Barack Obama's horoscope

June 11, 2008

Hii all

the time I had found in some site was 1:06 pm

thats is 13 :06 hours.

that will make him libra lagna...

with lord of 9th and 11th in 10th ...

and 10th lord in 8th

and sun with shadbala exceeding 213 %

looking forward to hear from you all

June 11, 2008

Dear Wendy,

thanks for the info will work on this too.You have not given ur conclusion

on the 19.11 data yet, unless I have missed it....!

And for a moment if we accept Capricorn Asc also then the transites I said r

even more sensitive as it involves the Natal 8th house and

transit Satn is 6/8 to natal Satn ill placed Satn transiting over Natal

rahu in 8th, aspecting Transit Mars and Sun in 10th house around polling

time. this is recalling the transits at that time. have not worked on this

yet.will there be some violence directed at him? by any Neo racial

groups,,,,

will have to work on this aspect also

I am missing ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZINE its anual number used to give us all

major transits , eclipses and country specific trends to super imposse the

picture.

this year I have yet to get the rashtriya panchang which also gives such

tech info.

will work on the data u have given me and get back asap.

Best wishes

Prashant Kumar

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya

wrote:

> Dear Prashant,

>

> //I am still using the available data and don't have his background info

> to verify and write either//

>

> Background info is easily obtained with a quick internet search...

>

> * Born in Honolulu, Hawaii (4 Aug 1961)

> * Father left when he was 2yrs old and parents divorced.

> * Mother remarried and they moved to Indonesia (1 Jan 1967)

> * At 10yrs old he returned to Honolulu to live with maternal

> grandparents.

> * After graduating high school (1 Jun 1979) he moved to Los Angeles.

> * Enrols at Occidental College (1 Sep 1979)

> * Transfers to Columbia University (1 Sep 1981)

> * Father died in car crash (1982)

> * Begins work at Business International Corp (1 Jul 1983)

> * Travels to Europe for three weeks then Kenya for five weeks meeting

> relatives for first time (summer 1988)

> * Graduates from Harvard Law School (1 Jun 1991)

> * Married Michelle (18 Oct 1992)

> * Mother died of ovarian cancer (7 Nov 1995)

> * Elected to Illinois State Senate (4 Nov 1996)

> * First child female (1999)

> * Second child female (2001)

> * Re-elected to Illinois State Senate (4 Nov 2002)

> * Publishes first book - Dreams from My Father (10 Aug 2004)

> * Elected to U.S. Senate (2 Nov 2004)

> * Publishes second book - The Audacity of Hope (17 Oct 2006)

>

> Perhaps you could compare the possible lagnas (I'm leaning towards

> Capricorn, T.O.B. approx. 19:11) using the above timeline to confirm

> events.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com <http://jyotishvidya.com/>

> ___

>

> -

> " astro desk "

<astro.prashantkumar<astro.prashantkumar%40gmail.com>

> >

> <jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>>

> Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:02 PM

> Re: Barack Obama 's horoscope Will He win?

>

> Dear Wendy,

>

> I am still using the available data and don't have his background info to

> verify and write either

>

> but as u know I use raman's ayanamsa and here

> in D9 i get Makara with Mars+Moon in it Mesha Navamsa lagna

> M R bhatts works do suggest appearences to be taken from Navamsa position

> of

> chandra and lagna too.

> fundamental principles of Astrology by M Ramakrishna Bhutt. MLBDS

> publications.

>

> which can cover ur observations on capriconr features hopefully

>

> Transits wise i see he has to pass three important dates June 29 when

> Mars

> transits rahu, Sept 28 when Mars sdprvyd Natal Satn, Oct 6 when Mars

> aspects Natal Guru

>

> He has 24 Bindhus in Simha-Leo and 3 for sani in it even the following

> one

> in Kanya-virgo is 25 and 0 for sani, NORMALLY IT GIVES unfavourable

> results

> with such a low points and 0 can threaten his financial and physical

> entity

> too.

>

> Jupt-Vnus runs from 3/3/08 to 5/11/10

> Vedha position wise both r favorable.

> jup-vns-Moon 3/10/ to 23/12/08, where it is exalted, in D9, D10 it is in

> 10th place can help him do well.,

>

> Jupt/Guru is not a yoga karaka for Tarus Asc.

>

> Guru is in 9th in d1 with 9th lord, in 12th in D9, in 9th own sign in d10

> Guru is in Dun's star and Aspected by Sani a natural malefic., most

> planets

> r in Sun's star.

> who is in the 12th to his own sign.

>

> there r v little chances he will last his full term health wise for the

> said

> reasons even if he wins

> odds r v high on life and Jupt, Vns dasa, bukti are 6/8 to one another,

> sukra is in 9th in d9, 6th in D10

>

> all celebrety data is subject to speculation with risks attached,

> whatever

> happens on end result we must treat this as a excercie in discussion. My

> analysis r always on ramans aynamsa so won't be afriad in defending it

> for

> the given data.its full impact will be seen till Satn enters Libra-risk

> on

> Obama's life exist in Leo, Virgo transit of Satn.

>

> Best wishes

>

> Prashant kumar

>

June 11, 2008

Dear Prashant,

//thanks for the info will work on this too.You have not given ur

conclusion

on the 19.11 data yet, unless I have missed it....!//

I just haven't been able to find the time, unfortunately. I have in the

back of my mind to respond to Deepak regarding his exalted 1st and 10th

lords and how this relates to the fact that, in spite of frequent job

changes, he's invariably moved up the ladder (so to speak) with each new

position...

The problem for me is finding the time to put all else aside and just

focus on his chart...proving difficult at the moment.

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

___

-

" astro desk " <astro.prashantkumar

<jyotish-vidya >

Wednesday, June 11, 2008 3:07 PM

Re: Barack Obama's horoscope

Dear Wendy,

thanks for the info will work on this too.You have not given ur

conclusion

on the 19.11 data yet, unless I have missed it....!

And for a moment if we accept Capricorn Asc also then the transites I

said r

even more sensitive as it involves the Natal 8th house and

transit Satn is 6/8 to natal Satn ill placed Satn transiting over Natal

rahu in 8th, aspecting Transit Mars and Sun in 10th house around polling

time. this is recalling the transits at that time. have not worked on

this

yet.will there be some violence directed at him? by any Neo racial

groups,,,,

will have to work on this aspect also

I am missing ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZINE its anual number used to give us all

major transits , eclipses and country specific trends to super imposse

the

picture.

this year I have yet to get the rashtriya panchang which also gives such

tech info.

will work on the data u have given me and get back asap.

Best wishes

Prashant Kumar

June 11, 2008

Dear Chandra, What time zone have you apply?

& nbsp;

Thank you.

