predicting marriage - a live case

October 15, 2009

OM JUMTAKA !Pranams,Ms.Neelamguptaji, Udaya gatika -Lagna verification system concurs with Sagittarius Lagna [Horoscope set to Lahiri Ayanamsa & 365.25 Solar days].Native would get married in his Ketu AD in Ketu MD from January 2010 to June 2010 - Reasons Ketu in Chatur kendr,attained subhamsa and good vargha phalam.His early marriage gets postponed in Mercury[7th lord] Dasa because of its close proximity [bEdham] to Guru.Regards/Dhananjayan--- On Thu, 15/10/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 predicting marriage - a live case"" Thursday, 15 October, 2009, 7:27 PM

Dear All,We've had enough of theory. Let us do a live exercise. I am giving below a data with some events (for confirming the lagna). Kindly predict marriage for this person. He is still unmarried.

June 19, 1977/18:57 hrs/Ratlam, M.PEvents:One elder sister (5 years elder to him), one younger brother (4 years younger to him).Studied Hotel Management

Father is an engineer by profession and mother is a lecturer.Got a good professional break and moved to Mumbai in December 2004Moved to a foreign country for doing an MBA in August 31, 2007

Please use whatever method you want, but give your reasons. Since the event is yet to happen, the exercise would help us to know how everyone would read a future event and whether there are some common readings. Let me also tell you that the lagna is on sandhi. Events are given. Please feel free to use your methods of correction, your favourite ayanamsha, divisions, divisional charts, etc.

Hope all learned members would participate. RegardsNeelam

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October 16, 2009

Dear Neelamji,

In my view marriage is not promised in this chart,in Ketu Dasha period he will

divert in spiritual side.

Thanks & regards,

M.S.Bohra

, Dhananjayan Brahma

<abhanaya wrote:

>

> OM JUMTAKA !

> Pranams,

> Ms.Neelamguptaji,

> Udaya gatika -Lagna verification system concurs with Sagittarius Lagna

[Horoscope set to Lahiri Ayanamsa & 365.25 Solar days].

> Native would get married in his Ketu AD in Ketu MD from January 2010 to June

2010 - Reasons Ketu in Chatur kendr,attained subhamsa and good vargha phalam.

> His early marriage gets postponed in Mercury[7th lord] Dasa because of its

close proximity [bEdham] to Guru.

> Regards/Dhananjayan

>

> --- On Thu, 15/10/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> neelam gupta <neelamgupta07

> predicting marriage - a live case

> " "

> Thursday, 15 October, 2009, 7:27 PM

>

> Dear All,

>

> We've had enough of theory. Let us do a live exercise. I am giving below a

data with some events (for confirming the lagna). Kindly predict marriage for

this person. He is still unmarried.

>

> June 19, 1977/18:57 hrs/Ratlam, M.P

>

> Events:

> One elder sister (5 years elder to him), one younger brother (4 years younger

to him).Studied Hotel Management

> Father is an engineer by profession and mother is a lecturer.Got a good

professional break and moved to Mumbai in December 2004Moved to a foreign

country for doing an MBA in August 31, 2007

>

> Please use whatever method you want, but give your reasons. Since the event is

yet to happen, the exercise would help us to know how everyone would read a

future event and whether there are some common readings.

> Let me also tell you that the lagna is on sandhi. Events are given. Please

feel free to use your methods of correction, your favourite ayanamsha,

divisions, divisional charts, etc.

>

> Hope all learned members would participate.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

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October 16, 2009

Dear Mrmbers,

The chart in question is very intrigue. The 7th house is having Sun a cruel planet which is more than 4 degrees. The 7th house lord is in 6th which is negative but it is with lagnesh Jupiter and we know that Mercury is a planet which takes up the properties of the planet with which it is. The 8th house is Occupied by Moon and Saturn and here Moon is Swagrahi. Hence we see that the 7th house is having Shubha Kartari. Thus marriage is not ruled out but will be a happy one too.

I have over the years made one simple rule to predict marriage by finding the point of marriage. When this point is triggered by the transit Jupiter or Saturn marriage takes place.

The marriage Point is calculated by taking the sum total of Lagnesh, Saptamesh and Labhesh. The logic is lagnesh means self. Saptamesh is spouse and Labhesh is the Sukhsthan of 8th house.

In this particular case the point falls in Simha Rashi at about 3 degrees. The transit Jupiter willenter Kumbha rashi on 20th Dec 2009. It shall then triger this point hence the marriage shall take place betwen Jan to May 2010.

D D Trivedi --- On Fri, 16/10/09, Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya wrote:

Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanayaRe: predicting marriage - a live case Date: Friday, 16 October, 2009, 2:41 AM

OM JUMTAKA !Pranams,Ms.Neelamguptaji, Udaya gatika -Lagna verification system concurs with Sagittarius Lagna [Horoscope set to Lahiri Ayanamsa & 365.25 Solar days].Native would get married in his Ketu AD in Ketu MD from January 2010 to June 2010 - Reasons Ketu in Chatur kendr,attained subhamsa and good vargha phalam.His early marriage gets postponed in Mercury[7th

lord] Dasa because of its close proximity [bEdham] to Guru.Regards/Dhananjayan--- On Thu, 15/10/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote:

neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>[ancient_indian_ astrology] predicting marriage - a live case"ancient_indian_ astrology" <ancient_indian_ astrology>Thursday, 15 October, 2009, 7:27 PM

Dear All,We've had enough of theory. Let us do a live exercise. I am giving below a data with some events (for confirming the lagna). Kindly predict marriage for this person. He is still unmarried.June 19, 1977/18:57 hrs/Ratlam, M.PEvents:

One elder sister (5 years elder to him), one younger brother (4 years younger to him).

Studied Hotel Management

Father is an engineer by profession and mother is a lecturer.

Got a good professional break and moved to Mumbai in December 2004

Moved to a foreign country for doing an MBA in August 31, 2007Please use whatever method you want, but give your reasons. Since the event is yet to happen, the exercise would help us to know how everyone would read a future event and whether there are some common readings. Let me also tell you that the lagna is on sandhi. Events are given. Please feel free to use your methods of correction, your favourite ayanamsha, divisions, divisional charts, etc. Hope all learned members would participate. RegardsNeelam

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October 16, 2009

Dear Neelam ji,this is interesting excercise for sure.We have to find out the corectness of lagna first.Hence it's no ordinery task Neelam ji.But let me also try.Also sure that i am not a learned member but a sincere learner.I may have to settle for scorpio lagna for the following reasons.1.Marriage is already delayed i think due to sat's asp on 7th lord.2. Sat is also influencing moon in upapada.7t L from mo is also sat with moon.Sat in fact aspg both lagna and 7thL. 3.Rahu in 11th in a female sign asp by jup(one elder sister)3rd lord in mutual asp with karaka mars from a male sign (younger brother).4.5th H in RK axis and 5th L in a venusian sign with karaka for knowledge can give hotel management.Sidhamsa 5thL ven in 6th house copetition with many planets in a fixed sign as well..5.Ven in 7th house of position giver in her MT and Rahu in 11th is conducive to hotel management in D10(my own observation/experience)coming back to the question of marriage it is doubtful if he gets married at all,but cant be ruled out since jup with another benefic in 7th aspg lagna as well asLL with7thL!!...Sat with mo in upapada,ketu in jup's sign in 5th and also debven in 7th in D9 marriage is unlikely but with the suport of dasas it can hapen but with an element of surprise(8thL mer with jup in 7th in Rasi and 8th L of D9 deb with presence of Rahu in 7th!!)7thL of Rasi ven also karaka for marriage deb in 7th with Rahu the surpriser.It is also to be noted that ven is weak in shadbala.though in her own nakshatra.2ndL from upapada in 12th from UP and 8th from lagna is no good for marriage.there are good inclinations for spiritual life.AK jup and DK sun are in 2/12 positions.(cant be good for marriage)Regards,gopi. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear All,> > Please understand that the aim of this exercise is to share our techniques> for predicting marriage.> We are not looking for a prediction for the native, but for a technique> through which a successful prediction was made.> > I request that all participants share their respective methods for timing of> marriage.> I would also request Goel ji and Pathi ji to share their experience with us> show us how to read this chart for marriage.> > Regards> Neelam> > > > 2009/10/15 utkal.panigrahi utkal.panigrahi > >> >> > I think, marriage talks are already going on, it will take place when Guru> > will move to Kumbha, most probably, going to happen by/before Mid Jan2010.> >> > regards,> > Utkal.> >> >> > <%40>,> > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear All,> > >> > > We've had enough of theory. Let us do a live exercise. I am giving below> > a> > > data with some events (for confirming the lagna). Kindly predict marriage> > > for this person. He is still unmarried.> > >> > > *June 19, 1977/18:57 hrs/Ratlam, M.P*> > >> > > Events:> > >> > > - One elder sister (5 years elder to him), one younger brother (4 years> > > younger to him).> > > - Studied Hotel Management> > > - Father is an engineer by profession and mother is a lecturer.> > > - Got a good professional break and moved to Mumbai in December 2004> > > - Moved to a foreign country for doing an MBA in August 31, 2007> > >> > >> > > Please use whatever method you want, but give your reasons. Since the> > event> > > is yet to happen, the exercise would help us to know how everyone would> > read> > > a future event and whether there are some common readings.> > > Let me also tell you that the lagna is on sandhi. Events are given.> > Please> > > feel free to use your methods of correction, your favourite ayanamsha,> > > divisions, divisional charts, etc.> > >> > > Hope all learned members would participate.> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> >> > > >>

October 16, 2009

Respected Neelam Ji,

Thank you for providing us this LIVE excises I think this would be the next

logical step for AIA learning members in general and some of the Astro stalwarts

in particular to do these kind of studies here. I am sure this will help

immensely:-).

I am giving my below analysis with my basic understanding of Astrology so far.

Natal Chart

June 19, 1977

Time: 6:57:00 pm

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 75 E 04' 00 " , 23 N 19' 00 "

Ratlam, India

Tithi: Sukla Tritiya (Ma) (40.67% left)

Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su)

Nakshatra: Pushyami (Sa) (82.10% left)

Yoga: Vyaghata (Ve) (97.59% left)

I am using Lahiri Ayansma and TRUE Nodes I go with Sagittarius Lagna.

For the question and timing of marriage, I would like to see from Lagna, Moon

and from Venus

From Lagna 7H has Sun and 7L is Mercury 8H has Sat and Moon

From Moon 7H and 8H has no planets but 7L Sat in Lagna

From Venus 7H has Gulika 7L is Venus itself and is associated with Mars

These simple indications show there's a delay in marriage (here I am not talking

about QUALITY of the Marriage)

Now come to the Vim Dasa

Vimsottari Dasa:

It is….

Merc MD: 1993-01-24 (1:02:13 am) - 2010-01-24 (9:44:02 am)

Sat AD: 2007-05-16 (11:38:10 am) - 2010-01-24 (9:44:02 am)

Jup PD: 2009-09-17 (8:29:30 pm) - 2010-01-24 (9:44:02 am)

Native is running 7L Mahadasa and Anterdasa of 2L Saturn and Prityantara of LL

Jupiter

Present transit of PD lord Sat is in 3rd from Moon and 10th from Lagna

Note Saturn is in Nakshatra of 7L and is aspecting 7H in transit now.

When LL Jupiter Moves to Kumbha Jup also aspects natal 7H (taking and

considering Shri KNR ji's double transit)

Also note that present MD, AD and PD Lords are strong enough to give the

marriage when I see from Vimsopaka Bala.

