Guest guest Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 Dear Vyas, The longevity of any individual is difficult to gauge exactly, let alone having to do as such for someone else based on a chart other than their own. Judging from the transits on 4/30/1964, Leo ascendant gives us better indications for the passing of the father. Natal L9 was under the close affliction of the nodes. Transit L9 had come under the influence of the natal nodes. The final trigger may well have been the influence of transit MMP Moon on natal L9. Plus the nodal sub and main period were running, which adds an extra dose of malefic relevance to the natal and transit L9. Both the 4th and 9th houses have a role to play with regards to parents. Though they are skewed to one parent respectively, there is overlap. The 8th house first and foremost gives obstructions. It is a malefic house. The obstructions given by the house can lead one to pursue mysticism, religion, occult, etc. to find meaning in life. As for Saturn, the influence can be there in both charts. Since his views on childbirth are on the restrictive side, I think it is reasonable to see a strong Saturnian influence on the 5th and 2nd houses. He seems to have en extremely pragmatic, emotionally detached mental approach to life. The 5th and 2nd houses strongly influence one's intelligence. The numbers drive him-- luxuries, pleasures, and enjoyments play no role whatsoever. Saturn and Mercury would be the influences at work here, along with Mars. Strong Mars-Saturn-Mercury is a combination for fantastic technical mastery. One can argue that an Aquarius native would be spiritualized as well, with the strong L1 Saturn ruling the religious traits of Saturn, the strong 5th house, the strong 8th house, and the strong Sun/Jupiter. Perhaps not to the same extent as Leo. The Aquarian would be drawn to mystical knowledge in this case. Buffett's father was a prominent, successful figure. His father was himself into the investment business. So, it is reasonable to say that Buffett's father played a sizeable role in shaping his child's earlier years of life, which in turn contributed to the latter's line of work and huge successes down the road. The role of the father is larger in the Leo chart. There is a passing of the torch in the case of Leo that I don't see as strongly with Aquarius. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Arun, Thanks for clarifying. I did some further reading on Saturn. From the SA sutras: S9 In the spiritual spheres Sa signifies philosophical, humanitarian & religious thinking. " S11: On Saturnian virtues: " A well placed & strong Sa gives the Saturnian spiritual virtues of responsibility, love of meticulous detail, a capacity for concentration, love of service, a capacity for detachment, discipline, self-introspection & austerity and thus proves to be an asset for the spiritual life. " {Saturn in either consideration will give this} S15: On Bhakti: " If the 5H has no MT sign, the bhakti aspect of the 5H is transferred to the 9H. " {both 5 & 9 very strong in Leo chart, lots of bhakti} The Leo chart has too much religious morality to it to justify atheism, funding of pro-abortion programs and population control, and longelivity of father compared to mother. Weak LO9 in the Aq chart fits better. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 10:15 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Vyas, It is not that. I am talking about the likely source of his views-- what his motivation for having them really is. The house of mental inclinations is the 5th house. Strong Saturn's close influence on the 5th house, on the alternate house of children the 2nd, and on the lord of the 2nd Mercury are what contribute to his restrictive 'scarcity of resources' thinking. Saturn's influence is more profound here on his mental inclinations as it is placed in the 5th house, and imparts its influence on/from there. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Arun, Even if economics **may** be his religion, in astrology the definition of religion is a consistent one outside of a personal definition. If this wasn't the case, any house and any planet could mean anything. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:46 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Vyas, The big thing with Mr. Buffett is his loyalty to economics above all else. Economics is his religion. His views have more to do with what is best for the world economically speaking than they do with any kind of anti-religious sentiment. Astrologically speaking, the Sun and Jupiter should be looked at above both the 5th and 9th houses individually, as both have to do with the issue of children/progeny as well as morality and generosity. The close influence of strong but restrictive in nature Saturn on the 5th house, 2nd house, and 2nd lord contribute to these views. The 5th house also represents one's inclinations, and a strong Saturnian influence along with its placement there can lead to a long-lasting mental and emotional imprint there. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Arun, Taken together, I'd label this more of a 9H issue since 5H issues seem to be taken care of nicely (children and higher education). One doesn't have to be an atheist to take such a stance, but it certainly helps and fits very well with the Aq asc. As you have mentioned the 8H Me and Ve-Ke conj, it wouldn't put it past anyone in this line of work to have strong significations for the 6th sense/precognition. In fact, it's almost a requirement from what I've seen. Sometimes I just randomly wake up at the perfect minute only to get onboard fantastic trades, or I get tremors in my body when I am on the wrong side of the market or about to do something that I will not be happy with. I know some of the best traders and they all have good strength in this area more than the average person. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 8:11 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Vyas, When both the Sun and Jupiter are strong, 9th house issues can made up for to a good extent. I've seen charts where L9 is badly placed or afflicted and the strength of Sun and/or Jupiter have acted as nice balancing factors. Population control and abortion are more 5th house issues than 9th house issues. One doesn't have to be an athiest to support such stances. He seems to be driven by economic principles above anything else. L9 in the 8th and conjunct Ketu would give him an interest in the mystical/occult, especially with the dispositor Mercury strong and in the 8th house itself. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Arun, Publicly supporting pro-abortion in the billions and advocating population control is inline with atheistic views. Hits closer to home than a closet case religious man. We should see the Professor's view on these 9H issues. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 7:50 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Vyas, The proclamation of being an athiest saves him the trouble of answering any touchy religious questions. Plus he can champion any and all causes without having to deal with the religious side of things, or having religious groups nagging at him. He may be doing it more as a matter of convenience and to be politically correct (in a roundabout way). Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Arun, I don't think you'd tell the world that you are an athiest if you were the second wealthiest man in the world. Additionally, Venus rules accmulated wealth. In this case it's weak and afflicted. Ruling the 9H of fortune, we can see that it's completely inline with giving it all away. The Leo chart shows holding on to it more by Mars. I think if there was an individual born at that perfect moment in the Leo asc, he'd certainly be wealthier than the one in the Aq Asc. However, he wouldn't be an atheist, pro abortion and his father would have outlived his mother. Additionally, he would have pased on alot of his wealth to his genetic empire. I reckon the issue here isn't " which is the wealthiest of that day, " rather, " which asc fits him best. " Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 7:21 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Vyas, As a Leo with a strong Mars, I am not openly religious. When asked what my religious views are, I would reply that I am ambivalent and am open to all sorts of divination. I do not champion religious causes publicly, though I am very much religiously inclined in my private life. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Arun, In this Leo consideration case with such a stong Mars, it's unlikely for secrecy and to be openly noted as an atheist. Issue of father's longelivity isn't explained either in the Leo chart. Also, strong supporter and advocate of abortion and population control (billions in charity towards it) - must have a weak 9H despite such strong Ju and Su. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 6:14 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Vyas, Perhaps the strong Saturnian influences keeps this in check (at least in the case of Mars)? He may be privately religious under such influences, but have a pessimistic view on religion in general. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Arun, In the case of Leo, there is no 'secretive' influence to LO9, very strong Mars. Such a Leo chart would likely be a strong advocate of religious principles, publicly, taken with the strong spiritual planets Jupiter and Sun. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 4:36 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Vyas, It's hard for me to say. What people say in public and what they could be doing in private can be drastically different. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Professor, Arun and list, Buffett is an atheist from what I could find. What can give rise to this in a Leo asc chart? Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 3:12 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Ms. Powers, You have such wonderful enthusiasm for all of this, which is so nice to see. I'm leaning towards Leo ascendant for the following reasons: (a) It is the only ascendant that gives us no bad placements of any of the 9 planets on 8/30/1930. (b) He looks like a Leo who would be having the Sun closely influencing the ascendant. He has a wide face with stronger than average facial bone structure. He has a broad, strong forehead. These are Sun-inspired physical traits. © His 1st, 2nd, 5th, 8th, and 11th houses are powerful with there being ample strong close influences on them. All of these houses can bless one with financial gains when strong. The incredible strength of the 2nd house stands out the most. (d) The Sun is strong, L2 is strong, and L9 is strong. The strong L2 and L9 act like a Sun. Both L2 and L9 are strongly influencing the 2nd house of status and wealth, along with there being the influence of the strong Sun on the ascendant itself! This is an incredibly powerful chart. (d) He chooses to live frugally, which is a trait inspired by the heavy Saturnian influence on L2 and on the 2nd house. The prime significator for assets here is Mercury. Mercury is a planet that lives humbly, along with Saturn. The weakness of and close affliction to Venus contribute as well, along with the weakness of the 12th lord, Moon. (e) The weakness of and close affliction to L3 Venus accounts for his fear of public speaking. Hope this helps. Best Wishes, Arun Sheri Powers <mermaidslace wrote: Dear List, Vyas got me interested in Warren Buffett, and I checked out the book " Buffet, The Making of an American Capitalist " by Roger Lowenstein, at the library. The book has a lot of good personal information, though no birth time. On Aug 13, 1931, Warren's father's bank where he worked closed, and he lost his job and all savings. Also, Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. (perhaps debillitated moon in 4th-Oprah Winfrey, according to internet sources, is Leo with moon in fourth and had problems with mother). On Aug 13, 1931, the most afflicted ascendants for father were Leo, Sagittarius, and Aquarius. On Warren's date of birth, the ascendants with the most strong benefics were -Leo-5, Libra-4, Sagittarius-5, Aquarius-4, Aries-4, and Gemini-5. (This is keeping the MEP away from nodes). Leo, however, had the most combinations for wealth (benefics in or aspecting 2, 5, 11, and 9. Warren and family suffered poverty in his early years due to the depression, and this provided strong motivation to Warren- by the age of 5 he was stating he would grow up and be very rich. With the Leo ascendant,(depending on degree) Warren was born in Ketu subperiod, followed by weak Venus subperiod. If he is Leo, since the chart is so strong, the early weak sub periods provided strong motivation rather than hampering him in life. I was randomly checking a 6:40 birthtime which gave around 22 degrees Leo, but will check out 's suggestion of around 13 degrees rising. I will finish reading the book and check out the events against the other likely ascendants-I was strongly favoring a Leo ascendant, and glad to hear that the Professor and Arun see the same thing. But I will check out the other ascendant to make sure I am objective. I also saw strong possibility with Sagittarius and Aquarius. I really enjoy the list discussion-Sincerely, Sheri Powers Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: Dear Vyas, The nature of the prime determinant of profession should also be looked at. In the case of Leo, Mercury is the trader of the zodiac. Coupled with strong 5th/11th houses, a career in speculative activities seems to be a stronger possibility. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Arun, As you've pointed out Saturnian influence can give this frugality. How about an Aq asc? Certainly it would show strong Sun/Leo traits with Su L7 Aq if the MEP is as suspected. It shows show fantastic affluence through investments as well. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:38 AM Re: Warren Buffett My dear Esteemed Professor and Vyas, Leo ascendant folk (myself included) have a unique look, especially when the Sun influences the ascendant or 2nd house (face) closely. One can expect a wider face with strong bone structure therein. The nose may be prominent and somewhat wide. Mr. Buffett also has a strong forehead, which is consistent with other Leo's. Hence my initial assessment was Leo. Being one, I know one when I see one Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello Vyas, Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. Best wishes, - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM Re: Warren Buffett > Dear Professor, > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the world > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > My dear Vyas, > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > Leo > Virgo > Libra > Pisces > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. > > What do you think? > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the > chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. > > If this helps the discussion... > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many > years > ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed > with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him > better, contact-wise. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > On Behalf > Of Arun Rao > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > Thank you for your efforts. > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general > overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, > it > becomes guesswork. > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously > we > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. > > But deeper examination is needed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK > " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: > Dear Vyas, > > Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous > message. > > Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in > a > successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no > trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list > members > have a better luck. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > HYPERLINK > " %40 " > [HYPERLINK > " %40 " ] On Behalf Of > Vyas Munidas > terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 > HYPERLINK " %40 " > Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > Dear Jorge, > > Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this > chart. > He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a > timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes > that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other > esteemed > members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. > > Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST > > 1944: (14 years old) > invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland > > 1945: (15 years old) > first job > > 1947: (17 years old) > freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. > > 1950: (20 years old) > Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at > Columbia. > > 1952: (22 years old) > Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female > > 1954: (24 years old) > New job with Graham > Second child, male > > 1956: (26 years old) > Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett > family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett > Associates, > Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a > total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of > the year, > > 1957: (27 years old) > Third child, Peter, > Purchased a five-bedroom house > > 1960: (30 years old) > Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who > will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, > 11 > doctors agreed to invest. > > 1961: (31 years old) > With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million > investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. > > 1965: (35 years old) > Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) > > 1968: (38 years old) > Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts > college in Iowa. > > 1969: (39 years old) > Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and > liquidated its assets to his partners. > > 1971: (41 years old) > At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna > Beach. > > 1974: (44 years old) > Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio > began > to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. > Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into > Warren > GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the > investigation. > > 1977: (47 years old) > Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. > Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing > paper. > Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This > caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. > > 1983: (53 years old) > Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the > first > time. > > 1988: (58 years old) > Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up > to > 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of > Berkshire's most lucrative investments. > > 1989: (59 years old) > Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth > rose > with it to $3.8 billion. > > 1997: (67 years old) > Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at > about $6 per ounce. > > 2002: (72 years old) > Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US > dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these > contracts was over $2 billion. > > 2003: (73 years old) > By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 > million dollars. > Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted > by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for > President in 2004.[14] > > 2004: (74 years old) > Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola > Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of > interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy > buyers > of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor > Pepsi? " > > 2005: (75 years old) > The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar > strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance > divisions. > > 2006: (76 years old) > > Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re > Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American > International Group. > Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has > ever made outside of the United States. > Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about > $37 > billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of > stock starting in July 2006. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK > " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> > <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> > Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the > > possibility > > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > > > > > A good link about W. 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Guest guest Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 Dear Sheri, Please if you have the time, from the book provide us with dates of: 1) Birth of his three children 2) Death of father and mother 3) Separation from wife 4) Scandals involving the SEC and other bodies into his activities 5) Anything else that is significant (broken limbs, accidents, etc) Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:33 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear List, Vyas got me interested in Warren Buffett, and I checked out the book " Buffet, The Making of an American Capitalist " by Roger Lowenstein, at the library. The book has a lot of good personal information, though no birth time. On Aug 13, 1931, Warren's father's bank where he worked closed, and he lost his job and all savings. Also, Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. (perhaps debillitated moon in 4th-Oprah Winfrey, according to internet sources, is Leo with moon in fourth and had problems with mother). On Aug 13, 1931, the most afflicted ascendants for father were Leo, Sagittarius, and Aquarius. On Warren's date of birth, the ascendants with the most strong benefics were -Leo-5, Libra-4, Sagittarius-5, Aquarius-4, Aries-4, and Gemini-5. (This is keeping the MEP away from nodes). Leo, however, had the most combinations for wealth (benefics in or aspecting 2, 5, 11, and 9. Warren and family suffered poverty in his early years due to the depression, and this provided strong motivation to Warren- by the age of 5 he was stating he would grow up and be very rich. With the Leo ascendant,(depending on degree) Warren was born in Ketu subperiod, followed by weak Venus subperiod. If he is Leo, since the chart is so strong, the early weak sub periods provided strong motivation rather than hampering him in life. I was randomly checking a 6:40 birthtime which gave around 22 degrees Leo, but will check out 's suggestion of around 13 degrees rising. I will finish reading the book and check out the events against the other likely ascendants-I was strongly favoring a Leo ascendant, and glad to hear that the Professor and Arun see the same thing. But I will check out the other ascendant to make sure I am objective. I also saw strong possibility with Sagittarius and Aquarius. I really enjoy the list discussion-Sincerely, Sheri Powers Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: Dear Vyas, The nature of the prime determinant of profession should also be looked at. In the case of Leo, Mercury is the trader of the zodiac. Coupled with strong 5th/11th houses, a career in speculative activities seems to be a stronger possibility. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Arun, As you've pointed out Saturnian influence can give this frugality. How about an Aq asc? Certainly it would show strong Sun/Leo traits with Su L7 Aq if the MEP is as suspected. It shows show fantastic affluence through investments as well. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:38 AM Re: Warren Buffett My dear Esteemed Professor and Vyas, Leo ascendant folk (myself included) have a unique look, especially when the Sun influences the ascendant or 2nd house (face) closely. One can expect a wider face with strong bone structure therein. The nose may be prominent and somewhat wide. Mr. Buffett also has a strong forehead, which is consistent with other Leo's. Hence my initial assessment was Leo. Being one, I know one when I see one Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello Vyas, Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. Best wishes, - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM Re: Warren Buffett > Dear Professor, > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the world > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > My dear Vyas, > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > Leo > Virgo > Libra > Pisces > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. > > What do you think? > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the > chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. > > If this helps the discussion... > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many > years > ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed > with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him > better, contact-wise. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > On Behalf > Of Arun Rao > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > Thank you for your efforts. > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general > overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, > it > becomes guesswork. > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously > we > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. > > But deeper examination is needed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK > " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: > Dear Vyas, > > Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous > message. > > Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in > a > successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no > trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list > members > have a better luck. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > HYPERLINK > " %40 " > [HYPERLINK > " %40 " ] On Behalf Of > Vyas Munidas > terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 > HYPERLINK " %40 " > Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > Dear Jorge, > > Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this > chart. > He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a > timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes > that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other > esteemed > members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. > > Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST > > 1944: (14 years old) > invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland > > 1945: (15 years old) > first job > > 1947: (17 years old) > freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. > > 1950: (20 years old) > Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at > Columbia. > > 1952: (22 years old) > Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female > > 1954: (24 years old) > New job with Graham > Second child, male > > 1956: (26 years old) > Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett > family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett > Associates, > Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a > total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of > the year, > > 1957: (27 years old) > Third child, Peter, > Purchased a five-bedroom house > > 1960: (30 years old) > Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who > will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, > 11 > doctors agreed to invest. > > 1961: (31 years old) > With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million > investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. > > 1965: (35 years old) > Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) > > 1968: (38 years old) > Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts > college in Iowa. > > 1969: (39 years old) > Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and > liquidated its assets to his partners. > > 1971: (41 years old) > At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna > Beach. > > 1974: (44 years old) > Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio > began > to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. > Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into > Warren > GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the > investigation. > > 1977: (47 years old) > Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. > Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing > paper. > Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This > caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. > > 1983: (53 years old) > Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the > first > time. > > 1988: (58 years old) > Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up > to > 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of > Berkshire's most lucrative investments. > > 1989: (59 years old) > Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth > rose > with it to $3.8 billion. > > 1997: (67 years old) > Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at > about $6 per ounce. > > 2002: (72 years old) > Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US > dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these > contracts was over $2 billion. > > 2003: (73 years old) > By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 > million dollars. > Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted > by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for > President in 2004.[14] > > 2004: (74 years old) > Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola > Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of > interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy > buyers > of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor > Pepsi? " > > 2005: (75 years old) > The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar > strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance > divisions. > > 2006: (76 years old) > > Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re > Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American > International Group. > Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has > ever made outside of the United States. > Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about > $37 > billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of > stock starting in July 2006. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK > " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> > <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> > Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the > > possibility > > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > [HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On > > Behalf > > Of Vyas Munidas > > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > > > > > Dearest Jorge (and list), > > > > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows > > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 > > > > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 Budapest, > > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 > > > > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please take > > a > > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: > 28.07.2006 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: > 31.07.2006 > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 Dear Vyas, Glad to help if I can. I am at work, so it will take a while. Also, the book doesn't always list exact dates. The date for the father's passing is as Arun said, 4/30/1964. I believe went by the 1966 date in the list provided in examining the father's death. Some significant dates I found so far- Father's bank closed and he last job and all savings- Aug 13, 1931 in Omaha, Nebraska. Family fortunes improved gradually and they moved into a bigger home when Warren was 6. Older sister born in 1928-no date. Younger sister is 3 years younger than Warren, no date. Married- 3rd Saturday in April, 1952- Omaha, Nebraska. Gained control of Berkshire/Hathaway at a board meeting-May 10, 1965, Bedford Massachusetts, becoming chairman of the executive comittee and installing Ken Chace as president. I'll have more later- Sheri Powers Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Sheri, Please if you have the time, from the book provide us with dates of: 1) Birth of his three children 2) Death of father and mother 3) Separation from wife 4) Scandals involving the SEC and other bodies into his activities 5) Anything else that is significant (broken limbs, accidents, etc) Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:33 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear List, Vyas got me interested in Warren Buffett, and I checked out the book " Buffet, The Making of an American Capitalist " by Roger Lowenstein, at the library. The book has a lot of good personal information, though no birth time. On Aug 13, 1931, Warren's father's bank where he worked closed, and he lost his job and all savings. Also, Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. (perhaps debillitated moon in 4th-Oprah Winfrey, according to internet sources, is Leo with moon in fourth and had problems with mother). On Aug 13, 1931, the most afflicted ascendants for father were Leo, Sagittarius, and Aquarius. On Warren's date of birth, the ascendants with the most strong benefics were -Leo-5, Libra-4, Sagittarius-5, Aquarius-4, Aries-4, and Gemini-5. (This is keeping the MEP away from nodes). Leo, however, had the most combinations for wealth (benefics in or aspecting 2, 5, 11, and 9. Warren and family suffered poverty in his early years due to the depression, and this provided strong motivation to Warren- by the age of 5 he was stating he would grow up and be very rich. With the Leo ascendant,(depending on degree) Warren was born in Ketu subperiod, followed by weak Venus subperiod. If he is Leo, since the chart is so strong, the early weak sub periods provided strong motivation rather than hampering him in life. I was randomly checking a 6:40 birthtime which gave around 22 degrees Leo, but will check out 's suggestion of around 13 degrees rising. I will finish reading the book and check out the events against the other likely ascendants-I was strongly favoring a Leo ascendant, and glad to hear that the Professor and Arun see the same thing. But I will check out the other ascendant to make sure I am objective. I also saw strong possibility with Sagittarius and Aquarius. I really enjoy the list discussion-Sincerely, Sheri Powers Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: Dear Vyas, The nature of the prime determinant of profession should also be looked at. In the case of Leo, Mercury is the trader of the zodiac. Coupled with strong 5th/11th houses, a career in speculative activities seems to be a stronger possibility. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Arun, As you've pointed out Saturnian influence can give this frugality. How about an Aq asc? Certainly it would show strong Sun/Leo traits with Su L7 Aq if the MEP is as suspected. It shows show fantastic affluence through investments as well. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:38 AM Re: Warren Buffett My dear Esteemed Professor and Vyas, Leo ascendant folk (myself included) have a unique look, especially when the Sun influences the ascendant or 2nd house (face) closely. One can expect a wider face with strong bone structure therein. The nose may be prominent and somewhat wide. Mr. Buffett also has a strong forehead, which is consistent with other Leo's. Hence my initial assessment was Leo. Being one, I know one when I see one Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello Vyas, Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. Best wishes, - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM Re: Warren Buffett > Dear Professor, > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the world > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > My dear Vyas, > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > Leo > Virgo > Libra > Pisces > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. > > What do you think? > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the > chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. > > If this helps the discussion... > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many > years > ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed > with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him > better, contact-wise. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > On Behalf > Of Arun Rao > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > Thank you for your efforts. > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general > overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, > it > becomes guesswork. > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously > we > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. > > But deeper examination is needed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK > " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: > Dear Vyas, > > Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous > message. > > Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in > a > successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no > trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list > members > have a better luck. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > HYPERLINK > " %40 " > [HYPERLINK > " %40 " ] On Behalf Of > Vyas Munidas > terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 > HYPERLINK " %40 " > Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > Dear Jorge, > > Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this > chart. > He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a > timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes > that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other > esteemed > members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. > > Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST > > 1944: (14 years old) > invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland > > 1945: (15 years old) > first job > > 1947: (17 years old) > freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. > > 1950: (20 years old) > Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at > Columbia. > > 1952: (22 years old) > Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female > > 1954: (24 years old) > New job with Graham > Second child, male > > 1956: (26 years old) > Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett > family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett > Associates, > Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a > total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of > the year, > > 1957: (27 years old) > Third child, Peter, > Purchased a five-bedroom house > > 1960: (30 years old) > Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who > will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, > 11 > doctors agreed to invest. > > 1961: (31 years old) > With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million > investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. > > 1965: (35 years old) > Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) > > 1968: (38 years old) > Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts > college in Iowa. > > 1969: (39 years old) > Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and > liquidated its assets to his partners. > > 1971: (41 years old) > At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna > Beach. > > 1974: (44 years old) > Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio > began > to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. > Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into > Warren > GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the > investigation. > > 1977: (47 years old) > Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. > Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing > paper. > Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This > caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. > > 1983: (53 years old) > Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the > first > time. > > 1988: (58 years old) > Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up > to > 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of > Berkshire's most lucrative investments. > > 1989: (59 years old) > Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth > rose > with it to $3.8 billion. > > 1997: (67 years old) > Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at > about $6 per ounce. > > 2002: (72 years old) > Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US > dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these > contracts was over $2 billion. > > 2003: (73 years old) > By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 > million dollars. > Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted > by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for > President in 2004.[14] > > 2004: (74 years old) > Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola > Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of > interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy > buyers > of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor > Pepsi? " > > 2005: (75 years old) > The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar > strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance > divisions. > > 2006: (76 years old) > > Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re > Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American > International Group. > Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has > ever made outside of the United States. > Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about > $37 > billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of > stock starting in July 2006. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK > " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> > <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> > Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the > > possibility > > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > [HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On > > Behalf > > Of Vyas Munidas > > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > > > > > Dearest Jorge (and list), > > > > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows > > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 > > > > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 Budapest, > > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 > > > > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please take > > a > > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: > 28.07.2006 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: > 31.07.2006 > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 Dear Sheri, Thank you. I look forward to your posts on this. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace Friday, August 04, 2006 6:49 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Vyas, Glad to help if I can. I am at work, so it will take a while. Also, the book doesn't always list exact dates. The date for the father's passing is as Arun said, 4/30/1964. I believe went by the 1966 date in the list provided in examining the father's death. Some significant dates I found so far- Father's bank closed and he last job and all savings- Aug 13, 1931 in Omaha, Nebraska. Family fortunes improved gradually and they moved into a bigger home when Warren was 6. Older sister born in 1928-no date. Younger sister is 3 years younger than Warren, no date. Married- 3rd Saturday in April, 1952- Omaha, Nebraska. Gained control of Berkshire/Hathaway at a board meeting-May 10, 1965, Bedford Massachusetts, becoming chairman of the executive comittee and installing Ken Chace as president. I'll have more later- Sheri Powers Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Sheri, Please if you have the time, from the book provide us with dates of: 1) Birth of his three children 2) Death of father and mother 3) Separation from wife 4) Scandals involving the SEC and other bodies into his activities 5) Anything else that is significant (broken limbs, accidents, etc) Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:33 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear List, Vyas got me interested in Warren Buffett, and I checked out the book " Buffet, The Making of an American Capitalist " by Roger Lowenstein, at the library. The book has a lot of good personal information, though no birth time. On Aug 13, 1931, Warren's father's bank where he worked closed, and he lost his job and all savings. Also, Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. (perhaps debillitated moon in 4th-Oprah Winfrey, according to internet sources, is Leo with moon in fourth and had problems with mother). On Aug 13, 1931, the most afflicted ascendants for father were Leo, Sagittarius, and Aquarius. On Warren's date of birth, the ascendants with the most strong benefics were -Leo-5, Libra-4, Sagittarius-5, Aquarius-4, Aries-4, and Gemini-5. (This is keeping the MEP away from nodes). Leo, however, had the most combinations for wealth (benefics in or aspecting 2, 5, 11, and 9. Warren and family suffered poverty in his early years due to the depression, and this provided strong motivation to Warren- by the age of 5 he was stating he would grow up and be very rich. With the Leo ascendant,(depending on degree) Warren was born in Ketu subperiod, followed by weak Venus subperiod. If he is Leo, since the chart is so strong, the early weak sub periods provided strong motivation rather than hampering him in life. I was randomly checking a 6:40 birthtime which gave around 22 degrees Leo, but will check out 's suggestion of around 13 degrees rising. I will finish reading the book and check out the events against the other likely ascendants-I was strongly favoring a Leo ascendant, and glad to hear that the Professor and Arun see the same thing. But I will check out the other ascendant to make sure I am objective. I also saw strong possibility with Sagittarius and Aquarius. I really enjoy the list discussion-Sincerely, Sheri Powers Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: Dear Vyas, The nature of the prime determinant of profession should also be looked at. In the case of Leo, Mercury is the trader of the zodiac. Coupled with strong 5th/11th houses, a career in speculative activities seems to be a stronger possibility. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Arun, As you've pointed out Saturnian influence can give this frugality. How about an Aq asc? Certainly it would show strong Sun/Leo traits with Su L7 Aq if the MEP is as suspected. It shows show fantastic affluence through investments as well. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:38 AM Re: Warren Buffett My dear Esteemed Professor and Vyas, Leo ascendant folk (myself included) have a unique look, especially when the Sun influences the ascendant or 2nd house (face) closely. One can expect a wider face with strong bone structure therein. The nose may be prominent and somewhat wide. Mr. Buffett also has a strong forehead, which is consistent with other Leo's. Hence my initial assessment was Leo. Being one, I know one when I see one Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello Vyas, Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. Best wishes, - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM Re: Warren Buffett > Dear Professor, > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the world > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > My dear Vyas, > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > Leo > Virgo > Libra > Pisces > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. > > What do you think? > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the > chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. > > If this helps the discussion... > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many > years > ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed > with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him > better, contact-wise. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > On Behalf > Of Arun Rao > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > Thank you for your efforts. > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general > overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, > it > becomes guesswork. > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously > we > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. > > But deeper examination is needed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK > " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: > Dear Vyas, > > Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous > message. > > Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in > a > successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no > trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list > members > have a better luck. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > HYPERLINK > " %40 " > [HYPERLINK > " %40 " ] On Behalf Of > Vyas Munidas > terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 > HYPERLINK " %40 " > Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > Dear Jorge, > > Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this > chart. > He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a > timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes > that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other > esteemed > members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. > > Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST > > 1944: (14 years old) > invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland > > 1945: (15 years old) > first job > > 1947: (17 years old) > freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. > > 1950: (20 years old) > Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at > Columbia. > > 1952: (22 years old) > Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female > > 1954: (24 years old) > New job with Graham > Second child, male > > 1956: (26 years old) > Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett > family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett > Associates, > Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a > total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of > the year, > > 1957: (27 years old) > Third child, Peter, > Purchased a five-bedroom house > > 1960: (30 years old) > Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who > will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, > 11 > doctors agreed to invest. > > 1961: (31 years old) > With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million > investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. > > 1965: (35 years old) > Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) > > 1968: (38 years old) > Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts > college in Iowa. > > 1969: (39 years old) > Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and > liquidated its assets to his partners. > > 1971: (41 years old) > At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna > Beach. > > 1974: (44 years old) > Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio > began > to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. > Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into > Warren > GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the > investigation. > > 1977: (47 years old) > Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. > Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing > paper. > Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This > caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. > > 1983: (53 years old) > Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the > first > time. > > 1988: (58 years old) > Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up > to > 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of > Berkshire's most lucrative investments. > > 1989: (59 years old) > Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth > rose > with it to $3.8 billion. > > 1997: (67 years old) > Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at > about $6 per ounce. > > 2002: (72 years old) > Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US > dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these > contracts was over $2 billion. > > 2003: (73 years old) > By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 > million dollars. > Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted > by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for > President in 2004.[14] > > 2004: (74 years old) > Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola > Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of > interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy > buyers > of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor > Pepsi? " > > 2005: (75 years old) > The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar > strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance > divisions. > > 2006: (76 years old) > > Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re > Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American > International Group. > Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has > ever made outside of the United States. > Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about > $37 > billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of > stock starting in July 2006. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK > " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> > <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> > Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the > > possibility > > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > [HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On > > Behalf > > Of Vyas Munidas > > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > > > > > Dearest Jorge (and list), > > > > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows > > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 > > > > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 Budapest, > > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 > > > > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please take > > a > > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: > 28.07.2006 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: > 31.07.2006 > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 Hello dear Arun, When riches were the only factor, I also thought that he might be Leo. The other factors brought into light now are significant to be looked into. (i) It is the death of the father which indicates that he is likely to be born in Aquarius. Leo ascendant gives a long lived father. On the date of the death of father with Aquarius ascendant transit both transit Jupiter and transit Saturn were exactly under the aspect of transit Ketu and transit Rahu, respectively. Transit sub period lord Mars was in utter infancy. Transit Venus L9 was in utter infancy. (ii) The close impact of the Sun to the ascendant, placement of strong Saturn in 11H with mutual aspect of strong Mars and the close impact of strong Jupiter lord of the house of gains to the ascendant all are the strong factors for status. (iii) In Leo ascendant with weak Venus it would have been difficult for him to be an adventurous and long time entrepreneure. (iv) Mercury does not closely aspect MEP of 2H. (v) The Moon also has about 20% influence on the tenth and fourth house MEPs as per the proposed degree. Best wishes, www.YourNetAstrologer.com www.JyotishRemedies121.com A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018. (India) Phones: 91 124 - 2219240 Mobile 98110 16333 - " Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace Saturday, August 05, 2006 4:19 AM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Vyas, Glad to help if I can. I am at work, so it will take a while. Also, the book doesn't always list exact dates. The date for the father's passing is as Arun said, 4/30/1964. I believe went by the 1966 date in the list provided in examining the father's death. Some significant dates I found so far- Father's bank closed and he last job and all savings- Aug 13, 1931 in Omaha, Nebraska. Family fortunes improved gradually and they moved into a bigger home when Warren was 6. Older sister born in 1928-no date. Younger sister is 3 years younger than Warren, no date. Married- 3rd Saturday in April, 1952- Omaha, Nebraska. Gained control of Berkshire/Hathaway at a board meeting-May 10, 1965, Bedford Massachusetts, becoming chairman of the executive comittee and installing Ken Chace as president. I'll have more later- Sheri Powers Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Sheri, Please if you have the time, from the book provide us with dates of: 1) Birth of his three children 2) Death of father and mother 3) Separation from wife 4) Scandals involving the SEC and other bodies into his activities 5) Anything else that is significant (broken limbs, accidents, etc) Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:33 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear List, Vyas got me interested in Warren Buffett, and I checked out the book " Buffet, The Making of an American Capitalist " by Roger Lowenstein, at the library. The book has a lot of good personal information, though no birth time. On Aug 13, 1931, Warren's father's bank where he worked closed, and he lost his job and all savings. Also, Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. (perhaps debillitated moon in 4th-Oprah Winfrey, according to internet sources, is Leo with moon in fourth and had problems with mother). On Aug 13, 1931, the most afflicted ascendants for father were Leo, Sagittarius, and Aquarius. On Warren's date of birth, the ascendants with the most strong benefics were -Leo-5, Libra-4, Sagittarius-5, Aquarius-4, Aries-4, and Gemini-5. (This is keeping the MEP away from nodes). Leo, however, had the most combinations for wealth (benefics in or aspecting 2, 5, 11, and 9. Warren and family suffered poverty in his early years due to the depression, and this provided strong motivation to Warren- by the age of 5 he was stating he would grow up and be very rich. With the Leo ascendant,(depending on degree) Warren was born in Ketu subperiod, followed by weak Venus subperiod. If he is Leo, since the chart is so strong, the early weak sub periods provided strong motivation rather than hampering him in life. I was randomly checking a 6:40 birthtime which gave around 22 degrees Leo, but will check out 's suggestion of around 13 degrees rising. I will finish reading the book and check out the events against the other likely ascendants-I was strongly favoring a Leo ascendant, and glad to hear that the Professor and Arun see the same thing. But I will check out the other ascendant to make sure I am objective. I also saw strong possibility with Sagittarius and Aquarius. I really enjoy the list discussion-Sincerely, Sheri Powers Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: Dear Vyas, The nature of the prime determinant of profession should also be looked at. In the case of Leo, Mercury is the trader of the zodiac. Coupled with strong 5th/11th houses, a career in speculative activities seems to be a stronger possibility. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Arun, As you've pointed out Saturnian influence can give this frugality. How about an Aq asc? Certainly it would show strong Sun/Leo traits with Su L7 Aq if the MEP is as suspected. It shows show fantastic affluence through investments as well. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:38 AM Re: Warren Buffett My dear Esteemed Professor and Vyas, Leo ascendant folk (myself included) have a unique look, especially when the Sun influences the ascendant or 2nd house (face) closely. One can expect a wider face with strong bone structure therein. The nose may be prominent and somewhat wide. Mr. Buffett also has a strong forehead, which is consistent with other Leo's. Hence my initial assessment was Leo. Being one, I know one when I see one Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello Vyas, Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. Best wishes, - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM Re: Warren Buffett > Dear Professor, > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the world > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > My dear Vyas, > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > Leo > Virgo > Libra > Pisces > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. > > What do you think? > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the > chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. > > If this helps the discussion... > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many > years > ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed > with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him > better, contact-wise. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > On Behalf > Of Arun Rao > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > Thank you for your efforts. > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general > overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, > it > becomes guesswork. > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously > we > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. > > But deeper examination is needed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK > " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: > Dear Vyas, > > Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous > message. > > Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in > a > successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no > trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list > members > have a better luck. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > HYPERLINK > " %40 " > [HYPERLINK > " %40 " ] On Behalf Of > Vyas Munidas > terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 > HYPERLINK " %40 " > Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > Dear Jorge, > > Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this > chart. > He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a > timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes > that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other > esteemed > members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. > > Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST > > 1944: (14 years old) > invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland > > 1945: (15 years old) > first job > > 1947: (17 years old) > freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. > > 1950: (20 years old) > Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at > Columbia. > > 1952: (22 years old) > Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female > > 1954: (24 years old) > New job with Graham > Second child, male > > 1956: (26 years old) > Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett > family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett > Associates, > Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a > total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of > the year, > > 1957: (27 years old) > Third child, Peter, > Purchased a five-bedroom house > > 1960: (30 years old) > Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who > will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, > 11 > doctors agreed to invest. > > 1961: (31 years old) > With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million > investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. > > 1965: (35 years old) > Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) > > 1968: (38 years old) > Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts > college in Iowa. > > 1969: (39 years old) > Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and > liquidated its assets to his partners. > > 1971: (41 years old) > At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna > Beach. > > 1974: (44 years old) > Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio > began > to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. > Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into > Warren > GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the > investigation. > > 1977: (47 years old) > Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. > Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing > paper. > Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This > caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. > > 1983: (53 years old) > Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the > first > time. > > 1988: (58 years old) > Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up > to > 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of > Berkshire's most lucrative investments. > > 1989: (59 years old) > Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth > rose > with it to $3.8 billion. > > 1997: (67 years old) > Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at > about $6 per ounce. > > 2002: (72 years old) > Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US > dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these > contracts was over $2 billion. > > 2003: (73 years old) > By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 > million dollars. > Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted > by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for > President in 2004.[14] > > 2004: (74 years old) > Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola > Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of > interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy > buyers > of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor > Pepsi? " > > 2005: (75 years old) > The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar > strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance > divisions. > > 2006: (76 years old) > > Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re > Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American > International Group. > Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has > ever made outside of the United States. > Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about > $37 > billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of > stock starting in July 2006. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK > " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> > <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> > Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the > > possibility > > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > [HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On > > Behalf > > Of Vyas Munidas > > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > > > > > Dearest Jorge (and list), > > > > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows > > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 > > > > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 Budapest, > > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 > > > > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please take > > a > > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: > 28.07.2006 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: > 31.07.2006 > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 My dear Esteemed Professor, Thank you very much for laying out the reasons for Aquarius. I have a few questions still: When there is a close affliction to the 4th house MEP, should we favor the mother over the father as the affected party, or should both parents be included always? To what extent can the strength and influences of the Sun and Mars in the case of Leo making up for Venus' deficiency? How big of a role does the Leo ascendant w/a strong L1 play itself in overcoming Venus' weakness? 1974 and 1977 were particularly troublesome years for him. In 1974 he faced antitrust charges brought upon by the Securities and Exchange Commission, but was exonerated. His personal wealth declined by more than 50% that year, while the sub-period of strong L8 was running. Perhaps the placement of both the main and sub-period lords in the 8th house led to these obstructions, but the strong L8 should, in theory, have given large financial gains as well. In 1977, he separated from his spouse though they remained married. The sub-periods running during these years were Mercury and Ketu. The transit of the nodal axis over the weak/aff. natal Venus in 1977 along with the sub-period of Ketu in operation possibly led to the separation. Could you please shed any further light on these difficulties? Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello dear Arun, When riches were the only factor, I also thought that he might be Leo. The other factors brought into light now are significant to be looked into. (i) It is the death of the father which indicates that he is likely to be born in Aquarius. Leo ascendant gives a long lived father. On the date of the death of father with Aquarius ascendant transit both transit Jupiter and transit Saturn were exactly under the aspect of transit Ketu and transit Rahu, respectively. Transit sub period lord Mars was in utter infancy. Transit Venus L9 was in utter infancy. (ii) The close impact of the Sun to the ascendant, placement of strong Saturn in 11H with mutual aspect of strong Mars and the close impact of strong Jupiter lord of the house of gains to the ascendant all are the strong factors for status. (iii) In Leo ascendant with weak Venus it would have been difficult for him to be an adventurous and long time entrepreneure. (iv) Mercury does not closely aspect MEP of 2H. (v) The Moon also has about 20% influence on the tenth and fourth house MEPs as per the proposed degree. Best wishes, www.YourNetAstrologer.com www.JyotishRemedies121.com A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018. (India) Phones: 91 124 - 2219240 Mobile 98110 16333 - " Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace Saturday, August 05, 2006 4:19 AM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Vyas, Glad to help if I can. I am at work, so it will take a while. Also, the book doesn't always list exact dates. The date for the father's passing is as Arun said, 4/30/1964. I believe went by the 1966 date in the list provided in examining the father's death. Some significant dates I found so far- Father's bank closed and he last job and all savings- Aug 13, 1931 in Omaha, Nebraska. Family fortunes improved gradually and they moved into a bigger home when Warren was 6. Older sister born in 1928-no date. Younger sister is 3 years younger than Warren, no date. Married- 3rd Saturday in April, 1952- Omaha, Nebraska. Gained control of Berkshire/Hathaway at a board meeting-May 10, 1965, Bedford Massachusetts, becoming chairman of the executive comittee and installing Ken Chace as president. I'll have more later- Sheri Powers Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Sheri, Please if you have the time, from the book provide us with dates of: 1) Birth of his three children 2) Death of father and mother 3) Separation from wife 4) Scandals involving the SEC and other bodies into his activities 5) Anything else that is significant (broken limbs, accidents, etc) Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:33 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear List, Vyas got me interested in Warren Buffett, and I checked out the book " Buffet, The Making of an American Capitalist " by Roger Lowenstein, at the library. The book has a lot of good personal information, though no birth time. On Aug 13, 1931, Warren's father's bank where he worked closed, and he lost his job and all savings. Also, Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. (perhaps debillitated moon in 4th-Oprah Winfrey, according to internet sources, is Leo with moon in fourth and had problems with mother). On Aug 13, 1931, the most afflicted ascendants for father were Leo, Sagittarius, and Aquarius. On Warren's date of birth, the ascendants with the most strong benefics were -Leo-5, Libra-4, Sagittarius-5, Aquarius-4, Aries-4, and Gemini-5. (This is keeping the MEP away from nodes). Leo, however, had the most combinations for wealth (benefics in or aspecting 2, 5, 11, and 9. Warren and family suffered poverty in his early years due to the depression, and this provided strong motivation to Warren- by the age of 5 he was stating he would grow up and be very rich. With the Leo ascendant,(depending on degree) Warren was born in Ketu subperiod, followed by weak Venus subperiod. If he is Leo, since the chart is so strong, the early weak sub periods provided strong motivation rather than hampering him in life. I was randomly checking a 6:40 birthtime which gave around 22 degrees Leo, but will check out 's suggestion of around 13 degrees rising. I will finish reading the book and check out the events against the other likely ascendants-I was strongly favoring a Leo ascendant, and glad to hear that the Professor and Arun see the same thing. But I will check out the other ascendant to make sure I am objective. I also saw strong possibility with Sagittarius and Aquarius. I really enjoy the list discussion-Sincerely, Sheri Powers Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: Dear Vyas, The nature of the prime determinant of profession should also be looked at. In the case of Leo, Mercury is the trader of the zodiac. Coupled with strong 5th/11th houses, a career in speculative activities seems to be a stronger possibility. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Arun, As you've pointed out Saturnian influence can give this frugality. How about an Aq asc? Certainly it would show strong Sun/Leo traits with Su L7 Aq if the MEP is as suspected. It shows show fantastic affluence through investments as well. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:38 AM Re: Warren Buffett My dear Esteemed Professor and Vyas, Leo ascendant folk (myself included) have a unique look, especially when the Sun influences the ascendant or 2nd house (face) closely. One can expect a wider face with strong bone structure therein. The nose may be prominent and somewhat wide. Mr. Buffett also has a strong forehead, which is consistent with other Leo's. Hence my initial assessment was Leo. Being one, I know one when I see one Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello Vyas, Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. Best wishes, - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM Re: Warren Buffett > Dear Professor, > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the world > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > My dear Vyas, > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > Leo > Virgo > Libra > Pisces > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. > > What do you think? > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the > chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. > > If this helps the discussion... > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many > years > ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed > with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him > better, contact-wise. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > On Behalf > Of Arun Rao > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > Thank you for your efforts. > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general > overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, > it > becomes guesswork. > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously > we > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. > > But deeper examination is needed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK > " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: > Dear Vyas, > > Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous > message. > > Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in > a > successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no > trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list > members > have a better luck. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > HYPERLINK > " %40 " > [HYPERLINK > " %40 " ] On Behalf Of > Vyas Munidas > terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 > HYPERLINK " %40 " > Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > Dear Jorge, > > Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this > chart. > He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a > timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes > that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other > esteemed > members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. > > Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST > > 1944: (14 years old) > invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland > > 1945: (15 years old) > first job > > 1947: (17 years old) > freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. > > 1950: (20 years old) > Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at > Columbia. > > 1952: (22 years old) > Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female > > 1954: (24 years old) > New job with Graham > Second child, male > > 1956: (26 years old) > Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett > family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett > Associates, > Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a > total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of > the year, > > 1957: (27 years old) > Third child, Peter, > Purchased a five-bedroom house > > 1960: (30 years old) > Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who > will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, > 11 > doctors agreed to invest. > > 1961: (31 years old) > With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million > investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. > > 1965: (35 years old) > Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) > > 1968: (38 years old) > Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts > college in Iowa. > > 1969: (39 years old) > Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and > liquidated its assets to his partners. > > 1971: (41 years old) > At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna > Beach. > > 1974: (44 years old) > Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio > began > to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. > Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into > Warren > GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the > investigation. > > 1977: (47 years old) > Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. > Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing > paper. > Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This > caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. > > 1983: (53 years old) > Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the > first > time. > > 1988: (58 years old) > Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up > to > 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of > Berkshire's most lucrative investments. > > 1989: (59 years old) > Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth > rose > with it to $3.8 billion. > > 1997: (67 years old) > Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at > about $6 per ounce. > > 2002: (72 years old) > Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US > dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these > contracts was over $2 billion. > > 2003: (73 years old) > By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 > million dollars. > Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted > by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for > President in 2004.[14] > > 2004: (74 years old) > Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola > Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of > interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy > buyers > of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor > Pepsi? " > > 2005: (75 years old) > The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar > strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance > divisions. > > 2006: (76 years old) > > Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re > Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American > International Group. > Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has > ever made outside of the United States. > Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about > $37 > billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of > stock starting in July 2006. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK > " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> > <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> > Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the > > possibility > > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > [HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On > > Behalf > > Of Vyas Munidas > > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > > > > > Dearest Jorge (and list), > > > > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows > > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 > > > > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 Budapest, > > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 > > > > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please take > > a > > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: > 28.07.2006 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: > 31.07.2006 > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 Dear Vyas, Here is more information on Buffett. Unfortunately, the book is somewhat vague on some of the dates. His first child, Susie was born around 1952, 2nd child Howard around 1954, and 3rd child, Peter around 1956. The SEC investigation about Westco and Blue Chip- " first hint of trouble " was in the fall of 1974. Buffett's partner, Munger appeared before the SEC in March, 1975, the case dragged on through 1975, In December 1975, Buffett's lawyer pleaded for an end to the case, some time in 1976 the SEC settled, Blue Chip (Buffett and Munger's com.) had to pay 115,000 but no action against Buffett.(Buffett was always calm and did very well in testifying, and didn't appear upset about investigation, and he was appointed to a panel by SEC shortly after the invest. concluded.) In 1973, Buffett began buying stock in the Washington Post. He became friends with Katherine Graham, the publisher/owner, became a director (with 10 % of the stock) on the board in the fall of 1974,(coming onto the social scene of Washington around this time) and stayed 11 years, greatly increasing profitability of the paper. In Nov 1976, Buffett(25%) and Soloman Brothers underwrote GEICO Insurance for 76 million, saving the company, and since the stock was really cheap, later making a huge profit. Buffett's wife Susie, left in late 1977 early 1978 (sorry the book was vague about the dates) and moved to San Francisco. Buffett was depressed about a year. Susie encouraged other women to visit Buffett, and within a year of her leaving, Astrid Menks and Warren began dating and she moved in with him. Buffett and his wife traveled together, and Susie was friendly with Astrid. Buffett recovered and was happy. No mention of divorce yet in the book, maybe they never divorced. I will write more later--Sheri Powers Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Sheri, Thank you. I look forward to your posts on this. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace Friday, August 04, 2006 6:49 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Vyas, Glad to help if I can. I am at work, so it will take a while. Also, the book doesn't always list exact dates. The date for the father's passing is as Arun said, 4/30/1964. I believe went by the 1966 date in the list provided in examining the father's death. Some significant dates I found so far- Father's bank closed and he last job and all savings- Aug 13, 1931 in Omaha, Nebraska. Family fortunes improved gradually and they moved into a bigger home when Warren was 6. Older sister born in 1928-no date. Younger sister is 3 years younger than Warren, no date. Married- 3rd Saturday in April, 1952- Omaha, Nebraska. Gained control of Berkshire/Hathaway at a board meeting-May 10, 1965, Bedford Massachusetts, becoming chairman of the executive comittee and installing Ken Chace as president. I'll have more later- Sheri Powers Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Sheri, Please if you have the time, from the book provide us with dates of: 1) Birth of his three children 2) Death of father and mother 3) Separation from wife 4) Scandals involving the SEC and other bodies into his activities 5) Anything else that is significant (broken limbs, accidents, etc) Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:33 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear List, Vyas got me interested in Warren Buffett, and I checked out the book " Buffet, The Making of an American Capitalist " by Roger Lowenstein, at the library. The book has a lot of good personal information, though no birth time. On Aug 13, 1931, Warren's father's bank where he worked closed, and he lost his job and all savings. Also, Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. (perhaps debillitated moon in 4th-Oprah Winfrey, according to internet sources, is Leo with moon in fourth and had problems with mother). On Aug 13, 1931, the most afflicted ascendants for father were Leo, Sagittarius, and Aquarius. On Warren's date of birth, the ascendants with the most strong benefics were -Leo-5, Libra-4, Sagittarius-5, Aquarius-4, Aries-4, and Gemini-5. (This is keeping the MEP away from nodes). Leo, however, had the most combinations for wealth (benefics in or aspecting 2, 5, 11, and 9. Warren and family suffered poverty in his early years due to the depression, and this provided strong motivation to Warren- by the age of 5 he was stating he would grow up and be very rich. With the Leo ascendant,(depending on degree) Warren was born in Ketu subperiod, followed by weak Venus subperiod. If he is Leo, since the chart is so strong, the early weak sub periods provided strong motivation rather than hampering him in life. I was randomly checking a 6:40 birthtime which gave around 22 degrees Leo, but will check out 's suggestion of around 13 degrees rising. I will finish reading the book and check out the events against the other likely ascendants-I was strongly favoring a Leo ascendant, and glad to hear that the Professor and Arun see the same thing. But I will check out the other ascendant to make sure I am objective. I also saw strong possibility with Sagittarius and Aquarius. I really enjoy the list discussion-Sincerely, Sheri Powers Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: Dear Vyas, The nature of the prime determinant of profession should also be looked at. In the case of Leo, Mercury is the trader of the zodiac. Coupled with strong 5th/11th houses, a career in speculative activities seems to be a stronger possibility. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Arun, As you've pointed out Saturnian influence can give this frugality. How about an Aq asc? Certainly it would show strong Sun/Leo traits with Su L7 Aq if the MEP is as suspected. It shows show fantastic affluence through investments as well. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:38 AM Re: Warren Buffett My dear Esteemed Professor and Vyas, Leo ascendant folk (myself included) have a unique look, especially when the Sun influences the ascendant or 2nd house (face) closely. One can expect a wider face with strong bone structure therein. The nose may be prominent and somewhat wide. Mr. Buffett also has a strong forehead, which is consistent with other Leo's. Hence my initial assessment was Leo. Being one, I know one when I see one Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello Vyas, Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. Best wishes, - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM Re: Warren Buffett > Dear Professor, > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the world > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > My dear Vyas, > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > Leo > Virgo > Libra > Pisces > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. > > What do you think? > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the > chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. > > If this helps the discussion... > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many > years > ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed > with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him > better, contact-wise. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > On Behalf > Of Arun Rao > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > Thank you for your efforts. > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general > overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, > it > becomes guesswork. > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously > we > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. > > But deeper examination is needed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK > " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: > Dear Vyas, > > Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous > message. > > Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in > a > successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no > trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list > members > have a better luck. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > HYPERLINK > " %40 " > [HYPERLINK > " %40 " ] On Behalf Of > Vyas Munidas > terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 > HYPERLINK " %40 " > Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > Dear Jorge, > > Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this > chart. > He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a > timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes > that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other > esteemed > members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. > > Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST > > 1944: (14 years old) > invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland > > 1945: (15 years old) > first job > > 1947: (17 years old) > freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. > > 1950: (20 years old) > Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at > Columbia. > > 1952: (22 years old) > Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female > > 1954: (24 years old) > New job with Graham > Second child, male > > 1956: (26 years old) > Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett > family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett > Associates, > Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a > total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of > the year, > > 1957: (27 years old) > Third child, Peter, > Purchased a five-bedroom house > > 1960: (30 years old) > Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who > will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, > 11 > doctors agreed to invest. > > 1961: (31 years old) > With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million > investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. > > 1965: (35 years old) > Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) > > 1968: (38 years old) > Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts > college in Iowa. > > 1969: (39 years old) > Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and > liquidated its assets to his partners. > > 1971: (41 years old) > At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna > Beach. > > 1974: (44 years old) > Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio > began > to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. > Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into > Warren > GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the > investigation. > > 1977: (47 years old) > Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. > Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing > paper. > Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This > caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. > > 1983: (53 years old) > Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the > first > time. > > 1988: (58 years old) > Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up > to > 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of > Berkshire's most lucrative investments. > > 1989: (59 years old) > Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth > rose > with it to $3.8 billion. > > 1997: (67 years old) > Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at > about $6 per ounce. > > 2002: (72 years old) > Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US > dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these > contracts was over $2 billion. > > 2003: (73 years old) > By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 > million dollars. > Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted > by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for > President in 2004.[14] > > 2004: (74 years old) > Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola > Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of > interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy > buyers > of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor > Pepsi? " > > 2005: (75 years old) > The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar > strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance > divisions. > > 2006: (76 years old) > > Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re > Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American > International Group. > Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has > ever made outside of the United States. > Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about > $37 > billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of > stock starting in July 2006. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK > " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> > <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> > Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the > > possibility > > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > [HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On > > Behalf > > Of Vyas Munidas > > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > > > > > Dearest Jorge (and list), > > > > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows > > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 > > > > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 Budapest, > > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 > > > > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please take > > a > > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: > 28.07.2006 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: > 31.07.2006 > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 Dear Esteemed Professor, In the case of Leo or Aquarius Asc., when the Moon is weak or badly placed or afflicted, can the strength of L9 compensate for its weakness and, if so, to what degree? Many thanks. Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello dear Arun, When riches were the only factor, I also thought that he might be Leo. The other factors brought into light now are significant to be looked into. (i) It is the death of the father which indicates that he is likely to be born in Aquarius. Leo ascendant gives a long lived father. On the date of the death of father with Aquarius ascendant transit both transit Jupiter and transit Saturn were exactly under the aspect of transit Ketu and transit Rahu, respectively. Transit sub period lord Mars was in utter infancy. Transit Venus L9 was in utter infancy. (ii) The close impact of the Sun to the ascendant, placement of strong Saturn in 11H with mutual aspect of strong Mars and the close impact of strong Jupiter lord of the house of gains to the ascendant all are the strong factors for status. (iii) In Leo ascendant with weak Venus it would have been difficult for him to be an adventurous and long time entrepreneure. (iv) Mercury does not closely aspect MEP of 2H. (v) The Moon also has about 20% influence on the tenth and fourth house MEPs as per the proposed degree. Best wishes, www.YourNetAstrologer.com www.JyotishRemedies121.com A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018. (India) Phones: 91 124 - 2219240 Mobile 98110 16333 - " Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace Saturday, August 05, 2006 4:19 AM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Vyas, Glad to help if I can. I am at work, so it will take a while. Also, the book doesn't always list exact dates. The date for the father's passing is as Arun said, 4/30/1964. I believe went by the 1966 date in the list provided in examining the father's death. Some significant dates I found so far- Father's bank closed and he last job and all savings- Aug 13, 1931 in Omaha, Nebraska. Family fortunes improved gradually and they moved into a bigger home when Warren was 6. Older sister born in 1928-no date. Younger sister is 3 years younger than Warren, no date. Married- 3rd Saturday in April, 1952- Omaha, Nebraska. Gained control of Berkshire/Hathaway at a board meeting-May 10, 1965, Bedford Massachusetts, becoming chairman of the executive comittee and installing Ken Chace as president. I'll have more later- Sheri Powers Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Sheri, Please if you have the time, from the book provide us with dates of: 1) Birth of his three children 2) Death of father and mother 3) Separation from wife 4) Scandals involving the SEC and other bodies into his activities 5) Anything else that is significant (broken limbs, accidents, etc) Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:33 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear List, Vyas got me interested in Warren Buffett, and I checked out the book " Buffet, The Making of an American Capitalist " by Roger Lowenstein, at the library. The book has a lot of good personal information, though no birth time. On Aug 13, 1931, Warren's father's bank where he worked closed, and he lost his job and all savings. Also, Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. (perhaps debillitated moon in 4th-Oprah Winfrey, according to internet sources, is Leo with moon in fourth and had problems with mother). On Aug 13, 1931, the most afflicted ascendants for father were Leo, Sagittarius, and Aquarius. On Warren's date of birth, the ascendants with the most strong benefics were -Leo-5, Libra-4, Sagittarius-5, Aquarius-4, Aries-4, and Gemini-5. (This is keeping the MEP away from nodes). Leo, however, had the most combinations for wealth (benefics in or aspecting 2, 5, 11, and 9. Warren and family suffered poverty in his early years due to the depression, and this provided strong motivation to Warren- by the age of 5 he was stating he would grow up and be very rich. With the Leo ascendant,(depending on degree) Warren was born in Ketu subperiod, followed by weak Venus subperiod. If he is Leo, since the chart is so strong, the early weak sub periods provided strong motivation rather than hampering him in life. I was randomly checking a 6:40 birthtime which gave around 22 degrees Leo, but will check out 's suggestion of around 13 degrees rising. I will finish reading the book and check out the events against the other likely ascendants-I was strongly favoring a Leo ascendant, and glad to hear that the Professor and Arun see the same thing. But I will check out the other ascendant to make sure I am objective. I also saw strong possibility with Sagittarius and Aquarius. I really enjoy the list discussion-Sincerely, Sheri Powers Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: Dear Vyas, The nature of the prime determinant of profession should also be looked at. In the case of Leo, Mercury is the trader of the zodiac. Coupled with strong 5th/11th houses, a career in speculative activities seems to be a stronger possibility. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Arun, As you've pointed out Saturnian influence can give this frugality. How about an Aq asc? Certainly it would show strong Sun/Leo traits with Su L7 Aq if the MEP is as suspected. It shows show fantastic affluence through investments as well. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:38 AM Re: Warren Buffett My dear Esteemed Professor and Vyas, Leo ascendant folk (myself included) have a unique look, especially when the Sun influences the ascendant or 2nd house (face) closely. One can expect a wider face with strong bone structure therein. The nose may be prominent and somewhat wide. Mr. Buffett also has a strong forehead, which is consistent with other Leo's. Hence my initial assessment was Leo. Being one, I know one when I see one Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello Vyas, Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. Best wishes, - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM Re: Warren Buffett > Dear Professor, > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the world > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > My dear Vyas, > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > Leo > Virgo > Libra > Pisces > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. > > What do you think? > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the > chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. > > If this helps the discussion... > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many > years > ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed > with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him > better, contact-wise. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > On Behalf > Of Arun Rao > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > Thank you for your efforts. > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general > overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, > it > becomes guesswork. > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously > we > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. > > But deeper examination is needed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK > " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: > Dear Vyas, > > Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous > message. > > Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in > a > successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no > trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list > members > have a better luck. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > HYPERLINK > " %40 " > [HYPERLINK > " %40 " ] On Behalf Of > Vyas Munidas > terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 > HYPERLINK " %40 " > Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > Dear Jorge, > > Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this > chart. > He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a > timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes > that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other > esteemed > members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. > > Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST > > 1944: (14 years old) > invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland > > 1945: (15 years old) > first job > > 1947: (17 years old) > freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. > > 1950: (20 years old) > Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at > Columbia. > > 1952: (22 years old) > Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female > > 1954: (24 years old) > New job with Graham > Second child, male > > 1956: (26 years old) > Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett > family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett > Associates, > Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a > total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of > the year, > > 1957: (27 years old) > Third child, Peter, > Purchased a five-bedroom house > > 1960: (30 years old) > Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who > will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, > 11 > doctors agreed to invest. > > 1961: (31 years old) > With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million > investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. > > 1965: (35 years old) > Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) > > 1968: (38 years old) > Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts > college in Iowa. > > 1969: (39 years old) > Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and > liquidated its assets to his partners. > > 1971: (41 years old) > At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna > Beach. > > 1974: (44 years old) > Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio > began > to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. > Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into > Warren > GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the > investigation. > > 1977: (47 years old) > Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. > Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing > paper. > Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This > caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. > > 1983: (53 years old) > Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the > first > time. > > 1988: (58 years old) > Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up > to > 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of > Berkshire's most lucrative investments. > > 1989: (59 years old) > Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth > rose > with it to $3.8 billion. > > 1997: (67 years old) > Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at > about $6 per ounce. > > 2002: (72 years old) > Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US > dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these > contracts was over $2 billion. > > 2003: (73 years old) > By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 > million dollars. > Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted > by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for > President in 2004.[14] > > 2004: (74 years old) > Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola > Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of > interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy > buyers > of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor > Pepsi? " > > 2005: (75 years old) > The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar > strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance > divisions. > > 2006: (76 years old) > > Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re > Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American > International Group. > Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has > ever made outside of the United States. > Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about > $37 > billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of > stock starting in July 2006. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK > " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> > <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> > Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the > > possibility > > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > [HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On > > Behalf > > Of Vyas Munidas > > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > > > > > Dearest Jorge (and list), > > > > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows > > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 > > > > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 Budapest, > > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 > > > > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please take > > a > > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: > 28.07.2006 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: > 31.07.2006 > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 Dear Esteemed Professor, With my question below, I am referring to the signification of the mother and parents in general only in reference to the role of L9 when the Moon is weak. Many thanks. Best Wishes, Arun Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: Dear Esteemed Professor, In the case of Leo or Aquarius Asc., when the Moon is weak or badly placed or afflicted, can the strength of L9 compensate for its weakness and, if so, to what degree? Many thanks. Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello dear Arun, When riches were the only factor, I also thought that he might be Leo. The other factors brought into light now are significant to be looked into. (i) It is the death of the father which indicates that he is likely to be born in Aquarius. Leo ascendant gives a long lived father. On the date of the death of father with Aquarius ascendant transit both transit Jupiter and transit Saturn were exactly under the aspect of transit Ketu and transit Rahu, respectively. Transit sub period lord Mars was in utter infancy. Transit Venus L9 was in utter infancy. (ii) The close impact of the Sun to the ascendant, placement of strong Saturn in 11H with mutual aspect of strong Mars and the close impact of strong Jupiter lord of the house of gains to the ascendant all are the strong factors for status. (iii) In Leo ascendant with weak Venus it would have been difficult for him to be an adventurous and long time entrepreneure. (iv) Mercury does not closely aspect MEP of 2H. (v) The Moon also has about 20% influence on the tenth and fourth house MEPs as per the proposed degree. Best wishes, www.YourNetAstrologer.com www.JyotishRemedies121.com A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018. (India) Phones: 91 124 - 2219240 Mobile 98110 16333 - " Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace Saturday, August 05, 2006 4:19 AM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Vyas, Glad to help if I can. I am at work, so it will take a while. Also, the book doesn't always list exact dates. The date for the father's passing is as Arun said, 4/30/1964. I believe went by the 1966 date in the list provided in examining the father's death. Some significant dates I found so far- Father's bank closed and he last job and all savings- Aug 13, 1931 in Omaha, Nebraska. Family fortunes improved gradually and they moved into a bigger home when Warren was 6. Older sister born in 1928-no date. Younger sister is 3 years younger than Warren, no date. Married- 3rd Saturday in April, 1952- Omaha, Nebraska. Gained control of Berkshire/Hathaway at a board meeting-May 10, 1965, Bedford Massachusetts, becoming chairman of the executive comittee and installing Ken Chace as president. I'll have more later- Sheri Powers Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Sheri, Please if you have the time, from the book provide us with dates of: 1) Birth of his three children 2) Death of father and mother 3) Separation from wife 4) Scandals involving the SEC and other bodies into his activities 5) Anything else that is significant (broken limbs, accidents, etc) Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:33 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear List, Vyas got me interested in Warren Buffett, and I checked out the book " Buffet, The Making of an American Capitalist " by Roger Lowenstein, at the library. The book has a lot of good personal information, though no birth time. On Aug 13, 1931, Warren's father's bank where he worked closed, and he lost his job and all savings. Also, Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. (perhaps debillitated moon in 4th-Oprah Winfrey, according to internet sources, is Leo with moon in fourth and had problems with mother). On Aug 13, 1931, the most afflicted ascendants for father were Leo, Sagittarius, and Aquarius. On Warren's date of birth, the ascendants with the most strong benefics were -Leo-5, Libra-4, Sagittarius-5, Aquarius-4, Aries-4, and Gemini-5. (This is keeping the MEP away from nodes). Leo, however, had the most combinations for wealth (benefics in or aspecting 2, 5, 11, and 9. Warren and family suffered poverty in his early years due to the depression, and this provided strong motivation to Warren- by the age of 5 he was stating he would grow up and be very rich. With the Leo ascendant,(depending on degree) Warren was born in Ketu subperiod, followed by weak Venus subperiod. If he is Leo, since the chart is so strong, the early weak sub periods provided strong motivation rather than hampering him in life. I was randomly checking a 6:40 birthtime which gave around 22 degrees Leo, but will check out 's suggestion of around 13 degrees rising. I will finish reading the book and check out the events against the other likely ascendants-I was strongly favoring a Leo ascendant, and glad to hear that the Professor and Arun see the same thing. But I will check out the other ascendant to make sure I am objective. I also saw strong possibility with Sagittarius and Aquarius. I really enjoy the list discussion-Sincerely, Sheri Powers Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: Dear Vyas, The nature of the prime determinant of profession should also be looked at. In the case of Leo, Mercury is the trader of the zodiac. Coupled with strong 5th/11th houses, a career in speculative activities seems to be a stronger possibility. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Arun, As you've pointed out Saturnian influence can give this frugality. How about an Aq asc? Certainly it would show strong Sun/Leo traits with Su L7 Aq if the MEP is as suspected. It shows show fantastic affluence through investments as well. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:38 AM Re: Warren Buffett My dear Esteemed Professor and Vyas, Leo ascendant folk (myself included) have a unique look, especially when the Sun influences the ascendant or 2nd house (face) closely. One can expect a wider face with strong bone structure therein. The nose may be prominent and somewhat wide. Mr. Buffett also has a strong forehead, which is consistent with other Leo's. Hence my initial assessment was Leo. Being one, I know one when I see one Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello Vyas, Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. Best wishes, - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM Re: Warren Buffett > Dear Professor, > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the world > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > My dear Vyas, > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > Leo > Virgo > Libra > Pisces > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. > > What do you think? > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the > chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. > > If this helps the discussion... > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many > years > ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed > with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him > better, contact-wise. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > On Behalf > Of Arun Rao > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > Thank you for your efforts. > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general > overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, > it > becomes guesswork. > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously > we > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. > > But deeper examination is needed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK > " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: > Dear Vyas, > > Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous > message. > > Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in > a > successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no > trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list > members > have a better luck. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > HYPERLINK > " %40 " > [HYPERLINK > " %40 " ] On Behalf Of > Vyas Munidas > terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 > HYPERLINK " %40 " > Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > Dear Jorge, > > Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this > chart. > He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a > timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes > that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other > esteemed > members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. > > Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST > > 1944: (14 years old) > invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland > > 1945: (15 years old) > first job > > 1947: (17 years old) > freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. > > 1950: (20 years old) > Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at > Columbia. > > 1952: (22 years old) > Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female > > 1954: (24 years old) > New job with Graham > Second child, male > > 1956: (26 years old) > Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett > family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett > Associates, > Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a > total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of > the year, > > 1957: (27 years old) > Third child, Peter, > Purchased a five-bedroom house > > 1960: (30 years old) > Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who > will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, > 11 > doctors agreed to invest. > > 1961: (31 years old) > With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million > investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. > > 1965: (35 years old) > Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) > > 1968: (38 years old) > Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts > college in Iowa. > > 1969: (39 years old) > Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and > liquidated its assets to his partners. > > 1971: (41 years old) > At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna > Beach. > > 1974: (44 years old) > Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio > began > to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. > Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into > Warren > GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the > investigation. > > 1977: (47 years old) > Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. > Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing > paper. > Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This > caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. > > 1983: (53 years old) > Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the > first > time. > > 1988: (58 years old) > Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up > to > 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of > Berkshire's most lucrative investments. > > 1989: (59 years old) > Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth > rose > with it to $3.8 billion. > > 1997: (67 years old) > Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at > about $6 per ounce. > > 2002: (72 years old) > Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US > dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these > contracts was over $2 billion. > > 2003: (73 years old) > By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 > million dollars. > Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted > by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for > President in 2004.[14] > > 2004: (74 years old) > Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola > Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of > interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy > buyers > of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor > Pepsi? " > > 2005: (75 years old) > The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar > strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance > divisions. > > 2006: (76 years old) > > Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re > Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American > International Group. > Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has > ever made outside of the United States. > Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about > $37 > billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of > stock starting in July 2006. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK > " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> > <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> > Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the > > possibility > > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > [HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On > > Behalf > > Of Vyas Munidas > > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > > > > > Dearest Jorge (and list), > > > > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows > > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 > > > > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 Budapest, > > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 > > > > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please take > > a > > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: > 28.07.2006 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: > 31.07.2006 > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 Dear Vyas, Here is more information I got from searching the web. Buffett's wife Susan died on either July 29 or July 30, 2004 from a stroke, I believe in San Francisco. Mother Leila died in 1996 (no date) at the age of 92, probably in Omaha. Children's birthdates-(I think in Omaha)Susan Alice Buffett-born July 30, 1953, Howard Graham Buffett-born Dec 16, 1954,(actually, I read Howard was born shortly after they moved to New York-they lived there two years) Peter Andrew Buffett-born May 4, 1958. Hope this helps- Sheri Sheri Powers <mermaidslace wrote: Dear Vyas, Here is more information on Buffett. Unfortunately, the book is somewhat vague on some of the dates. His first child, Susie was born around 1952, 2nd child Howard around 1954, and 3rd child, Peter around 1956. The SEC investigation about Westco and Blue Chip- " first hint of trouble " was in the fall of 1974. Buffett's partner, Munger appeared before the SEC in March, 1975, the case dragged on through 1975, In December 1975, Buffett's lawyer pleaded for an end to the case, some time in 1976 the SEC settled, Blue Chip (Buffett and Munger's com.) had to pay 115,000 but no action against Buffett.(Buffett was always calm and did very well in testifying, and didn't appear upset about investigation, and he was appointed to a panel by SEC shortly after the invest. concluded.) In 1973, Buffett began buying stock in the Washington Post. He became friends with Katherine Graham, the publisher/owner, became a director (with 10 % of the stock) on the board in the fall of 1974,(coming onto the social scene of Washington around this time) and stayed 11 years, greatly increasing profitability of the paper. In Nov 1976, Buffett(25%) and Soloman Brothers underwrote GEICO Insurance for 76 million, saving the company, and since the stock was really cheap, later making a huge profit. Buffett's wife Susie, left in late 1977 early 1978 (sorry the book was vague about the dates) and moved to San Francisco. Buffett was depressed about a year. Susie encouraged other women to visit Buffett, and within a year of her leaving, Astrid Menks and Warren began dating and she moved in with him. Buffett and his wife traveled together, and Susie was friendly with Astrid. Buffett recovered and was happy. No mention of divorce yet in the book, maybe they never divorced. I will write more later--Sheri Powers Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Sheri, Thank you. I look forward to your posts on this. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace Friday, August 04, 2006 6:49 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Vyas, Glad to help if I can. I am at work, so it will take a while. Also, the book doesn't always list exact dates. The date for the father's passing is as Arun said, 4/30/1964. I believe went by the 1966 date in the list provided in examining the father's death. Some significant dates I found so far- Father's bank closed and he last job and all savings- Aug 13, 1931 in Omaha, Nebraska. Family fortunes improved gradually and they moved into a bigger home when Warren was 6. Older sister born in 1928-no date. Younger sister is 3 years younger than Warren, no date. Married- 3rd Saturday in April, 1952- Omaha, Nebraska. Gained control of Berkshire/Hathaway at a board meeting-May 10, 1965, Bedford Massachusetts, becoming chairman of the executive comittee and installing Ken Chace as president. I'll have more later- Sheri Powers Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Sheri, Please if you have the time, from the book provide us with dates of: 1) Birth of his three children 2) Death of father and mother 3) Separation from wife 4) Scandals involving the SEC and other bodies into his activities 5) Anything else that is significant (broken limbs, accidents, etc) Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:33 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear List, Vyas got me interested in Warren Buffett, and I checked out the book " Buffet, The Making of an American Capitalist " by Roger Lowenstein, at the library. The book has a lot of good personal information, though no birth time. On Aug 13, 1931, Warren's father's bank where he worked closed, and he lost his job and all savings. Also, Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. (perhaps debillitated moon in 4th-Oprah Winfrey, according to internet sources, is Leo with moon in fourth and had problems with mother). On Aug 13, 1931, the most afflicted ascendants for father were Leo, Sagittarius, and Aquarius. On Warren's date of birth, the ascendants with the most strong benefics were -Leo-5, Libra-4, Sagittarius-5, Aquarius-4, Aries-4, and Gemini-5. (This is keeping the MEP away from nodes). Leo, however, had the most combinations for wealth (benefics in or aspecting 2, 5, 11, and 9. Warren and family suffered poverty in his early years due to the depression, and this provided strong motivation to Warren- by the age of 5 he was stating he would grow up and be very rich. With the Leo ascendant,(depending on degree) Warren was born in Ketu subperiod, followed by weak Venus subperiod. If he is Leo, since the chart is so strong, the early weak sub periods provided strong motivation rather than hampering him in life. I was randomly checking a 6:40 birthtime which gave around 22 degrees Leo, but will check out 's suggestion of around 13 degrees rising. I will finish reading the book and check out the events against the other likely ascendants-I was strongly favoring a Leo ascendant, and glad to hear that the Professor and Arun see the same thing. But I will check out the other ascendant to make sure I am objective. I also saw strong possibility with Sagittarius and Aquarius. I really enjoy the list discussion-Sincerely, Sheri Powers Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: Dear Vyas, The nature of the prime determinant of profession should also be looked at. In the case of Leo, Mercury is the trader of the zodiac. Coupled with strong 5th/11th houses, a career in speculative activities seems to be a stronger possibility. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Arun, As you've pointed out Saturnian influence can give this frugality. How about an Aq asc? Certainly it would show strong Sun/Leo traits with Su L7 Aq if the MEP is as suspected. It shows show fantastic affluence through investments as well. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:38 AM Re: Warren Buffett My dear Esteemed Professor and Vyas, Leo ascendant folk (myself included) have a unique look, especially when the Sun influences the ascendant or 2nd house (face) closely. One can expect a wider face with strong bone structure therein. The nose may be prominent and somewhat wide. Mr. Buffett also has a strong forehead, which is consistent with other Leo's. Hence my initial assessment was Leo. Being one, I know one when I see one Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello Vyas, Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. Best wishes, - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM Re: Warren Buffett > Dear Professor, > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the world > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > My dear Vyas, > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > Leo > Virgo > Libra > Pisces > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. > > What do you think? > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the > chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. > > If this helps the discussion... > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many > years > ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed > with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him > better, contact-wise. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > On Behalf > Of Arun Rao > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > Thank you for your efforts. > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general > overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, > it > becomes guesswork. > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously > we > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. > > But deeper examination is needed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK > " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: > Dear Vyas, > > Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous > message. > > Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in > a > successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no > trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list > members > have a better luck. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > HYPERLINK > " %40 " > [HYPERLINK > " %40 " ] On Behalf Of > Vyas Munidas > terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 > HYPERLINK " %40 " > Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > Dear Jorge, > > Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this > chart. > He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a > timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes > that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other > esteemed > members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. > > Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST > > 1944: (14 years old) > invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland > > 1945: (15 years old) > first job > > 1947: (17 years old) > freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. > > 1950: (20 years old) > Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at > Columbia. > > 1952: (22 years old) > Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female > > 1954: (24 years old) > New job with Graham > Second child, male > > 1956: (26 years old) > Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett > family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett > Associates, > Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a > total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of > the year, > > 1957: (27 years old) > Third child, Peter, > Purchased a five-bedroom house > > 1960: (30 years old) > Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who > will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, > 11 > doctors agreed to invest. > > 1961: (31 years old) > With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million > investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. > > 1965: (35 years old) > Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) > > 1968: (38 years old) > Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts > college in Iowa. > > 1969: (39 years old) > Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and > liquidated its assets to his partners. > > 1971: (41 years old) > At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna > Beach. > > 1974: (44 years old) > Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio > began > to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. > Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into > Warren > GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the > investigation. > > 1977: (47 years old) > Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. > Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing > paper. > Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This > caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. > > 1983: (53 years old) > Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the > first > time. > > 1988: (58 years old) > Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up > to > 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of > Berkshire's most lucrative investments. > > 1989: (59 years old) > Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth > rose > with it to $3.8 billion. > > 1997: (67 years old) > Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at > about $6 per ounce. > > 2002: (72 years old) > Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US > dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these > contracts was over $2 billion. > > 2003: (73 years old) > By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 > million dollars. > Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted > by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for > President in 2004.[14] > > 2004: (74 years old) > Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola > Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of > interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy > buyers > of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor > Pepsi? " > > 2005: (75 years old) > The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar > strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance > divisions. > > 2006: (76 years old) > > Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re > Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American > International Group. > Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has > ever made outside of the United States. > Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about > $37 > billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of > stock starting in July 2006. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK > " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> > <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> > Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the > > possibility > > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > [HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On > > Behalf > > Of Vyas Munidas > > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > > > > > Dearest Jorge (and list), > > > > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows > > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 > > > > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 Budapest, > > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 > > > > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please take > > a > > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: > 28.07.2006 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: > 31.07.2006 > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 Hello Arun, Interest in the business of Press is also seen with the strong third lord in Aquarius asdt. Strong views and their public demonstation can also be attributed to the strong third lord. The incidence of legal involvements of his business aspects and conflicts in relationships are also more attributable to the sixth lord in the tenth house. I add my replies/comments to your questions in your message appended below. Best wishes, - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Saturday, August 05, 2006 7:57 AM Re: Warren Buffett My dear Esteemed Professor, Thank you very much for laying out the reasons for Aquarius. I have a few questions still: When there is a close affliction to the 4th house MEP, should we favor the mother over the father as the affected party, or should both parents be included always? BOTH PARENTS ARE INCLUDED BUT IF NINTH HOUSE IS ALSO WEEK THEN MORE FOCUS IS ON TROUBLE TO FATHER. To what extent can the strength and influences of the Sun and Mars in the case of Leo making up for Venus' deficiency? TO SOME EXTENT. How big of a role does the Leo ascendant w/a strong L1 play itself in overcoming Venus' weakness? LITTLE. 1974 and 1977 were particularly troublesome years for him. In 1974 he faced antitrust charges brought upon by the Securities and Exchange Commission, but was exonerated. His personal wealth declined by more than 50% that year, while the sub-period of strong L8 was running. Perhaps the placement of both the main and sub-period lords in the 8th house led to these obstructions, but the strong L8 should, in theory, have given large financial gains as well. STRONG LORD OF EIGHTH GAVE EASY GAINS MANY TIMES BUT DURING THE SUB PERIODS OF MMP SOME REVERSAL ARE SEEN DUE TO OTHER TRANSIT INFLUENCES. In 1977, he separated from his spouse though they remained married. The sub-periods running during these years were Mercury and Ketu. The transit of the nodal axis over the weak/aff. natal Venus in 1977 along with the sub-period of Ketu in operation possibly led to the separation. Could you please shed any further light on these difficulties? 1976-1977 SATURN WAS IN CANCER WHICH IS SIXTH HOUSE OF AQUARIUS ASDT AND THIS CAN MAKE THE NATURE OF THE PERSON SUCH THAT RELATIONSHIP SUFFER IN ADDITON TO THE CONFLICTS/LITIGATIONS. Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello dear Arun, When riches were the only factor, I also thought that he might be Leo. The other factors brought into light now are significant to be looked into. (i) It is the death of the father which indicates that he is likely to be born in Aquarius. Leo ascendant gives a long lived father. On the date of the death of father with Aquarius ascendant transit both transit Jupiter and transit Saturn were exactly under the aspect of transit Ketu and transit Rahu, respectively. Transit sub period lord Mars was in utter infancy. Transit Venus L9 was in utter infancy. (ii) The close impact of the Sun to the ascendant, placement of strong Saturn in 11H with mutual aspect of strong Mars and the close impact of strong Jupiter lord of the house of gains to the ascendant all are the strong factors for status. (iii) In Leo ascendant with weak Venus it would have been difficult for him to be an adventurous and long time entrepreneure. (iv) Mercury does not closely aspect MEP of 2H. (v) The Moon also has about 20% influence on the tenth and fourth house MEPs as per the proposed degree. Best wishes, www.YourNetAstrologer.com www.JyotishRemedies121.com A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018. (India) Phones: 91 124 - 2219240 Mobile 98110 16333 - " Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace Saturday, August 05, 2006 4:19 AM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Vyas, Glad to help if I can. I am at work, so it will take a while. Also, the book doesn't always list exact dates. The date for the father's passing is as Arun said, 4/30/1964. I believe went by the 1966 date in the list provided in examining the father's death. Some significant dates I found so far- Father's bank closed and he last job and all savings- Aug 13, 1931 in Omaha, Nebraska. Family fortunes improved gradually and they moved into a bigger home when Warren was 6. Older sister born in 1928-no date. Younger sister is 3 years younger than Warren, no date. Married- 3rd Saturday in April, 1952- Omaha, Nebraska. Gained control of Berkshire/Hathaway at a board meeting-May 10, 1965, Bedford Massachusetts, becoming chairman of the executive comittee and installing Ken Chace as president. I'll have more later- Sheri Powers Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Sheri, Please if you have the time, from the book provide us with dates of: 1) Birth of his three children 2) Death of father and mother 3) Separation from wife 4) Scandals involving the SEC and other bodies into his activities 5) Anything else that is significant (broken limbs, accidents, etc) Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:33 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear List, Vyas got me interested in Warren Buffett, and I checked out the book " Buffet, The Making of an American Capitalist " by Roger Lowenstein, at the library. The book has a lot of good personal information, though no birth time. On Aug 13, 1931, Warren's father's bank where he worked closed, and he lost his job and all savings. Also, Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. (perhaps debillitated moon in 4th-Oprah Winfrey, according to internet sources, is Leo with moon in fourth and had problems with mother). On Aug 13, 1931, the most afflicted ascendants for father were Leo, Sagittarius, and Aquarius. On Warren's date of birth, the ascendants with the most strong benefics were -Leo-5, Libra-4, Sagittarius-5, Aquarius-4, Aries-4, and Gemini-5. (This is keeping the MEP away from nodes). Leo, however, had the most combinations for wealth (benefics in or aspecting 2, 5, 11, and 9. Warren and family suffered poverty in his early years due to the depression, and this provided strong motivation to Warren- by the age of 5 he was stating he would grow up and be very rich. With the Leo ascendant,(depending on degree) Warren was born in Ketu subperiod, followed by weak Venus subperiod. If he is Leo, since the chart is so strong, the early weak sub periods provided strong motivation rather than hampering him in life. I was randomly checking a 6:40 birthtime which gave around 22 degrees Leo, but will check out 's suggestion of around 13 degrees rising. I will finish reading the book and check out the events against the other likely ascendants-I was strongly favoring a Leo ascendant, and glad to hear that the Professor and Arun see the same thing. But I will check out the other ascendant to make sure I am objective. I also saw strong possibility with Sagittarius and Aquarius. I really enjoy the list discussion-Sincerely, Sheri Powers Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: Dear Vyas, The nature of the prime determinant of profession should also be looked at. In the case of Leo, Mercury is the trader of the zodiac. Coupled with strong 5th/11th houses, a career in speculative activities seems to be a stronger possibility. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Arun, As you've pointed out Saturnian influence can give this frugality. How about an Aq asc? Certainly it would show strong Sun/Leo traits with Su L7 Aq if the MEP is as suspected. It shows show fantastic affluence through investments as well. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:38 AM Re: Warren Buffett My dear Esteemed Professor and Vyas, Leo ascendant folk (myself included) have a unique look, especially when the Sun influences the ascendant or 2nd house (face) closely. One can expect a wider face with strong bone structure therein. The nose may be prominent and somewhat wide. Mr. Buffett also has a strong forehead, which is consistent with other Leo's. Hence my initial assessment was Leo. Being one, I know one when I see one Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello Vyas, Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. Best wishes, - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM Re: Warren Buffett > Dear Professor, > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the world > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > My dear Vyas, > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > Leo > Virgo > Libra > Pisces > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. > > What do you think? > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the > chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. > > If this helps the discussion... > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many > years > ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed > with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him > better, contact-wise. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > On Behalf > Of Arun Rao > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > Thank you for your efforts. > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general > overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, > it > becomes guesswork. > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously > we > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. > > But deeper examination is needed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK > " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: > Dear Vyas, > > Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous > message. > > Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in > a > successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no > trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list > members > have a better luck. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > HYPERLINK > " %40 " > [HYPERLINK > " %40 " ] On Behalf Of > Vyas Munidas > terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 > HYPERLINK " %40 " > Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > Dear Jorge, > > Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this > chart. > He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a > timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes > that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other > esteemed > members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. > > Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST > > 1944: (14 years old) > invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland > > 1945: (15 years old) > first job > > 1947: (17 years old) > freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. > > 1950: (20 years old) > Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at > Columbia. > > 1952: (22 years old) > Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female > > 1954: (24 years old) > New job with Graham > Second child, male > > 1956: (26 years old) > Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett > family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett > Associates, > Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a > total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of > the year, > > 1957: (27 years old) > Third child, Peter, > Purchased a five-bedroom house > > 1960: (30 years old) > Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who > will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, > 11 > doctors agreed to invest. > > 1961: (31 years old) > With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million > investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. > > 1965: (35 years old) > Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) > > 1968: (38 years old) > Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts > college in Iowa. > > 1969: (39 years old) > Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and > liquidated its assets to his partners. > > 1971: (41 years old) > At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna > Beach. > > 1974: (44 years old) > Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio > began > to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. > Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into > Warren > GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the > investigation. > > 1977: (47 years old) > Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. > Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing > paper. > Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This > caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. > > 1983: (53 years old) > Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the > first > time. > > 1988: (58 years old) > Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up > to > 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of > Berkshire's most lucrative investments. > > 1989: (59 years old) > Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth > rose > with it to $3.8 billion. > > 1997: (67 years old) > Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at > about $6 per ounce. > > 2002: (72 years old) > Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US > dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these > contracts was over $2 billion. > > 2003: (73 years old) > By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 > million dollars. > Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted > by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for > President in 2004.[14] > > 2004: (74 years old) > Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola > Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of > interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy > buyers > of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor > Pepsi? " > > 2005: (75 years old) > The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar > strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance > divisions. > > 2006: (76 years old) > > Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re > Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American > International Group. > Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has > ever made outside of the United States. > Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about > $37 > billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of > stock starting in July 2006. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK > " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> > <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> > Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the > > possibility > > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 Hello Arun, Strong L9 support other planets to some extent. Best wishes, - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Saturday, August 05, 2006 8:15 AM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Esteemed Professor, In the case of Leo or Aquarius Asc., when the Moon is weak or badly placed or afflicted, can the strength of L9 compensate for its weakness and, if so, to what degree? Many thanks. Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello dear Arun, When riches were the only factor, I also thought that he might be Leo. The other factors brought into light now are significant to be looked into. (i) It is the death of the father which indicates that he is likely to be born in Aquarius. Leo ascendant gives a long lived father. On the date of the death of father with Aquarius ascendant transit both transit Jupiter and transit Saturn were exactly under the aspect of transit Ketu and transit Rahu, respectively. Transit sub period lord Mars was in utter infancy. Transit Venus L9 was in utter infancy. (ii) The close impact of the Sun to the ascendant, placement of strong Saturn in 11H with mutual aspect of strong Mars and the close impact of strong Jupiter lord of the house of gains to the ascendant all are the strong factors for status. (iii) In Leo ascendant with weak Venus it would have been difficult for him to be an adventurous and long time entrepreneure. (iv) Mercury does not closely aspect MEP of 2H. (v) The Moon also has about 20% influence on the tenth and fourth house MEPs as per the proposed degree. Best wishes, www.YourNetAstrologer.com www.JyotishRemedies121.com A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018. (India) Phones: 91 124 - 2219240 Mobile 98110 16333 - " Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace Saturday, August 05, 2006 4:19 AM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Vyas, Glad to help if I can. I am at work, so it will take a while. Also, the book doesn't always list exact dates. The date for the father's passing is as Arun said, 4/30/1964. I believe went by the 1966 date in the list provided in examining the father's death. Some significant dates I found so far- Father's bank closed and he last job and all savings- Aug 13, 1931 in Omaha, Nebraska. Family fortunes improved gradually and they moved into a bigger home when Warren was 6. Older sister born in 1928-no date. Younger sister is 3 years younger than Warren, no date. Married- 3rd Saturday in April, 1952- Omaha, Nebraska. Gained control of Berkshire/Hathaway at a board meeting-May 10, 1965, Bedford Massachusetts, becoming chairman of the executive comittee and installing Ken Chace as president. I'll have more later- Sheri Powers Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Sheri, Please if you have the time, from the book provide us with dates of: 1) Birth of his three children 2) Death of father and mother 3) Separation from wife 4) Scandals involving the SEC and other bodies into his activities 5) Anything else that is significant (broken limbs, accidents, etc) Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:33 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear List, Vyas got me interested in Warren Buffett, and I checked out the book " Buffet, The Making of an American Capitalist " by Roger Lowenstein, at the library. The book has a lot of good personal information, though no birth time. On Aug 13, 1931, Warren's father's bank where he worked closed, and he lost his job and all savings. Also, Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. (perhaps debillitated moon in 4th-Oprah Winfrey, according to internet sources, is Leo with moon in fourth and had problems with mother). On Aug 13, 1931, the most afflicted ascendants for father were Leo, Sagittarius, and Aquarius. On Warren's date of birth, the ascendants with the most strong benefics were -Leo-5, Libra-4, Sagittarius-5, Aquarius-4, Aries-4, and Gemini-5. (This is keeping the MEP away from nodes). Leo, however, had the most combinations for wealth (benefics in or aspecting 2, 5, 11, and 9. Warren and family suffered poverty in his early years due to the depression, and this provided strong motivation to Warren- by the age of 5 he was stating he would grow up and be very rich. With the Leo ascendant,(depending on degree) Warren was born in Ketu subperiod, followed by weak Venus subperiod. If he is Leo, since the chart is so strong, the early weak sub periods provided strong motivation rather than hampering him in life. I was randomly checking a 6:40 birthtime which gave around 22 degrees Leo, but will check out 's suggestion of around 13 degrees rising. I will finish reading the book and check out the events against the other likely ascendants-I was strongly favoring a Leo ascendant, and glad to hear that the Professor and Arun see the same thing. But I will check out the other ascendant to make sure I am objective. I also saw strong possibility with Sagittarius and Aquarius. I really enjoy the list discussion-Sincerely, Sheri Powers Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: Dear Vyas, The nature of the prime determinant of profession should also be looked at. In the case of Leo, Mercury is the trader of the zodiac. Coupled with strong 5th/11th houses, a career in speculative activities seems to be a stronger possibility. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Arun, As you've pointed out Saturnian influence can give this frugality. How about an Aq asc? Certainly it would show strong Sun/Leo traits with Su L7 Aq if the MEP is as suspected. It shows show fantastic affluence through investments as well. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:38 AM Re: Warren Buffett My dear Esteemed Professor and Vyas, Leo ascendant folk (myself included) have a unique look, especially when the Sun influences the ascendant or 2nd house (face) closely. One can expect a wider face with strong bone structure therein. The nose may be prominent and somewhat wide. Mr. Buffett also has a strong forehead, which is consistent with other Leo's. Hence my initial assessment was Leo. Being one, I know one when I see one Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello Vyas, Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. Best wishes, - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM Re: Warren Buffett > Dear Professor, > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the world > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > My dear Vyas, > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > Leo > Virgo > Libra > Pisces > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. > > What do you think? > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the > chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. > > If this helps the discussion... > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many > years > ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed > with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him > better, contact-wise. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > On Behalf > Of Arun Rao > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > Thank you for your efforts. > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general > overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, > it > becomes guesswork. > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously > we > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. > > But deeper examination is needed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK > " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: > Dear Vyas, > > Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous > message. > > Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in > a > successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no > trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list > members > have a better luck. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > HYPERLINK > " %40 " > [HYPERLINK > " %40 " ] On Behalf Of > Vyas Munidas > terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 > HYPERLINK " %40 " > Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > Dear Jorge, > > Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this > chart. > He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a > timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes > that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other > esteemed > members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. > > Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST > > 1944: (14 years old) > invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland > > 1945: (15 years old) > first job > > 1947: (17 years old) > freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. > > 1950: (20 years old) > Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at > Columbia. > > 1952: (22 years old) > Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female > > 1954: (24 years old) > New job with Graham > Second child, male > > 1956: (26 years old) > Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett > family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett > Associates, > Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a > total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of > the year, > > 1957: (27 years old) > Third child, Peter, > Purchased a five-bedroom house > > 1960: (30 years old) > Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who > will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, > 11 > doctors agreed to invest. > > 1961: (31 years old) > With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million > investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. > > 1965: (35 years old) > Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) > > 1968: (38 years old) > Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts > college in Iowa. > > 1969: (39 years old) > Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and > liquidated its assets to his partners. > > 1971: (41 years old) > At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna > Beach. > > 1974: (44 years old) > Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio > began > to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. > Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into > Warren > GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the > investigation. > > 1977: (47 years old) > Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. > Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing > paper. > Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This > caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. > > 1983: (53 years old) > Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the > first > time. > > 1988: (58 years old) > Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up > to > 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of > Berkshire's most lucrative investments. > > 1989: (59 years old) > Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth > rose > with it to $3.8 billion. > > 1997: (67 years old) > Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at > about $6 per ounce. > > 2002: (72 years old) > Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US > dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these > contracts was over $2 billion. > > 2003: (73 years old) > By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 > million dollars. > Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted > by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for > President in 2004.[14] > > 2004: (74 years old) > Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola > Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of > interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy > buyers > of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor > Pepsi? " > > 2005: (75 years old) > The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar > strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance > divisions. > > 2006: (76 years old) > > Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re > Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American > International Group. > Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has > ever made outside of the United States. > Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about > $37 > billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of > stock starting in July 2006. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK > " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> > <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> > Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the > > possibility > > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 Hello Arun, L9 has power to support other planets to some extent. Best wishes, - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Saturday, August 05, 2006 8:23 AM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Esteemed Professor, With my question below, I am referring to the signification of the mother and parents in general only in reference to the role of L9 when the Moon is weak. Many thanks. Best Wishes, Arun Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: Dear Esteemed Professor, In the case of Leo or Aquarius Asc., when the Moon is weak or badly placed or afflicted, can the strength of L9 compensate for its weakness and, if so, to what degree? Many thanks. Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello dear Arun, When riches were the only factor, I also thought that he might be Leo. The other factors brought into light now are significant to be looked into. (i) It is the death of the father which indicates that he is likely to be born in Aquarius. Leo ascendant gives a long lived father. On the date of the death of father with Aquarius ascendant transit both transit Jupiter and transit Saturn were exactly under the aspect of transit Ketu and transit Rahu, respectively. Transit sub period lord Mars was in utter infancy. Transit Venus L9 was in utter infancy. (ii) The close impact of the Sun to the ascendant, placement of strong Saturn in 11H with mutual aspect of strong Mars and the close impact of strong Jupiter lord of the house of gains to the ascendant all are the strong factors for status. (iii) In Leo ascendant with weak Venus it would have been difficult for him to be an adventurous and long time entrepreneure. (iv) Mercury does not closely aspect MEP of 2H. (v) The Moon also has about 20% influence on the tenth and fourth house MEPs as per the proposed degree. Best wishes, www.YourNetAstrologer.com www.JyotishRemedies121.com A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018. (India) Phones: 91 124 - 2219240 Mobile 98110 16333 - " Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace Saturday, August 05, 2006 4:19 AM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Vyas, Glad to help if I can. I am at work, so it will take a while. Also, the book doesn't always list exact dates. The date for the father's passing is as Arun said, 4/30/1964. I believe went by the 1966 date in the list provided in examining the father's death. Some significant dates I found so far- Father's bank closed and he last job and all savings- Aug 13, 1931 in Omaha, Nebraska. Family fortunes improved gradually and they moved into a bigger home when Warren was 6. Older sister born in 1928-no date. Younger sister is 3 years younger than Warren, no date. Married- 3rd Saturday in April, 1952- Omaha, Nebraska. Gained control of Berkshire/Hathaway at a board meeting-May 10, 1965, Bedford Massachusetts, becoming chairman of the executive comittee and installing Ken Chace as president. I'll have more later- Sheri Powers Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Sheri, Please if you have the time, from the book provide us with dates of: 1) Birth of his three children 2) Death of father and mother 3) Separation from wife 4) Scandals involving the SEC and other bodies into his activities 5) Anything else that is significant (broken limbs, accidents, etc) Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:33 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear List, Vyas got me interested in Warren Buffett, and I checked out the book " Buffet, The Making of an American Capitalist " by Roger Lowenstein, at the library. The book has a lot of good personal information, though no birth time. On Aug 13, 1931, Warren's father's bank where he worked closed, and he lost his job and all savings. Also, Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. (perhaps debillitated moon in 4th-Oprah Winfrey, according to internet sources, is Leo with moon in fourth and had problems with mother). On Aug 13, 1931, the most afflicted ascendants for father were Leo, Sagittarius, and Aquarius. On Warren's date of birth, the ascendants with the most strong benefics were -Leo-5, Libra-4, Sagittarius-5, Aquarius-4, Aries-4, and Gemini-5. (This is keeping the MEP away from nodes). Leo, however, had the most combinations for wealth (benefics in or aspecting 2, 5, 11, and 9. Warren and family suffered poverty in his early years due to the depression, and this provided strong motivation to Warren- by the age of 5 he was stating he would grow up and be very rich. With the Leo ascendant,(depending on degree) Warren was born in Ketu subperiod, followed by weak Venus subperiod. If he is Leo, since the chart is so strong, the early weak sub periods provided strong motivation rather than hampering him in life. I was randomly checking a 6:40 birthtime which gave around 22 degrees Leo, but will check out 's suggestion of around 13 degrees rising. I will finish reading the book and check out the events against the other likely ascendants-I was strongly favoring a Leo ascendant, and glad to hear that the Professor and Arun see the same thing. But I will check out the other ascendant to make sure I am objective. I also saw strong possibility with Sagittarius and Aquarius. I really enjoy the list discussion-Sincerely, Sheri Powers Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: Dear Vyas, The nature of the prime determinant of profession should also be looked at. In the case of Leo, Mercury is the trader of the zodiac. Coupled with strong 5th/11th houses, a career in speculative activities seems to be a stronger possibility. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Arun, As you've pointed out Saturnian influence can give this frugality. How about an Aq asc? Certainly it would show strong Sun/Leo traits with Su L7 Aq if the MEP is as suspected. It shows show fantastic affluence through investments as well. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:38 AM Re: Warren Buffett My dear Esteemed Professor and Vyas, Leo ascendant folk (myself included) have a unique look, especially when the Sun influences the ascendant or 2nd house (face) closely. One can expect a wider face with strong bone structure therein. The nose may be prominent and somewhat wide. Mr. Buffett also has a strong forehead, which is consistent with other Leo's. Hence my initial assessment was Leo. Being one, I know one when I see one Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello Vyas, Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. Best wishes, - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM Re: Warren Buffett > Dear Professor, > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the world > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > My dear Vyas, > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > Leo > Virgo > Libra > Pisces > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. > > What do you think? > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the > chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. > > If this helps the discussion... > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many > years > ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed > with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him > better, contact-wise. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > On Behalf > Of Arun Rao > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > Thank you for your efforts. > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general > overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, > it > becomes guesswork. > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously > we > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. > > But deeper examination is needed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK > " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: > Dear Vyas, > > Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous > message. > > Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in > a > successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no > trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list > members > have a better luck. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > HYPERLINK > " %40 " > [HYPERLINK > " %40 " ] On Behalf Of > Vyas Munidas > terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 > HYPERLINK " %40 " > Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > Dear Jorge, > > Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this > chart. > He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a > timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes > that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other > esteemed > members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. > > Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST > > 1944: (14 years old) > invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland > > 1945: (15 years old) > first job > > 1947: (17 years old) > freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. > > 1950: (20 years old) > Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at > Columbia. > > 1952: (22 years old) > Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female > > 1954: (24 years old) > New job with Graham > Second child, male > > 1956: (26 years old) > Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett > family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett > Associates, > Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a > total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of > the year, > > 1957: (27 years old) > Third child, Peter, > Purchased a five-bedroom house > > 1960: (30 years old) > Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who > will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, > 11 > doctors agreed to invest. > > 1961: (31 years old) > With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million > investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. > > 1965: (35 years old) > Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) > > 1968: (38 years old) > Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts > college in Iowa. > > 1969: (39 years old) > Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and > liquidated its assets to his partners. > > 1971: (41 years old) > At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna > Beach. > > 1974: (44 years old) > Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio > began > to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. > Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into > Warren > GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the > investigation. > > 1977: (47 years old) > Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. > Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing > paper. > Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This > caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. > > 1983: (53 years old) > Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the > first > time. > > 1988: (58 years old) > Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up > to > 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of > Berkshire's most lucrative investments. > > 1989: (59 years old) > Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth > rose > with it to $3.8 billion. > > 1997: (67 years old) > Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at > about $6 per ounce. > > 2002: (72 years old) > Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US > dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these > contracts was over $2 billion. > > 2003: (73 years old) > By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 > million dollars. > Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted > by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for > President in 2004.[14] > > 2004: (74 years old) > Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola > Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of > interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy > buyers > of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor > Pepsi? " > > 2005: (75 years old) > The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar > strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance > divisions. > > 2006: (76 years old) > > Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re > Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American > International Group. > Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has > ever made outside of the United States. > Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about > $37 > billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of > stock starting in July 2006. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK > " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> > <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> > Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the > > possibility > > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > [HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On > > Behalf > > Of Vyas Munidas > > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > > > > > Dearest Jorge (and list), > > > > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows > > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 > > > > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 Budapest, > > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 > > > > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please take > > a > > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: > 28.07.2006 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: > 31.07.2006 > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 Dear Esteemed Professor, Many thanks for the explanation. The strength of the 3rd lord is something that's unique to the Aquarius chart indeed. It's amazing how overlooked the 3rd lord/3rd house have been throughout the course of VA studies. It is a huge factor in determining one's level of success in life that had not been brought to light until recently. Almost all great figures and personalities have strength in the 3rd house/3rd lord, including yourself. Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello Arun, Interest in the business of Press is also seen with the strong third lord in Aquarius asdt. Strong views and their public demonstation can also be attributed to the strong third lord. The incidence of legal involvements of his business aspects and conflicts in relationships are also more attributable to the sixth lord in the tenth house. I add my replies/comments to your questions in your message appended below. Best wishes, - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Saturday, August 05, 2006 7:57 AM Re: Warren Buffett My dear Esteemed Professor, Thank you very much for laying out the reasons for Aquarius. I have a few questions still: When there is a close affliction to the 4th house MEP, should we favor the mother over the father as the affected party, or should both parents be included always? BOTH PARENTS ARE INCLUDED BUT IF NINTH HOUSE IS ALSO WEEK THEN MORE FOCUS IS ON TROUBLE TO FATHER. To what extent can the strength and influences of the Sun and Mars in the case of Leo making up for Venus' deficiency? TO SOME EXTENT. How big of a role does the Leo ascendant w/a strong L1 play itself in overcoming Venus' weakness? LITTLE. 1974 and 1977 were particularly troublesome years for him. In 1974 he faced antitrust charges brought upon by the Securities and Exchange Commission, but was exonerated. His personal wealth declined by more than 50% that year, while the sub-period of strong L8 was running. Perhaps the placement of both the main and sub-period lords in the 8th house led to these obstructions, but the strong L8 should, in theory, have given large financial gains as well. STRONG LORD OF EIGHTH GAVE EASY GAINS MANY TIMES BUT DURING THE SUB PERIODS OF MMP SOME REVERSAL ARE SEEN DUE TO OTHER TRANSIT INFLUENCES. In 1977, he separated from his spouse though they remained married. The sub-periods running during these years were Mercury and Ketu. The transit of the nodal axis over the weak/aff. natal Venus in 1977 along with the sub-period of Ketu in operation possibly led to the separation. Could you please shed any further light on these difficulties? 1976-1977 SATURN WAS IN CANCER WHICH IS SIXTH HOUSE OF AQUARIUS ASDT AND THIS CAN MAKE THE NATURE OF THE PERSON SUCH THAT RELATIONSHIP SUFFER IN ADDITON TO THE CONFLICTS/LITIGATIONS. Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello dear Arun, When riches were the only factor, I also thought that he might be Leo. The other factors brought into light now are significant to be looked into. (i) It is the death of the father which indicates that he is likely to be born in Aquarius. Leo ascendant gives a long lived father. On the date of the death of father with Aquarius ascendant transit both transit Jupiter and transit Saturn were exactly under the aspect of transit Ketu and transit Rahu, respectively. Transit sub period lord Mars was in utter infancy. Transit Venus L9 was in utter infancy. (ii) The close impact of the Sun to the ascendant, placement of strong Saturn in 11H with mutual aspect of strong Mars and the close impact of strong Jupiter lord of the house of gains to the ascendant all are the strong factors for status. (iii) In Leo ascendant with weak Venus it would have been difficult for him to be an adventurous and long time entrepreneure. (iv) Mercury does not closely aspect MEP of 2H. (v) The Moon also has about 20% influence on the tenth and fourth house MEPs as per the proposed degree. Best wishes, www.YourNetAstrologer.com www.JyotishRemedies121.com A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018. (India) Phones: 91 124 - 2219240 Mobile 98110 16333 - " Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace Saturday, August 05, 2006 4:19 AM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Vyas, Glad to help if I can. I am at work, so it will take a while. Also, the book doesn't always list exact dates. The date for the father's passing is as Arun said, 4/30/1964. I believe went by the 1966 date in the list provided in examining the father's death. Some significant dates I found so far- Father's bank closed and he last job and all savings- Aug 13, 1931 in Omaha, Nebraska. Family fortunes improved gradually and they moved into a bigger home when Warren was 6. Older sister born in 1928-no date. Younger sister is 3 years younger than Warren, no date. Married- 3rd Saturday in April, 1952- Omaha, Nebraska. Gained control of Berkshire/Hathaway at a board meeting-May 10, 1965, Bedford Massachusetts, becoming chairman of the executive comittee and installing Ken Chace as president. I'll have more later- Sheri Powers Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Sheri, Please if you have the time, from the book provide us with dates of: 1) Birth of his three children 2) Death of father and mother 3) Separation from wife 4) Scandals involving the SEC and other bodies into his activities 5) Anything else that is significant (broken limbs, accidents, etc) Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:33 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear List, Vyas got me interested in Warren Buffett, and I checked out the book " Buffet, The Making of an American Capitalist " by Roger Lowenstein, at the library. The book has a lot of good personal information, though no birth time. On Aug 13, 1931, Warren's father's bank where he worked closed, and he lost his job and all savings. Also, Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. (perhaps debillitated moon in 4th-Oprah Winfrey, according to internet sources, is Leo with moon in fourth and had problems with mother). On Aug 13, 1931, the most afflicted ascendants for father were Leo, Sagittarius, and Aquarius. On Warren's date of birth, the ascendants with the most strong benefics were -Leo-5, Libra-4, Sagittarius-5, Aquarius-4, Aries-4, and Gemini-5. (This is keeping the MEP away from nodes). Leo, however, had the most combinations for wealth (benefics in or aspecting 2, 5, 11, and 9. Warren and family suffered poverty in his early years due to the depression, and this provided strong motivation to Warren- by the age of 5 he was stating he would grow up and be very rich. With the Leo ascendant,(depending on degree) Warren was born in Ketu subperiod, followed by weak Venus subperiod. If he is Leo, since the chart is so strong, the early weak sub periods provided strong motivation rather than hampering him in life. I was randomly checking a 6:40 birthtime which gave around 22 degrees Leo, but will check out 's suggestion of around 13 degrees rising. I will finish reading the book and check out the events against the other likely ascendants-I was strongly favoring a Leo ascendant, and glad to hear that the Professor and Arun see the same thing. But I will check out the other ascendant to make sure I am objective. I also saw strong possibility with Sagittarius and Aquarius. I really enjoy the list discussion-Sincerely, Sheri Powers Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: Dear Vyas, The nature of the prime determinant of profession should also be looked at. In the case of Leo, Mercury is the trader of the zodiac. Coupled with strong 5th/11th houses, a career in speculative activities seems to be a stronger possibility. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Arun, As you've pointed out Saturnian influence can give this frugality. How about an Aq asc? Certainly it would show strong Sun/Leo traits with Su L7 Aq if the MEP is as suspected. It shows show fantastic affluence through investments as well. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:38 AM Re: Warren Buffett My dear Esteemed Professor and Vyas, Leo ascendant folk (myself included) have a unique look, especially when the Sun influences the ascendant or 2nd house (face) closely. One can expect a wider face with strong bone structure therein. The nose may be prominent and somewhat wide. Mr. Buffett also has a strong forehead, which is consistent with other Leo's. Hence my initial assessment was Leo. Being one, I know one when I see one Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello Vyas, Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. Best wishes, - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM Re: Warren Buffett > Dear Professor, > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the world > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > My dear Vyas, > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > Leo > Virgo > Libra > Pisces > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. > > What do you think? > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the > chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. > > If this helps the discussion... > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many > years > ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed > with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him > better, contact-wise. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > On Behalf > Of Arun Rao > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > Thank you for your efforts. > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general > overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, > it > becomes guesswork. > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously > we > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. > > But deeper examination is needed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK > " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: > Dear Vyas, > > Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous > message. > > Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in > a > successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no > trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list > members > have a better luck. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > HYPERLINK > " %40 " > [HYPERLINK > " %40 " ] On Behalf Of > Vyas Munidas > terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 > HYPERLINK " %40 " > Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > Dear Jorge, > > Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this > chart. > He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a > timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes > that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other > esteemed > members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. > > Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST > > 1944: (14 years old) > invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland > > 1945: (15 years old) > first job > > 1947: (17 years old) > freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. > > 1950: (20 years old) > Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at > Columbia. > > 1952: (22 years old) > Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female > > 1954: (24 years old) > New job with Graham > Second child, male > > 1956: (26 years old) > Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett > family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett > Associates, > Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a > total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of > the year, > > 1957: (27 years old) > Third child, Peter, > Purchased a five-bedroom house > > 1960: (30 years old) > Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who > will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, > 11 > doctors agreed to invest. > > 1961: (31 years old) > With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million > investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. > > 1965: (35 years old) > Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) > > 1968: (38 years old) > Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts > college in Iowa. > > 1969: (39 years old) > Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and > liquidated its assets to his partners. > > 1971: (41 years old) > At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna > Beach. > > 1974: (44 years old) > Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio > began > to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. > Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into > Warren > GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the > investigation. > > 1977: (47 years old) > Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. > Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing > paper. > Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This > caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. > > 1983: (53 years old) > Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the > first > time. > > 1988: (58 years old) > Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up > to > 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of > Berkshire's most lucrative investments. > > 1989: (59 years old) > Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth > rose > with it to $3.8 billion. > > 1997: (67 years old) > Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at > about $6 per ounce. > > 2002: (72 years old) > Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US > dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these > contracts was over $2 billion. > > 2003: (73 years old) > By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 > million dollars. > Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted > by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for > President in 2004.[14] > > 2004: (74 years old) > Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola > Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of > interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy > buyers > of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor > Pepsi? " > > 2005: (75 years old) > The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar > strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance > divisions. > > 2006: (76 years old) > > Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re > Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American > International Group. > Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has > ever made outside of the United States. > Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about > $37 > billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of > stock starting in July 2006. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK > " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> > <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> > Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the > > possibility > > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 Dear Esteemed Professor, Thank you very much. Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello Arun, L9 has power to support other planets to some extent. Best wishes, - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Saturday, August 05, 2006 8:23 AM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Esteemed Professor, With my question below, I am referring to the signification of the mother and parents in general only in reference to the role of L9 when the Moon is weak. Many thanks. Best Wishes, Arun Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: Dear Esteemed Professor, In the case of Leo or Aquarius Asc., when the Moon is weak or badly placed or afflicted, can the strength of L9 compensate for its weakness and, if so, to what degree? Many thanks. Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello dear Arun, When riches were the only factor, I also thought that he might be Leo. The other factors brought into light now are significant to be looked into. (i) It is the death of the father which indicates that he is likely to be born in Aquarius. Leo ascendant gives a long lived father. On the date of the death of father with Aquarius ascendant transit both transit Jupiter and transit Saturn were exactly under the aspect of transit Ketu and transit Rahu, respectively. Transit sub period lord Mars was in utter infancy. Transit Venus L9 was in utter infancy. (ii) The close impact of the Sun to the ascendant, placement of strong Saturn in 11H with mutual aspect of strong Mars and the close impact of strong Jupiter lord of the house of gains to the ascendant all are the strong factors for status. (iii) In Leo ascendant with weak Venus it would have been difficult for him to be an adventurous and long time entrepreneure. (iv) Mercury does not closely aspect MEP of 2H. (v) The Moon also has about 20% influence on the tenth and fourth house MEPs as per the proposed degree. Best wishes, www.YourNetAstrologer.com www.JyotishRemedies121.com A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018. (India) Phones: 91 124 - 2219240 Mobile 98110 16333 - " Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace Saturday, August 05, 2006 4:19 AM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Vyas, Glad to help if I can. I am at work, so it will take a while. Also, the book doesn't always list exact dates. The date for the father's passing is as Arun said, 4/30/1964. I believe went by the 1966 date in the list provided in examining the father's death. Some significant dates I found so far- Father's bank closed and he last job and all savings- Aug 13, 1931 in Omaha, Nebraska. Family fortunes improved gradually and they moved into a bigger home when Warren was 6. Older sister born in 1928-no date. Younger sister is 3 years younger than Warren, no date. Married- 3rd Saturday in April, 1952- Omaha, Nebraska. Gained control of Berkshire/Hathaway at a board meeting-May 10, 1965, Bedford Massachusetts, becoming chairman of the executive comittee and installing Ken Chace as president. I'll have more later- Sheri Powers Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Sheri, Please if you have the time, from the book provide us with dates of: 1) Birth of his three children 2) Death of father and mother 3) Separation from wife 4) Scandals involving the SEC and other bodies into his activities 5) Anything else that is significant (broken limbs, accidents, etc) Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:33 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear List, Vyas got me interested in Warren Buffett, and I checked out the book " Buffet, The Making of an American Capitalist " by Roger Lowenstein, at the library. The book has a lot of good personal information, though no birth time. On Aug 13, 1931, Warren's father's bank where he worked closed, and he lost his job and all savings. Also, Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. (perhaps debillitated moon in 4th-Oprah Winfrey, according to internet sources, is Leo with moon in fourth and had problems with mother). On Aug 13, 1931, the most afflicted ascendants for father were Leo, Sagittarius, and Aquarius. On Warren's date of birth, the ascendants with the most strong benefics were -Leo-5, Libra-4, Sagittarius-5, Aquarius-4, Aries-4, and Gemini-5. (This is keeping the MEP away from nodes). Leo, however, had the most combinations for wealth (benefics in or aspecting 2, 5, 11, and 9. Warren and family suffered poverty in his early years due to the depression, and this provided strong motivation to Warren- by the age of 5 he was stating he would grow up and be very rich. With the Leo ascendant,(depending on degree) Warren was born in Ketu subperiod, followed by weak Venus subperiod. If he is Leo, since the chart is so strong, the early weak sub periods provided strong motivation rather than hampering him in life. I was randomly checking a 6:40 birthtime which gave around 22 degrees Leo, but will check out 's suggestion of around 13 degrees rising. I will finish reading the book and check out the events against the other likely ascendants-I was strongly favoring a Leo ascendant, and glad to hear that the Professor and Arun see the same thing. But I will check out the other ascendant to make sure I am objective. I also saw strong possibility with Sagittarius and Aquarius. I really enjoy the list discussion-Sincerely, Sheri Powers Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: Dear Vyas, The nature of the prime determinant of profession should also be looked at. In the case of Leo, Mercury is the trader of the zodiac. Coupled with strong 5th/11th houses, a career in speculative activities seems to be a stronger possibility. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Arun, As you've pointed out Saturnian influence can give this frugality. How about an Aq asc? Certainly it would show strong Sun/Leo traits with Su L7 Aq if the MEP is as suspected. It shows show fantastic affluence through investments as well. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:38 AM Re: Warren Buffett My dear Esteemed Professor and Vyas, Leo ascendant folk (myself included) have a unique look, especially when the Sun influences the ascendant or 2nd house (face) closely. One can expect a wider face with strong bone structure therein. The nose may be prominent and somewhat wide. Mr. Buffett also has a strong forehead, which is consistent with other Leo's. Hence my initial assessment was Leo. Being one, I know one when I see one Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello Vyas, Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. Best wishes, - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM Re: Warren Buffett > Dear Professor, > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the world > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > My dear Vyas, > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > Leo > Virgo > Libra > Pisces > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. > > What do you think? > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the > chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. > > If this helps the discussion... > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many > years > ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed > with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him > better, contact-wise. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > On Behalf > Of Arun Rao > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > Thank you for your efforts. > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general > overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, > it > becomes guesswork. > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously > we > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. > > But deeper examination is needed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK > " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: > Dear Vyas, > > Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous > message. > > Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in > a > successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no > trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list > members > have a better luck. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > HYPERLINK > " %40 " > [HYPERLINK > " %40 " ] On Behalf Of > Vyas Munidas > terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 > HYPERLINK " %40 " > Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > Dear Jorge, > > Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this > chart. > He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a > timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes > that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other > esteemed > members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. > > Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST > > 1944: (14 years old) > invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland > > 1945: (15 years old) > first job > > 1947: (17 years old) > freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. > > 1950: (20 years old) > Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at > Columbia. > > 1952: (22 years old) > Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female > > 1954: (24 years old) > New job with Graham > Second child, male > > 1956: (26 years old) > Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett > family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett > Associates, > Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a > total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of > the year, > > 1957: (27 years old) > Third child, Peter, > Purchased a five-bedroom house > > 1960: (30 years old) > Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who > will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, > 11 > doctors agreed to invest. > > 1961: (31 years old) > With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million > investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. > > 1965: (35 years old) > Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) > > 1968: (38 years old) > Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts > college in Iowa. > > 1969: (39 years old) > Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and > liquidated its assets to his partners. > > 1971: (41 years old) > At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna > Beach. > > 1974: (44 years old) > Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio > began > to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. > Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into > Warren > GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the > investigation. > > 1977: (47 years old) > Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. > Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing > paper. > Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This > caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. > > 1983: (53 years old) > Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the > first > time. > > 1988: (58 years old) > Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up > to > 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of > Berkshire's most lucrative investments. > > 1989: (59 years old) > Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth > rose > with it to $3.8 billion. > > 1997: (67 years old) > Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at > about $6 per ounce. > > 2002: (72 years old) > Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US > dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these > contracts was over $2 billion. > > 2003: (73 years old) > By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 > million dollars. > Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted > by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for > President in 2004.[14] > > 2004: (74 years old) > Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola > Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of > interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy > buyers > of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor > Pepsi? " > > 2005: (75 years old) > The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar > strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance > divisions. > > 2006: (76 years old) > > Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re > Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American > International Group. > Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has > ever made outside of the United States. > Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about > $37 > billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of > stock starting in July 2006. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK > " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> > <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> > Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the > > possibility > > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > [HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On > > Behalf > > Of Vyas Munidas > > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > > > > > Dearest Jorge (and list), > > > > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows > > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 > > > > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 Budapest, > > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 > > > > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please take > > a > > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: > 28.07.2006 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: > 31.07.2006 > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 Dear Sheri, Much thanks. Keep it coming, I appreciate your efforts on this. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace Saturday, August 05, 2006 2:30 AM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Vyas, Here is more information I got from searching the web. Buffett's wife Susan died on either July 29 or July 30, 2004 from a stroke, I believe in San Francisco. Mother Leila died in 1996 (no date) at the age of 92, probably in Omaha. Children's birthdates-(I think in Omaha)Susan Alice Buffett-born July 30, 1953, Howard Graham Buffett-born Dec 16, 1954,(actually, I read Howard was born shortly after they moved to New York-they lived there two years) Peter Andrew Buffett-born May 4, 1958. Hope this helps- Sheri Sheri Powers <mermaidslace wrote: Dear Vyas, Here is more information on Buffett. Unfortunately, the book is somewhat vague on some of the dates. His first child, Susie was born around 1952, 2nd child Howard around 1954, and 3rd child, Peter around 1956. The SEC investigation about Westco and Blue Chip- " first hint of trouble " was in the fall of 1974. Buffett's partner, Munger appeared before the SEC in March, 1975, the case dragged on through 1975, In December 1975, Buffett's lawyer pleaded for an end to the case, some time in 1976 the SEC settled, Blue Chip (Buffett and Munger's com.) had to pay 115,000 but no action against Buffett.(Buffett was always calm and did very well in testifying, and didn't appear upset about investigation, and he was appointed to a panel by SEC shortly after the invest. concluded.) In 1973, Buffett began buying stock in the Washington Post. He became friends with Katherine Graham, the publisher/owner, became a director (with 10 % of the stock) on the board in the fall of 1974,(coming onto the social scene of Washington around this time) and stayed 11 years, greatly increasing profitability of the paper. In Nov 1976, Buffett(25%) and Soloman Brothers underwrote GEICO Insurance for 76 million, saving the company, and since the stock was really cheap, later making a huge profit. Buffett's wife Susie, left in late 1977 early 1978 (sorry the book was vague about the dates) and moved to San Francisco. Buffett was depressed about a year. Susie encouraged other women to visit Buffett, and within a year of her leaving, Astrid Menks and Warren began dating and she moved in with him. Buffett and his wife traveled together, and Susie was friendly with Astrid. Buffett recovered and was happy. No mention of divorce yet in the book, maybe they never divorced. I will write more later--Sheri Powers Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Sheri, Thank you. I look forward to your posts on this. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace Friday, August 04, 2006 6:49 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Vyas, Glad to help if I can. I am at work, so it will take a while. Also, the book doesn't always list exact dates. The date for the father's passing is as Arun said, 4/30/1964. I believe went by the 1966 date in the list provided in examining the father's death. Some significant dates I found so far- Father's bank closed and he last job and all savings- Aug 13, 1931 in Omaha, Nebraska. Family fortunes improved gradually and they moved into a bigger home when Warren was 6. Older sister born in 1928-no date. Younger sister is 3 years younger than Warren, no date. Married- 3rd Saturday in April, 1952- Omaha, Nebraska. Gained control of Berkshire/Hathaway at a board meeting-May 10, 1965, Bedford Massachusetts, becoming chairman of the executive comittee and installing Ken Chace as president. I'll have more later- Sheri Powers Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Sheri, Please if you have the time, from the book provide us with dates of: 1) Birth of his three children 2) Death of father and mother 3) Separation from wife 4) Scandals involving the SEC and other bodies into his activities 5) Anything else that is significant (broken limbs, accidents, etc) Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:33 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear List, Vyas got me interested in Warren Buffett, and I checked out the book " Buffet, The Making of an American Capitalist " by Roger Lowenstein, at the library. The book has a lot of good personal information, though no birth time. On Aug 13, 1931, Warren's father's bank where he worked closed, and he lost his job and all savings. Also, Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. (perhaps debillitated moon in 4th-Oprah Winfrey, according to internet sources, is Leo with moon in fourth and had problems with mother). On Aug 13, 1931, the most afflicted ascendants for father were Leo, Sagittarius, and Aquarius. On Warren's date of birth, the ascendants with the most strong benefics were -Leo-5, Libra-4, Sagittarius-5, Aquarius-4, Aries-4, and Gemini-5. (This is keeping the MEP away from nodes). Leo, however, had the most combinations for wealth (benefics in or aspecting 2, 5, 11, and 9. Warren and family suffered poverty in his early years due to the depression, and this provided strong motivation to Warren- by the age of 5 he was stating he would grow up and be very rich. With the Leo ascendant,(depending on degree) Warren was born in Ketu subperiod, followed by weak Venus subperiod. If he is Leo, since the chart is so strong, the early weak sub periods provided strong motivation rather than hampering him in life. I was randomly checking a 6:40 birthtime which gave around 22 degrees Leo, but will check out 's suggestion of around 13 degrees rising. I will finish reading the book and check out the events against the other likely ascendants-I was strongly favoring a Leo ascendant, and glad to hear that the Professor and Arun see the same thing. But I will check out the other ascendant to make sure I am objective. I also saw strong possibility with Sagittarius and Aquarius. I really enjoy the list discussion-Sincerely, Sheri Powers Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: Dear Vyas, The nature of the prime determinant of profession should also be looked at. In the case of Leo, Mercury is the trader of the zodiac. Coupled with strong 5th/11th houses, a career in speculative activities seems to be a stronger possibility. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Arun, As you've pointed out Saturnian influence can give this frugality. How about an Aq asc? Certainly it would show strong Sun/Leo traits with Su L7 Aq if the MEP is as suspected. It shows show fantastic affluence through investments as well. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:38 AM Re: Warren Buffett My dear Esteemed Professor and Vyas, Leo ascendant folk (myself included) have a unique look, especially when the Sun influences the ascendant or 2nd house (face) closely. One can expect a wider face with strong bone structure therein. The nose may be prominent and somewhat wide. Mr. Buffett also has a strong forehead, which is consistent with other Leo's. Hence my initial assessment was Leo. Being one, I know one when I see one Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello Vyas, Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. Best wishes, - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM Re: Warren Buffett > Dear Professor, > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the world > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > My dear Vyas, > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > Leo > Virgo > Libra > Pisces > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. > > What do you think? > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the > chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. > > If this helps the discussion... > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many > years > ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed > with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him > better, contact-wise. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > On Behalf > Of Arun Rao > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > Thank you for your efforts. > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general > overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, > it > becomes guesswork. > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously > we > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. > > But deeper examination is needed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK > " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: > Dear Vyas, > > Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous > message. > > Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in > a > successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no > trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list > members > have a better luck. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > HYPERLINK > " %40 " > [HYPERLINK > " %40 " ] On Behalf Of > Vyas Munidas > terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 > HYPERLINK " %40 " > Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > Dear Jorge, > > Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this > chart. > He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a > timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes > that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other > esteemed > members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. > > Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST > > 1944: (14 years old) > invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland > > 1945: (15 years old) > first job > > 1947: (17 years old) > freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. > > 1950: (20 years old) > Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at > Columbia. > > 1952: (22 years old) > Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female > > 1954: (24 years old) > New job with Graham > Second child, male > > 1956: (26 years old) > Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett > family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett > Associates, > Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a > total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of > the year, > > 1957: (27 years old) > Third child, Peter, > Purchased a five-bedroom house > > 1960: (30 years old) > Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who > will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, > 11 > doctors agreed to invest. > > 1961: (31 years old) > With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million > investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. > > 1965: (35 years old) > Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) > > 1968: (38 years old) > Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts > college in Iowa. > > 1969: (39 years old) > Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and > liquidated its assets to his partners. > > 1971: (41 years old) > At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna > Beach. > > 1974: (44 years old) > Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio > began > to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. > Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into > Warren > GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the > investigation. > > 1977: (47 years old) > Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. > Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing > paper. > Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This > caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. > > 1983: (53 years old) > Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the > first > time. > > 1988: (58 years old) > Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up > to > 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of > Berkshire's most lucrative investments. > > 1989: (59 years old) > Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth > rose > with it to $3.8 billion. > > 1997: (67 years old) > Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at > about $6 per ounce. > > 2002: (72 years old) > Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US > dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these > contracts was over $2 billion. > > 2003: (73 years old) > By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 > million dollars. > Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted > by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for > President in 2004.[14] > > 2004: (74 years old) > Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola > Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of > interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy > buyers > of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor > Pepsi? " > > 2005: (75 years old) > The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar > strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance > divisions. > > 2006: (76 years old) > > Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re > Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American > International Group. > Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has > ever made outside of the United States. > Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about > $37 > billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of > stock starting in July 2006. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK > " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> > <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> > Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the > > possibility > > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > [HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On > > Behalf > > Of Vyas Munidas > > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > > > > > Dearest Jorge (and list), > > > > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows > > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 > > > > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 Budapest, > > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 > > > > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please take > > a > > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: > 28.07.2006 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: > 31.07.2006 > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2006 Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 Dear Vyas- I do have another event. In 1981, Warren Buffett nearly drown. He was on a boat with friends piloted by Mr.Munger, and due to Mr. Munger's carelessness, the boat capsized, trapping Warren under the boat. He was pulled out by a friend and narrowly escaped drowning. There was no date for this, but since it was on a lake in Minnesota, and Minnesota is very cold most of the year, I'm guessing it was probably in the summer. In the summer of 1981, I noticed that Rahu/Ketu axis was stationary in Cancer/Capricorn at around 7 degrees, which closely aspected his natal moon, depending on which ascendant you are using for Mr. Buffett. Maybe someone knows the date this incident occurred? The book was vague. Thanks--Sheri Powers Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Sheri, Much thanks. Keep it coming, I appreciate your efforts on this. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace Saturday, August 05, 2006 2:30 AM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Vyas, Here is more information I got from searching the web. Buffett's wife Susan died on either July 29 or July 30, 2004 from a stroke, I believe in San Francisco. Mother Leila died in 1996 (no date) at the age of 92, probably in Omaha. Children's birthdates-(I think in Omaha)Susan Alice Buffett-born July 30, 1953, Howard Graham Buffett-born Dec 16, 1954,(actually, I read Howard was born shortly after they moved to New York-they lived there two years) Peter Andrew Buffett-born May 4, 1958. Hope this helps- Sheri Sheri Powers <mermaidslace wrote: Dear Vyas, Here is more information on Buffett. Unfortunately, the book is somewhat vague on some of the dates. His first child, Susie was born around 1952, 2nd child Howard around 1954, and 3rd child, Peter around 1956. The SEC investigation about Westco and Blue Chip- " first hint of trouble " was in the fall of 1974. Buffett's partner, Munger appeared before the SEC in March, 1975, the case dragged on through 1975, In December 1975, Buffett's lawyer pleaded for an end to the case, some time in 1976 the SEC settled, Blue Chip (Buffett and Munger's com.) had to pay 115,000 but no action against Buffett.(Buffett was always calm and did very well in testifying, and didn't appear upset about investigation, and he was appointed to a panel by SEC shortly after the invest. concluded.) In 1973, Buffett began buying stock in the Washington Post. He became friends with Katherine Graham, the publisher/owner, became a director (with 10 % of the stock) on the board in the fall of 1974,(coming onto the social scene of Washington around this time) and stayed 11 years, greatly increasing profitability of the paper. In Nov 1976, Buffett(25%) and Soloman Brothers underwrote GEICO Insurance for 76 million, saving the company, and since the stock was really cheap, later making a huge profit. Buffett's wife Susie, left in late 1977 early 1978 (sorry the book was vague about the dates) and moved to San Francisco. Buffett was depressed about a year. Susie encouraged other women to visit Buffett, and within a year of her leaving, Astrid Menks and Warren began dating and she moved in with him. Buffett and his wife traveled together, and Susie was friendly with Astrid. Buffett recovered and was happy. No mention of divorce yet in the book, maybe they never divorced. I will write more later--Sheri Powers Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Sheri, Thank you. I look forward to your posts on this. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace Friday, August 04, 2006 6:49 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Vyas, Glad to help if I can. I am at work, so it will take a while. Also, the book doesn't always list exact dates. The date for the father's passing is as Arun said, 4/30/1964. I believe went by the 1966 date in the list provided in examining the father's death. Some significant dates I found so far- Father's bank closed and he last job and all savings- Aug 13, 1931 in Omaha, Nebraska. Family fortunes improved gradually and they moved into a bigger home when Warren was 6. Older sister born in 1928-no date. Younger sister is 3 years younger than Warren, no date. Married- 3rd Saturday in April, 1952- Omaha, Nebraska. Gained control of Berkshire/Hathaway at a board meeting-May 10, 1965, Bedford Massachusetts, becoming chairman of the executive comittee and installing Ken Chace as president. I'll have more later- Sheri Powers Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Sheri, Please if you have the time, from the book provide us with dates of: 1) Birth of his three children 2) Death of father and mother 3) Separation from wife 4) Scandals involving the SEC and other bodies into his activities 5) Anything else that is significant (broken limbs, accidents, etc) Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:33 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear List, Vyas got me interested in Warren Buffett, and I checked out the book " Buffet, The Making of an American Capitalist " by Roger Lowenstein, at the library. The book has a lot of good personal information, though no birth time. On Aug 13, 1931, Warren's father's bank where he worked closed, and he lost his job and all savings. Also, Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. (perhaps debillitated moon in 4th-Oprah Winfrey, according to internet sources, is Leo with moon in fourth and had problems with mother). On Aug 13, 1931, the most afflicted ascendants for father were Leo, Sagittarius, and Aquarius. On Warren's date of birth, the ascendants with the most strong benefics were -Leo-5, Libra-4, Sagittarius-5, Aquarius-4, Aries-4, and Gemini-5. (This is keeping the MEP away from nodes). Leo, however, had the most combinations for wealth (benefics in or aspecting 2, 5, 11, and 9. Warren and family suffered poverty in his early years due to the depression, and this provided strong motivation to Warren- by the age of 5 he was stating he would grow up and be very rich. With the Leo ascendant,(depending on degree) Warren was born in Ketu subperiod, followed by weak Venus subperiod. If he is Leo, since the chart is so strong, the early weak sub periods provided strong motivation rather than hampering him in life. I was randomly checking a 6:40 birthtime which gave around 22 degrees Leo, but will check out 's suggestion of around 13 degrees rising. I will finish reading the book and check out the events against the other likely ascendants-I was strongly favoring a Leo ascendant, and glad to hear that the Professor and Arun see the same thing. But I will check out the other ascendant to make sure I am objective. I also saw strong possibility with Sagittarius and Aquarius. I really enjoy the list discussion-Sincerely, Sheri Powers Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: Dear Vyas, The nature of the prime determinant of profession should also be looked at. In the case of Leo, Mercury is the trader of the zodiac. Coupled with strong 5th/11th houses, a career in speculative activities seems to be a stronger possibility. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Arun, As you've pointed out Saturnian influence can give this frugality. How about an Aq asc? Certainly it would show strong Sun/Leo traits with Su L7 Aq if the MEP is as suspected. It shows show fantastic affluence through investments as well. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:38 AM Re: Warren Buffett My dear Esteemed Professor and Vyas, Leo ascendant folk (myself included) have a unique look, especially when the Sun influences the ascendant or 2nd house (face) closely. One can expect a wider face with strong bone structure therein. The nose may be prominent and somewhat wide. Mr. Buffett also has a strong forehead, which is consistent with other Leo's. Hence my initial assessment was Leo. Being one, I know one when I see one Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello Vyas, Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. Best wishes, - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM Re: Warren Buffett > Dear Professor, > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the world > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > My dear Vyas, > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > Leo > Virgo > Libra > Pisces > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. > > What do you think? > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the > chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. > > If this helps the discussion... > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many > years > ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed > with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him > better, contact-wise. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > On Behalf > Of Arun Rao > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > Thank you for your efforts. > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general > overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, > it > becomes guesswork. > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously > we > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. > > But deeper examination is needed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK > " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: > Dear Vyas, > > Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous > message. > > Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in > a > successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no > trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list > members > have a better luck. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > HYPERLINK > " %40 " > [HYPERLINK > " %40 " ] On Behalf Of > Vyas Munidas > terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 > HYPERLINK " %40 " > Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > Dear Jorge, > > Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this > chart. > He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a > timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes > that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other > esteemed > members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. > > Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST > > 1944: (14 years old) > invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland > > 1945: (15 years old) > first job > > 1947: (17 years old) > freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. > > 1950: (20 years old) > Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at > Columbia. > > 1952: (22 years old) > Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female > > 1954: (24 years old) > New job with Graham > Second child, male > > 1956: (26 years old) > Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett > family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett > Associates, > Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a > total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of > the year, > > 1957: (27 years old) > Third child, Peter, > Purchased a five-bedroom house > > 1960: (30 years old) > Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who > will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, > 11 > doctors agreed to invest. > > 1961: (31 years old) > With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million > investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. > > 1965: (35 years old) > Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) > > 1968: (38 years old) > Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts > college in Iowa. > > 1969: (39 years old) > Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and > liquidated its assets to his partners. > > 1971: (41 years old) > At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna > Beach. > > 1974: (44 years old) > Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio > began > to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. > Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into > Warren > GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the > investigation. > > 1977: (47 years old) > Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. > Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing > paper. > Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This > caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. > > 1983: (53 years old) > Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the > first > time. > > 1988: (58 years old) > Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up > to > 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of > Berkshire's most lucrative investments. > > 1989: (59 years old) > Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth > rose > with it to $3.8 billion. > > 1997: (67 years old) > Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at > about $6 per ounce. > > 2002: (72 years old) > Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US > dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these > contracts was over $2 billion. > > 2003: (73 years old) > By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 > million dollars. > Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted > by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for > President in 2004.[14] > > 2004: (74 years old) > Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola > Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of > interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy > buyers > of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor > Pepsi? " > > 2005: (75 years old) > The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar > strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance > divisions. > > 2006: (76 years old) > > Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re > Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American > International Group. > Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has > ever made outside of the United States. > Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about > $37 > billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of > stock starting in July 2006. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK > " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> > <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> > Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the > > possibility > > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > [HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On > > Behalf > > Of Vyas Munidas > > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > > > > > Dearest Jorge (and list), > > > > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows > > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 > > > > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 Budapest, > > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 > > > > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please take > > a > > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: > 28.07.2006 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: > 31.07.2006 > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2006 Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 Dear Sheri, Thanks for sharing this new event. For a random sample, I noticed this not only stationary Rahu/Ketu axis is afflicting his L1, but also the possibility exists of its MEP3 being exactly afflicted simultaneously by transit Jupiter and transit Saturn, as they are slow planets. Both will come under the aspect of natal Saturn from house 6. Transit Saturn could have been afflicting MEP5, and L1 consequently. And the operational dasha of the rectified chart was Ve/Ju/Mo. Natal Jupiter, L6, is placed in H12 (accidents related with drowning). Transit Jupiter is simultaneously under the affliction of transit Saturn and natal Saturn. Again, it was an intelligent friend (strong natal Mercury, L3) who must have saved the native. Best wishes, Jorge On Behalf Of Sheri Powers domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006 01:38 Re: Warren Buffett Dear Vyas- I do have another event. In 1981, Warren Buffett nearly drown. He was on a boat with friends piloted by Mr.Munger, and due to Mr. Munger's carelessness, the boat capsized, trapping Warren under the boat. He was pulled out by a friend and narrowly escaped drowning. There was no date for this, but since it was on a lake in Minnesota, and Minnesota is very cold most of the year, I'm guessing it was probably in the summer. In the summer of 1981, I noticed that Rahu/Ketu axis was stationary in Cancer/Capricorn at around 7 degrees, which closely aspected his natal moon, depending on which ascendant you are using for Mr. Buffett. Maybe someone knows the date this incident occurred? The book was vague. Thanks--Sheri Powers Vyas Munidas <munidas (AT) rogers (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Sheri, Much thanks. Keep it coming, I appreciate your efforts on this. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace > Saturday, August 05, 2006 2:30 AM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Vyas, Here is more information I got from searching the web. Buffett's wife Susan died on either July 29 or July 30, 2004 from a stroke, I believe in San Francisco. Mother Leila died in 1996 (no date) at the age of 92, probably in Omaha. Children's birthdates-(I think in Omaha)Susan Alice Buffett-born July 30, 1953, Howard Graham Buffett-born Dec 16, 1954,(actually, I read Howard was born shortly after they moved to New York-they lived there two years) Peter Andrew Buffett-born May 4, 1958. Hope this helps- Sheri Sheri Powers <mermaidslace > wrote: Dear Vyas, Here is more information on Buffett. Unfortunately, the book is somewhat vague on some of the dates. His first child, Susie was born around 1952, 2nd child Howard around 1954, and 3rd child, Peter around 1956. The SEC investigation about Westco and Blue Chip- " first hint of trouble " was in the fall of 1974. Buffett's partner, Munger appeared before the SEC in March, 1975, the case dragged on through 1975, In December 1975, Buffett's lawyer pleaded for an end to the case, some time in 1976 the SEC settled, Blue Chip (Buffett and Munger's com.) had to pay 115,000 but no action against Buffett.(Buffett was always calm and did very well in testifying, and didn't appear upset about investigation, and he was appointed to a panel by SEC shortly after the invest. concluded.) In 1973, Buffett began buying stock in the Washington Post. He became friends with Katherine Graham, the publisher/owner, became a director (with 10 % of the stock) on the board in the fall of 1974,(coming onto the social scene of Washington around this time) and stayed 11 years, greatly increasing profitability of the paper. In Nov 1976, Buffett(25%) and Soloman Brothers underwrote GEICO Insurance for 76 million, saving the company, and since the stock was really cheap, later making a huge profit. Buffett's wife Susie, left in late 1977 early 1978 (sorry the book was vague about the dates) and moved to San Francisco. Buffett was depressed about a year. Susie encouraged other women to visit Buffett, and within a year of her leaving, Astrid Menks and Warren began dating and she moved in with him. Buffett and his wife traveled together, and Susie was friendly with Astrid. Buffett recovered and was happy. No mention of divorce yet in the book, maybe they never divorced. I will write more later--Sheri Powers Vyas Munidas <munidas (AT) rogers (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Sheri, Thank you. I look forward to your posts on this. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace > Friday, August 04, 2006 6:49 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Vyas, Glad to help if I can. I am at work, so it will take a while. Also, the book doesn't always list exact dates. The date for the father's passing is as Arun said, 4/30/1964. I believe went by the 1966 date in the list provided in examining the father's death. Some significant dates I found so far- Father's bank closed and he last job and all savings- Aug 13, 1931 in Omaha, Nebraska. Family fortunes improved gradually and they moved into a bigger home when Warren was 6. Older sister born in 1928-no date. Younger sister is 3 years younger than Warren, no date. Married- 3rd Saturday in April, 1952- Omaha, Nebraska. Gained control of Berkshire/Hathaway at a board meeting-May 10, 1965, Bedford Massachusetts, becoming chairman of the executive comittee and installing Ken Chace as president. I'll have more later- Sheri Powers Vyas Munidas <munidas (AT) rogers (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Sheri, Please if you have the time, from the book provide us with dates of: 1) Birth of his three children 2) Death of father and mother 3) Separation from wife 4) Scandals involving the SEC and other bodies into his activities 5) Anything else that is significant (broken limbs, accidents, etc) Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Sheri Powers " <mermaidslace > Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:33 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear List, Vyas got me interested in Warren Buffett, and I checked out the book " Buffet, The Making of an American Capitalist " by Roger Lowenstein, at the library. The book has a lot of good personal information, though no birth time. On Aug 13, 1931, Warren's father's bank where he worked closed, and he lost his job and all savings. Also, Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. (perhaps debillitated moon in 4th-Oprah Winfrey, according to internet sources, is Leo with moon in fourth and had problems with mother). On Aug 13, 1931, the most afflicted ascendants for father were Leo, Sagittarius, and Aquarius. On Warren's date of birth, the ascendants with the most strong benefics were -Leo-5, Libra-4, Sagittarius-5, Aquarius-4, Aries-4, and Gemini-5. (This is keeping the MEP away from nodes). Leo, however, had the most combinations for wealth (benefics in or aspecting 2, 5, 11, and 9. Warren and family suffered poverty in his early years due to the depression, and this provided strong motivation to Warren- by the age of 5 he was stating he would grow up and be very rich. With the Leo ascendant,(depending on degree) Warren was born in Ketu subperiod, followed by weak Venus subperiod. If he is Leo, since the chart is so strong, the early weak sub periods provided strong motivation rather than hampering him in life. I was randomly checking a 6:40 birthtime which gave around 22 degrees Leo, but will check out 's suggestion of around 13 degrees rising. I will finish reading the book and check out the events against the other likely ascendants-I was strongly favoring a Leo ascendant, and glad to hear that the Professor and Arun see the same thing. But I will check out the other ascendant to make sure I am objective. I also saw strong possibility with Sagittarius and Aquarius. I really enjoy the list discussion-Sincerely, Sheri Powers Arun Rao <arunrao9 > wrote: Dear Vyas, The nature of the prime determinant of profession should also be looked at. In the case of Leo, Mercury is the trader of the zodiac. Coupled with strong 5th/11th houses, a career in speculative activities seems to be a stronger possibility. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <munidas (AT) rogers (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Arun, As you've pointed out Saturnian influence can give this frugality. How about an Aq asc? Certainly it would show strong Sun/Leo traits with Su L7 Aq if the MEP is as suspected. It shows show fantastic affluence through investments as well. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:38 AM Re: Warren Buffett My dear Esteemed Professor and Vyas, Leo ascendant folk (myself included) have a unique look, especially when the Sun influences the ascendant or 2nd house (face) closely. One can expect a wider face with strong bone structure therein. The nose may be prominent and somewhat wide. Mr. Buffett also has a strong forehead, which is consistent with other Leo's. Hence my initial assessment was Leo. Being one, I know one when I see one Best Wishes, Arun siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com wrote: Hello Vyas, Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. Best wishes, - " Vyas Munidas " <munidas (AT) rogers (DOT) com> Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM Re: Warren Buffett > Dear Professor, > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the world > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > My dear Vyas, > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > Leo > Virgo > Libra > Pisces > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. > > What do you think? > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Vyas Munidas <munidas (AT) rogers (DOT) com> wrote: > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the > chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. > > If this helps the discussion... > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many > years > ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed > with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him > better, contact-wise. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino (AT) netvisao (DOT) pt> > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > On Behalf > Of Arun Rao > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > Thank you for your efforts. > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general > overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, > it > becomes guesswork. > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously > we > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. > > But deeper examination is needed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK > " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: > Dear Vyas, > > Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous > message. > > Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in > a > successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no > trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list > members > have a better luck. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > HYPERLINK > " %40 " (AT) -s (DOT) com > [HYPERLINK > " %40 " (AT) -s (DOT) com] On Behalf Of > Vyas Munidas > terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 > HYPERLINK " %40 " (AT) -s (DOT) com > Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > Dear Jorge, > > Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this > chart. > He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a > timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes > that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other > esteemed > members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. > > Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST > > 1944: (14 years old) > invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland > > 1945: (15 years old) > first job > > 1947: (17 years old) > freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. > > 1950: (20 years old) > Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at > Columbia. > > 1952: (22 years old) > Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female > > 1954: (24 years old) > New job with Graham > Second child, male > > 1956: (26 years old) > Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett > family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett > Associates, > Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a > total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of > the year, > > 1957: (27 years old) > Third child, Peter, > Purchased a five-bedroom house > > 1960: (30 years old) > Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who > will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, > 11 > doctors agreed to invest. > > 1961: (31 years old) > With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million > investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. > > 1965: (35 years old) > Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) > > 1968: (38 years old) > Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts > college in Iowa. > > 1969: (39 years old) > Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and > liquidated its assets to his partners. > > 1971: (41 years old) > At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna > Beach. > > 1974: (44 years old) > Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio > began > to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. > Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into > Warren > GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the > investigation. > > 1977: (47 years old) > Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. > Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing > paper. > Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This > caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. > > 1983: (53 years old) > Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the > first > time. > > 1988: (58 years old) > Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up > to > 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of > Berkshire's most lucrative investments. > > 1989: (59 years old) > Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth > rose > with it to $3.8 billion. > > 1997: (67 years old) > Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at > about $6 per ounce. > > 2002: (72 years old) > Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US > dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these > contracts was over $2 billion. > > 2003: (73 years old) > By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 > million dollars. > Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted > by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for > President in 2004.[14] > > 2004: (74 years old) > Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola > Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of > interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy > buyers > of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor > Pepsi? " > > 2005: (75 years old) > The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar > strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance > divisions. > > 2006: (76 years old) > > Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re > Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American > International Group. > Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has > ever made outside of the United States. > Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about > $37 > billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of > stock starting in July 2006. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK > " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> > <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> > Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the > > possibility > > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--Warren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--Warren_Buffet > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > [HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On > > Behalf > > Of Vyas Munidas > > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > > > > > Dearest Jorge (and list), > > > > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows > > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 > > > > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 Budapest, > > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 > > > > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please take > > a > > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: > 28.07.2006 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: > 31.07.2006 > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2006 Report Share Posted August 6, 2006 Dear Sheri, Thanks for sharing this new event. For a random sample, I noticed this not only stationary Rahu/Ketu axis is afflicting his L1, but also the possibility exists of its MEP3 being exactly afflicted simultaneously by transit Jupiter and transit Saturn, as they are slow planets. Both will come under the aspect of natal Saturn from house 6. Transit Saturn could have been afflicting MEP5, and L1 consequently. And the operational dasha of the rectified chart was Ve/Ju/Mo. Natal Jupiter, L6, is placed in H12 (accidents related with drowning). Transit Jupiter is simultaneously under the affliction of transit Saturn and natal Saturn. Again, it was an intelligent friend (strong natal Mercury, L3) who must have saved the native. Best wishes, Jorge On Behalf Of Sheri Powers domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006 01:38 Re: Warren Buffett Dear Vyas- I do have another event. In 1981, Warren Buffett nearly drown. He was on a boat with friends piloted by Mr.Munger, and due to Mr. Munger's carelessness, the boat capsized, trapping Warren under the boat. He was pulled out by a friend and narrowly escaped drowning. There was no date for this, but since it was on a lake in Minnesota, and Minnesota is very cold most of the year, I'm guessing it was probably in the summer. In the summer of 1981, I noticed that Rahu/Ketu axis was stationary in Cancer/Capricorn at around 7 degrees, which closely aspected his natal moon, depending on which ascendant you are using for Mr. Buffett. Maybe someone knows the date this incident occurred? The book was vague. Thanks--Sheri Powers Vyas Munidas <HYPERLINK " munidas%40rogers.com " munidas (AT) rogers (DOT) -com> wrote: Dear Sheri, Much thanks. Keep it coming, I appreciate your efforts on this. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Sheri Powers " <HYPERLINK " mermaidslace%40 " mermaidslace@-> <HYPERLINK " %40 " Saturday, August 05, 2006 2:30 AM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Vyas, Here is more information I got from searching the web. Buffett's wife Susan died on either July 29 or July 30, 2004 from a stroke, I believe in San Francisco. Mother Leila died in 1996 (no date) at the age of 92, probably in Omaha. Children's birthdates-(-I think in Omaha)Susan Alice Buffett-born July 30, 1953, Howard Graham Buffett-born Dec 16, 1954,(actually, I read Howard was born shortly after they moved to New York-they lived there two years) Peter Andrew Buffett-born May 4, 1958. Hope this helps- Sheri Sheri Powers <HYPERLINK " mermaidslace%40 " mermaidslace@-> wrote: Dear Vyas, Here is more information on Buffett. Unfortunately, the book is somewhat vague on some of the dates. His first child, Susie was born around 1952, 2nd child Howard around 1954, and 3rd child, Peter around 1956. The SEC investigation about Westco and Blue Chip- " first hint of trouble " was in the fall of 1974. Buffett's partner, Munger appeared before the SEC in March, 1975, the case dragged on through 1975, In December 1975, Buffett's lawyer pleaded for an end to the case, some time in 1976 the SEC settled, Blue Chip (Buffett and Munger's com.) had to pay 115,000 but no action against Buffett.(Buffett was always calm and did very well in testifying, and didn't appear upset about investigation, and he was appointed to a panel by SEC shortly after the invest. concluded.) In 1973, Buffett began buying stock in the Washington Post. He became friends with Katherine Graham, the publisher/owner, became a director (with 10 % of the stock) on the board in the fall of 1974,(coming onto the social scene of Washington around this time) and stayed 11 years, greatly increasing profitability of the paper. In Nov 1976, Buffett(25%) and Soloman Brothers underwrote GEICO Insurance for 76 million, saving the company, and since the stock was really cheap, later making a huge profit. Buffett's wife Susie, left in late 1977 early 1978 (sorry the book was vague about the dates) and moved to San Francisco. Buffett was depressed about a year. Susie encouraged other women to visit Buffett, and within a year of her leaving, Astrid Menks and Warren began dating and she moved in with him. Buffett and his wife traveled together, and Susie was friendly with Astrid. Buffett recovered and was happy. No mention of divorce yet in the book, maybe they never divorced. I will write more later--Sheri Powers Vyas Munidas <HYPERLINK " munidas%40rogers.com " munidas (AT) rogers (DOT) -com> wrote: Dear Sheri, Thank you. I look forward to your posts on this. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Sheri Powers " <HYPERLINK " mermaidslace%40 " mermaidslace@-> <HYPERLINK " %40 " Friday, August 04, 2006 6:49 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Vyas, Glad to help if I can. I am at work, so it will take a while. Also, the book doesn't always list exact dates. The date for the father's passing is as Arun said, 4/30/1964. I believe went by the 1966 date in the list provided in examining the father's death. Some significant dates I found so far- Father's bank closed and he last job and all savings- Aug 13, 1931 in Omaha, Nebraska. Family fortunes improved gradually and they moved into a bigger home when Warren was 6. Older sister born in 1928-no date. Younger sister is 3 years younger than Warren, no date. Married- 3rd Saturday in April, 1952- Omaha, Nebraska. Gained control of Berkshire/Hathaway at a board meeting-May 10, 1965, Bedford Massachusetts, becoming chairman of the executive comittee and installing Ken Chace as president. I'll have more later- Sheri Powers Vyas Munidas <HYPERLINK " munidas%40rogers.com " munidas (AT) rogers (DOT) -com> wrote: Dear Sheri, Please if you have the time, from the book provide us with dates of: 1) Birth of his three children 2) Death of father and mother 3) Separation from wife 4) Scandals involving the SEC and other bodies into his activities 5) Anything else that is significant (broken limbs, accidents, etc) Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Sheri Powers " <HYPERLINK " mermaidslace%40 " mermaidslace@-> <HYPERLINK " %40 " Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:33 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear List, Vyas got me interested in Warren Buffett, and I checked out the book " Buffet, The Making of an American Capitalist " by Roger Lowenstein, at the library. The book has a lot of good personal information, though no birth time. On Aug 13, 1931, Warren's father's bank where he worked closed, and he lost his job and all savings. Also, Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. (perhaps debillitated moon in 4th-Oprah Winfrey, according to internet sources, is Leo with moon in fourth and had problems with mother). On Aug 13, 1931, the most afflicted ascendants for father were Leo, Sagittarius, and Aquarius. On Warren's date of birth, the ascendants with the most strong benefics were -Leo-5, Libra-4, Sagittarius--5, Aquarius-4, Aries-4, and Gemini-5. (This is keeping the MEP away from nodes). Leo, however, had the most combinations for wealth (benefics in or aspecting 2, 5, 11, and 9. Warren and family suffered poverty in his early years due to the depression, and this provided strong motivation to Warren- by the age of 5 he was stating he would grow up and be very rich. With the Leo ascendant,(dependin-g on degree) Warren was born in Ketu subperiod, followed by weak Venus subperiod. If he is Leo, since the chart is so strong, the early weak sub periods provided strong motivation rather than hampering him in life. I was randomly checking a 6:40 birthtime which gave around 22 degrees Leo, but will check out 's suggestion of around 13 degrees rising. I will finish reading the book and check out the events against the other likely ascendants-I was strongly favoring a Leo ascendant, and glad to hear that the Professor and Arun see the same thing. But I will check out the other ascendant to make sure I am objective. I also saw strong possibility with Sagittarius and Aquarius. I really enjoy the list discussion-Sincerel-y, Sheri Powers Arun Rao <HYPERLINK " arunrao9%40 " arunrao9 (AT) (DOT) -com> wrote: Dear Vyas, The nature of the prime determinant of profession should also be looked at. In the case of Leo, Mercury is the trader of the zodiac. Coupled with strong 5th/11th houses, a career in speculative activities seems to be a stronger possibility. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <HYPERLINK " munidas%40rogers.com " munidas (AT) rogers (DOT) -com> wrote: Dear Arun, As you've pointed out Saturnian influence can give this frugality. How about an Aq asc? Certainly it would show strong Sun/Leo traits with Su L7 Aq if the MEP is as suspected. It shows show fantastic affluence through investments as well. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <HYPERLINK " arunrao9%40 " arunrao9 (AT) (DOT) -com> <HYPERLINK " %40 " Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:38 AM Re: Warren Buffett My dear Esteemed Professor and Vyas, Leo ascendant folk (myself included) have a unique look, especially when the Sun influences the ascendant or 2nd house (face) closely. One can expect a wider face with strong bone structure therein. The nose may be prominent and somewhat wide. Mr. Buffett also has a strong forehead, which is consistent with other Leo's. Hence my initial assessment was Leo. Being one, I know one when I see one Best Wishes, Arun HYPERLINK " siha%40yournetastrologer.com " siha wrote: Hello Vyas, Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. Best wishes, - " Vyas Munidas " <HYPERLINK " munidas%40rogers.com " munidas (AT) rogers (DOT) -com> <HYPERLINK " %40 " Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM Re: Warren Buffett > Dear Professor, > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the world > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > " Arun Rao " <HYPERLINK " arunrao9%40 " arunrao9 (AT) (DOT) -com> > <HYPERLINK " %40 " > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > My dear Vyas, > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > Leo > Virgo > Libra > Pisces > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. > > What do you think? > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Vyas Munidas <HYPERLINK " munidas%40rogers.com " munidas (AT) rogers (DOT) -com> wrote: > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the > chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. > > If this helps the discussion..-. > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many > years > ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed > with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him > better, contact-wise. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> > <HYPERLINK " %40 " > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > HYPERLINK " %40 " [HYPERLINK " %40 " ] On Behalf > Of Arun Rao > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > HYPERLINK " %40 " > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > Thank you for your efforts. > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general > overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, > it > becomes guesswork. > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously > we > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. > > But deeper examination is needed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK > " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> wrote: > Dear Vyas, > > Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous > message. > > Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in > a > successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no > trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list > members > have a better luck. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > HYPERLINK > " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > [HYPERLINK > " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On Behalf Of > Vyas Munidas > terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > Dear Jorge, > > Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this > chart. > He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a > timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes > that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other > esteemed > members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. > > Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST > > 1944: (14 years old) > invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland > > 1945: (15 years old) > first job > > 1947: (17 years old) > freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. > > 1950: (20 years old) > Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at > Columbia. > > 1952: (22 years old) > Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female > > 1954: (24 years old) > New job with Graham > Second child, male > > 1956: (26 years old) > Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett > family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett > Associates, > Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a > total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of > the year, > > 1957: (27 years old) > Third child, Peter, > Purchased a five-bedroom house > > 1960: (30 years old) > Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who > will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, > 11 > doctors agreed to invest. > > 1961: (31 years old) > With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million > investment in a windmill-manufactur---ing company. > > 1965: (35 years old) > Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) > > 1968: (38 years old) > Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts > college in Iowa. > > 1969: (39 years old) > Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and > liquidated its assets to his partners. > > 1971: (41 years old) > At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna > Beach. > > 1974: (44 years old) > Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio > began > to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. > Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into > Warren > GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the > investigation. > > 1977: (47 years old) > Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. > Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing > paper. > Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This > caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. > > 1983: (53 years old) > Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the > first > time. > > 1988: (58 years old) > Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up > to > 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of > Berkshire's most lucrative investments. > > 1989: (59 years old) > Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth > rose > with it to $3.8 billion. > > 1997: (67 years old) > Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at > about $6 per ounce. > > 2002: (72 years old) > Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US > dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these > contracts was over $2 billion. > > 2003: (73 years old) > By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 > million dollars. > Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted > by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for > President in 2004.[14] > > 2004: (74 years old) > Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola > Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of > interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy > buyers > of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor > Pepsi? " > > 2005: (75 years old) > The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar > strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance > divisions. > > 2006: (76 years old) > > Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re > Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American > International Group. > Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has > ever made outside of the United States. > Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about > $37 > billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of > stock starting in July 2006. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK > " jorge.--angelino%--40netvisao.--pt " jorge.--angelino@---netvisao.---pt> > <HYPERLINK " %--40.--com " HYPERLINK > " %-40--s.com " @----s.com> > Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the > > possibility > > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > > > " HYPERLINK " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " HYPERLINK " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia---.org/wiki/\ ---Warren_-Buffet " HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK > > > " HYPERLINK " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " HYPERLINK " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia---.org/wiki/\ ---Warren_-Buffet > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " %--40.