--- On Wed, 6/11/08, Chandramohan S & lt;cmsiit & gt; wrote:

Chandramohan S & lt;cmsiit & gt;

Re: Barack Obama's horoscope

jyotish-vidya

Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 1:16 AM

Hii all

the time I had found in some site was 1:06 pm

thats is 13 :06 hours.

that will make him libra lagna...

with lord of 9th and 11th in 10th ...

and 10th lord in 8th

and sun with shadbala exceeding 213 %

looking forward to hear from you all

June 11, 2008

Elango,

10 hrs +GMT

lat 19d 32'37 " N

Long 155d 55' 55 " W

prashant

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:29 PM, ELIGIO MARIN <tio_eligio wrote:

> Dear Chandra, What time zone have you apply?

> & nbsp;

> Thank you.

>

> --- On Wed, 6/11/08, Chandramohan S

& lt;cmsiit<cmsiit%40gmail.com> & gt;

> wrote:

>

> Chandramohan S & lt;cmsiit <cmsiit%40gmail.com> & gt;

> Re: Barack Obama's horoscope

> jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>

> Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 1:16 AM

>

> Hii all

> the time I had found in some site was 1:06 pm

> thats is 13 :06 hours.

>

> that will make him libra lagna...

> with lord of 9th and 11th in 10th ...

> and 10th lord in 8th

> and sun with shadbala exceeding 213 %

> looking forward to hear from you all

>

June 11, 2008

Hii

10 hours west of GMT

June 12, 2008

Hi. folks, you know, just find out that Commander McCain is also a libra lagna.

& nbsp;

Eligius

--- On Wed, 6/11/08, astro desk & lt;astro.prashantkumar & gt; wrote:

astro desk & lt;astro.prashantkumar & gt;

Re: Barack Obama's horoscope

jyotish-vidya

Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 11:23 AM

Elango,

10 hrs +GMT

lat 19d 32'37 " N

Long 155d 55' 55 " W

prashant

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:29 PM, ELIGIO MARIN & lt;tio_eligio & gt;

wrote:

& gt; Dear Chandra, What time zone have you apply?

& gt; & amp;nbsp;

& gt; Thank you.

& gt;

& gt; --- On Wed, 6/11/08, Chandramohan S & amp;lt;cmsiit (AT) gmail (DOT)

com & lt;cmsiit%40gmail. com & gt; & amp;gt;

& gt; wrote:

& gt;

& gt; Chandramohan S & amp;lt;cmsiit (AT) gmail (DOT) com & lt;cmsiit%40gmail.

com & gt; & amp;gt;

& gt; Re: Barack Obama's horoscope

& gt; jyotish-vidya & lt;jyotish-vidya% 40.

com & gt;

& gt; Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 1:16 AM

& gt;

& gt; Hii all

& gt; the time I had found in some site was 1:06 pm

& gt; thats is 13 :06 hours.

& gt;

& gt; that will make him libra lagna...

& gt; with lord of 9th and 11th in 10th ...

& gt; and 10th lord in 8th

& gt; and sun with shadbala exceeding 213 %

& gt; looking forward to hear from you all

& gt;

June 12, 2008

Hi Wendy and Everyone,

I have been a little out of touch with the group. Sorry for that.

I just came across this site which has posted the birth certificate

of Barack Obama as given by his campaign. Thought it would be of

interest to group members. All those interested could check it out at

www.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert

The lagna is Capricorn and current dasa is of Jupiter/ Moon. Both

are very well placed in the chart.

Best Wishes and God bless,

Neena

jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek "

<jyotishvidya wrote:

>

> Dear Prashant,

>

> //I am still using the available data and don't have his

background info

> to verify and write either//

>

> Background info is easily obtained with a quick internet search...

>

> * Born in Honolulu, Hawaii (4 Aug 1961)

> * Father left when he was 2yrs old and parents divorced.

> * Mother remarried and they moved to Indonesia (1 Jan 1967)

> * At 10yrs old he returned to Honolulu to live with maternal

> grandparents.

> * After graduating high school (1 Jun 1979) he moved to Los

Angeles.

> * Enrols at Occidental College (1 Sep 1979)

> * Transfers to Columbia University (1 Sep 1981)

> * Father died in car crash (1982)

> * Begins work at Business International Corp (1 Jul 1983)

> * Travels to Europe for three weeks then Kenya for five weeks

meeting

> relatives for first time (summer 1988)

> * Graduates from Harvard Law School (1 Jun 1991)

> * Married Michelle (18 Oct 1992)

> * Mother died of ovarian cancer (7 Nov 1995)

> * Elected to Illinois State Senate (4 Nov 1996)

> * First child female (1999)

> * Second child female (2001)

> * Re-elected to Illinois State Senate (4 Nov 2002)

> * Publishes first book - Dreams from My Father (10 Aug 2004)

> * Elected to U.S. Senate (2 Nov 2004)

> * Publishes second book - The Audacity of Hope (17 Oct 2006)

>

> Perhaps you could compare the possible lagnas (I'm leaning towards

> Capricorn, T.O.B. approx. 19:11) using the above timeline to

confirm

> events.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ___

>

> -

> " astro desk " <astro.prashantkumar

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:02 PM

> Re: Barack Obama 's horoscope Will He win?

>

> Dear Wendy,

>

> I am still using the available data and don't have his background

info to

> verify and write either

>

> but as u know I use raman's ayanamsa and here

> in D9 i get Makara with Mars+Moon in it Mesha Navamsa lagna

> M R bhatts works do suggest appearences to be taken from Navamsa

position

> of

> chandra and lagna too.

> fundamental principles of Astrology by M Ramakrishna Bhutt. MLBDS

> publications.

>

> which can cover ur observations on capriconr features hopefully

>

> Transits wise i see he has to pass three important dates June 29

when

> Mars

> transits rahu, Sept 28 when Mars sdprvyd Natal Satn, Oct 6 when

Mars

> aspects Natal Guru

>

> He has 24 Bindhus in Simha-Leo and 3 for sani in it even the

following

> one

> in Kanya-virgo is 25 and 0 for sani, NORMALLY IT GIVES

unfavourable

> results

> with such a low points and 0 can threaten his financial and

physical

> entity

> too.

>

> Jupt-Vnus runs from 3/3/08 to 5/11/10

> Vedha position wise both r favorable.

> jup-vns-Moon 3/10/ to 23/12/08, where it is exalted, in D9, D10 it

is in

> 10th place can help him do well.,

>

> Jupt/Guru is not a yoga karaka for Tarus Asc.

>

> Guru is in 9th in d1 with 9th lord, in 12th in D9, in 9th own sign

in d10

> Guru is in Dun's star and Aspected by Sani a natural malefic., most

> planets

> r in Sun's star.

> who is in the 12th to his own sign.

