Guest guest Report post Posted June 10, 2008 2Dear Members, Well there is enough evidence in our scriptures to say a child's horoscope can be read early but obvious care must be taken in delivering any profound statement. from what I have been taught no reading must be done till its Jataka karmans are done, that is its naming ceremoney is completed as its existence with a name and family order is proclaimed with diva sakshi and public at large who also bless the occasion and the child if there is any sensitive situation for the new born a suitable alert is given without shocking the parents say a Jala ganda, agni ganda pramada-risk injury etc are hinted so that there is enough attention in preventing any accident that their karma can save them from [this will fall in Adhrida karma ] but in cases of Dhrida karma not much can be done as Parikshit;s or Dasaratha's case cursed to die lonely without his sons around him by Sravana's parents. Siri Vijendra Saraswathi the Pontiff of Kanchi Sankara mutt when he was a child less than 5t yrs with his parents were on a visit to Tirumala hills [lord Venketeswara's darshan] on the way the bus they were travelling had slipped its course and hit the side walls of the hill and the bus was precariously hanging in the air with just the back wheels on the ground and the rest in the air towards a ravine. help did come and were saved someone in the group did sense a Mahat Jataka must be in the bus to have blessed all of them with life and took the data of all the passengers and this child was identified as the blessed one who the high and might will salute and and millions will flock to see and be blessed by him he became a Sankarachary by age 11 when there were 2 other seniors living normally the latest is considered the defacto head of the Mutt. the senior most chandrashekar saraswathi who died yrs later was very well respected all over the world I quoted this case as we see sometime many ppl die in a terrible accident as there r people who r cursed to die with a lot of people together, so if we r in such evil group our life energy can also undergo a change, if such a weak slot is there in our life at that moment. both r possible in general but what our karma is will be decided which group we r in on a given moment. we an merely indicate the trend at times the event happens to perfection the credit is surely the subject as guided by the works of ur ancient rishies whose path we have to follow with minimum modifications to our times without tinkering the spirit, essence of it, we just represent its light in a v small way and shine it on peoples whose dark time we can help illuminate and there will be a few in each ones life time of course depending on our Karma. Best wishes Prashant kumar On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:16 PM, Vic D <vicdicara wrote: > Dear Rajeev, > > In BPHS, Sri Parashar states that reading charts to people under 20ish > is different. Care must be taken in certain matters, he explicitly > states health and longevity, but by extension apply your intelligence > and extend the statement to many other matters. I reason that this is > because (A) all planetary influences do not come into effect yet, and > (B) there is too much uncertainty in early life which is not > ascribable to previous karma. > > On the other hand... > > When is the usual time, however, that a newborns chart is read. I > believe it is quite early. Take Sri Krishna and his brother Balarama, > for example. Gargamuni was there within a day or two explaining their > horoscopes to Yasoda and Nanda. > > Lets say you see a 70 year longevity in a newborns chart. You still > need to be aware that anything can happen unexpectedly due to bhootas, > witches, prachetas, etc. and other strangeness. So you can't say - > " This child will live to be 70 " then the mother sighs in relief and > stops being so careful, then the child dies of an accident. You have > to advise extreme precaution through the initial 6 years and a very > watchful eye through the next 10. As long as they don't let any > accidents happen from unforseeable influences, then the child can > expect to live to see 70 years. > > - Vic > > > On Jun 10, 2008, at 10:20 AM, EagleEye Trader wrote: > > > Dear Ravindramani > > But the chart will remain the same even after 12 years or 50 years > > for that matter.!! > > " Better we may not discuss this chart, until and unless, the > > examination of a chart (if the native is below 12 years of age) is > > absolutely essential and necessary. Classics is of this view. > > " > > I read that --- The above is true when talking about longitivity, > > since life till 12-18 may take abrupt turns depending on past karma > > which kundli may not show clearly and astro predictions would look > > wrong sometimes. > > But the above is again puzzling.. since kundli is supposed to show > > all such things which are expected to happen.. > > anyway.. > > If possible, your reply would be appreciated. > > Regards > > Rajeev > > > > > > > > ravindramani <ravindramani <ravindramani%40gmail.com>> > > jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40> > > Tuesday, 10 June, 2008 6:16:13 PM > > Re: Challenge: Gender > > > > > > Dear Rajeev, > > > > Better we may not discuss this chart, until and unless, the > > examination of a chart (if the native is below 12 years of age) is > > absolutely essential and necessary. Classics is of this view. > > > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. > > > > jyotish-vidya, EagleEye Trader > > <eagleeyetrades@ ...