predicting marriage - a live case

[Guest guest]

Dear Neelamji

As compared to Mr. , even in this example I can

use the steps I follow which tells me about denial of marriage/Marital

disharmony.

In this gentlemen’s case also we can see 12th

house lord mars conjunct 6th house lord venus in aries , and mars

have 8th aspect on 12th house.

Using sudarshan chakra 12th & 6th

house lords from Moon Mercury & Jupiter are also conjunct in natal sixth

house and aspecting natal 12th house.

12th & 6th house lords from sun

are again venus & mars which are conjunct in 5th natal house in aries and mars aspecting natal

12th house.

I believe this are points which is delaying the gentlemen’s

marriage, and it could lead to no marriage.

Besides that 7th lord mercury is in 12th

house from its house ( Denial Factor)

Both female planet moon & venus are under joint malefic

effect of mars and Saturn( as mentioned in Mr. case joint effect

of mars and Saturn on house or planet can give ill luck in matters ruled my

house and planet.)

I am little inept at the moment find marriage date. Amit Desaineelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Thu, October 15, 2009 7:27:08 PM

predicting marriage - a live case

 

 

Dear All,We've had enough of theory. Let us do a live exercise. I am giving below a data with some events (for confirming the lagna). Kindly predict marriage for this person. He is still unmarried.

June 19, 1977/18:57 hrs/Ratlam, M.PEvents:One elder sister (5 years elder to him), one younger brother (4 years younger to him).Studied Hotel Management

Father is an engineer by profession and mother is a lecturer.Got a good professional break and moved to Mumbai in December 2004Moved to a foreign country for doing an MBA in August 31, 2007

Please use whatever method you want, but give your reasons. Since the event is yet to happen, the exercise would help us to know how everyone would read a future event and whether there are some common readings. Let me also tell you that the lagna is on sandhi. Events are given. Please feel free to use your methods of correction, your favourite ayanamsha, divisions, divisional charts, etc.

Hope all learned members would participate. RegardsNeelam

[Guest guest]

There is a rule which Gurus mention, though may not be mentioned in the

texts . One should not talk of negatives in matters such as marriage or

health or such, unless one is questioned about the same and has been

asked, otherwise the native will leave more dissapointed than before.

Stick to answering what has been asked of.

 

Especially in case of marriage, if an astrologer gives the date of

marriage and next tells the native that " your marriage would not be

happy, normal or compatible " , then the whole purpose of astrology is

shattered and so are his hopes of living a happily married Life ahead. .

We are here to guide the people who come to us and not make them more

unhappy and sad.

 

This is just like a student whom comes to ask you whether " I will pass

in the exam " . Even if we know he will fail, do not tell him so, because

you are interfering with his Law of Karma, and making him karmaheena and

he would now loose hope and stop studying thinking that " I am going to

fail so whats the use of studying " . Just tell him " I cannot tell you

now, first you study well, sit for the exam papers and then come to me

" .

 

In the case of Neelamji 's example, how do we know that the chart is of

someone not closely related to her ? If yes, then what feelers are we

sending to her ?

 

best wishes,

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

, amit desai

<amitwho wrote:

>

> Dear Neelamji

> As compared to Mr. , even in this example I can

> use the steps I follow which tells me about denial of marriage/Marital

> disharmony.

> In this gentlemen’s case also we can see 12th house lord mars

conjunct 6th house lord venus in aries , and mars

> have 8th aspect on 12th house.

> Using sudarshan chakra 12th & 6th house lords from Moon Mercury &

Jupiter are also conjunct in natal sixth

> house and aspecting natal 12th house.

> 12th & 6th house lords from sun

> are again venus & mars which are conjunct in 5th natal house in aries

and mars aspecting natal

> 12th house.

> I believe this are points which is delaying the gentlemen’s

> marriage, and it could lead to no marriage.

> Besides that 7th lord mercury is in 12th house from its house ( Denial

Factor)

> Both female planet moon & venus are under joint malefic

> effect of mars and Saturn( as mentioned in Mr. case joint

effect

> of mars and Saturn on house or planet can give ill luck in matters

ruled my

> house and planet.)

> I am little inept at the moment find marriage date. Amit Desai

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> neelam gupta neelamgupta07

>

> Thu, October 15, 2009 7:27:08 PM

> predicting marriage - a live case

>

>

> Dear All,

>

> We've had enough of theory. Let us do a live exercise. I am giving

below a data with some events (for confirming the lagna). Kindly predict

marriage for this person. He is still unmarried.

>

> June 19, 1977/18:57 hrs/Ratlam, M.P

>

> Events:

>

> * One elder sister (5 years elder to him), one younger brother (4

years younger to him).

> * Studied Hotel Management

> * Father is an engineer by profession and mother is a lecturer.

> * Got a good professional break and moved to Mumbai in December 2004

> * Moved to a foreign country for doing an MBA in August 31, 2007

> Please use whatever method you want, but give your reasons. Since the

event is yet to happen, the exercise would help us to know how everyone

would read a future event and whether there are some common readings.

> Let me also tell you that the lagna is on sandhi. Events are given.

Please feel free to use your methods of correction, your favourite

ayanamsha, divisions, divisional charts, etc.

>

> Hope all learned members would participate.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Neelam ji,

 

there is a strong chance for him to get married this year itself between

7th to 16th November or near around 27th December.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

 

, neelam gupta

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> We've had enough of theory. Let us do a live exercise. I am giving

below a

> data with some events (for confirming the lagna). Kindly predict

marriage

> for this person. He is still unmarried.

>

> *June 19, 1977/18:57 hrs/Ratlam, M.P*

>

> Events:

>

> - One elder sister (5 years elder to him), one younger brother (4

years

> younger to him).

> - Studied Hotel Management

> - Father is an engineer by profession and mother is a lecturer.

> - Got a good professional break and moved to Mumbai in December 2004

> - Moved to a foreign country for doing an MBA in August 31, 2007

>

>

> Please use whatever method you want, but give your reasons. Since the

event

> is yet to happen, the exercise would help us to know how everyone

would read

> a future event and whether there are some common readings.

> Let me also tell you that the lagna is on sandhi. Events are given.

Please

> feel free to use your methods of correction, your favourite ayanamsha,

> divisions, divisional charts, etc.

>

> Hope all learned members would participate.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Neelam ji,

This seems to be interesting - even though he is still unmarried.

I am very poor in timing anything - but still I will have a try with

the minimum tools I have. Since I am still experimenting with 360 deg

solar year and 360 days savana year, in this exercise I will use Surya

Siddhanta Ayanamsa (Chandrahari Ayanamsa) and 360 days savana year.

Since there is an exchange between Lagna lord Moon and 7th lord Saturn

it is certain that he will enjoy the benefits of 7th house - so this

chart does promise marriage I believe. The current Dasa running is

Rahu=>Venus=>Saturn.

 

Vimsottari Dasa:

=> Rah MD: 1996-02-28 (16:33:05) - 2013-11-25 (16:33:05)

=>=> Ven AD: 2007-07-18 (16:33:05) - 2010-07-02 (16:33:05)

=>=>=> Sat: 2009-06-10 (16:33:05) - 2009-11-28 (16:33:05)

 

* Looking from Lagna Rahu is in 4th (Rahu supports marriage), Venus in

8th (supports marriage), and Saturn the 7th lord is in Lagna (supports

marriage).

* Looking from Moon Rahu is in 10th (Rahu supports marriage), Venus is

in 2nd (supports marriage) and Saturn is in 7th (even though Saturn in

7th is not good, here the mutual exchange reverses the situation)

Now considering Vimsottari dasa from Lagna sputa, the current Dasa

running is Venus=>Rahu=>Venus.

Vimsottari Dasa:

 

=> Ven MD: 2000-08-23 (20:57:31) - 2020-05-10 (20:57:31)

=>=> Rah AD: 2007-09-16 (20:57:31) - 2010-08-31 (20:57:31)

=>=>=> Ven: 2009-08-09 (20:57:31) - 2010-02-05 (20:57:31)

 

* Venus placed in 8th house (supports marriage), Rahu in 4th house

(supports marriage) and Venus the significator of marriage (supports

marriage).

 

The current time itself seems to be very proper for proposals and

marriage. By any chance is it true that the marriage is already fixed?

With Lagna placed, Saturn's navamsa in 7th (from natal lagna) ; and

lagna lord Moon placed in 7th with its navama on 8th; and Venus placed

in 8th and becoming the depositor for Rahu; Rahu aspecting Venus (is we

consider Rahu aspect) with its 5th aspect - it seems that all the

planets involved (i.e. Saturn, Rahu, Venus, Moon) seems to be well

connected.

 

Looking at the results -

Foreign journey, Staying in relatives house (Rahu in 4th) ; Generally

good but trouble related to wife and marriage (Venus in 8th);

non-suitable wife (Saturn in lagna) ; Good wife but distant journey and

seperation due to that to native (lagna lord in 7th); will make own

house with own effort (4th lord in 8th); interested and affectionate

towards own wife alone (7th lord in lagna) .