>

> there r v little chances he will last his full term health wise

for the

> said

> reasons even if he wins

> odds r v high on life and Jupt, Vns dasa, bukti are 6/8 to one

another,

> sukra is in 9th in d9, 6th in D10

>

> all celebrety data is subject to speculation with risks attached,

> whatever

> happens on end result we must treat this as a excercie in

discussion. My

> analysis r always on ramans aynamsa so won't be afriad in

defending it

> for

> the given data.its full impact will be seen till Satn enters Libra-

risk

> on

> Obama's life exist in Leo, Virgo transit of Satn.

>

> Best wishes

>

> Prashant kumar

>

June 13, 2008

Hello neenako, I was wandering if we can compare info. to see were am

wrong? & nbsp;I have him with ascendant in Libra at 24.10 degrees. Please help me

to correct my information.

& nbsp;

Info as follows: & nbsp;8/4/1961, 13:06 hrs, Zone 10:00 HST

Honolulu, Hi USA

Longitude: 157W52

Latitude: & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; 21N18 & nbsp; & nbsp; Cur Per Ju/Ve/Me

& nbsp;

Your help will be appreciated

& nbsp;

Eligio

& nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & n\

bsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp;

--- On Thu, 6/12/08, neenako & lt;neenako & gt; wrote:

neenako & lt;neenako & gt;

Re: Barack Obama's horoscope

jyotish-vidya

Thursday, June 12, 2008, 11:52 PM

Hi Wendy and Everyone,

I have been a little out of touch with the group. Sorry for that.

I just came across this site which has posted the birth certificate

of Barack Obama as given by his campaign. Thought it would be of

interest to group members. All those interested could check it out at

www.barackobama. com/page/ invite/birthcert

The lagna is Capricorn and current dasa is of Jupiter/ Moon. Both

are very well placed in the chart.

Best Wishes and God bless,

Neena

jyotish-vidya, " Wendy Vasicek "

& lt;jyotishvidya@ ... & gt; wrote:

& gt;

& gt; Dear Prashant,

& gt;

& gt; //I am still using the available data and don't have his

background info

& gt; to verify and write either//

& gt;

& gt; Background info is easily obtained with a quick internet search...

& gt;

& gt; * Born in Honolulu, Hawaii (4 Aug 1961)

& gt; * Father left when he was 2yrs old and parents divorced.

& gt; * Mother remarried and they moved to Indonesia (1 Jan 1967)

& gt; * At 10yrs old he returned to Honolulu to live with maternal

& gt; grandparents.

& gt; * After graduating high school (1 Jun 1979) he moved to Los

Angeles.

& gt; * Enrols at Occidental College (1 Sep 1979)

& gt; * Transfers to Columbia University (1 Sep 1981)

& gt; * Father died in car crash (1982)

& gt; * Begins work at Business International Corp (1 Jul 1983)

& gt; * Travels to Europe for three weeks then Kenya for five weeks

meeting

& gt; relatives for first time (summer 1988)

& gt; * Graduates from Harvard Law School (1 Jun 1991)

& gt; * Married Michelle (18 Oct 1992)

& gt; * Mother died of ovarian cancer (7 Nov 1995)

& gt; * Elected to Illinois State Senate (4 Nov 1996)

& gt; * First child female (1999)

& gt; * Second child female (2001)

& gt; * Re-elected to Illinois State Senate (4 Nov 2002)

& gt; * Publishes first book - Dreams from My Father (10 Aug 2004)

& gt; * Elected to U.S. Senate (2 Nov 2004)

& gt; * Publishes second book - The Audacity of Hope (17 Oct 2006)

& gt;

& gt; Perhaps you could compare the possible lagnas (I'm leaning towards

& gt; Capricorn, T.O.B. approx. 19:11) using the above timeline to

confirm

& gt; events.

& gt;

& gt; Best Wishes,

& gt; Mrs. Wendy

& gt; http://JyotishVidya .com

& gt; ____________ _________ _________ _______

& gt;

& gt; -

& gt; " astro desk " & lt;astro.prashantkuma r & gt;

& gt; & lt;jyotish-vidya & gt;

& gt; Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:02 PM

& gt; Re: Barack Obama 's horoscope Will He win?

& gt;

& gt; Dear Wendy,

& gt;

& gt; I am still using the available data and don't have his background

info to

& gt; verify and write either

& gt;

& gt; but as u know I use raman's ayanamsa and here

& gt; in D9 i get Makara with Mars+Moon in it Mesha Navamsa lagna

& gt; M R bhatts works do suggest appearences to be taken from Navamsa

position

& gt; of

& gt; chandra and lagna too.

& gt; fundamental principles of Astrology by M Ramakrishna Bhutt. MLBDS

& gt; publications.

& gt;

& gt; which can cover ur observations on capriconr features hopefully

& gt;

& gt; Transits wise i see he has to pass three important dates June 29

when

& gt; Mars

& gt; transits rahu, Sept 28 when Mars sdprvyd Natal Satn, Oct 6 when

Mars

& gt; aspects Natal Guru

& gt;

& gt; He has 24 Bindhus in Simha-Leo and 3 for sani in it even the

following

& gt; one

& gt; in Kanya-virgo is 25 and 0 for sani, NORMALLY IT GIVES

unfavourable

& gt; results

& gt; with such a low points and 0 can threaten his financial and

physical

& gt; entity

& gt; too.

& gt;

& gt; Jupt-Vnus runs from 3/3/08 to 5/11/10

& gt; Vedha position wise both r favorable.

& gt; jup-vns-Moon 3/10/ to 23/12/08, where it is exalted, in D9, D10 it

is in

& gt; 10th place can help him do well.,

& gt;

& gt; Jupt/Guru is not a yoga karaka for Tarus Asc.

& gt;

& gt; Guru is in 9th in d1 with 9th lord, in 12th in D9, in 9th own sign

in d10

& gt; Guru is in Dun's star and Aspected by Sani a natural malefic., most

& gt; planets

& gt; r in Sun's star.

& gt; who is in the 12th to his own sign.

& gt;

& gt; there r v little chances he will last his full term health wise

for the

& gt; said

& gt; reasons even if he wins

& gt; odds r v high on life and Jupt, Vns dasa, bukti are 6/8 to one

another,

& gt; sukra is in 9th in d9, 6th in D10

& gt;

& gt; all celebrety data is subject to speculation with risks attached,

& gt; whatever

& gt; happens on end result we must treat this as a excercie in

discussion. My

& gt; analysis r always on ramans aynamsa so won't be afriad in

defending it

& gt; for

& gt; the given data.its full impact will be seen till Satn enters Libra-

risk

& gt; on

& gt; Obama's life exist in Leo, Virgo transit of Satn.

