Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Wendy, If this link is not working, go to barackobama.com and take the link to fightthesmears.com You will find the birth certificate there. It seems quite authentic or they would not put it on the site. Your intuition is like always on the mark. Do let us know of your views on the chart. It is a very strong chart. BTW, for all list members, the time of birth is mentioned as 7-24p.m. Best wishes, Neena jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Neena, > > Wow! That is fantastic! Absolutely restores my trust in my own intuition > regarding a native's lagna. Quite apart from the physical appearance of > Obama (long face) I had absolutely no reason to look at Capricorn other > than my own intuition. Once I'd cast the chart, I knew it was him...this > was definitely based on intuition rather than knowledge. I still haven't > (as yet) managed to take a serious look at the chart to verify any > events...hope to soon! > > I really am pleased that Capricorn has now been confirmed...it does > bolster my confidence :-) > > BTW Neena, that link doesn't take me to the page you specified...can you > check the URL again. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > > > > > - > " neenako " <neenako > <jyotish-vidya > > Friday, June 13, 2008 12:52 PM > Re: Barack Obama's horoscope > > > > Hi Wendy and Everyone, > > I have been a little out of touch with the group. Sorry for that. > > I just came across this site which has posted the birth certificate > of Barack Obama as given by his campaign. Thought it would be of > interest to group members. All those interested could check it out at > > www.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert > > > The lagna is Capricorn and current dasa is of Jupiter/ Moon. Both > are very well placed in the chart. > > Best Wishes and God bless, > > Neena > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Dear All, Another location where the copy of the birth certificate could be viewed is: http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/06/obamas_birth_certificate\ _yes_h.php Regards, Krishna neenako <neenako wrote: Wendy, If this link is not working, go to barackobama.com and take the link to fightthesmears.com You will find the birth certificate there. It seems quite authentic or they would not put it on the site. Your intuition is like always on the mark. Do let us know of your views on the chart. It is a very strong chart. BTW, for all list members, the time of birth is mentioned as 7-24p.m. Best wishes, Neena jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Neena, > > Wow! That is fantastic! Absolutely restores my trust in my own intuition > regarding a native's lagna. Quite apart from the physical appearance of > Obama (long face) I had absolutely no reason to look at Capricorn other > than my own intuition. Once I'd cast the chart, I knew it was him...this > was definitely based on intuition rather than knowledge. I still haven't > (as yet) managed to take a serious look at the chart to verify any > events...hope to soon! > > I really am pleased that Capricorn has now been confirmed...it does > bolster my confidence :-) > > BTW Neena, that link doesn't take me to the page you specified...can you > check the URL again. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > > > > > - > " neenako " <neenako > <jyotish-vidya > > Friday, June 13, 2008 12:52 PM > Re: Barack Obama's horoscope > > > > Hi Wendy and Everyone, > > I have been a little out of touch with the group. Sorry for that. > > I just came across this site which has posted the birth certificate > of Barack Obama as given by his campaign. Thought it would be of > interest to group members. All those interested could check it out at > > www.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert > > > The lagna is Capricorn and current dasa is of Jupiter/ Moon. Both > are very well placed in the chart. > > Best Wishes and God bless, > > Neena > Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one roof. Click here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Dear Bhaskar, //What about saying something about a Leo now. We had some talks on Capricorns. My photo too is there on in the shelf. I too need Mrs.Wendy's good comments to hear. The bad ones may be told to the spirits. Ha Ha.// You must know that the below description is very general and doesn't account for other influences on lagna. So, generally speaking, Leos have well developed bones and broad forehead (similar to Sagittarius). They are of moderate stature, well built and muscular. Appearance is dignified, imposing and commanding. They have impressive (penetrating) eyes. They project an aura of intense confidence and have a magnetic physical appearance which attracts attention. Persons born with this lagna are generally noble, large hearted, magnanimous and generous. They have great faith in friends and relatives. They are fond of authority and are quite ambitious. When they are angry they roar like lions. They have capacity to face adverse circumstances. PS: If my memory serves me I also gave you a description of yout basic characteristics as per the Pitta dosha that is reflected so strongly with Mars in Leo lagna...do you recall that? Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Dear Mrs.Wendy, I do remember You have given me previously a description and you did mention about the Pitta doshna, and I too mentioned that this was confirmed by one of my Masters who taught me Tele thereapy or distance healing, which he did by checking my nadi, when I was studying under him. Mars in leo, you rightly said is adding to this Pitta. Apart from this, Fixed sign again appearing in Navamsha (Vargottama Lagna), and Sun, Moon, and Lagna in odd signs and fiery signs involved would add to these characteristics. My Moon too is in Sagittarius. Thanks for the reply and sorry for bothering you. regards, jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar, > > //What about saying something about a Leo now. > We had some talks on Capricorns. My photo > too is there on in the shelf. I too need > Mrs.Wendy's good comments to hear. The bad > ones may be told to the spirits. Ha Ha.