Yes, the results seems to point to positive results. Yes, time is

proper for him to get married it seems.

A direct connection between 5th and 7th is not visible - so possibly

not a love marriage; but with that lagna lord and 7th lord exchange we

cannot be certain on anything!

 

So in short if some one with such a chart comes to me, I will

certainly say, " time is proper for marriage, try your best and it could

possibly happen before Feb 2010, if you try " .

 

Since Venus is in 8th, I will ask him to light lamps in godess temple,

and to do swayam vara pushpanjali worship (done in temples) - as

remedial measure, to ward of obstacles hindering marriage.

 

Note:

* The process of analysis, consulation, and guidance may help the

native to certain extend or may not - but once this prime analysis and

guidance is given, then nothing is under my control.

* The whole above process of analysis and recommendation may take

around 30 min of my time, and I won't spend more time on his horoscope

(if it was intimated to me then or later that - there is more troubles

happening or that the prediction is not coming true). If so intimated,

then at that time, I will get down to a more detailed anaysis

considering the various sputas etc. But for the current setting, I will

wind up my prediction and close the horoscope and will ask the native to

go and search for his spouse, if not already located.

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

 

, neelam gupta

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> We've had enough of theory. Let us do a live exercise. I am giving

below a

> data with some events (for confirming the lagna). Kindly predict

marriage

> for this person. He is still unmarried.

>

> *June 19, 1977/18:57 hrs/Ratlam, M.P*

>

> Events:

>

> - One elder sister (5 years elder to him), one younger brother (4

years

> younger to him).

> - Studied Hotel Management

> - Father is an engineer by profession and mother is a lecturer.

> - Got a good professional break and moved to Mumbai in December

2004

> - Moved to a foreign country for doing an MBA in August 31, 2007

>

>

> Please use whatever method you want, but give your reasons. Since the

event

> is yet to happen, the exercise would help us to know how everyone

would read

> a future event and whether there are some common readings.

> Let me also tell you that the lagna is on sandhi. Events are given.

Please

> feel free to use your methods of correction, your favourite ayanamsha,

> divisions, divisional charts, etc.

>

> Hope all learned members would participate.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sreenadh ji,I think there's some mistake. You have taken Cancer Lagna.This is a sandhi between Sagi and scorpio. That is why I had also given the events in case one wanted to go for correcting the chart.

Kindly check! I know you'd made a huge effort:-(RegardsNeelam2009/10/15 sreesog <sreesog

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Neelam ji,

This seems to be interesting - even though he is still unmarried.

I am very poor in timing anything - but still I will have a try with

the minimum tools I have. Since I am still experimenting with 360 deg

solar year and 360 days savana year, in this exercise I will use Surya

Siddhanta Ayanamsa (Chandrahari Ayanamsa) and 360 days savana year.

Since there is an exchange between Lagna lord Moon and 7th lord Saturn

it is certain that he will enjoy the benefits of 7th house - so this

chart does promise marriage I believe. The current Dasa running is

Rahu=>Venus=>Saturn.

 

Vimsottari Dasa:

=> Rah MD: 1996-02-28 (16:33:05) - 2013-11-25 (16:33:05)

=>=> Ven AD: 2007-07-18 (16:33:05) - 2010-07-02 (16:33:05)

=>=>=> Sat: 2009-06-10 (16:33:05) - 2009-11-28 (16:33:05)

 

* Looking from Lagna Rahu is in 4th (Rahu supports marriage), Venus in

8th (supports marriage), and Saturn the 7th lord is in Lagna (supports

marriage).

* Looking from Moon Rahu is in 10th (Rahu supports marriage), Venus is

in 2nd (supports marriage) and Saturn is in 7th (even though Saturn in

7th is not good, here the mutual exchange reverses the situation)

Now considering Vimsottari dasa from Lagna sputa, the current Dasa

running is Venus=>Rahu=>Venus.

Vimsottari Dasa:

 

=> Ven MD: 2000-08-23 (20:57:31) - 2020-05-10 (20:57:31)

=>=> Rah AD: 2007-09-16 (20:57:31) - 2010-08-31 (20:57:31)

=>=>=> Ven: 2009-08-09 (20:57:31) - 2010-02-05 (20:57:31)

 

* Venus placed in 8th house (supports marriage), Rahu in 4th house

(supports marriage) and Venus the significator of marriage (supports

marriage).

 

The current time itself seems to be very proper for proposals and

marriage. By any chance is it true that the marriage is already fixed?

With Lagna placed, Saturn's navamsa in 7th (from natal lagna) ; and

lagna lord Moon placed in 7th with its navama on 8th; and Venus placed

in 8th and becoming the depositor for Rahu; Rahu aspecting Venus (is we

consider Rahu aspect) with its 5th aspect - it seems that all the

planets involved (i.e. Saturn, Rahu, Venus, Moon) seems to be well

connected.

 

Looking at the results -

Foreign journey, Staying in relatives house (Rahu in 4th) ; Generally

good but trouble related to wife and marriage (Venus in 8th);

non-suitable wife (Saturn in lagna) ; Good wife but distant journey and

seperation due to that to native (lagna lord in 7th); will make own

house with own effort (4th lord in 8th); interested and affectionate

towards own wife alone (7th lord in lagna) .

Yes, the results seems to point to positive results. Yes, time is

proper for him to get married it seems.

A direct connection between 5th and 7th is not visible - so possibly

not a love marriage; but with that lagna lord and 7th lord exchange we

cannot be certain on anything!

 

So in short if some one with such a chart comes to me, I will

certainly say, " time is proper for marriage, try your best and it could

possibly happen before Feb 2010, if you try " .

 

Since Venus is in 8th, I will ask him to light lamps in godess temple,

and to do swayam vara pushpanjali worship (done in temples) - as

remedial measure, to ward of obstacles hindering marriage.

 

Note:

* The process of analysis, consulation, and guidance may help the

native to certain extend or may not - but once this prime analysis and

guidance is given, then nothing is under my control.

* The whole above process of analysis and recommendation may take

around 30 min of my time, and I won't spend more time on his horoscope

(if it was intimated to me then or later that - there is more troubles

happening or that the prediction is not coming true). If so intimated,

then at that time, I will get down to a more detailed anaysis

considering the various sputas etc. But for the current setting, I will

wind up my prediction and close the horoscope and will ask the native to

go and search for his spouse, if not already located.

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

 

, neelam gupta

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> We've had enough of theory. Let us do a live exercise. I am giving

below a

> data with some events (for confirming the lagna). Kindly predict

marriage

> for this person. He is still unmarried.

>

> *June 19, 1977/18:57 hrs/Ratlam, M.P*

>

> Events:

>

> - One elder sister (5 years elder to him), one younger brother (4

years

> younger to him).

> - Studied Hotel Management

> - Father is an engineer by profession and mother is a lecturer.

> - Got a good professional break and moved to Mumbai in December

2004

> - Moved to a foreign country for doing an MBA in August 31, 2007

>

>

> Please use whatever method you want, but give your reasons. Since the

event

> is yet to happen, the exercise would help us to know how everyone

would read

> a future event and whether there are some common readings.

> Let me also tell you that the lagna is on sandhi. Events are given.

Please

> feel free to use your methods of correction, your favourite ayanamsha,

> divisions, divisional charts, etc.

>

> Hope all learned members would participate.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskar ji,Thanks for your reading. Hope it comes true.RegardsNeelam

[Guest guest]

Dear Amit ji,Thanks for your reading. Sorry, I was not keeping track of 's chart, but I do not understand why 12th connection should be so detrimental to marriage. Everyone knows about the importance of 12H for marriage. Also, many a times mars+venus gives an early marriage , They are natural 1/7 lords after all.

RegardsNeelam2009/10/15 amit desai <amitwho

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Neelamji

As compared to Mr. , even in this example I can

use the steps I follow which tells me about denial of marriage/Marital

disharmony.

In this gentlemen’s case also we can see 12th

house lord mars conjunct 6th house lord venus in aries , and mars

have 8th aspect on 12th house.

Using sudarshan chakra 12th & 6th

house lords from Moon Mercury & Jupiter are also conjunct in natal sixth

house and aspecting natal 12th house.

12th & 6th house lords from sun

are again venus & mars which are conjunct in 5th  natal house in aries and mars aspecting natal

12th house.

I believe this are points which is delaying the gentlemen’s

marriage, and it could lead to no marriage.

Besides that 7th lord mercury is in 12th

house from its house ( Denial Factor)

Both female planet moon & venus are under joint malefic

effect of mars and Saturn( as mentioned in Mr. case joint effect

of mars and Saturn on house or planet can give ill luck in matters ruled my

house and planet.)