& gt;

& gt; Best wishes

& gt;

& gt; Prashant kumar

& gt;

June 13, 2008

Dear Neena,

Wow! That is fantastic! Absolutely restores my trust in my own intuition

regarding a native's lagna. Quite apart from the physical appearance of

Obama (long face) I had absolutely no reason to look at Capricorn other

than my own intuition. Once I'd cast the chart, I knew it was him...this

was definitely based on intuition rather than knowledge. I still haven't

(as yet) managed to take a serious look at the chart to verify any

events...hope to soon!

I really am pleased that Capricorn has now been confirmed...it does

bolster my confidence :-)

BTW Neena, that link doesn't take me to the page you specified...can you

check the URL again.

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

___

-

" neenako " <neenako

<jyotish-vidya >

Friday, June 13, 2008 12:52 PM

Re: Barack Obama's horoscope

Hi Wendy and Everyone,

I have been a little out of touch with the group. Sorry for that.

I just came across this site which has posted the birth certificate

of Barack Obama as given by his campaign. Thought it would be of

interest to group members. All those interested could check it out at

www.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert

The lagna is Capricorn and current dasa is of Jupiter/ Moon. Both

are very well placed in the chart.

Best Wishes and God bless,

Neena

June 13, 2008

Dear Group,

Of late, I notice in some of the messages from the Group, the

expression " & nbsp " . What is the meaning of that? Can any body

educate me on this point?

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

===========

jyotish-vidya , ELIGIO MARIN <tio_eligio

wrote:

>

> Hello neenako, I was wandering if we can compare info. to see were

am wrong? & nbsp;I have him with ascendant in Libra at 24.10 degrees.

Please help me to correct my information.

> & nbsp;

> Info as follows: & nbsp;8/4/1961, 13:06 hrs, Zone 10:00 HST

> Honolulu, Hi USA

> Longitude: 157W52

> Latitude: & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; 21N18 & nbsp; & nbsp; Cur Per Ju/Ve/Me

> & nbsp;

> Your help will be appreciated

> & nbsp;

> Eligio

>

& nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbs

p; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp;

>

> --- On Thu, 6/12/08, neenako neenako wrote:

>

> neenako neenako

> Re: Barack Obama's horoscope

> jyotish-vidya

> Thursday, June 12, 2008, 11:52 PM

>

Hi Wendy and Everyone,

>

> I have been a little out of touch with the group. Sorry for that.

>

> I just came across this site which has posted the birth certificate

> of Barack Obama as given by his campaign. Thought it would be of

> interest to group members. All those interested could check it out

at

>

> www.barackobama. com/page/ invite/birthcert

>

> The lagna is Capricorn and current dasa is of Jupiter/ Moon. Both

> are very well placed in the chart.

>

> Best Wishes and God bless,

>

> Neena

> jyotish-vidya, " Wendy Vasicek "

> & lt;jyotishvidya@ ... & gt; wrote:

> & gt;

> & gt; Dear Prashant,

> & gt;

> & gt; //I am still using the available data and don't have his

> background info

> & gt; to verify and write either//

> & gt;

> & gt; Background info is easily obtained with a quick internet

search...

> & gt;

> & gt; * Born in Honolulu, Hawaii (4 Aug 1961)

> & gt; * Father left when he was 2yrs old and parents divorced.

> & gt; * Mother remarried and they moved to Indonesia (1 Jan 1967)

> & gt; * At 10yrs old he returned to Honolulu to live with maternal

> & gt; grandparents.

> & gt; * After graduating high school (1 Jun 1979) he moved to Los

> Angeles.

> & gt; * Enrols at Occidental College (1 Sep 1979)

> & gt; * Transfers to Columbia University (1 Sep 1981)

> & gt; * Father died in car crash (1982)

> & gt; * Begins work at Business International Corp (1 Jul 1983)

> & gt; * Travels to Europe for three weeks then Kenya for five weeks

> meeting

> & gt; relatives for first time (summer 1988)

> & gt; * Graduates from Harvard Law School (1 Jun 1991)

> & gt; * Married Michelle (18 Oct 1992)

> & gt; * Mother died of ovarian cancer (7 Nov 1995)

> & gt; * Elected to Illinois State Senate (4 Nov 1996)

> & gt; * First child female (1999)

> & gt; * Second child female (2001)

> & gt; * Re-elected to Illinois State Senate (4 Nov 2002)

> & gt; * Publishes first book - Dreams from My Father (10 Aug 2004)

> & gt; * Elected to U.S. Senate (2 Nov 2004)

> & gt; * Publishes second book - The Audacity of Hope (17 Oct 2006)

> & gt;

> & gt; Perhaps you could compare the possible lagnas (I'm leaning

towards

> & gt; Capricorn, T.O.B. approx. 19:11) using the above timeline to

> confirm

> & gt; events.

> & gt;

> & gt; Best Wishes,

> & gt; Mrs. Wendy

> & gt; http://JyotishVidya .com

> & gt; ____________ _________ _________ _______

> & gt;

> & gt; -

> & gt; " astro desk " & lt;astro.prashantkuma r & gt;

> & gt; & lt;jyotish-vidya & gt;

> & gt; Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:02 PM

> & gt; Re: Barack Obama 's horoscope Will He

win?

> & gt;

> & gt; Dear Wendy,

> & gt;

> & gt; I am still using the available data and don't have his

background

> info to

> & gt; verify and write either

> & gt;

> & gt; but as u know I use raman's ayanamsa and here

> & gt; in D9 i get Makara with Mars+Moon in it Mesha Navamsa lagna

> & gt; M R bhatts works do suggest appearences to be taken from

Navamsa

> position

> & gt; of

> & gt; chandra and lagna too.

> & gt; fundamental principles of Astrology by M Ramakrishna Bhutt.

MLBDS

> & gt; publications.

> & gt;

> & gt; which can cover ur observations on capriconr features hopefully

> & gt;

> & gt; Transits wise i see he has to pass three important dates June

29

> when

> & gt; Mars

> & gt; transits rahu, Sept 28 when Mars sdprvyd Natal Satn, Oct 6

when

> Mars

> & gt; aspects Natal Guru

> & gt;

> & gt; He has 24 Bindhus in Simha-Leo and 3 for sani in it even the

> following

> & gt; one

> & gt; in Kanya-virgo is 25 and 0 for sani, NORMALLY IT GIVES

> unfavourable

> & gt; results

> & gt; with such a low points and 0 can threaten his financial and

> physical

> & gt; entity

> & gt; too.

> & gt;

> & gt; Jupt-Vnus runs from 3/3/08 to 5/11/10

> & gt; Vedha position wise both r favorable.

> & gt; jup-vns-Moon 3/10/ to 23/12/08, where it is exalted, in D9,

D10 it

> is in

> & gt; 10th place can help him do well.,

> & gt;

> & gt; Jupt/Guru is not a yoga karaka for Tarus Asc.