So in all this is the Marriage giving period for the native.. I think after Dec

15 2009 to Jan 2010 his marriage will surely happen.

Observing other factors I think Native is going to marry a girl who is not from

the same cast, sect or even religion of the native. It could be a Love marriage

also. A Foreign Lady!!!??:-)

Regards

Chandu2Chill

> , neelam gupta

> <neelamgupta07@> wrote:

Dear All,

We've had enough of theory. Let us do a live exercise. I am giving

below a data with some events (for confirming the lagna). Kindly predict

marriage for this person. He is still unmarried.

*June 19, 1977/18:57 hrs/Ratlam, M.P*

Events:

- One elder sister (5 years elder to him), one younger brother (4

years

younger to him).

Studied Hotel Management

- Father is an engineer by profession and mother is a lecturer.

- Got a good professional break and moved to Mumbai in December 2004

- Moved to a foreign country for doing an MBA in August 31, 2007

Please use whatever method you want, but give your reasons. Since the

event is yet to happen, the exercise would help us to know how everyone would

read a future event and whether there are some common readings.

Let me also tell you that the lagna is on sandhi. Events are given.

Please feel free to use your methods of correction, your favourite ayanamsha,

divisions, divisional charts, etc.

Hope all learned members would participate.

Regards

Neelam

> >

>

October 16, 2009

Dear Chandu2Chill,

It gives me pleasure to see your progress. Good.

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

, " CP " <nanna_id2006

wrote:

>

> Respected Neelam Ji,

>

> Thank you for providing us this LIVE excises I think this would be the

next logical step for AIA learning members in general and some of the

Astro stalwarts in particular to do these kind of studies here. I am

sure this will help immensely:-).

>

> I am giving my below analysis with my basic understanding of Astrology

so far.

>

> Natal Chart

> June 19, 1977

> Time: 6:57:00 pm

> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 75 E 04' 00 " , 23 N 19' 00 "

> Ratlam, India

>

> Tithi: Sukla Tritiya (Ma) (40.67% left)

> Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su)

> Nakshatra: Pushyami (Sa) (82.10% left)

> Yoga: Vyaghata (Ve) (97.59% left)

>

> I am using Lahiri Ayansma and TRUE Nodes I go with Sagittarius Lagna.

>

> For the question and timing of marriage, I would like to see from

Lagna, Moon and from Venus

>

> From Lagna 7H has Sun and 7L is Mercury 8H has Sat and Moon

> From Moon 7H and 8H has no planets but 7L Sat in Lagna

> From Venus 7H has Gulika 7L is Venus itself and is associated with

Mars

>

> These simple indications show there's a delay in marriage (here I am

not talking about QUALITY of the Marriage)

>

> Now come to the Vim Dasa

> Vimsottari Dasa:

>

> It is….

>

> Merc MD: 1993-01-24 (1:02:13 am) - 2010-01-24 (9:44:02 am)

> Sat AD: 2007-05-16 (11:38:10 am) - 2010-01-24 (9:44:02 am)

> Jup PD: 2009-09-17 (8:29:30 pm) - 2010-01-24 (9:44:02 am)

>

> Native is running 7L Mahadasa and Anterdasa of 2L Saturn and

Prityantara of LL Jupiter

>

> Present transit of PD lord Sat is in 3rd from Moon and 10th from Lagna

>

> Note Saturn is in Nakshatra of 7L and is aspecting 7H in transit now.

> When LL Jupiter Moves to Kumbha Jup also aspects natal 7H (taking and

considering Shri KNR ji's double transit)

>

> Also note that present MD, AD and PD Lords are strong enough to give

the marriage when I see from Vimsopaka Bala.

>

> So in all this is the Marriage giving period for the native.. I think

after Dec 15 2009 to Jan 2010 his marriage will surely happen.

>

> Observing other factors I think Native is going to marry a girl who is

not from the same cast, sect or even religion of the native. It could be

a Love marriage also. A Foreign Lady!!!??:-)

>

> Regards

>

> Chandu2Chill

>

> > , neelam gupta

> > <neelamgupta07@> wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> We've had enough of theory. Let us do a live exercise. I am giving

> below a data with some events (for confirming the lagna). Kindly

predict marriage for this person. He is still unmarried.

>

> *June 19, 1977/18:57 hrs/Ratlam, M.P*

>

> Events:

>

> - One elder sister (5 years elder to him), one younger brother (4

> years

> younger to him).

>

> Studied Hotel Management

> - Father is an engineer by profession and mother is a lecturer.

> - Got a good professional break and moved to Mumbai in December 2004

> - Moved to a foreign country for doing an MBA in August 31, 2007

>

> Please use whatever method you want, but give your reasons. Since the

> event is yet to happen, the exercise would help us to know how

everyone would read a future event and whether there are some common

readings.

>

> Let me also tell you that the lagna is on sandhi. Events are given.

> Please feel free to use your methods of correction, your favourite

ayanamsha,

>

> divisions, divisional charts, etc.

>

> Hope all learned members would participate.

>

> Regards

>

> Neelam

> > >

> >

>

October 16, 2009

Dear Shri Bhaskar Ji,

Many thanks for your kind words and encouraging response...

Wish you and your family, AND all Our AIA Owner, Moderators, Active members,

Scholars, silent Members and Silent Scholars!!! learners, friends....(just

wanted to be thoda Hatke!!:-):-))

***A Very Happy and Prospeous DIWALI***

May Maa Laxmi bless all

Regards

Chandu2Chill

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

Dear Chandu2Chill,

It gives me pleasure to see your progress. Good.

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

> , " CP " <nanna_id2006@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Neelam Ji,

> >

> > Thank you for providing us this LIVE excises I think this would be the

> next logical step for AIA learning members in general and some of the

> Astro stalwarts in particular to do these kind of studies here. I am

> sure this will help immensely:-).

> >

> > I am giving my below analysis with my basic understanding of Astrology

> so far.

> >

> > Natal Chart

> > June 19, 1977

> > Time: 6:57:00 pm

> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > Place: 75 E 04' 00 " , 23 N 19' 00 "

> > Ratlam, India

> >

> > Tithi: Sukla Tritiya (Ma) (40.67% left)

> > Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su)

> > Nakshatra: Pushyami (Sa) (82.10% left)

> > Yoga: Vyaghata (Ve) (97.59% left)

> >

> > I am using Lahiri Ayansma and TRUE Nodes I go with Sagittarius Lagna.

> >

> > For the question and timing of marriage, I would like to see from

> Lagna, Moon and from Venus

> >

> > From Lagna 7H has Sun and 7L is Mercury 8H has Sat and Moon

> > From Moon 7H and 8H has no planets but 7L Sat in Lagna

> > From Venus 7H has Gulika 7L is Venus itself and is associated with

> Mars

> >

> > These simple indications show there's a delay in marriage (here I am

> not talking about QUALITY of the Marriage)

> >

> > Now come to the Vim Dasa

> > Vimsottari Dasa:

> >

> > It is….

> >

> > Merc MD: 1993-01-24 (1:02:13 am) - 2010-01-24 (9:44:02 am)

> > Sat AD: 2007-05-16 (11:38:10 am) - 2010-01-24 (9:44:02 am)

> > Jup PD: 2009-09-17 (8:29:30 pm) - 2010-01-24 (9:44:02 am)

> >

> > Native is running 7L Mahadasa and Anterdasa of 2L Saturn and

> Prityantara of LL Jupiter

> >

> > Present transit of PD lord Sat is in 3rd from Moon and 10th from Lagna

> >

> > Note Saturn is in Nakshatra of 7L and is aspecting 7H in transit now.

> > When LL Jupiter Moves to Kumbha Jup also aspects natal 7H (taking and

> considering Shri KNR ji's double transit)

> >

> > Also note that present MD, AD and PD Lords are strong enough to give

> the marriage when I see from Vimsopaka Bala.

> >

> > So in all this is the Marriage giving period for the native.. I think

> after Dec 15 2009 to Jan 2010 his marriage will surely happen.

> >

> > Observing other factors I think Native is going to marry a girl who is

> not from the same cast, sect or even religion of the native. It could be

> a Love marriage also. A Foreign Lady!!!??:-)

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Chandu2Chill

> >

> > > , neelam gupta

> > > <neelamgupta07@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > We've had enough of theory. Let us do a live exercise. I am giving

> > below a data with some events (for confirming the lagna). Kindly

> predict marriage for this person. He is still unmarried.

> >

> > *June 19, 1977/18:57 hrs/Ratlam, M.P*

> >

> > Events:

> >

> > - One elder sister (5 years elder to him), one younger brother (4

> > years

> > younger to him).

> >

> > Studied Hotel Management

> > - Father is an engineer by profession and mother is a lecturer.

> > - Got a good professional break and moved to Mumbai in December 2004

> > - Moved to a foreign country for doing an MBA in August 31, 2007

> >

> > Please use whatever method you want, but give your reasons. Since the

> > event is yet to happen, the exercise would help us to know how

> everyone would read a future event and whether there are some common

> readings.

> >

> > Let me also tell you that the lagna is on sandhi. Events are given.

> > Please feel free to use your methods of correction, your favourite

> ayanamsha,

> >

> > divisions, divisional charts, etc.

> >

> > Hope all learned members would participate.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Neelam

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

October 16, 2009

Dear Bhaskar JiThanks for your encouraging words. Amit Desai

October 16, 2009

Respected members,Male: June 19, 1977Time: 18:57:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 75 E 49' 00", 26 N 55' 00" Ratlam, IndiaTrue node, Lahiri Ayanamsha.I took this chart with Vrishik lagna as i find this more appropiate over Dhanu lagna.Obervation and reasons :1)Native has one elder sister and one younger brother.Here jupiter aspects both 11H & 3H. 3L aspects 3H, 11L mercury co-joines jupiter in 7H.2)Since Lagna is in 'Gandhant' so many rajyogas is the chart automatically gets destroyed. To sustain the rajyoga horoscope must have strong other factors also.In scorpio lagna jupiter and mercury is aspecting the lagna giving strong saving grace to lagna. Lagnesh aspecting lagna.[This is not indicated in Dhanu Lagna]3)If we put 9th house for father, we will see saturn is aspecting mars, the 10th house from it giving us the clue for engineering profession of father.Similalrly jupiter+mercury aspecting 10H from 4H provides the hint for lecturer profession of mother.4)Hotel Management :9th house for graduation and 5th house for inclination of mind.Here saturn + moon aspected by mars (with venus) speaks about hotel management he has done.5)Professional breakthrough in rahu antardasa which is in 11H in Lagna and D-10 and also vargottama in navamsha.Vimsottari Dasa: Merc MD: 1993-01-23 - 2010-01-24 Rah AD: 2002-07-22 - 2005-02-086) Done MBA from abroad, again 2H comes into play, here jupiter is lord of 2 & 5th with mercury in 7H indicating the same.He went abroad can be seen easily in saturn antardasa.Vimsottari Dasa: Merc MD: 1993-01-23 - 2010-01-24 Sat AD: 2007-05-16 - 2010-01-24 Sat PD: 2007-05-16 - 2007-10-19Marriage :Vimsottari Dasa: Ket MD: 2010-01-24 - 2017-01-23 Ket AD: 2010-01-24 - 2010-06-22In ketu antardasa starting from 24th jan 10 to 22nd june 10, marriage is strongly possible.Ketu is vargottama, co-lord of vrishik in 5th house, sign dispositer jupiter in 7th house and nakshatra dispositer mercury in 7th house.Thankyou,Regards,Vijay GoelJaipur. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear All,> > We've had enough of theory. Let us do a live exercise. I am giving below a> data with some events (for confirming the lagna). Kindly predict marriage> for this person. He is still unmarried.> > *June 19, 1977/18:57 hrs/Ratlam, M.P*> > Events:> > - One elder sister (5 years elder to him), one younger brother (4 years> younger to him).> - Studied Hotel Management> - Father is an engineer by profession and mother is a lecturer.> - Got a good professional break and moved to Mumbai in December 2004> - Moved to a foreign country for doing an MBA in August 31, 2007> > > Please use whatever method you want, but give your reasons. Since the event> is yet to happen, the exercise would help us to know how everyone would read> a future event and whether there are some common readings.> Let me also tell you that the lagna is on sandhi. Events are given. Please> feel free to use your methods of correction, your favourite ayanamsha,> divisions, divisional charts, etc.> > Hope all learned members would participate.> > Regards> Neelam>

October 16, 2009

Dear Vijay Ji,

Thanks for your inputs. Your line of thinking matched mine very closely. From my perspective let me say a few points.