// > > You must know that the below description is very general and doesn't > account for other influences on lagna. > > So, generally speaking, Leos have well developed bones and broad forehead > (similar to Sagittarius). They are of moderate stature, well built and > muscular. Appearance is dignified, imposing and commanding. They have > impressive (penetrating) eyes. They project an aura of intense confidence > and have a magnetic physical appearance which attracts attention. > Persons born with this lagna are generally noble, large hearted, > magnanimous and generous. They have great faith in friends and relatives. > They are fond of authority and are quite ambitious. When they are angry > they roar like lions. They have capacity to face adverse circumstances. > > PS: If my memory serves me I also gave you a description of yout basic > characteristics as per the Pitta dosha that is reflected so strongly with > Mars in Leo lagna...do you recall that? > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Dear Krishna, I think you could have read those comments too. In the morning, I did notice with some element of surprise that the serial no. of the certificate is missing. Even that is a validated copy of the orignal certificate issued for applying passport etc. generaly any State Authority issues the same with the date of issue. Surprisingly that too missing. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. ================================= jyotish-vidya , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: > > Dear All, > > Another location where the copy of the birth certificate could be viewed is: > > http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/06/obamas_birth_c ertificate_yes_h.php > > Regards, > Krishna > > neenako <neenako wrote: > > Wendy, > If this link is not working, go to barackobama.com and take the link > to fightthesmears.com > You will find the birth certificate there. > > It seems quite authentic or they would not put it on the site. > > Your intuition is like always on the mark. > > Do let us know of your views on the chart. > > It is a very strong chart. > > BTW, for all list members, the time of birth is mentioned as 7- 24p.m. > > Best wishes, > > Neena > jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " > <jyotishvidya@> wrote: > > > > Dear Neena, > > > > Wow! That is fantastic! Absolutely restores my trust in my own > intuition > > regarding a native's lagna. Quite apart from the physical > appearance of > > Obama (long face) I had absolutely no reason to look at Capricorn > other > > than my own intuition. Once I'd cast the chart, I knew it was > him...this > > was definitely based on intuition rather than knowledge. I still > haven't > > (as yet) managed to take a serious look at the chart to verify any > > events...hope to soon! > > > > I really am pleased that Capricorn has now been confirmed...it > does > > bolster my confidence :-) > > > > BTW Neena, that link doesn't take me to the page you > specified...can you > > check the URL again. > > > > Best Wishes, > > Mrs. Wendy > > http://JyotishVidya.com > > ___ > > > > > > > > > > - > > " neenako " <neenako@> > > <jyotish-vidya > > > Friday, June 13, 2008 12:52 PM > > Re: Barack Obama's horoscope > > > > > > > > Hi Wendy and Everyone, > > > > I have been a little out of touch with the group. Sorry for that. > > > > I just came across this site which has posted the birth certificate > > of Barack Obama as given by his campaign. Thought it would be of > > interest to group members. All those interested could check it out > at > > > > www.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert > > > > > > The lagna is Capricorn and current dasa is of Jupiter/ Moon. Both > > are very well placed in the chart. > > > > Best Wishes and God bless, > > > > Neena > > > Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one roof. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Dear Prashant, If I've done my sums correct, 19:24 (4th) Honolulu time would be 11:54 (5th) your time. Now, as you were born at 09:16, there is a time difference of 2hrs.38min...right? For instance, for Moon to be at the same degree in your charts you would have to be born at 11:54. Let's test that and see what happens... Okay, entering 11:54 on 5th Aug, PL gives your Moon at 10:34:02. Barack Obama has Moon at 10:02:21... Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " astro desk " <astro.prashantkumar <jyotish-vidya > Friday, June 13, 2008 4:18 PM Re: Re: Barack Obama's horoscope Dear Wendy, there is a academic question here from Obama;s chart we understand that places West of GMT have their Asc, longitudes behind those of East of GMT I think I have posted my data here on Albinos here I am born a day later to Obama on the 5th and for technical reasons the clock could be close to 15.30 Hrs apart in time zone and yet his Moons deg is 1 deg ahead of mine any reason for this. will post my data again here 5/8/61, 9.16 AM, MADRAS INDIA i am not considering any other aspect here as I know ppl born in the same hospital same time too will have different future depending on their Karma balances in past lives and the families into which they r born also. Best wishes Prashantkumar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Dear Ravindramani, I too noticed that the certificate number is blanked out. I was wondering what is the purpose of hiding the certificate number. But, it looks like the issue date is same as the " Date filed by Registrar " given toward the bootom on the left side. Another thing is that there is no signature of the issuing authority! Is this normal for American birth certificates? I don't know. Regards, Krishna ravindramani <ravindramani wrote: Dear Krishna, I think you could have read those comments too. In the morning, I did notice with some element of surprise that the serial no. of the certificate is missing. Even that is a validated copy of the orignal certificate issued for applying passport etc. generaly any State Authority issues the same with the date of issue. Surprisingly that too missing. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. ================================= jyotish-vidya , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: > > Dear All, > > Another location where the copy of the birth certificate could be viewed is: > > http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/06/obamas_birth_c ertificate_yes_h.php > > Regards, > Krishna > > neenako <neenako wrote: > > Wendy, > If this link is not working, go to barackobama.com and take the link > to fightthesmears.com > You will find the birth certificate there. > > It seems quite authentic or they would not put it on the site. > > Your intuition is like always on the mark. > > Do let us know of your views on the chart. > > It is a very strong chart. > > BTW, for all list members, the time of birth is mentioned as 7- 24p.m. > > Best wishes, > > Neena > jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " > <jyotishvidya@> wrote: > > > > Dear Neena, > > > > Wow! That is fantastic! Absolutely restores my trust in my own > intuition > > regarding a native's lagna. Quite apart from the physical > appearance of > > Obama (long face) I had absolutely no reason to look at Capricorn > other > > than my own intuition. Once I'd cast the chart, I knew it was > him...this > > was definitely based on intuition rather than knowledge. I still > haven't > > (as yet) managed to take a serious look at the chart to verify any > > events...hope to soon! > > > > I really am pleased that Capricorn has now been confirmed...it > does > > bolster my confidence :-) > > > > BTW Neena, that link doesn't take me to the page you > specified...can you > > check the URL again. > > > > Best Wishes, > > Mrs. Wendy > > http://JyotishVidya.com > > ___ > > > > > > > > > > - > > " neenako " <neenako@> > > <jyotish-vidya > > > Friday, June 13, 2008 12:52 PM > > Re: Barack Obama's horoscope > > > > > > > > Hi Wendy and Everyone, > > > > I have been a little out of touch with the group. Sorry for that. > > > > I just came across this site which has posted the birth certificate > > of Barack Obama as given by his campaign. Thought it would be of > > interest to group members. All those interested could check it out > at > > > > www.