> & gt;

> & gt; Guru is in 9th in d1 with 9th lord, in 12th in D9, in 9th own

sign

> in d10

> & gt; Guru is in Dun's star and Aspected by Sani a natural malefic.,

most

> & gt; planets

> & gt; r in Sun's star.

> & gt; who is in the 12th to his own sign.

> & gt;

> & gt; there r v little chances he will last his full term health

wise

> for the

> & gt; said

> & gt; reasons even if he wins

> & gt; odds r v high on life and Jupt, Vns dasa, bukti are 6/8 to one

> another,

> & gt; sukra is in 9th in d9, 6th in D10

> & gt;

> & gt; all celebrety data is subject to speculation with risks

attached,

> & gt; whatever

> & gt; happens on end result we must treat this as a excercie in

> discussion. My

> & gt; analysis r always on ramans aynamsa so won't be afriad in

> defending it

> & gt; for

> & gt; the given data.its full impact will be seen till Satn enters

Libra-

> risk

> & gt; on

> & gt; Obama's life exist in Leo, Virgo transit of Satn.

> & gt;

> & gt; Best wishes

> & gt;

> & gt; Prashant kumar

> & gt;

>

June 13, 2008

I noticed every time am sending a mesage, may be is because my location is in

Chicago USA & nbsp;

--- On Fri, 6/13/08, ravindramani & lt;ravindramani & gt; wrote:

ravindramani & lt;ravindramani & gt;

Re: Barack Obama's horoscope

jyotish-vidya

Friday, June 13, 2008, 12:16 AM

Dear Group,

Of late, I notice in some of the messages from the Group, the

expression " & amp;nbsp " . What is the meaning of that? Can any body

educate me on this point?

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

===========

jyotish-vidya, ELIGIO MARIN & lt;tio_eligio@ ... & gt;

wrote:

& gt;

& gt; Hello neenako, I was wandering if we can compare info. to see were

am wrong? & amp;nbsp; I have him with ascendant in Libra at 24.10 degrees.

Please help me to correct my information.

& gt; & amp;nbsp;

& gt; Info as follows: & amp;nbsp; 8/4/1961, 13:06 hrs, Zone 10:00 HST

& gt; Honolulu, Hi USA

& gt; Longitude: 157W52

& gt; Latitude: & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; 21N18 & amp;nbsp; & amp; nbsp; Cur Per

Ju/Ve/Me

& gt; & amp;nbsp;

& gt; Your help will be appreciated

& gt; & amp;nbsp;

& gt; Eligio

& gt;

& amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp;

& amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbs

p; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp;

& amp;nbsp;

& gt;

& gt; --- On Thu, 6/12/08, neenako neenako wrote:

& gt;

& gt; neenako neenako

& gt; Re: Barack Obama's horoscope

& gt; jyotish-vidya

& gt; Thursday, June 12, 2008, 11:52 PM

& gt;

& gt; Hi Wendy and Everyone,

& gt;

& gt; I have been a little out of touch with the group. Sorry for that.

& gt;

& gt; I just came across this site which has posted the birth certificate

& gt; of Barack Obama as given by his campaign. Thought it would be of

& gt; interest to group members. All those interested could check it out

at

& gt;

& gt; www.barackobama. com/page/ invite/birthcert

& gt;

& gt; The lagna is Capricorn and current dasa is of Jupiter/ Moon. Both

& gt; are very well placed in the chart.

& gt;

& gt; Best Wishes and God bless,

& gt;

& gt; Neena

& gt; jyotish-vidya, " Wendy Vasicek "

& gt; & amp;lt;jyotishvidya@ ... & amp;gt; wrote:

& gt; & amp;gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; Dear Prashant,

& gt; & amp;gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; //I am still using the available data and don't have his

& gt; background info

& gt; & amp;gt; to verify and write either//

& gt; & amp;gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; Background info is easily obtained with a quick internet

search...

& gt; & amp;gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; * Born in Honolulu, Hawaii (4 Aug 1961)

& gt; & amp;gt; * Father left when he was 2yrs old and parents divorced.

& gt; & amp;gt; * Mother remarried and they moved to Indonesia (1 Jan 1967)

& gt; & amp;gt; * At 10yrs old he returned to Honolulu to live with maternal

& gt; & amp;gt; grandparents.

& gt; & amp;gt; * After graduating high school (1 Jun 1979) he moved to Los

& gt; Angeles.

& gt; & amp;gt; * Enrols at Occidental College (1 Sep 1979)

& gt; & amp;gt; * Transfers to Columbia University (1 Sep 1981)

& gt; & amp;gt; * Father died in car crash (1982)

& gt; & amp;gt; * Begins work at Business International Corp (1 Jul 1983)

& gt; & amp;gt; * Travels to Europe for three weeks then Kenya for five weeks

& gt; meeting

& gt; & amp;gt; relatives for first time (summer 1988)

& gt; & amp;gt; * Graduates from Harvard Law School (1 Jun 1991)

& gt; & amp;gt; * Married Michelle (18 Oct 1992)

& gt; & amp;gt; * Mother died of ovarian cancer (7 Nov 1995)

& gt; & amp;gt; * Elected to Illinois State Senate (4 Nov 1996)

& gt; & amp;gt; * First child female (1999)

& gt; & amp;gt; * Second child female (2001)

& gt; & amp;gt; * Re-elected to Illinois State Senate (4 Nov 2002)

& gt; & amp;gt; * Publishes first book - Dreams from My Father (10 Aug 2004)

& gt; & amp;gt; * Elected to U.S. Senate (2 Nov 2004)

& gt; & amp;gt; * Publishes second book - The Audacity of Hope (17 Oct 2006)

& gt; & amp;gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; Perhaps you could compare the possible lagnas (I'm leaning

towards

& gt; & amp;gt; Capricorn, T.O.B. approx. 19:11) using the above timeline to

& gt; confirm

& gt; & amp;gt; events.

& gt; & amp;gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; Best Wishes,

& gt; & amp;gt; Mrs. Wendy

& gt; & amp;gt; http://JyotishVidya .com

& gt; & amp;gt; ____________ _________ _________ _______

& gt; & amp;gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; -

& gt; & amp;gt; " astro desk " & amp;lt;astro.prashantk uma r & amp;gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; & amp;lt;jyotish- vidya & amp;gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:02 PM

& gt; & amp;gt; Re: Barack Obama 's horoscope Will He

win?

& gt; & amp;gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; Dear Wendy,

& gt; & amp;gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; I am still using the available data and don't have his

background

& gt; info to

& gt; & amp;gt; verify and write either

& gt; & amp;gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; but as u know I use raman's ayanamsa and here

& gt; & amp;gt; in D9 i get Makara with Mars+Moon in it Mesha Navamsa lagna

& gt; & amp;gt; M R bhatts works do suggest appearences to be taken from

Navamsa

& gt; position

& gt; & amp;gt; of

& gt; & amp;gt; chandra and lagna too.