1. It takes a LOT of affliction to deny marriage to a Scorpio Lagna native, especially with Jupiter well placed in 7L aspecting Lagna.

2. 7L Venus even though has gone 12 Away to the 6H, is also conjunct LL/6L Mars. LL and 7L combination means Native wants to be in a relationship.

3. Desire: There is plenty of passion and desire in the chart. Mars-Venus conjunction is one indicator. 2L/5L in 7H is another indicator. 11L (who is a multiplier) in 7H is another indicator. Me (who is by himself a multiplier) in the 7H is another indicator. 7L Venus in the Navamsha of the 11L Me is another indicator.

4. So from my point of view this individual will have not ONE but SEVERAL opportunities to form relationships throughout his life. Whether he will do so or not depends on Society, etc. However, with influence of both Saturn and Mars on his 9L Moon, there is a good possibility of such relationships, going forward.

5. The the only question left in my mind, was, is there a good chance of ONE (or more) of those relationships fructifying as a socially accepted Bond. So, in comes Jupiter, who has more than enough agenda and strength (although dig bala is weak) in this Scorpio Lagna chart to ensure this. Ironically even though Jupiter is in Enemy Venus's sign, for relationships, this may enhance that portion.

6. It has also not missed my mind that looking at the Dasha sequence, Ketu is followed by a long Venus dasha, and seing several indicators of multiple relationships, more than one marriage is not out of the question. So I tend to lean in that direction, quite opposite from the direction of denial of marriage.

Regards,

-Manoj

October 16, 2009

Dear Vijay Ji,

Thanks for your inputs. Your line of thinking matched mine very closely. From my perspective let me say a few points.

1. It takes a LOT of affliction to deny marriage to a Scorpio Lagna native, especially with Jupiter well placed in 7L aspecting Lagna.

2. 7L Venus even though has gone 12 Away to the 6H, is also conjunct LL/6L Mars. LL and 7L combination means Native wants to be in a relationship.

3. Desire: There is plenty of passion and desire in the chart. Mars-Venus conjunction is one indicator. 2L/5L in 7H is another indicator. 11L (who is a multiplier) in 7H is another indicator. Me (who is by himself a multiplier) in the 7H is another indicator. 7L Venus in the Navamsha of the 11L Me is another indicator.

4. So from my point of view this individual will have not ONE but SEVERAL opportunities to form relationships throughout his life. Whether he will do so or not depends on Society, etc. However, with influence of both Saturn and Mars on his 9L Moon, there is a good possibility of such relationships, going forward.

5. The the only question left in my mind, was, is there a good chance of ONE (or more) of those relationships fructifying as a socially accepted Bond. So, in comes Jupiter, who has more than enough agenda and strength (although dig bala is weak) in this Scorpio Lagna chart to ensure this. Ironically even though Jupiter is in Enemy Venus's sign, for relationships, this may enhance that portion.

6. It has also not missed my mind that looking at the Dasha sequence, Ketu is followed by a long Venus dasha, and seing several indicators of multiple relationships, more than one marriage is not out of the question. So I tend to lean in that direction, quite opposite from the direction of denial of marriage.

Regards,

-Manoj

October 17, 2009

Resp. Goel ji,

The co-ordinates you have taken are very divergent from the geographical location of the place.. The North co-ordinates is way different and the E coordinate takes us to rajasthan. Kindly throw some light on this as the co-ordinate of this place are 75' E 05 and 23'19 which will give a dhanu lagna.

Regards

roshan

vijay.goel <goyalvj Sent: Fri, October 16, 2009 6:49:00 PM Re: predicting marriage - a live case

Respected members,Male: June 19, 1977Time: 18:57:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 75 E 49' 00", 26 N 55' 00" Ratlam, IndiaTrue node, Lahiri Ayanamsha.I took this chart with Vrishik lagna as i find this more appropiate over Dhanu lagna.Obervation and reasons :1)Native has one elder sister and one younger brother.Here jupiter aspects both 11H & 3H. 3L aspects 3H, 11L mercury co-joines jupiter in 7H.2)Since Lagna is in 'Gandhant' so many rajyogas is the chart automatically gets destroyed. To sustain the rajyoga horoscope must have strong other factors also.In scorpio lagna jupiter and mercury is aspecting the lagna giving strong saving grace to lagna. Lagnesh aspecting lagna.[This is not indicated in Dhanu Lagna]3)If we put 9th house for father, we will see saturn is aspecting mars, the 10th house from it giving us the clue for engineering profession of father.Similalrly jupiter+mercury aspecting 10H from 4H provides the hint for lecturer profession of mother.4)Hotel Management :9th house for graduation and 5th house for inclination of mind.Here saturn + moon aspected by mars (with venus) speaks about hotel management he has done.5)Professional breakthrough in rahu antardasa which is in 11H in Lagna and D-10 and also vargottama in navamsha.Vimsottari Dasa: Merc MD: 1993-01-23 -

2010-01-24 Rah AD: 2002-07-22 - 2005-02-086) Done MBA from abroad, again 2H comes into play, here jupiter is lord of 2 & 5th with mercury in 7H indicating the same.He went abroad can be seen easily in saturn antardasa.Vimsottari Dasa: Merc MD: 1993-01-23 - 2010-01-24 Sat AD: 2007-05-16 - 2010-01-24 Sat PD: 2007-05-16 - 2007-10-19Marriage :Vimsottari Dasa: Ket MD: 2010-01-24 - 2017-01-23 Ket AD: 2010-01-24 - 2010-06-22In ketu antardasa starting from 24th jan 10 to 22nd june 10, marriage is strongly possible.Ketu is vargottama, co-lord of vrishik in 5th house, sign dispositer jupiter in 7th house and nakshatra dispositer mercury in 7th house.Thankyou,Regards,Vijay GoelJaipur.ancient_indian_

astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:>> Dear All,> > We've had enough of theory. Let us do a live exercise. I am giving below a> data with some events (for confirming the lagna). Kindly predict marriage> for this person. He is still unmarried.> > *June 19, 1977/18:57 hrs/Ratlam, M.P*> > Events:> > - One elder sister (5 years elder to him), one younger brother (4 years> younger to him).> - Studied Hotel Management> - Father is an engineer by profession and mother is a lecturer.> - Got a good professional break and moved to Mumbai in December 2004> - Moved to a foreign country for doing an MBA in August 31, 2007> > > Please use whatever method you want, but give your reasons. Since the event> is yet to happen, the exercise would help us to know how everyone would

read> a future event and whether there are some common readings.> Let me also tell you that the lagna is on sandhi. Events are given. Please> feel free to use your methods of correction, your favourite ayanamsha,> divisions, divisional charts, etc.> > Hope all learned members would participate.> > Regards> Neelam>

October 17, 2009

Dear Roshanji,

Since co-ordinates are wrong, kindly shift the lagna to scorpio with your

co-ordinates. The new time will be at 18.53 hrs.

Their will be few days forwade shift in dasa and everything will be same.

Thankyou,

Best Wishes,

Vijay Goel

Jaipur.

, rossin ucile <kandisa_ur

wrote:

>

> Resp. Goel ji,

>

> The co-ordinates you have taken are very divergent from the geographical

location of the place.. The North co-ordinates is way different and the E

coordinate takes us to rajasthan. Kindly throw some light on this as the

co-ordinate of this place are 75' E 05 and 23'19 which will give a dhanu lagna.

>

> Regards

>

> roshan

October 17, 2009

Dear Manoj ji,

I agree will all the points.

I see lot of passion in this chart as you have correctly mentioned the reasons

in point number 3, still have some doubt in some corner of my mind, did he had

any chances for physical relationship ?. Venus is in enemy sign in 6H

(abstaining from sex) and neecha in Navamsha. But Scorpio lagna are very

secretive and rebellious in nature so cannot be sure.

Here it is Desh, Kaal, Paristhiti comes into play as you have rightly said in

point no. 4.

Very nicely explained

Thankyou,

Best Wishes,

Vijay Goel

Jaipur.

, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj wrote:

>

> Dear Vijay Ji,

>

> Thanks for your inputs. Your line of thinking matched mine very closely. From

my perspective let me say a few points.

>

> 1. It takes a LOT of affliction to deny marriage to a Scorpio Lagna native,

especially with Jupiter well placed in 7L aspecting Lagna.

>

> 2. 7L Venus even though has gone 12 Away to the 6H, is also conjunct LL/6L

Mars. LL and 7L combination means Native wants to be in a relationship.

>

> 3. Desire: There is plenty of passion and desire in the chart. Mars-Venus

conjunction is one indicator. 2L/5L in 7H is another indicator. 11L (who is a

multiplier) in 7H is another indicator. Me (who is by himself a multiplier) in

the 7H is another indicator. 7L Venus in the Navamsha of the 11L Me is another

indicator.

>

> 4. So from my point of view this individual will have not ONE but SEVERAL

opportunities to form relationships throughout his life. Whether he will do so

or not depends on Society, etc. However, with influence of both Saturn and Mars

on his 9L Moon, there is a good possibility of such relationships, going

forward.

>

> 5. The the only question left in my mind, was, is there a good chance of ONE

(or more) of those relationships fructifying as a socially accepted Bond. So, in

comes Jupiter, who has more than enough agenda and strength (although dig bala

is weak) in this Scorpio Lagna chart to ensure this. Ironically even though

Jupiter is in Enemy Venus's sign, for relationships, this may enhance that

portion.

>

> 6. It has also not missed my mind that looking at the Dasha sequence, Ketu is

followed by a long Venus dasha, and seing several indicators of multiple

relationships, more than one marriage is not out of the question. So I tend to

lean in that direction, quite opposite from the direction of denial of marriage.