I am little inept at the moment find marriage date.  Amit Desai

 

neelam gupta <neelamgupta07

Thu, October 15, 2009 7:27:08 PM

predicting marriage - a live case

 

 

Dear All,We've had enough of theory. Let us do a live exercise. I am giving below a data with some events (for confirming the lagna). Kindly predict marriage for this person. He is still unmarried.

June 19, 1977/18:57 hrs/Ratlam, M.PEvents:One elder sister (5 years elder to him), one younger brother (4 years younger to him).Studied Hotel Management

Father is an engineer by profession and mother is a lecturer.Got a good professional break and moved to Mumbai in December 2004Moved to a foreign country for doing an MBA in August 31, 2007

Please use whatever method you want, but give your reasons. Since the event is yet to happen, the exercise would help us to know how everyone would read a future event and whether there are some common readings.

Let me also tell you that the lagna is on sandhi. Events are given. Please feel free to use your methods of correction, your favourite ayanamsha, divisions, divisional charts, etc.

Hope all learned members would participate. RegardsNeelam

[Guest guest]

Dear BhaskarjiI toatlly agree with you that as an astrologer we should not be upfront and blunt to tell the subject about our finidings and make them more miserable rather than comforting them and helping them with solution.i submitted my views in forum for cross learning, without realising that the example could be a relative of the group member.well this is a learning for me from your experience.with best regards Amit DesaiBhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Thu, October 15, 2009 9:21:03 PM Re: predicting marriage - a live case

 

 

 

There is a rule which Gurus mention, though may not be mentioned in the

texts . One should not talk of negatives in matters such as marriage or

health or such, unless one is questioned about the same and has been

asked, otherwise the native will leave more dissapointed than before.

Stick to answering what has been asked of.

 

Especially in case of marriage, if an astrologer gives the date of

marriage and next tells the native that "your marriage would not be

happy, normal or compatible", then the whole purpose of astrology is

shattered and so are his hopes of living a happily married Life ahead. .

We are here to guide the people who come to us and not make them more

unhappy and sad.

 

This is just like a student whom comes to ask you whether "I will pass

in the exam". Even if we know he will fail, do not tell him so, because

you are interfering with his Law of Karma, and making him karmaheena and

he would now loose hope and stop studying thinking that "I am going to

fail so whats the use of studying". Just tell him " I cannot tell you

now, first you study well, sit for the exam papers and then come to me

".

 

In the case of Neelamji 's example, how do we know that the chart is of

someone not closely related to her ? If yes, then what feelers are we

sending to her ?

 

best wishes,

 

Bhaskar.

 

ancient_indian_ astrology, amit desai

<amitwho > wrote:

>

> Dear Neelamji

> As compared to Mr. , even in this example I can

> use the steps I follow which tells me about denial of marriage/Marital

> disharmony.

> In this gentlemen’s case also we can see 12th house lord mars

conjunct 6th house lord venus in aries , and mars

> have 8th aspect on 12th house.

> Using sudarshan chakra 12th & 6th house lords from Moon Mercury &

Jupiter are also conjunct in natal sixth

> house and aspecting natal 12th house.

> 12th & 6th house lords from sun

> are again venus & mars which are conjunct in 5th natal house in aries

and mars aspecting natal

> 12th house.

> I believe this are points which is delaying the gentlemen’s

> marriage, and it could lead to no marriage.

> Besides that 7th lord mercury is in 12th house from its house ( Denial

Factor)

> Both female planet moon & venus are under joint malefic

> effect of mars and Saturn( as mentioned in Mr. case joint

effect

> of mars and Saturn on house or planet can give ill luck in matters

ruled my

> house and planet.)

> I am little inept at the moment find marriage date. Amit Desai

>

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ ...

> ancient_indian_ astrology ancient_indian_ astrology

> Thu, October 15, 2009 7:27:08 PM

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] predicting marriage - a live case

>

>

> Dear All,

>

> We've had enough of theory. Let us do a live exercise. I am giving

below a data with some events (for confirming the lagna). Kindly predict

marriage for this person. He is still unmarried.

>

> June 19, 1977/18:57 hrs/Ratlam, M.P

>

> Events:

>

> * One elder sister (5 years elder to him), one younger brother (4

years younger to him).

> * Studied Hotel Management

> * Father is an engineer by profession and mother is a lecturer.

> * Got a good professional break and moved to Mumbai in December 2004

> * Moved to a foreign country for doing an MBA in August 31, 2007

> Please use whatever method you want, but give your reasons. Since the

event is yet to happen, the exercise would help us to know how everyone

would read a future event and whether there are some common readings.

> Let me also tell you that the lagna is on sandhi. Events are given.

Please feel free to use your methods of correction, your favourite

ayanamsha, divisions, divisional charts, etc.

>

> Hope all learned members would participate.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

 

 

[Guest guest]

I think, marriage talks are already going on, it will take place when Guru will

move to Kumbha, most probably, going to happen by/before Mid Jan2010.

 

regards,

Utkal.

 

, neelam gupta

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> We've had enough of theory. Let us do a live exercise. I am giving below a

> data with some events (for confirming the lagna). Kindly predict marriage

> for this person. He is still unmarried.

>

> *June 19, 1977/18:57 hrs/Ratlam, M.P*

>

> Events:

>

> - One elder sister (5 years elder to him), one younger brother (4 years

> younger to him).

> - Studied Hotel Management

> - Father is an engineer by profession and mother is a lecturer.

> - Got a good professional break and moved to Mumbai in December 2004

> - Moved to a foreign country for doing an MBA in August 31, 2007

>

>

> Please use whatever method you want, but give your reasons. Since the event

> is yet to happen, the exercise would help us to know how everyone would read

> a future event and whether there are some common readings.

> Let me also tell you that the lagna is on sandhi. Events are given. Please

> feel free to use your methods of correction, your favourite ayanamsha,

> divisions, divisional charts, etc.

>

> Hope all learned members would participate.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Neelamjiwell as 12th house is house of denial in general. So what i am doing here is taking 12th house from 7th, i.e 6th house which can deny 7th house related matter.(In this case marriage). So when i see strong association of this 2 houses i.e 12th and 6th of natal chart in matter of marriage we can see denial/delay/disharmony in marriage matters.This are just few simplified steps i try to follow, the logic i follwed here is if natal 12th house is denial in general than 12th house from 7th i.e is 6th house if associated with natal 12th, than this 2 houses of denial can lead to denial related to 7th house matter.i hope i am able justify my steps.with best

reagrds Amit Desaineelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Sent: Thu, October 15, 2009 10:36:35 PMRe: predicting marriage - a live case

 

 

Dear Amit ji,Thanks for your reading. Sorry, I was not keeping track of 's chart, but I do not understand why 12th connection should be so detrimental to marriage. Everyone knows about the importance of 12H for marriage. Also, many a times mars+venus gives an early marriage , They are natural 1/7 lords after all.

RegardsNeelam2009/10/15 amit desai <amitwho >

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Neelamji

As compared to Mr. , even in this example I can

use the steps I follow which tells me about denial of marriage/Marital

disharmony.

In this gentlemen’s case also we can see 12th

house lord mars conjunct 6th house lord venus in aries , and mars

have 8th aspect on 12th house.

Using sudarshan chakra 12th & 6th

house lords from Moon Mercury & Jupiter are also conjunct in natal sixth

house and aspecting natal 12th house.

12th & 6th house lords from sun

are again venus & mars which are conjunct in 5th natal house in aries and mars aspecting natal

12th house.

I believe this are points which is delaying the gentlemen’s

marriage, and it could lead to no marriage.

Besides that 7th lord mercury is in 12th

house from its house ( Denial Factor)

Both female planet moon & venus are under joint malefic

effect of mars and Saturn( as mentioned in Mr. case joint effect

of mars and Saturn on house or planet can give ill luck in matters ruled my

house and planet.)

I am little inept at the moment find marriage date. Amit Desai

 

neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>ancient_indian_ astrology <ancient_indian_ astrology>

Thu, October 15, 2009 7:27:08 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology]

predicting marriage - a live case

 

 

Dear All,We've had enough of theory. Let us do a live exercise. I am giving below a data with some events (for confirming the lagna). Kindly predict marriage for this person. He is still unmarried.

June 19, 1977/18:57 hrs/Ratlam, M.PEvents:One elder sister (5 years elder to him), one younger brother (4 years younger to him).Studied Hotel Management

Father is an engineer by profession and mother is a lecturer.Got a good professional break and moved to Mumbai in December 2004Moved to a foreign country for doing an MBA in August 31, 2007

Please use whatever method you want, but give your reasons. Since the event is yet to happen, the exercise would help us to know how everyone would read a future event and whether there are some common readings.

Let me also tell you that the lagna is on sandhi. Events are given. Please feel free to use your methods of correction, your favourite ayanamsha, divisions, divisional charts, etc.

Hope all learned members would participate. RegardsNeelam

[Guest guest]

Dear All,Please understand that the aim of this exercise is to share our techniques for predicting marriage. We are not looking for a prediction for the native, but for a technique through which a successful prediction was made.

