Guest guest Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 Hii all the time I had found in some site was 1:06 pm thats is 13 :06 hours. that will make him libra lagna... with lord of 9th and 11th in 10th ... and 10th lord in 8th and sun with shadbala exceeding 213 % looking forward to hear from you all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 Dear Wendy, thanks for the info will work on this too.You have not given ur conclusion on the 19.11 data yet, unless I have missed it....! And for a moment if we accept Capricorn Asc also then the transites I said r even more sensitive as it involves the Natal 8th house and transit Satn is 6/8 to natal Satn ill placed Satn transiting over Natal rahu in 8th, aspecting Transit Mars and Sun in 10th house around polling time. this is recalling the transits at that time. have not worked on this yet.will there be some violence directed at him? by any Neo racial groups,,,, will have to work on this aspect also I am missing ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZINE its anual number used to give us all major transits , eclipses and country specific trends to super imposse the picture. this year I have yet to get the rashtriya panchang which also gives such tech info. will work on the data u have given me and get back asap. Best wishes Prashant Kumar On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya wrote: > Dear Prashant, > > //I am still using the available data and don't have his background info > to verify and write either// > > Background info is easily obtained with a quick internet search... > > * Born in Honolulu, Hawaii (4 Aug 1961) > * Father left when he was 2yrs old and parents divorced. > * Mother remarried and they moved to Indonesia (1 Jan 1967) > * At 10yrs old he returned to Honolulu to live with maternal > grandparents. > * After graduating high school (1 Jun 1979) he moved to Los Angeles. > * Enrols at Occidental College (1 Sep 1979) > * Transfers to Columbia University (1 Sep 1981) > * Father died in car crash (1982) > * Begins work at Business International Corp (1 Jul 1983) > * Travels to Europe for three weeks then Kenya for five weeks meeting > relatives for first time (summer 1988) > * Graduates from Harvard Law School (1 Jun 1991) > * Married Michelle (18 Oct 1992) > * Mother died of ovarian cancer (7 Nov 1995) > * Elected to Illinois State Senate (4 Nov 1996) > * First child female (1999) > * Second child female (2001) > * Re-elected to Illinois State Senate (4 Nov 2002) > * Publishes first book - Dreams from My Father (10 Aug 2004) > * Elected to U.S. Senate (2 Nov 2004) > * Publishes second book - The Audacity of Hope (17 Oct 2006) > > Perhaps you could compare the possible lagnas (I'm leaning towards > Capricorn, T.O.B. approx. 19:11) using the above timeline to confirm > events. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com <http://jyotishvidya.com/> > ___ > > - > " astro desk " <astro.prashantkumar<astro.prashantkumar%40gmail.com> > > > <jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>> > Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:02 PM > Re: Barack Obama 's horoscope Will He win? > > Dear Wendy, > > I am still using the available data and don't have his background info to > verify and write either > > but as u know I use raman's ayanamsa and here > in D9 i get Makara with Mars+Moon in it Mesha Navamsa lagna > M R bhatts works do suggest appearences to be taken from Navamsa position > of > chandra and lagna too. > fundamental principles of Astrology by M Ramakrishna Bhutt. MLBDS > publications. > > which can cover ur observations on capriconr features hopefully > > Transits wise i see he has to pass three important dates June 29 when > Mars > transits rahu, Sept 28 when Mars sdprvyd Natal Satn, Oct 6 when Mars > aspects Natal Guru > > He has 24 Bindhus in Simha-Leo and 3 for sani in it even the following > one > in Kanya-virgo is 25 and 0 for sani, NORMALLY IT GIVES unfavourable > results > with such a low points and 0 can threaten his financial and physical > entity > too. > > Jupt-Vnus runs from 3/3/08 to 5/11/10 > Vedha position wise both r favorable. > jup-vns-Moon 3/10/ to 23/12/08, where it is exalted, in D9, D10 it is in > 10th place can help him do well., > > Jupt/Guru is not a yoga karaka for Tarus Asc. > > Guru is in 9th in d1 with 9th lord, in 12th in D9, in 9th own sign in d10 > Guru is in Dun's star and Aspected by Sani a natural malefic., most > planets > r in Sun's star. > who is in the 12th to his own sign. > > there r v little chances he will last his full term health wise for the > said > reasons even if he wins > odds r v high on life and Jupt, Vns dasa, bukti are 6/8 to one another, > sukra is in 9th in d9, 6th in D10 > > all celebrety data is subject to speculation with risks attached, > whatever > happens on end result we must treat this as a excercie in discussion. My > analysis r always on ramans aynamsa so won't be afriad in defending it > for > the given data.its full impact will be seen till Satn enters Libra-risk > on > Obama's life exist in Leo, Virgo transit of Satn. > > Best wishes > > Prashant kumar > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 Dear Prashant, //thanks for the info will work on this too.You have not given ur conclusion on the 19.11 data yet, unless I have missed it....!// I just haven't been able to find the time, unfortunately. I have in the back of my mind to respond to Deepak regarding his exalted 1st and 10th lords and how this relates to the fact that, in spite of frequent job changes, he's invariably moved up the ladder (so to speak) with each new position... The problem for me is finding the time to put all else aside and just focus on his chart...proving difficult at the moment. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " astro desk " <astro.prashantkumar <jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, June 11, 2008 3:07 PM Re: Barack Obama's horoscope Dear Wendy, thanks for the info will work on this too.You have not given ur conclusion on the 19.11 data yet, unless I have missed it....! And for a moment if we accept Capricorn Asc also then the transites I said r even more sensitive as it involves the Natal 8th house and transit Satn is 6/8 to natal Satn ill placed Satn transiting over Natal rahu in 8th, aspecting Transit Mars and Sun in 10th house around polling time. this is recalling the transits at that time. have not worked on this yet.will there be some violence directed at him? by any Neo racial groups,,,, will have to work on this aspect also I am missing ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZINE its anual number used to give us all major transits , eclipses and country specific trends to super imposse the picture. this year I have yet to get