--com " HYPERLINK > > " %-40--s.com " @----s.com > > [HYPERLINK " %--40.--com " HYPERLINK > > " %-40--s.com " @----s.com] On > > Behalf > > Of Vyas Munidas > > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 > > HYPERLINK " %--40.--com " HYPERLINK > > " %-40--s.com " @----s.com > > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > > > > > Dearest Jorge (and list), > > > > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows > > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 > > > > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 Budapest, > > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 > > > > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please take > > a > > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: > 28.07.2006 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: > 31.07.2006 > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 Dear Jorge, Enclosed is message #4640 on on 2 August by Professor Choudhry containing the information you request. Best regards, C , <siha wrote: Hello Vyas, Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. Best wishes, - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM Re: Warren Buffett > Dear Professor, > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the world > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > My dear Vyas, > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > Leo > Virgo > Libra > Pisces > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. > > What do you think? > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the > chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. > > If this helps the discussion... > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many > years > ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed > with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him > better, contact-wise. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > On Behalf > Of Arun Rao > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > Thank you for your efforts. > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general > overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, > it > becomes guesswork. > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously > we > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. > > But deeper examination is needed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK > " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino wrote: > Dear Vyas, > > Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous > message. > > Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in > a > successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no > trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list > members > have a better luck. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > HYPERLINK > " %40 " > [HYPERLINK > " %40 " ] On Behalf Of > Vyas Munidas > terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 > HYPERLINK " %40 " > Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > Dear Jorge, > > Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this > chart. > He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a > timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes > that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other > esteemed > members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. > > Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST > > 1944: (14 years old) > invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland > > 1945: (15 years old) > first job > > 1947: (17 years old) > freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. > > 1950: (20 years old) > Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at > Columbia. > > 1952: (22 years old) > Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female > > 1954: (24 years old) > New job with Graham > Second child, male > > 1956: (26 years old) > Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett > family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett > Associates, > Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a > total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of > the year, > > 1957: (27 years old) > Third child, Peter, > Purchased a five-bedroom house > > 1960: (30 years old) > Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who > will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, > 11 > doctors agreed to invest. > > 1961: (31 years old) > With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million > investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. > > 1965: (35 years old) > Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) > > 1968: (38 years old) > Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts > college in Iowa. > > 1969: (39 years old) > Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and > liquidated its assets to his partners. > > 1971: (41 years old) > At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna > Beach. > > 1974: (44 years old) > Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio > began > to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. > Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into > Warren > GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the > investigation. > > 1977: (47 years old) > Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. > Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing > paper. > Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This > caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. > > 1983: (53 years old) > Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the > first > time. > > 1988: (58 years old) > Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up > to > 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of > Berkshire's most lucrative investments. > > 1989: (59 years old) > Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth > rose > with it to $3.8 billion. > > 1997: (67 years old) > Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at > about $6 per ounce. > > 2002: (72 years old) > Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US > dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these > contracts was over $2 billion. > > 2003: (73 years old) > By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 > million dollars. > Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted > by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for > President in 2004.[14] > > 2004: (74 years old) > Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola > Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of > interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy > buyers > of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor > Pepsi? " > > 2005: (75 years old) > The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar > strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance > divisions. > > 2006: (76 years old) > > Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re > Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American > International Group. > Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has > ever made outside of the United States. > Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about > $37 > billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of > stock starting in July 2006. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK > " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino > <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " > Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the > > possibility > > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia- ..org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-- ..org/wiki/--Warren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia- ..org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-- ..org/wiki/--Warren_Buffet > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " > > [HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " ] On > > Behalf > > Of Vyas Munidas > > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " > > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > > > > > Dearest Jorge (and list), > > > > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows > > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 > > > > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 Budapest, > > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 > > > > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please take > > a > > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: > 28.07.2006 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: > 31.07.2006 > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 Hello list, Please disregard the forwarded message, I see has revised his view on the MEP for the individual in question. Best regards, C SAMVA , " cosmologer " <cosmologer wrote: > > Dear Jorge, > > Enclosed is message #4640 on on 2 August by Professor > Choudhry containing the information you request. > > Best regards, > > C > > , <siha@> wrote: > > > Hello Vyas, > > Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. > > Best wishes, > > > > > - > " Vyas Munidas " <munidas@> > > Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > > Dear Professor, > > > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in > the world > > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > > > - > > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9@> > > > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > > Re: Warren Buffett > > > > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > > > Leo > > Virgo > > Libra > > Pisces > > > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. > > > > What do you think? > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Arun > > > > Vyas Munidas <munidas@> wrote: > > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > > > You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to > understand the > > chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in > the world. > > > > If this helps the discussion... > > > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite > great > > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought > many > > years > > ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always > succeed > > with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices > positioned him > > better, contact-wise. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino@> > > > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren > Buffet > > > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > On Behalf > > Of Arun Rao > > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > > > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren > Buffet > > > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > > > Thank you for your efforts. > > > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a > general > > overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is > no > > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware > of. > > > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications > off of, > > it > > becomes guesswork. > > > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but > obviously > > we > > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the > placements > > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable > ascendant. > > > > But deeper examination is needed. > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Arun > > > > Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK > > " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@> wrote: > > Dear Vyas, > > > > Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my > previous > > message. > > > > Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can > dive in > > a > > successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no > > trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested > list > > members > > have a better luck. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Jorge > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > " %40 " @ > > [HYPERLINK > > " %40 " @] On Behalf Of > > Vyas Munidas > > terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 > > HYPERLINK " %40 " @ > > Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren > Buffet > > > > Dear Jorge, > > > > Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about > this > > chart. > > He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've > included a > > timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life > in hopes > > that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other > > esteemed > > members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. > > > > Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST > > > > 1944: (14 years old) > > invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland > > > > 1945: (15 years old) > > first job > > > > 1947: (17 years old) > > freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. > > > > 1950: (20 years old) > > Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at > > Columbia. > > > > 1952: (22 years old) > > Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, > female > > > > 1954: (24 years old) > > New job with Graham > > Second child, male > > > > 1956: (26 years old) > > Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The > Buffett > > family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett > > Associates, > > Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends > put in a > > total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the > course of > > the year, > > > > 1957: (27 years old) > > Third child, Peter, > > Purchased a five-bedroom house > > > > 1960: (30 years old) > > Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other > doctors who > > will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. > Eventually, > > 11 > > doctors agreed to invest. > > > > 1961: (31 years old) > > With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 > million > > investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. > > > > 1965: (35 years old) > > Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) > > > > 1968: (38 years old) > > Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious > liberal arts > > college in Iowa. > > > > 1969: (39 years old) > > Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership > and > > liquidated its assets to his partners. > > > > 1971: (41 years old) > > At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at > Laguna > > Beach. > > > > 1974: (44 years old) > > Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock > portfolio > > began > > to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The > U.S. > > Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation > into > > Warren > > GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the > > investigation. > > > > 1977: (47 years old) > > Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 > million. > > Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a > competing > > paper. > > Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. > This > > caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. > > > > 1983: (53 years old) > > Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for > the > > first > > time. > > > > 1988: (58 years old) > > Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually > purchasing up > > to > > 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to > be one of > > Berkshire's most lucrative investments. > > > > 1989: (59 years old) > > Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net > worth > > rose > > with it to $3.8 billion. > > > > 1997: (67 years old) > > Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an > investment at > > about $6 per ounce. > > > > 2002: (72 years old) > > Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to > deliver US > > dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on > these > > contracts was over $2 billion. > > > > 2003: (73 years old) > > By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over > $600 > > million dollars. > > Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, > conducted > > by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party > nominee for > > President in 2004.[14] > > > > 2004: (74 years old) > > Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of > Coca-Cola > > Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict > of > > interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, > heavy > > buyers > > of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to > favor > > Pepsi? " > > > > 2005: (75 years old) > > The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US > dollar > > strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's > reinsurance > > divisions. > > > > 2006: (76 years old) > > > > Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their > General Re > > Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with > American > > International Group. > > Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase > he has > > ever made outside of the United States. > > Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or > about > > $37 > > billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual > gifts of > > stock starting in July 2006. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK > > " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@> > > <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " @> > > Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren > Buffet > > > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > > > > > > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > > > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the > > > possibility > > > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > > > > > > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > > > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > > > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia- > .org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/- Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-- > .org/wiki/--Warren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " HYPERLINK > > > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia- > .org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/- Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-- > .org/wiki/--Warren_Buffet > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > > " %40-s.com " @ > > > [HYPERLINK " %-40.- com " HYPERLINK > > > " %40-s.com " @] On > > > Behalf > > > Of Vyas Munidas > > > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 > > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > > " %40-s.com " @ > > > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > > > > > > > > > Dearest Jorge (and list), > > > > > > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search > shows > > > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 > > > > > > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 > Budapest, > > > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 > > > > > > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you > please take > > > a > > > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these > men? > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: > > 28.07.2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: > > 31.07.2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 Dear Jorge, Thankyou for checking out the information. I wish I could find the exact date, but I don't think it was reported in the press at the time, just his friends know about it. It certainly does seem to fit the Cancer chart well. That summer, the Aquarius chart was in a negative period as well-Sun Mer, with Jupiter and Saturn in the 8th, and Rahu/Ketu in 6/12. The Leo chart was in Venus-Sat-Ketu. That was a eventful summer, the air traffic controllers strike happened on Aug 3rd, and the USA chart was in Mer Jup Mars, with Mars in the 8th afflicting natal Jupiter and natal Ketu afflicting transit Jupiter and Saturn, and Mercury very closely afflicted by Rahu. I love how SA indicates events and ties it in with the dasas and subperiods. When I was studying traditional vedic astrology, the dasas often didn't seem to fit. I am really enjoying the discussion on Warren Buffett, and I am learning alot. I hope we can discuss other celebrity charts in the future, it's so interesting. Thanks again- Sheri Powers Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino wrote: Dear Sheri, Thanks for sharing this new event. For a random sample, I noticed this not only stationary Rahu/Ketu axis is afflicting his L1, but also the possibility exists of its MEP3 being exactly afflicted simultaneously by transit Jupiter and transit Saturn, as they are slow planets. Both will come under the aspect of natal Saturn from house 6. Transit Saturn could have been afflicting MEP5, and L1 consequently. And the operational dasha of the rectified chart was Ve/Ju/Mo. Natal Jupiter, L6, is placed in H12 (accidents related with drowning). Transit Jupiter is simultaneously under the affliction of transit Saturn and natal Saturn. Again, it was an intelligent friend (strong natal Mercury, L3) who must have saved the native. Best wishes, Jorge On Behalf Of Sheri Powers domingo, 6 de Agosto de 2006 01:38 Re: Warren Buffett Dear Vyas- I do have another event. In 1981, Warren Buffett nearly drown. He was on a boat with friends piloted by Mr.Munger, and due to Mr. Munger's carelessness, the boat capsized, trapping Warren under the boat. He was pulled out by a friend and narrowly escaped drowning. There was no date for this, but since it was on a lake in Minnesota, and Minnesota is very cold most of the year, I'm guessing it was probably in the summer. In the summer of 1981, I noticed that Rahu/Ketu axis was stationary in Cancer/Capricorn at around 7 degrees, which closely aspected his natal moon, depending on which ascendant you are using for Mr. Buffett. Maybe someone knows the date this incident occurred? The book was vague. Thanks--Sheri Powers Vyas Munidas <HYPERLINK " munidas%40rogers.com " munidas (AT) rogers (DOT) -com> wrote: Dear Sheri, Much thanks. Keep it coming, I appreciate your efforts on this. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Sheri Powers " <HYPERLINK " mermaidslace%40 " mermaidslace@-> <HYPERLINK " %40 " Saturday, August 05, 2006 2:30 AM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Vyas, Here is more information I got from searching the web. Buffett's wife Susan died on either July 29 or July 30, 2004 from a stroke, I believe in San Francisco. Mother Leila died in 1996 (no date) at the age of 92, probably in Omaha. Children's birthdates-(-I think in Omaha)Susan Alice Buffett-born July 30, 1953, Howard Graham Buffett-born Dec 16, 1954,(actually, I read Howard was born shortly after they moved to New York-they lived there two years) Peter Andrew Buffett-born May 4, 1958. Hope this helps- Sheri Sheri Powers <HYPERLINK " mermaidslace%40 " mermaidslace@-> wrote: Dear Vyas, Here is more information on Buffett. Unfortunately, the book is somewhat vague on some of the dates. His first child, Susie was born around 1952, 2nd child Howard around 1954, and 3rd child, Peter around 1956. The SEC investigation about Westco and Blue Chip- " first hint of trouble " was in the fall of 1974. Buffett's partner, Munger appeared before the SEC in March, 1975, the case dragged on through 1975, In December 1975, Buffett's lawyer pleaded for an end to the case, some time in 1976 the SEC settled, Blue Chip (Buffett and Munger's com.) had to pay 115,000 but no action against Buffett.(Buffett was always calm and did very well in testifying, and didn't appear upset about investigation, and he was appointed to a panel by SEC shortly after the invest. concluded.) In 1973, Buffett began buying stock in the Washington Post. He became friends with Katherine Graham, the publisher/owner, became a director (with 10 % of the stock) on the board in the fall of 1974,(coming onto the social scene of Washington around this time) and stayed 11 years, greatly increasing profitability of the paper. In Nov 1976, Buffett(25%) and Soloman Brothers underwrote GEICO Insurance for 76 million, saving the company, and since the stock was really cheap, later making a huge profit. Buffett's wife Susie, left in late 1977 early 1978 (sorry the book was vague about the dates) and moved to San Francisco. Buffett was depressed about a year. Susie encouraged other women to visit Buffett, and within a year of her leaving, Astrid Menks and Warren began dating and she moved in with him. Buffett and his wife traveled together, and Susie was friendly with Astrid. Buffett recovered and was happy. No mention of divorce yet in the book, maybe they never divorced. I will write more later--Sheri Powers Vyas Munidas <HYPERLINK " munidas%40rogers.com " munidas (AT) rogers (DOT) -com> wrote: Dear Sheri, Thank you. I look forward to your posts on this. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Sheri Powers " <HYPERLINK " mermaidslace%40 " mermaidslace@-> <HYPERLINK " %40 " Friday, August 04, 2006 6:49 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Vyas, Glad to help if I can. I am at work, so it will take a while. Also, the book doesn't always list exact dates. The date for the father's passing is as Arun said, 4/30/1964. I believe went by the 1966 date in the list provided in examining the father's death. Some significant dates I found so far- Father's bank closed and he last job and all savings- Aug 13, 1931 in Omaha, Nebraska. Family fortunes improved gradually and they moved into a bigger home when Warren was 6. Older sister born in 1928-no date. Younger sister is 3 years younger than Warren, no date. Married- 3rd Saturday in April, 1952- Omaha, Nebraska. Gained control of Berkshire/Hathaway at a board meeting-May 10, 1965, Bedford Massachusetts, becoming chairman of the executive comittee and installing Ken Chace as president. I'll have more later- Sheri Powers Vyas Munidas <HYPERLINK " munidas%40rogers.com " munidas (AT) rogers (DOT) -com> wrote: Dear Sheri, Please if you have the time, from the book provide us with dates of: 1) Birth of his three children 2) Death of father and mother 3) Separation from wife 4) Scandals involving the SEC and other bodies into his activities 5) Anything else that is significant (broken limbs, accidents, etc) Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Sheri Powers " <HYPERLINK " mermaidslace%40 " mermaidslace@-> <HYPERLINK " %40 " Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:33 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear List, Vyas got me interested in Warren Buffett, and I checked out the book " Buffet, The Making of an American Capitalist " by Roger Lowenstein, at the library. The book has a lot of good personal information, though no birth time. On Aug 13, 1931, Warren's father's bank where he worked closed, and he lost his job and all savings. Also, Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. (perhaps debillitated moon in 4th-Oprah Winfrey, according to internet sources, is Leo with moon in fourth and had problems with mother). On Aug 13, 1931, the most afflicted ascendants for father were Leo, Sagittarius, and Aquarius. On Warren's date of birth, the ascendants with the most strong benefics were -Leo-5, Libra-4, Sagittarius--5, Aquarius-4, Aries-4, and Gemini-5. (This is keeping the MEP away from nodes). Leo, however, had the most combinations for wealth (benefics in or aspecting 2, 5, 11, and 9. Warren and family suffered poverty in his early years due to the depression, and this provided strong motivation to Warren- by the age of 5 he was stating he would grow up and be very rich. With the Leo ascendant,(dependin-g on degree) Warren was born in Ketu subperiod, followed by weak Venus subperiod. If he is Leo, since the chart is so strong, the early weak sub periods provided strong motivation rather than hampering him in life. I was randomly checking a 6:40 birthtime which gave around 22 degrees Leo, but will check out 's suggestion of around 13 degrees rising. I will finish reading the book and check out the events against the other likely ascendants-I was strongly favoring a Leo ascendant, and glad to hear that the Professor and Arun see the same thing. But I will check out the other ascendant to make sure I am objective. I also saw strong possibility with Sagittarius and Aquarius. I really enjoy the list discussion-Sincerel-y, Sheri Powers Arun Rao <HYPERLINK " arunrao9%40 " arunrao9 (AT) (DOT) -com> wrote: Dear Vyas, The nature of the prime determinant of profession should also be looked at. In the case of Leo, Mercury is the trader of the zodiac. Coupled with strong 5th/11th houses, a career in speculative activities seems to be a stronger possibility. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <HYPERLINK " munidas%40rogers.com " munidas (AT) rogers (DOT) -com> wrote: Dear Arun, As you've pointed out Saturnian influence can give this frugality. How about an Aq asc? Certainly it would show strong Sun/Leo traits with Su L7 Aq if the MEP is as suspected. It shows show fantastic affluence through investments as well. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <HYPERLINK " arunrao9%40 " arunrao9 (AT) (DOT) -com> <HYPERLINK " %40 " Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:38 AM Re: Warren Buffett My dear Esteemed Professor and Vyas, Leo ascendant folk (myself included) have a unique look, especially when the Sun influences the ascendant or 2nd house (face) closely. One can expect a wider face with strong bone structure therein. The nose may be prominent and somewhat wide. Mr. Buffett also has a strong forehead, which is consistent with other Leo's. Hence my initial assessment was Leo. Being one, I know one when I see one Best Wishes, Arun HYPERLINK " siha%40yournetastrologer.com " siha wrote: Hello Vyas, Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. Best wishes, - " Vyas Munidas " <HYPERLINK " munidas%40rogers.com " munidas (AT) rogers (DOT) -com> <HYPERLINK " %40 " Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM Re: Warren Buffett > Dear Professor, > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the world > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > " Arun Rao " <HYPERLINK " arunrao9%40 " arunrao9 (AT) (DOT) -com> > <HYPERLINK " %40 " > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > My dear Vyas, > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > Leo > Virgo > Libra > Pisces > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. > > What do you think? > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Vyas Munidas <HYPERLINK " munidas%40rogers.com " munidas (AT) rogers (DOT) -com> wrote: > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the > chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. > > If this helps the discussion..-. > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many > years > ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed > with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him > better, contact-wise. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> > <HYPERLINK " %40 " > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > HYPERLINK " %40 " [HYPERLINK " %40 " ] On Behalf > Of Arun Rao > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > HYPERLINK " %40 " > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > Thank you for your efforts. > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general > overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, > it > becomes guesswork. > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously > we > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. > > But deeper examination is needed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK > " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> wrote: > Dear Vyas, > > Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous > message. > > Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in > a > successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no > trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list > members > have a better luck. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > HYPERLINK > " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > [HYPERLINK > " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On Behalf Of > Vyas Munidas > terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > Dear Jorge, > > Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this > chart. > He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a > timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes > that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other > esteemed > members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. > > Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST > > 1944: (14 years old) > invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland > > 1945: (15 years old) > first job > > 1947: (17 years old) > freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. > > 1950: (20 years old) > Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at > Columbia. > > 1952: (22 years old) > Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female > > 1954: (24 years old) > New job with Graham > Second child, male > > 1956: (26 years old) > Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett > family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett > Associates, > Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a > total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of > the year, > > 1957: (27 years old) > Third child, Peter, > Purchased a five-bedroom house > > 1960: (30 years old) > Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who > will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, > 11 > doctors agreed to invest. > > 1961: (31 years old) > With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million > investment in a windmill-manufactur---ing company. > > 1965: (35 years old) > Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) > > 1968: (38 years old) > Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts > college in Iowa. > > 1969: (39 years old) > Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and > liquidated its assets to his partners. > > 1971: (41 years old) > At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna > Beach. > > 1974: (44 years old) > Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio > began > to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. > Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into > Warren > GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the > investigation. > > 1977: (47 years old) > Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. > Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing > paper. > Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This > caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. > > 1983: (53 years old) > Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the > first > time. > > 1988: (58 years old) > Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up > to > 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of > Berkshire's most lucrative investments. > > 1989: (59 years old) > Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth > rose > with it to $3.8 billion. > > 1997: (67 years old) > Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at > about $6 per ounce. > > 2002: (72 years old) > Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US > dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these > contracts was over $2 billion. > > 2003: (73 years old) > By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 > million dollars. > Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted > by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for > President in 2004.[14] > > 2004: (74 years old) > Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola > Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of > interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy > buyers > of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor > Pepsi? " > > 2005: (75 years old) > The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar > strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance > divisions. > > 2006: (76 years old) > > Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re > Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American > International Group. > Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has > ever made outside of the United States. > Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about > $37 > billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of > stock starting in July 2006. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK > " jorge.--angelino%--40netvisao.--pt " jorge.--angelino@---netvisao.---pt> > <HYPERLINK " %--40.--com " HYPERLINK > " %-40--s.com " @----s.com> > Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the > > possibility > > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > > > " HYPERLINK " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " HYPERLINK " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia---.org/wiki/\ ---Warren_-Buffet " HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK > > > " HYPERLINK " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " HYPERLINK " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia---.org/wiki/\ ---Warren_-Buffet > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " %--40.--com " HYPERLINK > > " %-40--s.com " @----s.com > > [HYPERLINK " %--40.--com " HYPERLINK > > " %-40--s.com " @----s.com] On > > Behalf > > Of Vyas Munidas > > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 > > HYPERLINK " %--40.--com " HYPERLINK > > " %-40--s.com " @----s.com > > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > > > > > Dearest Jorge (and list), > > > > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows > > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 > > > > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 Budapest, > > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 > > > > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please take > > a > > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: > 28.07.2006 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: > 31.07.2006 > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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