I request that all participants share their respective methods for timing of marriage.I would also request Goel ji and Pathi ji to share their experience with us show us how to read this chart for marriage.

RegardsNeelam2009/10/15 utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi

 

 

 

 

 

I think, marriage talks are already going on, it will take place when Guru will move to Kumbha, most probably, going to happen by/before Mid Jan2010.

 

regards,

Utkal.

 

, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> We've had enough of theory. Let us do a live exercise. I am giving below a

> data with some events (for confirming the lagna). Kindly predict marriage

> for this person. He is still unmarried.

>

> *June 19, 1977/18:57 hrs/Ratlam, M.P*

>

> Events:

>

> - One elder sister (5 years elder to him), one younger brother (4 years

> younger to him).

> - Studied Hotel Management

> - Father is an engineer by profession and mother is a lecturer.

> - Got a good professional break and moved to Mumbai in December 2004

> - Moved to a foreign country for doing an MBA in August 31, 2007

>

>

> Please use whatever method you want, but give your reasons. Since the event

> is yet to happen, the exercise would help us to know how everyone would read

> a future event and whether there are some common readings.

> Let me also tell you that the lagna is on sandhi. Events are given. Please

> feel free to use your methods of correction, your favourite ayanamsha,

> divisions, divisional charts, etc.

>

> Hope all learned members would participate.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Amit ji,

 

Of course I know you are innocent and had in mind cross learning and

exchange of technicals. By the way you were right about your views about

the happiness part in the marriage.

 

regards/Bhaskar

 

 

 

 

, amit desai

<amitwho wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskarji

>

> I toatlly agree with you that as an astrologer we should not be

upfront and blunt to tell the subject about our finidings and make them

more miserable rather than comforting them and helping them with

solution.

> i submitted my views in forum for cross learning, without realising

that the example could be a relative of the group member.

>

> well this is a learning for me from your experience.

>

> with best regards Amit Desai

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish

>

> Thu, October 15, 2009 9:21:03 PM

> Re: predicting marriage - a live

case

>

>

>

> There is a rule which Gurus mention, though may not be mentioned in

the

> texts . One should not talk of negatives in matters such as marriage

or

> health or such, unless one is questioned about the same and has been

> asked, otherwise the native will leave more dissapointed than before.

> Stick to answering what has been asked of.

>

> Especially in case of marriage, if an astrologer gives the date of

> marriage and next tells the native that " your marriage would not be

> happy, normal or compatible " , then the whole purpose of astrology is

> shattered and so are his hopes of living a happily married Life ahead.

..

> We are here to guide the people who come to us and not make them more

> unhappy and sad.

>

> This is just like a student whom comes to ask you whether " I will pass

> in the exam " . Even if we know he will fail, do not tell him so,

because

> you are interfering with his Law of Karma, and making him karmaheena

and

> he would now loose hope and stop studying thinking that " I am going to

> fail so whats the use of studying " . Just tell him " I cannot tell you

> now, first you study well, sit for the exam papers and then come to me

> " .

>

> In the case of Neelamji 's example, how do we know that the chart is

of

> someone not closely related to her ? If yes, then what feelers are we

> sending to her ?

>

> best wishes,

>

> Bhaskar.

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, amit desai

> amitwho@ > wrote:

> >

> > Dear Neelamji

> > As compared to Mr. , even in this example I can

> > use the steps I follow which tells me about denial of

marriage/Marital

> > disharmony.

> > In this gentlemen’s case also we can see 12th house lord

mars

> conjunct 6th house lord venus in aries , and mars

> > have 8th aspect on 12th house.

> > Using sudarshan chakra 12th & 6th house lords from Moon Mercury &

> Jupiter are also conjunct in natal sixth

> > house and aspecting natal 12th house.

> > 12th & 6th house lords from sun

> > are again venus & mars which are conjunct in 5th natal house in

aries

> and mars aspecting natal

> > 12th house.

> > I believe this are points which is delaying the

gentlemen’s

> > marriage, and it could lead to no marriage.

> > Besides that 7th lord mercury is in 12th house from its house (

Denial

> Factor)

> > Both female planet moon & venus are under joint malefic

> > effect of mars and Saturn( as mentioned in Mr. case

joint

> effect

> > of mars and Saturn on house or planet can give ill luck in matters

> ruled my

> > house and planet.)

> > I am little inept at the moment find marriage date. Amit Desai

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ ...

> > ancient_indian_ astrology ancient_indian_ astrology@

. com

> > Thu, October 15, 2009 7:27:08 PM

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] predicting marriage - a live

case

> >

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > We've had enough of theory. Let us do a live exercise. I am giving

> below a data with some events (for confirming the lagna). Kindly

predict

> marriage for this person. He is still unmarried.

> >

> > June 19, 1977/18:57 hrs/Ratlam, M.P

> >

> > Events:

> >

> > * One elder sister (5 years elder to him), one younger brother (4

> years younger to him).

> > * Studied Hotel Management

> > * Father is an engineer by profession and mother is a lecturer.

> > * Got a good professional break and moved to Mumbai in December 2004

> > * Moved to a foreign country for doing an MBA in August 31, 2007

> > Please use whatever method you want, but give your reasons. Since

the

> event is yet to happen, the exercise would help us to know how

everyone

> would read a future event and whether there are some common readings.

> > Let me also tell you that the lagna is on sandhi. Events are given.

> Please feel free to use your methods of correction, your favourite

> ayanamsha, divisions, divisional charts, etc.

> >

> > Hope all learned members would participate.

> >

> > Regards

> > Neelam

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Neelam ji, You are absolutely right. What you gave was " *June 19, 1977/18:57 hrs/Ratlam, M.P* and what I entered was " *JAN 19, 1977/18:57 hrs/Ratlam, M.P*! My mistake! The typo makes everything upside down - ha..ha.. The whole analysis is gone - waste of time for the customer! Sorry, that it happened. Don't tell to anyone that I make such mistakes. OK. I will may try again - but anyway the basic style I use is clear from the above example itself it seems - even though I took the wrong data. Love and regards,Sreeandh , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh ji,> > I think there's some mistake. You have taken Cancer Lagna.> This is a sandhi between Sagi and scorpio. That is why I had also given the> events in case one wanted to go for correcting the chart.> Kindly check! I know you'd made a huge effort:-(> > Regards> Neelam

[Guest guest]

Dear Neelam Ji,

 

Here is my basic learner's attempt.

 

I prefer Scorpio Lagna for the native. I feel Me dasha may not give him marriage and he will have to wait until Ketu-Venus for marriage. I feel a good chance in Ketu-Venus (between July 2010 and July of 2011). Other than various static factors, I also feel Jupiter's transit to Pisces and Saturns continuing transit in Virgo will help fructify the matter.

 

But with 8L in 7H and 7L conjunct 6L considerable effort may be needed on the part of both partners to keep things going. 2L/5L Jupiters presence in the 7H is the saving grace. However due to Jupiter's presence in the 7H and Venus being the Yogi planet, marriage is not denied. 7L Venus being debilitated in Navamsha with Rahu can indicate spouse from family/culture different from the Native. Venus/Mars conjunction in the 6H aspected by Saturn from Cancer indicates possibility of emotional distance from spouse possibilly creating practical intimacy problems in relationships. However strong Moon (though conjunct Saturn and aspected by Mars) should give him the strength to deal with it, if he gets enough help from Jupiter (Marriage Counsellors !)

 

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Thu, October 15, 2009 6:57:08 AM predicting marriage - a live case

Dear All,We've had enough of theory. Let us do a live exercise. I am giving below a data with some events (for confirming the lagna). Kindly predict marriage for this person. He is still unmarried.June 19, 1977/18:57 hrs/Ratlam, M.PEvents:

 

One elder sister (5 years elder to him), one younger brother (4 years younger to him).

Studied Hotel Management

Father is an engineer by profession and mother is a lecturer.

Got a good professional break and moved to Mumbai in December 2004

Moved to a foreign country for doing an MBA in August 31, 2007Please use whatever method you want, but give your reasons. Since the event is yet to happen, the exercise would help us to know how everyone would read a future event and whether there are some common readings. Let me also tell you that the lagna is on sandhi. Events are given. Please feel free to use your methods of correction, your favourite ayanamsha, divisions, divisional charts, etc. Hope all learned members would participate. RegardsNeelam

[Guest guest]

Dear Neelam ji,

 

Thanks for the live exercise which is much needed to awaken most of

us...hopefully.

 

Trying my hands on KP Astrology, I predict marriage for this gentleman.

 

I get Mercury as as the sub-lord of the 7th cusp. Mercury is a significator of

the 7th house. Hence marriage would take place.

 

Dasa may be Mercury/Saturn Vimsottari Dasa period.

 

In this chart LL Ju and 7HL Me are together.

From Moon, rashi lord Moon and 7HL Sa are together.