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert > > > > > > The lagna is Capricorn and current dasa is of Jupiter/ Moon. Both > > are very well placed in the chart. > > > > Best Wishes and God bless, > > > > Neena > > > Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one roof. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Dear Ravindramani and Krishna, It clearly says on the birth certificate that any alterations invalidate the certificate. Do you honestly think anyone would be so naive as to publish Obama's birth certificate on the net without first blacking out some vital information? Having a valid (unaltered) copy of a birth certificate made available on the net would be incredibly stupid. Would you publish yours without first ensuring that unsavoury characters could not print it and use it for malicious purposes, or would you invalidate it by removing some vital information. Think about it! Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " ravindramani " <ravindramani <jyotish-vidya > Friday, June 13, 2008 11:09 PM Re: Barack Obama's horoscope Dear Krishna, I think you could have read those comments too. In the morning, I did notice with some element of surprise that the serial no. of the certificate is missing. Even that is a validated copy of the orignal certificate issued for applying passport etc. generaly any State Authority issues the same with the date of issue. Surprisingly that too missing. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. ================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Dear Wendy, Yes, what you say makes sense! Regards, Krishna Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya wrote: Dear Ravindramani and Krishna, It clearly says on the birth certificate that any alterations invalidate the certificate. Do you honestly think anyone would be so naive as to publish Obama's birth certificate on the net without first blacking out some vital information? Having a valid (unaltered) copy of a birth certificate made available on the net would be incredibly stupid. Would you publish yours without first ensuring that unsavoury characters could not print it and use it for malicious purposes, or would you invalidate it by removing some vital information. Think about it! Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " ravindramani " <ravindramani <jyotish-vidya > Friday, June 13, 2008 11:09 PM Re: Barack Obama's horoscope Dear Krishna, I think you could have read those comments too. In the morning, I did notice with some element of surprise that the serial no. of the certificate is missing. Even that is a validated copy of the orignal certificate issued for applying passport etc. generaly any State Authority issues the same with the date of issue. Surprisingly that too missing. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. ================================= Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Dear Mrs. Wendy, You have a point. That too came in my mind. Still at the first instance, for an outsider, this very doubt would certainly come. Yet, I would like to request you to read the following few lines. In India, there are number of instances that the horoscopes of politicians which generally available with the astrologers are different from the original one. The politicians themselves circulate the fake ones, in order to confuse the other camps so that they (the rival) may not know potential periods in their charts and hide their own strategies to be followed in crucial times. It is not unusual in the case of celebrities such as sports persons, leading actors etc. in India. That is so with famous personalities in number of fields. You may recall such a discussion took place in our Group too, not in the distant past, on an Indian political personality, whose birth data was so different from the published one from the Indian Parliament site and the available one in the Jyotish Groups. As far as I am concerned, my purpose is the right birth time and the date and place would facilitate to understand me Obama and his chart at this crucial hour for my limited purposes and that too if he runs ultimately the race. My concern is restricted to that only. It is not that whether he is a US citizen or not. As a government servant, my code of conduct does not permit me delving more in to contemporary politics and making comments on political issues, which has wider ramifications. That is one of the reasons; I suppressed my temptations to share my knowledge write some of my views on mundane astrology in the Group for sometime though I promised to write. I even penned a series using the charts of political personalities of India how Saturn helped them to rise in Indian democracy and why I mentioned Saturn represents Democracy in one of my recent mails. For example, discussing Mundane Astrology, minus political personalities and their charts is meaning less to understand how an eclipse makes impact in a country's life and its masses. As a general practice, in any State of India, there would be a serial no. on the birth certificate (i.e. the file no. from which the certificate is being issued). When I saw it is blocked, some element of surprise sprang in my mind. That is all. In no way, I wish to involve myself, whether the certificate in question is a genuine or otherwise. It makes no difference to me personally. Regards, Sincerely, C.S. Ravindramani. ================================================================ > - > " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya > <jyotish-vidya > > Friday, June 13, 2008 11:41 PM > Re: Re: Barack Obama's horoscope > > > Dear Ravindramani and Krishna, > > It clearly says on the birth certificate that any alterations invalidate > the certificate. Do you honestly think anyone would be so naive as to > publish Obama's birth certificate on the net without first blacking out > some vital information? Having a valid (unaltered) copy of a birth > certificate made