& gt; & amp;gt; fundamental principles of Astrology by M Ramakrishna Bhutt.

MLBDS

& gt; & amp;gt; publications.

& gt; & amp;gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; which can cover ur observations on capriconr features hopefully

& gt; & amp;gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; Transits wise i see he has to pass three important dates June

29

& gt; when

& gt; & amp;gt; Mars

& gt; & amp;gt; transits rahu, Sept 28 when Mars sdprvyd Natal Satn, Oct 6

when

& gt; Mars

& gt; & amp;gt; aspects Natal Guru

& gt; & amp;gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; He has 24 Bindhus in Simha-Leo and 3 for sani in it even the

& gt; following

& gt; & amp;gt; one

& gt; & amp;gt; in Kanya-virgo is 25 and 0 for sani, NORMALLY IT GIVES

& gt; unfavourable

& gt; & amp;gt; results

& gt; & amp;gt; with such a low points and 0 can threaten his financial and

& gt; physical

& gt; & amp;gt; entity

& gt; & amp;gt; too.

& gt; & amp;gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; Jupt-Vnus runs from 3/3/08 to 5/11/10

& gt; & amp;gt; Vedha position wise both r favorable.

& gt; & amp;gt; jup-vns-Moon 3/10/ to 23/12/08, where it is exalted, in D9,

D10 it

& gt; is in

& gt; & amp;gt; 10th place can help him do well.,

& gt; & amp;gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; Jupt/Guru is not a yoga karaka for Tarus Asc.

& gt; & amp;gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; Guru is in 9th in d1 with 9th lord, in 12th in D9, in 9th own

sign

& gt; in d10

& gt; & amp;gt; Guru is in Dun's star and Aspected by Sani a natural malefic.,

most

& gt; & amp;gt; planets

& gt; & amp;gt; r in Sun's star.

& gt; & amp;gt; who is in the 12th to his own sign.

& gt; & amp;gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; there r v little chances he will last his full term health

wise

& gt; for the

& gt; & amp;gt; said

& gt; & amp;gt; reasons even if he wins

& gt; & amp;gt; odds r v high on life and Jupt, Vns dasa, bukti are 6/8 to one

& gt; another,

& gt; & amp;gt; sukra is in 9th in d9, 6th in D10

& gt; & amp;gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; all celebrety data is subject to speculation with risks

attached,

& gt; & amp;gt; whatever

& gt; & amp;gt; happens on end result we must treat this as a excercie in

& gt; discussion. My

& gt; & amp;gt; analysis r always on ramans aynamsa so won't be afriad in

& gt; defending it

& gt; & amp;gt; for

& gt; & amp;gt; the given data.its full impact will be seen till Satn enters

Libra-

& gt; risk

& gt; & amp;gt; on

& gt; & amp;gt; Obama's life exist in Leo, Virgo transit of Satn.

& gt; & amp;gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; Best wishes

& gt; & amp;gt;

& gt; & amp;gt; Prashant kumar

& gt; & amp;gt;

& gt;

June 13, 2008

PS: How it came about was; I was looking at Vic's website after he first

put up on the group and observed that he too, like many Capricorns, tends

to have a longish face. I thought then of Obama and what had struck me

most about him was his rather longish face.

I just converted the time I had to reflect Capricorn and really haven't

looked much more into the chart for verification...hope to soon!

BTW if anyone's interested, Vic has been busy building a new

website...not finished yet so I hope he doesn't mind too much if I give

you the link. http://www.vedicastrologer.net/

__________

Dear Neena,

Wow! That is fantastic! Absolutely restores my trust in my own intuition

regarding a native's lagna. Quite apart from the physical appearance of

Obama (long face) I had absolutely no reason to look at Capricorn other

than my own intuition. Once I'd cast the chart, I knew it was him...this

was definitely based on intuition rather than knowledge. I still haven't

(as yet) managed to take a serious look at the chart to verify any

events...hope to soon!

I really am pleased that Capricorn has now been confirmed...it does

bolster my confidence :-)

BTW Neena, that link doesn't take me to the page you specified...can you

check the URL again.

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

___

-

" neenako " <neenako

<jyotish-vidya >

Friday, June 13, 2008 12:52 PM

Re: Barack Obama's horoscope

Hi Wendy and Everyone,

I have been a little out of touch with the group. Sorry for that.

I just came across this site which has posted the birth certificate

of Barack Obama as given by his campaign. Thought it would be of

interest to group members. All those interested could check it out at

www.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert

The lagna is Capricorn and current dasa is of Jupiter/ Moon. Both

are very well placed in the chart.

Best Wishes and God bless,

Neena

June 13, 2008

Dear Mrs. Wendy,

How do you categorise my face ? Longish, Oval or Circle, with respect

to my Moon is in Capricorn? :-))) My photograph is in the Photos

section of the Group. What is your yardstics for this?

My boss is on leave. I am relatively free today. LOL.

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

====================================================

jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek "

<jyotishvidya wrote:

>

> PS: How it came about was; I was looking at Vic's website after he

first

> put up on the group and observed that he too, like many Capricorns,

tends

> to have a longish face. I thought then of Obama and what had struck

me

> most about him was his rather longish face.

>

> I just converted the time I had to reflect Capricorn and really

haven't

> looked much more into the chart for verification...hope to soon!

>

> BTW if anyone's interested, Vic has been busy building a new

> website...not finished yet so I hope he doesn't mind too much if I

give

> you the link. http://www.vedicastrologer.net/

> __________

June 13, 2008

Dear Ravindramani,

Now you've got me :-)

The thing is that Capricorns quite often have a longish face and/or heavy

jaw, due obviously to the fact that Saturn, the long lean planet, owns

both 1st and 2nd bhavas. Other lagnas are characterised (generally) by

other features.

It's said that Sagittarius natives have a well proportioned and

well-developed body. They are generally tall with a large forehead, bushy

eyebrows, graceful look, fair complexion (as per race of course) and

handsome figure.

Naturally planets influencing lagna will modify one's appearance

accordingly!

PS: I've added an earlier photo (of me) that shows what I mean by the

longish face characteristic of many Capricorns...I'm the one holding the

cup of tea (mouth a bit puckered as I'd obviously just taken a sip when

the picture was taken but I think you can still see what I mean about the

long face). My Sister (Fay) beside me is the one that passed away with

breast cancer a couple of years ago.

You can access the photo here:

http://ph.jyotish-vidya/photos/browse/c1b4

PPS: Perhaps, time permitting, we can dig into our libraries and compare

the physical characteristics of the twelve lagnas :-)

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

___

-

" ravindramani " <ravindramani

<jyotish-vidya >

Friday, June 13, 2008 1:54 PM

Re: Barack Obama's horoscope

Dear Mrs. Wendy,

How do you categorise my face ? Longish, Oval or Circle, with respect

to my Moon is in Capricorn? :-))) My photograph is in the Photos

section of the Group. What is your yardstics for this?