From Sun, rashi lord Me and 7HL Jupiter are together.

From Venus, rashi lord Mars and 7HL Venus are together.

 

What is the significance of this if there is anything at all.....Hope a learned

member would explain.

 

blessings,

 

Renu

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, neelam gupta

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> We've had enough of theory. Let us do a live exercise. I am giving below a

> data with some events (for confirming the lagna). Kindly predict marriage

> for this person. He is still unmarried.

>

> *June 19, 1977/18:57 hrs/Ratlam, M.P*

>

> Events:

>

> - One elder sister (5 years elder to him), one younger brother (4 years

> younger to him).

> - Studied Hotel Management

> - Father is an engineer by profession and mother is a lecturer.

> - Got a good professional break and moved to Mumbai in December 2004

> - Moved to a foreign country for doing an MBA in August 31, 2007

>

>

> Please use whatever method you want, but give your reasons. Since the event

> is yet to happen, the exercise would help us to know how everyone would read

> a future event and whether there are some common readings.

> Let me also tell you that the lagna is on sandhi. Events are given. Please

> feel free to use your methods of correction, your favourite ayanamsha,

> divisions, divisional charts, etc.

>

> Hope all learned members would participate.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Manoj ji,That was good, though success cannot be guaranteed, but procedure should be correct. One should make always make an attempt to first verify the correctness of the chart, specially if it is a sandhi birth.

RegardsNeelam2009/10/15 renunw <renunw

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Neelam ji,

 

Thanks for the live exercise which is much needed to awaken most of us...hopefully.

 

Trying my hands on KP Astrology, I predict marriage for this gentleman.

 

I get Mercury as as the sub-lord of the 7th cusp. Mercury is a significator of the 7th house. Hence marriage would take place.

 

Dasa may be Mercury/Saturn Vimsottari Dasa period.

 

In this chart LL Ju and 7HL Me are together.

From Moon, rashi lord Moon and 7HL Sa are together.

From Sun, rashi lord Me and 7HL Jupiter are together.

From Venus, rashi lord Mars and 7HL Venus are together.

 

What is the significance of this if there is anything at all.....Hope a learned member would explain.

 

blessings,

 

Renu

 

, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> We've had enough of theory. Let us do a live exercise. I am giving below a

> data with some events (for confirming the lagna). Kindly predict marriage

> for this person. He is still unmarried.

>

> *June 19, 1977/18:57 hrs/Ratlam, M.P*

>

> Events:

>

> - One elder sister (5 years elder to him), one younger brother (4 years

> younger to him).

> - Studied Hotel Management

> - Father is an engineer by profession and mother is a lecturer.

> - Got a good professional break and moved to Mumbai in December 2004

> - Moved to a foreign country for doing an MBA in August 31, 2007

>

>

> Please use whatever method you want, but give your reasons. Since the event

> is yet to happen, the exercise would help us to know how everyone would read

> a future event and whether there are some common readings.

> Let me also tell you that the lagna is on sandhi. Events are given. Please

> feel free to use your methods of correction, your favourite ayanamsha,

> divisions, divisional charts, etc.

>

> Hope all learned members would participate.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

[Guest guest]

As I understand, This is going to be a good marriage with love in between, both

the partners w'd like to love and enjoy their freedom, two independent

personalities and w'd be busy in their work.

 

Still, this is going to be a happy life, I exclude health issues and the time

they are living in distant places, as this is common in today's life, a partner

lives in mumbai and another in delhi.

 

Well, it's sure that the native will have work in Delhi NCR for some time.

 

 

regards,

Utkal.

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

>

> Dear Amit ji,

>

> Of course I know you are innocent and had in mind cross learning and

> exchange of technicals. By the way you were right about your views about

> the happiness part in the marriage.

>

> regards/Bhaskar

>

>

>

>

> , amit desai

> <amitwho@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskarji

> >

> > I toatlly agree with you that as an astrologer we should not be

> upfront and blunt to tell the subject about our finidings and make them

> more miserable rather than comforting them and helping them with

> solution.

> > i submitted my views in forum for cross learning, without realising

> that the example could be a relative of the group member.

> >

> > well this is a learning for me from your experience.

> >

> > with best regards Amit Desai

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> >

> > Thu, October 15, 2009 9:21:03 PM

> > Re: predicting marriage - a live

> case

> >

> >

> >

> > There is a rule which Gurus mention, though may not be mentioned in

> the

> > texts . One should not talk of negatives in matters such as marriage

> or

> > health or such, unless one is questioned about the same and has been

> > asked, otherwise the native will leave more dissapointed than before.

> > Stick to answering what has been asked of.

> >

> > Especially in case of marriage, if an astrologer gives the date of

> > marriage and next tells the native that " your marriage would not be

> > happy, normal or compatible " , then the whole purpose of astrology is

> > shattered and so are his hopes of living a happily married Life ahead.

> .

> > We are here to guide the people who come to us and not make them more

> > unhappy and sad.

> >

> > This is just like a student whom comes to ask you whether " I will pass

> > in the exam " . Even if we know he will fail, do not tell him so,

> because

> > you are interfering with his Law of Karma, and making him karmaheena

> and

> > he would now loose hope and stop studying thinking that " I am going to

> > fail so whats the use of studying " . Just tell him " I cannot tell you

> > now, first you study well, sit for the exam papers and then come to me

> > " .

> >

> > In the case of Neelamji 's example, how do we know that the chart is

> of

> > someone not closely related to her ? If yes, then what feelers are we

> > sending to her ?

> >

> > best wishes,

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, amit desai

> > amitwho@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Neelamji

> > > As compared to Mr. , even in this example I can

> > > use the steps I follow which tells me about denial of

> marriage/Marital

> > > disharmony.

> > > In this gentlemen’s case also we can see 12th house lord

> mars

> > conjunct 6th house lord venus in aries , and mars

> > > have 8th aspect on 12th house.

> > > Using sudarshan chakra 12th & 6th house lords from Moon Mercury &

> > Jupiter are also conjunct in natal sixth

> > > house and aspecting natal 12th house.

> > > 12th & 6th house lords from sun

> > > are again venus & mars which are conjunct in 5th natal house in

> aries

> > and mars aspecting natal

> > > 12th house.

> > > I believe this are points which is delaying the

> gentlemen’s

> > > marriage, and it could lead to no marriage.

> > > Besides that 7th lord mercury is in 12th house from its house (

> Denial

> > Factor)

> > > Both female planet moon & venus are under joint malefic

> > > effect of mars and Saturn( as mentioned in Mr. case

> joint

> > effect

> > > of mars and Saturn on house or planet can give ill luck in matters

> > ruled my

> > > house and planet.)

> > > I am little inept at the moment find marriage date. Amit Desai

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ ...

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology ancient_indian_ astrology@

> . com

> > > Thu, October 15, 2009 7:27:08 PM

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] predicting marriage - a live

> case

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > We've had enough of theory. Let us do a live exercise. I am giving

> > below a data with some events (for confirming the lagna). Kindly

> predict

> > marriage for this person. He is still unmarried.

> > >

> > > June 19, 1977/18:57 hrs/Ratlam, M.P

> > >

> > > Events:

> > >

> > > * One elder sister (5 years elder to him), one younger brother (4

> > years younger to him).

> > > * Studied Hotel Management

> > > * Father is an engineer by profession and mother is a lecturer.

> > > * Got a good professional break and moved to Mumbai in December 2004

> > > * Moved to a foreign country for doing an MBA in August 31, 2007

> > > Please use whatever method you want, but give your reasons. Since

> the

> > event is yet to happen, the exercise would help us to know how

> everyone

> > would read a future event and whether there are some common readings.

> > > Let me also tell you that the lagna is on sandhi. Events are given.

> > Please feel free to use your methods of correction, your favourite

> > ayanamsha, divisions, divisional charts, etc.

> > >

> > > Hope all learned members would participate.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Neelam

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Utkal ji,I am sorry, but this is not clear. Who will have work in Delhi NCR?The native is based on France and worked in Dubai for sometime. I do not think he wants to be in Delhi.Anyhow, please share the reasons for your readings. That will help the participants.

Kindly do elaborate how do you find where the native is going to work, as specific as Delhi! I find it remarkable. Please share. That'll be great learning exercise.RegardsNeelamnot understand what y

2009/10/15 utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi

 

 

 

 

 

As I understand, This is going to be a good marriage with love in between, both the partners w'd like to love and enjoy their freedom, two independent personalities and w'd be busy in their work.

 

Still, this is going to be a happy life, I exclude health issues and the time they are living in distant places, as this is common in today's life, a partner lives in mumbai and another in delhi.

 

Well, it's sure that the native will have work in Delhi NCR for some time.

 

regards,

Utkal.

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

>

> Dear Amit ji,

>

> Of course I know you are innocent and had in mind cross learning and

> exchange of technicals. By the way you were right about your views about

> the happiness part in the marriage.