available on the net would be incredibly stupid. Would > you publish yours without first ensuring that unsavoury characters could > not print it and use it for malicious purposes, or would you invalidate > it by removing some vital information. > > Think about it! > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > > > - > " ravindramani " <ravindramani > <jyotish-vidya > > Friday, June 13, 2008 11:09 PM > Re: Barack Obama's horoscope > > > Dear Krishna, > > I think you could have read those comments too. In the morning, I > did notice with some element of surprise that the serial no. of the > certificate is missing. Even that is a validated copy of the orignal > certificate issued for applying passport etc. generaly any State > Authority issues the same with the date of issue. Surprisingly that > too missing. > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. > > ================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Dear Ravindramani, //In India, there are number of instances that the horoscopes of politicians which generally available with the astrologers are different from the original one.// I'm well aware that this sort of thing goes on in India, and is not just confined to politicians. However I think I can say with some certainty that it's not something that's practised in the West. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " ravindramani " <ravindramani <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, June 14, 2008 12:55 AM Re: Barack Obama's horoscope Dear Mrs. Wendy, You have a point. That too came in my mind. Still at the first instance, for an outsider, this very doubt would certainly come. Yet, I would like to request you to read the following few lines. In India, there are number of instances that the horoscopes of politicians which generally available with the astrologers are different from the original one. The politicians themselves circulate the fake ones, in order to confuse the other camps so that they (the rival) may not know potential periods in their charts and hide their own strategies to be followed in crucial times. It is not unusual in the case of celebrities such as sports persons, leading actors etc. in India. That is so with famous personalities in number of fields. You may recall such a discussion took place in our Group too, not in the distant past, on an Indian political personality, whose birth data was so different from the published one from the Indian Parliament site and the available one in the Jyotish Groups. As far as I am concerned, my purpose is the right birth time and the date and place would facilitate to understand me Obama and his chart at this crucial hour for my limited purposes and that too if he runs ultimately the race. My concern is restricted to that only. It is not that whether he is a US citizen or not. As a government servant, my code of conduct does not permit me delving more in to contemporary politics and making comments on political issues, which has wider ramifications. That is one of the reasons; I suppressed my temptations to share my knowledge write some of my views on mundane astrology in the Group for sometime though I promised to write. I even penned a series using the charts of political personalities of India how Saturn helped them to rise in Indian democracy and why I mentioned Saturn represents Democracy in one of my recent mails. For example, discussing Mundane Astrology, minus political personalities and their charts is meaning less to understand how an eclipse makes impact in a country's life and its masses. As a general practice, in any State of India, there would be a serial no. on the birth certificate (i.e. the file no. from which the certificate is being issued). When I saw it is blocked, some element of surprise sprang in my mind. That is all. In no way, I wish to involve myself, whether the certificate in question is a genuine or otherwise. It makes no difference to me personally. Regards, Sincerely, C.S. Ravindramani. ================================================================ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Dear Wendy yes at that rate u need to take 1.54 hrs but the Sun and Moon and other planets must be as much behind as it was on 4th in Eastern time zones isnt it as we see same tightis for same date this is one of the confusing things we get when some priests who use local almanacs in India who cast this data and get wrong lagnas, moon may be ok in most cases, degrees may differ. when Makara Lagna in Madras or Honololu must have similar Moons long isnt it on 4th for both places and any other date too. best wishes {rashant kumar On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya wrote: > Dear Prashant, > > If I've done my sums correct, 19:24 (4th) Honolulu time would be 11:54 > (5th) your time. Now, as you were born at 09:16, there is a time > difference of 2hrs.38min...right? > > For instance, for Moon to be at the same degree in your charts you would > have to be born at 11:54. Let's test that and see what happens... > > Okay, entering 11:54 on 5th Aug, PL gives your Moon at 10:34:02. Barack > Obama has Moon at 10:02:21... > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com <http://jyotishvidya.com/> > ___ > > - > " astro desk " <astro.prashantkumar<astro.prashantkumar%40gmail.com> > > > <jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>> > Friday, June 13, 2008 4:18 PM > Re: Re: Barack Obama's horoscope > > Dear Wendy, > > there is a academic question here from Obama;s chart > > we understand that places West of GMT have their Asc, longitudes behind > those of East of GMT > > I think I have posted my data here on Albinos here > > I am born a day later to Obama on the 5th > and for technical reasons the clock could be close to 15.30 Hrs apart in > time zone and yet his Moons deg is 1 deg ahead of mine any reason for > this. > > will post my data again here > > 5/8/61, 9.16 AM, MADRAS INDIA > > i am not considering any other aspect here as I know ppl born in the same > hospital same time too will have different future depending on their > Karma > balances in past lives and the families into which they r born also. > > Best wishes > > Prashantkumar > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Sir Barack Obama 7 24 PM, Augest 4,1961,Honolulu,Hawaii. Makara Lagna Jupiter Dasa running Moon Antardasa. Moon lord of 7th placed in 5th in Moolathrikona house, saturn in lagna,retro,vargotamma and debilitated jupiter with Neechabhanga,and Mercury and Sun aspecting lagna from the 7th. any clear Indications of he becoming president? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Hello Chandramohan, I'm wondering who your questions are addressed to...don't know anyone by the name of 'Sir' here? However I might suggest a couple of things you might like to consider regarding Obama's chart. First his Saturn pratyantar dasa beginning in just a few days. Retrograde lagnesh Saturn, closely conjunct retrograde 12th lord Jupiter, is currently transiting 8th house in nakshatra of Ketu. 8th, as we know, is the house of conflicts, scandals, accusations, upheavals calamities, battles, change, dangers, accidents etc.. From 8th, Saturn will be aspecting both his 10th house of status/reputation and 2nd house holding Ketu...2nd happens to be 10th from Moon in his horoscope. Saturn is also aspecting bhukti lord Moon in 5th. As we've seen his campaign has already been marked by one scandal after the other. This I can only see increasing when Saturn P/D begins. Further to this, 8th holds Mars who is currently aspecting 10th, 1st and 2nd from his sign of debility (Cancer). This debilitated (transit) Mars is joined by Ketu who, as already mentioned, occupies 10th from Moon. I will leave you (all) to mull over these implications... Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Chandramohan S " <cmsiit <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, June 14, 2008 8:59 AM Re: Re: Barack Obama's horoscope Sir Barack Obama 7 24 PM, Augest 4,1961,Honolulu,Hawaii. Makara Lagna Jupiter Dasa running Moon Antardasa. Moon lord of 7th placed in 5th in Moolathrikona house, saturn in lagna,retro,vargotamma and debilitated jupiter with Neechabhanga,and Mercury and Sun aspecting lagna from the 7th. any clear Indications of he becoming president? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Dear Ravindramani, I feel I should clarify my statement (below) where I said that the practice of tampering with birth details was not practiced in the West as it is in India. I really should have made it clear that this is due solely, in my opinion, to the fact that Astrology is just not that ingrained into the Western psyche. I'm sure the idea that an astrologer could or would use their birth details against them would not even surface in the minds of most people. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, June 14, 2008 1:03 AM Re: Re: Barack Obama's horoscope Dear Ravindramani, //In India, there are number of instances that the horoscopes of politicians which generally available with the astrologers are different from the original one.// I'm well aware that this sort of thing goes on in India, and is not just confined to politicians. However I think I can say with some certainty that it's not something that's practised in the West. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " ravindramani " <ravindramani <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, June 14, 2008 12:55 AM Re: Barack Obama's horoscope Dear Mrs. Wendy, You have a point. That too came in my mind. Still at the first instance, for an outsider, this very doubt would certainly come. Yet, I would like to request you to read the following few lines. In India, there are number of instances that the horoscopes of politicians which generally available with the astrologers are different from the original one. The politicians themselves circulate the fake ones, in order to confuse the other camps so that they (the rival) may not know potential periods in their charts and hide their own strategies to be followed in crucial times. It is not unusual in the case of celebrities such as sports persons, leading actors etc. in India. That is so with famous personalities in number of fields. You may recall such a discussion took place in our Group too, not in the distant past, on an Indian political personality, whose birth data was so different from the published one from the Indian Parliament site and the available one in the Jyotish Groups. As far as I am concerned, my purpose is the right birth time and the date and place would facilitate to understand me Obama and his chart at this crucial hour for my limited purposes and that too if he runs ultimately the race. My concern is restricted to that only. It is not that whether he is a US citizen or not. As a government servant, my code of conduct does not permit me delving more in to contemporary politics and making comments on political issues, which has wider ramifications. That is one of the reasons; I suppressed my temptations to share my knowledge write some of my views on mundane astrology in the Group for sometime though I promised to write. I even penned a series using the charts of political personalities of India how Saturn helped them to rise in Indian democracy and why I mentioned Saturn represents Democracy in one of my recent mails. For example, discussing Mundane Astrology, minus political personalities and their charts is meaning less to understand how an eclipse makes impact in a country's life and its masses. As a general practice, in any State of India, there would be a serial no. on the birth certificate (i.e. the file no. from which the certificate is being issued). When I saw it is blocked, some element of surprise sprang in my mind. That is all. In no way, I wish to involve myself, whether the certificate in question is a genuine or otherwise. It makes no difference to me personally. Regards, Sincerely, C.S. Ravindramani. ================================================================ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Hello Wendy, Correct me if am wrong, I see, that the aspects between house 1,(Sat R & amp; Jup R & nbsp;) and 7th house (Mer. & nbsp;and Sun,) and sun & nbsp;been in bad placement & nbsp;the only & nbsp;benefit is financially. Furthermore according to my poor understanding; indicates marital problems with wife, also the Sun & nbsp;lord of the 8th ( evil house), is & nbsp;placed in the 7th which also indicates again marital problems, and of course evil house indicates adverse situations. & nbsp; your advice will be greatly appreciated & nbsp;eligio & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; --- On Fri, 6/13/08, Wendy Vasicek & lt;jyotishvidya & gt; wrote: Wendy Vasicek jyotishvidya, Re: Re: Barack Obama's horoscope jyotish-vidya Dae: Friday, June 13, 2008, 10:06 PM Hello Chandramohan, I'm wondering who your questions are addressed to...don't know anyone by the name of 'Sir' here? However I might suggest a couple of things you might like to consider regarding Obama's chart. First his Saturn pratyantar dasa beginning in just a few days. Retrograde lagnesh Saturn, closely conjunct retrograde 12th lord Jupiter, is currently transiting 8th house in nakshatra of Ketu. 8th, as we know, is the house of conflicts, scandals, accusations, upheavals calamities, battles, change, dangers, accidents etc.. From 8th, Saturn will be aspecting both his 10th house of status/reputation and 2nd house holding Ketu...2nd happens to be 10th from Moon in his horoscope. Saturn is also aspecting bhukti lord Moon in 5th. As we've seen his campaign has already been marked by one scandal after the other. This I can only see increasing when Saturn P/D begins. Further to this, 8th holds Mars who is currently aspecting 10th, 1st and 2nd from his sign of debility (Cancer). This debilitated (transit) Mars is joined by Ketu who, as already mentioned, occupies 10th from Moon. I will leave you (all) to mull over these implications. .. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya .com ____________ _________ _________ _______ - " Chandramohan S " & lt;cmsiit (AT) gmail (DOT) com & gt; & lt;jyotish-vidya & gt; Saturday, June 14, 2008 8:59 AM Re: Re: Barack Obama's horoscope Sir Barack Obama 7 24 PM, Augest 4,1961,Honolulu, Hawaii. Makara Lagna Jupiter Dasa running Moon Antardasa. Moon lord of 7th placed in 5th in Moolathrikona house, saturn in lagna,retro, vargotamma and debilitated jupiter with Neechabhanga, and Mercury and Sun aspecting lagna from the 7th. any clear Indications of he becoming president? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Dear Mrs. Wendy, It happens with even commonman. He wants to get admission in a school, he is short of a month as on the cut of date for eligibility, that one month is adjusted, the change in date of birth takes place. A person wanted to enter in to service. If the later date of birth from the original one gains the number of years in service. I can quote the reasons for it was happeing in India. Now it has been changed. People do not care for registering the date of birth and death in olden days. As time chages, this practice changes too in India. Parents are meticulous in their wards date of birth and get them registerd. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Ravindramani, > > I feel I should clarify my statement (below) where I said that the > practice of tampering with birth details was not practiced in the West as > it is in India. I really should have made it clear that this is due > solely, in my opinion, to the fact that Astrology is just not that > ingrained into the Western psyche. I'm sure the idea that an astrologer > could or would use their birth details against them would not even > surface in the minds of most people. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Dear List, One of our members asked me the issue involved in this thread in my private mail. As per my understanding of the issue involved, I write the following in the list for the benefit of others also. It involves simple arithmetic and understanding the movement of planets. a) Convert the time of birth in the Universal Time i.e. GMT b) Notice the change in date of birth c) Notice the change in time of birth d) Keep in mind the DST and War Time corrections when conversation takes place 1.5th August 1961, 9.16 AM, MADRAS INDIA (normal expression) 5th August 1961, 3.46 AM, Madras INDIA (after conversion into UT) He born at 226 minutes The longitude of Moon is 1 sign 9 degrees 10 minutes 32 seconds The longitude of Sun is 3 sign 19 degrees 9 minutes 52 seconds The longitude of Mercury is 4 sign 8 degrees 52 minutes 37 seconds 2.August 04, 1961, 7.24 pm, HONOLULU (normal expression) August 05, 1961, 5.24 am, Honolulu, USA (after conversion into UT) He born at 324 minutes The longitude of Moon is 1 sign 10 degrees 2 minutes 21 seconds The longitude of Sun is 3 sign19 degrees 13 minutes 47 seconds The longitude of Mercury is 3 sign 9 degrees 0 minutes 48 seconds The difference in birth time is only 98 minutes (clock) between the two moments of birth. In the first case, Moon traveled in 98 minutes (clock) the distance of 550 minutes (longitudinal) In the second case, Moon traveled in 98 minutes (clock) the distance of 602 minutes (longitudinal) The difference between the distances traveled by Moon is only 52 longitudinal minutes. Like wise the difference in the case of Sun would be 4 longitudinal minutes Like wise the difference in the case of Mercury would be 8 longitudinal minutes It differs from planet to planet due to their velocity/speed in travel. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani =========================== In jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Prashant, > > If I've done my sums correct, 19:24 (4th) Honolulu time would be 11:54 > (5th) your time. Now, as you were born at 09:16, there is a time > difference of 2hrs.38min...right? > > For instance, for Moon to be at the same degree in your charts you would > have to be born at 11:54. Let's test that and see what happens... > > Okay, entering 11:54 on 5th Aug, PL gives your Moon at 10:34:02. Barack > Obama has Moon at 10:02:21... > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > > > - > " astro desk " <astro.prashantkumar > <jyotish-vidya > > Friday, June 13, 2008 4:18 PM > Re: Re: Barack Obama's horoscope > > > Dear Wendy, > > there is a academic question here from Obama;s chart > > we understand that places West of GMT have their Asc, longitudes behind > those of East of GMT > > I think I have posted my data here on Albinos here > > I am born a day later to Obama on the 5th > and for technical reasons the clock could be close to 15.30 Hrs apart in > time zone and yet his Moons deg is 1 deg ahead of mine any reason for > this. > > will post my data again here > > 5/8/61, 9.16 AM, MADRAS INDIA > > i am not considering any other aspect here as I know ppl born in the same > hospital same time too will have different future depending on their > Karma > balances in past lives and the families into which they r born also. > > Best wishes > > Prashantkumar > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Dear Eligio, Indeed you're correct about the difficulties associated with wife. As we know already some of Michelle's actions have definitely contributed to the scandals surrounding his campaign. Her comments regarding certain things have blown up in his face on more than one occasion...this, in itself, would have had to have resulted in some tension, no doubt. What captures my attention at this time is YogaKaraka Venus in sign of great friend in 6th. This house shows our competitors and rivals and our ability to rise above them. He has, to now, managed to succeed in defeating his rival (Hillary Clinton), but now with 8th lord Sun joining Venus in transit through 6th, I have to wonder how long his competitive edge will last. Again the transit of Mars/Ketu over combust 6th lord Mercury in Cancer (sign of debility for Mars) has to be cause for some concern... It's worthwhile remembering that B.O. is still only the presumptive nominee, until the convention in August. Hillary Clinton, as we know, has not conceded - simply suspended her campaign - and could still feasibly gain the nomination in August. A pity we don't have a reliable birth time for her. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " ELIGIO MARIN " <tio_eligio <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, June 14, 2008 12:39 PM Re: Re: Barack Obama's horoscope Hello Wendy, Correct me if am wrong, I see, that the aspects between house 1,(Sat R & Jup R) and 7th house (Mer.and Sun,) and sun been in bad placement the only benefit is financially. Furthermore according to my poor understanding; indicates marital problems with wife, also the Sun lord of the 8th ( evil house), is placed in the 7th which also indicates again marital problems, and of course evil house indicates adverse situations. your advice will be greatly appreciated eligio --- On Fri, 6/13/08, Wendy Vasicek jyotishvidya wrote: Wendy Vasicek jyotishvidya, Re: Re: Barack Obama's horoscope jyotish-vidya Dae: Friday, June 13, 2008, 10:06 PM Hello Chandramohan, I'm wondering who your questions are addressed to...don't know anyone by the name of 'Sir' here? However I might suggest a couple of things you might like to consider regarding Obama's chart. First his Saturn pratyantar dasa beginning in just a few days. Retrograde lagnesh Saturn, closely conjunct retrograde 12th lord Jupiter, is currently transiting 8th house in nakshatra of Ketu. 8th, as we know, is the house of conflicts, scandals, accusations, upheavals calamities, battles, change, dangers, accidents etc.. From 8th, Saturn will be aspecting both his 10th house of status/reputation and 2nd house holding Ketu...2nd happens to be 10th from Moon in his horoscope. Saturn is also aspecting bhukti lord Moon in 5th. As we've seen his campaign has already been marked by one scandal after the other. This I can only see increasing when Saturn P/D begins. Further to this, 8th holds Mars who is currently aspecting 10th, 1st and 2nd from his sign of debility (Cancer). This debilitated (transit) Mars is joined by Ketu who, as already mentioned, occupies 10th from Moon. I will leave you (all) to mull over these implications. .. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya .com ____________ _________ _________ _______ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Hii but his sun seems to be extremely powerful? pls do tell me wats the " greatest " aspect of his horoscope.... generally combus t mercury hinders education.....but he Harvard Law School....Magna Cum Laude ... also his 7th lord moon in 5th house...and that too moola thrikona sign.. looking forward to hear from you all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Dear Ravindramani, Many thanks for making that so clear. It's been more years than I care to remember since I've attempted anything even vaguely connected with the manual mathematics associated with astrology (or anything else for that matter). Like they say; 'If you don't use it you Lose it " and these days the mind is a bit like a sieve...anything not consciously retained flowing out and precious little flowing in. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " ravindramani " <ravindramani <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, June 14, 2008 1:00 PM Re: Barack Obama's horoscope Dear List, One of our members asked me the issue involved in this thread in my private mail. As per my understanding of the issue involved, I write the following in the list for the benefit of others also. It involves simple arithmetic and understanding the movement of planets. a) Convert the time of birth in the Universal Time i.e. GMT b) Notice the change in date of birth c) Notice the change in time of birth d) Keep in mind the DST and War Time corrections when conversation takes place 1.5th August 1961, 9.16 AM, MADRAS INDIA (normal expression) 5th August 1961, 3.46 AM, Madras INDIA (after conversion into UT) He born at 226 minutes The longitude of Moon is 1 sign 9 degrees 10 minutes 32 seconds The longitude of Sun is 3 sign 19 degrees 9 minutes 52 seconds The longitude of Mercury is 4 sign 8 degrees 52 minutes 37 seconds 2.August 04, 1961, 7.24 pm, HONOLULU (normal expression) August 05, 1961, 5.24 am, Honolulu, USA (after conversion into UT) He born at 324 minutes The longitude of Moon is 1 sign 10 degrees 2 minutes 21 seconds The longitude of Sun is 3 sign19 degrees 13 minutes 47 seconds The longitude of Mercury is 3 sign 9 degrees 0 minutes 48 seconds The difference in birth time is only 98 minutes (clock) between the two moments of birth. In the first case, Moon traveled in 98 minutes (clock) the distance of 550 minutes (longitudinal) In the second case, Moon traveled in 98 minutes (clock) the distance of 602 minutes (longitudinal) The difference between the distances traveled by Moon is only 52 longitudinal minutes. Like wise the difference in the case of Sun would be 4 longitudinal minutes Like wise the difference in the case of Mercury would be 8 longitudinal minutes It differs from planet to planet due to their velocity/speed in travel. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani =========================== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 The Moon is Aflicted by Venus, The Sun Is badly placed, and the only good aspect as now is good financial situation, also the 8th house looks bad. & nbsp; & nbsp; --- On Sat, 6/14/08, Chandramohan S & lt;cmsiit & gt; wrote: Chandramohan S & lt;cmsiit & gt; Re: Re: Barack Obama's horoscope jyotish-vidya Saturday, June 14, 2008, 1:17 AM Hii but his sun seems to be extremely powerful? pls do tell me wats the " greatest " aspect of his horoscope... . generally combus t mercury hinders education... ..but he Harvard Law School....Magna Cum Laude ... also his 7th lord moon in 5th house...and that too moola thrikona sign.. looking forward to hear from you all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Hi...who? //generally combus t mercury hinders education.....but he Harvard Law School....Magna Cum Laude ...// Note: In navamsha, Mercury occupies Virgo (sign of exaltation)... We must remember also that lagna karaka Sun is strongly influenced by the conjunction with 9th lord Mercury...bestowing on him a strong intellectual nature. However we certainly can see the downside of Mercury combust in his decision making. Mercury is a significator of friends and B.O. has certainly not discriminated wisely in his choice of friends and associates. We see also his unwise choice of religious preceptors due to 9th lord's combustion etc, etc.. //also his 7th lord moon in 5th house...and that too moola thrikona sign..// Moon, I believe, is exalted in his 5th house. With Moon in this house we see clearly that he has two daughters. Literary works are also governed by this house and he has successfully published two books due to the beneficence of exalted Moon. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Chandramohan S " <cmsiit <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, June 14, 2008 2:17 PM Re: Re: Barack Obama's horoscope Hii but his sun seems to be extremely powerful? pls do tell me wats the " greatest " aspect of his horoscope.... generally combus t mercury hinders education.....but he Harvard Law School....Magna Cum Laude ... also his 7th lord moon in 5th house...and that too moola thrikona sign.. looking forward to hear from you all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Dear Ravindramani, well thanks for the reply, looks logical as it is closer to India being wwest of USA, THIS show how doesnt fit the International date line WHERE v gain a day when we travel est of US and llose a day if we retun to Inda too just a notional one. NOW THAT THEY R behind us seems also notional except for the Asc most seem close to our positions and as usaid depends on their velocity it is different for a given time from place to place. thanks Prashant kumar On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 10:30 AM, ravindramani <ravindramani wrote: > Dear List, > > One of our members asked me the issue involved in this thread in my > private mail. As per my understanding of the issue involved, I write > the following in the list for the benefit of others also. It > involves simple arithmetic and understanding the movement of planets. > > a) Convert the time of birth in the Universal Time i.e. GMT > b) Notice the change in date of birth > c) Notice the change in time of birth > d) Keep in mind the DST and War Time corrections when > conversation takes place > > 1.5th August 1961, 9.16 AM, MADRAS INDIA (normal expression) > 5th August 1961, 3.46 AM, Madras INDIA (after conversion into UT) > > He born at 226 minutes > > The longitude of Moon is 1 sign 9 degrees 10 minutes 32 seconds > The longitude of Sun is 3 sign 19 degrees 9 minutes 52 seconds > The longitude of Mercury is 4 sign 8 degrees 52 minutes 37 seconds > > 2.August 04, 1961, 7.24 pm, HONOLULU (normal expression) > August 05, 1961, 5.24 am, Honolulu, USA (after conversion into UT) > > He born at 324 minutes > > The longitude of Moon is 1 sign 10 degrees 2 minutes 21 seconds > The longitude of Sun is 3 sign19 degrees 13 minutes 47 seconds > The longitude of Mercury is 3 sign 9 degrees 0 minutes 48 seconds > > The difference in birth time is only 98 minutes (clock) between the > two moments of birth. > In the first case, Moon traveled in 98 minutes (clock) the distance > of 550 minutes (longitudinal) > In the second case, Moon traveled in 98 minutes (clock) the distance > of 602 minutes (longitudinal) > The difference between the distances traveled by Moon is only 52 > longitudinal minutes. > > Like wise the difference in the case of Sun would be 4 longitudinal > minutes > Like wise the difference in the case of Mercury would be 8 > longitudinal minutes > > It differs from planet to planet due to their velocity/speed in > travel. > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > =========================== > > In jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>, " Wendy > Vasicek " <jyotishvidya > wrote: > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > If I've done my sums correct, 19:24 (4th) Honolulu time would be > 11:54 > > (5th) your time. Now, as you were born at 09:16, there is a time > > difference of 2hrs.38min...right? > > > > For instance, for Moon to be at the same degree in your charts you > would > > have to be born at 11:54. Let's test that and see what happens... > > > > Okay, entering 11:54 on 5th Aug, PL gives your Moon at 10:34:02. > Barack > > Obama has Moon at 10:02:21... > > > > Best Wishes, > > Mrs. Wendy > > http://JyotishVidya.com <http://jyotishvidya.com/> > > ___ > > > > > > - > > " astro desk " <astro.prashantkumar > > <jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>> > > Friday, June 13, 2008 4:18 PM > > Re: Re: Barack Obama's horoscope > > > > > > Dear Wendy, > > > > there is a academic question here from Obama;s chart > > > > we understand that places West of GMT have their Asc, longitudes > behind > > those of East of GMT > > > > I think I have posted my data here on Albinos here > > > > I am born a day later to Obama on the 5th > > and for technical reasons the clock could be close to 15.30 Hrs > apart in > > time zone and yet his Moons deg is 1 deg ahead of mine any reason > for > > this. > > > > will post my data again here > > > > 5/8/61, 9.16 AM, MADRAS INDIA > > > > i am not considering any other aspect here as I know ppl born in > the same > > hospital same time too will have different future depending on > their > > Karma > > balances in past lives and the families into which they r born also. > > > > Best wishes > > > > Prashantkumar > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 - Hi, All planets are weak in combustion but Mercury is an exception. Mercury is quite close to Sun most of the time and as such its likelihood of being combust is a very very common occurence. In fact the combination of Mercury and Sun gives a sharp intellect and analytical abilities. Hence , a brilliant academic career and also his ability to run a brilliant campaign. In fact , Mercury alone in a sign shows a certain weakness as far as the significations of the planet are concerned. Neena -- In jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Hi...who? > > //generally combus t mercury hinders education.....but he Harvard Law > School....Magna Cum Laude ...// > > Note: In navamsha, Mercury occupies Virgo (sign of exaltation)... We must > remember also that lagna karaka Sun is strongly influenced by the > conjunction with 9th lord Mercury...bestowing on him a strong > intellectual nature. > > However we certainly can see the downside of Mercury combust in his > decision making. Mercury is a significator of friends and B.O. has > certainly not discriminated wisely in his choice of friends and > associates. We see also his unwise choice of religious preceptors due to > 9th lord's combustion etc, etc.. > > //also his 7th lord moon in 5th house...and that too moola thrikona > sign..// > > Moon, I believe, is exalted in his 5th house. With Moon in this house we > see clearly that he has two daughters. Literary works are also governed > by this house and he has successfully published two books due to the > beneficence of exalted Moon. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > > > - > " Chandramohan S " <cmsiit > <jyotish-vidya > > Saturday, June 14, 2008 2:17 PM > Re: Re: Barack Obama's horoscope > > > Hii > but his sun seems to be extremely powerful? > > pls do tell me wats the " greatest " aspect of his horoscope.... > generally combus t mercury hinders education.....but he Harvard Law > School....Magna Cum Laude ... > > also his 7th lord moon in 5th house...and that too moola thrikona sign.. > > > looking forward to hear from you all > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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