Guest guest Report post Posted August 2, 2006 Dear Jorge and Arun, You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. If this helps the discussion... A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many years ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him better, contact-wise. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet My dear Mr. Arun, I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. Best wishes, Jorge On Behalf Of Arun Rao quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet My dear Mr. Angelino, Thank you for your efforts. Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, it becomes guesswork. Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously we cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. But deeper examination is needed. Best Wishes, Arun Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: Dear Vyas, Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous message. Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in a successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list members have a better luck. Best wishes, Jorge HYPERLINK " %40 " [HYPERLINK " %40 " ] On Behalf Of Vyas Munidas terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 HYPERLINK " %40 " Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet Dear Jorge, Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this chart. He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other esteemed members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST 1944: (14 years old) invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland 1945: (15 years old) first job 1947: (17 years old) freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. 1950: (20 years old) Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at Columbia. 1952: (22 years old) Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female 1954: (24 years old) New job with Graham Second child, male 1956: (26 years old) Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett Associates, Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of the year, 1957: (27 years old) Third child, Peter, Purchased a five-bedroom house 1960: (30 years old) Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, 11 doctors agreed to invest. 1961: (31 years old) With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. 1965: (35 years old) Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) 1968: (38 years old) Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts college in Iowa. 1969: (39 years old) Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and liquidated its assets to his partners. 1971: (41 years old) At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna Beach. 1974: (44 years old) Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio began to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into Warren GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the investigation. 1977: (47 years old) Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing paper. Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. 1983: (53 years old) Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the first time. 1988: (58 years old) Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up to 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of Berkshire's most lucrative investments. 1989: (59 years old) Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth rose with it to $3.8 billion. 1997: (67 years old) Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at about $6 per ounce. 2002: (72 years old) Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these contracts was over $2 billion. 2003: (73 years old) By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 million dollars. Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for President in 2004.[14] 2004: (74 years old) Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy buyers of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor Pepsi? " 2005: (75 years old) The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance divisions. 2006: (76 years old) Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American International Group. Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has ever made outside of the United States. Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about $37 billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of stock starting in July 2006. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > My dear Vyas, > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the possibility > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > " HYPERLINK > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Jorge > > > > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > [HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On Behalf > Of Vyas Munidas > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > Dearest Jorge (and list), > > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 > > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 Budapest, > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 > > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please take a > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > -- > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release 28.07.2006 > > > > -- > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release 31.07.2006 > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 3, 2006 My dear Vyas, Yes it would be nice to have his chart. In my view, the potential ascendants are: Leo Virgo Libra Pisces Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. What do you think? Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Jorge and Arun, You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. If this helps the discussion... A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many years ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him better, contact-wise. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet My dear Mr. Arun, I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. Best wishes, Jorge On Behalf Of Arun Rao quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet My dear Mr. Angelino, Thank you for your efforts. Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, it becomes guesswork. Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously we cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. But deeper examination is needed. Best Wishes, Arun Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: Dear Vyas, Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous message. Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in a successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list members have a better luck. Best wishes, Jorge HYPERLINK " %40 " [HYPERLINK " %40 " ] On Behalf Of Vyas Munidas terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 HYPERLINK " %40 " Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet Dear Jorge, Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this chart. He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other esteemed members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST 1944: (14 years old) invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland 1945: (15 years old) first job 1947: (17 years old) freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. 1950: (20 years old) Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at Columbia. 1952: (22 years old) Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female 1954: (24 years old) New job with Graham Second child, male 1956: (26 years old) Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett Associates, Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of the year, 1957: (27 years old) Third child, Peter, Purchased a five-bedroom house 1960: (30 years old) Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, 11 doctors agreed to invest. 1961: (31 years old) With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. 1965: (35 years old) Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) 1968: (38 years old) Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts college in Iowa. 1969: (39 years old) Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and liquidated its assets to his partners. 1971: (41 years old) At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna Beach. 1974: (44 years old) Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio began to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into Warren GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the investigation. 1977: (47 years old) Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing paper. Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. 1983: (53 years old) Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the first time. 1988: (58 years old) Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up to 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of Berkshire's most lucrative investments. 1989: (59 years old) Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth rose with it to $3.8 billion. 1997: (67 years old) Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at about $6 per ounce. 2002: (72 years old) Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these contracts was over $2 billion. 2003: (73 years old) By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 million dollars. Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for President in 2004.[14] 2004: (74 years old) Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy buyers of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor Pepsi? " 2005: (75 years old) The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance divisions. 2006: (76 years old) Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American International Group. Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has ever made outside of the United States. Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about $37 billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of stock starting in July 2006. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > My dear Vyas, > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the possibility > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > " HYPERLINK > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Jorge > > > > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > [HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On Behalf > Of Vyas Munidas > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > Dearest Jorge (and list), > > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 > > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 Budapest, > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 > > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please take a > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > -- > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release 28.07.2006 > > > > -- > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release 31.07.2006 > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 3, 2006 Dear Arun, Yes, that's a good short list. Buffett had a fear of public speaking which he got over. So there is slight weakness to the 2 (or 3H as we've discussed prior). Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM Re: Warren Buffett My dear Vyas, Yes it would be nice to have his chart. In my view, the potential ascendants are: Leo Virgo Libra Pisces Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. What do you think? Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Jorge and Arun, You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. If this helps the discussion... A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many years ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him better, contact-wise. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet My dear Mr. Arun, I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. Best wishes, Jorge On Behalf Of Arun Rao quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet My dear Mr. Angelino, Thank you for your efforts. Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, it becomes guesswork. Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously we cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. But deeper examination is needed. Best Wishes, Arun Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: Dear Vyas, Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous message. Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in a successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list members have a better luck. Best wishes, Jorge HYPERLINK " %40 " [HYPERLINK " %40 " ] On Behalf Of Vyas Munidas terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 HYPERLINK " %40 " Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet Dear Jorge, Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this chart. He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other esteemed members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST 1944: (14 years old) invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland 1945: (15 years old) first job 1947: (17 years old) freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. 1950: (20 years old) Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at Columbia. 1952: (22 years old) Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female 1954: (24 years old) New job with Graham Second child, male 1956: (26 years old) Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett Associates, Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of the year, 1957: (27 years old) Third child, Peter, Purchased a five-bedroom house 1960: (30 years old) Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, 11 doctors agreed to invest. 1961: (31 years old) With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. 1965: (35 years old) Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) 1968: (38 years old) Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts college in Iowa. 1969: (39 years old) Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and liquidated its assets to his partners. 1971: (41 years old) At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna Beach. 1974: (44 years old) Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio began to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into Warren GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the investigation. 1977: (47 years old) Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing paper. Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. 1983: (53 years old) Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the first time. 1988: (58 years old) Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up to 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of Berkshire's most lucrative investments. 1989: (59 years old) Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth rose with it to $3.8 billion. 1997: (67 years old) Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at about $6 per ounce. 2002: (72 years old) Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these contracts was over $2 billion. 2003: (73 years old) By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 million dollars. Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for President in 2004.[14] 2004: (74 years old) Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy buyers of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor Pepsi? " 2005: (75 years old) The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance divisions. 2006: (76 years old) Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American International Group. Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has ever made outside of the United States. Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about $37 billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of stock starting in July 2006. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > My dear Vyas, > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the possibility > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > " HYPERLINK > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Jorge > > > > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > [HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On Behalf > Of Vyas Munidas > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > Dearest Jorge (and list), > > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 > > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 Budapest, > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 > > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please take a > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > -- > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: 28.07.2006 > > > > -- > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: 31.07.2006 > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 3, 2006 Dear Professor, What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the world who lives like a miser comparatively? Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM Re: Warren Buffett My dear Vyas, Yes it would be nice to have his chart. In my view, the potential ascendants are: Leo Virgo Libra Pisces Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. What do you think? Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Jorge and Arun, You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. If this helps the discussion... A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many years ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him better, contact-wise. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet My dear Mr. Arun, I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. Best wishes, Jorge On Behalf Of Arun Rao quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet My dear Mr. Angelino, Thank you for your efforts. Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, it becomes guesswork. Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously we cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. But deeper examination is needed. Best Wishes, Arun Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: Dear Vyas, Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous message. Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in a successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list members have a better luck. Best wishes, Jorge HYPERLINK " %40 " [HYPERLINK " %40 " ] On Behalf Of Vyas Munidas terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 HYPERLINK " %40 " Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet Dear Jorge, Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this chart. He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other esteemed members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST 1944: (14 years old) invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland 1945: (15 years old) first job 1947: (17 years old) freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. 1950: (20 years old) Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at Columbia. 1952: (22 years old) Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female 1954: (24 years old) New job with Graham Second child, male 1956: (26 years old) Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett Associates, Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of the year, 1957: (27 years old) Third child, Peter, Purchased a five-bedroom house 1960: (30 years old) Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, 11 doctors agreed to invest. 1961: (31 years old) With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. 1965: (35 years old) Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) 1968: (38 years old) Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts college in Iowa. 1969: (39 years old) Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and liquidated its assets to his partners. 1971: (41 years old) At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna Beach. 1974: (44 years old) Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio began to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into Warren GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the investigation. 1977: (47 years old) Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing paper. Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. 1983: (53 years old) Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the first time. 1988: (58 years old) Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up to 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of Berkshire's most lucrative investments. 1989: (59 years old) Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth rose with it to $3.8 billion. 1997: (67 years old) Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at about $6 per ounce. 2002: (72 years old) Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these contracts was over $2 billion. 2003: (73 years old) By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 million dollars. Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for President in 2004.[14] 2004: (74 years old) Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy buyers of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor Pepsi? " 2005: (75 years old) The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance divisions. 2006: (76 years old) Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American International Group. Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has ever made outside of the United States. Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about $37 billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of stock starting in July 2006. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > My dear Vyas, > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the possibility > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > " HYPERLINK > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Jorge > > > > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > [HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On Behalf > Of Vyas Munidas > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > Dearest Jorge (and list), > > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 > > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 Budapest, > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 > > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please take a > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > -- > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: 28.07.2006 > > > > -- > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: 31.07.2006 > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 3, 2006 Dear Vyas, In general, frugality is a signification of Saturn. So, look for some type of strong Saturnian influence... Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Professor, What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the world who lives like a miser comparatively? Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM Re: Warren Buffett My dear Vyas, Yes it would be nice to have his chart. In my view, the potential ascendants are: Leo Virgo Libra Pisces Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. What do you think? Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Jorge and Arun, You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. If this helps the discussion... A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many years ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him better, contact-wise. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet My dear Mr. Arun, I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. Best wishes, Jorge On Behalf Of Arun Rao quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet My dear Mr. Angelino, Thank you for your efforts. Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, it becomes guesswork. Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously we cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. But deeper examination is needed. Best Wishes, Arun Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: Dear Vyas, Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous message. Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in a successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list members have a better luck. Best wishes, Jorge HYPERLINK " %40 " [HYPERLINK " %40 " ] On Behalf Of Vyas Munidas terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 HYPERLINK " %40 " Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet Dear Jorge, Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this chart. He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other esteemed members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST 1944: (14 years old) invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland 1945: (15 years old) first job 1947: (17 years old) freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. 1950: (20 years old) Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at Columbia. 1952: (22 years old) Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female 1954: (24 years old) New job with Graham Second child, male 1956: (26 years old) Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett Associates, Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of the year, 1957: (27 years old) Third child, Peter, Purchased a five-bedroom house 1960: (30 years old) Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, 11 doctors agreed to invest. 1961: (31 years old) With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. 1965: (35 years old) Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) 1968: (38 years old) Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts college in Iowa. 1969: (39 years old) Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and liquidated its assets to his partners. 1971: (41 years old) At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna Beach. 1974: (44 years old) Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio began to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into Warren GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the investigation. 1977: (47 years old) Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing paper. Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. 1983: (53 years old) Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the first time. 1988: (58 years old) Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up to 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of Berkshire's most lucrative investments. 1989: (59 years old) Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth rose with it to $3.8 billion. 1997: (67 years old) Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at about $6 per ounce. 2002: (72 years old) Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these contracts was over $2 billion. 2003: (73 years old) By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 million dollars. Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for President in 2004.[14] 2004: (74 years old) Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy buyers of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor Pepsi? " 2005: (75 years old) The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance divisions. 2006: (76 years old) Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American International Group. Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has ever made outside of the United States. Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about $37 billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of stock starting in July 2006. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > My dear Vyas, > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the possibility > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > " HYPERLINK > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Jorge > > > > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > [HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On Behalf > Of Vyas Munidas > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > Dearest Jorge (and list), > > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 > > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 Budapest, > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 > > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please take a > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > -- > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: 28.07.2006 > > > > -- > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: 31.07.2006 > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 3, 2006 Right, dear Vyas. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Arun, Yes, that's a good short list. Buffett had a fear of public speaking which he got over. So there is slight weakness to the 2 (or 3H as we've discussed prior). Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM Re: Warren Buffett My dear Vyas, Yes it would be nice to have his chart. In my view, the potential ascendants are: Leo Virgo Libra Pisces Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. What do you think? Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Jorge and Arun, You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. If this helps the discussion... A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many years ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him better, contact-wise. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet My dear Mr. Arun, I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. Best wishes, Jorge On Behalf Of Arun Rao quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet My dear Mr. Angelino, Thank you for your efforts. Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, it becomes guesswork. Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously we cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. But deeper examination is needed. Best Wishes, Arun Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: Dear Vyas, Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous message. Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in a successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list members have a better luck. Best wishes, Jorge HYPERLINK " %40 " [HYPERLINK " %40 " ] On Behalf Of Vyas Munidas terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 HYPERLINK " %40 " Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet Dear Jorge, Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this chart. He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other esteemed members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST 1944: (14 years old) invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland 1945: (15 years old) first job 1947: (17 years old) freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. 1950: (20 years old) Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at Columbia. 1952: (22 years old) Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female 1954: (24 years old) New job with Graham Second child, male 1956: (26 years old) Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett Associates, Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of the year, 1957: (27 years old) Third child, Peter, Purchased a five-bedroom house 1960: (30 years old) Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, 11 doctors agreed to invest. 1961: (31 years old) With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. 1965: (35 years old) Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) 1968: (38 years old) Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts college in Iowa. 1969: (39 years old) Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and liquidated its assets to his partners. 1971: (41 years old) At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna Beach. 1974: (44 years old) Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio began to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into Warren GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the investigation. 1977: (47 years old) Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing paper. Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. 1983: (53 years old) Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the first time. 1988: (58 years old) Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up to 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of Berkshire's most lucrative investments. 1989: (59 years old) Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth rose with it to $3.8 billion. 1997: (67 years old) Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at about $6 per ounce. 2002: (72 years old) Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these contracts was over $2 billion. 2003: (73 years old) By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 million dollars. Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for President in 2004.[14] 2004: (74 years old) Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy buyers of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor Pepsi? " 2005: (75 years old) The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance divisions. 2006: (76 years old) Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American International Group. Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has ever made outside of the United States. Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about $37 billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of stock starting in July 2006. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > My dear Vyas, > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the possibility > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > " HYPERLINK > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Jorge > > > > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > [HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On Behalf > Of Vyas Munidas > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > Dearest Jorge (and list), > > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 > > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 Budapest, > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 > > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please take a > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > -- > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: 28.07.2006 > > > > -- > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: 31.07.2006 > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 3, 2006 Hello Vyas, Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. Best wishes, - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM Re: Warren Buffett > Dear Professor, > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the world > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > My dear Vyas, > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > Leo > Virgo > Libra > Pisces > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. > > What do you think? > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the > chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. > > If this helps the discussion... > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many > years > ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed > with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him > better, contact-wise. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > On Behalf > Of Arun Rao > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > Thank you for your efforts. > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general > overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, > it > becomes guesswork. > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously > we > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. > > But deeper examination is needed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK > " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: > Dear Vyas, > > Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous > message. > > Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in > a > successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no > trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list > members > have a better luck. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > HYPERLINK > " %40 " > [HYPERLINK > " %40 " ] On Behalf Of > Vyas Munidas > terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 > HYPERLINK " %40 " > Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > Dear Jorge, > > Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this > chart. > He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a > timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes > that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other > esteemed > members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. > > Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST > > 1944: (14 years old) > invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland > > 1945: (15 years old) > first job > > 1947: (17 years old) > freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. > > 1950: (20 years old) > Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at > Columbia. > > 1952: (22 years old) > Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female > > 1954: (24 years old) > New job with Graham > Second child, male > > 1956: (26 years old) > Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett > family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett > Associates, > Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a > total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of > the year, > > 1957: (27 years old) > Third child, Peter, > Purchased a five-bedroom house > > 1960: (30 years old) > Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who > will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, > 11 > doctors agreed to invest. > > 1961: (31 years old) > With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million > investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. > > 1965: (35 years old) > Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) > > 1968: (38 years old) > Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts > college in Iowa. > > 1969: (39 years old) > Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and > liquidated its assets to his partners. > > 1971: (41 years old) > At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna > Beach. > > 1974: (44 years old) > Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio > began > to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. > Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into > Warren > GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the > investigation. > > 1977: (47 years old) > Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. > Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing > paper. > Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This > caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. > > 1983: (53 years old) > Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the > first > time. > > 1988: (58 years old) > Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up > to > 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of > Berkshire's most lucrative investments. > > 1989: (59 years old) > Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth > rose > with it to $3.8 billion. > > 1997: (67 years old) > Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at > about $6 per ounce. > > 2002: (72 years old) > Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US > dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these > contracts was over $2 billion. > > 2003: (73 years old) > By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 > million dollars. > Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted > by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for > President in 2004.[14] > > 2004: (74 years old) > Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola > Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of > interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy > buyers > of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor > Pepsi? " > > 2005: (75 years old) > The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar > strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance > divisions. > > 2006: (76 years old) > > Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re > Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American > International Group. > Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has > ever made outside of the United States. > Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about > $37 > billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of > stock starting in July 2006. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK > " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> > <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> > Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the > > possibility > > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > [HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On > > Behalf > > Of Vyas Munidas > > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > > > > > Dearest Jorge (and list), > > > > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows > > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 > > > > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 Budapest, > > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 > > > > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please take > > a > > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: > 28.07.2006 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: > 31.07.2006 > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 3, 2006 My dear Esteemed Professor and Vyas, Leo ascendant folk (myself included) have a unique look, especially when the Sun influences the ascendant or 2nd house (face) closely. One can expect a wider face with strong bone structure therein. The nose may be prominent and somewhat wide. Mr. Buffett also has a strong forehead, which is consistent with other Leo's. Hence my initial assessment was Leo. Being one, I know one when I see one Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello Vyas, Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. Best wishes, - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM Re: Warren Buffett > Dear Professor, > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the world > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > My dear Vyas, > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > Leo > Virgo > Libra > Pisces > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. > > What do you think? > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the > chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. > > If this helps the discussion... > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many > years > ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed > with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him > better, contact-wise. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > On Behalf > Of Arun Rao > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > Thank you for your efforts. > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general > overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, > it > becomes guesswork. > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously > we > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. > > But deeper examination is needed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK > " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: > Dear Vyas, > > Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous > message. > > Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in > a > successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no > trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list > members > have a better luck. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > HYPERLINK > " %40 " > [HYPERLINK > " %40 " ] On Behalf Of > Vyas Munidas > terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 > HYPERLINK " %40 " > Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > Dear Jorge, > > Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this > chart. > He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a > timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes > that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other > esteemed > members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. > > Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST > > 1944: (14 years old) > invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland > > 1945: (15 years old) > first job > > 1947: (17 years old) > freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. > > 1950: (20 years old) > Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at > Columbia. > > 1952: (22 years old) > Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female > > 1954: (24 years old) > New job with Graham > Second child, male > > 1956: (26 years old) > Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett > family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett > Associates, > Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a > total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of > the year, > > 1957: (27 years old) > Third child, Peter, > Purchased a five-bedroom house > > 1960: (30 years old) > Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who > will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, > 11 > doctors agreed to invest. > > 1961: (31 years old) > With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million > investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. > > 1965: (35 years old) > Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) > > 1968: (38 years old) > Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts > college in Iowa. > > 1969: (39 years old) > Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and > liquidated its assets to his partners. > > 1971: (41 years old) > At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna > Beach. > > 1974: (44 years old) > Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio > began > to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. > Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into > Warren > GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the > investigation. > > 1977: (47 years old) > Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. > Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing > paper. > Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This > caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. > > 1983: (53 years old) > Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the > first > time. > > 1988: (58 years old) > Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up > to > 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of > Berkshire's most lucrative investments. > > 1989: (59 years old) > Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth > rose > with it to $3.8 billion. > > 1997: (67 years old) > Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at > about $6 per ounce. > > 2002: (72 years old) > Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US > dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these > contracts was over $2 billion. > > 2003: (73 years old) > By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 > million dollars. > Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted > by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for > President in 2004.[14] > > 2004: (74 years old) > Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola > Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of > interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy > buyers > of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor > Pepsi? " > > 2005: (75 years old) > The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar > strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance > divisions. > > 2006: (76 years old) > > Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re > Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American > International Group. > Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has > ever made outside of the United States. > Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about > $37 > billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of > stock starting in July 2006. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK > " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> > <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> > Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the > > possibility > > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > [HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On > > Behalf > > Of Vyas Munidas > > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > > > > > Dearest Jorge (and list), > > > > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows > > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 > > > > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 Budapest, > > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 > > > > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please take > > a > > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: > 28.07.2006 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: > 31.07.2006 > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 3, 2006 Thank you dear Professor, The Leo ascendant can certainly show the wealth status, especially through investments. This asc would make him live like a king though; he's very frugal on 100k/yr in the same 5 bedroom stucko home he bought decades ago. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - <siha Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:20 AM Re: Warren Buffett > > Hello Vyas, > > Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. > > Best wishes, > > > > > - > " Vyas Munidas " <muni> > > Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM > Re: Warren Buffett > > >> Dear Professor, >> >> What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the >> world >> who lives like a miser comparatively? >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Vyas Munidas >> >> >> >> - >> " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 >> >> Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM >> Re: Warren Buffett >> >> >> My dear Vyas, >> >> Yes it would be nice to have his chart. >> >> In my view, the potential ascendants are: >> >> Leo >> Virgo >> Libra >> Pisces >> >> Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. >> >> What do you think? >> >> Best Wishes, >> >> Arun >> >> Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: >> Dear Jorge and Arun, >> >> You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand >> the >> chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the >> world. >> >> If this helps the discussion... >> >> A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great >> wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many >> years >> ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always >> succeed >> with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him >> better, contact-wise. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Vyas Munidas >> >> - >> " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino >> >> Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM >> RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet >> >> My dear Mr. Arun, >> >> I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Jorge >> >> >> On >> Behalf >> Of Arun Rao >> quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 >> >> RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet >> >> My dear Mr. Angelino, >> >> Thank you for your efforts. >> >> Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general >> overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no >> verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. >> >> Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, >> it >> becomes guesswork. >> >> Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously >> we >> cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the >> placements >> of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. >> >> But deeper examination is needed. >> >> Best Wishes, >> >> Arun >> >> Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK >> " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: >> Dear Vyas, >> >> Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous >> message. >> >> Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in >> a >> successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no >> trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list >> members >> have a better luck. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Jorge >> >> >> HYPERLINK >> " %40 " >> [HYPERLINK >> " %40 " ] On Behalf >> Of >> Vyas Munidas >> terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 >> HYPERLINK >> " %40 " >> Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet >> >> Dear Jorge, >> >> Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this >> chart. >> He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a >> timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in >> hopes >> that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other >> esteemed >> members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. >> >> Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST >> >> 1944: (14 years old) >> invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland >> >> 1945: (15 years old) >> first job >> >> 1947: (17 years old) >> freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. >> >> 1950: (20 years old) >> Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at >> Columbia. >> >> 1952: (22 years old) >> Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female >> >> 1954: (24 years old) >> New job with Graham >> Second child, male >> >> 1956: (26 years old) >> Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett >> family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett >> Associates, >> Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in >> a >> total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of >> the year, >> >> 1957: (27 years old) >> Third child, Peter, >> Purchased a five-bedroom house >> >> 1960: (30 years old) >> Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who >> will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, >> 11 >> doctors agreed to invest. >> >> 1961: (31 years old) >> With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million >> investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. >> >> 1965: (35 years old) >> Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) >> >> 1968: (38 years old) >> Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts >> college in Iowa. >> >> 1969: (39 years old) >> Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and >> liquidated its assets to his partners. >> >> 1971: (41 years old) >> At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna >> Beach. >> >> 1974: (44 years old) >> Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio >> began >> to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. >> Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into >> Warren >> GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the >> investigation. >> >> 1977: (47 years old) >> Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 >> million. >> Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing >> paper. >> Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This >> caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. >> >> 1983: (53 years old) >> Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the >> first >> time. >> >> 1988: (58 years old) >> Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up >> to >> 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one >> of >> Berkshire's most lucrative investments. >> >> 1989: (59 years old) >> Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth >> rose >> with it to $3.8 billion. >> >> 1997: (67 years old) >> Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at >> about $6 per ounce. >> >> 2002: (72 years old) >> Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US >> dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these >> contracts was over $2 billion. >> >> 2003: (73 years old) >> By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 >> million dollars. >> Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, >> conducted >> by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for >> President in 2004.[14] >> >> 2004: (74 years old) >> Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola >> Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of >> interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy >> buyers >> of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor >> Pepsi? " >> >> 2005: (75 years old) >> The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar >> strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance >> divisions. >> >> 2006: (76 years old) >> >> Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re >> Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American >> International Group. >> Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has >> ever made outside of the United States. >> Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about >> $37 >> billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of >> stock starting in July 2006. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Vyas Munidas >> >> - >> " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK >> " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> >> <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK >> " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> >> Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM >> RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet >> >> > My dear Vyas, >> > >> > >> > >> > I have not such rectified charts in my data. >> > >> > >> > >> > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a >> > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the >> > possibility >> > of having friendship with the government and important people. >> > >> > >> > >> > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK >> > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK >> > >> " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK >> > >> " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK >> > " HYPERLINK >> > >> " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK >> > >> " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet >> > >> > >> > >> > Best wishes, >> > >> > >> > >> > Jorge >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK >> > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com >> > [HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK >> > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On >> > Behalf >> > Of Vyas Munidas >> > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 >> > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK >> > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com >> > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet >> > >> > >> > >> > Dearest Jorge (and list), >> > >> > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows >> > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 >> > >> > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 Budapest, >> > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 >> > >> > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please take >> > a >> > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? >> > >> > Best regards, >> > >> > Vyas Munidas >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > >> > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: >> 28.07.2006 >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > >> > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: >> 31.07.2006 >> > >> > >> > >> > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 3, 2006 Dear Vyas, Strong Saturn influences the 2nd lord and 2nd house closely. This gives frugality. Mercury, the strong 2nd lord, is not a planet of opulence either. Especially so when it's in Virgo. Plus the weakness and afflictions to Venus and lord of the 12th house, Moon. In this case, his personality is a mighty one and fits a king. His involvement in governmental affairs strongly suits Leo as well. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Thank you dear Professor, The Leo ascendant can certainly show the wealth status, especially through investments. This asc would make him live like a king though; he's very frugal on 100k/yr in the same 5 bedroom stucko home he bought decades ago. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - <siha Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:20 AM Re: Warren Buffett > > Hello Vyas, > > Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. > > Best wishes, > > > > > - > " Vyas Munidas " <muni> > > Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM > Re: Warren Buffett > > >> Dear Professor, >> >> What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the >> world >> who lives like a miser comparatively? >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Vyas Munidas >> >> >> >> - >> " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 >> >> Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM >> Re: Warren Buffett >> >> >> My dear Vyas, >> >> Yes it would be nice to have his chart. >> >> In my view, the potential ascendants are: >> >> Leo >> Virgo >> Libra >> Pisces >> >> Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. >> >> What do you think? >> >> Best Wishes, >> >> Arun >> >> Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: >> Dear Jorge and Arun, >> >> You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand >> the >> chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the >> world. >> >> If this helps the discussion... >> >> A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great >> wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many >> years >> ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always >> succeed >> with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him >> better, contact-wise. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Vyas Munidas >> >> - >> " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino >> >> Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM >> RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet >> >> My dear Mr. Arun, >> >> I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Jorge >> >> >> On >> Behalf >> Of Arun Rao >> quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 >> >> RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet >> >> My dear Mr. Angelino, >> >> Thank you for your efforts. >> >> Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general >> overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no >> verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. >> >> Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, >> it >> becomes guesswork. >> >> Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously >> we >> cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the >> placements >> of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. >> >> But deeper examination is needed. >> >> Best Wishes, >> >> Arun >> >> Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK >> " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: >> Dear Vyas, >> >> Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous >> message. >> >> Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in >> a >> successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no >> trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list >> members >> have a better luck. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Jorge >> >> >> HYPERLINK >> " %40 " >> [HYPERLINK >> " %40 " ] On Behalf >> Of >> Vyas Munidas >> terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 >> HYPERLINK >> " %40 " >> Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet >> >> Dear Jorge, >> >> Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this >> chart. >> He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a >> timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in >> hopes >> that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other >> esteemed >> members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. >> >> Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST >> >> 1944: (14 years old) >> invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland >> >> 1945: (15 years old) >> first job >> >> 1947: (17 years old) >> freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. >> >> 1950: (20 years old) >> Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at >> Columbia. >> >> 1952: (22 years old) >> Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female >> >> 1954: (24 years old) >> New job with Graham >> Second child, male >> >> 1956: (26 years old) >> Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett >> family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett >> Associates, >> Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in >> a >> total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of >> the year, >> >> 1957: (27 years old) >> Third child, Peter, >> Purchased a five-bedroom house >> >> 1960: (30 years old) >> Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who >> will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, >> 11 >> doctors agreed to invest. >> >> 1961: (31 years old) >> With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million >> investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. >> >> 1965: (35 years old) >> Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) >> >> 1968: (38 years old) >> Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts >> college in Iowa. >> >> 1969: (39 years old) >> Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and >> liquidated its assets to his partners. >> >> 1971: (41 years old) >> At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna >> Beach. >> >> 1974: (44 years old) >> Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio >> began >> to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. >> Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into >> Warren >> GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the >> investigation. >> >> 1977: (47 years old) >> Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 >> million. >> Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing >> paper. >> Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This >> caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. >> >> 1983: (53 years old) >> Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the >> first >> time. >> >> 1988: (58 years old) >> Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up >> to >> 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one >> of >> Berkshire's most lucrative investments. >> >> 1989: (59 years old) >> Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth >> rose >> with it to $3.8 billion. >> >> 1997: (67 years old) >> Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at >> about $6 per ounce. >> >> 2002: (72 years old) >> Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US >> dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these >> contracts was over $2 billion. >> >> 2003: (73 years old) >> By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 >> million dollars. >> Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, >> conducted >> by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for >> President in 2004.[14] >> >> 2004: (74 years old) >> Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola >> Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of >> interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy >> buyers >> of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor >> Pepsi? " >> >> 2005: (75 years old) >> The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar >> strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance >> divisions. >> >> 2006: (76 years old) >> >> Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re >> Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American >> International Group. >> Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has >> ever made outside of the United States. >> Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about >> $37 >> billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of >> stock starting in July 2006. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Vyas Munidas >> >> - >> " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK >> " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> >> <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK >> " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> >> Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM >> RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet >> >> > My dear Vyas, >> > >> > >> > >> > I have not such rectified charts in my data. >> > >> > >> > >> > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a >> > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the >> > possibility >> > of having friendship with the government and important people. >> > >> > >> > >> > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK >> > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK >> > >> " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK >> > >> " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK >> > " HYPERLINK >> > >> " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK >> > >> " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet >> > >> > >> > >> > Best wishes, >> > >> > >> > >> > Jorge >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK >> > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com >> > [HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK >> > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On >> > Behalf >> > Of Vyas Munidas >> > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 >> > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK >> > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com >> > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet >> > >> > >> > >> > Dearest Jorge (and list), >> > >> > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows >> > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 >> > >> > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 Budapest, >> > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 >> > >> > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please take >> > a >> > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? >> > >> > Best regards, >> > >> > Vyas Munidas >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > >> > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: >> 28.07.2006 >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > >> > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: >> 31.07.2006 >> > >> > >> > >> > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 3, 2006 Dear Arun, As you've pointed out Saturnian influence can give this frugality. How about an Aq asc? Certainly it would show strong Sun/Leo traits with Su L7 Aq if the MEP is as suspected. It shows show fantastic affluence through investments as well. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:38 AM Re: Warren Buffett My dear Esteemed Professor and Vyas, Leo ascendant folk (myself included) have a unique look, especially when the Sun influences the ascendant or 2nd house (face) closely. One can expect a wider face with strong bone structure therein. The nose may be prominent and somewhat wide. Mr. Buffett also has a strong forehead, which is consistent with other Leo's. Hence my initial assessment was Leo. Being one, I know one when I see one Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello Vyas, Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. Best wishes, - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM Re: Warren Buffett > Dear Professor, > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the world > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > My dear Vyas, > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > Leo > Virgo > Libra > Pisces > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. > > What do you think? > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the > chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. > > If this helps the discussion... > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many > years > ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed > with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him > better, contact-wise. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > On Behalf > Of Arun Rao > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > Thank you for your efforts. > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general > overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, > it > becomes guesswork. > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously > we > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. > > But deeper examination is needed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK > " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: > Dear Vyas, > > Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous > message. > > Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in > a > successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no > trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list > members > have a better luck. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > HYPERLINK > " %40 " > [HYPERLINK > " %40 " ] On Behalf Of > Vyas Munidas > terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 > HYPERLINK " %40 " > Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > Dear Jorge, > > Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this > chart. > He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a > timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes > that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other > esteemed > members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. > > Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST > > 1944: (14 years old) > invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland > > 1945: (15 years old) > first job > > 1947: (17 years old) > freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. > > 1950: (20 years old) > Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at > Columbia. > > 1952: (22 years old) > Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female > > 1954: (24 years old) > New job with Graham > Second child, male > > 1956: (26 years old) > Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett > family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett > Associates, > Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a > total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of > the year, > > 1957: (27 years old) > Third child, Peter, > Purchased a five-bedroom house > > 1960: (30 years old) > Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who > will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, > 11 > doctors agreed to invest. > > 1961: (31 years old) > With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million > investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. > > 1965: (35 years old) > Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) > > 1968: (38 years old) > Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts > college in Iowa. > > 1969: (39 years old) > Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and > liquidated its assets to his partners. > > 1971: (41 years old) > At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna > Beach. > > 1974: (44 years old) > Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio > began > to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. > Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into > Warren > GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the > investigation. > > 1977: (47 years old) > Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. > Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing > paper. > Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This > caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. > > 1983: (53 years old) > Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the > first > time. > > 1988: (58 years old) > Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up > to > 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of > Berkshire's most lucrative investments. > > 1989: (59 years old) > Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth > rose > with it to $3.8 billion. > > 1997: (67 years old) > Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at > about $6 per ounce. > > 2002: (72 years old) > Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US > dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these > contracts was over $2 billion. > > 2003: (73 years old) > By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 > million dollars. > Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted > by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for > President in 2004.[14] > > 2004: (74 years old) > Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola > Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of > interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy > buyers > of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor > Pepsi? " > > 2005: (75 years old) > The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar > strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance > divisions. > > 2006: (76 years old) > > Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re > Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American > International Group. > Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has > ever made outside of the United States. > Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about > $37 > billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of > stock starting in July 2006. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK > " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> > <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> > Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the > > possibility > > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > [HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On > > Behalf > > Of Vyas Munidas > > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > > > > > Dearest Jorge (and list), > > > > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows > > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 > > > > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 Budapest, > > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 > > > > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please take > > a > > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: > 28.07.2006 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: > 31.07.2006 > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 3, 2006 Dear Vyas, Yes, it's also possible. For now, I'd stick to Leo until a discrepancy (if any) comes up. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Arun, As you've pointed out Saturnian influence can give this frugality. How about an Aq asc? Certainly it would show strong Sun/Leo traits with Su L7 Aq if the MEP is as suspected. It shows show fantastic affluence through investments as well. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:38 AM Re: Warren Buffett My dear Esteemed Professor and Vyas, Leo ascendant folk (myself included) have a unique look, especially when the Sun influences the ascendant or 2nd house (face) closely. One can expect a wider face with strong bone structure therein. The nose may be prominent and somewhat wide. Mr. Buffett also has a strong forehead, which is consistent with other Leo's. Hence my initial assessment was Leo. Being one, I know one when I see one Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello Vyas, Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. Best wishes, - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM Re: Warren Buffett > Dear Professor, > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the world > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > My dear Vyas, > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > Leo > Virgo > Libra > Pisces > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. > > What do you think? > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the > chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. > > If this helps the discussion... > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many > years > ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed > with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him > better, contact-wise. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > On Behalf > Of Arun Rao > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > Thank you for your efforts. > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general > overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, > it > becomes guesswork. > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously > we > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. > > But deeper examination is needed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK > " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: > Dear Vyas, > > Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous > message. > > Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in > a > successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no > trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list > members > have a better luck. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > HYPERLINK > " %40 " > [HYPERLINK > " %40 " ] On Behalf Of > Vyas Munidas > terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 > HYPERLINK " %40 " > Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > Dear Jorge, > > Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this > chart. > He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a > timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes > that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other > esteemed > members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. > > Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST > > 1944: (14 years old) > invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland > > 1945: (15 years old) > first job > > 1947: (17 years old) > freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. > > 1950: (20 years old) > Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at > Columbia. > > 1952: (22 years old) > Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female > > 1954: (24 years old) > New job with Graham > Second child, male > > 1956: (26 years old) > Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett > family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett > Associates, > Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a > total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of > the year, > > 1957: (27 years old) > Third child, Peter, > Purchased a five-bedroom house > > 1960: (30 years old) > Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who > will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, > 11 > doctors agreed to invest. > > 1961: (31 years old) > With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million > investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. > > 1965: (35 years old) > Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) > > 1968: (38 years old) > Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts > college in Iowa. > > 1969: (39 years old) > Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and > liquidated its assets to his partners. > > 1971: (41 years old) > At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna > Beach. > > 1974: (44 years old) > Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio > began > to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. > Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into > Warren > GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the > investigation. > > 1977: (47 years old) > Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. > Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing > paper. > Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This > caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. > > 1983: (53 years old) > Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the > first > time. > > 1988: (58 years old) > Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up > to > 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of > Berkshire's most lucrative investments. > > 1989: (59 years old) > Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth > rose > with it to $3.8 billion. > > 1997: (67 years old) > Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at > about $6 per ounce. > > 2002: (72 years old) > Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US > dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these > contracts was over $2 billion. > > 2003: (73 years old) > By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 > million dollars. > Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted > by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for > President in 2004.[14] > > 2004: (74 years old) > Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola > Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of > interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy > buyers > of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor > Pepsi? " > > 2005: (75 years old) > The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar > strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance > divisions. > > 2006: (76 years old) > > Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re > Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American > International Group. > Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has > ever made outside of the United States. > Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about > $37 > billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of > stock starting in July 2006. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK > " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> > <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> > Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the > > possibility > > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > [HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On > > Behalf > > Of Vyas Munidas > > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > > > > > Dearest Jorge (and list), > > > > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows > > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 > > > > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 Budapest, > > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 > > > > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please take > > a > > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: > 28.07.2006 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: > 31.07.2006 > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 3, 2006 Dear Arun, From my understanding, the frugality influence has to be on significations of the person (the Asc, LO1, or the Sun). His wealth is that of a king, his attitude towards spending on himself is more that of a pauper. It's only recently that he started to pay himself 100k/yr; it used to be 50. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:55 AM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Vyas, Strong Saturn influences the 2nd lord and 2nd house closely. This gives frugality. Mercury, the strong 2nd lord, is not a planet of opulence either. Especially so when it's in Virgo. Plus the weakness and afflictions to Venus and lord of the 12th house, Moon. In this case, his personality is a mighty one and fits a king. His involvement in governmental affairs strongly suits Leo as well. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Thank you dear Professor, The Leo ascendant can certainly show the wealth status, especially through investments. This asc would make him live like a king though; he's very frugal on 100k/yr in the same 5 bedroom stucko home he bought decades ago. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - <siha Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:20 AM Re: Warren Buffett > > Hello Vyas, > > Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. > > Best wishes, > > > > > - > " Vyas Munidas " <muni> > > Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM > Re: Warren Buffett > > >> Dear Professor, >> >> What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the >> world >> who lives like a miser comparatively? >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Vyas Munidas >> >> >> >> - >> " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 >> >> Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM >> Re: Warren Buffett >> >> >> My dear Vyas, >> >> Yes it would be nice to have his chart. >> >> In my view, the potential ascendants are: >> >> Leo >> Virgo >> Libra >> Pisces >> >> Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. >> >> What do you think? >> >> Best Wishes, >> >> Arun >> >> Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: >> Dear Jorge and Arun, >> >> You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand >> the >> chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the >> world. >> >> If this helps the discussion... >> >> A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great >> wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many >> years >> ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always >> succeed >> with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him >> better, contact-wise. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Vyas Munidas >> >> - >> " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino >> >> Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM >> RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet >> >> My dear Mr. Arun, >> >> I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Jorge >> >> >> On >> Behalf >> Of Arun Rao >> quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 >> >> RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet >> >> My dear Mr. Angelino, >> >> Thank you for your efforts. >> >> Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general >> overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no >> verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. >> >> Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, >> it >> becomes guesswork. >> >> Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously >> we >> cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the >> placements >> of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. >> >> But deeper examination is needed. >> >> Best Wishes, >> >> Arun >> >> Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK >> " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: >> Dear Vyas, >> >> Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous >> message. >> >> Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in >> a >> successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no >> trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list >> members >> have a better luck. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Jorge >> >> >> HYPERLINK >> " %40 " >> [HYPERLINK >> " %40 " ] On Behalf >> Of >> Vyas Munidas >> terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 >> HYPERLINK >> " %40 " >> Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet >> >> Dear Jorge, >> >> Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this >> chart. >> He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a >> timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in >> hopes >> that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other >> esteemed >> members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. >> >> Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST >> >> 1944: (14 years old) >> invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland >> >> 1945: (15 years old) >> first job >> >> 1947: (17 years old) >> freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. >> >> 1950: (20 years old) >> Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at >> Columbia. >> >> 1952: (22 years old) >> Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female >> >> 1954: (24 years old) >> New job with Graham >> Second child, male >> >> 1956: (26 years old) >> Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett >> family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett >> Associates, >> Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in >> a >> total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of >> the year, >> >> 1957: (27 years old) >> Third child, Peter, >> Purchased a five-bedroom house >> >> 1960: (30 years old) >> Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who >> will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, >> 11 >> doctors agreed to invest. >> >> 1961: (31 years old) >> With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million >> investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. >> >> 1965: (35 years old) >> Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) >> >> 1968: (38 years old) >> Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts >> college in Iowa. >> >> 1969: (39 years old) >> Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and >> liquidated its assets to his partners. >> >> 1971: (41 years old) >> At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna >> Beach. >> >> 1974: (44 years old) >> Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio >> began >> to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. >> Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into >> Warren >> GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the >> investigation. >> >> 1977: (47 years old) >> Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 >> million. >> Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing >> paper. >> Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This >> caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. >> >> 1983: (53 years old) >> Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the >> first >> time. >> >> 1988: (58 years old) >> Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up >> to >> 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one >> of >> Berkshire's most lucrative investments. >> >> 1989: (59 years old) >> Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth >> rose >> with it to $3.8 billion. >> >> 1997: (67 years old) >> Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at >> about $6 per ounce. >> >> 2002: (72 years old) >> Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US >> dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these >> contracts was over $2 billion. >> >> 2003: (73 years old) >> By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 >> million dollars. >> Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, >> conducted >> by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for >> President in 2004.[14] >> >> 2004: (74 years old) >> Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola >> Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of >> interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy >> buyers >> of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor >> Pepsi? " >> >> 2005: (75 years old) >> The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar >> strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance >> divisions. >> >> 2006: (76 years old) >> >> Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re >> Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American >> International Group. >> Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has >> ever made outside of the United States. >> Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about >> $37 >> billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of >> stock starting in July 2006. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Vyas Munidas >> >> - >> " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK >> " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> >> <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK >> " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> >> Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM >> RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet >> >> > My dear Vyas, >> > >> > >> > >> > I have not such rectified charts in my data. >> > >> > >> > >> > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a >> > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the >> > possibility >> > of having friendship with the government and important people. >> > >> > >> > >> > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK >> > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK >> > >> " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK >> > >> " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK >> > " HYPERLINK >> > >> " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK >> > >> " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet >> > >> > >> > >> > Best wishes, >> > >> > >> > >> > Jorge >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK >> > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com >> > [HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK >> > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On >> > Behalf >> > Of Vyas Munidas >> > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 >> > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK >> > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com >> > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet >> > >> > >> > >> > Dearest Jorge (and list), >> > >> > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows >> > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 >> > >> > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 Budapest, >> > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 >> > >> > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please take >> > a >> > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? >> > >> > Best regards, >> > >> > Vyas Munidas >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > >> > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: >> 28.07.2006 >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > >> > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: >> 31.07.2006 >> > >> > >> > >> > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 3, 2006 Dear Professor, Thanks for the further information on this. So my understanding below isn't complete? " From my understanding, the frugality influence has to be on significations of the person (the Asc, LO1, or the Sun). " Best regards, Vyas Munidas - <siha Thursday, August 03, 2006 1:02 AM Re: Warren Buffett > > Hello Vyas and Arun, > > People with weak Venus are less liberal with luxuries and appear to be > living on frugality. Coupled in this case is the close influence of > Saturn. > > Best wishes, > > > > > - > " Vyas Munidas " <muni> > > Thursday, August 03, 2006 10:27 AM > Re: Warren Buffett > > >> Dear Arun, >> >> As you've pointed out Saturnian influence can give this frugality. >> >> How about an Aq asc? Certainly it would show strong Sun/Leo traits with >> Su >> L7 Aq if the MEP is as suspected. It shows show fantastic affluence >> through >> investments as well. >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Vyas Munidas >> >> >> >> - >> " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 >> >> Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:38 AM >> Re: Warren Buffett >> >> >> My dear Esteemed Professor and Vyas, >> >> Leo ascendant folk (myself included) have a unique look, especially when >> the >> Sun influences the ascendant or 2nd house (face) closely. >> >> One can expect a wider face with strong bone structure therein. The nose >> may >> be prominent and somewhat wide. >> >> Mr. Buffett also has a strong forehead, which is consistent with other >> Leo's. >> >> Hence my initial assessment was Leo. Being one, I know one when I see one >> >> >> Best Wishes, >> >> Arun >> >> siha wrote: >> Hello Vyas, >> >> Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> - >> " Vyas Munidas " <muni> >> >> Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM >> Re: Warren Buffett >> >> > Dear Professor, >> > >> > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the >> world >> > who lives like a miser comparatively? >> > >> > >> > >> > Best regards, >> > >> > Vyas Munidas >> > >> > >> > >> > - >> > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 >> > >> > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM >> > Re: Warren Buffett >> > >> > >> > My dear Vyas, >> > >> > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. >> > >> > In my view, the potential ascendants are: >> > >> > Leo >> > Virgo >> > Libra >> > Pisces >> > >> > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. >> > >> > What do you think? >> > >> > Best Wishes, >> > >> > Arun >> > >> > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: >> > Dear Jorge and Arun, >> > >> > You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand >> the >> > chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the >> world. >> > >> > If this helps the discussion... >> > >> > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite >> > great >> > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many >> > years >> > ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always >> succeed >> > with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned >> > him >> > better, contact-wise. >> > >> > Best regards, >> > >> > Vyas Munidas >> > >> > - >> > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino >> > >> > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM >> > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet >> > >> > My dear Mr. Arun, >> > >> > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. >> > >> > Best wishes, >> > >> > Jorge >> > >> > >> > On >> Behalf >> > Of Arun Rao >> > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 >> > >> > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet >> > >> > My dear Mr. Angelino, >> > >> > Thank you for your efforts. >> > >> > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general >> > overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no >> > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. >> > >> > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off >> > of, >> > it >> > becomes guesswork. >> > >> > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but >> > obviously >> > we >> > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the >> placements >> > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. >> > >> > But deeper examination is needed. >> > >> > Best Wishes, >> > >> > Arun >> > >> > Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK >> > " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> >> > wrote: >> > Dear Vyas, >> > >> > Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my >> > previous >> > message. >> > >> > Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive >> > in >> > a >> > successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no >> > trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list >> > members >> > have a better luck. >> > >> > Best wishes, >> > >> > Jorge >> > >> > >> > HYPERLINK >> > " %40 " >> > [HYPERLINK >> > " %40 " ] On Behalf >> Of >> > Vyas Munidas >> > terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 >> > HYPERLINK >> " %40 " >> > Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet >> > >> > Dear Jorge, >> > >> > Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this >> > chart. >> > He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included >> > a >> > timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in >> hopes >> > that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other >> > esteemed >> > members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. >> > >> > Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST >> > >> > 1944: (14 years old) >> > invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland >> > >> > 1945: (15 years old) >> > first job >> > >> > 1947: (17 years old) >> > freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. >> > >> > 1950: (20 years old) >> > Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at >> > Columbia. >> > >> > 1952: (22 years old) >> > Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female >> > >> > 1954: (24 years old) >> > New job with Graham >> > Second child, male >> > >> > 1956: (26 years old) >> > Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The >> > Buffett >> > family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett >> > Associates, >> > Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put >> > in >> a >> > total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course >> > of >> > the year, >> > >> > 1957: (27 years old) >> > Third child, Peter, >> > Purchased a five-bedroom house >> > >> > 1960: (30 years old) >> > Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors >> > who >> > will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. >> > Eventually, >> > 11 >> > doctors agreed to invest. >> > >> > 1961: (31 years old) >> > With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million >> > investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. >> > >> > 1965: (35 years old) >> > Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) >> > >> > 1968: (38 years old) >> > Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal >> > arts >> > college in Iowa. >> > >> > 1969: (39 years old) >> > Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and >> > liquidated its assets to his partners. >> > >> > 1971: (41 years old) >> > At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at >> > Laguna >> > Beach. >> > >> > 1974: (44 years old) >> > Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio >> > began >> > to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. >> > Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into >> > Warren >> > GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the >> > investigation. >> > >> > 1977: (47 years old) >> > Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 >> million. >> > Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing >> > paper. >> > Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This >> > caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. >> > >> > 1983: (53 years old) >> > Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the >> > first >> > time. >> > >> > 1988: (58 years old) >> > Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing >> > up >> > to >> > 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one >> of >> > Berkshire's most lucrative investments. >> > >> > 1989: (59 years old) >> > Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth >> > rose >> > with it to $3.8 billion. >> > >> > 1997: (67 years old) >> > Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment >> > at >> > about $6 per ounce. >> > >> > 2002: (72 years old) >> > Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US >> > dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on >> > these >> > contracts was over $2 billion. >> > >> > 2003: (73 years old) >> > By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 >> > million dollars. >> > Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, >> conducted >> > by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee >> > for >> > President in 2004.[14] >> > >> > 2004: (74 years old) >> > Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of >> > Coca-Cola >> > Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of >> > interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy >> > buyers >> > of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor >> > Pepsi? " >> > >> > 2005: (75 years old) >> > The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US >> > dollar >> > strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's >> > reinsurance >> > divisions. >> > >> > 2006: (76 years old) >> > >> > Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re >> > Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with >> > American >> > International Group. >> > Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he >> > has >> > ever made outside of the United States. >> > Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about >> > $37 >> > billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts >> > of >> > stock starting in July 2006. >> > >> > Best regards, >> > >> > Vyas Munidas >> > >> > - >> > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK >> > " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> >> > <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK >> > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> >> > Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM >> > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet >> > >> > > My dear Vyas, >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a >> > > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the >> > > possibility >> > > of having friendship with the government and important people. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK >> > > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK >> > > >> > >> " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK >> > > >> > >> " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK >> > > " HYPERLINK >> > > >> > >> " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK >> > > >> > >> " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Best wishes, >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Jorge >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK >> > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com >> > > [HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK >> > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On >> > > Behalf >> > > Of Vyas Munidas >> > > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 >> > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK >> > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com >> > > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Dearest Jorge (and list), >> > > >> > > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows >> > > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 >> > > >> > > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 >> > > Budapest, >> > > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 >> > > >> > > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please >> > > take >> > > a >> > > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? >> > > >> > > Best regards, >> > > >> > > Vyas Munidas >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > >> > > >> > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: >> > 28.07.2006 >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > >> > > >> > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: >> > 31.07.2006 >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 3, 2006 Many thanks, esteemed Professor. Your page on judging assets comes in quite handy, where you mention that Saturn and Mercury indicate more humble possessions. In this case, Mercury becomes the prime significator for assets and is under the close influence of strong Saturn. As you've pointed out, the weakness of Venus plays a big role. As does the weak L12 Moon to some degree. L12 Moon is also debilitated in D-4. Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello Vyas and Arun, People with weak Venus are less liberal with luxuries and appear to be living on frugality. Coupled in this case is the close influence of Saturn. Best wishes, - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> Thursday, August 03, 2006 10:27 AM Re: Warren Buffett > Dear Arun, > > As you've pointed out Saturnian influence can give this frugality. > > How about an Aq asc? Certainly it would show strong Sun/Leo traits with Su > L7 Aq if the MEP is as suspected. It shows show fantastic affluence > through > investments as well. > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:38 AM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > My dear Esteemed Professor and Vyas, > > Leo ascendant folk (myself included) have a unique look, especially when > the > Sun influences the ascendant or 2nd house (face) closely. > > One can expect a wider face with strong bone structure therein. The nose > may > be prominent and somewhat wide. > > Mr. Buffett also has a strong forehead, which is consistent with other > Leo's. > > Hence my initial assessment was Leo. Being one, I know one when I see one > > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > siha wrote: > Hello Vyas, > > Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. > > Best wishes, > > > > - > " Vyas Munidas " <muni> > > Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > Dear Professor, > > > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the > world > > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > > > - > > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > > Re: Warren Buffett > > > > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > > > Leo > > Virgo > > Libra > > Pisces > > > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. > > > > What do you think? > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Arun > > > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > > > You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand > the > > chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the > world. > > > > If this helps the discussion... > > > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great > > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many > > years > > ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always > succeed > > with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned > > him > > better, contact-wise. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > > > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Jorge > > > > > > On > Behalf > > Of Arun Rao > > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > > > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > > > Thank you for your efforts. > > > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general > > overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no > > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. > > > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off > > of, > > it > > becomes guesswork. > > > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but > > obviously > > we > > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the > placements > > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. > > > > But deeper examination is needed. > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Arun > > > > Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK > > " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> > > wrote: > > Dear Vyas, > > > > Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous > > message. > > > > Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive > > in > > a > > successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no > > trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list > > members > > have a better luck. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Jorge > > > > > > HYPERLINK > > " %40 " > > [HYPERLINK > > " %40 " ] On Behalf > Of > > Vyas Munidas > > terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 > > HYPERLINK > " %40 " > > Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > Dear Jorge, > > > > Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this > > chart. > > He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included > > a > > timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in > hopes > > that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other > > esteemed > > members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. > > > > Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST > > > > 1944: (14 years old) > > invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland > > > > 1945: (15 years old) > > first job > > > > 1947: (17 years old) > > freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. > > > > 1950: (20 years old) > > Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at > > Columbia. > > > > 1952: (22 years old) > > Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female > > > > 1954: (24 years old) > > New job with Graham > > Second child, male > > > > 1956: (26 years old) > > Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The > > Buffett > > family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett > > Associates, > > Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in > a > > total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course > > of > > the year, > > > > 1957: (27 years old) > > Third child, Peter, > > Purchased a five-bedroom house > > > > 1960: (30 years old) > > Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors > > who > > will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, > > 11 > > doctors agreed to invest. > > > > 1961: (31 years old) > > With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million > > investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. > > > > 1965: (35 years old) > > Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) > > > > 1968: (38 years old) > > Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts > > college in Iowa. > > > > 1969: (39 years old) > > Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and > > liquidated its assets to his partners. > > > > 1971: (41 years old) > > At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at > > Laguna > > Beach. > > > > 1974: (44 years old) > > Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio > > began > > to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. > > Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into > > Warren > > GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the > > investigation. > > > > 1977: (47 years old) > > Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 > million. > > Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing > > paper. > > Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This > > caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. > > > > 1983: (53 years old) > > Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the > > first > > time. > > > > 1988: (58 years old) > > Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing > > up > > to > > 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one > of > > Berkshire's most lucrative investments. > > > > 1989: (59 years old) > > Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth > > rose > > with it to $3.8 billion. > > > > 1997: (67 years old) > > Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment > > at > > about $6 per ounce. > > > > 2002: (72 years old) > > Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US > > dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these > > contracts was over $2 billion. > > > > 2003: (73 years old) > > By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 > > million dollars. > > Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, > conducted > > by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for > > President in 2004.[14] > > > > 2004: (74 years old) > > Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola > > Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of > > interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy > > buyers > > of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor > > Pepsi? " > > > > 2005: (75 years old) > > The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar > > strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance > > divisions. > > > > 2006: (76 years old) > > > > Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re > > Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American > > International Group. > > Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has > > ever made outside of the United States. > > Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about > > $37 > > billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts > > of > > stock starting in July 2006. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK > > " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> > > <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> > > Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > > > > > > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > > > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the > > > possibility > > > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > > > > > > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > > > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > > > > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " HYPERLINK > > > > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > > [HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On > > > Behalf > > > Of Vyas Munidas > > > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 > > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > > > > > > > > > Dearest Jorge (and list), > > > > > > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows > > > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 > > > > > > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 > > > Budapest, > > > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 > > > > > > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please > > > take > > > a > > > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: > > 28.07.2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: > > 31.07.2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 3, 2006 Dear Vyas, Not necessarily, as I've pointed out in an earlier post. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Arun, From my understanding, the frugality influence has to be on significations of the person (the Asc, LO1, or the Sun). His wealth is that of a king, his attitude towards spending on himself is more that of a pauper. It's only recently that he started to pay himself 100k/yr; it used to be 50. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:55 AM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Vyas, Strong Saturn influences the 2nd lord and 2nd house closely. This gives frugality. Mercury, the strong 2nd lord, is not a planet of opulence either. Especially so when it's in Virgo. Plus the weakness and afflictions to Venus and lord of the 12th house, Moon. In this case, his personality is a mighty one and fits a king. His involvement in governmental affairs strongly suits Leo as well. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Thank you dear Professor, The Leo ascendant can certainly show the wealth status, especially through investments. This asc would make him live like a king though; he's very frugal on 100k/yr in the same 5 bedroom stucko home he bought decades ago. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - <siha Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:20 AM Re: Warren Buffett > > Hello Vyas, > > Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. > > Best wishes, > > > > > - > " Vyas Munidas " <muni> > > Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM > Re: Warren Buffett > > >> Dear Professor, >> >> What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the >> world >> who lives like a miser comparatively? >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Vyas Munidas >> >> >> >> - >> " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 >> >> Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM >> Re: Warren Buffett >> >> >> My dear Vyas, >> >> Yes it would be nice to have his chart. >> >> In my view, the potential ascendants are: >> >> Leo >> Virgo >> Libra >> Pisces >> >> Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. >> >> What do you think? >> >> Best Wishes, >> >> Arun >> >> Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: >> Dear Jorge and Arun, >> >> You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand >> the >> chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the >> world. >> >> If this helps the discussion... >> >> A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great >> wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many >> years >> ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always >> succeed >> with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him >> better, contact-wise. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Vyas Munidas >> >> - >> " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino >> >> Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM >> RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet >> >> My dear Mr. Arun, >> >> I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Jorge >> >> >> On >> Behalf >> Of Arun Rao >> quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 >> >> RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet >> >> My dear Mr. Angelino, >> >> Thank you for your efforts. >> >> Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general >> overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no >> verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. >> >> Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, >> it >> becomes guesswork. >> >> Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously >> we >> cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the >> placements >> of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. >> >> But deeper examination is needed. >> >> Best Wishes, >> >> Arun >> >> Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK >> " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: >> Dear Vyas, >> >> Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous >> message. >> >> Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in >> a >> successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no >> trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list >> members >> have a better luck. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Jorge >> >> >> HYPERLINK >> " %40 " >> [HYPERLINK >> " %40 " ] On Behalf >> Of >> Vyas Munidas >> terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 >> HYPERLINK >> " %40 " >> Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet >> >> Dear Jorge, >> >> Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this >> chart. >> He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a >> timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in >> hopes >> that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other >> esteemed >> members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. >> >> Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST >> >> 1944: (14 years old) >> invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland >> >> 1945: (15 years old) >> first job >> >> 1947: (17 years old) >> freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. >> >> 1950: (20 years old) >> Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at >> Columbia. >> >> 1952: (22 years old) >> Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female >> >> 1954: (24 years old) >> New job with Graham >> Second child, male >> >> 1956: (26 years old) >> Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett >> family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett >> Associates, >> Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in >> a >> total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of >> the year, >> >> 1957: (27 years old) >> Third child, Peter, >> Purchased a five-bedroom house >> >> 1960: (30 years old) >> Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who >> will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, >> 11 >> doctors agreed to invest. >> >> 1961: (31 years old) >> With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million >> investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. >> >> 1965: (35 years old) >> Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) >> >> 1968: (38 years old) >> Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts >> college in Iowa. >> >> 1969: (39 years old) >> Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and >> liquidated its assets to his partners. >> >> 1971: (41 years old) >> At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna >> Beach. >> >> 1974: (44 years old) >> Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio >> began >> to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. >> Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into >> Warren >> GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the >> investigation. >> >> 1977: (47 years old) >> Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 >> million. >> Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing >> paper. >> Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This >> caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. >> >> 1983: (53 years old) >> Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the >> first >> time. >> >> 1988: (58 years old) >> Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up >> to >> 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one >> of >> Berkshire's most lucrative investments. >> >> 1989: (59 years old) >> Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth >> rose >> with it to $3.8 billion. >> >> 1997: (67 years old) >> Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at >> about $6 per ounce. >> >> 2002: (72 years old) >> Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US >> dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these >> contracts was over $2 billion. >> >> 2003: (73 years old) >> By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 >> million dollars. >> Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, >> conducted >> by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for >> President in 2004.[14] >> >> 2004: (74 years old) >> Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola >> Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of >> interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy >> buyers >> of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor >> Pepsi? " >> >> 2005: (75 years old) >> The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar >> strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance >> divisions. >> >> 2006: (76 years old) >> >> Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re >> Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American >> International Group. >> Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has >> ever made outside of the United States. >> Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about >> $37 >> billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of >> stock starting in July 2006. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Vyas Munidas >> >> - >> " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK >> " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> >> <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK >> " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> >> Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM >> RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet >> >> > My dear Vyas, >> > >> > >> > >> > I have not such rectified charts in my data. >> > >> > >> > >> > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a >> > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the >> > possibility >> > of having friendship with the government and important people. >> > >> > >> > >> > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK >> > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK >> > >> " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK >> > >> " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK >> > " HYPERLINK >> > >> " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK >> > >> " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet >> > >> > >> > >> > Best wishes, >> > >> > >> > >> > Jorge >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK >> > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com >> > [HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK >> > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On >> > Behalf >> > Of Vyas Munidas >> > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 >> > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK >> > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com >> > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet >> > >> > >> > >> > Dearest Jorge (and list), >> > >> > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows >> > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 >> > >> > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 Budapest, >> > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 >> > >> > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please take >> > a >> > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? >> > >> > Best regards, >> > >> > Vyas Munidas >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > >> > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: >> 28.07.2006 >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > >> > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: >> 31.07.2006 >> > >> > >> > >> > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 3, 2006 Dear Vyas, The nature of the prime determinant of profession should also be looked at. In the case of Leo, Mercury is the trader of the zodiac. Coupled with strong 5th/11th houses, a career in speculative activities seems to be a stronger possibility. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Arun, As you've pointed out Saturnian influence can give this frugality. How about an Aq asc? Certainly it would show strong Sun/Leo traits with Su L7 Aq if the MEP is as suspected. It shows show fantastic affluence through investments as well. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:38 AM Re: Warren Buffett My dear Esteemed Professor and Vyas, Leo ascendant folk (myself included) have a unique look, especially when the Sun influences the ascendant or 2nd house (face) closely. One can expect a wider face with strong bone structure therein. The nose may be prominent and somewhat wide. Mr. Buffett also has a strong forehead, which is consistent with other Leo's. Hence my initial assessment was Leo. Being one, I know one when I see one Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello Vyas, Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. Best wishes, - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM Re: Warren Buffett > Dear Professor, > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the world > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > My dear Vyas, > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > Leo > Virgo > Libra > Pisces > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. > > What do you think? > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the > chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. > > If this helps the discussion... > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many > years > ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed > with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him > better, contact-wise. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > On Behalf > Of Arun Rao > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > Thank you for your efforts. > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general > overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, > it > becomes guesswork. > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously > we > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. > > But deeper examination is needed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK > " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: > Dear Vyas, > > Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous > message. > > Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in > a > successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no > trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list > members > have a better luck. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > HYPERLINK > " %40 " > [HYPERLINK > " %40 " ] On Behalf Of > Vyas Munidas > terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 > HYPERLINK " %40 " > Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > Dear Jorge, > > Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this > chart. > He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a > timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes > that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other > esteemed > members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. > > Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST > > 1944: (14 years old) > invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland > > 1945: (15 years old) > first job > > 1947: (17 years old) > freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. > > 1950: (20 years old) > Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at > Columbia. > > 1952: (22 years old) > Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female > > 1954: (24 years old) > New job with Graham > Second child, male > > 1956: (26 years old) > Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett > family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett > Associates, > Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a > total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of > the year, > > 1957: (27 years old) > Third child, Peter, > Purchased a five-bedroom house > > 1960: (30 years old) > Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who > will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, > 11 > doctors agreed to invest. > > 1961: (31 years old) > With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million > investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. > > 1965: (35 years old) > Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) > > 1968: (38 years old) > Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts > college in Iowa. > > 1969: (39 years old) > Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and > liquidated its assets to his partners. > > 1971: (41 years old) > At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna > Beach. > > 1974: (44 years old) > Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio > began > to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. > Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into > Warren > GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the > investigation. > > 1977: (47 years old) > Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. > Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing > paper. > Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This > caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. > > 1983: (53 years old) > Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the > first > time. > > 1988: (58 years old) > Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up > to > 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of > Berkshire's most lucrative investments. > > 1989: (59 years old) > Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth > rose > with it to $3.8 billion. > > 1997: (67 years old) > Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at > about $6 per ounce. > > 2002: (72 years old) > Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US > dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these > contracts was over $2 billion. > > 2003: (73 years old) > By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 > million dollars. > Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted > by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for > President in 2004.[14] > > 2004: (74 years old) > Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola > Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of > interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy > buyers > of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor > Pepsi? " > > 2005: (75 years old) > The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar > strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance > divisions. > > 2006: (76 years old) > > Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re > Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American > International Group. > Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has > ever made outside of the United States. > Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about > $37 > billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of > stock starting in July 2006. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK > " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> > <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> > Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the > > possibility > > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > [HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On > > Behalf > > Of Vyas Munidas > > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > > > > > Dearest Jorge (and list), > > > > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows > > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 > > > > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 Budapest, > > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 > > > > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please take > > a > > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: > 28.07.2006 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: > 31.07.2006 > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 3, 2006 DEAR MR RAO, THE DETAILS OF BIRTH OF WARREN BUFFET WHICH IG GOT FROM THE NET IS Warren Buffet, born 1930 August 30 at 1200PM, Omaha, Nebraska (41N16 95W56 6W) CANT WE FIND THE ASCENDANT ? I AM NOT HAVING THE SOFTWARE . CAN YOU CHECK UP ? --- Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: > Dear Vyas, > > The nature of the prime determinant of profession > should also be looked at. > > In the case of Leo, Mercury is the trader of the > zodiac. Coupled with strong 5th/11th houses, a > career in speculative activities seems to be a > stronger possibility. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > Dear Arun, > > As you've pointed out Saturnian influence can give > this frugality. > > How about an Aq asc? Certainly it would show strong > Sun/Leo traits with Su > L7 Aq if the MEP is as suspected. It shows show > fantastic affluence through > investments as well. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:38 AM > Re: Warren Buffett > > My dear Esteemed Professor and Vyas, > > Leo ascendant folk (myself included) have a unique > look, especially when the > Sun influences the ascendant or 2nd house (face) > closely. > > One can expect a wider face with strong bone > structure therein. The nose may > be prominent and somewhat wide. > > Mr. Buffett also has a strong forehead, which is > consistent with other > Leo's. > > Hence my initial assessment was Leo. Being one, I > know one when I see one > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > siha wrote: > Hello Vyas, > > Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good > possibility. > > Best wishes, > > > > - > " Vyas Munidas " <muni> > > Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > Dear Professor, > > > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second > wealthiest man in the > world > > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > > > - > > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > > Re: Warren Buffett > > > > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > > > Leo > > Virgo > > Libra > > Pisces > > > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are > within reason. > > > > What do you think? > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Arun > > > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > > > You are right, it does need more study. It would > be nice to understand > the > > chart of the man publicly noted as the second > wealthiest man in the > world. > > > > If this helps the discussion... > > > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives > very frugally despite great > > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom > stucko house he bought many > > years > > ago. He supports abortion and population > control. He didn't always > succeed > > with his educational plans, but by luck the > second choices positioned him > > better, contact-wise. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > > " Jorge Angelino " > <jorge.angelino > > > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and > List, re Warren Buffet > > > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > On > Behalf > > Of Arun Rao > > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > > > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and > List, re Warren Buffet > > > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > > > Thank you for your efforts. > > > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart > to give one a general > > overview of what the planets in various signs > mean. When there is no > > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure > you're well aware of. > > > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to > base rectifications off of, > > it > > becomes guesswork. > > > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. > facially speaking, but obviously > > we > > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, > when seeing the > placements > > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be > a suitable ascendant. > > > > But deeper examination is needed. > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Arun > > > === message truncated === Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 3, 2006 Dear List, Vyas got me interested in Warren Buffett, and I checked out the book " Buffet, The Making of an American Capitalist " by Roger Lowenstein, at the library. The book has a lot of good personal information, though no birth time. On Aug 13, 1931, Warren's father's bank where he worked closed, and he lost his job and all savings. Also, Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. (perhaps debillitated moon in 4th-Oprah Winfrey, according to internet sources, is Leo with moon in fourth and had problems with mother). On Aug 13, 1931, the most afflicted ascendants for father were Leo, Sagittarius, and Aquarius. On Warren's date of birth, the ascendants with the most strong benefics were -Leo-5, Libra-4, Sagittarius-5, Aquarius-4, Aries-4, and Gemini-5. (This is keeping the MEP away from nodes). Leo, however, had the most combinations for wealth (benefics in or aspecting 2, 5, 11, and 9. Warren and family suffered poverty in his early years due to the depression, and this provided strong motivation to Warren- by the age of 5 he was stating he would grow up and be very rich. With the Leo ascendant,(depending on degree) Warren was born in Ketu subperiod, followed by weak Venus subperiod. If he is Leo, since the chart is so strong, the early weak sub periods provided strong motivation rather than hampering him in life. I was randomly checking a 6:40 birthtime which gave around 22 degrees Leo, but will check out 's suggestion of around 13 degrees rising. I will finish reading the book and check out the events against the other likely ascendants-I was strongly favoring a Leo ascendant, and glad to hear that the Professor and Arun see the same thing. But I will check out the other ascendant to make sure I am objective. I also saw strong possibility with Sagittarius and Aquarius. I really enjoy the list discussion-Sincerely, Sheri Powers Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: Dear Vyas, The nature of the prime determinant of profession should also be looked at. In the case of Leo, Mercury is the trader of the zodiac. Coupled with strong 5th/11th houses, a career in speculative activities seems to be a stronger possibility. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Arun, As you've pointed out Saturnian influence can give this frugality. How about an Aq asc? Certainly it would show strong Sun/Leo traits with Su L7 Aq if the MEP is as suspected. It shows show fantastic affluence through investments as well. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:38 AM Re: Warren Buffett My dear Esteemed Professor and Vyas, Leo ascendant folk (myself included) have a unique look, especially when the Sun influences the ascendant or 2nd house (face) closely. One can expect a wider face with strong bone structure therein. The nose may be prominent and somewhat wide. Mr. Buffett also has a strong forehead, which is consistent with other Leo's. Hence my initial assessment was Leo. Being one, I know one when I see one Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello Vyas, Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. Best wishes, - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM Re: Warren Buffett > Dear Professor, > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the world > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > My dear Vyas, > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > Leo > Virgo > Libra > Pisces > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. > > What do you think? > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the > chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. > > If this helps the discussion... > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many > years > ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed > with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him > better, contact-wise. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > On Behalf > Of Arun Rao > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > Thank you for your efforts. > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general > overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, > it > becomes guesswork. > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously > we > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. > > But deeper examination is needed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK > " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: > Dear Vyas, > > Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous > message. > > Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in > a > successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no > trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list > members > have a better luck. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > HYPERLINK > " %40 " > [HYPERLINK > " %40 " ] On Behalf Of > Vyas Munidas > terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 > HYPERLINK " %40 " > Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > Dear Jorge, > > Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this > chart. > He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a > timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes > that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other > esteemed > members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. > > Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST > > 1944: (14 years old) > invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland > > 1945: (15 years old) > first job > > 1947: (17 years old) > freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. > > 1950: (20 years old) > Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at > Columbia. > > 1952: (22 years old) > Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female > > 1954: (24 years old) > New job with Graham > Second child, male > > 1956: (26 years old) > Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett > family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett > Associates, > Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a > total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of > the year, > > 1957: (27 years old) > Third child, Peter, > Purchased a five-bedroom house > > 1960: (30 years old) > Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who > will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, > 11 > doctors agreed to invest. > > 1961: (31 years old) > With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million > investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. > > 1965: (35 years old) > Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) > > 1968: (38 years old) > Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts > college in Iowa. > > 1969: (39 years old) > Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and > liquidated its assets to his partners. > > 1971: (41 years old) > At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna > Beach. > > 1974: (44 years old) > Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio > began > to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. > Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into > Warren > GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the > investigation. > > 1977: (47 years old) > Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. > Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing > paper. > Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This > caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. > > 1983: (53 years old) > Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the > first > time. > > 1988: (58 years old) > Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up > to > 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of > Berkshire's most lucrative investments. > > 1989: (59 years old) > Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth > rose > with it to $3.8 billion. > > 1997: (67 years old) > Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at > about $6 per ounce. > > 2002: (72 years old) > Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US > dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these > contracts was over $2 billion. > > 2003: (73 years old) > By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 > million dollars. > Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted > by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for > President in 2004.[14] > > 2004: (74 years old) > Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola > Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of > interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy > buyers > of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor > Pepsi? " > > 2005: (75 years old) > The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar > strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance > divisions. > > 2006: (76 years old) > > Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re > Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American > International Group. > Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has > ever made outside of the United States. > Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about > $37 > billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of > stock starting in July 2006. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK > " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> > <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> > Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the > > possibility > > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > [HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On > > Behalf > > Of Vyas Munidas > > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > > > > > Dearest Jorge (and list), > > > > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows > > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 > > > > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 Budapest, > > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 > > > > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please take > > a > > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: > 28.07.2006 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: > 31.07.2006 > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 3, 2006 Dear Mr. Gopalakrishnan, Please read through the discussions between , Vyas, and myself. The ascendant is quite possibly Leo between 12 and 13 degrees. Best Wishes, Arun SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN <sadasivan_g wrote: DEAR MR RAO, THE DETAILS OF BIRTH OF WARREN BUFFET WHICH IG GOT FROM THE NET IS Warren Buffet, born 1930 August 30 at 1200PM, Omaha, Nebraska (41N16 95W56 6W) CANT WE FIND THE ASCENDANT ? I AM NOT HAVING THE SOFTWARE . CAN YOU CHECK UP ? --- Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: > Dear Vyas, > > The nature of the prime determinant of profession > should also be looked at. > > In the case of Leo, Mercury is the trader of the > zodiac. Coupled with strong 5th/11th houses, a > career in speculative activities seems to be a > stronger possibility. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > Dear Arun, > > As you've pointed out Saturnian influence can give > this frugality. > > How about an Aq asc? Certainly it would show strong > Sun/Leo traits with Su > L7 Aq if the MEP is as suspected. It shows show > fantastic affluence through > investments as well. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:38 AM > Re: Warren Buffett > > My dear Esteemed Professor and Vyas, > > Leo ascendant folk (myself included) have a unique > look, especially when the > Sun influences the ascendant or 2nd house (face) > closely. > > One can expect a wider face with strong bone > structure therein. The nose may > be prominent and somewhat wide. > > Mr. Buffett also has a strong forehead, which is > consistent with other > Leo's. > > Hence my initial assessment was Leo. Being one, I > know one when I see one > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > siha wrote: > Hello Vyas, > > Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good > possibility. > > Best wishes, > > > > - > " Vyas Munidas " <muni> > > Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > Dear Professor, > > > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second > wealthiest man in the > world > > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > > > - > > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > > Re: Warren Buffett > > > > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > > > Leo > > Virgo > > Libra > > Pisces > > > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are > within reason. > > > > What do you think? > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Arun > > > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > > > You are right, it does need more study. It would > be nice to understand > the > > chart of the man publicly noted as the second > wealthiest man in the > world. > > > > If this helps the discussion... > > > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives > very frugally despite great > > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom > stucko house he bought many > > years > > ago. He supports abortion and population > control. He didn't always > succeed > > with his educational plans, but by luck the > second choices positioned him > > better, contact-wise. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > > " Jorge Angelino " > <jorge.angelino > > > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and > List, re Warren Buffet > > > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > On > Behalf > > Of Arun Rao > > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > > > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and > List, re Warren Buffet > > > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > > > Thank you for your efforts. > > > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart > to give one a general > > overview of what the planets in various signs > mean. When there is no > > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure > you're well aware of. > > > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to > base rectifications off of, > > it > > becomes guesswork. > > > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. > facially speaking, but obviously > > we > > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, > when seeing the > placements > > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be > a suitable ascendant. > > > > But deeper examination is needed. > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Arun > > > === message truncated === Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Mail Beta. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 3, 2006 Dear Ms. Powers, You have such wonderful enthusiasm for all of this, which is so nice to see. I'm leaning towards Leo ascendant for the following reasons: (a) It is the only ascendant that gives us no bad placements of any of the 9 planets on 8/30/1930. (b) He looks like a Leo who would be having the Sun closely influencing the ascendant. He has a wide face with stronger than average facial bone structure. He has a broad, strong forehead. These are Sun-inspired physical traits. © His 1st, 2nd, 5th, 8th, and 11th houses are powerful with there being ample strong close influences on them. All of these houses can bless one with financial gains when strong. The incredible strength of the 2nd house stands out the most. (d) The Sun is strong, L2 is strong, and L9 is strong. The strong L2 and L9 act like a Sun. Both L2 and L9 are strongly influencing the 2nd house of status and wealth, along with there being the influence of the strong Sun on the ascendant itself! This is an incredibly powerful chart. (d) He chooses to live frugally, which is a trait inspired by the heavy Saturnian influence on L2 and on the 2nd house. The prime significator for assets here is Mercury. Mercury is a planet that lives humbly, along with Saturn. The weakness of and close affliction to Venus contribute as well, along with the weakness of the 12th lord, Moon. (e) The weakness of and close affliction to L3 Venus accounts for his fear of public speaking. Hope this helps. Best Wishes, Arun Sheri Powers <mermaidslace wrote: Dear List, Vyas got me interested in Warren Buffett, and I checked out the book " Buffet, The Making of an American Capitalist " by Roger Lowenstein, at the library. The book has a lot of good personal information, though no birth time. On Aug 13, 1931, Warren's father's bank where he worked closed, and he lost his job and all savings. Also, Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. (perhaps debillitated moon in 4th-Oprah Winfrey, according to internet sources, is Leo with moon in fourth and had problems with mother). On Aug 13, 1931, the most afflicted ascendants for father were Leo, Sagittarius, and Aquarius. On Warren's date of birth, the ascendants with the most strong benefics were -Leo-5, Libra-4, Sagittarius-5, Aquarius-4, Aries-4, and Gemini-5. (This is keeping the MEP away from nodes). Leo, however, had the most combinations for wealth (benefics in or aspecting 2, 5, 11, and 9. Warren and family suffered poverty in his early years due to the depression, and this provided strong motivation to Warren- by the age of 5 he was stating he would grow up and be very rich. With the Leo ascendant,(depending on degree) Warren was born in Ketu subperiod, followed by weak Venus subperiod. If he is Leo, since the chart is so strong, the early weak sub periods provided strong motivation rather than hampering him in life. I was randomly checking a 6:40 birthtime which gave around 22 degrees Leo, but will check out 's suggestion of around 13 degrees rising. I will finish reading the book and check out the events against the other likely ascendants-I was strongly favoring a Leo ascendant, and glad to hear that the Professor and Arun see the same thing. But I will check out the other ascendant to make sure I am objective. I also saw strong possibility with Sagittarius and Aquarius. I really enjoy the list discussion-Sincerely, Sheri Powers Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: Dear Vyas, The nature of the prime determinant of profession should also be looked at. In the case of Leo, Mercury is the trader of the zodiac. Coupled with strong 5th/11th houses, a career in speculative activities seems to be a stronger possibility. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Arun, As you've pointed out Saturnian influence can give this frugality. How about an Aq asc? Certainly it would show strong Sun/Leo traits with Su L7 Aq if the MEP is as suspected. It shows show fantastic affluence through investments as well. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:38 AM Re: Warren Buffett My dear Esteemed Professor and Vyas, Leo ascendant folk (myself included) have a unique look, especially when the Sun influences the ascendant or 2nd house (face) closely. One can expect a wider face with strong bone structure therein. The nose may be prominent and somewhat wide. Mr. Buffett also has a strong forehead, which is consistent with other Leo's. Hence my initial assessment was Leo. Being one, I know one when I see one Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello Vyas, Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. Best wishes, - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM Re: Warren Buffett > Dear Professor, > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the world > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > My dear Vyas, > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > Leo > Virgo > Libra > Pisces > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. > > What do you think? > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the > chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. > > If this helps the discussion... > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many > years > ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed > with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him > better, contact-wise. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > On Behalf > Of Arun Rao > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > Thank you for your efforts. > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general > overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, > it > becomes guesswork. > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously > we > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. > > But deeper examination is needed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK > " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: > Dear Vyas, > > Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous > message. > > Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in > a > successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no > trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list > members > have a better luck. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > HYPERLINK > " %40 " > [HYPERLINK > " %40 " ] On Behalf Of > Vyas Munidas > terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 > HYPERLINK " %40 " > Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > Dear Jorge, > > Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this > chart. > He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a > timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes > that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other > esteemed > members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. > > Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST > > 1944: (14 years old) > invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland > > 1945: (15 years old) > first job > > 1947: (17 years old) > freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. > > 1950: (20 years old) > Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at > Columbia. > > 1952: (22 years old) > Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female > > 1954: (24 years old) > New job with Graham > Second child, male > > 1956: (26 years old) > Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett > family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett > Associates, > Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a > total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of > the year, > > 1957: (27 years old) > Third child, Peter, > Purchased a five-bedroom house > > 1960: (30 years old) > Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who > will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, > 11 > doctors agreed to invest. > > 1961: (31 years old) > With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million > investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. > > 1965: (35 years old) > Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) > > 1968: (38 years old) > Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts > college in Iowa. > > 1969: (39 years old) > Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and > liquidated its assets to his partners. > > 1971: (41 years old) > At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna > Beach. > > 1974: (44 years old) > Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio > began > to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. > Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into > Warren > GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the > investigation. > > 1977: (47 years old) > Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. > Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing > paper. > Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This > caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. > > 1983: (53 years old) > Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the > first > time. > > 1988: (58 years old) > Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up > to > 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of > Berkshire's most lucrative investments. > > 1989: (59 years old) > Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth > rose > with it to $3.8 billion. > > 1997: (67 years old) > Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at > about $6 per ounce. > > 2002: (72 years old) > Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US > dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these > contracts was over $2 billion. > > 2003: (73 years old) > By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 > million dollars. > Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted > by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for > President in 2004.[14] > > 2004: (74 years old) > Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola > Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of > interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy > buyers > of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor > Pepsi? " > > 2005: (75 years old) > The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar > strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance > divisions. > > 2006: (76 years old) > > Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re > Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American > International Group. > Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has > ever made outside of the United States. > Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about > $37 > billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of > stock starting in July 2006. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK > " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> > <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> > Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the > > possibility > > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > [HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On > > Behalf > > Of Vyas Munidas > > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > > > > > Dearest Jorge (and list), > > > > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows > > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 > > > > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 Budapest, > > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 > > > > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please take > > a > > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: > 28.07.2006 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: > 31.07.2006 > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 3, 2006 Dear Arun, Thankyou for your reply. I appreciate your analysis of the planets, their placement and what this means and how it influences the chart. This knowledge comes from a lot of experience and study, and I truly benefit from reading your posts, as well as those from the other learned members and Professor Choudhry. I am enjoying reading the biography, gaining a sense of Mr. Buffett's personality, as well as more exact dates to check. I get a big thrill when events match perfectly with sub-periods and transits! Thankyou for the encouragement and information- I will share later what I learn. Sincerely, Sheri Powers Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: Dear Ms. Powers, You have such wonderful enthusiasm for all of this, which is so nice to see. I'm leaning towards Leo ascendant for the following reasons: (a) It is the only ascendant that gives us no bad placements of any of the 9 planets on 8/30/1930. (b) He looks like a Leo who would be having the Sun closely influencing the ascendant. He has a wide face with stronger than average facial bone structure. He has a broad, strong forehead. These are Sun-inspired physical traits. © His 1st, 2nd, 5th, 8th, and 11th houses are powerful with there being ample strong close influences on them. All of these houses can bless one with financial gains when strong. The incredible strength of the 2nd house stands out the most. (d) The Sun is strong, L2 is strong, and L9 is strong. The strong L2 and L9 act like a Sun. Both L2 and L9 are strongly influencing the 2nd house of status and wealth, along with there being the influence of the strong Sun on the ascendant itself! This is an incredibly powerful chart. (d) He chooses to live frugally, which is a trait inspired by the heavy Saturnian influence on L2 and on the 2nd house. The prime significator for assets here is Mercury. Mercury is a planet that lives humbly, along with Saturn. The weakness of and close affliction to Venus contribute as well, along with the weakness of the 12th lord, Moon. (e) The weakness of and close affliction to L3 Venus accounts for his fear of public speaking. Hope this helps. Best Wishes, Arun Sheri Powers <mermaidslace wrote: Dear List, Vyas got me interested in Warren Buffett, and I checked out the book " Buffet, The Making of an American Capitalist " by Roger Lowenstein, at the library. The book has a lot of good personal information, though no birth time. On Aug 13, 1931, Warren's father's bank where he worked closed, and he lost his job and all savings. Also, Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. (perhaps debillitated moon in 4th-Oprah Winfrey, according to internet sources, is Leo with moon in fourth and had problems with mother). On Aug 13, 1931, the most afflicted ascendants for father were Leo, Sagittarius, and Aquarius. On Warren's date of birth, the ascendants with the most strong benefics were -Leo-5, Libra-4, Sagittarius-5, Aquarius-4, Aries-4, and Gemini-5. (This is keeping the MEP away from nodes). Leo, however, had the most combinations for wealth (benefics in or aspecting 2, 5, 11, and 9. Warren and family suffered poverty in his early years due to the depression, and this provided strong motivation to Warren- by the age of 5 he was stating he would grow up and be very rich. With the Leo ascendant,(depending on degree) Warren was born in Ketu subperiod, followed by weak Venus subperiod. If he is Leo, since the chart is so strong, the early weak sub periods provided strong motivation rather than hampering him in life. I was randomly checking a 6:40 birthtime which gave around 22 degrees Leo, but will check out 's suggestion of around 13 degrees rising. I will finish reading the book and check out the events against the other likely ascendants-I was strongly favoring a Leo ascendant, and glad to hear that the Professor and Arun see the same thing. But I will check out the other ascendant to make sure I am objective. I also saw strong possibility with Sagittarius and Aquarius. I really enjoy the list discussion-Sincerely, Sheri Powers Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: Dear Vyas, The nature of the prime determinant of profession should also be looked at. In the case of Leo, Mercury is the trader of the zodiac. Coupled with strong 5th/11th houses, a career in speculative activities seems to be a stronger possibility. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Arun, As you've pointed out Saturnian influence can give this frugality. How about an Aq asc? Certainly it would show strong Sun/Leo traits with Su L7 Aq if the MEP is as suspected. It shows show fantastic affluence through investments as well. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:38 AM Re: Warren Buffett My dear Esteemed Professor and Vyas, Leo ascendant folk (myself included) have a unique look, especially when the Sun influences the ascendant or 2nd house (face) closely. One can expect a wider face with strong bone structure therein. The nose may be prominent and somewhat wide. Mr. Buffett also has a strong forehead, which is consistent with other Leo's. Hence my initial assessment was Leo. Being one, I know one when I see one Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello Vyas, Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. Best wishes, - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM Re: Warren Buffett > Dear Professor, > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the world > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > My dear Vyas, > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > Leo > Virgo > Libra > Pisces > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. > > What do you think? > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the > chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. > > If this helps the discussion... > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many > years > ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed > with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him > better, contact-wise. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > On Behalf > Of Arun Rao > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > Thank you for your efforts. > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general > overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, > it > becomes guesswork. > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously > we > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. > > But deeper examination is needed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK > " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: > Dear Vyas, > > Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous > message. > > Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in > a > successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no > trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list > members > have a better luck. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > HYPERLINK > " %40 " > [HYPERLINK > " %40 " ] On Behalf Of > Vyas Munidas > terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 > HYPERLINK " %40 " > Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > Dear Jorge, > > Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this > chart. > He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a > timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes > that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other > esteemed > members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. > > Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST > > 1944: (14 years old) > invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland > > 1945: (15 years old) > first job > > 1947: (17 years old) > freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. > > 1950: (20 years old) > Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at > Columbia. > > 1952: (22 years old) > Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female > > 1954: (24 years old) > New job with Graham > Second child, male > > 1956: (26 years old) > Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett > family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett > Associates, > Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a > total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of > the year, > > 1957: (27 years old) > Third child, Peter, > Purchased a five-bedroom house > > 1960: (30 years old) > Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who > will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, > 11 > doctors agreed to invest. > > 1961: (31 years old) > With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million > investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. > > 1965: (35 years old) > Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) > > 1968: (38 years old) > Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts > college in Iowa. > > 1969: (39 years old) > Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and > liquidated its assets to his partners. > > 1971: (41 years old) > At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna > Beach. > > 1974: (44 years old) > Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio > began > to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. > Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into > Warren > GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the > investigation. > > 1977: (47 years old) > Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. > Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing > paper. > Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This > caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. > > 1983: (53 years old) > Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the > first > time. > > 1988: (58 years old) > Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up > to > 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of > Berkshire's most lucrative investments. > > 1989: (59 years old) > Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth > rose > with it to $3.8 billion. > > 1997: (67 years old) > Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at > about $6 per ounce. > > 2002: (72 years old) > Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US > dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these > contracts was over $2 billion. > > 2003: (73 years old) > By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 > million dollars. > Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted > by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for > President in 2004.[14] > > 2004: (74 years old) > Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola > Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of > interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy > buyers > of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor > Pepsi? " > > 2005: (75 years old) > The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar > strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance > divisions. > > 2006: (76 years old) > > Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re > Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American > International Group. > Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has > ever made outside of the United States. > Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about > $37 > billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of > stock starting in July 2006. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK > " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> > <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> > Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the > > possibility > > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warre\ n_Buffet " HYPERLINK > > > " http://en.wikipedia-.org/wiki/-Warren_Buffet " http://en.wikipedia--.org/wiki/--W\ arren_Buffet > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > Jorge > > > > > > > > > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > [HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com] On > > Behalf > > Of Vyas Munidas > > segunda-feira, 31 de Julho de 2006 22:08 > > HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com > > To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > > > > > > Dearest Jorge (and list), > > > > Do you have a rectified chart of Warren Buffet? Internet search shows > > 30/08/1930 12pm Omaha NE. 06:00 CST, Li 25:52 > > > > Another incredibly wealthy trader is George Soros: 12/08/1930 Budapest, > > Hungary. -01:00 CET, Li 17:01 > > > > If you don't have such rectified charts in your DB, can you please take > > a > > look and give your opinion on the ascendants for each of these men? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: > 28.07.2006 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: > 31.07.2006 > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 3, 2006 Dear Arun, Thanks for the further understanding. Much appreciated. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 1:35 AM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Vyas, The nature of the prime determinant of profession should also be looked at. In the case of Leo, Mercury is the trader of the zodiac. Coupled with strong 5th/11th houses, a career in speculative activities seems to be a stronger possibility. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Arun, As you've pointed out Saturnian influence can give this frugality. How about an Aq asc? Certainly it would show strong Sun/Leo traits with Su L7 Aq if the MEP is as suspected. It shows show fantastic affluence through investments as well. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:38 AM Re: Warren Buffett My dear Esteemed Professor and Vyas, Leo ascendant folk (myself included) have a unique look, especially when the Sun influences the ascendant or 2nd house (face) closely. One can expect a wider face with strong bone structure therein. The nose may be prominent and somewhat wide. Mr. Buffett also has a strong forehead, which is consistent with other Leo's. Hence my initial assessment was Leo. Being one, I know one when I see one Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello Vyas, Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. Best wishes, - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM Re: Warren Buffett > Dear Professor, > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the world > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > My dear Vyas, > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > Leo > Virgo > Libra > Pisces > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. > > What do you think? > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the > chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. > > If this helps the discussion... > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many > years > ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed > with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him > better, contact-wise. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > On Behalf > Of Arun Rao > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > Thank you for your efforts. > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general > overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, > it > becomes guesswork. > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously > we > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. > > But deeper examination is needed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK > " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: > Dear Vyas, > > Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous > message. > > Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in > a > successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no > trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list > members > have a better luck. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > HYPERLINK > " %40 " > [HYPERLINK > " %40 " ] On Behalf Of > Vyas Munidas > terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 > HYPERLINK " %40 " > Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > Dear Jorge, > > Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this > chart. > He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a > timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes > that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other > esteemed > members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. > > Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST > > 1944: (14 years old) > invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland > > 1945: (15 years old) > first job > > 1947: (17 years old) > freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. > > 1950: (20 years old) > Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at > Columbia. > > 1952: (22 years old) > Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female > > 1954: (24 years old) > New job with Graham > Second child, male > > 1956: (26 years old) > Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett > family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett > Associates, > Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a > total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of > the year, > > 1957: (27 years old) > Third child, Peter, > Purchased a five-bedroom house > > 1960: (30 years old) > Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who > will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, > 11 > doctors agreed to invest. > > 1961: (31 years old) > With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million > investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. > > 1965: (35 years old) > Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) > > 1968: (38 years old) > Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts > college in Iowa. > > 1969: (39 years old) > Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and > liquidated its assets to his partners. > > 1971: (41 years old) > At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna > Beach. > > 1974: (44 years old) > Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio > began > to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. > Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into > Warren > GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the > investigation. > > 1977: (47 years old) > Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. > Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing > paper. > Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This > caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. > > 1983: (53 years old) > Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the > first > time. > > 1988: (58 years old) > Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up > to > 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of > Berkshire's most lucrative investments. > > 1989: (59 years old) > Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth > rose > with it to $3.8 billion. > > 1997: (67 years old) > Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at > about $6 per ounce. > > 2002: (72 years old) > Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US > dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these > contracts was over $2 billion. > > 2003: (73 years old) > By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 > million dollars. > Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted > by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for > President in 2004.