the rashtriya panchang which also gives such tech info. will work on the data u have given me and get back asap. Best wishes Prashant Kumar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 Dear Chandra, What time zone have you apply? & nbsp; Thank you. --- On Wed, 6/11/08, Chandramohan S & lt;cmsiit & gt; wrote: Chandramohan S & lt;cmsiit & gt; Re: Barack Obama's horoscope jyotish-vidya Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 1:16 AM Hii all the time I had found in some site was 1:06 pm thats is 13 :06 hours. that will make him libra lagna... with lord of 9th and 11th in 10th ... and 10th lord in 8th and sun with shadbala exceeding 213 % looking forward to hear from you all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 Elango, 10 hrs +GMT lat 19d 32'37 " N Long 155d 55' 55 " W prashant On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:29 PM, ELIGIO MARIN <tio_eligio wrote: > Dear Chandra, What time zone have you apply? > & nbsp; > Thank you. > > --- On Wed, 6/11/08, Chandramohan S & lt;cmsiit<cmsiit%40gmail.com> & gt; > wrote: > > Chandramohan S & lt;cmsiit <cmsiit%40gmail.com> & gt; > Re: Barack Obama's horoscope > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40> > Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 1:16 AM > > Hii all > the time I had found in some site was 1:06 pm > thats is 13 :06 hours. > > that will make him libra lagna... > with lord of 9th and 11th in 10th ... > and 10th lord in 8th > and sun with shadbala exceeding 213 % > looking forward to hear from you all > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 Hii 10 hours west of GMT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 Hi. folks, you know, just find out that Commander McCain is also a libra lagna. & nbsp; Eligius --- On Wed, 6/11/08, astro desk & lt;astro.prashantkumar & gt; wrote: astro desk & lt;astro.prashantkumar & gt; Re: Barack Obama's horoscope jyotish-vidya Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 11:23 AM Elango, 10 hrs +GMT lat 19d 32'37 " N Long 155d 55' 55 " W prashant On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:29 PM, ELIGIO MARIN & lt;tio_eligio & gt; wrote: & gt; Dear Chandra, What time zone have you apply? & gt; & amp;nbsp; & gt; Thank you. & gt; & gt; --- On Wed, 6/11/08, Chandramohan S & amp;lt;cmsiit (AT) gmail (DOT) com & lt;cmsiit%40gmail. com & gt; & amp;gt; & gt; wrote: & gt; & gt; Chandramohan S & amp;lt;cmsiit (AT) gmail (DOT) com & lt;cmsiit%40gmail. com & gt; & amp;gt; & gt; Re: Barack Obama's horoscope & gt; jyotish-vidya & lt;jyotish-vidya% 40. com & gt; & gt; Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 1:16 AM & gt; & gt; Hii all & gt; the time I had found in some site was 1:06 pm & gt; thats is 13 :06 hours. & gt; & gt; that will make him libra lagna... & gt; with lord of 9th and 11th in 10th ... & gt; and 10th lord in 8th & gt; and sun with shadbala exceeding 213 % & gt; looking forward to hear from you all & gt; & gt; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 Hi Wendy and Everyone, I have been a little out of touch with the group. Sorry for that. I just came across this site which has posted the birth certificate of Barack Obama as given by his campaign. Thought it would be of interest to group members. All those interested could check it out at www.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert The lagna is Capricorn and current dasa is of Jupiter/ Moon. Both are very well placed in the chart. Best Wishes and God bless, Neena jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Prashant, > > //I am still using the available data and don't have his background info > to verify and write either// > > Background info is easily obtained with a quick internet search... > > * Born in Honolulu, Hawaii (4 Aug 1961) > * Father left when he was 2yrs old and parents divorced. > * Mother remarried and they moved to Indonesia (1 Jan 1967) > * At 10yrs old he returned to Honolulu to live with maternal > grandparents. > * After graduating high school (1 Jun 1979) he moved to Los Angeles. > * Enrols at Occidental College (1 Sep 1979) > * Transfers to Columbia University (1 Sep 1981) > * Father died in car crash (1982) > * Begins work at Business International Corp (1 Jul 1983) > * Travels to Europe for three weeks then Kenya for five weeks meeting > relatives for first time (summer 1988) > * Graduates from Harvard Law School (1 Jun 1991) > * Married Michelle (18 Oct 1992) > * Mother died of ovarian cancer (7 Nov 1995) > * Elected to Illinois State Senate (4 Nov 1996) > * First child female (1999) > * Second child female (2001) > * Re-elected to Illinois State Senate (4 Nov 2002) > * Publishes first book - Dreams from My Father (10 Aug 2004) > * Elected to U.S. Senate (2 Nov 2004) > * Publishes second book - The Audacity of Hope (17 Oct 2006) > > Perhaps you could compare the possible lagnas (I'm leaning towards > Capricorn, T.O.B. approx. 19:11) using the above timeline to confirm > events. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > > > > - > " astro desk " <astro.prashantkumar > <jyotish-vidya > > Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:02 PM > Re: Barack Obama 's horoscope Will He win? > > > Dear Wendy, > > I am still using the available data and don't have his background info to > verify and write either > > but as u know I use raman's ayanamsa and here > in D9 i get Makara with Mars+Moon in it Mesha Navamsa lagna > M R bhatts works do suggest appearences to be taken from Navamsa position > of > chandra and lagna too. > fundamental principles of Astrology by M Ramakrishna Bhutt. MLBDS > publications. > > which can cover ur observations on capriconr features hopefully > > Transits wise i see he has to pass three important dates June 29 when > Mars > transits rahu, Sept 28 when Mars sdprvyd Natal Satn, Oct 6 when Mars > aspects Natal Guru > > He has 24 Bindhus in Simha-Leo and 3 for sani in it even the following > one > in Kanya-virgo is 25 and 0 for sani, NORMALLY IT GIVES unfavourable > results > with such a low points and 0 can threaten his financial and physical > entity > too. > > Jupt-Vnus runs from 3/3/08 to 5/11/10 > Vedha position wise both r favorable. > jup-vns-Moon 3/10/ to 23/12/08, where it is exalted, in D9, D10 it is in > 10th place can help him do well., > > Jupt/Guru is not a yoga karaka for Tarus Asc. > > Guru is in 9th in d1 with 9th lord, in 12th in D9, in 9th own sign in d10 > Guru is in Dun's star and Aspected by Sani a natural malefic., most > planets > r in Sun's star. > who is in the 12th to his own sign. > > there r v little chances he will last his full term health wise for the > said > reasons even if he wins > odds r v high on life and Jupt, Vns dasa, bukti are 6/8 to one another, > sukra is in 9th in d9, 6th in D10 > > all celebrety data is subject to speculation with risks attached, > whatever > happens on end result we must treat this as a excercie in discussion. My > analysis r always on ramans aynamsa so won't be afriad in defending it > for > the given data.its full impact will be seen till Satn enters Libra- risk > on > Obama's life exist in Leo, Virgo transit of Satn. > > Best wishes > > Prashant kumar > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Hello neenako, I was wandering if we can compare info. to see were am wrong? & nbsp;I have him with ascendant in Libra at 24.10 degrees. Please help me to correct my information. & nbsp; Info as follows: & nbsp;8/4/1961, 13:06 hrs, Zone 10:00 HST Honolulu, Hi USA Longitude: 157W52 Latitude: & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; 21N18 & nbsp; & nbsp; Cur Per Ju/Ve/Me & nbsp; Your help will be appreciated & nbsp; Eligio & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & n\ bsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; --- On Thu, 6/12/08, neenako & lt;neenako & gt; wrote: neenako & lt;neenako & gt; Re: Barack Obama's horoscope jyotish-vidya Thursday, June 12, 2008, 11:52 PM Hi Wendy and Everyone, I have been a little out of touch with the group. Sorry for that. I just came across this site which has posted the birth certificate of Barack Obama as given by his campaign. Thought it would be of interest to group members. All those interested could check it out at www.barackobama. com/page/ invite/birthcert The lagna is Capricorn and current dasa is of Jupiter/ Moon. Both are very well placed in the chart. Best Wishes and God bless, Neena jyotish-vidya, " Wendy Vasicek " & lt;jyotishvidya@ ... & gt; wrote: & gt; & gt; Dear Prashant, & gt; & gt; //I am still using the available data and don't have his background info & gt; to verify and write either// & gt; & gt; Background info is easily obtained with a quick internet search... & gt; & gt; * Born in Honolulu, Hawaii (4 Aug 1961) & gt; * Father left when he was 2yrs old and parents divorced. & gt; * Mother remarried and they moved to Indonesia (1 Jan 1967) & gt; * At 10yrs old he returned to Honolulu to live with maternal & gt; grandparents. & gt; * After graduating high school (1 Jun 1979) he moved to Los Angeles. & gt; * Enrols at Occidental College (1 Sep 1979) & gt; * Transfers to Columbia University (1 Sep 1981) & gt; * Father died in car crash (1982) & gt; * Begins work at Business International Corp (1 Jul 1983) & gt; * Travels to Europe for three weeks then Kenya for five weeks meeting & gt; relatives for first time (summer 1988) & gt; * Graduates from Harvard Law School (1 Jun 1991) & gt; * Married Michelle (18 Oct 1992) & gt; * Mother died of ovarian cancer (7 Nov 1995) & gt; * Elected to Illinois State Senate (4 Nov 1996) & gt; * First child female (1999) & gt; * Second child female (2001) & gt; * Re-elected to Illinois State Senate (4 Nov 2002) & gt; * Publishes first book - Dreams from My Father (10 Aug 2004) & gt; * Elected to U.S. Senate (2 Nov 2004) & gt; * Publishes second book - The Audacity of Hope (17 Oct 2006) & gt; & gt; Perhaps you could compare the possible lagnas (I'm leaning towards & gt; Capricorn, T.O.B. approx. 19:11) using the above timeline to confirm & gt; events. & gt; & gt; Best Wishes, & gt; Mrs. Wendy & gt; http://JyotishVidya .com & gt; ____________ _________ _________ _______ & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; - & gt; " astro desk " & lt;astro.prashantkuma r & gt; & gt; & lt;jyotish-vidya & gt; & gt; Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:02 PM & gt; Re: Barack Obama 's horoscope Will He win? & gt; & gt; & gt; Dear Wendy, & gt; & gt; I am still using the available data and don't have his background info to & gt; verify and write either & gt; & gt; but as u know I use raman's ayanamsa and here & gt; in D9 i get Makara with Mars+Moon in it Mesha Navamsa lagna & gt; M R bhatts works do suggest appearences to be taken from Navamsa position & gt; of & gt; chandra and lagna too. & gt; fundamental principles of Astrology by M Ramakrishna Bhutt. MLBDS & gt; publications. & gt; & gt; which can cover ur observations on capriconr features hopefully & gt; & gt; Transits wise i see he has to pass three important dates June 29 when & gt; Mars & gt; transits rahu, Sept 28 when Mars sdprvyd Natal Satn, Oct 6 when Mars & gt; aspects Natal Guru & gt; & gt; He has 24 Bindhus in Simha-Leo and 3 for sani in it even the following & gt; one & gt; in Kanya-virgo is 25 and 0 for sani, NORMALLY IT GIVES unfavourable & gt; results & gt; with such a low points and 0 can threaten his financial and physical & gt; entity & gt; too. & gt; & gt; Jupt-Vnus runs from 3/3/08 to 5/11/10 & gt; Vedha position wise both r favorable. & gt; jup-vns-Moon 3/10/ to 23/12/08, where it is exalted, in D9, D10 it is in & gt; 10th place can help him do well., & gt; & gt; Jupt/Guru is not a yoga karaka for Tarus Asc. & gt; & gt; Guru is in 9th in d1 with 9th lord, in 12th in D9, in 9th own sign in d10 & gt; Guru is in Dun's star and Aspected by Sani a natural malefic., most & gt; planets & gt; r in Sun's star. & gt; who is in the 12th to his own sign. & gt; & gt; there r v little chances he will last his full term health wise for the & gt; said & gt; reasons even if he wins & gt; odds r v high on life and Jupt, Vns dasa, bukti are 6/8 to one another, & gt; sukra is in 9th in d9, 6th in D10 & gt; & gt; all celebrety data is subject to speculation with risks attached, & gt; whatever & gt; happens on end result we must treat this as a excercie in discussion. My & gt; analysis r always on ramans aynamsa so won't be afriad in defending it & gt; for & gt; the given data.its full impact will be seen till Satn enters Libra- risk & gt; on & gt; Obama's life exist in Leo, Virgo transit of Satn. & gt; & gt; Best wishes & gt; & gt; Prashant kumar & gt; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Dear Neena, Wow! That is fantastic! Absolutely restores my trust in my own intuition regarding a native's lagna. Quite apart from the physical appearance of Obama (long face) I had absolutely no reason to look at Capricorn other than my own intuition. Once I'd cast the chart, I knew it was him...this was definitely based on intuition rather than knowledge. I still haven't (as yet) managed to take a serious look at the chart to verify any events...hope to soon! I really am pleased that Capricorn has now been confirmed...it does bolster my confidence :-) BTW Neena, that link doesn't take me to the page you specified...can you check the URL again. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " neenako " <neenako <jyotish-vidya > Friday, June 13, 2008 12:52 PM Re: Barack Obama's horoscope Hi Wendy and Everyone, I have been a little out of touch with the group. Sorry for that. I just came across this site which has posted the birth certificate of Barack Obama as given by his campaign. Thought it would be of interest to group members. All those interested could check it out at www.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert The lagna is Capricorn and current dasa is of Jupiter/ Moon. Both are very well placed in the chart. Best Wishes and God bless, Neena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Dear Group, Of late, I notice in some of the messages from the Group, the expression " & nbsp " . What is the meaning of that? Can any body educate me on this point? Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. =========== jyotish-vidya , ELIGIO MARIN <tio_eligio wrote: > > Hello neenako, I was wandering if we can compare info. to see were am wrong? & nbsp;I have him with ascendant in Libra at 24.10 degrees. Please help me to correct my information. > & nbsp; > Info as follows: & nbsp;8/4/1961, 13:06 hrs, Zone 10:00 HST > Honolulu, Hi USA > Longitude: 157W52 > Latitude: & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; 21N18 & nbsp; & nbsp; Cur Per Ju/Ve/Me > & nbsp; > Your help will be appreciated > & nbsp; > Eligio > & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbs p; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; > > --- On Thu, 6/12/08, neenako neenako wrote: > > neenako neenako > Re: Barack Obama's horoscope > jyotish-vidya > Thursday, June 12, 2008, 11:52 PM > Hi Wendy and Everyone, > > I have been a little out of touch with the group. Sorry for that. > > I just came across this site which has posted the birth certificate > of Barack Obama as given by his campaign. Thought it would be of > interest to group members. All those interested could check it out at > > www.barackobama. com/page/ invite/birthcert > > The lagna is Capricorn and current dasa is of Jupiter/ Moon. Both > are very well placed in the chart. > > Best Wishes and God bless, > > Neena > jyotish-vidya, " Wendy Vasicek " > & lt;jyotishvidya@ ... & gt; wrote: > & gt; > & gt; Dear Prashant, > & gt; > & gt; //I am still using the available data and don't have his > background info > & gt; to verify and write either// > & gt; > & gt; Background info is easily obtained with a quick internet search... > & gt; > & gt; * Born in Honolulu, Hawaii (4 Aug 1961) > & gt; * Father left when he was 2yrs old and parents divorced. > & gt; * Mother remarried and they moved to Indonesia (1 Jan 1967) > & gt; * At 10yrs old he returned to Honolulu to live with maternal > & gt; grandparents. > & gt; * After graduating high school (1 Jun 1979) he moved to Los > Angeles. > & gt; * Enrols at Occidental College (1 Sep 1979) > & gt; * Transfers to Columbia University (1 Sep 1981) > & gt; * Father died in car crash (1982) > & gt; * Begins work at Business International Corp (1 Jul 1983) > & gt; * Travels to Europe for three weeks then Kenya for five weeks > meeting > & gt; relatives for first time (summer 1988) > & gt; * Graduates from Harvard Law School (1 Jun 1991) > & gt; * Married Michelle (18 Oct 1992) > & gt; * Mother died of ovarian cancer (7 Nov 1995) > & gt; * Elected to Illinois State Senate (4 Nov 1996) > & gt; * First child female (1999) > & gt; * Second child female (2001) > & gt; * Re-elected to Illinois State Senate (4 Nov 2002) > & gt; * Publishes first book - Dreams from My Father (10 Aug 2004) > & gt; * Elected to U.S. Senate (2 Nov 2004) > & gt; * Publishes second book - The Audacity of Hope (17 Oct 2006) > & gt; > & gt; Perhaps you could compare the possible lagnas (I'm leaning towards > & gt; Capricorn, T.O.B. approx. 19:11) using the above timeline to > confirm > & gt; events. > & gt; > & gt; Best Wishes, > & gt; Mrs. Wendy > & gt; http://JyotishVidya .com > & gt; ____________ _________ _________ _______ > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; - > & gt; " astro desk " & lt;astro.prashantkuma r & gt; > & gt; & lt;jyotish-vidya & gt; > & gt; Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:02 PM > & gt; Re: Barack Obama 's horoscope Will He win? > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; Dear Wendy, > & gt; > & gt; I am still using the available data and don't have his background > info to > & gt; verify and write either > & gt; > & gt; but as u know I use raman's ayanamsa and here > & gt; in D9 i get Makara with Mars+Moon in it Mesha Navamsa lagna > & gt; M R bhatts works do suggest appearences to be taken from Navamsa > position > & gt; of > & gt; chandra and lagna too. > & gt; fundamental principles of Astrology by M Ramakrishna Bhutt. MLBDS > & gt; publications. > & gt; > & gt; which can cover ur observations on capriconr features hopefully > & gt; > & gt; Transits wise i see he has to pass three important dates June 29 > when > & gt; Mars > & gt; transits rahu, Sept 28 when Mars sdprvyd Natal Satn, Oct 6 when > Mars > & gt; aspects Natal Guru > & gt; > & gt; He has 24 Bindhus in Simha-Leo and 3 for sani in it even the > following > & gt; one > & gt; in Kanya-virgo is 25 and 0 for sani, NORMALLY IT GIVES > unfavourable > & gt; results > & gt; with such a low points and 0 can threaten his financial and > physical > & gt; entity > & gt; too. > & gt; > & gt; Jupt-Vnus runs from 3/3/08 to 5/11/10 > & gt; Vedha position wise both r favorable. > & gt; jup-vns-Moon 3/10/ to 23/12/08, where it is exalted, in D9, D10 it > is in > & gt; 10th place can help him do well., > & gt; > & gt; Jupt/Guru is not a yoga karaka for Tarus Asc. > & gt; > & gt; Guru is in 9th in d1 with 9th lord, in 12th in D9, in 9th own sign > in d10 > & gt; Guru is in Dun's star and Aspected by Sani a natural malefic., most > & gt; planets > & gt; r in Sun's star. > & gt; who is in the 12th to his own sign. > & gt; > & gt; there r v little chances he will last his full term health wise > for the > & gt; said > & gt; reasons even if he wins > & gt; odds r v high on life and Jupt, Vns dasa, bukti are 6/8 to one > another, > & gt; sukra is in 9th in d9, 6th in D10 > & gt; > & gt; all celebrety data is subject to speculation with risks attached, > & gt; whatever > & gt; happens on end result we must treat this as a excercie in > discussion. My > & gt; analysis r always on ramans aynamsa so won't be afriad in > defending it > & gt; for > & gt; the given data.its full impact will be seen till Satn enters Libra- > risk > & gt; on > & gt; Obama's life exist in Leo, Virgo transit of Satn. > & gt; > & gt; Best wishes > & gt; > & gt; Prashant kumar > & gt; > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 I noticed every time am sending a mesage, may be is because my location is in Chicago USA & nbsp; --- On Fri, 6/13/08, ravindramani & lt;ravindramani & gt; wrote: ravindramani & lt;ravindramani & gt; Re: Barack Obama's horoscope jyotish-vidya Friday, June 13, 2008, 12:16 AM Dear Group, Of late, I notice in some of the messages from the Group, the expression " & amp;nbsp " . What is the meaning of that? Can any body educate me on this point? Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. =========== jyotish-vidya, ELIGIO MARIN & lt;tio_eligio@ ... & gt; wrote: & gt; & gt; Hello neenako, I was wandering if we can compare info. to see were am wrong? & amp;nbsp; I have him with ascendant in Libra at 24.10 degrees. Please help me to correct my information. & gt; & amp;nbsp; & gt; Info as follows: & amp;nbsp; 8/4/1961, 13:06 hrs, Zone 10:00 HST & gt; Honolulu, Hi USA & gt; Longitude: 157W52 & gt; Latitude: & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; 21N18 & amp;nbsp; & amp; nbsp; Cur Per Ju/Ve/Me & gt; & amp;nbsp; & gt; Your help will be appreciated & gt; & amp;nbsp; & gt; Eligio & gt; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbs p; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; & gt; & gt; --- On Thu, 6/12/08, neenako neenako wrote: & gt; & gt; neenako neenako & gt; Re: Barack Obama's horoscope & gt; jyotish-vidya & gt; Thursday, June 12, 2008, 11:52 PM & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Hi Wendy and Everyone, & gt; & gt; I have been a little out of touch with the group. Sorry for that. & gt; & gt; I just came across this site which has posted the birth certificate & gt; of Barack Obama as given by his campaign. Thought it would be of & gt; interest to group members. All those interested could check it out at & gt; & gt; www.barackobama. com/page/ invite/birthcert & gt; & gt; The lagna is Capricorn and current dasa is of Jupiter/ Moon. Both & gt; are very well placed in the chart. & gt; & gt; Best Wishes and God bless, & gt; & gt; Neena & gt; jyotish-vidya, " Wendy Vasicek " & gt; & amp;lt;jyotishvidya@ ... & amp;gt; wrote: & gt; & amp;gt; & gt; & amp;gt; Dear Prashant, & gt; & amp;gt; & gt; & amp;gt; //I am still using the available data and don't have his & gt; background info & gt; & amp;gt; to verify and write either// & gt; & amp;gt; & gt; & amp;gt; Background info is easily obtained with a quick internet search... & gt; & amp;gt; & gt; & amp;gt; * Born in Honolulu, Hawaii (4 Aug 1961) & gt; & amp;gt; * Father left when he was 2yrs old and parents divorced. & gt; & amp;gt; * Mother remarried and they moved to Indonesia (1 Jan 1967) & gt; & amp;gt; * At 10yrs old he returned to Honolulu to live with maternal & gt; & amp;gt; grandparents. & gt; & amp;gt; * After graduating high school (1 Jun 1979) he moved to Los & gt; Angeles. & gt; & amp;gt; * Enrols at Occidental College (1 Sep 1979) & gt; & amp;gt; * Transfers to Columbia University (1 Sep 1981) & gt; & amp;gt; * Father died in car crash (1982) & gt; & amp;gt; * Begins work at Business International Corp (1 Jul 1983) & gt; & amp;gt; * Travels to Europe for three weeks then Kenya for five weeks & gt; meeting & gt; & amp;gt; relatives for first time (summer 1988) & gt; & amp;gt; * Graduates from Harvard Law School (1 Jun 1991) & gt; & amp;gt; * Married Michelle (18 Oct 1992) & gt; & amp;gt; * Mother died of ovarian cancer (7 Nov 1995) & gt; & amp;gt; * Elected to Illinois State Senate (4 Nov 1996) & gt; & amp;gt; * First child female (1999) & gt; & amp;gt; * Second child female (2001) & gt; & amp;gt; * Re-elected to Illinois State Senate (4 Nov 2002) & gt; & amp;gt; * Publishes first book - Dreams from My Father (10 Aug 2004) & gt; & amp;gt; * Elected to U.S. Senate (2 Nov 2004) & gt; & amp;gt; * Publishes second book - The Audacity of Hope (17 Oct 2006) & gt; & amp;gt; & gt; & amp;gt; Perhaps you could compare the possible lagnas (I'm leaning towards & gt; & amp;gt; Capricorn, T.O.B. approx. 19:11) using the above timeline to & gt; confirm & gt; & amp;gt; events. & gt; & amp;gt; & gt; & amp;gt; Best Wishes, & gt; & amp;gt; Mrs. Wendy & gt; & amp;gt; http://JyotishVidya .com & gt; & amp;gt; ____________ _________ _________ _______ & gt; & amp;gt; & gt; & amp;gt; & gt; & amp;gt; & gt; & amp;gt; - & gt; & amp;gt; " astro desk " & amp;lt;astro.prashantk uma r & amp;gt; & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;lt;jyotish- vidya & amp;gt; & gt; & amp;gt; Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:02 PM & gt; & amp;gt; Re: Barack Obama 's horoscope Will He win? & gt; & amp;gt; & gt; & amp;gt; & gt; & amp;gt; Dear Wendy, & gt; & amp;gt; & gt; & amp;gt; I am still using the available data and don't have his background & gt; info to & gt; & amp;gt; verify and write either & gt; & amp;gt; & gt; & amp;gt; but as u know I use raman's ayanamsa and here & gt; & amp;gt; in D9 i get Makara with Mars+Moon in it Mesha Navamsa lagna & gt; & amp;gt; M R bhatts works do suggest appearences to be taken from Navamsa & gt; position & gt; & amp;gt; of & gt; & amp;gt; chandra and lagna too. & gt; & amp;gt; fundamental principles of Astrology by M Ramakrishna Bhutt. MLBDS & gt; & amp;gt; publications. & gt; & amp;gt; & gt; & amp;gt; which can cover ur observations on capriconr features hopefully & gt; & amp;gt; & gt; & amp;gt; Transits wise i see he has to pass three important dates June 29 & gt; when & gt; & amp;gt; Mars & gt; & amp;gt; transits rahu, Sept 28 when Mars sdprvyd Natal Satn, Oct 6 when & gt; Mars & gt; & amp;gt; aspects Natal Guru & gt; & amp;gt; & gt; & amp;gt; He has 24 Bindhus in Simha-Leo and 3 for sani in it even the & gt; following & gt; & amp;gt; one & gt; & amp;gt; in Kanya-virgo is 25 and 0 for sani, NORMALLY IT GIVES & gt; unfavourable & gt; & amp;gt; results & gt; & amp;gt; with such a low points and 0 can threaten his financial and & gt; physical & gt; & amp;gt; entity & gt; & amp;gt; too. & gt; & amp;gt; & gt; & amp;gt; Jupt-Vnus runs from 3/3/08 to 5/11/10 & gt; & amp;gt; Vedha position wise both r favorable. & gt; & amp;gt; jup-vns-Moon 3/10/ to 23/12/08, where it is exalted, in D9, D10 it & gt; is in & gt; & amp;gt; 10th place can help him do well., & gt; & amp;gt; & gt; & amp;gt; Jupt/Guru is not a yoga karaka for Tarus Asc. & gt; & amp;gt; & gt; & amp;gt; Guru is in 9th in d1 with 9th lord, in 12th in D9, in 9th own sign & gt; in d10 & gt; & amp;gt; Guru is in Dun's star and Aspected by Sani a natural malefic., most & gt; & amp;gt; planets & gt; & amp;gt; r in Sun's star. & gt; & amp;gt; who is in the 12th to his own sign. & gt; & amp;gt; & gt; & amp;gt; there r v little chances he will last his full term health wise & gt; for the & gt; & amp;gt; said & gt; & amp;gt; reasons even if he wins & gt; & amp;gt; odds r v high on life and Jupt, Vns dasa, bukti are 6/8 to one & gt; another, & gt; & amp;gt; sukra is in 9th in d9, 6th in D10 & gt; & amp;gt; & gt; & amp;gt; all celebrety data is subject to speculation with risks attached, & gt; & amp;gt; whatever & gt; & amp;gt; happens on end result we must treat this as a excercie in & gt; discussion. My & gt; & amp;gt; analysis r always on ramans aynamsa so won't be afriad in & gt; defending it & gt; & amp;gt; for & gt; & amp;gt; the given data.its full impact will be seen till Satn enters Libra- & gt; risk & gt; & amp;gt; on & gt; & amp;gt; Obama's life exist in Leo, Virgo transit of Satn. & gt; & amp;gt; & gt; & amp;gt; Best wishes & gt; & amp;gt; & gt; & amp;gt; Prashant kumar & gt; & amp;gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 PS: How it came about was; I was looking at Vic's website after he first put up on the group and observed that he too, like many Capricorns, tends to have a longish face. I thought then of Obama and what had struck me most about him was his rather longish face. I just converted the time I had to reflect Capricorn and really haven't looked much more into the chart for verification...hope to soon! BTW if anyone's interested, Vic has been busy building a new website...not finished yet so I hope he doesn't mind too much if I give you the link. http://www.vedicastrologer.net/ __________ Dear Neena, Wow! That is fantastic! Absolutely restores my trust in my own intuition regarding a native's lagna. Quite apart from the physical appearance of Obama (long face) I had absolutely no reason to look at Capricorn other than my own intuition. Once I'd cast the chart, I knew it was him...this was definitely based on intuition rather than knowledge. I still haven't (as yet) managed to take a serious look at the chart to verify any events...hope to soon! I really am pleased that Capricorn has now been confirmed...it does bolster my confidence :-) BTW Neena, that link doesn't take me to the page you specified...can you check the URL again. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " neenako " <neenako <jyotish-vidya > Friday, June 13, 2008 12:52 PM Re: Barack Obama's horoscope Hi Wendy and Everyone, I have been a little out of touch with the group. Sorry for that. I just came across this site which has posted the birth certificate of Barack Obama as given by his campaign. Thought it would be of interest to group members. All those interested could check it out at www.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert The lagna is Capricorn and current dasa is of Jupiter/ Moon. Both are very well placed in the chart. Best Wishes and God bless, Neena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Dear Mrs. Wendy, How do you categorise my face ? Longish, Oval or Circle, with respect to my Moon is in Capricorn? :-))) My photograph is in the Photos section of the Group. What is your yardstics for this? My boss is on leave. I am relatively free today. LOL. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. ==================================================== jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > PS: How it came about was; I was looking at Vic's website after he first > put up on the group and observed that he too, like many Capricorns, tends > to have a longish face. I thought then of Obama and what had struck me > most about him was his rather longish face. > > I just converted the time I had to reflect Capricorn and really haven't > looked much more into the chart for verification...hope to soon! > > BTW if anyone's interested, Vic has been busy building a new > website...not finished yet so I hope he doesn't mind too much if I give > you the link. http://www.vedicastrologer.net/ > __________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Dear Ravindramani, Now you've got me :-) The thing is that Capricorns quite often have a longish face and/or heavy jaw, due obviously to the fact that Saturn, the long lean planet, owns both 1st and 2nd bhavas. Other lagnas are characterised (generally) by other features. It's said that Sagittarius natives have a well proportioned and well-developed body. They are generally tall with a large forehead, bushy eyebrows, graceful look, fair complexion (as per race of course) and handsome figure. Naturally planets influencing lagna will modify one's appearance accordingly! PS: I've added an earlier photo (of me) that shows what I mean by the longish face characteristic of many Capricorns...I'm the one holding the cup of tea (mouth a bit puckered as I'd obviously just taken a sip when the picture was taken but I think you can still see what I mean about the long face). My Sister (Fay) beside me is the one that passed away with breast cancer a couple of years ago. You can access the photo here: http://ph.jyotish-vidya/photos/browse/c1b4 PPS: Perhaps, time permitting, we can dig into our libraries and compare the physical characteristics of the twelve lagnas :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " ravindramani " <ravindramani <jyotish-vidya > Friday, June 13, 2008 1:54 PM Re: Barack Obama's horoscope Dear Mrs. Wendy, How do you categorise my face ? Longish, Oval or Circle, with respect to my Moon is in Capricorn? :-))) My photograph is in the Photos section of the Group. What is your yardstics for this? My boss is on leave. I am relatively free today. LOL. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. ==================================================== jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > PS: How it came about was; I was looking at Vic's website after he first > put up on the group and observed that he too, like many Capricorns, tends > to have a longish face. I thought then of Obama and what had struck me > most about him was his rather longish face. > > I just converted the time I had to reflect Capricorn and really haven't > looked much more into the chart for verification...hope to soon! > > BTW if anyone's interested, Vic has been busy building a new > website...not finished yet so I hope he doesn't mind too much if I give > you the link. http://www.vedicastrologer.net/ > __________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 PS: If you look again at the photos you will see that (proportionately) your forehead is more prominent, whereas my long jaw is more prominent. _________________________________ Dear Ravindramani, Now you've got me :-) The thing is that Capricorns quite often have a longish face and/or heavy jaw, due obviously to the fact that Saturn, the long lean planet, owns both 1st and 2nd bhavas. Other lagnas are characterised (generally) by other features. It's said that Sagittarius natives have a well proportioned and well-developed body. They are generally tall with a large forehead, bushy eyebrows, graceful look, fair complexion (as per race of course) and handsome figure. Naturally planets influencing lagna will modify one's appearance accordingly! PS: I've added an earlier photo (of me) that shows what I mean by the longish face characteristic of many Capricorns...I'm the one holding the cup of tea (mouth a bit puckered as I'd obviously just taken a sip when the picture was taken but I think you can still see what I mean about the long face). My Sister (Fay) beside me is the one that passed away with breast cancer a couple of years ago. You can access the photo here: http://ph.jyotish-vidya/photos/browse/c1b4 PPS: Perhaps, time permitting, we can dig into our libraries and compare the physical characteristics of the twelve lagnas :-) Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Dear Mrs. Wendy, I agree with you. You should also agree with me that you were so smart and beautiful in 1984, but with firm look and seriousness in your face. In d-9, the second house receives the aspect of Mars, Venus and saturn placed there. Sun is in lagna. In natal chart the second house receives the aspect of Sun and Venus, this grouping is aspected by Saturn who rules your lagna and second house of face. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani PS: Thanks for refreshing the basics. ================================================================== jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > PS: If you look again at the photos you will see that (proportionately) > your forehead is more prominent, whereas my long jaw is more prominent. > _________________________________ > > Dear Ravindramani, > > Now you've got me :-) > > The thing is that Capricorns quite often have a longish face and/or heavy > jaw, due obviously to the fact that Saturn, the long lean planet, owns > both 1st and 2nd bhavas. Other lagnas are characterised (generally) by > other features. > > It's said that Sagittarius natives have a well proportioned and > well-developed body. They are generally tall with a large forehead, bushy > eyebrows, graceful look, fair complexion (as per race of course) and > handsome figure. > > Naturally planets influencing lagna will modify one's appearance > accordingly! > > PS: I've added an earlier photo (of me) that shows what I mean by the > longish face characteristic of many Capricorns...I'm the one holding the > cup of tea (mouth a bit puckered as I'd obviously just taken a sip when > the picture was taken but I think you can still see what I mean about the > long face). My Sister (Fay) beside me is the one that passed away with > breast cancer a couple of years ago. > > You can access the photo here: > http://ph.jyotish-vidya/photos/browse/c1b4 > > PPS: Perhaps, time permitting, we can dig into our libraries and compare > the physical characteristics of the twelve lagnas :-) > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Hii Where is Obama's brith certificate? if possible do send me the link? looking forward to hear you alll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 I still find her smart, beautiful and graceful as per her age, and after reading what she writes, no one can take her for granted. She gives the cute figure of a responsible no-nonsense lady. Hope Mrs.Wendy would not mind my lavish praise. And I would never like to get on the wrong side of the fence with her. Would prefer to be in her good books always. She is really respectable and lovely lady for me. What about saying something about a Leo now. We had some talks on Capricorns. My photo too is there on in the shelf. I too need Mrs.Wendy's good comments to hear. The bad ones may be told to the spirits. Ha Ha. Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , " ravindramani " <ravindramani wrote: > > Dear Mrs. Wendy, > > I agree with you. > > You should also agree with me that you were so smart and beautiful > in 1984, but with firm look and seriousness in your face. > > In d-9, the second house receives the aspect of Mars, Venus and > saturn placed there. Sun is in lagna. > > In natal chart the second house receives the aspect of Sun and > Venus, this grouping is aspected by Saturn who rules your lagna and > second house of face. > > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani > > PS: Thanks for refreshing the basics. > ================================================================== > > jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " > <jyotishvidya@> wrote: > > > > PS: If you look again at the photos you will see that > (proportionately) > > your forehead is more prominent, whereas my long jaw is more > prominent. > > _________________________________ > > > > Dear Ravindramani, > > > > Now you've got me :-) > > > > The thing is that Capricorns quite often have a longish face > and/or heavy > > jaw, due obviously to the fact that Saturn, the long lean planet, > owns > > both 1st and 2nd bhavas. Other lagnas are characterised > (generally) by > > other features. > > > > It's said that Sagittarius natives have a well proportioned and > > well-developed body. They are generally tall with a large > forehead, bushy > > eyebrows, graceful look, fair complexion (as per race of course) > and > > handsome figure. > > > > Naturally planets influencing lagna will modify one's appearance > > accordingly! > > > > PS: I've added an earlier photo (of me) that shows what I mean by > the > > longish face characteristic of many Capricorns...I'm the one > holding the > > cup of tea (mouth a bit puckered as I'd obviously just taken a sip > when > > the picture was taken but I think you can still see what I mean > about the > > long face). My Sister (Fay) beside me is the one that passed away > with > > breast cancer a couple of years ago. > > > > You can access the photo here: > > http://ph.jyotish-vidya/photos/browse/c1b4 > > > > PPS: Perhaps, time permitting, we can dig into our libraries and > compare > > the physical characteristics of the twelve lagnas :-) > > > > Best Wishes, > > Mrs. Wendy > > http://JyotishVidya.com > > ___ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Hii http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/3/BO_Birth_Certificate.jpg this is the link. how true is it? looking forward to hear from you.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Dear Ravindramani, //You should also agree with me that you were so smart and beautiful in 1984,// Oh my goodness! You really have made this old lady's day :-)) //but with firm look and seriousness in your face.// I think I was listening intently to what Fay was saying at the time; but yes I do agree I'm inclined to be firm and serious most of the time. I might add a little here about how (other) influences can modify the appearance (at any given time). In the photo (with hat) I was suffering full-blown diabetes. It hadn't yet been diagnosed so I wasn't on any treatment. I'd put on a lot of weight and of course my bloated face masked the normal facial features to a large extent. Note Jupiter aspecting lagna whilst combust Venus aspects 2nd...both Venus and Jupiter are associated with diabetes. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " ravindramani " <ravindramani <jyotish-vidya > Friday, June 13, 2008 3:30 PM Re: Barack Obama's horoscope Dear Mrs. Wendy, I agree with you. You should also agree with me that you were so smart and beautiful in 1984, but with firm look and seriousness in your face. In d-9, the second house receives the aspect of Mars, Venus and saturn placed there. Sun is in lagna. In natal chart the second house receives the aspect of Sun and Venus, this grouping is aspected by Saturn who rules your lagna and second house of face. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani PS: Thanks for refreshing the basics. ================================================================== jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > PS: If you look again at the photos you will see that (proportionately) > your forehead is more prominent, whereas my long jaw is more prominent. > _________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Dear Chandramohan, The birth certificate has already been uploaded to the groups files section. How true is it? Well we should perhaps consider why the birth certificate was presented in the first place. It was done to put to rest the rumours that B.O. was not in fact a U.S. citizen. Those offering the certificate were not doing so to confirm or deny his T.O.B. That his T.O.B. was on the certificate was just a bonus for astrologers and I think we can be confident of its authenticity. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Chandramohan S " <cmsiit <jyotish-vidya > Friday, June 13, 2008 3:44 PM Re: Re: Barack Obama's horoscope Hii http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/3/BO_Birth_Certificate.jpg this is the link. how true is it? looking forward to hear from you.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Dear Bhaskar, I'm going to have to leave the computer for awhile, unfortunately. It's past 4:00pm here now and I must make an effort to do what's needed in the house before my husband gets home... In the meantime perhaps other members can dig through their library for characteristics of other lagnas. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish <jyotish-vidya > Friday, June 13, 2008 3:40 PM Re: Barack Obama's horoscope I still find her smart, beautiful and graceful as per her age, and after reading what she writes, no one can take her for granted. She gives the cute figure of a responsible no-nonsense lady. Hope Mrs.Wendy would not mind my lavish praise. And I would never like to get on the wrong side of the fence with her. Would prefer to be in her good books always. She is really respectable and lovely lady for me. What about saying something about a Leo now. We had some talks on Capricorns. My photo too is there on in the shelf. I too need Mrs.Wendy's good comments to hear. The bad ones may be told to the spirits. Ha Ha. Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Dear Mrs.Wendy, Oh.Thats being unfair. I needed special comments from Mrs.Wendy only. Okay Mrs.Wendy, my request for you to talk about the features of Leo, were just a affectionate humour. You please need not take any trouble or feel about it. I was just chiding Mr.Ravindramaniji also affectionately, that you got a special service from Mrs.Wendy, and I need the same too. i was just being a school boy in the classroom loking for the Class teachers sweet glance. Yes but what i mentiond about you, was certainly serious. You would always be beautiful for me. Period. And please continue your household affairs without any disturbance. take care, and best wishes, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar, > > I'm going to have to leave the computer for awhile, unfortunately. It's > past 4:00pm here now and I must make an effort to do what's needed in the > house before my husband gets home... > > In the meantime perhaps other members can dig through their library for > characteristics of other lagnas. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ___ > > > - > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish > <jyotish-vidya > > Friday, June 13, 2008 3:40 PM > Re: Barack Obama's horoscope > > > I still find her smart, beautiful and graceful > as per her age, and after reading what she writes, > no one can take her for granted. She gives the cute > figure of a responsible no-nonsense lady. > > Hope Mrs.Wendy would not mind my lavish praise. > > And I would never like to get on the wrong > side of the fence with her. Would prefer to > be in her good books always. She is really > respectable and lovely lady for me. > > What about saying something about a Leo now. > We had some talks on Capricorns. My photo > too is there on in the shelf. I too need > Mrs.Wendy's good comments to hear. The bad > ones may be told to the spirits. Ha Ha. > > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Dear Wendy, there is a academic question here from Obama;s chart we understand that places West of GMT have their Asc, longitudes behind those of East of GMT I think I have posted my data here on Albinos here I am born a day later to Obama on the 5th and for technical reasons the clock could be close to 15.30 Hrs apart in time zone and yet his Moons deg is 1 deg ahead of mine any reason for this. will post my data again here 5/8/61, 9.16 AM, MADRAS INDIA i am not considering any other aspect here as I know ppl born in the same hospital same time too will have different future depending on their Karma balances in past lives and the families into which they r born also. Best wishes Prashantkumar On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya wrote: > Dear Chandramohan, > > The birth certificate has already been uploaded to the groups files > section. How true is it? Well we should perhaps consider why the birth > certificate was presented in the first place. It was done to put to rest > the rumours that B.O. was not in fact a U.S. citizen. Those offering the > certificate were not doing so to confirm or deny his T.O.B. > > That his T.O.B. was on the certificate was just a bonus for astrologers > and I think we can be confident of its authenticity. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com <http://jyotishvidya.com/> > ___ > > - > " Chandramohan S " <cmsiit <cmsiit%40gmail.com>> > <jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>> > Friday, June 13, 2008 3:44 PM > Re: Re: Barack Obama's horoscope > > Hii > http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/3/BO_Birth_Certificate.jpg > this is the link. > how true is it? > looking forward to hear from you.... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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