>

> regards/Bhaskar

>

>

>

>

> , amit desai

> <amitwho@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskarji

> >

> > I toatlly agree with you that as an astrologer we should not be

> upfront and blunt to tell the subject about our finidings and make them

> more miserable rather than comforting them and helping them with

> solution.

> > i submitted my views in forum for cross learning, without realising

> that the example could be a relative of the group member.

> >

> > well this is a learning for me from your experience.

> >

> > with best regards Amit Desai

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> >

> > Thu, October 15, 2009 9:21:03 PM

> > Re: predicting marriage - a live

> case

> >

> >

> >

> > There is a rule which Gurus mention, though may not be mentioned in

> the

> > texts . One should not talk of negatives in matters such as marriage

> or

> > health or such, unless one is questioned about the same and has been

> > asked, otherwise the native will leave more dissapointed than before.

> > Stick to answering what has been asked of.

> >

> > Especially in case of marriage, if an astrologer gives the date of

> > marriage and next tells the native that " your marriage would not be

> > happy, normal or compatible " , then the whole purpose of astrology is

> > shattered and so are his hopes of living a happily married Life ahead.

> .

> > We are here to guide the people who come to us and not make them more

> > unhappy and sad.

> >

> > This is just like a student whom comes to ask you whether " I will pass

> > in the exam " . Even if we know he will fail, do not tell him so,

> because

> > you are interfering with his Law of Karma, and making him karmaheena

> and

> > he would now loose hope and stop studying thinking that " I am going to

> > fail so whats the use of studying " . Just tell him " I cannot tell you

> > now, first you study well, sit for the exam papers and then come to me

> > " .

> >

> > In the case of Neelamji 's example, how do we know that the chart is

> of

> > someone not closely related to her ? If yes, then what feelers are we

> > sending to her ?

> >

> > best wishes,

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, amit desai

> > amitwho@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Neelamji

> > > As compared to Mr. , even in this example I can

> > > use the steps I follow which tells me about denial of

> marriage/Marital

> > > disharmony.

> > > In this gentlemen’s case also we can see 12th house lord

> mars

> > conjunct 6th house lord venus in aries , and mars

> > > have 8th aspect on 12th house.

> > > Using sudarshan chakra 12th & 6th house lords from Moon Mercury &

> > Jupiter are also conjunct in natal sixth

> > > house and aspecting natal 12th house.

> > > 12th & 6th house lords from sun

> > > are again venus & mars which are conjunct in 5th natal house in

> aries

> > and mars aspecting natal

> > > 12th house.

> > > I believe this are points which is delaying the

> gentlemen’s

> > > marriage, and it could lead to no marriage.

> > > Besides that 7th lord mercury is in 12th house from its house (

> Denial

> > Factor)

> > > Both female planet moon & venus are under joint malefic

> > > effect of mars and Saturn( as mentioned in Mr. case

> joint

> > effect

> > > of mars and Saturn on house or planet can give ill luck in matters

> > ruled my

> > > house and planet.)

> > > I am little inept at the moment find marriage date. Amit Desai

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ ...

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology ancient_indian_ astrology@

> . com

> > > Thu, October 15, 2009 7:27:08 PM

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] predicting marriage - a live

> case

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > We've had enough of theory. Let us do a live exercise. I am giving

> > below a data with some events (for confirming the lagna). Kindly

> predict

> > marriage for this person. He is still unmarried.

> > >

> > > June 19, 1977/18:57 hrs/Ratlam, M.P

> > >

> > > Events:

> > >

> > > * One elder sister (5 years elder to him), one younger brother (4

> > years younger to him).

> > > * Studied Hotel Management

> > > * Father is an engineer by profession and mother is a lecturer.

> > > * Got a good professional break and moved to Mumbai in December 2004

> > > * Moved to a foreign country for doing an MBA in August 31, 2007

> > > Please use whatever method you want, but give your reasons. Since

> the

> > event is yet to happen, the exercise would help us to know how

> everyone

> > would read a future event and whether there are some common readings.

> > > Let me also tell you that the lagna is on sandhi. Events are given.

> > Please feel free to use your methods of correction, your favourite

> > ayanamsha, divisions, divisional charts, etc.

> > >

> > > Hope all learned members would participate.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Neelam

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Neelam Ji,

 

Chart's correctness is ur part,You have to confirm native's lagna.

not going to check the validity of the lagna, If native (she) has beautiful and

somewhat curly hair, good physic, she is vrischika lagna.

 

If native(she) is active and schloarly, popular in friend circle outspoken but

does meaningfull talks and sometimes flirty, native is dhanu, with dhanu lagna,

native should have interest in yoga and fitness, morning walk etc.

 

 

regards,

Utkal.

 

, " utkal.panigrahi "

<utkal.panigrahi wrote:

>

> As I understand, This is going to be a good marriage with love in between,

both the partners w'd like to love and enjoy their freedom, two independent

personalities and w'd be busy in their work.

>

> Still, this is going to be a happy life, I exclude health issues and the time

they are living in distant places, as this is common in today's life, a partner

lives in mumbai and another in delhi.

>

> Well, it's sure that the native will have work in Delhi NCR for some time.

>

>

> regards,

> Utkal.

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Amit ji,

> >

> > Of course I know you are innocent and had in mind cross learning and

> > exchange of technicals. By the way you were right about your views about

> > the happiness part in the marriage.

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , amit desai

> > <amitwho@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskarji

> > >

> > > I toatlly agree with you that as an astrologer we should not be

> > upfront and blunt to tell the subject about our finidings and make them

> > more miserable rather than comforting them and helping them with

> > solution.

> > > i submitted my views in forum for cross learning, without realising

> > that the example could be a relative of the group member.

> > >

> > > well this is a learning for me from your experience.

> > >

> > > with best regards Amit Desai

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > >

> > > Thu, October 15, 2009 9:21:03 PM

> > > Re: predicting marriage - a live

> > case

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > There is a rule which Gurus mention, though may not be mentioned in

> > the

> > > texts . One should not talk of negatives in matters such as marriage

> > or

> > > health or such, unless one is questioned about the same and has been

> > > asked, otherwise the native will leave more dissapointed than before.

> > > Stick to answering what has been asked of.

> > >

> > > Especially in case of marriage, if an astrologer gives the date of

> > > marriage and next tells the native that " your marriage would not be

> > > happy, normal or compatible " , then the whole purpose of astrology is

> > > shattered and so are his hopes of living a happily married Life ahead.

> > .

> > > We are here to guide the people who come to us and not make them more

> > > unhappy and sad.

> > >

> > > This is just like a student whom comes to ask you whether " I will pass

> > > in the exam " . Even if we know he will fail, do not tell him so,

> > because

> > > you are interfering with his Law of Karma, and making him karmaheena

> > and

> > > he would now loose hope and stop studying thinking that " I am going to

> > > fail so whats the use of studying " . Just tell him " I cannot tell you

> > > now, first you study well, sit for the exam papers and then come to me

> > > " .

> > >

> > > In the case of Neelamji 's example, how do we know that the chart is

> > of

> > > someone not closely related to her ? If yes, then what feelers are we

> > > sending to her ?

> > >

> > > best wishes,

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, amit desai

> > > amitwho@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Neelamji

> > > > As compared to Mr. , even in this example I can

> > > > use the steps I follow which tells me about denial of

> > marriage/Marital

> > > > disharmony.

> > > > In this gentlemen’s case also we can see 12th house lord

> > mars

> > > conjunct 6th house lord venus in aries , and mars

> > > > have 8th aspect on 12th house.

> > > > Using sudarshan chakra 12th & 6th house lords from Moon Mercury &

> > > Jupiter are also conjunct in natal sixth

> > > > house and aspecting natal 12th house.

> > > > 12th & 6th house lords from sun

> > > > are again venus & mars which are conjunct in 5th natal house in

> > aries

> > > and mars aspecting natal

> > > > 12th house.

> > > > I believe this are points which is delaying the

> > gentlemen’s

> > > > marriage, and it could lead to no marriage.

> > > > Besides that 7th lord mercury is in 12th house from its house (

> > Denial

> > > Factor)

> > > > Both female planet moon & venus are under joint malefic

> > > > effect of mars and Saturn( as mentioned in Mr. case

> > joint

> > > effect

> > > > of mars and Saturn on house or planet can give ill luck in matters

> > > ruled my

> > > > house and planet.)

> > > > I am little inept at the moment find marriage date. Amit Desai

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ ...

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology ancient_indian_ astrology@

> > . com

> > > > Thu, October 15, 2009 7:27:08 PM

> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] predicting marriage - a live

> > case

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear All,

> > > >

> > > > We've had enough of theory. Let us do a live exercise. I am giving

> > > below a data with some events (for confirming the lagna). Kindly

> > predict

> > > marriage for this person. He is still unmarried.