My boss is on leave. I am relatively free today. LOL.

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani.

====================================================

jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek "

<jyotishvidya wrote:

>

> PS: How it came about was; I was looking at Vic's website after he

first

> put up on the group and observed that he too, like many Capricorns,

tends

> to have a longish face. I thought then of Obama and what had struck

me

> most about him was his rather longish face.

>

> I just converted the time I had to reflect Capricorn and really

haven't

> looked much more into the chart for verification...hope to soon!

>

> BTW if anyone's interested, Vic has been busy building a new

> website...not finished yet so I hope he doesn't mind too much if I

give

> you the link. http://www.vedicastrologer.net/

> __________

June 13, 2008

PS: If you look again at the photos you will see that (proportionately)

your forehead is more prominent, whereas my long jaw is more prominent.

_________________________________

Dear Ravindramani,

Now you've got me :-)

The thing is that Capricorns quite often have a longish face and/or heavy

jaw, due obviously to the fact that Saturn, the long lean planet, owns

both 1st and 2nd bhavas. Other lagnas are characterised (generally) by

other features.

It's said that Sagittarius natives have a well proportioned and

well-developed body. They are generally tall with a large forehead, bushy

eyebrows, graceful look, fair complexion (as per race of course) and

handsome figure.

Naturally planets influencing lagna will modify one's appearance

accordingly!

PS: I've added an earlier photo (of me) that shows what I mean by the

longish face characteristic of many Capricorns...I'm the one holding the

cup of tea (mouth a bit puckered as I'd obviously just taken a sip when

the picture was taken but I think you can still see what I mean about the

long face). My Sister (Fay) beside me is the one that passed away with

breast cancer a couple of years ago.

You can access the photo here:

http://ph.jyotish-vidya/photos/browse/c1b4

PPS: Perhaps, time permitting, we can dig into our libraries and compare

the physical characteristics of the twelve lagnas :-)

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

___

June 13, 2008

Dear Mrs. Wendy,

I agree with you.

You should also agree with me that you were so smart and beautiful

in 1984, but with firm look and seriousness in your face.

In d-9, the second house receives the aspect of Mars, Venus and

saturn placed there. Sun is in lagna.

In natal chart the second house receives the aspect of Sun and

Venus, this grouping is aspected by Saturn who rules your lagna and

second house of face.

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

PS: Thanks for refreshing the basics.

==================================================================

jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek "

<jyotishvidya wrote:

>

> PS: If you look again at the photos you will see that

(proportionately)

> your forehead is more prominent, whereas my long jaw is more

prominent.

> _________________________________

>

> Dear Ravindramani,

>

> Now you've got me :-)

>

> The thing is that Capricorns quite often have a longish face

and/or heavy

> jaw, due obviously to the fact that Saturn, the long lean planet,

owns

> both 1st and 2nd bhavas. Other lagnas are characterised

(generally) by

> other features.

>

> It's said that Sagittarius natives have a well proportioned and

> well-developed body. They are generally tall with a large

forehead, bushy

> eyebrows, graceful look, fair complexion (as per race of course)

and

> handsome figure.

>

> Naturally planets influencing lagna will modify one's appearance

> accordingly!

>

> PS: I've added an earlier photo (of me) that shows what I mean by

the

> longish face characteristic of many Capricorns...I'm the one

holding the

> cup of tea (mouth a bit puckered as I'd obviously just taken a sip

when

> the picture was taken but I think you can still see what I mean

about the

> long face). My Sister (Fay) beside me is the one that passed away

with

> breast cancer a couple of years ago.

>

> You can access the photo here:

> http://ph.jyotish-vidya/photos/browse/c1b4

>

> PPS: Perhaps, time permitting, we can dig into our libraries and

compare

> the physical characteristics of the twelve lagnas :-)

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ___

>

June 13, 2008

Hii

Where is Obama's brith certificate?

if possible do send me the link?

looking forward to hear you alll

June 13, 2008

I still find her smart, beautiful and graceful

as per her age, and after reading what she writes,

no one can take her for granted. She gives the cute

figure of a responsible no-nonsense lady.

Hope Mrs.Wendy would not mind my lavish praise.

And I would never like to get on the wrong

side of the fence with her. Would prefer to

be in her good books always. She is really

respectable and lovely lady for me.

What about saying something about a Leo now.

We had some talks on Capricorns. My photo

too is there on in the shelf. I too need

Mrs.Wendy's good comments to hear. The bad

ones may be told to the spirits. Ha Ha.

Bhaskar.

jyotish-vidya , " ravindramani "

<ravindramani wrote:

>

> Dear Mrs. Wendy,

>

> I agree with you.

>

> You should also agree with me that you were so smart and beautiful

> in 1984, but with firm look and seriousness in your face.

>

> In d-9, the second house receives the aspect of Mars, Venus and

> saturn placed there. Sun is in lagna.

>

> In natal chart the second house receives the aspect of Sun and

> Venus, this grouping is aspected by Saturn who rules your lagna and

> second house of face.

>

> Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

>

> PS: Thanks for refreshing the basics.

> ==================================================================

>

> jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek "

> <jyotishvidya@> wrote:

> >

> > PS: If you look again at the photos you will see that

> (proportionately)

> > your forehead is more prominent, whereas my long jaw is more

> prominent.

> > _________________________________

> >

> > Dear Ravindramani,

> >

> > Now you've got me :-)

> >

> > The thing is that Capricorns quite often have a longish face

> and/or heavy

> > jaw, due obviously to the fact that Saturn, the long lean planet,

> owns

> > both 1st and 2nd bhavas. Other lagnas are characterised

> (generally) by

> > other features.

> >

> > It's said that Sagittarius natives have a well proportioned and

> > well-developed body. They are generally tall with a large

> forehead, bushy

> > eyebrows, graceful look, fair complexion (as per race of course)

> and

> > handsome figure.

> >

> > Naturally planets influencing lagna will modify one's appearance

> > accordingly!

> >

> > PS: I've added an earlier photo (of me) that shows what I mean by

> the

> > longish face characteristic of many Capricorns...I'm the one

> holding the

> > cup of tea (mouth a bit puckered as I'd obviously just taken a

sip

> when

> > the picture was taken but I think you can still see what I mean

> about the

> > long face). My Sister (Fay) beside me is the one that passed away

> with

> > breast cancer a couple of years ago.

