> > > > > > > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be

> > > > > important to sustain

> > > > > > marriage.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from

> > > > > inheritance.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti,

> > > > > interest in medicine

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and

> > > > > will be strong

> > > > > > warrior

> > > > > > > and he can have buisness with printing books or

> > > > > working with

> > > > > > publishing.

> > > > > > > He can also gain from occult and will be know as

> > > > > sensitive and

> > > > > > dynamic

> > > > > > > person.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru

> > > > > > > email: rafal@

> > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls

> > > > > cud you explain

> > > > > > what u

> > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th

> > > > > from Lagnesh wrt the

> > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH

> > > > > are very bad and

> > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence

> > > > > my concern over

> > > > > > Lagna

> > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to

> > > > > marriage, native shd not be

> > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another

> > > > > mssg (sohamsa) - the

> > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings,

> > > > > silly mistakes in

> > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after

> > > > > wearing that stone

> > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have

> > > > > done him better to

> > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or

> > > > > wud u still suggest

> > > > > > stone

> > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve

> > > > > are also in exchange

> > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence

> > > > > the question.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne

> > > > > > > > SS

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com

> > > > > <sohamsa%

> > > > > > 40. com>,

> > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow

> > > > > more dharma than

> > > > > > > > occult. In

> > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.

> > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is

> > > > > Sharada yoga per BPHS.

> > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > yoga

> > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have

> > > > > > > > > loose morals.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > === message truncated ===

> > > >

> > >

> >

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