[14] > > 2004: (74 years old) > Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola > Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of > interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy > buyers > of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor > Pepsi? " > > 2005: (75 years old) > The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar > strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance > divisions. > > 2006: (76 years old) > > Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re > Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American > International Group. > Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has > ever made outside of the United States. > Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about > $37 > billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of > stock starting in July 2006. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK > " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> > <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> > Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the > > possibility > > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > > > > > A good link about W. Buffet is HYPERLINK > > " HYPERLINK " HYPERLINK > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 3, 2006 Dear Professor, Arun and list, Buffett is an atheist from what I could find. What can give rise to this in a Leo asc chart? Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 3:12 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Ms. Powers, You have such wonderful enthusiasm for all of this, which is so nice to see. I'm leaning towards Leo ascendant for the following reasons: (a) It is the only ascendant that gives us no bad placements of any of the 9 planets on 8/30/1930. (b) He looks like a Leo who would be having the Sun closely influencing the ascendant. He has a wide face with stronger than average facial bone structure. He has a broad, strong forehead. These are Sun-inspired physical traits. © His 1st, 2nd, 5th, 8th, and 11th houses are powerful with there being ample strong close influences on them. All of these houses can bless one with financial gains when strong. The incredible strength of the 2nd house stands out the most. (d) The Sun is strong, L2 is strong, and L9 is strong. The strong L2 and L9 act like a Sun. Both L2 and L9 are strongly influencing the 2nd house of status and wealth, along with there being the influence of the strong Sun on the ascendant itself! This is an incredibly powerful chart. (d) He chooses to live frugally, which is a trait inspired by the heavy Saturnian influence on L2 and on the 2nd house. The prime significator for assets here is Mercury. Mercury is a planet that lives humbly, along with Saturn. The weakness of and close affliction to Venus contribute as well, along with the weakness of the 12th lord, Moon. (e) The weakness of and close affliction to L3 Venus accounts for his fear of public speaking. Hope this helps. Best Wishes, Arun Sheri Powers <mermaidslace wrote: Dear List, Vyas got me interested in Warren Buffett, and I checked out the book " Buffet, The Making of an American Capitalist " by Roger Lowenstein, at the library. The book has a lot of good personal information, though no birth time. On Aug 13, 1931, Warren's father's bank where he worked closed, and he lost his job and all savings. Also, Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. (perhaps debillitated moon in 4th-Oprah Winfrey, according to internet sources, is Leo with moon in fourth and had problems with mother). On Aug 13, 1931, the most afflicted ascendants for father were Leo, Sagittarius, and Aquarius. On Warren's date of birth, the ascendants with the most strong benefics were -Leo-5, Libra-4, Sagittarius-5, Aquarius-4, Aries-4, and Gemini-5. (This is keeping the MEP away from nodes). Leo, however, had the most combinations for wealth (benefics in or aspecting 2, 5, 11, and 9. Warren and family suffered poverty in his early years due to the depression, and this provided strong motivation to Warren- by the age of 5 he was stating he would grow up and be very rich. With the Leo ascendant,(depending on degree) Warren was born in Ketu subperiod, followed by weak Venus subperiod. If he is Leo, since the chart is so strong, the early weak sub periods provided strong motivation rather than hampering him in life. I was randomly checking a 6:40 birthtime which gave around 22 degrees Leo, but will check out 's suggestion of around 13 degrees rising. I will finish reading the book and check out the events against the other likely ascendants-I was strongly favoring a Leo ascendant, and glad to hear that the Professor and Arun see the same thing. But I will check out the other ascendant to make sure I am objective. I also saw strong possibility with Sagittarius and Aquarius. I really enjoy the list discussion-Sincerely, Sheri Powers Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: Dear Vyas, The nature of the prime determinant of profession should also be looked at. In the case of Leo, Mercury is the trader of the zodiac. Coupled with strong 5th/11th houses, a career in speculative activities seems to be a stronger possibility. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Arun, As you've pointed out Saturnian influence can give this frugality. How about an Aq asc? Certainly it would show strong Sun/Leo traits with Su L7 Aq if the MEP is as suspected. It shows show fantastic affluence through investments as well. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:38 AM Re: Warren Buffett My dear Esteemed Professor and Vyas, Leo ascendant folk (myself included) have a unique look, especially when the Sun influences the ascendant or 2nd house (face) closely. One can expect a wider face with strong bone structure therein. The nose may be prominent and somewhat wide. Mr. Buffett also has a strong forehead, which is consistent with other Leo's. Hence my initial assessment was Leo. Being one, I know one when I see one Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello Vyas, Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. Best wishes, - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM Re: Warren Buffett > Dear Professor, > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the world > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > My dear Vyas, > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > Leo > Virgo > Libra > Pisces > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. > > What do you think? > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the > chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. > > If this helps the discussion... > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many > years > ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed > with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him > better, contact-wise. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > On Behalf > Of Arun Rao > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > Thank you for your efforts. > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general > overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, > it > becomes guesswork. > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously > we > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. > > But deeper examination is needed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK > " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: > Dear Vyas, > > Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous > message. > > Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in > a > successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no > trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list > members > have a better luck. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > HYPERLINK > " %40 " > [HYPERLINK > " %40 " ] On Behalf Of > Vyas Munidas > terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 > HYPERLINK " %40 " > Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > Dear Jorge, > > Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this > chart. > He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a > timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes > that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other > esteemed > members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. > > Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST > > 1944: (14 years old) > invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland > > 1945: (15 years old) > first job > > 1947: (17 years old) > freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. > > 1950: (20 years old) > Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at > Columbia. > > 1952: (22 years old) > Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female > > 1954: (24 years old) > New job with Graham > Second child, male > > 1956: (26 years old) > Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett > family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett > Associates, > Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a > total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of > the year, > > 1957: (27 years old) > Third child, Peter, > Purchased a five-bedroom house > > 1960: (30 years old) > Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who > will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, > 11 > doctors agreed to invest. > > 1961: (31 years old) > With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million > investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. > > 1965: (35 years old) > Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) > > 1968: (38 years old) > Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts > college in Iowa. > > 1969: (39 years old) > Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and > liquidated its assets to his partners. > > 1971: (41 years old) > At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna > Beach. > > 1974: (44 years old) > Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio > began > to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. > Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into > Warren > GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the > investigation. > > 1977: (47 years old) > Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. > Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing > paper. > Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This > caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. > > 1983: (53 years old) > Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the > first > time. > > 1988: (58 years old) > Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up > to > 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of > Berkshire's most lucrative investments. > > 1989: (59 years old) > Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth > rose > with it to $3.8 billion. > > 1997: (67 years old) > Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at > about $6 per ounce. > > 2002: (72 years old) > Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US > dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these > contracts was over $2 billion. > > 2003: (73 years old) > By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 > million dollars. > Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted > by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for > President in 2004.[14] > > 2004: (74 years old) > Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola > Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of > interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy > buyers > of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor > Pepsi? " > > 2005: (75 years old) > The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar > strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance > divisions. > > 2006: (76 years old) > > Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re > Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American > International Group. > Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has > ever made outside of the United States. > Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about > $37 > billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of > stock starting in July 2006. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK > " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> > <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> > Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the > > possibility > > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > > > > > A good link about W. 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Guest guest Report post Posted August 3, 2006 Dear Vyas, It's hard for me to say. What people say in public and what they could be doing in private can be drastically different. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Professor, Arun and list, Buffett is an atheist from what I could find. What can give rise to this in a Leo asc chart? Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 3:12 PM Re: Warren Buffett Dear Ms. Powers, You have such wonderful enthusiasm for all of this, which is so nice to see. I'm leaning towards Leo ascendant for the following reasons: (a) It is the only ascendant that gives us no bad placements of any of the 9 planets on 8/30/1930. (b) He looks like a Leo who would be having the Sun closely influencing the ascendant. He has a wide face with stronger than average facial bone structure. He has a broad, strong forehead. These are Sun-inspired physical traits. © His 1st, 2nd, 5th, 8th, and 11th houses are powerful with there being ample strong close influences on them. All of these houses can bless one with financial gains when strong. The incredible strength of the 2nd house stands out the most. (d) The Sun is strong, L2 is strong, and L9 is strong. The strong L2 and L9 act like a Sun. Both L2 and L9 are strongly influencing the 2nd house of status and wealth, along with there being the influence of the strong Sun on the ascendant itself! This is an incredibly powerful chart. (d) He chooses to live frugally, which is a trait inspired by the heavy Saturnian influence on L2 and on the 2nd house. The prime significator for assets here is Mercury. Mercury is a planet that lives humbly, along with Saturn. The weakness of and close affliction to Venus contribute as well, along with the weakness of the 12th lord, Moon. (e) The weakness of and close affliction to L3 Venus accounts for his fear of public speaking. Hope this helps. Best Wishes, Arun Sheri Powers <mermaidslace wrote: Dear List, Vyas got me interested in Warren Buffett, and I checked out the book " Buffet, The Making of an American Capitalist " by Roger Lowenstein, at the library. The book has a lot of good personal information, though no birth time. On Aug 13, 1931, Warren's father's bank where he worked closed, and he lost his job and all savings. Also, Warren's mother had mental and emotional problems and raged at the children on a regular basis. (perhaps debillitated moon in 4th-Oprah Winfrey, according to internet sources, is Leo with moon in fourth and had problems with mother). On Aug 13, 1931, the most afflicted ascendants for father were Leo, Sagittarius, and Aquarius. On Warren's date of birth, the ascendants with the most strong benefics were -Leo-5, Libra-4, Sagittarius-5, Aquarius-4, Aries-4, and Gemini-5. (This is keeping the MEP away from nodes). Leo, however, had the most combinations for wealth (benefics in or aspecting 2, 5, 11, and 9. Warren and family suffered poverty in his early years due to the depression, and this provided strong motivation to Warren- by the age of 5 he was stating he would grow up and be very rich. With the Leo ascendant,(depending on degree) Warren was born in Ketu subperiod, followed by weak Venus subperiod. If he is Leo, since the chart is so strong, the early weak sub periods provided strong motivation rather than hampering him in life. I was randomly checking a 6:40 birthtime which gave around 22 degrees Leo, but will check out 's suggestion of around 13 degrees rising. I will finish reading the book and check out the events against the other likely ascendants-I was strongly favoring a Leo ascendant, and glad to hear that the Professor and Arun see the same thing. But I will check out the other ascendant to make sure I am objective. I also saw strong possibility with Sagittarius and Aquarius. I really enjoy the list discussion-Sincerely, Sheri Powers Arun Rao <arunrao9 wrote: Dear Vyas, The nature of the prime determinant of profession should also be looked at. In the case of Leo, Mercury is the trader of the zodiac. Coupled with strong 5th/11th houses, a career in speculative activities seems to be a stronger possibility. Best Wishes, Arun Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Arun, As you've pointed out Saturnian influence can give this frugality. How about an Aq asc? Certainly it would show strong Sun/Leo traits with Su L7 Aq if the MEP is as suspected. It shows show fantastic affluence through investments as well. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:38 AM Re: Warren Buffett My dear Esteemed Professor and Vyas, Leo ascendant folk (myself included) have a unique look, especially when the Sun influences the ascendant or 2nd house (face) closely. One can expect a wider face with strong bone structure therein. The nose may be prominent and somewhat wide. Mr. Buffett also has a strong forehead, which is consistent with other Leo's. Hence my initial assessment was Leo. Being one, I know one when I see one Best Wishes, Arun siha wrote: Hello Vyas, Leo with 12 to 13 degree risings gives a good possibility. Best wishes, - " Vyas Munidas " <muni> Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:32 AM Re: Warren Buffett > Dear Professor, > > What Asc in your opinion would suit the second wealthiest man in the world > who lives like a miser comparatively? > > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:44 PM > Re: Warren Buffett > > > My dear Vyas, > > Yes it would be nice to have his chart. > > In my view, the potential ascendants are: > > Leo > Virgo > Libra > Pisces > > Those would be the 4 ascendants that I think are within reason. > > What do you think? > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > Dear Jorge and Arun, > > You are right, it does need more study. It would be nice to understand the > chart of the man publicly noted as the second wealthiest man in the world. > > If this helps the discussion... > > A key thing about Buffett's is that he lives very frugally despite great > wealth - 100k/yr and in the same 5 bedroom stucko house he bought many > years > ago. He supports abortion and population control. He didn't always succeed > with his educational plans, but by luck the second choices positioned him > better, contact-wise. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <jorge.angelino > > Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:47 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Arun, > > I agree with you. Deeper examination is needed. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > On Behalf > Of Arun Rao > quarta-feira, 2 de Agosto de 2006 01:34 > > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > My dear Mr. Angelino, > > Thank you for your efforts. > > Western astrologers use a " natural noon " chart to give one a general > overview of what the planets in various signs mean. When there is no > verified time, they default to noon, as I'm sure you're well aware of. > > Like you say, when there is no worthy time to base rectifications off of, > it > becomes guesswork. > > Mr. Buffett seems to resemble a Leo Asc. facially speaking, but obviously > we > cannot go based on that alone. On first glance, when seeing the placements > of planets on August 30, 1930, Leo appears to be a suitable ascendant. > > But deeper examination is needed. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > Jorge Angelino <HYPERLINK > " jorge.angelino%40netvisao.pt " jorge.angelino@-netvisao.-pt> wrote: > Dear Vyas, > > Thanks for the list of events. They also come in the link of my previous > message. > > Generally, a deep research needs always to be done before one can dive in > a > successful rectification process. I have looked over the net but no > trustable link came regarding his TOB. May be other interested list > members > have a better luck. > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > HYPERLINK > " %40 " > [HYPERLINK > " %40 " ] On Behalf Of > Vyas Munidas > terça-feira, 1 de Agosto de 2006 20:08 > HYPERLINK " %40 " > Re: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > Dear Jorge, > > Thanks for your response. I've been chatting with Arun Rao about this > chart. > He thinks that Buffet has a face that looks like a Leo's. I've included a > timeline significant and semi-significant events of Buffet's life in hopes > that we can better gauge the ascendant. Please, when you and other > esteemed > members have a chance, give your opinions. Thanks. > > Born 30/08/1930 Omaha NE. 06:00 CST > > 1944: (14 years old) > invested $1,200 of his savings into 40 acres of farmland > > 1945: (15 years old) > first job > > 1947: (17 years old) > freshman at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. > > 1950: (20 years old) > Turned down from Harvard Business School. He eventually enrolled at > Columbia. > > 1952: (22 years old) > Buffett married Susan Thompson in April of 1952. First child, female > > 1954: (24 years old) > New job with Graham > Second child, male > > 1956: (26 years old) > Buffett's personal savings grew from $9,800 to over $140,000. The Buffett > family returned home to Omaha. On May 1, Buffett created Buffett > Associates, > Ltd., an investment partnership. Seven family members and friends put in a > total of $105,000. Buffett himself invested only $100. Over the course of > the year, > > 1957: (27 years old) > Third child, Peter, > Purchased a five-bedroom house > > 1960: (30 years old) > Buffett asked one of his partners, a doctor, to find 10 other doctors who > will be willing to invest $10,000 each into his partnership. Eventually, > 11 > doctors agreed to invest. > > 1961: (31 years old) > With the partnerships worth millions, Buffett made his first $1 million > investment in a windmill-manufactur--ing company. > > 1965: (35 years old) > Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, died. 1966: (36 years old) > > 1968: (38 years old) > Buffett became a trustee of Grinnell College, a prestigious liberal arts > college in Iowa. > > 1969: (39 years old) > Following his most successful year, Buffett closed the partnership and > liquidated its assets to his partners. > > 1971: (41 years old) > At his wife's request, Buffett purchased a $150,000 summer home at Laguna > Beach. > > 1974: (44 years old) > Due to falling stock prices, the value of Berkshire's stock portfolio > began > to fall. Buffet's personal wealth was cut by more than 50%. The U.S. > Securities and Exchange Commission opened a formal investigation into > Warren > GH Buffett and one of Berkshire's mergers. Nothing ever came of the > investigation. > > 1977: (47 years old) > Berkshire indirectly purchased the Buffalo Evening News for $32.5 million. > Buffet would later be brought up on antitrust charges by a competing > paper. > Wife, Susan leaves Buffet, although not officially divorcing him. This > caused considerable emotional distress for Buffett. > > 1983: (53 years old) > Net worth reached $620 million, placing him on the Forbes 400 for the > first > time. > > 1988: (58 years old) > Buffett began buying stock in Coca-Cola Company, eventually purchasing up > to > 7 percent of the company for $1.02 billion. It would turn out to be one of > Berkshire's most lucrative investments. > > 1989: (59 years old) > Berkshire rose from $4,800 per share to over $8,000. Buffet's net worth > rose > with it to $3.8 billion. > > 1997: (67 years old) > Buffett purchased nearly 130 million ounces of silver as an investment at > about $6 per ounce. > > 2002: (72 years old) > Buffett entered in $11 billion worth of forward contracts to deliver US > dollars against other currencies. By April 2006, his total gain on these > contracts was over $2 billion. > > 2003: (73 years old) > By December 31 his gain on the contracts from last year was over $600 > million dollars. > Buffett also placed second to Ralph Nader in an online web poll, conducted > by iswitched.org, of possible candidates for the Green Party nominee for > President in 2004.[14] > > 2004: (74 years old) > Buffett is criticized for the position he held on the board of Coca-Cola > Company, since some institutional investors saw this as a conflict of > interest with Berkshire's ownership of Dairy Queen and McLane, heavy > buyers > of many Coca-Cola products. Buffett's reply: " Do they want us to favor > Pepsi? " > > 2005: (75 years old) > The gains from the 2002 contract were reduced in 2005 when the US dollar > strengthened. Hurricane Katrina caused losses to Berkshire's reinsurance > divisions. > > 2006: (76 years old) > > Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway faced difficulties over their General Re > Insurance unit, which was accused of questionable dealings with American > International Group. > Buffett makes many acquisitions during the year, largest purchase he has > ever made outside of the United States. > Buffett announced in June that he will give away more than 80% or about > $37 > billion of his $44 billion fortune to five foundations in annual gifts of > stock starting in July 2006. > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " Jorge Angelino " <HYPERLINK > " jorge.-angelino%-40netvisao.-pt " jorge.-angelino@--netvisao.--pt> > <HYPERLINK " %-40.-com " HYPERLINK > " %40-s.com " (AT) --s (DOT) com> > Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:40 AM > RE: To Jorge Angelino and List, re Warren Buffet > > > My dear Vyas, > > > > > > > > I have not such rectified charts in my data. > > > > > > > > Generally speaking, the Libra ascendant is a good one to become a > > millionaire, as the Sun rules H11, which gives the native the > > possibility > > of having friendship with the government and important people. > > > > > > > > A good link about W. 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