>

> Regards,

> -Manoj

>

October 17, 2009

DEAR NEELAM JI,the more i see the more i find no marriage combinations with scorpio lagna.1. Both MO and ven(7thL as well) are under full influence of sat(like in my case)2. conjunction of mo and sat.3. Ven with Mars and 7thL in 6(one may have affairs but no interest in marriage.4. weak 7thL in 6th(shadbala)in this scenario it may not be posible to marry.Regards,gopi. , "gopalakrishna" <gopi_b927 wrote:>> Dear Neelam ji,> this is interesting excercise for sure.We have to find out the> corectness of lagna first.Hence it's> > no ordinery task Neelam ji.But let me also try.Also sure that i am not a> learned member but a> > sincere learner.> I may have to settle for scorpio lagna for the following reasons.> 1.Marriage is already delayed i think due to sat's asp on 7th lord.> 2. Sat is also influencing moon in upapada.7t L from mo is also sat with> moon.Sat in fact aspg> > both lagna and 7thL.> > 3.Rahu in 11th in a female sign asp by jup(one elder sister)3rd lord in> mutual asp with karaka> > mars from a male sign (younger brother).> 4.5th H in RK axis and 5th L in a venusian sign with karaka for> knowledge can give hotel> > management.Sidhamsa 5thL ven in 6th house copetition with many planets> in a fixed sign as> > well..> 5.Ven in 7th house of position giver in her MT and Rahu in 11th is> conducive to hotel management> > in D10(my own observation/experience)> > coming back to the question of marriage it is doubtful if he gets> married at all,but cant be ruled> > out since jup with another benefic in 7th aspg lagna as well asLL> with7thL!!...> Sat with mo in upapada,ketu in jup's sign in 5th and also debven in 7th> in D9 marriage is unlikely> > but with the suport of dasas it can hapen but with an element of> surprise(8thL mer with jup in 7th> > in Rasi and 8th L of D9 deb with presence of Rahu in 7th!!)7thL of Rasi> ven also karaka for> > marriage deb in 7th with Rahu the surpriser.It is also to be noted that> ven is weak in> > shadbala.though in her own nakshatra.2ndL from upapada in 12th from UP> and 8th from lagna is> > no good for marriage.> there are good inclinations for spiritual life.> > AK jup and DK sun are in 2/12 positions.(cant be good for marriage)> > Regards,> gopi.> > , neelam gupta> neelamgupta07@ wrote:> >> > Dear All,> >> > Please understand that the aim of this exercise is to share our> techniques> > for predicting marriage.> > We are not looking for a prediction for the native, but for a> technique> > through which a successful prediction was made.> >> > I request that all participants share their respective methods for> timing of> > marriage.> > I would also request Goel ji and Pathi ji to share their experience> with us> > show us how to read this chart for marriage.> >> > Regards> > Neelam> >> >> >> > 2009/10/15 utkal.panigrahi utkal.panigrahi@> >> > >> > >> > > I think, marriage talks are already going on, it will take place> when Guru> > > will move to Kumbha, most probably, going to happen by/before Mid> Jan2010.> > >> > > regards,> > > Utkal.> > >> > >> > > --- In> <%40yaho\> ogroups.com>,> > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear All,> > > >> > > > We've had enough of theory. Let us do a live exercise. I am giving> below> > > a> > > > data with some events (for confirming the lagna). Kindly predict> marriage> > > > for this person. He is still unmarried.> > > >> > > > *June 19, 1977/18:57 hrs/Ratlam, M.P*> > > >> > > > Events:> > > >> > > > - One elder sister (5 years elder to him), one younger brother (4> years> > > > younger to him).> > > > - Studied Hotel Management> > > > - Father is an engineer by profession and mother is a lecturer.> > > > - Got a good professional break and moved to Mumbai in December> 2004> > > > - Moved to a foreign country for doing an MBA in August 31, 2007> > > >> > > >> > > > Please use whatever method you want, but give your reasons. Since> the> > > event> > > > is yet to happen, the exercise would help us to know how everyone> would> > > read> > > > a future event and whether there are some common readings.> > > > Let me also tell you that the lagna is on sandhi. Events are> given.> > > Please> > > > feel free to use your methods of correction, your favourite> ayanamsha,> > > > divisions, divisional charts, etc.> > > >> > > > Hope all learned members would participate.> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Neelam> > > >> > >> > >> > >> >>

October 17, 2009

Dear Manoj and Vijay ji,I was also coming to the feeling that rising sign could be Scorpio.In that case he should have been married at least in Mercury/ Rahu.Rahu is Vargottama and placed in 7H in D-9 chart. Upapada is in 9H in Cancer. Mercury is 11L placed in 7H and in Cancer signIn D-9 Chart.As he is yet to be married , let examine the chart from Sagittarius Lagna.1.AL is in 11H and Upapada in 10H ( 12H from AL). Such natives lack inherent desireto marry.2 Mercury is the dispositer of Rahu and Sun and Placed in 6H with LL whois the dispositer of Ketu. 3.Sun Is placeg in 7H, in my article on marriage I made an observation , if Sun is in between 4 to 11 degree , such natives are either do not marry or their marriage do not survive.4. When marriage is possible-Kindly observe in D-9 chart that Ketu is vargottama and Mars is Bhavottama.He is likely to be married in Ketu/mars period.5.This marriage will not survive. His secomd marriage may survive as 8H fromupapada is occupied by Mars and Venus and second house from it ,that is 9H from Upapada is occupied by Jupiter and Mercury ( these planetswill give stability to second marriage.6.As Venus is in debility in D-9 chart and with Rahu, He will make up afterinitial missunderstanding with the second spouge.Other indications are more or less common with both Lagna, stillscorpion's are of some special breed.Regards,G. K. Goel

address: L-409 Sarita Vihar, New Delhi - 110076

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mobile: 09350311433 From: goyalvjDate: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:36:19 +0000 Re: predicting marriage - a live case

Dear Manoj ji,

I agree will all the points.

I see lot of passion in this chart as you have correctly mentioned the reasons in point number 3, still have some doubt in some corner of my mind, did he had any chances for physical relationship ?. Venus is in enemy sign in 6H (abstaining from sex) and neecha in Navamsha. But Scorpio lagna are very secretive and rebellious in nature so cannot be sure.

Here it is Desh, Kaal, Paristhiti comes into play as you have rightly said in point no. 4.

Very nicely explained

Thankyou,

Best Wishes,

Vijay Goel

Jaipur.

, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:

>

> Dear Vijay Ji,

>

> Thanks for your inputs. Your line of thinking matched mine very closely. From my perspective let me say a few points.

>

> 1. It takes a LOT of affliction to deny marriage to a Scorpio Lagna native, especially with Jupiter well placed in 7L aspecting Lagna.

>

> 2. 7L Venus even though has gone 12 Away to the 6H, is also conjunct LL/6L Mars. LL and 7L combination means Native wants to be in a relationship.

>

> 3. Desire: There is plenty of passion and desire in the chart. Mars-Venus conjunction is one indicator. 2L/5L in 7H is another indicator. 11L (who is a multiplier) in 7H is another indicator. Me (who is by himself a multiplier) in the 7H is another indicator. 7L Venus in the Navamsha of the 11L Me is another indicator.

>

> 4. So from my point of view this individual will have not ONE but SEVERAL opportunities to form relationships throughout his life. Whether he will do so or not depends on Society, etc. However, with influence of both Saturn and Mars on his 9L Moon, there is a good possibility of such relationships, going forward.

>

> 5. The the only question left in my mind, was, is there a good chance of ONE (or more) of those relationships fructifying as a socially accepted Bond. So, in comes Jupiter, who has more than enough agenda and strength (although dig bala is weak) in this Scorpio Lagna chart to ensure this. Ironically even though Jupiter is in Enemy Venus's sign, for relationships, this may enhance that portion.

>

> 6. It has also not missed my mind that looking at the Dasha sequence, Ketu is followed by a long Venus dasha, and seing several indicators of multiple relationships, more than one marriage is not out of the question. So I tend to lean in that direction, quite opposite from the direction of denial of marriage.

>

> Regards,

> -Manoj

>

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October 17, 2009

Dear Astrologers,

Namaskar,

The marriage of this native may take place sometime in May/2012.

This native seems to be stubborn by nature and might be indulge in affairs.

Thanks and regards.

Ramesh Mishrarcmastro--- On Sat, 17/10/09, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 wrote:

gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 Re: predicting marriage - a live case Date: Saturday, 17 October, 2009, 1:24 PM

DEAR NEELAM JI,the more i see the more i find no marriage combinations with scorpio lagna.1. Both MO and ven(7thL as well) are under full influence of sat(like in my case)2. conjunction of mo and sat.3. Ven with Mars and 7thL in 6(one may have affairs but no interest in marriage.4. weak 7thL in 6th(shadbala)in this scenario it may not be posible to marry.Regards,gopi.ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna" <gopi_b927@.. .> wrote:>> Dear Neelam ji,> this is interesting excercise for sure.We have to find out the> corectness of lagna first.Hence it's> > no ordinery task Neelam ji.But let me also try.Also sure that i am not a> learned member but a> > sincere learner.> I may have to settle for scorpio lagna for the following reasons.> 1.Marriage is already delayed i think due to sat's asp on 7th

lord.> 2. Sat is also influencing moon in upapada.7t L from mo is also sat with> moon.Sat in fact aspg> > both lagna and 7thL.> > 3.Rahu in 11th in a female sign asp by jup(one elder sister)3rd lord in> mutual asp with karaka> > mars from a male sign (younger brother).> 4.5th H in RK axis and 5th L in a venusian sign with karaka for> knowledge can give hotel> > management.Sidhamsa 5thL ven in 6th house copetition with many planets> in a fixed sign as> > well..> 5.Ven in 7th house of position giver in her MT and Rahu in 11th is> conducive to hotel management> > in D10(my own observation/ experience)> > coming back to the question of marriage it is doubtful if he gets> married at all,but cant be ruled> > out since jup with another benefic in 7th aspg lagna as well asLL>

with7thL!!.. .> Sat with mo in upapada,ketu in jup's sign in 5th and also debven in 7th> in D9 marriage is unlikely> > but with the suport of dasas it can hapen but with an element of> surprise(8thL mer with jup in 7th> > in Rasi and 8th L of D9 deb with presence of Rahu in 7th!!)7thL of Rasi> ven also karaka for> > marriage deb in 7th with Rahu the surpriser.It is also to be noted that> ven is weak in> > shadbala.though in her own nakshatra.2ndL from upapada in 12th from UP> and 8th from lagna is> > no good for marriage.> there are good inclinations for spiritual life.> > AK jup and DK sun are in 2/12 positions.(cant be good for marriage)> > Regards,> gopi.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta> neelamgupta07@ wrote:> >> > Dear

All,> >> > Please understand that the aim of this exercise is to share our> techniques> > for predicting marriage.> > We are not looking for a prediction for the native, but for a> technique> > through which a successful prediction was made.> >> > I request that all participants share their respective methods for> timing of> > marriage.> > I would also request Goel ji and Pathi ji to share their experience> with us> > show us how to read this chart for marriage.> >> > Regards> > Neelam> >> >> >> > 2009/10/15 utkal.panigrahi utkal.panigrahi@> >> > >> > >> > > I think, marriage talks are already going on, it will take place> when Guru> > > will move to Kumbha, most probably, going to happen

by/before Mid> Jan2010.> > >> > > regards,> > > Utkal.> > >> > >> > > --- In> ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_ astrology% 40yaho\> ogroups.com>,> > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear All,> > > >> > > > We've had enough of theory. Let us do a live exercise. I am giving> below> > > a> > > > data with some events (for confirming the lagna). Kindly predict> marriage> > > > for this person. He is still unmarried.> > > >> > > > *June 19, 1977/18:57 hrs/Ratlam, M.P*> > > >> > > > Events:> > > >> > > > - One elder sister (5 years elder to him), one younger brother (4>

years> > > > younger to him).> > > > - Studied Hotel Management> > > > - Father is an engineer by profession and mother is a lecturer.> > > > - Got a good professional break and moved to Mumbai in December> 2004> > > > - Moved to a foreign country for doing an MBA in August 31, 2007> > > >> > > >> > > > Please use whatever method you want, but give your reasons. Since> the> > > event> > > > is yet to happen, the exercise would help us to know how everyone> would> > > read> > > > a future event and whether there are some common readings.> > > > Let me also tell you that the lagna is on sandhi. Events are> given.> > > Please> > > > feel free to use your methods of correction, your favourite>

ayanamsha,> > > > divisions, divisional charts, etc.> > > >> > > > Hope all learned members would participate.> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Neelam> > > >> > >> > >> > >> >>