> wrote: > >> > >> Dear Ravindramani > >> I was looking at the chart of a new born. > >> Leo Ascendant. > >> Jupiter in 5th. > >> Su, Me, Ve in 10th. > >> Ke, Ma in 12th > >> Ra in 6th. > >> Sa, Moon in 1st. > >> Some good points are > >> Ve and Ju in self houses. > >> and benefifs in 10th with sun. > >> But i was concerned about Sa and Moon in first. > >> Generally Sa in 1st house is MaranKarak. > >> Also Saturn within 1degree of Moon has a strong effect on mind. > >> Also in leo lagna saturn would tend to give negative effects on > > both body and mind. > >> specifically, what could be the probable effects when saturn has > > proximity to moon and also sits in 1st house. > >> Regards > >> Rajeev > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Go to > http://in.promos./groups/bestof/ > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 10, 2008 Dear Rajeev, You are absolutely right. The chart will remain the same till the person remains in this earth. For that matter, even after he ceases to be here in this earth, the chart will remain the same. The effects of the action initiated by the person during a particular time will manifest during his stay here or even he ceases to be. It is immaterial. There are no broken segments in Time. It is a continuous process. So is your dashas. There are no broken segments in dashas too. A child born with a certain balance of dasha and becomes deceased at a particular moment, with a closing balance. The account is not closed. The account will be reopened at an appropriate moment, with the right balance of dasha where it ended previously. The promises are frozen and kept in the Zip format. At an appropriate time, with the change of time, it gets unzipped. Yesterday, the Moon was in the 8th from my radical Moon. Saturn has been in 8th from my radical Moon for quite some time. I am enjoying the sub period of Moon (Moon is my 8th lord) in the major period of Saturn. I was little disturbed by this transit due to some misunderstanding of a communication. In the late night, Moon moved away from my 8th. I am feeling collective now. My natal chart is same during these particular two moments. The change is only in time not in the chart. I know there would be some disturbance. But what could be the reason or the action and who would initiate that action. You need number of charts to know this. Seers can only do this by their " Gyan Drishti " . I am an ordinary puny mortal. The same method could be applied in a newborn's chart. We need number of charts to do that. An event in a person's life governed by a number of " moments " (karmic instructions) they are interlinked like in the operating software of a computer. They are written in different executable files and are in different cabinets and coexist in different folders. But a simple click of a mouse, the result comes to my computer. I learnt calculating the longevity by eleven mathematical methods. The methods were not devised by me. Out of which, two methods put me under the category of Alpayu. I already crossed that category. Don't think the methods are wrong but it is insufficient. There is some slip. Where and why, on the part of whom, it is beyond my comprehension. I have both my parent's charts. Some events in my life are so visible when collectively examining the charts. At times we don't have all the required charts. In respect of a new born, the parent's chart is a must. Even they are available, I don't examine a child's chart in detail. You have to take a stand, as Krishna (one of the members of our group) recently wrote in one of his messages. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. jyotish-vidya , EagleEye Trader <eagleeyetrades wrote: > > Dear Ravindramani > But the chart will remain the same even after 12 years or 50 years for that matter.!! > " Better we may not discuss this chart, until and unless, the > examination of a chart (if the native is below 12 years of age) is > absolutely essential and necessary. Classics is of this view. > " > I read that --- The above is true when talking about longitivity, since life till 12-18 may take abrupt turns depending on past karma which kundli may not show clearly and astro predictions would look wrong sometimes. > But the above is again puzzling.. since kundli is supposed to show all such things which are expected to happen.. > anyway.. > If possible, your reply would be appreciated. > Regards > Rajeev Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 10, 2008 Dear Ravindramani and All, My stand on this issue is in respect to the innocence of childhood. It's a precious time for both parents and children which passes all too quickly. That innocence should not be clouded by proclamations of karmas yet to manifest in adulthood. I am so thankful that I was not burdened with the knowledge of the difficulties ahead for my precious innocent children. Now they're adults and responsible for their own actions I can be candid about their karma and offer advice to help them navigate through difficult periods. If a child is facing serious health issues the parents should be advised according to the karma manifesting through the parents horoscope. The innocent child cannot perform the necessary remedies...this falls to the parents in the initial stages...until the child becomes responsible for his own actions. If a child is destined to grow up to be a man among men, a leader, a light to the world, this will be made known soon enough. But for the most part children grow up to face the same ups and downs in life as we all do...let not the innocence of childhood be disturbed by this...that precious innocence fades quickly enough. This is my opinion! Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ___ - " ravindramani " <ravindramani <jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, June 11, 2008 11:14 AM Re: Challenge: Gender Dear Rajeev, You are absolutely right. The chart will remain the same till the person remains in this earth. For that matter, even after he ceases to be here in this earth, the chart will remain the same. The effects of the action initiated by the person during a particular time will manifest during his stay here or even he ceases to be. It is immaterial. There are no broken segments in Time. It is a continuous process. So is your dashas. There are no broken segments in dashas too. A child born with a certain balance of dasha and becomes deceased at a particular moment, with a closing balance. The account is not closed. The account will be reopened at an appropriate moment, with the right balance of dasha where it ended previously. The promises are frozen and kept in the Zip format. At an appropriate time, with the change of time, it gets unzipped. Yesterday, the Moon was in the 8th from my radical Moon. Saturn has been in 8th from my radical Moon for quite some time. I am enjoying the sub period of Moon (Moon is my 8th lord) in the major period of Saturn. I was little disturbed by this transit due to some misunderstanding of a communication. In the late night, Moon moved away from my 8th. I am feeling collective now. My natal chart is same during these particular two moments. The change is only in time not in the chart. I know there would be some disturbance. But what could be the reason or the action and who would initiate that action. You need number of charts to know this. Seers can only do this by their " Gyan Drishti " . I am an ordinary puny mortal. The same method could be applied in a newborn's chart. We need number of charts to do that. An event in a person's life governed by a number of " moments " (karmic instructions) they are interlinked like in the operating software of a computer. They are written in different executable files and are in different cabinets and coexist in different folders. But a simple click of a mouse, the result comes to my computer. I learnt calculating the longevity by eleven mathematical methods. The methods were not devised by me. Out of which, two methods put me under the category of Alpayu. I already crossed that category. Don't think the methods are wrong but it is insufficient. There is some slip. Where and why, on the part of whom, it is beyond my comprehension. I have both my parent's charts. Some events in my life are so visible when collectively examining the charts. At times we don't have all the required charts. In respect of a new born, the parent's chart is a must. Even they are available, I don't examine a child's chart in detail. You have to take a stand, as Krishna (one of the members of our group) recently wrote in one of his messages. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 11, 2008 Dear Wendy / Ravindramani I understand and appreciate what you have said about caring and love etc. But somehow I have a very strong notion that first 0-15 years of life is what makes a man. The core habits would tend to form as soon as 1-2 years.!! Parents should know what positive or negative tendencies his child will tend to take up and try to inculcate things which can atleast counteract the possible future negative tendencies. I can go on and write a big email, but the core idea is that, a parent will be able to do much better parenting if he/she knows more about his kids inherent nature (which may not be visible yet) For example with someone saturn in 1st house, the parents would tend to push the child to be more discplined and planned in all this activity and take better care of his body.. If astrology has any issue, it is to plan the future and no better time than right after birth. If the above is done when the person is 20 years old,, the case is dead and closed and astro is left to deal with old age issues. 1 ounce of effort with kids is equal to 1000 ounces of effort with grown up. Regards Rajeev Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya jyotish-vidya Wednesday, 11 June, 2008 9:42:18 AM Re: Re: Challenge: Gender Dear Ravindramani and All, My stand on this issue is in respect to the innocence of childhood. It's a precious time for both parents and children which passes all too quickly. That innocence should not be clouded by proclamations of karmas yet to manifest in adulthood. I am so thankful that I was not burdened with the knowledge of the difficulties ahead for my precious innocent children. Now they're adults and responsible for their own actions I can be candid about their karma and offer advice to help them navigate through difficult periods. If a child is facing serious health issues the parents should be advised according to the karma manifesting through the parents horoscope. The innocent child cannot perform the necessary remedies...this falls to the parents in the initial stages...until the child becomes responsible for his own actions. If a child is destined to grow up to be a man among men, a leader, a light to the world, this will be made known soon enough. But for the most part children grow up to face the same ups and downs in life as we all do...let not the innocence of childhood be disturbed by this...that precious innocence fades quickly enough.. This is my opinion! Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya .com ____________ _________ _________ _______ - " ravindramani " <ravindramani@ gmail.com> <jyotish-vidya> Wednesday, June 11, 2008 11:14 AM Re: Challenge: Gender Dear Rajeev, You are absolutely right. The chart will remain the same till the person remains in this earth. For that matter, even after he ceases to be here in this earth, the chart will remain the same. The effects of the action initiated by the person during a particular time will manifest during his stay here or even he ceases to be. It is immaterial. There are no broken segments in Time. It is a continuous process. So is your dashas. There are no broken segments in dashas too. A child born with a certain balance of dasha and becomes deceased at a particular moment, with a closing balance. The account is not closed. The account will be reopened at an appropriate moment, with the right balance of dasha where it ended previously. The promises are frozen and kept in the Zip format. At an appropriate time, with the change of time, it gets unzipped. Yesterday, the Moon was in the 8th from my radical Moon. Saturn has been in 8th from my radical Moon for quite some time. I am enjoying the sub period of Moon (Moon is my 8th lord) in the major period of Saturn. I was little disturbed by this transit due to some misunderstanding of a communication. In the late night, Moon moved away from my 8th. I am feeling collective now. My natal chart is same during these particular two moments. The change is only in time not in the chart. I know there would be some disturbance. But what could be the reason or the action and who would initiate that action. You need number of charts to know this. Seers can only do this by their " Gyan Drishti " . I am an ordinary puny mortal. The same method could be applied in a newborn's chart. We need number of charts to do that. An event in a person's life governed by a number of " moments " (karmic instructions) they are interlinked like in the operating software of a computer. They are written in different executable files and are in different cabinets and coexist in different folders. But a simple click of a mouse, the result comes to my computer. I learnt calculating the longevity by eleven mathematical methods. The methods were not devised by me. Out of which, two methods put me under the category of Alpayu. I already crossed that category. Don't think the methods are wrong but it is insufficient. There is some slip. Where and why, on the part of whom, it is beyond my comprehension. I have both my parent's charts. Some events in my life are so visible when collectively examining the charts. At times we don't have all the required charts. In respect of a new born, the parent's chart is a must. Even they are available, I don't examine a child's chart in detail. You have to take a stand, as Krishna (one of the members of our group) recently wrote in one of his messages. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Go to http://in.promos./groups/bestof/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 11, 2008 Dear All, As most have opined, it is not taboo to give predictions on the chart of child, as long as the astrologer does it with a sense of responsibility. Yes, the astrologer could guide the parents to take certain steps in the upbringing of the child which would prove a blessing for the child. I was reading B. Suryanarain Rao's commentary on Varahamihira's 'Brihat Jataka'. These are his first few lines in the chapter titled 'Balarishta': The importance of a chapter which deals with combinations indicating early death can hardly be overrated. In fact all events in life can only assume importance in relation to their being enacted during life career of a man. There can be no painting without a canvas and results are worth detailing which do not happen to an individual when he lives. This chapter has been advanced by the author with a view to find the longevity of the infant... " When I read this paragraph, I understand that both the original author and the commentator are of the opinion that the longevity of the infant should be assessed first before giving out any detailed prediction. I do understand that some sages are of the opinion that longevity of an individual should not be assessed before the age of 12. Regards, Krishna EagleEye Trader <eagleeyetrades wrote: Dear Wendy / Ravindramani I understand and appreciate what you have said about caring and love etc. But somehow I have a very strong notion that first 0-15 years of life is what makes a man. The core habits would tend to form as soon as 1-2 years.!! Parents should know what positive or negative tendencies his child will tend to take up and try to inculcate things which can atleast counteract the possible future negative tendencies. I can go on and write a big email, but the core idea is that, a parent will be able to do much better parenting if he/she knows more about his kids inherent nature (which may not be visible yet) For example with someone saturn in 1st house, the parents would tend to push the child to be more discplined and planned in all this activity and take better care of his body.. If astrology has any issue, it is to plan the future and no better time than right after birth. If the above is done when the person is 20 years old,, the case is dead and closed and astro is left to deal with old age issues. 