> >

> > You can access the photo here:

> > http://ph.jyotish-vidya/photos/browse/c1b4

> >

> > PPS: Perhaps, time permitting, we can dig into our libraries and

> compare

> > the physical characteristics of the twelve lagnas :-)

> >

> > Best Wishes,

> > Mrs. Wendy

> > http://JyotishVidya.com

> > ___

> >

>

June 13, 2008

Hii

http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/3/BO_Birth_Certificate.jpg

this is the link.

how true is it?

looking forward to hear from you....

June 13, 2008

Dear Ravindramani,

//You should also agree with me that you were so smart and beautiful in

1984,//

Oh my goodness! You really have made this old lady's day :-))

//but with firm look and seriousness in your face.//

I think I was listening intently to what Fay was saying at the time; but

yes I do agree I'm inclined to be firm and serious most of the time.

I might add a little here about how (other) influences can modify the

appearance (at any given time). In the photo (with hat) I was suffering

full-blown diabetes. It hadn't yet been diagnosed so I wasn't on any

treatment. I'd put on a lot of weight and of course my bloated face

masked the normal facial features to a large extent. Note Jupiter

aspecting lagna whilst combust Venus aspects 2nd...both Venus and Jupiter

are associated with diabetes.

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

___

-

" ravindramani " <ravindramani

<jyotish-vidya >

Friday, June 13, 2008 3:30 PM

Re: Barack Obama's horoscope

Dear Mrs. Wendy,

I agree with you.

You should also agree with me that you were so smart and beautiful

in 1984, but with firm look and seriousness in your face.

In d-9, the second house receives the aspect of Mars, Venus and

saturn placed there. Sun is in lagna.

In natal chart the second house receives the aspect of Sun and

Venus, this grouping is aspected by Saturn who rules your lagna and

second house of face.

Regards, C.S. Ravindramani

PS: Thanks for refreshing the basics.

==================================================================

jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek "

<jyotishvidya wrote:

>

> PS: If you look again at the photos you will see that

(proportionately)

> your forehead is more prominent, whereas my long jaw is more

prominent.

> _________________________________

June 13, 2008

Dear Chandramohan,

The birth certificate has already been uploaded to the groups files

section. How true is it? Well we should perhaps consider why the birth

certificate was presented in the first place. It was done to put to rest

the rumours that B.O. was not in fact a U.S. citizen. Those offering the

certificate were not doing so to confirm or deny his T.O.B.

That his T.O.B. was on the certificate was just a bonus for astrologers

and I think we can be confident of its authenticity.

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

___

-

" Chandramohan S " <cmsiit

<jyotish-vidya >

Friday, June 13, 2008 3:44 PM

Re: Re: Barack Obama's horoscope

Hii

http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/3/BO_Birth_Certificate.jpg

this is the link.

how true is it?

looking forward to hear from you....

June 13, 2008

Dear Bhaskar,

I'm going to have to leave the computer for awhile, unfortunately. It's

past 4:00pm here now and I must make an effort to do what's needed in the

house before my husband gets home...

In the meantime perhaps other members can dig through their library for

characteristics of other lagnas.

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

___

-

" Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

<jyotish-vidya >

Friday, June 13, 2008 3:40 PM

Re: Barack Obama's horoscope

I still find her smart, beautiful and graceful

as per her age, and after reading what she writes,

no one can take her for granted. She gives the cute

figure of a responsible no-nonsense lady.

Hope Mrs.Wendy would not mind my lavish praise.

And I would never like to get on the wrong

side of the fence with her. Would prefer to

be in her good books always. She is really

respectable and lovely lady for me.

What about saying something about a Leo now.

We had some talks on Capricorns. My photo

too is there on in the shelf. I too need

Mrs.Wendy's good comments to hear. The bad

ones may be told to the spirits. Ha Ha.

Bhaskar.

June 13, 2008

Dear Mrs.Wendy,

Oh.Thats being unfair.

I needed special comments from Mrs.Wendy only.

Okay Mrs.Wendy, my request for you

to talk about the features of Leo, were just

a affectionate humour. You please need not take

any trouble or feel about it. I was just chiding

Mr.Ravindramaniji also affectionately,

that you got a special service from Mrs.Wendy,

and I need the same too. i was just being a school

boy in the classroom loking for the Class teachers

sweet glance.

Yes but what i mentiond about you, was certainly

serious. You would always be beautiful for me.

Period.

And please continue your household affairs without

any disturbance. take care, and

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek "

<jyotishvidya wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar,

>

> I'm going to have to leave the computer for awhile, unfortunately.

It's

> past 4:00pm here now and I must make an effort to do what's needed

in the

> house before my husband gets home...

>

> In the meantime perhaps other members can dig through their library

for

> characteristics of other lagnas.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> ___

>

> -

> " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Friday, June 13, 2008 3:40 PM

> Re: Barack Obama's horoscope

>

> I still find her smart, beautiful and graceful

> as per her age, and after reading what she writes,

> no one can take her for granted. She gives the cute

> figure of a responsible no-nonsense lady.

>

> Hope Mrs.Wendy would not mind my lavish praise.

>

> And I would never like to get on the wrong

> side of the fence with her. Would prefer to

> be in her good books always. She is really

> respectable and lovely lady for me.

>

> What about saying something about a Leo now.

> We had some talks on Capricorns. My photo

> too is there on in the shelf. I too need

> Mrs.Wendy's good comments to hear. The bad

> ones may be told to the spirits. Ha Ha.

>

> Bhaskar.

>

June 13, 2008

Dear Wendy,

there is a academic question here from Obama;s chart

we understand that places West of GMT have their Asc, longitudes behind

those of East of GMT

I think I have posted my data here on Albinos here

I am born a day later to Obama on the 5th

and for technical reasons the clock could be close to 15.30 Hrs apart in

time zone and yet his Moons deg is 1 deg ahead of mine any reason for this.

will post my data again here

5/8/61, 9.16 AM, MADRAS INDIA

i am not considering any other aspect here as I know ppl born in the same

hospital same time too will have different future depending on their Karma

balances in past lives and the families into which they r born also.

Best wishes

Prashantkumar

On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya

wrote:

> Dear Chandramohan,

>

> The birth certificate has already been uploaded to the groups files

> section. How true is it? Well we should perhaps consider why the birth

> certificate was presented in the first place. It was done to put to rest

> the rumours that B.O. was not in fact a U.S. citizen. Those offering the

> certificate were not doing so to confirm or deny his T.O.B.

>

> That his T.O.B. was on the certificate was just a bonus for astrologers

> and I think we can be confident of its authenticity.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com <http://jyotishvidya.com/>

> ___

>

> -

> " Chandramohan S " <cmsiit <cmsiit%40gmail.com>>

> <jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>>

> Friday, June 13, 2008 3:44 PM

> Re: Re: Barack Obama's horoscope

>

> Hii

> http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/3/BO_Birth_Certificate.jpg

> this is the link.

> how true is it?

> looking forward to hear from you....

>

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