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October 17, 2009

Respected Goel Saheb and all,Thankyou for your esteem views.Actually i erected two prashna chart at different intervals and got the hint for scorpio lagna and even today i again got similar results (Navamsha technique as taught by your good selves).---------------------------Today i tried new KP method in which Bhaskerji is an expert known as KP ruling planet concept.I erected the chart at [Prashna Chart as per KP ayanamsha in Jhora] October 17, 2009Time: 15:33:05Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 75 E 49' 00", 26 N 55' 00" Jaipur, IndiaRuling planet://One must note at time of judgement what is the prevailing Lagna Lord, Moon Star Lord, Moon raashi lord and the Day Lord. This is known as LSRD. This is how Bhaskerji told us which is originally the KSK method later on Lagna star lord is also added by his followers//LSRD is Sa, Mer, Mo, Sa.//There is a rule that if Rahu or Ketu occupies the raashi of any of these Lords, then one must change the Lord to the Nodes. Rahu is presently occupying Capricorn owned by Saturn, therefore we write Rahu in place of Saturn and Ketu occupying cancer so ketu in place of moon//New ruling planet is Ra, Mer, Ke, Sa.//If the Lagna arrived at ,has the Nakshatra Lord and the Sub Lord planet same as in the LSRD, then it means that the recorded time is correct.//Here in Scorpio lagna Mer and saturn is nakshatra lord and sub lord which is same as LSRD.[We will note that even in Dhanu lagna ketu is star lord and sublord same as LSRD.]In another KP technique expert Sri Yogesh Raoji says Moon star lord must be sub lord of ascendent in natal chart.: Here in scorpio lagna saturn is star lord as moon is in Pushya and Lagna sub lord is also saturn.With KP ayanamsha birth time will be change to 18.53.14 for scorpio lagna.So putting two technique together , is verifying the Scorpio lagna.-----------------------Since yesterday and today moon is very weak in Transits so it is very much possible to get wrong results with my prashna as i am dominated by moon in my own chart :)Thanking you,Regards,Vijay GoelJaipur. , gopal krishna goel <g.k.goel wrote:>> > Dear Manoj and Vijay ji,> I was also coming to the feeling that rising sign could > be Scorpio.In that case he should have been married > at least in Mercury/ Rahu.Rahu is Vargottama and placed in 7H in D-9 chart. > Upapada is in 9H in Cancer. Mercury is 11L placed in 7H and in Cancer sign> In D-9 Chart.> > As he is yet to be married , let examine the chart from Sagittarius Lagna.> 1.AL is in 11H and Upapada in 10H ( 12H from AL). Such natives lack inherent desire> to marry.> 2 Mercury is the dispositer of Rahu and Sun and Placed in 6H with LL who> is the dispositer of Ketu.> 3.Sun Is placeg in 7H, in my article on marriage I made an observation , > if Sun is in between 4 to 11 degree , such natives > are either do not marry or their marriage do not survive.> > 4. When marriage is possible-Kindly observe in D-9 chart that Ketu is vargottama> and Mars is Bhavottama.> He is likely to be married in Ketu/mars period.> 5.This marriage will not survive. His secomd marriage may survive as 8H from> upapada is occupied by Mars and Venus and second house from it ,that is > 9H from Upapada is occupied by Jupiter and Mercury ( these planets> will give stability to second marriage.> 6.As Venus is in debility in D-9 chart and with Rahu, He will make up after> initial missunderstanding with the second spouge.> > Other indications are more or less common with both Lagna, still> scorpion's are of some special breed.> Regards,> > G. K. Goel> > > > address: L-409 Sarita Vihar, New Delhi - 110076> > tel: 011-26943689, 011-41403352, > > mobile: 09350311433> > > > > > goyalvj Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:36:19 +0000> Re: predicting marriage - a live case> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj ji,> > > > I agree will all the points.> > > > I see lot of passion in this chart as you have correctly mentioned the reasons in point number 3, still have some doubt in some corner of my mind, did he had any chances for physical relationship ?. Venus is in enemy sign in 6H (abstaining from sex) and neecha in Navamsha. But Scorpio lagna are very secretive and rebellious in nature so cannot be sure.> > Here it is Desh, Kaal, Paristhiti comes into play as you have rightly said in point no. 4.> > > > Very nicely explained > > > > Thankyou,> > Best Wishes,> > Vijay Goel> > Jaipur.> > > > , Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Vijay Ji,> > > > > > Thanks for your inputs. Your line of thinking matched mine very closely. From my perspective let me say a few points. > > > > > > 1. It takes a LOT of affliction to deny marriage to a Scorpio Lagna native, especially with Jupiter well placed in 7L aspecting Lagna.> > > > > > 2. 7L Venus even though has gone 12 Away to the 6H, is also conjunct LL/6L Mars. LL and 7L combination means Native wants to be in a relationship.> > > > > > 3. Desire: There is plenty of passion and desire in the chart. Mars-Venus conjunction is one indicator. 2L/5L in 7H is another indicator. 11L (who is a multiplier) in 7H is another indicator. Me (who is by himself a multiplier) in the 7H is another indicator. 7L Venus in the Navamsha of the 11L Me is another indicator.> > > > > > 4. So from my point of view this individual will have not ONE but SEVERAL opportunities to form relationships throughout his life. Whether he will do so or not depends on Society, etc. However, with influence of both Saturn and Mars on his 9L Moon, there is a good possibility of such relationships, going forward.> > > > > > 5. The the only question left in my mind, was, is there a good chance of ONE (or more) of those relationships fructifying as a socially accepted Bond. So, in comes Jupiter, who has more than enough agenda and strength (although dig bala is weak) in this Scorpio Lagna chart to ensure this. Ironically even though Jupiter is in Enemy Venus's sign, for relationships, this may enhance that portion.> > > > > > 6. It has also not missed my mind that looking at the Dasha sequence, Ketu is followed by a long Venus dasha, and seing several indicators of multiple relationships, more than one marriage is not out of the question. So I tend to lean in that direction, quite opposite from the direction of denial of marriage.> > > > > > Regards,> > > -Manoj> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________> Great events make grand headlines – read them all on MSN India> http://in.msn.com>

October 17, 2009

Dear Mishra ji,

We must stick to answering the Query. Whether the native is taking

drugs, going to visit society women, or beating school children, we are

not concerned. We should participate only uptil answering what has been

asked of us. This rule must be applied even in real Life, off the forum

when someone visits us for consultations.

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

, ramesh mishra

<aarceemastro2002 wrote:

>

> Dear Astrologers,

> Namaskar,

> The marriage of this native may take place sometime in May/2012.

> This native seems to be stubborn by nature and might be indulge in

affairs.

> Thanks and regards.

> Ramesh Mishra

> rcmastro

>

> --- On Sat, 17/10/09, gopalakrishna gopi_b927 wrote:

>

> gopalakrishna gopi_b927

> Re: predicting marriage - a live

case

>

> Saturday, 17 October, 2009, 1:24 PM

DEAR NEELAM JI,

> the more i see the more i find no marriage combinations with scorpio

lagna.

> 1. Both MO and ven(7thL as well) are under full influence of sat(like

in my case)

> 2. conjunction of mo and sat.

> 3. Ven with Mars and 7thL in 6(one may have affairs but no interest in

marriage.

> 4. weak 7thL in 6th(shadbala)

> in this scenario it may not be posible to marry.

> Regards,

> gopi.

> ancient_indian_ astrology, " gopalakrishna "

gopi_b927@ .> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Neelam ji,

> > this is interesting excercise for sure.We have to find out the

> > corectness of lagna first.Hence it's

> >

> > no ordinery task Neelam ji.But let me also try.Also sure that i am

not a

> > learned member but a

> >

> > sincere learner.

> > I may have to settle for scorpio lagna for the following reasons.

> > 1.Marriage is already delayed i think due to sat's asp on 7th lord.

> > 2. Sat is also influencing moon in upapada.7t L from mo is also sat

with

> > moon.Sat in fact aspg

> >

> > both lagna and 7thL.

> >

> > 3.Rahu in 11th in a female sign asp by jup(one elder sister)3rd lord

in

> > mutual asp with karaka

> >

> > mars from a male sign (younger brother).

> > 4.5th H in RK axis and 5th L in a venusian sign with karaka for

> > knowledge can give hotel

> >

> > management.Sidhamsa 5thL ven in 6th house copetition with many

planets

> > in a fixed sign as

> >

> > well..

> > 5.Ven in 7th house of position giver in her MT and Rahu in 11th is

> > conducive to hotel management

> >

> > in D10(my own observation/ experience)

> >

> > coming back to the question of marriage it is doubtful if he gets

> > married at all,but cant be ruled

> >

> > out since jup with another benefic in 7th aspg lagna as well asLL

> > with7thL!!.. .

> > Sat with mo in upapada,ketu in jup's sign in 5th and also debven in

7th

> > in D9 marriage is unlikely

> >

> > but with the suport of dasas it can hapen but with an element of

> > surprise(8thL mer with jup in 7th

> >

> > in Rasi and 8th L of D9 deb with presence of Rahu in 7th!!)7thL of

Rasi

> > ven also karaka for

> >

> > marriage deb in 7th with Rahu the surpriser.It is also to be noted

that

> > ven is weak in

> >

> > shadbala.though in her own nakshatra.2ndL from upapada in 12th from

UP

> > and 8th from lagna is

> >

> > no good for marriage.

> > there are good inclinations for spiritual life.

> >

> > AK jup and DK sun are in 2/12 positions.(cant be good for marriage)

> >

> > Regards,

> > gopi.

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta

> > neelamgupta07@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > Please understand that the aim of this exercise is to share our

> > techniques

> > > for predicting marriage.

> > > We are not looking for a prediction for the native, but for a

> > technique

> > > through which a successful prediction was made.

> > >

> > > I request that all participants share their respective methods for

> > timing of

> > > marriage.

> > > I would also request Goel ji and Pathi ji to share their

experience

> > with us

> > > show us how to read this chart for marriage.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Neelam

> > >

> > > 2009/10/15 utkal.panigrahi utkal.panigrahi@

> > >

> > > >

> > > > I think, marriage talks are already going on, it will take place

> > when Guru

> > > > will move to Kumbha, most probably, going to happen by/before

Mid

> > Jan2010.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Utkal.

> > > >

> > > > --- In

> > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_

astrology% 40yaho\

> > ogroups.com>,

> > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear All,

> > > > >

> > > > > We've had enough of theory. Let us do a live exercise. I am

giving

> > below

> > > > a

> > > > > data with some events (for confirming the lagna). Kindly

predict

> > marriage

> > > > > for this person. He is still unmarried.

> > > > >

> > > > > *June 19, 1977/18:57 hrs/Ratlam, M.P*

> > > > >

> > > > > Events:

> > > > >

> > > > > - One elder sister (5 years elder to him), one younger brother

(4

> > years

> > > > > younger to him).