1 ounce of effort with kids is equal to 1000 ounces of effort with grown up. Regards Rajeev Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya jyotish-vidya Wednesday, 11 June, 2008 9:42:18 AM Re: Re: Challenge: Gender Dear Ravindramani and All, My stand on this issue is in respect to the innocence of childhood. It's a precious time for both parents and children which passes all too quickly. That innocence should not be clouded by proclamations of karmas yet to manifest in adulthood. I am so thankful that I was not burdened with the knowledge of the difficulties ahead for my precious innocent children. Now they're adults and responsible for their own actions I can be candid about their karma and offer advice to help them navigate through difficult periods. If a child is facing serious health issues the parents should be advised according to the karma manifesting through the parents horoscope. The innocent child cannot perform the necessary remedies...this falls to the parents in the initial stages...until the child becomes responsible for his own actions. If a child is destined to grow up to be a man among men, a leader, a light to the world, this will be made known soon enough. But for the most part children grow up to face the same ups and downs in life as we all do...let not the innocence of childhood be disturbed by this...that precious innocence fades quickly enough.. This is my opinion! Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya .com ____________ _________ _________ _______ - " ravindramani " <ravindramani@ gmail.com> <jyotish-vidya> Wednesday, June 11, 2008 11:14 AM Re: Challenge: Gender Dear Rajeev, You are absolutely right. The chart will remain the same till the person remains in this earth. For that matter, even after he ceases to be here in this earth, the chart will remain the same. The effects of the action initiated by the person during a particular time will manifest during his stay here or even he ceases to be. It is immaterial. There are no broken segments in Time. It is a continuous process. So is your dashas. There are no broken segments in dashas too. A child born with a certain balance of dasha and becomes deceased at a particular moment, with a closing balance. The account is not closed. The account will be reopened at an appropriate moment, with the right balance of dasha where it ended previously. The promises are frozen and kept in the Zip format. At an appropriate time, with the change of time, it gets unzipped. Yesterday, the Moon was in the 8th from my radical Moon. Saturn has been in 8th from my radical Moon for quite some time. I am enjoying the sub period of Moon (Moon is my 8th lord) in the major period of Saturn. I was little disturbed by this transit due to some misunderstanding of a communication. In the late night, Moon moved away from my 8th. I am feeling collective now. My natal chart is same during these particular two moments. The change is only in time not in the chart. I know there would be some disturbance. But what could be the reason or the action and who would initiate that action. You need number of charts to know this. Seers can only do this by their " Gyan Drishti " . I am an ordinary puny mortal. The same method could be applied in a newborn's chart. We need number of charts to do that. An event in a person's life governed by a number of " moments " (karmic instructions) they are interlinked like in the operating software of a computer. They are written in different executable files and are in different cabinets and coexist in different folders. But a simple click of a mouse, the result comes to my computer. I learnt calculating the longevity by eleven mathematical methods. The methods were not devised by me. Out of which, two methods put me under the category of Alpayu. I already crossed that category. Don't think the methods are wrong but it is insufficient. There is some slip. Where and why, on the part of whom, it is beyond my comprehension. I have both my parent's charts. Some events in my life are so visible when collectively examining the charts. At times we don't have all the required charts. In respect of a new born, the parent's chart is a must. Even they are available, I don't examine a child's chart in detail. You have to take a stand, as Krishna (one of the members of our group) recently wrote in one of his messages. Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Go to http://in.promos./groups/bestof/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 11, 2008 Dear all, I am seeing, and continue to see people who come to me after half their Life is over, with their horoscopes in hand, to tell me what remedial actions have to be done, to make their lives better, or their misfortunes less dreary. Same with couples who after their initial 1 year of happiness of new found love in marriage, is over,come along for their charts to be checked. These people have never had their Horoscopes opened for more than 1-2 times ever in their 30-40 years of Life. At such times I remember those parents of these people, and so much wish, that had they shown these charts to the right people at the right time, these natives could have been able to pacify their malefic planets to some extent with time on their hands, and also take advantage of the specialness areas of their charts, which provide scope for them to shine. Now one may argue that these people were not destined to show their charts earlier. Now this argument has no ends, because we cannot blame destiny, if the food is served and we do not pick up the morsels to eat. When I was taught Balarishta Yoga by my teacher many years ago,it was clearly mentioned that the chart of a child is first seen to determine the longevity, and if thats fine, then only one may move to talk about the other areas, if one is asked. Additionally We were told that if the child dies during the first 4 years of its birth, he dies due to sins of his mother, 4-8 years would