> > > >

> > > > June 19, 1977/18:57 hrs/Ratlam, M.P

> > > >

> > > > Events:

> > > >

> > > > * One elder sister (5 years elder to him), one younger brother (4

> > > years younger to him).

> > > > * Studied Hotel Management

> > > > * Father is an engineer by profession and mother is a lecturer.

> > > > * Got a good professional break and moved to Mumbai in December 2004

> > > > * Moved to a foreign country for doing an MBA in August 31, 2007

> > > > Please use whatever method you want, but give your reasons. Since

> > the

> > > event is yet to happen, the exercise would help us to know how

> > everyone

> > > would read a future event and whether there are some common readings.

> > > > Let me also tell you that the lagna is on sandhi. Events are given.

> > > Please feel free to use your methods of correction, your favourite

> > > ayanamsha, divisions, divisional charts, etc.

> > > >

> > > > Hope all learned members would participate.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Neelam

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

When Native is back in India, Native will have to work in Delhi NCR even for a

small period.

 

Will elaborate some other time.

 

regards,

Utkal

 

, neelam gupta

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear Utkal ji,

>

> I am sorry, but this is not clear. Who will have work in Delhi NCR?

> The native is based on France and worked in Dubai for sometime. I do not

> think he wants to be in Delhi.

>

> Anyhow, please share the reasons for your readings. That will help the

> participants.

> Kindly do elaborate how do you find where the native is going to work, as

> specific as Delhi! I find it remarkable. Please share. That'll be great

> learning exercise.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

>

>

> not understand what y

>

> 2009/10/15 utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi

>

> >

> >

> > As I understand, This is going to be a good marriage with love in between,

> > both the partners w'd like to love and enjoy their freedom, two independent

> > personalities and w'd be busy in their work.

> >

> > Still, this is going to be a happy life, I exclude health issues and the

> > time they are living in distant places, as this is common in today's life, a

> > partner lives in mumbai and another in delhi.

> >

> > Well, it's sure that the native will have work in Delhi NCR for some time.

> >

> > regards,

> > Utkal.

> >

> >

> > --- In

<%40.\

com>,

> > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Amit ji,

> > >

> > > Of course I know you are innocent and had in mind cross learning and

> > > exchange of technicals. By the way you were right about your views about

> > > the happiness part in the marriage.

> > >

> > > regards/Bhaskar

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In

<%40.\

com>,

> > amit desai

> > > <amitwho@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bhaskarji

> > > >

> > > > I toatlly agree with you that as an astrologer we should not be

> > > upfront and blunt to tell the subject about our finidings and make them

> > > more miserable rather than comforting them and helping them with

> > > solution.

> > > > i submitted my views in forum for cross learning, without realising

> > > that the example could be a relative of the group member.

> > > >

> > > > well this is a learning for me from your experience.

> > > >

> > > > with best regards Amit Desai

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > To:

<%40.\

com>

> > > > Thu, October 15, 2009 9:21:03 PM

> > > > Re: predicting marriage - a live

> > > case

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > There is a rule which Gurus mention, though may not be mentioned in

> > > the

> > > > texts . One should not talk of negatives in matters such as marriage

> > > or

> > > > health or such, unless one is questioned about the same and has been

> > > > asked, otherwise the native will leave more dissapointed than before.

> > > > Stick to answering what has been asked of.

> > > >

> > > > Especially in case of marriage, if an astrologer gives the date of

> > > > marriage and next tells the native that " your marriage would not be

> > > > happy, normal or compatible " , then the whole purpose of astrology is

> > > > shattered and so are his hopes of living a happily married Life ahead.

> > > .

> > > > We are here to guide the people who come to us and not make them more

> > > > unhappy and sad.

> > > >

> > > > This is just like a student whom comes to ask you whether " I will pass

> > > > in the exam " . Even if we know he will fail, do not tell him so,

> > > because

> > > > you are interfering with his Law of Karma, and making him karmaheena

> > > and

> > > > he would now loose hope and stop studying thinking that " I am going to

> > > > fail so whats the use of studying " . Just tell him " I cannot tell you

> > > > now, first you study well, sit for the exam papers and then come to me

> > > > " .

> > > >

> > > > In the case of Neelamji 's example, how do we know that the chart is

> > > of

> > > > someone not closely related to her ? If yes, then what feelers are we

> > > > sending to her ?

> > > >

> > > > best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, amit desai

> > > > amitwho@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Neelamji

> > > > > As compared to Mr. , even in this example I can

> > > > > use the steps I follow which tells me about denial of

> > > marriage/Marital

> > > > > disharmony.

> > > > > In this gentlemen’s case also we can see 12th house lord

> > > mars

> > > > conjunct 6th house lord venus in aries , and mars

> > > > > have 8th aspect on 12th house.

> > > > > Using sudarshan chakra 12th & 6th house lords from Moon Mercury &

> > > > Jupiter are also conjunct in natal sixth

> > > > > house and aspecting natal 12th house.

> > > > > 12th & 6th house lords from sun

> > > > > are again venus & mars which are conjunct in 5th natal house in

> > > aries

> > > > and mars aspecting natal

> > > > > 12th house.

> > > > > I believe this are points which is delaying the

> > > gentlemen’s

> > > > > marriage, and it could lead to no marriage.

> > > > > Besides that 7th lord mercury is in 12th house from its house (

> > > Denial

> > > > Factor)

> > > > > Both female planet moon & venus are under joint malefic

> > > > > effect of mars and Saturn( as mentioned in Mr. case

> > > joint

> > > > effect

> > > > > of mars and Saturn on house or planet can give ill luck in matters

> > > > ruled my

> > > > > house and planet.)

> > > > > I am little inept at the moment find marriage date. Amit Desai

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ ...

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology ancient_indian_ astrology@

> > > . com

> > > > > Thu, October 15, 2009 7:27:08 PM

> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] predicting marriage - a live

> > > case

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear All,

> > > > >

> > > > > We've had enough of theory. Let us do a live exercise. I am giving

> > > > below a data with some events (for confirming the lagna). Kindly

> > > predict

> > > > marriage for this person. He is still unmarried.

> > > > >

> > > > > June 19, 1977/18:57 hrs/Ratlam, M.P

> > > > >

> > > > > Events:

> > > > >

> > > > > * One elder sister (5 years elder to him), one younger brother (4

> > > > years younger to him).

> > > > > * Studied Hotel Management

> > > > > * Father is an engineer by profession and mother is a lecturer.

> > > > > * Got a good professional break and moved to Mumbai in December 2004

> > > > > * Moved to a foreign country for doing an MBA in August 31, 2007

> > > > > Please use whatever method you want, but give your reasons. Since

> > > the

> > > > event is yet to happen, the exercise would help us to know how

> > > everyone

> > > > would read a future event and whether there are some common readings.

> > > > > Let me also tell you that the lagna is on sandhi. Events are given.

> > > > Please feel free to use your methods of correction, your favourite

> > > > ayanamsha, divisions, divisional charts, etc.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hope all learned members would participate.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Neelam

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Utkal ji,First and foremost, native is a BOY. Please check my first mail where 3 times I have indicated this.//Chart's correctness is ur part,You have to confirm native's lagna.//

Nothing is my part. Please understand that I am not seeking prediction nor am I running it as a blind test for members. I have just presented a situation which you may use for learning and sharing. This is a collective and collaborative exercise where each one is supposed to contribute humbly towards learning.

//When Native is back in India, Native will have to work in Delhi NCR even for a small period. Will elaborate some other time.//I hope you’re taking yourself seriously Utkal ji!

Thanks and regardsNeelam

[Guest guest]

Which is why I am against much lectures, Long Essays and people trying

to all the time teach astrology to others, and when their time comes for

predicting, the pyjamas fall down out of fear and all waste comes out as

a outpour.. I have never liked and believed those who write so

much..without substance.

 

When Neelamji had mentioned that the Chart is at Sandhi, then its the

astrologers job to check which Lagna is right and not asking for natives

physical characteristics to ascertain this. Any good astrologer need not

ask for any details or past event, but be himself be able to even reach

the accurate time of birth through his own tools.

 

And what is all this rubbish talk of his coming to delhi NCR and that

too , not ready to elaborate now ? What are we supposed to do. Sit here

like dumb villagers and supposed to clap hands at such crazy, and

obnoxious statements which are not supported by any logic ? is this

Forum a Group of astrologers or that of soothsayers, crystal gazers and

what have you ?

 

Utkal ji may be a good man, I am not aware of his credentials, but this

one was senseless. I was also reading his narration of trying to judge

Lagna through features etc. throughout the day, and all this crap does

not hold good in times of todays, let me put my views, although I kept

quiet watching the show with cynicsm.

 

And what about sagittarian Lady natives ? They are lusty ????

 

ha ha. What deteoriation of astrology in hands of todays so called

astrologers (???)

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, neelam gupta

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear Utkal ji,

>

> First and foremost, native is a BOY. Please check my first mail where

3

> times I have indicated this.