> > > > > - Studied Hotel Management

> > > > > - Father is an engineer by profession and mother is a

lecturer.

> > > > > - Got a good professional break and moved to Mumbai in

December

> > 2004

> > > > > - Moved to a foreign country for doing an MBA in August 31,

2007

> > > > >

> > > > > Please use whatever method you want, but give your reasons.

Since

> > the

> > > > event

> > > > > is yet to happen, the exercise would help us to know how

everyone

> > would

> > > > read

> > > > > a future event and whether there are some common readings.

> > > > > Let me also tell you that the lagna is on sandhi. Events are

> > given.

> > > > Please

> > > > > feel free to use your methods of correction, your favourite

> > ayanamsha,

> > > > > divisions, divisional charts, etc.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hope all learned members would participate.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Neelam

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

Try the new India Homepage.

http://in./trynew

>

October 17, 2009

Dear Vijay Goel ji,

Your mithai which I ate, is not wasted. I am happy that you are now on

your way to becoming a KP Astrologer.

Good work. Keep it up.

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

, " vijay.goel "

<goyalvj wrote:

>

> Respected Goel Saheb and all,

>

> Thankyou for your esteem views.

>

> Actually i erected two prashna chart at different intervals and got

the

> hint for scorpio lagna and even today i again got similar results

> (Navamsha technique as taught by your good selves).

>

> ---------------------------

>

> Today i tried new KP method in which Bhaskerji is an expert known as

KP

> ruling planet concept.

> I erected the chart at

> [Prashna Chart as per KP ayanamsha in Jhora]

> October 17, 2009

> Time: 15:33:05

> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 75 E 49' 00 " , 26 N 55' 00 "

> Jaipur, India

>

> Ruling planet:

> //One must note at time of judgement what is the prevailing Lagna

Lord,

> Moon Star Lord, Moon raashi lord and the Day Lord. This is known as

> LSRD. This is how Bhaskerji told us which is originally the KSK method

> later on Lagna star lord is also added by his followers//

>

> LSRD is Sa, Mer, Mo, Sa.

>

> //There is a rule that if Rahu or Ketu occupies the raashi of any of

> these Lords, then one must change the Lord to the Nodes. Rahu is

> presently occupying Capricorn owned by Saturn, therefore we write Rahu

> in place of Saturn and Ketu occupying cancer so ketu in place of

moon//

>

> New ruling planet is Ra, Mer, Ke, Sa.

>

> //If the Lagna arrived at ,has the Nakshatra Lord and the Sub Lord

> planet same as in the LSRD, then it means that the recorded time is

> correct.//

>

> Here in Scorpio lagna Mer and saturn is nakshatra lord and sub lord

> which is same as LSRD.

> [We will note that even in Dhanu lagna ketu is star lord and sublord

> same as LSRD.]

>

> In another KP technique expert Sri Yogesh Raoji says Moon star lord

must

> be sub lord of ascendent in natal chart.: Here in scorpio lagna saturn

> is star lord as moon is in Pushya and Lagna sub lord is also saturn.

>

> With KP ayanamsha birth time will be change to 18.53.14 for scorpio

> lagna.

>

> So putting two technique together , is verifying the Scorpio lagna.

>

> -----------------------

>

> Since yesterday and today moon is very weak in Transits so it is very

> much possible to get wrong results with my prashna as i am dominated

by

> moon in my own chart

>

> Thanking you,

> Regards,

> Vijay Goel

> Jaipur.

>

> , gopal krishna goel

> g.k.goel@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Manoj and Vijay ji,

> > I was also coming to the feeling that rising sign could

> > be Scorpio.In that case he should have been married

> > at least in Mercury/ Rahu.Rahu is Vargottama and placed in 7H in D-9

> chart.

> > Upapada is in 9H in Cancer. Mercury is 11L placed in 7H and in

Cancer

> sign

> > In D-9 Chart.

> >

> > As he is yet to be married , let examine the chart from Sagittarius

> Lagna.

> > 1.AL is in 11H and Upapada in 10H ( 12H from AL). Such natives lack

> inherent desire

> > to marry.

> > 2 Mercury is the dispositer of Rahu and Sun and Placed in 6H with LL

> who

> > is the dispositer of Ketu.

> > 3.Sun Is placeg in 7H, in my article on marriage I made an

> observation ,

> > if Sun is in between 4 to 11 degree , such natives

> > are either do not marry or their marriage do not survive.

> >

> > 4. When marriage is possible-Kindly observe in D-9 chart that Ketu

is

> vargottama

> > and Mars is Bhavottama.

> > He is likely to be married in Ketu/mars period.

> > 5.This marriage will not survive. His secomd marriage may survive as

> 8H from

> > upapada is occupied by Mars and Venus and second house from it ,that

> is

> > 9H from Upapada is occupied by Jupiter and Mercury ( these planets

> > will give stability to second marriage.

> > 6.As Venus is in debility in D-9 chart and with Rahu, He will make

up

> after

> > initial missunderstanding with the second spouge.

> >

> > Other indications are more or less common with both Lagna, still

> > scorpion's are of some special breed.

> > Regards,

> >

> > G. K. Goel

> >

> > address: L-409 Sarita Vihar, New Delhi - 110076

> >

> > tel: 011-26943689, 011-41403352,

> >

> > mobile: 09350311433

> >

> > goyalvj@

> > Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:36:19 +0000

> > Re: predicting marriage - a live

> case

> >

> > Dear Manoj ji,

> >

> > I agree will all the points.

> >

> > I see lot of passion in this chart as you have correctly mentioned

the

> reasons in point number 3, still have some doubt in some corner of my

> mind, did he had any chances for physical relationship ?. Venus is in

> enemy sign in 6H (abstaining from sex) and neecha in Navamsha. But

> Scorpio lagna are very secretive and rebellious in nature so cannot be

> sure.

> >

> > Here it is Desh, Kaal, Paristhiti comes into play as you have

rightly

> said in point no. 4.

> >

> > Very nicely explained

> >

> > Thankyou,

> >

> > Best Wishes,

> >

> > Vijay Goel

> >

> > Jaipur.

> >

> > , Manoj Chandran

> chandran_manoj@ wrote:

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Dear Vijay Ji,

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Thanks for your inputs. Your line of thinking matched mine very

> closely. From my perspective let me say a few points.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > 1. It takes a LOT of affliction to deny marriage to a Scorpio

Lagna

> native, especially with Jupiter well placed in 7L aspecting Lagna.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > 2. 7L Venus even though has gone 12 Away to the 6H, is also

conjunct

> LL/6L Mars. LL and 7L combination means Native wants to be in a

> relationship.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > 3. Desire: There is plenty of passion and desire in the chart.

> Mars-Venus conjunction is one indicator. 2L/5L in 7H is another

> indicator. 11L (who is a multiplier) in 7H is another indicator. Me

(who

> is by himself a multiplier) in the 7H is another indicator. 7L Venus

in

> the Navamsha of the 11L Me is another indicator.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > 4. So from my point of view this individual will have not ONE but

> SEVERAL opportunities to form relationships throughout his life.

Whether

> he will do so or not depends on Society, etc. However, with influence

of

> both Saturn and Mars on his 9L Moon, there is a good possibility of

such

> relationships, going forward.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > 5. The the only question left in my mind, was, is there a good

> chance of ONE (or more) of those relationships fructifying as a

socially

> accepted Bond. So, in comes Jupiter, who has more than enough agenda

and

> strength (although dig bala is weak) in this Scorpio Lagna chart to

> ensure this. Ironically even though Jupiter is in Enemy Venus's sign,

> for relationships, this may enhance that portion.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > 6. It has also not missed my mind that looking at the Dasha

> sequence, Ketu is followed by a long Venus dasha, and seing several

> indicators of multiple relationships, more than one marriage is not

out

> of the question. So I tend to lean in that direction, quite opposite

> from the direction of denial of marriage.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Regards,

> >

> > > -Manoj

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > _______________

> > Great events make grand headlines – read them all on MSN India

> > http://in.msn.com

> >

>

October 17, 2009

Dear Vijay ji ,

We do not know much about the person.

If he has Scorpio Lagna , Moon sign Cancer and

AL is placed in 11H with Rahu, the person is very

secretive and in that case , Venus and Rahu will fall

in 7H in D-9 chart.

One can only say , who will access his sex life.

One more thing goes in favor of Scorpio Lagna.

If you will consider D-10 chart . Bhovottama Rahu (which is

Vargottama in D-9 chart of skills) is placed in 11H. In D-1 chart. 11L

is placed in 7H.He got the excellent job in Mercury/Rahu.

11H is also indicate attachment with office colleague.If one

event took place why was there no attachment with female colleague?

If it was only for pleasure , it may be a different issue .

It is my haunch , if he is a Scorpion ,he atleast must had a secret marriage.

Wish you happy Diwali.

G. K. Goel

goyalvj

Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:11:42 +0000

Re: predicting marriage - a live case

Respected Goel Saheb and all,

Thankyou for your esteem views.

Actually i erected two prashna chart at different intervals and got the hint for

scorpio lagna and even today i again got similar results (Navamsha technique as

taught by your good selves).

---------------------------

Today i tried new KP method in which Bhaskerji is an expert known as KP ruling

planet concept.

I erected the chart at

[Prashna Chart as per KP ayanamsha in Jhora]

October 17, 2009

Time: 15:33:05

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 75 E 49' 00 " , 26 N 55' 00 "

Jaipur, India

Ruling planet:

//One must note at time of judgement what is the prevailing Lagna Lord, Moon

Star Lord, Moon raashi lord and the Day Lord. This is known as LSRD. This is how

Bhaskerji told us which is originally the KSK method later on Lagna star lord is

also added by his followers//

LSRD is Sa, Mer, Mo, Sa.

//There is a rule that if Rahu or Ketu occupies the raashi of any of these

Lords, then one must change the Lord to the Nodes. Rahu is presently occupying

Capricorn owned by Saturn, therefore we write Rahu in place of Saturn and Ketu

occupying cancer so ketu in place of moon//

New ruling planet is Ra, Mer, Ke, Sa.

//If the Lagna arrived at ,has the Nakshatra Lord and the Sub Lord planet same

as in the LSRD, then it means that the recorded time is correct.//

Here in Scorpio lagna Mer and saturn is nakshatra lord and sub lord which is

same as LSRD.[We will note that even in Dhanu lagna ketu is star lord and

sublord same as LSRD.]

In another KP technique expert Sri Yogesh Raoji says Moon star lord must be sub

lord of ascendent in natal chart.: Here in scorpio lagna saturn is star lord as

moon is in Pushya and Lagna sub lord is also saturn.

With KP ayanamsha birth time will be change to 18.53.14 for scorpio lagna.

So putting two technique together , is verifying the Scorpio lagna.

-----------------------

Since yesterday and today moon is very weak in Transits so it is very much

possible to get wrong results with my prashna as i am dominated by moon in my

own chart

Thanking you,

Regards,

Vijay Goel

Jaipur.

, gopal krishna goel

<g.k.goel wrote:

>

> Dear Manoj and Vijay ji,

> I was also coming to the feeling that rising sign could

> be Scorpio.In that case he should have been married

> at least in Mercury/ Rahu.Rahu is Vargottama and placed in 7H in D-9 chart.

> Upapada is in 9H in Cancer. Mercury is 11L placed in 7H and in Cancer sign

> In D-9 Chart.

>

> As he is yet to be married , let examine the chart from Sagittarius Lagna.