be the sins of his father, and if death occurs between 8-12 years, then it it because of his own sins ( Karma ). I personally do not study much, if a childs Kundli is presented to me, but just the salient prominent striking features. But I am very happy if a parent of a 12 year old and above comes to me for asking just remedies, without any apparent problems, because this means that they are interested and serious, another important point is that from this age onwards the child can easily start doing the smaller version of the mantras required, day to day japa of 1-5 malas and other donations prescribed, alongwith visit to temples. This would be the age ( If not earlier)for strong sanskaar to be developed. The age of maturity in a child of course defers in todays context, depending on the family , environments, country, caste, religion, locality and strata of society one is born in. The above are my views, and may not be agreeable by all. Thats okay. regards, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , EagleEye Trader <eagleeyetrades wrote: > > Dear Wendy / Ravindramani > I understand and appreciate what you have said about caring and love etc. > > But somehow I have a very strong notion that first 0-15 years of life is what makes a man. > The core habits would tend to form as soon as 1-2 years.!! > Parents should know what positive or negative tendencies his child will tend to take up and > try to inculcate things which can atleast counteract the possible future negative tendencies. > I can go on and write a big email, but the core idea is that, a parent will be able to do much better parenting > if he/she knows more about his kids inherent nature (which may not be visible yet) > For example with someone saturn in 1st house, the parents would tend to push the child to be more discplined > and planned in all this activity and take better care of his body.. > If astrology has any issue, it is to plan the future and no better time than right after birth. > If the above is done when the person is 20 years old,, the case is dead and closed and astro is left to deal with old age issues. > 1 ounce of effort with kids is equal to 1000 ounces of effort with grown up. > Regards > Rajeev > > > Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya > jyotish-vidya > Wednesday, 11 June, 2008 9:42:18 AM > Re: Re: Challenge: Gender > > > Dear Ravindramani and All, > > My stand on this issue is in respect to the innocence of childhood. It's > a precious time for both parents and children which passes all too > quickly. That innocence should not be clouded by proclamations of karmas > yet to manifest in adulthood. I am so thankful that I was not burdened > with the knowledge of the difficulties ahead for my precious innocent > children. Now they're adults and responsible for their own actions I can > be candid about their karma and offer advice to help them navigate > through difficult periods. > > If a child is facing serious health issues the parents should be advised > according to the karma manifesting through the parents horoscope. The > innocent child cannot perform the necessary remedies...this falls to the > parents in the initial stages...until the child becomes responsible for > his own actions. If a child is destined to grow up to be a man among men, > a leader, a light to the world, this will be made known soon enough. But > for the most part children grow up to face the same ups and downs in life > as we all do...let not the innocence of childhood be disturbed by > this...that precious innocence fades quickly enough.. > > This is my opinion! > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya .com > ____________ _________ _________ _______ > > - > " ravindramani " <ravindramani@ gmail.com> > <jyotish-vidya> > Wednesday, June 11, 2008 11:14 AM > Re: Challenge: Gender > > Dear Rajeev, > > You are absolutely right. The chart will remain the same till the > person remains in this earth. For that matter, even after he ceases > to be here in this earth, the chart will remain the same. The > effects of the action initiated by the person during a particular > time will manifest during his stay here or even he ceases to be. It > is immaterial. There are no broken segments in Time. It is a > continuous process. So is your dashas. There are no broken segments > in dashas too. A child born with a certain balance of dasha and > becomes deceased at a particular moment, with a closing balance. The > account is not closed. The account will be reopened at an > appropriate moment, with the right balance of dasha where it ended > previously. The promises are frozen and kept in the Zip format. At > an appropriate time, with the change of time, it gets unzipped. > > Yesterday, the Moon was in the 8th from my radical Moon. Saturn has > been in 8th from my radical Moon for quite some time. I am enjoying > the sub period of Moon (Moon is my 8th lord) in the major period of > Saturn. I was little disturbed by this transit due to some > misunderstanding of a communication. In the late night, Moon moved > away from my 8th. I am feeling collective now. My natal chart is > same during these particular two moments. The change is only in time > not in the chart. I know there would be some disturbance. But what > could be the reason or the action and who would initiate that > action. You need number of charts to know this. Seers can only do > this by their " Gyan Drishti " . I am an ordinary puny mortal. > > The same method could be applied in a newborn's chart. We need > number of charts to do that. An event in a person's life governed