>

> //Chart's correctness is ur part,You have to confirm native's lagna.//

> Nothing is my part. Please understand that I am not seeking prediction

nor

> am I running it as a blind test for members. I have just presented a

> situation which you may use for learning and sharing. This is a

collective

> and collaborative exercise where each one is supposed to contribute

humbly

> towards learning.

>

> //When Native is back in India, Native will have to work in Delhi NCR

even

> for a small period. Will elaborate some other time.//

> I hope you're taking yourself seriously Utkal ji!

>

> Thanks and regards

> Neelam

>

[Guest guest]

I m serious on every word of mine - " Delhi NCR " , But, you have to confirm the

chart's correctness, otherwise, timing will fail as parameter will get change,

in such a case, w'd prefer to give a time with a conditional clause - If this is

the lagna - this is the time.

 

regards,

Utkal.

 

 

 

, neelam gupta

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear Utkal ji,

>

> First and foremost, native is a BOY. Please check my first mail where 3

> times I have indicated this.

>

> //Chart's correctness is ur part,You have to confirm native's lagna.//

> Nothing is my part. Please understand that I am not seeking prediction nor

> am I running it as a blind test for members. I have just presented a

> situation which you may use for learning and sharing. This is a collective

> and collaborative exercise where each one is supposed to contribute humbly

> towards learning.

>

> //When Native is back in India, Native will have to work in Delhi NCR even

> for a small period. Will elaborate some other time.//

> I hope you're taking yourself seriously Utkal ji!

>

> Thanks and regards

> Neelam

>

[Guest guest]

My method of working.

 

I calculated the period of Birth, not from the Birth Chart but from the

Ruling Planets. It takes just a few minutes to do this, when the

pointers are positive. I had chosen Sagittarius as the Lagna. I

corroborated my timing of marriage with that of the Chart through KP,

and the method has alread been put partly by Renuji, so need not repeat

it. At time of judgement I had the planets Venus, Venus, the Sun, and

Jupiter in place.

 

I will not talk about the accuracy of the birth time, since did not go

in detailed study and was just looking for the marriage event timing

pointers.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

 

, " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

>

> Dear Neelam ji,

>

> there is a strong chance for him to get married this year itself

between

> 7th to 16th November or near around 27th December.

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

>

> , neelam gupta

> neelamgupta07@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > We've had enough of theory. Let us do a live exercise. I am giving

> below a

> > data with some events (for confirming the lagna). Kindly predict

> marriage

> > for this person. He is still unmarried.

> >

> > *June 19, 1977/18:57 hrs/Ratlam, M.P*

> >

> > Events:

> >

> > - One elder sister (5 years elder to him), one younger brother (4

> years

> > younger to him).

> > - Studied Hotel Management

> > - Father is an engineer by profession and mother is a lecturer.

> > - Got a good professional break and moved to Mumbai in December 2004

> > - Moved to a foreign country for doing an MBA in August 31, 2007

> >

> >

> > Please use whatever method you want, but give your reasons. Since

the

> event

> > is yet to happen, the exercise would help us to know how everyone

> would read

> > a future event and whether there are some common readings.

> > Let me also tell you that the lagna is on sandhi. Events are given.

> Please

> > feel free to use your methods of correction, your favourite

ayanamsha,

> > divisions, divisional charts, etc.

> >

> > Hope all learned members would participate.

> >

> > Regards

> > Neelam

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry,

 

The 6th house, the 8th house and the 10th house are all thrown all over

the Horoscope, and there cannot be a happy marriage for the native,

(unless he makes a great gigantic effort to find a woman with the 2nd or

7th house significations thrown all over, and here too he can negate the

malefics to a great extent but reversal of imcopatibility is not

possibe).

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

, " utkal.panigrahi "

<utkal.panigrahi wrote:

>

> As I understand, This is going to be a good marriage with love in

between, both the partners w'd like to love and enjoy their freedom, two

independent personalities and w'd be busy in their work.

>

> Still, this is going to be a happy life, I exclude health issues and

the time they are living in distant places, as this is common in today's

life, a partner lives in mumbai and another in delhi.

>

> Well, it's sure that the native will have work in Delhi NCR for some

time.

>

>

> regards,

> Utkal.

>

> , " Bhaskar "

bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Amit ji,

> >

> > Of course I know you are innocent and had in mind cross learning and

> > exchange of technicals. By the way you were right about your views

about

> > the happiness part in the marriage.

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , amit desai

> > <amitwho@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskarji

> > >

> > > I toatlly agree with you that as an astrologer we should not be

> > upfront and blunt to tell the subject about our finidings and make

them

> > more miserable rather than comforting them and helping them with

> > solution.

> > > i submitted my views in forum for cross learning, without

realising

> > that the example could be a relative of the group member.

> > >

> > > well this is a learning for me from your experience.

> > >

> > > with best regards Amit Desai

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> > >

> > > Thu, October 15, 2009 9:21:03 PM

> > > Re: predicting marriage - a

live

> > case

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > There is a rule which Gurus mention, though may not be mentioned

in

> > the

> > > texts . One should not talk of negatives in matters such as

marriage

> > or

> > > health or such, unless one is questioned about the same and has

been

> > > asked, otherwise the native will leave more dissapointed than

before.

> > > Stick to answering what has been asked of.

> > >

> > > Especially in case of marriage, if an astrologer gives the date of

> > > marriage and next tells the native that " your marriage would not

be

> > > happy, normal or compatible " , then the whole purpose of astrology

is

> > > shattered and so are his hopes of living a happily married Life

ahead.

> > .

> > > We are here to guide the people who come to us and not make them

more

> > > unhappy and sad.

> > >

> > > This is just like a student whom comes to ask you whether " I will

pass

> > > in the exam " . Even if we know he will fail, do not tell him so,

> > because

> > > you are interfering with his Law of Karma, and making him

karmaheena

> > and

> > > he would now loose hope and stop studying thinking that " I am

going to

> > > fail so whats the use of studying " . Just tell him " I cannot tell

you

> > > now, first you study well, sit for the exam papers and then come

to me

> > > " .

> > >

> > > In the case of Neelamji 's example, how do we know that the chart

is

> > of

> > > someone not closely related to her ? If yes, then what feelers are

we

> > > sending to her ?

> > >

> > > best wishes,

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, amit desai

> > > amitwho@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Neelamji

> > > > As compared to Mr. , even in this example I can

> > > > use the steps I follow which tells me about denial of

> > marriage/Marital

> > > > disharmony.

> > > > In this gentlemen’s case also we can see 12th house

lord

> > mars

> > > conjunct 6th house lord venus in aries , and mars

> > > > have 8th aspect on 12th house.

> > > > Using sudarshan chakra 12th & 6th house lords from Moon Mercury

&

> > > Jupiter are also conjunct in natal sixth

> > > > house and aspecting natal 12th house.

> > > > 12th & 6th house lords from sun

> > > > are again venus & mars which are conjunct in 5th natal house in

> > aries

> > > and mars aspecting natal

> > > > 12th house.

> > > > I believe this are points which is delaying the

> > gentlemen’s

> > > > marriage, and it could lead to no marriage.

> > > > Besides that 7th lord mercury is in 12th house from its house (

> > Denial

> > > Factor)

> > > > Both female planet moon & venus are under joint malefic

> > > > effect of mars and Saturn( as mentioned in Mr. case

> > joint

> > > effect

> > > > of mars and Saturn on house or planet can give ill luck in

matters

> > > ruled my

> > > > house and planet.)

> > > > I am little inept at the moment find marriage date. Amit Desai

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ ...

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology ancient_indian_ astrology@

> > . com

> > > > Thu, October 15, 2009 7:27:08 PM

> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] predicting marriage - a

live

> > case

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear All,

> > > >

> > > > We've had enough of theory. Let us do a live exercise. I am

giving

> > > below a data with some events (for confirming the lagna). Kindly

> > predict

> > > marriage for this person. He is still unmarried.

> > > >

> > > > June 19, 1977/18:57 hrs/Ratlam, M.P

> > > >

> > > > Events:

> > > >

> > > > * One elder sister (5 years elder to him), one younger brother

(4

> > > years younger to him).

> > > > * Studied Hotel Management

> > > > * Father is an engineer by profession and mother is a lecturer.

> > > > * Got a good professional break and moved to Mumbai in December

2004

> > > > * Moved to a foreign country for doing an MBA in August 31, 2007

> > > > Please use whatever method you want, but give your reasons.

Since

> > the

> > > event is yet to happen, the exercise would help us to know how

> > everyone

> > > would read a future event and whether there are some common

readings.

> > > > Let me also tell you that the lagna is on sandhi. Events are

given.

> > > Please feel free to use your methods of correction, your favourite

> > > ayanamsha, divisions, divisional charts, etc.

> > > >

> > > > Hope all learned members would participate.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Neelam

> > > >

> > >

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