> 1.AL is in 11H and Upapada in 10H ( 12H from AL). Such natives lack inherent

desire

> to marry.

> 2 Mercury is the dispositer of Rahu and Sun and Placed in 6H with LL who

> is the dispositer of Ketu.

> 3.Sun Is placeg in 7H, in my article on marriage I made an observation ,

> if Sun is in between 4 to 11 degree , such natives

> are either do not marry or their marriage do not survive.

>

> 4. When marriage is possible-Kindly observe in D-9 chart that Ketu is

vargottama

> and Mars is Bhavottama.

> He is likely to be married in Ketu/mars period.

> 5.This marriage will not survive. His secomd marriage may survive as 8H from

> upapada is occupied by Mars and Venus and second house from it ,that is

> 9H from Upapada is occupied by Jupiter and Mercury ( these planets

> will give stability to second marriage.

> 6.As Venus is in debility in D-9 chart and with Rahu, He will make up after

> initial missunderstanding with the second spouge.

>

> Other indications are more or less common with both Lagna, still

> scorpion's are of some special breed.

> Regards,

>

> G. K. Goel

>

> address: L-409 Sarita Vihar, New Delhi - 110076

>

> tel: 011-26943689, 011-41403352,

>

> mobile: 09350311433

>

> goyalvj

> Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:36:19 +0000

> Re: predicting marriage - a live case

>

Dear Manoj ji,

>

> I agree will all the points.

>

> I see lot of passion in this chart as you have correctly mentioned the reasons

in point number 3, still have some doubt in some corner of my mind, did he had

any chances for physical relationship ?. Venus is in enemy sign in 6H

(abstaining from sex) and neecha in Navamsha. But Scorpio lagna are very

secretive and rebellious in nature so cannot be sure.

>

> Here it is Desh, Kaal, Paristhiti comes into play as you have rightly said in

point no. 4.

>

> Very nicely explained

>

> Thankyou,

>

> Best Wishes,

>

> Vijay Goel

>

> Jaipur.

>

> , Manoj Chandran

chandran_manoj@ wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Dear Vijay Ji,

>

> >

>

> > Thanks for your inputs. Your line of thinking matched mine very closely.

From my perspective let me say a few points.

>

> >

>

> > 1. It takes a LOT of affliction to deny marriage to a Scorpio Lagna native,

especially with Jupiter well placed in 7L aspecting Lagna.

>

> >

>

> > 2. 7L Venus even though has gone 12 Away to the 6H, is also conjunct LL/6L

Mars. LL and 7L combination means Native wants to be in a relationship.

>

> >

>

> > 3. Desire: There is plenty of passion and desire in the chart. Mars-Venus

conjunction is one indicator. 2L/5L in 7H is another indicator. 11L (who is a

multiplier) in 7H is another indicator. Me (who is by himself a multiplier) in

the 7H is another indicator. 7L Venus in the Navamsha of the 11L Me is another

indicator.

>

> >

>

> > 4. So from my point of view this individual will have not ONE but SEVERAL

opportunities to form relationships throughout his life. Whether he will do so

or not depends on Society, etc. However, with influence of both Saturn and Mars

on his 9L Moon, there is a good possibility of such relationships, going

forward.

>

> >

>

> > 5. The the only question left in my mind, was, is there a good chance of ONE

(or more) of those relationships fructifying as a socially accepted Bond. So, in

comes Jupiter, who has more than enough agenda and strength (although dig bala

is weak) in this Scorpio Lagna chart to ensure this. Ironically even though

Jupiter is in Enemy Venus's sign, for relationships, this may enhance that

portion.

>

> >

>

> > 6. It has also not missed my mind that looking at the Dasha sequence, Ketu

is followed by a long Venus dasha, and seing several indicators of multiple

relationships, more than one marriage is not out of the question. So I tend to

lean in that direction, quite opposite from the direction of denial of marriage.

>

> >

>

> > Regards,

>

> > -Manoj

>

> >

>

> >

>

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October 17, 2009

hahhaha......are scorpions suscepticble to secret marriage....gopal krishna goel <g.k.goel Sent: Sat, October 17, 2009 6:11:25 PMRE: Re: predicting marriage - a live case

Dear Vijay ji ,We do not know much about the person.If he has Scorpio Lagna , Moon sign Cancer andAL is placed in 11H with Rahu, the person is verysecretive and in that case , Venus and Rahu will fallin 7H in D-9 chart.One can only say , who will access his sex life.One more thing goes in favor of Scorpio Lagna.If you will consider D-10 chart . Bhovottama Rahu (which isVargottama in D-9 chart of skills) is placed in 11H. In D-1 chart. 11Lis placed in 7H.He got the excellent job in Mercury/Rahu.11H is also indicate attachment with office colleague.If one event took place why was there no attachment with female colleague? If it was only for pleasure , it may be a different issue .It is my haunch , if he is a Scorpion ,he atleast must had a secret marriage.Wish you happy Diwali.G. K. Goel From: goyalvjDate: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:11:42 +0000 Re: predicting marriage - a live case Respected Goel Saheb and all,Thankyou for your esteem views.Actually i erected two prashna chart at different intervals and got the hint for scorpio lagna and even today i again got similar results (Navamsha technique as taught by your good selves).---------------------------Today i tried new KP method in which Bhaskerji is an expert known as KP ruling planet concept.I erected the chart at [Prashna Chart as per KP ayanamsha in

Jhora] October 17, 2009Time: 15:33:05Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 75 E 49' 00", 26 N 55' 00" Jaipur, IndiaRuling planet://One must note at time of judgement what is the prevailing Lagna Lord, Moon Star Lord, Moon raashi lord and the Day Lord. This is known as LSRD. This is how Bhaskerji told us which is originally the KSK method later on Lagna star lord is also added by his followers//LSRD is Sa, Mer, Mo, Sa.//There is a rule that if Rahu or Ketu occupies the raashi of any of these Lords, then one must change the Lord to the Nodes. Rahu is presently occupying Capricorn owned by Saturn, therefore we write Rahu in place of Saturn and Ketu occupying cancer so ketu in place of moon//New ruling planet is Ra, Mer, Ke, Sa.//If

the Lagna arrived at ,has the Nakshatra Lord and the Sub Lord planet same as in the LSRD, then it means that the recorded time is correct.//Here in Scorpio lagna Mer and saturn is nakshatra lord and sub lord which is same as LSRD.[We will note that even in Dhanu lagna ketu is star lord and sublord same as LSRD.]In another KP technique expert Sri Yogesh Raoji says Moon star lord must be sub lord of ascendent in natal chart.: Here in scorpio lagna saturn is star lord as moon is in Pushya and Lagna sub lord is also saturn.With KP ayanamsha birth time will be change to 18.53.14 for scorpio lagna.So putting two technique together , is verifying the Scorpio lagna.-----------------------Since yesterday and today moon is very weak in Transits so it is very much possible to get wrong results with my prashna as i am dominated by moon in my own chart :)Thanking you,Regards,Vijay

GoelJaipur. , gopal krishna goel <g.k.goel wrote:>> > Dear Manoj and Vijay ji,> I was also coming to the feeling that rising sign could > be Scorpio.In that case he should have been married > at least in Mercury/ Rahu.Rahu is Vargottama and placed in 7H in D-9 chart. > Upapada is in 9H in Cancer. Mercury is 11L placed in 7H and in Cancer sign> In D-9 Chart.> > As he is yet to be married , let examine the chart from Sagittarius Lagna.> 1.AL is in 11H and Upapada in 10H ( 12H from AL). Such natives lack inherent desire> to marry.> 2 Mercury is the dispositer of Rahu and Sun and Placed in 6H with LL who> is the dispositer of

Ketu.> 3.Sun Is placeg in 7H, in my article on marriage I made an observation , > if Sun is in between 4 to 11 degree , such natives > are either do not marry or their marriage do not survive.> > 4. When marriage is possible-Kindly observe in D-9 chart that Ketu is vargottama> and Mars is Bhavottama.> He is likely to be married in Ketu/mars period.> 5.This marriage will not survive. His secomd marriage may survive as 8H from> upapada is occupied by Mars and Venus and second house from it ,that is > 9H from Upapada is occupied by Jupiter and Mercury ( these planets> will give stability to second marriage.> 6.As Venus is in debility in D-9 chart and with Rahu, He will make up after> initial missunderstanding with the second spouge.> > Other indications are more or less common with both Lagna, still> scorpion's are of

some special breed.> Regards,> > G. K. Goel> > > > address: L-409 Sarita Vihar, New Delhi - 110076> > tel: 011-26943689, 011-41403352, > > mobile: 09350311433> > > > > > goyalvj Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:36:19 +0000> Re: predicting marriage - a live case> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj

ji,> > > > I agree will all the points.> > > > I see lot of passion in this chart as you have correctly mentioned the reasons in point number 3, still have some doubt in some corner of my mind, did he had any chances for physical relationship ?. Venus is in enemy sign in 6H (abstaining from sex) and neecha in Navamsha. But Scorpio lagna are very secretive and rebellious in nature so cannot be sure.> > Here it is Desh, Kaal, Paristhiti comes into play as you have rightly said in point no. 4.> > > > Very nicely explained > > > > Thankyou,> > Best Wishes,> > Vijay Goel> > Jaipur.> > > > , Manoj

Chandran chandran_manoj@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Vijay Ji,> > > > > > Thanks for your inputs. Your line of thinking matched mine very closely. From my perspective let me say a few points. > > > > > > 1. It takes a LOT of affliction to deny marriage to a Scorpio Lagna native, especially with Jupiter well placed in 7L aspecting Lagna.> > > > > > 2. 7L Venus even though has gone 12 Away to the 6H, is also conjunct LL/6L Mars. LL and 7L combination means Native wants to be in a relationship.> > > > > > 3. Desire: There is plenty of passion and desire in the chart. Mars-Venus conjunction is one indicator. 2L/5L in 7H is another indicator. 11L (who is a multiplier) in 7H is another indicator. Me (who is by himself a multiplier) in the 7H is another indicator. 7L Venus in the Navamsha of the 11L

Me is another indicator.> > > > > > 4. So from my point of view this individual will have not ONE but SEVERAL opportunities to form relationships throughout his life. Whether he will do so or not depends on Society, etc. However, with influence of both Saturn and Mars on his 9L Moon, there is a good possibility of such relationships, going forward.> > > > > > 5. The the only question left in my mind, was, is there a good chance of ONE (or more) of those relationships fructifying as a socially accepted Bond. So, in comes Jupiter, who has more than enough agenda and strength (although dig bala is weak) in this Scorpio Lagna chart to ensure this. Ironically even though Jupiter is in Enemy Venus's sign, for relationships, this may enhance that portion.> > > > > > 6. It has also not missed my mind that looking at the Dasha sequence, Ketu is followed by a

long Venus dasha, and seing several indicators of multiple relationships, more than one marriage is not out of the question. So I tend to lean in that direction, quite opposite from the direction of denial of marriage.> > > > > > Regards,> > > -Manoj> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________> Great events make

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October 17, 2009

Mr. Bohra.In a way you are right, but as Ketu is Vargottama inD-9 chart , it has now become significator of marriage.( kindly refer my article on Vargottama where this such situations were discussed with examples.)Regards,G. K. Goel

From: msbohra62Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 03:24:11 +0000 Re: predicting marriage - a live case

Dear Neelamji,

In my view marriage is not promised in this chart,in Ketu Dasha period he will divert in spiritual side.