by > a number of " moments " (karmic instructions) they are interlinked like > in the operating software of a computer. They are written in > different executable files and are in different cabinets and coexist > in different folders. But a simple click of a mouse, the result > comes to my computer. > > I learnt calculating the longevity by eleven mathematical methods. > The methods were not devised by me. Out of which, two methods put me > under the category of Alpayu. I already crossed that category. > Don't think the methods are wrong but it is insufficient. There is > some slip. Where and why, on the part of whom, it is beyond my > comprehension. I have both my parent's charts. Some events in my > life are so visible when collectively examining the charts. At > times we don't have all the required charts. In respect of a new > born, the parent's chart is a must. Even they are available, I don't > examine a child's chart in detail. You have to take a stand, as > Krishna (one of the members of our group) recently wrote in one of > his messages. > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. > > > > > Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Go to http://in.promos./groups/bestof/ > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 11, 2008 Dear Vic Care must be taken in every part and stage of life, in every talk, in every breadth.This Mrityu lok is all about care & care and more care, else decay and only decay comes. Eating is necessary for life, but only eating and sleeping can give all possible diseases in world.! I am sure same applies for Jyotish. In fact at end of BPHS it is written that donot reveal this science to unfit people based on various criteria. What ever is written in various emails for kids and effect of wrong astrology statements effects on kids, same is applicable to weak adults also, who may look larger in size but may be very kiddish. Every case, wether kid, child, adult or on death bed, has to be handled with utmost care...!! and words have to be selected with care, else a lof of un wanted things can happen.. Having said this.. I hope Mr. Ravindramani can give a reply without much hesitation. Regards Rajeev Vic D <vicdicara jyotish-vidya Tuesday, 10 June, 2008 11:16:53 PM Re: Re: Challenge: Gender Dear Rajeev, In BPHS, Sri Parashar states that reading charts to people under 20ish is different. Care must be taken in certain matters, he explicitly states health and longevity, but by extension apply your intelligence and extend the statement to many other matters. I reason that this is because (A) all planetary influences do not come into effect yet, and (B) there is too much uncertainty in early life which is not ascribable to previous karma. On the other hand... When is the usual time, however, that a newborns chart is read. I believe it is quite early. Take Sri Krishna and his brother Balarama, for example. Gargamuni was there within a day or two explaining their horoscopes to Yasoda and Nanda. Lets say you see a 70 year longevity in a newborns chart. You still need to be aware that anything can happen unexpectedly due to bhootas, witches, prachetas, etc. and other strangeness. So you can't say - " This child will live to be 70 " then the mother sighs in relief and stops being so careful, then the child dies of an accident. You have to advise extreme precaution through the initial 6 years and a very watchful eye through the next 10. As long as they don't let any accidents happen from unforseeable influences, then the child can expect to live to see 70 years. - Vic On Jun 10, 2008, at 10:20 AM, EagleEye Trader wrote: > Dear Ravindramani > But the chart will remain the same even after 12 years or 50 years > for that matter.!! > " Better we may not discuss this chart, until and unless, the > examination of a chart (if the native is below 12 years of age) is > absolutely essential and necessary. Classics is of this view. > " > I read that --- The above is true when talking about longitivity, > since life till 12-18 may take abrupt turns depending on past karma > which kundli may not show clearly and astro predictions would look > wrong sometimes. > But the above is again puzzling.. since kundli is supposed to show > all such things which are expected to happen.. > anyway.. > If possible, your reply would be appreciated. > Regards > Rajeev > > > > ravindramani <ravindramani@ gmail.com> > jyotish-vidya > Tuesday, 10 June, 2008 6:16:13 PM > Re: Challenge: Gender > > > Dear Rajeev, > > Better we may not discuss this chart, until and unless, the > examination of a chart (if the native is below 12 years of age) is > absolutely essential and necessary. Classics is of this view. > > Regards, C.S. Ravindramani. > > jyotish-vidya, EagleEye Trader > <eagleeyetrades@ ...> wrote: >> >> Dear Ravindramani >> I was looking at the chart of a new born. >> Leo Ascendant. >> Jupiter in 5th. >> Su, Me, Ve in 10th. >> Ke, Ma in 12th >> Ra in 6th. >> Sa, Moon in 1st. >> Some good points are >> Ve and Ju in self houses. >> and benefifs in 10th with sun. >> But i was concerned about Sa and Moon in first. >> Generally Sa in 1st house is MaranKarak. >> Also Saturn within 1degree of Moon has a strong effect on mind. >> Also in leo lagna saturn would tend to give negative effects on > both body and mind. >> specifically, what could be the probable effects when saturn has > proximity to moon and also sits in 1st house. >> Regards >> Rajeev >> >> >> > > > > > Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Go to http://in.promos. / groups/bestofyah oo/ > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