Thanks & regards,

M.S.Bohra

, Dhananjayan Brahma <abhanaya wrote:

>

> OM JUMTAKA !

> Pranams,

> Ms.Neelamguptaji,

> Udaya gatika -Lagna verification system concurs with Sagittarius Lagna [Horoscope set to Lahiri Ayanamsa & 365.25 Solar days].

> Native would get married in his Ketu AD in Ketu MD from January 2010 to June 2010 - Reasons Ketu in Chatur kendr,attained subhamsa and good vargha phalam.

> His early marriage gets postponed in Mercury[7th lord] Dasa because of its close proximity [bEdham] to Guru.

> Regards/Dhananjayan

>

> --- On Thu, 15/10/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> neelam gupta <neelamgupta07

> predicting marriage - a live case

> ""

> Thursday, 15 October, 2009, 7:27 PM

>

> Dear All,

>

> We've had enough of theory. Let us do a live exercise. I am giving below a data with some events (for confirming the lagna). Kindly predict marriage for this person. He is still unmarried.

>

> June 19, 1977/18:57 hrs/Ratlam, M.P

>

> Events:

> One elder sister (5 years elder to him), one younger brother (4 years younger to him).Studied Hotel Management

> Father is an engineer by profession and mother is a lecturer.Got a good professional break and moved to Mumbai in December 2004Moved to a foreign country for doing an MBA in August 31, 2007

>

> Please use whatever method you want, but give your reasons. Since the event is yet to happen, the exercise would help us to know how everyone would read a future event and whether there are some common readings.

> Let me also tell you that the lagna is on sandhi. Events are given. Please feel free to use your methods of correction, your favourite ayanamsha, divisions, divisional charts, etc.

>

> Hope all learned members would participate.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

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October 17, 2009

Supsectible to secret marriages is going too far on these poor creatures

whio are not satisfied with love from a single partner who cannot

satisfy their cravings for sex and wealth unlimited... They are more

supsectible to having extra marital flings and when get caught try to

legalise it and show themselves as clear and pure...........specially

the female species.

, Manoj Kumar

<mouji99 wrote:

>

> hahhaha......are scorpions suscepticble to secret marriage....

________________________________

> gopal krishna goel g.k.goel

>

> Sat, October 17, 2009 6:11:25 PM

> RE: Re: predicting marriage - a

live case

>

> Dear Vijay ji ,

> We do not know much about the person.

> If he has Scorpio Lagna , Moon sign Cancer and

> AL is placed in 11H with Rahu, the person is very

> secretive and in that case , Venus and Rahu will fall

> in 7H in D-9 chart.

> One can only say , who will access his sex life.

> One more thing goes in favor of Scorpio Lagna.

> If you will consider D-10 chart . Bhovottama Rahu (which is

> Vargottama in D-9 chart of skills) is placed in 11H. In D-1 chart. 11L

> is placed in 7H.He got the excellent job in Mercury/Rahu.

> 11H is also indicate attachment with office colleague.If one

> event took place why was there no attachment with female colleague?

> If it was only for pleasure , it may be a different issue .

> It is my haunch , if he is a Scorpion ,he atleast must had a secret

marriage.

>

> Wish you happy Diwali.

>

> G. K. Goel

>

> goyalvj

> Sat, 17 Oct 2009 11:11:42 +0000

> Re: predicting marriage - a live

case

>

Respected Goel Saheb and all,

>

> Thankyou for your esteem views.

>

> Actually i erected two prashna chart at different intervals and got

the hint for scorpio lagna and even today i again got similar results

(Navamsha technique as taught by your good selves).

>

> ---------------------------

>

> Today i tried new KP method in which Bhaskerji is an expert known as

KP ruling planet concept.

> I erected the chart at

> [Prashna Chart as per KP ayanamsha in Jhora]

> October 17, 2009

> Time: 15:33:05

> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 75 E 49' 00 " , 26 N 55' 00 "

> Jaipur, India

>

> Ruling planet:

> //One must note at time of judgement what is the prevailing Lagna

Lord, Moon Star Lord, Moon raashi lord and the Day Lord. This is known

as LSRD. This is how Bhaskerji told us which is originally the KSK

method later on Lagna star lord is also added by his followers//

>

> LSRD is Sa, Mer, Mo, Sa.

>

> //There is a rule that if Rahu or Ketu occupies the raashi of any of

these Lords, then one must change the Lord to the Nodes. Rahu is

presently occupying Capricorn owned by Saturn, therefore we write Rahu

in place of Saturn and Ketu occupying cancer so ketu in place of moon//

>

> New ruling planet is Ra, Mer, Ke, Sa.

>

> //If the Lagna arrived at ,has the Nakshatra Lord and the Sub Lord

planet same as in the LSRD, then it means that the recorded time is

correct.//

> Here in Scorpio lagna Mer and saturn is nakshatra lord and sub lord

which is same as LSRD.[We will note that even in Dhanu lagna ketu is

star lord and sublord same as LSRD.]

>

> In another KP technique expert Sri Yogesh Raoji says Moon star lord

must be sub lord of ascendent in natal chart.: Here in scorpio lagna

saturn is star lord as moon is in Pushya and Lagna sub lord is also

saturn.

>

> With KP ayanamsha birth time will be change to 18.53.14 for scorpio

lagna.

>

> So putting two technique together , is verifying the Scorpio lagna.

>

> -----------------------

>

> Since yesterday and today moon is very weak in Transits so it is very

much possible to get wrong results with my prashna as i am dominated by

moon in my own chart

>

> Thanking you,

> Regards,

> Vijay Goel

> Jaipur.

>

> , gopal krishna goel

g.k.goel@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Manoj and Vijay ji,

> > I was also coming to the feeling that rising sign could

> > be Scorpio.In that case he should have been married

> > at least in Mercury/ Rahu.Rahu is Vargottama and placed in 7H in D-9

chart.

> > Upapada is in 9H in Cancer. Mercury is 11L placed in 7H and in

Cancer sign

> > In D-9 Chart.

> >

> > As he is yet to be married , let examine the chart from Sagittarius

Lagna.

> > 1.AL is in 11H and Upapada in 10H ( 12H from AL). Such natives lack

inherent desire

> > to marry.

> > 2 Mercury is the dispositer of Rahu and Sun and Placed in 6H with LL

who

> > is the dispositer of Ketu.

> > 3.Sun Is placeg in 7H, in my article on marriage I made an

observation ,

> > if Sun is in between 4 to 11 degree , such natives

> > are either do not marry or their marriage do not survive.

> >

> > 4. When marriage is possible-Kindly observe in D-9 chart that Ketu

is vargottama

> > and Mars is Bhavottama.

> > He is likely to be married in Ketu/mars period.

> > 5.This marriage will not survive. His secomd marriage may survive as

8H from

> > upapada is occupied by Mars and Venus and second house from it ,that

is

> > 9H from Upapada is occupied by Jupiter and Mercury ( these planets

> > will give stability to second marriage.

> > 6.As Venus is in debility in D-9 chart and with Rahu, He will make

up after

> > initial missunderstanding with the second spouge.

> >

> > Other indications are more or less common with both Lagna, still

> > scorpion's are of some special breed.

> > Regards,

> >

> > G. K. Goel

> >

> > address: L-409 Sarita Vihar, New Delhi - 110076

> >

> > tel: 011-26943689, 011-41403352,

> >

> > mobile: 09350311433

> >

> > goyalvj@

> > Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:36:19 +0000

> > Re: predicting marriage - a live

case

> >

> > Dear Manoj ji,

> >

> > I agree will all the points.

> >

> > I see lot of passion in this chart as you have correctly mentioned

the reasons in point number 3, still have some doubt in some corner of

my mind, did he had any chances for physical relationship ?. Venus is in

enemy sign in 6H (abstaining from sex) and neecha in Navamsha. But

Scorpio lagna are very secretive and rebellious in nature so cannot be

sure.

> >

> > Here it is Desh, Kaal, Paristhiti comes into play as you have

rightly said in point no. 4.

> >

> > Very nicely explained

> >

> > Thankyou,

> >

> > Best Wishes,

> >

> > Vijay Goel

> >

> > Jaipur.

> >

> > , Manoj Chandran

chandran_manoj@ wrote:

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Dear Vijay Ji,

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Thanks for your inputs. Your line of thinking matched mine very

closely. From my perspective let me say a few points.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > 1. It takes a LOT of affliction to deny marriage to a Scorpio

Lagna native, especially with Jupiter well placed in 7L aspecting Lagna.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > 2. 7L Venus even though has gone 12 Away to the 6H, is also

conjunct LL/6L Mars. LL and 7L combination means Native wants to be in a

relationship.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > 3. Desire: There is plenty of passion and desire in the chart.

Mars-Venus conjunction is one indicator. 2L/5L in 7H is another

indicator. 11L (who is a multiplier) in 7H is another indicator. Me (who

is by himself a multiplier) in the 7H is another indicator. 7L Venus in

the Navamsha of the 11L Me is another indicator.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > 4. So from my point of view this individual will have not ONE but

SEVERAL opportunities to form relationships throughout his life. Whether

he will do so or not depends on Society, etc. However, with influence of

both Saturn and Mars on his 9L Moon, there is a good possibility of such

relationships, going forward.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > 5. The the only question left in my mind, was, is there a good

chance of ONE (or more) of those relationships fructifying as a socially

accepted Bond. So, in comes Jupiter, who has more than enough agenda and

strength (although dig bala is weak) in this Scorpio Lagna chart to

ensure this. Ironically even though Jupiter is in Enemy Venus's sign,

for relationships, this may enhance that portion.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > 6. It has also not missed my mind that looking at the Dasha

sequence, Ketu is followed by a long Venus dasha, and seing several

indicators of multiple relationships, more than one marriage is not out

of the question. So I tend to lean in that direction, quite opposite

from the direction of denial of marriage.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Regards,

> >

> > > -Manoj

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > _______________

> > Great events make grand headlines ï¿½ read them all on MSN India

> > http://in.msn.com

> >

>

_______________

> Feel the heat of news, the thrill of sports, the dazzle of Bollywood

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October 17, 2009

Dear Gopi Ji,

1. Both MO and ven(7thL as well) are under full influence of sat(like in my case)

Influence of Sat on Venus is not as strong as in your chart. In your chart Satrun is aspecting Venus while sitting in Venus's Rashi, Libra, which is also the 7H of the Kala Purush. Hence in your case Sat has double influence on Venus's affairs. Here Saturn is aspecting Venus from Cancer. So same strong influence is not there. But, yes, he does influence Moon quite strongly.

Also remember while Mars might be the 6L he is also the Lagna Lord.

Also remember the dictum, Jupiter in Lagna will solve 100,000 belimshes in the chart. Here an auspicious Jupiter IS in the important Lagna (7th house).

If you still have doubts if Jupiter for Scorpio lagna can deliver, just look at the following data for an Individual I know:

Scorpio Lagna

7L Venus in 8H, conjunct 6L Mars

8L Mer in 7H, Sun in 7H

Deb Saturn in 6H

Jupiter in 12H

Rahu in 4H

So Venus is hammered by 6L Ma, Deb Sa from 6H, Rahu from 4H.

7H hosts 8L Me and Separator Sun.

So all separative planets are influencing 7L or 7H.

5L Jupiter gave marriage that has been sustained for 15 years.

Never underestimate the power of a Jupiter that is auspicious.

Ofcourse you know the person I am talking about is my own self.

Regards,

-Manoj

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